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Mozilla 1.2.1 Released
I shouldn't be allowed to work before coffee- I posted this at like 8:20 and must've forgotten to click that all important 'Save' button. Hey, Everyone's favorite web browser besides Chimera has released version 1.2.1. The fix includes security patches so it probably wouldn't hurt to snag it if you're running it.
I posted this at like 8:20 and must've forgotten to click that all important 'Save' button.
Well maybe that is the problem, editors keep accidently hitting the save button throughout the day... I am sure we will see this story yet again... =P
that mozilla is quick at fixing their software when problems arise. Too bad that the DHTML bug came up in the first place. But I say "good job moz" for their fast repairs.
Since the story didn't mention it, the only difference between 1.2 and 1.2.1 is the fix for the DHTML bug (#182500).
From the release notes: "The only difference between the two releases [1.2 vs 1.2.1] is the fix for this bug (Bug 182500)." And it was a DHTML bug, not a security bug. -- Andrés
BTW, that FP was posted using Mozilla 1.2.1 which proves its simply the fastest.
Is why a revision point release of a browser is all that big of a deal. I understand this is /. and open source is pretty much the life blood around here - but is it that slow of a news day that the editors are digging for App BLAH has released Version ?.?.x ...? Perhaps /. should do a story on the European Online hate speech ban or be so kind as to give us /. readers an update on the DMCA FatWallet scandal (which has become a lot more interesting IMHO)
/. editors may want to start doing a bit of poking around on their own (beyond the woefully overhyped Anime DVD releases that Taco raves on about). I think that the content of slashdot could be improved a great deal with very little effort on the part of the staff.
Anyway I guess my point here is to say that I think that instead of relying 100% on submitted news items that
Afterall, isn't there more to "journalism" than reguritating content back to the viewers who told you about it in the first place? That seems logical enough to me. If you want a better browsing experience I suggest you take a trip to http://www.arstechnica.com - while they may not post as many stories - they are far more carefully choosen and presented in such a way that doesn't alienate 50% of viewers by the second sentence (Hint: Check out any Anti MS story here and then check out the browsing statistics for this site)
Thanks for your time,
J
I love idealists not because I am one, but because they make life bearable for pragmatists such as myself.
Just for my own reference, examples of sites which died with the DHTML bug? Do lots of sites use DHTML? What the hell _IS_ DHTML ? :)
As the post said... this is a fix release. If you got to sites that use DHTML, or couldn't get Mozilla 1.2 installed (It had a nasty permissions bug on UNIX, which kept it from being run by a normal user). Basically, get this release, but dont expect any cool features... it's just a bug fix release.
"And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Savior of the World"
1 John 4:14
shouldn't be allowed to work before coffee- I posted this at like 8:20 and must've forgotten to click that all important 'Save' button.
That's ok, I'm sure we'd have seen the story the next two times it's going to run on Slashdot.
NO CARRIER
Looking at the release notes shows that the only change from 1.2.1 to 1.2 is the fix for the DHTML bug, but the installation images (Win32) went from 10.81 MB (11,339,472 bytes) to 10.95 MB (11,491,024 bytes). Anyone know why it got so much bigger? Was the fix that involved?
C8H10N4O2 | Developer > Code
I was actually able to download *both* the Windows and Linux binaries in their entirety WITHOUT waiting several hours for the process to complete. I attribute this feat entirely to the slashdot editor who forgot to press "Save". THANK YOU! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!
It was a screwup. Plain and simple, a bug slipped into the 1.2 release candidate. It happens, and the whole Mozilla project has a better record than most at creating stable releases which actually are. This is, to the best of my knowledge, the first release they've ever pulled. Any idea how many firmware and kernel patches Sun and HP have pulled on their OS?
Give them a break, and if you want stability, never download ANYTHING in the first week.
"People who do stupid things with hazardous materials often die." -- Jim Davidson on alt.folklore.urban
If the new release appears to cause problems, be sure to remove/move your profile directory. This is one of the things I always forget to do when installing a new release because most of the time it doesn't make a difference. Also, although the source tarballs aren't posted, I was able to steal one out of the Redhat SRPMS that appears to be authentic (using rpm2tgz/rpm2targz and there's another tarball inside). Now why couldn't they just post the tarball first?
Actually, the headline isn't completely wrong, Mozilla 1.2.1 only contains the "can't write to dynamically created elements" fix that was breaking some DHTML and page layout. Mozilla 1.2.1 also contains everything that the 1.2 release contained when it was released and then unreleased last week. That included new features, improved performance, better stability and security fixes. So if you're using _any_ oler Mozilla releases you really should upgrade to get all the new 1.2.1 goodness, including improved security.
For the folks that just downloaded Mozilla 1.2 last week, if you're not having any problems (and it seems like the DHTML issue is a lot less visible on linux) then there's no pressing "security" reason to upgrade to 1.2.1 but you might as well get it for this DHTML fix which is likely to eventually cause you some pain at some site somewhere.
--Asa
Since over half the slashdot crowd uses IE, should there not be stories out when MS releases new versions of it?
Ignore the "p2p is theft" trolls, they're just uninformed
Mozilla is a threaded e-mail client, eh? So far, so good. However, it doesn't actually remember the Expand All Threads state.
So, suppose that you turn on threading and tell Mozilla to Expand All Threads. You now have a nice tree-like view of mail threads :). But, next time you load Mozilla, it'll be back to compressed view again (but still sorted by threads). If threaded mail sounds useful to you, you may want to vote for the bug (of course, you'll need a free Bugzilla account to vote).
Alex Bischoff
HTML/CSS coder for hire
Phoenix is a mock-up of Chimera ;)
Now if I could just download OS X for x86.
And when are they going to fix the damn quick launch and the plethora of mail bugs that keep me tied to Communicator for mail.
I love Moz, but geez, this stuff has been pushed out since 1.0RC1 (which was a fine application EXCEPT THIS STUFF).
</rant>
I get really annoyed every time I install a new version of mozilla. Perhaps I'm doing it wrong somehow, but every time I upgrade all my plugins disappear. The first page I have to visit after an upgrade is optimoz.mozdev.org to get my mouse gestures back.
Is there some way to preserve these plugins that I don't know about?
And why oh why do I have to be root to install mouse-gestures under linux?
Tick Tick Tick Tick Tick Tick.....
No, only a small subset of known bugs are listed in the "Known Problems" section of the release notes. You should check bugzilla.mozilla.org for the status of the bug report you submitted, and if the bug is marked fixed, but you are still experiencing the problem, then reopen the bug report.
is it the bug with Mozilla's resolver? because that one is affecting several people i know, too, and is in bugzilla.
gethostbyname() is good enough for me.
has this always been true or is this new to 1.2... I don't remember my themes not working before but it may just be my memory that's not working
... how come I now can't have both my mail and browser windows open at the same time? Worked fine in 1.2 final. Now the mozilla process won't even die when I close all the windows (well, all one of the windows, since now, in an obvious bid to Highlander fans, there can be only one).
Let me demonstrate where I am with Mozilla:
start of tether [----------------|--] end of tether
Don't tell me to bug it, I've already filed loads of bugs (very few of which have even been looked at, let alone fixed), and I haven't the time. 1.1 kept crashing on me, the 1.2 beta was worse, and you can forget about using the nightlies if you don't want to hit completely random regressions every other minute.
No, I know I'm not paying for it, and I know it's a community effort, whatever. Let me just have five minutes of rage. (Actually, let me have the original 1.2 final installer back, because at least that one seemed to work, and minor DHTML bugs are something I'll put up with if they let me read the web and my mail at the same time)
-- Yoz
How come the solaris releases are always days or even weeks behind?
mozilla.org makes binaries for Mac9, OSX, Linux, and Windows. All other builds (sometimes as many as a dozen or so platforms) are contributed builds.We release when we've got the four major platforms done and then the Solaris and FreeBSD and OS/2 and BeOS and all the other builds arrive later.
--Asa
Don't speak for everyone... Mozilla and Chimaria aren't my favorite browsers... Opera is.
"It's not like your minds are as open as the source you love..." - Me to the majority of Slashdot.
But for some reason, this post sounds like something Mao would say if he were a 21st century geek. C'mon, doesn't it? =)
"You know why you do not see me styling wit my homies? Because I have no homies!!" -Mojo Jojo
Okay, maybe I'm just having a slow start to my Tuesday, but why can't I figure out how to get Mozilla 1.2 to go ahead and smooth fonts in KDE on a RedHat 8 system? I can't even find anything useful on Google, which is bizarre.
Every year during my review, I just pray the words "slashdot.org" aren't mentioned.
Why must Mozilla always release only the full version, even for minor fix releases like this one. I am on a satellite connection, so it took me hours to download 1.2, and now I will have to download almost the exact same thing all over again. Can't they release both a full version and a patch for the previous version?
With most projects, the tgz'd (or bz2'd) source file is in plain site, but I can never seem to find the one for Mozilla.
Mozilla source tarballs are _always_ a day or two later than the release binaries. We only have so many people working on this and so many machines to make this all happen. We release when we've got the four primary platforms built and a release tag created. That's usually late at night and when it's done we go home and the next day get to work on creating the source tarball. If you can't wait a day or two then pull MOZILLA_1_2_1_RELEASE from cvs.
--Asa
So, was the DHTML bug the reason why the image map (top right: Help|My Orders|etc) on the EB Games wasn't working for me in 1.2? It seems to be okay in 1.2.1.
That is to say, it's like your mom, only prettier.
Expanding a vast wasteland since 1996.
No, it's with the ThinkPad (all models) trackpoint behaviour.
I saw what the problem is: they have it as "UNCONFIRMED". I didn't think it would be so hard to find a ThinkPad, but what do you know.
I tried to submit a notice that the bug still exists in 1.2.1, but I get the message from Bugzilla that only the owner, submitter or user with necessary privileges can do that. Strange again, since I am the submitter.
Too bad, because the behaviour is so irritating as to prevent me from using Mozilla on my laptop.
Sigged!
At least they cared enough to provide an explanation :->
I can't make it work with BBC News, but I can put up with that. But the jerky mousepointer on the ThinkPad is no go. Sorry Moz.
Sigged!
Icing on the mornings cake: I got up on time, drove to work, posted a story, and then forgot to press *save* on the goddamn web form. So for hte next 2 hours I keep deleting submission after submission about Mozilla 1.2.1 thinking "geezus, are people blind?" and not realizing that no, I am in fact stupid. Of course, why so many people submit a bug fix release of a web browser is beyond me. Some stories I'd rather not post, but sheer volume of submissions really makes it impractical to ignore them
--
Overcaffeinated. Angry geeks.
in eventual response to some major security flaw which will have been discussed a few months earlier on /. when it was first discovered. And when they are released, normally there will be a /. article about the ridiculous new EULA provisions ("In the name of computer safety, we reserve the right to purchase, sell, trade, barter or dispose of at our convenience your first born child") so we are informed, in a way.
I'm sorry, but for all that Chimera is hailed, is is a piece of crap browser. I've been using it and it just crashes constantly and lacks a lot of features. Features that I sorely miss from mozilla/phoenix while using Chimera are:
Smart Bookmarks (searching from location bar very convenient, am using what I feel is a kludge of a javascript monstrosity set as my search page to search by selection or pop up a dialog if there is no selection, decent, but still not as cool).
Type-ahead find: very nifty feature.
Ability to have hrefs that request new windows open in tabs. I like tabs and don't like sites breaking my preferred usage paradigm.
Freaking close buttons on the tabs. I hate having to right click, control-click, or click and hold to close a tab that is not the active tab. Just annoying.
The first is to me the biggest issue. I just had to rant that Chimera is not 'all-that'. If it didn't crash so much and at *least* had smart bookmarks, then maybe. OmniWeb and IE are just too feature barren, Opera misrenders some important pages to me, and Mozilla is too slow. Phoenix has been decent, but middle-click doesn't work and sometimes it gets a bit confused in the MacOSX builds... Well, enough of my rant..
XML is like violence. If it doesn't solve the problem, use more.
This is an excellent reply, and it explains the whole situation clearly. It's too bad stuff like that has to happen, but reading this clears it up a bit for me. So the problem was with the DHTML part of the backout, or it was the DHTML that caused them to try and back out of the patch, which caused the 1.2 mishap? I confused. :?
BEWARE---Installing 1.2.1 can destroy your Palm user account.
Aside from that, Palm address book sync is in... but there still seems to be lots of issues with it. Categores don't seem to sync well, it resets the "Show in list" field every time something changes, secondary address books don't always sync, etc.
Classify as Not Yet Ready for Prime Time(tm).
Life if possible, art at any cost.
You'll be amused to know that Mozilla 1.2.1 differs from Mozilla 1.2 by one character.
Ok, not exactly. It actually differs by 34 characters. The bug fix itself was a one character change (changed a '9' to an '8'). Changing the version string in various places from "1.2" to "1.2.1" took 33 characters.
One thing that is really keeping me from using Mozilla is the fact that I can't use my google toolbar. I've become dependant on it, to be honest. So, it would be cool if Mozilla could emulate IE somehow or another to fool Google and be able to have IE style custom toolbars. Not sure if this is possible....
Honestly folks, do we really need a front page story every time a new version of Mozilla is realeased? I'm sure there's other applications that are more deserving than a web browser.
Mozilla 1.2.1 Released
Mozilla 1.2 Unleashed
Mozilla 1.2 Beta Released
Mozilla 1.2 Betas Start Flowing
Mozilla 1.1 Hits The Street
Mozilla 1.1 Beta Out And About
And that's just from the first two pages of search results. I know we all love our Mozilla, but I'm sure there's something else a little more newsworthy going on today.
"A terrorist is someone who has a bomb but doesn't have an air force." -William Blum
Maybe because when Microsoft releases a new version every technology site plus almost every other site including online book stores, online lingerie stores, online food delivery sites and gramma's blog run reviews, praisings and articles about it. Such an event is usually also covered by all newspapers, magazines, high-school student papers and church bulletins in the world. It is not like without Slashdot we would all be ignorant of Microsoft new releases...
It might be worth consideration if the text boxes worked *vaguely* like proper Mac OS X text fields. No spell checking, completely bozofied text selection (try double-clicking and dragging or triple clicking.) It's a nice try but it'll never replace OmniWeb for anything other than fancy DHTML or JavaScript sites that don't work in OW.
The directory for src is empty:
l la 1.2.1/src
ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/releases/mozi
I really want to start this building whilst I'm at work but I can't find the source!
Anyone know which nightly this was built from? I can just download that one.
"Fighting the underpants gnomes since 1998!" "Bruce Schneier knows the state of schroedinger's cat"
Of course you can save the more essential stuff like bookmarks, cookies, mailfolders etc. by making a backup copy. This is how I upgraded from 1.0 RC1 all the way to 1.2.1 (via 1.0 RC2 1.0, 1.1a, 1.1b 1.1, 1.2b, 1.2). It would be nice if the mozilla setup would automatically migrate stuff that can be migrated rather than just dumping everything ontop of the existing setup and hoping for the best.
Jilles
1 - Tabbed browsing is cool, but you should get a confirmation that you'd like to close the main browser window when you have 23 tabs open
2 - CTRL-SHIFT-L to open a web address. Make it CTRL-O.
I installed Mozilla 1.1 a couple weeks ago on Mandrake Linux. Apostrophes and quotes no longer resolve correctly -- appear as umlaut y or something like that. I've looked around for the easy answer, not yet found one. I doubt upgrading to 1.21 would correct this. Any ideas or resources?
Support your local Independent candidate. Better yet, make new friends and run for public office.
http://www.mozilla.org/releases/
Scroll down looking for "Net Installer" .
One simple rule for its versus it's
... turns out to be bug 144027.
Cheers to the Mozilla bugspotters for pointing me in the right direction!
start of tether [--|-------------] end of tether
-- Yoz
...is still a UPS truck full of CD/DVD-ROMs.
shouldn't this be a mozilla topic rather than news?
If you're on a single user (or more or less single user, e.g. you and a couple of family members, housemates etc.) Unix system then there's an alternative way to disentangle plugins from the browser itself.
Create a directory ~/.mozilla/plugins
(that's right, beneath Mozilla's own dot directory)
Then move plugins you want into that directory (but only real plugins, not the null plugin or any other Moz-provided stuff)
This works for me, YMMV.
Arggh! I upgraded my 1.2beta and will probably roll it out.
They have removed the new pop up manager saying it will return when it's ready for prime time. Damn! I thought the pop up manager was terrific as it is.
They also, but I can't find the bug report now, seem to have removed the middle-click kills a tabbed window behavior, another behavior I use all the time.
Hey, for me, 1.2.1 is much worse than 1.2beta.
Check Bugzilla BugID 166442, comment 104 (no URL given to help keep a few casual Slash clickers off BugZilla).
Basically scrapped for 1.2 becuase they couldn't get it in right, on the plate again for 1.3.
Translation:
Anything that you are not completely familiar with or disagree with is subject to ridicule. Any flaws in your ridicule are the responsibility of those that only partially informed you, therefore maintaining your perfection and absolute right to ridicule.
Damn, sorry we all forgot to fully inform you. We must have been mistaken when we assumed that you had the responsibility to inform yourself before engaging your sarcastic wit. This release of Mozilla clears up all of the problems I have had with 1.2b, now that you know what it is, try it and enjoy. Don't forget to check out tabbed browsing.
Kindness is the language which the deaf can hear and the blind can see. - Mark Twain
CTRL-SHIFT-L to open a web address. Make it CTRL-O. Have you tried using the plain old ctrl-L command? I can no longer use browsers that lack this feature. (IE5 for Mac was the first place I saw it.)
Just how buggy (using Win version) this thing is?
There has been a bug in the turbo feature for a while. If you close the last mozilla window, mozilla will basically restart which will cause thrashing on lower memory systems. The workaround seems to be not closing the last window..
Yeah, and then there's that other dead OS, OS/2...Oh, wait
I use Opera, too (paid for it, even). And if it weren't for several really annoying bug/features, I'd quit using Mozilla altogether:
But the main reason that Opera doesn't get as much press is because, heck, they're making money. If the Mozilla programmers build a better browser, kudos from the open-source press are likely the only payment they'll see for their efforts. But if Opera builds a better browser (and in a lot of ways, they have -- witness their domination of the embedded market) they'll get paid in cash.
The Web is like Usenet, but
the elephants are untrained.
There were rpms for 7.x (I think x > 3) when I downloaded my 8.0 rpms yesterday. Even better there were also rpms for 8.0 against xft. This really, really looks better under Linux.
Pizza and Sushi are probably the case actually.
You can't grep a dead tree.