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Atari Announces an Official Portable 2600 System

Bill Kendrick writes: "Infogrames (the folks who now own Atari) have just struck a deal with another company to produce a 10-in-1 video game system based on the Atari 2600. It'll be joystick-shaped, plug into a TV set, cost only $20, and include games like Combat, Asteroids, Missile Command, and my favorite, Adventure! It won't replace my Atari 2600 Jr and 60 cartridges, but it's a step in the right direction!"

278 comments

  1. Hmm cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For that price it might be a fun buy.

    1. Re:Hmm cool by HerringFlavoredFowl · · Score: 2

      I'll pony up the $20 ...

      ... you ment the game pad, though if they have a hit this X-mas with it, the stocks currently at a good price to.

      The debate, game for $20, share of stock for $17 ...

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  2. Hell Yah by red5 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now if only I could get games for my lynx :)

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    1. Re:Hell Yah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      try http://www.atarihq.de
      they delivered to me 8 times reliably

    2. Re:Hell Yah by red5 · · Score: 1

      Thank You.

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    3. Re:Hell Yah by jabapi · · Score: 1

      Browsing the /. with Lynx is almost the same...

    4. Re:Hell Yah by Tet · · Score: 4, Informative
      Now if only I could get games for my lynx :)

      If you live in the UK, head on down to your local Game store. Mine's still selling Lynx and Jaguar games (and indeed, Jaguar consoles!).

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    5. Re:Hell Yah by MrFredBloggs · · Score: 1

      plus eBay is full of the games/carts. Many people have caught on and are buying stuff from Game and selling on eBay for 3times+ the price!

    6. Re:Hell Yah by Bill+Kendrick · · Score: 3, Informative

      Songbird Productions ( http://songbird.atari.net/ ) produces NEW Atari Lynx games. :)

  3. I really cannot see it being "take anywhere". by Disevidence · · Score: 4, Funny

    I mean, imagine having a joystick-like thing in your pocket, walking to a friends house down the street?

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    1. Re:I really cannot see it being "take anywhere". by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You could always stick it up your anus... Although as a slashdot reader, you probably need your anus to be free of obstruction at all times.

    2. Re:I really cannot see it being "take anywhere". by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As opposed to you who needs it stuffed every waking second of the day? I am glad I am a Shlashdot reader...the alternative sounds painful and messy...

  4. I remember those... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Damn, Adventure was one of my biggest time killers in childhood.

    /me go looking for MAME and Adventure...

    -Cyc

  5. Original? by supercytro · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's amazing how Atari are constantly heard to resurrect itself only to push out the same games again and again, only to surprise itself when it doesn't pay off profitably... even in this instance, cheap many-in-one tv classic games systems have been sold so it's not even first with this strategy...

    1. Re:Original? by red5 · · Score: 1, Troll

      Well actualy Atari is now owned by a larger game company (Midway I think).
      So the company putting this out is in no way trying to support it's self on just this product.
      They have even released a few new arcade titles under the Atari brand to try and resurrect it.

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    2. Re:Original? by Disevidence · · Score: 1

      No, its owned by Infogrames, as it says in the main posting.

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    3. Re:Original? by Mimsy · · Score: 5, Informative

      Here is what happened with Atari.

      It got split into 2 seperate entities.

      Atari. (Home Entertainment)
      Atari Games (Arcade Entertainment)

      Warner Communications sold Atari to JTS i think, which sold it to Hasbro Interactive which Hasbro sold off to Infogrames of France.

      Warner Spun off Atari games as a subsiderary of them. Warner sold the Division to Midway.

      So that's why there is a little confusinon here.

      Hope this clears this up.

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    4. Re:Original? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Most of us who can remember playing Atari are not in the age group I believe they are targetting. They are targetting a generation who has never had experience with this gaming system. In addition, those who are not rich kids but can afford a 20 dollar system and they would be happy for a tried and tested platform.

    5. Re:Original? by Surak · · Score: 2

      Clear as mud. ;)

      So which Atari is this and who owns them?

    6. Re:Original? by MonkeyBoy · · Score: 3, Informative

      Atari. ;)

      The home entertainment division, which is the only Atari left. It was sold to Infogrames a while back, and since Infogrames is in the story, that's the division involved.

      Midway's arcade division shut down months ago (a few months after the Williams pinball division got axed), so for all intents and purposes Atari Games (the arcade division) is dead. Midway, the home entertainment division, is still alive and kicking.

      I'm not sure how the intellectual property is all handled, since Infogrames has been putting out PC ports of old arcade games under the Atari brand. Seems like Midway might be able to do the same with old Atari games.

      But, then again, Midway needs profitability at this point... putting out old titles seems like wonderful ideas, I just so rarely see it actually result in profits.

      Though, personally, I wish I had picked up more Infocom Treasures collections... I only got the first one released for the Mac, and there were one or two after that. Then there were a few that never made it far enough to get ported... (sigh)

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    7. Re:Original? by Neon+Spiral+Injector · · Score: 1

      Warner Communications sold Atari to JTS i think, which sold it to Hasbro Interactive which Hasbro sold off to Infogrames of France.

      JTS was the company that made the CD-ROM drive for the Atari Jaguar.

      The also made a 1.7GB hard disk that had a 95% failure rate.

    8. Re:Original? by EastCoastSurfer · · Score: 2

      So which Atari is this and who owns them?


      I think infogrames owns Atari home entertainment now. I just got Transworld Surf for the ps2 which is published by infogrames, but throws up an Atari splash screen at the start.

    9. Re:Original? by ShavenYak · · Score: 2, Funny

      But, then again, Midway needs profitability at this point... putting out old titles seems like wonderful ideas, I just so rarely see it actually result in profits.

      But it's so simple:

      Phase 1: Release old video game
      Phase 2: ?
      Phase 3: Profit!

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    10. Re:Original? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Well, you were partially right.

      Warner dumped Atari after the videogame crash of 1984, after which time the Tramiels of Commodore fame came into power. At this time Atari was completely autonomous and had no parent company. After the mismanagement of Atari at the hands of the notorious Tramiel family with botched XEGS, Lynx, and Jaguar releases and burning bridges with just about every third-party that dealt with them, they were forced to perform a reverse merger with JTS corporation. They got a whole $5,000,000 from Hasbro when JTS could no longer stay in business themselves. Pretty sad when you think about it.

      It's a pretty well-documented saga, Atari's last days, and I really recommend reading about it.

    11. Re:Original? by Spyffe · · Score: 1

      This is really not a troll; witness that I didn't post anonymously.

      A modern kid wouldn't be seen dead with some joystick playing old Atari games. $79 dollars extra gets you a modern Game Boy Advance several orders of magnitude more powerful than this. "Tried and tested" - kids aren't CEOs!

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    12. Re:Original? by Y-Crate · · Score: 2
      It's amazing how Atari are constantly heard to resurrect itself only to push out the same games again and again, only to surprise itself when it doesn't pay off profitably
      Hey, it always worked for Nintendo! ;)
    13. Re:Original? by sketerpot · · Score: 1
      Nintendo is following the market into 3D games, but I really think that they should have kept making 2D Mario-like games. They are simple to play, and they are fun.

      I miss Super Nintendo. Good thing I have an emulator.

    14. Re:Original? by ncc74656 · · Score: 2
      A modern kid wouldn't be seen dead with some joystick playing old Atari games. $79 dollars extra gets you a modern Game Boy Advance several orders of magnitude more powerful than this.

      ...but do they have Pitfall! for GBA? Didn't think so. (Then again, this gadget doesn't have it either...think I'll hang onto the Sears Tele-Games (rebadged six-switch 2600) I snagged off of eBay last year.)

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    15. Re:Original? by Stween · · Score: 1

      try The Atari Historical Society for information on atari.

      The guy that runs it runs it well, and there's often new stuff uncovered (the kind of stuff people find in attics then realise its worth something) that can be quite interesting.

      Well worth a read if you like that sort of thing.

    16. Re:Original? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    17. Re:Original? by darc · · Score: 1

      Actually, that is arguable. http://www.otakunozoku.com/gbavcs/ is a 2600 emulator for the GBA in progress, and a number of others, including a working NES and Spectrum emulator are at www.gbaemu.com. So, yes, you CAN have pitfall, soon.

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  6. LOL by red5 · · Score: 1, Funny

    Is that an ATARI in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?

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    1. Re:LOL by Jonny+Ringo · · Score: 1


      NO, that really is my Joy stick!

  7. In related news.... by neier · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sony reacted to the new product as expected. Effective Friday, the price on all PS2's will be dropped to $19.95....

    1. Re:In related news.... by 56ker · · Score: 2

      In a shock announcement in reply to Sony's announcement Microsoft said they would be giving away a free X-Box with each copy of Windows.

    2. Re:In related news.... by sniepre · · Score: 2

      Don't you mean,
      "In a shock announcement in reply to Sony's announcement Microsoft said they would be giving away a free X-Box with each copy of Windows XP Gaming Edition, the bundle value priced at $399.95."

      -sni

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  8. Atari makes nice arcade machines by ObviousGuy · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I really liked Stun Runner. The starter's voice was sexy.

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    1. Re:Atari makes nice arcade machines by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      not to mention the stun runners cabinet, way toooo coooool. and the hardware it's built on too..(hard drivin was cool too)

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    2. Re:Atari makes nice arcade machines by bludstone · · Score: 1

      hehe.. good luck!

      unfortunatly the only emulators ive found that "work" with stunrunner are very glitchy. Definatly unplayable.

      Ive always wanted a Stun runner cabinet.. want it 2nd only to street fighter 2 turbo... Maybe when i move into a house :)

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    3. Re:Atari makes nice arcade machines by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe when i move into a house

      Yeah, your mom will be happy then too.

    4. Re:Atari makes nice arcade machines by Junks+Jerzey · · Score: 2

      I really liked Stun Runner. The starter's voice was sexy.

      Atari Games was a different company than Atari Corp. They had no relation at all.

    5. Re:Atari makes nice arcade machines by Bill+Kendrick · · Score: 2

      Atari Games was a different company than Atari Corp. They had no relation at all.

      Well, not quite "not at all." I mean, STUN Runner was licensed by Atari Games and released for Atari Corp's "Atari Lynx" handheld, for example.

  9. Wonderful Memories by CmdrTaco+(editor) · · Score: 0, Troll
    Ah, the wonderful memories of a childhood past. I spent many of my young years playing the Atari 2600 my brother bought. Probably the game I played the most was "Montezuma's Revenge" easily one of the most addictive games I can remember playing. I was only five or six at the time, so it is entirely possible that my memories are a bit hazy.

    But, several years ago I found an Atari emulator and the roms to go with it. I was all set and ready to play Mousetrap, Montezuma's Revenge, River Raid, Pitfall, and all those other great games. It only took me a few minutes to realize that these games were nowhere near as fun as I had remembered them to be. Sure, in the 1980's they pushed the technological envelope to the limit, but their time has passed. Gameplay is not the sole factor in determining the value of a game, presentation is just as or even more important.

    For me, the old Atari games will remain as the peak of video game entertainment in my mind, but to be perfectly honest, playing them only makes me realize how far technology has progressed.

    1. Re:Wonderful Memories by randombozo · · Score: 0, Troll

      Just wait another 10 years, Taco. The damage you did to your digestive tract while sitting in front of the Atari for hours at a time will give you a completely different "Montezuma's Revenge" memory.

    2. Re:Wonderful Memories by qurob · · Score: 1

      Gameplay is not the sole factor in determining the value of a game, presentation is just as or even more important.

      There are PLENTY of BAD Atari games. PLENTY. Any goon could write games for them.

      I'd rather play Galaga, Dig Dug, and Donkey Kong over 90% of the shit thats on the market now. I like a few new games, but most of them are as repetitive and uninnovative as the crash of the 80's.

  10. Atari Joysticks by EkiM+in+De · · Score: 1

    I hope that they also resurrect and include with this system the almost indistructable Joysticks that came with the 2600. I shed a tear when mine finally gave up the ghost and I realised I would have to start buying feebly built joysticks.

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    1. Re:Atari Joysticks by KILNA · · Score: 2

      Ergo be damned, I miss the Atari and (blast from the past) Wico joysticks of old. They withstood my lower-middle-class whiteboy-in-an-ethnic-neighborhood angst, plowing photon torpedos against the Krylons in Star Raiders.

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    2. Re:Atari Joysticks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I still use my original Sears Telegames (rebranded 2600) joysticks with mia Amiga. 25 years and still not a glitch.

    3. Re:Atari Joysticks by ocbwilg · · Score: 2

      Ergo be damned, I miss the Atari and (blast from the past) Wico joysticks of old. They withstood my lower-middle-class whiteboy-in-an-ethnic-neighborhood angst, plowing photon torpedos against the Krylons in Star Raiders.

      Krylons? The evil overlords of paint?

      At any rate, while the Atari 2600 joysticks were nearly indestructible, they weren't my favorite. The best joystick ever invented (and I've yet to find it's equal anywhere in the land of PC or console) was the Epyx 500XJ. Ergonomic, gave solid feedback with it's switches and was durable too.

    4. Re:Atari Joysticks by jkujawa · · Score: 2

      The 500XJ was the only piece of hardware I've ever owned with a five-year warranty. Telling. I wish everything were built that well.

    5. Re:Atari Joysticks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      one word:
      Amiga.

      Best joysticks in the world. If you never had one, you'll never know..

    6. Re:Atari Joysticks by doofusclam · · Score: 1

      Wasn't it the zylons?

    7. Re:Atari Joysticks by KILNA · · Score: 2

      I got on a nostalgia kick after reading this story and found a great site for Star Raiders. You, sir, are correct. I bow to your superior recollection.

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    8. Re:Atari Joysticks by phillymjs · · Score: 2

      The 500XJ was my favorite joystick of the era, but the stick seemed to have an awful tendency to break just above where the metal inside ended. My friends and I went through several of them when we discovered Activision Decathlon on the C64, so the frantic back-and-forth motion to run in that game may have played a part in the plastic's fatigue and eventual failure.

      I have a pair of NES 500XJ's as well, but for the real nostalgia-inducing times, you really have to use the original, boxy NES joypads (ergonomics? what's that?).

      God, I miss Epyx. So many afternoons spent after school playing their games.... [sigh]

      ~Philly

  11. Innovative.. by NicolaiBSD · · Score: 1

    If only they could create a machine that I could plug in my TV that would allow me to play a tennisgame involving a dot and two lines together with a friend, perhaps with two rotary controllers; now that would be innovation!

    1. Re:Innovative.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A kit is made by Velleman. In the UK it's sold by Maplin for £7.99.

    2. Re:Innovative.. by troc · · Score: 2

      I still have one ;)

      I works some of the time but is a little bit flakey. It has tennis, squash, hockey and breakout.

      For a really authentic time I can even tape some coloured cellophane to the screen to get coloured bricks in breakout ;)

      heh

      John

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  12. Lost youth.... by Soulslayer · · Score: 1

    Somewhere lost in boxes in my parents' basement for the last 10 years (since the transformer broke) is my 2600 and a paper shopping pag full of games that I had purchased over the years. Since my folks just moved recently maybe they will find it once more.

    I miss my Atari. :(

    I also miss the look on the faces of sales people when as a kid in the 80's I'd buy a game for my 2600 using an assortment of nickels, pennies, and dimes.

    The allowance of months for a Combat cartridge!

    :)

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    1. Re:Lost youth.... by echucker · · Score: 1

      I also miss the look on the faces of sales people when as a kid in the 80's I'd buy a game for my 2600 using an assortment of nickels, pennies, and dimes. The allowance of months for a Combat cartridge!

      I too spent pocket change on cartridges, but not until my high school days. Overstock and reject games could be found at the Dollar Store for 99 cents, $1.04 after tax. I easily doubled the size of my collection for less than it would take to buy one of today's games off of the bargain table.

    2. Re:Lost youth.... by birder · · Score: 2

      Must of been a hella big pile. Those cartridges cost upwards of $100 at least when they came out. I remember years later in a department store seeing the same game for $1.99.

    3. Re:Lost youth.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You realize Combat came with your atari for free, don't you? Why did you have to buy it?

    4. Re:Lost youth.... by Soulslayer · · Score: 1

      About the time I was purchasing them I remember them being around $40. Which was still pretty big bank for a little kid. And yes a huge pile of change.

      A quick check of Google shows that the 2600 systems ran $200-$300 new and titles were $30-$50.

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    5. Re:Lost youth.... by JatTDB · · Score: 1

      As to the broken transformer, your average universal adapter will give the proper voltage (9V DC), as well as the proper connector.

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    6. Re:Lost youth.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you got the Sears branded 2600, it came with Air-Sea Combat. For some reason Atari made lots of boxed Combats.

    7. Re:Lost youth.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Didn't the 2600 come with Combat in the box?

    8. Re:Lost youth.... by Soulslayer · · Score: 1

      Yep. This is something I became aware of many years ago... ...after the 2600 had disappeared into the void of basement storage.

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    9. Re:Lost youth.... by birder · · Score: 2

      I specifically remember asteroids cost over $100 when it was released. Only one friend, who's father was a doctor, could afford it. There were others.

      This was $100 Canadian, in the late 70s.

    10. Re:Lost youth.... by Soulslayer · · Score: 1

      Ah. I don't know what the exchange rate was back then or how bad the price difference was between countries (PC games in the UK used to be around 70 pounds when it was $1.75 USD to the pound and in the US the games were $49), but games went for about $40-$50 USD in the states.

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  13. Why? by JimPooley · · Score: 1, Funny

    I can just see hordes of children being really unhappy when their grannies buy them one of these instead of the PS/2CubeBox game they wanted...

    I thought Infogrames were going to be producing new games as Atari, not just raiding the back catalogue to put out shite games nobody wants - just like other recent incarnations.

    It's well past the time Atari was allowed to die, I think.

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    1. Re:Why? by JimPooley · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Oh. Right. I don't worship at the altar of hideously outdated gaming systems which nobody in their right mind would buy at any price, and so I'm a troll?

      The Slashdot Hive Mind strikes again!

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    2. Re:Why? by moof1138 · · Score: 1

      A few weeks ago I bought a Tele-Games (Sear's rebrand of the 2600) at a garage sale for $2, and have been having a lot of fun playing the Atari games. Sure the graphics are not great, but the game play is really good (esp. 2 player Combat), and the nostalgia factor is fun. My four year old has a lot easier time with the simple control, so it works great for the fam. Just because you think that the games are "shite" does not mean nobody wants to play them.

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    3. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just because you think that the games are "shite" does not mean nobody wants to play them.

      I think the argument was more to the effect that Infogrames will sell about 10 of these.

    4. Re:Why? by Jonny+Ringo · · Score: 1

      I can just see hordes of children being really unhappy when their grannies buy them one of these

      Man, If my Grandmother ever bought me anything video game related, I'd be impressed all to hell.
      Who are these grannies? Maybe I should start visiting old folks homes.

    5. Re:Why? by KarmaSafe · · Score: 1

      Oh. Right. I don't worship at the altar of hideously outdated gaming systems which nobody in their right mind would buy at any price

      I'd be willing to pay a good $15 for any new, quality, genuinely fun games for my 7800. The cartridge based systems of the golden era had a few things going for them that top-of-the-line consoles don't. One nice thing was that the games rarely forced players to sit through long scenes before they were allowed to play. If you wanted to learn the story, you pulled out the manual. The "oooh, aaah" factor wasn't a huge selling point in Frogger or the Pitfall series, it was the fun gameplay. I'm so sick of eye candy, $300 consoles and $35 controllers. I'm tired of games that treat me like I'm five years old (Thanks Nintendo)! I hate how today's gaming population can't appreciate a good game if it doesn't boggle the mind with the number of polygons it uses.

      Granted, some of today's games are really fun (Crazy Taxi comes to mind). But I still routinely pull out my old systems when I'm bored. You know, the ones that used a storage medium that didn't need to be handled like glass. Insert: Ch-chunk! Play!

      I hope I'm in my right mind, but sometimes my PS2-playing friends wonder. ;)

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  14. this would make the teenager I used to be drool... by dario_moreno · · Score: 2

    10 games and a console for $20 !
    think about getting richer !

    it's the same with MAME or P2P to get
    records from the 80's : my purchasing power
    has increased by millions, well beyond
    my wildest dreams of the time !

    10's of consoles and computers for a few bucks,
    thousands of games and weeks of pop music...

    funny how a 1981 Porsche in good shape
    still costs a lot...
    (think Risky Business here)

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  15. Re:The point being? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh shut your fucking face, you whingy bitch. Don't buy it, don't play it, and get on with your life.

    Talking of life, get one. Stop using a nick that plays off of a well known troll, and stop pretending that you don't want people to think that you're egg-troll. Get your own damn trolling material. Fuck stick.

  16. Milking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Infogrames really are milking their licenses these days.
    Probably because of there failure to release any halfway decent games in the last 5 years.


    However, I'm sure a Portable Atari 2600 will solve all their financial problems . :o)

    1. Re:Milking by TomHandy · · Score: 1

      Infogrames hasn't released any half-way decent games? Are you joking?

      Here are just a few of the "half-way decent games" they have released or will be releasing soon:

      Alone in the Dark, Hero X, Oddworld Games, Stuntman, Unreal (including Unreal 2, Unreal Tournament, UT2K3, etc.), Risk II, Driver, Test Drive Series, V-Rally 3, Independence War (and IW2), MechCommander, Civilization III, Master of Orion III, Neverwinter Nights, Total Annihilation.

      -Tom

    2. Re:Milking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All those games were published by Infogrames.
      Infogrames studio's haven't produced any half way decent games!

      HTH

  17. Re:this would make the teenager I used to be drool by foniksonik · · Score: 1

    Just for SAG I'll say you're dating yourself gentleman.

    Enjoy it while it lasts.

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  18. Mega Joy 2 by FrenZon · · Score: 4, Informative

    There's something like this already available in the mega joy 2 - since the games are all unlicenced, they all have different names, but you get three-times the names.

    1. Re:Mega Joy 2 by FrenZon · · Score: 0, Redundant

      but you get three-times the names.

      With spelling like that, I should be a /. editer.

      (names = games)

    2. Re:Mega Joy 2 by FrenZon · · Score: 0, Redundant

      With spelling like that, I should be a /. editer.

      oh shat

    3. Re:Mega Joy 2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...there are already other knock-offs being sold. I've seen something similar being sold in a "pound shop" here in Dublin last year. I'm pretty sure you can still get them. If you can get them here in Ireland they must be available elsewhere...

    4. Re:Mega Joy 2 by raindog2 · · Score: 2, Informative

      The MJ2 and its various clones are actually based on the NES (8-bit Nintendo). Still nostalgic, and I'd buy it just to play Mappy on hotel room TV's, but really aimed at the generation after those who would buy this Atari thing ;)

      OTOH, there is already a licensed Activision one which I see now and then at Toys-R-Us and Walmart, and that one is based on the 2600 (and includes Pitfall, among others.) In fact, it's from the same Jakks subsidiary, Toymax:

      http://www.toymax.com/ToyCentral/EL/10in1.htm

      As I understand it, it's not actually a complete clone of the 2600, just enough to get those specific games working (and apparently the Atari-licensed ones in the new version as well.)

  19. Re:The point being? by KILNA · · Score: 1

    Whingy? I love AC's.

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  20. Long time go see Bill!! - Speaking of Atari's by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Kick ASS! -- Nice to see you name around Bill, as a die-hard Atarian I also just met up with Bob Puff awhile ago also. Now speaking of Atari's what ever happened to K-Products?

    Thought I'd ask on /.

    >> Gary
    Still using the 800XL till this day

  21. Re:The point being? by beebware · · Score: 1

    To me, the Atari 2600 games were extremely playable. Keystone Kops, that Tank game (I can't remember) and of course Space Invaders... Many a happy hour.

  22. Who will buy it? by clickety6 · · Score: 0, Redundant

    When for the same sort of price you cna get a Mega Joy II based on the old Famicom - so better graphics - and contains 60 games (although not all are worth playing!).

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    1. Re:Who will buy it? by ProlificSage · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Those who remember coming home from school and ignoring our homework to see how many times we could flip Asteroids before supper.

      Those who remember having to mow two lawns to afford to buy Missile Command

      Those who despise today's multi-function "game controllers" and long for the day of a one button joystick

      Those who now have the cash to buy all the games they could never afford as kids.

      That, IMHO, is who will buy it.

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  23. Cool. by MrFredBloggs · · Score: 2

    Though you can get a NES clone in the UK - built into a N64 controller - for £15-30!

  24. Re:The point being? by eggstasy · · Score: 1

    I dont know anyone by the name of egg-troll, and eggstasy has been my IRC nickname since 1996.
    Furthermore, I was under the impression that this was /. where ppl came to COMMENT on the news, and so my commentary was that i didnt really see the point of re-releasing shitty 30-year old games, and i DONT.The gaming industry should be thinkiong about moving forward, not backwards. I have a 1-year old computer and pretty much all games still run at full speed, because they all pretty much have shitty graphics. Where's the ambition of these people? It's a really bad sign when shitty consoles have better graphics than a powerful computer.Most software is lagging far behind present hardware capabilities. Give me decent graphics like FFX has, and a reason for ppl to actually want to buy a geforce 4 dammit!

  25. Atari 2600 schematics and details by brejc8 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Does anyone have the Atari 2600 schematics and details of its consruction and roms? Every year the third years have to create something as a part of their third year project and its allways something that never gets used anyway. So making all the chips in hardware on an FPGA might be cool.

    1. Re:Atari 2600 schematics and details by delta407 · · Score: 1

      Try here -- it's a good starting point. There are schematics as well as links to other helpful pages.

    2. Re:Atari 2600 schematics and details by TheAlchemist · · Score: 5, Informative

      Yes, we have schematics of the 2600 on our site, you can find them here:

      Atari 2600 Schematics - NTSC
      Atari 2600 Schematics - PAL

      As for details of its construction and roms, there are quite a few knowledgable people who visit our message boards, and they can probably answer any specific questions you have.

    3. Re:Atari 2600 schematics and details by Megane · · Score: 2
      In order to do this, you would need VHDL of a 6502 core, the RIOT I/O chip, and most importantly, the Stella graphics chip, perhaps the only 1-D graphics chip ever made.

      It would be tough to emulate the quirks of Stella without knowledge of the exact circuitry it used (the details of which are probably lost to history), but for a limited subset of games such as this, you could do testing to make sure all the games work. Emulating Stella is the most complex part of any software Atari 2600 emulator.

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    4. Re:Atari 2600 schematics and details by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I been thinking that an Commodore 64 in a FPGA would be very cool. A single chip C64 :)it could even be a usful embedded chip :0

  26. The Real Question is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Will it run Linux?

    1. Re:The Real Question is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And the real answer is: imagine a Beowulf cluster of these!

    2. Re:The Real Question is... by aunchaki · · Score: 1

      No, but it'll be running NetBSD by Friday!

    3. Re:The Real Question is... by sharkey · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Just imagine a Beowulf cluster of these!

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  27. One thing missing... by x136 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It would be perfect (in my book) if it had an actual 2600 cartridge slot. Both joysticks for my 2600 are pretty much dead, the console itself may be too. But I have a bunch of games I miss playing, and emulation doesn't cut it for me.

    That said, it's still cool. :) Too bad it doesn't have River Raid built in. Oh well.

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    1. Re:One thing missing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Check out the Activision 10-in-1. The game's in this one...
      Review (No River Raid mention)
      Order at Spiegel's (First place I found to buy it...)

    2. Re:One thing missing... by tregoweth · · Score: 2

      That's okay -- this has River Raid. And I still suck at it...

  28. Sad really by Diabolical · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's sad to see Atari's legacy being abused by yet another company who just lives on Atari's fame.

    Atari used to be a great systems manufacturer as well as a gaming company. Their ST line was very good and could compete with the Amiga in it's days. Their STacy an STBook were great portables where the STBook was way better then what any company could offer as a portable. It took years for the industrie to reach the same kind of portability as the STBook offered.

    Alas, Atari is no more. The companies diverse owners just broke it into little parts and sold them to the highest bidders.. There are few companies which have had a change of ownership so frequently as Atari has.

    Take a look at http://www.atari-history.com for some background information on Atari and it's products

    1. Re:Sad really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah, it could compete and then lose with the Amiga. Seriously, the Amiga was so much better than the ST. The AmigaOS was exceptionally well-desgined and resource-efficient (for the time), and the Amiga gfx hardware was extremely powerful (for the time), with some better 2D abilities than even modern PC gfx cards (sync-to-external-video capability and sub-pixel scrolling, for example, not to mention the beam-synchronised gfx coprocessor for special effects...)

      It's just a shame the Amiga and Atari ST spent so much time fighting eachother, instead of the real enemy, the PC, which was so incredibly inferior to either at the time.

    2. Re:Sad really by larien · · Score: 4, Funny

      Let the ST vs Amiga flamewars commence! :)

    3. Re:Sad really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      The most important reason why the ST could compete for a small period of time, with the Amiga was th result of it was somewhat cheaper.

      The Amiga did have an alot more powerful graphics chipset, as well as better (stereo) audio and most of all a truly advanced multimedia operating system.

    4. Re:Sad really by MrFredBloggs · · Score: 1

      Seriously, the st was an amiga without the blitter,copper,nice keyboard,resolution,sound,games,support...in fact, the only thing the ST had was a 3% faster cpu, and a midi port (which you could get for the amiga for about £20 in 197!).

      Over to you, TOSsers ;)

    5. Re:Sad really by goodEvans · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's sad to see Atari's legacy being abused by yet another company who just lives on Atari's fame.

      JUST LIVES ON ATARI'S FAME? Infogrames has been around and making bloody great games for nearly 20 years! I had Infogrames games on my old Amstrad CPC464, back in 1986-89!

      I smell a troll...

    6. Re:Sad really by sbsaylors · · Score: 1

      Well if another great product was sold/resold & mish-mashed by the owners more then most it would be Amiga... but the atari never really got a chance with the portable thing --- not 'really', where the amiga had the toaster, vglasses, etc... but atlas --- both "A" machines are gone ... must be a curse huh? Thankfully Linux choose the letter "L". Then again Ainux just looks wierd :)

    7. Re:Sad really by Lictor · · Score: 2

      Yeah, but could you play multiplayer netmaze on several Amigas by daisy-chaining their MIDI ports together?

      Oh yeah, and I think you could actually use the ST MIDI ports for MIDI too ;) Seriously though, before Macs became (slightly) more affordable, there was a time when an ST with Cubase was a decent sequencing solution.

    8. Re:Sad really by smaug195 · · Score: 1

      Or even worse, Linux may have called it Anus.

    9. Re:Sad really by radish · · Score: 2


      Everyone's forgetting the STe, which had most of those things (i.e. Stereo sound with a DSP for hardware playback, blitter, etc).

      So from an avid ST owner what does it offer over the Amiga? Well there's a real, DOS compatible file system for a start. The Amiga didn't have directories on it's floppys, so we would laugh as the Amiga owner stuck in a disk full of mods and waited for 40 seconds while it scanned the disk to build the dir tree. By that time we were already rocking :)

      STs were (IMHO) also more reliable that Amigas too...there was a joke going round I remember - "What's the difference between an Amiga and a Boeing?" - "A Boeing can only crash the once".

      And STs looked better. Anyway, I got bored of these arguments 10 years ago :)

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    10. Re:Sad really by ncc74656 · · Score: 2
      It's sad to see Atari's legacy being abused by yet another company who just lives on Atari's fame.

      JUST LIVES ON ATARI'S FAME? Infogrames has been around and making bloody great games for nearly 20 years! I had Infogrames games on my old Amstrad CPC464, back in 1986-89!

      FWIW, I don't think anybody in the States had even heard of them until a couple of years or so ago. (The first I'd ever heard of them was some DMCA-related bullying on their part that had been posted to /. ...my initial reaction was "Info-who?") I even spent a few years in Europe in the mid-80s, and don't recall hearing of them then. (Then again, I had a TI-99/4A and an Apple IIe at home and DoDDS put various Atari computers in its schools (though they started buying Apple IIGS systems in '87 or '88). If they weren't publishing for those systems, I wouldn't have had any use for them.)

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    11. Re:Sad really by DrCode · · Score: 2

      Even though I wrote software for the ST, and have never used an Amiga, I'd guess that you're right. The Atari did offer a powerful piece of hardware at a good price; but the OS, 'TOS', was not well-developed. I was one of the earliest app. developers (HabaWriter), and constantly had to fight with bugs that never seemed to get fixed. The GUI was a port of GEM, but was not nearly as stable as the x86 version.

      (Funny, though, how GEM could run on both big- and little-endian systems way back in the mid-80's.)

    12. Re:Sad really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > So from an avid ST owner what does it offer over the Amiga? Well there's a real, DOS compatible file system for a start.

      Well MSDOS file system wasn't really much to brag abouit. Also Workbench 2.1 came standardly with CrossDOS which allowed you to read MSDOS disks.

      > The Amiga didn't have directories on it's floppys

      ?? I don't understand what you are talking about. You can have directories on Amiga diskettes just as easily as on Amiga harddrives...

    13. Re:Sad really by dswensen · · Score: 2

      FWIW, I don't think anybody in the States had even heard of them until a couple of years or so ago.

      So by "anybody in the States," you mean "you," I think.

      Infogrames published Alone in the Dark back in 1993, which was one of the first games I played on an old 386. That's a little longer than a couple of years ago, as old as it makes me feel to say that. I know I can't be the only person who remembers Alone in the Dark, for crying out loud.

    14. Re:Sad really by Stween · · Score: 1

      It's sad to see Atari's legacy being abused by
      yet another company who just lives on Atari's
      fame.

      Articles I've read (one in PC Gamer, i think ... that is the UK one, not the US one) on infogrames buying the atari name have said that they intend to use the Atari name to distribute some of their higher quality *new* games.

      This sounded interesting to me. In fact someone hinted that over time Infogrames would like to end up using the Atari brand for everything (although I take that story with a pinch of salt, considering the Infogrames name is pretty well respected anyway, and to get rid of it would be pointless).

      In fact, looking at www.atari.com I see new games for the PS2. Granted, I haven't heard much at all of these games, but I'm sure Infogrames have a master plan, and are testing the water first before they jump into the waters with the Atari label on a big games.

    15. Re:Sad really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      both "A" machines are gone ... must be a curse huh?
      DOn't forget the Adam... ok, DO forget the Adam. (Acorn?, Altair?)

    16. Re:Sad really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The funniest part of the ST was when a teenager from Germany decided that a part of the OS (don't remember its name, had something to do with fonts) was written poorly and wrote a much better version on his own. The good ol' days.

    17. Re:Sad really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WTF? Of course the amiga had directories on its floppies. Are you mad?

      And CrossDOS for Amiga was bundled with the OS for years. Thus enabling you to read+write PeeCee/ST disks.

    18. Re:Sad really by goodEvans · · Score: 1

      Yep. And a little further back, about 1988 I think, this unknown software house published a little game that enjoyed a minor cult success.

      SIM CITY!

      I dunno, I feckin give up.

    19. Re:Sad really by MrFredBloggs · · Score: 1

      He means (i think!) that the ST had an msdos style directory structure so you have a few sectors which contain info about all the files on the disk. Advantage - typeing DIR gets you fast results. Disadvantage - lose that data, and you`ve lost all the data on the disk (unless you want to piece it all together by hand).

      The amiga had this godawful slow system where the OS had to look at the root block, and follow loads of links (header blocks, extension blocks etc) to build a list of what was on the disk. Disadvantage:slow! Advantage: you could go through the disk building up data about what sort of block was there, what it pointed to etc (redundant data pointing in both directions) so you could often recover everything. But yeah, having to calcuate hash values etc,follow linked lists and so on meant you tried to avoid writing code to read/write floppies yourself.

  29. Re:The point being? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Guess what ? We have this thing called CHOICE in the world. If you don't want to do something DON'T. Quit whining about how you don't want to, already.

    Secondly, did it ever occur to you that other people might enjoy the very games you think are worthless ? No ? The world revolves around you and your opinions, I see.

  30. Re:The point being? by mikeporter · · Score: 0

    River Raid RULES! Hall of Fame

  31. It's NOT an Atari 2600 -- don't be confused by psyconaut · · Score: 5, Informative

    I believe, until I'm corrected, that this is not actually an Atari 2600 (or anything even vaguely similar) but rather Jakks existing hardware system with classic Atari games ported to it.

    (Just to clear up the comments about "wish it had a cartridge slot).

    -marc

  32. Opinions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Humans have no other way of forming an opinion than basing it on the sum total of all knowledge possessed by the individual. Well-read and well-traveled people will likely have opinions based on more information than a person who has lived in the middle of nowhere and sat on their ass drinking beer and smoking Marlboros all his life.

    What this gets at is that an opinion is a very personal thing to each individual. You hold the opinion that you are smart enough to tell others that theirs are wrong. That is certainly debatable.

    Should all opinions be held equally valid if we are to assume that they are the best congerings of one's mind? Of course they shouldn't. Someone who has an opinion about something with which he has experience should have greater validity attached to his opinion than someone with no experience.

    Thus, if we look at eggstacy's post we see that he has experience with the Atari platform. He says he doesn't see the point in dredging up old games and platforms that are simple outmatched in every way by today's systems. You offer us platitudes about how "we have this thing called choice". You offer no opinion but have much to say about another's.

    Shame on you.

    1. Re:Opinions by Tarquin+Sidebottom · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      "What this gets at is that an opinion is a very personal thing to each individual. You hold the opinion that you are smart enough to tell others that theirs are wrong. That is certainly debatable."

      Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments

  33. In other related news by phunhippy · · Score: 1, Funny

    Sony reacted to the new product as expected. Effective Friday, the price on all PS2's will be dropped to $19.95....

    In other related news, Microsoft has bought 17 US senators and 112 US representatives and have managed to get a law passed that requires each family with a kid under 18 to purchase an X-Box system every 3 years to continue the support of American companies vs the "evil" dumping practices of the Japanese gaming giants!

    1. Re:In other related news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yah, brute force is the only way people will buy the ms-box ;)

    2. Re:In other related news by MarkGriz · · Score: 1

      In addition, X-box games will be exempt from the proposed legislation banning sales of violent video games to minors.

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    3. Re:In other related news by jasonbw · · Score: 1

      great idea! If they were losing money on each $299 system, forcing about 20 million purchases of the $199 price will drive ms into the red!

      Oh..you probably meant they should buy games too.

  34. Re:this would make the teenager I used to be drool by KILNA · · Score: 1

    I'd date myself, except I'm not into guys.

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  35. Picture? by Mika_Lindman · · Score: 1

    Anybody has a link where I could see what this thing looks like? Have they really put it all in somekinda joystick?

  36. CmdrTaco and dictionaries by tps12 · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    This page was generated by a Flock of Uber Monkeys

    "Uber" is not an adjective. It is an adverb that is wishing for something other than "Monkeys" to describe.

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  37. Re:The point being? by phunhippy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm sorry, would someone please enlighten me a bit on this matter?
    Who on earth wants to play atari 2600 games?


    Think of it this way..
    Playing atari games is kinda like bringing back good memories really cheaply.. hell if it comes with pit-fall i'd pay 20 bux to be able to plug into an rca jack anywhere and play.. it's fun..
    Think if it this way..
    Its the same thing as wanting or going back to an old gf(or bf i suppose.. dunno not, gay) ya know what your getting, when your getting, know where and how to hit all the right buttons and since you've played it alot before you can just shut it off when your done :)

  38. Wico joysticks r00l by Perianwyr+Stormcrow · · Score: 2

    I got my first one fourth-hand, and it was smooth and awesome. I was always looking for its equal in a stick for a second player (mostly for use with my c64,) and was never able to find it.

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    1. Re:Wico joysticks r00l by Megane · · Score: 2

      That's because the Wico used real leaf switches, just like arcade machines used. I snag one every now and then for a buck or two at a thrift store, and eventually I'll get around to converting a few of them for the Atari 7800 or ColecoVision right buttons. (I lucked into a pair of 3rd-party keypads for ColecoVision which have a joystick port, but they still need a joystick with a right button.)

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  39. Replayability? by Perianwyr+Stormcrow · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Name one single atari 2600 game that actually has a decent plot, good replayability, long shelflife and non-repetitive gameplay."

    Plot: Do you complain when your game of checkers doesn't have any love interests in it?

    Replayability: the name of the game with these old Atari games. You never really beat them- you're mostly competing against yourself.

    Shelflife: Witness the plethora of 2600 emulators out there. Geez.

    Non-repetitive gameplay: See "plot", above. What are you looking for, final fantasy?

    Old Atari games may not have beautiful, amazing graphics, but many of them are unbeatable in the arena of actual gameplay.

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    1. Re:Replayability? by Yorrike · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Agreed. Now if only Nintendo would release an NES controller with the original Donkey Kong and other Game and Watch remakes built in.

      Or, a similar system to this Atari deal, but with Commodore 64 titles built in. Oh to play Raid Over Moscow or the original ChopLifter 2 (I know, I can get an emulator to do it all, but it's just not the same... it feels hollow)

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    2. Re:Replayability? by spyderbyte23 · · Score: 2
      Agreed. Now if only Nintendo would release an NES controller with the original Donkey Kong and other Game and Watch remakes built in.
      Something very much like this was released by a mysterious company called Mega Joy -- an N64 controller that contained 50-odd Nintendo games. The Register has details.

      A friend of mine bought this and likes his a lot, although he's not much of a gamer. The Reg mentions them selling for ten pounds in the UK; I think my friend says his was about ~$20.

      It seems you can't buy them any more, of course. There are none listed on eBay, and googling for them some time back didn't turn up anything, so I assume Nintendo burned down the factory producing them, and seeded the ground with salt.

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    3. Re:Replayability? by Inoshiro · · Score: 2

      "Non-repetitive gameplay: See "plot", above. What are you looking for, final fantasy?"

      If you're looking for "Final Fantasy," you're looking in the wrong place. I've played through "Final Fantasy" 3 times now; it seems very repetitive to me.

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    4. Re:Replayability? by matrix29 · · Score: 2

      Something very much like this was released by a mysterious company called Mega Joy -- an N64 controller that contained 50-odd Nintendo games. The Register has details. [theregister.co.uk]
      A friend of mine bought this and likes his a lot, although he's not much of a gamer. The Reg mentions them selling for ten pounds in the UK; I think my friend says his was about ~$20.

      It seems you can't buy them any more, of course. There are none listed on eBay, and googling for them some time back didn't turn up anything, so I assume Nintendo burned down the factory producing them, and seeded the ground with salt.


      Quick GOOGLE result for "Meja Joy"
      http://www.paramountzone.com/megajoy.htm

      http://www.gadgets.co.uk/megajoy2.html

      Downside is this blurb - "(This product is not designed to work in the USA or any other country using the NTSC system.)" Sorry, unless you've got a PAL TV set or got a PAL converter (or an old Amiga monitor that can display a PAL signal [hint hint]) I guess you cannot use it.

      Here's a site with a PAL > NTSC converter for $59
      http://www.xbox-online.net/flash/x6c.htm
      (Sorry about it being on a BugBoX website, still at the moment it is the cheapest I've found)

      Another note - DAMN! They have MAPPY on it. I love that cute mouse being chased around by adorable kittens with a delightful tune in the background as they rebound off trampolines to each level.

      One more thing Jackie Chan!
      (Found this in the search)
      http://www.protectv.com/
      Q. How does PROTECTV work?
      A. PROTECTV works through the captioning that runs through television programming, videos, and DVD's. PROTECTV works with both the audio as well as the written captions that are available. Every time an offensive word is spoken it is compared to a dictionary of over 400 words and phrases and if the word or phrase matches, it is deleted from the soundtrack and captioning. The viewer will experience a momentary gap in the audio and for viewers reading the captions, the undesirable written word is replaced by XXXX's.

      (Goes into old lady Jewish mode)
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    5. Re:Replayability? by ncc74656 · · Score: 2
      Here's a site with a PAL > NTSC converter for $59
      http://www.xbox-online.net/flash/x6c.htm
      (Sorry about it being on a BugBoX website, still at the moment it is the cheapest I've found)

      That still wouldn't work as it doesn't put out a proper 29.97 fps NTSC signal...it's some 25 fps variant that I think is used in some South American countries. It converts the color information to something resembling NTSC (they don't say if it uses 3.58 MHz or 4.43 (?) MHz color burst), but the framerate is unaltered.

      That said, if you have a video-capture or TV-tuner card in your computer, there's a fair chance you can kick it into PAL mode. The machine on which I'm typing this has a generic four-port Bt878-based capture card; playing with one of the unused ports in GraphEdit, the property page for the capture filter had a couple of options for NTSC, maybe a dozen for PAL, and a few for SECAM. IIRC, the All-In-Wonder Radeon in my home system has some similar options.

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    6. Re:Replayability? by matrix29 · · Score: 2

      That still wouldn't work as it doesn't put out a proper 29.97 fps NTSC signal...it's some 25 fps variant that I think is used in some South American countries. It converts the color information to something resembling NTSC (they don't say if it uses 3.58 MHz or 4.43 (?) MHz color burst), but the framerate is unaltered.

      That said, if you have a video-capture or TV-tuner card in your computer, there's a fair chance you can kick it into PAL mode. The machine on which I'm typing this has a generic four-port Bt878-based capture card; playing with one of the unused ports in GraphEdit, the property page for the capture filter had a couple of options for NTSC, maybe a dozen for PAL, and a few for SECAM. IIRC, the All-In-Wonder Radeon in my home system has some similar options.


      Thanks! I've seen the TV-Tuner cards going for $50. I was going to suggest the APEX DVD player too as that is the "Everything" bit of wonderful hardware that would do the job well.

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  40. Re:The point being? by Humanclone · · Score: 1

    YEEAAAHH!!! I loved that game. That was one of my favorite past times before C64 BASIC.

  41. Portable? by saqmaster · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It'd be cool if someone brought out a colour, handheld Atari system. It wouldn't cost much, I mean, compared to something like the NeoGeo handheld or gameboy.

    Just imagine it, sitting on the train, and people start hearing the classic Asteroids noises coming from your handheld.

    Within minutes everyone will want a go. Nostalgia at it's best!

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    1. Re:Portable? by Sabalon · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's what I thought right after I read the article. A small screen would suffice - we're not talking about losing quailty on the graphics :)

      You could probably put a few megs of ROM in it and preload it with just about every Atari game out there.

      The only problems I see are:
      - getting permissions to package the ROM's
      - you'd not want to do it the above way because once you sold one, there is no reason for someone to come back and buy more games from you. So that means some sort of media to swap games in and out, which means more cost.

    2. Re:Portable? by saqmaster · · Score: 1

      Yeah, that's true.

      There are options though; Use some form of smart/flash-media to store games. However, storing a 32k game on a (min.) 2mb media is a waste.

      Even if you did do that, people would release a cartridge with every game on it - just like they did with the GameGear and GameBoy, you just can't stop it.

      Then.. you could make use of better hardware and storage and maybe improve the games - kinda same thing they did to the 2600 when the 7800 came out (more colours, same games etc.). That would be cool.

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    3. Re:Portable? by WeedMonkey · · Score: 1

      ITYM "within minutes, everyone will want to beat you around the head with any heavy objects that may be lying around".

      bleep
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      <thump thump thump>

    4. Re:Portable? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just yesterday I was reading about the number of emulators available for POCKET PC, including Atari 2600. That was much more exciting than this device, and it sent me searching the net for Pocket PC's only to find that they cost $400 and the battery life is rediculously low. Disgusting.

    5. Re:Portable? by jockm · · Score: 2

      32K! The 6507 (yes you read that right) could only address 4K. Most games were either 4K or 8K (via bank switching).

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    6. Re:Portable? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I used to be an assistant manager at a FuncoLand. One of my regular customer's came with this very cool piece of hardware which can now be found here:
      http://www.classicgaming.com/vcsp/

  42. Portable? I think not by galaga79 · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's a bit deceptive to refer to it as a portable system considering you need to plug it into a TV to actually to use it. By using the word portable I thought something along the lines of Puma the portable Atari 2600 where a Sega Game Gear has been converted into a portable Atari 2600 complete with its own display.

    There is a whole site dedicated to Atari 2600 portable conversion projects that has been discussed in this and repeated in this Slashdot article.

    1. Re:Portable? I think not by PsyQ · · Score: 2, Informative

      That's not a Sega Game Gear, it's a Nomad. The Game Gear was an original system based off Sega's Master System hardware but with a better graphics subsystem (more colors). The Nomad was a complete Sega Mega Drive (Genesis in the US) compressed into a handheld console. It played the original Genesis cartridges without any modification, giving it a library of hundreds of games right at its day of release.

      To some, the Nomad is STILL the best handheld system ever released, because of the varied and deep selection of games.

      Maybe I'm karma-whoring :)

    2. Re:Portable? I think not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Portable in what sense? This is portable. On the other hand, this is not.

      It is all a matter of perception.

    3. Re:Portable? I think not by RESPAWN · · Score: 2

      That's not a Sega Game Gear, it's a Nomad. The Game Gear was an original system based off Sega's Master System hardware but with a better graphics subsystem (more colors). The Nomad was a complete Sega Mega Drive (Genesis in the US) compressed into a handheld console. It played the original Genesis cartridges without any modification, giving it a library of hundreds of games right at its day of release.



      I was going to correct him until I saw your post. Nice to see that somebody else realized his mistake. However, it is sad to see that this guy converted a Sega Nomad and not a Game Gear. The Nomad really was one of the best portables I've ever played. I purchased one new for $150 after the first christmas they were out, and sold my Game Gear the next day. I already had a Genesis and 4 times as many games for it as my Game Gear. Plus, the Nomad used the same power adapter and RF adapter that the Genesis used, and included a second controller port (really only useful when hooked up to the TV as the built-in screen wasn't meant for two people to view it) so I didn't have to buy any extra peripherals. The only complaint I ever had about the thing was the horrible battery life. I think the most I ever got from the thing was like 3 hours on a set of batteries. This is of course because of the wonderful color, back-lit screen in the Nomad. And despite what others may think, I would never have traded off that great screen for better battery life.


      That said, I still can't believe this guy hacked up a Nomad to build this thing. The Nomad is a relatively rare piece of hardware and can still command a decent price. I sold mine a couple of years ago for ~$100. That's not much depreciation for the video game world. Then again, mine was still in pristine condition, complete with orgianl packaging, including twist ties and plastic bags, and the original receipt of purchase. I take care of my stuff. But I digress...


      In fact, I'm not even sure what the purpose of this post was...

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    4. Re:Portable? I think not by VisorGuy · · Score: 1

      Besides hacking up various Atari's, Ben has also made a portable PlayStation and SNES.
      Pretty cool stuff!

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    5. Re:Portable? I think not by Bill+Kendrick · · Score: 2

      Ben is cool. I hung out with him a lot at least year's Classic Gaming Expo. The portable 2600s were cool, and I love the way you can 'link' them for two-player games like Combat.

      Now if only Infogrames or JAKKS would hire this guy, we'd have a REAL retro system to stick in our pockets.

      (Of course, I've got Stella on my Zaurus, but it's not quite the same.)

  43. I name one. by Karoshi · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Moon Patrol.

    More (screenshots etc) here:
    http://www.atariage.com/software_page.html? Softwar eID=1159

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    1. Re:I name one. by TheAlchemist · · Score: 1

      Here's a handier link,

      AtariAge - Moon Patrol Profile

  44. great! by Romancer · · Score: 1


    That's nine less emulators I need to have on my Game cabinet!

    Hope the cartriges are easy to port :)

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  45. Re:The point being? by Bob+The+Nob · · Score: 1

    Ice Race. I could play that for hours. I've never played Mario-anything for more than 15 minutes.

  46. I wonder... by PerryMason · · Score: 1

    I wonder just how long it will be before these things are outselling the Xbox? :P

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  47. �ber by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is correctly spelled with an umlaut, or if the keyboard doesn't have that key, it is acceptable to spell it as Ueber.

    1. Re:�ber by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ha! You're expecting too much!

      They are still pronouncing "Fronkonsteen"...

      These Usians...

  48. What, again? by lightspawn · · Score: 3, Interesting
    This is just like the Activision/Toymax dealie from last year.


    Why can't I have one with _ALL_ the commercially released games? Connected to some compactflash card or whatever? Think about how much space your old atari carts are taking up. And those 5 million E.T. carts in the landfill.


    Same goes for NES, SNES, SMS, Genesis, and PCE and I'm set for life.


    Sorry, it's late/early and I'm rambling.

    1. Re:What, again? by Chanc_Gorkon · · Score: 2

      I was going to say I saw something like this last year...I can't believe this warrants a story. Yeah, it's neat, but in my opinion, there is MORE interesting stuff out there worth posting. It is cool, but call me when they get the whole library on one unit. It IS possible.

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  49. Re:The point being? by w4r3z_d00d · · Score: 1

    Its the same thing as wanting or going back to an old gf

    LOL!@! this is slashdot. mod parent +5, funny

  50. Re:The point being? by lightspawn · · Score: 2
    if it comes with pit-fall i'd pay 20 bux to be able to plug into an rca jack anywhere and play.. it's fun..


    Yeah, the toymax unit I mentioned earlier comes with 10 activision games, one of which is pitfall. You may find it for $20, maybe even less.

  51. Re:The point being? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Ok,

    How about parents with younger children, who don't want to spend much on something that will probably get broken fairly quickly.

    It retricts the kids to playing it on the TV which allows for greater control over it's usage than say a GameBoy which they can sit anywhere out of sight with.

    The games relied on gameplay rather than complicated plots, much easier for a younger child to master, take 2 young children. Explain to one how to play space invaders, try and explain to the other how to organise the members of thier team in Dungeon Siege and the benefits of +x modifiers and don't forget to keep the 4 or 5 health bars on the left of the screen up...

    Just because you do not play with duplo bricks, it does not mean there is no market for such a product.

  52. ATV jacks??? by jabberw0k · · Score: 1

    article says it will plug into "a TV with ATV input jacks (standard on almost all sets manufactured within the past decade)."

    Anyone have a clue what "ATV input jacks" are? Do they mean RCA jacks?

    ATV sounds like some European thing. Google didn't return any helpful links, mostly talking about Amateur radio TV or All-Terrain Vehicles.

    1. Re:ATV jacks??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Isn't it obvious? It's where you connect to your TV your Armored Trooper VOTOMS!

      ATV @

  53. One Word by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Awesome...

  54. Portable? by AlastairMurray · · Score: 0

    Portable but has to plug into a TV? Well by that merit a PS2 is 'portable'.
    To me a portable games console is something likea game-boy.

  55. Re:The point being? by ABeit · · Score: 1

    Its the same thing as wanting or going back to an old gf

    An OLD girlfriend? You mean you've had more than one? Good God, share the wealth, man!

  56. Mega Joy 2 is PAL Only by nuxx · · Score: 2

    Unfortunately the Mega Joy 2 seems to be PAL only. A converter would help, but it'd be nice to just take it anywhere and plug it in.

    -Steve

    1. Re:Mega Joy 2 is PAL Only by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have something just like that for my US (NTSC?) TV. A bunch of NES games stuck onto a Nintendo 64-looking control that plugs into your TV. It also came with a Sega Genesis kind of control for 2 player games, and a little light gun. It was fun for a while but then I thought maybe I should have just saved my money and downloaded an emulator. On the other hand I get to play Duck Hunt with a light gun!

  57. What would really be cool.. by glh · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Is if you could somehow download new ROMS to the joystick. Perhaps even the ROMS that are out there on the internet. I wonder if someone could easily hack one of these things to do that? It'd be nice to see some hardware specs.

  58. Thinkgeek by Ratface · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is something that would *so* fit ThinkGeek's product line. I hope someone from there keeps an eye on the status of this product and gets them in stock when they are finally availabe.

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    1. Re:Thinkgeek by gosand · · Score: 2
      This is something that would *so* fit ThinkGeek's product line.

      Exept they would charge $29.99 for it. :-)

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  59. Multiple uses by Chardish · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    The Atari 2600 - plays great retro games, and allows you to dial long distance phone calls for free on old hardware!

    Next will come the Atari PBX Rewiring Utility ;) -Evan

  60. it has to be said... by 68k+geek · · Score: 1

    imagine a beowolf cluster of those! LOL

  61. Analogue TeleVision ? by vrai · · Score: 1

    I assume its just an old-skool RF jack. I guess SCART/SVHS would be overkill for VCS2600 style graphics.

    1. Re:Analogue TeleVision ? by operagost · · Score: 1

      No, if it was RF then any TV made since about the 1950s would do! I'm sure they mean composite video.

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  62. Egads by jeek · · Score: 1
    Imagine a Beowulf cluster of these.

    Oh.. oh.. I'm getting moist.

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  63. More games... by NeoSkandranon · · Score: 1

    This is a cool idea for those of you who were around when Atari was in it's heyday (geez i feel young sayin that..guess i am tho, the NES was my first console) But i think if they really want this to take off they need to release a couple of 'em, that encompass the entire game library, not just a few "best sellers"

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  64. Re:The point being? by Peyna · · Score: 2

    That doesn't have mean more than 1... he could have had 1, dumped her, and that's been it =]

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  65. Why won't it come with Doom2600? by wackybrit · · Score: 1, Troll

    Come on. One of the greatest games ever.. DOOM on the Atari 2600

  66. Atari haiku. by supabeast! · · Score: 2

    Atari still lives!
    Oh how I miss those arcades.
    Now bring back pinball!

  67. Still a couple of things good about those old game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...playing them only makes me realize how far technology has progressed.

    Not to disagree in general, but there are a couple of things about those Atari games still worth mentioning:

    How about visibility? Those games were almost all a lot easier to see. There are too many state-of-the-art games now, especially 3-d first person shooters, where there is little contrast on the screen and most everything is muddy dark brown on black.

    Joysticks? I have yet to see a controller as good as the standard Atari joystick. Of course, I've not paid $50 to get the best state of the art current controller, so maybe there are good controllers among the super expensive ones. But the typical Nintendo/etc style gamepads just don't cut it.

  68. ST line vs Macintosh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Their ST line was very good and could compete with the Amiga in it's day

    The ST was one of the first to show how overpriced and poorly designed the Mac was. An AtariST with the same Motorola CPU as the Mac out at that time running a Macintosh software emulator actually ran Mac software FASTER than the actual Macintosh it was emulating. And didn't it cost something like 1/3 or 1/5 as much as the Macintosh?

    1. Re:ST line vs Macintosh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Heh you could do the same on an Amiga using the Shapeshifter emulator. It really shows Macs were pretty crap for their time. Well MSDOS wa even far worse.

  69. Right on! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm glad emulators kept my interest in this old system alive until now! Woohoo!

    Oops, sorry, sir. "Emulation costs the gaming industry billions of dollars each year." Yes it does. Yessiree.

  70. Proof for MAME Critics by robbway · · Score: 2

    This device, however inferior it may be to current game systems, proves that the MAME Critics are justified in their complaints. There is a commercial market for old ROMS. As long as the sales value of these ROMS is above zero, copying unlicensed ROMS, like those for ATARI, is stealing. Okay, maybe each one is about $1.00, but it's still theft, and now it's objectively quantified.

    1. Re:Proof for MAME Critics by robbway · · Score: 1

      My math sux. $20 divided by 10 is $2 per game.

    2. Re:Proof for MAME Critics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      These things have not even started selling, how can the price be justified?

    3. Re:Proof for MAME Critics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it's not theft. At best it is copyright infringement.

      U.S. copyright laws were never supposed to be about maximizing copyright holder's profits, but about maximizing the benefit to the public. How many years has it been since the Atari 2600 came out? 25? The original copyright law provided for a 14-year term with a 14-year renewal, and if those terms were in effect, the early Atari 2600 stuff would be just about ready to enter the public domain.

    4. Re:Proof for MAME Critics by vidarh · · Score: 2

      There may be a commercial market, but my guess is that a pretty high percentage of their customers will be people that want it because they love playing old games, and are likely using MAME or other emulators as well.

  71. And for those of you who can't wait... by uberdood · · Score: 2

    There's already a similar system out there.

    Just go to 9the Tee and look at their Arcade Video Game System - complete with two controllers, a light gun, and 76 built-in games. $36.95 Sure, it won't fit in your pocket, but still...

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    1. Re:And for those of you who can't wait... by zaren · · Score: 1

      Holy crap, that rocks. uberdood, you suck - I'm having a hard enough time scraping pocket change together to get new trinkets for my Newton, and now you show me this? :)

      I'm sure a lot of the games on this system are Japanese knock-offs, but who cares, as long as the gameplay is the same :D

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  72. Berzerk! by bytor4232 · · Score: 1

    Oh man! no Defender and Bezerk! What about Space Invaders! Those three were the bomb!

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  73. :Lost adulthood by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here is an idea. Get up off your lazy ass and find it yourself instead of waiting around for monmmy and daddy to do it for you

  74. MOderation so far by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Posted at +1
    Moderation Totals: Offtopic=1, Funny=2, Overrated=1, Total=4.

    brings me back to +1.... hehe :(

  75. What a ripoff! by artemis67 · · Score: 1

    Ten Atari 2600 games for $20? Why? They should have put the entire 2600 library in the ROM's and sold it for $20.

    I have a hard time seeing ten 2600 games giving me $20 worth of replayability, but maybe that's just me.

    1. Re:What a ripoff! by dmomo · · Score: 1

      You can't put ALL of them in there. Some games require different kinds of input devices (paddles, keypads, etc...), but I agree.

      If I can fit roms every version of every Atarii game ever made on zipped one floppy disk, they should be able to fit all of the games that they are able to liscence for the thing. Maybe that's the issue. Liscencing.

      $20 isn't THAT bad when you think about it. When you see these old games at the arcade, 25 cents isn't too much for just ONE game, though you can't beat that arcade experience.

      Personally, I am glad that the number of games is limited. When I downloaded Stella, along with every Atarii game ever made, I was disappointed at how fast I destroyed a fond childhood memory. Many of the games that I remembered as GREAT, really sucked. This might have been because I did not play any ONE long enough, since I had 500 at my disposal. To realease them in bits, you can at least destry the Nostalgia slowly!

    2. Re:What a ripoff! by david+duncan+scott · · Score: 2
      There is the small issue of licensing. It's one thing to d/l all those ROM images off the net for your private grins, but another to burn them into a device and sell it.

      But hey, you have my personal permission (not that it has any legal standing) to play all the Wall Ball you want.

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  76. Re:(notso)Wonderful Memories by kidyomo · · Score: 0

    Iagreewiththispost.
    Recently, I downloaded a Spectrum emulator with the 720 rom. I remember playing that in the arcade when it first came out, and distinctly remember being amazed to see it on the ZXSpectrum.
    Well, I can honestly say that within less than 5 minutes, I'd deleted it off my machine. I couldn't believe how crappy the game was, compared to today's standards.
    Yeah, I know it was only loaded into 48k, but I guess my memories had upgraded themselves and given the game better sound and graphics.
    Some things should stay in the past I guess. Don't get me wrong, it was great to see the game again. It just seems to have lost a bit of its magic, when played back-to-back with, say, Tony Hawks.
    ...whereas Combat, that game is just classic. I think the whole appeal is the multiplayer aspect. Who cares about graphics, when you're head-to-head with the scores flashing and you need one more kill, on invisible tank pong!

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  77. Lynx games & resources by er0ck · · Score: 1

    As a Lynx owner myself, I can reccomend The GOAT (Games Of All Types) Store. Decent prices and an OK selection, and customer service is great; they sent me a second free game because I screwed up my address on the order form the first time. And, they ship internationally.

    Thanks to them, I added Rampart and KLAX to my collection; both of which are great games.

    If you don't have it already, Stun Runner is also good for replay value.

    But stay away from Hydra and Batman Returns; big stinkers there.

    You might also try GameDude; you can buy & sell cartridges from old systems through them, and they're in California, so shipping to BC should be fairly quick. Haven't done business with them in a while, but they were easy to deal with.

    As a final note, you can try out games on the Lynx Emulator before you buy them.
    Best of luck to you!

    1. Re:Lynx games & resources by rjamestaylor · · Score: 2, Funny
      • As a Lynx owner myself, I can reccomend The GOAT (Games Of All Types) Store [goatstore.com].
      The only way I'd touch a link to "Goatstore" on Slashdot would be with lynx from the command line...
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    2. Re:Lynx games & resources by red5 · · Score: 2

      As a Lynx owner myself, I can reccomend The GOAT (Games Of All Types) Store [goatstore.com]. Decent prices and an OK selection, and customer service is great; they sent me a second free game because I screwed up my address on the order form the first time. And, they ship internationally

      Thanks I'll check them out.

      But stay away from Hydra and Batman Returns; big stinkers there

      Too late. But thanks anyhow.

      You might also try GameDude [gamedude.com]; you can buy & sell cartridges from old systems through them, and they're in California, so shipping to BC should be fairly quick. Haven't done business with them in a while, but they were easy to deal with.

      I used to go there it's like an hours drive from where I live and I don't drive.

      Thanks for all the links

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    3. Re:Lynx games & resources by er0ck · · Score: 1

      Can't mod you up so I'll just give you a "hee hee!".

  78. A C64 Version would be cool by Te1waz · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I don't suppose this will see the shores of Europe any time soon. We're still waiting the SL-5500 (I'm glad I got mine while over on business).

    A C64 version would be cool though, it'd actually be an improvement over the original as we wouldn't have to wait for the loading time (unless we want to lisiten to the often groovy loading music (Ocean) or pretend we're being interrogated by watching a Mutant Camels loader.

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  79. I've already seen this on the market by enrico_suave · · Score: 2

    I've seen this about 6 months ago at a BJ's warehouse in CT (USA).

    *shrug*

    e.

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  80. I remember seeing an NES one. by NiGHTSFTP · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You know, there is a "portable NES" that hooks up to your TV. It looks like a controller.

    Difference: 100 some odd more games.

    It is also ~$60 or something like that.

    I saw it on QVC a few months ago, and it may have been on HSN. I wonder how easy it would be to turn one into a portable. (since its in seeming wide availability, and is small...)

    Oh, back on topic, Pic of the "portable" atari: http://www.qvc.com/img/E/41/E29241.jpg

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  81. Re:this would make the teenager I used to be drool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    but guys would *love* to get into you!

  82. Trademark City by christurkel · · Score: 2, Funny

    There are enough trademarks in that story to gag the most jaded lawyer!

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  83. Re:this would make the teenager I used to be drool by hanakj · · Score: 0

    .....but Rebecca De Mornay still looks good!

  84. Re:Your attitude sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.informationweek.com/story/IWK20020514S0 004

    But, But, IBM Spent a Billion Dollars on Linux! Why aren't they making money?!

  85. Re:Your attitude sucks by HerringFlavoredFowl · · Score: 2

    >It's piratanical trolls like you that killed Atari the first time!

    ??? so my debate on buying the product or investing in the company is evil because I pay for software and invest in that software model, maybe you should re-read what I stated.

    Atari is getting royalties of of this, and it was the attempt to live off of the 2600 and not investing in new console technology that killed them the first time ...

    btw. at $20 I will be buying one ... as for stock, I do feel this could be a sleeper, but need to research it first.

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  86. This will probably be low quality by NoahsMyBro · · Score: 1

    This product is likely to be low quality & buggy, and only serve to further sully the Atari brand image.

    The similar product that came out a year or two ago with the Activision games, was crap. The games were not the original ROMs. They had differences, some so bad the games were rendered nearly unplayable.

    A few examples: The game Atlantis, originally an Imagic game, had the Imagic name removed from the screen and replaced with the Activision branding. More importantly, you could no longer see your shots on the screen, so it was much harder to aim.

    Pitfall had screwed up graphics as well. There were other problems with graphics AND with playability, but I can't recall the specifics.

    I don't know why it was necessary to change the ROMs, but the result smacked of low Asian pirate outfit quality. Until actually seeing & using one I planned on getting it, as it was easily worth the $15 retail. After using it I determined it wasn't worth the space it would take up on the shelf. It was lousy.

    I expect the same from this new Infogrames product.

  87. Finding Atari Joysticks by Argyle · · Score: 2

    The offical model number for the joysticks is CX40.

    You can ususally track them down on eBay or via google.

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  88. why not 5200? by whovian · · Score: 1

    I would really like to see a 5200 version. The graphics of the 2600 pale in comparison to those of the 5200. With the 5200, you routinely would get real arcade level graphics.

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    1. Re:why not 5200? by Bill+Kendrick · · Score: 2

      The 5200 was just an 800 whose memory map got stuck in a blender, the OS yanked, and the controller turned into an easily broken analog piece of crap. :) There were also not very many games.

      I'd like to see an 800/XL/XE portable. :)

      Atari800 on my Zaurus will suffice for now. ;)

      (Ooh, or maybe a 7800!)

  89. Toymax 10 in 1 TV Games by peel · · Score: 1

    Toymax has a similar item already on and off the market. Their version plays 10 activision games like pitfall, river raid, boxing, ice hokey and more. I got mine on ebay for 6 bucks. Search for 10 in 1 games and it should come up. I have one and it is fun but it's hardly a true portable and no 2 player action makes the replay value very low. -peel

  90. I bought several in Taiwan by John+Harrison · · Score: 2
    At the Taipei night market these things are all over. I bought one for $20. You can get a single controller with about 80 games in it for about $5. The contoller has a cartridge slot on the bottom so you can plug in additional cartridges. Did I mention that it is an NES and not a 2600? Well, neither did you.


    I bought a bunch back to the states for Christmas. It was a VERY cheap way to entertain my entire family. My mom has become a Tetris freak, challenging all comers to head to head matches.

  91. i am in absolute pleasure by atari2600 · · Score: 1

    Need i say anything more :). Atari2600
    w00h00 *does a jig* Yipeee baby!!!!!!! Hooraah!!! yeahhhhhhhhoooooooo!!! :)

  92. You can buy a similar Activision device right now by joeflies · · Score: 1

    At Toys R Us, they have an activision 2600 games device which plays something like 10 different games. It's shaped like a controller that plugs directly into the RCA jacks of the tv, so it's portable in the sense that don't actually carry a console around to play.

  93. Already have the 10-in-1 with Activision games by mookoz · · Score: 1

    http://www.toymax.com/ToyCentral/EL/10in1.htm

    Picked this up at K-Mart about 2 months ago. Nice idea, the controller sucks though. I like the idea of using a controller that's more like the old 2600 joystick.

  94. Combat... by dR.fuZZo · · Score: 2

    This sounds sort of neat, except that Combat won't be nearly as cool if it's single-player only.

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  95. They have similar things in the UK.... by Retron · · Score: 1

    Usually to be found 'cheapjack' shops, such as Poundstretcher. They usually cost less than £20 and include 20 to 100 games - they're probably illegal, but they're so cheap no-one cares.

  96. No cartridge slot? by richlb · · Score: 1

    If they built a cartridge slot in so I could play other games, I'd be all over it. Until then, I'll continue to wait for Ben's portable 2600.

  97. A Place to buy new 2600 Joysticks! by Yoda2 · · Score: 2

    You can buy new 2600 joysticks (and a bunch of other great stuff) here. I bought two and have been very happy with them.

  98. Not a new product? by badasscat · · Score: 1

    Activision has been marketing this exact same idea for a while now - including 10 of their own Atari 2600 games as well as a few Imagic titles (some of the best available for the system). The titles in the Activision version are Pitfall, Atlantis, River Raid, Spider Fighter, Crackpots, Freeway, Tennis, Boxing, Ice Hockey, and Grand Prix. It looks like Infogrames may have just taken the idea and applied it to Atari first-party titles.

    I can't find the Activision product at any online retailers I know of anymore, but there are plenty of Ebay auctions going on for it right now (just search for Atari 10-in-1).

  99. Genesis pads work in VCS by yerricde · · Score: 2

    Both joysticks for my 2600 are pretty much dead

    Joypads designed for the Sega Genesis console will work in an Atari 2600 console.

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    1. Re:Genesis pads work in VCS by Bill+Kendrick · · Score: 2

      Joypads designed for the Sega Genesis console will work in an Atari 2600 console.

      A few years ago I wrote a game for the Atari 8-bit computer (400/800/XL/XE) which can take advantage of the two buttons the Atari can easily read off a Genesis controller.

      I actually ported it to Linux/Windows. :)

  100. burnin karma to post moderation of last comment by phunhippy · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    on my post...

    Moderation Totals: Offtopic=1, Flamebait=1, Redundant=1, Funny=3, Overrated=1, Total=7.

  101. Why is this being covered? by British · · Score: 2

    I don't get why this is newsworthy when "x games in a controller" have been out for a while, and the price cut with the PS2 and Xbox doesn't get a story. Yay!

  102. Re:this would make the teenager I used to be drool by cydnub · · Score: 1

    Actually a 81 928 in good shape goes for about $10K or so, or about 1/6 the original price, even without water damage.

  103. Adventure? by DrCode · · Score: 2

    Must be a different game than the one I'm thinking with. It'd be difficult to type 'xyzzy' with just a joystick.

    1. Re:Adventure? by Bill+Kendrick · · Score: 2

      Adventure for the 2600 was the first game with an easter egg. It was also based on the text-based Adventure game, but turned graphical (if you could call those graphics).

      It's also still one of my all-time favorite games on the 2600. The bat just PISSES me off in games 2 and 3. :)

      One of these days I'm going to make a proper Adventure update/clone for Linux/Windows/MacOS.
      (Thank you, Sam Lantinga!)

  104. I like this unofficial Atari portable... by koganuts · · Score: 1

    Right... here. A bit bulkier than a GameBoy Advance, but imagine the looks you could get at next week's E3 convention!!!

  105. Amiga was really an Atari by Bill+Kendrick · · Score: 2

    I'm a huge Atari fan (own a 2600, 2600 Jr, two Jaguars, two Lynxes, a 1200XL, an 800XL and an 800), but honestly, I never liked the ST.

    The Amiga was MUCH more impressive to me. I still want to get a 500 or 1000 one of these days.

    One of the things not many people know is that the Amiga was actually designed by a lot of the same people who designed the 2600 and/or 400/800, and some of whom went on to design the Lynx.

    They share a lot of the same nifty architecture. (Atari 800's "Display List Interrupt" was just the early version of Amiga's "Copper"... and the Atari Lynx has the same feature, though I don't know if it has a specific name)

    Atari ST was pretty much Tramiel's idea which he brought over when he moved from Commodore to Atari.

    Weird, no?

    1. Re:Amiga was really an Atari by Skuld-Chan · · Score: 2

      The Amiga was MUCH more impressive to me. I still want to get a 500 or 1000 one of these days.


      write me man - I can help you there.

    2. Re:Amiga was really an Atari by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Lynx was developed by ex-Amiga guys. RJ Mical and someone else????

      The chipset of the Atari 800 was partially developed by the same man who developed the chipset of the Amiga... Jay Miner. Sadly, he passed away in `94, but I met him once and used to log into his BBS system in California. Super nice guy!

      Scottgfx
      (at work and don't remember my pswd)

  106. New Atari by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Imagine a Beowolf Cluster of THESE!!!

  107. So, obvious hacking question... by Thedalek · · Score: 1

    Why hasn't someone taken one of these things (as there seems to be a myriad of different ones ranging from the NES to the 2600) and figured out how the games are stored? Then instead of companies releasing an "every game ever" console, which they would never have the rights to do, you could hack it into one yourself. 'Course, you'd have to buy enough flash ram to hold all of them. Not difficult with the Atari 2600, but the NES has something over a gig worth of games, uncompressed.

    Now another question: Most of the NES versions of these devices feature obscure unlicenced NES games, like Tekken. (Tekken on the NES? You can bet that it's not Namco-approved.) Does this mean that these semi-portable NES's support -all- mappers? The pirate games almost always used proprietary mappers. For the uninitiated, mappers were custom chips used in the NES cartridges themselves. Most current emulators of the NES don't support all mappers, and so several games just plain don't work.

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  108. just 10?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This kinda sucks, even for 2600 fans - just 10 games??? Aren't these games like 10k each or something 'wow' like that??

    If this thing had every game, or, at least, every game that Atari put out, that might be something...if it had a built in modem and allowed multiplayer the way that SNES9x does, etc., then that might be something...but this?

    Nah...

    1. Re:just 10?? by david+duncan+scott · · Score: 2

      Ten K!? Son, back in the day we worked in 4K (and the poor sods at Atari did the early games in 2K). The 128 bytes of RAM made things interesting too.

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  109. Re:The point being? by funbobby · · Score: 1

    Another reason you might want to play these games is that they really are a lot of fun.
    On an Atari 2600 they couldn't cover up a bad game with fancy graphics or 500 levels. The game itself HAD to be fun, because there wasn't anything else there.

  110. Hackable by bdevlin · · Score: 1

    I hope it's hackable. 10 games just isn't enough.

  111. A history of Infogrames, taken from their site by torklugnutz · · Score: 1

    (abridged, taken from http://www.infogrames.com/corp_history.php)

    1988 - Releases SimCity (distributor)

    1992 - Releases Alone in the Dark

    1999 - It is announced in November that Infogrames is to acquire the North American video game publisher GT Interactive. This move is significant in that it gives Infogrames a massive inroad into the North American market as well as a catalogue of titles including the infamous Driver and Unreal franchises.

    1999 - In the closing days of 2000, Infogrames announces it is to acquire Hasbro (Interactive)and along with it, the properties of Microprose and Atari. Microprose has a long line of impressive titles, specifically on the PC and also the Atari name and properties of Atari including classics like Centipede, Missile Command and Pong.

    So, based on the sucess of their other ventures, why would they bother making such a dumb little swap-meet item? I wish them luck, but I don't see this unit selling all that well, except at the $.99 store.

    Also, a bit of trivia for you. Do you remember the Nintendo Virtual Boy? This system was actually concieved by Hasbro and sold to Nintendo.

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  112. How to play downloaded ROMs on actual 2600 system? by ssummer · · Score: 1

    Is there any hardware out there that allows this?

  113. God Bless This Price War!!! by donnacha · · Score: 1

    $20?

    Well, at the current level of cut-throat competition, I expect to see Sony, MS and Nintendo match that price by the end of the month.

  114. No here is what **REALLY** happened by nurb432 · · Score: 1

    1 - Sam Gave Control of Atari to his sons...
    2 - Sons are idiots.. killed company..
    3 - the rest is close enough to what you had..

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  115. Id rather see the ST series revived and moderized by nurb432 · · Score: 1

    They were the best of their breed, until lack of markting abilty destroyed them.

    Would love to see TOS/Gem updated and on current level of hardware ( PowerPC, etc ).

    ( at the same sort of price/power points they had back then.. not some super expensive 'memory lane' machine...

    Oh and 'Amiga was better' flames -> /dev/null :P

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  116. Epyx 500xj by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The 500xj for the Nintendo really sucked, though. It worked great until the start, select, and autofire buttons gave out. These buttons were obviously an afterthought--they were literally stuck onto the surface with adhesive.

  117. Re:How to play downloaded ROMs on actual 2600 syst by david+duncan+scott · · Score: 2
    Well, I know a guy who built a card that rode inside an Apple II, with a ribbon cable and stub card-edge connector. The cart images lived on a floppy and were loaded into the RAM on the card, then a soft toggle switch (a write to $C000 or somesuch -- it's been quite a while) allowed the Atari to see the RAM as its own ROM. We used them for development, but we also surveyed the competition's work.

    Of course, youi'd have to have a II+ kicking around...

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  118. (OT)Gemdrop == Magical Drop? by yerricde · · Score: 1

    Is that Gemdrop game anything like Magical Drop for Neo-Geo?

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  119. Re:A C64 Version would be cool by WWWWolf · · Score: 2, Informative

    Hey, that one was made ages ago: Commodore Executive 64 (SX64/DX64). =)

    (Though neither had Datassette port, and I'm not sure about cartridge support - but on C64, floppy loading times were never Utterly Horrible (especially with disk turbo), even if they're slow by today's standards...)

    (Oh, and getting a SX64/DX64 is a bit hard. An used laptop, a Linux install and VICE would probably be cheaper =)

  120. Re:Linux attracts both praise and criticism in maj by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What the fuck are you talking about?

  121. plethora!!! by PsychoElf · · Score: 1

    Jefe: We have stuffed many pinatas for your birthday celebration!
    El Guapo: How many pinatas?
    Jefe: Many pinatas, many!
    El Guapo: Jefe, would you say I have a plethora of pinatas?
    Jefe: Yes, El Guapo. You have a plethora.
    El Guapo: Jefe, what is a plethora?

    The Three Amigos

  122. This sucks, basically. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I heard about this news on Jaguar Interactive several days ago, and I am truly saddened by this.

    I already have the video games on this "new Atari system" on my original 2600 system! Why would I want to buy a "new Atari" video gaming system when I can just get the games from my bookcase and dust off my original 2600?

    Infogrames are not doing anything to actively resurrect the Atari name as they constantly say that they are doing. Let's see what they have released so far...

    -Atari Water Bottles during (I think...) the 2001 E3 show.
    -Atari Anniversary Edition on Dreamcast and PC (released on Atari's 29th Anniversary?)
    -Three or four Infogrames titles for XBox with the Atari Logo slapped all over it
    -This little Atari 2600 thing

    To whom is Infogrames trying to sell Atari products to? Classic gaming fans can get these games on Emulators or play them on their own 2600s. New gamers would not pay money to play 20 year old games on their TV sets. Infogrames is basically doing this to call attention to itself as the current owner of Atari- and they want to make a quick buck off the games that started it all. It drives me to the point of nausea to see Atari being whored around like this. :(

    Infogrames is not Atari and will never be Atari. THey should just sell the Atari rights and properties to a company that can actually do something constructive with the name- not just trot out 30 year old remakes.

    But that's just my opinion.

  123. Re:How to play downloaded ROMs on actual 2600 syst by ssummer · · Score: 1

    It was (is) a rather common commercial product for a lot of the other cartridge based systems, it's a wonder the 2600 got skipped over...

  124. Re:How to play downloaded ROMs on actual 2600 syst by david+duncan+scott · · Score: 2
    Actually, there was an acoustic device, the name of which escapes me. The Something Charger, maybe?

    It was going to be the Next Big Thing, downloading games over the phone into your Atari. It ended up being a niche product for fanatics.

    We were developing, so the Apple was our host platform. Assemble the code into that stretch of RAM, flip the soft switch, and watch it fly -- or crash. The audio part would have been painful.

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