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Carp-Free Independent Music Labels

robkill writes "The actions and intentions of the RIAA have been under close scrutiny in the folk music community as well as Slashdot. In addition to Janis Ian's article previously featured here on Slashdot, guitarist Harvey Reid has an article on the importance of internet radio for the independent music community. Besides posting a number of good links, he has started a signup webpage for independent artists and music labels who are interested in circumventing the CARP fee. Right now, it's only a mailing list for Artists and Record Labels who want to see internet radio succeed. So if you own the copyrights on some independent music, why not join the list? For the rest of us, it's a good list of musicians to support."

142 comments

  1. I pay. by Cryptopotamus · · Score: -1

    I pay for all my music. So there.

    I love Backstreet Boyz.

    --


    Humpty Dumpty was pushed.
    1. Re:I pay. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      I pushed him.

  2. Perfect Kiss by The+Lyrics+Guy · · Score: -1

    New Order - Perfect Kiss

    I stood there beside myself,
    Thinking hard about the weather
    Then came by a friend of mine
    Suggested we go out together
    Then I knew it from the start:
    This friend of mine would fall apart
    Pretending not to see his gun,
    I said "let's go out and have some fun"
    I know, you know, you believe in a land of love
    I know, you know, we believe in a land of love

    I have always thought about
    Staying here and going out
    Tonight I should have stayed at home,
    Playing with my pleasure zone
    He has always been so strange,
    I'd often thought he was deranged
    Pretending not to see his gun,
    I said "let's go out and have some fun"
    I know, you know, we believe in a land of love
    I know, you know, we believe in a land of love

    When you are alone at night
    You search yourself for all the things
    That you believe are right
    If you give it all away
    You throw away your only chance to be here today
    Then a fight breaks out on your street
    You lose another broken heart in a land of meat
    My friend, he took his final breath
    Now I know the perfect kiss is the kiss of death

  3. carp?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Carp is ok, but I like flounder better. And Bass is the best.

    Oh, fp.

  4. First Post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Once again, this article is claimed for the .test community!

    Fear us!

  5. Here is the version WITH carp: by Genghis+Troll · · Score: -1

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  6. Glad Somebody's finally doing it.. by billatq · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Quite Frankly, the RIAA's business practices make me sick. It seems that they try to make money off of everything that we listen to, while squelching the alternatives that we might listen to through another medium. They seem to want to copy-protect everything, throw fair use out the window, and then charge everyone royalties for what amounts to them as free promotion. I hope more artists sign up for this.

    1. Re:Glad Somebody's finally doing it.. by pheared · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It's called, "Being a business in a capitalist world." If you want businesses to look out for Jon Q. Consumer's interests, to take care of his well-being, and to make sure he gets enough food each week, form a Socialist community. Until then, don't be surprised when you find out that every GM of the world is only concerned with how much money they can get from you.

    2. Re:Glad Somebody's finally doing it.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you sure you want to stick out with such a unique and controvercial viewpoint? I don't know if the rest of the slashherd will agree with you.

    3. Re:Glad Somebody's finally doing it.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you want businesses to look out for Jon Q. Consumer's interests, to take care of his well-being, and to make sure he gets enough food each week, form a Socialist community.

      And has history has shown so well socialist communites (at least the ones who are socialist by the force of law) have done so, so well.

      There's nothing like the loss of free will to make me feel equal to everyone else (hey, we're all equal... equally screwed)

    4. Re:Glad Somebody's finally doing it.. by billatq · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Well--I'm not advocating socialism, but I don't think any single entity (and a non-governmental one, at that) should have this degree of control of the the type of music that we listen to and what we are and aren't able to do with the content in which we have legally purchased licenses. Not to mention, what happens when you aren't part of RIAA's big scheme of things? You can't exactly depend on a file sharing service to help promote your music, as they keep shutting the damn things down.

    5. Re:Glad Somebody's finally doing it.. by NateDAC · · Score: 1

      I have to say that as a listener of not-quite-so-mainstream music, I support the idea of a coalition for independent musicians. The majority of the music I listen to on a regular is either independent musicians (stuff from remix.kwed.org), or music by artists who have long since died (i.e. classical). On this same note, I've got several songs in my collection from artists I've never heard of prior to file sharing.

      The file I'm listening to right now as I write this is none other than the tune from the infamous Bubble Bobble, as performed by a high-school band/orchestra.

      Life was simpler before RIAA and DMCA and CARP (CRAP? Yes I read it that way the first time as well) and all these other four-letter acronyms. I don't even KNOW what CARP means, I haven't kept track of all these laws and changes lately, except it's yet another way to keep me from hearing music via whatever method works best for me at any given time.

    6. Re:Glad Somebody's finally doing it.. by blitziod · · Score: 1

      can you imagine if all the idie artists sign for this? It will basicly increase the gap between indie and corperate. most net radio will be indie and it will abound. Indie music will become popular and then the corperate world will have to change to their model to compete!

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      The only way to bust a doper--is when you yourself become a smoker!
    7. Re:Glad Somebody's finally doing it.. by blitziod · · Score: 2, Insightful

      well then stop supporting them. Every time you buy a record from a big company you put oney in the RIAA's pocket. Write letters to small labels , indie music magz and the like saying we will buy no corperate media. Hell right letters to sony and BMG too, maybe they will get the hint. If people can be shamed into veganism and not wearing fur, maybe they can be shamed into NOT buying shitty music.

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      The only way to bust a doper--is when you yourself become a smoker!
    8. Re:Glad Somebody's finally doing it.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful
      And has history has shown so well socialist communites (at least the ones who are socialist by the force of law) have done so, so well.
      Yeah, it's pretty nice here in Europe, without the oh-so-groovy capitalists of Enron and Arthur Anderson. Have fun while your markets crash, losers!
    9. Re:Glad Somebody's finally doing it.. by groman · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I am going to get modded down for this, but the problem is not with RIAA/MPAA/BSA/Microsoft/GM/AOL/Enron or whatever monopoly is terrorizing you at the moment, but with the semi-Socialistic government of the US(and pretty much the rest of the world too) that fucks up everything and allows laws to get passed letting these companies screw you.

      In my humble opinion a country should not need laws, but rather a principle (i.e. "Life, Liberty and Pursuit of Happiness") for the US.

      RIAA would be harmless if they tried to compete in real world capitalism as opposed to trying to legislate out of their ass.

    10. Re:Glad Somebody's finally doing it.. by aronc · · Score: 1

      Thing is, it's not simply 'business'. It's abuse of the powers of an oligopoly. In an operational market both the artists and the fans would have other venues to sell/consume their wares. But seeing as the RIAA has a lock (and is payig for legislating to lock it tighter) on the distrobution and they all set their contracts (indentured servitude) together there are no viable options through which to market music. The internet looked like it might break that, which is why the RIAA is gunning so hard for it. When the DRM act gets passed nothing will play anywhere w/o their permission and their oligopoly will be cemented in law.

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      aka aron.
    11. Re:Glad Somebody's finally doing it.. by aronc · · Score: 1

      This is, alas, only a semi-option. While it's true we can all live without RIAA/MPAA product if you do you are essentially removing yourself from the culture. The member companies are so large that you support them when you buy much of anything media related, including watching TV and listening to the radio (or buying stuff from their sponsors). If you can't talk to your friends/neighbors/loved ones about music, movies, television, magazines, and books then how are you participating in the same culture that they are?

      So, alienate yourself from everyone around you or feed the machine? What wonderful options.

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      aka aron.
    12. Re:Glad Somebody's finally doing it.. by Melantha_Bacchae · · Score: 2

      pheared wrote:

      > It's called, "Being a business in a capitalist
      > world." If you want businesses to look out for Jon
      > Q. Consumer's interests, to take care of his
      > well-being, and to make sure he gets enough food
      > each week, form a Socialist community. Until then,
      > don't be surprised when you find out that every GM
      > of the world is only concerned with how much money
      > they can get from you.

      At best, it is the worst kind of business in a capitalist world. Businesses do not have to care for social welfare (unless it is for the good PR), but they better care about treating their customers well. Or those very angry customers can take their business somewhere else, to the detriment, or even destruction, of the mistreating business involved. That is why there are all those sayings about "the customer is always right", or "the customer is number one". It is far more expensive to get another customer than it is to keep an existing customer happy. Happy customers keep buying from the business that makes them happy, making the business prosper.

      This applies to a true capitalist world, which unfortunately we don't have in the entertainment and software industries. Instead we have power mad monopolies and cartels who think they can treat their customers like criminals and use Congress to force them to buy. These are not upstanding businesses operating in a capitalist environment. These are greedy sharks that tear their customers (and their artists, and anyone who gets in their way) into bloody ribbons.

      One of the first steps in taking the RIAA sharks out is for independant artists to take over the internet airwaves. This is a necessary step that will not only give the independant artists a way to compete with the RIAA member labels, but will also save internet radio.

      Bells are ringing: Mothra, Mothra! Every heart is calling: Mothra, Mothra!
      Come on, Tok Wira, these sharks have gotta pay! New Kirk calling Mothra, we need you today!

  7. IMHO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    ehm... pork is good

  8. "CRAP-Free Independant Music Labels" by John_Booty · · Score: 5, Funny

    Anybody else read the headline this way?

    Wishful thinking, I guess!

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    OtakuBooty.com: Smart, funny, sexy nerds.
    1. Re:"CRAP-Free Independant Music Labels" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    2. Re:"CRAP-Free Independant Music Labels" by idfrsr · · Score: 3, Funny

      heh.

      real wishful thinking would be: CRAP-Free RIAA Music Labels

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    3. Re:"CRAP-Free Independant Music Labels" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You sir, are a terrorist.

      The FBI will be at your door shortly.

    4. Re:"CRAP-Free Independant Music Labels" by scumdamn · · Score: 2

      Damn! I was just checking to see if anyone had posted this because it's exactly what I thought the headline was.
      I also was expecting some +1 Funny mod points. :(

    5. Re:"CRAP-Free Independant Music Labels" by freeefalln · · Score: 1

      wishful thinking nothing. the best music out there today is on idependant music labels.. not shit RIAA labels.

    6. Re:"CRAP-Free Independant Music Labels" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
      Speaking of crap(flood), Horny Smurf here. Due to recent slashdot policy changes, I will be posting shit at score 0 instead of score -1. Guess you've defeated me, Jaime McCarthy!

      I was probably like any other fifteen year old when I was growing up, seemingly aways having to fight off a hard-on. Maybe it was hormones, maybe it was because I was still a virgin, but my almost daily jack-off sessions didn't seem to help much. I still wanted to experience the feeling of my dick actually plunging into some beautiful young girl's tight, wet cunt. Hell, she didn't even have to be all that beautiful!

      This feeling was driving me crazy. I HAD to have me a piece of ass soon, or I was simply gonna explode! I just couldn't keep out the thoughts of some young girl's pointed, jiggling tits slipping between my lips while my dick plowed between her moist slit.

      My imagination, summer bikinis, and dad's PENTHOUSEs helped me to fill out my favorite fantasies of what the girls in my classes looked like naked. Those vivid images of beautiful, naked young girls coming into my room looking at my dick with lust, or my plopping them down on a desk right there in school and fucking our brains out seemed to dominate my every waking moment. Hell, even my nights were filled with wet dreams of these nubile young girls offering their naked bodies to me on sight!

      The truth was I had never even seen a live naked girl since I was about seven-years-old playing doctor with a neigbor girl. Even then I didn't know what it was all about, just that my little dick got hard when I touched her bare pussy and that it felt REAL GOOD when she touched my hard dick. 'If only I new then what I know now,' I thought. Furthermore, I was much too shy to even approach a girl my age to ask for a date, much less to ask for a piece of ass or a blowjob.

      I was sitting under a tree fretting about all of this one summer day, when I was startled by the voice of a young neighbor girl who had walked up behind me.

      "What are you doing out here all by yourself?"

      Pauline was a typical eleven-year-old, her body just beginning to show the first signs of maturing into an hourglass shape, but she still was flat-chested. Her personality had definitely not matured, and I even cosidered her to be quite a brat.

      "Nothing much, just moping around," I told her.

      "What's wrong?" she asked in a soft tone, touching my knee as she sat down beside me on the ground, her small skirt riding up her smooth legs.

      I had never looked at her in a sexual way before, but the combination of my frustration and her uncharacteristic soft-spoken manner caused me to take a second look at her. She was actually a very pretty young girl, with long dark brown hair that flowed down onto her flat, preteen chest. Her innocent dark brown eyes looked deeply into mine as she pondered my troubles, and I began to get an idea on how I might exploit this budding motherly instinct of hers.

      "Well......, it's just that a lot of the other guys my age have dated girls already," I began, "some of them have even had sex."

      I paused to check her reaction. She was still sitting there looking at me intently, her knees pulled up near her chest and her arms draped around them casually leaving her skirt to gape open under her legs. I was sure that anyone passing by would be able to see her panties, but she didn't seem to be aware of her immodest pose.

      "I'm just too shy to ask anyone out, though. I guess I'll never have the guts to either."

      She sat there silently, bending her head down and resting her chin on her knees. She seemed to be in thought as she began to stare blankly at the ground in front of her, possibly wondering about her own lack of boyfriends and whether she too would ever have the experience of having sex one day.

      "Have you ever wondered what it's like to have sex?" I asked her, hoping to guide the situation into a possible encounter.

      She looked at me momentarily to see if I was sincere, or just trying to poke fun at her before answering.

      "Well...., yeah...., sometimes...., but nobody really likes me much around here. All of the boys in my class just want to play by themselves. I'll probably never have a boyfriend or anything," she said solemnly.

      "Have you ever thought about doing it with anybody around here?" I asked, pressing further.

      "EEEWWW, NO!" she said, raising her voice defensively.

      "Don't get mad, Pauline! I was just wondering." I said, trying to salvage the situation. "I wouldn't tell anybody if you had thought about it."

      After that exchange, we both sat silently for a few moments. She resumed her position of resting her head on her knees, and her skirt still left her entire bottom open below her legs. Hoping to get a better view of this sight, I stretched and yawned, feigning fatique. I then bent forward and crawled along the ground until I was stretched out on my side facing Pauline, my feet resting against the large tree. She looked at me momentarily before reaverting her gaze to the ground directly in front of her, resuming her thoughts. I waited until she looked away before looking under her legs, but when I did, I was greeted by the sight of her beautiful tanned legs disappearing into the rumpled bottom of her skirt. Between them was a bright white strip of cotton cloth, covering what I knew had to be her young twat. The tightness of the cloth stretched across her little pussy, clearly identifying just where it was by the indentation of the fabric along the slit. My dick immediately began to respond, and I quickly stuck my hand in my pocket to adjust it before it was too late, leaving it there to help hide the effect it was going to have on my pants.

      "I've thought a lot about having sex," I said, looking back up to her eyes just as she turned her gaze back to me.

      "Really? Who with?" she asked curiously.

      Now she had me on the spot. If I told her all of the girls my fantasies revolved around, it would be just like this little brat to go and tell them. As I studied her face though, I noticed a look that I had never seen before. It was as if she was trying to form a mental image of two people having sex, me being one of them and the other still left blank.

      "Well...., I don't know. You might think it's gross if I tell you. What's more, you'll probably go right off and tell them if I told you who it was," I said.

      "I won't think it's gross, and I promise I won't tell...., please....." she pleaded.

      Now I was beginning to feel I was getting somewhere. I really had her curiosity up, and I even thought that she might even be enjoying this line of conversation.

      "Well...., OK," I began. "But you gotta promise you aren't gonna tell. And it's not like I would really do it with them or anything. I've just thought about it, OK?"

      "OK, sure!" she replied, just a tinge of excitement in her voice.

      "Um..., well..., you know Kathleen Fent? I've thought about doing it with her." I said.

      "Oh," she replied, sounding slightly disappointed.

      "Yeah, she's fat and ugly, and has buck teeth... but I hear she's a major slut!" I said, hoping to get Pauline's gears going.

      Pauline raised up, resting her chin on her hands, her elbows on her knees. She shifted her feet out from her body, keeping her thighs together. Her little feet were pointed inward slightly, giving her a very little girlish look. Her gaze seemed to be far off now as she thought about what I had said.

      My eyes returned to that magic spot between her legs momentarily, as I pondered how to word my next sentence.

      "Who else have you thought about?" she asked in a faraway tone.

      "Well...., if you promise you won't think it's gross.....," I said, pausing for a response.

      "No..., no, I don't think it's gross!" she said, looking back at me with pleading eyes.

      "Well...., I'm kinda embarrased to tell you who else I was thinking about," I said teasingly.

      "Aw, c'mon....., I promise I won't tell!" she begged.

      "Well...., you really won't have to...., 'cause...., I kinda have been thinkin' about doin' it with you," I said softly, not really lying about it now.

      A look of complete surprise came over her face as her head raised from its resting place slightly and her hands came apart. Her mouth gaped open as she took in what I had just said and I noticed a distinct deep red blush spread across her face.

      "Larry...!" she exclaimed, not really knowing what to say next.

      "Y-y-you've really..... thought about...., y'know..., having sex..... with me?!" she asked in disbelief.

      "Well....yeah," I said, more confidently. "You're a pretty girl, and even though you don't really have any tits yet, you still have a nice body."

      She blushed again, instinctively reaching down and wrapping her skirt around her legs, drawing them together and hunching over to rest her chin on her knees once more. It was obvious that she had been flattered about my remarks, but at the same time she was totally caught off guard with the thought of someone wanting to have sex with her. I could see her playing out the scene in her mind as she sat there, rocking back and forth slightly.

      A long, pregnant pause elapsed before anyone said anything again. It was me who initiated the next question.

      "Well..., what do you think?" I asked her. "Do you think you would want to have sex with somebody like me?"

      "NO!" she exclaimed. "I couldn't....., I mean....., I'm only eleven-years-old. I shouldn't be doing stuff like that. And besides, you're fifteen!"

      "So, I know some girls who did it when they were nine- years-old," I lied.

      "Oh yeah....., who?" she demanded. "Well...

      ., I promised I wouldn't tell. And promises are promises," I said, trying to get myself out of that one.

      Pauline thought for a moment before saying, "Well...., I dunno....., I just don't think I better do anything like that."

      "OK, OK......, but if you COULD do it, do you think you would do it with somebody like me?" I asked, trying to keep on the topic.

      "Well...., I dunno," she said blushing. "I...., I guess so."

      I just smiled back at her, "Thanks, Pauline. I needed to hear that!"

      She looked back at me, and an embarrased smile flashed across her face as she had to look away. I wasn't through with her yet, however. I just HAD to get something out of all of this. My dick was pressing against my pants with one of the most raging hard-ons I had ever had. I had noticed Pauline looking down at my crotch a couple of times as we had talked about doing it, but I wasn't sure if she saw anything as my hand was still in my pocket, paritally hiding the tent-like effect my dick was having on my pants.

      I waited a few more moments before starting again, "You know...., I don't even know what a naked girl looks like."

      "What about your sister, haven't you seen her naked before?" she asked.

      "Well....yeah. But that was a long time ago, when she was just a little baby. Besides, it's not the same when you see your sister, especially when she's only one-year-old."

      I continued to look at Pauline. She was all balled up, and refused to look at me when we weren't talking. I had decided that I just had to at least see her bare little pussy, even if she wasn't gonna let me fuck her. At least I would have something to go whack off with for a while.

      "What about you...., would you let me see you naked?" I asked hesitantly. "I'll let you see me naked."

      "I..., I don't know. I better not," her voice showing her uncertainty.

      "Aw, c'mon Pauline," I begged. "I'll probably never get to see a naked girl until I get married...., if I ever DO get married."

      "I-I don't know, Larry." she said nervously.

      I could tell she was actually considering it, but she still would have rather I hadn't asked. Even so, the thought of seeing a naked boy probably for the first time intriqued her.

      "I'll make it worth your while," I went on. "I'll buy you an banana split when the ice cream man comes by."

      She paused for a moment, biting her upper lip as she contemplated my proposal. The agony of the moment was almost unbearable for me.

      Finally, she spoke, " Well....OK...."

      I almost leaped for joy inside, but I kept my cool on the outside. At least as much cool as I could considering my state of excitement.

      "But you've got to promise that you'll not touch me. And you've got to promise not to tell ANYBODY. And you still have to buy me the banana split." she rattled on.

      "OK, OK," I interupted, "I promise, I promise."

      "C'mon, let's go to my grandpa's barn where nobody will see us," I said, grabbing her by the hand and rushing her away before she had a chance to change her mind.

      Grandpa's barn was way off in a field by itself, surrounded by a few old oak trees on the sides and back. He used it mainly to store hay for his cows, and hardly ever came there during the summer. He also kept an old Studebaker out there, and that is where Pauline and I stopped to carry out our deal.

      "You go first," I told her.

      "Can't we both just go at the same time?" she asked.

      "Well...., yeah..., sure," I said almost reluctantly, not wanting to miss one second of her bare pussy being exposed.

      "Remember, you can't touch, and you've got to buy me that banana split," she said.

      "I know, Pauline. You don't have to keep reminding me," I said, as I unzipped my pants and she pulled her panties down under her skirt.

      I quickly shucked my cut-offs down, exposing my underwear and the large bulge sticking out into it. Pauline had bent over to pull her panties down to about her ankles, then stood up, stepping out of them with her left foot and flipping them off with her right. As she stood, she became transfixed by the sight of my bulging underwear.

      Knowing that her pussy was naked under her skirt, and that I was about to see it seemed to make my dick even harder than ever. What's more, knowing that my naked cock was going to be so close to a naked pussy, and me not getting to at least stick it in was more than I could bear. I just had to have more than just a look. My mind raced over what I could say to coax her into letting me at least try to stick it in her as we both slowly began to expose our sex to each other.

      I bent over as I slowly lifted the waistband of my underwear over my pulsing cockhead, sliding them down my legs. My face was about a foot and a half from Pauline's crotch, as she slowly lifted her skirt. The hem slowly inched it's way up, and just as I saw the first signs of a tiny hairless slit she stopped.

      "Well, stand up so I can see it. We've got to do it together," she demanded.

      Reluctanly I stood up, my hard dick pointing up at her face at about a 45 degree angle. Pauline gasped as she looked at it bobbing slightly in front of her.

      "OK, Pauline, take your skirt off," I said impatiently.

      "I'm just going to lift it up so you can see it, I don't want to take it off," she replied.

      I was at the point where I didn't care, just so long as I could see her whole pussy. Quickly she jerked her skirt up over her waist to expose my first full view of a live girl's pussy. It was so beautiful, just a tiny little hairless slit laying there between her closed legs. I marveled at the smooth folds of skin, and the lack of anything else around them.

      "Spread your legs a little bit, Pauline. I can't really see anything yet," I asked, my voice almost choking in my throat.

      Pausing for a second, she then stepped outward with first one leg, then the other, leaving me a clear view of the little line running down her crotch and disappearing up under her. We stood like that for a little bit, both of us in awe of each other before I spoke again.

      "Pauline.....," I began, "Just let me stick it in you one time...., PLEASE! Just one time, that's all."

      "I don't know....," she said cautiously, "besides, you said all I have to do is show you my thing, then you would buy me the banana split."

      "I know, I know....., but you look so pretty down there...., a-and guys who have done it before tell me that it feels REAL good when you do it. I promise I'll only stick it in and then pull it right back out...., OK?" I pleaded as I watched her let the hem of her skirt relax downward a little as she thought.

      "Well.....," she thought for a moment, looking at my cock, "I......, I guess it will be alright....., just one time though."

      "OK," I said, "I get to stick it in you all the way one time, then I'll pull it out."

      "Then you buy me the banana split," she added.

      "Then I buy you the banana split," I acknowledged. "C'mon over here to the car, we can do it in the backseat."

      She dropped her skirt back down and stood by the car door as I opened it. Then she jumped in and lay down on her back across the seat, pulling her skirt up. One leg draped off the edge of the seat, giving me my first good look at her whole, hairless little pussy slit. It started just a little ways up the front of her body and continued down all the way between her legs connecting with the crack of her ass, making one continuous line. The lips of her hairless twat were tight together, leaving no clue as to where her little hole might be.

      Slowly, I climbed in the car over her until my dick hovered right over the top of her slit. I wasn't quite sure just where it was supposed to go, so without further ado, I began poking at her slit with my dick. The first prod ran along the very top portion of her hairless slit, the head of my cock parting her lips slightly as it slid up and onto her lower belly. She giggled a little bit at this new stimulation, as the shaft of my dick slid against her preteen clit. I raised up and tried again, producing the same effect. I propped myself up with my left arm as I backed up a little and eased my dick head down her slit with my right hand. 'Where is her little cunt hole,' I thought as my cock head explored the length of her slit. Suddenly, my dick felt something slightly more moist and hotter than before. 'That must be it," I thought, as I held my dick in place and pushed slightly. Her hole was tight, and my dick glanced off and ran down between her ass cheeks.

      Again, I backed up and placed the head of my dick at the entrance to her tight, hairless hole and pushed. This time I felt the head go in slightly. As hard as my dick was, it began to bend so I backed off of the pressure a little, but keeping my dick in the same place. Once more I pushed in, and again I felt my dick slip in a little more. This time when I stopped, I felt the walls of her pussy begin to slip down around my cock, readjusting themselves to where they had formerly been. Again I pushed, and I noticed that her pussy lips seemed to go with my dick inside her. When I stopped again, I could see her slit slowly reappear as the walls of her pussy slowly slid back down my dick.

      Again I pushed, and suddenly Pauline gasped. I wasn't sure what happened, all I was sure about was that the feeling was incredible. It was like pushing my dick through layer after layer, fold after fold of hot, moist skin. Her tiny hairless hole was so tight that I could only go in a fraction of an inch at a time. Each time I pushed, her whole twat would go with me, and each time I stopped her hole would slowly ease it's way further down my dick, giving me the feeling of passing yet another fold of her inner skin.

      I could tell that Pauline was experiencing some discomfort, but she was not protesting. This was a business deal. Both of us had a bargain to keep, and she was certainly going to keep hers. After all, it wasn't very often that a kid around here got a banana split.

      I kept up my assault on her tight, hairless, virgin cunt. I had almost gotten my entire dick in her on the last push when I felt the bottom of her pussy come into contact with the head of my dick. The last push had only allowed her pussy to slip down my dick part of the distance of my thrust, and her tiny slit was just barely visible between her legs, my dick resting snugly between them.

      Well, I was all of the way in now. We looked at each other, both of us breathing heavily as I stayed inside her for a moment, relishing the feeling of my cock buried deep inside this eleven-year-old's tight, hairless pussy.

      "Pauline....," I managed to speak between gasps, "how about if I move my dick back and forth inside your pussy some? I'll still buy you a banana split!"

      She lay there with my dick inside her for a moment, panting heavily as she thought before asking hoarsely, "How many times do you want to do it?"

      I looked at her for a moment. I hadn't thought about that. How many times does it take before I can cum?

      "I dunno...," I gasped, "maybe about...., a hundred?"

      I hurried to quell the look of apprehension on her face by explaining, "A hundred times is not a lot. Hell...., I can count to a hundred in less than a minute!"

      She looked at me for a moment, then nodded in agreement as I began to slowly withdraw my dick until it was about halfway inside her. As I withdrew, the inner walls of her pussy seemed to hold onto my dick, creating an effect similar to the one when I entered her.

      Gradually I began pumping back and forth. The grip of her pussy, combined with the wetness and moisture was causing that familiar feeling deep within my loins. Her gasps became little "Ahh's" that came in time with each quickening thrust of my dick inside her.

      I don't think I needed to bargain for "about a hundred times", as the combination of the feeling of her tight hairless cunt wrapped around my dick, the feeling of her tiny body under mine, and the fact that she was looking me right in the eyes as I fucked her brought me over the edge with the most ball busting orgasm I had ever had.

      The force of my orgasm forced me to thrust completely inside of her, burying my dick to the hilt. I could feel the hard little nub of her cervix pressing against my cock head as I erupted spurt after spurt deep inside her preteen pussy. The amount of my jism was so much, and the room inside her was so little, that after I filled her preteen womb completely with my spunk, I began to feel it spurt out between my dick and the walls of her twat, running down onto my balls and between the crack of her ass.

      I had expended so much energy on my orgasm that I collapsed on top of her, my dick still buried deeply inside her. I rolled over slightly and eased my dick back out of her tiny twat, and as my cock head emerged from between her hairless pussy lips, one last spurt of pent up jism held inside my dick from the tightness of her pussy splashed across the bare lips of her slit, covering them completely.

      Our deal was done. It was late however, and the ice cream man had already gone by for the day. It was also getting on to be about supper time, so Pauline slipped out of the car and put her panties back on under her skirt, leaving my cum dripping out of that sweet hairless hole and soaking those pretty white cotton panties.

      I saw Pauline around the neigborhood a lot after that. I heard from my freinds that she eventually fucked almost every other boy in the neigborhood, but we never again got together like that, nor did we ever speak of it again. Come to think of it, I never did buy her that banana split!

    7. Re:"CRAP-Free Independant Music Labels" by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 1
      "CRAP-Free Independant Music Labels"

      Anybody else read the headline this way?

      Wishful thinking, I guess!
      Heh I'm curious if you were referring to the quality, or the price?
    8. Re:"CRAP-Free Independant Music Labels" by smittyoneeach · · Score: 2

      The title gave me a sexylaid attack as well, but you beat me to the punch...

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    9. Re:"CRAP-Free Independant Music Labels" by mobets · · Score: 1

      No, but I was wondering what a large, bony, bottom feeding fish had to do with music labels.

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    10. Re:"CRAP-Free Independant Music Labels" by glwtta · · Score: 2

      I didn't actually realize that wasn't the title until reading your post. It's late - what can I say.

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  9. Hopefully this new trend... by idfrsr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    won't fall by the wayside. It will take artists and musicians to make internet radio, and downloadable music something that we can all enjoy for a long time to come. We can huff and puff all we want, but they are ones who have to lead the charge for anything to change for the better.

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    "The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away" -Tom Waits
    1. Re:Hopefully this new trend... by telbij · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yes, but they need our money, and lots of it, otherwise they'll end up starving and turn to the record companies.

    2. Re:Hopefully this new trend... by e-gold · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I don't think it'll take lots of money to out-do what the RIAA gives musicians. What it WILL take is a new way of looking at how-to-get-paid (and how-to-pay) that can eliminate the bottleneck between artist and consumer. (Yes, as always, I have a financial interest in a certain way to do this.) It shouldn't take a giant corporation's help to let a musician ask for money (either tips, or pay-per-download) because our side doesn't have layers of management who require (as Courtney Love puts it) all those trips to "Scores."

      For an example of what I'm talking about, see www.radsfans.net (and hopefully others soon). I again offer anyone here a small click of e-gold (not much, but enough to test) so you can try it for free. I want programmers to use e-gold, so please take advantage. Thanks.
      JMR

      (I speak only for Jim Ray, nobody else wants to admit this stuff anyway.)

      --
      Try e-gold - (contact me). I'm NOT e-
    3. Re:Hopefully this new trend... by PotatoHead · · Score: 2

      Yeah, they do need our money, but not nearly as much as they need when working through the RIAA.

      What they really need is a little mainstream attention once this gets rolling. If the quality is good, the money will take care of itself.

      (I am not saying that we don't need to support them, what I am saying is that we can support them easier this way. Which is a good thing. (tm --by some smart ass.)

    4. Re:Hopefully this new trend... by grahammm · · Score: 1

      Visit Music Link and send money directly to the artist.

  10. royalties on everything? by bigsexyjoe · · Score: 1
    I don't understand do they still pay royalities if the station doesn't play their music?

    The worst part, I think is the retroactive part. Isn't that an ex post facto law?

    Well, if internet radio takes off then the RIAA will have to pay them to play their music anyway.

    1. Re:royalties on everything? by andyring · · Score: 1

      Well, you've got ClearChannel controlling what we listen to on the radio, so.....

    2. Re:royalties on everything? by enota · · Score: 1

      I agree with you that retroactive fees stink, but they are legal. Ex post facto only covers criminal laws. All other laws and ordinances can be made retroactive. (like when tax laws are changed)

  11. speaking of independents by SocietyoftheFist · · Score: 1

    How com VA seems to be the only advertiser on Slashdot? Doesn't seem to say a lot about how well the ads on slashdot are going. OK, I'm exagerating, I see a think geek ad every once in awhile too.

    1. Re:speaking of independents by Compenguin · · Score: 1

      How com VA seems to be the only advertiser on Slashdot? Doesn't seem to say a lot about how well the ads on slashdot are going. OK, I'm exagerating, I see a think geek ad every once in awhile too.

      Think Geek is owned by VA.

    2. Re:speaking of independents by SocietyoftheFist · · Score: 1

      I know... It was sarcasm, it went along with the "Doesn't seem to say a lot about how well the ads on slashdot are going"

    3. Re:speaking of independents by SocietyoftheFist · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      I guess I need to watch what I write, in place of VA think SourceForge... still waking up.

    4. Re:speaking of independents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I see lots of Google ads.

    5. Re:speaking of independents by RadioheadKid · · Score: 1

      And what about independent ideas? How long until we see a SourceForge ad based on the next big movie, what will it be Men in Black II or the Power Puff Girls...How about some original advertising...

      end rant

      --
      "Karma can only be portioned out by the cosmos." -Homer Simpson
  12. Where to buy ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    CD's from this band of independents ?

    I basically stopped buying music in the late 70's
    after Dire Strait's "Sultans of Swing" because
    it became so boring.

    Hmmm, real musicians performing real music -
    reminds me of the school reunions we organized
    in the late 70's, early eighties, with bands
    trying to imitate "Stairway to heaven" with two
    real wooden flutes !

    Go, music, go !

    Toon Moene.

    1. Re:Where to buy ... by jcsehak · · Score: 2

      I emailed him about it. Hopefully you'll see a change soon. Until then, I can give you the info for one of them--it's in my sig...

      --

      c-hack.com |
  13. another page you all should visit... by Transcendent · · Score: 5, Informative

    inetprogramming.com is a website for independent music artists... there is a very long and detailed page about the rate ruling, and links for you to send a fax to congress about making legislation to save the smaller stations as well...

    I tried putting this in an article, but got rejected, so I hope a lot of people read this and send in a fax... I don't want to loose my favorite internet radio station...

    http://inetprogramming.com/notice.html

    1. Re:another page you all should visit... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
      Horny Smurf here. Due to recent slashdot policy changes, I will be posting shit at score 0 instead of score 1. Guess you've defeated my, Jaime McCarthy!

      I was probably like any other fifteen year old when I was growing up, seemingly aways having to fight off a hard-on. Maybe it was hormones, maybe it was because I was still a virgin, but my almost daily jack-off sessions didn't seem to help much. I still wanted to experience the feeling of my dick actually plunging into some beautiful young girl's tight, wet cunt. Hell, she didn't even have to be all that beautiful!

      This feeling was driving me crazy. I HAD to have me a piece of ass soon, or I was simply gonna explode! I just couldn't keep out the thoughts of some young girl's pointed, jiggling tits slipping between my lips while my dick plowed between her moist slit.

      My imagination, summer bikinis, and dad's PENTHOUSEs helped me to fill out my favorite fantasies of what the girls in my classes looked like naked. Those vivid images of beautiful, naked young girls coming into my room looking at my dick with lust, or my plopping them down on a desk right there in school and fucking our brains out seemed to dominate my every waking moment. Hell, even my nights were filled with wet dreams of these nubile young girls offering their naked bodies to me on sight!

      The truth was I had never even seen a live naked girl since I was about seven-years-old playing doctor with a neigbor girl. Even then I didn't know what it was all about, just that my little dick got hard when I touched her bare pussy and that it felt REAL GOOD when she touched my hard dick. 'If only I new then what I know now,' I thought. Furthermore, I was much too shy to even approach a girl my age to ask for a date, much less to ask for a piece of ass or a blowjob.

      I was sitting under a tree fretting about all of this one summer day, when I was startled by the voice of a young neighbor girl who had walked up behind me.

      "What are you doing out here all by yourself?"

      Pauline was a typical eleven-year-old, her body just beginning to show the first signs of maturing into an hourglass shape, but she still was flat-chested. Her personality had definitely not matured, and I even cosidered her to be quite a brat.

      "Nothing much, just moping around," I told her.

      "What's wrong?" she asked in a soft tone, touching my knee as she sat down beside me on the ground, her small skirt riding up her smooth legs.

      I had never looked at her in a sexual way before, but the combination of my frustration and her uncharacteristic soft-spoken manner caused me to take a second look at her. She was actually a very pretty young girl, with long dark brown hair that flowed down onto her flat, preteen chest. Her innocent dark brown eyes looked deeply into mine as she pondered my troubles, and I began to get an idea on how I might exploit this budding motherly instinct of hers.

      "Well......, it's just that a lot of the other guys my age have dated girls already," I began, "some of them have even had sex."

      I paused to check her reaction. She was still sitting there looking at me intently, her knees pulled up near her chest and her arms draped around them casually leaving her skirt to gape open under her legs. I was sure that anyone passing by would be able to see her panties, but she didn't seem to be aware of her immodest pose.

      "I'm just too shy to ask anyone out, though. I guess I'll never have the guts to either."

      She sat there silently, bending her head down and resting her chin on her knees. She seemed to be in thought as she began to stare blankly at the ground in front of her, possibly wondering about her own lack of boyfriends and whether she too would ever have the experience of having sex one day.

      "Have you ever wondered what it's like to have sex?" I asked her, hoping to guide the situation into a possible encounter.

      She looked at me momentarily to see if I was sincere, or just trying to poke fun at her before answering.

      "Well...., yeah...., sometimes...., but nobody really likes me much around here. All of the boys in my class just want to play by themselves. I'll probably never have a boyfriend or anything," she said solemnly.

      "Have you ever thought about doing it with anybody around here?" I asked, pressing further.

      "EEEWWW, NO!" she said, raising her voice defensively.

      "Don't get mad, Pauline! I was just wondering." I said, trying to salvage the situation. "I wouldn't tell anybody if you had thought about it."

      After that exchange, we both sat silently for a few moments. She resumed her position of resting her head on her knees, and her skirt still left her entire bottom open below her legs. Hoping to get a better view of this sight, I stretched and yawned, feigning fatique. I then bent forward and crawled along the ground until I was stretched out on my side facing Pauline, my feet resting against the large tree. She looked at me momentarily before reaverting her gaze to the ground directly in front of her, resuming her thoughts. I waited until she looked away before looking under her legs, but when I did, I was greeted by the sight of her beautiful tanned legs disappearing into the rumpled bottom of her skirt. Between them was a bright white strip of cotton cloth, covering what I knew had to be her young twat. The tightness of the cloth stretched across her little pussy, clearly identifying just where it was by the indentation of the fabric along the slit. My dick immediately began to respond, and I quickly stuck my hand in my pocket to adjust it before it was too late, leaving it there to help hide the effect it was going to have on my pants.

      "I've thought a lot about having sex," I said, looking back up to her eyes just as she turned her gaze back to me.

      "Really? Who with?" she asked curiously.

      Now she had me on the spot. If I told her all of the girls my fantasies revolved around, it would be just like this little brat to go and tell them. As I studied her face though, I noticed a look that I had never seen before. It was as if she was trying to form a mental image of two people having sex, me being one of them and the other still left blank.

      "Well...., I don't know. You might think it's gross if I tell you. What's more, you'll probably go right off and tell them if I told you who it was," I said.

      "I won't think it's gross, and I promise I won't tell...., please....." she pleaded.

      Now I was beginning to feel I was getting somewhere. I really had her curiosity up, and I even thought that she might even be enjoying this line of conversation.

      "Well...., OK," I began. "But you gotta promise you aren't gonna tell. And it's not like I would really do it with them or anything. I've just thought about it, OK?"

      "OK, sure!" she replied, just a tinge of excitement in her voice.

      "Um..., well..., you know Kathleen Fent? I've thought about doing it with her." I said.

      "Oh," she replied, sounding slightly disappointed.

      "Yeah, she's fat and ugly, and has buck teeth... but I hear she's a major slut!" I said, hoping to get Pauline's gears going.

      Pauline raised up, resting her chin on her hands, her elbows on her knees. She shifted her feet out from her body, keeping her thighs together. Her little feet were pointed inward slightly, giving her a very little girlish look. Her gaze seemed to be far off now as she thought about what I had said.

      My eyes returned to that magic spot between her legs momentarily, as I pondered how to word my next sentence.

      "Who else have you thought about?" she asked in a faraway tone.

      "Well...., if you promise you won't think it's gross.....," I said, pausing for a response.

      "No..., no, I don't think it's gross!" she said, looking back at me with pleading eyes.

      "Well...., I'm kinda embarrased to tell you who else I was thinking about," I said teasingly.

      "Aw, c'mon....., I promise I won't tell!" she begged.

      "Well...., you really won't have to...., 'cause...., I kinda have been thinkin' about doin' it with you," I said softly, not really lying about it now.

      A look of complete surprise came over her face as her head raised from its resting place slightly and her hands came apart. Her mouth gaped open as she took in what I had just said and I noticed a distinct deep red blush spread across her face.

      "Larry...!" she exclaimed, not really knowing what to say next.

      "Y-y-you've really..... thought about...., y'know..., having sex..... with me?!" she asked in disbelief.

      "Well....yeah," I said, more confidently. "You're a pretty girl, and even though you don't really have any tits yet, you still have a nice body."

      She blushed again, instinctively reaching down and wrapping her skirt around her legs, drawing them together and hunching over to rest her chin on her knees once more. It was obvious that she had been flattered about my remarks, but at the same time she was totally caught off guard with the thought of someone wanting to have sex with her. I could see her playing out the scene in her mind as she sat there, rocking back and forth slightly.

      A long, pregnant pause elapsed before anyone said anything again. It was me who initiated the next question.

      "Well..., what do you think?" I asked her. "Do you think you would want to have sex with somebody like me?"

      "NO!" she exclaimed. "I couldn't....., I mean....., I'm only eleven-years-old. I shouldn't be doing stuff like that. And besides, you're fifteen!"

      "So, I know some girls who did it when they were nine- years-old," I lied.

      "Oh yeah....., who?" she demanded. "Well...

      ., I promised I wouldn't tell. And promises are promises," I said, trying to get myself out of that one.

      Pauline thought for a moment before saying, "Well...., I dunno....., I just don't think I better do anything like that."

      "OK, OK......, but if you COULD do it, do you think you would do it with somebody like me?" I asked, trying to keep on the topic.

      "Well...., I dunno," she said blushing. "I...., I guess so."

      I just smiled back at her, "Thanks, Pauline. I needed to hear that!"

      She looked back at me, and an embarrased smile flashed across her face as she had to look away. I wasn't through with her yet, however. I just HAD to get something out of all of this. My dick was pressing against my pants with one of the most raging hard-ons I had ever had. I had noticed Pauline looking down at my crotch a couple of times as we had talked about doing it, but I wasn't sure if she saw anything as my hand was still in my pocket, paritally hiding the tent-like effect my dick was having on my pants.

      I waited a few more moments before starting again, "You know...., I don't even know what a naked girl looks like."

      "What about your sister, haven't you seen her naked before?" she asked.

      "Well....yeah. But that was a long time ago, when she was just a little baby. Besides, it's not the same when you see your sister, especially when she's only one-year-old."

      I continued to look at Pauline. She was all balled up, and refused to look at me when we weren't talking. I had decided that I just had to at least see her bare little pussy, even if she wasn't gonna let me fuck her. At least I would have something to go whack off with for a while.

      "What about you...., would you let me see you naked?" I asked hesitantly. "I'll let you see me naked."

      "I..., I don't know. I better not," her voice showing her uncertainty.

      "Aw, c'mon Pauline," I begged. "I'll probably never get to see a naked girl until I get married...., if I ever DO get married."

      "I-I don't know, Larry." she said nervously.

      I could tell she was actually considering it, but she still would have rather I hadn't asked. Even so, the thought of seeing a naked boy probably for the first time intriqued her.

      "I'll make it worth your while," I went on. "I'll buy you an banana split when the ice cream man comes by."

      She paused for a moment, biting her upper lip as she contemplated my proposal. The agony of the moment was almost unbearable for me.

      Finally, she spoke, " Well....OK...."

      I almost leaped for joy inside, but I kept my cool on the outside. At least as much cool as I could considering my state of excitement.

      "But you've got to promise that you'll not touch me. And you've got to promise not to tell ANYBODY. And you still have to buy me the banana split." she rattled on.

      "OK, OK," I interupted, "I promise, I promise."

      "C'mon, let's go to my grandpa's barn where nobody will see us," I said, grabbing her by the hand and rushing her away before she had a chance to change her mind.

      Grandpa's barn was way off in a field by itself, surrounded by a few old oak trees on the sides and back. He used it mainly to store hay for his cows, and hardly ever came there during the summer. He also kept an old Studebaker out there, and that is where Pauline and I stopped to carry out our deal.

      "You go first," I told her.

      "Can't we both just go at the same time?" she asked.

      "Well...., yeah..., sure," I said almost reluctantly, not wanting to miss one second of her bare pussy being exposed.

      "Remember, you can't touch, and you've got to buy me that banana split," she said.

      "I know, Pauline. You don't have to keep reminding me," I said, as I unzipped my pants and she pulled her panties down under her skirt.

      I quickly shucked my cut-offs down, exposing my underwear and the large bulge sticking out into it. Pauline had bent over to pull her panties down to about her ankles, then stood up, stepping out of them with her left foot and flipping them off with her right. As she stood, she became transfixed by the sight of my bulging underwear.

      Knowing that her pussy was naked under her skirt, and that I was about to see it seemed to make my dick even harder than ever. What's more, knowing that my naked cock was going to be so close to a naked pussy, and me not getting to at least stick it in was more than I could bear. I just had to have more than just a look. My mind raced over what I could say to coax her into letting me at least try to stick it in her as we both slowly began to expose our sex to each other.

      I bent over as I slowly lifted the waistband of my underwear over my pulsing cockhead, sliding them down my legs. My face was about a foot and a half from Pauline's crotch, as she slowly lifted her skirt. The hem slowly inched it's way up, and just as I saw the first signs of a tiny hairless slit she stopped.

      "Well, stand up so I can see it. We've got to do it together," she demanded.

      Reluctanly I stood up, my hard dick pointing up at her face at about a 45 degree angle. Pauline gasped as she looked at it bobbing slightly in front of her.

      "OK, Pauline, take your skirt off," I said impatiently.

      "I'm just going to lift it up so you can see it, I don't want to take it off," she replied.

      I was at the point where I didn't care, just so long as I could see her whole pussy. Quickly she jerked her skirt up over her waist to expose my first full view of a live girl's pussy. It was so beautiful, just a tiny little hairless slit laying there between her closed legs. I marveled at the smooth folds of skin, and the lack of anything else around them.

      "Spread your legs a little bit, Pauline. I can't really see anything yet," I asked, my voice almost choking in my throat.

      Pausing for a second, she then stepped outward with first one leg, then the other, leaving me a clear view of the little line running down her crotch and disappearing up under her. We stood like that for a little bit, both of us in awe of each other before I spoke again.

      "Pauline.....," I began, "Just let me stick it in you one time...., PLEASE! Just one time, that's all."

      "I don't know....," she said cautiously, "besides, you said all I have to do is show you my thing, then you would buy me the banana split."

      "I know, I know....., but you look so pretty down there...., a-and guys who have done it before tell me that it feels REAL good when you do it. I promise I'll only stick it in and then pull it right back out...., OK?" I pleaded as I watched her let the hem of her skirt relax downward a little as she thought.

      "Well.....," she thought for a moment, looking at my cock, "I......, I guess it will be alright....., just one time though."

      "OK," I said, "I get to stick it in you all the way one time, then I'll pull it out."

      "Then you buy me the banana split," she added.

      "Then I buy you the banana split," I acknowledged. "C'mon over here to the car, we can do it in the backseat."

      She dropped her skirt back down and stood by the car door as I opened it. Then she jumped in and lay down on her back across the seat, pulling her skirt up. One leg draped off the edge of the seat, giving me my first good look at her whole, hairless little pussy slit. It started just a little ways up the front of her body and continued down all the way between her legs connecting with the crack of her ass, making one continuous line. The lips of her hairless twat were tight together, leaving no clue as to where her little hole might be.

      Slowly, I climbed in the car over her until my dick hovered right over the top of her slit. I wasn't quite sure just where it was supposed to go, so without further ado, I began poking at her slit with my dick. The first prod ran along the very top portion of her hairless slit, the head of my cock parting her lips slightly as it slid up and onto her lower belly. She giggled a little bit at this new stimulation, as the shaft of my dick slid against her preteen clit. I raised up and tried again, producing the same effect. I propped myself up with my left arm as I backed up a little and eased my dick head down her slit with my right hand. 'Where is her little cunt hole,' I thought as my cock head explored the length of her slit. Suddenly, my dick felt something slightly more moist and hotter than before. 'That must be it," I thought, as I held my dick in place and pushed slightly. Her hole was tight, and my dick glanced off and ran down between her ass cheeks.

      Again, I backed up and placed the head of my dick at the entrance to her tight, hairless hole and pushed. This time I felt the head go in slightly. As hard as my dick was, it began to bend so I backed off of the pressure a little, but keeping my dick in the same place. Once more I pushed in, and again I felt my dick slip in a little more. This time when I stopped, I felt the walls of her pussy begin to slip down around my cock, readjusting themselves to where they had formerly been. Again I pushed, and I noticed that her pussy lips seemed to go with my dick inside her. When I stopped again, I could see her slit slowly reappear as the walls of her pussy slowly slid back down my dick.

      Again I pushed, and suddenly Pauline gasped. I wasn't sure what happened, all I was sure about was that the feeling was incredible. It was like pushing my dick through layer after layer, fold after fold of hot, moist skin. Her tiny hairless hole was so tight that I could only go in a fraction of an inch at a time. Each time I pushed, her whole twat would go with me, and each time I stopped her hole would slowly ease it's way further down my dick, giving me the feeling of passing yet another fold of her inner skin.

      I could tell that Pauline was experiencing some discomfort, but she was not protesting. This was a business deal. Both of us had a bargain to keep, and she was certainly going to keep hers. After all, it wasn't very often that a kid around here got a banana split.

      I kept up my assault on her tight, hairless, virgin cunt. I had almost gotten my entire dick in her on the last push when I felt the bottom of her pussy come into contact with the head of my dick. The last push had only allowed her pussy to slip down my dick part of the distance of my thrust, and her tiny slit was just barely visible between her legs, my dick resting snugly between them.

      Well, I was all of the way in now. We looked at each other, both of us breathing heavily as I stayed inside her for a moment, relishing the feeling of my cock buried deep inside this eleven-year-old's tight, hairless pussy.

      "Pauline....," I managed to speak between gasps, "how about if I move my dick back and forth inside your pussy some? I'll still buy you a banana split!"

      She lay there with my dick inside her for a moment, panting heavily as she thought before asking hoarsely, "How many times do you want to do it?"

      I looked at her for a moment. I hadn't thought about that. How many times does it take before I can cum?

      "I dunno...," I gasped, "maybe about...., a hundred?"

      I hurried to quell the look of apprehension on her face by explaining, "A hundred times is not a lot. Hell...., I can count to a hundred in less than a minute!"

      She looked at me for a moment, then nodded in agreement as I began to slowly withdraw my dick until it was about halfway inside her. As I withdrew, the inner walls of her pussy seemed to hold onto my dick, creating an effect similar to the one when I entered her.

      Gradually I began pumping back and forth. The grip of her pussy, combined with the wetness and moisture was causing that familiar feeling deep within my loins. Her gasps became little "Ahh's" that came in time with each quickening thrust of my dick inside her.

      I don't think I needed to bargain for "about a hundred times", as the combination of the feeling of her tight hairless cunt wrapped around my dick, the feeling of her tiny body under mine, and the fact that she was looking me right in the eyes as I fucked her brought me over the edge with the most ball busting orgasm I had ever had.

      The force of my orgasm forced me to thrust completely inside of her, burying my dick to the hilt. I could feel the hard little nub of her cervix pressing against my cock head as I erupted spurt after spurt deep inside her preteen pussy. The amount of my jism was so much, and the room inside her was so little, that after I filled her preteen womb completely with my spunk, I began to feel it spurt out between my dick and the walls of her twat, running down onto my balls and between the crack of her ass.

      I had expended so much energy on my orgasm that I collapsed on top of her, my dick still buried deeply inside her. I rolled over slightly and eased my dick back out of her tiny twat, and as my cock head emerged from between her hairless pussy lips, one last spurt of pent up jism held inside my dick from the tightness of her pussy splashed across the bare lips of her slit, covering them completely.

      Our deal was done. It was late however, and the ice cream man had already gone by for the day. It was also getting on to be about supper time, so Pauline slipped out of the car and put her panties back on under her skirt, leaving my cum dripping out of that sweet hairless hole and soaking those pretty white cotton panties.

      I saw Pauline around the neigborhood a lot after that. I heard from my freinds that she eventually fucked almost every other boy in the neigborhood, but we never again got together like that, nor did we ever speak of it again. Come to think of it, I never did buy her that banana split!

  14. Can anyone recommend some internet radio stations? by bigsexyjoe · · Score: 1

    What the subject says. I mostly like rock and metal. I presently find new bands by watching a public access show that plays metal videos. Interestingly enough, the host is even bigger and sexier than me.

  15. Re:Can anyone recommend some internet radio statio by idfrsr · · Score: 1

    I am currently using: live365.

    There tons of differents genres to listen too.

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    "The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away" -Tom Waits
  16. "Crap-Free Independent Music Labels" by 1010011010 · · Score: 1, Redundant


    I think that Crap-Free Independent Music Labels would be a good idea.

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    Napster-to-go says "Fill and refill your compatible MP3 player", which is a lie. It's not MP3. It's WMA with DRM.
    1. Re:"Crap-Free Independent Music Labels" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If only there were some...

  17. Just added my band by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just added Dreamscapes Of The Perverse... I'm setting up an account here, be prepared to see another band (soon to be reallly famous :) ) make statements against the RIAA.

    Ron

  18. Aerosol Hair Remover by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    There was this commercial on for aerosol hair remover. Like, this spray that you would spray onto your hairy bits and shazam! they're not hairy anymore.

    Wild.

  19. Riaa Rep too answer questions on zeropaid.com by Ender77 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    From Zeropaid.com webside:

    Got a Question for Hilary?

    A representative of the RIAA has agreed to take some time out of their hectic court schedule and answer a few of our questions. Don't miss out on a chance to voice your opinion!

    1. Re:Riaa Rep too answer questions on zeropaid.com by Call+it+a+night · · Score: -1, Troll
      I got one for her. Hey, Hil baby, we still on for that three-way with Fritz tonight? Call me.

      The artist formerly known as Jack Va1enti, whose account is a casualty of rate limiting.

    2. Re:Riaa Rep too answer questions on zeropaid.com by AntiNorm · · Score: 2

      Click here to access this thread on Zeropaid.

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      I pledge allegiance to the flag...
      of the Corporate States of America...
  20. I wonder if mchawking is going to join... by The+Creator · · Score: 1
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    FRA: STFU GTFO
  21. Darn... by breon.halling · · Score: 0, Redundant

    I got my hopes up! I thought the article was titled "Crap-Free Independent Music Labels. =)

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    "Yeah, well, Dracula called and he's coming over tonight for you and I said okay."
    1. Re:Darn... by mofolotopo · · Score: 1

      That would be Matador. It's the closest I know of. Then again, Ninja Tune and Luaka Bop ain't bad either.

  22. RIAA Membership List by abischof · · Score: 5, Informative

    There's also the RIAA Membership List, which can serve as a good starting-point for labels to avoid.

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    Alex Bischoff
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    1. Re:RIAA Membership List by blitziod · · Score: 1

      you notice 4ad, epitath and project are a few of the "indie" lables that are on that list. Too bad I like bands on those labels. I also noted that alternative tentacles(jello biafra's label) was absent. WAY TO GO JELLO!

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      The only way to bust a doper--is when you yourself become a smoker!
    2. Re:RIAA Membership List by thales · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Boycotting the RIAA means more than just not buying CDs. If you download music that is availble on RIAA labels all you are going to do is make yourselves look like a bunch of deadbeats that are too cheap to pay for entertainment. A Boycott involves having NOTHING to do with the RIAA. Don't buy it. Don't download it. Don't make it availble for downloading. Don't attend the concerts.

      Write to the bands and tell them you are Boycotting RIAA labels and the reasons WHY, and urge them to sign with a non RIAA label. Leave Boycott messages on bands fan site message boards.

      Extend the Boycott. If a company has non-music bussiness Boycott that too. Don't buy that Sony monitor, or TV or PS2. Don't go see that AOL/Time Warner movie. Drop AOL in the unlikely event a slashdotter is using the service. Don't watch AOL/TW stations on TV. If a company hires an artist that is signed to an RIAA label as a ad spokesman, write them and let them know you won't be purchasing their products.

      Include the MPAA in the Boycott too.

      You have a big advantage. The RIAA and the MPAA deal in a non vital product, entertainment. You won't die of music hunger or movie thirst if you boycott their products. Use it.

      Don't worry about the artists being hurt in a boycott either. Are they worried that the RIAA's ploys are going to hurt you? Are they speaking out against copyright extensions and attempts to narrow the scope of fair use? If they aren't, why should you give a shit about them?

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      Quemadmodum gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum est
    3. Re:RIAA Membership List by The_Great_Satan · · Score: 1

      I boycott the RIAA, but I don't think boycotting is enough. I've added the statement "I boycott the RIAA" to all my .sigs in the various forums I post in. I use the no RIAA icon wherever I have the option for an avatar. I've put a banner at the top of my website which states "I boycott the RIAA" and links to a personal statement about the RIAA.

      I'd like to see this practice spread to the extent that no RIAA or big 5 employee could go to any forum or non-corporate website on the net and not see an anti-RIAA statement. I'm sure that's wishful thinking on my part, but if anyone wants to help make this happen you can get the banner I made from my site (www.shizit.net/alpha) or go to boycott-riaa.com where they have several other (less aggressive) banners available.

    4. Re:RIAA Membership List by startled · · Score: 2

      Agreed. I've seen far too many people justify copyright infringement by saying they hate the RIAA, or the RIAA charges too much. Those are pretty poor arguments. The best way to stand up to them is to find alternatives; taking the easy way out and downloading RIAA tracks doesn't help develop viable alternatives.

      I haven't purchased, downloaded, or otherwise attempted to acquire RIAA music in some time now. And it doesn't hurt a bit.

    5. Re:RIAA Membership List by glrotate · · Score: 1
      Ever look at Limbuagh and think he looks like one of those guys that likes to lay naked in a tub while other guys piss.

      You fantasize about Limbaugh. You're one sick fuck.

    6. Re:RIAA Membership List by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      if you like the band, but don't want to support
      the label, pirate the CD from someone,
      and send em some money directly

    7. Re:RIAA Membership List by aronc · · Score: 1

      Don't worry about the artists being hurt in a boycott either. Are they worried that the RIAA's ploys are going to hurt you? Are they speaking out against copyright extensions and attempts to narrow the scope of fair use? If they aren't, why should you give a shit about them?


      Actually, many if not most of them probably don't know anything about the above at all. They are professional artists. For the most part they spend their time creating and performing their artform (as well they should if they ever hope to get out of debt w/ their labels). They don't deal with business well or with law well. That is why the labels are there to begin with. Many artists are surprised after the fact when they start running into the walls their contracts have put up around them. Joan Osborn is a good example. Her label killed her career. She spent years working produced a full album worth of material. Label rejected it. She made _another_ album worth. They rejected that too. Then she found out that not only did none of that music count towards finishing her contract requierments she could release it anywhere else either.

      The RIAA is raping it's artists as badly as they are the fans. They are stuck too. If they want to have a hope of exposure to more than a few thousand people the RIAA is the only game in town.

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      jello.
      aka aron.
    8. Re:RIAA Membership List by thales · · Score: 2
      Didn't I mention writing to the Artists and informing them of the Boycott? Once they start getting letters from their fans they might realize what the RIAA is doing, instead of hearing BS about how the RIAA is protecting them from the "evil music pirates"

      In my life I've seen artists involved in every cause from Viet Nam to Pop Ecology to Aids concerts. Don't tell me they have no time for causes. Inform them about the Boycott. Destroying the RIAA is certainly in their intrest. After they are informed of what the RIAA is doing to the fans, along their knowledge of what the RIAA is doing to them, if they still want to kiss RIAA butt, well I have no reason to worry about their fate.

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      Quemadmodum gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum est
  23. OT: karma by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Where did the karma count go? It doesn't give a number anymore!

    1. Re:OT: karma by Call+it+a+night · · Score: -1, Troll

      They've hidden the karma and rate limited the posts. These and editor moderation have eliminated the last pretention to free speech here, and turned Slashdot into a GLORIOUS FASCIST STATE! HEIL TACO!

    2. Re:OT: karma by acceleriter · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Speaking of editor moderation, I just got slapped 10 points in the forbidden thread and a related one. Working my way to "Terrible" pretty quickly :)

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      CEE5210S The signal SIGHUP was received.

  24. First rate limited post! by Call+it+a+night · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Suck it down.

  25. Interesting observation by mofolotopo · · Score: 1

    The list in question was pretty much a Folk monoculture until the link was posted on /. Lots of different styles there at the bottom of the list.

    1. Re:Interesting observation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      Penis?

    2. Re:Interesting observation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No thanks.

  26. Re:Can anyone recommend some internet radio statio by FatRatBastard · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I broadcast on live365 (a damn good service I must say) but even those poor buggers have gotten the shaft by CARP. Their solution has been to levy a $5 monthly fee across the entire live365 lineup. I must say I can't blame them, they're trying to spread the hurt around as evenly as possible, but it does mean that you can't run a CARP free feed thru them without handing money over to the RIAA.

    I fear that this is what the RIAA wanted. Personally, I think CARP blows, but if the RIAA want to shoot themselves in the foot by all means they should be able to. But it looks like they'll be able to essentially shoot down any big time non-CARP radio feeds by simply being the 800lb gorilla in the music biz.

    Who (in terms of a large, easy to use broadcaster like live365) are going to run the risk of not paying CARP fees for everything and run the risk of the RIAA coming down on them like a tonne of brinks is a CARP free stream broadcasts a CARP covered song by accident?

  27. Second rate limited post. by Call+it+a+night · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Gobble on this.

  28. Third rate limited post. by Call+it+a+night · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Drink it all down!

  29. Rate limited post number 4! by Call+it+a+night · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Mmmm, eat it all up!

  30. Who's for a fifth rate limited post? by Call+it+a+night · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    That would be me!

  31. Rate limiting works great! by Call+it+a+night · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    You sure showed those trolls, didn't you Taco. Better hide the extra parts for the servers before the repo man comes.

  32. carpflooding, eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I told you , damnit!

    Stop looking at this!

  33. If you really want to help... by antirename · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Hang out at live shows if you want to support your local unsigned bands. A lot of them are really quite good. Then, when you're buying their CD if you liked the music (this is about supporting the musician, remember) suggest CARP-free web radio. Leave them a card with a link to information, maybe your e-mail address (a lot of them will have mailing lists, questions, etc). I've mentioned mp3 archive sites and streaming audio to several guys here; none of them have done it yet but all of them were at least thinking about it. The local small time musicians know the problems in the industry a lot better than the geeks do, but geeks can at least make suggestions :)

  34. Re:Can anyone recommend some internet radio statio by klingens · · Score: 1
    You can listen to a non-US radio station. European broadcasters have no CARP (yet).

    There are public radiostations in Germany and Austria which are funded by mandatory fees from the citizens of these countries which also broadcast over the net.

  35. support? by SirRichardPumpaloaf · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I think I'll support musicians who make music that I like, even if their politics aren't always in lockstep with Slashdot. Is that okay?

    1. Re:support? by acceleriter · · Score: 1

      No, that's not OK. Turn in your /. ID at the door.

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      CEE5210S The signal SIGHUP was received.

    2. Re:support? by robkill · · Score: 2

      Hey, in my case at least, there are several artists on that list whom I like, so it's easy. The point is simply to encourage artists to stand for something that is in their best interest. It's about preserving a chance to be heard, so it's easier for people to discover artists they've never heard of, but might like.

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      DMCA - Chilling free speech since 1998.
  36. An Association Named Sue by jcsehak · · Score: 2

    For those who haven't heard it, check out my recording "An Association Named Sue," based on this post by Yo Grark. It's all free, so it's not like I'm being a marketing jackass here.

    I've also added a gif of an old pirate flag modified to reflect today's concerns. I think it'd make a great t-shirt, but I'm too busy with other stuff. Feel free to do whatever you want with it.

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    c-hack.com |
  37. Sounds good, but ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting
    I got turned off radio and most commercial music as much as 15 ago. I am a big fan of independent music as an alternative to the god-awful crap that the "music" industry has been force-feeding the general public for so many years. In the last few years the Internet has become a vehicle for me to find good independent artists (mostly via promotional sites like IUMA, etc., and the artists' own web sites) that I would never have found by conventional means. This has allowed me to rediscover some of the pleasure of good music. So, I would love to see Internet broadcasters pay far more attention to independent artists and build an alternative system (some of you may remember alternative radio before it was commoditized), where quality of content, not corporate dollars and monopolization, dictate what is played.

    Having said that, I am very troubled by the following possible scenario:

    What's to stop the RIAA Cartel, Clear-Channel and its ilk from sitting by quietly and letting others experiment, invent and grow a system and then, if it starts to take off, using their billions to buy/muscle their way in and take over? That is, use a very effective part of the Microsoft R&D model - let some one else spend the money to invent and innovate and then buy them/take them over or stomp them out of existence. Then we end up with the same mess or a worse mess than radio is in today on another medium. And, since (I believe that) Internet broadcasting is essentially an unregulated medium, it is probably ripe for widespread payola and other abuses.

  38. Yes, non-native fish can be a problem by Jonathan · · Score: 5, Funny

    Many of you may have heard about the problems that the (Asian) northern snakehead fish are causing in Maryland. What you may not know is that carp are also non-native to North America, but were introduced from the Old World in the 19th century. Therefore, I am glad that there is going to be carp free music labels. There are many native fish species that deserve to be supported instead.

    1. Re:Yes, non-native fish can be a problem by WetCat · · Score: 1

      I think Bass is native american fish. (Correct me if I am wrong and replace Bass with more american fish if you like :)
      What about "Bass" label on music CDs as a symbol of its free distribution?

    2. Re:Yes, non-native fish can be a problem by Jonathan · · Score: 2

      I think Bass is native american fish. (Correct me if I am wrong and replace Bass with more american fish if you like :)

      There are indeed native bass in North America.

      What about "Bass" label on music CDs as a symbol of its free distribution?

      An interesting idea. One thing that is either positive or negative according your point of view is that bass are carnivores while carp are vegetarians.

  39. Speaking of radio... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Why does Slashdot have a radio section? The most recent story in it was June 29th... 2001! Over a year with no activity. Time to close up shop perhaps?

  40. Our Fight, Not Necessarily the Artists' by donnacha · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I hope more artists sign up for this.

    Hell, I don't want my favorite artists distracting themselves with this business bullshit, unless being a fighter is part of what they already are, like Ani diFranco or Courtney Love. Life is too short, time too scarce for the few genuinely talented artists we have to go running off on tangents.

    This is a battle that we, the consumers, should be fighting. If we decide, en masse, not to play the RIAA's game, what the Hell can they do.

    Can I suggest that PeerCast (as discussed on /. earlier) is a very good place to start.

    And, remember, if we really want to stop these bastards shagging us, we must always remember that our participation in P2P has to be about growing a new, fairer system, not just getting our hands on free stuff.

  41. Golfer vrs. Boxer by SweetAndSourJesus · · Score: -1

    Amon Tobin - Golfer vrs. Boxer

    <instrumental>

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    the strongest word is still the word "free"
  42. Absolutely by Evil+MarNuke · · Score: 1

    Maybe they made a type-o.

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    The journey is better then the end.
  43. CARP-free? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Redundant

    I'd rather have CRAP-free music labels. I would gladly play $0.02/song for music that didn't suck I go around the channels on Atlanta radio stations and they're all playing crap, and it's not even varied crap, its all the SAME CRAP>>>>!

  44. Re:OT: karma QWZX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Man, nothing makes me laugh harder than watching the trolls whine and cry whenever their "rights" are taken away.

    Keep up the good work!

    OK, that's enough praise from me. Get your ass back to work entertaining me.

  45. Re:Can anyone recommend some internet radio statio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sure I run one through Live365 that features indies from Chicago. I am looking for more artists and more listeners.

    See www.goonsquadradio.com

  46. Re:Can anyone recommend some internet radio statio by blitziod · · Score: 1

    well on live 365 only the cheaper acounts pay the 5 bucks. The others for larger broadcasters actuallyhave to pay the real CARP fee. Of course the 75 $ a month broadcasters can also sell thier own ad space and not play live 365 ads. Live365.com only pays CARP royalties on songs by artists signed up with carp. If you have a NON CARP radio station, then that station does not create any CARP royalties. They will still have to pay the 5 bucks though. The 5 bucks does not cover the CARP royalties on many stations, just offset the cost. PLEASE if you have a nn CARP station, advertise it as such...hell SPAM it..this is one type of spam i would be GLAD to get in my MB.

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    The only way to bust a doper--is when you yourself become a smoker!
  47. Yeah... by Greyfox · · Score: 1
    But I've eliminated a lot of crap from my music listening experience by simply tuning out of the Clearchannel stations. Unfortunately the only ones they don't own in my area are NPR stations. Hmm. Better not give them any ideas...

    I was hoping that internet radio would give me a way out of this Clearchannel owned Hell, but CARP pretty much shot down any hope of that. There are a lot of good indie artists though, so maybe this means there will still be some hope...

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    I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?

    1. Re:Yeah... by bitchslapboy · · Score: -1

      Clear Channel just plays the same stuff that any other radio station would play. Don't diss them. Blame the RIAA for failing to develop good pop music.

      --

      Slashdot - contra bonos mores
  48. You know what the problem... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    ...with the music industry is?
    NIGGERS! God damned, mother fucking niggers!

    The world won't be at peace until the last filthy nigger is gone from this world!

  49. The "crappy product" issue by RabeiUsura · · Score: 1

    There is a good point in the article... THE ORIGINAL IS ALWAYS BETTER THAN THE COPY.. the problem is when there is people who doesn't really care about cool artwork, cool boxes or anything... they just want to hear the song, this people will always be copying without buying anything.. So IMHO the real problem is that there is a market segment (people that want music with crappy presentation at a low price) that is copying because the industry doesn't satisfy their quality-price needs... Well my final comment is that there always be a cheap bastard that will copy everything just because he can... but they will burn in hell anyway...

    1. Re:The "crappy product" issue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um, hi. Yes, you. Please learn to use proper English.
      You only make yourself look like a stupid twat when you speak like a damn foreigner.

  50. Doubt you're alone by martissimo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I mean, you can read endless boycott the MPAA rants here on a regular basis, yet when Star Wars, Spidey, LOTR, etc come out you can also read these same people's takes on the plot twists, and how good they are.

    I'm sure there are a few hardcore people who stand behind the principle of thoose boycotts they propose... but even here where most people are far more involved with their views about the **AA than is mainstream, i doubt a huge difference is actually made.

    Personally i just do as you do, i saw SW-EP2 in the theatre, i have a pre-ordered copy of LOTR DVD at Amazon which will ship in August, same with the new Dave Matthews CD pre-order.

    I despise the crazy bills that the **AA trys to get passed to inhibit our abilities to use a computer as we see fit, yet I still purchase the rare bits of appealing (too me, at least if you just wanna reply to criticize my tastes thats fine, but frankly i may think the same about your taste if so) stuff they put out.

    And I know i'm not alone, when there is something out there I want... I get it. I'm no Gandhi, I will not starve myself (so to speak) to make a point, guess i'm just weak, but so be it.

    1. Re:Doubt you're alone by PotatoHead · · Score: 2

      Me too.

      This got really long. If you are interested in hearing an alternative view regarding how to deal with the whole media struggle, read on, else skip....

      For most of us, they are going to get something out of us. Nobody wants to forgo interesting media in the hopes that the diminished revenue will make things change. It is not going to happen.

      I think the secret really is to exercise choice when you have it, and make them provide value to you when you buy. I believe there are a lot of people out there just sucking down whatever comes through their pipe without really thinking about it. These people are easy targets --true consumers. Life is short, we should make the
      best of it.

      Here are some of the choices I have made.

      Killed the Sat Tv system. (Will really miss HBO and their Sopranos series though.) Why won't these turkeys just sell me HBO without the 150 crap channels? I could wait a year, and get it on DVD, but I am not sure that is worth it yet.

      Put up a nice Antenna. Too bad the additional FM I get with it is not worth a damn.

      Purchased a DVD player. And use the money normally spent on the SAT to purchase programming I can watch at my leisure. This is a good value really if you can ignore some of the DVD annoyances.

      Ditched commercial radio totally. If I want something live, I check out the college stations, AM, or OPB. Programming is spotty, but there are good things to be had.

      Quit buying POP CD's unless they are very good ones. Never purchase any music without either a recommendation from a trusted friend, or a sample.

      Speaking of samples, I get them from listening booths, if they have good choices in there, kazaa of course, lending and trading other peoples media, and mp3 swapping. It is damn nice to just mail over a track to someone and be able to have a constructive conversation about it on our time, not theirs.

      For times when I am outside, or with friends, I bought one of those little FM transmitter things from Ramsey electronics. They will easily go 1000 feet or more. Any music source I own can be easily used around my home with current equipment.

      Spent more time outside. This is a biggie. You have no idea what you are missing until you start doing it. Coaching kid sports has been great as well.

      Know the feeling you get at the end of a particularly good movie? It's nothing compared to the end of a winning season, or close game. And there is no license required!

      I get news via internet, in favor of magazine and newspaper subscriptions. I still look them over on the news stand, and will buy one if it is worthy. (Not many are right now.)

      Started shopping for clothes with *no* logo on them.

      Take advantage of used media when it makes sense. Why buy twice? If someone makes a bad call, that can be my gain, not the **AAs gain.

      Let the kids sample music via peer to peer.

      Spent a lot of time surfing with the kids. Tossed out forever the idea of censorware. Who else is going to help them understand the net and what it can do for them?

      Told all my friends and neighbors what I am doing and why it matters.

      Here are some of the results so far:

      Kids are way more active. They actually consider going to bed on time, and are doing better in school thanks to their increased ability to use the net and their increased overall energy level they have from using their bodies instead of wasting them.

      Buying the DVDs has been interesting. The collection is pretty large now. You never know how much you really spend monthly on subscription programming services until you use it for something like this.

      So, taking that collection and sharing it among friends has been well worth it. Many of them are beginning to do the same thing. Because our tastes are different, I get to sample for free, things that I would have missed, or would have paid for via some subscription. Bet the **AA really hates that.

      Made some new friends via the kid sports thing. So far I have had two really good summers. That is worth something now. Will likely be worth more as my kids grow up and share memories and hopefully get their kids to do the same things.

      Feel better now on a daily basis. Getting out and making the best of your life relieves a lot of stress.

      Since I spend a lot less time soaking up mind-candy, I have had to find other things to do with my time. Writing (I did not say writing well though --ha!), getting back into programming, coaching, working on the house, are all things that took too much time before I started this whole thing.

      So, does this make a difference? I think it does. Maybe not in the shorter term, but in the longer term making active choices matters, and they will make a difference.

      I believe one of the right ways to deal with the **AA is to make them compete with life --specifically yours. They have a *lot* of power right now because they consume a large portion of many of our lives. Why exactly do we do this?

      They make it easy not to choose.

      They make things avaliable in ways that consume your time. This is not a bad thing, but the current structure often dictates you dedicate parts of your time that you really should be spending on other things.

      They make you wonder about how good things could be if only... Bullshit.

      You know life is really better than you think, and they spend a lot of time selling you pictures of an alternate one that looks better, but lacks the depth your own life has right now.

      If more of us put them in their proper place and started acting like customers instead of consumers, they would likely have a much different attitude in a few years.

      Just my .02

    2. Re:Doubt you're alone by HiThere · · Score: 2

      There are, indeed, many hipocrites. That doesn't mean that you should join them. I prefer not to patronize the RIAA membership, but for some reason, they don't publicize who they are. A purported list of them can be found at a site called "boycott riaa", but I don't know how trustworthy that site is. (It looks reasonable, but ...)

      And I don't even have a purported list of the MPAA membership. That should be a lot easier, as there are many fewer movie studios. But I don't know of one.

      So how am I supposed to know which studios are members? For some reason they don't proclaim their membership.

      --

      I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
  51. personally... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    While there is quite a bit of commercial music I enjoy, I can honestly say that my greatest musical experiences have been sitting down with a couple of friends and just jamming.

    I honestly could care less what the music industry does, I'm always going to be able to sit around with friends and play.

    Humanity has been doing it for centuries - if you've never done it, try it out you may be pleasantly surprised.

  52. Statuatory License Free Music is coming by mbone · · Score: 2, Informative

    There has been much discussion on the various webcaster lists about going "DMCA-free" - technically, to forgo the DMCA statuatory license. It's coming, thanks to the idiocy of the situation.

    The SaveInternetRadio group and the International Webcasters Association have a lot more information about the situation. Good stations such as SOMA-FM have been forced from the air, and more are likely to fold.

    However, there is a lot of good music out there that can be freely streamed. Some Internet stations, such as OntheI.com channel 2, have always played freely availabled music, as has MP3.com. It is important to remember that these stations are free of the CARP and DMCA restrictions and payments, much like open-source software is free of licensing restrictions.

    I look for a new ecosystem to arise, akin to the open source movement, with music licensed freely to all, with returns coming from the sale of artifacts (DVD's, t-shirts, etc.), and concert tickets.

    1. Re:Statuatory License Free Music is coming by crosbie · · Score: 1
      I look for a new ecosystem to arise, akin to the open source movement, with music licensed freely to all, with returns coming from the sale of artifacts (DVD's, t-shirts, etc.), and concert tickets.
      Here's what you're looking for: The Digital Art Auction
  53. Damn right. by sulli · · Score: 2
    Hopefully the labels used by SomaFM and others can sign up to this, and then we can get our Groove Salad back!

    (p.s. CARP is still crap. I sent this fax just now, you can too.)

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    sulli
    RTFJ.
  54. Roger McGuinn: Free net.Music since 1995 by pjones · · Score: 1
    Roger McGuinn, founder of the Byrds, has been giving away music on the net at the rate of one song per month since November 1995 at his Folk Den. There you'll find a variety of styles and genres (folk, cowboy, celtic, blues, etc) as well as historic recordings like Roger playing John Henry" in a 1959 recording.

    Roger also testified before Congress in 2000 about the devious ways of the music industry and in support of MP3s and net.music.

    This has been rewarded too. Roger's CD, Treasures from the Folk Den, was a Grammy Nominee for "Best Traditional Folk Album" this year.

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    Certified Black Helicopter Pilot *** Unwitting Dupe of One World Gov'ment
  55. -1, resubmit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You call this journalism?
    Good god, man. Can't you even write a decent MLP?
    This tripe wouldn't last five minutes at that other site.
    But I forgot, Slashdot editors don't have standards. S'cuse me.

  56. You know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    I'm glad taco has stopped the trools.

    I mean the trols.

    I mean the tralls.

    I mean... aw, fuck it. Here's a goatse link. Please click it, it'll make you feel all special.

  57. Not terribly timely by pato+perez · · Score: 1

    The article is dated April 2002 and the deadline for responses is 20 May.

  58. GOATSE!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    GOAT SEX LINK!

    Do not click!!!

  59. It's good a business move by puckhead · · Score: 1

    In fact it's probably the only business move most of these artists have available to them. The major labels are not going to foot the payola bill to get them on broadcast radio so the best chance they have of selling any music anywhere but off the card table at their shows is on the Internet.

    I buy music I hear learn about on Net radio. Even if 99% of the listeners don't, it's still an increase in sales.

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    Watching Cowboy Bebop in my jammies, eating a bowl of Shreddies.
  60. Jews run MPAA, RIAA, Hollywood, Network TV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    Have you ever noticed how the Jews are at the forefront of those trying to restrict our rights:
    • Rosen
    • Coble
    • Berman
    • Eisner
    • Redstone
    The Jews never create anything. They are the parasites who wedge themselves between the the producer and the consumer. The Jew takes a slice of every pie that passes by. What the Jew hates is that the Internet is cutting him off from his host. The artists can now distribute directly to their fans. The Internet has made the Jew irrelevant. So the Jew tries to buy the politician to do his bidding. The Jew tries to get bought politicians to pass bogus regulations in order to maintain Jew hegemony over the consumer.
  61. [on by] A modest proposal by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    It seems that the Janitors, in their infinite wisdom, have banned people who have low/negative karma from posting more than twice per day. Personally I find this completely stupid.

    All the trolls will simply post AC as I am doing now. Proxies can be used to get around any ipid bans that result from AC trolls.

    Surely it is better to let the trolls post at -1 where it is out of most peoples way rather than have them all post at 0 and suck up mod points and time from "legit" users?

    I have tried to communicate my thoughts to the slashcode team but alas, to no avail. They are probably all sittin on their starwars bed sheets watching anime hentai tentacle rape pr0n.

    Here is my proposal: All trolls that cannot post using their account post as AC. Use proxies if need be (www.antiproxy.com is a good source). I suspect this will show them how useless this idea is. Will blocking troll uid's stop trolls? NO! will ipid bans stop trolls? NO!

    I seriously fail to see the point of this and consider it a stupid move by the janitors.

    They want us to troll and crapflood at 0 rather than -1? Fine! So be it! No longer will we post at -1 where few people dare to visit, now we will post at 0 where we will be more visible and waste peoples time, energy and mod points! Hoorah!

    The next thing you know, posting AC will be banned! Then what will you do? No more posting interesting insider tidbits! Groupthink all the way baby! oh yeah!

    So logout, post shit, use proxies and above all have fun!

    Let the games begin! -- on by

    - poopbot: because even your grandmother can use lunix

  62. Re:OT: karma QWZX by bitchslapboy · · Score: -1

    Our rights are just as important as anybody elses. If you claim to be for free speech, then be for free speech. Don't censor people for unpopular views. Limiting the number of postings does just that.

    --

    Slashdot - contra bonos mores
  63. Re:OT: karma QWZX by acceleriter · · Score: 1
    Ha ha. I didn't say anything about "rights." It's about being what you claim. And /. claims to be a site in which the rating of posts is done by users. I doubt you'd see the trolls "whining" if the editors just owned up to the fact that they do what they damn well please, ban users, down-mod posts, whatever. But they pretend that they tie their own hands.

    Hope you find this entertaining.

    --

    CEE5210S The signal SIGHUP was received.

  64. Re:OT: karma QWZX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Dude, this is not a government. There is no such thing as "free speech" on a private web site. It's Taco's freaking web site, and he can sensor whoever he wants.

    And yes, it's NOT hypocritical to be a strong proponent of government free speech, and an absolute dictator against crap speech on your own, private web site. Your free speech rights do NOT guarantee you a forum for your crap. If you don't like, make your own web site. No one is stopping you.

    And yes, your rights are worth less than other's rights, because you don't contribute anything. Trolls don't get moderated down for "unpopular views", they get moderated down for being annoying.

    I think Taco is amazingly tolerant of the idiots on this site. If it were my site, I'd delete all the crap postings.

  65. Re:OT: karma QWZX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    /. claims to be a site in which the rating of posts is done by users.

    Please find me a reference that claims that posts are rated ONLY by users.

    I doubt you'd see the trolls "whining" if the editors just owned up to the fact that they do what they damn well please, ban users, down-mod posts, whatever.

    1) Please show me where they deny this.

    2) Please tell exactly why Taco et all shouldn't do as they "damn well please" considering it's their site, and represents what THEY want to talk about. If they think something is off-topic, then BY DEFINITION it's off-topic. The reason Slashdot is good is exactly this reason: Taco rules with an iron hand, and prevents it from turning into a garbage heap where the lunatics run the asylum.

    Hope you find this entertaining.

    Note quite as entertaining as "Heil Taco", but it's still pretty amusing watching how upset people get when Taco actually manages his own site.

  66. CARP FLOUNDERSON FREE !!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    what a stupid pun ! plus the lame leech off of a free post to boot

  67. My first lay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    Horny Smurf here. Due to recent slashdot policy changes, I will be posting shit at score 0 instead of score -1. Guess you've defeated me, Jaime McCarthy!

    I was probably like any other fifteen year old when I was growing up, seemingly aways having to fight off a hard-on. Maybe it was hormones, maybe it was because I was still a virgin, but my almost daily jack-off sessions didn't seem to help much. I still wanted to experience the feeling of my dick actually plunging into some beautiful young girl's tight, wet cunt. Hell, she didn't even have to be all that beautiful!

    This feeling was driving me crazy. I HAD to have me a piece of ass soon, or I was simply gonna explode! I just couldn't keep out the thoughts of some young girl's pointed, jiggling tits slipping between my lips while my dick plowed between her moist slit.

    My imagination, summer bikinis, and dad's PENTHOUSEs helped me to fill out my favorite fantasies of what the girls in my classes looked like naked. Those vivid images of beautiful, naked young girls coming into my room looking at my dick with lust, or my plopping them down on a desk right there in school and fucking our brains out seemed to dominate my every waking moment. Hell, even my nights were filled with wet dreams of these nubile young girls offering their naked bodies to me on sight!

    The truth was I had never even seen a live naked girl since I was about seven-years-old playing doctor with a neigbor girl. Even then I didn't know what it was all about, just that my little dick got hard when I touched her bare pussy and that it felt REAL GOOD when she touched my hard dick. 'If only I new then what I know now,' I thought. Furthermore, I was much too shy to even approach a girl my age to ask for a date, much less to ask for a piece of ass or a blowjob.

    I was sitting under a tree fretting about all of this one summer day, when I was startled by the voice of a young neighbor girl who had walked up behind me.

    "What are you doing out here all by yourself?"

    Pauline was a typical eleven-year-old, her body just beginning to show the first signs of maturing into an hourglass shape, but she still was flat-chested. Her personality had definitely not matured, and I even cosidered her to be quite a brat.

    "Nothing much, just moping around," I told her.

    "What's wrong?" she asked in a soft tone, touching my knee as she sat down beside me on the ground, her small skirt riding up her smooth legs.

    I had never looked at her in a sexual way before, but the combination of my frustration and her uncharacteristic soft-spoken manner caused me to take a second look at her. She was actually a very pretty young girl, with long dark brown hair that flowed down onto her flat, preteen chest. Her innocent dark brown eyes looked deeply into mine as she pondered my troubles, and I began to get an idea on how I might exploit this budding motherly instinct of hers.

    "Well......, it's just that a lot of the other guys my age have dated girls already," I began, "some of them have even had sex."

    I paused to check her reaction. She was still sitting there looking at me intently, her knees pulled up near her chest and her arms draped around them casually leaving her skirt to gape open under her legs. I was sure that anyone passing by would be able to see her panties, but she didn't seem to be aware of her immodest pose.

    "I'm just too shy to ask anyone out, though. I guess I'll never have the guts to either."

    She sat there silently, bending her head down and resting her chin on her knees. She seemed to be in thought as she began to stare blankly at the ground in front of her, possibly wondering about her own lack of boyfriends and whether she too would ever have the experience of having sex one day.

    "Have you ever wondered what it's like to have sex?" I asked her, hoping to guide the situation into a possible encounter.

    She looked at me momentarily to see if I was sincere, or just trying to poke fun at her before answering.

    "Well...., yeah...., sometimes...., but nobody really likes me much around here. All of the boys in my class just want to play by themselves. I'll probably never have a boyfriend or anything," she said solemnly.

    "Have you ever thought about doing it with anybody around here?" I asked, pressing further.

    "EEEWWW, NO!" she said, raising her voice defensively.

    "Don't get mad, Pauline! I was just wondering." I said, trying to salvage the situation. "I wouldn't tell anybody if you had thought about it."

    After that exchange, we both sat silently for a few moments. She resumed her position of resting her head on her knees, and her skirt still left her entire bottom open below her legs. Hoping to get a better view of this sight, I stretched and yawned, feigning fatique. I then bent forward and crawled along the ground until I was stretched out on my side facing Pauline, my feet resting against the large tree. She looked at me momentarily before reaverting her gaze to the ground directly in front of her, resuming her thoughts. I waited until she looked away before looking under her legs, but when I did, I was greeted by the sight of her beautiful tanned legs disappearing into the rumpled bottom of her skirt. Between them was a bright white strip of cotton cloth, covering what I knew had to be her young twat. The tightness of the cloth stretched across her little pussy, clearly identifying just where it was by the indentation of the fabric along the slit. My dick immediately began to respond, and I quickly stuck my hand in my pocket to adjust it before it was too late, leaving it there to help hide the effect it was going to have on my pants.

    "I've thought a lot about having sex," I said, looking back up to her eyes just as she turned her gaze back to me.

    "Really? Who with?" she asked curiously.

    Now she had me on the spot. If I told her all of the girls my fantasies revolved around, it would be just like this little brat to go and tell them. As I studied her face though, I noticed a look that I had never seen before. It was as if she was trying to form a mental image of two people having sex, me being one of them and the other still left blank.

    "Well...., I don't know. You might think it's gross if I tell you. What's more, you'll probably go right off and tell them if I told you who it was," I said.

    "I won't think it's gross, and I promise I won't tell...., please....." she pleaded.

    Now I was beginning to feel I was getting somewhere. I really had her curiosity up, and I even thought that she might even be enjoying this line of conversation.

    "Well...., OK," I began. "But you gotta promise you aren't gonna tell. And it's not like I would really do it with them or anything. I've just thought about it, OK?"

    "OK, sure!" she replied, just a tinge of excitement in her voice.

    "Um..., well..., you know Kathleen Fent? I've thought about doing it with her." I said.

    "Oh," she replied, sounding slightly disappointed.

    "Yeah, she's fat and ugly, and has buck teeth... but I hear she's a major slut!" I said, hoping to get Pauline's gears going.

    Pauline raised up, resting her chin on her hands, her elbows on her knees. She shifted her feet out from her body, keeping her thighs together. Her little feet were pointed inward slightly, giving her a very little girlish look. Her gaze seemed to be far off now as she thought about what I had said.

    My eyes returned to that magic spot between her legs momentarily, as I pondered how to word my next sentence.

    "Who else have you thought about?" she asked in a faraway tone.

    "Well...., if you promise you won't think it's gross.....," I said, pausing for a response.

    "No..., no, I don't think it's gross!" she said, looking back at me with pleading eyes.

    "Well...., I'm kinda embarrased to tell you who else I was thinking about," I said teasingly.

    "Aw, c'mon....., I promise I won't tell!" she begged.

    "Well...., you really won't have to...., 'cause...., I kinda have been thinkin' about doin' it with you," I said softly, not really lying about it now.

    A look of complete surprise came over her face as her head raised from its resting place slightly and her hands came apart. Her mouth gaped open as she took in what I had just said and I noticed a distinct deep red blush spread across her face.

    "Larry...!" she exclaimed, not really knowing what to say next.

    "Y-y-you've really..... thought about...., y'know..., having sex..... with me?!" she asked in disbelief.

    "Well....yeah," I said, more confidently. "You're a pretty girl, and even though you don't really have any tits yet, you still have a nice body."

    She blushed again, instinctively reaching down and wrapping her skirt around her legs, drawing them together and hunching over to rest her chin on her knees once more. It was obvious that she had been flattered about my remarks, but at the same time she was totally caught off guard with the thought of someone wanting to have sex with her. I could see her playing out the scene in her mind as she sat there, rocking back and forth slightly.

    A long, pregnant pause elapsed before anyone said anything again. It was me who initiated the next question.

    "Well..., what do you think?" I asked her. "Do you think you would want to have sex with somebody like me?"

    "NO!" she exclaimed. "I couldn't....., I mean....., I'm only eleven-years-old. I shouldn't be doing stuff like that. And besides, you're fifteen!"

    "So, I know some girls who did it when they were nine- years-old," I lied.

    "Oh yeah....., who?" she demanded. "Well...

    ., I promised I wouldn't tell. And promises are promises," I said, trying to get myself out of that one.

    Pauline thought for a moment before saying, "Well...., I dunno....., I just don't think I better do anything like that."

    "OK, OK......, but if you COULD do it, do you think you would do it with somebody like me?" I asked, trying to keep on the topic.

    "Well...., I dunno," she said blushing. "I...., I guess so."

    I just smiled back at her, "Thanks, Pauline. I needed to hear that!"

    She looked back at me, and an embarrased smile flashed across her face as she had to look away. I wasn't through with her yet, however. I just HAD to get something out of all of this. My dick was pressing against my pants with one of the most raging hard-ons I had ever had. I had noticed Pauline looking down at my crotch a couple of times as we had talked about doing it, but I wasn't sure if she saw anything as my hand was still in my pocket, paritally hiding the tent-like effect my dick was having on my pants.

    I waited a few more moments before starting again, "You know...., I don't even know what a naked girl looks like."

    "What about your sister, haven't you seen her naked before?" she asked.

    "Well....yeah. But that was a long time ago, when she was just a little baby. Besides, it's not the same when you see your sister, especially when she's only one-year-old."

    I continued to look at Pauline. She was all balled up, and refused to look at me when we weren't talking. I had decided that I just had to at least see her bare little pussy, even if she wasn't gonna let me fuck her. At least I would have something to go whack off with for a while.

    "What about you...., would you let me see you naked?" I asked hesitantly. "I'll let you see me naked."

    "I..., I don't know. I better not," her voice showing her uncertainty.

    "Aw, c'mon Pauline," I begged. "I'll probably never get to see a naked girl until I get married...., if I ever DO get married."

    "I-I don't know, Larry." she said nervously.

    I could tell she was actually considering it, but she still would have rather I hadn't asked. Even so, the thought of seeing a naked boy probably for the first time intriqued her.

    "I'll make it worth your while," I went on. "I'll buy you an banana split when the ice cream man comes by."

    She paused for a moment, biting her upper lip as she contemplated my proposal. The agony of the moment was almost unbearable for me.

    Finally, she spoke, " Well....OK...."

    I almost leaped for joy inside, but I kept my cool on the outside. At least as much cool as I could considering my state of excitement.

    "But you've got to promise that you'll not touch me. And you've got to promise not to tell ANYBODY. And you still have to buy me the banana split." she rattled on.

    "OK, OK," I interupted, "I promise, I promise."

    "C'mon, let's go to my grandpa's barn where nobody will see us," I said, grabbing her by the hand and rushing her away before she had a chance to change her mind.

    Grandpa's barn was way off in a field by itself, surrounded by a few old oak trees on the sides and back. He used it mainly to store hay for his cows, and hardly ever came there during the summer. He also kept an old Studebaker out there, and that is where Pauline and I stopped to carry out our deal.

    "You go first," I told her.

    "Can't we both just go at the same time?" she asked.

    "Well...., yeah..., sure," I said almost reluctantly, not wanting to miss one second of her bare pussy being exposed.

    "Remember, you can't touch, and you've got to buy me that banana split," she said.

    "I know, Pauline. You don't have to keep reminding me," I said, as I unzipped my pants and she pulled her panties down under her skirt.

    I quickly shucked my cut-offs down, exposing my underwear and the large bulge sticking out into it. Pauline had bent over to pull her panties down to about her ankles, then stood up, stepping out of them with her left foot and flipping them off with her right. As she stood, she became transfixed by the sight of my bulging underwear.

    Knowing that her pussy was naked under her skirt, and that I was about to see it seemed to make my dick even harder than ever. What's more, knowing that my naked cock was going to be so close to a naked pussy, and me not getting to at least stick it in was more than I could bear. I just had to have more than just a look. My mind raced over what I could say to coax her into letting me at least try to stick it in her as we both slowly began to expose our sex to each other.

    I bent over as I slowly lifted the waistband of my underwear over my pulsing cockhead, sliding them down my legs. My face was about a foot and a half from Pauline's crotch, as she slowly lifted her skirt. The hem slowly inched it's way up, and just as I saw the first signs of a tiny hairless slit she stopped.

    "Well, stand up so I can see it. We've got to do it together," she demanded.

    Reluctanly I stood up, my hard dick pointing up at her face at about a 45 degree angle. Pauline gasped as she looked at it bobbing slightly in front of her.

    "OK, Pauline, take your skirt off," I said impatiently.

    "I'm just going to lift it up so you can see it, I don't want to take it off," she replied.

    I was at the point where I didn't care, just so long as I could see her whole pussy. Quickly she jerked her skirt up over her waist to expose my first full view of a live girl's pussy. It was so beautiful, just a tiny little hairless slit laying there between her closed legs. I marveled at the smooth folds of skin, and the lack of anything else around them.

    "Spread your legs a little bit, Pauline. I can't really see anything yet," I asked, my voice almost choking in my throat.

    Pausing for a second, she then stepped outward with first one leg, then the other, leaving me a clear view of the little line running down her crotch and disappearing up under her. We stood like that for a little bit, both of us in awe of each other before I spoke again.

    "Pauline.....," I began, "Just let me stick it in you one time...., PLEASE! Just one time, that's all."

    "I don't know....," she said cautiously, "besides, you said all I have to do is show you my thing, then you would buy me the banana split."

    "I know, I know....., but you look so pretty down there...., a-and guys who have done it before tell me that it feels REAL good when you do it. I promise I'll only stick it in and then pull it right back out...., OK?" I pleaded as I watched her let the hem of her skirt relax downward a little as she thought.

    "Well.....," she thought for a moment, looking at my cock, "I......, I guess it will be alright....., just one time though."

    "OK," I said, "I get to stick it in you all the way one time, then I'll pull it out."

    "Then you buy me the banana split," she added.

    "Then I buy you the banana split," I acknowledged. "C'mon over here to the car, we can do it in the backseat."

    She dropped her skirt back down and stood by the car door as I opened it. Then she jumped in and lay down on her back across the seat, pulling her skirt up. One leg draped off the edge of the seat, giving me my first good look at her whole, hairless little pussy slit. It started just a little ways up the front of her body and continued down all the way between her legs connecting with the crack of her ass, making one continuous line. The lips of her hairless twat were tight together, leaving no clue as to where her little hole might be.

    Slowly, I climbed in the car over her until my dick hovered right over the top of her slit. I wasn't quite sure just where it was supposed to go, so without further ado, I began poking at her slit with my dick. The first prod ran along the very top portion of her hairless slit, the head of my cock parting her lips slightly as it slid up and onto her lower belly. She giggled a little bit at this new stimulation, as the shaft of my dick slid against her preteen clit. I raised up and tried again, producing the same effect. I propped myself up with my left arm as I backed up a little and eased my dick head down her slit with my right hand. 'Where is her little cunt hole,' I thought as my cock head explored the length of her slit. Suddenly, my dick felt something slightly more moist and hotter than before. 'That must be it," I thought, as I held my dick in place and pushed slightly. Her hole was tight, and my dick glanced off and ran down between her ass cheeks.

    Again, I backed up and placed the head of my dick at the entrance to her tight, hairless hole and pushed. This time I felt the head go in slightly. As hard as my dick was, it began to bend so I backed off of the pressure a little, but keeping my dick in the same place. Once more I pushed in, and again I felt my dick slip in a little more. This time when I stopped, I felt the walls of her pussy begin to slip down around my cock, readjusting themselves to where they had formerly been. Again I pushed, and I noticed that her pussy lips seemed to go with my dick inside her. When I stopped again, I could see her slit slowly reappear as the walls of her pussy slowly slid back down my dick.

    Again I pushed, and suddenly Pauline gasped. I wasn't sure what happened, all I was sure about was that the feeling was incredible. It was like pushing my dick through layer after layer, fold after fold of hot, moist skin. Her tiny hairless hole was so tight that I could only go in a fraction of an inch at a time. Each time I pushed, her whole twat would go with me, and each time I stopped her hole would slowly ease it's way further down my dick, giving me the feeling of passing yet another fold of her inner skin.

    I could tell that Pauline was experiencing some discomfort, but she was not protesting. This was a business deal. Both of us had a bargain to keep, and she was certainly going to keep hers. After all, it wasn't very often that a kid around here got a banana split.

    I kept up my assault on her tight, hairless, virgin cunt. I had almost gotten my entire dick in her on the last push when I felt the bottom of her pussy come into contact with the head of my dick. The last push had only allowed her pussy to slip down my dick part of the distance of my thrust, and her tiny slit was just barely visible between her legs, my dick resting snugly between them.

    Well, I was all of the way in now. We looked at each other, both of us breathing heavily as I stayed inside her for a moment, relishing the feeling of my cock buried deep inside this eleven-year-old's tight, hairless pussy.

    "Pauline....," I managed to speak between gasps, "how about if I move my dick back and forth inside your pussy some? I'll still buy you a banana split!"

    She lay there with my dick inside her for a moment, panting heavily as she thought before asking hoarsely, "How many times do you want to do it?"

    I looked at her for a moment. I hadn't thought about that. How many times does it take before I can cum?

    "I dunno...," I gasped, "maybe about...., a hundred?"

    I hurried to quell the look of apprehension on her face by explaining, "A hundred times is not a lot. Hell...., I can count to a hundred in less than a minute!"

    She looked at me for a moment, then nodded in agreement as I began to slowly withdraw my dick until it was about halfway inside her. As I withdrew, the inner walls of her pussy seemed to hold onto my dick, creating an effect similar to the one when I entered her.

    Gradually I began pumping back and forth. The grip of her pussy, combined with the wetness and moisture was causing that familiar feeling deep within my loins. Her gasps became little "Ahh's" that came in time with each quickening thrust of my dick inside her.

    I don't think I needed to bargain for "about a hundred times", as the combination of the feeling of her tight hairless cunt wrapped around my dick, the feeling of her tiny body under mine, and the fact that she was looking me right in the eyes as I fucked her brought me over the edge with the most ball busting orgasm I had ever had.

    The force of my orgasm forced me to thrust completely inside of her, burying my dick to the hilt. I could feel the hard little nub of her cervix pressing against my cock head as I erupted spurt after spurt deep inside her preteen pussy. The amount of my jism was so much, and the room inside her was so little, that after I filled her preteen womb completely with my spunk, I began to feel it spurt out between my dick and the walls of her twat, running down onto my balls and between the crack of her ass.

    I had expended so much energy on my orgasm that I collapsed on top of her, my dick still buried deeply inside her. I rolled over slightly and eased my dick back out of her tiny twat, and as my cock head emerged from between her hairless pussy lips, one last spurt of pent up jism held inside my dick from the tightness of her pussy splashed across the bare lips of her slit, covering them completely.

    Our deal was done. It was late however, and the ice cream man had already gone by for the day. It was also getting on to be about supper time, so Pauline slipped out of the car and put her panties back on under her skirt, leaving my cum dripping out of that sweet hairless hole and soaking those pretty white cotton panties.

    I saw Pauline around the neigborhood a lot after that. I heard from my freinds that she eventually fucked almost every other boy in the neigborhood, but we never again got together like that, nor did we ever speak of it again. Come to think of it, I never did buy her that banana split!

  68. My first crap flood by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Horny Smurf here. Due to recent slashdot policy changes, I will be posting shit at score 0 instead of score -1. Guess you've defeated me, Jaime McCarthy!

    I was probably like any other fifteen year old when I was growing up, seemingly aways having to fight off a hard-on. Maybe it was hormones, maybe it was because I was still a virgin, but my almost daily jack-off sessions didn't seem to help much. I still wanted to experience the feeling of my dick actually plunging into some beautiful young girl's tight, wet cunt. Hell, she didn't even have to be all that beautiful!

    This feeling was driving me crazy. I HAD to have me a piece of ass soon, or I was simply gonna explode! I just couldn't keep out the thoughts of some young girl's pointed, jiggling tits slipping between my lips while my dick plowed between her moist slit.

    My imagination, summer bikinis, and dad's PENTHOUSEs helped me to fill out my favorite fantasies of what the girls in my classes looked like naked. Those vivid images of beautiful, naked young girls coming into my room looking at my dick with lust, or my plopping them down on a desk right there in school and fucking our brains out seemed to dominate my every waking moment. Hell, even my nights were filled with wet dreams of these nubile young girls offering their naked bodies to me on sight!

    The truth was I had never even seen a live naked girl since I was about seven-years-old playing doctor with a neigbor girl. Even then I didn't know what it was all about, just that my little dick got hard when I touched her bare pussy and that it felt REAL GOOD when she touched my hard dick. 'If only I new then what I know now,' I thought. Furthermore, I was much too shy to even approach a girl my age to ask for a date, much less to ask for a piece of ass or a blowjob.

    I was sitting under a tree fretting about all of this one summer day, when I was startled by the voice of a young neighbor girl who had walked up behind me.

    "What are you doing out here all by yourself?"

    Pauline was a typical eleven-year-old, her body just beginning to show the first signs of maturing into an hourglass shape, but she still was flat-chested. Her personality had definitely not matured, and I even cosidered her to be quite a brat.

    "Nothing much, just moping around," I told her.

    "What's wrong?" she asked in a soft tone, touching my knee as she sat down beside me on the ground, her small skirt riding up her smooth legs.

    I had never looked at her in a sexual way before, but the combination of my frustration and her uncharacteristic soft-spoken manner caused me to take a second look at her. She was actually a very pretty young girl, with long dark brown hair that flowed down onto her flat, preteen chest. Her innocent dark brown eyes looked deeply into mine as she pondered my troubles, and I began to get an idea on how I might exploit this budding motherly instinct of hers.

    "Well......, it's just that a lot of the other guys my age have dated girls already," I began, "some of them have even had sex."

    I paused to check her reaction. She was still sitting there looking at me intently, her knees pulled up near her chest and her arms draped around them casually leaving her skirt to gape open under her legs. I was sure that anyone passing by would be able to see her panties, but she didn't seem to be aware of her immodest pose.

    "I'm just too shy to ask anyone out, though. I guess I'll never have the guts to either."

    She sat there silently, bending her head down and resting her chin on her knees. She seemed to be in thought as she began to stare blankly at the ground in front of her, possibly wondering about her own lack of boyfriends and whether she too would ever have the experience of having sex one day.

    "Have you ever wondered what it's like to have sex?" I asked her, hoping to guide the situation into a possible encounter.

    She looked at me momentarily to see if I was sincere, or just trying to poke fun at her before answering.

    "Well...., yeah...., sometimes...., but nobody really likes me much around here. All of the boys in my class just want to play by themselves. I'll probably never have a boyfriend or anything," she said solemnly.

    "Have you ever thought about doing it with anybody around here?" I asked, pressing further.

    "EEEWWW, NO!" she said, raising her voice defensively.

    "Don't get mad, Pauline! I was just wondering." I said, trying to salvage the situation. "I wouldn't tell anybody if you had thought about it."

    After that exchange, we both sat silently for a few moments. She resumed her position of resting her head on her knees, and her skirt still left her entire bottom open below her legs. Hoping to get a better view of this sight, I stretched and yawned, feigning fatique. I then bent forward and crawled along the ground until I was stretched out on my side facing Pauline, my feet resting against the large tree. She looked at me momentarily before reaverting her gaze to the ground directly in front of her, resuming her thoughts. I waited until she looked away before looking under her legs, but when I did, I was greeted by the sight of her beautiful tanned legs disappearing into the rumpled bottom of her skirt. Between them was a bright white strip of cotton cloth, covering what I knew had to be her young twat. The tightness of the cloth stretched across her little pussy, clearly identifying just where it was by the indentation of the fabric along the slit. My dick immediately began to respond, and I quickly stuck my hand in my pocket to adjust it before it was too late, leaving it there to help hide the effect it was going to have on my pants.

    "I've thought a lot about having sex," I said, looking back up to her eyes just as she turned her gaze back to me.

    "Really? Who with?" she asked curiously.

    Now she had me on the spot. If I told her all of the girls my fantasies revolved around, it would be just like this little brat to go and tell them. As I studied her face though, I noticed a look that I had never seen before. It was as if she was trying to form a mental image of two people having sex, me being one of them and the other still left blank.

    "Well...., I don't know. You might think it's gross if I tell you. What's more, you'll probably go right off and tell them if I told you who it was," I said.

    "I won't think it's gross, and I promise I won't tell...., please....." she pleaded.

    Now I was beginning to feel I was getting somewhere. I really had her curiosity up, and I even thought that she might even be enjoying this line of conversation.

    "Well...., OK," I began. "But you gotta promise you aren't gonna tell. And it's not like I would really do it with them or anything. I've just thought about it, OK?"

    "OK, sure!" she replied, just a tinge of excitement in her voice.

    "Um..., well..., you know Kathleen Fent? I've thought about doing it with her." I said.

    "Oh," she replied, sounding slightly disappointed.

    "Yeah, she's fat and ugly, and has buck teeth... but I hear she's a major slut!" I said, hoping to get Pauline's gears going.

    Pauline raised up, resting her chin on her hands, her elbows on her knees. She shifted her feet out from her body, keeping her thighs together. Her little feet were pointed inward slightly, giving her a very little girlish look. Her gaze seemed to be far off now as she thought about what I had said.

    My eyes returned to that magic spot between her legs momentarily, as I pondered how to word my next sentence.

    "Who else have you thought about?" she asked in a faraway tone.

    "Well...., if you promise you won't think it's gross.....," I said, pausing for a response.

    "No..., no, I don't think it's gross!" she said, looking back at me with pleading eyes.

    "Well...., I'm kinda embarrased to tell you who else I was thinking about," I said teasingly.

    "Aw, c'mon....., I promise I won't tell!" she begged.

    "Well...., you really won't have to...., 'cause...., I kinda have been thinkin' about doin' it with you," I said softly, not really lying about it now.

    A look of complete surprise came over her face as her head raised from its resting place slightly and her hands came apart. Her mouth gaped open as she took in what I had just said and I noticed a distinct deep red blush spread across her face.

    "Larry...!" she exclaimed, not really knowing what to say next.

    "Y-y-you've really..... thought about...., y'know..., having sex..... with me?!" she asked in disbelief.

    "Well....yeah," I said, more confidently. "You're a pretty girl, and even though you don't really have any tits yet, you still have a nice body."

    She blushed again, instinctively reaching down and wrapping her skirt around her legs, drawing them together and hunching over to rest her chin on her knees once more. It was obvious that she had been flattered about my remarks, but at the same time she was totally caught off guard with the thought of someone wanting to have sex with her. I could see her playing out the scene in her mind as she sat there, rocking back and forth slightly.

    A long, pregnant pause elapsed before anyone said anything again. It was me who initiated the next question.

    "Well..., what do you think?" I asked her. "Do you think you would want to have sex with somebody like me?"

    "NO!" she exclaimed. "I couldn't....., I mean....., I'm only eleven-years-old. I shouldn't be doing stuff like that. And besides, you're fifteen!"

    "So, I know some girls who did it when they were nine- years-old," I lied.

    "Oh yeah....., who?" she demanded. "Well...

    ., I promised I wouldn't tell. And promises are promises," I said, trying to get myself out of that one.

    Pauline thought for a moment before saying, "Well...., I dunno....., I just don't think I better do anything like that."

    "OK, OK......, but if you COULD do it, do you think you would do it with somebody like me?" I asked, trying to keep on the topic.

    "Well...., I dunno," she said blushing. "I...., I guess so."

    I just smiled back at her, "Thanks, Pauline. I needed to hear that!"

    She looked back at me, and an embarrased smile flashed across her face as she had to look away. I wasn't through with her yet, however. I just HAD to get something out of all of this. My dick was pressing against my pants with one of the most raging hard-ons I had ever had. I had noticed Pauline looking down at my crotch a couple of times as we had talked about doing it, but I wasn't sure if she saw anything as my hand was still in my pocket, paritally hiding the tent-like effect my dick was having on my pants.

    I waited a few more moments before starting again, "You know...., I don't even know what a naked girl looks like."

    "What about your sister, haven't you seen her naked before?" she asked.

    "Well....yeah. But that was a long time ago, when she was just a little baby. Besides, it's not the same when you see your sister, especially when she's only one-year-old."

    I continued to look at Pauline. She was all balled up, and refused to look at me when we weren't talking. I had decided that I just had to at least see her bare little pussy, even if she wasn't gonna let me fuck her. At least I would have something to go whack off with for a while.

    "What about you...., would you let me see you naked?" I asked hesitantly. "I'll let you see me naked."

    "I..., I don't know. I better not," her voice showing her uncertainty.

    "Aw, c'mon Pauline," I begged. "I'll probably never get to see a naked girl until I get married...., if I ever DO get married."

    "I-I don't know, Larry." she said nervously.

    I could tell she was actually considering it, but she still would have rather I hadn't asked. Even so, the thought of seeing a naked boy probably for the first time intriqued her.

    "I'll make it worth your while," I went on. "I'll buy you an banana split when the ice cream man comes by."

    She paused for a moment, biting her upper lip as she contemplated my proposal. The agony of the moment was almost unbearable for me.

    Finally, she spoke, " Well....OK...."

    I almost leaped for joy inside, but I kept my cool on the outside. At least as much cool as I could considering my state of excitement.

    "But you've got to promise that you'll not touch me. And you've got to promise not to tell ANYBODY. And you still have to buy me the banana split." she rattled on.

    "OK, OK," I interupted, "I promise, I promise."

    "C'mon, let's go to my grandpa's barn where nobody will see us," I said, grabbing her by the hand and rushing her away before she had a chance to change her mind.

    Grandpa's barn was way off in a field by itself, surrounded by a few old oak trees on the sides and back. He used it mainly to store hay for his cows, and hardly ever came there during the summer. He also kept an old Studebaker out there, and that is where Pauline and I stopped to carry out our deal.

    "You go first," I told her.

    "Can't we both just go at the same time?" she asked.

    "Well...., yeah..., sure," I said almost reluctantly, not wanting to miss one second of her bare pussy being exposed.

    "Remember, you can't touch, and you've got to buy me that banana split," she said.

    "I know, Pauline. You don't have to keep reminding me," I said, as I unzipped my pants and she pulled her panties down under her skirt.

    I quickly shucked my cut-offs down, exposing my underwear and the large bulge sticking out into it. Pauline had bent over to pull her panties down to about her ankles, then stood up, stepping out of them with her left foot and flipping them off with her right. As she stood, she became transfixed by the sight of my bulging underwear.

    Knowing that her pussy was naked under her skirt, and that I was about to see it seemed to make my dick even harder than ever. What's more, knowing that my naked cock was going to be so close to a naked pussy, and me not getting to at least stick it in was more than I could bear. I just had to have more than just a look. My mind raced over what I could say to coax her into letting me at least try to stick it in her as we both slowly began to expose our sex to each other.

    I bent over as I slowly lifted the waistband of my underwear over my pulsing cockhead, sliding them down my legs. My face was about a foot and a half from Pauline's crotch, as she slowly lifted her skirt. The hem slowly inched it's way up, and just as I saw the first signs of a tiny hairless slit she stopped.

    "Well, stand up so I can see it. We've got to do it together," she demanded.

    Reluctanly I stood up, my hard dick pointing up at her face at about a 45 degree angle. Pauline gasped as she looked at it bobbing slightly in front of her.

    "OK, Pauline, take your skirt off," I said impatiently.

    "I'm just going to lift it up so you can see it, I don't want to take it off," she replied.

    I was at the point where I didn't care, just so long as I could see her whole pussy. Quickly she jerked her skirt up over her waist to expose my first full view of a live girl's pussy. It was so beautiful, just a tiny little hairless slit laying there between her closed legs. I marveled at the smooth folds of skin, and the lack of anything else around them.

    "Spread your legs a little bit, Pauline. I can't really see anything yet," I asked, my voice almost choking in my throat.

    Pausing for a second, she then stepped outward with first one leg, then the other, leaving me a clear view of the little line running down her crotch and disappearing up under her. We stood like that for a little bit, both of us in awe of each other before I spoke again.

    "Pauline.....," I began, "Just let me stick it in you one time...., PLEASE! Just one time, that's all."

    "I don't know....," she said cautiously, "besides, you said all I have to do is show you my thing, then you would buy me the banana split."

    "I know, I know....., but you look so pretty down there...., a-and guys who have done it before tell me that it feels REAL good when you do it. I promise I'll only stick it in and then pull it right back out...., OK?" I pleaded as I watched her let the hem of her skirt relax downward a little as she thought.

    "Well.....," she thought for a moment, looking at my cock, "I......, I guess it will be alright....., just one time though."

    "OK," I said, "I get to stick it in you all the way one time, then I'll pull it out."

    "Then you buy me the banana split," she added.

    "Then I buy you the banana split," I acknowledged. "C'mon over here to the car, we can do it in the backseat."

    She dropped her skirt back down and stood by the car door as I opened it. Then she jumped in and lay down on her back across the seat, pulling her skirt up. One leg draped off the edge of the seat, giving me my first good look at her whole, hairless little pussy slit. It started just a little ways up the front of her body and continued down all the way between her legs connecting with the crack of her ass, making one continuous line. The lips of her hairless twat were tight together, leaving no clue as to where her little hole might be.

    Slowly, I climbed in the car over her until my dick hovered right over the top of her slit. I wasn't quite sure just where it was supposed to go, so without further ado, I began poking at her slit with my dick. The first prod ran along the very top portion of her hairless slit, the head of my cock parting her lips slightly as it slid up and onto her lower belly. She giggled a little bit at this new stimulation, as the shaft of my dick slid against her preteen clit. I raised up and tried again, producing the same effect. I propped myself up with my left arm as I backed up a little and eased my dick head down her slit with my right hand. 'Where is her little cunt hole,' I thought as my cock head explored the length of her slit. Suddenly, my dick felt something slightly more moist and hotter than before. 'That must be it," I thought, as I held my dick in place and pushed slightly. Her hole was tight, and my dick glanced off and ran down between her ass cheeks.

    Again, I backed up and placed the head of my dick at the entrance to her tight, hairless hole and pushed. This time I felt the head go in slightly. As hard as my dick was, it began to bend so I backed off of the pressure a little, but keeping my dick in the same place. Once more I pushed in, and again I felt my dick slip in a little more. This time when I stopped, I felt the walls of her pussy begin to slip down around my cock, readjusting themselves to where they had formerly been. Again I pushed, and I noticed that her pussy lips seemed to go with my dick inside her. When I stopped again, I could see her slit slowly reappear as the walls of her pussy slowly slid back down my dick.

    Again I pushed, and suddenly Pauline gasped. I wasn't sure what happened, all I was sure about was that the feeling was incredible. It was like pushing my dick through layer after layer, fold after fold of hot, moist skin. Her tiny hairless hole was so tight that I could only go in a fraction of an inch at a time. Each time I pushed, her whole twat would go with me, and each time I stopped her hole would slowly ease it's way further down my dick, giving me the feeling of passing yet another fold of her inner skin.

    I could tell that Pauline was experiencing some discomfort, but she was not protesting. This was a business deal. Both of us had a bargain to keep, and she was certainly going to keep hers. After all, it wasn't very often that a kid around here got a banana split.

    I kept up my assault on her tight, hairless, virgin cunt. I had almost gotten my entire dick in her on the last push when I felt the bottom of her pussy come into contact with the head of my dick. The last push had only allowed her pussy to slip down my dick part of the distance of my thrust, and her tiny slit was just barely visible between her legs, my dick resting snugly between them.

    Well, I was all of the way in now. We looked at each other, both of us breathing heavily as I stayed inside her for a moment, relishing the feeling of my cock buried deep inside this eleven-year-old's tight, hairless pussy.

    "Pauline....," I managed to speak between gasps, "how about if I move my dick back and forth inside your pussy some? I'll still buy you a banana split!"

    She lay there with my dick inside her for a moment, panting heavily as she thought before asking hoarsely, "How many times do you want to do it?"

    I looked at her for a moment. I hadn't thought about that. How many times does it take before I can cum?

    "I dunno...," I gasped, "maybe about...., a hundred?"

    I hurried to quell the look of apprehension on her face by explaining, "A hundred times is not a lot. Hell...., I can count to a hundred in less than a minute!"

    She looked at me for a moment, then nodded in agreement as I began to slowly withdraw my dick until it was about halfway inside her. As I withdrew, the inner walls of her pussy seemed to hold onto my dick, creating an effect similar to the one when I entered her.

    Gradually I began pumping back and forth. The grip of her pussy, combined with the wetness and moisture was causing that familiar feeling deep within my loins. Her gasps became little "Ahh's" that came in time with each quickening thrust of my dick inside her.

    I don't think I needed to bargain for "about a hundred times", as the combination of the feeling of her tight hairless cunt wrapped around my dick, the feeling of her tiny body under mine, and the fact that she was looking me right in the eyes as I fucked her brought me over the edge with the most ball busting orgasm I had ever had.

    The force of my orgasm forced me to thrust completely inside of her, burying my dick to the hilt. I could feel the hard little nub of her cervix pressing against my cock head as I erupted spurt after spurt deep inside her preteen pussy. The amount of my jism was so much, and the room inside her was so little, that after I filled her preteen womb completely with my spunk, I began to feel it spurt out between my dick and the walls of her twat, running down onto my balls and between the crack of her ass.

    I had expended so much energy on my orgasm that I collapsed on top of her, my dick still buried deeply inside her. I rolled over slightly and eased my dick back out of her tiny twat, and as my cock head emerged from between her hairless pussy lips, one last spurt of pent up jism held inside my dick from the tightness of her pussy splashed across the bare lips of her slit, covering them completely.

    Our deal was done. It was late however, and the ice cream man had already gone by for the day. It was also getting on to be about supper time, so Pauline slipped out of the car and put her panties back on under her skirt, leaving my cum dripping out of that sweet hairless hole and soaking those pretty white cotton panties.

    I saw Pauline around the neigborhood a lot after that. I heard from my freinds that she eventually fucked almost every other boy in the neigborhood, but we never again got together like that, nor did we ever speak of it again. Come to think of it, I never did buy her that banana split!

  69. Artist #76 by joel8x · · Score: 1

    I just signed up my old band, Latex Generation! At the height of Napster's popularity we got more emails than ever. We used to also play all of our stuff on a Live365 station. We never had intended to make money with our music, and it took me all over the USA, Europe, and Australia. The least I can do is offer it to the masses free of charge!

    --
    Sound waves should be free!
  70. Re:OT: karma QWZX by acceleriter · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Please find me a reference that claims that posts are rated ONLY by users.

    Easy one. The FAQ prior to the recent admission to the existence of unlimited moderator points on 1/24/02 after the "First Slashdot Troll Post Investigation."

    Please tell exactly why Taco et all shouldn't do as they "damn well please" . . .

    They can whatever they "damn well please" with their own site; they're just hypocrites when they do that while pretending to be doing something altogether different.

    Note quite as entertaining as "Heil Taco", but it's still pretty amusing watching how upset people get when Taco actually manages his own site.

    HEIL TACO! (That one was free, more cost 50 pence each.)

    Don't forget: most of those trolls used to be (heck, some still are) contributors. What do you think happened?

    --

    CEE5210S The signal SIGHUP was received.

  71. Re:OT: karma QWZX by Mr.+Gorsky · · Score: 1
    I think Taco is amazingly tolerant of the idiots on this site. If it were my site, I'd delete all the crap postings.

    If Taco did what you're describing, I don't think so many people would have a beef. At k5, where, as you said, the "lunatics run the place," Rusty reserves the right to and actually does delete crap posts. But no one there bitches about it. Why? Perhaps because he admits that's what he does.

  72. Retroactive? What's _that_ all about? by jonadab · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Quoting from the article:
    > ... the major record labels [working through the courts] ... have
    > now made a serious move that, if successful, will ... apply...
    > hefty fees to broadcasters, ... retroactive to 1998.

    Retroactive to 1998? Yeeeesh. If that's true, it would
    represent a serious abuse of power, or I'm missing something.
    Lawmakers can't even _think_ about levying fees retroactive
    to 1998 (Article I Section 9). But now the courts _can_?
    The courts are supposed to interpret the law, not go off
    on their own doing things that *can't* be made into law
    because the constitution won't allow it. Or is there some
    twisted interpretation by which some extant law can be
    construed to indicate that these fees should have been paid
    all along? Can someone explain this, before I lose my last
    shreds of faith in our legal system?

    --
    Cut that out, or I will ship you to Norilsk in a box.
  73. Re:OT: karma QWZX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Easy one. The FAQ prior to the recent admission to the existence of unlimited moderator points on 1/24/02 after the "First Slashdot Troll Post Investigation."

    Give me the quote where he says that ONLY users moderated. I was NEVER under the impression that the editors didn't moderate.

    they're just hypocrites when they do that while pretending to be doing something altogether different.

    One again, give me evidence that they EVER said one thing while doing another. I've never seen it.

    Don't forget: most of those trolls used to be (heck, some still are) contributors. What do you think happened?

    I HIGHLY doubt that the crapflooding trolls are just disenfranchised intelligent posters. It's much more likely they are mostly high school students with too much time on their hands.

  74. Re:OT: karma QWZX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Rusty reserves the right to and actually does delete crap posts. But no one there bitches about it. Why? Perhaps because he admits that's what he does.

    Or he deletes the posts of people who bitch about it.

    It still astounds me that somehow people think that editor's moderating is some big secret. I've never thought otherwise, and what's more, I fully support the practice. It's just more efficient for getting rid of all the crap posts.

    Somehow people are fine when Rusty fully deletes posts, but are not fine with the editors of Slashdot moderate posts down.

    Let's also keep in mind that K5's traffic is like 1/100th to 1/1000th of Slashdot, so it doesn't attract as many of the idiots.

  75. Re:OT: karma QWZX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Let's also keep in mind that K5's traffic is like 1/100th to 1/1000th of Slashdot, so it doesn't attract as many of the idiots.

    Yup. We all stayed here.

  76. i would rather listen to an artist... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...based on their music, not if they are on some gay list.

  77. Petition to REPEAL CARP by Snover · · Score: 1
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    [insert witty comment here]
  78. Whatever It Takes by snoozebutton · · Score: 1

    I will be doing whatever I can to help in this battle, even if it means just sharing my music and encouraging others to do the same.

    _______________________

    The kids are bored,
    at home for the summer
    on a computer they can't afford,

    A first post will not be had
    in these coming weeks.
    and it's sad.

    More catchy tunes (CARP-free music!!!)

  79. What About Criminals and 364Kg Gorillas? by schmaltz · · Score: 2
    In my humble opinion a country should not need laws, but rather a principle (i.e. "Life, Liberty and Pursuit of Happiness") for the US.
    Principles are all nice and sweet in the land of faeries and elves, but here in the real fucking world, when a criminal pulls a knife to demand your money or points a gun at your family...

    Yeah, you're right. No laws, just let em go... life will be so much better.
    --
    Big Daddy, Johnny, Burp, Aunt Zelda, Scott, Slurp, Big Momma ... where's Siggy?
  80. Re:Can anyone recommend some internet radio statio by bigsexyjoe · · Score: 1

    takes for the info. It's pretty good.

  81. Send a free fax to Congress by SteelX · · Score: 2

    Please, I urge you all to send a fax to Congress regarding this matter. It's simple and straightforward, and it's free.

    SomaFM has a very convenient portal here.