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Milestones in the Annals of Junkmail

fdc writes: "Web pages are a great source of postal addresses for direct mailers. Judging by some of the addresses we've seen recently, it's evident that the data is harvested not by humans, but by computer programs that scan web pages for names and addresses. Several weeks ago we (the Kermit Project at Columbia University) announced a new release of our Kermit 95 communication software for Windows -- SSH, secure FTP, etc; cousin of C-Kermit for Unix (search Freshmeat). Since this was a major release, we chose a new icon for it: the Columbia crown. A web page explained that this is the emblem of Columbia University: the crown of King George the II of England (1727-1760), who founded Columbia in 1754. JUST ONE WEEK LATER guess who received a postcard from Dell."

227 comments

  1. first post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    bitches

    1. Re:first post by acceleriter · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Get your hands off my first post, you damn dirty AC!

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  2. First! by acceleriter · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    First! First! Yay!

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  3. Honky Tonk Women by The+Lyrics+Guy · · Score: -1

    The Rolling Stones - Honky Tonk Women

    I met a gin soaked, bar-room queen in Memphis,
    She tried to take me upstairs for a ride.
    She had to heave me right across her shoulder
    'Cause I just can't seem to drink you off my mind.

    It's the honky tonk women
    Gimme, gimme, gimme the honky tonk blues.

    I laid a divorcee in New York City,
    I had to put up some kind of a fight.
    The lady then she covered me with roses,
    She blew my nose and then she blew my mind.

    It's the honky tonk women
    Gimme, gimme, gimme the honky tonk blues.

    (Yeah!) It's the honky tonk women.
    Gimme, gimme, gimme the honky tonk blues.

    (Yeah!) It's the honky tonk women.
    Gimme, gimme, gimme the honky tonk blues.

  4. Answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Who? Tell me... tell me...

  5. whew by r00tarded · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    so my cat fluffy *didnt* order those dells. whew!

    1. Re:whew by dknj · · Score: 1

      Lets see, a poster copies a website word for word and they get a front page post. I copy a review word for word and get modded down.

      -dk

    2. Re:whew by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      well, the poster's homepage is columbia, so i imagine he's affiliated with that site.

  6. Your Highness, you're gettin' a Dell! by acceleriter · · Score: 1

    just doesn't have the same ring to it.

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    1. Re:Your Highness, you're gettin' a Dell! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Highness? Dell? Steve!

  7. Dude... by InterruptDescriptorT · · Score: 5, Funny

    Thou art getting a Dell!

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    1. Re:Dude... by FueledByRamen · · Score: 2, Funny

      A DELL?!?! Thou shalt be drawn and quartered for thine suggestion of a DELL!

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    2. Re:Dude... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      http://hellosaidthechickenmonkeysaidthecowmoosaidt heoinkandweesatt>idthefee/waltzing/Gwen/Mezzrow/an alfishmonkeycowshitdonkeydoo/fetalmonkeypenisanusd ogshit/unclesammotherfucker/cowpissedandateshitnig gajew/kike/hoeslutcockprostitutejesusraper/manyanu sflyaroundhere/ fish.com

    3. Re:Dude... by ranulf · · Score: 1
      Thou art getting a Dell!

      Oooh! Really?

      I always wanted little shaded area of grass all to myself.

  8. So, ... by ImaLamer · · Score: 1

    Was this about Kermit or Junkmail?

    1. Re:So, ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...Yes, it was!

      --orangesquid

    2. Re:So, ... by packeteer · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      i eat glass and it doesn't hurt me...

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    3. Re:So, ... by funky+womble · · Score: 1

      yes, this is a very original way to have details of your new release posted on /. (:

    4. Re:So, ... by packeteer · · Score: 1

      obviosuly you dont get it... if you go to the kermit creator there is another project on there about saying "i eat glass and it doesn't hurt me" in many languadges

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  9. new techinques by SonicTooth · · Score: 1

    maybe now people will instead of type their address write it in ascii code or something like somebody(at)something.com instead of somebody@something.com to fool the bots.

    1. Re:new techinques by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was about spiders looking for not only emails, also address information, and the example was that of kermit a program that had just been released with these cool features, and how Dell was able to get its address information.

    2. Re:new techinques by scott1853 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It would be very easy to interpret such simple encoding with a bot. I would think that such bots already exist that filter not only that but removing NOSPAM from e-mail addresses which seems to be another popular attempt at keeping a public e-mail address semi-private.

    3. Re:new techinques by Kickstart70 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Oh geez...the owner of somebody@something.com is gonna be pissed!

      Kickstart

    4. Re:new techinques by GigsVT · · Score: 2, Informative

      I think it's the owner of someone (at) somewhere.com posts to bugtraq.

      example.com
      example.net
      example.org

      Are the RFC 2606 eserved domains you should use in examples, such as the parent post.

      Also reserved are the TLDs: .test .example .invalid .localhost

      I don't know if it's been updated since, but they don't mention the common "localhost.localdomain" that I see a lot. I guess it really doesn't matter too much, except for trash traffic to the root name servers if someone messes it up.

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    5. Re:new techinques by GigsVT · · Score: 1

      Note to self: Always remember to close HREF tags.

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    6. Re:new techinques by fdc · · Score: 2, Informative

      No, the point was that postal addresses (not email) addresses were being picked up, and in a fairly sophisticated manner. I believe the Web page in question is http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html which contains our postal address (near the bottom) and also mentions King George II (near the top). The address harvester recognized the postal address (no big accomplishment) but also picked out "King George II" as a name. Which I suppose it could be!

    7. Re:new techinques by binner1 · · Score: 1

      My personal favourite: drunk@home.always

      -Ben

    8. Re:new techinques by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Check: http://www.alistapart.com/stories/spam/

      I'm sure this has been covered at sometime, but (I missed it!) how exactly does the spam industry work?

      Who would pay to have their product spammed at a zillion people most of which are probably on the other side of the planet?

      And also who'd buy anything off of a spammer?

      So why - that's all I wanna know!!!

    9. Re:new techinques by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Further to previous, has anyone ever met anyone who said they "worked in the spamming" industry?

      Or has anyone ever printed business cards or designed a web site or whatever, for a company that deals in email addresses, lovingly harvested from the web?!

    10. Re:new techinques by maxwells_deamon · · Score: 1

      my real email address is

      myname@jacobs.coxatwork.com

      Where myname is my last name followed by my initials.

      Thus myname@jacobs.cox@work.com is bogus.

    11. Re:new techinques by hazyshadeofwinter · · Score: 1

      Indeed, there is somebody on Usenet whose real email is something like nospam@foobar.net, and he/she claims to almost never get spam there...

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    12. Re:new techinques by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same with the owner of fuck@off.com lol

    13. Re:new techinques by RobinH · · Score: 2

      I would think that such bots already exist that filter not only that but removing NOSPAM from e-mail addresses

      That's why my next email address will actually be something like "myname.NOSPAM@whatever.com". Somehow we must continue to prove that we're smarter than the machines! ha ha

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    14. Re:new techinques by colmore · · Score: 2

      I usually tell all those sites to send to joe@aol.com

      I wonder who that poor sucker is.

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    15. Re:new techinques by Jay+L · · Score: 2

      I usually tell all those sites to send to joe@aol.com. I wonder who that poor sucker is

      It's self-centered assholes like you that forced me to stop using jay@aol.com after nine years. My misdirected mailing list subscriptions were far more problematic than my spam load. You don't want to get e-mail, so you send it to someone else instead? Do you also dump your trash on your neighbor's lawn?

      If you don't want to get spammed by e-commerce sites and the like, use "me@privacy.net". That sends an auto-response for every e-mail, telling the merchant that they should ask permission before assuming you want to be added to a mailing list. If the site tells you that is already used, try adding a single digit, e.g. me3@privacy.net.

    16. Re:new techinques by colmore · · Score: 2

      I was kidding, I usually give something@localhost.localdomain

      I also wonder what the data suggesting I am a 95 year old female government employee making less than $25,000 a year goes to.

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    17. Re:new techinques by DavidTC · · Score: 1
      You do realize it's a billion times more likely you're simply the victim of a dictionary attack, right? I get mail to david@domain.dom, and I'm certain that no one is handing out my domain as their email address. And running the mail server, I see tons of [first name]@domain.dom. Either my little domain is orders of magnitudes more popular than I think, or they're just finding *@domain.dom and dictionary attacking it.

      Trying [firstnamee]@aol.com is a sure way to actually reach somebody.

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    18. Re:new techinques by Jay+L · · Score: 2

      Yes, I was also occasionally the victim of a dictionary attack, as well as plain old address harvesting, but much more common was someone else named Jay (or someone whose initials were J) entering "jay@aol.com" as his e-mail address when signing up for a web site. It was very clear when the latter occurred - it was usually a legitimate mailing list that simply didn't use verified opt-in, or an e-commerce site that automatically added customers to their "hot products" newsletter.

      Oddly, another common source of mail was an AOL member named Jay typing "Jay" into the CC field. This was less of a problem after the field label was changed from "CC to "Copy To" a few versions ago. It seems that, in the post-carbon-paper era, people don't always know what "CC" stands for. The first box is "To", so the second one must mean "From"!

    19. Re:new techinques by antispam_ben · · Score: 1

      I post to Usenet with [firstname]_nospam_[lastname]@myisp.com. I created that address as an email alias, and also created the following aliases as well:
      [firstname]__[lastname]@myisp.com (two underscores)
      [firstname]_[lastname]@myisp.com (one underscore)
      The two-underscore address was NEVER posted or used anywhere, yet I've received spam to ALL THREE of the above addresses, though few compared to my main account. So yes, it appears many harvesting bots either demung or don't use addresses with "nospam" in them, but some spammers just spew to whatever addresses they harvest.

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  10. Your wide page for the day! by Klerck · · Score: -1
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  11. shortish term fix by inputsprocket · · Score: 0

    encoding email addresses using web character stnds would fight them off for a while....

  12. Hey it's Obligatory! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Forsooth Royal Dude, you're getting a ye olde Dell!

  13. I hear that 31337 isn't a real zipcode by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    But that's what I always write when asked. Poor dudes at the postal services.

    1. Re:I hear that 31337 isn't a real zipcode by uberred · · Score: 1

      ha. Good idea. I usually use 99999 myself. :)

      --
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    2. Re:I hear that 31337 isn't a real zipcode by morgajel · · Score: 1

      I've always preferred 90210.
      then they think I'm some rich snobby kid with social problems and no personality.

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    3. Re:I hear that 31337 isn't a real zipcode by lukegalea1234 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I live in canada so 90210 was the only real postal code I know.. I use it whenever I go to a non canada friendly site.

    4. Re:I hear that 31337 isn't a real zipcode by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In some US shopping malls they ask for your zip code when making a purchase (not sure why). As I'm from the UK I just make one up ... but I don't stop at five digits ... I just keep going and going. Usually the person in the store will just keep typing them (I think my British accent disables their normal common sense). The record so far is 19 digits before one person realized that I was taking him for a ride.

    5. Re:I hear that 31337 isn't a real zipcode by wesmills · · Score: 2
      I've always used 23280, the zip code Time-Life gives out on their vast multitude of CD, casette and video commercials.

      23280 is associated with the following:

      TIME-LIFE CUSTOMER SERVICE VA
      NOT ACCEPTABLE-USE RICHMOND

  14. Advances in Artificial Intelligence by SpatchMonkey · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You should be glad that AI has come this far. For an intelligent agent to be able to harvest addresses by clicking through web pages, and then mailing out postcards is truly an advancement of the technology.

    Remember, there are good points to everything, even things like this which under normal circumstances could be described as "alienating our rights."

  15. Looks like a prank by someone at Dell by Gorobei · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There are no clear King George + address on the web-page. This just looks like a prank database addition by someone at Dell on a slow day (probably a Kermit user, tho.)

    1. Re:Looks like a prank by someone at Dell by howardjp · · Score: 1

      I noticed this too, I highly doubt a bot did this. In fact, on that page, King George is not refered to as King George, but rather as "George, King of England." The card was addressed to "King George II." This is a bit much for even the most intelligent bot.

    2. Re:Looks like a prank by someone at Dell by banky · · Score: 5, Informative

      actually the address is on
      http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html
      most of the way down, under the "buy now" stuff

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    3. Re:Looks like a prank by someone at Dell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      it could be like the address on this site here

    4. Re:Looks like a prank by someone at Dell by superkri · · Score: 1

      Take a look at http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/vendor.html where you can find the phrase: "Founded: 1754 by King George II of England" At the top of the same page the rest of the address is written.

    5. Re:Looks like a prank by someone at Dell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No its not. There is only an oem.sales e-mail address when checking the source.

    6. Re:Looks like a prank by someone at Dell by fdc · · Score: 1

      Actually that's what is so devious about it. I thought there was but on second glance, the "King George II" reference comes from separate pages on the same site, most likely this one.

    7. Re:Looks like a prank by someone at Dell by Mike+Schiraldi · · Score: 5, Informative

      In fact, on that page, King George is not refered to as King George, but rather as "George, King of England."

      Actually, it said, "George II, King of England". The harvester program ignored the "of England" part, and decided that "George II, King" looked a lot like "Smith, John". Just like it turns that into "John Smith", it got "King George II"

    8. Re:Looks like a prank by someone at Dell by mbyte · · Score: 2

      hmm, have to disagree. I think the spambot looks for common firstnames, and only found:

      img alt="The Crown of King George II" align="left" src="crownico.gif"

      a bit of parse logic would get rid of that Crown of stuff, so the name is there, it matches a dictonary word, as the adress has no dicionary name in it !

      so i think its possible that it was a real spambot :)

    9. Re:Looks like a prank by someone at Dell by howardjp · · Score: 1

      Excellent point. I stand corrected.

    10. Re:Looks like a prank by someone at Dell by artemis67 · · Score: 1

      actually the address is on
      http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html
      most of the way down, under the "buy now" stuff


      I still don't believe it. The name "King George" isn't anywhere on that page. It would take some human intelligence to associate the name from a different page with the address.

      It's a gag by a bored keyboardist. Move along, folks, there's nothing to see here....

    11. Re:Looks like a prank by someone at Dell by BLiP2 · · Score: 1

      Problem is, the 4 digit zip extension on the page mentioned above and on the scanned postcard are different.
      It is still possible that the computer generated it's own zipcode from the address, as everything else is the same. The four digit extension doesn't appear to be that critical to mail delivery for Columbia zipcodes anyway. It's all done internally, and mail (for students anyway) just disappears into a mysterious glass box for several weeks before being packaged in garbage bags and expelled.

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    12. Re:Looks like a prank by someone at Dell by sconeu · · Score: 2

      The name "King George" isn't anywhere on that page.

      It's in the ALT text for the crown logo.

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    13. Re:Looks like a prank by someone at Dell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      King Edward (any of them) will probably be next then...

      Software Paradise
      Avenue House
      King Edward Avenue
      Caerphilly CF83 1HE
      UNITED KINGDOM

      is on the page.

    14. Re:Looks like a prank by someone at Dell by Ralph+Wiggam · · Score: 1

      We use a program at work where you pass it street address, city, and state, and it will return 5+4 ZIP and timezone. People write in Zip codes wrong all the time, but rarely make a mistake on city or state. I would bet that this kind of software is very common.

    15. Re:Looks like a prank by someone at Dell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you do not stand corrected in your logic.

      There is no way that a program scanned that web page and came up with
      King George II
      Kermit Project ... address blah blah blah ...

      as the first two lines - from that web page. I'm sure that any and everyone who believes that this, in fact, did happen, does not know very much about computer programming.

      sorry guys, you lose, do not pass go, do not collect $200.

      It probably wasn't anyone at Dell, it was probably someone involved at the project that submitted King George's name to Dell that got him on the mailing list.

      sorry punks. another example of a bullshit slashdot story and dumbass slashdot readers who believe it.

  16. Ask Dell about it... by FurryFeet · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Really, contact Dell and ask for an explanation. I think we'd all love to hear what kind of lame excuse they try to come up with in order to avoid admitting that they harvest spammable addreses from the net :)

    1. Re:Ask Dell about it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      It may require a bit of looking around. I used to work for the company that actually ran Dellhost...not just the servers, but also the technical support side. At that time (2001) The only relationship between Dell and Dellhost is the name and the fact that they actually used Dell servers (or so they claimed.) Otherwise, Dellhost is run by a completely different operation (and not a very good one either, but i may have a bit of angst against a former employer. :-)

    2. Re:Ask Dell about it... by ocbwilg · · Score: 2

      It may require a bit of looking around. I used to work for the company that actually ran Dellhost...not just the servers, but also the technical support side. At that time (2001) The only relationship between Dell and Dellhost is the name and the fact that they actually used Dell servers (or so they claimed.) Otherwise, Dellhost is run by a completely different operation (and not a very good one either, but i may have a bit of angst against a former employer. :-)

      Yes, they did actually use Dell servers. I also worked for Interliant briefly, but not in the DellHost division (though I did support the DellHost teams). And you're right, it wasn't all that great of a company to work for. The pay was above average at first, but then the organization took a serious downhill slide and starting laying off most of the employees that they had acquired in mergers. Fortunately I got out before they popped. It wouldn't suprise me that they tried to solicit business from King George II.

    3. Re:Ask Dell about it... by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      Huh, if they want to sell some Dells, they should be trying to contact King George III.

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    4. Re:Ask Dell about it... by JimBobJoe · · Score: 1


      thanks for the info...drop me a line if on it if you don't mind. my stay there wasn't long enough to see the collapse. :-)

  17. old-school bbs by tokachu.a · · Score: 0

    There's not many old-school BBS's left on the Internet...I'm surprised that the US government is running one. And as for the address extraction, did you put it in an tag? Even if not, it's possible that the address was already on a mailing list. Did that department ever buy a Dell? The people working on Kermit must not be too rash as to jump to conclusions on how they got that junk mail. For all we know, the guys who made HyperTerminal put them on the list.

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  18. Nope... that would be "Your Majesty". by TDScott · · Score: 4, Informative
    "Your Highness" denotes royalty other than a King or Queen. "Your Majesty" denotes a King or a Queen. (Source)

    Just nitpicking...

    1. Re:Nope... that would be "Your Majesty". by acceleriter · · Score: 1

      Fair enough-I learned something today! I assume the sovreign wouldn't be addressed as "thou," either, since that's the familiar?

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    2. Re:Nope... that would be "Your Majesty". by cyberformer · · Score: 2

      For non-monarchs, it's usually "Your Royal Highness", just to nitpick further. Hence the title HRH (His/Her Royal Highness).

    3. Re:Nope... that would be "Your Majesty". by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your Majesty = the reigning monarch
      Your Royal Highness = the heir to the throne + his/her husband/wife
      Your Highness = A prince or princess
      Your Grace = a duke (usually a cousin/nephew/uncle etc of the monarch)

      And a whole lot more...

    4. Re:Nope... that would be "Your Majesty". by FriendOfMarky · · Score: 1

      That's okay... I referred to our bishop in the third person as "His Grace" and nobody knew who I was talking about :/

      This whole thing is pretty damn funny tho. His Late Highness will probably get mail there for the next five years.

    5. Re:Nope... that would be "Your Majesty". by CountBrass · · Score: 1

      Actually to be a bit more nit picky, it depends on when you are talking about. Henry VIII for example, was neither Your Highness nor Your Majesty but Your Grace. Sycophants invented Your Highness and Your Majesty later.

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    6. Re:Nope... that would be "Your Majesty". by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funnily enough alot of us in England refer to the Queen as "That stupid bitch".

    7. Re:Nope... that would be "Your Majesty". by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good for you. Personally, as an American, it makes my skin crawl to hear another American address anyone as "your majesty", "your highness", etc. Didn't we have a revolution to get rid of that crap?

      It's bad enough that we're (still) supposed to address judges as "your honor" (not to mention those silly robes). And with their contempt powers, you can't safely defy that... but I digress.

      I don't have a problem with Queen Elizabeth as a person, but if I ever meet her, the highest form of address I'm willing to give her is "ma'am" -- same as I would anyone else.

    8. Re:Nope... that would be "Your Majesty". by kiwimate · · Score: 1

      Just curious, but how would you prefer a foreigner address the U.S. president? "Sir"?

      Which is an aside to my actual point. Which, roughly stated, is this. Get over it.

      Personally, as someone who doesn't give a stuff where you live, I show the accepted level of respect to anyone, regardless of their nationality. Perhaps if more people did the same, the world would be a happier place. Too bad common courtesy isn't.

    9. Re:Nope... that would be "Your Majesty". by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > how would you prefer a foreigner address the U.S.
      > president? "Sir"?

      Your Hypocracy
      Your Corruptness
      Your Arrogance

      I tried some others but they didn't have a ring to them.

  19. Mod Parent Up by Raul654 · · Score: 1

    Seriously, I think he makes an excellent point. I'd *love* to hear them try to explain this one away with their cooperate-speak. They'll prolly try to sell it off an as honest mistake, that the guy responsible has been summarily punished, etc etc.

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    1. Re:Mod Parent Up by binner1 · · Score: 4, Funny

      The person responsible for this spam has just been sacked...

      The person repsonsible for the person responsible for this spam has just be sacked...

      Or something thereabouts! Sorry MP.

      -Ben

    2. Re:Mod Parent Up by damiam · · Score: 1
      This spam will now be completed in an entirly different style.

      Would you like to buy a DeRALPH THE WONDER LLAMAll? It'll only cost you REG LLAMA OF BRIXTON $499, and you get a high MERLE Z. LLAMA IX quality computer, complete with monitor!

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  20. Bad for Direct Mail Companies by TheRedHorse · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Why would direct mail companies choose to use automated programs like this?

    Let's look at what these programs give you:

    1. A ton of results.

    2. 80%(and probably a whole lot more, I'm just being conservative) of those results are probably false due to all those AOL member pages that haven't been updated in years, people who put up fake info, info that is out of date, etc.

    Wouldn't this be bad for the direct mail companies? Clients that hire them want to reach as many real people as possible. The direct mail companies that use the methods mentioned in this story can never provide their clients with what they want, the ability to reach real consumers.

    The Direct mail companies probably know this and either, are planning on changing it or don't care and are just interested in spamming as many people, real or not, as possible.

    Direct mail companies interested in doing what they promise should think about the way they collect information in order to provide better service if they are a real company not just looking to spam everyone alive, or dead in this case.

    1. Re:Bad for Direct Mail Companies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
      http://fdasdfdsafdsafsadfdsaf /dsfdsafasfdsaljfldskfj /kljdsflkjsdfkldsjfakdsjfkldsjf /lfdskjdsklfjsdklfjdsklf /dsfasadfkljdsakfldskfljdsklfjdsklf /kldsfjsakldfjsakldfjkldsjfkdsafj /klfjdssakldjfsakldfjklsadfjakdsfjkldsf /KJfdklsfjkldsajfgkafdjgklfdjglkfdsjgkdf /kjdfskldfkldsfgdskfjgkjrgioejveji /gkfdjgsdjgkrevgjeirvjerio /jiojfgejrifrejivoerjioerj /jijrfjeifojerfierjifo /jifrjwefijweifoerjfioerfjire /jifejfiorjefierjfioerfjirofj /fweijfiojefiowerfjoiwefjioerwfj /fiwejfoiwejfoijweifojweifoewjf /ifjwejfiowejfiowefjiweofjiowefj
    2. Re:Bad for Direct Mail Companies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At a guess Dell (or DirectMailCo.) trawl through a list of possible candidate companies from Yellow Pages (for example) and feed the web addresses into software that trawls a site for contact details.

      That'd be faster that manually going through each site; if it doesn't find any addresses, these web sites could be manually processed after.

      Thats how I'd do it anyway!

      (mind you, wouldn't the Yellow Pages already have the company address?!)

    3. Re:Bad for Direct Mail Companies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, there is a way to validate addresses. I used to work for a print shop, and one of our services was for mailings. In order to save as much as possible on the postal rates, we subscribed to some software the US Post Office provides where you feed it a list of addresses in some format (we usually did .csv) and it would reference a cd-rom to see if the address was valid. An updated disc is provided to you each month. Once the program validates all the addresses for a particular mailing, it prints out labels with all the routing information, etc, and then there are machines that stick the labels onto the printed pieces as they are fed through the system, then someone separates the labeled mail according to all the (very many!) postal regulations as to how validated mail is to be sorted. Then you just drop it off at the post office and that's pretty much it. Basically you save loads of money by doing the post office's work for it. I'm sure the direct mailing print shops have a much more sophisticated system, but this is the gist of it.

      tcr

    4. Re:Bad for Direct Mail Companies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, you are quite right. After working for a company in the DM industry, I know that they don't generally harvest addresses this way.

      All home addresses are already in databases owned by the big three. (The same as the big three credit reporting agencies). I worked for one of them, Experian, just after they changed their name from TRW.

      The information is crosslinked with information from the phone company as well. Anytime you by something and use a credit card, your name, address, purchase preferences, # and types of pets, cars, etc, etc, etc, are stored on the databases. Anytime someone such as Dell wants to send junk mail, it's much cheaper and easier to just rent a list from them than to search the web for addresses.

  21. Hello, wideness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
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    1. Re:Hello, wideness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
      http://www.eveeieyhfgfcdoosammgwsnboivvbsczxlzgabc /ooieiabdcdjsvbkeldfogjhiyeeejkagclmieooiono /epdk /abcdefmfighyiqxjklmonopqrosoyotuvwxoyqwerty /uiov /sdfghjklqewiuznmbjadzmcloeuirquakndsflksjdf /lkas /fskdfasiewurznmcvweroiqewrnamdnzcvuowieramn /fkas /dfhzuxcihskjrnakjzkjcxbviusayrkajsfzxncvizu /dyri /bakdnfbzkcvhgiuegriweramdnfzxlcvueirhamdnzk /ciue /jranbsdmfzcowierandmfxzncbkjhfabsdifuweajzk /xcuw /erhasdfzxncvkjdfyiuzxcnvsikirkajeajsbdfkzxb /uyef /rahsdjbzcvxmnvcuweyriausdnfzxbcvkwueyrajnbv /kjxg /eveeieyhfgfcdoosammgwsnboivvbsczxlzgabc /ooieiabdcdjsvbkeldfogjhiyeeejkagclmieooiono /epdk /abcdefmfighyiqxjklmonopqrosoyotuvwxoyqwerty /uiov /sdfghjklqewiuznmbjadzmcloeuirquakndsflksjdf /lkas /fskdfasiewurznmcvweroiqewrnamdnzcvuowieramn /fkas /dfhzuxcihskjrnakjzkjcxbviusayrkajsfzxncvizu /dyri /bakdnfbzkcvhgiuegriweramdnfzxlcvueirhamdnzk /ciue /jranbsdmfzcowierandmfxzncbkjhfabsdifuweajzk /xcuw /erhasdfzxncvkjdfyiuzxcnvsikirkajeajsbdfkzxb /uyef /rahsdjbzcvxmnvcuweyriausdnfzxbcvkwueyrajnbv /kjxg /eveeieyhfgfcdoosammgwsnboivvbsczxlzgabc /ooieiabdcdjsvbkeldfogjhiyeeejkagclmieooiono /epdk /abcdefmfighyiqxjklmonopqrosoyotuvwxoyqwerty /uiov /sdfghjklqewiuznmbjadzmcloeuirquakndsflksjdf /lkas /fskdfasiewurznmcvweroiqewrnamdnzcvuowieramn /fkas /dfhzuxcihskjrnakjzkjcxbviusayrkajsfzxncvizu /dyri /bakdnfbzkcvhgiuegriweramdnfzxlcvueirhamdnzk /ciue /jranbsdmfzcowierandmfxzncbkjhfabsdifuweajzk /xcuw /erhasdfzxncvkjdfyiuzxcnvsikirkajeajsbdfkzxb /uyef /rahsdjbzcvxmnvcuweyriausdnfzxbcvkwueyrajnbv /kjxg /eveeieyhfgfcdoosammgwsnboivvbsczxlzgabc /ooieiabdcdjsvbkeldfogjhiyeeejkagclmieooiono /epdk /abcdefmfighyiqxjklmonopqrosoyotuvwxoyqwerty /uiov /sdfghjklqewiuznmbjadzmcloeuirquakndsflksjdf /lkas /fskdfasiewurznmcvweroiqewrnamdnzcvuowieramn /fkas /dfhzuxcihskjrnakjzkjcxbviusayrkajsfzxncvizu /dyri /bakdnfbzkcvhgiuegriweramdnfzxlcvueirhamdnzk /ciue /jranbsdmfzcowierandmfxzncbkjhfabsdifuweajzk /xcuw /erhasdfzxncvkjdfyiuzxcnvsikirkajeajsbdfkzxb /uyef /rahsdjbzcvxmnvcuweyriausdnfzxbcvkwueyrajnbv /kjxg /eveeieyhfgfcdoosammgwsnboivvbsczxlzgabc
  22. Email addresses on web sites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since I changed the email addresses on my web sites from "name@example.com" to "name @example.com", SPAM emails have almost stopped.

  23. Dell doesn't harvest addresses by peterjm · · Score: 3, Informative

    Companies like Dell don't harvest addressess. They deal with direct marketing companies who either do the harvesting, or who buy large lists from email addressess from companies who swear up and down that they lists contain only people who asked to recieve information about this sort of thing (whatever this sort of thing may be).

    1. Re:Dell doesn't harvest addresses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So maybe someone who doesn't like the Kermit 95 project, simply added their address to such a list manually to indirectly spam them? That's some advanced technology.

    2. Re:Dell doesn't harvest addresses by jelle · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "Companies like Dell don't harvest addressess. They deal with direct marketing companies"

      Hiring a marketing company to do some work in your name makes you liable for whatever they do in your name.

      --
      --- Hindsight is 20/20, but walking backwards is not the answer.
    3. Re:Dell doesn't harvest addresses by keithlim · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Companies like Dell don't harvest addressess. They deal with direct marketing companies who either do the harvesting, ...

      Actually, nobody involved here did any "harvesting" of any addresses. "Harvesting" implies that they did something to earn their list of addresses, something akin to sowing and nurturing a field of crops. They did nothing of the sort.

      A better term for such behavior would be something like "scraped" or "dredged", something more appropriately descriptive of the indiscriminate collecting of addresses on a large scale. It's a change in usage that I would like to see happen. "Harvested" seems to have become something of a de facto standard term for the practice, unfortunately.

      There is a place for "harvested" in describing a list of addresses. This would be an appropriate term for a list of addresses built up by (confirmed) opt-in, i.e. everyone on the list knowingly consented to be on that list, for whatever the purpose of that list is.

      However, unlike agricultural harvests, a harvested list cannot be sold or given away. The moment it is transferred to someone other than the harvester, it's junk, it's garbage; it's beyond useless, in fact, as it would be counter-productive if ever used.

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      -- keith lim keithlim@pobox.com http://pobox.com/~keithlim/
    4. Re:Dell doesn't harvest addresses by acecccp · · Score: 1

      They wouldn't actually be hiring them, but purchasing a product (list of emails) from them.
      If I buy brand name sneakers for instance, I am not legally responsible for the labor practices of the manufacturer.

    5. Re:Dell doesn't harvest addresses by duffbeer703 · · Score: 2

      Mafia bosses don't kill people, they just hire assassins who do the killing for them.

      --
      Conformity is the jailer of freedom and enemy of growth. -JFK
    6. Re:Dell doesn't harvest addresses by jelle · · Score: 2

      But if you use the sneakers to kick somebody in the b*tt, then you can't say 'hey I bought the sneakers from somebody else'.

      --
      --- Hindsight is 20/20, but walking backwards is not the answer.
    7. Re:Dell doesn't harvest addresses by acecccp · · Score: 1

      you "*"d out "butt"?

    8. Re:Dell doesn't harvest addresses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not about legality, it's about morals and ethics.

      If you buy Nike, then MAYBE it's immoral since they're using child labour in poorer countries. I'm not saying it is, just something concerned citizens should judge for themselves.

      To sum it up, it's your own choice wether you want to take responsibility or not. If Dell takes responsibility, they will think twice before hiring web-scanning "marketing companies". People boycotting and critizing can MAKE them think twice and take responsibility.

  24. stuck mailing lists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, how long will it take before you start getting preapproved credit card offers??

    I think King George has pretty good credit - he comes from a wealthy family...

  25. Scary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Message-ID: <36020asstr$1018271406@assm.asstr.org>
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    This is my first time posting a story, so please be gentle in your
    replies.
    Elements of this story are true; elements are fictional. I
    hope, at some point, to make the whole thing come true. I'd love to
    hear suggestions for follow up stories.
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    Keepher

    Keeper

    I'd been dating Amanda for three years - time for a ring and a date
    Dr. Laura would say. And the will was there, just not the cash. Plus,
    after three years she was transfered to Colorado, about 18 hours from
    the Ohio college town where we'd met.
    She's 25, I'm 22. I still have another year to go before graduation.
    We hated it but there was nothing we could do about it. She wasn't
    making much now, but a few more years with the company and she would
    be set. She's a design artist, really talented. Unfortunately it's a
    rough industry; three or four applicants for every opening. Like I
    said, she's really talented, but it's a hard career to get into, even
    for the best. It's rewarding though, for the lucky ones that get the
    break. Anyway, we knew she couldn't afford to miss this opportunity.
    I still had another year to go. I want to get into teaching, high
    school English or history. Not exactly a pot of gold, but also very
    rewarding. There's also a high demand, so we knew I would be able to
    find something in Colorado after I graduate and could work while I
    continue with graduate school part-time.
    Neither of us had much cash, so we had to rely on emails and the
    phone. We also planned to meet up when we could, either half way or in
    Colorado (she didn't get much time off and couldn't travel) but that
    was expensive.
    I never knew exactly how long a year could be. I learned.
    It's hard to go from seeing someone every day to the cold monotone of
    email and chats. Plus, all you hear about is how long distance
    relationships never work. One person gets lonely...then they get
    angry...then you spend all the time you're together in person arguing.
    I was scared.

    I'm not sure how it started; for all I know it could have been some
    Jerry Springer show with teen moms saying they had babies so the
    daddies couldn't leave them. Maybe it was something in the back of my
    mind all along, but soon I was getting desperate and scared.
    Sex was always hot between us. It wasn't everything in our
    relationship, but it was great. She was better than anything I'd
    experienced before. We fit, really well, and she loved trying new
    things. For the first time in my life, sex got better as time went on;
    we kept learning new things about each other.
    The one thing that really frustrated me was that she always made me
    wear a condom. I hated it. I had never been inside a girl without one.
    I was always terrified of getting some girl pregnant and ruining my
    life. Now that I was with someone for the long haul, I wanted to try
    things "au natural" for a change. It wasn't that I wanted her to get
    pregnant, I just felt we had reached a point in our relationship that
    we could both feel safe. We were clean, devoted. But she was deathly
    afraid of pregnancy.
    I knew she wanted kids, and I knew she enjoyed talking about having
    children, and I knew she wanted to have mine; sometimes it would come
    up during sex and I swear she came faster and harder every time I had
    her knees on her chest chanting words like 'breeder' and 'baby maker'.
    I don't know if it was the job or if she was worried about how here
    parents would react, but she was just very worried and we had to be
    very careful.
    About a year and a half into the relationship, I convinced her to go
    on the pill. She was a little embarrassed but agreed it would be a
    good back up to the condoms. Of course, I didn't plan on using condoms
    after she started...
    She took the pill for four months. It made her really sick.
    Apparently that's just how it works on some girls. It also stopped her
    period completely which scared the hell out of her. I suggested we
    could try some other kind, like the injection kind, that uses a
    different active ingredient, but she wasn't willing to try it.
    I begged and I pleaded to go bare before the drug's effects wore off;
    I figured if it had stopped her menstration completely that atleast
    she couldn't get pregnant but she wouldn't go for it.
    I guess it was a little selfish of me, considering how important it
    was to her to avoid any 'surprises' but after four months apart I was
    getting worried and desperate. I started doing a little research and
    putting together a plan.
    My birthday is in March, and all I asked for this last one was cash
    so I could afford a flight to Boulder. My family knew how keen I was
    on her and I got it.
    Amanda and I decided I would come to Colorado over spring break. I
    had five days off work, so we figured that by taking a late flight on
    the last day, we could fit in a pretty good visit. She had to work
    Saturday but was taking a Monday and Tuesday off, giving us an
    uninterupted three-day-weekend.
    I gathered a few supplies (not many clothes, though) and caught a
    flight late Friday night. It's increadible how short a flight is
    compared to an 18 hour drive. I arrived a couple hours later. She
    picked me up and we drove another hour to her apartment in Durango. I
    was pretty wrecked and after a few slow romantic kisses I crashed and
    slept until 2 in the afternoon. She was away at work. This was fine
    with me because it gave me time to prepare.
    I walked a few blocks to a strip mall to pick up a few things to make
    dinner with, and, of course, a bottle of our special Moet & Chandon
    champange. I was a busy little beaver when I got back, setting up a
    cliched romantic dinner for two - right down to the detail of two
    chocolate mints on the pillows.
    She got in around seven, tired but caught up with work. I think she
    suspected I would do something special, but was surprised anyway. I
    really outdid myself with the cooking (and cleaned up the huge mess I
    made).
    I acted chivalrous, led her to the couch and took off her shoes and
    socks, poured a glass of red wine. I don't know how tired her feet
    could get sitting on her ass at a drafting table but they responded to
    the royal treatment as planned. After a little light relaxation, I lit
    the candles and began to serve dinner.
    After the meal, but before dessert, I excused myself to the kitched
    for a few moments. I popped open the champagne and poured it into two
    plastic (high class, eh?) champagne flutes. I added a little something
    special to hers, two valiums.
    From my research, I knew the dose would help the alchohol work in her
    system but wouldn't know her out completely. Plus, the bitter
    champagne would help cover up the taste of the medicine. We enjoyed
    the champagne and a really great chocolate dessert of some sort (I
    picked it out of a catelog at the store). We retired to her bedroom.
    Before I opened the door, I told her she had to humor me, I had a
    little surprise. I put a blindfold over her eyes and led her in.
    I undressed her, slowly. I love looking at her body and seeing her
    reminded me of what had made her absense so painful. I love her
    curves, her breasts...and I got a surprise when I saw that she had
    shaved herself...just like I love it. It's wonderful to go down on her
    without worrying about hair in your teeth.
    I laid her down on the bed and went over her very slowly, first with
    my tounge and then my hands. I opened a bottle of massage oil that I
    had bought before I came and started rubbing it in to her.
    It was clear that the sedative and alcohol were taking effect.
    Normally, she tenses up everytime I use lotion on her until I show her
    the bottle's label saying that it is water based, not petroleum, and
    safe for use with latex condoms. This time she didn't - and of course
    the massage oil was just that - oil based. I had a back up bottle in
    case she asked to see it, but didn't need it.
    After a slow rub down. I helped he too her feet again and reminded
    her to keep the blindfold on. I guided first one leg, then the next
    into a pile of soft silky material and pulled it up. It was this
    increadable white silk slip, cut very low with almost invisible white
    straps. Next I moved her legs once again, but I think by the time I
    had the next part half way up her body, she had figured out what I was
    doing; a little chill ran down her spine.
    But she was good, and didn't fight or struggle. I finished zipping
    the last part, turned her toward the mirror, and took off the blind
    fold.
    Amanda stood there wrapped in silk, lace and sequins looking
    absolutely virginal in a wedding dress. I admit it wasn't much, I had
    bought it from an ad in the paper (and recieved some strange looks)
    but it fit remarkably well. I knew it wasn't nearly as beutiful as the
    one she would someday wear, but she was glowing. Without moving her
    head, she let me take her hand, then slip a very simple, thin, gold
    band onto her right finger. I had bought her a starter wedding band
    for less than $20 at a pawn shop, but it put a million dollar smile on
    her face.
    I admit I got a little rough at this point. I knew the effect the
    dress would have on her, I had no idea seeing it would hit me so hard.
    I pushed her back onto the bed and began pushing the flowing dress up.
    She didn't object; she was increadibly moist. I wasn't wasting my time
    with my tounge though.
    I made a great show of rolling the condom down the shaft of my cock
    and and then moved between her legs. After I had placed just the tip
    inside her, I reached up to the headboard and turned a wind up key.
    As I slowly moved into the woman who was and would be my wife, a
    little beat up music box started playing, slightly off key, "Here
    comes the bride".
    I had intentionally not cum for four days...four days of hell and
    frustration because I knew this might be my only chance. I was afraid
    I wouldn't last very long, afraid our first time together again would
    disappoint her but I think her orgasm started the moment she opened
    her eyes...it didn't matter though, I had waited too long...with too
    much build up to hold off. I was in her as deeply as possible, her
    legs up in the air in a position she sometimes joked was like my cock
    was picking the egg to fertilize when I heard a snap...the sound of
    one latex based condom exposed to an oil based massage oil and
    disentigrating...and I came, in her for the first time.

    Keeper II
    I stayed inside Amanda until my cock went completely soft, slipping
    out of her along with a little stream of cum. I have to admit that
    right I that moment I started to have doubts. Did I really want her
    pregnant? Did I really think a baby would keep her with me if I had
    impregnated her, basicly, by raping her?
    But that didn't affect how exciting it was. I rummaged in my bag to
    get out the Polaroid camera I had swiped from my parents house. It was
    a really beutiful sight, the way she was layed out. Being apart was
    stressful. The times we managed to get together it seemed we went back
    and forth between exquisite pleasure in being together and constantly
    sniping at each other. But here, she looked so peaceful. I took her
    glasses off and put them on the head board.
    I took one picture of her face. Then another of her whole body. I'm
    doubly fortunate with Amanda. She has both the most beutiful, and
    tightest, pussy I've ever experienced. Between her legs, her lips were
    closed with just a little pearl of my cum showing. I took a picture of
    that too.
    I took my finger and wiped the droplet up. On a whim, I put it on my
    tounge.
    Now, I don't think I'm a pervert, and I don't think there is a single
    guy out there who has never tasted his own cum. And I know how much I
    like how she tastes. This was something different, though. This was
    the taste of both of us, together.
    I reached down again and put my finger inside her, then put a few
    drops on her lips; unconciously her mouth opened just a little. If
    there was one hang up that drove me nuts, it was her aversion to my
    cum. Until I met her, I had been with anyone who could bring me off.
    She could do it with either her hand or her mouth. It was a whole new
    experience to be able just to lean back and let someone else give me
    an orgasm.
    But she wouldn't take it in her mouth. The few times she had, she
    made me feel guilty by grimacing as she swallowed [ok, that's not
    entirely true. When a guy is mid-orgasm, it's not humanly possible for
    him to think on any level so complex as guilt. It actually made it a
    little better because I knew she was doing it strickly for my
    pleasure]. Anyway, it wasn't much of a problem. She liked me cumming
    on her, especially feeling my hot cum hit her face. A couple of times
    I licked it off her face and kissed her. I think she liked that - it
    drove me wild.
    I smoothed the dress and pulled it back down. I had gotten a little
    rough, but was glad to see I hadn't really damaged the dress. It
    wasn't really expensive, but I was hoping to get some more use out of
    it. I took two more pictures, then hid the photos and camera in my
    bag. I wasn't sure how she would react if she knew I had taken them.
    We had videoed ourselves making love once when we first started
    dating, but right afterward I erased the tape. Another time I had
    filmed us without her knowledge but the quality wasn't great. I had
    set the camera on her computer desk in the bedroom and covered it
    enough so she wouldn't see any light indicating it was on.
    Unfortunately the angle showed more of me than her for the most part,
    but at one point I had a great view of her breasts bouncing while she
    was on top. I watched it a couple times but was really afraid she
    would uncover it (or worse, change tapes in the camcorder and have it
    pop up sometime watching old tapes with her family -or god forbid our
    children). I realized later that I should have copied it onto a normal
    VHS tape.
    Anyway, the pics were for my own 'private' use so I didn't think she
    would mind too much. I curled up next to her and went to sleep.

    --
    Pursuant to the Berne Convention, this work is copyright with all rights
    reserved by its author unless explicitly indicated.

  26. Yep - it'd be "you"... by TDScott · · Score: 2

    That was (and still technically is) the respectful version. The monarch would reply using "thou".

    Wow. I actually learned something useful out of my English course...

    1. Re:Yep - it'd be "you"... by YourMissionForToday · · Score: -1
      Wrong, wrong, wrong! The familiar version of "you" in Middle/Early Modern language is "thou." If you can believe this, "the Lord's Prayer" was actually meant to be an intimate communication unto God, not a formality.

      "You" comes to us from the French language, and its original use was restricted to the formal. Check Shakespeare's Othello for more information...

  27. Why Dell and fundamentalist religion... by uberred · · Score: 2, Funny

    are incompatible...

    Dude, you're going to hell!

    --
    Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so. --Ford Prefect
    1. Re:Why Dell and fundamentalist religion... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

      I had forgotten what a stupid fucking cartoon that was.

      Thanks for reminding me.

    2. Re:Why Dell and fundamentalist religion... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've always thought the phrase "Easy as Dell" that they use in thier commercials is a direct play on "Easy as Hell", which I've thought is bold for a company to do... just a thought.

  28. Artificial Intelligence?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How exactly is this an advance?
    The basic program to parse a page and compile an address could be written in 20 lines of ... well.. basic.

    1. Re:Artificial Intelligence?? by SpatchMonkey · · Score: 1

      I'd like to see you try it. AI researchers have been working on this sort of Natural Language parsing for years to little avail.

      This is why steps such as these are so important.

    2. Re:Artificial Intelligence?? by SpatchMonkey · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That is a little different. The data you received clearly had a common structure as it was just retrieved from a database and placed into a template.

      Actually analysing language is a much more difficult task. Just look at the very imperfect quality of language translation tools on Google and Altavista to see just how hard it is.

    3. Re:Artificial Intelligence?? by Bouncings · · Score: 2

      This isn't language translation. All they have to do is look for a known city, followed by a known state abbreviation. The last two lines will be the address. And to make sure there's no junk data, they can simply verify that the address exists.

      --
      -- Ken Kinder ken@_nospam_kenkinder.com http://kenkinder.com/
    4. Re:Artificial Intelligence?? by ceejayoz · · Score: 2

      It found the name "King George II" somewhere else in the page, that's why. I assume "George" is what triggered it (searching for common names in a database, probably).

    5. Re:Artificial Intelligence?? by I91MM · · Score: 1

      Probably it found the "II" at the end of King George II, backtracked a word and found "George" (a name), then backtracked and found "King" (another name, though usually a surname).

      So, it was pattern-matching for names followed by Roman numerals (as Americans such as William H Gates III are wont to do :). Not very hard. It probably then found a postal address on the page and cross-linked the two.

      --

      Sen vord is thrall and thocht is fre,
      Keip veill thy tonge I conseill the.

  29. Except at slashdot... by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    where they can't even interpret the coding to do page widening...hence the second part of my sig...

  30. OT: automatic linking to Google Cache by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I know the "Slashdot effect" has been around for a long time, but it seems to me to have blown up in the last few weeks for some reason. Does Slashdot think they should automatically include a link to the Google Cache for all links in the post? I guess its up to the Submiter to include these Links, so maybe it should become compulsory to include them. Google wouldnt notice the difference, and all these other sites would stop being over-run by /.ers.

  31. Re:Your wide page for the day! QWZX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Ha! Didn't Work!

    Go Taco!

  32. Time to seed some pages by SeanTobin · · Score: 4, Funny

    I would just love to throw out a page with addresses like:

    Zephram Cochrane
    c/o Phoenix Research Institute
    186000 Miles Avenue
    Central, Montana 01701

    Seven Nine
    2349 Tendara Street
    Unimatrix, CA 79301

    John Kelly
    2032 Gravaton Ave.
    Mars, NC 02376

    Tobin Dax
    2135 Bajor Parkway
    Symbiant, UT 02230

    --
    Karma: SELECT `karma` FROM `users` WHERE `userid`=138474;
    1. Re:Time to seed some pages by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For those that don't know...
      Zephram Cochrane flew the first warp ship (which exceeded 186000 miles/second) which launched from central montana. 01701 seems just like enterprise's registry number.. maybe 02030 (year zephram cochrane was born) or 02063 (year of first contact with vulcans) would have been better

      Seven of nine was born at Tendara colony in 2349. Her full name is Seven of Nine, Tercerary adjunct of Unimatrix 01 (hence 79301)

      John Kelly was lost in a Gravaton Elipse in 2032 commanding the Aries 4 mission to mars. It was later recovered by Voyager in 2376.

      And Finally Tobin Dax was the 2nd Dax symbiant, joined in 2135 after the death of Lela Dax. Tobin dies in 2230 and Dax is joined to Emony Dax (who later has a little affair with Leonard McCoy)

      Some people just have too much time on thier hands

    2. Re:Time to seed some pages by YourMissionForToday · · Score: -1

      This guy gets defenestration! Defenestration!

    3. Re:Time to seed some pages by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      if I ever meet you I'll kick your fucking arse

    4. Re:Time to seed some pages by orthogonal · · Score: 2, Funny

      How about:

      Get A. Life
      123 Too Much Time On My Hands Street
      Trekkieopolis, Nerdinistan

      Dude, you're NOT gettin' a life!

    5. Re:Time to seed some pages by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That was soooo EuroFunny.

    6. Re:Time to seed some pages by balloonpup · · Score: 2, Funny

      The time has come for all good nerds to come to the aid of their country. I ask of you now, Nerdinistan, yea or nay?!

      --
      I sing the doggie electric!
    7. Re:Time to seed some pages by LazloTheDog · · Score: 1
      But the zipcode validation would fail.

      --
      Oink, Oink!!
    8. Re:Time to seed some pages by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      or you could lookup the address of an MPAA office and give a false name at that address.

    9. Re:Time to seed some pages by jalagl · · Score: 1

      You're right. I normally use:

      Juan Perez
      21 Jumpstreet
      Somecity, FL 33102

      --
      -.
    10. Re:Time to seed some pages by sconeu · · Score: 2

      Probably the Direct Marketer's software would bounce those addresses, because the Zip codes don't match.

      CA is 90000-95999

      0xxxx is somewhere on the east coast of the US. I believe it's the north-east coast.

      --
      General Relativity: Space-time tells matter where to go; Matter tells space-time what shape to be.
    11. Re:Time to seed some pages by hazyshadeofwinter · · Score: 1

      Fortunately, my habit of giving my snail address as "Beverly Hills, CA, 90210", would work perfectly. Knew that show was good for *something.*

      --
      Click here if you just like to click on shit.
    12. Re:Time to seed some pages by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ohh its funny, give it a 5 cos its got Star Trek mentioned. FUCKING GIMP.

    13. Re:Time to seed some pages by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      To hell with the junk mail: T. H. E. Devil 666 Evil Way Hell, SC 13666

      --
      The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
  33. Spam ... by halftrack · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    What an intuitive way to get spam published on slashdot.

    --
    Look a monkey!
    1. Re:Spam ... by damiam · · Score: 1

      Not intuitive. Imaginative, maybe.

      --
      It's hard to be religious when certain people are never incinerated by bolts of lightning.
  34. Federal Felony by Snowgen · · Score: 2, Funny

    Isn't it a Federal felony to read the post card if you're not King Geoge? Never mind scanning and posting someone else's mail on the web without their permission! :)

    1. Re:Federal Felony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      isn't it a homosexal felony to suck pickles through a crazy straw?

    2. Re:Federal Felony by shepd · · Score: 1

      I think the mail fraud laws say that you aren't allowed to open the mail of others.

      I don't think they say anything about reading it, which would explain why credit statements are often sent in security envelopes.

      --
      If you could be told what you can see or read, then it follows that you could be told what to say or think - BoC
    3. Re:Federal Felony by tomstdenis · · Score: 2

      Actually no. Receiving mail under a pseudonym is not illegal. The assumption is that unless you are a tennant of the address you cannot open the mail [unless the company has some policy, e.g. registered mail].

      I mean I can subscribe to Maxim as "Joe Dirt" .... :-)

      Tom

      --
      Someday, I'll have a real sig.
  35. Dells not very high quality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thou hast lost an Eighth.

  36. Isn't Dell the company... by zorg50 · · Score: 0

    That uses prison labor to make their computers? They just keep getting more and more things pinned on them...I think I'll stick with Alienware.

    1. Re:Isn't Dell the company... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

      Compaq grinds up jews to make the plastic for their cases.

    2. Re:Isn't Dell the company... by istartedi · · Score: 3, Funny

      uses prison labor to make their computers?

      Dude, you're gettin' a cell.

      --
      For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?
  37. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  38. Re:Your wide page for the day! QWZX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    works fine here, maybe you should upgrade to IE6 which has APW (advanced page widening) technologies

  39. Well then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Let's definitely contact Dell in that case, then. Don't you think they'd be very interested to learn that the marketing firm they were buying their address lists from populates their database with information that is largely completely inaccurate?

  40. New Market slogans/headlines by A_Non_Moose · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Spam: Yes, it is a Royal Pain.

    Dell: Just when you thought it was safe to get back on the net we give you spam and then the dell dork.

    Intel: It makes spamming the intraweb faster!

    --
    Have you read the moderator guidelines? Well, have you, PUNK? (and I want a Karma: Gnarly option)
  41. Letter sent to the kermit project... by AyeRoxor! · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I sent this letter to the kermit project address. Maybe someone here can answer it for me:

    --Begin--

    Computers are stupid and would not be able to aggregate a name on one page to a snailmail address on another without human help, yet I can't find where King George and this address were listed near each other. Any ideas from which page this name and address were gleaned?

    thx :)
    very funny otherwise

    1. Re:Letter sent to the kermit project... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      That is reaching... Also, it takes off "of england". It's programmed to do that? uh-uh...

      This is looking like a farce...

    2. Re:Letter sent to the kermit project... by core_blimey · · Score: 1
      If you look at this page http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html and view source it might help a little, although if it was an automatic tool that did this it's pretty good. Perhaps it looked for the "This page last updated:" bit and found the "The Crown of King George II" near it and that was good enough. Or maybe it was the first "name" mentioned on the page (a dictionary of common names would certainly include George) or perhaps it finds all names in this manner.

      The more I think about it, the more likely it just grabbed the html, parsed it for matches with a dictionary, that gave it the King George II part. It also parsed it for addresses, probably finding "New York NY 10025-7799" and stripping the address sections before it as well. Not rocket science, but then again pretty good really. This works in a manner similar to all those screen scraping firms around I guess. I wouldn't be surprised if "Manning Publications Co" got a similar postcard, or if one to "Georg Fischer" was created to (although how common is Georg without the e?) I doubt "Oren Yehezkely" got one though.

      --
      In democracy your vote counts. In feudalism your count votes.
  42. Uh... that's what I said. by TDScott · · Score: 2

    I said: "That [you] was (and still technically is) the respectful version."

    You said: "The familiar version of "you" in Middle/Early Modern language is "thou." "

    Aren't we saying the same thing?

    1. Re:Uh... that's what I said. by YourMissionForToday · · Score: -1

      I glued my nostrils together with airplane glue today...it was cool!

    2. Re:Uh... that's what I said. by Ozymandias_KoK · · Score: 1

      Nope. The easy way to remember is that the familiar is for folks you might call by their name, while respectful would be for people addressed by titles (Mr., your Kingliness, what have you.)

    3. Re:Uh... that's what I said. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      back in the bad old days, a high ranking person could use the familiar with people they didn't know. in that sense "thou" could be insulting. see "Twelfth Night" for an example. if you are from the US, think of it as the equivalent of 19th century Southern aristocrats referring to grown men as "boy" or "son".

  43. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  44. Hello, may I speak with Charlie Root? by voisine · · Score: 1

    I was once asked if I could put Charlie Root
    on the line. The person had aparently recieved
    some email from him. This is the default real
    name for the root user on FreeBSD.

    l8r
    Aaron

    1. Re:Hello, may I speak with Charlie Root? by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      $cientology was looking for Major Domo. I think it had something to do with an FTP server on [127.0.0.1] with copyrighted material.

      --
      One line blog. I hear that they're called Twitters now.
    2. Re:Hello, may I speak with Charlie Root? by ShavenYak · · Score: 1

      You should have put them on hold listening to Mr. Roboto. That woulda backed their noodles.

      Domo aurigato, Mr. Roboto, domo (domo) domo (domo)

      --

      Hey kids, there's only 5 days left 'til Yak Shaving Day!
    3. Re:Hello, may I speak with Charlie Root? by AndroidCat · · Score: 1
      I can do better than that: I have a telephony app that will read the story of Xenu. However, it's currently broken because Microsoft, in its infinite wizbang, decided that only Win2000 should run telephony apps.

      I never did finish the telephone solicitor app that would keep inserting "Yeah", "Uh huh", "Hmmm", etc into the conversation. Could have been fun.

      --
      One line blog. I hear that they're called Twitters now.
  45. I hope it was in German by 00_NOP · · Score: 2

    Because that is all that fool Geordie could read.

    Stands Scotland where it did?

    If you don't get it read up some history.

    1. Re:I hope it was in German by vinyl1 · · Score: 1
      Not exactly. George II was born in 1687 in Hanover, and his native language was German, but he could speak and read English reasonably well by the time he assumed the throne. He came to England when his father became king in 1715, and had adequate time to prepare for his future duties.

      (Looks like today's reading of Reed Browning's biography of the Duke of Newcastle, who held various offices under George II from 1727 until 1762, wasn't entirely wasted.)

    2. Re:I hope it was in German by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's Macbeth got to do with it anyway? He was a bit earlier on (contemporary of Edward the Confessor, if I remember my Shakespeare...).

  46. That's funny as hell by YahoKa · · Score: 1

    ahahahahahahahaha ... that's the funniest thing i've seen in a long time.

    1. Re:That's funny as hell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Really? It must sure suck to be you. It was funny, but not the funniest thing in a long time. You should get out more.

  47. Dude!! by That+Dell+Guy · · Score: -1, Troll

    Your Majesty,
    Thou art so getting a Dell!

    --

    Dude... you are so getting a Dell!

  48. Oh yea, and solution: by YahoKa · · Score: 1

    Use raster data for your contact information, and where it can't be done (like for DNS entries) use sites like myprivacy.ca .

  49. Rough And Tough by Horny+Smurf · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Tonight way going to be awesome. I just got home from work, took a shower, and now i was putting on my favorite outfit! It was Friday night and no one was going to stop me from having a good time tonight. I met up with some of my friends at a gas station down the street. We decided to hit a few clubs, then afterwards, if we didnt hook up with anyone, we were going to go to our favorite bar "Shouters". We had the whole night planned out. We were planning to be feeling the effects of tonight until late sunday evening, hopefully not monday when we all had to go back to work. So we all jumped in the cars and drove over to the strip. We went into a few clubs. danced with a few woman, but the clubs just were not jumpin tonight for some reason. We all began to grow bored of dancing and the loud music, so we all decided to go over to Shouters earlier then what we were planning. We started off with a few beers, then we all just said fuck it, and started ordering the hard shit. After a few shots, and a lot more drinks, I was completely waisted! My friends were not as messed up as i was. So i was sittin there for a while and this dude walks in. He walks right behind me and some how he hit me in the back of the head. I didnt know or care if it was accidental, but I jumped up and started to beat the shit out of this guy. My friend all pulled me off of him and the bartender told me to get the hell out of his bar! I told my friends to stay there and finish there drinks. I would be outside waiting for them. I had to piss so bad, and the only place that was open at that time around there was the bar, and since i couldnt go back in there, i had to look for a place outside. I saw an alley on the side of the building, and decided that I should just go into the alley and do my business. So i unzip my mants, pulled out my dick and proceeded to take a piss right there in the alley. After a few seconds i could hear foot steps behind me. "Hey you know you can get arrested for that!" I heard the voice say. "Fuck off" i told him, and kept going. The footsteps got closer, and as i turned to look, i could see that this guy was huge. about 6'5" 260lbs of hard muscle! I squeezed out the last few drops of piss and the guy grabbed my arms and held them tightly behind me. "

    What the hell are you doin!" He grabbed my dick. "Here let me shake it for ya" He dragged me further down the alley. I was trying to yell for help, but it was now use, He put his huge hand over my mouth. No one could hear me. He took me inside a door that led into a room with an old mattress laying on the floor. I was terrified! I didnt know what this guy was going to do with me. He took out some handcuffs and cuffed me to some poles that were on the wall. I was laying on the mattress with my hands cuffed to a pole. I was thinking that maybe he was some weirdo that wanted to torture me! I started to sweat profusely. He came over to me and told me to shut the fuck up. He gagged me so i couldnt yell or say anything. He started to pull my jeans off. Then he slid my boxers off. He walked over to a table and grabbed a pare of scissors. I was terrified. I thought this guy was about to cut my dick off. I tried to scream and yell, but it was no use, the gag was doing its job. No one could hear me. I sighed as he brought the scissors closer and he started to cut my shirt. I had never been so relieved in my life. He cut my shirt off, and i was laying there on the old matress completely nude, gagged and bound to the poles on the wall. He started to take his clothes off. He was completely naked. His body was well muscled, with very light hair on his chest and stomach. His dick was huge! the biggest i had ever seen before!! It was as big around as a beer can and about 7" long, and it wasnt even hard yet! He started to play with himself, attempting to get himself hard i suppose. I saw this thing grow into a fucking monster! It was about a foot long, if not longer, and this thing was so thick!!! He walked over to me and flipped me onto my stomach. I saw him reach for a bottle of something, but i couldnt make out what it was. I felt something wet and cold drizzling onto my ass. He grabbed my ass and spread me wide open. He started to rub this stuff all over my asshole. I almost started to cry as i had figured he was going to stick his huge cock in my ass!!! I was so terrified i think that my pubes where turning grey! I felt his fingers rubbing my ass. All of a sudden i just started getting all these emotions and feeling that i had never had before! I mean sure i have thought about being with another guy before, but what guy hasnt. So as i was laying there with him completely in control, I started to get very aroused. I couldnt believe what was happening.

    This guy was about to rape me and i was enjoying it! As he rubbed my asshole i just gave in to the pleasure. My cock started to grow and i pushed my ass upward more so i could get my ass open a little more. Then it happened, he plunged one of his fingers into my ass. Oh my it felt amazing. The feeling was indescribable. I started to moan and buck my ass up and down. Then i felt another finger violate my rectum. I figured that he was loosening me up for his huge pecker. Then he pulled out, and i felt it! It huge cock was at the entrance to my pink virgin bung! I felt him thrust his hips forward, and with one single push the head of his cock was inside of me. The pain was so immense, i thought that he had to of done some major damage to my ass. Then he pushed it all the way in. I started to buck and wiggle my body. it hurt so bad that i had tears running down my face. the pain was immense! Just try shoving a bear can up your virgin ass and tell me how it feels. As this guy was violating my rectum, all i could think about was how hot i was getting. My lust was overriding the pain. It started to feel so amazing having his huge prick inside of me. I couldnt believe what was happening. Oh my god, i had never in my entire life felt something as good as this huge dick being plunged deep into my ass. Then he pulled out. He turned me on my back and saw how hard i was. He asked me if i was enjoying him fucking me like a bitch!. I told him that i was and he knelt down in between my legs. He took my 8" cock into his mouth and began to suck it like a pro! as he was sucking me he was ramming his finger in my ass. I started to moan. It felt so good to have another man sucking me. I started to cum like i had never came before. He just kept his mouth right over my cock and took every bit of my seed into his mouth. he pushed himself up with his massive arms and took the gag from my mouth. He leaned his face towards me and began to stick his tongue in my mouth.

    My cum was still in his mouth. the taste was incredible. this was the first time that i had ever in my life tasted cum. I had never even thought about it before. As many times as i had the chance to do it before, i just never though about doing it. But i loved every minute of it. I savored the taste of my cum and his tongue in my mouth. I felt chills going up and down my spine as this fucking hunk had his tongue rammed down my throat. The he grabbed my legs and threw them over his shoulders. He spread my ass again and inserted his huge piece of meat! I moaned and gasped as he shoved it back into my warm man hole. Oh it felt so good. I told him to fuck me like the little bitch that i was. Fuck me until you fill my ass full of your white creamy jism!! He started to fuck me so hard. It was amazing. He started to jerk me off as he was fucking me. Just a few jerks and i was cumming again. All over his stomach and chest. my cum was flying everywhere. I had never came like this before.

    This was the best sex i had ever had in my life! I saw his face turn bright red, and his body began to shake. He let out a huge gasp and then he moaned so loud. He must have squirted a fucking gallon of cum into my ass. He was jerking for what seemed like 2 minutes straight, when he finally finished he dropped over on top of me and told me that it was the best he had ever had!. He told me how tight i was and how he loved ripping me open!. I told him that it was the best fucking sex i had ever had. He said that he didnt want me to have any hard feelings. it was just that he liked what he saw, and he takes what he likes. I told him that it wasnt a problem, after all. How can you rape the willing?......

  50. Re:Your wide page for the day! QWZX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Of course I use the superior IE...

    Microsoft Internet Explorer
    Version: 6.0.2600.0000
    Product ID: 55736-451-4218587-04956
    Update Versions: Q313675;

    Maybe Microsoft finally got tired of reading Slashdot with page widening posts? :)

  51. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  52. HONKY TONK MERRY-GO-ROUND by Big_Ass_Spork · · Score: -1
    HONKY TONK MERRY-GO-ROUND

    I'm on a honky tonk merry-go-round,
    Makin ever spot in town,
    Startin out early, comin home late,
    Ever night with a brand-new date!
    I'm on a honky tonk merry-go-round,
    Actin like a foolish clown,
    Still racin those blues that you left with me,
    Wonderin if I'll ever be free.
    Round and around and around I go,
    Ridin high and feelin low,
    Round and around just like a top,
    Well, I'm a-gettin dizzy, but I can't stop!
    I'm on a honky tonk merry-go-round,
    Actin like a foolish clown,
    Still racin those blues that you left with me,
    Wonderin if I'll ever be free.
    Round and around and around I go,
    Ridin high and feelin low,
    Round and around just like a top,
    Well, I'm a-gettin dizzy, but I can't stop!
    I'm on a honky tonk merry-go-round,
    Actin like a foolish clown,
    Still racin those blues that you left with me,
    Wonderin if I'll ever be free,
    Yes, I'm wonderin if I'll ever be free!

  53. Occams Razor by KFury · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It seems much more likely that someone on the team was registering for something somewhere and, wanding to avoid stupid spam, put in the clever King persona instead.

    Promptly forgotten, it was a surprise when Dell, seemingly unrelated to the registration account, sends email to that profile.

    More than likely someone on your team remembers it now, but finds the alternative 'harvesting' explanation so funny he's keeping quiet.

    1. Re:Occams Razor by KFury · · Score: 3, Interesting

      'sends email to that profile'

      Err, snail mail, rather.

      And it might not have been someone on your team at all. People use false data for setting up accounts all the time. Maybe they just thought this would be funny.

      Heck, they were apparently right.

    2. Re:Occams Razor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Possibly. I signed up slashdot (50 Nagog Park Acton, MA 01720) on a bunch of those annoying sites that require registration.

    3. Re:Occams Razor by r7 · · Score: 1

      >It seems much more likely that someone on the team was registering for something somewhere

      As my 7 year old niece would say "yea, right".

      I've received these Dell ads at my P.O.Box too,
      and have never advertised it except on the web.

      What's worse than their "harvesting" methods is the fact that they don't provide an opt-out phone number. If you call the number listed on the card the person will tell you that A) they can't take you off the mailing list, B) they can't connect you with someone who will, C) they can't give you their name, and B) they can't connect you with a supervisor. If you want to opt-out you can call a Texas phone number...

      I believe this is all illegal by FCC regulation. That never stopped Dell though. Not surprisingly Mr. Dell is one of the most outspoken supporters of Microsoft's monopoly business practices. What an ass-kisser.

    4. Re:Occams Razor by kyras · · Score: 1

      slashdot.c: In post `Re: Occams Razor':
      slashdot.c:9: redeclaration of `B)'
      slashdot.c:9: `B)' previously declared here

      Yes, I'm drunk.

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  54. ON MY OWN -- Hank the 3rd by Big_Ass_Spork · · Score: -1

    ON MY OWN

    Lookin back through the years I saw my anger
    There was things that I could not control
    Wandrin through my memories with my darlin
    Now I fall through the door on my own

    On my own again, All alone again
    Now I see what its like when your away
    On my own again, All alone again
    Now I see what its like when your away

    ~Spoken~
    He was man walkin big and proud
    And he was walkin through a mighty thick crowd
    Although we never could understand
    Where that man had been as time grew on
    He grew weak and thin
    As the days rolled on through the night
    He started drinkin so much he was losin his mind
    And as he sits back he knows that
    He'll die alone
    ~Spoken~

    On my own again, All alone again
    Now I see what its like when your away
    On my own again, All alone again
    Now I see what its like when your away

  55. Re:Your wide page for the day! QWZX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's bizarre. I just went back and looked again, and it's widening the freaking page!

    I swear that before it didn't work, though. Strange!

  56. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 2, Funny

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  57. We are Not Amused by gelfling · · Score: 2

    You dirty colonist rabble with your General Washingham. The Quartering Act stands.

  58. Yes, this and more by drwho · · Score: 1

    Now, if you could insert some control characters and cause a format string overflow on the postal machines, muha ha ha ha.

    This explains all the mail I get to the church of the subgenius, ishmaelian sect.

    1. Re:Yes, this and more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So previously un-networked machines are in a sense connected to the internet - tops! This means if anyone knows enough about "label printing machine microcode" (O'Reilly - ISBN: 2743827482BLAH) then they could crash em. What fun!!

      [tangent] This does open up a whole realm of machines that could be hacked because people have subsequently hooked them up to "internet data-trawlers"; the designer of said machine could never have expected that so theres bound to be buffer overrun xploits - surely?

      p.

  59. now I get it... by _ph1ux_ · · Score: 1

    I read the article on /. 3 times before following the link. it made NO sense to me each time... until i read the EXACT same verbage found in the link.

  60. LEARN TO SPELL! by Ramesh+Diltan · · Score: -1, Troll

    How about learning to spell "Anals"? Geez...

  61. HEY DELL by _ph1ux_ · · Score: 1, Troll

    LOSE THE FUCKING DORK!

    that guy must be some dell execs kid - he is an IDIOT.

    It is precisely because of him that i will not buy a dell. he insults the intelligence of the human race... I cannot STAND that guy. Dell is a stupid stupid company for thinking that that lame ass kid is good for their image. It makes them look as bad as acer and packard bell - pandering to the lowest common denomenator.

    dell, dont you think that people are smarter than that - especially people who ARE INTO COMPUTERS.

    1. Re:HEY DELL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, you're getting a DELL!

    2. Re:HEY DELL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, he's actually an actor.
      His website

    3. Re:HEY DELL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nobody ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the general public... as St. George Carlin put it: "Just think how stupid the average person is - then realize that, by definition, half the people are even stupider than that!"

  62. I don't really care about Postal junk mail by Ryu2 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    For me, postal spam it's not as bad as email, because it doesn't cost you in disk space or bandwidth.

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    1. Re:I don't really care about Postal junk mail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For me, it's worse because I have to pay (by weight) for trash dumped in the local landfill.

    2. Re:I don't really care about Postal junk mail by s4ltyd0g · · Score: 1

      Mail isn't delivered to my door so when I go to my mail box (once evry week or so),there's an awful lot of junk I have to weed through to get my mail.

      What with fliers and catalogs it's really not that hard to loose that check you've been waiting for. How's that for bandwidth problems?

    3. Re:I don't really care about Postal junk mail by mrmag00 · · Score: 1

      this isnt 1985 - the 1 megabyte a year at MOST of spam an average email account recieves isn't much. and if you save spam, may god save your soul. so there goes disk space...

      yeah, someone will bitch because they get more, but really. I don't get more then 50 spam emails a year, which is less then 100kb i'd bet. which is not much, espically if you have broadband.

    4. Re:I don't really care about Postal junk mail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unfortunately, these wasted postcards kill otherwise healthy trees unnecessarily, and endanger wildlife and soil stability.

      What is this world going to look like in 50 years?

    5. Re:I don't really care about Postal junk mail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What if you're getting 30 SPAM emails a day, and you're on a 28k modem? (I've managed to reduce that since by tracking down all the 'legitimate' sources and 'opting out' and a whole lot more just get filtered into Mr Oblivion)

      And while spam's often pretty small, I've seen larger stuff with embedded pictures, and it doesn't take many of them to make answering legitimate Email take way longer than it should.

      1 megabyte a year? No more than 50 EMails? And you accuse the parent of living in the past. :p

    6. Re:I don't really care about Postal junk mail by ColaMan · · Score: 2

      Personally I don't care about the lose-weight-fast / get-rich-quick schemes.

      I get three or four a day, and I wouldn't mind so much about it, if it wasn't for all the penis enlargement, !!!!RAPE SEX!!!!!, hot ANAL teens and other sexually explicit material arriving in my inbox daily.

      I have kids aged 1 and 2 - I don't want them exposed to this type of crud when they go to use my computer.

      (And smart replies about where I've been surfing will be ignored - I surf at work.)

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    7. Re:I don't really care about Postal junk mail by Phil+Hands · · Score: 2

      50 a year, I agree, is nothing to get upset about.

      If on the other hand you had received 35 spams in the last 24 hours, you might like me be forced to spend time fighting it, which is time that you cannot spend doing something useful.

      Spamassassin has caught 3917 spams for me since mid April.

      Obviously, the advent of spamassassin helps, but it is also teaching the spammers to be more devious, so will eventually result in the equivalent of multi-resistant bacteria.

      Actually, looking at this, rather too many of those 35 spams got through the net. Must be time to apt-get install spamassassin/unstable

      Anyway, if someone was stealing your time, in significant quantities, you would get rapidly upset about it. If you told me that you'd been mugged, I'd be sympathetic despite the fact that I've never been mugged.

      The fact that I probably spend a few hours a month dealing with this, as do many others means that the spammers are depriving people of many lifetimes a year. This is mass murder, just spread out over a wider population, so the average loss is lower.

      Postal junk mail goes on my fire, and warms my house, so doesn't really worry me (apart from the damage to the environment)

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    8. Re:I don't really care about Postal junk mail by Phibian · · Score: 1

      I've found it easier to get off postal junk mail lists than email lists (I get roughly 100 messages a day). Snail mail costs the sender money, rather than the recipient. Thus, the senders care a little more about the recipients. If you have a "real" mailbox, you can put a no flyers sign out, which reduces the junk too. Return to sender anything that's junk and has an actual address - it's an easy way to get off lists. And then don't sign up for catalogues if you don't want them....

    9. Re:I don't really care about Postal junk mail by headchimp · · Score: 1
      If I get a spam snail mail that has a pre-paid envelope in it. I will shred the mail they sent me, stuff it in the envelope (sans personal info) and mail it back to them. That way they pay to receive their crap back.

      I used to take old coke cans, flatten em a bit, fill with concrete till it hardens just to add weight to the letter.

  63. The true test by Fat+Casper · · Score: 3, Funny
    Is whether or not ye King gets a pre-approved credit card application. Make sure the bills are sent c/o the office of Exchequer.

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  64. Occams Razor SUCKS by Ixohoxi · · Score: 1

    Let's all say it together!

    Don't you just love it when pseudo-intellectuals spout Occam's Razor whenever they want to play "Devil's Advocate"??

    Besides the fact that the supposed "Razor" is LESS likely and MORE complex than the explanation which was already given.

    Yes I have a pet peeve with people who call upon Occam's Razor. A majority of them are clueless about the topic at hand and are just trying to sound intelligent, and according to Occam's Razor, the simplest explanation for why such people use Occam's Razor is because they ARE clueless!

    Polish a turd, it's still stinky and brown.

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    It has much more to do with
    the Earth's rotation than with cesium.
    1. Re:Occams Razor SUCKS by KFury · · Score: 2

      I actually find it more irritating when people blatantly label others as 'pseudo-intellectuals' for using terms they personally don't like.

      Since your post is ambiguous, are you against the term 'Occam's Razor' or the underlying principle of complexity theory? Can you elaborate why?

      Thanks much,

    2. Re:Occams Razor SUCKS by (void*) · · Score: 2

      Actually you are wrong. There is nothing wrong with the principle, but what you are irritated by, is that you CAN'T SEE what seems to be a simpler explanation. Either ask, or flame the supposition that it is simpler. Don't blame anything on Good Ol' Occam, or the invocation of it. It's good that people are invoking it, and good that they can disagree with you.

    3. Re:Occams Razor SUCKS by Ixohoxi · · Score: 1
      Thanks for inviting clarification. I have nothing against the term, only its misuse. Thus the unkind label 'pseudo-intellectual'.

      One translation of Occam's Razor: "One should not increase, beyond what is necessary, the number of entities required to explain anything." More about O.R. here.

      Why this happens, IMHO: Most people whom I see invoke O.R. are NOT knowledgeable on the topic at hand. Case in point - original article poster is the most knowledgeable on the topic at hand AND gave the actual explanation of how things happened. O.R. invoker was trying to explain what happened in a DIFFERENT way. I felt that the O.R. invoker CREATED unnecessary entities in his explanation of how the Dell postcard was 'really' sent to King George II.

      Occam's Razor is not to be abused as a framework for the creation of a 'simpler' explanation that somehow must be correct because of its supposed simplicity.

      That said, of course I myself created an unnecessary entity by explaining how most people who abuse O.R. are clueless about the topic at hand. With confidence I assume this, however, it is not necessarily so. However, after analyzing the 'simpler' explanation, I can with exacting hindsight conclude that they abused O.R.

      In summary, I feel like Occam's Razor is often misused as a pseudo-scientific "God made it so". It's one of those theories that can be difficult to ignore when used properly, but rarely is it used properly.

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      It has much more to do with
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  65. Natural resources by Bouncings · · Score: 1

    It is indeed a bit ironic that commercial harassment companies (they call themselves 'direct marketers') use the name harvest, when infact what they are directly doing is destroying thousands of miles of rain forests each year. A harvest implies they actually grow plant matter, not waste it.

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  66. Let's use the system by Bouncings · · Score: 4, Funny
    Here we go:

    The Devil
    1 Microsoft Way
    Redmond, WA 98052


    Jack Fuck-me-in-the-ass Valenti
    MPAA
    15503 Ventura Boulevard
    Encino, CA 91436

    Just to start off with a few.

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    1. Re:Let's use the system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful
    2. Re:Let's use the system by gosand · · Score: 2
      I just put this one up on my website, in an unlinked page:

      Frigginspammer, Ima
      One Dell Way
      MSC8424
      Round Rock, TX 78682

      If Dell picks it up, or anyone else, then they are using a harvester because this page isn't linked from anything.

      There are many possibilities for this type of thing. I keep record of those companies who send me unsolicited ads, like Dell. Just because I give them my email address (because they required it when I ordered something), it doesn't mean they can send me spam. Instead of talking to the brick wall, I just make sure to go sign up for all kinds of newsletters on the web, and use sales@dell.com, or support@dell.com as my email address.

      Kind of a take-off of the old order-20-magazine-subscriptions-and-"bill-me-later " for one of your "friends".

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      My beliefs do not require that you agree with them.

  67. It seems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    as if Dell is a stupid organization with even stupider people working for them than their asshole pitchman. But that was obvious from the very first commercial, wasn't it?

  68. Get the joke right.... by LittleGuy · · Score: 2

    He was Hanoverian....

    Geck, erhalten Sie ein Dell!

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  70. Sprint owns Dellhost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dellhost is owned by Sprint and still hosted at Interliant on Dell gear. They are barely staying alive and may move everything over to a Sprint Datacenter because Sprint hates cutting that check to Interliant every month.

  71. Remotely similar incident by Hygelac · · Score: 1

    I've had a remotely similar incident with Dell. For some dumb reason, they send marketing spam to MAILER-DAEMON@myisp.com where I am a postmaster (where 'myisp.com' would be the actual name of my ISP). The spam had instructions for removing your address via a website -- I tried it...didn't work. Then replied to the sender address asking that I be removed...didn't work. Then sent a message to abuse@dell.com and postmaster@dell.com asking to be removed...didn't work. Added the spamming class-C network to the deny file for my entire ISP -- no more spam. ;-)

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  72. did you send one to Bernie? by skidrash · · Score: 1

    Schiffman, that is.

  73. You're evil! :) [nt] by emmons · · Score: 1

    nt

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  74. More important: IS THIS SPYWARE??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't know how many mouse clicks and registering and accepting and stuff just to download the "installer" for Kermit95, which then dowloads the actual binaries... But when I checked this installer, I see it has been hardcoded with my registration details and lots of PKI stuff.

    I'm certainly not going to use this for a secure SSH connection, I expect that the software makes a lot of callbacks to the vendor and I suspect the Dell postcard was faked just to get free advertising on Slashdot!

    Paranoid? Well, why else would I use SSH then?

  75. Let's play spot the difference by Tottori · · Score: 1
    From http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html:

    The Kermit Project
    Columbia University
    612 West 115th Street
    New York NY 10025-7799
    USA

    From the postcard:

    KING GEORGE II
    KERMIT PROJECT
    612W 115TH ST
    NEW YORK, NY 10025-7721

    Now, I'm willing to believe that software might exist that can canonicalise a street address and correct the zip code. It's even not utterly outside the realms of possibility that it could pull a person's name off a completely different page on the same site and include it in the address. But why oh why would it remove the word "The" from "The Kermit Project"?

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  76. very clever marketing guy at dell by guest12 · · Score: 1

    neat, huh? gets dell many eyeballs and chuckles.

  77. Re:So, ... (off topic) by colmore · · Score: 2

    I don't know how widely kermit is used, but I go to Columbia, and if any of the project members are reading this:

    Quit trying to redo the interface! The old one worked fine and looked good in black and white. The new one is too small to read and has no reason for existing.

    But other than that, it's the best print management software I've come across, so good job on the free advertising and all that.

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  78. Old news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The New Yorker had a very brief item about something like that, many years ago. Something about getting a letter at their offices that began with the words "Dear New,"

  79. Slashdot.com? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Shouldn't that reference on the bottom of the page be to slashdot.org?

  80. Interestingly enough... by Enigma23 · · Score: 1

    Junk Mail may end up being much less of a problem in the United Kingdom as it was recently determined that selling information contained within the Electoral Register for an area without the consent of the persons whose information would be transferred would be in violation of the Data Protection Act.

    Sometimes the Law works in our favour... :-)

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    1. Re:Interestingly enough... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you misspelled "favor"

      just kidding pal!!! relax and don't be so sensitive!
      and don't tell me I misspelled "misspellt" or I will be forced to make up some more bad jokes!!!

      cheers :-)
      an anonymous American

  81. This is news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I know slimy people that have been doing this for *over 4 years*.
    It isn't very difficult with java, c, or perl.

    first you harvest a whois to get a list of domains. then you write a spidering daemon that pulls pages, and using perl you extract the email addresses. You can do this with commonly available software components, some have been around for a while.

  82. junk mail is why I don't mail by twitter · · Score: 2
    Once, not long ago, the post was delivered three times a day with no crap. That's how things HAD to be before telephone and faxes. You can't run a business without effective communications.

    How sad the US post has become. My wife has to dig through piles of junk to get the few bills we must mail. Fliers of all descriptions, Magverts, garbage small and large, even a page from the post office listing all the junk mail. Is it any wonder that real mail is trown away at home, get's delivered to the wrong house by the postman, or just plain lost in all the crap? It's inconvienent and disgusting. We all pay for those piles of junk, even if the company buying the useless adverts goes out of business - your insurance premiums will cover parts of it, higher retail prices cover other parts and your postal stamps will subsidise the rest. It's not a fear of anthrax that makes me wash my hands after getting the mail, it's all that nasty ink that comes off onto my hands. Contamination by touch is the lowest of the post office's indignities.

    So I use the mail less, so prices of stamps go up, so the post office sells more junk mail, so I use the mail less .... See a patern?

    When did the post office get into junk mail anyway?

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  83. Won't Someone Think of the Trees!?! by Snover · · Score: 1

    C'mon. Postal SPAM kills trees. We like trees. They allow us to live. That's very important, because if we don't have trees, we don't live, and we're dead, and that's bad. Don't kill trees. Trees are our friends. *takes another draw from a marijuana joint* Really.

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    1. Re:Won't Someone Think of the Trees!?! by DrVxD · · Score: 2

      > if we don't have trees, we don't live, and we're dead, and that's bad
      <joke>But at least there'd be no more spam...</joke>

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  84. "Mr. President" or Sir by Unknown+Poltroon · · Score: 1

    is the appropriate wording i think. I would probaly call him the shrubbery.

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    1. Re:"Mr. President" or Sir by DrVxD · · Score: 2

      > . I would probaly call him the shrubbery.
      Sir is more appropriate for a knight. Especially a Knight that says "Ni".

      > Give me back my karma numbers, damnit.
      Amen to that. (Yes, I know it's "Excellent" - but how Excellent?)

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  85. USian pie by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    USian Pie

    A long, long time ago I can still remember How the trollers used to make me smile And I knew if I had to boast That I could try to get first post And maybe I'd be happy for a while But moderators made me shiver With every minus they'd deliver DoS scripts couldn't stop it They scored them all "Offtopic" I know that it's cheap crack they smoke And meta-moderation's broke At first I thought it was a joke The day that trolltalk died

    -- Chorus --
    Bye, bye, MEEPTy, OOG, and Grits guy Drove the Cruiser like some loser who starts posts with a *sigh*
    Those Steve Woston posts that we all knew were a lie Wonder what became of girls petrified? What became of girls petrified?
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    Did you write a bunch of Perl? And did it make you want to hurl Feces at the Wall? Can you believe these lame-ass polls? Do you post big stretched-out assholes? Can you make the goatse.cx link not show? Well I know you think that Siggy sucked Will the real Bruce Perens please stand up? The bots don't have a clue. Man, I dig those trolls from Shoe! I was a rabid Free Speech advocate With a Red Hat T-shirt and a Free Beer gut
    Bought my Sony laptop working Pizza Hut The day that trolltalk died

    -- Chorus --

    It's been two years since the IPO And LNUX sinks to all-time lows But that's not how it used to be When Spiral showed how it was done Trolling as Jon Erikson Who worked for NPO Technologies Oh and while they tried to filter posts Somebody rooted Slashdot's host "Crack Slashdot? That's absurd!" Better go change your password While JonKatz wrote a Hellmouth book By using posts he simply took And we flamed him till he was cooked The day that trolltalk died And we were singin....

    -- Chorus --

    10 grams. Inchfan. Didn't log out. Goddamn The mods will find the sid real soon, man
    You can't hide if you aren't AC Your bud (George here) tried BSD A dead Streetlawyer's tips were free And WIPO helped letsriot turn Nazi 70 made his percents up While 80md warned "liberals suck" The moon does not exist It's just a liberal myth Oh and as Taco tried to take a nap We forced him to invoke bitchslaps Do you recall the flood of crap The day that trolltalk died? We started singin....

    -- Chorus --

    Oh and then we were wearing out "All your base" And started posting monospace
    The better for our penis birds So come on, be a zealot, be a dick You don't think Anne Marie's a chick? Because lying's all we do about HURD So go and push for BSD And say GPL isn't free Slow down, cowboy! The limit Is one post every minute Now tell the right wing facist slime Infringing on Your Rights Online That they can't censor all the time The day that trolltalk died

    -- Chorus --

    I met a troll they called The Rev And asked him if CD BREAK HEAD He said, "That's old. Get over it." And with all the courage I could muster "Imagine what a Beowulf cluster...." But it wasn't worth the trouble to submit The karma caps are just plain jive And everyone's moved to K5 The steelcage has grown rusted And Geekizoid is busted
    The three sites I don't see for weeks Segfault, kernel, Comp-u-geek Code is not art. This ain't Freshmeat The day that trolltalk died

    -- Chorus --

    - Trolling /. since 7/8/02

  86. But not of the contemporary axis (I think). [nt] by emmons · · Score: 1

    nt.

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