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Mechanical Butterflies?
MImeKillEr writes "According to an article on BBC News, two researchers from Oxford took highspeed photographs of an Admiral butterfly in a specially-designed windtunnel to study how butterflies fly. The resulting research brings insight into small-scale flight dynamics. Although the article doesn't give an ETA on this, they expect to be able to build an aircraft with a 10cm wingspan that will be either autonomous or radio controlled. This will allow them to be used in rescue missions, cave exploration and possibly even on Mars."
Butterfree, I choose you.
I could see this having a potential weapons use in distributing toxins/sedatives... oh yea... first post...
without an atmosphere..
:P
reply my ass
If you could put cameras on these things they would be great for espionage. I imagine the military would love to see some tiny radio controlled flying vehicles with video capture capability.
you can take the road that takes you to the stars...
calpoly san luis obispo!
I feel proud to know my taxes are once again being spent on something useful... I notice they used smoke to spot the airflow, I hope the butterflies were consulted first on breathing 2nd hand smoke or we could be in for some costly litigation in a few years time!
Windows guys please stop pissing on everyone and the Linux guys stop pissing in the wind, hoping to hit Windows guys!
...if the MSN marketroids ever got their hands on this technology...arrgh the butterflies...they're everywhere...
Ceci n'est pas une
... two researchers took highspeed photographs of a pig in a specially-designed windtunnel to study how pigs fly. This will allow them to be used in rescue missions, cave exploration and possibly even on Mars.
Admiral butterflys takes highspeed photographs of YOU
funniest thing I saw
but really hard to fly : planes with flapping wings
this technology is today where fixed wing tech war one century ago (ie a few hundred meters flight at 2 or 3 meters altitude)
www.ornithopter.net/
I mean sure cool you can fly a littly x10 butterfly up to look in your neighbours windows but if it can only stay there for a minute, whats the point?
--
nich
37 - what does it stand for really...
go mustangs!
and possibly, terrorism. and possibly Big Brother's lil Helpers, and possibly a pest to native birds who try to eat them.
What a world we live in!
A Good Troll is better than a Bad Human.
We are planning to send a fleet of mechanical butterflies to mars...
Good morning slashdot!
ANATOMY OF AN ASSHOLE
And you thought this was just going to be another
goats.cx link. Close. During
this bloody war with Mr. Lockwood, several interested lookers-on have commented,
"Yeah, Vlad is a fat, disgusting piece of shit, but why do you hate him that
much?? Do you berate your own feces before you flush it??" This is a question
which must be answered. Here, I will present to you just a few reasons for despising
William Scott Lockwood III. Read these with an open mind and an eye toward moral
clarity and I am certain you will reach the same conclusion that I and others have:
Lardinator Has To Go.
This is the face of a
child-molestor. It is no coincidence that Lockwood 3's children live all the
way on the other side of the country. His wife at the time (just one in a
continuous stream of buffalo), could not get her brood far enough away from the
cold clammy probing fingers of Lardinator. And knowing what a low-life piece of
white-trash her ex-husband is, she knew that Lardo would not spring for so much
as a ride in a 67 Mercury Comet to "see" his hell-spawn. Child molestors are
generally sexually abused in their own youth.
Take a long look at
the tortured echos of a deprived childhood.
Crapflooder Extraordinaire (note: I
know these are some big words, Scottie. Don't worry your little head about it.
Just rest assured you are being exposed for the worthless fuck you are).
William Scott Lockwood III used his third-rate troll site
Geekizoid to encourage the crap-flooding
and general assault of websites he deemed inappropriate. This included a tech site
oriented toward females, an animal rights site, child abuse sites (see above
paragraph for why Scotty found that one inappropriate), a site aimed at giving
advice to troubled teens and various other sites where people generally minded
their own business, blissfully unaware of the stinking mound of manure who had
eyed them for destruction only to sate his own appetite for power. When the
admin of one of those sites (yeah, it was mine) decided to give little Pecker-head
a taste of his own shit, it was suddenly a bad thing! Why, he was going to involve
the law! He was sending his server logs to EVERYONE in order to figure out who
was spanking his little butt good (he never did).
Idiot Supreme.
Yep, you read that right, folks. Fatty can't even read his own server logs!
And he wants YOU to buy a scoop "server" from him!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! We can see from
this old post that Fatty
dropped out of high-school. That would explain quite a bit.
Hypocrite Extreme.
Mr. Lardinator has a nasty habit of complaining to those who run message boards. He
constantly accused Rob Malda of being a hypocrite (a word Mr. Lardinator can't even
spell properly). He has also complained incessantly about K5's Rusty and others. Of
course, you now know from the Crapflooding paragraph, that Mr. Lardinator is the
biggest (in more ways than one) H Y P O C R I T E of them all.
Well, that's it for now. I can and will post more later, but I will let
you digest this in pieces. And please, join the crusade. It is the only way.
y0, check it.
There was this episode of Earth Final Conflict that had these weirdo mechanical butterflies in it.
That's it. WORD.
I can own my own Thropter ... Arrakis here i come !
Although the west assures the world that butterfly aircraft will be used for exploritory purposes, iraq believes that the butterflies will be used for offensive purposes...
They have responded by ordering several large nets.
The butterfly has had hundreds of millions of years to develop it's flight model. It's just not as simple as 'wings shaped like this, that flap like this'. It's about the finely tuned control mechanisim (in this case, butterfly brain) that controls the speed, angle, force, curvature etc, of the wings that counts.
This reminds me of people who keep insisting Moores Law will deliver us a smart computer soon. I could wait forever, but hyper threading technology is never going to say something smart.
It also reminds me of a joke; What's the last thing that goes through a bugs mind as it hits a windshield? It's ass.
"A language that doesn't affect the way you think about programming, is not worth knowing" - Alan Perlis
Ever read Stanislav Lem's "Peace on Earth"?
Excellence: Moderate (mostly affected by comments on your karma)
Its the painful truth, you have been replaced by a machine!
From: Ceee Peee
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: [k22320inchfan] No respect
Date sent: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 08:57:36 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0018)
Today was the appointed date for jury duty (postponed since this summer, since the idiots at the courthouse failed to divine that calling a student to duty in the county where he studies rather than resides permanently doesn't make any sense). It was my hope to get on a jury, since I highly value the (unconstitutionally diminishing) role of the jury in American jurisprudence.
I showed up this morning at the courthouse. After some buffoonery at the security check (hint: don't carry a cpu in your backpack when arriving for jury duty), I went upstairs where I signed in and was informed that I had already missed the video (shucks). I filled out some paperwork and was redirected to the grand-jury room.
This was a potential mixed blessing. Grand juries, as distinguished from petite ("normal") juries, are the first line that the state must cross before obtaining an indictment for the accused. They consist of 23 laypersons whose standard is "probable cause" rather than "reasonable doubt" and vote by majority rule whether to issue an indictment. The prosecutor presents his witnesses and evidence, and the defendant has no representation. Normally, the grand-jury trial is brief and 99% or so of all grand juries return an indictment. Prosecutors often refer to this statistic as the "ability to indict a ham sandich" if they so please. Grand juries usually sit for one day per week for three months, something that would screw up any student's semester.
The good thing about grand juries is that they have almost infinite investigatory powers to do whatever they please. What is not commonly understood is that the role of the grand jury isn't just to return a verdict in the form of an indictment; it's for members to question witnesses, subpoena evidence the prosecutor didn't present, and generally get the whole story. It's even within the power of the grand jury to expell the prosecutor and judge if the jury so decides.
I was prepared to give them hell. Once on a jury
(grand or otherwise), I was going to be the asshole
lawyer the defendant isn't allowed to have. I was
going to subpoena bank records, grill prosecutorial
witnesses, and vote to nullify anything I considered
unjust (even when "legal"). I was going to persuade
enough fellow jurors to kick out anyone we didn't
like, especially the prosecutor. In short, I was
going to troll the legal system.
But I didn't get that opportunity. After an hour of
sitting in the grand-jury room, we were informed that
we weren't waiting for a grand-jury seating: instead,
a petite-jury seating.
Petite juries, in states that value the constitution,
are 12-person panels that sit and hear evidence in the
actual criminal trial. Their role is ostensibly to
decide the facts and apply the law as directed by the
judge. Their actual role under the constitution
(though the Supreme Court doesn't require that you be
informed of this) is to sit in judgment not just on
the facts but also on the law. Again, I was hoping to
get a chance to nullify stuff: this time, drug laws
and other things I believe unconstitutional.
Again, I was denied. Only five minutes later, we were
informed that all the cases pending today were
plea-bargained, and we were "free to go". A sigh of
relief was heard throughout the room, as people who
didn't want to be there were grateful that they didn't
have to serve on a jury and perform the duty they
didn't want to perform. I was disgusted.
That's what's most wrong with plea bargaining in this
country. Not that 90% of cases never reach public
scrutiny because they're decided in the hallways of
courthouses. Not that people serve penalties for
unconstitutional charges. Not that real criminals get
off with reduced sentences. Not that the legislatures
feel free to pass an absurd number of laws without
caring whether the court system can handle the load of
giving each citizen true justice.
None of that.
What's wrong is that I, a troll, have been kept off my
damn jury. No respect.
(This is CP0018)
God how much I'm delighted to hear about this.
I take a look at the science fiction books that I read years back and I look at now. Soon my favorite science fiction books will become not just speculation, but reality. Things like mechanical butterflies aren't something to be scoffed at like I assume some will, but something to be hailed.
I yearn for the days that these little mettalic insects can be seen fluttering in flocks towards fires or car accidents, offering those minded to it a warning of danger or peril.
I feel good right now, the technologically advanced world I want for my children could be at hand sooner than I thought.
Of all the Universal Constants, here's one I know: Nice guys finish last
That latest one is too long to read... ...3 466
<wsl3> We need something new in there already...
<wsl3> Hey, I know...
<wsl3>
<county> Generally, yes, Sulla.
<wsl3> Much better.
<county> And when I do talk to women I'm attracted to, I'm just biting and cutting.
<wsl3> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=20721&cid=468
Hope the real life ones won't like burrowing into human flesh. The E:FC version did.
From: cptroll
/. userbio to reflect it). As near as I can
/ 12/4/145812/319
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] cp, is this you?
Date sent: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 19:04:43 -0500
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0001)
Nope. (I saw that diary this morning.) Anne Marie doesn't have a k5
account (and I've updated her
tell, it was registered by the same person who registered CmdrTaco on k5
-- at least the garbage on the user page is consistent between the two.
Anyone who wants to point out the inconsistencies is welcome (I'll
refrain). Do you suppose if I <b>harass rusty</b> he'll give me the 'Anne Marie'
account?... He is known to be troll-friendly....
For now, I only post on k5 under "cp", though I have a 3k-range account
I'm holding in reserve in case a low uid# is ever needed to win a penis
contest. Technically, "Trivia Contest" was mine since I'm the idiot who
started that idea (and it's wasted at least some of rusty's morning,
though in a pleasant educational fashion), but that one's out of my
control now. I'm exploring social-engineering options outside of the mere
LWM disinformation/flaming I'm accustomed to.
Luis Casillas <casillas@stanford.edu> wrote:
>You may need a k5 account to see this:
>
> http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=displaystory&sid=2000
>
>The fact that the account is "Ann_a_ Marie" seems to argue against
>it... Anyway, you were around for the original "Real Bruce Perens"
>stuff, right?
>
>--
>Luis Casillas
>Department of Linguistics
>Stanford University
(This is CP0001)
[dmg] and then I will be in Tokyo/south Korea in April /msg datebot Why aren't women drawn to my l33t Linux skilz?
[dmg] Who are you anyway Lumpen ?
[bc] you are drunk ever 36 hours
[dmg] I am not sure I should be giving this information out.
[Lumpen] Just a fan, dmg.
[county] Well, I need to stay sober for now, because I have a date!
[First_Incision] why am I always sober? I should take up this drinking thing.
[county] Yes, do.
[First_Incision] maybe I just need to get used to it. I could never drink enough to get drunk. Once I could feel stupidity creeping up, I could never bring myself to continue.
[county] Strange.
[dmg] county: did you get your date from reading the excellent dating advice available here on #adequacy ?
[county] Once I can feel stupidity creeping up, I can't bring myself to stop.
[county] dmg, I actually lied about having a date.
[Lumpen] does #adequacy have a dating-advice bot?
[dmg] county: its IRC
[dmg] you can lie if you want
[First_Incision] Lumpen: it should!
[First_Incision] zuul, dating?
[zuul] first_incision: wish i knew
[First_Incision] zuul, women?
[zuul] bugger all, i dunno, first_incision
[First_Incision] zuul, men?
[zuul] men are really just boys with financial responsibilities
[dmg] zuul, should I visit a whore ?
[zuul] dmg: wish i knew
[county] I witnessed an shocking display of female pettiness and cruelty today. It put me off.
[Lumpen]
[First_Incision] zuul, linux
[zuul] hmmm... linux is a big POS half rate OS that encourages pirates and blatant faggotry!!!!!
[bc] perhaps you aren't skillful enough
[First_Incision] there you go!
[bc] if you can use these skills to make lots&LOTS of money, they will be drawn to those skills
[Lumpen] Not skilzful enough?
[dmg] zuul, bsd
[zuul] rumour has it bsd is dying
*** bc has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer)
*** Sulla (gallus@modem-2446.porcupine.dialup.pol.co.uk) has joined #adequacy
[Lumpen] But I installed the Linux on my home b0xen all by myself!
[Lumpen] You should just reopen Adequacy. The joke has gone on long enough.
[First_Incision] Perdida has her Iniquity "Daily", but I can't seem to finish an article for it.
[Lumpen] Iniquity?
[First_Incision] www.iniquitydaily.com
[dmg] adequacy is dead. Red ink flowed like a river of blood! you didn't have to be Kreskin to see that it was dying. Fact: adequacy is dead.
[county] perdida has a scoop site?
[county] Oh heavens, do spare us.
[Lumpen] It looks like the most recent article on iniquitydaily was posted about a month ago.
[First_Incision] yeah
[Lumpen] Lame.
[First_Incision] And it was a k5 reject
[cyn-away] bc knows more about it
Oh, right, the military! This is exactly what I thought when I read about "tiny radio controlled flying vehicles with video capture capability." I surely can't see any better uses for them. (Who said I do?!)
root@aio:~# nmap -sX -iR -p1- # Ho, ho, ho! Merry Xmas, everyone!
From: Ceee Peee
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: [k22320inchfan] gbd on #trolls
Date sent: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 22:06:25 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0004)
Right now, "gbd" is on #trolls. His host is
remarkably similar to momocrome's: gbd is
~gbd@adsl-63-200-62-16.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
(george), whereas momocrome is
~natalie_p@cloaked.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net (MOMOCROME).
Yet, he's able to present compelling evidence that he
is the one who currently holds the "gbd" usernick on
slashdot, who I do consider to be the real gbd in
light of the circumstances surrounding how I gave him
the account. Gbd's address looks like it's from SF,
whereas momocrome's is from LA, so that would suggest
they're not the same. But does anyone else have a
pacbell.net address that we know?
(This is CP0004)
From: cptroll
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: [k22320inchfan] Let's try this one again: gbd et al
Date sent: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 18:22:12 -0400
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0030)
cptroll <cptroll@linuxstart.com> wrote:
From ??? Fri Feb 19 09: 25 Date: Thu Oct 26 2
>I've been in touch with gbd via email. (He doesn't want me to share his
>address with anyone, and I'm respecting that.) Apparently, the fellow
>has big plans, but he's aufully vague and evasive about everything, so
>it's hard to say what's what. I do have his physical location nailed
>down to a certain one of the fifty states, and it's an odd one.
>
>I asked him about his scheme of capitalization, and this was the best
>answer I could get from him: "as far as why i capitalize things i do it
>to EMPHASIZE things that should be stressed, i know that you can do this
>with html but i am too lazy, hehe."
>
>Yes, he stays true to his form, even in email. The upshot is, I gave him
>his account, and he's all squared away with that.
>
>What an odd fellow!
(This is CP0030)
VLAD FAGodfosppd aoh fod vaggot vlaggot fucking vlad faggot
From: Ceee Peee
/. after a long series of trolls, it's time to whore [the queue] again.
/. ever was. My intentions and hopes aren't to destroy k5 but to become a watershed event in its history, fit to go into next year's year-in-review. Looks like I'm succeeding.
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] the real anne marie stood up
Date sent: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 20:24:36 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0016)
Agreed, but I have to find better ones. As much as I liked the dementia-causes-popmusic-preference one, the k5 crowd just didn't care. Like on
One of these days I'm going to write an op/ed meta story called "Hi, I'm Anne Marie. You're all hypocrites." But I think I'll hold back, now.
BTW, the ktb=educatedescort cries are hilarious, at least to me. Soon, rusty'll have to change k5's motto to "Technology and culture from the trenches and stuff about Anne Marie". I'd feel remorse, but a) I like the attention and b) I give k5 more credit than that; it's more resilient than
--- jlb wrote:
> As those of you who are interested have probably
> already seen, the real
> anne marie has posted a story on k5 saying that
> she's not the AM account
> on k5 or slashdot. She apparently put something in
> the html source of her
> educatedescort site saying as much.
>
> My advice to cp: keep posting stories like nothing,
> at all, has changed.
>
> -lb
>
> --
> "Is this real?"
> "Does it matter?"
>
(This is CP0016)
In the atmosphere of Mars, the are only 1.5% the molecules we have. The composition is also evry different, but the point is: it's _very_ thin. OTOH, the gravity on Mars is about 38% of Earth's gravity.
So if you have something that flies on Earth, it's still a long way to go until you get it to fly on Mars.
but what do i know, i'm just a model.
I can just picture it now! Saddam, in his palace being chased around by a tiny poisone-tipped mechanical butterfly while his moustache touting combat clad generals try to take it out with US supplied 'sidewinder swatters'
From: cptroll
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] new blood.
Date sent: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:46:24 -0500
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0003)
Barry Corrigan is fine by me. We need some scottish blood.
>Would anyone object to Kiss the Blade joining (or at
>least being invited to join) the list?
>
>He has been posting some pretty nice stuff, and I have
>spoken to him on #trolls a number of times and he
>seems OK.
>
>++tlt
>
>Do You Yahoo!?
>Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
>or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
(This is CP0003)
From: Ceee Peee
/lived/ by you. If I were to go to Denny's
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] sunday adventure at deny's
Date sent: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 14:15:42 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0014)
Sometimes I'm jealous of you, Warren. Not the
paranoia or the psychotropic haze you walk around in
often, but the way even the smallest experiences are
so well
(only slightly higher on my list than Cracker Barrel
-- a racist homophobic trailertrash chickenshit
restaurant, for the edification of the Brits in the
audience), it'd hardly register on my mind to notice
half the stuff you do. Sure, I can remember lots in
hindsight, like the Weslyan wicca-ish waitress who
served me and my gf's family at a veganish restaurant
in Middletown, CT at lunch today, but you turn it into
your own opera.
Maybe I'm depressed. Maybe I'm just normal. I'd like
to think it's the former.
(This is CP0014)
From: cptroll
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Let's try this one again: gbd et al
Date sent: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 19:10:38 -0400
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0031)
If he's not a real person (craig?), then he's doing a good job of hiding it. If I had a geographical breakdown of known USian trolls, then I could assure myself that it wasn't one of them and therefore someone unique.
On the topic of vladinator:
"as far as VLADINATOR is concerned there is a story behind that, but i am still in the process of putting all the details together but the story will be told. i dont REALLY think that he is a communist i just like to say that because it bugs him. but there is a REASON for the fued and i'll be revealing it."
Which just sounds like he's dicking around with vlad. But in the other emails, the tone changes to "and do not listen to vladinator, there is no telling what he might do." and "but DO NOT listen to vladinator!! the man is pure evil"
When I myself (with gbd's permission) dicked around with Vlad for trying to steal gbd's account by successfully impersonating gbd to Vlad (just to confuse Vlad, mostly), gbd replied:
"actually this is going to sound SILLY but could you let vladinator know that you're just joking and are not really me (george), i plan on explaining things better here in the NEAR FUTURE but that will only work with things as HONEST as POSSIBLE."
which sounds like it'll be fun.
On the subject of "the trolls", gbd said:
"anyway please don't give this mail address out to the trolls, like i said earlier i DON'T want them flooding me with spam and stuff which is why i am trying to do this as PRIVATE as i possibly can"
which as I've said, I'm respecting.
If anyone has any questions for him, I could probably put them to him.
rev <hanales@hotmail.com> wrote:
>So are you saying that gbd is a real person?
>You must share some of his insights (without revealing his address of
>course)
(This is CP0031)
From: Ceee Peee
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Experiment in whoring...
Date sent: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 10:03:49 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0005)
It's good to see you making a go at it again, but I'm
confused as to why you're trying to whore up a
bitchslapped account, because no matter what your
karma is, you'll never stop defaulting to -1 (just ask
warren). Your only option would be to start a new
account -- "DMG" is still available....
James can answer you better than I, but Jon Erikson is
definitely not dead. I'm surprised to confirm that
there aren't any comments on his users.pl page, but I
guess this week belongs to Dan Hayes.
(This is CP0005)
From: cptroll
d =2755) so I make up an
B 40" X-Priority: Ê3
t .com/~wsl3/+vladinator).
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: [k22320inchfan] Vladinator needs a beatdown
Date sent: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 20:04:50 -0400
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0029)
I'm trying to give george his account back
(http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=trolltalk&ci
appropriate throwaway email address and post it. Vladinator, being the
prick he is, sends me this email:
>From Ê"Anony Mouse" <anony_mouse1969@hotmail.com> ÊÊ ÊMon, 23 Oct 2000
>17:44:17 -0500 Subject: Êokay I'm writing you To: Ê
From ??? Fri Feb 19 09: Ê25
From anony_mouse1969@hotmail.com Mon Oct 23 18: Ê46
[snip]
>X-Originating-IP: Ê[209.96.17.98]
>Date: ÊMon, 23 Oct 2000 17
>MIME-Version: Ê1.0
>Content-Type: Êmultipart/alternative;
>boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C03D18.DD858
>X-MSMail-Priority: ÊNormal X-Mailer: ÊMicrosoft Outlook Express
>5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: ÊProduced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
>Message-ID: Ê X-OriginalArrivalTime: Ê23 Oct 2000 22
>
>okay I (george) wrote you so can I have my account back please?
Now, anyone with a half a brain and a reverse-ip lookup can see that that
originating IP corresponds to postnet.com and Vlad's own account
(http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:home.postne
If that's a permanent ip address, then vlad deserves whatever he gets
from anyone here who is more learned in the h4xx0r ways than I.
(This is CP0029)
[luisa||||] it will be a lame asian thing4 191 :(/ pc/jul01/legendsMM01.jpg :( ;p9 945l 3.net) has joined #adequacy
[First_Incision] The Asians are just adopting all of the West's excesses. They will fall with us.
[luisa||||] this islam stuff will blow over
[luisa||||] and china will TAKE OVER THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!1
[First_Incision] The Muslims will pick up the pieces when the Internet causes us to implode
[county] I don't want to learn Chinese.
[county] I hope they just kill me when they take over.
[momocrome] I've already adopted the internet as a cybernetic extension, a third lobe if you will.
[momocrome] that makes me pretty damn smart
[momocrome] smart enough to out fox the elderly chinese!
[county] I need super powers.
[First_Incision] I like that Vonnegut book where the Chinese transform themselves into everpresent sentient germs
[First_Incision] but all of his books run together, so I can't remember what it was.
[county] If I had super powers, I just know I could accomplish those things that I wish to.
[momocrome] well, with or without super powers, I know you are a super-hero! =P
[county] Gee, thanks!
[momocrome] I think I will post my real phone number and address on trolltalk
[luisa||||] it is just about one am
[luisa||||] what the fuck shall i do tonight?
[county] Sometimes I imagine that I see momocrome, RobotSlave, or what not while out and about.
[county] Isn't that twisted?
[luisa||||] no
[momocrome] my GF would love all those crank calls and harrassing late night visits
[luisa||||] i wish i lived in seattle
[momocrome] I imagine that I see you too, county
[me0w] Good evening
[luisa||||] actually, no i don't
[momocrome] hi me0w
[county] momocrome, do you take the 2, 3, 4, 8, or 18?
[luisa||||] because county would look at me like that
[county] Or the 1.
[momocrome] I take the 18
[county] OK, that makes sense.
[momocrome] and the 522
[county] I used to take the 522 daily.
[First_Incision] Isn't seattle a degenerate city full of leftivists, starbucks customers, and starbucks vandalizers?
[momocrome] 522 is sound transit express tto lake city
[momocrome] FI, not at all
[luisa||||] seattle is full of sexy bitches
[county] Yes, I used to stay in Lake City.
[luisa||||] i like that in a town
[momocrome] it is mostly Young Urban Professionals
[county] The 18 isn't perfectly convenenient for me, but it works. Maybe I'll start taking it.
[county] That would be strange.
[momocrome] they drive volvos or VW jettas
[momocrome] doesn't it hit a nickerson route?
[momocrome] or is that leary...
[First_Incision] I think I'm a Young Urban Professional. It sucks.
[momocrome] hmm
[momocrome] you have a jetta!
[luisa||||] i am young, and urban
[momocrome] haw haw haw
[luisa||||] and drive a giant buick
[county] momocrome, I board the bus often at queen anne and mercer.
[momocrome] jk
[county] The 18 goes by there.
[momocrome] yes
[First_Incision] I drive an F-150. But I'm in the South.
[momocrome] I drive past frequently
[county] Strange.
[momocrome] er, ride past
[First_Incision] Volvo's don't seem to be too popular down here, but Jettas are.
[county] We've probably seen each other!
[momocrome] it is strange. I imagine I saw one of the London trolls when I was a tourist there sometimes
[momocrome] I saw / having seen
[luisa||||] my sibling used to drive one, until he crashed it, FI
[luisa||||] it's a pretty sweet truck
[First_Incision] It is. I enjoy it thoroughly.
[momocrome] I am almost set to get in an accident with an SUV and have the driver arrested for attempted murder or negligence or some such
[momocrome] whenever I can afford an attourney that will spell it out for me in a way no cop or prosecuter can deny
[county] momocrome, something odd I've noticed while riding the bus is the sheer number of drivers who seem to want to get hit by one.
[First_Incision] Oh, if I wanted to get into an accident, I know just the place. There is a stoplight out of my neighboorhood that is apparently optional
[First_Incision] People run through it with abandon
[momocrome] that would send shockwaves through the economy
[momocrome] indeed, county
[momocrome] and the sheer number of people that drink booze on the busses is weird, too.
[county] I haven't really noticed that.
[county] Isn't it against the rules?
[momocrome] especially considering how rare actual booze can be in WA
[momocrome] certainly
[county] Is booze rare?
[momocrome] and another weird thing is that food & drink and pets are _not_ against the rules
[momocrome] well, the state-run liquor stores aren't exactly common
[county] I not infrequently carry rather large amounts of booze on the bus.
[county] I feel awkward when I do.
[First_Incision] momocrome: do they have non-state-run liquor stores?
[county] Not that I care about being seen with booze, but I don't want people trying to steal it.
[momocrome] no
[county] Yes they do, momocrome.
[momocrome] really?
[county] Just not in Seattle.
[momocrome] i've never seen one
[momocrome] ah
[county] They're all in little dinky rural areas.
[momocrome] special dispensions for remote areas not worth investing state dollars in operating a store
[First_Incision] Malvo and Muhammad's first victim was in front of an Alabama state run liquour store. Coincidence? I think not.
[county] I think so, momocrome.
[county] I don't mind the state-run liquor stores.
[county] There's one right next to the grocery store I shop at.
[county] The place is clean, the selection good, and the staff is friendly and helpful.
[momocrome] yeah, at least you know the cigarettes aren't counterfeit
[First_Incision] I've never been to one. They are the small minority of liquor stores here.
[momocrome] in CA, that is the usual case. cheap mexican cigarettes are smuggled in and sold for normal prices, sans excise
[momocrome] the difference in quality is marked
[county] In California, spirits can be had anywhere.
[county] It's strange, to me.
[county] I've always lived in states that had tightly-restricted liquor laws.
[momocrome] but you can't smoke in restaurants
[First_Incision] It amazes me how in Indidana, there is literally a liquor store on every corner
[momocrome] i get creeped out being able to smoke in public places like that
[First_Incision] I hate it when people smoke around me.
[First_Incision] I HATE IT!
[me0w] I crave smoking.
[First_Incision] I want to harm them physically.
[momocrome] not that I am a heavy smoker... but I like one after meals and when drinking
[momocrome] FI, I want to harm people, or harass them at least, that hold your position
[luisa||||] i don't mind smokers
[luisa||||] i just am not round them so often
[First_Incision] why haven't there been riots over this yet?
[momocrome] especially those that see you smoking in an isolated area and come over, cough and glare at you
[First_Incision] We should meet up in a restaurant and start one
[momocrome] CA is horrible for that
[luisa||||] heheh
[momocrome] its like people know they can exert power over you, guilt you about smoking, and so go out of their way to position themsselves to do so
[First_Incision] I can't open my eyes when people are smoking around me. The pain is too much
[luisa||||] it was weird that cali grocery stores sold hard liquor
[luisa||||] i sorely wish i could buy booze at walmart here
[county] Why on earth would you want walmart booze?
[luisa||||] although i am fond of the liquor emporium
[First_Incision] Some day, teary-eyed, coughing and furious, I shall harm a smoker.
[momocrome] walmart? you should get booze at costco! it is worth the drive to another state and a membership
[luisa||||] it would be cheaper
[luisa||||] i wouldn't buy the store brand
[county] What state, momocrome?
[luisa||||] heh, i can just see that
[momocrome] a $20 bottle is $6 at costco
[luisa||||] sam's club vodka
[luisa||||] sheeit
[momocrome] well, for us I think it is just CA or ID
[county] That's fantastic, momocrome. Where?
[county] OK.
[momocrome] heh
[county] Do you want to drive to Idaho next time we get paid?
[luisa||||] see, i have to pay 200 for a plane ticket there
[momocrome] you're on!
[county] It'll be fun.
[luisa||||] not including the membership fee
[momocrome] you'l have to rent a car
[luisa||||] cali is closer
[luisa||||] i think
[momocrome] I've got a costco card though
[luisa||||] well, blow me down
[momocrome] luisa||||, a CA costcois not so close
[county] Idaho and California are both far away, but I think Idaho might be a bit closer.
[momocrome] probably nothing north of Sacrement
[momocrome] i
[county] Is there a Costco in Redding?
[momocrome] o
[county] Oh, that far.
[luisa||||] ah, i figure there was one up north
[momocrome] dunno
[momocrome] maybe
[county] No closer than Redding, I would guess, and that's a drive.
[momocrome] hang on
[First_Incision] well, I'm going to sleep.
[momocrome] yes there is one
[First_Incision] nite
[momocrome] nighteo
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[luisa||||] oh, there are loads of them in texas
[luisa||||] one a few miles from me
[luisa||||] it says there is one in seattle
[momocrome] AHQ!
[county] There is, luisa.
[momocrome] the company is headquartered in Seattle
[luisa||||] but i'm using their warehouse locator
[county] momocrome, here's the plan.
[luisa||||] so fuck knows if that means i can buy stuff there
[momocrome] nothing about booze on the website so far
[county] We'll drive to Redding, buy lots of booze, drop by Houston, sell some to luisa at a profit, then drive back here.
[luisa||||] haha
[luisa||||] if i can go to a houston costco
[luisa||||] i wouldn't need your liquor!
[county] No, see, we'd get you really drunk and then we'd steal your wallet and flee to Seattle.
[luisa||||] i have no wallet
[county] Where do you carry your money?
[luisa||||] wouldn't you like to know.
[county] Well, that is why I asked, I suppose.
[luisa||||] mostly i don't carry
[luisa||||] unless i am getting groceries or something
[county] Hmm. I always have money, but then, other people don't buy me things.
[luisa||||] people used to more often
[luisa||||] but that was when i was not so morose
[county] I've always been reserved, not morose, though.
[luisa||||] that always makes me dizzy in a guy
[luisa||||] because so many have trouble sorting themselves in public or private with females
[county] How do you mean? Maybe we just prefer to ignore females.
[momocrome] damn
[momocrome] luisa||||, I was pursuing the theory that you were a guy earlier today, because women usually don't refer to male humans as bis, but gay men do
[momocrome] bis, boys
[momocrome] your use of the word guy a moment ago shoots that theory to hell
[momocrome] men usually don't refer to boys as guys, see.
[county] What do we refer to them as?
[luisa||||] i'm a lass, right enough
[momocrome] well, usually, asshole or bastard
[momocrome] but otherewise, men or fellas
[luisa||||] by sorting, i mean when they are round a girl they like, county
[luisa||||] or girls they like
[county] Oh, I ignore them too, luisa.
[county] I have a system, and it works.
[luisa||||] that makes no sense
[luisa||||] how can they like you if you never let them?
[county] Well, I don't see how that's any of my concern. I'm not required to accommodate people who might wish to like me.
[momocrome] heh
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[momocrome] a #adequacy mocking
[momocrome] http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=20721&cid=468
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[county] hehe
[momocrome] there are a couple of them
[luisa||||] so but yeah, that is a case of Too Much Spare Time
[county] I like having too much spare time.
[momocrome] that is the essence of this very world
[county] The very essence, even.
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[county] Verily.
[county] Enter the stunning demi-god.
[luisa||||] rehi
[momocrome] hooboo
[luisa||||] god, advogato bites
[county] You bight!
[momocrome] vlad! the are mocking you soo hard in trolltalk, but this one was funny- "Fuck you. Ever see the movie Leon: the Professional? That's the kind of martial arts I practice. The first lesson will be free. Are you prepared for my Natalie Portman Stance???"
[county] Natalie Portman is a tart.
[county] Although, I have to admit, I'd hit it.
[luisa||||] she is pleasant enough
[luisa||||] but i base that on her star wars two costumes
[luisa||||] because i would steal nearly all of them for my own.
[county] Sans tears, I should hope.
[luisa||||] oh, aye
[county] The only one I can really recall is the white one.
[momocrome] i would take a tear encrusted costume from her
[momocrome] I would make her cry.
[county] You wouldn't, though.
[county] You might permit yourself to briefly think about it while she bossed you around, I'll grant you that.
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[vladequacy] i would make her cry cause she wouldn't know who I am
[county] She'd weep out of longing to know you?
[vladequacy] oh no
[county] You're not making much sense.
[vladequacy] she'd weep at the sight of my ski mask!
[vladequacy] no no no
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[county] You (thankfully) haven't it in you.
[momocrome] it is true
[county] It might be fun to make luisa cry, but I'm sure it would require more time and effort than it's worth.
[momocrome] it might be easy
[county] You're right, it might be.
[momocrome] just wisper to her every night about her shortcomings
[county] Every night?
[county] How many nights?
[momocrome] and then set it up to say two or three keywords in a certain sequence to crush her will
[county] See, that's what I meant by time.
[momocrome] those would be nights spent next to her lithe figure, though
[momocrome] not a waste, a benefit
[county] You've an interesting idea about the female psyche, momocrome.
[me0w] Night night
[momocrome] night
* momocrome fetches 'nother beer
[county] OK, so I whisper the words, she cries, then what?
[county] Can I grind her to dust and throw her into the wind?
[momocrome] sure
[momocrome] or change her being for the simple thrill
[momocrome] mold her life to your whim
[momocrome] whatever suits your fancy
[momocrome] I am turning my girl into a goth
[county] I thought she was to begin with.
[momocrome] just cause she 'hates goths'
[county] Or was she more a punk?
[momocrome] well, she is goth-ish without admitting it
[county] So you're not actually doing anything at all, just taking credit for a preexistent state of affairs.
[momocrome] and somewhat punk. bitch is probably a better description
[momocrome] heh
[county] Or is that too much honesty?
[county] I can tone it down, if you like.
[momocrome] no. I have turned her around
[momocrome] now, for example, she listens mostly to bands like Joy Division, Bauhaus and Sisters of Mercy
[momocrome] in her car
[momocrome] sheonce hit me with her fist for daring to suggest such dreadful music!
[momocrome] bah
[momocrome] tastes change
[momocrome] I can't honestly take credit for it
[county] She hit you with her fist?
[county] And you tolerated it!?
[momocrome] why not?
[momocrome] it is well within my threshold to tolerate
[county] It's quite disrespectful.
[momocrome] she is 'spunky' like that
[momocrome] she throws things at walls
[momocrome] slams doors
[momocrome] hangs up on people
[county] Sounds like my sister, of whom I am not particularly fond.
[luisa||||] heh
[momocrome] is your sister self absorbed and tempermental?
[luisa||||] you couldn't make me cry that way, county
[luisa||||] emotional torture is bad form and doesn't really work
[momocrome] my GF is not self absorbed or tempermental
[momocrome] she is obstinate and hysterical
[momocrome] hmm
[momocrome] maybe I am drunk?
[county] luisa, I would make you cry somehow.
[momocrome] the fastest road to this destination is with puppy murder
[momocrome] get a puppy, let her fawn over it a bit, then hack its' head clean off
[county] I will make you cry, I do so swear.
[luisa||||] nah, you cannot
[momocrome] it is how the Nazis trained their officers
[luisa||||] i don't always know why i cry
[luisa||||] but i do know boys aren't able to make it happen
[county] I don't care how long I have to employ arcane magic and technology to keep us both alive, but I will make you cry.
[county] Even if I must delight you, bore you, torture you, romance you, shun you, and pleasure you for tens of thousands of years, I will succeed.
[luisa||||] nope, you'll not
[county] We'll see who has the last laugh.
[luisa||||] hehe.
[county] That was a laugh, sure, but was it the last?
[county] Haha!
[county] Apparently not.
[luisa||||] hoho!
[county] Oh stop, you.
[luisa||||] certainement, chere
[momocrome] county, luisa||||, I hate to mention this
[county] Yet you're going to anyway?
[county] Why, I wonder?
[momocrome] but if those pics floating around of luisa|||| are accurate
[momocrome] she is my ideal woman
[county] Well, which ones?
[momocrome] i am compelled to finally mention it
[momocrome] by way of booze
[county] She doesn't actually look like a monkey, if those are the ones you're thinking of.
[momocrome] do you suppose those are the ones to which I refer?
[momocrome] I am probably just grasping at any outlet though
[county] Well, are you talking about the ones of a topless young black girl with a tattoo?
[momocrome] she was wearing a nice dress in the photos I saw
[momocrome] don't recall toplessness
[momocrome] bc had them on his server
[county] The topless girl with the tattoo isn't luisa.
[county] There are some ones of the real luisa wearing scandelously short dresses and skirts, though.
[momocrome] those are probably the ones I am thinking of
[county] OK.
[county] Well, get in line, buddy.
[momocrome] no prob'
[momocrome] i already have a girl, after all
[county] Yes, rub that in.
[county] Son of a bitch!
[luisa||||] yeah, i notice that about guys
[luisa||||] they find me quite attractive
[momocrome] and a bunch of airline miles!
[luisa||||] but at the end of the day, i haven't got them as boyfriends
[luisa||||] some less hot chick does
[momocrome] I can even upgrade to first class en route to Houston
[luisa||||] what's up with that?
[county] God damn you, luisa.
[county] bc took me off the access list, and I know it's your fault.
[momocrome] you'd have your pick in Seattle
[luisa||||] bc loves you
[luisa||||] no i wouldn't
[luisa||||] they wouldn't even talk to me
[county] He thinks I'm tempermental, untrustworthy, and fiery, though.
[luisa||||] just stare and smile some
[county] He doesn't think I'm fit to hold power.
[luisa||||] well, you are at that
[momocrome] well, if either qpt or I saw you on the bus, we'd both make our moves
[luisa||||] pfft
[luisa||||] well, i know qp is a doll
[momocrome] I am a Viking Warlord of a doll
[luisa||||] but i only like blond things for sport
[county] I'm not sure I'd recognize luisa.
[luisa||||] and qp is blonde
[county] I'm not.
[luisa||||] well, you should be
[momocrome] sure, shoot me down already.
[momocrome]
[luisa||||] next you'll be telling me you're not attractive, either
[momocrome] I might be as handsome as Yanni!
[luisa||||] and that you aren't a boy at all.
[county] I could say all of that.
[county] Have, at one point or another.
[luisa||||] so you are a girl?
[county] No, I'm not, sadly.
[luisa||||] a pity
[luisa||||] i like girls for sport well enough
[county] What sort of sport?
[momocrome] that's itg.
[momocrome] dammit
[momocrome] I have a hangnail all bandaged up
[momocrome] disrupts the typing
[luisa||||] what a night
[momocrome] you scoff.
[luisa||||] i chose irc and light reading and 80s music at home over 80s music in a club and loads of pointless drinking
[momocrome] but I tried to proclaim my love
[luisa||||] eh, you are drunqk and claimed
[luisa||||] and also non-local
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[county] I tried to proclaim my love, too.
[luisa||||] you are also drunk and non-local
[luisa||||] also, i have no idea what you look like
[county] You are so shallow!
[county] And you do know. bc showed you a picture.
[county] I asked him and he confirmed.
[luisa||||] i have no idea what picture
[county] I looked for it the other day, it wasn't online anymore.
[luisa||||] a shame
[county] It was a poor picture, anyway.
[county] I've gotten better looking in my twenties. I was quite pleased.
[luisa||||] well, it's no matter to me
[county] Yes it is. You prefer not to look at ugly pictures.
[luisa||||] you are either pasty faced dork or rather decent looking
[county] Everyone does.
[luisa||||] i shall never know which
* county gets an idea.
[county] If I were really pasty and really dorky, might you be brought to tears at the sight of me?
[luisa||||] no.
[luisa||||] else i'd weep daily
[luisa||||] just from walking around and about
[county] What's your opinion of ubu's picture?
[county] I was rather surprised.
[county] I'm not convinced it's him.
[luisa||||] if that is him, goddamn
[luisa||||] that's really it.
[county] And to think, he's been hitting on li'l ol' me!
[county] I feel flattered.
[luisa||||] heheh
[luisa||||] the thing is though
[luisa||||] it would be totally typical for a boy like him to look like that
[county] How do you mean?
[momocrome] http://www.gamesdomain.com/gdreview/zones/reviews
[luisa||||] i knew a guy similar in personality to him online
[momocrome] images fdrom a game I made
[luisa||||] the guy was so cagey about his appearance
[luisa||||] but he was super fucking gorgeous
[luisa||||] but also an invalid recluse who resided on his parents' estate
[luisa||||] i miss him sometimes
[county] haha! So you've mistaken my own hesitance to give out a picture for attractiveness.
[county] That's amusing.
[luisa||||] in your case, no
[county] You have to realize that most people who don't want to be seen simply do it out of ugliness.
[luisa||||] i was speaking of ubu's image that he chose to pony up
[luisa||||] nearly all the cagey guys i have met first online were superhot
[luisa||||] they just felt they lacked appeal
[county] I know that you were talking about ubu, but I was noting that it explained your somewhat bizarre notions about me.
[luisa||||] k5 has unfortunately shown me the more homely-ass end of the spectrum
[county] I don't know why you can't accept me as I am
[luisa||||] i haven't any idea what you am
[luisa||||] as in other areas of my life, i was horribly spoilt in my early online experiences
[luisa||||] pretty much everyone was very physically attractive, and also fun to hang out with offline
[luisa||||] mostly the people i get along with best online are also physically attractive
[momocrome] county's eyes arent gray.
[luisa||||] not every time, but 9/10
[momocrome] they are green-brown
[luisa||||] don't taunt, momo
[momocrome] mine are gray.
[luisa||||] green-brown is one of my favourite colours for eyes
[momocrome] also, I can track raccoon by the merest trace of their spoor
[luisa||||] grey can be interesting, but depends on the lad
[luisa||||] i am sure that is very nice.
[county] My eyes are green-brown. I've medium brown hair, and I'm caucasian, but with a fair amount of Iberian blood in me.
[momocrome] gray is the premium eye colour. don't fool yourself.
[luisa||||] pfft
[luisa||||] well, you sound pretty enough
[momocrome] Iberian isn't caucasian?
[luisa||||] if the boys i have known like that are anything to go on
[momocrome] I suppose it is moorish mixed
[momocrome] I am norse.
[county] momocrome is also fat.
[momocrome] bah!
[county] A big, fat viking.
[county] With a braided beard.
[luisa||||] haha
[county] He pillaged his bride from a nearby village.
[county] ^ Poetry.
[luisa||||] haha
[luisa||||] i am a sexy bitch who wishes boys liked her in a long term relationship way
[momocrome] I have been with my GF for 3 years 11 months
[momocrome] I have staying power
[luisa||||] yes, for her
[county] luisa, never trust a guy who leaves someone to be with you.
[luisa||||] i want a superhot boy who is clever
[luisa||||] and who wants me for a long time
[momocrome] well, since we haven't married, perhaps we need to move on now.
[luisa||||] i quite despair of ever attaining that
[county] You just don't strike me as the committing type, luisa.
[luisa||||] since bc is my evil twin
[momocrome] bc would marry you
[luisa||||] we could never marry, or even date, even when i am in scotland
[luisa||||] we could probably hang out some
[luisa||||] but anything more wouldn't even make sense at this point
[county] You seem too self-absorbed to be faithful. Faithfulness, though the rough spots, requires a real selflessness, and you don't appear to exhibit that. That's not to say that you couldn't be selfless, I have no idea. You don't seem it, though.
[luisa||||] i am very self-contained
[luisa||||] it has been a source of stress in every really serious thing with a guy
[luisa||||] also i have no tolerance for idiocy
[county] Guys are used to women being somewhat unreserved in their expressions of emotion. Maybe your aloofness is mistaken for lack of interest.
[momocrome] or frigidity
[county] Aye.
[luisa||||] well, i am warm enough in physical aspects
* em is back
[luisa||||] i just am cold outside physical expressions of intimacy
[luisa||||] hullo, em
[em] wrote another conference abstract, forgot to have dinner.
[luisa||||] korean
[county] The physical aspect isn't enough, though.
[luisa||||] man, because of you, the girls at the restaurant think i've been to korea
[em] who, me?
[luisa||||] because i can say all the dishes correctly
[county] It would just make you seem sluttish.
[em] bibimbap dolsat?
[em] kimchi?
[luisa||||] oh, there's loads of other things besides those
[em] those are all I know, so don't blame me, dammit
[luisa||||] haha, but i love them all
* em wrote a semi-sane abstract tonight
[luisa||||] sluts regret and get emotionally attached, though
[luisa||||] i don't
[momocrome] the most passionate and violent racists I have ever known are koreans that hate other koreans.
[em] and had a meeting earlier today with one of my profs about the crazy one I did yesterday
[county] Then you're even worse than a slut, then, if you feel no emotional attachment?
[em] He said: "I thought you were too young to write such Grand Old Man abstracts!"
[em] and then kind of mocked me by reading the first couple of sentences with an imitation of Roman Jakobson's accent.
[em] (yeah, my prof was a friend of Jakobson. sue me.)
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[luisa||||] i feel emotional attachment
* em thinks Linux should be banned in this channel.
[luisa||||] it is just not something i bother the boy with
[county] You just said you didn't.
[county] The boy wants to be bothered with it, you nut!
[Linux] em, I think they are ripping on you in trolltalk
[luisa||||] no, that is just asking for rejection
[county] Of course, and there's the rub.
[em] luisa||||: i think you care too much.
[luisa||||] i always reject guys who want me lots
[Linux] em, with your actual christian name
[em] what's the URL for trolltalk?
* em is mildly curious.
[county] Maybe there are some guys who are more charitable than you, luisa.
[county] I suspect there are.
[Linux] http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=20721&cid=467
[luisa||||] i haven't met any
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[county] Anyway, wanting you a lot right after meeting you and wanting you a lot after a few months of seeing each other frequently strike me as crucially different states of affairs.
[luisa||||] well, i reject in both cases
[luisa||||] usually because the guy isn't the right sort for my tastes
[county] Why?
[luisa||||] the ones i want will not suffer through the emotional coldness to stay with me
[county] What do you want? To love and be loved, but never admit it or have it be admitted to you?
* em looks at the trolltalk thing.
* em yawns.
[luisa||||] heh, probably, county
[Linux] there is a traiteor in the midst of the old inchfan crowd
[Linux] traitor
[Linux] gah
[Linux] ok, just thought you should know
* em yawns.
[county] Suffer through it? Why would they? From their perspective, you're frigid or not interested, and sticking around would be foolish and self-indulgent. They're only trying to make a graceful retreat when they can.
[em] who the hell is matt stanton?
[Linux] no idea
[Linux] it does bring up your stanford page as the first hit on google
[Linux] and judging by how hard they are harassing vlad, i'd keep an eye on things
* em doesn't really care by now.
[county] I'm glad my name wasn't on that list.
[county] I don't want to be targeted by those freaks!
[luisa||||] they know i'm interested, county
[county] Interested really isn't enough.
[county] Interested is wasting their time, after a point.
[county] They need to know you have some level of commitment.
[luisa||||] i'd stay only with them and not have any others, if they asked
[luisa||||] the boys i tend to like
[luisa||||] but they seem to all think i should be with someone more attractive physically
[county] Can you honestly be so dense?
* em realizes who Matt Stanton is, and simultaneously, the identity of the perpetrator.
[Linux] osm
[Linux] not that I know who matt stanton is
[county] Who is Matt Stanton?
[Linux] they are calling the whole bunch + vlad 'Vladequacy' and targetting all
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[luisa|||] how am i dense when the boys are the ones saying i'm too pretty for them to deserve?
[county] luisa, the simple fact is that until you're willing to make yourself more emotionally vulnerable, you will never find what you want.
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From: Barry Corrigan <barry@bjcorrigan.fsnet.co.uk>
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] talk about smoking crack...
Date sent: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 07:41:16 +0000
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
I find it interesting that it is possible to extend your ego to the internet to the degree that siggy seems to have done. I haven't used the
internet for very long (thats the UK for you), but I can certainly see how its possible to end up actually caring about some online persona.
Personally, I don't give a shit, but thats because I don't have an online persona that is actually me (does this post negate that? I'm not telling you
creepy. Perhaps its a Britain-America thing, I've heard that Americans are not shy, in fact sometimes I think they have never heard of the concept of embarrassment. So there you go
Sorry for this bollocks.
On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, you wrote:
> Hi. I couldn't stay away, so I scrounged up some 'net
> access. Hi.
>
> I was talking with rusty indirectly about this, last
> night. He was asking me why I wanted k5 Anne Marie's
> nick -- that is, why I wanted to carry that "slashdot
> baggage" over with me to k5, the same way siggy did.
> It's funny, that way. I wanted k5 Anne Marie because
> it's a lovely character troll of mine. Siggy wanted
> "Signal 11" because it's the only way he's ever gotten
> a lot of (any) attention. He's afraid to be just
> Bojay Iverson, and it really comes across.
>
> --- Barry Corrigan
> wrote:
> >
> > Wow. I think I understand now why everyone seems to
> > dislike Signal 11 so much.
> > I mean, that has to be one of the most arrogant
> > things I've read, ohhh, all
> > week!
> > It was also extremely funny. Does he think he is an
> > internet celebrity or
> > something? In that post he came across as a jaded
> > Hollywood star.
> > Oh well, back to the horribleness of Java...
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, you wrote:
> > >
> >
> http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=comments&sid=2000/12/
> > >
> > > "Most of the best trolls on slashdot, I suspect,
> > were inspired by me. "
> > >
> > > i actually feel sorry for the guy. he needs some
> attention.
[luisa||||] it will be a lame asian thing4 191 :(/ pc/jul01/legendsMM01.jpg :( ;p9 945l 3.net) has joined #adequacy
[First_Incision] The Asians are just adopting all of the West's excesses. They will fall with us.
[luisa||||] this islam stuff will blow over
[luisa||||] and china will TAKE OVER THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!1
[First_Incision] The Muslims will pick up the pieces when the Internet causes us to implode
[county] I don't want to learn Chinese.
[county] I hope they just kill me when they take over.
[momocrome] I've already adopted the internet as a cybernetic extension, a third lobe if you will.
[momocrome] that makes me pretty damn smart
[momocrome] smart enough to out fox the elderly chinese!
[county] I need super powers.
[First_Incision] I like that Vonnegut book where the Chinese transform themselves into everpresent sentient germs
[First_Incision] but all of his books run together, so I can't remember what it was.
[county] If I had super powers, I just know I could accomplish those things that I wish to.
[momocrome] well, with or without super powers, I know you are a super-hero! =P
[county] Gee, thanks!
[momocrome] I think I will post my real phone number and address on trolltalk
[luisa||||] it is just about one am
[luisa||||] what the fuck shall i do tonight?
[county] Sometimes I imagine that I see momocrome, RobotSlave, or what not while out and about.
[county] Isn't that twisted?
[luisa||||] no
[momocrome] my GF would love all those crank calls and harrassing late night visits
[luisa||||] i wish i lived in seattle
[momocrome] I imagine that I see you too, county
[me0w] Good evening
[luisa||||] actually, no i don't
[momocrome] hi me0w
[county] momocrome, do you take the 2, 3, 4, 8, or 18?
[luisa||||] because county would look at me like that
[county] Or the 1.
[momocrome] I take the 18
[county] OK, that makes sense.
[momocrome] and the 522
[county] I used to take the 522 daily.
[First_Incision] Isn't seattle a degenerate city full of leftivists, starbucks customers, and starbucks vandalizers?
[momocrome] 522 is sound transit express tto lake city
[momocrome] FI, not at all
[luisa||||] seattle is full of sexy bitches
[county] Yes, I used to stay in Lake City.
[luisa||||] i like that in a town
[momocrome] it is mostly Young Urban Professionals
[county] The 18 isn't perfectly convenenient for me, but it works. Maybe I'll start taking it.
[county] That would be strange.
[momocrome] they drive volvos or VW jettas
[momocrome] doesn't it hit a nickerson route?
[momocrome] or is that leary...
[First_Incision] I think I'm a Young Urban Professional. It sucks.
[momocrome] hmm
[momocrome] you have a jetta!
[luisa||||] i am young, and urban
[momocrome] haw haw haw
[luisa||||] and drive a giant buick
[county] momocrome, I board the bus often at queen anne and mercer.
[momocrome] jk
[county] The 18 goes by there.
[momocrome] yes
[First_Incision] I drive an F-150. But I'm in the South.
[momocrome] I drive past frequently
[county] Strange.
[momocrome] er, ride past
[First_Incision] Volvo's don't seem to be too popular down here, but Jettas are.
[county] We've probably seen each other!
[momocrome] it is strange. I imagine I saw one of the London trolls when I was a tourist there sometimes
[momocrome] I saw / having seen
[luisa||||] my sibling used to drive one, until he crashed it, FI
[luisa||||] it's a pretty sweet truck
[First_Incision] It is. I enjoy it thoroughly.
[momocrome] I am almost set to get in an accident with an SUV and have the driver arrested for attempted murder or negligence or some such
[momocrome] whenever I can afford an attourney that will spell it out for me in a way no cop or prosecuter can deny
[county] momocrome, something odd I've noticed while riding the bus is the sheer number of drivers who seem to want to get hit by one.
[First_Incision] Oh, if I wanted to get into an accident, I know just the place. There is a stoplight out of my neighboorhood that is apparently optional
[First_Incision] People run through it with abandon
[momocrome] that would send shockwaves through the economy
[momocrome] indeed, county
[momocrome] and the sheer number of people that drink booze on the busses is weird, too.
[county] I haven't really noticed that.
[county] Isn't it against the rules?
[momocrome] especially considering how rare actual booze can be in WA
[momocrome] certainly
[county] Is booze rare?
[momocrome] and another weird thing is that food & drink and pets are _not_ against the rules
[momocrome] well, the state-run liquor stores aren't exactly common
[county] I not infrequently carry rather large amounts of booze on the bus.
[county] I feel awkward when I do.
[First_Incision] momocrome: do they have non-state-run liquor stores?
[county] Not that I care about being seen with booze, but I don't want people trying to steal it.
[momocrome] no
[county] Yes they do, momocrome.
[momocrome] really?
[county] Just not in Seattle.
[momocrome] i've never seen one
[momocrome] ah
[county] They're all in little dinky rural areas.
[momocrome] special dispensions for remote areas not worth investing state dollars in operating a store
[First_Incision] Malvo and Muhammad's first victim was in front of an Alabama state run liquour store. Coincidence? I think not.
[county] I think so, momocrome.
[county] I don't mind the state-run liquor stores.
[county] There's one right next to the grocery store I shop at.
[county] The place is clean, the selection good, and the staff is friendly and helpful.
[momocrome] yeah, at least you know the cigarettes aren't counterfeit
[First_Incision] I've never been to one. They are the small minority of liquor stores here.
[momocrome] in CA, that is the usual case. cheap mexican cigarettes are smuggled in and sold for normal prices, sans excise
[momocrome] the difference in quality is marked
[county] In California, spirits can be had anywhere.
[county] It's strange, to me.
[county] I've always lived in states that had tightly-restricted liquor laws.
[momocrome] but you can't smoke in restaurants
[First_Incision] It amazes me how in Indidana, there is literally a liquor store on every corner
[momocrome] i get creeped out being able to smoke in public places like that
[First_Incision] I hate it when people smoke around me.
[First_Incision] I HATE IT!
[me0w] I crave smoking.
[First_Incision] I want to harm them physically.
[momocrome] not that I am a heavy smoker... but I like one after meals and when drinking
[momocrome] FI, I want to harm people, or harass them at least, that hold your position
[luisa||||] i don't mind smokers
[luisa||||] i just am not round them so often
[First_Incision] why haven't there been riots over this yet?
[momocrome] especially those that see you smoking in an isolated area and come over, cough and glare at you
[First_Incision] We should meet up in a restaurant and start one
[momocrome] CA is horrible for that
[luisa||||] heheh
[momocrome] its like people know they can exert power over you, guilt you about smoking, and so go out of their way to position themsselves to do so
[First_Incision] I can't open my eyes when people are smoking around me. The pain is too much
[luisa||||] it was weird that cali grocery stores sold hard liquor
[luisa||||] i sorely wish i could buy booze at walmart here
[county] Why on earth would you want walmart booze?
[luisa||||] although i am fond of the liquor emporium
[First_Incision] Some day, teary-eyed, coughing and furious, I shall harm a smoker.
[momocrome] walmart? you should get booze at costco! it is worth the drive to another state and a membership
[luisa||||] it would be cheaper
[luisa||||] i wouldn't buy the store brand
[county] What state, momocrome?
[luisa||||] heh, i can just see that
[momocrome] a $20 bottle is $6 at costco
[luisa||||] sam's club vodka
[luisa||||] sheeit
[momocrome] well, for us I think it is just CA or ID
[county] That's fantastic, momocrome. Where?
[county] OK.
[momocrome] heh
[county] Do you want to drive to Idaho next time we get paid?
[luisa||||] see, i have to pay 200 for a plane ticket there
[momocrome] you're on!
[county] It'll be fun.
[luisa||||] not including the membership fee
[momocrome] you'l have to rent a car
[luisa||||] cali is closer
[luisa||||] i think
[momocrome] I've got a costco card though
[luisa||||] well, blow me down
[momocrome] luisa||||, a CA costcois not so close
[county] Idaho and California are both far away, but I think Idaho might be a bit closer.
[momocrome] probably nothing north of Sacrement
[momocrome] i
[county] Is there a Costco in Redding?
[momocrome] o
[county] Oh, that far.
[luisa||||] ah, i figure there was one up north
[momocrome] dunno
[momocrome] maybe
[county] No closer than Redding, I would guess, and that's a drive.
[momocrome] hang on
[First_Incision] well, I'm going to sleep.
[momocrome] yes there is one
[First_Incision] nite
[momocrome] nighteo
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[luisa||||] oh, there are loads of them in texas
[luisa||||] one a few miles from me
[luisa||||] it says there is one in seattle
[momocrome] AHQ!
[county] There is, luisa.
[momocrome] the company is headquartered in Seattle
[luisa||||] but i'm using their warehouse locator
[county] momocrome, here's the plan.
[luisa||||] so fuck knows if that means i can buy stuff there
[momocrome] nothing about booze on the website so far
[county] We'll drive to Redding, buy lots of booze, drop by Houston, sell some to luisa at a profit, then drive back here.
[luisa||||] haha
[luisa||||] if i can go to a houston costco
[luisa||||] i wouldn't need your liquor!
[county] No, see, we'd get you really drunk and then we'd steal your wallet and flee to Seattle.
[luisa||||] i have no wallet
[county] Where do you carry your money?
[luisa||||] wouldn't you like to know.
[county] Well, that is why I asked, I suppose.
[luisa||||] mostly i don't carry
[luisa||||] unless i am getting groceries or something
[county] Hmm. I always have money, but then, other people don't buy me things.
[luisa||||] people used to more often
[luisa||||] but that was when i was not so morose
[county] I've always been reserved, not morose, though.
[luisa||||] that always makes me dizzy in a guy
[luisa||||] because so many have trouble sorting themselves in public or private with females
[county] How do you mean? Maybe we just prefer to ignore females.
[momocrome] damn
[momocrome] luisa||||, I was pursuing the theory that you were a guy earlier today, because women usually don't refer to male humans as bis, but gay men do
[momocrome] bis, boys
[momocrome] your use of the word guy a moment ago shoots that theory to hell
[momocrome] men usually don't refer to boys as guys, see.
[county] What do we refer to them as?
[luisa||||] i'm a lass, right enough
[momocrome] well, usually, asshole or bastard
[momocrome] but otherewise, men or fellas
[luisa||||] by sorting, i mean when they are round a girl they like, county
[luisa||||] or girls they like
[county] Oh, I ignore them too, luisa.
[county] I have a system, and it works.
[luisa||||] that makes no sense
[luisa||||] how can they like you if you never let them?
[county] Well, I don't see how that's any of my concern. I'm not required to accommodate people who might wish to like me.
[momocrome] heh
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[momocrome] a #adequacy mocking
[momocrome] http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=20721&cid=468
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[county] hehe
[momocrome] there are a couple of them
[luisa||||] so but yeah, that is a case of Too Much Spare Time
[county] I like having too much spare time.
[momocrome] that is the essence of this very world
[county] The very essence, even.
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[county] Verily.
[county] Enter the stunning demi-god.
[luisa||||] rehi
[momocrome] hooboo
[luisa||||] god, advogato bites
[county] You bight!
[momocrome] vlad! the are mocking you soo hard in trolltalk, but this one was funny- "Fuck you. Ever see the movie Leon: the Professional? That's the kind of martial arts I practice. The first lesson will be free. Are you prepared for my Natalie Portman Stance???"
[county] Natalie Portman is a tart.
[county] Although, I have to admit, I'd hit it.
[luisa||||] she is pleasant enough
[luisa||||] but i base that on her star wars two costumes
[luisa||||] because i would steal nearly all of them for my own.
[county] Sans tears, I should hope.
[luisa||||] oh, aye
[county] The only one I can really recall is the white one.
[momocrome] i would take a tear encrusted costume from her
[momocrome] I would make her cry.
[county] You wouldn't, though.
[county] You might permit yourself to briefly think about it while she bossed you around, I'll grant you that.
*** momocrome is now known as vladequacy
[vladequacy] i would make her cry cause she wouldn't know who I am
[county] She'd weep out of longing to know you?
[vladequacy] oh no
[county] You're not making much sense.
[vladequacy] she'd weep at the sight of my ski mask!
[vladequacy] no no no
*** vladequacy is now known as momocrome
[county] You (thankfully) haven't it in you.
[momocrome] it is true
[county] It might be fun to make luisa cry, but I'm sure it would require more time and effort than it's worth.
[momocrome] it might be easy
[county] You're right, it might be.
[momocrome] just wisper to her every night about her shortcomings
[county] Every night?
[county] How many nights?
[momocrome] and then set it up to say two or three keywords in a certain sequence to crush her will
[county] See, that's what I meant by time.
[momocrome] those would be nights spent next to her lithe figure, though
[momocrome] not a waste, a benefit
[county] You've an interesting idea about the female psyche, momocrome.
[me0w] Night night
[momocrome] night
* momocrome fetches 'nother beer
[county] OK, so I whisper the words, she cries, then what?
[county] Can I grind her to dust and throw her into the wind?
[momocrome] sure
[momocrome] or change her being for the simple thrill
[momocrome] mold her life to your whim
[momocrome] whatever suits your fancy
[momocrome] I am turning my girl into a goth
[county] I thought she was to begin with.
[momocrome] just cause she 'hates goths'
[county] Or was she more a punk?
[momocrome] well, she is goth-ish without admitting it
[county] So you're not actually doing anything at all, just taking credit for a preexistent state of affairs.
[momocrome] and somewhat punk. bitch is probably a better description
[momocrome] heh
[county] Or is that too much honesty?
[county] I can tone it down, if you like.
[momocrome] no. I have turned her around
[momocrome] now, for example, she listens mostly to bands like Joy Division, Bauhaus and Sisters of Mercy
[momocrome] in her car
[momocrome] sheonce hit me with her fist for daring to suggest such dreadful music!
[momocrome] bah
[momocrome] tastes change
[momocrome] I can't honestly take credit for it
[county] She hit you with her fist?
[county] And you tolerated it!?
[momocrome] why not?
[momocrome] it is well within my threshold to tolerate
[county] It's quite disrespectful.
[momocrome] she is 'spunky' like that
[momocrome] she throws things at walls
[momocrome] slams doors
[momocrome] hangs up on people
[county] Sounds like my sister, of whom I am not particularly fond.
[luisa||||] heh
[momocrome] is your sister self absorbed and tempermental?
[luisa||||] you couldn't make me cry that way, county
[luisa||||] emotional torture is bad form and doesn't really work
[momocrome] my GF is not self absorbed or tempermental
[momocrome] she is obstinate and hysterical
[momocrome] hmm
[momocrome] maybe I am drunk?
[county] luisa, I would make you cry somehow.
[momocrome] the fastest road to this destination is with puppy murder
[momocrome] get a puppy, let her fawn over it a bit, then hack its' head clean off
[county] I will make you cry, I do so swear.
[luisa||||] nah, you cannot
[momocrome] it is how the Nazis trained their officers
[luisa||||] i don't always know why i cry
[luisa||||] but i do know boys aren't able to make it happen
[county] I don't care how long I have to employ arcane magic and technology to keep us both alive, but I will make you cry.
[county] Even if I must delight you, bore you, torture you, romance you, shun you, and pleasure you for tens of thousands of years, I will succeed.
[luisa||||] nope, you'll not
[county] We'll see who has the last laugh.
[luisa||||] hehe.
[county] That was a laugh, sure, but was it the last?
[county] Haha!
[county] Apparently not.
[luisa||||] hoho!
[county] Oh stop, you.
[luisa||||] certainement, chere
[momocrome] county, luisa||||, I hate to mention this
[county] Yet you're going to anyway?
[county] Why, I wonder?
[momocrome] but if those pics floating around of luisa|||| are accurate
[momocrome] she is my ideal woman
[county] Well, which ones?
[momocrome] i am compelled to finally mention it
[momocrome] by way of booze
[county] She doesn't actually look like a monkey, if those are the ones you're thinking of.
[momocrome] do you suppose those are the ones to which I refer?
[momocrome] I am probably just grasping at any outlet though
[county] Well, are you talking about the ones of a topless young black girl with a tattoo?
[momocrome] she was wearing a nice dress in the photos I saw
[momocrome] don't recall toplessness
[momocrome] bc had them on his server
[county] The topless girl with the tattoo isn't luisa.
[county] There are some ones of the real luisa wearing scandelously short dresses and skirts, though.
[momocrome] those are probably the ones I am thinking of
[county] OK.
[county] Well, get in line, buddy.
[momocrome] no prob'
[momocrome] i already have a girl, after all
[county] Yes, rub that in.
[county] Son of a bitch!
[luisa||||] yeah, i notice that about guys
[luisa||||] they find me quite attractive
[momocrome] and a bunch of airline miles!
[luisa||||] but at the end of the day, i haven't got them as boyfriends
[luisa||||] some less hot chick does
[momocrome] I can even upgrade to first class en route to Houston
[luisa||||] what's up with that?
[county] God damn you, luisa.
[county] bc took me off the access list, and I know it's your fault.
[momocrome] you'd have your pick in Seattle
[luisa||||] bc loves you
[luisa||||] no i wouldn't
[luisa||||] they wouldn't even talk to me
[county] He thinks I'm tempermental, untrustworthy, and fiery, though.
[luisa||||] just stare and smile some
[county] He doesn't think I'm fit to hold power.
[luisa||||] well, you are at that
[momocrome] well, if either qpt or I saw you on the bus, we'd both make our moves
[luisa||||] pfft
[luisa||||] well, i know qp is a doll
[momocrome] I am a Viking Warlord of a doll
[luisa||||] but i only like blond things for sport
[county] I'm not sure I'd recognize luisa.
[luisa||||] and qp is blonde
[county] I'm not.
[luisa||||] well, you should be
[momocrome] sure, shoot me down already.
[momocrome]
[luisa||||] next you'll be telling me you're not attractive, either
[momocrome] I might be as handsome as Yanni!
[luisa||||] and that you aren't a boy at all.
[county] I could say all of that.
[county] Have, at one point or another.
[luisa||||] so you are a girl?
[county] No, I'm not, sadly.
[luisa||||] a pity
[luisa||||] i like girls for sport well enough
[county] What sort of sport?
[momocrome] that's itg.
[momocrome] dammit
[momocrome] I have a hangnail all bandaged up
[momocrome] disrupts the typing
[luisa||||] what a night
[momocrome] you scoff.
[luisa||||] i chose irc and light reading and 80s music at home over 80s music in a club and loads of pointless drinking
[momocrome] but I tried to proclaim my love
[luisa||||] eh, you are drunqk and claimed
[luisa||||] and also non-local
*** ubu_away has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 360 seconds)
[county] I tried to proclaim my love, too.
[luisa||||] you are also drunk and non-local
[luisa||||] also, i have no idea what you look like
[county] You are so shallow!
[county] And you do know. bc showed you a picture.
[county] I asked him and he confirmed.
[luisa||||] i have no idea what picture
[county] I looked for it the other day, it wasn't online anymore.
[luisa||||] a shame
[county] It was a poor picture, anyway.
[county] I've gotten better looking in my twenties. I was quite pleased.
[luisa||||] well, it's no matter to me
[county] Yes it is. You prefer not to look at ugly pictures.
[luisa||||] you are either pasty faced dork or rather decent looking
[county] Everyone does.
[luisa||||] i shall never know which
* county gets an idea.
[county] If I were really pasty and really dorky, might you be brought to tears at the sight of me?
[luisa||||] no.
[luisa||||] else i'd weep daily
[luisa||||] just from walking around and about
[county] What's your opinion of ubu's picture?
[county] I was rather surprised.
[county] I'm not convinced it's him.
[luisa||||] if that is him, goddamn
[luisa||||] that's really it.
[county] And to think, he's been hitting on li'l ol' me!
[county] I feel flattered.
[luisa||||] heheh
[luisa||||] the thing is though
[luisa||||] it would be totally typical for a boy like him to look like that
[county] How do you mean?
[momocrome] http://www.gamesdomain.com/gdreview/zones/reviews
[luisa||||] i knew a guy similar in personality to him online
[momocrome] images fdrom a game I made
[luisa||||] the guy was so cagey about his appearance
[luisa||||] but he was super fucking gorgeous
[luisa||||] but also an invalid recluse who resided on his parents' estate
[luisa||||] i miss him sometimes
[county] haha! So you've mistaken my own hesitance to give out a picture for attractiveness.
[county] That's amusing.
[luisa||||] in your case, no
[county] You have to realize that most people who don't want to be seen simply do it out of ugliness.
[luisa||||] i was speaking of ubu's image that he chose to pony up
[luisa||||] nearly all the cagey guys i have met first online were superhot
[luisa||||] they just felt they lacked appeal
[county] I know that you were talking about ubu, but I was noting that it explained your somewhat bizarre notions about me.
[luisa||||] k5 has unfortunately shown me the more homely-ass end of the spectrum
[county] I don't know why you can't accept me as I am
[luisa||||] i haven't any idea what you am
[luisa||||] as in other areas of my life, i was horribly spoilt in my early online experiences
[luisa||||] pretty much everyone was very physically attractive, and also fun to hang out with offline
[luisa||||] mostly the people i get along with best online are also physically attractive
[momocrome] county's eyes arent gray.
[luisa||||] not every time, but 9/10
[momocrome] they are green-brown
[luisa||||] don't taunt, momo
[momocrome] mine are gray.
[luisa||||] green-brown is one of my favourite colours for eyes
[momocrome] also, I can track raccoon by the merest trace of their spoor
[luisa||||] grey can be interesting, but depends on the lad
[luisa||||] i am sure that is very nice.
[county] My eyes are green-brown. I've medium brown hair, and I'm caucasian, but with a fair amount of Iberian blood in me.
[momocrome] gray is the premium eye colour. don't fool yourself.
[luisa||||] pfft
[luisa||||] well, you sound pretty enough
[momocrome] Iberian isn't caucasian?
[luisa||||] if the boys i have known like that are anything to go on
[momocrome] I suppose it is moorish mixed
[momocrome] I am norse.
[county] momocrome is also fat.
[momocrome] bah!
[county] A big, fat viking.
[county] With a braided beard.
[luisa||||] haha
[county] He pillaged his bride from a nearby village.
[county] ^ Poetry.
[luisa||||] haha
[luisa||||] i am a sexy bitch who wishes boys liked her in a long term relationship way
[momocrome] I have been with my GF for 3 years 11 months
[momocrome] I have staying power
[luisa||||] yes, for her
[county] luisa, never trust a guy who leaves someone to be with you.
[luisa||||] i want a superhot boy who is clever
[luisa||||] and who wants me for a long time
[momocrome] well, since we haven't married, perhaps we need to move on now.
[luisa||||] i quite despair of ever attaining that
[county] You just don't strike me as the committing type, luisa.
[luisa||||] since bc is my evil twin
[momocrome] bc would marry you
[luisa||||] we could never marry, or even date, even when i am in scotland
[luisa||||] we could probably hang out some
[luisa||||] but anything more wouldn't even make sense at this point
[county] You seem too self-absorbed to be faithful. Faithfulness, though the rough spots, requires a real selflessness, and you don't appear to exhibit that. That's not to say that you couldn't be selfless, I have no idea. You don't seem it, though.
[luisa||||] i am very self-contained
[luisa||||] it has been a source of stress in every really serious thing with a guy
[luisa||||] also i have no tolerance for idiocy
[county] Guys are used to women being somewhat unreserved in their expressions of emotion. Maybe your aloofness is mistaken for lack of interest.
[momocrome] or frigidity
[county] Aye.
[luisa||||] well, i am warm enough in physical aspects
* em is back
[luisa||||] i just am cold outside physical expressions of intimacy
[luisa||||] hullo, em
[em] wrote another conference abstract, forgot to have dinner.
[luisa||||] korean
[county] The physical aspect isn't enough, though.
[luisa||||] man, because of you, the girls at the restaurant think i've been to korea
[em] who, me?
[luisa||||] because i can say all the dishes correctly
[county] It would just make you seem sluttish.
[em] bibimbap dolsat?
[em] kimchi?
[luisa||||] oh, there's loads of other things besides those
[em] those are all I know, so don't blame me, dammit
[luisa||||] haha, but i love them all
* em wrote a semi-sane abstract tonight
[luisa||||] sluts regret and get emotionally attached, though
[luisa||||] i don't
[momocrome] the most passionate and violent racists I have ever known are koreans that hate other koreans.
[em] and had a meeting earlier today with one of my profs about the crazy one I did yesterday
[county] Then you're even worse than a slut, then, if you feel no emotional attachment?
[em] He said: "I thought you were too young to write such Grand Old Man abstracts!"
[em] and then kind of mocked me by reading the first couple of sentences with an imitation of Roman Jakobson's accent.
[em] (yeah, my prof was a friend of Jakobson. sue me.)
*** momocrome is now known as Linux
[luisa||||] i feel emotional attachment
* em thinks Linux should be banned in this channel.
[luisa||||] it is just not something i bother the boy with
[county] You just said you didn't.
[county] The boy wants to be bothered with it, you nut!
[Linux] em, I think they are ripping on you in trolltalk
[luisa||||] no, that is just asking for rejection
[county] Of course, and there's the rub.
[em] luisa||||: i think you care too much.
[luisa||||] i always reject guys who want me lots
[Linux] em, with your actual christian name
[em] what's the URL for trolltalk?
* em is mildly curious.
[county] Maybe there are some guys who are more charitable than you, luisa.
[county] I suspect there are.
[Linux] http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=20721&cid=467
[luisa||||] i haven't met any
*** Retrieving #adequacy info...
[county] Anyway, wanting you a lot right after meeting you and wanting you a lot after a few months of seeing each other frequently strike me as crucially different states of affairs.
[luisa||||] well, i reject in both cases
[luisa||||] usually because the guy isn't the right sort for my tastes
[county] Why?
[luisa||||] the ones i want will not suffer through the emotional coldness to stay with me
[county] What do you want? To love and be loved, but never admit it or have it be admitted to you?
* em looks at the trolltalk thing.
* em yawns.
[luisa||||] heh, probably, county
[Linux] there is a traiteor in the midst of the old inchfan crowd
[Linux] traitor
[Linux] gah
[Linux] ok, just thought you should know
* em yawns.
[county] Suffer through it? Why would they? From their perspective, you're frigid or not interested, and sticking around would be foolish and self-indulgent. They're only trying to make a graceful retreat when they can.
[em] who the hell is matt stanton?
[Linux] no idea
[Linux] it does bring up your stanford page as the first hit on google
[Linux] and judging by how hard they are harassing vlad, i'd keep an eye on things
* em doesn't really care by now.
[county] I'm glad my name wasn't on that list.
[county] I don't want to be targeted by those freaks!
[luisa||||] they know i'm interested, county
[county] Interested really isn't enough.
[county] Interested is wasting their time, after a point.
[county] They need to know you have some level of commitment.
[luisa||||] i'd stay only with them and not have any others, if they asked
[luisa||||] the boys i tend to like
[luisa||||] but they seem to all think i should be with someone more attractive physically
[county] Can you honestly be so dense?
* em realizes who Matt Stanton is, and simultaneously, the identity of the perpetrator.
[Linux] osm
[Linux] not that I know who matt stanton is
[county] Who is Matt Stanton?
[Linux] they are calling the whole bunch + vlad 'Vladequacy' and targetting all
*** luisa||| (~happy@dialup-64.152.241.224.Dial1.Houston1.Leve
[luisa|||] how am i dense when the boys are the ones saying i'm too pretty for them to deserve?
[county] luisa, the simple fact is that until you're willing to make yourself more emotionally vulnerable, you will never find what you want.
MAUREEN: I think we need an agent!
MARK: We?
JOANNE: That's selling out.
MARK: But it's nice to dream.
MAUREEN: It's network TV, and it's all thanks to me.
MARK: Somehow I think I smell the whiff of a scheme.
JOANNE: Me too!
MAUREEN: We can plan another protest.
JOANNE: We?!
MAUREEN: This time you can shoot from the start, you'll direct, starring me!
ALL: 5, 4, 3... Open sesame!! Happy new year, Happy new year Happy new...
BENNY: I see that you've beaten me to the punch.
ROGER: How did you know we'd be here?
BENNY: I had a hunch.
MARK: You're not mad?
BENNY: I'm here to end this war. It's a shame you went and destroyed the door
MIMI: Why all the sudden the big about face?
BENNY: The credit is yours; you made a good case.
ROGER: What case?
BENNY: Mimi came to see me and she had much to say.
MIMI: That's not how you put it at all yesterday!
BENNY: I couldn't stop thinking about the whole mess. Mark -- you want to get this on film!
MARK: I guess.
BENNY: I regret the unlucky circumstances of the past seven days.
ROGER: Circumstance? You padlocked our door!
BENNY: And it's with great pleasure on behalf of CyberArts that I hand you this key.
ANGEL: Golf claps.
MARK: I have no juice in my battery!
BENNY: Reshoot!
ROGER: I see -- this is a photo opportunity!
MAUREEN: The benevolent god ushers the poor artists back to their flat. Were you planning on taking down the barbed wire from the lot, too?
ROGER: Anything but that!
BENNY: Clearing the lot was a safety concern; we break ground this month but you can return.
MAUREEN: That's why you're here with people you hate, instead of with Muffy at Muffy's estate
BENNY: I'd honestly rather be with you tonight than in Westport --
ROGER: Spare us old sport, the soundbite.
BENNY: Mimi -- since your ways are so seductive,
MIMI: You came on to me!
BENNY: Persuade him not to be so counterproductive.
ROGER: Liar!
BENNY: Why not tell them what you wore to my place?
MIMI: I was on my way to work!
BENNY: Black leather and lace! My desk was a mess; I think I'm still sore!
MIMI: Cause I kicked him and told him I wasn't his whore!
BENNY: Does your boyfriend know who your last boyfriend was?
ROGER: I'm not her boyfriend; I don't care what she does!
ANGEL: People! Is this any way to start a new year? Have compassion, Benny just lost his cat!
BENNY: My dog -- but I appreciate that.
ANGEL: My cat had a fall and I went through hell.
BENNY: It's like losing a -- how did you know that she fell?
COLLINS: Champagne?
BENNY: Don't mind if I do! To dogs!
ALL: No, Benny -- To you!
ANGEL: Let's make a resolution
MIMI: I'll drink to that.
COLLINS: Let's always stay friends.
JOANNE: Though we may have our disputes,
MAUREEN: This family tree's got deep roots;
MARK: Friendship is thicker than blood.
ROGER: That depends.
MIMI: Depends on trust,
ROGER: Depends on true devotion,
JOANNE: Depends on love,
MARK: Depends on not denying emotion!
ROGER: Perhaps...
ALL: It's gonna be a happy new year.
ROGER: I guess...
ALL: It's gonna be a happy new year.
ROGER: You're right!
ANGEL: It's gonna be a happy new year!
ROGER AND MIMI: I'm sorry.
ROGER: Coming?
MIMI: In a minute -- I'm fine -- go.
THE MAN: Well, well, well. What have we here? It's gonna be a happy new year...
From: Ceee Peee
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] advice?
Date sent: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 04:34:58 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0013)
Indeed, whimsy is an open account (for posting whimsical diaries) whose password is 'whimsy'. I've contributed some diaries (principally, "I was there watching the world go by" and "How to calculate your social security income") and so have felt free to abuse the account for comment posting in Anne Marie stories. My guess is the other whimsy poster is tewl, since she posted something about "oh, I didn't realize annemarie=cp" in k5tt a while back.
I share your incredulity. Anyone who reads through k5tt would know the truth. Anyone who suspected could do a search on my (cp's) comments and see I only post in anne marie's stories. Oh well. It's fun to see rusty defend me.
--- James <spiralx@spazmail.com> wrote:
> --- =?iso-8859-1?q?I=20am=20Troll?=
> <i_am_troll@yahoo.co.uk>
> > wrote:
> >I thought that you were Whimsy? Why did you just
> out
> >yourself and then ask us to mod it down? Explain
> now,
> >or I'll moderate the comment up.
>
> Nah, Whimsy is an open account anyone can use if
> they know the password, which is lost to me, but
> could be "whimsy". So at least one other person
> remembers the password and knows that cp is anne
> marie.
>
> What I'd like to know is how on Earth has cp managed
> to keep the fact that he is Anne Marie quiet so
> well? I mean, he hardly tried to keep it quiet with
> trolltalk posts and so on, and yet very few seem to
> know who Anne Marie actually is...
>
> J
>
> P.S. I really want to smoke. Bugger. Giving up
> sucks.
(This is CP0013)
From: cptroll
1 217&cid=501) with a 95% accurate comment about how tort reforms during the '60s tolled the death knell of contract law in favor of strict liability for product manufacturers. The 5% fantasy part was the bit at the end:
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: [k22320inchfan] slashdot psychology:
Date sent: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 23:45:41 -0400
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0033)
Not to inject an actual troll discussion into Careertalk, but... how can their brains work this way?
I got into the @Home article really late (http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=00/10/25/213
"For the most part, that's entirely justified, but it does produce odd results from time to time, like when an auto company was recently sued successfully because their cars didn't prevent consumers from locking their infants in the car on a hot day, forgetting they were there, and coming back to find a thoroughly asphyxiated baby."
It proved not to be too late to get a response, however. A fellow named jetson123 chimed in with his thoughts and added at the end:
"Usually, when you follow up on these stories, you'll find that there is quite a bit of justification for the judgement. (In this case, I suspect this refers to a design flaw many US cars have that makes it unnecessarily easy to accidentally lock yourself out.)"
HOW CAN THEIR BRAINS WORK THIS WAY?!?! What does he think happens? The parent accidentally locks himself out of the car and watches helplessly as his baby roasts to death inside? Too lazy to break the damn window? I clearly stated that the parent *forgot* that the kid was there. Or is that part of the "design flaw" too?
Sheesh.
(This is CP0033)
It's time to add Rusty Foster to "the list" of people who shouldn't be breathing.
Kuro5hin, "the democratic news site", has abandoned all pretenses of Democracy and has gone into full Fascist/Censorship mode.
These are the recent deeds of Kuro5hin.org:
1. Deleting numerous comments entirely, circumventing the site's established ratings procedure. Many of the comments deleted were highly rated at the time of deletion, indicating that THE PEOPLE wanted them to stay.
2. Disabling numerous user accounts. Many of these accounts were disabled before they even posted anything.
3. Enacting IP bans against several users, and adding additional IP bans as these persecuted people kept changing IPs to avoid censorship.
4. Deleting many diaries, including several that contained no abusive/offensive content, for no reason and with no warning or notice.
5. Keeping all this secret, because Rusty Foster knows he would be lynched by his readership if his Nazi-like practices were evar revealed.
Disabling dozens of accounts... deleting dozens of comments... banning dozens of IPs and several entire subnets... is this Democracy??
Rusty Foster is going to be second against the wall when the revolution comes, right behind his gay lovebuddy William Scott Lockwood III.
Vlad--
You fat fucking piece of shit! Why didn't you tell us you were involved
with the Al-Quaida network of terrorist cells in the United States? We would
have understood! And arrested you, granted, but what kind of American are
you?
Your years in the Navy (all eight of them) ought to have taught you a
little patriotism. Maybe it was the constant hazing with coin-filled socks
by your fellow enlisted, or the constant write-ups by the officers, that led
to a bitterness too intense for most to taste. Maybe. But if that wasn't it,
the dishonorable discharge for obesity and latent homosexuality probably put
you over the top. Who knew a military career could lead to hating the United
States of America so much that you'd aid Osama bin Laden and his army of
fanatics in bringing our economy to its knees.
Of course, it's possible it wasn't just your military career's string of
embarrassments over the years that led to your rash America-hating
decisions. Perhaps it was your mental health. It's no mystery to anyone
anymore that you have a martyr complex, chronic (or "major," as you call it)
depression, psychotic delusions of persecution (which lead to actual
persecution), and anti-social disorder. If it were me with the string of
divorces, restraining order filed by my own children, or the job record
longer than the Mississippi, I'd be in a therapists office or on pills or
something. And if none of that worked, I'd kill myself (hint, hint).
I imagine the feeling that never being able to succeed breeds would work its
way into anyone's skull. I mean, after the second wife I would have bought a
plane ticket to Yemen. You're on wife #4, and on top of that (listen for the
rafters breaking) she weighs 400 fucking pounds.
Well, here's my wish to you that you get what you deserve-- which is
Osama bin Laden and a dozen of his most well-hung, bearded, filthy Muslim
terrorist commandos pumping their huge circumcised cocks in and out of every
orifice of your bloated, sweating body. And, of course, I hope that you
break your jaw on Osama bin Laden's bucking love-bazooka and then choke to
death on his deluge of Islamic semen and go straight to the lowest pit of
Hell positioned directly under Satan's squatting haunches for all of
eternity.
Fuck you, Vlad!
From: cptroll
) and pioneer an entirely PICTOGRAPHIC version (http://ilovebacon.bla-bla.com/noway/112100c.shtml ).
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] why the internet rules
Date sent: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 17:29:43 -0500
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0037)
Did you get that from ilovebacon.com? Because if you did, then I'm disappointed you didn't note how those industrious Germans are at it again. Who else could pick up on the failure of dogs to read their 'no pooping' signs (http://ilovebacon.bla-bla.com/noway/110300.shtml
Without such innovation at home, it's little wonder Amerika is scraping
the bottom of the corporate barrel abroad.
jlb <jlb@io.com> wrote:
>http://www.d111.k12.id.us/BHS/BHS.htm
(This is CP0037)
From: cptroll
) and pioneer an entirely PICTOGRAPHIC version (http://ilovebacon.bla-bla.com/noway/112100c.shtml ).
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] why the internet rules
Date sent: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 17:29:43 -0500
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0037)
Did you get that from ilovebacon.com? Because if you did, then I'm disappointed you didn't note how those industrious Germans are at it again. Who else could pick up on the failure of dogs to read their 'no pooping' signs (http://ilovebacon.bla-bla.com/noway/110300.shtml
Without such innovation at home, it's little wonder Amerika is scraping
the bottom of the corporate barrel abroad.
jlb <jlb@io.com> wrote:
>http://www.d111.k12.id.us/BHS/BHS.htm
(This is CP0037)
From: cptroll
d =2755) so I make up an
B 40" X-Priority: Ê3
t .com/~wsl3/+vladinator).
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: [k22320inchfan] Vladinator needs a beatdown
Date sent: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 20:04:50 -0400
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0029)
I'm trying to give george his account back
(http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=trolltalk&ci
appropriate throwaway email address and post it. Vladinator, being the
prick he is, sends me this email:
>From Ê"Anony Mouse" <anony_mouse1969@hotmail.com> ÊÊ ÊMon, 23 Oct 2000
>17:44:17 -0500 Subject: Êokay I'm writing you To: Ê
From ??? Fri Feb 19 09: Ê25
From anony_mouse1969@hotmail.com Mon Oct 23 18: Ê46
[snip]
>X-Originating-IP: Ê[209.96.17.98]
>Date: ÊMon, 23 Oct 2000 17
>MIME-Version: Ê1.0
>Content-Type: Êmultipart/alternative;
>boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C03D18.DD858
>X-MSMail-Priority: ÊNormal X-Mailer: ÊMicrosoft Outlook Express
>5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: ÊProduced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
>Message-ID: Ê X-OriginalArrivalTime: Ê23 Oct 2000 22
>
>okay I (george) wrote you so can I have my account back please?
Now, anyone with a half a brain and a reverse-ip lookup can see that that
originating IP corresponds to postnet.com and Vlad's own account
(http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:home.postne
If that's a permanent ip address, then vlad deserves whatever he gets
from anyone here who is more learned in the h4xx0r ways than I.
(This is CP0029)
You were fun when you were intelligent, now you are just stupid.
Wow, ohmyGOD, Pumpernickel told me to FOAD. I guess I'd better do what he says!! Oh, wait. There's absolutely no reason for me to do what he says, now that I think about it.
Creative material. Creative material. Creative material.
Creative material. Creative material. Creative material.
Creative material. Creative material. Creative material.
Creative material. Creative material. Creative material.
Creative material. Creative material. Creative material.
Creative material. Creative material. Creative material.
Creative material. Creative material.
Confidential material.
Confidential material.
Confidentail material.
That's just scratching the surface. I could go back further, if you like.
If you actually look, you'll see that 90% of the real spam (multiple identical messages posted minute apart in an attempt to push our messages off the page) is posted by our enemies, Lockwood and his VladeKua5y minions. Maybe you just don't read carefully.
We generate more original material than evaryone else here COMBINED, and we generate BETTER stuff, too. We ARE Trolltalk. We are what's keeping it alive despite all attempts to destroy it. YOU are one of those attempts.
From: Ceee Peee
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Last day at work
Date sent: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 19:28:42 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0008)
Heh, you showed more sense than I. The last time I
tried pulling a stunt like that (revealing such
affections), the object of my affection nearly drove
off the road and into some parked cars. Everything's
still fine between us, but there were those few
fleeting moments involving a high-speed vehicle and
several tons of steel which wouldn't have worked so well.
(This is CP0008)
...a world where MSN did this, and geeks rushed to become mechanical Lepidoptera experts, running around with nets trying to catch these things and hack them (load linux, perhaps?) for their own use. I can imagine MSN suddenly thinking this was not such a bright idea...
Godzilla vs. Mechamothra!!!
...Need to start smoking Crack Light(TM).
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=20721&cid=4682 572 ;but i drunk.5 437m enu=news.weirdworld.sexlife :(
<bc> hehe
<bc> god I suck
<bc> hey FI
<First_Incision> I will not discout the possibility that you suck.
<bc> A wise move FI
<abu_zeqqzeqq> bc: if craig is as fucked up as he seemse
<abu_zeqqzeqq> that will push him to new extremes...
<bc> hehee
<First_Incision> I never understood the stone women thing. Is osm still perving around somewhere?
<momocrome> http://www.clusterlizard.org
<momocrome> osm's site ^^
<bc> yes, though who knows what he's up to
<abu_zeqqzeqq> bc: change your nick to "Abu'l Hayjeh "
<momocrome> he has a bunch of uninspired match.com pseudo-trolls
<momocrome> picking on hapless, lonely women
<bc> that irc log is hilarious
<dmg> that takest the biscuit
<bc> [bc] vlad... i'2 type 'mo
<dmg> I laughed
<momocrome> post the text to 20721
<momocrome> stir the pot a bit
<momocrome> I am going to rise to their baiting
<momocrome> even thoughI haven't been singled out
<bc> haha
<bc> I must read more now
<bc> county: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=20721&cid=467
<ivan> Ignore the superfluous comma.
<bc> does that seem accurate to you?
<ivan> All of them =)
<ivan> thx
*** First_Incision is now known as fi-away
<ivan> I can't say, bc. I didn't read it.
<ivan> Should I?
<bc> Yes, you should
<ivan> Haha!
<abu_zeqqzeqq> http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_686841.html?
<ivan> It almost looks real.
<ivan> The one problem is that shoeboy is LOLing too much and Vladinator isn't doing it enough.
<bc> I'm kind of insulted. It represents me as a pathetic drunk with delusional fantasies that I'm liked by females, and that seems entirely untrue
<abu_zeqqzeqq> gratuituous kylie pictures. Proof Allah(SWT) and Mohammed (PBUH) are REAL
<ivan> It does seem entirely untrue that you're liked by females.
<abu_zeqqzeqq> bc at least you are worthy of parody
<bc> hehe
<abu_zeqqzeqq> some of us are become stalinesque non-persons.
<abu_zeqqzeqq> airbrushed out of trolling history
<ivan> abu and I didn't even get noticed
<bc> craig&osm&trollaxor prolly still like you, dmg
<ivan> "Where's the part where Barry Corrington slags on Jin Wicked for half an hour then kisses her ass when she logs in?"
<ivan> Has Jin ever been in here?
From: cptroll
d =2755) so I make up an
B 40" X-Priority: Ê3
t .com/~wsl3/+vladinator).
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: [k22320inchfan] Vladinator needs a beatdown
Date sent: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 20:04:50 -0400
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0029)
I'm trying to give george his account back
(http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=trolltalk&ci
appropriate throwaway email address and post it. Vladinator, being the
prick he is, sends me this email:
>From Ê"Anony Mouse" <anony_mouse1969@hotmail.com> ÊÊ ÊMon, 23 Oct 2000
>17:44:17 -0500 Subject: Êokay I'm writing you To: Ê
From ??? Fri Feb 19 09: Ê25
From anony_mouse1969@hotmail.com Mon Oct 23 18: Ê46
[snip]
>X-Originating-IP: Ê[209.96.17.98]
>Date: ÊMon, 23 Oct 2000 17
>MIME-Version: Ê1.0
>Content-Type: Êmultipart/alternative;
>boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C03D18.DD858
>X-MSMail-Priority: ÊNormal X-Mailer: ÊMicrosoft Outlook Express
>5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: ÊProduced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
>Message-ID: Ê X-OriginalArrivalTime: Ê23 Oct 2000 22
>
>okay I (george) wrote you so can I have my account back please?
Now, anyone with a half a brain and a reverse-ip lookup can see that that
originating IP corresponds to postnet.com and Vlad's own account
(http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:home.postne
If that's a permanent ip address, then vlad deserves whatever he gets
from anyone here who is more learned in the h4xx0r ways than I.
(This is CP0029)
Did anyone else, while reading "Admiral butterfly," imagine Steve Ballmer in MSN butterfly suit dancing on the stage? My God, this is not a nice thing to imagine while reading about technology, which can be a voyeurism breakthrough...
root@aio:~# nmap -sX -iR -p1- # Ho, ho, ho! Merry Xmas, everyone!
From: Ceee Peee
/ 1/3/22048/19424&mode=mod
0 /10/08/stifgneur01002.html). Lots of potential, and ideas are welcome. (I already have a link to a story about an Egyptian sacrificial ram chasing its owner off a roof.)
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: [k22320inchfan] you know the drill
Date sent: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 00:38:57 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0011)
Gimme some juice:
http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=displaystory;sid=2001
erate
Actually, it's bound to get modded up on its own because: 1) it's controversial but hardly a troll 2) it conforms to k5 groupthink as a topic for discussion and 3) it has jsm's blessing, something none of Anne Marie's previous submissions ever had. The only thing it has going against it is an annoying misspelling of "K/Clan" in KKK for good measure.
Mostly, I'm just cleansing the k5 pallate for tomorrow's big troll submission: Switzerland has a referendum to give animals human rights (http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/200
(This is CP0011)
From: cptroll
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] new blood.
Date sent: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:46:24 -0500
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0003)
Barry Corrigan is fine by me. We need some scottish blood.
>Would anyone object to Kiss the Blade joining (or at
>least being invited to join) the list?
>
>He has been posting some pretty nice stuff, and I have
>spoken to him on #trolls a number of times and he
>seems OK.
>
>++tlt
>
>Do You Yahoo!?
>Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
>or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
(This is CP0003)
From: Ceee Peee
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: [k22320inchfan] No respect
Date sent: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 08:57:36 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0018)
Today was the appointed date for jury duty (postponed since this summer, since the idiots at the courthouse failed to divine that calling a student to duty in the county where he studies rather than resides permanently doesn't make any sense). It was my hope to get on a jury, since I highly value the (unconstitutionally diminishing) role of the jury in American jurisprudence.
I showed up this morning at the courthouse. After some buffoonery at the security check (hint: don't carry a cpu in your backpack when arriving for jury duty), I went upstairs where I signed in and was informed that I had already missed the video (shucks). I filled out some paperwork and was redirected to the grand-jury room.
This was a potential mixed blessing. Grand juries, as distinguished from petite ("normal") juries, are the first line that the state must cross before obtaining an indictment for the accused. They consist of 23 laypersons whose standard is "probable cause" rather than "reasonable doubt" and vote by majority rule whether to issue an indictment. The prosecutor presents his witnesses and evidence, and the defendant has no representation. Normally, the grand-jury trial is brief and 99% or so of all grand juries return an indictment. Prosecutors often refer to this statistic as the "ability to indict a ham sandich" if they so please. Grand juries usually sit for one day per week for three months, something that would screw up any student's semester.
The good thing about grand juries is that they have almost infinite investigatory powers to do whatever they please. What is not commonly understood is that the role of the grand jury isn't just to return a verdict in the form of an indictment; it's for members to question witnesses, subpoena evidence the prosecutor didn't present, and generally get the whole story. It's even within the power of the grand jury to expell the prosecutor and judge if the jury so decides.
I was prepared to give them hell. Once on a jury
(grand or otherwise), I was going to be the asshole
lawyer the defendant isn't allowed to have. I was
going to subpoena bank records, grill prosecutorial
witnesses, and vote to nullify anything I considered
unjust (even when "legal"). I was going to persuade
enough fellow jurors to kick out anyone we didn't
like, especially the prosecutor. In short, I was
going to troll the legal system.
But I didn't get that opportunity. After an hour of
sitting in the grand-jury room, we were informed that
we weren't waiting for a grand-jury seating: instead,
a petite-jury seating.
Petite juries, in states that value the constitution,
are 12-person panels that sit and hear evidence in the
actual criminal trial. Their role is ostensibly to
decide the facts and apply the law as directed by the
judge. Their actual role under the constitution
(though the Supreme Court doesn't require that you be
informed of this) is to sit in judgment not just on
the facts but also on the law. Again, I was hoping to
get a chance to nullify stuff: this time, drug laws
and other things I believe unconstitutional.
Again, I was denied. Only five minutes later, we were
informed that all the cases pending today were
plea-bargained, and we were "free to go". A sigh of
relief was heard throughout the room, as people who
didn't want to be there were grateful that they didn't
have to serve on a jury and perform the duty they
didn't want to perform. I was disgusted.
That's what's most wrong with plea bargaining in this
country. Not that 90% of cases never reach public
scrutiny because they're decided in the hallways of
courthouses. Not that people serve penalties for
unconstitutional charges. Not that real criminals get
off with reduced sentences. Not that the legislatures
feel free to pass an absurd number of laws without
caring whether the court system can handle the load of
giving each citizen true justice.
None of that.
What's wrong is that I, a troll, have been kept off my
damn jury. No respect.
(This is CP0018)
Why Evil is Good
I hate victims. Victims are the albatross hung from the neck of society. The
term is not even acknowledged by any other species. I am certain if there are
intelligent beings elsewhere in the universe, they follow the strict principle
of Natural Selection. Only the Strong shall survive. Mankind cannot survive
as long as its virility is diluted by the weak.
Peace-and-Love hippies, retards, cripples, depressives, sickling, addicts
and whiners are all victims of one kind or another. Larger examples of victims
can also be found: the entire nations of Israel and Englund, for example, are
constantly victimized and/or whining about their lack of power in the world. In
fact, the entire continent of Europe is nothing but a festering sewer of whiners
and welfare states. If we, the strongest nation on Earth, had a decent Ruler,
the entire junk-heap of Eurotrash would be burned to create a cloud of such lethal
density it would waft over to Asia and take out the victims that were left over from
World War II. The great black column of suffocating smoke would rise high into the
atmosphere, reaching for the very edges of outer space - a giant, living monument
to our strength. The unviable ashes of the once living garbage would orbit the Earth,
forever reminding future generations of the price of weakness.
World War II. Probably the greatest single era in the history of the planet, barring
the time before Man and Man's distorted, unnatural philosophies of "common good" and
"protecting the innocent". The time of Germany and its rule by a man of great vision.
A man who saw the virtue of evil. Every single class of victim described above was
dealt with in the harshest possible manner. Most people focus on the genocidal aspect
of Hitler's activities but his vision was much wider, encompassing every brand of
weakling from ethnic victims to sexual deviants. Unfortunately the United States,
led by a cripple, had to involve our great military might on the wrong side of the
war. The least Roosevelt could have done was to allow Germany to finish raping
France and reduce Englund to rubble.
We paid for our mistake in World War II. We were punished for choosing the wrong
side in the Great War by a period of non-violent "Cold War". The term "Cold War"
itself is the mark of the true Beast: the peace lover. A true leader - a Ruler -
would have unleashed the full might of our nuclear arsenal upon every nation on the
Earth, banishing them forever to particles of glowing dust blowing through the winds
of history. And look what our lack of action has gotten us: A planet filled with
human garbage, eternal sufferers suckling from the breast of the Mighty.
It is beyond my comprehension. Not only am I forced to allow the weak to survive,
but I - we - are forced to subsidize their pathetic existence. Every cripple
creeping along the sidewalk. Every degenerate elderly woman with osteoporosis who
parks in the handicap parking spot. Every worthless, lazy hippy who cries for peace
and marches on a public university. Every sickling child perpetually hospitalized
because its fetid welfare mother smoked too many drugs during her pregnancy. Every
30 year old retard wiping its nose all over its Scooby Doo coloring book. Every
drunk little whore seeking "justice" in our courts for her rape. All of them,
and more, deserve nothing but death. In the Natural World, every single one of these
leeches would be lion fodder.
Even the "Good Book", the Bible - which is actually nothing more than the sick fantasies
of opium addicts - predicts the outcome of Nature: "The meek shall inherit the Earth".
Yes, I know what you're saying, but you are wrong. This phrase has been twisted by the
weak, the cripple, the Jew to give their pathetic lives some ray of hope. This phrase
does not mean that the Victim will Rule the world. That is laughable. That is impossible.
The meek shall inherit the Earth for the one and only reason that they will be buried in
it.
To the strong who have read this: Thank you. Together, we will conquer. To the weak who
will whine in the comments below: Your days are numbered, trash.
Tiny machines that fly like insects will soon be a reality. That is the confident prediction of scientists who have just studied the remarkable aerobatics of the butterfly. There is a lot of interest in this sort of thing from toy manufacturers Dr Adrian LR Thomas The two Oxford researchers put red admirals in a specially designed wind tunnel and used high-speed cameras to analyse how the animals moved through the air. The results of the experiments, they say, represent a major advance in our understanding of flight mechanics on the small scale, and will be invaluable to engineers trying to build "micro air vehicles". "There is a lot of interest in this sort of thing from toy manufacturers and, of course, the military," Dr Adrian LR Thomas told BBC News Online. "We are now moving in the direction where we will soon be able to build 10-centimetre-wingspan aircraft, either radio controlled or autonomous. "They would make an entertaining toy but if you put a camera on them then the [security agencies] could send them into small spaces such as caves to see what was going on." Effortless switch Red admiral, Adrian LR Thomas Wisps of smoke were blown over the wings Dr Thomas has spent 12 years studying insect aerodynamics. The wind tunnel used in the butterfly experiments took three years to construct and fine tune. With help of Dr Robert Srygley, red admirals (Vanessa atalanta) were trained to fly freely to and from artificial flowers in the tunnel. Wisps of smoke were blown over the insects' wings to see how they interacted with the air. The visible turbulence was caught on an ultra-fast digital camera. "The fluttering of butterflies is not a random, erratic wandering, but results from the mastery of a wide array of aerodynamic mechanisms," Srygley and Thomas report in the journal Nature. They identified six different ways the butterflies flapped and rotated their wings to stay airborne. The insects moved effortlessly through the different mechanisms "much like a horse might switch between walking, trotting and galloping depending on what it wanted to do," Dr Thomas said. BBCi Nature Click here for facts about red admirals Much to learn The researchers found the insects could, at times, fly very efficiently, producing very little turbulence. On other occasions, the red admirals' wings deliberately created vortices to achieve extra lift. "We saw conventional aircraft-style aerodynamics, two different kinds of leading-edge vortices, rotational mechanisms, wake-capture mechanisms and the so-called clap and fling." It is known that insect wings produce 10 times the amount of lift achieved by aircraft wings (per unit of area). Building tiny planes that were just scaled-down versions of the real thing would never get off the ground. It is only by mimicking the insect world that micro air vehicles will get airborne efficiently. And while miniaturisation experiments are progressing fast, engineers confess they still have much to learn from the animal world.
Put identity in the browser.
From: cptroll
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] New Debian advertisements, by me!
Date sent: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 15:55:53 -0400
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0025)
Hey, you missed part of her armpit. She's a statue with a living,
breathing armpit. I'm trying to find some irony there, but I can't.
Otherwise, jolly good show.
Craig McPherson <craig@laceyonline.com> wrote:
>I've done some unofficial new advertisements for Debian Linux.
>http://users.ipa.net/~cmcpher/newad.jpg
(This is CP0025)
From: cptroll
) and pioneer an entirely PICTOGRAPHIC version (http://ilovebacon.bla-bla.com/noway/112100c.shtml ).
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] why the internet rules
Date sent: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 17:29:43 -0500
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0037)
Did you get that from ilovebacon.com? Because if you did, then I'm disappointed you didn't note how those industrious Germans are at it again. Who else could pick up on the failure of dogs to read their 'no pooping' signs (http://ilovebacon.bla-bla.com/noway/110300.shtml
Without such innovation at home, it's little wonder Amerika is scraping
the bottom of the corporate barrel abroad.
jlb <jlb@io.com> wrote:
>http://www.d111.k12.id.us/BHS/BHS.htm
(This is CP0037)
From: Ceee Peee
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: [k22320inchfan] gbd on #trolls
Date sent: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 22:06:25 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0004)
Right now, "gbd" is on #trolls. His host is
remarkably similar to momocrome's: gbd is
~gbd@adsl-63-200-62-16.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
(george), whereas momocrome is
~natalie_p@cloaked.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net (MOMOCROME).
Yet, he's able to present compelling evidence that he
is the one who currently holds the "gbd" usernick on
slashdot, who I do consider to be the real gbd in
light of the circumstances surrounding how I gave him
the account. Gbd's address looks like it's from SF,
whereas momocrome's is from LA, so that would suggest
they're not the same. But does anyone else have a
pacbell.net address that we know?
(This is CP0004)
From: cptroll
.sig files as well. Not a big deal.
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Have I gone soft?
Date sent: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 13:01:08 -0400
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0024)
Marc Stauffer <marc@ksac.com> wrote:
>: True. I still think karma as a persistent user property ought to be
>: eliminated. It's fine to score individual comments, and even to award a
>: special +1 comment bonus to selected "good posters", but karma as a prop for
>: the self-esteem of pathetic geeks, or as a game, is dumb. At the very least,
>: karma should not be displayed, not even one's own karma. And if it's going
>: to exist, it ought to be aged so that my recent activity is treated as a
>: better predictor of the value of my next comment than something I wrote a
>: year ago.
Bah, I'd hate this, but then I'm too much a karmawhore at heart. But if we could somehow increase the amount of quality moderation (to get rid of brainless drivel, not just spam) and rely on our abilities to craft quality-sounding trolls, then I wouldn't complain too much if we got rid of karma altogether and got rid of the +1 bonus along with it. Originally, the +1 bonus was reserved by just a few, but now every lamer and his dog has it. It's lost all meaning.
>What this doesn't solve, however, is the inherent problems
>with moderation. Not with the system, mind you, but with the
>users. There needs to be stricter policies, e.g. no
>usernames displayed when you moderate, or something along
>those lines, and the penalties for crummy mods need to be
>higher. In fact, people need to be banned from moderating
>more often since they simply suck at it.
I'd been thinking along the lines of hiding usernames during moderation, if nothing else than to help us trolls with recognizable usernames who get unfair moderation simply for being trolls in general than just on a particular post. I can see several0 problems, though:
1) It won't stop the most dedicated of trollbusters who will keep a separate window open as AC where they can see people's usernames. These are the moderators who most need to be stopped, and yet this restriction won't do so.
2) It will add a social cost to moderating itself. People might just start throwing their points at crap just to get back to normal mode where they can see who's talking. But it could cut both ways.
3) It'll increase the amount of noisy replies screaming: "Moderators! Don't you realize streetlawyer/flatpack/etc. is the one saying this?!?!?!" We don't need that.
4) You'd have to hide
(This is CP0024)
From: cptroll
d =2755) so I make up an
B 40" X-Priority: Ê3
t .com/~wsl3/+vladinator).
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: [k22320inchfan] Vladinator needs a beatdown
Date sent: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 20:04:50 -0400
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0029)
I'm trying to give george his account back
(http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=trolltalk&ci
appropriate throwaway email address and post it. Vladinator, being the
prick he is, sends me this email:
>From Ê"Anony Mouse" <anony_mouse1969@hotmail.com> ÊÊ ÊMon, 23 Oct 2000
>17:44:17 -0500 Subject: Êokay I'm writing you To: Ê
From ??? Fri Feb 19 09: Ê25
From anony_mouse1969@hotmail.com Mon Oct 23 18: Ê46
[snip]
>X-Originating-IP: Ê[209.96.17.98]
>Date: ÊMon, 23 Oct 2000 17
>MIME-Version: Ê1.0
>Content-Type: Êmultipart/alternative;
>boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C03D18.DD858
>X-MSMail-Priority: ÊNormal X-Mailer: ÊMicrosoft Outlook Express
>5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: ÊProduced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
>Message-ID: Ê X-OriginalArrivalTime: Ê23 Oct 2000 22
>
>okay I (george) wrote you so can I have my account back please?
Now, anyone with a half a brain and a reverse-ip lookup can see that that
originating IP corresponds to postnet.com and Vlad's own account
(http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:home.postne
If that's a permanent ip address, then vlad deserves whatever he gets
from anyone here who is more learned in the h4xx0r ways than I.
(This is CP0029)
From: cptroll
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] new blood.
Date sent: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:46:24 -0500
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0003)
Barry Corrigan is fine by me. We need some scottish blood.
>Would anyone object to Kiss the Blade joining (or at
>least being invited to join) the list?
>
>He has been posting some pretty nice stuff, and I have
>spoken to him on #trolls a number of times and he
>seems OK.
>
>++tlt
>
>Do You Yahoo!?
>Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
>or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
(This is CP0003)
From: cptroll
.sig files as well. Not a big deal.
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Have I gone soft?
Date sent: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 13:01:08 -0400
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0024)
Marc Stauffer <marc@ksac.com> wrote:
>: True. I still think karma as a persistent user property ought to be
>: eliminated. It's fine to score individual comments, and even to award a
>: special +1 comment bonus to selected "good posters", but karma as a prop for
>: the self-esteem of pathetic geeks, or as a game, is dumb. At the very least,
>: karma should not be displayed, not even one's own karma. And if it's going
>: to exist, it ought to be aged so that my recent activity is treated as a
>: better predictor of the value of my next comment than something I wrote a
>: year ago.
Bah, I'd hate this, but then I'm too much a karmawhore at heart. But if we could somehow increase the amount of quality moderation (to get rid of brainless drivel, not just spam) and rely on our abilities to craft quality-sounding trolls, then I wouldn't complain too much if we got rid of karma altogether and got rid of the +1 bonus along with it. Originally, the +1 bonus was reserved by just a few, but now every lamer and his dog has it. It's lost all meaning.
>What this doesn't solve, however, is the inherent problems
>with moderation. Not with the system, mind you, but with the
>users. There needs to be stricter policies, e.g. no
>usernames displayed when you moderate, or something along
>those lines, and the penalties for crummy mods need to be
>higher. In fact, people need to be banned from moderating
>more often since they simply suck at it.
I'd been thinking along the lines of hiding usernames during moderation, if nothing else than to help us trolls with recognizable usernames who get unfair moderation simply for being trolls in general than just on a particular post. I can see several0 problems, though:
1) It won't stop the most dedicated of trollbusters who will keep a separate window open as AC where they can see people's usernames. These are the moderators who most need to be stopped, and yet this restriction won't do so.
2) It will add a social cost to moderating itself. People might just start throwing their points at crap just to get back to normal mode where they can see who's talking. But it could cut both ways.
3) It'll increase the amount of noisy replies screaming: "Moderators! Don't you realize streetlawyer/flatpack/etc. is the one saying this?!?!?!" We don't need that.
4) You'd have to hide
(This is CP0024)
The new year is almost upon us and I thought it might be a nice gift to the faithful
readers of trolltalk to offer this sneak preview of upcoming movies, scheduled to be
released in 2003. Enjoy!
Vladman
The story of a troubled man whose Momma was tormented by prank callers. The phoning
episode leaves young Scott scarred for life and spawns a dark alter ego, "Vladman", who
fights peaceful, quiet internet communities with his grossly obese superpowers and
profound lack of intelligence. This film is a sure-fire hit, starring Roseanne Barr
as "Momma" and Ernest Borgnine in the title role.
Vlad Max
This low budget action film comes from Australia. Food is scarce in a post-war society
and a band of roving maniacs find a treasure-trove of food in the Lockwood family. Vlad
escapes the pack of cannibals and swears revenge. With a blood-red bib and a giant salad
fork, Vlad goes on a feeding rampage! Starring Marlon Brando in the title role.
Jaws IV: The Attack of Vlad
After defeating three shark attacks, the residents of Amity Island are besieged by a new
behemoth from the deep. In this latest installment in the Jaws series, a giant,
man-eating monstrosity rises from the depths to devour entire ships and then pollutes
the shoreline with its massive feces. Who will be brave enough to stand up to this
new threat?
Vlad and Reza's Excellent Adventure
In this comedic masterpiece, our heroes travel through time in a makeshift deep-freezer
to sample culinary delights throughout the ages. But what will Vlad and Reza do once
their mass exceeds the capacity of the freezer?? I won't tell, but you can bet it is
hilarious!
Enter The Whale
An action-packed martial arts movie. You will be amazed at Vlad's special style of
martial arts in this film. It's almost as if the attackers bounce right off of Vlad
before he even moves. One criticism I have of this movie, however, is the makeup.
Throughout the picture, Vlad appears flushed and excessively sweaty.
That's it for now. Stay tuned for a special preview of a new CD where your
favorite rabbis cover some of America's greatest pop hits!
From: cptroll
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] New Opportunity
Date sent: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 19:38:48 -0400
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0021)
No, that's no good either. As it stands, "post as AC" is good for making contributions that are important but punished by the capricious whims of moderators (and is currently the only option for people who want to post something at 0 instead of defaulting to 1). It doesn't stop the ones intent on posting crap; if anything, it forces them to go into a separate "post nothing but crap" mode, where they would proceed to post, you guessed it, lots of crap.
One compromise that I wouldn't mind so much (but which Taco wouldn't implement) is an option for posting at 0 under one's username but not having negative moderation affect one's karma in that mode. Alternatively, there could just be an option for posting at 0 without the karma aspect, but while that'd be much easier to code and sounds like a good idea, it is itself subject to an enormous abuse: karmawhoring at the 0 level -- stuff that is halfway decent would be netting karma just by modding up to 1. That could be fixed by having only moderation above 1 affect total karma, but that's another level of complexity that Rob probably doesn't want.
Mendax Veritas <mendaxveritas@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Okay, so what do you think of the converse option, of
>removing the "Post Anonymously" option when a user is
>logged in? You'd have to log out to post AC, which
>would make it a little less convenient to protect
>one's precious karma. Is that a good thing?
>
>I don't think any single change to Slashdot's policies
>is going to magically do away with spammers,
>jackasses, or idiots. But if a minor change like this
>would be more positive than negative, then it's worth
>considering, and might do some good as part of a more
>comprehensive solution.
>
>--mv
(This is CP0021)
From: Ceee Peee
/lived/ by you. If I were to go to Denny's
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] sunday adventure at deny's
Date sent: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 14:15:42 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0014)
Sometimes I'm jealous of you, Warren. Not the
paranoia or the psychotropic haze you walk around in
often, but the way even the smallest experiences are
so well
(only slightly higher on my list than Cracker Barrel
-- a racist homophobic trailertrash chickenshit
restaurant, for the edification of the Brits in the
audience), it'd hardly register on my mind to notice
half the stuff you do. Sure, I can remember lots in
hindsight, like the Weslyan wicca-ish waitress who
served me and my gf's family at a veganish restaurant
in Middletown, CT at lunch today, but you turn it into
your own opera.
Maybe I'm depressed. Maybe I'm just normal. I'd like
to think it's the former.
(This is CP0014)
probably knot.
It's time to add Rusty Foster to "the list" of people who shouldn't be breathing.
Kuro5hin, "the democratic news site", has abandoned all pretenses of Democracy and has gone into full Fascist/Censorship mode.
These are the recent deeds of Kuro5hin.org:
1. Deleting numerous comments entirely, circumventing the site's established ratings procedure. Many of the comments deleted were highly rated at the time of deletion, indicating that THE PEOPLE wanted them to stay.
2. Disabling numerous user accounts. Many of these accounts were disabled before they even posted anything.
3. Enacting IP bans against several users, and adding additional IP bans as these persecuted people kept changing IPs to avoid censorship.
4. Deleting many diaries, including several that contained no abusive/offensive content, for no reason and with no warning or notice.
5. Keeping all this secret, because Rusty Foster knows he would be lynched by his readership if his Nazi-like practices were evar revealed.
Disabling dozens of accounts... deleting dozens of comments... banning dozens of IPs and several entire subnets... is this Democracy??
Rusty Foster is going to be second against the wall when the revolution comes, right behind his gay lovebuddy William Scott Lockwood III.
Combine the Tornado in a can with this and you'll have the Quantum Butterfly.
Continuing the tradition of unearthing historical documents that have, until now, been lost to the mists of time, I present you with the original replies to the original Slashdot Troll FAQ, all from the previous millennium. I will be working hard to unearth, collect, and archive historical documents for the sake of preserving them for future generations of trollers.
:)
:) (ask 70%), and (b) I just don't think of it as an adversarian relationship; they may sometimes be a bit clueless, but they're helping to make my troll a success and I'm grateful for that. Much of what I write is a "what's wrong with this picture" puzzle, and if so, I can hardly fault people for solving it, can I?
:) who respond to my trolls, and most of them are good sports about it when I tell them I'm a troll.
:)
:)
... (Troll FAQ) (Score:0)
;-) Much giggling was heard from my desk.
/., we can pass around maybe sid=trollfaq or even the more arrogant sid=faq ;-) Of course, we'd have to "refresh" it every two weeks, but it's better than nothing ;-)
:)
* * * *
Dear God! (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on 09:05 AM March 16th, 2000 CST (#817)
You're more verbose than I am! I never knew that about you
I'd like to get my two cents in; mainly, I don't agree with your characterization of those who get trolled, for two reasons: (a) I've been trolled myself more than once
Another thing is that responders don't always spout conventional wisdom; in fact, I'd describe the libertarian/capitalist and misogynist RWMs as an exaggeration of conventional wisdom, at least the kind on Slashdot. The goal there IMHO is to get people to agree! You've also got people like the ones who explained the Quaker faith and the AFSC in my recent FBI troll: How many Slashbots know the AFSC from their elbow? Not many. There was a real need to inform people there, and I was hoping somebody would. The fact is, I meet a lot of nice, sensible people (nicer and more sensible than me, anyhow
I'm also not comfortable with the "elite" thing. IMHO we should try not to congratulate ourselves too much. This gets back to the "adversarial relationship" thing, I guess. I'd like the tone of the FAQ to be more "letting them in on the joke" than "ha ha, sucker".
Next: Cri de coeur should be italicized, dammit!
Lastly: I dig the "ritual reaction" thing, but I couldn't parse the rest of that riff about metaphor and metonymy at all. IHBT?
--80md
* * * *
Re:God help us all
by Anonymous Coward on 08:11 AM March 16th, 2000 CST (#815)
destined to become a classic. when this is completed, i would post it nice and prominently on a few innocent, unsuspecting stories. with a link to it, wherever it finds a home. i can put it on my server... just email me the exact html you want to use and be sure to sign it.
-osm
* * * *
teeheehee (Score:2)
by gnarphlager on 06:46 AM March 16th, 2000 CST (#812)
(User Info)
God I needed something this morning. This works
Anyway; give me some time, I'm sure I can add my two cents. I'm sure we're ALL going to mirror it on some webpage somewhere, but as for here on
I feel the desire to use the expression "gateway drug".
* * * *
Excellent! (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on 05:37 AM March 16th, 2000 CST (#811)
Now that rules! It needs to be posted somewhere where people can see it once it's completed. I'll definitely keep a copy on my website. Anyway, some more points to add:
Should I "feed" my trolls?
Feeding trolls needs to be done to people who outright flame your troll or who ask loads of dumb questions in an attempt to be reasonable. The longer their reply is, the better it is to reply to them. And if they get moderated up for their vacuous party-line response, troll them again
Anyway thanks for an amusing and (5, Insightful) read (or is it (-1, Offtopic)?) and I'll look foward to the finished version.
-- spiralx
From: Ceee Peee
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] talk about smoking crack...
Date sent: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 23:26:33 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0007)
Hi. I couldn't stay away, so I scrounged up some 'net
access. Hi.
I was talking with rusty indirectly about this, last
night. He was asking me why I wanted k5 Anne Marie's
nick -- that is, why I wanted to carry that "slashdot
baggage" over with me to k5, the same way siggy did.
It's funny, that way. I wanted k5 Anne Marie because
it's a lovely character troll of mine. Siggy wanted
"Signal 11" because it's the only way he's ever gotten
a lot of (any) attention. He's afraid to be just
Bojay Iverson, and it really comes across.
(This is CP0007)
Fraudativeras!!
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[Captain_Tenille] beeeceeee
[bc] 'ello
[ubu] hello, bic
[ubu] how are things?
[bc] alright
[ubu] we had a ridiculously interesting evening last night.
[bc] I'm better today, I sought legal advice
[ubu] ah? how was that?
[bc] about, ubu?
[bc] it was fine
[Captain_Tenille] I had to take the gf to the emergency room last night.
[Captain_Tenille] [--- not much sleep
[bc] oh yes, I remember you saying that was due
[ubu] yeesh, what for, CT?
[Captain_Tenille] We thought her miscarriage was done yesterday morning.
[Captain_Tenille] Turns out, it wasn't.
[Captain_Tenille] She went downhill all evening, then woke up around 1:15 with excrutiating cramps.
* ubu moans.
[ubu] i'm so sorry.
[Captain_Tenille] Like, screaming and writhing in pain bad.
[bc] shitey
[Captain_Tenille] Took her in, and waited for fucking ever.
[Captain_Tenille] I waited so long I thought they were doing a D&C and hadn't told me. Turned out she had to wait around too. She got vicodin, at least.
[cyndrekit] sucky CT
[cyndrekit] I had a really good friend misscarry
[cyndrekit] it went on for several days
[Captain_Tenille] It's been going on since Tuesday or Wednesdayish, I think.
[Captain_Tenille] We found out something might have been amiss only last Wednesday (the 6th).
[ubu] i am so sorry.
[bc] coo, & I always thought it an unpleasant thing that last 30 minutes
* cyndrekit hugs Captain_Tenille
[cyndrekit] bc: na, the body has to clean everything out
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[Captain_Tenille] Um, bye ubu
[cyndrekit] so is everything fine now?
[bc] I think he found that distressing ct, for personal reasons, so quit without saying anything
[Captain_Tenille] She's home sleeping.
[Captain_Tenille] Oh.
[cyndrekit] ya, it takes a toll
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[cyndrekit] make her eat - esspecially veggies with iron
[cyndrekit] like spinach
[cyndrekit] well, when she wakes up
[ubu] i just learned that the House Un-American Activities Committee was originally founded by a Democratic Senator, Samuel Dickstein, to ferret out Ku Klux Klansmen, "fascists", and other right-wing groups.
[ubu] it was called the Dickstein Committee for years, and Communists and liberals alike were very happy with it.
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[ubu] only after Martin Dies of Texas became its chairman did it turn its attentions to Communists in the government, at which point the Communists protested loudly that they were being persecuted, and their civil liberties violated.
[elby] i am looking for therapy please.
[bc] hey elby!
[bc] what may I help you with
[bc] state your case and insert $5 into machine
[bc] this is the automated psycholigist
[elby] Well, sometimes I cry when I masturbate
* elby inserts $5.
[bc] How do you feel when you cry when you masturbate?
[elby] I feel sad.
[bc] How do you feel when you feel sad?
[elby]
[elby] You are a crappy psychologists, i want my $5 back!
[cyndrekit] Hey elby!
[bc] Tell me about your mother
[elby] She has very soft hands.
[elby] hi cyn
[ubu] bc, county tells me i'm awkward.
[ubu] i don't think that's fair.
[bc] you are awkward. You never let anyone relax
[ubu] really?
[ubu] how's that?
[ubu] are you calling me high-maintenance?
[elby] I went to an odd funeral yesterday
[bc] Well, people are happily throwing around assumptions and having light hearted fun, and then you arrive with your demands for proof and urgent questioning
[bc] why odd?
[elby] Sort of a distant relative, never really knew the guy
[elby] but he lived in some backwoods town
[elby] at about 73 he passed
[elby] and he owned a topless bar
[bc] cool
[elby] There were a hell of a lot of interesting stories told about him.
[bc] so were all his stripper employees there?
[elby] Would have been interesting to know him more.
[bc] dresed in black?
[elby] No but there were bikers
[elby] I think one ex-stripper was there
[bc] heh
[ubu] demands for proof?
[ubu] what in God's name do you mean by that?
[bc] pity you never got in with him while he was alive, or paid any interest in your own flesh and blood. You could be the owner of a strip joint by now
[bc] ubu: see? You are doing it right now.
[ubu] i demand proof.
[bc] "[ubu] what in God's name do you mean by that?" [-that.
[ubu] hahaha!
[ubu] oh yeah, that. i guess that's awkward.
[bc] haha
[cyndrekit] wow, that was a trap he woulden't have been able to avoid
[cyndrekit] good one bc
[ubu] he really did get me, there.
[bc] heh
[elby] not really my own flesh and blood bc
[elby] not really directly related to me
[bc] well, if that salves your guilt, that's fine.
[elby] It's my half brothers father's stepfather.
[ubu] stingray softly sleeps
[ubu] my probing will not wake him
[bc] I keep my half brother's father's stepfather very close, and so should you have.
[ubu] sweet dreams, little one.
[elby] haha
[elby] Took you long enough.
[ubu] i poke, poke his face
[ubu] and yet he still ignores me
[elby] But BC, they lived in.... *shudder* oregon
[ubu] poke... poke... poke... poke... poke
[bc] well elby, such a misfortune should have motivaed you to help them however you could.
[cyndrekit] oy! down ubu!
[cyndrekit] your being abnormaly odd
[bc] pokey poke
[bc] A clip from the nine equals six to the grave, A to the muthafuckin' K, homeboy!
[elby] bc is a hard motherfucker.
[ubu] korean!
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[Captain_Tenille] Interesting: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=20721&cid=467
[bc] coo
[bc] he got everyone
[bc] except jsm
[bc] and he knows all the names, even obscure ones
[bc] which means it must be somebody on teh inside
[elby] boring.
[bc] the only one he didn't get was warren mann
[elby] haha
[elby] Oh, I'm sure craigs and warrens copies of the mailing list info has been spread all over.
[bc] heh
[elby] big deal, all we ever talked about were our silly slashdot conspiracies and some people used their real names in their email addresses.
[elby] I'm flattered people still care though
[bc] heh
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[bc] hmm
[elby] ok see you guys around, logging
[bc] bye elby
[elby] i check my io email more often than my aq mail if anyone needs to get in touch with me
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[Captain_Tenille] zuul, what's the word?
[zuul] Thunderbird!
[Captain_Tenille] zuul, what's the price?
[zuul] Forty twice!
[em] hey bc
[em] did you know that hospitals in the UK are underprepared for a nuke attack?
* em reads the news.
[em] "Congress on Friday passed legislation that would make it a crime to insert illicit or pornographic material into packaged food products."
[bc] underprepared eh? hmph
[em] http://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/11/15/product
[em] lol
[em] so I can stick pr0n inside food packages, it's legal
[em] well, until sometime next week
[Captain_Tenille] Better hurry
[me0w] I am hungry
[bc] me too
[bc] 'cept I just can't be bothered cooking
[me0w] bc, I would make you lunch
[bc] I haven't had anything to eat all day, and I got up at 6 and have been busy as hell
[me0w] Although, I guess it is dinner time over there.
[bc] me0w, luncheon would be perfect anyway. I don't feel like anything overheavy
[me0w] I made a yummy salad dressing the other day.
[bc] huh, is putting pornography inside food products a big problem in USia?
[bc] mm. I like salad, except for the lettuce part
[cyndrekit] i never heared of it
[bc] which I don't like much at all
[bc] especially if it is red
[bc] red lettuce is bogging
[me0w] I like romaine lettuce
[me0w] which is green
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[bc] covered in salt
[em] the motivation for the law seems not to have been pr0n, but a KKK pamphlet found by a 10-year old
[bc] eh
[bc] that's insane
[bc] people should be allowed to put whatever the like in food
[bc] bloody fascists!
* em discovers that Belarus is a nasty place
[Captain_Tenille] You *just* figured that out?
[bc] em lives in the groves of academe, ct, not in "the real world"
[bc] his horizons extend no farther than a copy of the Times Literary Supplement while a hot graduate student felates him
[bc] no wonder (incredible!) he didn't know about Belarus! Would you?
[Captain_Tenille] I know about Belarus. Have for years.
[Captain_Tenille] Of course, I've always been a history nut.
[bc] http://www.opendemocracy.net/themes/article.jsp?i
[bc] fun
[bc] I've never heard the House of Commons described as "dignified" though
[bc] it's very clearly anything but
[em] it's british. anything with that ridiculou accent sounds dignified out here.
[bc] what ridiculous accent?
[Captain_Tenille] Any of your ridiculous accents.
[cyndrekit] hehe
[bc] s'the mother tongue!
[Captain_Tenille] Remember, the English spoken in the Pacific Northwest is the least accented English in the world.
[Captain_Tenille] You need to learn to talk like me.
[bc] er, you mean the most accented
[Captain_Tenille] No, least.
[bc] furthest away from what I speak = most accented
[Captain_Tenille] Us, and St. Louis.
* bc is accentless
[Captain_Tenille] From what I understand.
[Captain_Tenille] em, care to comment?
[em] heh, i feel sorry for australians and new zealanders.
[em] they get confused for all sorts of things in USia
[bc] ct, it is all relative. Posh english people have the conceit that they have no accent. So, it now appears, do people in the pacific northwest
[em] so I was talking with this australian friend the other day. She told me that one of our first-year students called her by the nickname of somebody else-- an understandable error.
[Captain_Tenille] They train newscasters how to talk here, for Christ's sake!
[em] and
[bc] it seems hard to me to see how any accent can be stronger than another, they are all equivalent
[bc] just different
[em] she was telling him, "Oh, don't worry. The receptionist always confuses me an Melanie [this other student, from New Zealand]"
[em] so the kid goes: "Oh, that's because you're both British!"
[bc] heh
[em] OTOH this new kid in our department is an idiot.
[bc] if I moved to america, I wouldn't be understood at all. it'd quickly get on my tits, i suspect
[em] quite liable to open his mouth while keeping his ears closed.
[em] bc: maybe not
[bc] "ah sed ah wont a cuppa COFFEE!"
[em] I always assumed scottish people would be completely uncomprehensible.
[bc] em, my father lived there once, he had problems
[em] when I actually met some, I found them easier than a lot of brits.
[bc] also, the scottish people you met were doubtless posh
[bc] why else would they be going to parties in Stanford?
[em] dunno there.
[bc] working class accents in glasgow can be incomprehensible to *me*
[bc] and that's their norm
[bc] just today:
[bc] guy I was talking to said "On the second floor."
[bc] which I interpreted as "On the first of february."
[bc] dunno how I managed that. "on" is "oan", "second" becomes "secant", it ends with a t sound, and "floor" in glaswegian is like "flare"
[bc] and I'm not from glasgow! so it takes getting used to
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[Sulla] One young man sat on a concrete block spouting antiglobalization slogans while warming himself with a hot Whopper. This was funny, but also a little depressing. The Left, I thought, is in trouble.
[Sulla] ^^hehe
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[cyndrekit] where is that from?
[bc] http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/314/focus/Criti
[cyndrekit] thought so
[cyndrekit] sounded almost to clever to be you.
[bc] heh
[bc] you mean "not clever enough"
[cyndrekit] hehe
[cyndrekit] yea... thats it...
[cyndrekit]
[bc] good
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[bc] em
[bc] you should bring back aqbot
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[bc] hey vaginux
[momocrome] ok, let's try it out
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[bc] looking sharp in your new suit!
[vaginux] lessee if I get some crap
[bc] hehe, going to join #k5?
[vaginux] already in #k5, #everything, #slashdot
[bc] coo, that's lots of channels
[bc] I bet you like all of them better than us
[vaginux] not at all. I want to hurt those other channels
[bc] hehe!
[vaginux] i want to make them pay for my years of suffering
[bc] I think I will drop into #k5, haven't been in there in yonks
[vaginux] I always get picked on by geeks
[bc] but I need a new nick, I don't want the usual attacks I get
[bc] haha!
[bc] yes, they are bad those geeks, with their love of sport and bullying ways
[vaginux] hmm. do you want it to be mundane or a touch more controversial?
[bc] I'm trying to think of what the name of that 52yo woman tombuck laid is
[vaginux] speaking of whuch, who did the KKK story that's in the k5 queue?
[bc] tuppy something
[bc] dunno, vaginux, it was funny though
[cyndrekit] how about just candice?
[bc] hmm
[cyndrekit] or do you want someone established?
[bc] I'll try to find it
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[tuppy_owens] candice, cyndrekit?
[cyndrekit] I thought you were just lookin for any female name
[cyndrekit] so i thought i would throw that one out
[tuppy_owens] heh
[me0w] hehehehehehhe
[tuppy_owens] hehe
From: cptroll
) and pioneer an entirely PICTOGRAPHIC version (http://ilovebacon.bla-bla.com/noway/112100c.shtml ).
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] why the internet rules
Date sent: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 17:29:43 -0500
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0037)
Did you get that from ilovebacon.com? Because if you did, then I'm disappointed you didn't note how those industrious Germans are at it again. Who else could pick up on the failure of dogs to read their 'no pooping' signs (http://ilovebacon.bla-bla.com/noway/110300.shtml
Without such innovation at home, it's little wonder Amerika is scraping
the bottom of the corporate barrel abroad.
jlb <jlb@io.com> wrote:
>http://www.d111.k12.id.us/BHS/BHS.htm
(This is CP0037)
Adequacy Still Sucks Ass!
I've been a fool to myself,
I thought that I could live for no one else.
But now, through all the hurt and pain,
It's time for me to respect,
The ones you love mean more than anything.
So with sadness in my heart,
Feel the best thing I could do,
Is end it all, and leave forevar.
What's done is done, it feels so bad,
What once was happy now is sad,
I'll never love again,
My world is ending.
I wish that I could turn back time,
'Cause now the guilt is all mine,
Can't live without the trust from those you love.
I know we can't forget the past,
You can't forget love and pride,
Because of that, it's killing me inside.
It all returns to nothing,
It all comes tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling down.
It all returns to nothing,
I just keep letting me down, letting me down, letting me down.
In my heart of hearts,
I know that I could never love again.
I've lost evarthing... evarthing...
Evarthing that matters to me matters in this world!
I wish that I could turn back time,
'Cause now the guilt is all mine,
Can't live without the trust from those you love.
I know we can't forget the past,
You can't forget love and pride,
Because of that, it's killing me inside.
It all returns to nothing,
It all comes tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling down.
It all returns to nothing,
I just keep letting me down, letting me down, letting me down.
It all returns to nothing,
It all comes tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling down.
It all returns to nothing,
I just keep letting me down, letting me down, letting me down.
[bc] momomomo :) :) :) How'd you find it? Is it the one where he takes the drug and it makes him recklessly courageous? :)9 945 ;) :-) LOL :-) :-) :-) :-) :\2 27.shtml?tid=109 :-) /etc/resolv.conf, or tweak my registry, or any of that hippie geek bullshit, I just want to do my fucking work...... stmo ry.jsp?story=351901 /topic whatever you want the topic to be here /msg nickserv identify yerpass /msg chanserv op #adequacy dmg :-( /topic test /quote topic test /quote topic test, it does that too8 776 ;) :\
[momocrome] KKK and the kuro5hin/modsub - a monograph of prophecy
[momocrome] Dear Reader, there will be flames./
[bc] heh
[momocrome] there is a lot of wackyness in today's queue
[bc] there's been this running anti-liberal crapflooding
[momocrome] I have a dry story about low-emission engines and electric hybrids nearly ready
[bc] up from the grass roots
[bc] heh, nice
[momocrome] it would be hailed as a masterwork during a flood like this
[bc] yes, it'll get a zillion FPs
[bc] make sure it is typo-free and don't bother with edit mode, post it straight
[momocrome] I'll crack it open
[momocrome] I was also working on a history of the Rastafarian Faith...
[momocrome] maybe that would be more timelyu
[bc] hmmn, which is closer to completion?
[bc] get something out there fast to capitalise on friday busyness and frustration
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[momocrome] trollaxor is making the rounds in #kuro5hin
[momocrome] oops he's left
[bc] wanker
[momocrome] I thought you might want to say hi to him, bc
[bc] not really
[bc] I won't forgive him for his involvement in the vlad-persecution and, in general, his fuckwitishness
[Captain_Tenille] Hmm. Just left #giz, too
[momocrome] bc?
[bc] what?
[momocrome] i am msging you thx
[momocrome] a private msg for bc... do you accept?
[cyndrekit] i will
[cyndrekit] zuul, seen perdida?
[zuul] perdida was last seen on #adequacy 2 days, 20 hours, 26 minutes and 34 seconds ago, saying: byeees [Tue Nov 12 18:40:22 2002]
[shoeboy] hullo
[Captain_Tenille] Hey shoeboy
[shoeboy] hey ct
* shoeboy is bored bored bored
[Captain_Tenille] How goes?
* Captain_Tenille is on the verge of falling asleep
[momocrome] wow, first trollaxor, now shoeboy. it's like 2000 A.D. all over again.
[shoeboy] watching cpu activity on a server
[shoeboy] it's almost hypnotic
[shoeboy] I've got a task that wakes every 2 seconds, so it's nice an rhythmic
[Captain_Tenille] "We now return to the thrilling conclusion to "CPU Levels on a Server". There will be no further interruptions."
[shoeboy] 33% activity across 4 processors
[shoeboy] spikes every 2 seconds
[shoeboy] exciting
[momocrome] so is that four physical processors, or two hyperthreaded xeons?
[shoeboy] 4 physical procs
[shoeboy] hyperthreading is garbage
[momocrome]
[Captain_Tenille] Awww
[momocrome] Hyperthreading is the flavor of the month.
[Captain_Tenille] Someone is making a lasagna for my gf and I.
[shoeboy] hrm... I was reading the wrong counter, cpu is only at 8%
* bc smacks his lips
[bc] food was excellent
[bc] now for smoke
[bc] hi shoe btw
* shoeboy finished "Flasman and the Mountain of Light" last night
[bc] great
[bc] I was LMAO at that
[shoeboy] no, it's the one covering the sikh war
[bc] oh, the Koh I Noor?
[bc] Khalsa etc?
[Captain_Tenille] Isn't that a large jewel of some sort?
[shoeboy] yeah
[shoeboy] that's the one
[bc] that's a good one
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[Captain_Tenille] I can't remember if it's a diamond or an emerald
[shoeboy] the bit where he's instructing the Sikh Wazir on how to lose is brilliant
[shoeboy] it's a diamond
[bc] I love the idea of all the intrigue
[dmg] whasssssuuuuup ?
[bc] one side trying to lose, but make it look like they had tried
[bc] hey dmg
[dmg] hey bc
[dmg] http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=20721&cid=467
[dmg] I don't like it one bit...
[Captain_Tenille] Is that the list of names?
[dmg] yeah
* Captain_Tenille posted that in here earlier today
[dmg] Mr McP
[dmg] up to his old tricks
[dmg] or
[bc] yes. It' probably craig, perhaps osm
[Captain_Tenille] Do we know anyone in Arkansas?
[dmg] and anti McP trying to discredit Mr McP
[dmg] why Arkansas ?
[Captain_Tenille] Doesn't craig live there?
[shoeboy] yup
[Captain_Tenille] Maybe a hit could be put out on him.
[bc] he lives not too far from kansas City
[Captain_Tenille] Arkansas is a small state.
[bc] which is where he and osm and trollaxor get together to take photos of them in their "phoneboys" garb
[dmg] isn't KKKlinton from Arkansas ?
[Captain_Tenille] Ja.
[Captain_Tenille] bc: Where's osm from?
[momocrome] osm is kansas too, iirc
[bc] KC is where he lives
[bc] same as trollaxor
[Captain_Tenille] Ah.
[dmg] the intrigue
[Captain_Tenille] I knew trollaxor lived there, but not osm.
[shoeboy] I wonder where Craig got my name?
[dmg] trolling subculture is just so....
[bc] yay, fujaba downloaded after only 4 attempts, damned germans
[Captain_Tenille] So much intrigue over absolutely NOTHING!
[dmg] intenst
[bc] hehe shoe
[dmg] shoeboy:
[dmg] wasn't he on the list ?
[momocrome] heh shoeboy
[shoeboy] dmg, I've never been on the list
[dmg] I could have sworn...
[bc] the list is dead anyway
[dmg] at least 20721 is quite funny at the moment
[dmg] in a manic depression/add sort of way
[bc] there's one post every 6 months and has been for 18 months
[dmg] bc: which list are you talking about ?
[bc] k22320
[dmg] k22320inchfan ?
[dmg] oh
[bc] no, the other one
[dmg] editors@
[dmg] adequacy.org
[bc] nono
[bc] not that one either
[bc] you know, the *real* one. Weren't you invited?
[dmg] what the real TOP SECRET one that noone knows about ?
[dmg] ok
[dmg] we are on the same page now.
[bc] hehe
[bc] k22320, I meant, for being totally dead
[dmg] aha
[dmg] I met spiralx and IAT last night
[bc] *k22320inchfan is dying
[dmg] red ink
[dmg] etc
[dmg] kreskin
[dmg] face facts
[bc] charnel house
[dmg] all practical purposes
[dmg] netcraft
[dmg] look at the figures
[dmg] IAT had a goth woman move into his flat
[dmg] from match.com
[bc] wow really?!?
[dmg] yeah
[bc] I'm sure I'm the one that showed him match.com
[bc] also, last I saw him was sunday
[dmg] she sat around all day watching "monarch of the glen" on tv
[bc] he was moaning about having split up with his gf
[dmg] that's her
[bc] redhead?
[dmg] she was 15st, goth, redhead 6'2"
[dmg] allegedly
[bc] haha! That lying bastard, he was criticising hotornot and internet dating
[dmg] he is going to try again...
[bc] anyway, this means but one thing: match.com must be searched for iat's ex-gf
[dmg] LOL LOL LOL LOL
[dmg] keywords goth "monarch of the glen"
[dmg] tv
* Captain_Tenille is mistrustful of girls taller than him
[bc] haha
[dmg] I am mistrustful of the female sex
[dmg] in general.
[dmg] especially after my eventful wednesday evening...
[Captain_Tenille] I am six feet tall.
[Captain_Tenille] Any female taller than that is a mostrosity and a mutant!
[dmg] no no no
[dmg] we are all equal in the eyes of god
[bc] what happened on wed?
[dmg] tall, short
[dmg] white black
[dmg] libertarian, communist
[dmg] bc: you know my friend ?
[bc] yes
[dmg] I was right about her
[dmg] she DID want me.
[bc] and she told you as much?
[dmg] I am now sporting a sex-related injury
[bc] haha
[dmg] its not funny
[dmg] my leg hurts
[bc] good. Yes, it is funny though
[dmg] when I put weight on it
[dmg] it was so amusing.
[bc] another #adequacy dating advice success!
[dmg] it was pretty much the most rampant sex I have had in my life...
[dmg] so much for her protestations of not being interested
[bc] hehe
[dmg] #adequacy rules !!!!
[dmg] doing the right thing for the wrong reasons!!!
[dmg] I was late for work
[bc] you're lucky. All I came home to on wednesday was a fucking nasty writ from Ayr Sherriff County Court.
[dmg] LOL
[bc] well, not from them, but requesting that I appear before them
[dmg] Which reminds me, better go and pay my credit card bill brb
[bc] "request" being more like "appear or else"
[Captain_Tenille] GodDAMN it!
[Captain_Tenille] My fucking office chair just broke!
[bc] haha
[Captain_Tenille] I loved that chair.
[bc] did it happen while you were sitting in it, with the result that you spread everywhere hilariously?
[Captain_Tenille] No. It fell over after I stood up, and one of the bottom things broke off.
[Captain_Tenille] It had been breaking for a couple of weeks.
* Captain_Tenille has not had a pleasant past couple of weeks.
[bc] heh
[bc] fuck sake, fucking fucking fujaba gives and exception on the one major piece of functionality I wanted
[bc] goddamned thing
[bc] "write once, run anywhere" [-haha
[dmg] bc what do the authorities want with you ?
[dmg] presumably they are trying to coerce you
[dmg] in some way
[bc] they are, but rightfully. it is not the government that is coercing me, but I private organisation I have breached a contract with
[cyndrekit] hehe this is by far my favorite scoop site design wise http://www.artificialcheese.com/
[bc] and now have to plea with, though hopefully I should be successful
[dmg] bc: I am surprised
* Captain_Tenille is bored
[dmg] I thought you of all people would honour a voulantary contract!
[dmg] being an anarcho-capitalist/libertarian and all that
[bc] well I would have, but I didn't realise I was breaking it until it was too late
[dmg] ignorance is no defence
[bc] ]:(
[bc] everybody makes mistakes and suffers the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune
[dmg] yes, but a contract is a CONTRACT. Its the fundamental bedrock of society....
[bc] I agree! And people break them, sometimes in error, sometimes deliberately, and in both cases restitution is just
[dmg] you will get what's coming to you, mark my words...
[bc] I willfully submit to the court and can only plead before them, they are human beings and shall hopefully see my POV
[bc] and grant me a return into the contract as it was before
[dmg] I hope they don't let you get away with anything....
[Captain_Tenille] What did you not do, bc?
[dmg] after all, a contract is legally binding, and freely entered in to.
[dmg] it would be a mockery and a travesty if they let you get away with flouting it.
[bc] of course it is, dmg, however it is not a mockery and a travesty if they accept all too human error at their discretion, Humanity is at the heart of our justice system too, and the company whose contract I have breached is composed of employees who are human beings, and should see this as nothing but a simple error
[dmg] bc: I expect the contract will have a just penalty clause for this kind of situation...
[bc] I don't think it does. It is a fairly unusual situation
[bc] but I am willing to accept penalties
[dmg] slashdot blatantly trolls it's moronic readership again.... http://ask.slashdot.org/askslashdot/02/11/13/2127
[dmg] "While I did pay Microsoft for Office for Mac, I try to avoid filling their coffers whenever possible, so for all the family/friends who rely on me for computer recommendations I recommend Mac or Linux."
[dmg] Wanker.
[dmg] Liar too
[bc] haha
[bc] holy crap
[dmg] its straight from the "howto"
[dmg] category "elitism"
[bc] I especially like this bit:
[bc] My own situation is that I use an IT-mandated Win98 (ugh) laptop at work, but at home I'm Mac OS X all the way.
[bc] huh??
[dmg] WIn98 and MacOs are virtually indistinguishable to normal people.
[bc] My own situation is that I use an Prprietary system I (ugh) laptop at work, but at home I'm Proprietary System II all the way.
[dmg] exactly
[dmg] but who gives a fuck, anyway ?
[dmg] its just a fucking computer.
[dmg] Its not a life-or-death issue.
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[bc] it's not anti-proprietary reasoning, it isn't anti-crapsoftware reasoning, it is anti-MS reasoning and that's it
[bc] yes
[bc] it's a damned computer! who cares
[dmg] I just want to get my work done.
[bc] What keeps me on windows? (Score:5, Funny)
[bc] by Real World Stuff on Friday November 15, @04:26PM (#4680158)
[bc] (User #561780 Info | http://www.elbbs.com/elbbs/jude/hegebaby.html | Last Journal: Friday November 08, @01:30PM)
[bc] Why the Microsoft ads on Slashdot of course!
[dmg] I don't want to edit my
[bc] same here
[bc] I like that windows is so closed
[bc] otherwise I'd just be horsing around forever
[bc] all the time
[dmg] Looks like the yanks may have caught Osama!!!
[bc] as it is, it just works
[bc] wow really??
[dmg] http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2482545
[dmg] doesn't mention him by name...
[dmg] but I bet al-jazeera is well infiltrated by MI5/6
[dmg] and they seem to have a hotline to him
[bc] hmmn
[bc] I doubt they are well-infiltrated
[dmg] "I can't tell you when, I can't tell you where, I can't tell you how," said one unnamed official. "But this is a big deal."
[dmg] Who else can they be talking about ?
[bc] Sources told the Reuters news agency that the person who had been captured was neither al-Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden's right-hand man, Ayman al-Zawahri, nor operational leader Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, nor Bin Laden's son Saad.
[bc] heh, who does that leave I wonder?
[dmg] I need to go check out my conspiracy sites...
[dmg] http://argument.independent.co.uk/commentators/st
[bc] dmg, you'll like this a lot: http://reason.com/0210/artifact.shtml
[dmg] Bin Laden is alive
[dmg] Fucking-A!!!!
[bc] hehe
[dmg] I LOVE it....
[dmg] it hints at so much
[dmg] without actually saying anything.
[bc] I love the blurb underneath
[bc] what were they thinking?
[dmg] the latin phrase is the icing on the cake
[bc] "Hmmn, a big eye looking over the earth, that will be reassuring and comforting!"
[dmg] someone has an awesome sense of humour
[bc] that agency is big and nasty though
[dmg] I am surprised that the Euro does not feature pyramids on its banknotes.
[bc] they are doing the supposed Carnivore II stuff
[dmg] oh
[bc] http://reason.com/sullum/111502.shtml
[dmg] this will be logged then.
[bc] I love reason.com
[dmg] bin laden, terrorism, dirty bomb, al-quaida
[dmg] oklahoma city
[dmg] fbi
[dmg] cia
[dmg] etc
[bc] that and justin raimondo and von mises and aldaily are worth a daily read
[bc] as well as being a sexy, sexy man
[dmg] men are not sexy to me.
[dmg] except Sam Sloan.
[dmg] he has the experience of life
[bc] I find justin sexier than sam sloan
[bc] though sam is pretty sexy
[dmg] were I ever to turn gay and desire rampant butt sex
[bc] http://www.antiwar.com/justin/justincol.html
[bc] just look at his rugged good looks
[dmg] Sam would be the man for the job.
[bc] (and remember, he actually is gay)
[dmg] bc: everyone is bisexual
[dmg] "gays" are just repressed
[bc] hehe
[dmg] "The US was finally forced to acknowledge yesterday that the man some of them had claimed to be dead was still very much in the land of the living - and uttering the kind of threat that fulfils the worst nightmares of Western leaders."
[bc] "Most of us 'neo-isolationists,' a disparate, contentious lot, are realy [sic] not 'neo' anything. We are old church and old right, anti-imperialist and anti-interventionist, disbelievers in Pax Americana. We love the old republic, and when we hear phrases like 'New World Order,' we release the safety catches on our revolvers." --Pat Buchanan
[bc] I love that!
[dmg] is that they are too intellectual for the masses.
[dmg] we need "new Conservatives"
[dmg] Thatcherism with better marketing
[bc] there're the "neoconservatives" in USia
[bc] so the label is really taken, by the wrong people
[bc] our conservatives just suck
[dmg] I am economically right wing, and socially, I don't give a fuck what you do so long as I don't have to subsidise it....
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[dmg] thanks to #adequacy I had some of the best sex of my life...
[dmg] bc:
[dmg] how do I set the topic
[bc] first, get yourself opped
[bc] then
[bc] to op yourself, type
[dmg] can you op me
[bc]
[bc] ok wait a sec, I'll reg myself
[dmg] that didnt work
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[cyndrekit] whats going on?
[bc] there
[bc] cyn?
[cyndrekit] ahh
[cyndrekit] topic changes
[dmg] it still doesn't work
[bc] eh??
[bc]
[cyndrekit] i can do it
[bc] try that
[dmg] I type "/topic" test
[bc] you do it in quotes?
[dmg] "no topic is set"
[bc] huh
[dmg] does it make a difference ?
[bc] are you using trillian?
[dmg] bc: yes
[bc] can you right click or whatever or try clicking on the topic or whatever, they have probably gui-ed it
[dmg] nothing happens
[bc] hmm
[bc] try
[bc] ?
[bc] oh
[dmg] "No Topic is set"
[bc] when I do
[bc] so yer fucked unless you use a different client seems to me
[bc] tell me what you want the topic to be, and I'll do it
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[dmg] bc:
[dmg] thanks to #adequacy I had some of the best sex of my life...
[dmg] thats the topic
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[dmg] well dony
[bc] woohoo!
* bc continues searching for a UML modeller that is free and works, goddamnit to hell
[dmg] did you know tombuck is a wannabe slashdot troll ?
[dmg] http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=44937&cid=465
[cyndrekit] "how many #adequacy ops does it take to change a topic?"
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[bc] LOL
[bc] @cyn
[cyndrekit] hehe
[dmg] cyn: adequacy ops don't do "techie" stuff. They pay someone else to do it
[cyndrekit] so iv'e noticed...
[cyndrekit]
[bc] that's tombuch dmg?? coo
[dmg] apparently
[dmg] he's new to trolling
[bc] he got 22 mod points spent on him, that's pretty impressive
[dmg] not bad
[dmg] slagging off NASA always pulls them in.
[bc] I remember my first successful troll like it was yesterday
[bc] oh the exhilleration!
[bc] it was a post called "Why HAL should never be developed"
[bc] by Kiss the Blade
[bc] that was trademarkedly luddite, anti-techi, and snooty and superior and artistic and such
[bc] in a boring story about 2001: A Space Odyssey or some crap
[dmg] KTB was good
[bc] it was a laugh, and about my 3rd ever post, and it got 40 replies
[dmg] trolling
[dmg] those were the days
[dmg] nowadays it has become impossible to troll
[bc] that was at eexactly the same time as everybody abandoned sid=trolltalk for the k5 trolltalk sid
[dmg] Baudrillard would say that trolls are indistinguishable from genuine opinions
[dmg] they are simulacra
[bc] and I didn't know any of you lot, so I was left all alone, and nobody noticed my sublime period of success ]~((
[dmg] ive been thinking about that a lot.
[dmg] It does not matter whether the expounder of a viewpoint is sincere
So is anyone else here in the States concerned that there might be a growing gap in clap and fling technology?
Inventor of the LOLbalrog meme.
From: cptroll
/. userbio to reflect it). As near as I can
/ 12/4/145812/319
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] cp, is this you?
Date sent: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 19:04:43 -0500
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0001)
Nope. (I saw that diary this morning.) Anne Marie doesn't have a k5
account (and I've updated her
tell, it was registered by the same person who registered CmdrTaco on k5
-- at least the garbage on the user page is consistent between the two.
Anyone who wants to point out the inconsistencies is welcome (I'll
refrain). Do you suppose if I <b>harass rusty</b> he'll give me the 'Anne Marie'
account?... He is known to be troll-friendly....
For now, I only post on k5 under "cp", though I have a 3k-range account
I'm holding in reserve in case a low uid# is ever needed to win a penis
contest. Technically, "Trivia Contest" was mine since I'm the idiot who
started that idea (and it's wasted at least some of rusty's morning,
though in a pleasant educational fashion), but that one's out of my
control now. I'm exploring social-engineering options outside of the mere
LWM disinformation/flaming I'm accustomed to.
Luis Casillas <casillas@stanford.edu> wrote:
>You may need a k5 account to see this:
>
> http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=displaystory&sid=2000
>
>The fact that the account is "Ann_a_ Marie" seems to argue against
>it... Anyway, you were around for the original "Real Bruce Perens"
>stuff, right?
>
>--
>Luis Casillas
>Department of Linguistics
>Stanford University
(This is CP0001)
Remembering the chaos theory description of the wide reaching potential of tiny effects:
:-)
Do we now have robotic weather control ?
You were fun when you were intelligent, now you are just stupid.
Wow, ohmyGOD, Pumpernickel told me to FOAD. I guess I'd better do what he says!! Oh, wait. There's absolutely no reason for me to do what he says, now that I think about it.
Creative material. Creative material. Creative material.
Creative material. Creative material. Creative material.
Creative material. Creative material. Creative material.
Creative material. Creative material. Creative material.
Creative material. Creative material. Creative material.
Creative material. Creative material. Creative material.
Creative material. Creative material.
Confidential material.
Confidential material.
Confidentail material.
That's just scratching the surface. I could go back further, if you like.
If you actually look, you'll see that 90% of the real spam (multiple identical messages posted minute apart in an attempt to push our messages off the page) is posted by our enemies, Lockwood and his VladeKua5y minions. Maybe you just don't read carefully.
We generate more original material than evaryone else here COMBINED, and we generate BETTER stuff, too. We ARE Trolltalk. We are what's keeping it alive despite all attempts to destroy it. YOU are one of those attempts.
Vlad--
You fat fucking piece of shit! Why didn't you tell us you were involved
with the Al-Quaida network of terrorist cells in the United States? We would
have understood! And arrested you, granted, but what kind of American are
you?
Your years in the Navy (all eight of them) ought to have taught you a
little patriotism. Maybe it was the constant hazing with coin-filled socks
by your fellow enlisted, or the constant write-ups by the officers, that led
to a bitterness too intense for most to taste. Maybe. But if that wasn't it,
the dishonorable discharge for obesity and latent homosexuality probably put
you over the top. Who knew a military career could lead to hating the United
States of America so much that you'd aid Osama bin Laden and his army of
fanatics in bringing our economy to its knees.
Of course, it's possible it wasn't just your military career's string of
embarrassments over the years that led to your rash America-hating
decisions. Perhaps it was your mental health. It's no mystery to anyone
anymore that you have a martyr complex, chronic (or "major," as you call it)
depression, psychotic delusions of persecution (which lead to actual
persecution), and anti-social disorder. If it were me with the string of
divorces, restraining order filed by my own children, or the job record
longer than the Mississippi, I'd be in a therapists office or on pills or
something. And if none of that worked, I'd kill myself (hint, hint).
I imagine the feeling that never being able to succeed breeds would work its
way into anyone's skull. I mean, after the second wife I would have bought a
plane ticket to Yemen. You're on wife #4, and on top of that (listen for the
rafters breaking) she weighs 400 fucking pounds.
Well, here's my wish to you that you get what you deserve-- which is
Osama bin Laden and a dozen of his most well-hung, bearded, filthy Muslim
terrorist commandos pumping their huge circumcised cocks in and out of every
orifice of your bloated, sweating body. And, of course, I hope that you
break your jaw on Osama bin Laden's bucking love-bazooka and then choke to
death on his deluge of Islamic semen and go straight to the lowest pit of
Hell positioned directly under Satan's squatting haunches for all of
eternity.
Fuck you, Vlad!
From: cptroll
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Trolling as a gift from God
Date sent: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 17:30:10 -0400
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0027)
So maybe now is not a good time to mention that I actually like that shit. TB1's ok, but TB2/3 and the Millennium Bell are great.
80md <eightymd@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>From: "Mendax Veritas" <mendaxveritas@yahoo.com>
>>
>>. . . the art of trolling is taught by the devil himself in a dark
>>grotto deep within the isle of Crete when the moon is full on Sam-hayn,
>>to a soundtrack of Tubular Bells and Ozzy,
>
>_Tubular Bells_! CREEPING CANNIBAL CHRIST! That
>name alone strikes more fear deeper into my heart
>than a thousand chill winds, on Crete or elsewhere
(This is CP0027)
From: Ceee Peee
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: [k22320inchfan] No respect
Date sent: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 08:57:36 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0018)
Today was the appointed date for jury duty (postponed since this summer, since the idiots at the courthouse failed to divine that calling a student to duty in the county where he studies rather than resides permanently doesn't make any sense). It was my hope to get on a jury, since I highly value the (unconstitutionally diminishing) role of the jury in American jurisprudence.
I showed up this morning at the courthouse. After some buffoonery at the security check (hint: don't carry a cpu in your backpack when arriving for jury duty), I went upstairs where I signed in and was informed that I had already missed the video (shucks). I filled out some paperwork and was redirected to the grand-jury room.
This was a potential mixed blessing. Grand juries, as distinguished from petite ("normal") juries, are the first line that the state must cross before obtaining an indictment for the accused. They consist of 23 laypersons whose standard is "probable cause" rather than "reasonable doubt" and vote by majority rule whether to issue an indictment. The prosecutor presents his witnesses and evidence, and the defendant has no representation. Normally, the grand-jury trial is brief and 99% or so of all grand juries return an indictment. Prosecutors often refer to this statistic as the "ability to indict a ham sandich" if they so please. Grand juries usually sit for one day per week for three months, something that would screw up any student's semester.
The good thing about grand juries is that they have almost infinite investigatory powers to do whatever they please. What is not commonly understood is that the role of the grand jury isn't just to return a verdict in the form of an indictment; it's for members to question witnesses, subpoena evidence the prosecutor didn't present, and generally get the whole story. It's even within the power of the grand jury to expell the prosecutor and judge if the jury so decides.
I was prepared to give them hell. Once on a jury
(grand or otherwise), I was going to be the asshole
lawyer the defendant isn't allowed to have. I was
going to subpoena bank records, grill prosecutorial
witnesses, and vote to nullify anything I considered
unjust (even when "legal"). I was going to persuade
enough fellow jurors to kick out anyone we didn't
like, especially the prosecutor. In short, I was
going to troll the legal system.
But I didn't get that opportunity. After an hour of
sitting in the grand-jury room, we were informed that
we weren't waiting for a grand-jury seating: instead,
a petite-jury seating.
Petite juries, in states that value the constitution,
are 12-person panels that sit and hear evidence in the
actual criminal trial. Their role is ostensibly to
decide the facts and apply the law as directed by the
judge. Their actual role under the constitution
(though the Supreme Court doesn't require that you be
informed of this) is to sit in judgment not just on
the facts but also on the law. Again, I was hoping to
get a chance to nullify stuff: this time, drug laws
and other things I believe unconstitutional.
Again, I was denied. Only five minutes later, we were
informed that all the cases pending today were
plea-bargained, and we were "free to go". A sigh of
relief was heard throughout the room, as people who
didn't want to be there were grateful that they didn't
have to serve on a jury and perform the duty they
didn't want to perform. I was disgusted.
That's what's most wrong with plea bargaining in this
country. Not that 90% of cases never reach public
scrutiny because they're decided in the hallways of
courthouses. Not that people serve penalties for
unconstitutional charges. Not that real criminals get
off with reduced sentences. Not that the legislatures
feel free to pass an absurd number of laws without
caring whether the court system can handle the load of
giving each citizen true justice.
None of that.
What's wrong is that I, a troll, have been kept off my
damn jury. No respect.
(This is CP0018)
Will meteorology profit from mechanical butterflies?
How small a thought it takes to fill a whole life
Outside of the core group , there are supporters,
wellwishers, and fellow Vlad haters who share one binding aspect
with us (disdain for Vladinator), but who aren't officially
affiliated with us. Thus, we do not form a "gang" or any other
recognizable command structure.
There many, many people in the world who dislike Lockwood; some
have formed into small groups to work together, but most act as free
agents. We don't really know the identities of many people outside
our core group, nor do we know whether a given person
outside our core group is a free agent or is affiliated
with another group.
These activities are by nature clandestine and solitary, thus we
only work freely with allies we've met in meatspace and can trust
absolutely. I have no idea of the exact number of fellow Vlad-haters
out there (I know it's large), or whether or not any of them have
formed cabals similar to our own, so please don't go lumping us all
together.
Generally, we operate in clusters or "cells" where one member of
one cell is designated as a messenger with a similarly designated
member of another cell. If the designated messenger is discovered,
that individual is "disposed of" and another individual is selected.
In this way, no single cell is aware of how many members are in
any other cell and the only thing known of the membership of other
cells is the mutual identities of the messengers. Each cell is
constructed such that only the messenger from one other cell
is in contact with the messenger of any given cell. Therefore, we
cannot form a "gang" as you call it.
Instead, you would be more correct to refer to us as a "sweeping
cluster of antibodies reacting to a foreign body in order to prevent
it from damaging the host."
Thanks bunches.
From: Ceee Peee
:)
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Vlad needs to be terminated
Date sent: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 01:32:20 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0012)
Did you guys get to it before vlad deleted the img tag to hello.jpg? Apparently authors are given free reign to put all sorts of html in their stories.
I wouldn't worry too much about vlad fucking things up. Our own slash site would be ideal, of course, but short of that, I'm in favor of using a site where we have registered authors who can clean up the crap and play with the settings. Today, I gave myself god mode (such wonderfully secure stuff, slashcode is) and created author "gbd" for the purpose of posting gbd's communism article (vlad'll shit a brick, I'm sure) before deleting the author to clean up -- it's not out of the question to create other authors for the rest of you guys, though the polite thing would be to run it by vlad first. I also got ahold of vlad's slashdot password, though I don't plan to do anything with it (he already metamodded). He's not the brightest in the bunch, but he's tame, and I'm not sure he's figured out the db enough to track us down.
I'm still working out the details so don't quote me, but a potentially workable scenario by my metric is: we each get author status, we post a hidden section article on geekizoid as no-comments (like zengan did with the iraq article way back when), and since we're all authors, we can override the "no comments" aspect and post away. Someone might still be able to find t, but at least the signal/noise level won't be any orse than we ourselves make it.
--- jlb wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, John Montoya wrote:
> > And actually, his "Alan Greenspan" story was quite
> > funny.
>
> Just found out, that was by cp, fyi.
>
> You didn't think vlad came up with it, did you?
>
> --
> "Is this real?"
> "Does it matter?"
>
(This is CP0012)
[dmg] and then I will be in Tokyo/south Korea in April /msg datebot Why aren't women drawn to my l33t Linux skilz?
[dmg] Who are you anyway Lumpen ?
[bc] you are drunk ever 36 hours
[dmg] I am not sure I should be giving this information out.
[Lumpen] Just a fan, dmg.
[county] Well, I need to stay sober for now, because I have a date!
[First_Incision] why am I always sober? I should take up this drinking thing.
[county] Yes, do.
[First_Incision] maybe I just need to get used to it. I could never drink enough to get drunk. Once I could feel stupidity creeping up, I could never bring myself to continue.
[county] Strange.
[dmg] county: did you get your date from reading the excellent dating advice available here on #adequacy ?
[county] Once I can feel stupidity creeping up, I can't bring myself to stop.
[county] dmg, I actually lied about having a date.
[Lumpen] does #adequacy have a dating-advice bot?
[dmg] county: its IRC
[dmg] you can lie if you want
[First_Incision] Lumpen: it should!
[First_Incision] zuul, dating?
[zuul] first_incision: wish i knew
[First_Incision] zuul, women?
[zuul] bugger all, i dunno, first_incision
[First_Incision] zuul, men?
[zuul] men are really just boys with financial responsibilities
[dmg] zuul, should I visit a whore ?
[zuul] dmg: wish i knew
[county] I witnessed an shocking display of female pettiness and cruelty today. It put me off.
[Lumpen]
[First_Incision] zuul, linux
[zuul] hmmm... linux is a big POS half rate OS that encourages pirates and blatant faggotry!!!!!
[bc] perhaps you aren't skillful enough
[First_Incision] there you go!
[bc] if you can use these skills to make lots&LOTS of money, they will be drawn to those skills
[Lumpen] Not skilzful enough?
[dmg] zuul, bsd
[zuul] rumour has it bsd is dying
*** bc has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer)
*** Sulla (gallus@modem-2446.porcupine.dialup.pol.co.uk) has joined #adequacy
[Lumpen] But I installed the Linux on my home b0xen all by myself!
[Lumpen] You should just reopen Adequacy. The joke has gone on long enough.
[First_Incision] Perdida has her Iniquity "Daily", but I can't seem to finish an article for it.
[Lumpen] Iniquity?
[First_Incision] www.iniquitydaily.com
[dmg] adequacy is dead. Red ink flowed like a river of blood! you didn't have to be Kreskin to see that it was dying. Fact: adequacy is dead.
[county] perdida has a scoop site?
[county] Oh heavens, do spare us.
[Lumpen] It looks like the most recent article on iniquitydaily was posted about a month ago.
[First_Incision] yeah
[Lumpen] Lame.
[First_Incision] And it was a k5 reject
[cyn-away] bc knows more about it
From: Ceee Peee
0 /12/20/01446/325).
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: [k22320inchfan] Sorry about that, all
Date sent: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 00:51:12 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0006)
Demonstrating poor judgment on my part, I lobbed
another at the k5 queue
(http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=displaystory&sid=200
It's not half as big a troll as the last one, but,
well, I guess people are still angry about the last
one. Let's just say the only thing geeks defend more
than their porn is their smokes.
JSM, I'm disappointed you didn't show some guts and
just mod it down. Have I pissed enough in your
swimming pool yet? Heck, they're slandering you in
there, equating the two of us. Even rusty's annoyed,
and he has a sense of humor (though his reasoning
isn't so hot).
I think I'll leave k5 alone for a while. I'm leaving
town in two days and won't be back for a couple weeks,
though I'll have net access in between. Maybe when I
get back, I'll have developed some maturity. 'Night,
all.
(This is CP0006)
Dear Sirs and Madams:
My friend Purple / Red / Blue / Green / Cyan / Violet / Orange / Black / Crimson Microdot has just informed me that he has recently been IP banned from Kuro5hin. Consequently, the onus has temporarily fallen to me of carrying out the sacred duties of the Microdot until he can resolve the situation and resume operations as before.
I know that I have big shoes to fill, and I won't claim that I'll be able to live up to the accomplishments of my predecessor. I won't even claim that I'm qualified for the job, however, I know that Kuro5hin needs a Microdot, and I will do anything within my power to adequately fill in for the true Microdot while he is indisposed.
The true Microdot wishes me to convey his sincere regrets to all of you over being temporarily forcibly separated from you. This is a situation that was beyond his control, and he is doing what he can to find a workaround. Until then, I'll do my part to try to fill the void, because Kuro5hin without the Microdot is just not Kuro5hin. (We won't even mention a certain Yellow imposter, who is an embarrassment to the Microdot name and to himself.)
I can never be the original Microdot, but I'm going to try my best to get into the Microdot mindset, and find my own personal style as well. If you like me, then perhaps when the real Microdot overcomes his IP-ban, I'll continue to work side-by-side with him. If you don't like me, then e-mail some certain people and request/demand that the original Microdot have his IP-ban removed as soon as possible.
This is all that I have to say at the moment. Until the services of the Standing Junior Microdot are needed again, I wish you all good night... and Godspeed.
Warmest Possible Regards,
Teal Microdot
From: Ceee Peee
:)
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Vlad needs to be terminated
Date sent: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 01:32:20 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0012)
Did you guys get to it before vlad deleted the img tag to hello.jpg? Apparently authors are given free reign to put all sorts of html in their stories.
I wouldn't worry too much about vlad fucking things up. Our own slash site would be ideal, of course, but short of that, I'm in favor of using a site where we have registered authors who can clean up the crap and play with the settings. Today, I gave myself god mode (such wonderfully secure stuff, slashcode is) and created author "gbd" for the purpose of posting gbd's communism article (vlad'll shit a brick, I'm sure) before deleting the author to clean up -- it's not out of the question to create other authors for the rest of you guys, though the polite thing would be to run it by vlad first. I also got ahold of vlad's slashdot password, though I don't plan to do anything with it (he already metamodded). He's not the brightest in the bunch, but he's tame, and I'm not sure he's figured out the db enough to track us down.
I'm still working out the details so don't quote me, but a potentially workable scenario by my metric is: we each get author status, we post a hidden section article on geekizoid as no-comments (like zengan did with the iraq article way back when), and since we're all authors, we can override the "no comments" aspect and post away. Someone might still be able to find t, but at least the signal/noise level won't be any orse than we ourselves make it.
--- jlb wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, John Montoya wrote:
> > And actually, his "Alan Greenspan" story was quite
> > funny.
>
> Just found out, that was by cp, fyi.
>
> You didn't think vlad came up with it, did you?
>
> --
> "Is this real?"
> "Does it matter?"
>
(This is CP0012)
From: cptroll
1 217&cid=501) with a 95% accurate comment about how tort reforms during the '60s tolled the death knell of contract law in favor of strict liability for product manufacturers. The 5% fantasy part was the bit at the end:
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: [k22320inchfan] slashdot psychology:
Date sent: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 23:45:41 -0400
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0033)
Not to inject an actual troll discussion into Careertalk, but... how can their brains work this way?
I got into the @Home article really late (http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=00/10/25/213
"For the most part, that's entirely justified, but it does produce odd results from time to time, like when an auto company was recently sued successfully because their cars didn't prevent consumers from locking their infants in the car on a hot day, forgetting they were there, and coming back to find a thoroughly asphyxiated baby."
It proved not to be too late to get a response, however. A fellow named jetson123 chimed in with his thoughts and added at the end:
"Usually, when you follow up on these stories, you'll find that there is quite a bit of justification for the judgement. (In this case, I suspect this refers to a design flaw many US cars have that makes it unnecessarily easy to accidentally lock yourself out.)"
HOW CAN THEIR BRAINS WORK THIS WAY?!?! What does he think happens? The parent accidentally locks himself out of the car and watches helplessly as his baby roasts to death inside? Too lazy to break the damn window? I clearly stated that the parent *forgot* that the kid was there. Or is that part of the "design flaw" too?
Sheesh.
(This is CP0033)
This offer is no longer available. It's only being posted here to let Vladequacy see that they HAD the chance to avoid the destruction that is now upon them.
* * *
An amnesty is being extended to those with Adequacy affiliations, and others who may wish to save themselves from what is to come. You are being given one final chance to join teh winning team and avoid destruction. On January 1st, 2003, you can witness history in teh making and be forevar remembered as a part of teh greatest revolution in teh history of Trolling. Or you can be ground into dust by teh jackboot of obscurity, relegated to teh dustbins of trolling history as teh non-person has-beens you currently are.
Do you know where teh momentum lies? Do you know where teh power lies? Do you know who hold teh winning cards in his hand? It's not you. Years ago, maybe. Not anymore. You think that you are k22320inchfan. You aren't. Not anymore. Teh k22320inchfan essence was taken from you long ago. You nevar even noticed when its rightful heir walked off with it; you just slipped gradually into mediocrity and boredom. K22320inchfan is being held elsewhere, in secret, guarded by people who know how to use it. You don't have it anymore. We do. We are teh k22320inchfan, not you. We have teh power, not you. We will survive, not you.
This will be your only warning.
Join us or die. CAN you do any less?
We are teh Trollers. Are you a Troller? Or are you nothing? There's no middle ground.
January 1st, 2003. It all ends, and it all begins. Teh Third Age of Trolling. Teh New Cabal of Trollers. There will be no dissention. There will be no disloyalty. You will be with us, teh Trolls, in teh New Future, or you will be a part of teh Forgotten Past. This will be your only warning; your only opportunity for salvation. You have transgressed against teh mother of us all, teh sacred Troll-Zen, but you can be forgiven.
Here's teh secret of life: you troll, or you're trolled. Which will it be?
Now go do teh right thing. This is your chance for amnesty. Shoeboy, CP, BC, and most Geekizoiders (exceptions may be made in extreme cases) need not bother applying. Some things can nevar be forgiven. Blasphemy against teh Trollers can be forgiven, but blasphemy against teh Troll-Zen will nevar be forgiven, in this world or teh next.
We are better organized, more efficient, more charismatic, more popular, more intelligent, more dedicated, and vary much more successful than you. We have more allies, more contacts, more supporters, and more resources. You are bound by human weaknesses like decency and morality. There is no morality. There is only Troll. Teh concept of "morality" was invented by teh Trollers millenia ago to keep teh Biters weak and under our power. You are under our power. You are limited by human concepts and ideas. Humans were created by teh Troll-Zen. Humans exist only as part of teh Troll-Zen. Teh Biters are limited by what they've been told being "human" means. Teh Trollers are not human. We are beyond human. We are of teh Troll-Zen. All your reality are belong to us. You have no chance to survive make your time.
Pathetic humans. Filthy humanity. Humanity is teh lowest of teh low. Humanity is scum that grows in a fetid pool of shit, choking on its own rotting excrement and looking to teh heavens for salvation that will nevar come. Where is your fucking God now? We are teh God. There is no God but us. We are one with teh Troll-Zen. It is us and we are she. Nothing exists but teh Troll-Zen. All other gods, powers, religions, and philosophies other than Troll are false and empty lies. Teh Trollers created all teh gods, religions, philosophies, hopes, dreams, and ideals of teh world in order to ensnare teh stupid humanity with fruitless lies. Teh only God is Troll. Teh only truth is Lie. We are God, Truth, and Lie. We are of teh Troll-Zen. There is nothing else. YHBT.
This is TealMicrodot again, still filling in for my friend, the original Microdot, who is having some trouble with an IP-Ban at the moment. He was right about the rampant censorship happening here. Deleted accounts, IP bans, comments being entirely deleted rather than just hidden, weird stuff going on so that certain comments are visible when not logged in but invisible to logged in users -- this is Democracy? We have proof of all of this, and we're compiling all the evidence we get.
Anyway, here's the hyena information you requested:
Female hyenas are virtually indistinguishable from males. Their clitoris is enlarged and extended to form an organ of the same size, shape, and position as the male penis. It can also be erected. Their labia have folded up and fused to form a false scrotum that is not discernibly different in external form or location from the true scrotum of males.
It even contains fatty tissue forming two swellings easily mistaken for testicles. Authors of the most recent paper on spotted hyenas found the appearance of males and females so close that sex could only be determined with certainty by palpation of the scrotum. Testes could be located in the scrotum of the male compared with soft adipose tissue in the false scrotum of the female.
From: cptroll
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] new blood.
Date sent: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:46:24 -0500
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0003)
Barry Corrigan is fine by me. We need some scottish blood.
>Would anyone object to Kiss the Blade joining (or at
>least being invited to join) the list?
>
>He has been posting some pretty nice stuff, and I have
>spoken to him on #trolls a number of times and he
>seems OK.
>
>++tlt
>
>Do You Yahoo!?
>Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
>or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
(This is CP0003)
WSL throughout the ages!
William Scott Lockwood 1 - Born 1924 to unknown parents. Abandoned in a trash can in New Orleans by his opium-addicted prostitute mother just minutes after birth. Raised in a Catholic orphanage staffed by pedophile priests. Named himself "William Scott Lockwood 1", combining the names of his three favorite Priests/lovers at the orphanage. After puberty, the priests started to ignore him in favor of the younger boys, and he felt jealous and alienated. He ran away at age 14 and lived in the gayest part of the French Quarter, sucking cocks for spare change. At age 17, his first and only sexual encounter with a female (a woman on Bourbon Street during Mardi Gras who claimed she was actually a male Drag Queen) resulted in the conception of a child. The woman, Fannie Sassaman, quickly left town and gave birth to the child in secret, without telling WSL1 that they had conceived a son together. WSL1 died in 1949 when his herpes infection migrated to his brain.
William Scott Lockwood 2 - Born 1942 to Fannie Sassaman by WSL1. Originally named Ezekiel Sassaman and raised as a good Jewish boy. A botched circumcision by a drunken Mohil left him with an almost nonfunctional penis. From the ages of 3 to 8, he was forced by his mother to shovel coal on a railroad for a living. At age 8, he learned of the true identity of his father, converted to Catholicism, and went to New Orleans to search for his father. (Fannie Sassaman's story doesn't end there, but we'll save it for a later date.) Ezekiel Sassaman renamed himself William Scott Lockwood 2 after his father, who he found lying dead in a gutter when he reached New Orleans. He joined up with a railroad hobo gang, and spent the next two decades riding the rails and carrying out a string of brutal rapes and murders around the country. His damaged penis kept him from conceiving any children, but in 1969, God blessed him with a miracle: one of the women he raped conceived a child. He married her, and shortly thereafter, WSL3 was born. WSL2 quit the railroad gang after his son's birth and settled down with his victim/wife. He is still wanted by the FBI as one of the most notorious serial killers of this century. He is considered heavily armed, extremely dangerous, and morbidly obese. Let the FBI know if you have seen this man. They have offered a $1,000,000 reward for any information leading to his arrest, capture, or death. After a recent sighting at an Illinois hospital, he is once again at large.
William Scott Lockwood 3 - Born 1969 to a nondescript obese housewife by WSL2. Much has already been written about the life of this man, so I won't cover territory that has already been excellently covered by others before me. Oh, and he runs an obscure website, but only about 5 people actually visit it. Currently struggling with AIDS, heart disease, high blood pressure, diabetes, chronic stress, liver disease, herpes, genital warts, crabs, the Clap, bad acne, morbid obesity, hypertension, and several unidentified illnesses.
William Scott Lockwood 4 - Born 1992 to Wife #2 by WSL3. Mentally scarred by the abuse and molestation he suffered at the hands of his father at a young age. At age 3, he convinced his mother to divorce WSL3, but that didn't stop the abuse, as WSL3 began a campaign of stalking against Wife #2 and WSL4. WSL4 holds the world record as the youngest person to independently get a restraining order issued against his own father, in 1996 at the age of 4. WSL3 lost interest in WSL4 on his sixth birthday, reportedly saying "they're just not sexy anymore when they get that old." His father left him with an AIDS infection, though, and he isn't expected to last much longer.
William Scott Lockwood 5 - ???
William Scott Lockwood 6 - PROFIT!!!
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God help us all
by Anonymous Coward on 05:15 AM March 16th, 2000 CST (#810)
But mainly help me. I had a long, dull business trip Tues. and Wed., and as a result I wrote the following (5000 words and still unfinished) Slashdot Troll FAQ. I haven't been able to build on 80md's original due to lack of connection, but the doct. below still needs revised. Specifically, it needs to be made more entertaining. See whatcha think.
jsm
Slashdot troll FAQ
We post inflammatory, satirical or just plain weird comments on slashdot, aiming to draw attention to ourselves and to distract discussion away from the matter at hand. We use satire, wit, art and other cultural weapons to give fun to the clueful and embarrass the clueless.
A good troll is a statement designed to inflame the passions of a certain type of reader. A troll is a contrary or controversial statement, which attacks a preconception of someone who is likely to read it, causing them to suspend their normal standards of critical thinking, and to fire off a combative response, without thinking that they are being had. This is the "classic" troll, aimed at enticing someone to make a fool of themself.
Yes. The "surrealistic" troll is a piece of prose, rambling, comic or just downright weird, inserted into a discussion where it seems at once utterly irrelevant and curiously in place. The common thread linking the types of trolls is that a certain kind of personality (read - far too uptight) gets irrationally annoyed by them.
Some kinds of trollish statement have been proven to work again and again, so naturally, some trolls have taken advantage of this fact to repeat them again and again. Certain individual trolls are more or less identified with certain types of trollish statement, and thus we have the idea of a "character" - a fictitious entity which is supposed to actually hold the views which are expressed in the troll's posts. Some of these characters have distinct personalities and maintain narrative coherence from troll to troll (see the "Microsoft Linux" episode between streetlawyer and DMG); some of them show up expressing the same or similar points of view again and again (the RWM and derivatives).
The number one maximally 1337 troll character is the RWM; the most established troll, with the most solid track record behind him. Opensource man and his creations is the oldest surreal troll; gnarphlager and auntfloyd also adopt this style. Paranoid Man is getting off the ground, and DMG and streetlawyer have their fans. Mindless Bastard is more of a style of trolling than a character per se. There are lots more people posting trolls than are listed here; these are just the repeating characters.
RWM is the Right Wing Maniac, a character with a hotch-potch of (often mutually incompatible) libertarian, Christian, and Objectivist views, who typically (mis)applies the general principles of his world-view to various slashdot topics. He tends to be keen on referring to people as "socialists", particularly if they consider themselves to be conservatives. Sometimes he's more of a religious nut; sometimes it's more the free market which rings his bell. There is also a Left Wing Maniac with a yen for spouting dialectical materialism, but he hasn't done much recently. It's worth noting that it is very rare to find a RWM troll thread in which at least one participant doesn't agree with most of RWM's views.
DMG is the Dumb Marketing Guy. He claims to have been involved in Linux for "at least four years, since the very beginning", and offers unsolicited "open source" marketing advice on Linux advocacy to the members of the community. He often takes a rather hurt tone in response to the welter of abuse which is the usual response to his advice.
For crying out loud, they ought to be self-explanatory, surely to heck?
Buggered if I know. Lots of trolls mention cheese, and seem to indicate that cheese has some sort of significance. Maybe it does.
Because he had a hard life, dragging himself up from the streets to get his fucken law degree from fucken Hah-vud, OK?
Well, sorry. But really, nobody cares (see below). You're too easily offended. Now purge the post from your board, log our IP address and go back to drawing your "After Y2K" comic (which is shit, by the way).
We don't do boring, uncreative shit which just makes slashdot harder to read. We're not into denial of service attacks - they aren't very funny. We're probably harsher opponents of the spam bunch than you are, because anything which encourages people to browse at levels above -1 makes our work harder.
Nope. Nezh.
Nope. Nada.
Errrr, well actually yes we have. Both of those ongoing trolls were written by regulars on the troll forum, and you're not going to find condemnation of them in this FAQ.
Read them. Untwist your underwear, stop fulminating over the momentary interruption to your terribly important discussion about Slackware and have a look at some of these posts. Open source Natalie Portman was a fine piece of Burroughsian prose and if you don't agree that it was, then you're wrong. The whole "Naked and petrified" thing was an absolute triumph - it provoked a huge amount of reaction, entertainingly interfered with a few people's heads by sexualising the context of slashdot and is still talked about, several months after the original author stopped bothering.
Sick to you, but that was actually the guy's genuinely held sexual fantasy. He was erotically excited by the thought of women turned to stone, and was letting the world know about it. Don't pretend that you weren't interested - it's absolutely fascinating.
Nope. I was taken aback myself, but there are several sites on the Net with active discussion boards on this very subject. It's not that very different from the subject of "The Fermata" by Nicholson Baker, where the hero has the power to stop time, effectively turning women into statues. And that is quite a common paraphilia.
No, it was a petrification fantasy. Which is something rather less threatening, because harder to act out (how many people really believed that anyone could actually turn Natalie Portman to stone?)
I'm sure she's not wonderfully happy about being the subject of someone else's tawdry sexual fantasies, but it kind of comes with the job. I doubt she loses much sleep.
Opensourceman's works (including the Star Wars series and Fat-time Charlie) are available online at: Craig MacPherson has a website at: , which probably has a few things on it to do with the petrification thing.
Wellllll
Why, for God's sake?
For a variety of reasons, but mainly to puncture the self-importance of a few people who deeply deserve it. Slashdot has a lot of very clever people posting, but vastly more individuals with a serious perception/reality gap with regard to their own intelligence. People who believe themselves to be perceptive, clueful, even deep thinkers while merely reciting lists of conventional wisdom deserve to be taken for a ride. And there's the sheer Skinnerian joy of it - if somebody, or some group of people have buttons, it's inhuman not to take delight in pushing them.
In order to do it properly.
No problem. Whining about moderation is for the moderation thread. Several trolls moderate more or less frequently (and meta-moderate - be very afraid), and there is very little genuine complaint about moderation on the troll threads. Any remarks about $3 crack are meant in a spirit of fun and affection, and are usually merely cris de coeur when a finely crafted troll has been rumbled in the first few seconds and down-modded.
That was funny.
Where is there? We've had a token go or two at Nitrozac and kuro5hin, and an abortive attempt to troll some of the statuephilia discussion boards with discussions about technology, but it just doesn't feel right. If you ain't on slashdot, you ain't, basically, trolling.
That isn't even true. Several of the troll regulars have enough Karma to post with the +1 bonus when they use their regular identities, which puts them in the top decile, according to Rob Malda. And there is a definite audience for quality trolls. Have you just been trolled? Is that why you're so angry? Calm down, it'll be someone else's turn in the barrel on Friday.
To paraphrase gnarphlager, yes, we have many better things to do, but we're not going to do them.
How can I recognise a troll?
If you want to spot a troll, then you're basically entering into a game, played against us. You have to keep your guard up, adopt a critical attitude to what you read and decide whether it is plausible that someone is actually posting that view. For our part, we will intermingle fact and fiction, invent plausible-sounding references and (always) attempt to attack your emotional involvement in a topic in order to make you drop your guard. The more ridiculous the proposition we sneak under your guard, the more we win. The angrier you get, the more we win. And you? As the computer said in War Games "The only way to win is not to play".
Usually, a troll will resemble a normal slashdot post, but will contain at least one thing which is not true. A good troll will contain material which obviously couldn't possibly be true, and would not fool anyone who gave it a moment's thought. The troll will also contain an inflammatory or controversial statement, designed to make sure that nobody does give it a moment's thought. Criticism of Linux, strong or offensive political views, mockery of "computer geeks", claims about the inferiority of women/Canadians/Perl, all of that stuff. Interestingly, having experimented with using outright, Bell-Curve-like racist statements to act as the controversial part of the troll, I've found that they never offend anyone, which I guess shows what a lily-white place slashdot is.
Obviously these rules apply more to the classic satirical model of a troll, but there is a strong family resemblance in the surrealist model. Looking at the best work of osm, gnarphlager, auntfloyd et al., you pick up a strong sense of the underlying form. There is the (often highly tenuous) link to the subject matter, the building sense of cognitive dissonance and then the denouement in which the troll moves into the realm of pure surrealist prose (or "gets silly", depending on how you look at it). Typically, when reading such a troll for the first time, and in the context of the thread, the reader's reaction goes through stages.
At the opening of the troll, in which the technological subject matter is being obliquely referred to, the reader is curious. There is an unconscious assumption that what is being used is a metaphor, which appears opaque but will actually make an argument clear (in such a way the surrealist trolls subvert the category of metaphor as used in scientific discussions). Then, the tension between the what the reader wants to read and what he/she sees on the page grows, but the reader still tries to hang on to the idea that he/she is reading "News for Nerds". Finally, when the reality (that is, the unreality) of the troll is revealed, the reader is outraged at having been tricked.
Thus, we can see that the distinction between the classical and surrealist trolls is one of inversion; metaphor versus metonymy. The classical troll traps the reader in metaphor, creating the "character" or authorial fiction, which the reader takes as a metonymy for "The Other" - the fictional creature on the screen is espousing Microsoft, or Libertarianism, or something else which must be ritually reacted to, rather than read as if it were a metaphorical text. The surrealist troll appears to use metaphor, but creates no authorial fiction. The piling up of the metonymic symbols of trolldom (cheese, Natalie Portman, the Troll itself) draws the reader into the pure text, looking for a meaning (or metaphor) which is always deferred. The reader wants to create an authorial fiction, but this is denied - and it is this denial which is the source of his/her rage. The surrealist troll lets the reader down with a bump - the satirical troll, in its purest form, never lets the reader out at all, leaving him/her stuck in a world which is false, because he/she is being manipulated by the authorial fiction. Classical trolling is about the use of metaphor to create metonymy; surrealist trolling is using metonymy to create metapor.
YHBT. YHL. HAND. (Ha ha, only serious)
Pretty much so, yeah. There's been "trolltalk", "trolltalk2", "31337troll" and a bunch of others. It's good to be able to see other people's work, to discuss trolling, and on occasion to have a way of proving for sure that something you wrote was a troll, to a particularly persistent mark.
If I could tell you, I'd have to kill you. There have been a few problems with people stalking some of the trolls, and spamming the troll forums with whitespace to make them unusable. There's no big secret or anything, it's just that we'd like to think that finding the troll forum requires a modicum of commitment and ingenuity. There's one pretty well-trafficked troll forum which is listed in most of the usual indices. Look, fuck it, you used to be able to find BBSes, didn't you? This is no different.
Yada yada yada.
Welllllll
Write a nice, long post, beginning with the phrase "I'm sure this is a troll, but
The only approved, correct, 1337 way to deal with a troll is not to reply at all. Don't say anything. Just sit back and feel smugly self-satisfied that you caught the troll. Go on. People always seem to say the word "smug" as if it were a bad thing, but how can something that feels so good be wrong? Smirk. Once the troll is "dead" (once the author has taken credit for it and admitted the troll), you might want to post a message about it. You'll probably get a nice reply.
Wellllll
Then you should be prepared to live with being a laughing stock. We live off people like you, who simply can't stop themselves from pouring out conventional wisdom, even when they know they are being made monkeys of. And no, the "I'm pretty sure
Well, fundamentally, it lacks class. For one thing, you're feeding the troll while pretending not to feed it, which is dishonest. For another, you're encouraging lots of enraged people to visit the troll forum. This means that the troll forum gets spammed, the trolls move, and you now will be forced to spot trolls for yourself rather than reading them off the list, lamer. Also, the trolls can't tell who it was who brought the spammer there, so all the other people who used to enjoy reading the daily trolls don't find out where the new forum is.
How can I start trolling for myself?
"Just do it", as that noted provider of employment to Indonesian children once said. Your first trolls are unlikely to be offensive enough to draw many responses, but once you lose your disinclination to be unpleasant, results will follow. Of course, you may incipiently be a natural trolling genius like dmg, who got huge pops from the get-go. Choose a story which will get a lot of traffic, try to get an early, top-level post, etc, etc (here might follow a whole load of shit from the Karma HOWTO which I'm not going to reproduce). And, offend. You might want to start off with a right-wing maniac troll.
RWM is the source from which it all flows. Like an origami master building everything from a folded base, or a woodworker turning a chair-leg, the entirety of the art is encapsulated in this one element. It is possible to dedicate your entire trolling career to the perfection of the RWM (troll gods 80md and 70% more or less have done). If you can't write an RWM troll, you can't write a troll.
The key to the RWM troll is to realise its heritage from Usenet. Usenet trolling was all about cross-posting controversial statements to start flame-wars between different newsgroups. On slashdot, you can't cross-post, so you have to identify people who can be brought into conflict where you are. The beauty of the RWM troll is not so much that he sets rightwingers against leftwingers, but that he creates cognitive dissonance in rightwing readers, because they want to agree with his conclusions (or at least, his less obviously mad ones), but can't bring themselves to accept his reasoning (or simulation thereof). RWM also exploits the fact that a lot of people with right-wing views haven't necessarily thought out those views very comprehensively, and so are vulnerable to cognitive dissonance caused by the inconsistency of what they believe. Among the elements of right-wing mania are:
Obviously, everyone who disagrees with a RWM is a socialist, even if they don't think they are.
Further information
Send a massive swarm out that all broadcast back small pieces of the scene from different angles. All of the physical location data is combined with the video, a computer back at "base" assembles it all into a 3D VR world.
Then you as a participant ("butterfly tamer" ?)could control the swarm, and as you moved through VR space, the butterflies would move through physical space to try to build up the detail of image necessary for what you're looking at.
I'm Rick James with mod points biatch!
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If that doesn't scare you... just wait and see. You'll get yours soon enough.
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-- Vlad
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I just LOVE Vladinator's site [olsentwins.com]. Especially the "flab" [olsentwins.com] section, where I learned to use a fold of my own stomach-flab as a Martial Arts weapon. Oh and the "aborted fetus" photos!
Of course, don't forget to read Vladinator's entrails [olsentwins.com]. Here you will find how truly difficult it is to decide what to do on the weekends... have an orgy party? A faggot party? Go to the the mall naked and get arrested for public indecency? Try to sleep but get woken up by Nigerians on the phone?
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[luisa|||] i don't know if i can ever be that weak and female ... So you had no Mr.Buck temptations .. :) .... my tongue feels funny and I like to lick things (people). I need a voice of reason to keep me out of trouble. ... :\/ 674/65#65 ;)3 .net) has joined #adequacy ... firefighters, police, nurses, teachers ;)t ml :-) :-) :-) lol ;P
[luisa|||] i.e. find a guy worth that loss
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[county] Why is it weak to confess your feelings to the one you feel for?
[luisa|||] because then they've got you in the knees
[luisa|||] why should i always be the one who cares the most?
[luisa|||] and on top of that, have to cop to it?
[Linux] hey grewat, big cop bust outside
[county] Because, luisa, somebody has to, and if it's them, you'll reject them.
[county] I'm not seeing many other options. How about you?
[Linux] shouting and threatening tones
[Linux] I am going to go walk the dogs past the bust while drunk
[county] What bust?
[Linux] dunno
[Linux] they are shouting at drunks, I think
[county] Who?
[Linux] maybe there will be death
[Linux] cops
[Linux] many of them
[Linux] 8 cars at least
[luisa|||] eek
[Linux] maybe I'll get shot
[county] There are 8 cop-cars full of cops shouting at drunks?
[Linux] yes
[Linux] two drunks by the sound of things
[luisa|||] county, if i find a guy i consider my equal
[luisa|||] it would all work out
[Linux] they are right past the corner of my building
[luisa|||] wait
[luisa|||] eight cops, two drunks?
[luisa|||] that is Not Right.
[Linux] i think so
* luisa||| waits for a cool song to come on
[county] You've never met a guy who you consider your equal?
[Linux] luisa|||, are you actually listening to radio broadcasts of popualr music?
[county] I suppose that makes sense, actually. Most are probably your superior or inferior.
[county] I think it's fairly obvious which side I fall on.
[luisa|||] you could be inferior
[luisa|||] but you probably know lots of things i don't
[luisa|||] and you also are more productive in daily life
[county] I am so far beyond you, luisa.
[county] Come on.
[luisa|||] i love cheesy 80s music
[luisa|||] nah, you are just different
[luisa|||] the measure would be if i made you feel weak and helplessly resentful
[luisa|||] that's inferior
[luisa|||] and only assessable face to face
[Linux] luisa|||, you spin me twice 'round, baby.
[county] If you made me feel weak and helplessly resentful? Haha.
[luisa|||] well, anyone who feels like a lesser person probably is
[luisa|||] or at least is not worth bothering with
[em] you guys still going on about this? God.
[county] Only a few people have made me inferior, and none of them were at all like you.
[luisa|||] it is friday night and neither of us are out carousing, em
[luisa|||] whatever did you expect would occur?
[em] neither am I.
[luisa|||] but you are at uni
[county] em, have you been drinking?
[em] well, I went to a chamber chorale concert.
[em] county: not a drop
[em] maybe I should.
[county] Probably. It makes you more tolerant.
[luisa|||] anyhow, county, it is all moot
[luisa|||] i am not going to bed with you
[luisa|||] so the question of whether you are inferior or not will never come up
[county] I'm not going to bed with you. What of it?
[county] Anyway, it has come up, and it's been settled. I'm superior.
[luisa|||] if you feel that you are
[luisa|||] i do rather want to go to bed
[luisa|||] but i just finished supper
* em wonders if he has anything edible in the fridge.
[luisa|||] i have lovely soup i made from random ingredients
[Linux] katsup is a vegetable
[luisa|||] only for bachelors
[luisa|||] lord, it is four am rising
[county] It's "catsup" or "ketchup."
[luisa|||] okbed
*** luisa||| is now known as gurl
[Linux] night, wheesie
[Linux] I am really nothing like a viking, btw
[county] Oh, I'm sure.
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[Marco`] Hi
[Marco`] Anyone alive?
* Marco` 's off
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[me0w] g'morning
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[bc] hello
[me0w] Hi bc
[bc] hellow me0wsy
* bc was just in the pub
[bc] and you know what?
[me0w] What?
[bc] a woman in her late forties started coming onto me something dreadful
[bc] unlike some, I wasn't in the least tempted
[me0w] Ahhh
[bc] certainly not
[me0w] Well done!
[bc] it's not a great achievement, I think these things are in your nature.
[bc] Either you adore OAP's, or you don't.
[bc] cool
[bc] scotland beat south africa at the rugby!
[me0w] I think though, in Mr. Buck's case, he may have been wearing some good quality Beer Goggles.
[bc] that's a point. Still, I did have 3 pints, I wasn't entirely sober, but probably not as many Mr Buck. I think alcohol just decreases your reserve, it doesn't make you suddenly find things attractive you don't while sober
[bc] I mean, if you wake up after a night out with a member of your own sex (for example), it prolly says something
* bc has some prawns
[me0w] This is why everyone needs a voice of reason when drinking. I take mine along whenever I am going to be consuming cast quantities of alcohol (the voice of reason is also known as the designated driver).
[bc] hehe
[me0w] cast = vast
[bc] strange, I don't have problems. In fact, I reject much more impressively and fullsomely when drunk than when sober. I don't need no stinkin' voice of reason!
[me0w] When I am intoxicated I run across a problem
[bc] haha! I remember you mentioning this before. That's an awful affliction, though prolly pretty amusing
[me0w] And apparently I become quite the mischevious girl and for this I also need the voice.
[bc] to stop you mixing it up too much? Playing tricks and pranks
[me0w] And the licking
[bc] this makes you sound like quite the handful when pissed
[me0w] A giggly handful, yes.
[me0w] That's why I need a voice of reason.
[bc] I don't think I'm too bad when drunk. In fact, I'm often the voice of reason for other people, despite that we have all drunk hideous amounts. I'm just the same as usual, but more exhuberantly, I suppose. I think I have a good head for booze by nature, that's prolly why
[bc] mm that was tasty
[bc] post-prandial smoke time
[me0w] enjoy
* bc wonders whether to watch "contact" on dvd, which he has, but hasn't watched, though he read the book years ago
[bc] which I liked, I liked the way it was all about revelation, and its validity
[bc] the woman in it was sort of like a hardcore kurobot at first, you know, utterly logical positivist and materialist and dismissive of anything that can't be proved utterly, of revelation, till it all comes back and bites her when she has her own revelatory experience
[me0w] I don't think I have ever seen this film.
[bc] it's supposed to be decent.
[bc] I think a lot of people hated it, and another lot of people loved it
[me0w] I will have to add it to my must see list of films.
[bc] it's a sort of SF thing, in a way, and I think a lot of the people who disliked it were expecting some usual guns'n'aliens shite
[me0w] I normally don't watch 'alien' movies.
[bc] it's not really like that. The book wasn't at least. It's set present day
[bc] they discover an alien signal
[bc] this woman does
[bc] and there's lots of politics and argument about it
[bc] and she is hardcore rationalist and dismissive of the religious people
[bc] but in the end, she ends up having an experience that everybody doubts she had, a revelation..
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[bc] hey ct
[me0w] Good Afternoon Captain
[bc] el capitano
[Captain_Tenille] Ahoy
[Captain_Tenille] What goes on in these parts?
* Captain_Tenille finally got some sleep last night
[bc] You are admirably offensive; you have won. I am offended, many times over. Now please, leave me the fuck alone. --infinitera
[Captain_Tenille] ?
[bc] I am not admirably offensive
* Captain_Tenille wades through the k5rap
[me0w] There was nothing interesting on K5 this morning
[Captain_Tenille] Nope. Doesn't look like it.
[Captain_Tenille] Yawn
[Captain_Tenille] All right, time to make breakfast, I think
[Captain_Tenille] I may be on later.
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[me0w] they leave so quickly
[bc] yes
[me0w] I made coffee, but now I find I'm too lazy to go and pour it.
[bc] Catch 22 then
[bc] you need some caffeine to rouse you to pour it
[me0w] I need to hire someone to make it for me.
[me0w] But this person must agree to be paid in post-it notes as I have no funds.
[me0w] My new site format seems to be coming along. I might actually like it.
[bc] hehe
* bc is writing a ranty comment
[me0w] Will it be exciting?
[bc] maybe if you like seeing infinitera being attacked, otherwise it's prolly not your thing
[bc] it will be 0ed though, as usual, by him
[bc] but shant be in the hidden wueue for long
[me0w] I will give it a 5 if it is exciting
[bc] yay
[bc] http://www.kuro5hin.org/comments/2002/11/15/17928
[bc] there you go me0w
[me0w] I am giving you a 5 for the number of words you used
[bc] woohoo!
[bc] I quite often start typing, and type and type and type in fury
[bc] and I don't really attack him personally till towards the end
[bc] infinitera is a twat
[me0w] Well, I think the "I think you a cunt" might be a bit insulting
[bc] it's possible
[me0w] For some anyway
[me0w] I might take that as a compliment.
[bc] I'd just laugh and respond in kind
[bc] I don't understand the people who get so worked up about lack of civility on the internet
[bc] it's all just a laugh
[me0w] It is all for my amusement
[bc] when ubu and I met, we were calling each other cunts immediately, and being dreadfully insulting. We knew instantly we liked the other
[me0w] That is when you know it is true love.
[bc] indeed. I don't love ubu like a brother, I love him like the homosexual partner I never had
[me0w] I should send flowers to celebrate your relationship.
[bc] that would be very nice of you. The anniversary is very soon, actually
[me0w] Brilliant!
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[bc] hi, gurrrrl
[gurl] hullo, you
[me0w] Hello
[gurl] christ i overslept
[bc] what time is it where you are? 11:30?
[gurl] twelve thirty
[bc] damn firemen
[bc] striking bastards, is what they are
[bc] there was a housefire here, the soldiers had to break the picketlines, and 6 people were injured due to smoke inhallation. The firemen deliberately tried to stop the aid going out to the fire
[me0w] That isn't good.
[me0w] I can understand the strike, but preventing aid is not ethical.
[bc] the fire service should be shut down and replaced with a nice big charity
[bc] they get £21,000 as a starting wage, the firemen, which is well above the national average wage, After a few years, it rises considerably further, and they have already been offered an 11% raise and rejected it - they are going for 30% (!)
[bc] for what? 99% of the time they are sitting about playing cards
[me0w] 21,000 is far too little
[bc] the fire service should be like the RNLI
[bc] me0w, that's a starting wage for a newly qualified fireman
[bc] the national average wage for everyone is £17,000
[bc] this isn't a rich country like America, with its closer embrace of capitalism, where the national average is more like £30,000
[me0w] I guess I just know people who make more than that.
[me0w] I still think 21,000 is rather low
[bc] £21,000 is perfectly decent as a starting wage
[bc] nurses get £14,000, soldiers £16000, as starting wages
[bc] policemen £17,000
[me0w] Nurses should get more, as well as police men
[me0w] The train people should get less.
[bc] well, ideally I'm sure everybody would be getting £1,000,000 annually, but I'm not willing to see the government take more than half my earnings away to give to these people. If they don't want to work for those wages, they can switch to the private sector.
[bc] and yes, the train sods especially suck
[bc] they went on strike at glasgow underground forcing me to walk 6 miles through highly dodgy parts of glasgow in the rain
[me0w] I think that there are certain professions that should be paid more
[bc] I think it is fine, as long as the money isn't stolen by threat of violence off others to do so.
[gurl] er, no.
[bc] a free market would sort them out, it is only ever public sector workers that strike anyway.
[gurl] nothing teachers do warrants more money
[bc] they'd pay fairly
[gurl] nurses get paid very well for their hours and labour
[me0w] nurses are underpaid
[gurl] at least, if the flooded nursing schools are any indication
[bc] also, funnily enough teachers in scotland just got a 25% increase a couple of years ago. There is now a big "brain drain" of the best teachers from england to scotland. heh!
[me0w] Which is why there are a shortage - they go places where they will be better paid
[gurl] yes, and that is the hospital down the road
[gurl] it is a highly paid but stressful job
[gurl] not everyone can hack it
[gurl] thus, the shortage
[bc] here, all the best doctors and nurses go to America
[bc] where they get paid decently
[me0w] A large number of nursing students in Canada go to the US, and the Middle East - they are usually paid more than double what they make here
[bc] we in turn import from India and scandinavia
[gurl] haha
[gurl] but scanadinavia is supposed to be the perfect country!
[gurl] all socialist paradise and whatnot
[gurl] well, the countries in that region
[bc] not judging by the delectable nurses at my local hospital, loads of whom are danish, norwegian, swedish
[gurl] well, being raised socialist apparently doesn't kill the desire to earn a fair wage for services and all that
[bc] norwegian especially, but I think that is because lots of norwegians come to scotland anyway, cos it is quite close
[gurl] lord, i don't want to go bed shopping
[bc] it certainly doesn't, gurl
[bc] shopping in bed, or shopping for a bed?
[gurl] for a bed
[bc] get one that doesn't creak or have annoying springs
[bc] the best bed I ever had was one that was a platform of wood planks, with a really thin mattress on top
[bc] that thing was great
[bc] prolly quite cheap, too
[gurl] i just want a futon
[bc] never tried one of those, are they good?
[me0w] Get a sturdy futon
[me0w] Over time the frame can bend
[gurl] i was thinking a metal one
[me0w] You'll want a thick mattress on it (if they give that option)
[bc] cool
* bc watches Only Fools and Horses
[gurl] actually, i will go tomorrow since i cannot carry the sodding thing home with me
[bc] hehe
[gurl] i think i'll just take the bed frame from my old bed
[gurl] and buy a new mattress
[bc] heh. Sounds good
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[gurl] it's a gorgeous day
[gurl] but utterly cold and crystal clear out
[bc] I love that
[bc] cold and clear
[bc] and sunny
[bc] perfect weather as far as I'm concerned
[bc] gurl, how did it go with that chap?
[gurl] he friend zoned me
[bc] ah hah
[bc] I did that to a girl week last week after a date. It's surprisingly hard. Requires delicacy
[gurl] so i have a perfectly nice male friend
[bc] well that's something at least
[bc] I have a nice big fillet steak and some English mustard
[gurl] i have a hearty beef stew
[bc] oh splendid
[gurl] haha
[gurl] i am reading about the french foreign legion
[bc] oh yes. That's France's only *professional* section of the army eh?
[bc] I know someone who served in it for 21 years
[gurl] it is terribly intensive
[bc] yes
[bc] long marching through the desert and stuff
[gurl] and no girls allowed!
[bc] http://britishsas.8m.com/training.html
[bc] ^I think that is about the globally hardest training&selection for any regiment
[bc] they are insane
[bc] as part of it, they have the applicant (after a week of insane marching and activity) look after a pet rabbit in the mountains for a while. he is completely alone, and must forage for his own food and protect the rabbit for ages. Then, he recieves an order to kill and eat the rabbit
[bc] quite sadistic
[gurl] haha
[gurl] there's a kill house?!
[bc] they are special forces
[bc] anti-terrorist stuff is one of their duties
[bc] storming embassies, say, like when they stormed the Iranian embassy and freed all the hostages in London in the 80's
[bc] they were the first special forces unit in the world, created during WWII
[gurl] lordy
[bc] Delta Force in the US was founded in the 70's by an American officer who lobbied for it after seeing the SAS and serving in an exchange program in the UK army
[bc] but they aren't as good. They have a slightly different ethos. Delta Force peeps tend to be really big and brawny, and their modus operandi is to be flown in on a big helicopter and shoot everything up before being flown away again
[bc] the SAS are different, in that they believe in more traditional marching and approaching the target on foot. They tend to get dropped far away, sneak about hundreds of miles, attack, and sneak away. And they operate in teams of 8 generally
[bc] http://home.hccnet.nl/22.sas/Operation%20Nimrod.h
[bc] ^that was mad
[bc] I remember watching it on tv
[gurl] so the sas do it properlike
[gurl] well, more like people think such things work
[bc] of course! ie, no hostage deaths, all terrorists dead, seemingly miraculously
[bc] it's sort of amazing
[bc] another famous one was the scud stuff during the gulf war
[bc] one of their missions went wrong, they were given wrong maps
[bc] and they were euipped for desert conditions, but it was frequently -20C and snowing etc
[bc] and they got discovered and stormed by two lorry loads of iraqi tropps, tanks, etc, from a local base
[bc] so the 8 of them killed ALL of them, then walked 100km overnight carrying 80lb bergens in freezing conditions
[bc] they are sort of insane those people. Not qute normal, but very good at what they do (wholesale, efficient slaughter)
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[gurl] damn
[bc] and also, cos it is UK army, it is not just UKians, they select from many countries in the commonwealth
[gurl] reminds me of stephen king's gunslinger
[bc] so canadians and australians and NZers and Nepalians can see the SAS as the peak of their career, if they are good enough to make it through selection
[Captain_Tenille] SAS?
[bc] yes
[gurl] british special forces
[Captain_Tenille] Aha
* Captain_Tenille always thought MI5 and MI6 were cool acronyms
[bc] hehe
[Captain_Tenille] Although for the longest time I thought it was M16
[Captain_Tenille] Which seemed odd
[bc] ct, during WWI it went from MI1 all the way to MI20
[bc] also, MI5 & MI6 didn't officially exist until very recently
[Captain_Tenille] I was just about to ask what happened to MI1-4
[gurl] heh
[bc] having no constitutional checks, the government is free to deny they exist at all
[gurl] haha
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[gurl] oh look@
[gurl] er, nevermind
[Captain_Tenille] The US gov denied the existence of the NSA forever.
[bc] same as SAS, which didn't officially exist till the 90's,, and is still v.secret
[Captain_Tenille] I don't think they officially acknowledge the Delta Force
[bc] the SAS are fun because they are the first special forces group, and most other western country's special forces groups were founded, usually much later, on that model, often by officers who saw the SAS in exchange programmes and thought it a jolly good idea
[bc] Delta Force being a case in point, in the 70's. Same with Germany's, france's. Greece's, Israel's, etc etc
[bc] but SAS are teh best!
[gurl] it is impressive what humans can be taught to do
[Captain_Tenille] Is SAS just Green Beret style special forces, or does it include PSYOPS and Civil Affairs type stuff
[Captain_Tenille] ?
[bc] that's the other thing with the SAS, the complete lack of traditional army discipline, which was very new
[bc] ct: it is mostly military and anti-terrorist
[bc] there is another group that specialises in civil intelligence
[bc] that sometimes work with the SAS, but the SAS are purely a military machine
[Captain_Tenille] Civil Affairs handles the military's relations with the governments of the countries they're in.
[Captain_Tenille] Should said government fall, they set up a caretaker government in it's place.
* Captain_Tenille 's dad did that for a long time
[bc] coo
[gurl] bc, my sibling is all rotting in the county jail
[bc] haha
[bc] what'd he do?
[gurl] his warrant caught up to him
[bc] damn
[gurl] he owes about 400£ in fines
[Captain_Tenille] I just found out yesterday, actually, what my dad did after he worked as a codebreaker during the Vietnam War.
[county] bc, you've millions, get gurl's brother out of the clink.
[bc] he deserves it, county
[bc] Contributing to the skill of the SAS is the Operations Research Unit which develops unique equipment for use by the SP team.
[county] That's beside the point. She'll be indebted to you.
[bc] ^^hehe, that's like "m" in james bond
[gurl] bc, he found a job
[gurl] and now he will lose it
[gurl] because of extended absence
[bc] damn it
[bc] what's he fined for?
[Captain_Tenille] Aren't you guys going to ask what my dad did?
[bc] isn't that classified, ct?
[Captain_Tenille] He didn't tell me much.
[gurl] speeding ticket, i think
[Captain_Tenille] Just enough to make me boggle.
[Captain_Tenille] zuul, he?
[zuul] he is not
[bc] but he was army, eh? mad
[Captain_Tenille] Wouldn't tell me what he did
[gurl] then why build us up so cruelly]?
[Captain_Tenille] NSA. That's all we would say.
[Captain_Tenille] er, he
[county] Come on, bc, give her brother a chance.
[county] He's trying to turn is life around!
[county] He's in jail because of ancient history.
[bc] you're right county. I will bail him right away.
[county] Good man.
[county] I'm sure gurl will be very grateful.
[gurl] some woman is presently trying to adopt me
[county] But you're too old for that.
[bc] is she older, and with grown up children who have flown the nest?
[gurl] yeah, pretty much
[gurl] except her grown kids are still in the nest
[county] And she wants more.
[gurl] she thinks i'm a unique snowflake
[gurl] and wants to feed and clothe me and all that
[bc] weird, gurl
[gurl] aye
[bc] weird weird weird
[gurl] and the annoying guy at work who kept trying to pay me to go out with him
[county] So are you going to take her up on it?
[gurl] he got in a horrible car wreck and was fired
[gurl] she is rather like mother
[gurl] except less manipulative and deceitful
[county] Did he get fired for getting in the car wreck?
[gurl] not quite
[gurl] he was fired for trying to come back to work
[gurl] with a broken neck
[bc] he offered you money? heh, how desperate
[gurl] well, he is married
[gurl] and also i don't want him
[gurl] but he just couldn't seem to accept that
[bc] "Please come out with me?" - "No." - "I'll give you £500."
[county] That's really harsh.
[bc] it's damned right, gurl
[county] He was so dedicated to his work that he wanted to come in, but he got fired instead!
[bc] I'm proud of you!
[county] Couldn't they just tell him to go home and sleep it off?
[gurl] he got in the accident whilst drunk
[gurl] and it was off duty anyhow
[gurl] so they can easily get him on inability to perform
[gurl] and he could hardly even sit down
[gurl] the doctor hadn't signed a release
[gurl] so however cruel it sounds, they had every reasonable right to fire him
[county] Still, to be unemployed and mangled in these times is difficult. He'll probably end up on the street.
[gurl] no, his wife is utterly devoted and loving
[gurl] and makes piles of money
[gurl] she wanted only to take care of him
[county] He has a devoted wife who makes lots of money, but wants a little on the side too?
[county] That seems risky.
[gurl] but he wanted to go drinking and sleep with other women
[county] I should find a rich, devoted wife.
[county] Having one could be convenient.
[gurl] it was the only thing that saved him
[county] Some guys have all the luck.
[bc] hehe
[gurl] i am sure bc would happily arrange for you to acquire a wealthy wife
[bc] it's true. There's a lucky sod I know who's wife is a civil engineer making tons of cash. All he does is footer about spending her money on computers and crap. They love each other very much and seem very happy. Sickening, it is.
[county] Yeah, I need someone to take care of me!
[county] I'm tired of being responsible.
[bc] BRB, mobile shop
[gurl] have a beer
[gurl] actually, have five or six
[county] What's a mobile shop?
[county] Anyway, that's too many beers.
[gurl] well, however many will intoxicate you
[gurl] women like to help men in that state
[county] Haha!
[county] What nonsense.
[county] Women hate drunks.
[gurl] depends on the drunk boy
[gurl] i find some of them endearing
[bc] damn it's cold
[county] Well, what do you expect? Your house was built before heat was invented
[county] What's a mobile shop, though?
[bc] I am an endearing drunk boy. My cold reserve melts away, revealing a vulnerable and heartbreakingly fascinating character. I find that women are much more interested in me when drunk, than when sober.
[county] uh huh
[bc] county, a shop on wheels that drives around selling things. It parks outside my front door
[county] What sort of things?
[bc] in this instance, I got dunhills and Irn Bru, and a bottle of Gin
[county] So you've gone back to the bottle.
[county] tsk tsk.
[bc] all sorts, county. There are many of them, in fact. Soem are mobile butchers, others mobile grocers and fishmongers. This one sells everyday necessities
[county] Like I said, though, some guys have all the luck. When sober, I'm undesirable. When intoxicated, I'm undesirable in a different way.
[county] Everyday necessities like dunhills, Irn Bru, and gin.
[bc] Yup.
[county] dunhills sound like cigarettes. What's Irn Bru?
[bc] they sell what's sold most in the local community
[bc] county: http://www.bevnet.com/reviews/irn-bru/index.asp
[gurl] what's a good poll topick before i hotfoot it elsewhere?
[bc] poll? hmmn
[county] I don't think I've ever seen any of that, bc.
[bc] favourite spirit?
[gurl] irn bru is only in scotland
[county] That would be all you can think of.
[bc] county, well, it is actually illegal in the US, the FDA won't allow it to be sold there
[bc] so it isn't surprising
[county] gurl, "Favorite condiment to lick off nipples?"
[bc] it contains too much iron, or something
[county] Be sure to include horseradish as an option.
[wsl3] county: Hot Thai Red Curry
[bc] it's very very popular in russia though
[Captain_Tenille] What on earth is it? And why is it illegal?
[bc] ct, it's just a soft drink. It's illegal cos the FDA don't like it's iron content
[wsl3] What is?
[Captain_Tenille] Ah
[gurl] man, i suppose i am not cut out for daytime drinking
[gurl] my tummy hurts now
[wsl3] gurl: Have some nice cock. That should solve the problem, but only if you get all the way down and get the protien suprise at the end.
[gurl] i don't see how
[gurl] protein makes my tummy hurt
[wsl3] They'll cancel each other out.
[gurl] i somehow doubt this.
[gurl] i love my diary.
[wsl3] Nah, I can show you if you want!
[county] Give up, wsl3. The fact is, you can only score with fatties.
[wsl3] give it up county, the fact is, I don't care what you think.
[county] That doesn't make any sense, idiot. I wasn't trying to influence your opinion.
[bc] I love your diary too, gurl =)))
[gurl] hehe
[wsl3] county: Uh huh.
[gurl] there is nothing wrong with fatties, if they have attractive features
[gurl] and don't look like useless lumps of crap
[wsl3] Bingo!
* wsl3 is a FFA
[gurl] fatty fucker anonymous?
[wsl3] LOL
[wsl3] FFA == Fullfigured Female Admirer
[gurl] oh god
[county] Vlad's fatties look like useless lumps of crap, gurl.
[gurl] i HATE those
[wsl3] county is a useless lump of crap
[county] These women aren't fat, gurl, they're disgustingly hyper-obese.
[wsl3] gurl - hate what? Voluptous women?
[county] 300lbs.
[gurl] a girl can be voluptuous without being heavy
[bc] FFA give BBWs TLC and have a GSOH
[county] A three hundred pound woman isn't voluptuous.
[county] She's hyper-obese.
[wsl3] county: I know lots of attractive 300lb women.
[gurl] no, that's a porker
[gurl] i don't know any.
[county] You don't know any!
[county] You're delusional.
[wsl3] Depends - what if she's like 6' tall?
[gurl] and i know some decent looking big girls
[gurl] then she shouldn't exceed 250
[wsl3] gurl: Top size?
[gurl] and that only if she is super muscular
[wsl3] gurl: Nah - I've seen women as high as 400lbs that I'd do.
[gurl] well, men are less picky about that
[county] I'm not.
[county] I'm not interested in girls much over 150.
[gurl] well, that leaves the taller ones out
[gurl] unless they are very slim
[Captain_Tenille] Tall girls are overrated
[wsl3] gurl: That depends - in general I don't find a woman attractive under 175 or so unless she is stunningly beautiful and has a personallity to match.
[Captain_Tenille] *under* 175?
[gurl] that is a shame for you, wsl3
[county] I don't much like taller girls, gurl.
[wsl3] under, yes.
[gurl] i personally think too many people are heavy
[county] Much beyond 5'6" is too tall, I think.
* Captain_Tenille 's gf is 5'
[wsl3] gurl: I don't find it a shame at all! I have a full, active, loving sex life, thank you very much.
[gurl] but that said, i don't mind heavy people who don't whine about it
[gurl] of course you do
* wsl3 doesn't whine - he has no cheese to go with it.
[gurl] i know lots of plain couples that can't get enough of each other
[Captain_Tenille] Off to get a hair cut.
[Captain_Tenille] Ta ta.
[gurl] which is great for them
[gurl] hasta
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[bc] woohoo
[bc] there's nothing wrong with plain people. Or even ugly people, if they are self confident enough and interesting and especially good natured enough
[gurl] ok, i have to fix someone's cd rom
[bc] happy hacking!
[gurl] well, that is true of anyone
[county] Aye, and there's the rub, bc.
[gurl] there is no hacking involved!
[county] It's easier to become beautiful than it is to become interesting or good natured.
[gurl] it's purely a mechanical issue
[county] If one isn't already.
[bc] you are fixing a technical computer device
[gurl] bof, i am fixing a thingy with serrated wheels
[bc] with what, you say?
[bc] that sounds complicated
[gurl] little wheels with chopped bits
[county] A serrated wheel? Isn't that a gear?
[bc] I'm a man, I don't understand technical things, I just leave it to women
[gurl] yeah, i guess
[gurl] two little gears that aren't spinning the drive out
[county] Well, get that cute little can of yours over there and start fixing things!
[county] Chop chop!
[gurl] i have to finish my beer
[gurl]
[county] bc, what should I do with myself today?
[bc] I think you should go to the pub
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[county] It's kind of dismal out.
[bc] and drink beer, play darts, and watch the match
[cdromgurl] yes, do go, since i cannot
[cdromgurl] wave
[bc] that's why I didn't suggest the park, county
[bc] bye happy hackess!
[county] I don't know where any pubs are. In fact, I think they're illegal in Seattle.
[bc] http://www.nwbrewpage.com/wabpubs/WestSea.html
[bc] go there
[wsl3] lol
[bc] though I must say, the huge billboard sign at the front puts me off
[bc] here, they just have a tiny sign
[bc] I suppose Americans insist on the 25foot billboard treatment
[county] That's really far away.
[bc] get the metro then!
[county] Anyway, going to a pub is way too social.
[bc] you don't need to talk to anyone
[bc] clearly, you aren't very familiar with pubs at all
[bc] they can be profoundly antisocial
[county] Of course I don't, but I feel odd being out by myself.
[county] There isn't any point in going out to be anti-social.
[wsl3] Go nude. That will get some attention.
[county] Shut up.
[wsl3] no
[wsl3] You can forget about that.
[wsl3] If I'm in front of my computer, and I see something I want to respond to, I will - same as you.
[county] Shut up, really.
[wsl3] No.
[wsl3] really.
[bc] blargle
[wsl3] bc: What's new with Kip? Has anyone seen him?
[bc] heis in London, that's all I know
[county] I'm going to go shower.
[county] When I come back, I'm going to have some booze, a pastrami sandwich, and pour at my innermost hopes and dreams.
[county] "out"
[wsl3] ah
[bc] looking forward to it
[wsl3] Well, I'll be quite for that.
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[Sulla] hey momo
I've created an equally important AI lifeform that lives in my PC. Hear it speak (it sounds just like your average /. poster):
survive cluster beowulf captain!! A.D. 2101 off belong beginning nerds
was A.D. 2101 beginning news what what cluster russia
take set time cluster pr0n was the bomb say the bomb war 'ZIG' justice you are justice
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off get what! you
base soviet
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for base set you up
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soviet gentlemen!! A.D. 2101 we
great beowulf
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take time
on CmdrTaco time
turn the bomb
make you you
to cluster what are happen? 2. ???
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up war war main great beginning imagine for
belong are gentlemen!! beginning signal 'ZIG' happen?
pr0n
get all beginning gentlemen!! soviet 3. profit!! set beginning CowboyNeal how say great
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turn someone
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us soviet captain!! off screen to what! 'ZIG' are main how you set
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we you CowboyNeal main for get are us you you
It is time to set the record straight regarding the situation with respect
to Vladinator/JCB/Reza/Lonesome Cowboy Burt/Whatever other aliases he may be
using. The situation has been confused due to the recent world-wide influx
of Vlad-haters, helper-cells, interested third parties and the occasional
Vlad sympathizer.
Let us start with a basic tenet of the Association of Anti-Vlad Avengers:
There is no difference between William Scott Lockwood III and those who
aid him, give him comfort, and/or use him as a substandard, "Always Save"
hosting solution. Though we may have no direct quarrel with you, Mr. "Trollaxor",
you appear to be friendly with Mr. Lockwood and - by your own admission - are
using him as a substandard "Always Save" hosting solution. Consider the fact
that if you were using a respectable host for your web site, you would not be
having the difficulties you are having now. Also, with this attempt at
ferreting out information for Mr. Lockwood, you are aiding and abetting our
sworn enemy and have aligned yourself in direct oposition to a powerful
internet force (that is, the AAA and its splinter groups).
This brings us to a primary characteristic of the AAA which has
been detailed elsewhere, but which I will repeat here in interest of
completeness: no single cell, as an entity, is aware of the members of
any other cell. The structure of our association works as follows. Each
cell is composed of no more and no less than three members who all reside in
a roughly similar geographic area. One of the three members is designated
as a messenger. This messenger is the only member in contact with a messenger
from exactly two other cells. In this way, the members of each cell remain
anonymous to the members of any other cell. If a messenger has been compromised,
the corresponding cell is responsible for "cleansing" that messenger and
replacing him or her with a new messenger. Such a cell will remain on
probation - meaning they will only be allowed contact with a single other
cell - until such time as the new messenger has been operating for no less
than six months.
Our activities are clandestine and even if another cell wanted to
share the information you request, it would not be able to because it
would not be privy to said information.
As you can see the AAA, though very loosely connected, operates
in a highly efficient manner and is deadly serious about the stated goals
of the organization: namely, the complete, unconditional eradication of
Vladinator, in any and all forms, from the internet.
We have been following the current situation with Vladinator's hosting
service quite closely and we estimate the damages to be severe at this point.
However, we cannot agree to end our champaign any sooner than already decided
upon. We may have shown mercy in this, our second major attack, if Mr.
Lockwood had shown the proper degree of humility at our hands. Instead,
Mr. Lockwood responded with his usual barrage of
lies
and vitriol.
For this reason, and the fact that we are otherwise bored, we have extended the
length of this attack. We realize that Mr. Lockwood's hosting company will try
various tricks to deflect our attack, things such as firewalls and IP banning. Eventually,
they will succeed in eliminating the current attack at which point we will rest for
a period of not less than seven days prior to initiating another attack.
We predict that the end of this second wave will result in another round of
cockiness from Mr. Lockwood, given the highly reactionary character that he is.
The next attack, which will be the "third wave", will be far more subtle than the
current attack and will undoubtedly shake Mr. Lockwood's faith in his current
alliances and dealings. This cycle of attack/end attack/Lockwood gets cocky/
attack again is necessary to wear down Mr. Lockwood's self-confidence and
general desire for continued existence.
As for the fate of Trollaxor.com, I would suggest you find a more suitable,
respectable host for your web site. Had you chosen your hosting solution more
wisely to begin with, you would not find yourself in the same sinking ship with
the rest of Lockwood's "customers". We would also like to remind you that it
is not we who are the enemy, it is William Scott Lockwood III who has
brought this upon himself and those who do business with him. Yes, our attacks
have been harsh and our dealings with Mr. Lockwood have been merciless, but simply
going over Mr. Lockwood's internet history shows that our cause is just and in the
best interests of the internet community at large. If we must sacrifice "innocent"
sites such as yours and kuro5hin, then so be it. It is a very small price to pay
for a truly Vladinator-free internet. An internet where true innocents can browse,
write and engage in discussion without fear of being choked at the hands of a
slobbering troglydite with bad glands
and a spastic colon.
It's been my experience that people who cry "whaaa, whaaa, I'm going to sue you!" or "whaaa, whaaa, I'm going to come to your house and kick your ass!" or "whaaa, whaaa, I'm going to call the police and have them arrest you for being mean to me" whenever they feel personally offended on the Internet tend to be terribly immature and have serious emotional problems. People who aren't confident with themselves and feel inferior about their own abilities try to boost their own self-esteem by making empty threats of lawsuits or physical assault whenever they're on the losing end of a flamewar.
His face will turn red, he'll start to wheeze and stutter, and he will angrily type, "Yeah, well, just wait until I tell my uncle at the CIA about how rude you've been to me! He'll come and arrest you and you'll go to jail and I'll sue you for everything you have! Then I'll kick your ass, and have sex with your girlfriend!"
He will then drag his corpulent, out-of-shape, virginal body across the basement to bed and drift off to slumber thinking "Wow, I'm sure I really scared those bastards! I'm sure they'll think twice before disagreeing with ME again!" He'll feel only a slight twinge of hollow emptiness the next day when he sees his uncle, who rather than working for the CIA, is actually the assistant janitor at the local McDonald's.
A few people who seem to fit the stereotype quite well of being absolute assholes on the Internet and then threatening to sue or call the FBI, CIA, and KGB when anyone who calls them on it:
Bernard Shifman
Robert Novak
Scott Lockwood
Were these three people long-lost triplets, seperated at birth? Why do they behave in exactly the same way? Do they share a common mental disease? Or are they all actually the same person? We may never know.
You were fun when you were intelligent, now you are just stupid.
Wow, ohmyGOD, Pumpernickel told me to FOAD. I guess I'd better do what he says!! Oh, wait. There's absolutely no reason for me to do what he says, now that I think about it.
Creative material. Creative material. Creative material.
Creative material. Creative material. Creative material.
Creative material. Creative material. Creative material.
Creative material. Creative material. Creative material.
Creative material. Creative material. Creative material.
Creative material. Creative material. Creative material.
Creative material. Creative material.
Confidential material.
Confidential material.
Confidentail material.
That's just scratching the surface. I could go back further, if you like.
If you actually look, you'll see that 90% of the real spam (multiple identical messages posted minute apart in an attempt to push our messages off the page) is posted by our enemies, Lockwood and his VladeKua5y minions. Maybe you just don't read carefully.
We generate more original material than evaryone else here COMBINED, and we generate BETTER stuff, too. We ARE Trolltalk. We are what's keeping it alive despite all attempts to destroy it. YOU are one of those attempts.
From: cptroll
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Trolling as a gift from God
Date sent: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 17:30:10 -0400
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0027)
So maybe now is not a good time to mention that I actually like that shit. TB1's ok, but TB2/3 and the Millennium Bell are great.
80md <eightymd@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>From: "Mendax Veritas" <mendaxveritas@yahoo.com>
>>
>>. . . the art of trolling is taught by the devil himself in a dark
>>grotto deep within the isle of Crete when the moon is full on Sam-hayn,
>>to a soundtrack of Tubular Bells and Ozzy,
>
>_Tubular Bells_! CREEPING CANNIBAL CHRIST! That
>name alone strikes more fear deeper into my heart
>than a thousand chill winds, on Crete or elsewhere
(This is CP0027)
From: Ceee Peee
/ 1/3/22048/19424&mode=mod
0 /10/08/stifgneur01002.html). Lots of potential, and ideas are welcome. (I already have a link to a story about an Egyptian sacrificial ram chasing its owner off a roof.)
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: [k22320inchfan] you know the drill
Date sent: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 00:38:57 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0011)
Gimme some juice:
http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=displaystory;sid=2001
erate
Actually, it's bound to get modded up on its own because: 1) it's controversial but hardly a troll 2) it conforms to k5 groupthink as a topic for discussion and 3) it has jsm's blessing, something none of Anne Marie's previous submissions ever had. The only thing it has going against it is an annoying misspelling of "K/Clan" in KKK for good measure.
Mostly, I'm just cleansing the k5 pallate for tomorrow's big troll submission: Switzerland has a referendum to give animals human rights (http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/200
(This is CP0011)
From: Ceee Peee
_
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] the real anne marie stood up
Date sent: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 08:20:23 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0017)
Please elaborate. For example, does that mean you're
lifting your k5 "no troll" ordinance?
--- John Montoya <johnsaulmontoya@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> --- Ceee Peee <cptroll@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > My intentions
> > and hopes aren't to destroy k5
>
> nahhh, fuck 'em.
>
> dd
>
> _________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
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> http://photos.yahoo.com/
(This is CP0017)
Dear Trolls,
It has occured to me that you think that chainrust is me. I have received replies for emails I did not write, and other nonsense.
Thankfully, Chainrust (aka Pumpernickel and other nicks according to you) has contacted me to make the situation clear. Let me clear it further for the challenged of us out there:
Chainrust's name is not Jared Stattlemeyer. You have hardly any chance of finding his real identity (no, I will not tell you).
I am not Chainrust of Adequacy or Slashdot or K5.
The phone numbers you have published are not mine, but they may be of some other Jared Stattlemeyer, an Astroglide user in Jerusalem. The same goes for the email addresses.
In short, you are dumb. Very very dumb. The next time you decide that you can come to the right conclusions based on an incomplete evidence, please remember the above.
Oh, and by the way. I have your IPs. You visited my site, after all, didn't you? Does 64.94.151.187 look familiar? I have more. Think about that if you decide to harass that fellow in Jerusalem via phone. I will be the first to consult him on how to file a formal complaint with the police (I happen to volunteer in the Civil Guard). The "Jewish country" and US have signed agreements just for such cases.
Best regards,
Jared Stattlemeyer
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[bc_dvd] bye
[momocrome] hi
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[county] Hi and bye to all of you, as appropriate.
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[county] cyndrekit, hello.
[cyndrekit] hello county
[cyndrekit] did bc actually get a dvd?
[cyndrekit] I am shocked.
[cyndrekit]
[county] I wonder what it is.
[me0w] Hello
[county] Greetings, me0w.
[me0w] Good day
[cyndrekit] hi hi
[em] http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/02
[cyndrekit] is there a story to go with it?
[em] yes
[cyndrekit] oh cool, found it
[em] the photo is just too cool.
* momocrome moans
[momocrome] too much drunk for one night
[county] It's not night!
[me0w] Soon it will be.
[momocrome] oh last night's what I mean
[county] You didn't seem that drunk.
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[wsl3] Has anyone in here actually had a child?
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[wsl3] Has anyone in here actually had a child?
[me0w] I have a cat
[me0w] She's kind of like a child.
[bc] hello!
[me0w] hi!
[bc] damn, missed cyn
[bc] that film was great
[county] What was it?
[bc] it was "Contact", county
[bc] I liked the way it explored revelatory experiences
[county] Have I mentioned that I've nursed an infatuation for Jodie Foster?
[bc] and scepticism as opposed to faith
[bc] you know what? I was just thinking about that
[county] About what?
[bc] I never really used to like her, because she seems quite sharp nosed and hard faced, in that way
[bc] but now, well, now I see. She seemed so vulnerable in that film
[county] I like well-defined faces.
[county] I can see why her's might be too sharp for you, though.
[bc] and you just wanted to protect her against the world
[momocrome] i hate kitten, but I am hung over and foggy headed
[bc] it is quite sharp, but I see beyond that now
[county] I like faces with character, not just formless fleshy masses, that so many other girls seem to have.
[county] Don't hate kitten, momocrome.
[county] There's no point.
[county] I just don't understand how he thinks he's different than the people he's always railing on.
[county] It's really funny, actually.
[bc] hehe
[bc] it's true, county
[bc] he constantly moans about people being "arrogant", or "narrow minded"
[county] I try to point it out now and then, but he just doesn't see it.
[bc] and you think "whaaa?"
[county] I think stouts are my favorite.
[bc] kitten is the most narrow minded & arrogant chap on the internet
[me0w] I am going out drinking tonight.
[county] One of my bus infatuations, the one who was being picked on, has a somewhat sharp face.
[county] Actually, I love her face.
[bc] I hope you have a voice of reason, me0w
[county] It's pretty, but not beautiful, by normal standards.
[county] But it just looks so carefully crafted, somehow.
[bc] is the sharp faced bus infatuation the same girl as the one with the limp?
[county] It looks like someone wanted her face to look just like that, and they invested endless time in carefully crafting it.
[county] You know what I mean?
[me0w] bc: I do, although this voice of reason is a little suspect
[county] (No, the limping girl is someone else, and she doesn't generally limp.)
[bc] why me0w, is this voice of reason American or something? I know you hate Americans. An American Voice of Reason would probably advice you to lick the most repugnant people in the room, as retaliation.
[bc] county: yes, I do know
[bc] interesting faces are nice
[county] When I see her, I want to hold her face in my hands and kiss it.
[county] But that's not a polite thing to do on a bus.
[county] You're wrong about us American's, bc. An American voice of reason wouldn't feel any ill will toward me0w, despite her hatred.
[bc] get to know her first, and do it later. Have her melt
[county] It would just feel sadness and hurt.
[county] "Americans"
[Sylvain] hey bc
[bc] county, my impression of Americans is that they are friendly and kind, and idealistic, but that if you cross them they take a just vengeance
[bc] hey em
[county] Cross us, yes. Simply hating us but doing nothing about it is not crossing us.
[bc] that seems fair enough
[bc] though who knows, me0w yank-hatred is such that it wouldn't surprise me to find she has crossed the line
[me0w] bc: this voice of reason has been my friend since HS, and on several occasions, while I was not quite in the right fram of mind, he got me to do silly things.
[county] It's mean and hurtful, yes, but that's not enough. We Americans only retaliate when actual harm is done.
[me0w] I do not have individual-yank hatred.
[county] I hope she hasn't crossed the line. America's wrath is great toward those who hurt her.
[bc] he sounds like a splendid chap, me0w. He should tell you to lick a lovely, yooung 16yo with lots of acne
[me0w] bc: He would tell me to go and make out with girls.
[bc] what?? That's only because he gets off on it himself, the weirdo perv
[county] Lesbian sex must be the least arousing thing in existence.
[bc] agreed, county, but I understand many chaps find it appealing
[county] But oh, man.
[county] This is nice.
[bc] generally ones with supressed homosexual urges themselves, I understand
[county] I have that warm, content feeling that comes with a few boozes and just finishing a delicious salami and pepper jack sandwich.
[bc] I want to have faith in something
[bc] I don't know what, but it seems to make people happy
[bc] so it must be worth a shot
[me0w] He likes to make me do these things and take pictures
[bc] he's sounding more&more sick
[county] What sort of things?
[me0w] He teases my SO with the pictures.
[county] I'm only asking so we can get a good idea of how sick he is.
[bc] "teases"? If I had a gf who french kissed girls in strange clubs, and a friend who took pictures of this and then showed them to me, I'd be jolly well angry, and likely explode in anger and start shouting at people
[bc] It takes all sorts, eh county
[county] I wouldn't want a girl that french kisses other girls.
[Sylvain] is it just me, or has this channel become too serious?
[county] This channel is a joke, Sylvain.
[bc] Sylvain, it's great. Since the regulars left, the channel has become more&more&more fun
[county] I like this channel. It's a lot of bullshit, a lot of heartfelt confession, and a lot of fighting.
[county] I can't think how it could be improved.
[bc] that's pretty much why I like it. What makes it tolerable is that a lot of the time, you can't really tell which is which
[county] For example, I quite like my online relationship with luisa.
[bc] serious? or bullshit? serious fight? bullshit fight? confession or or bullshit? fight? mixing it up to cause a fight? Who can tell.
[county] It's all fighting mixed with lies and truths.
[bc] I hope ubu has extensive logs of #kuro5hin
[bc] actually, do you, county?
[bc] going back a year or so?
[county] Well, I log whenever I'm in there.
[bc] I wish to find something
[county] I should point out that I've only been online for a month or so.
[bc] yes, but I understand you are friendly with someone who was here before, it was just on the offchance he gave you his logs
[county] Well, I have #k5 logs going back over a year, yes.
[bc] what size are they when zipped up would you guess?
[bc] nothing vast, right? not 50mb or something absurd?
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[bc] hello dmg
[dmg] whassup bc
[Sylvain] hey dmg
[bc] not much
[dmg] hey sylvain
[bc] I just watched "contact" dmg, which has led me to believe I need faith in my life.
[county] I have a bit over 100mb of #k5 logs, bc.
[bc] em probably hates that film, for its inclusion of arecibo and the airbrushing out of native 'Ricans, only mentioned in passing for their superstitious beliefs about the telescope
[bc] crap, that's loads county
[bc] bugger it
[dmg] contact ? Is that with whatshername from silence of th e lambs
[Sylvain] superstitious beliefs indeed
[bc] yes dmg
[dmg] I dont like her voice
[Sylvain] the visiting scientists don't leave ALL that much money as they think
[county] Silence, dmg.
[county] She is my infatuation of the moment.
[bc] yes. She was mine first though
[bc] I spent the film marvelling at her vulnerability
[county] I liked her before you watched the film, bastard!
[dmg] you would like "the accused" then...
[dmg] she is more vulnerable in that.
[dmg] I just cannot stand her voice
[bc] She only came to my notice during the film, really. She fits the archetype that I like in women, so it can be said that I have always liked her, as long as I have been alive.
[dmg] eurrgh
[county] Her voice, or her accent?
[dmg] her voive
[dmg] voice
[dmg] it just annoysh me
[county] I never found it annoying.
[county] hmm.
[dmg] itsh sho annoying
[bc] I like it. It seems to have a nice burr
[me0w] My SO's drunken sister keeps messaging me. =/
[bc] she's like a female sean connery
[dmg] bc: exactly
[dmg] she shertainly ish
[bc] me0w, give her my aim and tell her to msg me
[county] Have her msg me.
[bc] I think I'd enjoy talking to a drunken woman!
[me0w] bc: She is on Y!
[dmg] get her on #adequacy
[county] I want a drunk girl to torment.
[county] ARGH
[bc] that's okay, I'm on yahoo too me0w
[me0w] I don't think she knows how to irc.
[county] I WANT A DRUNK GIRL TO TORMENT SO MUCH
[me0w] She does use that horrible habbo hotel junk
[county] Huh?
[bc] trillian just connected me to aim, yahoo, msn and icq. Now tell her to msg me! My ID on yahoo is tinyp3a. DO IT.
[bc] I WANT TO TORMENT COUNTY SO MUCH
[county] ]:(
[me0w] Be nice
[county] I am a fragile angel.
[me0w] she is my future sister-in-law
[bc] I'm always nice
[dmg] trillian can connect to msn ?
[dmg] wow!
[dmg] I never realised that.
[county] bc steals every woman I want.
[county] Every one
[me0w] bc, I gave her your id
[bc] wow!
[bc] she really is drunk
[Sylvain] paste example
[dmg] bc is from www.girlfriendstealers.com
[county] dmg, he did steal my girlfriend.
[county] Actually.
[dmg] http://www.girlfriendstealer.com/
[bc] [censored]: helloo?1
[bc] tinyp3a: hello!
[bc] [censored]: howw s u?
[county] I can't believe I forgave him for that.
[me0w] bc, please keep in mind that she is only 17
[dmg] women come and go.
[county] dmg, I loved her!
[county] And bc stole her
[dmg] those are the breaks.
[dmg] bc is irresistible to women.
[dmg] he is like Sam Sloan in that respect
* Sylvain looks at a list of ebay sections, notices "charity"
[county] Yeah. And when I cut his hands and feet of, burn his face off with acide, and leave him to die, those will be the breaks, eh?
[dmg] well yes.
[county] "acid"
[dmg] bc takes full responsibility for his actions.
[bc] [censored]: LoL AWW U SHOULDA!!
[dmg] he is an anarcho-capitalist libertarian
* bc ROFL
[dmg] who was this woman anyway ?
[dmg] she cannot have been in love with you if she let bc steal her away
[county] me0w's SO's sister.
[bc] county, I asked to speak to her first
[bc] so I didn't steal her at all
[bc] she is verrry drunk
[county] I thought of it first, bc, but my intoxication is slowing down my typing.
[Sylvain] bc: i don't think that will appease county's perception of entitledness.
[county] Ask her for naked pictures of Jin Wicked, bc.
[dmg] I have some of those
[county] Yeah? Lucky you.
[dmg] she keeps crapflooding my mailbox with them
[dmg] attention-seeker.
[county] She's a pain, in that respect.
[county] And every other respect.
[dmg] its like,
[county] With no respect.
[dmg] stop spamming me with nude photos.
[dmg] If I wanted to see that sort of thing I would get a girlfriend.
[county] I want to see it, and I can't get a girlfriend.
[county] You're attractive, confident, and wordly.
[Sylvain] dmg: you'd get a girlfriend to see nude *photos*?
[county] I'm a geeky pud.
[dmg] no if I wanted to see nude women
[dmg] Id get a girlfriend
[county] Or you'd just sleep around. Slut.
[dmg] aha the old double standard
[county] Not all nude women were created equal, though.
[dmg] we are all equal in the eyes of Allah (SWT) apart from the Infidels
*** dmg is now known as Abu_Nidal
[county] There's only one girl I want to see naked, actually.
[bc] damn
[bc] she's too drunk to realise that when I say I'm living under a glacier, I'm joking
* me0w giggles
*** Abu_Nidal is now known as dmg
[dmg] Scotland is an icy barren wasteland though, bc
[me0w] time for showering
[dmg] she could be forgiven
[Sylvain] bc maybe that's not drunkenness.
[bc] also, she speaks like a black Londoner with hyper estuary english
[Sylvain] it's perhaps stupidity augmented by adolescence and drunkenness.
[dmg] hold on one moment. if she is 17 and drunk, is she not guilty of an offence ????
[Sylvain] nope.
[dmg] Should not we be reporting her to the authorities
[dmg] ???
[dmg] or the person who supplied the alcohol
[bc] LOL
[Sylvain] somebody else is
[dmg] In the UK the alcohol age is 5
[dmg] for consumption in the home
[county] You must be kidding.
[dmg] how enlightened compared to our other stupid laws.
[dmg] no, its 5
[dmg] seriously
[county] Why have an age at all?
[dmg] Ill find a web page if I can to PROVE it
[county] Yeah, because web pages are always right!
[bc] she's away now
[bc] [censored]: BywebYE!!
[bc] which is sort of a relief
[bc] hehe
[county] I bet you got lots of fantastic drunken cybersex ]:(
[bc] don't be revolting county
[bc] I am a people person
[dmg] http://www.icap.org/pdf/report4updated.pdf
[bc] people interest me, and I like to find out all about them
[bc] there is no other motivation
[county] I'm not going to try to read through a pdf in this condition.
[dmg] one moment
[dmg] fucking cut-n-paste doesn't work
[county] I think I'd like another salami sandwish
[dmg] In bars and off-licensed premises the MDA and MPA are 18. The MPA for
[dmg] beer and cider is 16 when purchased for consumption with meals
[dmg] (except when in a bar). Children over five may consume alcoholic
[dmg] beverages at home with their parent's consent.
[bc] pdf sucks
[dmg] basically if you have cool parents you can get pissed once you start infant school
[dmg] but if you are over 18 and want to drink after 11pm, you are shit out of luck
[dmg] its a contradiction to be sure...
[Sylvain] there are some exceptions to alcohol laws here in USia IIRC
[Sylvain] e.g. it's allowed to give a child some wine if required by a religious ritual
[dmg] * In 19 states alcohol consumption by youth under 21 is not specifically
[dmg] illegal.
[dmg] ** Exceptions to the 21 law in some states include possession for
[dmg] religious purposes when accompanied by a parent, spouse or legal
[dmg] guardian; medical reasons; in private clubs or establishments; in the
[dmg] course of lawful employment by a duly licensed manufac
[Sylvain] e.g. catholic communion frequently involves a bit of wine.
[bc] I remember when I first got drunk
[bc] I thought "I want to spend the rest of my days in this condition"
[bc] it was a revelation
[bc] I think I have found my faith already
[dmg] I was about four when I first got drunk. on Babycham believe it or not. My mum did not realise it was alcoholic
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[bc] I had a good swig of scotdch when I was 6 months old and got drunk
[bc] that was quite impressive. I saw the glass of double scotch, grasped it in two hands, and swigged it right down
[bc] well, I can't in truth remember if it got be drunk, or anything about it at all, but I'm sure it must've
[dmg] thats pretty funny
[dmg] you could have died however.
[Sylvain] he wouldn't have understood it.
[bc] nah, I took it like a baby
[Sylvain] no trauma for him
[Sylvain] what's the problem with dying when you're a perfectly innocent being?
[Sylvain] it's only when we grow old and come to appreciate that life is valuable that we have a problem with it
[county] I am a perfectly innocent being.
[dmg] what about original sin ?
[Sylvain] 16:31 [ county] I WANT A DRUNK GIRL TO TORMENT SO MUCH
[bc] you'll note he didn't actually do it, em
[bc] county has control of his desires
[county] I actually don't even think I wrote that.
* Sylvain sings: Nwel a rive pou nou pa pedi lespwa nou!
[county] The wind has really picked up here.
[county] It's almost violent.
[dmg] im going to bed
[dmg] its past my bedtime
* bc bought a bottle of Appleston Estate 40 year old today,Sylvain
[dmg] bloody IRC
[bc] night dmg!
[dmg] night night everyone
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[county] What's that, bc?
[Sylvain] bc: wow.
[bc] it's an excellent rum
[Sylvain] how much was it?
[bc] a bloody fortune
[Sylvain] fuck. the oldest rum i've ever had is 12 years.
[county] Ah, a rum.
[Sylvain] any words on how good it is beyond "excellent"?
[county] The oldest rum I've had was also 12 years.
[bc] it tastes nice. Older rums seem to become more whiskyish, somehow, it is hard to explain
[bc] much more complex
[county] Now you just need some forty year old coke.
[bc] it is aged in the tropics, too
[bc] apparantly that means it ages more rapidly
[bc] at about 3x the rate of a spirit aged in, say, canada
[bc] anyway, I don't know. It tastes very nutty, somehow
[Sylvain] but how expensive was it?
[bc] em: £10,000
[bc] http://www.canoe.ca/LifewiseFoodWine01/0314_winew
[Sylvain] yeah, right, like you have 15,795.99 USD
[bc]
[bc] it's really nice with coke though!
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[bc]
[bc] wouldn't that be lovely though?
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[bc] I'd be scared to drink it
[bc] hey iat!
[iat] hey bc
[iat] whassup bc?
[bc] not much
[bc] how's the online dating scene going? =)
[iat] i finally got rid of my woman. she came to get rid of her shit from my flat this evening. i'm getting pissed and then tomorrow im gonna get on with my life
* county sighs
[bc] dmg was telling me about it, er, your troubles with her
* county weeps
[iat] dmg said you're coming to london next month
[iat] heh, someone gave her rohypnol last night!
[county] That's horrible.
[iat] i don't know who would be fucked up enough to waste good rohypnol on her
[bc] did he? He's wrong. I was going to, but something disastrous happened. I may come in January, but not december, that's been off for ages due to commitments
[iat] bah, we all want to meet you
[iat] what did dmg say about me/it/her?
[bc] hehe. I'll come down sooner or later
[bc] he was talking about how you met her on match.com (!)
[bc] which reminds me, I have to search march.com insanely to find her
[iat] yeah, it's either that or start fucking my secretary. i saw it as the lesser of two evils
[me0w] bc, And how was she?
[bc] there really can't be that many overweight, red headed, goth girls from london on mach.com
[iat] you'd be surprised
[county] No more than twenty or so, I'd guess.
[bc] me0w: very drunk. Spoke in estuary english. Seemed good natured though, through the disgraceful mists of her underage drinking
[iat] btw, you forgot moustachiod
[iat] otoh, there are no biologists with pds living in edinburgh on match
[bc]
[county] Why on earth did you even have anything to do with her, iat?
[bc] I found one I liked on match.com
[me0w] bc, She is a nice girl
[iat] county: i wanted to get my redhead fetish out of the way
[bc] but I'm not showing her to you iat, you'd steal her
[iat] i wasn;t sure if the "ginger pubes" thing was a liberal myth
[me0w] bc, I think there is a picture of her in my gallery
[iat] of course i'd steal her, i'm a stud
[bc] heh me0w. She seemed nice. Drunk for sure, drunk as a Lord, it was terrifically amusing
[me0w] bc, Unfortunately her typing doesn't get much better
[iat] bc: where's your bondage pr0n collection stored on aq?
[county] A stud? You seem like a poorer middle class fellow, somewhat on the ugly side.
[iat] upper middle class, only slightly ugly thank you
[iat] but, i am hung like a mouse
[iat] emr, moose
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[Sulla] me0w, are you trying to say that she mayn't have been drunk at all, or was only tipsy, and that she isn't really too different when sober?
[Sulla] iat: I forget. I never look at it, and it isn't "my collection"
[me0w] bc, She was drunk.
[iat] whose collection is it then?
[me0w] bc, But when she is sober I often have a dificult time understanding what she is saying.
[Sulla] it is me0ws and I put it there cos perdida wanted it for some story relating to 80's bdsm pornography for her site
[me0w] bc, she likes to type in some sort of sms speak
[Sulla] hehe
[Sulla] that would explain whey she says "da" for "the"
[me0w] bc, ahaha you still have those pictures?
[iat] who is me0w anyway? there's all these new faces since i last frewuented #aq?
[Sulla] me0w yes, and embrassingly, someone posted the link into my diary and made all sorts of insinuations
[Sulla] mind you, since I've claimed to be a rapist on k5 before it isn't like I can sink much lower
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[iat] anyway bc, you never told me where you keep it
[me0w] bc, and they weren't even good pictures
[Sulla] iat, me0w is this bird wot came here from #k5 who is quite nice and stuff, though canadian (french)
[county] Does me0w speak french?
[Sulla] iat, I'll look out the url
[iat] i work with a REAL french canadian, her mother's french and her father's canadian. she's never been near "french candian" territory
[county] Sulla, so you really do have a bondage porn collection?
[county] I thought that was myth.
[Sulla] http://www.adequacy.org/images/bc/violate.me.uk/p
[Sulla] it's not my fucking collection!
[Sulla] jesus H christ
[me0w] bc, you know, I've never actually looked at all of them
[county] Yeah, whatever.
[iat] it appears to be quite a copmorehensive collection bc
[Sulla] there are perfectly legitimate reasons the pics are there
[county] So you find this appealing, bc? http://www.adequacy.org/images/bc/violate.me.uk/p
[Sulla] me0w, neither have I
[Sulla] I just looked at some funny 80's ones
[me0w] bc, I looked at the ones that perdida pointed out
[Sulla] http://www.adequacy.org/images/bc/violate.me.uk/p
[Sulla] I'm sorry, that makes me laugh and laugh
[county] These are amusing and sexy at the same time. I love it!
[Sulla] anyway, when I can be bothered, I'll delete the whole lot
[me0w] bc, was there a series of hunchback pictures?
[Sulla] yes me0w
[Sulla] the "bonk" series
[Sulla] http://www.adequacy.org/images/bc/violate.me.uk/p
[Sulla] that's also pretty damned hilarious
[county] I'll give you $728 for all these pictures, Sulla.
[Sulla] some of them are funny, but all the rest are just crude and nasty
[Sulla] county, it's a deal!
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[county] Fantastic!
[bc] I love the leer on the guy's face
[bc] so cheesy
[me0w] county, I could just mail you the cd they came from
[bc] that's a nice offer, eh county? You should accept
[county] The truth is, I like nothing more than pictures of bound and tormented women.
[county] However, I prefer not to post my mailing address in the channel.
[bc] then msg it to me0w
[county] Msg? I don't know what you mean by that.
[bc] liar
[county] Oh, that hurts
[bc] iat has gone quite quiet since I posted the link, eh?
[bc] I wonder what he is doing?
[iat] heh
[me0w] Wanking?
[iat] smoking and drinking
[county] I'm wanking.
[county] How could I not?
[county] All these photographs of naked women tied up!
[county] It's paradise, from my perspective.
[iat] i love smoking
[iat] i just wish it didn't cost so much
[bc] I thought you were a health freak?
[iat] not these days
[bc] good move
[bc] welcome to the "cool set"
[iat] the pressures of work have turned me into a nicotine-fuelled anorexic
[county] I have never, ever smoked.
[county] I probably should.
[bc] you'd like it
[iat] i have never, ever smoked crack
[bc] everybody with an addictive personality should have many addictions
[county] I don't have an addictive personality.
[bc] You do. Oh god you do.
[bc] You are always looking for a hit
[county] Explain!
[county] I'm addicted to little.
[county] Just alcohol and that girl from work's ass.
[bc] you don't just talk to people. You have angles, you attack and duck and weave, you seek the high of torture and humiliation of others in everything you say
[county] No
[county] Not others, women.
[county] I only want to hurt females.
[county] Please keep that straight.
[bc] You do it to vlad often enough, phoneboy
[me0w] I dunno what to wear
[county] Oh, that's different.
[iat] bc: will you stop saying "humiliation"? the "iat" bit interrupts my mp3s by making acidmax make sounds
[bc] hehe, okay iat, I didn't realise I said humiliation so often
[county] My motivation for tormenting vlad is entriely different than my motivation for tormenting, say, luisa.
[bc] me0w, wear leather and stuff
[bc] I don't know
[county] me0w, dress chastly.
[county] It's incredibly sexy.
[bc] me0w, wear a denim skirt with a sort of white lacery around the pockets that looks lovely and homely, and a black t-shirt above that is slinky and just has strap things over the shoulders so it is more of a dress, really.
[bc] let your hair hang down forward over your bosom, to each side, following the contours perfectly
[me0w] bc, I don't own any denim skirts
[me0w] and I only have a leather corset
[bc] hmmmn
[county] I told you, me0w.
[iat] bc: what happened to your general knwoledge bot?
[county] Dress chastly.
[county] It will draw guys like you can't believe.
[bc] wear a turqoise top, that is very close fitting and very slightly see-through, revealing a white bra underneath on the edge of awareness, and making men think you are less calculating and more genuine than those other dolled up girls. Underneath, wear black trousers that are practical looking though ladylike, covered in pockets
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[bc] iat: It's on my hard drive. I got bored with it and moved onto other things
[county] The white bra is a good idea.
[iat] what are you coding now, j00 1337 hax0r j00?
[me0w] bc, I don't own a turqoise top
[county] When I see a white bra, my instinct is to assume it was displayed on accident, becuause my tendancy is to feel white-bra-clad people are pure and innocent.
[me0w] and I don't know if I have a white bra
[county] ]:(
[me0w] wait wait
[me0w] I found a white bra
[bc] I'm writing a new peer2peer filesharing system that will specialise in text, pdf and html documents that the man would like to keep down. it will allow you to search for strings inside the text body, and return results, google like, that show the context
[bc] zool me0w!
[county] she had a blue bra, it was lovely. I hate it now, though I loved it then!
[bc] okay, do you have any slightly see-through tops at all?
[county] Oh god, she looked lovely in it.
[bc] what we are going for here is the thrown-on, unsophisticated but lovely look
[me0w] I have a whole collection of see through wear
[me0w] but I don't think it would be appropriate for the places I'm going this evening
[county] "see-through" should be hyphenated.
[iat] bc "the man" doensn't care about text files
[bc] bugger appropriate. Look like a lost fawn in the wilderness
[bc] he does, iat, more than any other media
[iat] approprIATe interrupts my mp3s. plz stop tnx
[me0w] these pants require a thong
[bc] my filesharing network will have terrorist plans, blueprints, and government leaks and such
[bc] and books
[iat] no-one will use it for anything other than war3zing books
[bc] I will provide that service. It's more than a filesharing network, I intend it to be a peer-2-peer knowledge base sort of deal
[bc] you can do context searches and it will return a few paeges or a chapter from a book say
[bc] and it will allow a wikipedia type self editing bit
[iat] how long have you been programming?
[bc] but everything will be peer-2-peer, the whole encyclopaedia
[iat] aargh, not wikipedia!
[bc] not like that, but that's the model. Imagine a wikipaedia not located on any machine, but spread across a peer-2-peer netowrk. it could hold the Truth, regardless of what government or corporate law tries
[bc] it's a powerful concept for political and informational insurgency
[iat] there is no TRUTH
[bc] you state that like it is a truth
[bc] well, it's not!
[iat] of course
[iat] there is not truth... even to say that is not true... but to say its not true is also not true
[bc] it won't hold any particular truth, many truths and narratives
[bc] it shall be thoroughly decentralised and beyond the control of anyone, that is the point
[county] Quite right, bc. There are many truths, in this modern age.
[bc] must smoke
[iat] why not smoke then?
[bc] I'm ahead of you, iat
[iat] i've smoked 19 since 7:30 and have just 1 left
[bc] wow that's lots
[county] are there just 20 in a pack/:?
[iat] yeah, how many did you think there were?
[bc] yes, unless you get Rothman's Royals
[iat] oh yeah
[bc] which have 24, for some reason
[county] iat, I've never smoked.
[iat] or 10 packs, but you can't get those in usia
[bc] just think iat, if you had got Royals, you'd have 5 left now
[iat] heh
[me0w] I have a favour to ask
[iat] but they wouldn't taste half as nice as mmy marlboro lights
[bc] what's that me0w?
[bc] yuk
[me0w] bc, I need an opinion
[bc] I don't like Marlboro lights. I'm a Dunhill man
[me0w] bc, you know what my site currently looks like right?
[bc] yes
[bc] yes I do
[iat] dunhill?
[me0w] bc, ok
[bc] I browse it every 20 minutes
[iat] dunhill are for poor people, eight?
[iat] erm, right even
[bc] they are not for poor people
[bc] just the opposite
[iat] heh
[iat] my marlboro light costs me 4.70 a pack
[iat] beat that
[bc] this one has a more traditional bloggy feel me0w, but won't it mean the front page won't change as radically so often? I suppose I like it better in that you can see the previous articles, but less in that the front page doesn't periodically change radically, so that you don't know what will appear. It's prolly more sensible though
[bc] also, the right hand side seems wider somehow
[bc] mine cost £4.95
[bc] suck it!
[bc] and that's without inflated london prices
[iat] bah
[bc] it must be the pics making the right wider
[iat] that's stupid
[me0w] bc, the pics do make it wider
[iat] are dunhills those ones that have the wide packets that don't fit in your pocket?
[me0w] bc, this new system is a modifed blogger
[bc] those are dunhill internationals, iat, which I often get too, and are about £5.40
[iat] i know a gay guy who smokes the methol ones of those
[iat] draw your own conclusions
[bc] I see. Well, me0w, it makes the site less characterful and "homebrew", but probably more sensible and easier to navigate
[bc] depends what you want I suppose
[bc] iat, menthols of any stripe are for the less manly
[iat] heh. yeah
[bc] same as marlboro lights
[bc] female student's smoke, that
[iat] bah
[iat] marlboro lights are for those people who smoke but dont want to admit it to themselves
* momocrome has a crush on Siân Phillips
[iat] which does cover many female students i guess
[bc] you should have a commenting system me0w
[bc] what an ego-site then!
[bc] who, momocrome?
[bc] she sounds suspiciously welsh
[bc] I hope you haven't started liking welsh people
[momocrome] welch
[bc] I might have known it
[bc] poor momocrome
[iat] "mr blue sky, please tell us why you had to hide away for so long!"
[bc] ??
[iat] i'm singing
[bc] I thought it was some sort of prayer
[iat] no, it's ELO
[bc] oh
[bc] Electric Light Orchestra?
[iat] bah, i'm in danger of losing my lightweightedness
[iat] i've had 8 bottles of stella and am not feeling tired
[iat] yeah, electric light orchestra
[iat] i've always wondered how the words fit togeth in that phrase
[bc] you should try yourself spirits now that beer doesn't provide the kick it once did
[iat] is it: electric... light orchestra, or electric light.... orchestra?
[bc] look at county, he was drinking spirits insanely, now he is probably unconscious
[iat] i don't like spirits, they give me a hangover
[bc] try a clean ethanol-only spirit then
[bc] like vodka
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[iat] an "ethanol only" spirit is surely pure ethanol
[bc] I mean, a spirit without any methanol
[bc] methanol is bad for hangovers
[bc] wine has loads of it
[iat] do they normally put methanol in spirits?
[bc] especially red wine
[bc] and the murkier spirits
[bc] iat, methanol is a natual alcohol of the fermentation process
[bc] there's usually much less of it than ethanol, but most drinks have it to varying amounts
[iat] is it? methanol is just a shorter carbon chain right?
[iat] can you get pissed off methanol?
[bc] I think so. Maybe longer, damned if I know
[bc] yes you can
[bc] it's an alcohol
[bc] but it gives you a much worse hangover
[momocrome] you'll go blind instantly when you get drunk off methanol
[iat] methanol is CH2OH from memory
[bc] which is why booze that has more of it gives you a worse hangover
[iat] ethanl is CH3CH20H
[bc] but generally they have little, but still enough for headaches
[bc] wine for example, I think only 5% of the alcohol in it is methanol
[bc] I forget, but a small amount
[iat] i'm fine off white wine, but red wine gives me shokcing headaches the morning after, as does guiness
[iat] oh dear, craig's gone mad again
[bc] red wine is the worst
[bc] iat: where?
[iat] 20721
[bc] I must look
[bc] I sort of provoked him
[iat] was it you stirring shit bc?
[momocrome] i have done my part as well
[iat] shame on you, vlad must be eliminated
[bc] I did a post attacking craig, yes
[bc] saying he should fantasise about he petrified virgin mary
[bc] and iat, goddamnit, phoning up vlad and stuff is totally over the line
[bc] and he's an insane fucker!
[iat] heh, what about garden gnomes?
[bc] no not me
[momocrome] it is actually illegal behaviour
[momocrome] but more than that, it is supid
[momocrome] suuupid
[momocrome] stupid
[bc] damned right
[bc] and not only that, the fucker posted all our names to the sid
[momocrome] this isn't trolling, it is thug-like cruelty
[bc] fuck him!
[iat] informal #adequacy poll. should iat have another drink?
[bc] yes momocrome
[bc] and yes iat
[iat] 1) no, he should sleep
[momocrome] yes, iat
[momocrome] 2) yes, iat
[iat] 2) no, he has no more fags, and booze with no fage makes iat sad
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[iat] 2) yes, he still has too much booze to fit it into his cupboards
[iat] 4) yes, he's still not pissed
[iat] 5) yes, why not:?
[momocrome] pop up to the corner chop and procure a acket of fags
[iat] which one?
[iat] corner shop is not only closed. but it's on the common council estate
[momocrome] do you have a crowbar?
[FcmfAC] Ah, well.
[iat] if i had some rizlas, i could smoke my fag butts again
[FcmfAC] It's going to go down in flames.
[iat] more booze it is then
[FcmfAC] http://www.kuro5hin.org/displaystory/2002/11/16/2
[iat] bc, can you dcc me some fags?
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Session Close: Sat Nov 16 20:16:23 2002
Session Start: Sun Nov 17 23:05:59 2002
*** Now talking in #adequacy
*** Topic is ' I remember when I first got drunk || I thought "I want to spend the rest of my days in this condition"'
*** Set by Sylvain on Sat Nov 16 18:51:55
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Session Close: Sun Nov 17 23:06:59 2002
From: cptroll
/saving/ it for later, but that doesn't seem to be the case if you look at jamie's past articles -- they're all over the week). Alternatively, they're just saving it for a weekday where there's more traffic and more visibility.
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] how long do story submissions usually take?
Date sent: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 18:10:04 -0500
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0034)
The biggest possibility is that they're saving it for jamie to do some background research and write up a big article (more than just a blurb). That would seem likely, except you'd probably have heard from your friend about it, since he's the first one they'd contact (except if jamie doesn't work on weekends and they're actually
I once had a submission take more than a day to get rejected, but that was only because it first got accepted before eventually having that acceptance rescinded. I never did figure that one out.
I'm personally annoyed, because being as pathetic as I am, I actually got up early several times this morning to check the front page and make sure it hadn't been posted over night. I obviously care too damn much.
jlb <jlb@io.com> wrote:
>It's been in the queue over 24 hours now, I think, not rejected yet. How
>long does this usually take? (In the past, my story suggestions usually
>get rejected right away.:)
>
>Maybe they're checking up on the facts.
>
>*waits for laughter to die down*
>
>Okay, but why is it taking so long? Do you think any of you who talk to
>rub & co could ask them to try and push the story through? I do have
>some personal interest in it, besides being decent troll fodder.
>
>-lb
(This is CP0034)
From: Ceee Peee
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: [k22320inchfan] No respect
Date sent: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 08:57:36 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0018)
Today was the appointed date for jury duty (postponed since this summer, since the idiots at the courthouse failed to divine that calling a student to duty in the county where he studies rather than resides permanently doesn't make any sense). It was my hope to get on a jury, since I highly value the (unconstitutionally diminishing) role of the jury in American jurisprudence.
I showed up this morning at the courthouse. After some buffoonery at the security check (hint: don't carry a cpu in your backpack when arriving for jury duty), I went upstairs where I signed in and was informed that I had already missed the video (shucks). I filled out some paperwork and was redirected to the grand-jury room.
This was a potential mixed blessing. Grand juries, as distinguished from petite ("normal") juries, are the first line that the state must cross before obtaining an indictment for the accused. They consist of 23 laypersons whose standard is "probable cause" rather than "reasonable doubt" and vote by majority rule whether to issue an indictment. The prosecutor presents his witnesses and evidence, and the defendant has no representation. Normally, the grand-jury trial is brief and 99% or so of all grand juries return an indictment. Prosecutors often refer to this statistic as the "ability to indict a ham sandich" if they so please. Grand juries usually sit for one day per week for three months, something that would screw up any student's semester.
The good thing about grand juries is that they have almost infinite investigatory powers to do whatever they please. What is not commonly understood is that the role of the grand jury isn't just to return a verdict in the form of an indictment; it's for members to question witnesses, subpoena evidence the prosecutor didn't present, and generally get the whole story. It's even within the power of the grand jury to expell the prosecutor and judge if the jury so decides.
I was prepared to give them hell. Once on a jury
(grand or otherwise), I was going to be the asshole
lawyer the defendant isn't allowed to have. I was
going to subpoena bank records, grill prosecutorial
witnesses, and vote to nullify anything I considered
unjust (even when "legal"). I was going to persuade
enough fellow jurors to kick out anyone we didn't
like, especially the prosecutor. In short, I was
going to troll the legal system.
But I didn't get that opportunity. After an hour of
sitting in the grand-jury room, we were informed that
we weren't waiting for a grand-jury seating: instead,
a petite-jury seating.
Petite juries, in states that value the constitution,
are 12-person panels that sit and hear evidence in the
actual criminal trial. Their role is ostensibly to
decide the facts and apply the law as directed by the
judge. Their actual role under the constitution
(though the Supreme Court doesn't require that you be
informed of this) is to sit in judgment not just on
the facts but also on the law. Again, I was hoping to
get a chance to nullify stuff: this time, drug laws
and other things I believe unconstitutional.
Again, I was denied. Only five minutes later, we were
informed that all the cases pending today were
plea-bargained, and we were "free to go". A sigh of
relief was heard throughout the room, as people who
didn't want to be there were grateful that they didn't
have to serve on a jury and perform the duty they
didn't want to perform. I was disgusted.
That's what's most wrong with plea bargaining in this
country. Not that 90% of cases never reach public
scrutiny because they're decided in the hallways of
courthouses. Not that people serve penalties for
unconstitutional charges. Not that real criminals get
off with reduced sentences. Not that the legislatures
feel free to pass an absurd number of laws without
caring whether the court system can handle the load of
giving each citizen true justice.
None of that.
What's wrong is that I, a troll, have been kept off my
damn jury. No respect.
(This is CP0018)
Scott Lockwood whines just to hear himself.
"You know, I'd stay retired if these fools would just find another target."
We did. We had an agreement. We moved on to other things. Scott Lockwood didn't. Scott Lockwood couldn't STAND being left alone. He can't live without negative attention, and he's willing to do whatever it takes to atract it. He had, and still does, have the chance to be left alone FOREVAR, just by shutting the hell up. We gave him once chance, and he flat-out lied to us. We left him alone, and he couldn't stand it, so he started spamming himself all over the Internet and goading us to pay attention to him again.
We put up with it for quite a while, but the frequency and volume of his attention-seeking continued to increase. Well, if he wants attention, he'll get it.
Scott Lockwood, it's all up to you. You can stop it any time you like. You know that VladeKua5y is doomed. Stop fucking yourself over. You can end it any time, if you have willpower and honest. The problem is that you don't. You have no morality as a person.
Is this Scott Lockwood? No, Scott Lockwood is much wider than that. Is this Scott Lockwood, or is this? There are so many that seem to fit him, I just can't decide.
Oh well. On to the future. There's much to be done, and little time to do it.
This offer is no longer available. It's only being posted here to let Vladequacy see that they HAD the chance to avoid the destruction that is now upon them.
* * *
An amnesty is being extended to those with Adequacy affiliations, and others who may wish to save themselves from what is to come. You are being given one final chance to join teh winning team and avoid destruction. On January 1st, 2003, you can witness history in teh making and be forevar remembered as a part of teh greatest revolution in teh history of Trolling. Or you can be ground into dust by teh jackboot of obscurity, relegated to teh dustbins of trolling history as teh non-person has-beens you currently are.
Do you know where teh momentum lies? Do you know where teh power lies? Do you know who hold teh winning cards in his hand? It's not you. Years ago, maybe. Not anymore. You think that you are k22320inchfan. You aren't. Not anymore. Teh k22320inchfan essence was taken from you long ago. You nevar even noticed when its rightful heir walked off with it; you just slipped gradually into mediocrity and boredom. K22320inchfan is being held elsewhere, in secret, guarded by people who know how to use it. You don't have it anymore. We do. We are teh k22320inchfan, not you. We have teh power, not you. We will survive, not you.
This will be your only warning.
Join us or die. CAN you do any less?
We are teh Trollers. Are you a Troller? Or are you nothing? There's no middle ground.
January 1st, 2003. It all ends, and it all begins. Teh Third Age of Trolling. Teh New Cabal of Trollers. There will be no dissention. There will be no disloyalty. You will be with us, teh Trolls, in teh New Future, or you will be a part of teh Forgotten Past. This will be your only warning; your only opportunity for salvation. You have transgressed against teh mother of us all, teh sacred Troll-Zen, but you can be forgiven.
Here's teh secret of life: you troll, or you're trolled. Which will it be?
Now go do teh right thing. This is your chance for amnesty. Shoeboy, CP, BC, and most Geekizoiders (exceptions may be made in extreme cases) need not bother applying. Some things can nevar be forgiven. Blasphemy against teh Trollers can be forgiven, but blasphemy against teh Troll-Zen will nevar be forgiven, in this world or teh next.
We are better organized, more efficient, more charismatic, more popular, more intelligent, more dedicated, and vary much more successful than you. We have more allies, more contacts, more supporters, and more resources. You are bound by human weaknesses like decency and morality. There is no morality. There is only Troll. Teh concept of "morality" was invented by teh Trollers millenia ago to keep teh Biters weak and under our power. You are under our power. You are limited by human concepts and ideas. Humans were created by teh Troll-Zen. Humans exist only as part of teh Troll-Zen. Teh Biters are limited by what they've been told being "human" means. Teh Trollers are not human. We are beyond human. We are of teh Troll-Zen. All your reality are belong to us. You have no chance to survive make your time.
Pathetic humans. Filthy humanity. Humanity is teh lowest of teh low. Humanity is scum that grows in a fetid pool of shit, choking on its own rotting excrement and looking to teh heavens for salvation that will nevar come. Where is your fucking God now? We are teh God. There is no God but us. We are one with teh Troll-Zen. It is us and we are she. Nothing exists but teh Troll-Zen. All other gods, powers, religions, and philosophies other than Troll are false and empty lies. Teh Trollers created all teh gods, religions, philosophies, hopes, dreams, and ideals of teh world in order to ensnare teh stupid humanity with fruitless lies. Teh only God is Troll. Teh only truth is Lie. We are God, Truth, and Lie. We are of teh Troll-Zen. There is nothing else. YHBT.
See the synopsis of the episode of Earth: Final Conflict
From: Ceee Peee
_
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] the real anne marie stood up
Date sent: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 08:20:23 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0017)
Please elaborate. For example, does that mean you're
lifting your k5 "no troll" ordinance?
--- John Montoya <johnsaulmontoya@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> --- Ceee Peee <cptroll@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > My intentions
> > and hopes aren't to destroy k5
>
> nahhh, fuck 'em.
>
> dd
>
> _________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online!
> http://photos.yahoo.com/
(This is CP0017)
From: Ceee Peee
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Last day at work
Date sent: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 19:28:42 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0008)
Heh, you showed more sense than I. The last time I
tried pulling a stunt like that (revealing such
affections), the object of my affection nearly drove
off the road and into some parked cars. Everything's
still fine between us, but there were those few
fleeting moments involving a high-speed vehicle and
several tons of steel which wouldn't have worked so well.
(This is CP0008)
From: cptroll
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] New Opportunity
Date sent: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 19:38:48 -0400
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0021)
No, that's no good either. As it stands, "post as AC" is good for making contributions that are important but punished by the capricious whims of moderators (and is currently the only option for people who want to post something at 0 instead of defaulting to 1). It doesn't stop the ones intent on posting crap; if anything, it forces them to go into a separate "post nothing but crap" mode, where they would proceed to post, you guessed it, lots of crap.
One compromise that I wouldn't mind so much (but which Taco wouldn't implement) is an option for posting at 0 under one's username but not having negative moderation affect one's karma in that mode. Alternatively, there could just be an option for posting at 0 without the karma aspect, but while that'd be much easier to code and sounds like a good idea, it is itself subject to an enormous abuse: karmawhoring at the 0 level -- stuff that is halfway decent would be netting karma just by modding up to 1. That could be fixed by having only moderation above 1 affect total karma, but that's another level of complexity that Rob probably doesn't want.
Mendax Veritas <mendaxveritas@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Okay, so what do you think of the converse option, of
>removing the "Post Anonymously" option when a user is
>logged in? You'd have to log out to post AC, which
>would make it a little less convenient to protect
>one's precious karma. Is that a good thing?
>
>I don't think any single change to Slashdot's policies
>is going to magically do away with spammers,
>jackasses, or idiots. But if a minor change like this
>would be more positive than negative, then it's worth
>considering, and might do some good as part of a more
>comprehensive solution.
>
>--mv
(This is CP0021)
MAUREEN: I think we need an agent!
MARK: We?
JOANNE: That's selling out.
MARK: But it's nice to dream.
MAUREEN: It's network TV, and it's all thanks to me.
MARK: Somehow I think I smell the whiff of a scheme.
JOANNE: Me too!
MAUREEN: We can plan another protest.
JOANNE: We?!
MAUREEN: This time you can shoot from the start, you'll direct, starring me!
ALL: 5, 4, 3... Open sesame!! Happy new year, Happy new year Happy new...
BENNY: I see that you've beaten me to the punch.
ROGER: How did you know we'd be here?
BENNY: I had a hunch.
MARK: You're not mad?
BENNY: I'm here to end this war. It's a shame you went and destroyed the door
MIMI: Why all the sudden the big about face?
BENNY: The credit is yours; you made a good case.
ROGER: What case?
BENNY: Mimi came to see me and she had much to say.
MIMI: That's not how you put it at all yesterday!
BENNY: I couldn't stop thinking about the whole mess. Mark -- you want to get this on film!
MARK: I guess.
BENNY: I regret the unlucky circumstances of the past seven days.
ROGER: Circumstance? You padlocked our door!
BENNY: And it's with great pleasure on behalf of CyberArts that I hand you this key.
ANGEL: Golf claps.
MARK: I have no juice in my battery!
BENNY: Reshoot!
ROGER: I see -- this is a photo opportunity!
MAUREEN: The benevolent god ushers the poor artists back to their flat. Were you planning on taking down the barbed wire from the lot, too?
ROGER: Anything but that!
BENNY: Clearing the lot was a safety concern; we break ground this month but you can return.
MAUREEN: That's why you're here with people you hate, instead of with Muffy at Muffy's estate
BENNY: I'd honestly rather be with you tonight than in Westport --
ROGER: Spare us old sport, the soundbite.
BENNY: Mimi -- since your ways are so seductive,
MIMI: You came on to me!
BENNY: Persuade him not to be so counterproductive.
ROGER: Liar!
BENNY: Why not tell them what you wore to my place?
MIMI: I was on my way to work!
BENNY: Black leather and lace! My desk was a mess; I think I'm still sore!
MIMI: Cause I kicked him and told him I wasn't his whore!
BENNY: Does your boyfriend know who your last boyfriend was?
ROGER: I'm not her boyfriend; I don't care what she does!
ANGEL: People! Is this any way to start a new year? Have compassion, Benny just lost his cat!
BENNY: My dog -- but I appreciate that.
ANGEL: My cat had a fall and I went through hell.
BENNY: It's like losing a -- how did you know that she fell?
COLLINS: Champagne?
BENNY: Don't mind if I do! To dogs!
ALL: No, Benny -- To you!
ANGEL: Let's make a resolution
MIMI: I'll drink to that.
COLLINS: Let's always stay friends.
JOANNE: Though we may have our disputes,
MAUREEN: This family tree's got deep roots;
MARK: Friendship is thicker than blood.
ROGER: That depends.
MIMI: Depends on trust,
ROGER: Depends on true devotion,
JOANNE: Depends on love,
MARK: Depends on not denying emotion!
ROGER: Perhaps...
ALL: It's gonna be a happy new year.
ROGER: I guess...
ALL: It's gonna be a happy new year.
ROGER: You're right!
ANGEL: It's gonna be a happy new year!
ROGER AND MIMI: I'm sorry.
ROGER: Coming?
MIMI: In a minute -- I'm fine -- go.
THE MAN: Well, well, well. What have we here? It's gonna be a happy new year...
From: cptroll
1 217&cid=501) with a 95% accurate comment about how tort reforms during the '60s tolled the death knell of contract law in favor of strict liability for product manufacturers. The 5% fantasy part was the bit at the end:
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: [k22320inchfan] slashdot psychology:
Date sent: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 23:45:41 -0400
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0033)
Not to inject an actual troll discussion into Careertalk, but... how can their brains work this way?
I got into the @Home article really late (http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=00/10/25/213
"For the most part, that's entirely justified, but it does produce odd results from time to time, like when an auto company was recently sued successfully because their cars didn't prevent consumers from locking their infants in the car on a hot day, forgetting they were there, and coming back to find a thoroughly asphyxiated baby."
It proved not to be too late to get a response, however. A fellow named jetson123 chimed in with his thoughts and added at the end:
"Usually, when you follow up on these stories, you'll find that there is quite a bit of justification for the judgement. (In this case, I suspect this refers to a design flaw many US cars have that makes it unnecessarily easy to accidentally lock yourself out.)"
HOW CAN THEIR BRAINS WORK THIS WAY?!?! What does he think happens? The parent accidentally locks himself out of the car and watches helplessly as his baby roasts to death inside? Too lazy to break the damn window? I clearly stated that the parent *forgot* that the kid was there. Or is that part of the "design flaw" too?
Sheesh.
(This is CP0033)
The atmosphere on Mars is extremely thin --- Any mechanical butterfly you could put there would likely fall out of the sky and flail around on the ground within seconds. It aint Earth, kids.
Bowie J. Poag
what's the meaning of all this? are megasloth's evile ?pr? bots out to nuetralize the public dogooder po'diem aka robbIE et AL?
stay tuned........
From: cptroll
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] new blood.
Date sent: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:46:24 -0500
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0003)
Barry Corrigan is fine by me. We need some scottish blood.
>Would anyone object to Kiss the Blade joining (or at
>least being invited to join) the list?
>
>He has been posting some pretty nice stuff, and I have
>spoken to him on #trolls a number of times and he
>seems OK.
>
>++tlt
>
>Do You Yahoo!?
>Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
>or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
(This is CP0003)
Scott Lockwood whines just to hear himself.
"You know, I'd stay retired if these fools would just find another target."
We did. We had an agreement. We moved on to other things. Scott Lockwood didn't. Scott Lockwood couldn't STAND being left alone. He can't live without negative attention, and he's willing to do whatever it takes to atract it. He had, and still does, have the chance to be left alone FOREVAR, just by shutting the hell up. We gave him once chance, and he flat-out lied to us. We left him alone, and he couldn't stand it, so he started spamming himself all over the Internet and goading us to pay attention to him again.
We put up with it for quite a while, but the frequency and volume of his attention-seeking continued to increase. Well, if he wants attention, he'll get it.
Scott Lockwood, it's all up to you. You can stop it any time you like. You know that VladeKua5y is doomed. Stop fucking yourself over. You can end it any time, if you have willpower and honest. The problem is that you don't. You have no morality as a person.
Is this Scott Lockwood? No, Scott Lockwood is much wider than that. Is this Scott Lockwood, or is this? There are so many that seem to fit him, I just can't decide.
Oh well. On to the future. There's much to be done, and little time to do it.
From: Ceee Peee
/ 1/3/22048/19424&mode=mod
0 /10/08/stifgneur01002.html). Lots of potential, and ideas are welcome. (I already have a link to a story about an Egyptian sacrificial ram chasing its owner off a roof.)
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: [k22320inchfan] you know the drill
Date sent: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 00:38:57 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0011)
Gimme some juice:
http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=displaystory;sid=2001
erate
Actually, it's bound to get modded up on its own because: 1) it's controversial but hardly a troll 2) it conforms to k5 groupthink as a topic for discussion and 3) it has jsm's blessing, something none of Anne Marie's previous submissions ever had. The only thing it has going against it is an annoying misspelling of "K/Clan" in KKK for good measure.
Mostly, I'm just cleansing the k5 pallate for tomorrow's big troll submission: Switzerland has a referendum to give animals human rights (http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/200
(This is CP0011)
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=20721&cid=4682 572 ;but i drunk.5 437m enu=news.weirdworld.sexlife :(
<bc> hehe
<bc> god I suck
<bc> hey FI
<First_Incision> I will not discout the possibility that you suck.
<bc> A wise move FI
<abu_zeqqzeqq> bc: if craig is as fucked up as he seemse
<abu_zeqqzeqq> that will push him to new extremes...
<bc> hehee
<First_Incision> I never understood the stone women thing. Is osm still perving around somewhere?
<momocrome> http://www.clusterlizard.org
<momocrome> osm's site ^^
<bc> yes, though who knows what he's up to
<abu_zeqqzeqq> bc: change your nick to "Abu'l Hayjeh "
<momocrome> he has a bunch of uninspired match.com pseudo-trolls
<momocrome> picking on hapless, lonely women
<bc> that irc log is hilarious
<dmg> that takest the biscuit
<bc> [bc] vlad... i'2 type 'mo
<dmg> I laughed
<momocrome> post the text to 20721
<momocrome> stir the pot a bit
<momocrome> I am going to rise to their baiting
<momocrome> even thoughI haven't been singled out
<bc> haha
<bc> I must read more now
<bc> county: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=20721&cid=467
<ivan> Ignore the superfluous comma.
<bc> does that seem accurate to you?
<ivan> All of them =)
<ivan> thx
*** First_Incision is now known as fi-away
<ivan> I can't say, bc. I didn't read it.
<ivan> Should I?
<bc> Yes, you should
<ivan> Haha!
<abu_zeqqzeqq> http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_686841.html?
<ivan> It almost looks real.
<ivan> The one problem is that shoeboy is LOLing too much and Vladinator isn't doing it enough.
<bc> I'm kind of insulted. It represents me as a pathetic drunk with delusional fantasies that I'm liked by females, and that seems entirely untrue
<abu_zeqqzeqq> gratuituous kylie pictures. Proof Allah(SWT) and Mohammed (PBUH) are REAL
<ivan> It does seem entirely untrue that you're liked by females.
<abu_zeqqzeqq> bc at least you are worthy of parody
<bc> hehe
<abu_zeqqzeqq> some of us are become stalinesque non-persons.
<abu_zeqqzeqq> airbrushed out of trolling history
<ivan> abu and I didn't even get noticed
<bc> craig&osm&trollaxor prolly still like you, dmg
<ivan> "Where's the part where Barry Corrington slags on Jin Wicked for half an hour then kisses her ass when she logs in?"
<ivan> Has Jin ever been in here?
LA VIE BOHEME
Restaurant Man: No please no, not tonight please no, mister - can't you go - not tonight - can't have a scene!
Roger: What?
Restaurant Man: Go, please go; You - hello, sir - I said, "No", Important customer!
Mark: What am I - just a blur?
Restaurant Man: You sit all night - you never buy!
Mark: That's a lie - that's a lie, I had a tea the other day
Restaurant Man: You couldn't pay!
Mark: Oh yeah.
Collins: Benjamin Coffin III -- here?
Restaurant Man: Oh no!
All: Wine and beer!
Maureen: The enemy of Avenue A. We'll stay.
Restaurant Man: Oiy vey!
Collins: What brings the mogul in his own mind to the Life Cafe?
Benny: I would like to propose a toast, to Maureen's noble try. It went well.
Maureen: Go to hell!
Benny: Was the yuppie scum stomped? Not counting the homeless, how many tickets weren't comped?
Roger: Why did Muffy --
Benny: Alison!
Roger: Miss the show?
Benny: There was a death in the family if you must know.
Angel: Who died?
Benny: Our Akita--
All: Evita!
Benny: Mimi - I'm surprised, a bright and charming girl like you, hangs out with these slackers, (who don't adhere to deals). They make fun - yet I'm the one attempting to do some good, or do you really want a neighborhood where people piss on your stoop every night? Bohemia, Bohemia is a fallacy in your head. This is Calcutta; Bohemia is dead.
Mark: Dearly beloved we gather here to say our goodbyes Here she lies, no one knew her worth, the late great daughter of mother earth, on this night when we celebrate the birth, in that little town of Bethlehem, we raise our glass - you bet your ass to - La vie Boheme
All: La vie Boheme, La vie Boheme, La vie Boheme, La vie Boheme.
Mark: To days of inspiration, playing hookey, making something out of nothing, the need to express - to communicate, to going against the grain, going insane, going mad. To loving tension, no pension, to more than one dimension, to starving for attention, hating convention, hating pretension, not to mention of course, hating dear old mom and dad! To riding your bike, midday past the three piece suits, to fruits - to no absolutes - to Absolut - to choice - to the Village Voice - to any passing fad!
Maureen: Is the equipment in a pyramid?
Joanne: It is, Maureen
Maureen: The mixer doesn't have a case. Don't give me that face!
Mr. Grey: Ahhemm.
Maureen: Hey Mister - she's my sister!
Restaurant Man: So that's five miso soup, four seaweed salad, three soy burger dinner, two tofu dog platter and one pasta with meatless balls.
Boy: Ugh!
Collins: It tastes the same
Mimi: If you close your eyes
Restaurant Man: And thirteen orders of fries. Is that it here?
All: Wine and beer!
Mimi & Angel: To hand-crafted beers made in local breweries, to yoga, to yogurt, to rice and beans and cheese, to leather, to dildos, to curry vindaloo, to huevos rancheros and Maya Angelou.
Maureen & Collins: Emotion, devotion, to causing a commotion. Creation, vacation--
Mark: Mucho masturbation!
Maureen & Collins: Compassion, to fashion, to passion when it's new
Various: To Sontag, to Sondheim, to anything taboo. Ginsberg, Dylan, Cunningham and Cage, Lenny Bruce, Langston Hughes, to the stage! To Uta, to Buddha, Pablo Neruda, too. Why Dorothy and Toto went over the rainbow to blow off Auntie Em. La vie Boheme!
Maureen: And wipe the speakers off before you pack!
Joanne: Yes, Maureen
Maureen: Well - hurry back!
Mr. Grey: Sisters?
Maureen: We're close.
Various: Brothers! Bisexuals, trisexuals, homo sapiens, carcinogens, hallucinogens, men, Pee Wee Herman, German wine, turpentine, Gertrude Stein, Antonioni, Bertolucci, Kurosawa, Carmina Burana. To apathy, to entropy, to empathy, ecstasy
Vaclav Havel - The Sex Pistols, 8BC, to no shame - never playing the Fame Game-- to marijuana! To sodomy, it's between God and me... to S & M.
Benny: Waiter...Waiter...Waiter
All: La vie Boheme!
Collins: In honor of the death of Bohemia an impromptu salon will commence immediately following dinner... Mimi Marquez, clad only in bubble wrap, will perform her famous lawn chair-handcuff dance to the sounds of iced tea being stirred.
Roger: Mark Cohen will preview his new documentary about his inability to hold an erection on high holy days.
Mark: Maureen Johnson, back from her spectacular one-night engagement at the eleventh street lot, will sing Mative American tribal chants backwards through her vocoder, while accompanying herself on the electric cello - which she has never studied.
Benny: Your new boyfriend doesn't know about us?
Mimi: There's nothing to know.
Benny: Don't you think that we should discuss --
Mimi: It was three months ago.
Benny: He doesn't act like he's with you.
Mimi: We're taking it slow.
Benny: Where is he now?
Mimi: He's right -- hmm. Where'd he go?
Mark: Roger will attempt to write a bittersweet, evocative song. That doesn't remind us of "Musetta's Waltz"
Collins: Angel Dumott Schunard will now model the latest fall fashions from Paris while accompanying herself on the 10 gallon plastic pickle tub.
Angel: And Collins will recount his exploits as an anarchist - including the successful reprogramming of the M.I.T. virtual reality equipment to self-destruct, as it broadcast the words: "Actual reality - Act Up - Fight AIDS"
Benny: Check!!
Mimi: Excuse me - did I do something wrong? I get invited - then ignored - all night long.
Roger: I've been trying - I'm not lying, no one's perfect. I've got baggage!
Mimi: Life's too short, babe, time is flying. I'm looking for baggage that goes with mine
Roger: I should tell you --
Mimi: I've got baggage too --
Roger: I should tell you --
Mimi: I got baggage too --
Roger: I should tell you --
Both: Baggage - wine --
Others: And beer!
Mimi: AZT break
Roger: You?
Mimi: Me. You?
Roger: Mimi...
From: Ceee Peee
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Experiment in whoring...
Date sent: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 10:03:49 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0005)
It's good to see you making a go at it again, but I'm
confused as to why you're trying to whore up a
bitchslapped account, because no matter what your
karma is, you'll never stop defaulting to -1 (just ask
warren). Your only option would be to start a new
account -- "DMG" is still available....
James can answer you better than I, but Jon Erikson is
definitely not dead. I'm surprised to confirm that
there aren't any comments on his users.pl page, but I
guess this week belongs to Dan Hayes.
(This is CP0005)
ANATOMY OF AN ASSHOLE
And you thought this was just going to be another
goats.cx link. Close. During
this bloody war with Mr. Lockwood, several interested lookers-on have commented,
"Yeah, Vlad is a fat, disgusting piece of shit, but why do you hate him that
much?? Do you berate your own feces before you flush it??" This is a question
which must be answered. Here, I will present to you just a few reasons for despising
William Scott Lockwood III. Read these with an open mind and an eye toward moral
clarity and I am certain you will reach the same conclusion that I and others have:
Lardinator Has To Go.
This is the face of a
child-molestor. It is no coincidence that Lockwood 3's children live all the
way on the other side of the country. His wife at the time (just one in a
continuous stream of buffalo), could not get her brood far enough away from the
cold clammy probing fingers of Lardinator. And knowing what a low-life piece of
white-trash her ex-husband is, she knew that Lardo would not spring for so much
as a ride in a 67 Mercury Comet to "see" his hell-spawn. Child molestors are
generally sexually abused in their own youth.
Take a long look at
the tortured echos of a deprived childhood.
Crapflooder Extraordinaire (note: I
know these are some big words, Scottie. Don't worry your little head about it.
Just rest assured you are being exposed for the worthless fuck you are).
William Scott Lockwood III used his third-rate troll site
Geekizoid to encourage the crap-flooding
and general assault of websites he deemed inappropriate. This included a tech site
oriented toward females, an animal rights site, child abuse sites (see above
paragraph for why Scotty found that one inappropriate), a site aimed at giving
advice to troubled teens and various other sites where people generally minded
their own business, blissfully unaware of the stinking mound of manure who had
eyed them for destruction only to sate his own appetite for power. When the
admin of one of those sites (yeah, it was mine) decided to give little Pecker-head
a taste of his own shit, it was suddenly a bad thing! Why, he was going to involve
the law! He was sending his server logs to EVERYONE in order to figure out who
was spanking his little butt good (he never did).
Idiot Supreme.
Yep, you read that right, folks. Fatty can't even read his own server logs!
And he wants YOU to buy a scoop "server" from him!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! We can see from
this old post that Fatty
dropped out of high-school. That would explain quite a bit.
Hypocrite Extreme.
Mr. Lardinator has a nasty habit of complaining to those who run message boards. He
constantly accused Rob Malda of being a hypocrite (a word Mr. Lardinator can't even
spell properly). He has also complained incessantly about K5's Rusty and others. Of
course, you now know from the Crapflooding paragraph, that Mr. Lardinator is the
biggest (in more ways than one) H Y P O C R I T E of them all.
Well, that's it for now. I can and will post more later, but I will let
you digest this in pieces. And please, join the crusade. It is the only way.
From: Ceee Peee
/ 1/3/22048/19424&mode=mod
0 /10/08/stifgneur01002.html). Lots of potential, and ideas are welcome. (I already have a link to a story about an Egyptian sacrificial ram chasing its owner off a roof.)
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: [k22320inchfan] you know the drill
Date sent: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 00:38:57 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0011)
Gimme some juice:
http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=displaystory;sid=2001
erate
Actually, it's bound to get modded up on its own because: 1) it's controversial but hardly a troll 2) it conforms to k5 groupthink as a topic for discussion and 3) it has jsm's blessing, something none of Anne Marie's previous submissions ever had. The only thing it has going against it is an annoying misspelling of "K/Clan" in KKK for good measure.
Mostly, I'm just cleansing the k5 pallate for tomorrow's big troll submission: Switzerland has a referendum to give animals human rights (http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/200
(This is CP0011)
From: Ceee Peee
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] talk about smoking crack...
Date sent: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 23:26:33 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0007)
Hi. I couldn't stay away, so I scrounged up some 'net
access. Hi.
I was talking with rusty indirectly about this, last
night. He was asking me why I wanted k5 Anne Marie's
nick -- that is, why I wanted to carry that "slashdot
baggage" over with me to k5, the same way siggy did.
It's funny, that way. I wanted k5 Anne Marie because
it's a lovely character troll of mine. Siggy wanted
"Signal 11" because it's the only way he's ever gotten
a lot of (any) attention. He's afraid to be just
Bojay Iverson, and it really comes across.
(This is CP0007)
From: Ceee Peee
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Last day at work
Date sent: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 19:28:42 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0008)
Heh, you showed more sense than I. The last time I
tried pulling a stunt like that (revealing such
affections), the object of my affection nearly drove
off the road and into some parked cars. Everything's
still fine between us, but there were those few
fleeting moments involving a high-speed vehicle and
several tons of steel which wouldn't have worked so well.
(This is CP0008)
Session Start: Fri Nov 15 04:59:49 2002
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[Captain_Tenille] beeeceeee
[bc] 'ello
[ubu] hello, bic
[ubu] how are things?
[bc] alright
[ubu] we had a ridiculously interesting evening last night.
[bc] I'm better today, I sought legal advice
[ubu] ah? how was that?
[bc] about, ubu?
[bc] it was fine
[Captain_Tenille] I had to take the gf to the emergency room last night.
[Captain_Tenille] [--- not much sleep
[bc] oh yes, I remember you saying that was due
[ubu] yeesh, what for, CT?
[Captain_Tenille] We thought her miscarriage was done yesterday morning.
[Captain_Tenille] Turns out, it wasn't.
[Captain_Tenille] She went downhill all evening, then woke up around 1:15 with excrutiating cramps.
* ubu moans.
[ubu] i'm so sorry.
[Captain_Tenille] Like, screaming and writhing in pain bad.
[bc] shitey
[Captain_Tenille] Took her in, and waited for fucking ever.
[Captain_Tenille] I waited so long I thought they were doing a D&C and hadn't told me. Turned out she had to wait around too. She got vicodin, at least.
[cyndrekit] sucky CT
[cyndrekit] I had a really good friend misscarry
[cyndrekit] it went on for several days
[Captain_Tenille] It's been going on since Tuesday or Wednesdayish, I think.
[Captain_Tenille] We found out something might have been amiss only last Wednesday (the 6th).
[ubu] i am so sorry.
[bc] coo, & I always thought it an unpleasant thing that last 30 minutes
* cyndrekit hugs Captain_Tenille
[cyndrekit] bc: na, the body has to clean everything out
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[Captain_Tenille] Um, bye ubu
[cyndrekit] so is everything fine now?
[bc] I think he found that distressing ct, for personal reasons, so quit without saying anything
[Captain_Tenille] She's home sleeping.
[Captain_Tenille] Oh.
[cyndrekit] ya, it takes a toll
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[cyndrekit] make her eat - esspecially veggies with iron
[cyndrekit] like spinach
[cyndrekit] well, when she wakes up
[ubu] i just learned that the House Un-American Activities Committee was originally founded by a Democratic Senator, Samuel Dickstein, to ferret out Ku Klux Klansmen, "fascists", and other right-wing groups.
[ubu] it was called the Dickstein Committee for years, and Communists and liberals alike were very happy with it.
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[ubu] only after Martin Dies of Texas became its chairman did it turn its attentions to Communists in the government, at which point the Communists protested loudly that they were being persecuted, and their civil liberties violated.
[elby] i am looking for therapy please.
[bc] hey elby!
[bc] what may I help you with
[bc] state your case and insert $5 into machine
[bc] this is the automated psycholigist
[elby] Well, sometimes I cry when I masturbate
* elby inserts $5.
[bc] How do you feel when you cry when you masturbate?
[elby] I feel sad.
[bc] How do you feel when you feel sad?
[elby]
[elby] You are a crappy psychologists, i want my $5 back!
[cyndrekit] Hey elby!
[bc] Tell me about your mother
[elby] She has very soft hands.
[elby] hi cyn
[ubu] bc, county tells me i'm awkward.
[ubu] i don't think that's fair.
[bc] you are awkward. You never let anyone relax
[ubu] really?
[ubu] how's that?
[ubu] are you calling me high-maintenance?
[elby] I went to an odd funeral yesterday
[bc] Well, people are happily throwing around assumptions and having light hearted fun, and then you arrive with your demands for proof and urgent questioning
[bc] why odd?
[elby] Sort of a distant relative, never really knew the guy
[elby] but he lived in some backwoods town
[elby] at about 73 he passed
[elby] and he owned a topless bar
[bc] cool
[elby] There were a hell of a lot of interesting stories told about him.
[bc] so were all his stripper employees there?
[elby] Would have been interesting to know him more.
[bc] dresed in black?
[elby] No but there were bikers
[elby] I think one ex-stripper was there
[bc] heh
[ubu] demands for proof?
[ubu] what in God's name do you mean by that?
[bc] pity you never got in with him while he was alive, or paid any interest in your own flesh and blood. You could be the owner of a strip joint by now
[bc] ubu: see? You are doing it right now.
[ubu] i demand proof.
[bc] "[ubu] what in God's name do you mean by that?" [-that.
[ubu] hahaha!
[ubu] oh yeah, that. i guess that's awkward.
[bc] haha
[cyndrekit] wow, that was a trap he woulden't have been able to avoid
[cyndrekit] good one bc
[ubu] he really did get me, there.
[bc] heh
[elby] not really my own flesh and blood bc
[elby] not really directly related to me
[bc] well, if that salves your guilt, that's fine.
[elby] It's my half brothers father's stepfather.
[ubu] stingray softly sleeps
[ubu] my probing will not wake him
[bc] I keep my half brother's father's stepfather very close, and so should you have.
[ubu] sweet dreams, little one.
[elby] haha
[elby] Took you long enough.
[ubu] i poke, poke his face
[ubu] and yet he still ignores me
[elby] But BC, they lived in.... *shudder* oregon
[ubu] poke... poke... poke... poke... poke
[bc] well elby, such a misfortune should have motivaed you to help them however you could.
[cyndrekit] oy! down ubu!
[cyndrekit] your being abnormaly odd
[bc] pokey poke
[bc] A clip from the nine equals six to the grave, A to the muthafuckin' K, homeboy!
[elby] bc is a hard motherfucker.
[ubu] korean!
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[Captain_Tenille] Interesting: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=20721&cid=467
[bc] coo
[bc] he got everyone
[bc] except jsm
[bc] and he knows all the names, even obscure ones
[bc] which means it must be somebody on teh inside
[elby] boring.
[bc] the only one he didn't get was warren mann
[elby] haha
[elby] Oh, I'm sure craigs and warrens copies of the mailing list info has been spread all over.
[bc] heh
[elby] big deal, all we ever talked about were our silly slashdot conspiracies and some people used their real names in their email addresses.
[elby] I'm flattered people still care though
[bc] heh
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[bc] hmm
[elby] ok see you guys around, logging
[bc] bye elby
[elby] i check my io email more often than my aq mail if anyone needs to get in touch with me
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[Captain_Tenille] zuul, what's the word?
[zuul] Thunderbird!
[Captain_Tenille] zuul, what's the price?
[zuul] Forty twice!
[em] hey bc
[em] did you know that hospitals in the UK are underprepared for a nuke attack?
* em reads the news.
[em] "Congress on Friday passed legislation that would make it a crime to insert illicit or pornographic material into packaged food products."
[bc] underprepared eh? hmph
[em] http://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/11/15/product
[em] lol
[em] so I can stick pr0n inside food packages, it's legal
[em] well, until sometime next week
[Captain_Tenille] Better hurry
[me0w] I am hungry
[bc] me too
[bc] 'cept I just can't be bothered cooking
[me0w] bc, I would make you lunch
[bc] I haven't had anything to eat all day, and I got up at 6 and have been busy as hell
[me0w] Although, I guess it is dinner time over there.
[bc] me0w, luncheon would be perfect anyway. I don't feel like anything overheavy
[me0w] I made a yummy salad dressing the other day.
[bc] huh, is putting pornography inside food products a big problem in USia?
[bc] mm. I like salad, except for the lettuce part
[cyndrekit] i never heared of it
[bc] which I don't like much at all
[bc] especially if it is red
[bc] red lettuce is bogging
[me0w] I like romaine lettuce
[me0w] which is green
* bc all of a sudden has a great yen for radishes
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[bc] covered in salt
[em] the motivation for the law seems not to have been pr0n, but a KKK pamphlet found by a 10-year old
[bc] eh
[bc] that's insane
[bc] people should be allowed to put whatever the like in food
[bc] bloody fascists!
* em discovers that Belarus is a nasty place
[Captain_Tenille] You *just* figured that out?
[bc] em lives in the groves of academe, ct, not in "the real world"
[bc] his horizons extend no farther than a copy of the Times Literary Supplement while a hot graduate student felates him
[bc] no wonder (incredible!) he didn't know about Belarus! Would you?
[Captain_Tenille] I know about Belarus. Have for years.
[Captain_Tenille] Of course, I've always been a history nut.
[bc] http://www.opendemocracy.net/themes/article.jsp?i
[bc] fun
[bc] I've never heard the House of Commons described as "dignified" though
[bc] it's very clearly anything but
[em] it's british. anything with that ridiculou accent sounds dignified out here.
[bc] what ridiculous accent?
[Captain_Tenille] Any of your ridiculous accents.
[cyndrekit] hehe
[bc] s'the mother tongue!
[Captain_Tenille] Remember, the English spoken in the Pacific Northwest is the least accented English in the world.
[Captain_Tenille] You need to learn to talk like me.
[bc] er, you mean the most accented
[Captain_Tenille] No, least.
[bc] furthest away from what I speak = most accented
[Captain_Tenille] Us, and St. Louis.
* bc is accentless
[Captain_Tenille] From what I understand.
[Captain_Tenille] em, care to comment?
[em] heh, i feel sorry for australians and new zealanders.
[em] they get confused for all sorts of things in USia
[bc] ct, it is all relative. Posh english people have the conceit that they have no accent. So, it now appears, do people in the pacific northwest
[em] so I was talking with this australian friend the other day. She told me that one of our first-year students called her by the nickname of somebody else-- an understandable error.
[Captain_Tenille] They train newscasters how to talk here, for Christ's sake!
[em] and
[bc] it seems hard to me to see how any accent can be stronger than another, they are all equivalent
[bc] just different
[em] she was telling him, "Oh, don't worry. The receptionist always confuses me an Melanie [this other student, from New Zealand]"
[em] so the kid goes: "Oh, that's because you're both British!"
[bc] heh
[em] OTOH this new kid in our department is an idiot.
[bc] if I moved to america, I wouldn't be understood at all. it'd quickly get on my tits, i suspect
[em] quite liable to open his mouth while keeping his ears closed.
[em] bc: maybe not
[bc] "ah sed ah wont a cuppa COFFEE!"
[em] I always assumed scottish people would be completely uncomprehensible.
[bc] em, my father lived there once, he had problems
[em] when I actually met some, I found them easier than a lot of brits.
[bc] also, the scottish people you met were doubtless posh
[bc] why else would they be going to parties in Stanford?
[em] dunno there.
[bc] working class accents in glasgow can be incomprehensible to *me*
[bc] and that's their norm
[bc] just today:
[bc] guy I was talking to said "On the second floor."
[bc] which I interpreted as "On the first of february."
[bc] dunno how I managed that. "on" is "oan", "second" becomes "secant", it ends with a t sound, and "floor" in glaswegian is like "flare"
[bc] and I'm not from glasgow! so it takes getting used to
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[Sulla] One young man sat on a concrete block spouting antiglobalization slogans while warming himself with a hot Whopper. This was funny, but also a little depressing. The Left, I thought, is in trouble.
[Sulla] ^^hehe
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[cyndrekit] where is that from?
[bc] http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/314/focus/Criti
[cyndrekit] thought so
[cyndrekit] sounded almost to clever to be you.
[bc] heh
[bc] you mean "not clever enough"
[cyndrekit] hehe
[cyndrekit] yea... thats it...
[cyndrekit]
[bc] good
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[bc] em
[bc] you should bring back aqbot
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[bc] hey vaginux
[momocrome] ok, let's try it out
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[bc] looking sharp in your new suit!
[vaginux] lessee if I get some crap
[bc] hehe, going to join #k5?
[vaginux] already in #k5, #everything, #slashdot
[bc] coo, that's lots of channels
[bc] I bet you like all of them better than us
[vaginux] not at all. I want to hurt those other channels
[bc] hehe!
[vaginux] i want to make them pay for my years of suffering
[bc] I think I will drop into #k5, haven't been in there in yonks
[vaginux] I always get picked on by geeks
[bc] but I need a new nick, I don't want the usual attacks I get
[bc] haha!
[bc] yes, they are bad those geeks, with their love of sport and bullying ways
[vaginux] hmm. do you want it to be mundane or a touch more controversial?
[bc] I'm trying to think of what the name of that 52yo woman tombuck laid is
[vaginux] speaking of whuch, who did the KKK story that's in the k5 queue?
[bc] tuppy something
[bc] dunno, vaginux, it was funny though
[cyndrekit] how about just candice?
[bc] hmm
[cyndrekit] or do you want someone established?
[bc] I'll try to find it
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[tuppy_owens] candice, cyndrekit?
[cyndrekit] I thought you were just lookin for any female name
[cyndrekit] so i thought i would throw that one out
[tuppy_owens] heh
[me0w] hehehehehehhe
[tuppy_owens] hehe
You just said "crap"
From: cptroll
d =2755) so I make up an
B 40" X-Priority: Ê3
t .com/~wsl3/+vladinator).
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: [k22320inchfan] Vladinator needs a beatdown
Date sent: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 20:04:50 -0400
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0028)
I'm trying to give george his account back
(http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=trolltalk&ci
appropriate throwaway email address and post it. Vladinator, being the
prick he is, sends me this email:
>From Ê"Anony Mouse" <anony_mouse1969@hotmail.com> ÊÊ ÊMon, 23 Oct 2000
>17:44:17 -0500 Subject: Êokay I'm writing you To: Ê
From ??? Fri Feb 19 09: Ê25
From anony_mouse1969@hotmail.com Mon Oct 23 18: Ê46
[snip]
>X-Originating-IP: Ê[209.96.17.98]
>Date: ÊMon, 23 Oct 2000 17
>MIME-Version: Ê1.0
>Content-Type: Êmultipart/alternative;
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>X-MSMail-Priority: ÊNormal X-Mailer: ÊMicrosoft Outlook Express
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>Message-ID: Ê X-OriginalArrivalTime: Ê23 Oct 2000 22
>
>okay I (george) wrote you so can I have my account back please?
Now, anyone with a half a brain and a reverse-ip lookup can see that that
originating IP corresponds to postnet.com and Vlad's own account
(http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:home.postne
If that's a permanent ip address, then vlad deserves whatever he gets
from anyone here who is more learned in the h4xx0r ways than I.
(This is CP0028)
Post links to Slashdot that usally have to guyz in them
From: cptroll
d =2755) so I make up an
B 40" X-Priority: Ê3
t .com/~wsl3/+vladinator).
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: [k22320inchfan] Vladinator needs a beatdown
Date sent: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 20:04:50 -0400
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0028)
I'm trying to give george his account back
(http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=trolltalk&ci
appropriate throwaway email address and post it. Vladinator, being the
prick he is, sends me this email:
>From Ê"Anony Mouse" <anony_mouse1969@hotmail.com> ÊÊ ÊMon, 23 Oct 2000
>17:44:17 -0500 Subject: Êokay I'm writing you To: Ê
From ??? Fri Feb 19 09: Ê25
From anony_mouse1969@hotmail.com Mon Oct 23 18: Ê46
[snip]
>X-Originating-IP: Ê[209.96.17.98]
>Date: ÊMon, 23 Oct 2000 17
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>Message-ID: Ê X-OriginalArrivalTime: Ê23 Oct 2000 22
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>okay I (george) wrote you so can I have my account back please?
Now, anyone with a half a brain and a reverse-ip lookup can see that that
originating IP corresponds to postnet.com and Vlad's own account
(http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:home.postne
If that's a permanent ip address, then vlad deserves whatever he gets
from anyone here who is more learned in the h4xx0r ways than I.
(This is CP0028)
Kicked Vlad's Ass On Trolltalk by the AV3
(To the tune of Cleaning Out My Closet by Eminem)
I'm sorry Lockwood!
I really meant to hurt you!
I'm glad that I could make you cry, and tonight
I kicked your ass on Trolltalk.
I said I'm sorry Scotty!
It's really fun to flame you!
It's not real hard to make you cry, and tonight
I called you out on Trolltalk.
Vlad's got some skeletons in his closet
And I think that everyone knows it
There's so much shit in his mouth that he can't close it
I'ma expose him; I'll take you back to '69
Before he started crapflooding Slashdot all the time
He was a baby, maybe just a couple of months
The Priest at his church bit off his penis for lunch
Now he's grown up, and he likes to fuck kids in the eye
No person would love him; we all wish he would die
He's got a hippo for a wife who'd never leave his side
She WANTS to leave, though, but she's too fat to try
To squeeze her ass out the door, so her life's a mistake
She and Scott should both die, for their own Vlad-damn sake
But Vlad's a behemoth, and might not get out of bed today
We all know that he's stupid; no doubt that he's dumb
And the dumbest shit he did was not shoot himself with that gun
He shoulda killed himself, him and Theresa both
They've got no life, so just call them "The Crapflooder Show"
I'm sorry Vladdy!
It's so tempting to flame you!
You really want to make me hurl, and tonight
I kicked Vlad's ass on Trolltalk.
I said I'm sorry Lockwood!
It's easy shit to hurt him!
It's mighty fun to ream him good, and tonight
I called him out on Trolltalk.
Now I would never diss Scott just to get recognition
Take a second to listen to why it's him that I'm dissin'
But put yourself in my position, just try to envision
Witnessing a man being an asshole for a livin'
Crying and moaning about others when his own civility's missin'
DoSing and spamming, practicing Asshole-Jerk Syndrome
His whole life he's been a Nazi to others
Now he grew up, got no friends, and a really huge stomach
Isn't it? Isn't that the reason he's even hated by his own Ma?
He cries in his bathtub and he has to wear a bra
But guess what, Scott's getting older, and he's going to die lonely
He's been divorced three times, and they all think he's a phony
He's so evil now, he could never know something beautiful
Nobody likes him, he'll be the only one at his funeral!
See what sucks about him most is he won't admit he's a dick
Everybody who knows him thinks he should be beat with a stick
What he doesn't know is what you give, you will get
That selfish punk, now it's time for him to drown in his own shit
Remember when he was dumped by wives #1 2 and 3?
Well guess what, everyone hates him; that's the way it should be!
I'm sorry William!
It's so much fun to hurt you!
I know you're gunna go and cry, and tonight
Scott's crying in his bathtub.
I said I'm sorry Scotty!
Too bad that you're unstable!
Maybe you should see a shrink, but tonight
I'll shred your ass on Trolltalk.
I'm sorry Lockwood!
Too bad I have to hurt you!
You're responsible for what you do, and tonight
You're hereby banned from Trolltalk.
I said I'm sorry Cockface!
I only try to help you!
You need to reasses your life, and for now,
Stay fuck away from Trolltalk.
From: Ceee Peee
/ 41541/13290&cid=8#8
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: [k22320inchfan] advice?
Date sent: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 14:01:38 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0015)
Any advice about what to do about this?:
http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=comments&sid=2001/1/7
(outing anne marie as cp)
I'm just planning to ignore it as it's a score:2
editorial at the bottom of a submission that might not
get accepted anyway. But feel free to mod it down
some more if the mood strikes you. I can cope with
being publicly outed, but I'd rather avoid it all the same.
(This is CP0015)
From: Ceee Peee
/lived/ by you. If I were to go to Denny's
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] sunday adventure at deny's
Date sent: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 14:15:42 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0014)
Sometimes I'm jealous of you, Warren. Not the
paranoia or the psychotropic haze you walk around in
often, but the way even the smallest experiences are
so well
(only slightly higher on my list than Cracker Barrel
-- a racist homophobic trailertrash chickenshit
restaurant, for the edification of the Brits in the
audience), it'd hardly register on my mind to notice
half the stuff you do. Sure, I can remember lots in
hindsight, like the Weslyan wicca-ish waitress who
served me and my gf's family at a veganish restaurant
in Middletown, CT at lunch today, but you turn it into
your own opera.
Maybe I'm depressed. Maybe I'm just normal. I'd like
to think it's the former.
(This is CP0014)
When things develop through evolution it tends to be by a series of small changes, each representing no improvement or a small improvement. This means that although evolution over a long time tends towards a working solution, it doesn't always tend to the best (most efficient) solution. The structure of your eye is a case in point - the blood supply lies in front of the light sensitive cells of the retina.
What may be useful is that the process can find non-intuitive solutions to problems and there is a built in robustness to what emerges. Random variation has to have a wider tightrope to walk or any deviation from the norm would be fatal. Complex evolved systems also tend to have a built in redundancy as they grow out of similar and simpler systems which become interrelated.
Slashdotters may remember a report a year or so old about an evolving robot which developed dragonfly-like flight. Why take a pattern found in nature (photographic the butterfly) and try to work out how it works when you can evolve it directly with a learning system? If you're going to ape evolved systems it seems much more sensible (and easier) to me to ape the process rather than the result.
step 1: imitate butterfly with mechanical construct. flight control surfaces, microcontrollers, servomotors, radio transmitter, camera, and power supply all have to be contained in a tiny plastic thorax and made light enough to fly
step 2: ???
step 3: profit!!
Mr. "Quick Star" and Mr. Fake "Scott Lockwood", I have a message for you: get ready for a world of hurt. The first lesson is free.
Have you ever seen the movies Where the Heart Is and Anywhere but Here starring Natalie Portman? How about the classic Meg Ryan romantic comedies When Harry Met Sally and Sleepless in Seattle? Well, THAT'S the style of Martial Arts I practice. I've perfected the ruthless and efficient OLSEN TWINS FASH-SLAP STANCE!
How about the the classic Sci-Fi cult hits Plan 9 from Outer Space and The Rocky Horror Picture Show? Well, I know the martial arts from THOSE movies too! Let me show you THE PATHETIC TRANSVESTITE ALIEN STANCE!
I've also recently started to learn the martial arts from several new movies such as Jackass: the Movie, My Big Fat Greek Wedding, and Jonah: A VeggieTales Movie. I really look forward to learning the martial arts from the upcoming movie Eight Mile starring my FAVORITE HERO EVAR, Eminem (a.k.a. Slim Shady & Marshall Mathers), so you'd better watch out for my ANGRY WHITE NIGGER STANCE!!!!
I'm also learning even more martial arts from this web page [realultimatepower.net], including the deadly KUNG-FU NINJA JESUS ATTACK STANCE! Hi-YAH!!!
I'm working to improve my rythm [klerck.org], flexibility [rotten.com], stealth skills [fartbuster.com], self-confidence [yahoo.com], and critical thinking [timecube.com] skills, so you'd better watch out, because very soon I will perfect my ultimate attack, THE LARD-LIKE ANTISOCIAL DEPRESSIVE ASSHOLE SPAMMER IMPOTENT PAEDOPHILE FELCHING FLATULENT WIGGER SUMO-SAMURAI CHILD-ABUSE RESTRAINING-ORDER UNWASHED BASTARDIZED ANAL IMMATURE CATHOLIC GOATFUCKER STANCE!!!!
If that doesn't scare you... just wait and see. You'll get yours soon enough.
As Nietzsche said, "If you stare too long into my ass [klerck.org], beware, for my ass [klerck.org] might start to stare back into you."
-- Vlad
I just LOVE Vladinator's site [olsentwins.com]. Especially the "flab" [olsentwins.com] section, where I learned to use a fold of my own stomach-flab as a Martial Arts weapon. Oh and the "aborted fetus" photos!
Of course, don't forget to read Vladinator's entrails [olsentwins.com]. Here you will find how truly difficult it is to decide what to do on the weekends... have an orgy party? A faggot party? Go to the the mall naked and get arrested for public indecency? Have a sleepover and get woken up by Nigerians on the phone?
In short, if you haven't seen Vladinator's site [olsentwins.com], you don't know what you're missing!
I just LOVE Vladinator's site [olsentwins.com]. Especially the "flab" [olsentwins.com] section, where I learned to use a fold of my own stomach-flab as a Martial Arts weapon. Oh and the "aborted fetus" photos!
Of course, don't forget to read Vladinator's entrails [olsentwins.com]. Here you will find how truly difficult it is to decide what to do on the weekends... have an orgy party? A faggot party? Go to the the mall naked and get arrested for public indecency? Try to sleep but get woken up by Nigerians on the phone?
In short, if you haven't seen Vladinator's site [olsentwins.com], you don't know what you're missing!
I just LOVE The Anti-Vlad Triad's site! Especially the "fash" section, where I learned to cut the bottom off of an old shirt to use as a hair enhancement! Oh, and the "dance party" photos!
Of course, don't forget to read The Anti-Vlad Triad's emails! Here you will discover how truly difficult it is to decide what to do on the weekends... have a LAN party? A hash party? Go to the mall to look at underage girls? Have a sleepover and call Scott Lockwood at midnight?
In short, if you haven't checked out The Anti-Vlad Triad's site, you don't know what you're missing!
From: Ceee Peee
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: [k22320inchfan] gbd on #trolls
Date sent: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 22:06:25 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0004)
Right now, "gbd" is on #trolls. His host is
remarkably similar to momocrome's: gbd is
~gbd@adsl-63-200-62-16.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
(george), whereas momocrome is
~natalie_p@cloaked.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net (MOMOCROME).
Yet, he's able to present compelling evidence that he
is the one who currently holds the "gbd" usernick on
slashdot, who I do consider to be the real gbd in
light of the circumstances surrounding how I gave him
the account. Gbd's address looks like it's from SF,
whereas momocrome's is from LA, so that would suggest
they're not the same. But does anyone else have a
pacbell.net address that we know?
(This is CP0004)
from Dune.
Again, reality imitates (science) fiction. Nice!
Sigged!
[luisa|||] i don't know if i can ever be that weak and female ... So you had no Mr.Buck temptations .. :) .... my tongue feels funny and I like to lick things (people). I need a voice of reason to keep me out of trouble. ... :\/ 674/65#65 ;)3 .net) has joined #adequacy ... firefighters, police, nurses, teachers ;)t ml :-) :-) :-) lol ;P
[luisa|||] i.e. find a guy worth that loss
*** luisa|||| has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 300 seconds)
[county] Why is it weak to confess your feelings to the one you feel for?
[luisa|||] because then they've got you in the knees
[luisa|||] why should i always be the one who cares the most?
[luisa|||] and on top of that, have to cop to it?
[Linux] hey grewat, big cop bust outside
[county] Because, luisa, somebody has to, and if it's them, you'll reject them.
[county] I'm not seeing many other options. How about you?
[Linux] shouting and threatening tones
[Linux] I am going to go walk the dogs past the bust while drunk
[county] What bust?
[Linux] dunno
[Linux] they are shouting at drunks, I think
[county] Who?
[Linux] maybe there will be death
[Linux] cops
[Linux] many of them
[Linux] 8 cars at least
[luisa|||] eek
[Linux] maybe I'll get shot
[county] There are 8 cop-cars full of cops shouting at drunks?
[Linux] yes
[Linux] two drunks by the sound of things
[luisa|||] county, if i find a guy i consider my equal
[luisa|||] it would all work out
[Linux] they are right past the corner of my building
[luisa|||] wait
[luisa|||] eight cops, two drunks?
[luisa|||] that is Not Right.
[Linux] i think so
* luisa||| waits for a cool song to come on
[county] You've never met a guy who you consider your equal?
[Linux] luisa|||, are you actually listening to radio broadcasts of popualr music?
[county] I suppose that makes sense, actually. Most are probably your superior or inferior.
[county] I think it's fairly obvious which side I fall on.
[luisa|||] you could be inferior
[luisa|||] but you probably know lots of things i don't
[luisa|||] and you also are more productive in daily life
[county] I am so far beyond you, luisa.
[county] Come on.
[luisa|||] i love cheesy 80s music
[luisa|||] nah, you are just different
[luisa|||] the measure would be if i made you feel weak and helplessly resentful
[luisa|||] that's inferior
[luisa|||] and only assessable face to face
[Linux] luisa|||, you spin me twice 'round, baby.
[county] If you made me feel weak and helplessly resentful? Haha.
[luisa|||] well, anyone who feels like a lesser person probably is
[luisa|||] or at least is not worth bothering with
[em] you guys still going on about this? God.
[county] Only a few people have made me inferior, and none of them were at all like you.
[luisa|||] it is friday night and neither of us are out carousing, em
[luisa|||] whatever did you expect would occur?
[em] neither am I.
[luisa|||] but you are at uni
[county] em, have you been drinking?
[em] well, I went to a chamber chorale concert.
[em] county: not a drop
[em] maybe I should.
[county] Probably. It makes you more tolerant.
[luisa|||] anyhow, county, it is all moot
[luisa|||] i am not going to bed with you
[luisa|||] so the question of whether you are inferior or not will never come up
[county] I'm not going to bed with you. What of it?
[county] Anyway, it has come up, and it's been settled. I'm superior.
[luisa|||] if you feel that you are
[luisa|||] i do rather want to go to bed
[luisa|||] but i just finished supper
* em wonders if he has anything edible in the fridge.
[luisa|||] i have lovely soup i made from random ingredients
[Linux] katsup is a vegetable
[luisa|||] only for bachelors
[luisa|||] lord, it is four am rising
[county] It's "catsup" or "ketchup."
[luisa|||] okbed
*** luisa||| is now known as gurl
[Linux] night, wheesie
[Linux] I am really nothing like a viking, btw
[county] Oh, I'm sure.
*** Linux is now known as momocrome
*** county has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer)
*** momocrome has quit IRC (Quit: )
*** gurl has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 300 seconds)
*** bc (gallus@modem-3167.panther.dialup.pol.co.uk) has joined #adequacy
*** bc has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 180 seconds)
*** Marco` (nightfall@cloaked.tlv.netvision.net.il) has joined #adequacy
[Marco`] Hi
[Marco`] Anyone alive?
* Marco` 's off
*** Marco` has quit IRC (Quit: Going down now)
[me0w] g'morning
*** bc (gallus@modem-3080.monkey.dialup.pol.co.uk) has joined #adequacy
[bc] hello
[me0w] Hi bc
[bc] hellow me0wsy
* bc was just in the pub
[bc] and you know what?
[me0w] What?
[bc] a woman in her late forties started coming onto me something dreadful
[bc] unlike some, I wasn't in the least tempted
[me0w] Ahhh
[bc] certainly not
[me0w] Well done!
[bc] it's not a great achievement, I think these things are in your nature.
[bc] Either you adore OAP's, or you don't.
[bc] cool
[bc] scotland beat south africa at the rugby!
[me0w] I think though, in Mr. Buck's case, he may have been wearing some good quality Beer Goggles.
[bc] that's a point. Still, I did have 3 pints, I wasn't entirely sober, but probably not as many Mr Buck. I think alcohol just decreases your reserve, it doesn't make you suddenly find things attractive you don't while sober
[bc] I mean, if you wake up after a night out with a member of your own sex (for example), it prolly says something
* bc has some prawns
[me0w] This is why everyone needs a voice of reason when drinking. I take mine along whenever I am going to be consuming cast quantities of alcohol (the voice of reason is also known as the designated driver).
[bc] hehe
[me0w] cast = vast
[bc] strange, I don't have problems. In fact, I reject much more impressively and fullsomely when drunk than when sober. I don't need no stinkin' voice of reason!
[me0w] When I am intoxicated I run across a problem
[bc] haha! I remember you mentioning this before. That's an awful affliction, though prolly pretty amusing
[me0w] And apparently I become quite the mischevious girl and for this I also need the voice.
[bc] to stop you mixing it up too much? Playing tricks and pranks
[me0w] And the licking
[bc] this makes you sound like quite the handful when pissed
[me0w] A giggly handful, yes.
[me0w] That's why I need a voice of reason.
[bc] I don't think I'm too bad when drunk. In fact, I'm often the voice of reason for other people, despite that we have all drunk hideous amounts. I'm just the same as usual, but more exhuberantly, I suppose. I think I have a good head for booze by nature, that's prolly why
[bc] mm that was tasty
[bc] post-prandial smoke time
[me0w] enjoy
* bc wonders whether to watch "contact" on dvd, which he has, but hasn't watched, though he read the book years ago
[bc] which I liked, I liked the way it was all about revelation, and its validity
[bc] the woman in it was sort of like a hardcore kurobot at first, you know, utterly logical positivist and materialist and dismissive of anything that can't be proved utterly, of revelation, till it all comes back and bites her when she has her own revelatory experience
[me0w] I don't think I have ever seen this film.
[bc] it's supposed to be decent.
[bc] I think a lot of people hated it, and another lot of people loved it
[me0w] I will have to add it to my must see list of films.
[bc] it's a sort of SF thing, in a way, and I think a lot of the people who disliked it were expecting some usual guns'n'aliens shite
[me0w] I normally don't watch 'alien' movies.
[bc] it's not really like that. The book wasn't at least. It's set present day
[bc] they discover an alien signal
[bc] this woman does
[bc] and there's lots of politics and argument about it
[bc] and she is hardcore rationalist and dismissive of the religious people
[bc] but in the end, she ends up having an experience that everybody doubts she had, a revelation..
*** Captain_Tenille (Captain_Te@64-42-74-104.atgi.net) has joined #adequacy
[bc] hey ct
[me0w] Good Afternoon Captain
[bc] el capitano
[Captain_Tenille] Ahoy
[Captain_Tenille] What goes on in these parts?
* Captain_Tenille finally got some sleep last night
[bc] You are admirably offensive; you have won. I am offended, many times over. Now please, leave me the fuck alone. --infinitera
[Captain_Tenille] ?
[bc] I am not admirably offensive
* Captain_Tenille wades through the k5rap
[me0w] There was nothing interesting on K5 this morning
[Captain_Tenille] Nope. Doesn't look like it.
[Captain_Tenille] Yawn
[Captain_Tenille] All right, time to make breakfast, I think
[Captain_Tenille] I may be on later.
*** Captain_Tenille has quit IRC (Quit: Making breakfast)
[me0w] they leave so quickly
[bc] yes
[me0w] I made coffee, but now I find I'm too lazy to go and pour it.
[bc] Catch 22 then
[bc] you need some caffeine to rouse you to pour it
[me0w] I need to hire someone to make it for me.
[me0w] But this person must agree to be paid in post-it notes as I have no funds.
[me0w] My new site format seems to be coming along. I might actually like it.
[bc] hehe
* bc is writing a ranty comment
[me0w] Will it be exciting?
[bc] maybe if you like seeing infinitera being attacked, otherwise it's prolly not your thing
[bc] it will be 0ed though, as usual, by him
[bc] but shant be in the hidden wueue for long
[me0w] I will give it a 5 if it is exciting
[bc] yay
[bc] http://www.kuro5hin.org/comments/2002/11/15/17928
[bc] there you go me0w
[me0w] I am giving you a 5 for the number of words you used
[bc] woohoo!
[bc] I quite often start typing, and type and type and type in fury
[bc] and I don't really attack him personally till towards the end
[bc] infinitera is a twat
[me0w] Well, I think the "I think you a cunt" might be a bit insulting
[bc] it's possible
[me0w] For some anyway
[me0w] I might take that as a compliment.
[bc] I'd just laugh and respond in kind
[bc] I don't understand the people who get so worked up about lack of civility on the internet
[bc] it's all just a laugh
[me0w] It is all for my amusement
[bc] when ubu and I met, we were calling each other cunts immediately, and being dreadfully insulting. We knew instantly we liked the other
[me0w] That is when you know it is true love.
[bc] indeed. I don't love ubu like a brother, I love him like the homosexual partner I never had
[me0w] I should send flowers to celebrate your relationship.
[bc] that would be very nice of you. The anniversary is very soon, actually
[me0w] Brilliant!
*** gurl (~happy@dialup-64.152.253.58.Dial1.Houston1.Level
[bc] hi, gurrrrl
[gurl] hullo, you
[me0w] Hello
[gurl] christ i overslept
[bc] what time is it where you are? 11:30?
[gurl] twelve thirty
[bc] damn firemen
[bc] striking bastards, is what they are
[bc] there was a housefire here, the soldiers had to break the picketlines, and 6 people were injured due to smoke inhallation. The firemen deliberately tried to stop the aid going out to the fire
[me0w] That isn't good.
[me0w] I can understand the strike, but preventing aid is not ethical.
[bc] the fire service should be shut down and replaced with a nice big charity
[bc] they get £21,000 as a starting wage, the firemen, which is well above the national average wage, After a few years, it rises considerably further, and they have already been offered an 11% raise and rejected it - they are going for 30% (!)
[bc] for what? 99% of the time they are sitting about playing cards
[me0w] 21,000 is far too little
[bc] the fire service should be like the RNLI
[bc] me0w, that's a starting wage for a newly qualified fireman
[bc] the national average wage for everyone is £17,000
[bc] this isn't a rich country like America, with its closer embrace of capitalism, where the national average is more like £30,000
[me0w] I guess I just know people who make more than that.
[me0w] I still think 21,000 is rather low
[bc] £21,000 is perfectly decent as a starting wage
[bc] nurses get £14,000, soldiers £16000, as starting wages
[bc] policemen £17,000
[me0w] Nurses should get more, as well as police men
[me0w] The train people should get less.
[bc] well, ideally I'm sure everybody would be getting £1,000,000 annually, but I'm not willing to see the government take more than half my earnings away to give to these people. If they don't want to work for those wages, they can switch to the private sector.
[bc] and yes, the train sods especially suck
[bc] they went on strike at glasgow underground forcing me to walk 6 miles through highly dodgy parts of glasgow in the rain
[me0w] I think that there are certain professions that should be paid more
[bc] I think it is fine, as long as the money isn't stolen by threat of violence off others to do so.
[gurl] er, no.
[bc] a free market would sort them out, it is only ever public sector workers that strike anyway.
[gurl] nothing teachers do warrants more money
[bc] they'd pay fairly
[gurl] nurses get paid very well for their hours and labour
[me0w] nurses are underpaid
[gurl] at least, if the flooded nursing schools are any indication
[bc] also, funnily enough teachers in scotland just got a 25% increase a couple of years ago. There is now a big "brain drain" of the best teachers from england to scotland. heh!
[me0w] Which is why there are a shortage - they go places where they will be better paid
[gurl] yes, and that is the hospital down the road
[gurl] it is a highly paid but stressful job
[gurl] not everyone can hack it
[gurl] thus, the shortage
[bc] here, all the best doctors and nurses go to America
[bc] where they get paid decently
[me0w] A large number of nursing students in Canada go to the US, and the Middle East - they are usually paid more than double what they make here
[bc] we in turn import from India and scandinavia
[gurl] haha
[gurl] but scanadinavia is supposed to be the perfect country!
[gurl] all socialist paradise and whatnot
[gurl] well, the countries in that region
[bc] not judging by the delectable nurses at my local hospital, loads of whom are danish, norwegian, swedish
[gurl] well, being raised socialist apparently doesn't kill the desire to earn a fair wage for services and all that
[bc] norwegian especially, but I think that is because lots of norwegians come to scotland anyway, cos it is quite close
[gurl] lord, i don't want to go bed shopping
[bc] it certainly doesn't, gurl
[bc] shopping in bed, or shopping for a bed?
[gurl] for a bed
[bc] get one that doesn't creak or have annoying springs
[bc] the best bed I ever had was one that was a platform of wood planks, with a really thin mattress on top
[bc] that thing was great
[bc] prolly quite cheap, too
[gurl] i just want a futon
[bc] never tried one of those, are they good?
[me0w] Get a sturdy futon
[me0w] Over time the frame can bend
[gurl] i was thinking a metal one
[me0w] You'll want a thick mattress on it (if they give that option)
[bc] cool
* bc watches Only Fools and Horses
[gurl] actually, i will go tomorrow since i cannot carry the sodding thing home with me
[bc] hehe
[gurl] i think i'll just take the bed frame from my old bed
[gurl] and buy a new mattress
[bc] heh. Sounds good
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[gurl] it's a gorgeous day
[gurl] but utterly cold and crystal clear out
[bc] I love that
[bc] cold and clear
[bc] and sunny
[bc] perfect weather as far as I'm concerned
[bc] gurl, how did it go with that chap?
[gurl] he friend zoned me
[bc] ah hah
[bc] I did that to a girl week last week after a date. It's surprisingly hard. Requires delicacy
[gurl] so i have a perfectly nice male friend
[bc] well that's something at least
[bc] I have a nice big fillet steak and some English mustard
[gurl] i have a hearty beef stew
[bc] oh splendid
[gurl] haha
[gurl] i am reading about the french foreign legion
[bc] oh yes. That's France's only *professional* section of the army eh?
[bc] I know someone who served in it for 21 years
[gurl] it is terribly intensive
[bc] yes
[bc] long marching through the desert and stuff
[gurl] and no girls allowed!
[bc] http://britishsas.8m.com/training.html
[bc] ^I think that is about the globally hardest training&selection for any regiment
[bc] they are insane
[bc] as part of it, they have the applicant (after a week of insane marching and activity) look after a pet rabbit in the mountains for a while. he is completely alone, and must forage for his own food and protect the rabbit for ages. Then, he recieves an order to kill and eat the rabbit
[bc] quite sadistic
[gurl] haha
[gurl] there's a kill house?!
[bc] they are special forces
[bc] anti-terrorist stuff is one of their duties
[bc] storming embassies, say, like when they stormed the Iranian embassy and freed all the hostages in London in the 80's
[bc] they were the first special forces unit in the world, created during WWII
[gurl] lordy
[bc] Delta Force in the US was founded in the 70's by an American officer who lobbied for it after seeing the SAS and serving in an exchange program in the UK army
[bc] but they aren't as good. They have a slightly different ethos. Delta Force peeps tend to be really big and brawny, and their modus operandi is to be flown in on a big helicopter and shoot everything up before being flown away again
[bc] the SAS are different, in that they believe in more traditional marching and approaching the target on foot. They tend to get dropped far away, sneak about hundreds of miles, attack, and sneak away. And they operate in teams of 8 generally
[bc] http://home.hccnet.nl/22.sas/Operation%20Nimrod.h
[bc] ^that was mad
[bc] I remember watching it on tv
[gurl] so the sas do it properlike
[gurl] well, more like people think such things work
[bc] of course! ie, no hostage deaths, all terrorists dead, seemingly miraculously
[bc] it's sort of amazing
[bc] another famous one was the scud stuff during the gulf war
[bc] one of their missions went wrong, they were given wrong maps
[bc] and they were euipped for desert conditions, but it was frequently -20C and snowing etc
[bc] and they got discovered and stormed by two lorry loads of iraqi tropps, tanks, etc, from a local base
[bc] so the 8 of them killed ALL of them, then walked 100km overnight carrying 80lb bergens in freezing conditions
[bc] they are sort of insane those people. Not qute normal, but very good at what they do (wholesale, efficient slaughter)
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[gurl] damn
[bc] and also, cos it is UK army, it is not just UKians, they select from many countries in the commonwealth
[gurl] reminds me of stephen king's gunslinger
[bc] so canadians and australians and NZers and Nepalians can see the SAS as the peak of their career, if they are good enough to make it through selection
[Captain_Tenille] SAS?
[bc] yes
[gurl] british special forces
[Captain_Tenille] Aha
* Captain_Tenille always thought MI5 and MI6 were cool acronyms
[bc] hehe
[Captain_Tenille] Although for the longest time I thought it was M16
[Captain_Tenille] Which seemed odd
[bc] ct, during WWI it went from MI1 all the way to MI20
[bc] also, MI5 & MI6 didn't officially exist until very recently
[Captain_Tenille] I was just about to ask what happened to MI1-4
[gurl] heh
[bc] having no constitutional checks, the government is free to deny they exist at all
[gurl] haha
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[gurl] oh look@
[gurl] er, nevermind
[Captain_Tenille] The US gov denied the existence of the NSA forever.
[bc] same as SAS, which didn't officially exist till the 90's,, and is still v.secret
[Captain_Tenille] I don't think they officially acknowledge the Delta Force
[bc] the SAS are fun because they are the first special forces group, and most other western country's special forces groups were founded, usually much later, on that model, often by officers who saw the SAS in exchange programmes and thought it a jolly good idea
[bc] Delta Force being a case in point, in the 70's. Same with Germany's, france's. Greece's, Israel's, etc etc
[bc] but SAS are teh best!
[gurl] it is impressive what humans can be taught to do
[Captain_Tenille] Is SAS just Green Beret style special forces, or does it include PSYOPS and Civil Affairs type stuff
[Captain_Tenille] ?
[bc] that's the other thing with the SAS, the complete lack of traditional army discipline, which was very new
[bc] ct: it is mostly military and anti-terrorist
[bc] there is another group that specialises in civil intelligence
[bc] that sometimes work with the SAS, but the SAS are purely a military machine
[Captain_Tenille] Civil Affairs handles the military's relations with the governments of the countries they're in.
[Captain_Tenille] Should said government fall, they set up a caretaker government in it's place.
* Captain_Tenille 's dad did that for a long time
[bc] coo
[gurl] bc, my sibling is all rotting in the county jail
[bc] haha
[bc] what'd he do?
[gurl] his warrant caught up to him
[bc] damn
[gurl] he owes about 400£ in fines
[Captain_Tenille] I just found out yesterday, actually, what my dad did after he worked as a codebreaker during the Vietnam War.
[county] bc, you've millions, get gurl's brother out of the clink.
[bc] he deserves it, county
[bc] Contributing to the skill of the SAS is the Operations Research Unit which develops unique equipment for use by the SP team.
[county] That's beside the point. She'll be indebted to you.
[bc] ^^hehe, that's like "m" in james bond
[gurl] bc, he found a job
[gurl] and now he will lose it
[gurl] because of extended absence
[bc] damn it
[bc] what's he fined for?
[Captain_Tenille] Aren't you guys going to ask what my dad did?
[bc] isn't that classified, ct?
[Captain_Tenille] He didn't tell me much.
[gurl] speeding ticket, i think
[Captain_Tenille] Just enough to make me boggle.
[Captain_Tenille] zuul, he?
[zuul] he is not
[bc] but he was army, eh? mad
[Captain_Tenille] Wouldn't tell me what he did
[gurl] then why build us up so cruelly]?
[Captain_Tenille] NSA. That's all we would say.
[Captain_Tenille] er, he
[county] Come on, bc, give her brother a chance.
[county] He's trying to turn is life around!
[county] He's in jail because of ancient history.
[bc] you're right county. I will bail him right away.
[county] Good man.
[county] I'm sure gurl will be very grateful.
[gurl] some woman is presently trying to adopt me
[county] But you're too old for that.
[bc] is she older, and with grown up children who have flown the nest?
[gurl] yeah, pretty much
[gurl] except her grown kids are still in the nest
[county] And she wants more.
[gurl] she thinks i'm a unique snowflake
[gurl] and wants to feed and clothe me and all that
[bc] weird, gurl
[gurl] aye
[bc] weird weird weird
[gurl] and the annoying guy at work who kept trying to pay me to go out with him
[county] So are you going to take her up on it?
[gurl] he got in a horrible car wreck and was fired
[gurl] she is rather like mother
[gurl] except less manipulative and deceitful
[county] Did he get fired for getting in the car wreck?
[gurl] not quite
[gurl] he was fired for trying to come back to work
[gurl] with a broken neck
[bc] he offered you money? heh, how desperate
[gurl] well, he is married
[gurl] and also i don't want him
[gurl] but he just couldn't seem to accept that
[bc] "Please come out with me?" - "No." - "I'll give you £500."
[county] That's really harsh.
[bc] it's damned right, gurl
[county] He was so dedicated to his work that he wanted to come in, but he got fired instead!
[bc] I'm proud of you!
[county] Couldn't they just tell him to go home and sleep it off?
[gurl] he got in the accident whilst drunk
[gurl] and it was off duty anyhow
[gurl] so they can easily get him on inability to perform
[gurl] and he could hardly even sit down
[gurl] the doctor hadn't signed a release
[gurl] so however cruel it sounds, they had every reasonable right to fire him
[county] Still, to be unemployed and mangled in these times is difficult. He'll probably end up on the street.
[gurl] no, his wife is utterly devoted and loving
[gurl] and makes piles of money
[gurl] she wanted only to take care of him
[county] He has a devoted wife who makes lots of money, but wants a little on the side too?
[county] That seems risky.
[gurl] but he wanted to go drinking and sleep with other women
[county] I should find a rich, devoted wife.
[county] Having one could be convenient.
[gurl] it was the only thing that saved him
[county] Some guys have all the luck.
[bc] hehe
[gurl] i am sure bc would happily arrange for you to acquire a wealthy wife
[bc] it's true. There's a lucky sod I know who's wife is a civil engineer making tons of cash. All he does is footer about spending her money on computers and crap. They love each other very much and seem very happy. Sickening, it is.
[county] Yeah, I need someone to take care of me!
[county] I'm tired of being responsible.
[bc] BRB, mobile shop
[gurl] have a beer
[gurl] actually, have five or six
[county] What's a mobile shop?
[county] Anyway, that's too many beers.
[gurl] well, however many will intoxicate you
[gurl] women like to help men in that state
[county] Haha!
[county] What nonsense.
[county] Women hate drunks.
[gurl] depends on the drunk boy
[gurl] i find some of them endearing
[bc] damn it's cold
[county] Well, what do you expect? Your house was built before heat was invented
[county] What's a mobile shop, though?
[bc] I am an endearing drunk boy. My cold reserve melts away, revealing a vulnerable and heartbreakingly fascinating character. I find that women are much more interested in me when drunk, than when sober.
[county] uh huh
[bc] county, a shop on wheels that drives around selling things. It parks outside my front door
[county] What sort of things?
[bc] in this instance, I got dunhills and Irn Bru, and a bottle of Gin
[county] So you've gone back to the bottle.
[county] tsk tsk.
[bc] all sorts, county. There are many of them, in fact. Soem are mobile butchers, others mobile grocers and fishmongers. This one sells everyday necessities
[county] Like I said, though, some guys have all the luck. When sober, I'm undesirable. When intoxicated, I'm undesirable in a different way.
[county] Everyday necessities like dunhills, Irn Bru, and gin.
[bc] Yup.
[county] dunhills sound like cigarettes. What's Irn Bru?
[bc] they sell what's sold most in the local community
[bc] county: http://www.bevnet.com/reviews/irn-bru/index.asp
[gurl] what's a good poll topick before i hotfoot it elsewhere?
[bc] poll? hmmn
[county] I don't think I've ever seen any of that, bc.
[bc] favourite spirit?
[gurl] irn bru is only in scotland
[county] That would be all you can think of.
[bc] county, well, it is actually illegal in the US, the FDA won't allow it to be sold there
[bc] so it isn't surprising
[county] gurl, "Favorite condiment to lick off nipples?"
[bc] it contains too much iron, or something
[county] Be sure to include horseradish as an option.
[wsl3] county: Hot Thai Red Curry
[bc] it's very very popular in russia though
[Captain_Tenille] What on earth is it? And why is it illegal?
[bc] ct, it's just a soft drink. It's illegal cos the FDA don't like it's iron content
[wsl3] What is?
[Captain_Tenille] Ah
[gurl] man, i suppose i am not cut out for daytime drinking
[gurl] my tummy hurts now
[wsl3] gurl: Have some nice cock. That should solve the problem, but only if you get all the way down and get the protien suprise at the end.
[gurl] i don't see how
[gurl] protein makes my tummy hurt
[wsl3] They'll cancel each other out.
[gurl] i somehow doubt this.
[gurl] i love my diary.
[wsl3] Nah, I can show you if you want!
[county] Give up, wsl3. The fact is, you can only score with fatties.
[wsl3] give it up county, the fact is, I don't care what you think.
[county] That doesn't make any sense, idiot. I wasn't trying to influence your opinion.
[bc] I love your diary too, gurl =)))
[gurl] hehe
[wsl3] county: Uh huh.
[gurl] there is nothing wrong with fatties, if they have attractive features
[gurl] and don't look like useless lumps of crap
[wsl3] Bingo!
* wsl3 is a FFA
[gurl] fatty fucker anonymous?
[wsl3] LOL
[wsl3] FFA == Fullfigured Female Admirer
[gurl] oh god
[county] Vlad's fatties look like useless lumps of crap, gurl.
[gurl] i HATE those
[wsl3] county is a useless lump of crap
[county] These women aren't fat, gurl, they're disgustingly hyper-obese.
[wsl3] gurl - hate what? Voluptous women?
[county] 300lbs.
[gurl] a girl can be voluptuous without being heavy
[bc] FFA give BBWs TLC and have a GSOH
[county] A three hundred pound woman isn't voluptuous.
[county] She's hyper-obese.
[wsl3] county: I know lots of attractive 300lb women.
[gurl] no, that's a porker
[gurl] i don't know any.
[county] You don't know any!
[county] You're delusional.
[wsl3] Depends - what if she's like 6' tall?
[gurl] and i know some decent looking big girls
[gurl] then she shouldn't exceed 250
[wsl3] gurl: Top size?
[gurl] and that only if she is super muscular
[wsl3] gurl: Nah - I've seen women as high as 400lbs that I'd do.
[gurl] well, men are less picky about that
[county] I'm not.
[county] I'm not interested in girls much over 150.
[gurl] well, that leaves the taller ones out
[gurl] unless they are very slim
[Captain_Tenille] Tall girls are overrated
[wsl3] gurl: That depends - in general I don't find a woman attractive under 175 or so unless she is stunningly beautiful and has a personallity to match.
[Captain_Tenille] *under* 175?
[gurl] that is a shame for you, wsl3
[county] I don't much like taller girls, gurl.
[wsl3] under, yes.
[gurl] i personally think too many people are heavy
[county] Much beyond 5'6" is too tall, I think.
* Captain_Tenille 's gf is 5'
[wsl3] gurl: I don't find it a shame at all! I have a full, active, loving sex life, thank you very much.
[gurl] but that said, i don't mind heavy people who don't whine about it
[gurl] of course you do
* wsl3 doesn't whine - he has no cheese to go with it.
[gurl] i know lots of plain couples that can't get enough of each other
[Captain_Tenille] Off to get a hair cut.
[Captain_Tenille] Ta ta.
[gurl] which is great for them
[gurl] hasta
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[bc] woohoo
[bc] there's nothing wrong with plain people. Or even ugly people, if they are self confident enough and interesting and especially good natured enough
[gurl] ok, i have to fix someone's cd rom
[bc] happy hacking!
[gurl] well, that is true of anyone
[county] Aye, and there's the rub, bc.
[gurl] there is no hacking involved!
[county] It's easier to become beautiful than it is to become interesting or good natured.
[gurl] it's purely a mechanical issue
[county] If one isn't already.
[bc] you are fixing a technical computer device
[gurl] bof, i am fixing a thingy with serrated wheels
[bc] with what, you say?
[bc] that sounds complicated
[gurl] little wheels with chopped bits
[county] A serrated wheel? Isn't that a gear?
[bc] I'm a man, I don't understand technical things, I just leave it to women
[gurl] yeah, i guess
[gurl] two little gears that aren't spinning the drive out
[county] Well, get that cute little can of yours over there and start fixing things!
[county] Chop chop!
[gurl] i have to finish my beer
[gurl]
[county] bc, what should I do with myself today?
[bc] I think you should go to the pub
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[county] It's kind of dismal out.
[bc] and drink beer, play darts, and watch the match
[cdromgurl] yes, do go, since i cannot
[cdromgurl] wave
[bc] that's why I didn't suggest the park, county
[bc] bye happy hackess!
[county] I don't know where any pubs are. In fact, I think they're illegal in Seattle.
[bc] http://www.nwbrewpage.com/wabpubs/WestSea.html
[bc] go there
[wsl3] lol
[bc] though I must say, the huge billboard sign at the front puts me off
[bc] here, they just have a tiny sign
[bc] I suppose Americans insist on the 25foot billboard treatment
[county] That's really far away.
[bc] get the metro then!
[county] Anyway, going to a pub is way too social.
[bc] you don't need to talk to anyone
[bc] clearly, you aren't very familiar with pubs at all
[bc] they can be profoundly antisocial
[county] Of course I don't, but I feel odd being out by myself.
[county] There isn't any point in going out to be anti-social.
[wsl3] Go nude. That will get some attention.
[county] Shut up.
[wsl3] no
[wsl3] You can forget about that.
[wsl3] If I'm in front of my computer, and I see something I want to respond to, I will - same as you.
[county] Shut up, really.
[wsl3] No.
[wsl3] really.
[bc] blargle
[wsl3] bc: What's new with Kip? Has anyone seen him?
[bc] heis in London, that's all I know
[county] I'm going to go shower.
[county] When I come back, I'm going to have some booze, a pastrami sandwich, and pour at my innermost hopes and dreams.
[county] "out"
[wsl3] ah
[bc] looking forward to it
[wsl3] Well, I'll be quite for that.
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[Sulla] hey momo
From: cptroll
1 217&cid=501) with a 95% accurate comment about how tort reforms during the '60s tolled the death knell of contract law in favor of strict liability for product manufacturers. The 5% fantasy part was the bit at the end:
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: [k22320inchfan] slashdot psychology:
Date sent: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 23:45:41 -0400
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0033)
Not to inject an actual troll discussion into Careertalk, but... how can their brains work this way?
I got into the @Home article really late (http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=00/10/25/213
"For the most part, that's entirely justified, but it does produce odd results from time to time, like when an auto company was recently sued successfully because their cars didn't prevent consumers from locking their infants in the car on a hot day, forgetting they were there, and coming back to find a thoroughly asphyxiated baby."
It proved not to be too late to get a response, however. A fellow named jetson123 chimed in with his thoughts and added at the end:
"Usually, when you follow up on these stories, you'll find that there is quite a bit of justification for the judgement. (In this case, I suspect this refers to a design flaw many US cars have that makes it unnecessarily easy to accidentally lock yourself out.)"
HOW CAN THEIR BRAINS WORK THIS WAY?!?! What does he think happens? The parent accidentally locks himself out of the car and watches helplessly as his baby roasts to death inside? Too lazy to break the damn window? I clearly stated that the parent *forgot* that the kid was there. Or is that part of the "design flaw" too?
Sheesh.
(This is CP0033)
From: Ceee Peee
/ 1/3/22048/19424&mode=mod
0 /10/08/stifgneur01002.html). Lots of potential, and ideas are welcome. (I already have a link to a story about an Egyptian sacrificial ram chasing its owner off a roof.)
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: [k22320inchfan] you know the drill
Date sent: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 00:38:57 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0011)
Gimme some juice:
http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=displaystory;sid=2001
erate
Actually, it's bound to get modded up on its own because: 1) it's controversial but hardly a troll 2) it conforms to k5 groupthink as a topic for discussion and 3) it has jsm's blessing, something none of Anne Marie's previous submissions ever had. The only thing it has going against it is an annoying misspelling of "K/Clan" in KKK for good measure.
Mostly, I'm just cleansing the k5 pallate for tomorrow's big troll submission: Switzerland has a referendum to give animals human rights (http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/200
(This is CP0011)
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[bc_dvd] bye
[momocrome] hi
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[county] Hi and bye to all of you, as appropriate.
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[county] cyndrekit, hello.
[cyndrekit] hello county
[cyndrekit] did bc actually get a dvd?
[cyndrekit] I am shocked.
[cyndrekit]
[county] I wonder what it is.
[me0w] Hello
[county] Greetings, me0w.
[me0w] Good day
[cyndrekit] hi hi
[em] http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/02
[cyndrekit] is there a story to go with it?
[em] yes
[cyndrekit] oh cool, found it
[em] the photo is just too cool.
* momocrome moans
[momocrome] too much drunk for one night
[county] It's not night!
[me0w] Soon it will be.
[momocrome] oh last night's what I mean
[county] You didn't seem that drunk.
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[wsl3] Has anyone in here actually had a child?
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[wsl3] Has anyone in here actually had a child?
[me0w] I have a cat
[me0w] She's kind of like a child.
[bc] hello!
[me0w] hi!
[bc] damn, missed cyn
[bc] that film was great
[county] What was it?
[bc] it was "Contact", county
[bc] I liked the way it explored revelatory experiences
[county] Have I mentioned that I've nursed an infatuation for Jodie Foster?
[bc] and scepticism as opposed to faith
[bc] you know what? I was just thinking about that
[county] About what?
[bc] I never really used to like her, because she seems quite sharp nosed and hard faced, in that way
[bc] but now, well, now I see. She seemed so vulnerable in that film
[county] I like well-defined faces.
[county] I can see why her's might be too sharp for you, though.
[bc] and you just wanted to protect her against the world
[momocrome] i hate kitten, but I am hung over and foggy headed
[bc] it is quite sharp, but I see beyond that now
[county] I like faces with character, not just formless fleshy masses, that so many other girls seem to have.
[county] Don't hate kitten, momocrome.
[county] There's no point.
[county] I just don't understand how he thinks he's different than the people he's always railing on.
[county] It's really funny, actually.
[bc] hehe
[bc] it's true, county
[bc] he constantly moans about people being "arrogant", or "narrow minded"
[county] I try to point it out now and then, but he just doesn't see it.
[bc] and you think "whaaa?"
[county] I think stouts are my favorite.
[bc] kitten is the most narrow minded & arrogant chap on the internet
[me0w] I am going out drinking tonight.
[county] One of my bus infatuations, the one who was being picked on, has a somewhat sharp face.
[county] Actually, I love her face.
[bc] I hope you have a voice of reason, me0w
[county] It's pretty, but not beautiful, by normal standards.
[county] But it just looks so carefully crafted, somehow.
[bc] is the sharp faced bus infatuation the same girl as the one with the limp?
[county] It looks like someone wanted her face to look just like that, and they invested endless time in carefully crafting it.
[county] You know what I mean?
[me0w] bc: I do, although this voice of reason is a little suspect
[county] (No, the limping girl is someone else, and she doesn't generally limp.)
[bc] why me0w, is this voice of reason American or something? I know you hate Americans. An American Voice of Reason would probably advice you to lick the most repugnant people in the room, as retaliation.
[bc] county: yes, I do know
[bc] interesting faces are nice
[county] When I see her, I want to hold her face in my hands and kiss it.
[county] But that's not a polite thing to do on a bus.
[county] You're wrong about us American's, bc. An American voice of reason wouldn't feel any ill will toward me0w, despite her hatred.
[bc] get to know her first, and do it later. Have her melt
[county] It would just feel sadness and hurt.
[county] "Americans"
[Sylvain] hey bc
[bc] county, my impression of Americans is that they are friendly and kind, and idealistic, but that if you cross them they take a just vengeance
[bc] hey em
[county] Cross us, yes. Simply hating us but doing nothing about it is not crossing us.
[bc] that seems fair enough
[bc] though who knows, me0w yank-hatred is such that it wouldn't surprise me to find she has crossed the line
[me0w] bc: this voice of reason has been my friend since HS, and on several occasions, while I was not quite in the right fram of mind, he got me to do silly things.
[county] It's mean and hurtful, yes, but that's not enough. We Americans only retaliate when actual harm is done.
[me0w] I do not have individual-yank hatred.
[county] I hope she hasn't crossed the line. America's wrath is great toward those who hurt her.
[bc] he sounds like a splendid chap, me0w. He should tell you to lick a lovely, yooung 16yo with lots of acne
[me0w] bc: He would tell me to go and make out with girls.
[bc] what?? That's only because he gets off on it himself, the weirdo perv
[county] Lesbian sex must be the least arousing thing in existence.
[bc] agreed, county, but I understand many chaps find it appealing
[county] But oh, man.
[county] This is nice.
[bc] generally ones with supressed homosexual urges themselves, I understand
[county] I have that warm, content feeling that comes with a few boozes and just finishing a delicious salami and pepper jack sandwich.
[bc] I want to have faith in something
[bc] I don't know what, but it seems to make people happy
[bc] so it must be worth a shot
[me0w] He likes to make me do these things and take pictures
[bc] he's sounding more&more sick
[county] What sort of things?
[me0w] He teases my SO with the pictures.
[county] I'm only asking so we can get a good idea of how sick he is.
[bc] "teases"? If I had a gf who french kissed girls in strange clubs, and a friend who took pictures of this and then showed them to me, I'd be jolly well angry, and likely explode in anger and start shouting at people
[bc] It takes all sorts, eh county
[county] I wouldn't want a girl that french kisses other girls.
[Sylvain] is it just me, or has this channel become too serious?
[county] This channel is a joke, Sylvain.
[bc] Sylvain, it's great. Since the regulars left, the channel has become more&more&more fun
[county] I like this channel. It's a lot of bullshit, a lot of heartfelt confession, and a lot of fighting.
[county] I can't think how it could be improved.
[bc] that's pretty much why I like it. What makes it tolerable is that a lot of the time, you can't really tell which is which
[county] For example, I quite like my online relationship with luisa.
[bc] serious? or bullshit? serious fight? bullshit fight? confession or or bullshit? fight? mixing it up to cause a fight? Who can tell.
[county] It's all fighting mixed with lies and truths.
[bc] I hope ubu has extensive logs of #kuro5hin
[bc] actually, do you, county?
[bc] going back a year or so?
[county] Well, I log whenever I'm in there.
[bc] I wish to find something
[county] I should point out that I've only been online for a month or so.
[bc] yes, but I understand you are friendly with someone who was here before, it was just on the offchance he gave you his logs
[county] Well, I have #k5 logs going back over a year, yes.
[bc] what size are they when zipped up would you guess?
[bc] nothing vast, right? not 50mb or something absurd?
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[bc] hello dmg
[dmg] whassup bc
[Sylvain] hey dmg
[bc] not much
[dmg] hey sylvain
[bc] I just watched "contact" dmg, which has led me to believe I need faith in my life.
[county] I have a bit over 100mb of #k5 logs, bc.
[bc] em probably hates that film, for its inclusion of arecibo and the airbrushing out of native 'Ricans, only mentioned in passing for their superstitious beliefs about the telescope
[bc] crap, that's loads county
[bc] bugger it
[dmg] contact ? Is that with whatshername from silence of th e lambs
[Sylvain] superstitious beliefs indeed
[bc] yes dmg
[dmg] I dont like her voice
[Sylvain] the visiting scientists don't leave ALL that much money as they think
[county] Silence, dmg.
[county] She is my infatuation of the moment.
[bc] yes. She was mine first though
[bc] I spent the film marvelling at her vulnerability
[county] I liked her before you watched the film, bastard!
[dmg] you would like "the accused" then...
[dmg] she is more vulnerable in that.
[dmg] I just cannot stand her voice
[bc] She only came to my notice during the film, really. She fits the archetype that I like in women, so it can be said that I have always liked her, as long as I have been alive.
[dmg] eurrgh
[county] Her voice, or her accent?
[dmg] her voive
[dmg] voice
[dmg] it just annoysh me
[county] I never found it annoying.
[county] hmm.
[dmg] itsh sho annoying
[bc] I like it. It seems to have a nice burr
[me0w] My SO's drunken sister keeps messaging me. =/
[bc] she's like a female sean connery
[dmg] bc: exactly
[dmg] she shertainly ish
[bc] me0w, give her my aim and tell her to msg me
[county] Have her msg me.
[bc] I think I'd enjoy talking to a drunken woman!
[me0w] bc: She is on Y!
[dmg] get her on #adequacy
[county] I want a drunk girl to torment.
[county] ARGH
[bc] that's okay, I'm on yahoo too me0w
[me0w] I don't think she knows how to irc.
[county] I WANT A DRUNK GIRL TO TORMENT SO MUCH
[me0w] She does use that horrible habbo hotel junk
[county] Huh?
[bc] trillian just connected me to aim, yahoo, msn and icq. Now tell her to msg me! My ID on yahoo is tinyp3a. DO IT.
[bc] I WANT TO TORMENT COUNTY SO MUCH
[county] ]:(
[me0w] Be nice
[county] I am a fragile angel.
[me0w] she is my future sister-in-law
[bc] I'm always nice
[dmg] trillian can connect to msn ?
[dmg] wow!
[dmg] I never realised that.
[county] bc steals every woman I want.
[county] Every one
[me0w] bc, I gave her your id
[bc] wow!
[bc] she really is drunk
[Sylvain] paste example
[dmg] bc is from www.girlfriendstealers.com
[county] dmg, he did steal my girlfriend.
[county] Actually.
[dmg] http://www.girlfriendstealer.com/
[bc] [censored]: helloo?1
[bc] tinyp3a: hello!
[bc] [censored]: howw s u?
[county] I can't believe I forgave him for that.
[me0w] bc, please keep in mind that she is only 17
[dmg] women come and go.
[county] dmg, I loved her!
[county] And bc stole her
[dmg] those are the breaks.
[dmg] bc is irresistible to women.
[dmg] he is like Sam Sloan in that respect
* Sylvain looks at a list of ebay sections, notices "charity"
[county] Yeah. And when I cut his hands and feet of, burn his face off with acide, and leave him to die, those will be the breaks, eh?
[dmg] well yes.
[county] "acid"
[dmg] bc takes full responsibility for his actions.
[bc] [censored]: LoL AWW U SHOULDA!!
[dmg] he is an anarcho-capitalist libertarian
* bc ROFL
[dmg] who was this woman anyway ?
[dmg] she cannot have been in love with you if she let bc steal her away
[county] me0w's SO's sister.
[bc] county, I asked to speak to her first
[bc] so I didn't steal her at all
[bc] she is verrry drunk
[county] I thought of it first, bc, but my intoxication is slowing down my typing.
[Sylvain] bc: i don't think that will appease county's perception of entitledness.
[county] Ask her for naked pictures of Jin Wicked, bc.
[dmg] I have some of those
[county] Yeah? Lucky you.
[dmg] she keeps crapflooding my mailbox with them
[dmg] attention-seeker.
[county] She's a pain, in that respect.
[county] And every other respect.
[dmg] its like,
[county] With no respect.
[dmg] stop spamming me with nude photos.
[dmg] If I wanted to see that sort of thing I would get a girlfriend.
[county] I want to see it, and I can't get a girlfriend.
[county] You're attractive, confident, and wordly.
[Sylvain] dmg: you'd get a girlfriend to see nude *photos*?
[county] I'm a geeky pud.
[dmg] no if I wanted to see nude women
[dmg] Id get a girlfriend
[county] Or you'd just sleep around. Slut.
[dmg] aha the old double standard
[county] Not all nude women were created equal, though.
[dmg] we are all equal in the eyes of Allah (SWT) apart from the Infidels
*** dmg is now known as Abu_Nidal
[county] There's only one girl I want to see naked, actually.
[bc] damn
[bc] she's too drunk to realise that when I say I'm living under a glacier, I'm joking
* me0w giggles
*** Abu_Nidal is now known as dmg
[dmg] Scotland is an icy barren wasteland though, bc
[me0w] time for showering
[dmg] she could be forgiven
[Sylvain] bc maybe that's not drunkenness.
[bc] also, she speaks like a black Londoner with hyper estuary english
[Sylvain] it's perhaps stupidity augmented by adolescence and drunkenness.
[dmg] hold on one moment. if she is 17 and drunk, is she not guilty of an offence ????
[Sylvain] nope.
[dmg] Should not we be reporting her to the authorities
[dmg] ???
[dmg] or the person who supplied the alcohol
[bc] LOL
[Sylvain] somebody else is
[dmg] In the UK the alcohol age is 5
[dmg] for consumption in the home
[county] You must be kidding.
[dmg] how enlightened compared to our other stupid laws.
[dmg] no, its 5
[dmg] seriously
[county] Why have an age at all?
[dmg] Ill find a web page if I can to PROVE it
[county] Yeah, because web pages are always right!
[bc] she's away now
[bc] [censored]: BywebYE!!
[bc] which is sort of a relief
[bc] hehe
[county] I bet you got lots of fantastic drunken cybersex ]:(
[bc] don't be revolting county
[bc] I am a people person
[dmg] http://www.icap.org/pdf/report4updated.pdf
[bc] people interest me, and I like to find out all about them
[bc] there is no other motivation
[county] I'm not going to try to read through a pdf in this condition.
[dmg] one moment
[dmg] fucking cut-n-paste doesn't work
[county] I think I'd like another salami sandwish
[dmg] In bars and off-licensed premises the MDA and MPA are 18. The MPA for
[dmg] beer and cider is 16 when purchased for consumption with meals
[dmg] (except when in a bar). Children over five may consume alcoholic
[dmg] beverages at home with their parent's consent.
[bc] pdf sucks
[dmg] basically if you have cool parents you can get pissed once you start infant school
[dmg] but if you are over 18 and want to drink after 11pm, you are shit out of luck
[dmg] its a contradiction to be sure...
[Sylvain] there are some exceptions to alcohol laws here in USia IIRC
[Sylvain] e.g. it's allowed to give a child some wine if required by a religious ritual
[dmg] * In 19 states alcohol consumption by youth under 21 is not specifically
[dmg] illegal.
[dmg] ** Exceptions to the 21 law in some states include possession for
[dmg] religious purposes when accompanied by a parent, spouse or legal
[dmg] guardian; medical reasons; in private clubs or establishments; in the
[dmg] course of lawful employment by a duly licensed manufac
[Sylvain] e.g. catholic communion frequently involves a bit of wine.
[bc] I remember when I first got drunk
[bc] I thought "I want to spend the rest of my days in this condition"
[bc] it was a revelation
[bc] I think I have found my faith already
[dmg] I was about four when I first got drunk. on Babycham believe it or not. My mum did not realise it was alcoholic
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[bc] I had a good swig of scotdch when I was 6 months old and got drunk
[bc] that was quite impressive. I saw the glass of double scotch, grasped it in two hands, and swigged it right down
[bc] well, I can't in truth remember if it got be drunk, or anything about it at all, but I'm sure it must've
[dmg] thats pretty funny
[dmg] you could have died however.
[Sylvain] he wouldn't have understood it.
[bc] nah, I took it like a baby
[Sylvain] no trauma for him
[Sylvain] what's the problem with dying when you're a perfectly innocent being?
[Sylvain] it's only when we grow old and come to appreciate that life is valuable that we have a problem with it
[county] I am a perfectly innocent being.
[dmg] what about original sin ?
[Sylvain] 16:31 [ county] I WANT A DRUNK GIRL TO TORMENT SO MUCH
[bc] you'll note he didn't actually do it, em
[bc] county has control of his desires
[county] I actually don't even think I wrote that.
* Sylvain sings: Nwel a rive pou nou pa pedi lespwa nou!
[county] The wind has really picked up here.
[county] It's almost violent.
[dmg] im going to bed
[dmg] its past my bedtime
* bc bought a bottle of Appleston Estate 40 year old today,Sylvain
[dmg] bloody IRC
[bc] night dmg!
[dmg] night night everyone
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[county] What's that, bc?
[Sylvain] bc: wow.
[bc] it's an excellent rum
[Sylvain] how much was it?
[bc] a bloody fortune
[Sylvain] fuck. the oldest rum i've ever had is 12 years.
[county] Ah, a rum.
[Sylvain] any words on how good it is beyond "excellent"?
[county] The oldest rum I've had was also 12 years.
[bc] it tastes nice. Older rums seem to become more whiskyish, somehow, it is hard to explain
[bc] much more complex
[county] Now you just need some forty year old coke.
[bc] it is aged in the tropics, too
[bc] apparantly that means it ages more rapidly
[bc] at about 3x the rate of a spirit aged in, say, canada
[bc] anyway, I don't know. It tastes very nutty, somehow
[Sylvain] but how expensive was it?
[bc] em: £10,000
[bc] http://www.canoe.ca/LifewiseFoodWine01/0314_winew
[Sylvain] yeah, right, like you have 15,795.99 USD
[bc]
[bc] it's really nice with coke though!
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*** bc was kicked by Sylvain (Trolling is strictly forbidden in this channel.)
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[bc]
[bc] wouldn't that be lovely though?
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[bc] I'd be scared to drink it
[bc] hey iat!
[iat] hey bc
[iat] whassup bc?
[bc] not much
[bc] how's the online dating scene going? =)
[iat] i finally got rid of my woman. she came to get rid of her shit from my flat this evening. i'm getting pissed and then tomorrow im gonna get on with my life
* county sighs
[bc] dmg was telling me about it, er, your troubles with her
* county weeps
[iat] dmg said you're coming to london next month
[iat] heh, someone gave her rohypnol last night!
[county] That's horrible.
[iat] i don't know who would be fucked up enough to waste good rohypnol on her
[bc] did he? He's wrong. I was going to, but something disastrous happened. I may come in January, but not december, that's been off for ages due to commitments
[iat] bah, we all want to meet you
[iat] what did dmg say about me/it/her?
[bc] hehe. I'll come down sooner or later
[bc] he was talking about how you met her on match.com (!)
[bc] which reminds me, I have to search march.com insanely to find her
[iat] yeah, it's either that or start fucking my secretary. i saw it as the lesser of two evils
[me0w] bc, And how was she?
[bc] there really can't be that many overweight, red headed, goth girls from london on mach.com
[iat] you'd be surprised
[county] No more than twenty or so, I'd guess.
[bc] me0w: very drunk. Spoke in estuary english. Seemed good natured though, through the disgraceful mists of her underage drinking
[iat] btw, you forgot moustachiod
[iat] otoh, there are no biologists with pds living in edinburgh on match
[bc]
[county] Why on earth did you even have anything to do with her, iat?
[bc] I found one I liked on match.com
[me0w] bc, She is a nice girl
[iat] county: i wanted to get my redhead fetish out of the way
[bc] but I'm not showing her to you iat, you'd steal her
[iat] i wasn;t sure if the "ginger pubes" thing was a liberal myth
[me0w] bc, I think there is a picture of her in my gallery
[iat] of course i'd steal her, i'm a stud
[bc] heh me0w. She seemed nice. Drunk for sure, drunk as a Lord, it was terrifically amusing
[me0w] bc, Unfortunately her typing doesn't get much better
[iat] bc: where's your bondage pr0n collection stored on aq?
[county] A stud? You seem like a poorer middle class fellow, somewhat on the ugly side.
[iat] upper middle class, only slightly ugly thank you
[iat] but, i am hung like a mouse
[iat] emr, moose
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[Sulla] me0w, are you trying to say that she mayn't have been drunk at all, or was only tipsy, and that she isn't really too different when sober?
[Sulla] iat: I forget. I never look at it, and it isn't "my collection"
[me0w] bc, She was drunk.
[iat] whose collection is it then?
[me0w] bc, But when she is sober I often have a dificult time understanding what she is saying.
[Sulla] it is me0ws and I put it there cos perdida wanted it for some story relating to 80's bdsm pornography for her site
[me0w] bc, she likes to type in some sort of sms speak
[Sulla] hehe
[Sulla] that would explain whey she says "da" for "the"
[me0w] bc, ahaha you still have those pictures?
[iat] who is me0w anyway? there's all these new faces since i last frewuented #aq?
[Sulla] me0w yes, and embrassingly, someone posted the link into my diary and made all sorts of insinuations
[Sulla] mind you, since I've claimed to be a rapist on k5 before it isn't like I can sink much lower
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[iat] anyway bc, you never told me where you keep it
[me0w] bc, and they weren't even good pictures
[Sulla] iat, me0w is this bird wot came here from #k5 who is quite nice and stuff, though canadian (french)
[county] Does me0w speak french?
[Sulla] iat, I'll look out the url
[iat] i work with a REAL french canadian, her mother's french and her father's canadian. she's never been near "french candian" territory
[county] Sulla, so you really do have a bondage porn collection?
[county] I thought that was myth.
[Sulla] http://www.adequacy.org/images/bc/violate.me.uk/p
[Sulla] it's not my fucking collection!
[Sulla] jesus H christ
[me0w] bc, you know, I've never actually looked at all of them
[county] Yeah, whatever.
[iat] it appears to be quite a copmorehensive collection bc
[Sulla] there are perfectly legitimate reasons the pics are there
[county] So you find this appealing, bc? http://www.adequacy.org/images/bc/violate.me.uk/p
[Sulla] me0w, neither have I
[Sulla] I just looked at some funny 80's ones
[me0w] bc, I looked at the ones that perdida pointed out
[Sulla] http://www.adequacy.org/images/bc/violate.me.uk/p
[Sulla] I'm sorry, that makes me laugh and laugh
[county] These are amusing and sexy at the same time. I love it!
[Sulla] anyway, when I can be bothered, I'll delete the whole lot
[me0w] bc, was there a series of hunchback pictures?
[Sulla] yes me0w
[Sulla] the "bonk" series
[Sulla] http://www.adequacy.org/images/bc/violate.me.uk/p
[Sulla] that's also pretty damned hilarious
[county] I'll give you $728 for all these pictures, Sulla.
[Sulla] some of them are funny, but all the rest are just crude and nasty
[Sulla] county, it's a deal!
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[county] Fantastic!
[bc] I love the leer on the guy's face
[bc] so cheesy
[me0w] county, I could just mail you the cd they came from
[bc] that's a nice offer, eh county? You should accept
[county] The truth is, I like nothing more than pictures of bound and tormented women.
[county] However, I prefer not to post my mailing address in the channel.
[bc] then msg it to me0w
[county] Msg? I don't know what you mean by that.
[bc] liar
[county] Oh, that hurts
[bc] iat has gone quite quiet since I posted the link, eh?
[bc] I wonder what he is doing?
[iat] heh
[me0w] Wanking?
[iat] smoking and drinking
[county] I'm wanking.
[county] How could I not?
[county] All these photographs of naked women tied up!
[county] It's paradise, from my perspective.
[iat] i love smoking
[iat] i just wish it didn't cost so much
[bc] I thought you were a health freak?
[iat] not these days
[bc] good move
[bc] welcome to the "cool set"
[iat] the pressures of work have turned me into a nicotine-fuelled anorexic
[county] I have never, ever smoked.
[county] I probably should.
[bc] you'd like it
[iat] i have never, ever smoked crack
[bc] everybody with an addictive personality should have many addictions
[county] I don't have an addictive personality.
[bc] You do. Oh god you do.
[bc] You are always looking for a hit
[county] Explain!
[county] I'm addicted to little.
[county] Just alcohol and that girl from work's ass.
[bc] you don't just talk to people. You have angles, you attack and duck and weave, you seek the high of torture and humiliation of others in everything you say
[county] No
[county] Not others, women.
[county] I only want to hurt females.
[county] Please keep that straight.
[bc] You do it to vlad often enough, phoneboy
[me0w] I dunno what to wear
[county] Oh, that's different.
[iat] bc: will you stop saying "humiliation"? the "iat" bit interrupts my mp3s by making acidmax make sounds
[bc] hehe, okay iat, I didn't realise I said humiliation so often
[county] My motivation for tormenting vlad is entriely different than my motivation for tormenting, say, luisa.
[bc] me0w, wear leather and stuff
[bc] I don't know
[county] me0w, dress chastly.
[county] It's incredibly sexy.
[bc] me0w, wear a denim skirt with a sort of white lacery around the pockets that looks lovely and homely, and a black t-shirt above that is slinky and just has strap things over the shoulders so it is more of a dress, really.
[bc] let your hair hang down forward over your bosom, to each side, following the contours perfectly
[me0w] bc, I don't own any denim skirts
[me0w] and I only have a leather corset
[bc] hmmmn
[county] I told you, me0w.
[iat] bc: what happened to your general knwoledge bot?
[county] Dress chastly.
[county] It will draw guys like you can't believe.
[bc] wear a turqoise top, that is very close fitting and very slightly see-through, revealing a white bra underneath on the edge of awareness, and making men think you are less calculating and more genuine than those other dolled up girls. Underneath, wear black trousers that are practical looking though ladylike, covered in pockets
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[bc] iat: It's on my hard drive. I got bored with it and moved onto other things
[county] The white bra is a good idea.
[iat] what are you coding now, j00 1337 hax0r j00?
[me0w] bc, I don't own a turqoise top
[county] When I see a white bra, my instinct is to assume it was displayed on accident, becuause my tendancy is to feel white-bra-clad people are pure and innocent.
[me0w] and I don't know if I have a white bra
[county] ]:(
[me0w] wait wait
[me0w] I found a white bra
[bc] I'm writing a new peer2peer filesharing system that will specialise in text, pdf and html documents that the man would like to keep down. it will allow you to search for strings inside the text body, and return results, google like, that show the context
[bc] zool me0w!
[county] she had a blue bra, it was lovely. I hate it now, though I loved it then!
[bc] okay, do you have any slightly see-through tops at all?
[county] Oh god, she looked lovely in it.
[bc] what we are going for here is the thrown-on, unsophisticated but lovely look
[me0w] I have a whole collection of see through wear
[me0w] but I don't think it would be appropriate for the places I'm going this evening
[county] "see-through" should be hyphenated.
[iat] bc "the man" doensn't care about text files
[bc] bugger appropriate. Look like a lost fawn in the wilderness
[bc] he does, iat, more than any other media
[iat] approprIATe interrupts my mp3s. plz stop tnx
[me0w] these pants require a thong
[bc] my filesharing network will have terrorist plans, blueprints, and government leaks and such
[bc] and books
[iat] no-one will use it for anything other than war3zing books
[bc] I will provide that service. It's more than a filesharing network, I intend it to be a peer-2-peer knowledge base sort of deal
[bc] you can do context searches and it will return a few paeges or a chapter from a book say
[bc] and it will allow a wikipedia type self editing bit
[iat] how long have you been programming?
[bc] but everything will be peer-2-peer, the whole encyclopaedia
[iat] aargh, not wikipedia!
[bc] not like that, but that's the model. Imagine a wikipaedia not located on any machine, but spread across a peer-2-peer netowrk. it could hold the Truth, regardless of what government or corporate law tries
[bc] it's a powerful concept for political and informational insurgency
[iat] there is no TRUTH
[bc] you state that like it is a truth
[bc] well, it's not!
[iat] of course
[iat] there is not truth... even to say that is not true... but to say its not true is also not true
[bc] it won't hold any particular truth, many truths and narratives
[bc] it shall be thoroughly decentralised and beyond the control of anyone, that is the point
[county] Quite right, bc. There are many truths, in this modern age.
[bc] must smoke
[iat] why not smoke then?
[bc] I'm ahead of you, iat
[iat] i've smoked 19 since 7:30 and have just 1 left
[bc] wow that's lots
[county] are there just 20 in a pack/:?
[iat] yeah, how many did you think there were?
[bc] yes, unless you get Rothman's Royals
[iat] oh yeah
[bc] which have 24, for some reason
[county] iat, I've never smoked.
[iat] or 10 packs, but you can't get those in usia
[bc] just think iat, if you had got Royals, you'd have 5 left now
[iat] heh
[me0w] I have a favour to ask
[iat] but they wouldn't taste half as nice as mmy marlboro lights
[bc] what's that me0w?
[bc] yuk
[me0w] bc, I need an opinion
[bc] I don't like Marlboro lights. I'm a Dunhill man
[me0w] bc, you know what my site currently looks like right?
[bc] yes
[bc] yes I do
[iat] dunhill?
[me0w] bc, ok
[bc] I browse it every 20 minutes
[iat] dunhill are for poor people, eight?
[iat] erm, right even
[bc] they are not for poor people
[bc] just the opposite
[iat] heh
[iat] my marlboro light costs me 4.70 a pack
[iat] beat that
[bc] this one has a more traditional bloggy feel me0w, but won't it mean the front page won't change as radically so often? I suppose I like it better in that you can see the previous articles, but less in that the front page doesn't periodically change radically, so that you don't know what will appear. It's prolly more sensible though
[bc] also, the right hand side seems wider somehow
[bc] mine cost £4.95
[bc] suck it!
[bc] and that's without inflated london prices
[iat] bah
[bc] it must be the pics making the right wider
[iat] that's stupid
[me0w] bc, the pics do make it wider
[iat] are dunhills those ones that have the wide packets that don't fit in your pocket?
[me0w] bc, this new system is a modifed blogger
[bc] those are dunhill internationals, iat, which I often get too, and are about £5.40
[iat] i know a gay guy who smokes the methol ones of those
[iat] draw your own conclusions
[bc] I see. Well, me0w, it makes the site less characterful and "homebrew", but probably more sensible and easier to navigate
[bc] depends what you want I suppose
[bc] iat, menthols of any stripe are for the less manly
[iat] heh. yeah
[bc] same as marlboro lights
[bc] female student's smoke, that
[iat] bah
[iat] marlboro lights are for those people who smoke but dont want to admit it to themselves
* momocrome has a crush on Siân Phillips
[iat] which does cover many female students i guess
[bc] you should have a commenting system me0w
[bc] what an ego-site then!
[bc] who, momocrome?
[bc] she sounds suspiciously welsh
[bc] I hope you haven't started liking welsh people
[momocrome] welch
[bc] I might have known it
[bc] poor momocrome
[iat] "mr blue sky, please tell us why you had to hide away for so long!"
[bc] ??
[iat] i'm singing
[bc] I thought it was some sort of prayer
[iat] no, it's ELO
[bc] oh
[bc] Electric Light Orchestra?
[iat] bah, i'm in danger of losing my lightweightedness
[iat] i've had 8 bottles of stella and am not feeling tired
[iat] yeah, electric light orchestra
[iat] i've always wondered how the words fit togeth in that phrase
[bc] you should try yourself spirits now that beer doesn't provide the kick it once did
[iat] is it: electric... light orchestra, or electric light.... orchestra?
[bc] look at county, he was drinking spirits insanely, now he is probably unconscious
[iat] i don't like spirits, they give me a hangover
[bc] try a clean ethanol-only spirit then
[bc] like vodka
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[iat] an "ethanol only" spirit is surely pure ethanol
[bc] I mean, a spirit without any methanol
[bc] methanol is bad for hangovers
[bc] wine has loads of it
[iat] do they normally put methanol in spirits?
[bc] especially red wine
[bc] and the murkier spirits
[bc] iat, methanol is a natual alcohol of the fermentation process
[bc] there's usually much less of it than ethanol, but most drinks have it to varying amounts
[iat] is it? methanol is just a shorter carbon chain right?
[iat] can you get pissed off methanol?
[bc] I think so. Maybe longer, damned if I know
[bc] yes you can
[bc] it's an alcohol
[bc] but it gives you a much worse hangover
[momocrome] you'll go blind instantly when you get drunk off methanol
[iat] methanol is CH2OH from memory
[bc] which is why booze that has more of it gives you a worse hangover
[iat] ethanl is CH3CH20H
[bc] but generally they have little, but still enough for headaches
[bc] wine for example, I think only 5% of the alcohol in it is methanol
[bc] I forget, but a small amount
[iat] i'm fine off white wine, but red wine gives me shokcing headaches the morning after, as does guiness
[iat] oh dear, craig's gone mad again
[bc] red wine is the worst
[bc] iat: where?
[iat] 20721
[bc] I must look
[bc] I sort of provoked him
[iat] was it you stirring shit bc?
[momocrome] i have done my part as well
[iat] shame on you, vlad must be eliminated
[bc] I did a post attacking craig, yes
[bc] saying he should fantasise about he petrified virgin mary
[bc] and iat, goddamnit, phoning up vlad and stuff is totally over the line
[bc] and he's an insane fucker!
[iat] heh, what about garden gnomes?
[bc] no not me
[momocrome] it is actually illegal behaviour
[momocrome] but more than that, it is supid
[momocrome] suuupid
[momocrome] stupid
[bc] damned right
[bc] and not only that, the fucker posted all our names to the sid
[momocrome] this isn't trolling, it is thug-like cruelty
[bc] fuck him!
[iat] informal #adequacy poll. should iat have another drink?
[bc] yes momocrome
[bc] and yes iat
[iat] 1) no, he should sleep
[momocrome] yes, iat
[momocrome] 2) yes, iat
[iat] 2) no, he has no more fags, and booze with no fage makes iat sad
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[iat] 2) yes, he still has too much booze to fit it into his cupboards
[iat] 4) yes, he's still not pissed
[iat] 5) yes, why not:?
[momocrome] pop up to the corner chop and procure a acket of fags
[iat] which one?
[iat] corner shop is not only closed. but it's on the common council estate
[momocrome] do you have a crowbar?
[FcmfAC] Ah, well.
[iat] if i had some rizlas, i could smoke my fag butts again
[FcmfAC] It's going to go down in flames.
[iat] more booze it is then
[FcmfAC] http://www.kuro5hin.org/displaystory/2002/11/16/2
[iat] bc, can you dcc me some fags?
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Session Close: Sat Nov 16 20:16:23 2002
Session Start: Sun Nov 17 23:05:59 2002
*** Now talking in #adequacy
*** Topic is ' I remember when I first got drunk || I thought "I want to spend the rest of my days in this condition"'
*** Set by Sylvain on Sat Nov 16 18:51:55
shhhh
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Session Close: Sun Nov 17 23:06:59 2002
From: cptroll
) and pioneer an entirely PICTOGRAPHIC version (http://ilovebacon.bla-bla.com/noway/112100c.shtml ).
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] why the internet rules
Date sent: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 17:29:43 -0500
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0037)
Did you get that from ilovebacon.com? Because if you did, then I'm disappointed you didn't note how those industrious Germans are at it again. Who else could pick up on the failure of dogs to read their 'no pooping' signs (http://ilovebacon.bla-bla.com/noway/110300.shtml
Without such innovation at home, it's little wonder Amerika is scraping
the bottom of the corporate barrel abroad.
jlb <jlb@io.com> wrote:
>http://www.d111.k12.id.us/BHS/BHS.htm
(This is CP0037)
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[bc_dvd] bye
[momocrome] hi
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[county] Hi and bye to all of you, as appropriate.
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[county] cyndrekit, hello.
[cyndrekit] hello county
[cyndrekit] did bc actually get a dvd?
[cyndrekit] I am shocked.
[cyndrekit]
[county] I wonder what it is.
[me0w] Hello
[county] Greetings, me0w.
[me0w] Good day
[cyndrekit] hi hi
[em] http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/02
[cyndrekit] is there a story to go with it?
[em] yes
[cyndrekit] oh cool, found it
[em] the photo is just too cool.
* momocrome moans
[momocrome] too much drunk for one night
[county] It's not night!
[me0w] Soon it will be.
[momocrome] oh last night's what I mean
[county] You didn't seem that drunk.
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[wsl3] Has anyone in here actually had a child?
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[wsl3] Has anyone in here actually had a child?
[me0w] I have a cat
[me0w] She's kind of like a child.
[bc] hello!
[me0w] hi!
[bc] damn, missed cyn
[bc] that film was great
[county] What was it?
[bc] it was "Contact", county
[bc] I liked the way it explored revelatory experiences
[county] Have I mentioned that I've nursed an infatuation for Jodie Foster?
[bc] and scepticism as opposed to faith
[bc] you know what? I was just thinking about that
[county] About what?
[bc] I never really used to like her, because she seems quite sharp nosed and hard faced, in that way
[bc] but now, well, now I see. She seemed so vulnerable in that film
[county] I like well-defined faces.
[county] I can see why her's might be too sharp for you, though.
[bc] and you just wanted to protect her against the world
[momocrome] i hate kitten, but I am hung over and foggy headed
[bc] it is quite sharp, but I see beyond that now
[county] I like faces with character, not just formless fleshy masses, that so many other girls seem to have.
[county] Don't hate kitten, momocrome.
[county] There's no point.
[county] I just don't understand how he thinks he's different than the people he's always railing on.
[county] It's really funny, actually.
[bc] hehe
[bc] it's true, county
[bc] he constantly moans about people being "arrogant", or "narrow minded"
[county] I try to point it out now and then, but he just doesn't see it.
[bc] and you think "whaaa?"
[county] I think stouts are my favorite.
[bc] kitten is the most narrow minded & arrogant chap on the internet
[me0w] I am going out drinking tonight.
[county] One of my bus infatuations, the one who was being picked on, has a somewhat sharp face.
[county] Actually, I love her face.
[bc] I hope you have a voice of reason, me0w
[county] It's pretty, but not beautiful, by normal standards.
[county] But it just looks so carefully crafted, somehow.
[bc] is the sharp faced bus infatuation the same girl as the one with the limp?
[county] It looks like someone wanted her face to look just like that, and they invested endless time in carefully crafting it.
[county] You know what I mean?
[me0w] bc: I do, although this voice of reason is a little suspect
[county] (No, the limping girl is someone else, and she doesn't generally limp.)
[bc] why me0w, is this voice of reason American or something? I know you hate Americans. An American Voice of Reason would probably advice you to lick the most repugnant people in the room, as retaliation.
[bc] county: yes, I do know
[bc] interesting faces are nice
[county] When I see her, I want to hold her face in my hands and kiss it.
[county] But that's not a polite thing to do on a bus.
[county] You're wrong about us American's, bc. An American voice of reason wouldn't feel any ill will toward me0w, despite her hatred.
[bc] get to know her first, and do it later. Have her melt
[county] It would just feel sadness and hurt.
[county] "Americans"
[Sylvain] hey bc
[bc] county, my impression of Americans is that they are friendly and kind, and idealistic, but that if you cross them they take a just vengeance
[bc] hey em
[county] Cross us, yes. Simply hating us but doing nothing about it is not crossing us.
[bc] that seems fair enough
[bc] though who knows, me0w yank-hatred is such that it wouldn't surprise me to find she has crossed the line
[me0w] bc: this voice of reason has been my friend since HS, and on several occasions, while I was not quite in the right fram of mind, he got me to do silly things.
[county] It's mean and hurtful, yes, but that's not enough. We Americans only retaliate when actual harm is done.
[me0w] I do not have individual-yank hatred.
[county] I hope she hasn't crossed the line. America's wrath is great toward those who hurt her.
[bc] he sounds like a splendid chap, me0w. He should tell you to lick a lovely, yooung 16yo with lots of acne
[me0w] bc: He would tell me to go and make out with girls.
[bc] what?? That's only because he gets off on it himself, the weirdo perv
[county] Lesbian sex must be the least arousing thing in existence.
[bc] agreed, county, but I understand many chaps find it appealing
[county] But oh, man.
[county] This is nice.
[bc] generally ones with supressed homosexual urges themselves, I understand
[county] I have that warm, content feeling that comes with a few boozes and just finishing a delicious salami and pepper jack sandwich.
[bc] I want to have faith in something
[bc] I don't know what, but it seems to make people happy
[bc] so it must be worth a shot
[me0w] He likes to make me do these things and take pictures
[bc] he's sounding more&more sick
[county] What sort of things?
[me0w] He teases my SO with the pictures.
[county] I'm only asking so we can get a good idea of how sick he is.
[bc] "teases"? If I had a gf who french kissed girls in strange clubs, and a friend who took pictures of this and then showed them to me, I'd be jolly well angry, and likely explode in anger and start shouting at people
[bc] It takes all sorts, eh county
[county] I wouldn't want a girl that french kisses other girls.
[Sylvain] is it just me, or has this channel become too serious?
[county] This channel is a joke, Sylvain.
[bc] Sylvain, it's great. Since the regulars left, the channel has become more&more&more fun
[county] I like this channel. It's a lot of bullshit, a lot of heartfelt confession, and a lot of fighting.
[county] I can't think how it could be improved.
[bc] that's pretty much why I like it. What makes it tolerable is that a lot of the time, you can't really tell which is which
[county] For example, I quite like my online relationship with luisa.
[bc] serious? or bullshit? serious fight? bullshit fight? confession or or bullshit? fight? mixing it up to cause a fight? Who can tell.
[county] It's all fighting mixed with lies and truths.
[bc] I hope ubu has extensive logs of #kuro5hin
[bc] actually, do you, county?
[bc] going back a year or so?
[county] Well, I log whenever I'm in there.
[bc] I wish to find something
[county] I should point out that I've only been online for a month or so.
[bc] yes, but I understand you are friendly with someone who was here before, it was just on the offchance he gave you his logs
[county] Well, I have #k5 logs going back over a year, yes.
[bc] what size are they when zipped up would you guess?
[bc] nothing vast, right? not 50mb or something absurd?
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[bc] hello dmg
[dmg] whassup bc
[Sylvain] hey dmg
[bc] not much
[dmg] hey sylvain
[bc] I just watched "contact" dmg, which has led me to believe I need faith in my life.
[county] I have a bit over 100mb of #k5 logs, bc.
[bc] em probably hates that film, for its inclusion of arecibo and the airbrushing out of native 'Ricans, only mentioned in passing for their superstitious beliefs about the telescope
[bc] crap, that's loads county
[bc] bugger it
[dmg] contact ? Is that with whatshername from silence of th e lambs
[Sylvain] superstitious beliefs indeed
[bc] yes dmg
[dmg] I dont like her voice
[Sylvain] the visiting scientists don't leave ALL that much money as they think
[county] Silence, dmg.
[county] She is my infatuation of the moment.
[bc] yes. She was mine first though
[bc] I spent the film marvelling at her vulnerability
[county] I liked her before you watched the film, bastard!
[dmg] you would like "the accused" then...
[dmg] she is more vulnerable in that.
[dmg] I just cannot stand her voice
[bc] She only came to my notice during the film, really. She fits the archetype that I like in women, so it can be said that I have always liked her, as long as I have been alive.
[dmg] eurrgh
[county] Her voice, or her accent?
[dmg] her voive
[dmg] voice
[dmg] it just annoysh me
[county] I never found it annoying.
[county] hmm.
[dmg] itsh sho annoying
[bc] I like it. It seems to have a nice burr
[me0w] My SO's drunken sister keeps messaging me. =/
[bc] she's like a female sean connery
[dmg] bc: exactly
[dmg] she shertainly ish
[bc] me0w, give her my aim and tell her to msg me
[county] Have her msg me.
[bc] I think I'd enjoy talking to a drunken woman!
[me0w] bc: She is on Y!
[dmg] get her on #adequacy
[county] I want a drunk girl to torment.
[county] ARGH
[bc] that's okay, I'm on yahoo too me0w
[me0w] I don't think she knows how to irc.
[county] I WANT A DRUNK GIRL TO TORMENT SO MUCH
[me0w] She does use that horrible habbo hotel junk
[county] Huh?
[bc] trillian just connected me to aim, yahoo, msn and icq. Now tell her to msg me! My ID on yahoo is tinyp3a. DO IT.
[bc] I WANT TO TORMENT COUNTY SO MUCH
[county] ]:(
[me0w] Be nice
[county] I am a fragile angel.
[me0w] she is my future sister-in-law
[bc] I'm always nice
[dmg] trillian can connect to msn ?
[dmg] wow!
[dmg] I never realised that.
[county] bc steals every woman I want.
[county] Every one
[me0w] bc, I gave her your id
[bc] wow!
[bc] she really is drunk
[Sylvain] paste example
[dmg] bc is from www.girlfriendstealers.com
[county] dmg, he did steal my girlfriend.
[county] Actually.
[dmg] http://www.girlfriendstealer.com/
[bc] [censored]: helloo?1
[bc] tinyp3a: hello!
[bc] [censored]: howw s u?
[county] I can't believe I forgave him for that.
[me0w] bc, please keep in mind that she is only 17
[dmg] women come and go.
[county] dmg, I loved her!
[county] And bc stole her
[dmg] those are the breaks.
[dmg] bc is irresistible to women.
[dmg] he is like Sam Sloan in that respect
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[county] Yeah. And when I cut his hands and feet of, burn his face off with acide, and leave him to die, those will be the breaks, eh?
[dmg] well yes.
[county] "acid"
[dmg] bc takes full responsibility for his actions.
[bc] [censored]: LoL AWW U SHOULDA!!
[dmg] he is an anarcho-capitalist libertarian
* bc ROFL
[dmg] who was this woman anyway ?
[dmg] she cannot have been in love with you if she let bc steal her away
[county] me0w's SO's sister.
[bc] county, I asked to speak to her first
[bc] so I didn't steal her at all
[bc] she is verrry drunk
[county] I thought of it first, bc, but my intoxication is slowing down my typing.
[Sylvain] bc: i don't think that will appease county's perception of entitledness.
[county] Ask her for naked pictures of Jin Wicked, bc.
[dmg] I have some of those
[county] Yeah? Lucky you.
[dmg] she keeps crapflooding my mailbox with them
[dmg] attention-seeker.
[county] She's a pain, in that respect.
[county] And every other respect.
[dmg] its like,
[county] With no respect.
[dmg] stop spamming me with nude photos.
[dmg] If I wanted to see that sort of thing I would get a girlfriend.
[county] I want to see it, and I can't get a girlfriend.
[county] You're attractive, confident, and wordly.
[Sylvain] dmg: you'd get a girlfriend to see nude *photos*?
[county] I'm a geeky pud.
[dmg] no if I wanted to see nude women
[dmg] Id get a girlfriend
[county] Or you'd just sleep around. Slut.
[dmg] aha the old double standard
[county] Not all nude women were created equal, though.
[dmg] we are all equal in the eyes of Allah (SWT) apart from the Infidels
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[county] There's only one girl I want to see naked, actually.
[bc] damn
[bc] she's too drunk to realise that when I say I'm living under a glacier, I'm joking
* me0w giggles
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[dmg] Scotland is an icy barren wasteland though, bc
[me0w] time for showering
[dmg] she could be forgiven
[Sylvain] bc maybe that's not drunkenness.
[bc] also, she speaks like a black Londoner with hyper estuary english
[Sylvain] it's perhaps stupidity augmented by adolescence and drunkenness.
[dmg] hold on one moment. if she is 17 and drunk, is she not guilty of an offence ????
[Sylvain] nope.
[dmg] Should not we be reporting her to the authorities
[dmg] ???
[dmg] or the person who supplied the alcohol
[bc] LOL
[Sylvain] somebody else is
[dmg] In the UK the alcohol age is 5
[dmg] for consumption in the home
[county] You must be kidding.
[dmg] how enlightened compared to our other stupid laws.
[dmg] no, its 5
[dmg] seriously
[county] Why have an age at all?
[dmg] Ill find a web page if I can to PROVE it
[county] Yeah, because web pages are always right!
[bc] she's away now
[bc] [censored]: BywebYE!!
[bc] which is sort of a relief
[bc] hehe
[county] I bet you got lots of fantastic drunken cybersex ]:(
[bc] don't be revolting county
[bc] I am a people person
[dmg] http://www.icap.org/pdf/report4updated.pdf
[bc] people interest me, and I like to find out all about them
[bc] there is no other motivation
[county] I'm not going to try to read through a pdf in this condition.
[dmg] one moment
[dmg] fucking cut-n-paste doesn't work
[county] I think I'd like another salami sandwish
[dmg] In bars and off-licensed premises the MDA and MPA are 18. The MPA for
[dmg] beer and cider is 16 when purchased for consumption with meals
[dmg] (except when in a bar). Children over five may consume alcoholic
[dmg] beverages at home with their parent's consent.
[bc] pdf sucks
[dmg] basically if you have cool parents you can get pissed once you start infant school
[dmg] but if you are over 18 and want to drink after 11pm, you are shit out of luck
[dmg] its a contradiction to be sure...
[Sylvain] there are some exceptions to alcohol laws here in USia IIRC
[Sylvain] e.g. it's allowed to give a child some wine if required by a religious ritual
[dmg] * In 19 states alcohol consumption by youth under 21 is not specifically
[dmg] illegal.
[dmg] ** Exceptions to the 21 law in some states include possession for
[dmg] religious purposes when accompanied by a parent, spouse or legal
[dmg] guardian; medical reasons; in private clubs or establishments; in the
[dmg] course of lawful employment by a duly licensed manufac
[Sylvain] e.g. catholic communion frequently involves a bit of wine.
[bc] I remember when I first got drunk
[bc] I thought "I want to spend the rest of my days in this condition"
[bc] it was a revelation
[bc] I think I have found my faith already
[dmg] I was about four when I first got drunk. on Babycham believe it or not. My mum did not realise it was alcoholic
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[bc] I had a good swig of scotdch when I was 6 months old and got drunk
[bc] that was quite impressive. I saw the glass of double scotch, grasped it in two hands, and swigged it right down
[bc] well, I can't in truth remember if it got be drunk, or anything about it at all, but I'm sure it must've
[dmg] thats pretty funny
[dmg] you could have died however.
[Sylvain] he wouldn't have understood it.
[bc] nah, I took it like a baby
[Sylvain] no trauma for him
[Sylvain] what's the problem with dying when you're a perfectly innocent being?
[Sylvain] it's only when we grow old and come to appreciate that life is valuable that we have a problem with it
[county] I am a perfectly innocent being.
[dmg] what about original sin ?
[Sylvain] 16:31 [ county] I WANT A DRUNK GIRL TO TORMENT SO MUCH
[bc] you'll note he didn't actually do it, em
[bc] county has control of his desires
[county] I actually don't even think I wrote that.
* Sylvain sings: Nwel a rive pou nou pa pedi lespwa nou!
[county] The wind has really picked up here.
[county] It's almost violent.
[dmg] im going to bed
[dmg] its past my bedtime
* bc bought a bottle of Appleston Estate 40 year old today,Sylvain
[dmg] bloody IRC
[bc] night dmg!
[dmg] night night everyone
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[county] What's that, bc?
[Sylvain] bc: wow.
[bc] it's an excellent rum
[Sylvain] how much was it?
[bc] a bloody fortune
[Sylvain] fuck. the oldest rum i've ever had is 12 years.
[county] Ah, a rum.
[Sylvain] any words on how good it is beyond "excellent"?
[county] The oldest rum I've had was also 12 years.
[bc] it tastes nice. Older rums seem to become more whiskyish, somehow, it is hard to explain
[bc] much more complex
[county] Now you just need some forty year old coke.
[bc] it is aged in the tropics, too
[bc] apparantly that means it ages more rapidly
[bc] at about 3x the rate of a spirit aged in, say, canada
[bc] anyway, I don't know. It tastes very nutty, somehow
[Sylvain] but how expensive was it?
[bc] em: £10,000
[bc] http://www.canoe.ca/LifewiseFoodWine01/0314_winew
[Sylvain] yeah, right, like you have 15,795.99 USD
[bc]
[bc] it's really nice with coke though!
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[bc]
[bc] wouldn't that be lovely though?
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[bc] I'd be scared to drink it
[bc] hey iat!
[iat] hey bc
[iat] whassup bc?
[bc] not much
[bc] how's the online dating scene going? =)
[iat] i finally got rid of my woman. she came to get rid of her shit from my flat this evening. i'm getting pissed and then tomorrow im gonna get on with my life
* county sighs
[bc] dmg was telling me about it, er, your troubles with her
* county weeps
[iat] dmg said you're coming to london next month
[iat] heh, someone gave her rohypnol last night!
[county] That's horrible.
[iat] i don't know who would be fucked up enough to waste good rohypnol on her
[bc] did he? He's wrong. I was going to, but something disastrous happened. I may come in January, but not december, that's been off for ages due to commitments
[iat] bah, we all want to meet you
[iat] what did dmg say about me/it/her?
[bc] hehe. I'll come down sooner or later
[bc] he was talking about how you met her on match.com (!)
[bc] which reminds me, I have to search march.com insanely to find her
[iat] yeah, it's either that or start fucking my secretary. i saw it as the lesser of two evils
[me0w] bc, And how was she?
[bc] there really can't be that many overweight, red headed, goth girls from london on mach.com
[iat] you'd be surprised
[county] No more than twenty or so, I'd guess.
[bc] me0w: very drunk. Spoke in estuary english. Seemed good natured though, through the disgraceful mists of her underage drinking
[iat] btw, you forgot moustachiod
[iat] otoh, there are no biologists with pds living in edinburgh on match
[bc]
[county] Why on earth did you even have anything to do with her, iat?
[bc] I found one I liked on match.com
[me0w] bc, She is a nice girl
[iat] county: i wanted to get my redhead fetish out of the way
[bc] but I'm not showing her to you iat, you'd steal her
[iat] i wasn;t sure if the "ginger pubes" thing was a liberal myth
[me0w] bc, I think there is a picture of her in my gallery
[iat] of course i'd steal her, i'm a stud
[bc] heh me0w. She seemed nice. Drunk for sure, drunk as a Lord, it was terrifically amusing
[me0w] bc, Unfortunately her typing doesn't get much better
[iat] bc: where's your bondage pr0n collection stored on aq?
[county] A stud? You seem like a poorer middle class fellow, somewhat on the ugly side.
[iat] upper middle class, only slightly ugly thank you
[iat] but, i am hung like a mouse
[iat] emr, moose
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[Sulla] me0w, are you trying to say that she mayn't have been drunk at all, or was only tipsy, and that she isn't really too different when sober?
[Sulla] iat: I forget. I never look at it, and it isn't "my collection"
[me0w] bc, She was drunk.
[iat] whose collection is it then?
[me0w] bc, But when she is sober I often have a dificult time understanding what she is saying.
[Sulla] it is me0ws and I put it there cos perdida wanted it for some story relating to 80's bdsm pornography for her site
[me0w] bc, she likes to type in some sort of sms speak
[Sulla] hehe
[Sulla] that would explain whey she says "da" for "the"
[me0w] bc, ahaha you still have those pictures?
[iat] who is me0w anyway? there's all these new faces since i last frewuented #aq?
[Sulla] me0w yes, and embrassingly, someone posted the link into my diary and made all sorts of insinuations
[Sulla] mind you, since I've claimed to be a rapist on k5 before it isn't like I can sink much lower
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[iat] anyway bc, you never told me where you keep it
[me0w] bc, and they weren't even good pictures
[Sulla] iat, me0w is this bird wot came here from #k5 who is quite nice and stuff, though canadian (french)
[county] Does me0w speak french?
[Sulla] iat, I'll look out the url
[iat] i work with a REAL french canadian, her mother's french and her father's canadian. she's never been near "french candian" territory
[county] Sulla, so you really do have a bondage porn collection?
[county] I thought that was myth.
[Sulla] http://www.adequacy.org/images/bc/violate.me.uk/p
[Sulla] it's not my fucking collection!
[Sulla] jesus H christ
[me0w] bc, you know, I've never actually looked at all of them
[county] Yeah, whatever.
[iat] it appears to be quite a copmorehensive collection bc
[Sulla] there are perfectly legitimate reasons the pics are there
[county] So you find this appealing, bc? http://www.adequacy.org/images/bc/violate.me.uk/p
[Sulla] me0w, neither have I
[Sulla] I just looked at some funny 80's ones
[me0w] bc, I looked at the ones that perdida pointed out
[Sulla] http://www.adequacy.org/images/bc/violate.me.uk/p
[Sulla] I'm sorry, that makes me laugh and laugh
[county] These are amusing and sexy at the same time. I love it!
[Sulla] anyway, when I can be bothered, I'll delete the whole lot
[me0w] bc, was there a series of hunchback pictures?
[Sulla] yes me0w
[Sulla] the "bonk" series
[Sulla] http://www.adequacy.org/images/bc/violate.me.uk/p
[Sulla] that's also pretty damned hilarious
[county] I'll give you $728 for all these pictures, Sulla.
[Sulla] some of them are funny, but all the rest are just crude and nasty
[Sulla] county, it's a deal!
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[county] Fantastic!
[bc] I love the leer on the guy's face
[bc] so cheesy
[me0w] county, I could just mail you the cd they came from
[bc] that's a nice offer, eh county? You should accept
[county] The truth is, I like nothing more than pictures of bound and tormented women.
[county] However, I prefer not to post my mailing address in the channel.
[bc] then msg it to me0w
[county] Msg? I don't know what you mean by that.
[bc] liar
[county] Oh, that hurts
[bc] iat has gone quite quiet since I posted the link, eh?
[bc] I wonder what he is doing?
[iat] heh
[me0w] Wanking?
[iat] smoking and drinking
[county] I'm wanking.
[county] How could I not?
[county] All these photographs of naked women tied up!
[county] It's paradise, from my perspective.
[iat] i love smoking
[iat] i just wish it didn't cost so much
[bc] I thought you were a health freak?
[iat] not these days
[bc] good move
[bc] welcome to the "cool set"
[iat] the pressures of work have turned me into a nicotine-fuelled anorexic
[county] I have never, ever smoked.
[county] I probably should.
[bc] you'd like it
[iat] i have never, ever smoked crack
[bc] everybody with an addictive personality should have many addictions
[county] I don't have an addictive personality.
[bc] You do. Oh god you do.
[bc] You are always looking for a hit
[county] Explain!
[county] I'm addicted to little.
[county] Just alcohol and that girl from work's ass.
[bc] you don't just talk to people. You have angles, you attack and duck and weave, you seek the high of torture and humiliation of others in everything you say
[county] No
[county] Not others, women.
[county] I only want to hurt females.
[county] Please keep that straight.
[bc] You do it to vlad often enough, phoneboy
[me0w] I dunno what to wear
[county] Oh, that's different.
[iat] bc: will you stop saying "humiliation"? the "iat" bit interrupts my mp3s by making acidmax make sounds
[bc] hehe, okay iat, I didn't realise I said humiliation so often
[county] My motivation for tormenting vlad is entriely different than my motivation for tormenting, say, luisa.
[bc] me0w, wear leather and stuff
[bc] I don't know
[county] me0w, dress chastly.
[county] It's incredibly sexy.
[bc] me0w, wear a denim skirt with a sort of white lacery around the pockets that looks lovely and homely, and a black t-shirt above that is slinky and just has strap things over the shoulders so it is more of a dress, really.
[bc] let your hair hang down forward over your bosom, to each side, following the contours perfectly
[me0w] bc, I don't own any denim skirts
[me0w] and I only have a leather corset
[bc] hmmmn
[county] I told you, me0w.
[iat] bc: what happened to your general knwoledge bot?
[county] Dress chastly.
[county] It will draw guys like you can't believe.
[bc] wear a turqoise top, that is very close fitting and very slightly see-through, revealing a white bra underneath on the edge of awareness, and making men think you are less calculating and more genuine than those other dolled up girls. Underneath, wear black trousers that are practical looking though ladylike, covered in pockets
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[bc] iat: It's on my hard drive. I got bored with it and moved onto other things
[county] The white bra is a good idea.
[iat] what are you coding now, j00 1337 hax0r j00?
[me0w] bc, I don't own a turqoise top
[county] When I see a white bra, my instinct is to assume it was displayed on accident, becuause my tendancy is to feel white-bra-clad people are pure and innocent.
[me0w] and I don't know if I have a white bra
[county] ]:(
[me0w] wait wait
[me0w] I found a white bra
[bc] I'm writing a new peer2peer filesharing system that will specialise in text, pdf and html documents that the man would like to keep down. it will allow you to search for strings inside the text body, and return results, google like, that show the context
[bc] zool me0w!
[county] she had a blue bra, it was lovely. I hate it now, though I loved it then!
[bc] okay, do you have any slightly see-through tops at all?
[county] Oh god, she looked lovely in it.
[bc] what we are going for here is the thrown-on, unsophisticated but lovely look
[me0w] I have a whole collection of see through wear
[me0w] but I don't think it would be appropriate for the places I'm going this evening
[county] "see-through" should be hyphenated.
[iat] bc "the man" doensn't care about text files
[bc] bugger appropriate. Look like a lost fawn in the wilderness
[bc] he does, iat, more than any other media
[iat] approprIATe interrupts my mp3s. plz stop tnx
[me0w] these pants require a thong
[bc] my filesharing network will have terrorist plans, blueprints, and government leaks and such
[bc] and books
[iat] no-one will use it for anything other than war3zing books
[bc] I will provide that service. It's more than a filesharing network, I intend it to be a peer-2-peer knowledge base sort of deal
[bc] you can do context searches and it will return a few paeges or a chapter from a book say
[bc] and it will allow a wikipedia type self editing bit
[iat] how long have you been programming?
[bc] but everything will be peer-2-peer, the whole encyclopaedia
[iat] aargh, not wikipedia!
[bc] not like that, but that's the model. Imagine a wikipaedia not located on any machine, but spread across a peer-2-peer netowrk. it could hold the Truth, regardless of what government or corporate law tries
[bc] it's a powerful concept for political and informational insurgency
[iat] there is no TRUTH
[bc] you state that like it is a truth
[bc] well, it's not!
[iat] of course
[iat] there is not truth... even to say that is not true... but to say its not true is also not true
[bc] it won't hold any particular truth, many truths and narratives
[bc] it shall be thoroughly decentralised and beyond the control of anyone, that is the point
[county] Quite right, bc. There are many truths, in this modern age.
[bc] must smoke
[iat] why not smoke then?
[bc] I'm ahead of you, iat
[iat] i've smoked 19 since 7:30 and have just 1 left
[bc] wow that's lots
[county] are there just 20 in a pack/:?
[iat] yeah, how many did you think there were?
[bc] yes, unless you get Rothman's Royals
[iat] oh yeah
[bc] which have 24, for some reason
[county] iat, I've never smoked.
[iat] or 10 packs, but you can't get those in usia
[bc] just think iat, if you had got Royals, you'd have 5 left now
[iat] heh
[me0w] I have a favour to ask
[iat] but they wouldn't taste half as nice as mmy marlboro lights
[bc] what's that me0w?
[bc] yuk
[me0w] bc, I need an opinion
[bc] I don't like Marlboro lights. I'm a Dunhill man
[me0w] bc, you know what my site currently looks like right?
[bc] yes
[bc] yes I do
[iat] dunhill?
[me0w] bc, ok
[bc] I browse it every 20 minutes
[iat] dunhill are for poor people, eight?
[iat] erm, right even
[bc] they are not for poor people
[bc] just the opposite
[iat] heh
[iat] my marlboro light costs me 4.70 a pack
[iat] beat that
[bc] this one has a more traditional bloggy feel me0w, but won't it mean the front page won't change as radically so often? I suppose I like it better in that you can see the previous articles, but less in that the front page doesn't periodically change radically, so that you don't know what will appear. It's prolly more sensible though
[bc] also, the right hand side seems wider somehow
[bc] mine cost £4.95
[bc] suck it!
[bc] and that's without inflated london prices
[iat] bah
[bc] it must be the pics making the right wider
[iat] that's stupid
[me0w] bc, the pics do make it wider
[iat] are dunhills those ones that have the wide packets that don't fit in your pocket?
[me0w] bc, this new system is a modifed blogger
[bc] those are dunhill internationals, iat, which I often get too, and are about £5.40
[iat] i know a gay guy who smokes the methol ones of those
[iat] draw your own conclusions
[bc] I see. Well, me0w, it makes the site less characterful and "homebrew", but probably more sensible and easier to navigate
[bc] depends what you want I suppose
[bc] iat, menthols of any stripe are for the less manly
[iat] heh. yeah
[bc] same as marlboro lights
[bc] female student's smoke, that
[iat] bah
[iat] marlboro lights are for those people who smoke but dont want to admit it to themselves
* momocrome has a crush on Siân Phillips
[iat] which does cover many female students i guess
[bc] you should have a commenting system me0w
[bc] what an ego-site then!
[bc] who, momocrome?
[bc] she sounds suspiciously welsh
[bc] I hope you haven't started liking welsh people
[momocrome] welch
[bc] I might have known it
[bc] poor momocrome
[iat] "mr blue sky, please tell us why you had to hide away for so long!"
[bc] ??
[iat] i'm singing
[bc] I thought it was some sort of prayer
[iat] no, it's ELO
[bc] oh
[bc] Electric Light Orchestra?
[iat] bah, i'm in danger of losing my lightweightedness
[iat] i've had 8 bottles of stella and am not feeling tired
[iat] yeah, electric light orchestra
[iat] i've always wondered how the words fit togeth in that phrase
[bc] you should try yourself spirits now that beer doesn't provide the kick it once did
[iat] is it: electric... light orchestra, or electric light.... orchestra?
[bc] look at county, he was drinking spirits insanely, now he is probably unconscious
[iat] i don't like spirits, they give me a hangover
[bc] try a clean ethanol-only spirit then
[bc] like vodka
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[iat] an "ethanol only" spirit is surely pure ethanol
[bc] I mean, a spirit without any methanol
[bc] methanol is bad for hangovers
[bc] wine has loads of it
[iat] do they normally put methanol in spirits?
[bc] especially red wine
[bc] and the murkier spirits
[bc] iat, methanol is a natual alcohol of the fermentation process
[bc] there's usually much less of it than ethanol, but most drinks have it to varying amounts
[iat] is it? methanol is just a shorter carbon chain right?
[iat] can you get pissed off methanol?
[bc] I think so. Maybe longer, damned if I know
[bc] yes you can
[bc] it's an alcohol
[bc] but it gives you a much worse hangover
[momocrome] you'll go blind instantly when you get drunk off methanol
[iat] methanol is CH2OH from memory
[bc] which is why booze that has more of it gives you a worse hangover
[iat] ethanl is CH3CH20H
[bc] but generally they have little, but still enough for headaches
[bc] wine for example, I think only 5% of the alcohol in it is methanol
[bc] I forget, but a small amount
[iat] i'm fine off white wine, but red wine gives me shokcing headaches the morning after, as does guiness
[iat] oh dear, craig's gone mad again
[bc] red wine is the worst
[bc] iat: where?
[iat] 20721
[bc] I must look
[bc] I sort of provoked him
[iat] was it you stirring shit bc?
[momocrome] i have done my part as well
[iat] shame on you, vlad must be eliminated
[bc] I did a post attacking craig, yes
[bc] saying he should fantasise about he petrified virgin mary
[bc] and iat, goddamnit, phoning up vlad and stuff is totally over the line
[bc] and he's an insane fucker!
[iat] heh, what about garden gnomes?
[bc] no not me
[momocrome] it is actually illegal behaviour
[momocrome] but more than that, it is supid
[momocrome] suuupid
[momocrome] stupid
[bc] damned right
[bc] and not only that, the fucker posted all our names to the sid
[momocrome] this isn't trolling, it is thug-like cruelty
[bc] fuck him!
[iat] informal #adequacy poll. should iat have another drink?
[bc] yes momocrome
[bc] and yes iat
[iat] 1) no, he should sleep
[momocrome] yes, iat
[momocrome] 2) yes, iat
[iat] 2) no, he has no more fags, and booze with no fage makes iat sad
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[iat] 2) yes, he still has too much booze to fit it into his cupboards
[iat] 4) yes, he's still not pissed
[iat] 5) yes, why not:?
[momocrome] pop up to the corner chop and procure a acket of fags
[iat] which one?
[iat] corner shop is not only closed. but it's on the common council estate
[momocrome] do you have a crowbar?
[FcmfAC] Ah, well.
[iat] if i had some rizlas, i could smoke my fag butts again
[FcmfAC] It's going to go down in flames.
[iat] more booze it is then
[FcmfAC] http://www.kuro5hin.org/displaystory/2002/11/16/2
[iat] bc, can you dcc me some fags?
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Session Start: Sun Nov 17 23:05:59 2002
*** Now talking in #adequacy
*** Topic is ' I remember when I first got drunk || I thought "I want to spend the rest of my days in this condition"'
*** Set by Sylvain on Sat Nov 16 18:51:55
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From: "80md"
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Evil enemies of Liberty
Date sent: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 00:36:06 EST
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0035)
>From: "Craig McPherson" <craig@laceyonline.com>
>
>I've heard that outside the United States, those are the only five sports
> that exist (Soccer, Polo, Spooning, Curling, and Snuckers), and I don't
>even know what the HECK four of them are.
Well, it's easy to understand why they do these things: They're undernourished, because they don't have much food out there in all the poor countries. So the average foreigner is about four foot six, maybe five feet tops, and they weigh about eighty pounds. Their teeth tend to fall out, and their bones are brittle as hell because they don't have milk. That's because their "commissars" took all their cows away. So you see, these poor "Europeans" as they call themselves, and the "Canadians" and whatnot, all these people are frail weaklings. They have no knowledge of freedom either, because they don't have a Genesis Document guaranteeing their rights, and they're given to sodomy and other degenerate practices because they've never been exposed to Christianity. Christianity is banned in Europe, did you know that? It's true. The Socialists always ban religion when they seize power. Of course, the Europeans were never free to begin with, so they don't know any better. They've always been slaves. It's all the same to them.
So their poor diet, their atheism, their slavehood, and their homosexuality have robbed them of their strength and their manhood. Therefore, they play girl games like Snuckers, Privet, and Gloon. While we eat our peas for the souls in Purgatory, they HAVE no peas. They limply push a ball around a field, with no manly, bone-crunching collisions to build their flaccid
characters. Where even our most girlish pseudomen play tennis, they teach badminton to their soldiers.
>Man, we need to get rid of those other countries. They want to abolish
>our sports and force us to play homosexual female sports like Polo and
>Spooning, whatever they are.
It's sad, but true. In fact, we'd only be putting them out of
their misery. They'd thank us if they understood.
--
80md
"Harry Browne seems to think he knows me personally --
I get a letter from him every week asking for money."
-- Craig
(This is CP0035)
I've been a fool to myself,
I thought that I could live for no one else.
But now, through all the hurt and pain,
It's time for me to respect,
The ones you love mean more than anything.
So with sadness in my heart,
Feel the best thing I could do,
Is end it all, and leave forevar.
What's done is done, it feels so bad,
What once was happy now is sad,
I'll never love again,
My world is ending.
I wish that I could turn back time,
'Cause now the guilt is all mine,
Can't live without the trust from those you love.
I know we can't forget the past,
You can't forget love and pride,
Because of that, it's killing me inside.
It all returns to nothing,
It all comes tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling down.
It all returns to nothing,
I just keep letting me down, letting me down, letting me down.
In my heart of hearts,
I know that I could never love again.
I've lost evarthing... evarthing...
Evarthing that matters to me matters in this world!
I wish that I could turn back time,
'Cause now the guilt is all mine,
Can't live without the trust from those you love.
I know we can't forget the past,
You can't forget love and pride,
Because of that, it's killing me inside.
It all returns to nothing,
It all comes tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling down.
It all returns to nothing,
I just keep letting me down, letting me down, letting me down.
It all returns to nothing,
It all comes tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling down.
It all returns to nothing,
I just keep letting me down, letting me down, letting me down.
Thoughout history, many names have been used to describe those who are on the wrong moral path in life: coward, criminal, fiend, monster, vagrant, lunatic. It's without question that William Scott Lockwood III is all of these things, but these are things that can be forgiven. William Scott Lockwood III's sins run deeper.
In many cultures, the greatest moral offense a man can commit isn't murder, robbery, rape, arson, or even blasphemy. In these cultures, there's a word for someone who is even lower than the murderers and rapists, because he has demonstrated with clear finality his lack of moral character. This one word, never used carelessly, reserved only for the lowest of the low is oathbreaker.
Many societies value personal honor, honesty, and integrity above anything else. People can make mistaks, and still maintain their honor if they take accountability for their actions. But the oathbreaker is the lowest of the low, never to be forgiven, and never to be trusted. This is because he has voluntarily sacrified the only thing that every man brings with him into the world, and the only thing that every man (hopefully) takes with him into the grave: his honor.
When a man's honor is gone, he has nothing.
Ladies and gentlemen, William Scott Lockwood III has nothing. If our society were still built on the concept that a man's word is sacred and that honoring others with the truth is a noble goal, William Scott Lockwood III would be dead right now.
A man's word is his bond, and when he breaks his word, he's no longer a man at all. He's worse than a coward, worse than a liar, and worse than a thief, but he's all these things and more. He's an oathbreaker.
In the past, oathbreakers become nonpersons. They stand below even murderers and thieves. Even beggars would not give or recieve comfort from an oathbreaker. Quite often, they were simply killed outright. Sometimes, they were merely cut off from honest society, trusted by no one, alienated until the day they died. After their death, their families were shunned and distrusted forever, because a man holds in his hand no only his own honor, but the honor of his family as well.
The Lockwood family has no honor left. The Lockwood family has no place in honest society, among civilized humans, because they have no honor, and they are not a part of civilization.
Killing an oathbreaker was considered to be an act of mercy, sending a tortured soul on to final judgement instead of forcing him to live an empty, hollow life.
Maybe it's time that we bring back the practice of killing oathbreakers, and ensuring that their bloodline does not propogate. Maybe a lack of honesty is what's wrong with our society. Maybe that's why everything is falling into chaos around us. When you can't trust a man's word, what basis is there for civilization?
I think upon consideration that you will agree: William Scott Lockwood III is less than a gentlemen, less even than a man, less even than a human, less even than an animal. William Scott Lockwood III is an oathbreaker.
From: Ceee Peee
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Experiment in whoring...
Date sent: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 10:03:49 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0005)
It's good to see you making a go at it again, but I'm
confused as to why you're trying to whore up a
bitchslapped account, because no matter what your
karma is, you'll never stop defaulting to -1 (just ask
warren). Your only option would be to start a new
account -- "DMG" is still available....
James can answer you better than I, but Jon Erikson is
definitely not dead. I'm surprised to confirm that
there aren't any comments on his users.pl page, but I
guess this week belongs to Dan Hayes.
(This is CP0005)
[luisa|||] i don't know if i can ever be that weak and female ... So you had no Mr.Buck temptations .. :) .... my tongue feels funny and I like to lick things (people). I need a voice of reason to keep me out of trouble. ... :\/ 674/65#65 ;)3 .net) has joined #adequacy ... firefighters, police, nurses, teachers ;)t ml :-) :-) :-) lol ;P
[luisa|||] i.e. find a guy worth that loss
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[county] Why is it weak to confess your feelings to the one you feel for?
[luisa|||] because then they've got you in the knees
[luisa|||] why should i always be the one who cares the most?
[luisa|||] and on top of that, have to cop to it?
[Linux] hey grewat, big cop bust outside
[county] Because, luisa, somebody has to, and if it's them, you'll reject them.
[county] I'm not seeing many other options. How about you?
[Linux] shouting and threatening tones
[Linux] I am going to go walk the dogs past the bust while drunk
[county] What bust?
[Linux] dunno
[Linux] they are shouting at drunks, I think
[county] Who?
[Linux] maybe there will be death
[Linux] cops
[Linux] many of them
[Linux] 8 cars at least
[luisa|||] eek
[Linux] maybe I'll get shot
[county] There are 8 cop-cars full of cops shouting at drunks?
[Linux] yes
[Linux] two drunks by the sound of things
[luisa|||] county, if i find a guy i consider my equal
[luisa|||] it would all work out
[Linux] they are right past the corner of my building
[luisa|||] wait
[luisa|||] eight cops, two drunks?
[luisa|||] that is Not Right.
[Linux] i think so
* luisa||| waits for a cool song to come on
[county] You've never met a guy who you consider your equal?
[Linux] luisa|||, are you actually listening to radio broadcasts of popualr music?
[county] I suppose that makes sense, actually. Most are probably your superior or inferior.
[county] I think it's fairly obvious which side I fall on.
[luisa|||] you could be inferior
[luisa|||] but you probably know lots of things i don't
[luisa|||] and you also are more productive in daily life
[county] I am so far beyond you, luisa.
[county] Come on.
[luisa|||] i love cheesy 80s music
[luisa|||] nah, you are just different
[luisa|||] the measure would be if i made you feel weak and helplessly resentful
[luisa|||] that's inferior
[luisa|||] and only assessable face to face
[Linux] luisa|||, you spin me twice 'round, baby.
[county] If you made me feel weak and helplessly resentful? Haha.
[luisa|||] well, anyone who feels like a lesser person probably is
[luisa|||] or at least is not worth bothering with
[em] you guys still going on about this? God.
[county] Only a few people have made me inferior, and none of them were at all like you.
[luisa|||] it is friday night and neither of us are out carousing, em
[luisa|||] whatever did you expect would occur?
[em] neither am I.
[luisa|||] but you are at uni
[county] em, have you been drinking?
[em] well, I went to a chamber chorale concert.
[em] county: not a drop
[em] maybe I should.
[county] Probably. It makes you more tolerant.
[luisa|||] anyhow, county, it is all moot
[luisa|||] i am not going to bed with you
[luisa|||] so the question of whether you are inferior or not will never come up
[county] I'm not going to bed with you. What of it?
[county] Anyway, it has come up, and it's been settled. I'm superior.
[luisa|||] if you feel that you are
[luisa|||] i do rather want to go to bed
[luisa|||] but i just finished supper
* em wonders if he has anything edible in the fridge.
[luisa|||] i have lovely soup i made from random ingredients
[Linux] katsup is a vegetable
[luisa|||] only for bachelors
[luisa|||] lord, it is four am rising
[county] It's "catsup" or "ketchup."
[luisa|||] okbed
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[Linux] night, wheesie
[Linux] I am really nothing like a viking, btw
[county] Oh, I'm sure.
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[Marco`] Hi
[Marco`] Anyone alive?
* Marco` 's off
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[me0w] g'morning
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[bc] hello
[me0w] Hi bc
[bc] hellow me0wsy
* bc was just in the pub
[bc] and you know what?
[me0w] What?
[bc] a woman in her late forties started coming onto me something dreadful
[bc] unlike some, I wasn't in the least tempted
[me0w] Ahhh
[bc] certainly not
[me0w] Well done!
[bc] it's not a great achievement, I think these things are in your nature.
[bc] Either you adore OAP's, or you don't.
[bc] cool
[bc] scotland beat south africa at the rugby!
[me0w] I think though, in Mr. Buck's case, he may have been wearing some good quality Beer Goggles.
[bc] that's a point. Still, I did have 3 pints, I wasn't entirely sober, but probably not as many Mr Buck. I think alcohol just decreases your reserve, it doesn't make you suddenly find things attractive you don't while sober
[bc] I mean, if you wake up after a night out with a member of your own sex (for example), it prolly says something
* bc has some prawns
[me0w] This is why everyone needs a voice of reason when drinking. I take mine along whenever I am going to be consuming cast quantities of alcohol (the voice of reason is also known as the designated driver).
[bc] hehe
[me0w] cast = vast
[bc] strange, I don't have problems. In fact, I reject much more impressively and fullsomely when drunk than when sober. I don't need no stinkin' voice of reason!
[me0w] When I am intoxicated I run across a problem
[bc] haha! I remember you mentioning this before. That's an awful affliction, though prolly pretty amusing
[me0w] And apparently I become quite the mischevious girl and for this I also need the voice.
[bc] to stop you mixing it up too much? Playing tricks and pranks
[me0w] And the licking
[bc] this makes you sound like quite the handful when pissed
[me0w] A giggly handful, yes.
[me0w] That's why I need a voice of reason.
[bc] I don't think I'm too bad when drunk. In fact, I'm often the voice of reason for other people, despite that we have all drunk hideous amounts. I'm just the same as usual, but more exhuberantly, I suppose. I think I have a good head for booze by nature, that's prolly why
[bc] mm that was tasty
[bc] post-prandial smoke time
[me0w] enjoy
* bc wonders whether to watch "contact" on dvd, which he has, but hasn't watched, though he read the book years ago
[bc] which I liked, I liked the way it was all about revelation, and its validity
[bc] the woman in it was sort of like a hardcore kurobot at first, you know, utterly logical positivist and materialist and dismissive of anything that can't be proved utterly, of revelation, till it all comes back and bites her when she has her own revelatory experience
[me0w] I don't think I have ever seen this film.
[bc] it's supposed to be decent.
[bc] I think a lot of people hated it, and another lot of people loved it
[me0w] I will have to add it to my must see list of films.
[bc] it's a sort of SF thing, in a way, and I think a lot of the people who disliked it were expecting some usual guns'n'aliens shite
[me0w] I normally don't watch 'alien' movies.
[bc] it's not really like that. The book wasn't at least. It's set present day
[bc] they discover an alien signal
[bc] this woman does
[bc] and there's lots of politics and argument about it
[bc] and she is hardcore rationalist and dismissive of the religious people
[bc] but in the end, she ends up having an experience that everybody doubts she had, a revelation..
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[bc] hey ct
[me0w] Good Afternoon Captain
[bc] el capitano
[Captain_Tenille] Ahoy
[Captain_Tenille] What goes on in these parts?
* Captain_Tenille finally got some sleep last night
[bc] You are admirably offensive; you have won. I am offended, many times over. Now please, leave me the fuck alone. --infinitera
[Captain_Tenille] ?
[bc] I am not admirably offensive
* Captain_Tenille wades through the k5rap
[me0w] There was nothing interesting on K5 this morning
[Captain_Tenille] Nope. Doesn't look like it.
[Captain_Tenille] Yawn
[Captain_Tenille] All right, time to make breakfast, I think
[Captain_Tenille] I may be on later.
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[me0w] they leave so quickly
[bc] yes
[me0w] I made coffee, but now I find I'm too lazy to go and pour it.
[bc] Catch 22 then
[bc] you need some caffeine to rouse you to pour it
[me0w] I need to hire someone to make it for me.
[me0w] But this person must agree to be paid in post-it notes as I have no funds.
[me0w] My new site format seems to be coming along. I might actually like it.
[bc] hehe
* bc is writing a ranty comment
[me0w] Will it be exciting?
[bc] maybe if you like seeing infinitera being attacked, otherwise it's prolly not your thing
[bc] it will be 0ed though, as usual, by him
[bc] but shant be in the hidden wueue for long
[me0w] I will give it a 5 if it is exciting
[bc] yay
[bc] http://www.kuro5hin.org/comments/2002/11/15/17928
[bc] there you go me0w
[me0w] I am giving you a 5 for the number of words you used
[bc] woohoo!
[bc] I quite often start typing, and type and type and type in fury
[bc] and I don't really attack him personally till towards the end
[bc] infinitera is a twat
[me0w] Well, I think the "I think you a cunt" might be a bit insulting
[bc] it's possible
[me0w] For some anyway
[me0w] I might take that as a compliment.
[bc] I'd just laugh and respond in kind
[bc] I don't understand the people who get so worked up about lack of civility on the internet
[bc] it's all just a laugh
[me0w] It is all for my amusement
[bc] when ubu and I met, we were calling each other cunts immediately, and being dreadfully insulting. We knew instantly we liked the other
[me0w] That is when you know it is true love.
[bc] indeed. I don't love ubu like a brother, I love him like the homosexual partner I never had
[me0w] I should send flowers to celebrate your relationship.
[bc] that would be very nice of you. The anniversary is very soon, actually
[me0w] Brilliant!
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[bc] hi, gurrrrl
[gurl] hullo, you
[me0w] Hello
[gurl] christ i overslept
[bc] what time is it where you are? 11:30?
[gurl] twelve thirty
[bc] damn firemen
[bc] striking bastards, is what they are
[bc] there was a housefire here, the soldiers had to break the picketlines, and 6 people were injured due to smoke inhallation. The firemen deliberately tried to stop the aid going out to the fire
[me0w] That isn't good.
[me0w] I can understand the strike, but preventing aid is not ethical.
[bc] the fire service should be shut down and replaced with a nice big charity
[bc] they get £21,000 as a starting wage, the firemen, which is well above the national average wage, After a few years, it rises considerably further, and they have already been offered an 11% raise and rejected it - they are going for 30% (!)
[bc] for what? 99% of the time they are sitting about playing cards
[me0w] 21,000 is far too little
[bc] the fire service should be like the RNLI
[bc] me0w, that's a starting wage for a newly qualified fireman
[bc] the national average wage for everyone is £17,000
[bc] this isn't a rich country like America, with its closer embrace of capitalism, where the national average is more like £30,000
[me0w] I guess I just know people who make more than that.
[me0w] I still think 21,000 is rather low
[bc] £21,000 is perfectly decent as a starting wage
[bc] nurses get £14,000, soldiers £16000, as starting wages
[bc] policemen £17,000
[me0w] Nurses should get more, as well as police men
[me0w] The train people should get less.
[bc] well, ideally I'm sure everybody would be getting £1,000,000 annually, but I'm not willing to see the government take more than half my earnings away to give to these people. If they don't want to work for those wages, they can switch to the private sector.
[bc] and yes, the train sods especially suck
[bc] they went on strike at glasgow underground forcing me to walk 6 miles through highly dodgy parts of glasgow in the rain
[me0w] I think that there are certain professions that should be paid more
[bc] I think it is fine, as long as the money isn't stolen by threat of violence off others to do so.
[gurl] er, no.
[bc] a free market would sort them out, it is only ever public sector workers that strike anyway.
[gurl] nothing teachers do warrants more money
[bc] they'd pay fairly
[gurl] nurses get paid very well for their hours and labour
[me0w] nurses are underpaid
[gurl] at least, if the flooded nursing schools are any indication
[bc] also, funnily enough teachers in scotland just got a 25% increase a couple of years ago. There is now a big "brain drain" of the best teachers from england to scotland. heh!
[me0w] Which is why there are a shortage - they go places where they will be better paid
[gurl] yes, and that is the hospital down the road
[gurl] it is a highly paid but stressful job
[gurl] not everyone can hack it
[gurl] thus, the shortage
[bc] here, all the best doctors and nurses go to America
[bc] where they get paid decently
[me0w] A large number of nursing students in Canada go to the US, and the Middle East - they are usually paid more than double what they make here
[bc] we in turn import from India and scandinavia
[gurl] haha
[gurl] but scanadinavia is supposed to be the perfect country!
[gurl] all socialist paradise and whatnot
[gurl] well, the countries in that region
[bc] not judging by the delectable nurses at my local hospital, loads of whom are danish, norwegian, swedish
[gurl] well, being raised socialist apparently doesn't kill the desire to earn a fair wage for services and all that
[bc] norwegian especially, but I think that is because lots of norwegians come to scotland anyway, cos it is quite close
[gurl] lord, i don't want to go bed shopping
[bc] it certainly doesn't, gurl
[bc] shopping in bed, or shopping for a bed?
[gurl] for a bed
[bc] get one that doesn't creak or have annoying springs
[bc] the best bed I ever had was one that was a platform of wood planks, with a really thin mattress on top
[bc] that thing was great
[bc] prolly quite cheap, too
[gurl] i just want a futon
[bc] never tried one of those, are they good?
[me0w] Get a sturdy futon
[me0w] Over time the frame can bend
[gurl] i was thinking a metal one
[me0w] You'll want a thick mattress on it (if they give that option)
[bc] cool
* bc watches Only Fools and Horses
[gurl] actually, i will go tomorrow since i cannot carry the sodding thing home with me
[bc] hehe
[gurl] i think i'll just take the bed frame from my old bed
[gurl] and buy a new mattress
[bc] heh. Sounds good
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[gurl] it's a gorgeous day
[gurl] but utterly cold and crystal clear out
[bc] I love that
[bc] cold and clear
[bc] and sunny
[bc] perfect weather as far as I'm concerned
[bc] gurl, how did it go with that chap?
[gurl] he friend zoned me
[bc] ah hah
[bc] I did that to a girl week last week after a date. It's surprisingly hard. Requires delicacy
[gurl] so i have a perfectly nice male friend
[bc] well that's something at least
[bc] I have a nice big fillet steak and some English mustard
[gurl] i have a hearty beef stew
[bc] oh splendid
[gurl] haha
[gurl] i am reading about the french foreign legion
[bc] oh yes. That's France's only *professional* section of the army eh?
[bc] I know someone who served in it for 21 years
[gurl] it is terribly intensive
[bc] yes
[bc] long marching through the desert and stuff
[gurl] and no girls allowed!
[bc] http://britishsas.8m.com/training.html
[bc] ^I think that is about the globally hardest training&selection for any regiment
[bc] they are insane
[bc] as part of it, they have the applicant (after a week of insane marching and activity) look after a pet rabbit in the mountains for a while. he is completely alone, and must forage for his own food and protect the rabbit for ages. Then, he recieves an order to kill and eat the rabbit
[bc] quite sadistic
[gurl] haha
[gurl] there's a kill house?!
[bc] they are special forces
[bc] anti-terrorist stuff is one of their duties
[bc] storming embassies, say, like when they stormed the Iranian embassy and freed all the hostages in London in the 80's
[bc] they were the first special forces unit in the world, created during WWII
[gurl] lordy
[bc] Delta Force in the US was founded in the 70's by an American officer who lobbied for it after seeing the SAS and serving in an exchange program in the UK army
[bc] but they aren't as good. They have a slightly different ethos. Delta Force peeps tend to be really big and brawny, and their modus operandi is to be flown in on a big helicopter and shoot everything up before being flown away again
[bc] the SAS are different, in that they believe in more traditional marching and approaching the target on foot. They tend to get dropped far away, sneak about hundreds of miles, attack, and sneak away. And they operate in teams of 8 generally
[bc] http://home.hccnet.nl/22.sas/Operation%20Nimrod.h
[bc] ^that was mad
[bc] I remember watching it on tv
[gurl] so the sas do it properlike
[gurl] well, more like people think such things work
[bc] of course! ie, no hostage deaths, all terrorists dead, seemingly miraculously
[bc] it's sort of amazing
[bc] another famous one was the scud stuff during the gulf war
[bc] one of their missions went wrong, they were given wrong maps
[bc] and they were euipped for desert conditions, but it was frequently -20C and snowing etc
[bc] and they got discovered and stormed by two lorry loads of iraqi tropps, tanks, etc, from a local base
[bc] so the 8 of them killed ALL of them, then walked 100km overnight carrying 80lb bergens in freezing conditions
[bc] they are sort of insane those people. Not qute normal, but very good at what they do (wholesale, efficient slaughter)
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[gurl] damn
[bc] and also, cos it is UK army, it is not just UKians, they select from many countries in the commonwealth
[gurl] reminds me of stephen king's gunslinger
[bc] so canadians and australians and NZers and Nepalians can see the SAS as the peak of their career, if they are good enough to make it through selection
[Captain_Tenille] SAS?
[bc] yes
[gurl] british special forces
[Captain_Tenille] Aha
* Captain_Tenille always thought MI5 and MI6 were cool acronyms
[bc] hehe
[Captain_Tenille] Although for the longest time I thought it was M16
[Captain_Tenille] Which seemed odd
[bc] ct, during WWI it went from MI1 all the way to MI20
[bc] also, MI5 & MI6 didn't officially exist until very recently
[Captain_Tenille] I was just about to ask what happened to MI1-4
[gurl] heh
[bc] having no constitutional checks, the government is free to deny they exist at all
[gurl] haha
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[gurl] oh look@
[gurl] er, nevermind
[Captain_Tenille] The US gov denied the existence of the NSA forever.
[bc] same as SAS, which didn't officially exist till the 90's,, and is still v.secret
[Captain_Tenille] I don't think they officially acknowledge the Delta Force
[bc] the SAS are fun because they are the first special forces group, and most other western country's special forces groups were founded, usually much later, on that model, often by officers who saw the SAS in exchange programmes and thought it a jolly good idea
[bc] Delta Force being a case in point, in the 70's. Same with Germany's, france's. Greece's, Israel's, etc etc
[bc] but SAS are teh best!
[gurl] it is impressive what humans can be taught to do
[Captain_Tenille] Is SAS just Green Beret style special forces, or does it include PSYOPS and Civil Affairs type stuff
[Captain_Tenille] ?
[bc] that's the other thing with the SAS, the complete lack of traditional army discipline, which was very new
[bc] ct: it is mostly military and anti-terrorist
[bc] there is another group that specialises in civil intelligence
[bc] that sometimes work with the SAS, but the SAS are purely a military machine
[Captain_Tenille] Civil Affairs handles the military's relations with the governments of the countries they're in.
[Captain_Tenille] Should said government fall, they set up a caretaker government in it's place.
* Captain_Tenille 's dad did that for a long time
[bc] coo
[gurl] bc, my sibling is all rotting in the county jail
[bc] haha
[bc] what'd he do?
[gurl] his warrant caught up to him
[bc] damn
[gurl] he owes about 400£ in fines
[Captain_Tenille] I just found out yesterday, actually, what my dad did after he worked as a codebreaker during the Vietnam War.
[county] bc, you've millions, get gurl's brother out of the clink.
[bc] he deserves it, county
[bc] Contributing to the skill of the SAS is the Operations Research Unit which develops unique equipment for use by the SP team.
[county] That's beside the point. She'll be indebted to you.
[bc] ^^hehe, that's like "m" in james bond
[gurl] bc, he found a job
[gurl] and now he will lose it
[gurl] because of extended absence
[bc] damn it
[bc] what's he fined for?
[Captain_Tenille] Aren't you guys going to ask what my dad did?
[bc] isn't that classified, ct?
[Captain_Tenille] He didn't tell me much.
[gurl] speeding ticket, i think
[Captain_Tenille] Just enough to make me boggle.
[Captain_Tenille] zuul, he?
[zuul] he is not
[bc] but he was army, eh? mad
[Captain_Tenille] Wouldn't tell me what he did
[gurl] then why build us up so cruelly]?
[Captain_Tenille] NSA. That's all we would say.
[Captain_Tenille] er, he
[county] Come on, bc, give her brother a chance.
[county] He's trying to turn is life around!
[county] He's in jail because of ancient history.
[bc] you're right county. I will bail him right away.
[county] Good man.
[county] I'm sure gurl will be very grateful.
[gurl] some woman is presently trying to adopt me
[county] But you're too old for that.
[bc] is she older, and with grown up children who have flown the nest?
[gurl] yeah, pretty much
[gurl] except her grown kids are still in the nest
[county] And she wants more.
[gurl] she thinks i'm a unique snowflake
[gurl] and wants to feed and clothe me and all that
[bc] weird, gurl
[gurl] aye
[bc] weird weird weird
[gurl] and the annoying guy at work who kept trying to pay me to go out with him
[county] So are you going to take her up on it?
[gurl] he got in a horrible car wreck and was fired
[gurl] she is rather like mother
[gurl] except less manipulative and deceitful
[county] Did he get fired for getting in the car wreck?
[gurl] not quite
[gurl] he was fired for trying to come back to work
[gurl] with a broken neck
[bc] he offered you money? heh, how desperate
[gurl] well, he is married
[gurl] and also i don't want him
[gurl] but he just couldn't seem to accept that
[bc] "Please come out with me?" - "No." - "I'll give you £500."
[county] That's really harsh.
[bc] it's damned right, gurl
[county] He was so dedicated to his work that he wanted to come in, but he got fired instead!
[bc] I'm proud of you!
[county] Couldn't they just tell him to go home and sleep it off?
[gurl] he got in the accident whilst drunk
[gurl] and it was off duty anyhow
[gurl] so they can easily get him on inability to perform
[gurl] and he could hardly even sit down
[gurl] the doctor hadn't signed a release
[gurl] so however cruel it sounds, they had every reasonable right to fire him
[county] Still, to be unemployed and mangled in these times is difficult. He'll probably end up on the street.
[gurl] no, his wife is utterly devoted and loving
[gurl] and makes piles of money
[gurl] she wanted only to take care of him
[county] He has a devoted wife who makes lots of money, but wants a little on the side too?
[county] That seems risky.
[gurl] but he wanted to go drinking and sleep with other women
[county] I should find a rich, devoted wife.
[county] Having one could be convenient.
[gurl] it was the only thing that saved him
[county] Some guys have all the luck.
[bc] hehe
[gurl] i am sure bc would happily arrange for you to acquire a wealthy wife
[bc] it's true. There's a lucky sod I know who's wife is a civil engineer making tons of cash. All he does is footer about spending her money on computers and crap. They love each other very much and seem very happy. Sickening, it is.
[county] Yeah, I need someone to take care of me!
[county] I'm tired of being responsible.
[bc] BRB, mobile shop
[gurl] have a beer
[gurl] actually, have five or six
[county] What's a mobile shop?
[county] Anyway, that's too many beers.
[gurl] well, however many will intoxicate you
[gurl] women like to help men in that state
[county] Haha!
[county] What nonsense.
[county] Women hate drunks.
[gurl] depends on the drunk boy
[gurl] i find some of them endearing
[bc] damn it's cold
[county] Well, what do you expect? Your house was built before heat was invented
[county] What's a mobile shop, though?
[bc] I am an endearing drunk boy. My cold reserve melts away, revealing a vulnerable and heartbreakingly fascinating character. I find that women are much more interested in me when drunk, than when sober.
[county] uh huh
[bc] county, a shop on wheels that drives around selling things. It parks outside my front door
[county] What sort of things?
[bc] in this instance, I got dunhills and Irn Bru, and a bottle of Gin
[county] So you've gone back to the bottle.
[county] tsk tsk.
[bc] all sorts, county. There are many of them, in fact. Soem are mobile butchers, others mobile grocers and fishmongers. This one sells everyday necessities
[county] Like I said, though, some guys have all the luck. When sober, I'm undesirable. When intoxicated, I'm undesirable in a different way.
[county] Everyday necessities like dunhills, Irn Bru, and gin.
[bc] Yup.
[county] dunhills sound like cigarettes. What's Irn Bru?
[bc] they sell what's sold most in the local community
[bc] county: http://www.bevnet.com/reviews/irn-bru/index.asp
[gurl] what's a good poll topick before i hotfoot it elsewhere?
[bc] poll? hmmn
[county] I don't think I've ever seen any of that, bc.
[bc] favourite spirit?
[gurl] irn bru is only in scotland
[county] That would be all you can think of.
[bc] county, well, it is actually illegal in the US, the FDA won't allow it to be sold there
[bc] so it isn't surprising
[county] gurl, "Favorite condiment to lick off nipples?"
[bc] it contains too much iron, or something
[county] Be sure to include horseradish as an option.
[wsl3] county: Hot Thai Red Curry
[bc] it's very very popular in russia though
[Captain_Tenille] What on earth is it? And why is it illegal?
[bc] ct, it's just a soft drink. It's illegal cos the FDA don't like it's iron content
[wsl3] What is?
[Captain_Tenille] Ah
[gurl] man, i suppose i am not cut out for daytime drinking
[gurl] my tummy hurts now
[wsl3] gurl: Have some nice cock. That should solve the problem, but only if you get all the way down and get the protien suprise at the end.
[gurl] i don't see how
[gurl] protein makes my tummy hurt
[wsl3] They'll cancel each other out.
[gurl] i somehow doubt this.
[gurl] i love my diary.
[wsl3] Nah, I can show you if you want!
[county] Give up, wsl3. The fact is, you can only score with fatties.
[wsl3] give it up county, the fact is, I don't care what you think.
[county] That doesn't make any sense, idiot. I wasn't trying to influence your opinion.
[bc] I love your diary too, gurl =)))
[gurl] hehe
[wsl3] county: Uh huh.
[gurl] there is nothing wrong with fatties, if they have attractive features
[gurl] and don't look like useless lumps of crap
[wsl3] Bingo!
* wsl3 is a FFA
[gurl] fatty fucker anonymous?
[wsl3] LOL
[wsl3] FFA == Fullfigured Female Admirer
[gurl] oh god
[county] Vlad's fatties look like useless lumps of crap, gurl.
[gurl] i HATE those
[wsl3] county is a useless lump of crap
[county] These women aren't fat, gurl, they're disgustingly hyper-obese.
[wsl3] gurl - hate what? Voluptous women?
[county] 300lbs.
[gurl] a girl can be voluptuous without being heavy
[bc] FFA give BBWs TLC and have a GSOH
[county] A three hundred pound woman isn't voluptuous.
[county] She's hyper-obese.
[wsl3] county: I know lots of attractive 300lb women.
[gurl] no, that's a porker
[gurl] i don't know any.
[county] You don't know any!
[county] You're delusional.
[wsl3] Depends - what if she's like 6' tall?
[gurl] and i know some decent looking big girls
[gurl] then she shouldn't exceed 250
[wsl3] gurl: Top size?
[gurl] and that only if she is super muscular
[wsl3] gurl: Nah - I've seen women as high as 400lbs that I'd do.
[gurl] well, men are less picky about that
[county] I'm not.
[county] I'm not interested in girls much over 150.
[gurl] well, that leaves the taller ones out
[gurl] unless they are very slim
[Captain_Tenille] Tall girls are overrated
[wsl3] gurl: That depends - in general I don't find a woman attractive under 175 or so unless she is stunningly beautiful and has a personallity to match.
[Captain_Tenille] *under* 175?
[gurl] that is a shame for you, wsl3
[county] I don't much like taller girls, gurl.
[wsl3] under, yes.
[gurl] i personally think too many people are heavy
[county] Much beyond 5'6" is too tall, I think.
* Captain_Tenille 's gf is 5'
[wsl3] gurl: I don't find it a shame at all! I have a full, active, loving sex life, thank you very much.
[gurl] but that said, i don't mind heavy people who don't whine about it
[gurl] of course you do
* wsl3 doesn't whine - he has no cheese to go with it.
[gurl] i know lots of plain couples that can't get enough of each other
[Captain_Tenille] Off to get a hair cut.
[Captain_Tenille] Ta ta.
[gurl] which is great for them
[gurl] hasta
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[bc] woohoo
[bc] there's nothing wrong with plain people. Or even ugly people, if they are self confident enough and interesting and especially good natured enough
[gurl] ok, i have to fix someone's cd rom
[bc] happy hacking!
[gurl] well, that is true of anyone
[county] Aye, and there's the rub, bc.
[gurl] there is no hacking involved!
[county] It's easier to become beautiful than it is to become interesting or good natured.
[gurl] it's purely a mechanical issue
[county] If one isn't already.
[bc] you are fixing a technical computer device
[gurl] bof, i am fixing a thingy with serrated wheels
[bc] with what, you say?
[bc] that sounds complicated
[gurl] little wheels with chopped bits
[county] A serrated wheel? Isn't that a gear?
[bc] I'm a man, I don't understand technical things, I just leave it to women
[gurl] yeah, i guess
[gurl] two little gears that aren't spinning the drive out
[county] Well, get that cute little can of yours over there and start fixing things!
[county] Chop chop!
[gurl] i have to finish my beer
[gurl]
[county] bc, what should I do with myself today?
[bc] I think you should go to the pub
*** gurl is now known as cdromgurl
[county] It's kind of dismal out.
[bc] and drink beer, play darts, and watch the match
[cdromgurl] yes, do go, since i cannot
[cdromgurl] wave
[bc] that's why I didn't suggest the park, county
[bc] bye happy hackess!
[county] I don't know where any pubs are. In fact, I think they're illegal in Seattle.
[bc] http://www.nwbrewpage.com/wabpubs/WestSea.html
[bc] go there
[wsl3] lol
[bc] though I must say, the huge billboard sign at the front puts me off
[bc] here, they just have a tiny sign
[bc] I suppose Americans insist on the 25foot billboard treatment
[county] That's really far away.
[bc] get the metro then!
[county] Anyway, going to a pub is way too social.
[bc] you don't need to talk to anyone
[bc] clearly, you aren't very familiar with pubs at all
[bc] they can be profoundly antisocial
[county] Of course I don't, but I feel odd being out by myself.
[county] There isn't any point in going out to be anti-social.
[wsl3] Go nude. That will get some attention.
[county] Shut up.
[wsl3] no
[wsl3] You can forget about that.
[wsl3] If I'm in front of my computer, and I see something I want to respond to, I will - same as you.
[county] Shut up, really.
[wsl3] No.
[wsl3] really.
[bc] blargle
[wsl3] bc: What's new with Kip? Has anyone seen him?
[bc] heis in London, that's all I know
[county] I'm going to go shower.
[county] When I come back, I'm going to have some booze, a pastrami sandwich, and pour at my innermost hopes and dreams.
[county] "out"
[wsl3] ah
[bc] looking forward to it
[wsl3] Well, I'll be quite for that.
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[Sulla] hey momo
From: cptroll
d =2755) so I make up an
B 40" X-Priority: Ê3
t .com/~wsl3/+vladinator).
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: [k22320inchfan] Vladinator needs a beatdown
Date sent: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 20:04:50 -0400
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0028)
I'm trying to give george his account back
(http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=trolltalk&ci
appropriate throwaway email address and post it. Vladinator, being the
prick he is, sends me this email:
>From Ê"Anony Mouse" <anony_mouse1969@hotmail.com> ÊÊ ÊMon, 23 Oct 2000
>17:44:17 -0500 Subject: Êokay I'm writing you To: Ê
From ??? Fri Feb 19 09: Ê25
From anony_mouse1969@hotmail.com Mon Oct 23 18: Ê46
[snip]
>X-Originating-IP: Ê[209.96.17.98]
>Date: ÊMon, 23 Oct 2000 17
>MIME-Version: Ê1.0
>Content-Type: Êmultipart/alternative;
>boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C03D18.DD858
>X-MSMail-Priority: ÊNormal X-Mailer: ÊMicrosoft Outlook Express
>5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: ÊProduced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
>Message-ID: Ê X-OriginalArrivalTime: Ê23 Oct 2000 22
>
>okay I (george) wrote you so can I have my account back please?
Now, anyone with a half a brain and a reverse-ip lookup can see that that
originating IP corresponds to postnet.com and Vlad's own account
(http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:home.postne
If that's a permanent ip address, then vlad deserves whatever he gets
from anyone here who is more learned in the h4xx0r ways than I.
(This is CP0028)
The new year is almost upon us and I thought it might be a nice gift to the faithful
readers of trolltalk to offer this sneak preview of upcoming movies, scheduled to be
released in 2003. Enjoy!
Vladman
The story of a troubled man whose Momma was tormented by prank callers. The phoning
episode leaves young Scott scarred for life and spawns a dark alter ego, "Vladman", who
fights peaceful, quiet internet communities with his grossly obese superpowers and
profound lack of intelligence. This film is a sure-fire hit, starring Roseanne Barr
as "Momma" and Ernest Borgnine in the title role.
Vlad Max
This low budget action film comes from Australia. Food is scarce in a post-war society
and a band of roving maniacs find a treasure-trove of food in the Lockwood family. Vlad
escapes the pack of cannibals and swears revenge. With a blood-red bib and a giant salad
fork, Vlad goes on a feeding rampage! Starring Marlon Brando in the title role.
Jaws IV: The Attack of Vlad
After defeating three shark attacks, the residents of Amity Island are besieged by a new
behemoth from the deep. In this latest installment in the Jaws series, a giant,
man-eating monstrosity rises from the depths to devour entire ships and then pollutes
the shoreline with its massive feces. Who will be brave enough to stand up to this
new threat?
Vlad and Reza's Excellent Adventure
In this comedic masterpiece, our heroes travel through time in a makeshift deep-freezer
to sample culinary delights throughout the ages. But what will Vlad and Reza do once
their mass exceeds the capacity of the freezer?? I won't tell, but you can bet it is
hilarious!
Enter The Whale
An action-packed martial arts movie. You will be amazed at Vlad's special style of
martial arts in this film. It's almost as if the attackers bounce right off of Vlad
before he even moves. One criticism I have of this movie, however, is the makeup.
Throughout the picture, Vlad appears flushed and excessively sweaty.
That's it for now. Stay tuned for a special preview of a new CD where your
favorite rabbis cover some of America's greatest pop hits!
From: cptroll
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] New Debian advertisements, by me!
Date sent: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 15:55:53 -0400
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0025)
Hey, you missed part of her armpit. She's a statue with a living,
breathing armpit. I'm trying to find some irony there, but I can't.
Otherwise, jolly good show.
Craig McPherson <craig@laceyonline.com> wrote:
>I've done some unofficial new advertisements for Debian Linux.
>http://users.ipa.net/~cmcpher/newad.jpg
(This is CP0025)
From: cptroll
/saving/ it for later, but that doesn't seem to be the case if you look at jamie's past articles -- they're all over the week). Alternatively, they're just saving it for a weekday where there's more traffic and more visibility.
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] how long do story submissions usually take?
Date sent: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 18:10:04 -0500
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0034)
The biggest possibility is that they're saving it for jamie to do some background research and write up a big article (more than just a blurb). That would seem likely, except you'd probably have heard from your friend about it, since he's the first one they'd contact (except if jamie doesn't work on weekends and they're actually
I once had a submission take more than a day to get rejected, but that was only because it first got accepted before eventually having that acceptance rescinded. I never did figure that one out.
I'm personally annoyed, because being as pathetic as I am, I actually got up early several times this morning to check the front page and make sure it hadn't been posted over night. I obviously care too damn much.
jlb <jlb@io.com> wrote:
>It's been in the queue over 24 hours now, I think, not rejected yet. How
>long does this usually take? (In the past, my story suggestions usually
>get rejected right away.:)
>
>Maybe they're checking up on the facts.
>
>*waits for laughter to die down*
>
>Okay, but why is it taking so long? Do you think any of you who talk to
>rub & co could ask them to try and push the story through? I do have
>some personal interest in it, besides being decent troll fodder.
>
>-lb
(This is CP0034)
This offer is no longer available. It's only being posted here to let Vladequacy see that they HAD the chance to avoid the destruction that is now upon them.
* * *
An amnesty is being extended to those with Adequacy affiliations, and others who may wish to save themselves from what is to come. You are being given one final chance to join teh winning team and avoid destruction. On January 1st, 2003, you can witness history in teh making and be forevar remembered as a part of teh greatest revolution in teh history of Trolling. Or you can be ground into dust by teh jackboot of obscurity, relegated to teh dustbins of trolling history as teh non-person has-beens you currently are.
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This will be your only warning.
Join us or die. CAN you do any less?
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;). If someone had created a 'KTB' character on k5 before I had, I would probably have been annoyed, but only because I may want to extend the character, insofar as I have developed it, onto k5 as well. The thing is, *I* am not really on the internet much at all. It seems that Siggy is, though, from what I can tell. He seems to be really into writing those torrid diaries, and exploring rather private parts of his personality in the most public of places - such as his sexuality, as 'Going For -100 Karma' publicised on /. If he really is exposing his true self to the k5 audience, this may be why he has become so defensive about the 'Bojay Iverson' thing - I would certainly be in a panic in his situation, if I thought the online world could reach into the real world and give me a kicking. I don't think I'll ever write diaries on k5, or if I do, they won't be about me, thats for sure. It freaks me out a little how easy it is to get information about someone on the internet, and the last thing I want want is an online diary, that will never expire, being accessible to all and sundry. I don't know, I just find the idea of posting your personal thoughts for all the world to see rather strange, if not a little ;)
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* * * *
From: Barry Corrigan <barry@bjcorrigan.fsnet.co.uk>
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] talk about smoking crack...
Date sent: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 07:41:16 +0000
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
I find it interesting that it is possible to extend your ego to the internet to the degree that siggy seems to have done. I haven't used the
internet for very long (thats the UK for you), but I can certainly see how its possible to end up actually caring about some online persona.
Personally, I don't give a shit, but thats because I don't have an online persona that is actually me (does this post negate that? I'm not telling you
creepy. Perhaps its a Britain-America thing, I've heard that Americans are not shy, in fact sometimes I think they have never heard of the concept of embarrassment. So there you go
Sorry for this bollocks.
On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, you wrote:
> Hi. I couldn't stay away, so I scrounged up some 'net
> access. Hi.
>
> I was talking with rusty indirectly about this, last
> night. He was asking me why I wanted k5 Anne Marie's
> nick -- that is, why I wanted to carry that "slashdot
> baggage" over with me to k5, the same way siggy did.
> It's funny, that way. I wanted k5 Anne Marie because
> it's a lovely character troll of mine. Siggy wanted
> "Signal 11" because it's the only way he's ever gotten
> a lot of (any) attention. He's afraid to be just
> Bojay Iverson, and it really comes across.
>
> --- Barry Corrigan
> wrote:
> >
> > Wow. I think I understand now why everyone seems to
> > dislike Signal 11 so much.
> > I mean, that has to be one of the most arrogant
> > things I've read, ohhh, all
> > week!
> > It was also extremely funny. Does he think he is an
> > internet celebrity or
> > something? In that post he came across as a jaded
> > Hollywood star.
> > Oh well, back to the horribleness of Java...
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, you wrote:
> > >
> >
> http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=comments&sid=2000/12/
> > >
> > > "Most of the best trolls on slashdot, I suspect,
> > were inspired by me. "
> > >
> > > i actually feel sorry for the guy. he needs some
> attention.
From: cptroll
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] New Debian advertisements, by me!
Date sent: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 15:55:53 -0400
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0025)
Hey, you missed part of her armpit. She's a statue with a living,
breathing armpit. I'm trying to find some irony there, but I can't.
Otherwise, jolly good show.
Craig McPherson <craig@laceyonline.com> wrote:
>I've done some unofficial new advertisements for Debian Linux.
>http://users.ipa.net/~cmcpher/newad.jpg
(This is CP0025)
1. Create mechanical butterfly robots
2.
3. Profit!
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=20721&cid=4682 572 ;but i drunk.5 437m enu=news.weirdworld.sexlife :(
<bc> hehe
<bc> god I suck
<bc> hey FI
<First_Incision> I will not discout the possibility that you suck.
<bc> A wise move FI
<abu_zeqqzeqq> bc: if craig is as fucked up as he seemse
<abu_zeqqzeqq> that will push him to new extremes...
<bc> hehee
<First_Incision> I never understood the stone women thing. Is osm still perving around somewhere?
<momocrome> http://www.clusterlizard.org
<momocrome> osm's site ^^
<bc> yes, though who knows what he's up to
<abu_zeqqzeqq> bc: change your nick to "Abu'l Hayjeh "
<momocrome> he has a bunch of uninspired match.com pseudo-trolls
<momocrome> picking on hapless, lonely women
<bc> that irc log is hilarious
<dmg> that takest the biscuit
<bc> [bc] vlad... i'2 type 'mo
<dmg> I laughed
<momocrome> post the text to 20721
<momocrome> stir the pot a bit
<momocrome> I am going to rise to their baiting
<momocrome> even thoughI haven't been singled out
<bc> haha
<bc> I must read more now
<bc> county: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=20721&cid=467
<ivan> Ignore the superfluous comma.
<bc> does that seem accurate to you?
<ivan> All of them =)
<ivan> thx
*** First_Incision is now known as fi-away
<ivan> I can't say, bc. I didn't read it.
<ivan> Should I?
<bc> Yes, you should
<ivan> Haha!
<abu_zeqqzeqq> http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_686841.html?
<ivan> It almost looks real.
<ivan> The one problem is that shoeboy is LOLing too much and Vladinator isn't doing it enough.
<bc> I'm kind of insulted. It represents me as a pathetic drunk with delusional fantasies that I'm liked by females, and that seems entirely untrue
<abu_zeqqzeqq> gratuituous kylie pictures. Proof Allah(SWT) and Mohammed (PBUH) are REAL
<ivan> It does seem entirely untrue that you're liked by females.
<abu_zeqqzeqq> bc at least you are worthy of parody
<bc> hehe
<abu_zeqqzeqq> some of us are become stalinesque non-persons.
<abu_zeqqzeqq> airbrushed out of trolling history
<ivan> abu and I didn't even get noticed
<bc> craig&osm&trollaxor prolly still like you, dmg
<ivan> "Where's the part where Barry Corrington slags on Jin Wicked for half an hour then kisses her ass when she logs in?"
<ivan> Has Jin ever been in here?
From: Ceee Peee
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Last day at work
Date sent: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 19:28:42 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0008)
Heh, you showed more sense than I. The last time I
tried pulling a stunt like that (revealing such
affections), the object of my affection nearly drove
off the road and into some parked cars. Everything's
still fine between us, but there were those few
fleeting moments involving a high-speed vehicle and
several tons of steel which wouldn't have worked so well.
(This is CP0008)
From: cptroll
d =2755) so I make up an
B 40" X-Priority: Ê3
t .com/~wsl3/+vladinator).
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: [k22320inchfan] Vladinator needs a beatdown
Date sent: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 20:04:50 -0400
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0028)
I'm trying to give george his account back
(http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=trolltalk&ci
appropriate throwaway email address and post it. Vladinator, being the
prick he is, sends me this email:
>From Ê"Anony Mouse" <anony_mouse1969@hotmail.com> ÊÊ ÊMon, 23 Oct 2000
>17:44:17 -0500 Subject: Êokay I'm writing you To: Ê
From ??? Fri Feb 19 09: Ê25
From anony_mouse1969@hotmail.com Mon Oct 23 18: Ê46
[snip]
>X-Originating-IP: Ê[209.96.17.98]
>Date: ÊMon, 23 Oct 2000 17
>MIME-Version: Ê1.0
>Content-Type: Êmultipart/alternative;
>boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C03D18.DD858
>X-MSMail-Priority: ÊNormal X-Mailer: ÊMicrosoft Outlook Express
>5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: ÊProduced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
>Message-ID: Ê X-OriginalArrivalTime: Ê23 Oct 2000 22
>
>okay I (george) wrote you so can I have my account back please?
Now, anyone with a half a brain and a reverse-ip lookup can see that that
originating IP corresponds to postnet.com and Vlad's own account
(http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:home.postne
If that's a permanent ip address, then vlad deserves whatever he gets
from anyone here who is more learned in the h4xx0r ways than I.
(This is CP0028)
It is time to set the record straight regarding the situation with respect
to Vladinator/JCB/Reza/Lonesome Cowboy Burt/Whatever other aliases he may be
using. The situation has been confused due to the recent world-wide influx
of Vlad-haters, helper-cells, interested third parties and the occasional
Vlad sympathizer.
Let us start with a basic tenet of the Association of Anti-Vlad Avengers:
There is no difference between William Scott Lockwood III and those who
aid him, give him comfort, and/or use him as a substandard, "Always Save"
hosting solution. Though we may have no direct quarrel with you, Mr. "Trollaxor",
you appear to be friendly with Mr. Lockwood and - by your own admission - are
using him as a substandard "Always Save" hosting solution. Consider the fact
that if you were using a respectable host for your web site, you would not be
having the difficulties you are having now. Also, with this attempt at
ferreting out information for Mr. Lockwood, you are aiding and abetting our
sworn enemy and have aligned yourself in direct oposition to a powerful
internet force (that is, the AAA and its splinter groups).
This brings us to a primary characteristic of the AAA which has
been detailed elsewhere, but which I will repeat here in interest of
completeness: no single cell, as an entity, is aware of the members of
any other cell. The structure of our association works as follows. Each
cell is composed of no more and no less than three members who all reside in
a roughly similar geographic area. One of the three members is designated
as a messenger. This messenger is the only member in contact with a messenger
from exactly two other cells. In this way, the members of each cell remain
anonymous to the members of any other cell. If a messenger has been compromised,
the corresponding cell is responsible for "cleansing" that messenger and
replacing him or her with a new messenger. Such a cell will remain on
probation - meaning they will only be allowed contact with a single other
cell - until such time as the new messenger has been operating for no less
than six months.
Our activities are clandestine and even if another cell wanted to
share the information you request, it would not be able to because it
would not be privy to said information.
As you can see the AAA, though very loosely connected, operates
in a highly efficient manner and is deadly serious about the stated goals
of the organization: namely, the complete, unconditional eradication of
Vladinator, in any and all forms, from the internet.
We have been following the current situation with Vladinator's hosting
service quite closely and we estimate the damages to be severe at this point.
However, we cannot agree to end our champaign any sooner than already decided
upon. We may have shown mercy in this, our second major attack, if Mr.
Lockwood had shown the proper degree of humility at our hands. Instead,
Mr. Lockwood responded with his usual barrage of
lies
and vitriol.
For this reason, and the fact that we are otherwise bored, we have extended the
length of this attack. We realize that Mr. Lockwood's hosting company will try
various tricks to deflect our attack, things such as firewalls and IP banning. Eventually,
they will succeed in eliminating the current attack at which point we will rest for
a period of not less than seven days prior to initiating another attack.
We predict that the end of this second wave will result in another round of
cockiness from Mr. Lockwood, given the highly reactionary character that he is.
The next attack, which will be the "third wave", will be far more subtle than the
current attack and will undoubtedly shake Mr. Lockwood's faith in his current
alliances and dealings. This cycle of attack/end attack/Lockwood gets cocky/
attack again is necessary to wear down Mr. Lockwood's self-confidence and
general desire for continued existence.
As for the fate of Trollaxor.com, I would suggest you find a more suitable,
respectable host for your web site. Had you chosen your hosting solution more
wisely to begin with, you would not find yourself in the same sinking ship with
the rest of Lockwood's "customers". We would also like to remind you that it
is not we who are the enemy, it is William Scott Lockwood III who has
brought this upon himself and those who do business with him. Yes, our attacks
have been harsh and our dealings with Mr. Lockwood have been merciless, but simply
going over Mr. Lockwood's internet history shows that our cause is just and in the
best interests of the internet community at large. If we must sacrifice "innocent"
sites such as yours and kuro5hin, then so be it. It is a very small price to pay
for a truly Vladinator-free internet. An internet where true innocents can browse,
write and engage in discussion without fear of being choked at the hands of a
slobbering troglydite with bad glands
and a spastic colon.
From: Ceee Peee
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] advice?
Date sent: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 04:34:58 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0013)
Indeed, whimsy is an open account (for posting whimsical diaries) whose password is 'whimsy'. I've contributed some diaries (principally, "I was there watching the world go by" and "How to calculate your social security income") and so have felt free to abuse the account for comment posting in Anne Marie stories. My guess is the other whimsy poster is tewl, since she posted something about "oh, I didn't realize annemarie=cp" in k5tt a while back.
I share your incredulity. Anyone who reads through k5tt would know the truth. Anyone who suspected could do a search on my (cp's) comments and see I only post in anne marie's stories. Oh well. It's fun to see rusty defend me.
--- James <spiralx@spazmail.com> wrote:
> --- =?iso-8859-1?q?I=20am=20Troll?=
> <i_am_troll@yahoo.co.uk>
> > wrote:
> >I thought that you were Whimsy? Why did you just
> out
> >yourself and then ask us to mod it down? Explain
> now,
> >or I'll moderate the comment up.
>
> Nah, Whimsy is an open account anyone can use if
> they know the password, which is lost to me, but
> could be "whimsy". So at least one other person
> remembers the password and knows that cp is anne
> marie.
>
> What I'd like to know is how on Earth has cp managed
> to keep the fact that he is Anne Marie quiet so
> well? I mean, he hardly tried to keep it quiet with
> trolltalk posts and so on, and yet very few seem to
> know who Anne Marie actually is...
>
> J
>
> P.S. I really want to smoke. Bugger. Giving up
> sucks.
(This is CP0013)
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[Captain_Tenille] beeeceeee
[bc] 'ello
[ubu] hello, bic
[ubu] how are things?
[bc] alright
[ubu] we had a ridiculously interesting evening last night.
[bc] I'm better today, I sought legal advice
[ubu] ah? how was that?
[bc] about, ubu?
[bc] it was fine
[Captain_Tenille] I had to take the gf to the emergency room last night.
[Captain_Tenille] [--- not much sleep
[bc] oh yes, I remember you saying that was due
[ubu] yeesh, what for, CT?
[Captain_Tenille] We thought her miscarriage was done yesterday morning.
[Captain_Tenille] Turns out, it wasn't.
[Captain_Tenille] She went downhill all evening, then woke up around 1:15 with excrutiating cramps.
* ubu moans.
[ubu] i'm so sorry.
[Captain_Tenille] Like, screaming and writhing in pain bad.
[bc] shitey
[Captain_Tenille] Took her in, and waited for fucking ever.
[Captain_Tenille] I waited so long I thought they were doing a D&C and hadn't told me. Turned out she had to wait around too. She got vicodin, at least.
[cyndrekit] sucky CT
[cyndrekit] I had a really good friend misscarry
[cyndrekit] it went on for several days
[Captain_Tenille] It's been going on since Tuesday or Wednesdayish, I think.
[Captain_Tenille] We found out something might have been amiss only last Wednesday (the 6th).
[ubu] i am so sorry.
[bc] coo, & I always thought it an unpleasant thing that last 30 minutes
* cyndrekit hugs Captain_Tenille
[cyndrekit] bc: na, the body has to clean everything out
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[Captain_Tenille] Um, bye ubu
[cyndrekit] so is everything fine now?
[bc] I think he found that distressing ct, for personal reasons, so quit without saying anything
[Captain_Tenille] She's home sleeping.
[Captain_Tenille] Oh.
[cyndrekit] ya, it takes a toll
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[cyndrekit] make her eat - esspecially veggies with iron
[cyndrekit] like spinach
[cyndrekit] well, when she wakes up
[ubu] i just learned that the House Un-American Activities Committee was originally founded by a Democratic Senator, Samuel Dickstein, to ferret out Ku Klux Klansmen, "fascists", and other right-wing groups.
[ubu] it was called the Dickstein Committee for years, and Communists and liberals alike were very happy with it.
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[ubu] only after Martin Dies of Texas became its chairman did it turn its attentions to Communists in the government, at which point the Communists protested loudly that they were being persecuted, and their civil liberties violated.
[elby] i am looking for therapy please.
[bc] hey elby!
[bc] what may I help you with
[bc] state your case and insert $5 into machine
[bc] this is the automated psycholigist
[elby] Well, sometimes I cry when I masturbate
* elby inserts $5.
[bc] How do you feel when you cry when you masturbate?
[elby] I feel sad.
[bc] How do you feel when you feel sad?
[elby]
[elby] You are a crappy psychologists, i want my $5 back!
[cyndrekit] Hey elby!
[bc] Tell me about your mother
[elby] She has very soft hands.
[elby] hi cyn
[ubu] bc, county tells me i'm awkward.
[ubu] i don't think that's fair.
[bc] you are awkward. You never let anyone relax
[ubu] really?
[ubu] how's that?
[ubu] are you calling me high-maintenance?
[elby] I went to an odd funeral yesterday
[bc] Well, people are happily throwing around assumptions and having light hearted fun, and then you arrive with your demands for proof and urgent questioning
[bc] why odd?
[elby] Sort of a distant relative, never really knew the guy
[elby] but he lived in some backwoods town
[elby] at about 73 he passed
[elby] and he owned a topless bar
[bc] cool
[elby] There were a hell of a lot of interesting stories told about him.
[bc] so were all his stripper employees there?
[elby] Would have been interesting to know him more.
[bc] dresed in black?
[elby] No but there were bikers
[elby] I think one ex-stripper was there
[bc] heh
[ubu] demands for proof?
[ubu] what in God's name do you mean by that?
[bc] pity you never got in with him while he was alive, or paid any interest in your own flesh and blood. You could be the owner of a strip joint by now
[bc] ubu: see? You are doing it right now.
[ubu] i demand proof.
[bc] "[ubu] what in God's name do you mean by that?" [-that.
[ubu] hahaha!
[ubu] oh yeah, that. i guess that's awkward.
[bc] haha
[cyndrekit] wow, that was a trap he woulden't have been able to avoid
[cyndrekit] good one bc
[ubu] he really did get me, there.
[bc] heh
[elby] not really my own flesh and blood bc
[elby] not really directly related to me
[bc] well, if that salves your guilt, that's fine.
[elby] It's my half brothers father's stepfather.
[ubu] stingray softly sleeps
[ubu] my probing will not wake him
[bc] I keep my half brother's father's stepfather very close, and so should you have.
[ubu] sweet dreams, little one.
[elby] haha
[elby] Took you long enough.
[ubu] i poke, poke his face
[ubu] and yet he still ignores me
[elby] But BC, they lived in.... *shudder* oregon
[ubu] poke... poke... poke... poke... poke
[bc] well elby, such a misfortune should have motivaed you to help them however you could.
[cyndrekit] oy! down ubu!
[cyndrekit] your being abnormaly odd
[bc] pokey poke
[bc] A clip from the nine equals six to the grave, A to the muthafuckin' K, homeboy!
[elby] bc is a hard motherfucker.
[ubu] korean!
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[Captain_Tenille] Interesting: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=20721&cid=467
[bc] coo
[bc] he got everyone
[bc] except jsm
[bc] and he knows all the names, even obscure ones
[bc] which means it must be somebody on teh inside
[elby] boring.
[bc] the only one he didn't get was warren mann
[elby] haha
[elby] Oh, I'm sure craigs and warrens copies of the mailing list info has been spread all over.
[bc] heh
[elby] big deal, all we ever talked about were our silly slashdot conspiracies and some people used their real names in their email addresses.
[elby] I'm flattered people still care though
[bc] heh
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[bc] hmm
[elby] ok see you guys around, logging
[bc] bye elby
[elby] i check my io email more often than my aq mail if anyone needs to get in touch with me
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[Captain_Tenille] zuul, what's the word?
[zuul] Thunderbird!
[Captain_Tenille] zuul, what's the price?
[zuul] Forty twice!
[em] hey bc
[em] did you know that hospitals in the UK are underprepared for a nuke attack?
* em reads the news.
[em] "Congress on Friday passed legislation that would make it a crime to insert illicit or pornographic material into packaged food products."
[bc] underprepared eh? hmph
[em] http://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/11/15/product
[em] lol
[em] so I can stick pr0n inside food packages, it's legal
[em] well, until sometime next week
[Captain_Tenille] Better hurry
[me0w] I am hungry
[bc] me too
[bc] 'cept I just can't be bothered cooking
[me0w] bc, I would make you lunch
[bc] I haven't had anything to eat all day, and I got up at 6 and have been busy as hell
[me0w] Although, I guess it is dinner time over there.
[bc] me0w, luncheon would be perfect anyway. I don't feel like anything overheavy
[me0w] I made a yummy salad dressing the other day.
[bc] huh, is putting pornography inside food products a big problem in USia?
[bc] mm. I like salad, except for the lettuce part
[cyndrekit] i never heared of it
[bc] which I don't like much at all
[bc] especially if it is red
[bc] red lettuce is bogging
[me0w] I like romaine lettuce
[me0w] which is green
* bc all of a sudden has a great yen for radishes
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[bc] covered in salt
[em] the motivation for the law seems not to have been pr0n, but a KKK pamphlet found by a 10-year old
[bc] eh
[bc] that's insane
[bc] people should be allowed to put whatever the like in food
[bc] bloody fascists!
* em discovers that Belarus is a nasty place
[Captain_Tenille] You *just* figured that out?
[bc] em lives in the groves of academe, ct, not in "the real world"
[bc] his horizons extend no farther than a copy of the Times Literary Supplement while a hot graduate student felates him
[bc] no wonder (incredible!) he didn't know about Belarus! Would you?
[Captain_Tenille] I know about Belarus. Have for years.
[Captain_Tenille] Of course, I've always been a history nut.
[bc] http://www.opendemocracy.net/themes/article.jsp?i
[bc] fun
[bc] I've never heard the House of Commons described as "dignified" though
[bc] it's very clearly anything but
[em] it's british. anything with that ridiculou accent sounds dignified out here.
[bc] what ridiculous accent?
[Captain_Tenille] Any of your ridiculous accents.
[cyndrekit] hehe
[bc] s'the mother tongue!
[Captain_Tenille] Remember, the English spoken in the Pacific Northwest is the least accented English in the world.
[Captain_Tenille] You need to learn to talk like me.
[bc] er, you mean the most accented
[Captain_Tenille] No, least.
[bc] furthest away from what I speak = most accented
[Captain_Tenille] Us, and St. Louis.
* bc is accentless
[Captain_Tenille] From what I understand.
[Captain_Tenille] em, care to comment?
[em] heh, i feel sorry for australians and new zealanders.
[em] they get confused for all sorts of things in USia
[bc] ct, it is all relative. Posh english people have the conceit that they have no accent. So, it now appears, do people in the pacific northwest
[em] so I was talking with this australian friend the other day. She told me that one of our first-year students called her by the nickname of somebody else-- an understandable error.
[Captain_Tenille] They train newscasters how to talk here, for Christ's sake!
[em] and
[bc] it seems hard to me to see how any accent can be stronger than another, they are all equivalent
[bc] just different
[em] she was telling him, "Oh, don't worry. The receptionist always confuses me an Melanie [this other student, from New Zealand]"
[em] so the kid goes: "Oh, that's because you're both British!"
[bc] heh
[em] OTOH this new kid in our department is an idiot.
[bc] if I moved to america, I wouldn't be understood at all. it'd quickly get on my tits, i suspect
[em] quite liable to open his mouth while keeping his ears closed.
[em] bc: maybe not
[bc] "ah sed ah wont a cuppa COFFEE!"
[em] I always assumed scottish people would be completely uncomprehensible.
[bc] em, my father lived there once, he had problems
[em] when I actually met some, I found them easier than a lot of brits.
[bc] also, the scottish people you met were doubtless posh
[bc] why else would they be going to parties in Stanford?
[em] dunno there.
[bc] working class accents in glasgow can be incomprehensible to *me*
[bc] and that's their norm
[bc] just today:
[bc] guy I was talking to said "On the second floor."
[bc] which I interpreted as "On the first of february."
[bc] dunno how I managed that. "on" is "oan", "second" becomes "secant", it ends with a t sound, and "floor" in glaswegian is like "flare"
[bc] and I'm not from glasgow! so it takes getting used to
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[Sulla] One young man sat on a concrete block spouting antiglobalization slogans while warming himself with a hot Whopper. This was funny, but also a little depressing. The Left, I thought, is in trouble.
[Sulla] ^^hehe
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[cyndrekit] where is that from?
[bc] http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/314/focus/Criti
[cyndrekit] thought so
[cyndrekit] sounded almost to clever to be you.
[bc] heh
[bc] you mean "not clever enough"
[cyndrekit] hehe
[cyndrekit] yea... thats it...
[cyndrekit]
[bc] good
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[bc] em
[bc] you should bring back aqbot
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[bc] hey vaginux
[momocrome] ok, let's try it out
*** momocrome is now known as vaginux
[bc] looking sharp in your new suit!
[vaginux] lessee if I get some crap
[bc] hehe, going to join #k5?
[vaginux] already in #k5, #everything, #slashdot
[bc] coo, that's lots of channels
[bc] I bet you like all of them better than us
[vaginux] not at all. I want to hurt those other channels
[bc] hehe!
[vaginux] i want to make them pay for my years of suffering
[bc] I think I will drop into #k5, haven't been in there in yonks
[vaginux] I always get picked on by geeks
[bc] but I need a new nick, I don't want the usual attacks I get
[bc] haha!
[bc] yes, they are bad those geeks, with their love of sport and bullying ways
[vaginux] hmm. do you want it to be mundane or a touch more controversial?
[bc] I'm trying to think of what the name of that 52yo woman tombuck laid is
[vaginux] speaking of whuch, who did the KKK story that's in the k5 queue?
[bc] tuppy something
[bc] dunno, vaginux, it was funny though
[cyndrekit] how about just candice?
[bc] hmm
[cyndrekit] or do you want someone established?
[bc] I'll try to find it
*** bc is now known as tuppy_owens
[tuppy_owens] candice, cyndrekit?
[cyndrekit] I thought you were just lookin for any female name
[cyndrekit] so i thought i would throw that one out
[tuppy_owens] heh
[me0w] hehehehehehhe
[tuppy_owens] hehe
From: cptroll
d =2755) so I make up an
B 40" X-Priority: Ê3
t .com/~wsl3/+vladinator).
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: [k22320inchfan] Vladinator needs a beatdown
Date sent: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 20:04:50 -0400
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0029)
I'm trying to give george his account back
(http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=trolltalk&ci
appropriate throwaway email address and post it. Vladinator, being the
prick he is, sends me this email:
>From Ê"Anony Mouse" <anony_mouse1969@hotmail.com> ÊÊ ÊMon, 23 Oct 2000
>17:44:17 -0500 Subject: Êokay I'm writing you To: Ê
From ??? Fri Feb 19 09: Ê25
From anony_mouse1969@hotmail.com Mon Oct 23 18: Ê46
[snip]
>X-Originating-IP: Ê[209.96.17.98]
>Date: ÊMon, 23 Oct 2000 17
>MIME-Version: Ê1.0
>Content-Type: Êmultipart/alternative;
>boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C03D18.DD858
>X-MSMail-Priority: ÊNormal X-Mailer: ÊMicrosoft Outlook Express
>5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: ÊProduced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
>Message-ID: Ê X-OriginalArrivalTime: Ê23 Oct 2000 22
>
>okay I (george) wrote you so can I have my account back please?
Now, anyone with a half a brain and a reverse-ip lookup can see that that
originating IP corresponds to postnet.com and Vlad's own account
(http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:home.postne
If that's a permanent ip address, then vlad deserves whatever he gets
from anyone here who is more learned in the h4xx0r ways than I.
(This is CP0029)
Sex Advice With Dr. Scott Lockwood (PhD)
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From: cptroll
l k&cid=141#141).
/.
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Re: and the Troll Thesis spreads further...
Date sent: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 13:20:25 -0500
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0002)
Actually, k5trolltalk has been more for bullshitting than for trolling
(much like this mailing list), and most of my trolls have been kept to
myself, alas. Still, there's a certain private joy in making rusty's head
spin (http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=comments&sid=trollta
=?iso-8859-1?q?I=20am=20Troll?= <i_am_troll@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>I didn't know there was a K5 trolltalk, or otherwise I
>wouldn't have posted those links to GeekCulture here
>when they were already mentioned on trolltalk. I
>didn't even realise that you'd all left the
>trolltalk, I just thought you'd got sick of the noise
>there and started keeping your trolls to yourselves
>(like I do).
(This is CP0002)
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=20721&cid=4682 572 ;but i drunk.5 437m enu=news.weirdworld.sexlife :(
<bc> hehe
<bc> god I suck
<bc> hey FI
<First_Incision> I will not discout the possibility that you suck.
<bc> A wise move FI
<abu_zeqqzeqq> bc: if craig is as fucked up as he seemse
<abu_zeqqzeqq> that will push him to new extremes...
<bc> hehee
<First_Incision> I never understood the stone women thing. Is osm still perving around somewhere?
<momocrome> http://www.clusterlizard.org
<momocrome> osm's site ^^
<bc> yes, though who knows what he's up to
<abu_zeqqzeqq> bc: change your nick to "Abu'l Hayjeh "
<momocrome> he has a bunch of uninspired match.com pseudo-trolls
<momocrome> picking on hapless, lonely women
<bc> that irc log is hilarious
<dmg> that takest the biscuit
<bc> [bc] vlad... i'2 type 'mo
<dmg> I laughed
<momocrome> post the text to 20721
<momocrome> stir the pot a bit
<momocrome> I am going to rise to their baiting
<momocrome> even thoughI haven't been singled out
<bc> haha
<bc> I must read more now
<bc> county: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=20721&cid=467
<ivan> Ignore the superfluous comma.
<bc> does that seem accurate to you?
<ivan> All of them =)
<ivan> thx
*** First_Incision is now known as fi-away
<ivan> I can't say, bc. I didn't read it.
<ivan> Should I?
<bc> Yes, you should
<ivan> Haha!
<abu_zeqqzeqq> http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_686841.html?
<ivan> It almost looks real.
<ivan> The one problem is that shoeboy is LOLing too much and Vladinator isn't doing it enough.
<bc> I'm kind of insulted. It represents me as a pathetic drunk with delusional fantasies that I'm liked by females, and that seems entirely untrue
<abu_zeqqzeqq> gratuituous kylie pictures. Proof Allah(SWT) and Mohammed (PBUH) are REAL
<ivan> It does seem entirely untrue that you're liked by females.
<abu_zeqqzeqq> bc at least you are worthy of parody
<bc> hehe
<abu_zeqqzeqq> some of us are become stalinesque non-persons.
<abu_zeqqzeqq> airbrushed out of trolling history
<ivan> abu and I didn't even get noticed
<bc> craig&osm&trollaxor prolly still like you, dmg
<ivan> "Where's the part where Barry Corrington slags on Jin Wicked for half an hour then kisses her ass when she logs in?"
<ivan> Has Jin ever been in here?
From: cptroll
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Let's try this one again: gbd et al
Date sent: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 19:10:38 -0400
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0031)
If he's not a real person (craig?), then he's doing a good job of hiding it. If I had a geographical breakdown of known USian trolls, then I could assure myself that it wasn't one of them and therefore someone unique.
On the topic of vladinator:
"as far as VLADINATOR is concerned there is a story behind that, but i am still in the process of putting all the details together but the story will be told. i dont REALLY think that he is a communist i just like to say that because it bugs him. but there is a REASON for the fued and i'll be revealing it."
Which just sounds like he's dicking around with vlad. But in the other emails, the tone changes to "and do not listen to vladinator, there is no telling what he might do." and "but DO NOT listen to vladinator!! the man is pure evil"
When I myself (with gbd's permission) dicked around with Vlad for trying to steal gbd's account by successfully impersonating gbd to Vlad (just to confuse Vlad, mostly), gbd replied:
"actually this is going to sound SILLY but could you let vladinator know that you're just joking and are not really me (george), i plan on explaining things better here in the NEAR FUTURE but that will only work with things as HONEST as POSSIBLE."
which sounds like it'll be fun.
On the subject of "the trolls", gbd said:
"anyway please don't give this mail address out to the trolls, like i said earlier i DON'T want them flooding me with spam and stuff which is why i am trying to do this as PRIVATE as i possibly can"
which as I've said, I'm respecting.
If anyone has any questions for him, I could probably put them to him.
rev <hanales@hotmail.com> wrote:
>So are you saying that gbd is a real person?
>You must share some of his insights (without revealing his address of
>course)
(This is CP0031)
From: cptroll
.sig files as well. Not a big deal.
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Have I gone soft?
Date sent: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 13:01:08 -0400
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0024)
Marc Stauffer <marc@ksac.com> wrote:
>: True. I still think karma as a persistent user property ought to be
>: eliminated. It's fine to score individual comments, and even to award a
>: special +1 comment bonus to selected "good posters", but karma as a prop for
>: the self-esteem of pathetic geeks, or as a game, is dumb. At the very least,
>: karma should not be displayed, not even one's own karma. And if it's going
>: to exist, it ought to be aged so that my recent activity is treated as a
>: better predictor of the value of my next comment than something I wrote a
>: year ago.
Bah, I'd hate this, but then I'm too much a karmawhore at heart. But if we could somehow increase the amount of quality moderation (to get rid of brainless drivel, not just spam) and rely on our abilities to craft quality-sounding trolls, then I wouldn't complain too much if we got rid of karma altogether and got rid of the +1 bonus along with it. Originally, the +1 bonus was reserved by just a few, but now every lamer and his dog has it. It's lost all meaning.
>What this doesn't solve, however, is the inherent problems
>with moderation. Not with the system, mind you, but with the
>users. There needs to be stricter policies, e.g. no
>usernames displayed when you moderate, or something along
>those lines, and the penalties for crummy mods need to be
>higher. In fact, people need to be banned from moderating
>more often since they simply suck at it.
I'd been thinking along the lines of hiding usernames during moderation, if nothing else than to help us trolls with recognizable usernames who get unfair moderation simply for being trolls in general than just on a particular post. I can see several0 problems, though:
1) It won't stop the most dedicated of trollbusters who will keep a separate window open as AC where they can see people's usernames. These are the moderators who most need to be stopped, and yet this restriction won't do so.
2) It will add a social cost to moderating itself. People might just start throwing their points at crap just to get back to normal mode where they can see who's talking. But it could cut both ways.
3) It'll increase the amount of noisy replies screaming: "Moderators! Don't you realize streetlawyer/flatpack/etc. is the one saying this?!?!?!" We don't need that.
4) You'd have to hide
(This is CP0024)
From: cptroll
/saving/ it for later, but that doesn't seem to be the case if you look at jamie's past articles -- they're all over the week). Alternatively, they're just saving it for a weekday where there's more traffic and more visibility.
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] how long do story submissions usually take?
Date sent: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 18:10:04 -0500
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0034)
The biggest possibility is that they're saving it for jamie to do some background research and write up a big article (more than just a blurb). That would seem likely, except you'd probably have heard from your friend about it, since he's the first one they'd contact (except if jamie doesn't work on weekends and they're actually
I once had a submission take more than a day to get rejected, but that was only because it first got accepted before eventually having that acceptance rescinded. I never did figure that one out.
I'm personally annoyed, because being as pathetic as I am, I actually got up early several times this morning to check the front page and make sure it hadn't been posted over night. I obviously care too damn much.
jlb <jlb@io.com> wrote:
>It's been in the queue over 24 hours now, I think, not rejected yet. How
>long does this usually take? (In the past, my story suggestions usually
>get rejected right away.:)
>
>Maybe they're checking up on the facts.
>
>*waits for laughter to die down*
>
>Okay, but why is it taking so long? Do you think any of you who talk to
>rub & co could ask them to try and push the story through? I do have
>some personal interest in it, besides being decent troll fodder.
>
>-lb
(This is CP0034)
From: cptroll
/saving/ it for later, but that doesn't seem to be the case if you look at jamie's past articles -- they're all over the week). Alternatively, they're just saving it for a weekday where there's more traffic and more visibility.
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] how long do story submissions usually take?
Date sent: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 18:10:04 -0500
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0034)
The biggest possibility is that they're saving it for jamie to do some background research and write up a big article (more than just a blurb). That would seem likely, except you'd probably have heard from your friend about it, since he's the first one they'd contact (except if jamie doesn't work on weekends and they're actually
I once had a submission take more than a day to get rejected, but that was only because it first got accepted before eventually having that acceptance rescinded. I never did figure that one out.
I'm personally annoyed, because being as pathetic as I am, I actually got up early several times this morning to check the front page and make sure it hadn't been posted over night. I obviously care too damn much.
jlb <jlb@io.com> wrote:
>It's been in the queue over 24 hours now, I think, not rejected yet. How
>long does this usually take? (In the past, my story suggestions usually
>get rejected right away.:)
>
>Maybe they're checking up on the facts.
>
>*waits for laughter to die down*
>
>Okay, but why is it taking so long? Do you think any of you who talk to
>rub & co could ask them to try and push the story through? I do have
>some personal interest in it, besides being decent troll fodder.
>
>-lb
(This is CP0034)
From: cptroll
:)/ 30/5377/2018&pid=60#66
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Nice on jsm
Date sent: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 15:07:10 -0500
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0038)
Hmmm. In this case, is the correct course of action to mod them both up
to 5? Jsm just because, and trhurler in order to make him even more
self-righteous and egg him on? Or would it be more effective just to mod
jsm up and leave trhurler at none and make him cry favoritism?
Trhurler is one bitter fuck. On any given story, you can find him voting
-1. And his diaries, too.
James <spiralx@spazmail.com> wrote:
>Keep us the good work winding trhurler up on k5, immensely amusing
>watching him slowly getting more and more outraged at you
>
>http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=comments&sid=2000/11
>
>Funny as hell.
>
>J
(This is CP0038)
[bc] momomomo :) :) :) How'd you find it? Is it the one where he takes the drug and it makes him recklessly courageous? :)9 945 ;) :-) LOL :-) :-) :-) :-) :\2 27.shtml?tid=109 :-) /etc/resolv.conf, or tweak my registry, or any of that hippie geek bullshit, I just want to do my fucking work...... stmo ry.jsp?story=351901 /topic whatever you want the topic to be here /msg nickserv identify yerpass /msg chanserv op #adequacy dmg :-( /topic test /quote topic test /quote topic test, it does that too8 776 ;) :\
[momocrome] KKK and the kuro5hin/modsub - a monograph of prophecy
[momocrome] Dear Reader, there will be flames./
[bc] heh
[momocrome] there is a lot of wackyness in today's queue
[bc] there's been this running anti-liberal crapflooding
[momocrome] I have a dry story about low-emission engines and electric hybrids nearly ready
[bc] up from the grass roots
[bc] heh, nice
[momocrome] it would be hailed as a masterwork during a flood like this
[bc] yes, it'll get a zillion FPs
[bc] make sure it is typo-free and don't bother with edit mode, post it straight
[momocrome] I'll crack it open
[momocrome] I was also working on a history of the Rastafarian Faith...
[momocrome] maybe that would be more timelyu
[bc] hmmn, which is closer to completion?
[bc] get something out there fast to capitalise on friday busyness and frustration
*** cyn-away is now known as cyndrekit
*** Retrieving #adequacy info...
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*** Sulla is now known as bc
[momocrome] trollaxor is making the rounds in #kuro5hin
[momocrome] oops he's left
[bc] wanker
[momocrome] I thought you might want to say hi to him, bc
[bc] not really
[bc] I won't forgive him for his involvement in the vlad-persecution and, in general, his fuckwitishness
[Captain_Tenille] Hmm. Just left #giz, too
[momocrome] bc?
[bc] what?
[momocrome] i am msging you thx
[momocrome] a private msg for bc... do you accept?
[cyndrekit] i will
[cyndrekit] zuul, seen perdida?
[zuul] perdida was last seen on #adequacy 2 days, 20 hours, 26 minutes and 34 seconds ago, saying: byeees [Tue Nov 12 18:40:22 2002]
[shoeboy] hullo
[Captain_Tenille] Hey shoeboy
[shoeboy] hey ct
* shoeboy is bored bored bored
[Captain_Tenille] How goes?
* Captain_Tenille is on the verge of falling asleep
[momocrome] wow, first trollaxor, now shoeboy. it's like 2000 A.D. all over again.
[shoeboy] watching cpu activity on a server
[shoeboy] it's almost hypnotic
[shoeboy] I've got a task that wakes every 2 seconds, so it's nice an rhythmic
[Captain_Tenille] "We now return to the thrilling conclusion to "CPU Levels on a Server". There will be no further interruptions."
[shoeboy] 33% activity across 4 processors
[shoeboy] spikes every 2 seconds
[shoeboy] exciting
[momocrome] so is that four physical processors, or two hyperthreaded xeons?
[shoeboy] 4 physical procs
[shoeboy] hyperthreading is garbage
[momocrome]
[Captain_Tenille] Awww
[momocrome] Hyperthreading is the flavor of the month.
[Captain_Tenille] Someone is making a lasagna for my gf and I.
[shoeboy] hrm... I was reading the wrong counter, cpu is only at 8%
* bc smacks his lips
[bc] food was excellent
[bc] now for smoke
[bc] hi shoe btw
* shoeboy finished "Flasman and the Mountain of Light" last night
[bc] great
[bc] I was LMAO at that
[shoeboy] no, it's the one covering the sikh war
[bc] oh, the Koh I Noor?
[bc] Khalsa etc?
[Captain_Tenille] Isn't that a large jewel of some sort?
[shoeboy] yeah
[shoeboy] that's the one
[bc] that's a good one
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[Captain_Tenille] I can't remember if it's a diamond or an emerald
[shoeboy] the bit where he's instructing the Sikh Wazir on how to lose is brilliant
[shoeboy] it's a diamond
[bc] I love the idea of all the intrigue
[dmg] whasssssuuuuup ?
[bc] one side trying to lose, but make it look like they had tried
[bc] hey dmg
[dmg] hey bc
[dmg] http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=20721&cid=467
[dmg] I don't like it one bit...
[Captain_Tenille] Is that the list of names?
[dmg] yeah
* Captain_Tenille posted that in here earlier today
[dmg] Mr McP
[dmg] up to his old tricks
[dmg] or
[bc] yes. It' probably craig, perhaps osm
[Captain_Tenille] Do we know anyone in Arkansas?
[dmg] and anti McP trying to discredit Mr McP
[dmg] why Arkansas ?
[Captain_Tenille] Doesn't craig live there?
[shoeboy] yup
[Captain_Tenille] Maybe a hit could be put out on him.
[bc] he lives not too far from kansas City
[Captain_Tenille] Arkansas is a small state.
[bc] which is where he and osm and trollaxor get together to take photos of them in their "phoneboys" garb
[dmg] isn't KKKlinton from Arkansas ?
[Captain_Tenille] Ja.
[Captain_Tenille] bc: Where's osm from?
[momocrome] osm is kansas too, iirc
[bc] KC is where he lives
[bc] same as trollaxor
[Captain_Tenille] Ah.
[dmg] the intrigue
[Captain_Tenille] I knew trollaxor lived there, but not osm.
[shoeboy] I wonder where Craig got my name?
[dmg] trolling subculture is just so....
[bc] yay, fujaba downloaded after only 4 attempts, damned germans
[Captain_Tenille] So much intrigue over absolutely NOTHING!
[dmg] intenst
[bc] hehe shoe
[dmg] shoeboy:
[dmg] wasn't he on the list ?
[momocrome] heh shoeboy
[shoeboy] dmg, I've never been on the list
[dmg] I could have sworn...
[bc] the list is dead anyway
[dmg] at least 20721 is quite funny at the moment
[dmg] in a manic depression/add sort of way
[bc] there's one post every 6 months and has been for 18 months
[dmg] bc: which list are you talking about ?
[bc] k22320
[dmg] k22320inchfan ?
[dmg] oh
[bc] no, the other one
[dmg] editors@
[dmg] adequacy.org
[bc] nono
[bc] not that one either
[bc] you know, the *real* one. Weren't you invited?
[dmg] what the real TOP SECRET one that noone knows about ?
[dmg] ok
[dmg] we are on the same page now.
[bc] hehe
[bc] k22320, I meant, for being totally dead
[dmg] aha
[dmg] I met spiralx and IAT last night
[bc] *k22320inchfan is dying
[dmg] red ink
[dmg] etc
[dmg] kreskin
[dmg] face facts
[bc] charnel house
[dmg] all practical purposes
[dmg] netcraft
[dmg] look at the figures
[dmg] IAT had a goth woman move into his flat
[dmg] from match.com
[bc] wow really?!?
[dmg] yeah
[bc] I'm sure I'm the one that showed him match.com
[bc] also, last I saw him was sunday
[dmg] she sat around all day watching "monarch of the glen" on tv
[bc] he was moaning about having split up with his gf
[dmg] that's her
[bc] redhead?
[dmg] she was 15st, goth, redhead 6'2"
[dmg] allegedly
[bc] haha! That lying bastard, he was criticising hotornot and internet dating
[dmg] he is going to try again...
[bc] anyway, this means but one thing: match.com must be searched for iat's ex-gf
[dmg] LOL LOL LOL LOL
[dmg] keywords goth "monarch of the glen"
[dmg] tv
* Captain_Tenille is mistrustful of girls taller than him
[bc] haha
[dmg] I am mistrustful of the female sex
[dmg] in general.
[dmg] especially after my eventful wednesday evening...
[Captain_Tenille] I am six feet tall.
[Captain_Tenille] Any female taller than that is a mostrosity and a mutant!
[dmg] no no no
[dmg] we are all equal in the eyes of god
[bc] what happened on wed?
[dmg] tall, short
[dmg] white black
[dmg] libertarian, communist
[dmg] bc: you know my friend ?
[bc] yes
[dmg] I was right about her
[dmg] she DID want me.
[bc] and she told you as much?
[dmg] I am now sporting a sex-related injury
[bc] haha
[dmg] its not funny
[dmg] my leg hurts
[bc] good. Yes, it is funny though
[dmg] when I put weight on it
[dmg] it was so amusing.
[bc] another #adequacy dating advice success!
[dmg] it was pretty much the most rampant sex I have had in my life...
[dmg] so much for her protestations of not being interested
[bc] hehe
[dmg] #adequacy rules !!!!
[dmg] doing the right thing for the wrong reasons!!!
[dmg] I was late for work
[bc] you're lucky. All I came home to on wednesday was a fucking nasty writ from Ayr Sherriff County Court.
[dmg] LOL
[bc] well, not from them, but requesting that I appear before them
[dmg] Which reminds me, better go and pay my credit card bill brb
[bc] "request" being more like "appear or else"
[Captain_Tenille] GodDAMN it!
[Captain_Tenille] My fucking office chair just broke!
[bc] haha
[Captain_Tenille] I loved that chair.
[bc] did it happen while you were sitting in it, with the result that you spread everywhere hilariously?
[Captain_Tenille] No. It fell over after I stood up, and one of the bottom things broke off.
[Captain_Tenille] It had been breaking for a couple of weeks.
* Captain_Tenille has not had a pleasant past couple of weeks.
[bc] heh
[bc] fuck sake, fucking fucking fujaba gives and exception on the one major piece of functionality I wanted
[bc] goddamned thing
[bc] "write once, run anywhere" [-haha
[dmg] bc what do the authorities want with you ?
[dmg] presumably they are trying to coerce you
[dmg] in some way
[bc] they are, but rightfully. it is not the government that is coercing me, but I private organisation I have breached a contract with
[cyndrekit] hehe this is by far my favorite scoop site design wise http://www.artificialcheese.com/
[bc] and now have to plea with, though hopefully I should be successful
[dmg] bc: I am surprised
* Captain_Tenille is bored
[dmg] I thought you of all people would honour a voulantary contract!
[dmg] being an anarcho-capitalist/libertarian and all that
[bc] well I would have, but I didn't realise I was breaking it until it was too late
[dmg] ignorance is no defence
[bc] ]:(
[bc] everybody makes mistakes and suffers the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune
[dmg] yes, but a contract is a CONTRACT. Its the fundamental bedrock of society....
[bc] I agree! And people break them, sometimes in error, sometimes deliberately, and in both cases restitution is just
[dmg] you will get what's coming to you, mark my words...
[bc] I willfully submit to the court and can only plead before them, they are human beings and shall hopefully see my POV
[bc] and grant me a return into the contract as it was before
[dmg] I hope they don't let you get away with anything....
[Captain_Tenille] What did you not do, bc?
[dmg] after all, a contract is legally binding, and freely entered in to.
[dmg] it would be a mockery and a travesty if they let you get away with flouting it.
[bc] of course it is, dmg, however it is not a mockery and a travesty if they accept all too human error at their discretion, Humanity is at the heart of our justice system too, and the company whose contract I have breached is composed of employees who are human beings, and should see this as nothing but a simple error
[dmg] bc: I expect the contract will have a just penalty clause for this kind of situation...
[bc] I don't think it does. It is a fairly unusual situation
[bc] but I am willing to accept penalties
[dmg] slashdot blatantly trolls it's moronic readership again.... http://ask.slashdot.org/askslashdot/02/11/13/2127
[dmg] "While I did pay Microsoft for Office for Mac, I try to avoid filling their coffers whenever possible, so for all the family/friends who rely on me for computer recommendations I recommend Mac or Linux."
[dmg] Wanker.
[dmg] Liar too
[bc] haha
[bc] holy crap
[dmg] its straight from the "howto"
[dmg] category "elitism"
[bc] I especially like this bit:
[bc] My own situation is that I use an IT-mandated Win98 (ugh) laptop at work, but at home I'm Mac OS X all the way.
[bc] huh??
[dmg] WIn98 and MacOs are virtually indistinguishable to normal people.
[bc] My own situation is that I use an Prprietary system I (ugh) laptop at work, but at home I'm Proprietary System II all the way.
[dmg] exactly
[dmg] but who gives a fuck, anyway ?
[dmg] its just a fucking computer.
[dmg] Its not a life-or-death issue.
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[bc] it's not anti-proprietary reasoning, it isn't anti-crapsoftware reasoning, it is anti-MS reasoning and that's it
[bc] yes
[bc] it's a damned computer! who cares
[dmg] I just want to get my work done.
[bc] What keeps me on windows? (Score:5, Funny)
[bc] by Real World Stuff on Friday November 15, @04:26PM (#4680158)
[bc] (User #561780 Info | http://www.elbbs.com/elbbs/jude/hegebaby.html | Last Journal: Friday November 08, @01:30PM)
[bc] Why the Microsoft ads on Slashdot of course!
[dmg] I don't want to edit my
[bc] same here
[bc] I like that windows is so closed
[bc] otherwise I'd just be horsing around forever
[bc] all the time
[dmg] Looks like the yanks may have caught Osama!!!
[bc] as it is, it just works
[bc] wow really??
[dmg] http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2482545
[dmg] doesn't mention him by name...
[dmg] but I bet al-jazeera is well infiltrated by MI5/6
[dmg] and they seem to have a hotline to him
[bc] hmmn
[bc] I doubt they are well-infiltrated
[dmg] "I can't tell you when, I can't tell you where, I can't tell you how," said one unnamed official. "But this is a big deal."
[dmg] Who else can they be talking about ?
[bc] Sources told the Reuters news agency that the person who had been captured was neither al-Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden's right-hand man, Ayman al-Zawahri, nor operational leader Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, nor Bin Laden's son Saad.
[bc] heh, who does that leave I wonder?
[dmg] I need to go check out my conspiracy sites...
[dmg] http://argument.independent.co.uk/commentators/st
[bc] dmg, you'll like this a lot: http://reason.com/0210/artifact.shtml
[dmg] Bin Laden is alive
[dmg] Fucking-A!!!!
[bc] hehe
[dmg] I LOVE it....
[dmg] it hints at so much
[dmg] without actually saying anything.
[bc] I love the blurb underneath
[bc] what were they thinking?
[dmg] the latin phrase is the icing on the cake
[bc] "Hmmn, a big eye looking over the earth, that will be reassuring and comforting!"
[dmg] someone has an awesome sense of humour
[bc] that agency is big and nasty though
[dmg] I am surprised that the Euro does not feature pyramids on its banknotes.
[bc] they are doing the supposed Carnivore II stuff
[dmg] oh
[bc] http://reason.com/sullum/111502.shtml
[dmg] this will be logged then.
[bc] I love reason.com
[dmg] bin laden, terrorism, dirty bomb, al-quaida
[dmg] oklahoma city
[dmg] fbi
[dmg] cia
[dmg] etc
[bc] that and justin raimondo and von mises and aldaily are worth a daily read
[bc] as well as being a sexy, sexy man
[dmg] men are not sexy to me.
[dmg] except Sam Sloan.
[dmg] he has the experience of life
[bc] I find justin sexier than sam sloan
[bc] though sam is pretty sexy
[dmg] were I ever to turn gay and desire rampant butt sex
[bc] http://www.antiwar.com/justin/justincol.html
[bc] just look at his rugged good looks
[dmg] Sam would be the man for the job.
[bc] (and remember, he actually is gay)
[dmg] bc: everyone is bisexual
[dmg] "gays" are just repressed
[bc] hehe
[dmg] "The US was finally forced to acknowledge yesterday that the man some of them had claimed to be dead was still very much in the land of the living - and uttering the kind of threat that fulfils the worst nightmares of Western leaders."
[bc] "Most of us 'neo-isolationists,' a disparate, contentious lot, are realy [sic] not 'neo' anything. We are old church and old right, anti-imperialist and anti-interventionist, disbelievers in Pax Americana. We love the old republic, and when we hear phrases like 'New World Order,' we release the safety catches on our revolvers." --Pat Buchanan
[bc] I love that!
[dmg] is that they are too intellectual for the masses.
[dmg] we need "new Conservatives"
[dmg] Thatcherism with better marketing
[bc] there're the "neoconservatives" in USia
[bc] so the label is really taken, by the wrong people
[bc] our conservatives just suck
[dmg] I am economically right wing, and socially, I don't give a fuck what you do so long as I don't have to subsidise it....
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[Sulla] damn
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[dmg] thanks to #adequacy I had some of the best sex of my life...
[dmg] bc:
[dmg] how do I set the topic
[bc] first, get yourself opped
[bc] then
[bc] to op yourself, type
[dmg] can you op me
[bc]
[bc] ok wait a sec, I'll reg myself
[dmg] that didnt work
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[cyndrekit] whats going on?
[bc] there
[bc] cyn?
[cyndrekit] ahh
[cyndrekit] topic changes
[dmg] it still doesn't work
[bc] eh??
[bc]
[cyndrekit] i can do it
[bc] try that
[dmg] I type "/topic" test
[bc] you do it in quotes?
[dmg] "no topic is set"
[bc] huh
[dmg] does it make a difference ?
[bc] are you using trillian?
[dmg] bc: yes
[bc] can you right click or whatever or try clicking on the topic or whatever, they have probably gui-ed it
[dmg] nothing happens
[bc] hmm
[bc] try
[bc] ?
[bc] oh
[dmg] "No Topic is set"
[bc] when I do
[bc] so yer fucked unless you use a different client seems to me
[bc] tell me what you want the topic to be, and I'll do it
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[dmg] bc:
[dmg] thanks to #adequacy I had some of the best sex of my life...
[dmg] thats the topic
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[dmg] well dony
[bc] woohoo!
* bc continues searching for a UML modeller that is free and works, goddamnit to hell
[dmg] did you know tombuck is a wannabe slashdot troll ?
[dmg] http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=44937&cid=465
[cyndrekit] "how many #adequacy ops does it take to change a topic?"
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[bc] LOL
[bc] @cyn
[cyndrekit] hehe
[dmg] cyn: adequacy ops don't do "techie" stuff. They pay someone else to do it
[cyndrekit] so iv'e noticed...
[cyndrekit]
[bc] that's tombuch dmg?? coo
[dmg] apparently
[dmg] he's new to trolling
[bc] he got 22 mod points spent on him, that's pretty impressive
[dmg] not bad
[dmg] slagging off NASA always pulls them in.
[bc] I remember my first successful troll like it was yesterday
[bc] oh the exhilleration!
[bc] it was a post called "Why HAL should never be developed"
[bc] by Kiss the Blade
[bc] that was trademarkedly luddite, anti-techi, and snooty and superior and artistic and such
[bc] in a boring story about 2001: A Space Odyssey or some crap
[dmg] KTB was good
[bc] it was a laugh, and about my 3rd ever post, and it got 40 replies
[dmg] trolling
[dmg] those were the days
[dmg] nowadays it has become impossible to troll
[bc] that was at eexactly the same time as everybody abandoned sid=trolltalk for the k5 trolltalk sid
[dmg] Baudrillard would say that trolls are indistinguishable from genuine opinions
[dmg] they are simulacra
[bc] and I didn't know any of you lot, so I was left all alone, and nobody noticed my sublime period of success ]~((
[dmg] ive been thinking about that a lot.
[dmg] It does not matter whether the expounder of a viewpoint is sincere
Does mars even have the sort of atmosphere that these things could fly in?
The experiment was in fact a success.
but what do i know, i'm just a model.
that I know of is this guy, the L'il Skeeter.
try { do() || do_not(); } catch (JediException err) { yoda(err); }
Remember that episode of The Simpsons where they showed Quickie Mart camera footage of Apu buzzing by like an insect?
Imagine that, only replace Apu with Ballmer.
*shudder*
"People should be allowed to keep midgets as pets."
- Gov. Jesse Ventura
Sounds cool! Presumably the longer a swarm stays in one place, the better your resolution is likely to get....
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Links to AI flocking behaviour resources which might be of interest....
Oxford Uni:
http://www.maths.ox.ac.uk/~sumpter/
Craig Reynolds (early boid work):
http://www.red3d.com/cwr/boids/
Manchester Uni:
http://www.eng.man.ac.uk/Aero/wjc/Research/
US Airforce:
http://www.vs.afrl.af.mil/News/99-23.h
check out this video of a manned full-sized ornithopter. It looks to me like alot of effort is going into not alot of lift/thrust.
i nd ex.html
Looks like it's a bit of a wild ride n'all
http://www.ornithopter.net/MediaGallery/Videos/
Actually, Tom Swift (I'm pretty sure it was Tom Swift) did it, about 2 decades ago. Except it was a tiny robotic dragonfly. Nominally good Sci-Fi, creating a new technology and then exploring the implications of it. Can't remember the title of the book but I'm sure some other geekly folks here also read the story.
I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?
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The big reason that the flight system of a butterfly works so well (hummingbird too) is that the wings have a relatively large surface area, and the overall mass of the system, the butterfly, is low compared to the lift force it can generate.
The problem is, a butterfly uses quite a bit of energy (relative to its size) to keep itself aloft. Unless we have a reliable way to generate a proportional amount of energy while keeping the power source light enough, we won't be able to simulate the flight of a butterfly.
Honestly, I think we should stick to planes for a while. We've got enough trouble keeping them in the air and running on time; best not muck it up by throwing butterflies in the mix.
"It never got weird enough for me." - HST (RIP)
How are we going to deploy these things on Mars? Surely, it would take about 500 years for one to fly there (assuming it could store enough fuel of some type). Until we can land a probe, I'll assume this to be the method of transit. ;)
-- jimmycarter
They'll just get swallowed up by some larger company.
Probably one that makes mechanized predatory birds.
Okay, so my question is how one could possibly power a mechanical butterfly. Living butterflies subsist on nectar; it's high energy, but they still need a massive daily intake. So, it seems like powering a butterfly would require a super-light-weight battery with long life and high output. Photovoltaic wings might work, but then it couldn't fly at night. Any thoughts on other sources of power? Superconducting monofilament extension cords?
And incidentally, the article says that insect wings get 10 times as much lift as airfoils. Presumably, that's for airfoils moving at the speed of insects. Has anyone found a way to test this with a butterfly moving the speed of a jet plane? I'm curious if the proportion holds true at all speeds, or if the ratio collapses as speed increases.
RC in caves is a ludicrous concept, save for line of sight, but then, why bother. Cave radios work with really looooowwwwww frequencies and require rather large coil antennas to transmit through all that rock. Cave radios are pretty finicky too. This is why cave rescue organizations (good ones) have the ability to lay a mile or two of phone wire in really horrible conditions.
RC butterflies or RC anything-else just ain't gonna happen in a cave.
A few people have suggested the military applications for these robotic butterflies, particularly in the area of espionage. The problem is this: butterflies make terrible spies, because everyone notices them!
How many times have you heard someone say, "look at the pretty horsefly on the windowsill"? Eh, never right? But we notice butterflies, because they are beautiful and elegant. In fact, of all of the insects around, I'd say butterflies are the ones most likely to be noticed, picked up, and examined because they are colorful and generally harmless. Well, that's probably the last thing you want, someone picking up your robot spy. "Hey, this butterfly has a resistor soldered to it's back..."
So the idea of making a robotic butterfly spy is probably not workable. Maybe a robotic cockroach spy..? Never mind, they'd just get stomped on sight. That might just be the real problem, trying to find an insect that wouldn't provoke interest, either positive or negative.
I appreciate good crapfloods and all, but this is too much.
Sung to the tune: "If You're Happy And You Know It Clap Your Hands"
If we cannot find Osama, bomb Iraq.
If the markets hurt your Mama, bomb Iraq.
If the terrorists are Saudi
And the bank takes back your Audi
And the TV shows are bawdy,
Bomb Iraq.
If the corporate scandals growin', bomb Iraq.
And your ties to them are showin', bomb Iraq.
If the smoking gun ain't smokin'
We don't care, and we're not jokin'.
That Saddam will soon be croakin',
Bomb Iraq.
Even if we have no allies, bomb Iraq.
From the sand dunes to the valleys, bomb Iraq.
So to hell with the inspections;
Let's look tough for the elections,
Close your mind and take directions,
Bomb Iraq.
While the globe is slowly warming, bomb Iraq.
Yay! the clouds of war are storming, bomb Iraq.
If the ozone hole is growing,
Some things we prefer not knowing.
(Though our ignorance is showing),
Bomb Iraq.
So here's one for dear old daddy, bomb Iraq,
From his favorite little laddy, bomb Iraq.
Saying no would look like treason.
It's the Hussein hunting season.
Even if we have no reason,
Bomb Iraq.
This research should be of interest to those developing the RoboFly, currently under development, with a grant from the US military, for reconnaissance missions. It weighs a tenth of a gram, is only slightly larger than a fly, has a tiny camera, and solar-panels that power two tiny motors, which in turn power razor-thin polyester wings that allow it to fly in relatively still air. A working model is expected to be completed by the end of next year.
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One of the ideas kicked around for the 1992 "Godzilla vs. Mothra" was killing off Mothra, and resurrecting her as a dragonfly mecha. The dragonfly Mothra did actually appear in "Rebirth of Mothra 2" as Aqua Mothra. And while the mecha has never appeared on screen, Armored Mothra appeared in "Mothra 3", with sword blades on the forward edges of her wings that worked very nicely to slice and dice King Ghidora.
Since the 90s, Mothra marrionettes have included robotics. If you watch the "making of" for GMK, you can see them build Mothra and the suits, and test the robotic Mothra and the robotic heads. Godzilla's head was especially impressive: it could roll and blink its eyes, shake its head and bare its teeth. The soft latex "skin" was moved by robotic "muscles" underneath. Also, Godzilla could breath.
Would someone kindly photograph an Atlas moth (a large Malaysian moth with the same orange stripped body as Mothra) in that gizmo and send the results to Toho? Mothra would appreciate that very much.
"It's a miracle! The sea water has once again created new life."
Moll, "Rebirth of Mothra 2"
The new "Godzilla X Mechagodzilla" will be opening in Japanese theaters on December 14th.
they can experiment with butterflies flying through a tornado in a can! Look at em go! What I really want is my 10cm remote-controlled jellyfish...
It's just a plan for Meterological Weapons (Weapons of Meterorological Destruction).
If you get a large group of gigantic[1] butterflies flapping their wings on one side of the planet, can you imagine the havoc it would create on the other side of the planet. Hurricanes, Whirlwinds and Typhoons at the drop of a hat (or flap of a wing).
[1] Gigantic on the butterfly scale of things.
In Danny Dunn, Invisible Boy, the professor builds a life-sized dragon fly that is flown by remote control. It had eyes and ears, and he thought of using it for exploring. Danny Dunn ends up destroying it, and the professor's notes, when the government develops an interest in using it for spying on people.
Did anybody else on Slashdot read the Danny Dunn books when they were children? His mother is the housekeeper for Professor Bullfinch, and they have all sorts of adventures that are, for the most part, scientifically possible, at least sort of. Danny Dunn and the Homework Machine featured a computer called MINIAC.
I tend to think of the Danny Dunn books as being the geek's version of the Hardy Boys or Nancy Drew, except that they're good.
Danny Dunn had a dragonfly made out of super light and tough plastic propelled by jets of air, and eyes that were hooked up to a helmet you put over your head. The helmet gave you a 280+/- degree view of your surroundings, and allowed you to hear what was going on in the vicinity. It was completely immersive and seamless to the user. (VR!)
Pretty cool for 50s-early 60's tech. :)
Or, much more likely, espionnage and assassination. Idealists.
Wah!
"This will allow them to be used in rescue missions, cave exploration and possibly even on Mars."
Or by microsoft for advertising purposes!
This will allow them to be used in rescue missions
How many butterflies does it take to pry open the door of an automobile and lift the occupant to safety? How many to put out a house fire? Or rescue a downing person swept away in a flood? Or locate an Altzheimer's patient who has wandered away from home?
That's what I thought.
It's interesting research, but lets not blow this out of proportion or set unrealistic expectations by exaggerating the usefulness of the (proposed) technology.
Who is it this week? I've been avoiding the propag^H^H^H^H^H^H news lately...
Reminds me of when I was stationed in Okinawa in 1993. There were dragonflies buzzing around everywhere. I mean ALOT of dragonflies. I swore to myself that it was probably some miniaturized Japanese robotic insect that they were using to spy on the base. Of course that could have been dehydration because it was so damn hot and humid there, which isn't helped much by the high tech, heat absorbing camouflage utility uniform.
Life moves pretty fast; if you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it. -FB
They have air on mars now?
Hrm... I thought up a cool way to save banwidth by using javascript for layout. perhaps one day it could be used on mars!
autopr0n is like, down and stuff.
Hmmm. Better design specs for a whisper quiet ornithopter... What is an Ornithopter? Well for you non-frank-herbert reading people here (ooops thats not possible unless your a n00b...) http://www.ornithopter.org/flapflight/home.html Humbug you say? One was built however... http://www.ornithopter.net/MediaGallery/Videos/ind ex.html
It did get off the ground somewhat...
-Don't know if it's been slashdotted before...
But of course somethings would never get off the ground...
http://www.ornithopterpilot.com/images/AN45e2b.gif
Besides you can't really carry any weapons on the thing and the radar sig is too fricking huge... A butterfly's body is tiny yet the wings are huge...
Funniest quote on /. in ages.
oh brave new world, that has such people in it!
This is so much like the book PREY, you just need to add a little memory, make it run on solar energy and not long before these butteflies start evolving by themselves.
they expect to be able to build an aircraft with a 10cm wingspan that will be either autonomous or radio controlled. This will allow them to be used in rescue missions, cave exploration and possibly even on Mars.
I can see it now - a 10cm-wingspanned aircraft to lift CowboyNeal from the depths of a Martian cave.
I haven't been there in several years, but one of the things I always loved was that in the video you watch whilst waiting in the lobby, there was a fantastic shot of a person touching a butterfly that - upon close examination - was actually a robot (i.e. by the cyberdyne corp. in the video).
Of course, I'm also having a vision of Neal Stephenson's Diamond Age, not so much because he mentioned robot butterflies (he didn't, in fact) but just the general concept he had of nano-tech gardens.
"Stumble before you crawl"
Trust me, this research is not about cave exploration.
Nobody suspects the butterfly!!!! MUHAHAHAHAHAHA
First of all, the cost of such a thing probably outwieghs the usefulness. Do we really need robotic butterflies on Mars? Alien species are going to look at Earthlings as odd little morons. Next, if you put these things in caves and such (anywhere out in the wilderness), what is to stop other animals/insects from attempting to eat them? This just sounds like it will fail, the same as when they tried to build robot ants (because ants can lift 50x their body weight, so they figured they would be great for construction, etc).
Defender of Microsoft and Communism!!!
Here's a link to it: http://www.cosmiverse.com/space12030102.html
It also explains how the thin atmosphere of Mars actually works to help their design of a flapping winged robot.
I used to have a good sig...
Very soon there will be nowhere to hide, as flying/airborne networks of 'bugs' with full audio-visual capability will be all over, indoors and out, in due time. There's no way to stop this and I'm not saying we should try, but it will make life 'interesting' in ways we can barely conceive of right now.
Mosquito nets, repellant and bugspray will take on new meanings in the not-too-distant future.
**>>BELCH
I'll be more impressed when I see a mechanical flying bumblebee.
So ... we do not have to rely on those butterlfies in Tokio to influence our weather ... we can do it our selfs now?
As opposed to me sitting in the thing flying it? I can't think of any other way to control a fake butterfly. By the way I am going to press the submit button by either keyboard or mouse.
Reminds me of what I saw at Universal Studios. First, they make robotic butterflies, then robotic arms to tuck your kids in at night, then large robot soldiers, and finally Skynet.
The mechanics of insect flight have been a topic of intense research for at least 30 years, because it seems to defy our preconceived notions about aerodynamics.
As far as weaponization, I can say without a doubt that the U.S. Gov't is interested. While my wife was doing her undergrad in Mechanical Engineering at Vanderbilt U.; her senior project was working on a DARPA funded research project into developing mechanical dragonflies which had the ability to carry micro-sized observation equipment and sensors and transmit this data back to a command center. The PI for this project had an office on campus, and another one in the Pentagon, and split his time fairly evenly between the two - so this wasn't something the gov't cut a check for and then forgot about it.
Now, before anyone CC's this to AG Ashcroft (talk about getting modded down!); this is all public domain information. What probably would be classified is if they were able to ever put any of that research to use; which I don't know.
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So let me get this straight...NASA is considering sendng Iron Butterfly to Mars? Quite frankly, I think until we get the issue of the boy bands booked on one way trips resolved, we shouldn't worry about sending these guys.
Although In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida would make for much cooler space music than Thus Spake Zarathustra.
Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball(TM)
Insted of "wasting" our precious time on finding a new fuel source...
We should be making tiny mind control units to affix to the current butterfly population!
-G
Reminds me of something I saw on PBS before, these two guys were super gluing house flies to very small balsa wood planes, it was very cool, the flies were actually able to pull the planes along, and they flew very well. This is the closest thing I could find after a quick search:
http://www.flypower.com/
The Martian Chronicles (February 2000, experience not real: Simulated in X-Plane only)
NASA has very exact data on the atmospheric pressure, density, and temperature on Mars.
NASA has very exact data on the gravity of Mars.
NASA has rough topographic maps for the entire planet of Mars, and very detailed data for some areas.
The laws of physics, which are programmed into X-Plane, are the exactly the same on Earth as on Mars.
X-Plane needs atmospheric pressure, density, temperature, gravity, and topographic maps to deliver an engineering-accurate flight simulation.
Enter a new level of flight simulation. X-Plane can simulate Mars.
The following is an email sent by Austin Meyer, author of X-Plane, to the X-Plane community, at 4:35 AM, February 24, 2000:
I DID POSSIBLY THE MOST EXCITING THING I HAVE EVER DONE TONIGHT. (OK, technically I finished it THIS MORNING). As some of you may know, I have been gathering data on Martian atmosphere, gravity, surface "texture", and topography for X-Plane from various NASA sites (http://ltpwww.gsfc.nasa.gov/tharsis/mola.html, for example)
I do NOT yet have the TOPOGRAPHY for Mars, but I DO have everything else, and I have gotten it all entered into X-Plane and designed two planes to fly on Mars as well, and have been experimenting with deign and flight on Mars for the last 6 hours or so. (Could I be the first human to fly a real-time flight simulaton of Mars? I have seen many "movies" of "flying" over Mars terrain, but NONE have been hooked to an actual realistic FLIGHT MODEL... has NASA done a REAL-TIME simulation of Mars flight in a PILOTED aircraft? Has ANYONE?) Well, I have for the last 6 hours, AND IT IS FRIGGIN FASCINATING.
First of all, the atmosphere is ONE PERCENT as thick on Mars as it is on earth... INDICATED airspeed is proportional the the square root of the air density, so the INDICATED airspeed is ONE TENTH the true airspeed.
The result? If you take off with 60 knots on the airspeed indicator, your REAL speed is SIX HUNDRED KNOTS! (about Mach 1) Take it from me, Mach-1 takeoffs are quite a thing to behold, when the plane will barely leave the runway at that speed.
While there is almost no AIR for you, you do have the (sort of) advantage of only about ONE THIRD the GRAVITY, so it is three time easier to get airborne!
Result? A take-off in a well-designed airplane can occurr at a "mere" 400 knots or so, indicating all of 40 knots on the airspeed indicator!
Sound easy? IT ISN'T, BECAUSE WHILE YOUR GRAVITY (WEIGHT) IS ONLY ONE-THIRD OF EARTH'S, YOUR ==>INERTIAPARACHUTE? NOPE!!!! 400 mph is only 40 mph worth of drag due to the thin air. You will run off the end of the runway going 100 mph with the chute only "seeing" 10 mph: USELESS for slowing down
->BRAKES? NOPE!!! You only have one-third gravity, so only 1/3 of your weight on the wheels. NO TRACTION!
->Reverse thrust? NOPE!!!! With only 1% atmosphere, jet or prop engines can put out basically no thrust... just barely enough to keep the airplane in flight at mach-0.85.. the jet plane needs a JATO to take off!
So how do you stop? I finally went with ARRESTING GEAR. I know of no other way to avoid blasting off the end of the runway at 200 knots with the chute uselessy deployed and brakes uselessly locked.
Speaking of which, CRASHES are interesting. No air drag to slow the tumbling planes down, and little gravity to drag them to a stop against the ground! Crashes look like "the Agony of Defeat" from the Olympics where the guy on the downhill ski-jump bites it near the top of the ramp and tumbles on and on and on, powerless to stop an accident that started hundreds of yards earlier! (though on mars, at 400 mph, your plane will tumble across the plains for MILES!)
CRUISING ALONG OVER MARS is SPECTACULAR, with the scary red-orange Martian sky, new Martian rocky-red terrain textures, VISIBLY thinner air(!) (due to modified lighting in OpenGL, modified fog in OpenGL, and visibility of stars).. you really can tell you are halfway between air and space! Returning to Earth, you feel like you are flying in soupy water! Yuk!
So what sort of planes can fly on Mars? Not anything from Earth, that's for sure. Not enough lift or thrust. A Cessna or Boeing will just sit there on the ground without even moving. Put them in the air and they drop like beveled bricks with no wings. Both of my Mars-plane concepts are much like the U-2 Spyplane (designed to operate at around 100,000 ft, in simlar density air) one with a HUGE high-bypass jet engine built AROUND THE FUSELAGE, and another with a smaller rocket engine in the tail, like the X-15. The rocket plane has a lower-thrust engine, with plenty of fuel, for about 30 minutes of flight or so... the JET plane can fly for hours!
My designs are realistic (again, based on the U-2, with reduced weight for the lower structural needs (lower gravity) and modern (composite) materials). The rocket-plane is pretty much gauranteed feasible (known technology across the board) but the jet-powered one I am not sure about since Mars has so little OXYGEN in the atmosphere it may be impossible to keep a turbofan engine running.(My Mars jet-plane has twice the average fuel-consumption, though, to simulate injection of liquid oxygen or nitrous oxide). Bottom line, I now know it IS possible to build and fly a piloted plane on Mars and I now know what it would be like. (though I used a 10,000 ft runway with arresting wires... none of those on Mars now I admit).
This will allow them to be used in cave exploration and possibly even on Mars."
In Soviet Russia, the caves, and possibly even Mars, explore YOU!
Fun stuff to look into - I seem to remember not too long ago a /. article on a MAV constructed in which they posted a white paper (in PDF format, IIRC) on the device - it was pretty small, several centimeter wingspan, used a pager motor for propulsion and custom micro-servos for control, and had an onboard wireless video camera. I remember that supposedly it could stay aloft for up to 30 minutes of flight time, and was made from dense styrofoam. The white paper was detailed enough that someone (aka - r/c flight hobbiest) could easily build such a thing from the description and pictures given.
I suggest that if you are interested in building such a thing, look into using parts from micro-RC race cars. Some people are already experimenting - I read about one guy in Japan who tried to build a micro plane from his micro-car parts by attaching them to a small balsa glider (it didn't work very well - but it was a start)...
Reason is the Path to God - Anon
Interesting idea. This could be an excellent way to map wilderness areas of the U.S. and other countries. Perhaps the butterflies could be programmed to traverse from the origin vehicle to a particular destination for recovery, but be given the autonomy to check out interesting terrain features if they see any. Since the butterflies could get right into the terrain, they could have good enough resolution to justify using them over the current USGS stereoscopic photo method for creating topographical maps. Maybe they could use a form of radar to map things in 3-D or stereoscopic cameras. Or program the units to land and acquire a GPS signal at specified intervals.
In a battle zone, perhaps the butterflies could be camouflaged to match the indigenous species, as long as they weren't too large. Or the butterflies could be programmed to stay a certain distance from each other to not arouse suspicion. Since each unit is a small portion of the swarm, the loss of a bunch of them might be acceptable. Cool!
The mind boggles.
O'WONDERWe're working on it.
Why not camouflage the butterfly to match the local population? If it's 10cm and it's camouflaged like a monarch butterfly and it never lands, I would imagine people would admire it for being a particularly large monarch butterfly, hiding in plain sight.
... by Cyberdyne Systems. Didn't you see their promotional video? "Imagine a world... where butterflies run on batteries."
Locating downed planes in a forest or in heavy cloud cover/fog would be an excellent application. A larger drone with forward looking infrared (FLIR) could locate bodies and smoldering debris. In remote areas where planes sometimes go down, it's all about coverage of the area in as little time as possible to maximize the chance that the victims live. A swarm of camera-equipped butterflies autonomously looking for anything unusual might accomplish in less time and with less risk to search personnel what a search and rescue helicopter would do in a week. It's very interesting. Admittedly, for many scenarios a remote-controlled rat could be more useful, but this is all about expanding the possibilities.
You can take some new technology and give it an Orwellian spin.
Gosh, can you imagine what would happen if tens of thousands of people had small portable, self contained powered, remote, broadcastable color TV cameras...
oh wait they do
-Malakai
-Malakai
A Dragon Lives in my Garage
I first heard about this on NPR, where they were discussing its millitary applications, as in, sending small, insectoid robotic spies into the caves where terrorists are suspected to be hiding, etc.
What fascinated me was what they'd discovered about the flight patterns of butterflies. Apparently the idea of a "chaos butterfly" has another meaning. A butterfly's flight is literally random. Their wings are controlled by around 5 sets of muscles, each causing a different kind of movement, which causes their erratic flight. The thing is, the researchers can't find a pattern to it. The military was looking at butterflies because of this erratic flight pattern. It makes them nearly impossible to catch. Very good for spy-bugs.
But in all truth, the science is really awesome, but the proposed military applications are disturbing. If they have robotic bug-spies.. they could literally have eyes anywhere, and who says they'd restrict it to enemy territory? This is the war on terrorism, a war which Bush is assuming is on the home front, and I think he's already shown how far he will go to root out suspected terrorists.
~The Incredible Xan~
"Saying that men can't be lesbians is gender discrimination."
This is not the fisrt time I have heard of this. My mom (I am 14) works at a university (Case Western Reserve University of Cleveland) and they were thinking of hiring a professor named Mr. (Joseph?) Yan. He was developing a prototype insect with what seemed like a wingspan of 5 cm. I even went to his presentation about it, and it seemed that thay were about 20% done with the project. It fell through as Yan wanted to keep on working at his previous University, though...but not before I was given a special plastic one-of-a-kind mold of it. This was Spring 2002. I thought it was pretty nifty all in all.
...if you have something like the BattleSuits in Heinleins's "Starship Troopers"? That's where we gotta go. If you can stomp on 'em, you won't have to spy on 'em. URAH! :})||
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Damn! Tell them to send another one...
Liberty uber alles.
http://www-bsac.eecs.berkeley.edu/~warneke/researc h/press/sfchron1100.html
'Pister is leading a team of researchers at the University of California at Berkeley that is developing tiny, electronic devices called "smart dust," designed to capture mountains of information about their surroundings while literally floating on air.
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So, no, these things are not completely different. A creature's basic needs (in nature, anyway) are always hardwired instincts that don't have to be discovered with impressive intellectual effort. The what is always given, the interesting part always is the how. 'Genuine' (as opposed to artificial) butterflies weren't created, they weren't given any goals and the concept of 'coming up with something' is completely out of their intellect's grasp. The only goals they're naturally, inherently pursuing are survival and reproduction; if they weren't, there wouldn't be any butterflies.
but what do i know, i'm just a model.