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Coldest Place in the Universe
Chris Gondek writes "The Sydney Morning Herald has an article on how NASA has released a high-quality image of the coldest place found in the universe. Five thousand light years from Earth in the constellation of Centaurus, the nebula, a gas cloud formed from a dying star, has a temperature of minus 272 degrees.
It is only one degree warmer than absolute zero, the coldest possible temperature, when atoms cease to vibrate and radiate no heat whatsoever.
This radiation is the remnant of the Big Bang, the explosion which forged the universe in trillion-degree temperatures. More than 11 billion years later, this heat has cooled to minus 270 degrees, but is still detectable."
Almost as cold as Hillary Rosen's heart 8^)
I could cool my Jolt with that one :)
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You mean it's *not* my ex-girlfriend's soul?
My bosses office at pay review time...
"I kill you! You no good 56'ing!"
As it turns out, absolute zero is not the "coldest possible temperature". It is impossible to attain absolute zero, as a little basic quantum mechanics tells us. Particles will ALWAYS retain some amount of energy, the "Zero Point Energy", which cannot be removed. More accurately, we can say that absolute zero is the lower bound on the range of possible temperatures - but is not included.
Most frigid place in the universe? They've already shown Janeway's quarters.
Ba-dum-ch-OW! That hurt!
Doesn't look like a boomerang. Looks like a bowtie, though if you squint a bit you can get a bat or a butterfly.
Seems like the perfect place to store beer though.
Jokes about solar gas expultion aside...
A very beautiful image.
Interesting about how far back they date it at.
Now if we can just get those Ausies up to date...
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i want my system to be placed there, so i can get rid of that vapochill.
;)
although the kvm-relay will be quite laggy...
the computer is online
i am not at it
what a waste of ressources
as far as i knew entropy sure did knock that theory out of the water.
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http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/thermo/entropy.
inform yourself before you post articles as blatantly mis-wroded as this one.
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What's the point of using acronyms when you have to type out the whole phrase anyways?
> Entropy and evolution can never co-exist.
Sure they can. Entropy only applies in a closed system. The earth is continually receiving energy from the sun, hence the earth is not a closed system.
Besides, who's to say God and evolution cannot coexist? What if that's the method He used?
if the answer isn't violence, neither is your silence / freedom of expression doesn't make it alright
Congrats! Just don't go on a month-long binge that ends in an arrest, like I did ;)
her tit?
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temperature is defined by the movement of atoms, right? how can microwave radiation have temperature?
if i got my physics right, radiation just induces movement of atoms... ?-)
the computer is online
i am not at it
what a waste of ressources
As the article admits at the end, it's only the coldest natural place in the universe. Scientists have produced lower temperatures in the lab, less than a few 100 billionths above absolute zero. Last time I checked, which appears to be later than the journalist who wrote the article, the coldest place in the universe was actually Brighton, England.
Do they have any travelling info? I have an ex-girlfriend that would feel right at home over there.
"If God created us in his own image we have more than reciprocated." - Voltaire
I could have sworn it was my student flat while studying in Edinburgh.
"Creationists always try to use the second law,
to disprove evolution, but their theory has a flaw.
The second law is quite precise about where it applies,
only in a closed system must the entropy count rise.
The earth's not a closed system' it's powered by the sun,
so fuck the damn creationists, Doomsday get my gun!"
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Why not fork?
Is this another one of those sales tricks for Ice Tea?
"Out liquid come from here!" *points randomly up against the skies*
Note to self: get smarter troll to guard door.
EVERYTHING in science is 'just a theory.'
You can't get anything stronger than a theory. Contrary to popular belief, a law isn't a theory that has become ironclad because it can't be disproved - laws are outside the 'speculation-conjecture-hypothesis-theory' hierarchy.
everything is theoretically disprovable. Maybe some day off in the future the theory of neutrons will be replaced by a new one, and neutrons will be viewed as a primitive but workable explanation of a natural phenomenon, the same way Newtonian physics came to be viewed after the advent of relativity.
What is driving the movement of the gas?
I may just be stupid, but this article seems to raise a lot more questions than it answers. Can someone expand this beyond newspaper-level pop science?
Panurge has posted for the last time. Thanks for the positive moderations.
...according to the recently discovered facts http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_mm.html the age of the universe is with about 1% margin of error 13.7 billion years. And the coldnes your're talking about is not that suprising since the average temperature of the universe is 2.73 degrees abode the absolute zero.
I'm sure he would have prefered a BJ, but hey - you take what you can get.
Sometimes its fun to go sacred cow tipping.
They say the first thing to go is your penis. Well, it's either that or your brain. I forget which...
Nope, it's more! It's really 1.15 degrees warmer than absolute zero (which is -273.15 degrees Celsius.)
Lemon curry???
this heat has cooled to minus 270 degrees
Funny, I've always thought going from -272 degrees to -270 degress is called heating.
When was the Big Bang theory proven and the guesstimation of 11 billion years determined to be fact?
When Penzias and Wilson detected the microwave background radiation. Despite Fred Hoyle's best efforts, steady state theory could never convincingly explain the properties of the microwave background, which were precisely as Big Bang theory predicted. As for the 11 billion years, notice that the article actually says 'more than 11 billion years' - 11 billion is the lower end of the scale for age estimates.
Real Daleks don't climb stairs - they level the building.
It seems JPL released this news on June 20, 1997:
Boomerang Nebula Boasts The Coolest Spot In The Universe
Only the high-res Hubble image of the nebula is the new news.
... and all of a sudden, 1000 Overclockers wonder, "How do I get my Athlon to Centaurus?"
The lowest level of energy ("fundamental" energy level of a quantum system), which we can equate to absolute zero, because there is no allowed state with less energy *does* have energy, including vibrational energy. Atoms *cannot* "cease" to vibrate, because by doing so they would violate Heisenberg's indetermination principle (they would have an exactly determinate position _and_ moment).
:)
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Exhibit B: Ohm's Law.
Apparently 'laws' are more accurate than 'theories'. Well, quite.
Real Daleks don't climb stairs - they level the building.
Absolute zero is when the movement of atoms stops, and for that to happen it'd have to have no external forces acting on it, which is quite impossible.
:)
I wouldn't be surprised if sometime in the very distant future absolute zero would be possible, but definitly not using any sort of current technology.
The fact is that heat is just the vibration of molecules which is another sort of movement (note that to cool something down you don't have to put something cool next to it - there are many other ways to cool something). To keep something totally still you'll need something to keep the thing still - how can you do that with an atom that measures nanometres wide?
The only way I could think of to do this would be to use strong electromagnetic force to keep the atom aligned or something, but then you're adding more energy to it!
One thing to think about: We can't have a static universe philisophically as without any movement then time would be irrelevant
Did I miss something in my science class?
The temperature of the microwave background radiation is 3K. This means that unless something is shielding an object (or large gas mass) it will be irradiated (heated) to this temperature. And because of the nature of blackbody radiation - the thing doing the shielding would need to be colder than 3K - else it would be a source of 'hot' radiation itself.
And then how do you take a picture of something that is only 1K? This object would emit less radiation than the 3K background - thus it would be a dark spot. It could reflect light - but not all the light is reflected (or is it due to some cool QM effect that I don't know about)? Anyway the absorbed light from other stars would most likely over years - heat the gas mass to a temperature between the 3K background and temperature of the star surface (5000K). Probably something in the neighborhood of 4K.
Conclusion - unless there is some sort of active cooling, nothing can cool down to less than temperature of the background radiation (3K). Is this an early April fools joke - or state schools worthless?
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...that's not so important anyway, since minus 272.99999C would be just the same as -273C for almost any practical means.
We now know how low IS temperature in some place: -272C . We have to take it simply as is, a new record and a proof to the very possibility to reach such temperatures in nature.
BTW, is there any proof to that "Zero Point Energy can't be removed" theory?
In 1995, American researchers cooled rubidium atoms to less than 170 billionths of a degree above absolute zero.
I know a girl like that....
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Besides, who's to say God and evolution cannot coexist? What if that's the method He used?
*nods* which is how I justify the theory behind religion. I think the implementation's all wrong though...
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Have you considered that people bite your head off because you question theories that you don't understand? And how exactly are you questioning these theories? Simply saying that you don't buy it doesn't count. Are you capable of arguing your claim against the big bang with reason and evidence or do you just "not like" the theory?
It just seems likely to me that there's someplace out in the black which doesn't even have enough matter for heat to exist. That would be colder.
Are we that desperate for the ultimate cooling method for our computers that we need NASA to find somewhere that freaking cold? ;)
Call your local quantum mechanic. She'll tell you they don't cease to "vibrate": it's called zero point energy.
Does this show that every body in this universe is untimately going to cool down and reach this near-absolute-zero temperature? Is this possible for our solar system? Where does all the enery go in such case?
People who don't read the article (and let's face it, that's most of us, right?), are certain to be confused by the quoted text. The submitter apparently left out this important sentence:
The microwave background radiation is "this radiation" the next sentence refers to.
Apparently 'laws' are more accurate than 'theories'. Well, quite.
Especially God's law.</sarcasm>
He painted a unicorn in outer space. I'm askin' ya, what's it breathin'?
I've long know about absolute 0. But I just wondered - is there an absolute HIGHEST temperature possible?
Absolute 0 theoretically is the complete cessation of all molecular movement. So is there an upper limit to that molecular movement in terms of heat?
Furthermore, the big bang must be the only huge explosion that I know of that has created (as opposed to destoryed), and even then created order (as opposed to chaos).
Evolution: more holes in it than Swiss cheese. Pity Genetic algorithms are based on evolutionary theory cause they really kick ass.
If NASA knew my wife, they would know the coldest place in the universe is my bedroom.
Yup, but I don't know how to correctly describe how I feel. I'll just leave it to the experts, then...
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Actualy it is here on earth in a research lab. In the Netherlands in Leiden. A lab called Kamerlinghonnes. They do research in that field.
A problem cannot be solved at the same level of awareness that created it.
-272 degrees Celsius is 1.15 degrees Kelvin and -457.6 degrees Farenheit.
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some day? it's already been done, and this time everything you thought you knew *really* is wrong.
http://www.rstheory.com/
You are absolutely correct. Absolute Zero is based on extrapolated points and can't be reached. The closer you get to absolute zero, gases tend to liquify and quatum mechanics takes over. If it where up to Newton, all our atoms would explode, since their would be no way for the electrons to stay in orbit around the nucleus.
ex-girlfriends don't have souls
I thought that the coldest place was in Boulder Colorado. Didn't they get down to well below .1 degrees kelvin?
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Your average Bose Einstein condensate, made in a lab of your choice, is somewhere between one billionth and one millionth kelvin above absolute zero. So the coldest place in the universe is probably in those labs.
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Don't get me started on evolution!
Why do people speak of theories as if they are a proven fact?
This radiation is the remnant of the Big Bang, the explosion which forged the universe in trillion-degree temperatures.
Mr. Gondek sounds awful sure of himself when asserting that the universe was absolutely created by a big explosion. (The stupidest idea evolutionary theory has come up with to date... Must be why its the most believable.) Might I remind you that what you speak of is known as the Big Bang Theory. Not even close to a fact. Nor will it ever be.
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Five thousand years old, to be precise.
Remember that EMR travels both as waves and particles, just NOT electrons, neutrons and protons. So while there is very little in EMR there is still some mass to EMR.
Light is just microwave radiation we can see and has been proved to be distorted by gravity.
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Could not be the coldest place in the universe where there is no matter at all? far away from any galaxy atom density should be very low... taking a cube with no atoms big enough you can say perfectly that is the coldest place, maybe it could count as a perfect 0 kelvin degree.
Ok, am giving up mod pts to post here, so here goes.
:-)
See, the point is that there is indeed a theory behind religion - it is the direct outcome of
socio-economic situations.
Religion is based on faith, that's what defines it.
Religion is based on a set of actions which are believed to constitute faith. That some people have faith is in itself besides the point.
Once you start having to 'justify' your beliefs, you have lost faith, and most religions (esp. Judeo-Christian ones) would not consider you a member based on your 'lack of faith'.
Agreed. But justification of a faith need not necessiate the lack of any.
No one gets into heaven (if your religion happens to have one) if they don't have complete faith.
Well no. A lot of Eastern Religions stress on your duty more than your faith. Sure, faith gets in too, but remember that your duty is the reason you're here.
I would not say that religion is a phenomenon that cannot be explained by theory, I would rather include it among the various socio-economic forces, and is perhaps an inevitable consequence. In fact, several behaviour and ritualistic factors of religion can be traced back to the state of the affairs when the religion flourished.
Anyways, my 0.02.
You're right, if you can't understand it, it can't be true!
And while we're at it, refridgerators are a myth! How could something be colder than the room around it!
This image (and a much better description) were the APOD on the 20th. The image is from 1998.
Apod.
I think Slashdot should have a box on the right with the APOD (astronomy picture of the day.) Of course, then it might get slashdotted... maybe someone nice could setup a mirror.
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If the entire universe will enventually reach this state .... does this mean hell is finally going to freeze over?
That would have been pretty funny if your login name was Hobbs.
Never trust an atom. They make up everything.
Fridges have a heat source very close nearby, smartass. ;-)
Physical contact with cold matter isn't the only way to cool down. Heat is also radiated away as EM energy, for example infrared from your body and visible light from red hot objects.
"It's friggin' cold in here Mr. Bigglesworth"
a gas cloud formed from a dying star, has a temperature of minus 272 degrees. No units, -4 ponts.
When was the Big Bang theory proven and the guesstimation of 11 billion years determined to be fact?
What would you approve as a "proof" of the Big Bang "theory" anyway? There are no observations that contradict the theory, even though scientists have been looking for them for nearly a century. How much longer do they have to keep looking until you accept it as a fact?
Anyway, the figure 11 billion years is infact not quite correct - as reported recently on Slashdot, the WMAP satellite has measured the age of the universe to be 13.7 billion years +/- 1%.
Absolute Zero is not the lowest possible temperature, nor is it the lower bound of the range of possible temperatures. It is actually possible to attain temperatures BELOW absolute zero, as any student of statistical thermodynamics will know.
> Religion is based on faith, that's what defines it.
At the risk of beig pedantic, so is science. It's based on the faith that the scientific principle & logic
a) works,
b) is the best way to learn about the physical universe
BOTH science and religion start with assumptions that you can't prove.
Some have been disussing a way to reach absolute zero. While I am not a physics major, I do love reading Hawking, Barbour, et. al. It's very mind expanding. I've ultimately decided you can not reach absolute zero wihtout cirumventing the laws of the universe and the means that we observe them... as we know it.
...
Okay, so I got thinking... if the space you're measuring was contained by a magnetic field and contained nothing, could it reach absolute zero? Theoretically I would think so. But there's 2 problems with this, right?
The first is simply the observation of "nothing." If I'm not mistaken, you can not measure or observe "nothing" because if it could be observed in any way, it would be "something". Even if you could somehow detect the abscense of "something" you'd be effecting "nothing" and making it into "something." Correct?
The second would be how do we define "nothing?" If I am to define it as something that does not contain matter in any form, then how do I contain it? Is it a matter of containment, or a matter of exclusion? If I am to exclude "something", philosphically this is far different from containing "nothing."
Anyway, I've got a headache now and it's 10 AM EST. Thank you slashdot for another wonderful morning
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"Man has produced yet chillier temperatures. In 1995, American researchers cooled rubidium atoms to less than 170 billionths of a degree above absolute zero."
We're so cool!
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Besides, who's to say God and evolution cannot coexist? What if that's the method He used?
It can't be done in six days.
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That theory was disproved long ago.
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It's closer to 13.7 billion years, based on MAP's recent discoveries
As a Christian, I can agree with you that I can't prove that there's a God. However, I think you might have a misunderstanding of what constitutes "faith". My faith is not based on nothing. I don't believe in God, despite the evidence. I believe in God because I think there's pretty good evidence to support such a belief. For example, I've had experiences that, try as I might, I can't explain without the existence of God. Of course, that's not particularly compelling to you, but just because I can't prove something to you does not make it unreasonable for me to believe it.
For example, my children this morning, woke up at about 6:45am. I let them jump around in their room until about 7:15am, when I finally dragged my tail out of bed and got them, fed them, and sent them off to school. Unfortunately, if I were asked to prove this, I would find it to be very difficult. I suppose that there may be some way to actually prove it, but I know of none, so I'm content in saying that I can NOT prove it to you. That doesn't make me any less certain that it's true. My experiences compell me to believe these things regardless of whether or not I can prove it to someone else.
CS Lewis, in "Mere Christianity", gave a much better description of how faith is not the thing that most people think it is. That faith is not an independant thing from reason and rationality. Here's an excerpt:
The entire chapter expounds on this basic idea. Considering your hobby, I would encourage you to read it. Hope it's helpful.
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Some time ago I saw a sports drink that claimed that it's amazing restorative powers were due to the fact that the drink "harnessed the awesome power of zero point energy". No kidding. I guess the ability to cure thirst has nothing to do with hydration and everything to do with halting all motion.
:-)
Crap like this kind of reminds me of The Matrix, where Morpheus explains how the devious robots are powered by humans. Oh, and that little "form of fusion" that he alludes to, too.
Ice makes things colder, right? That's what we all use it for! So, take an ice cube, then place another ice cube on top of it. Wait. The ice cubes will make each other colder, infinitely. THERE IS NO ABSOLUTE ZERO!
I never thought place colder than Fargo could exist outside of purgatory, but I'll be damned if they didn't find it.
For those who are interested, the "high" quality image of the nebula can be found here at the Astronomy Picture of the Day for Tues. 2/20/03.
Click on the image and you'll get the enlarged verson.
Sorry, but negative temperatures are ABOVE absolute zero (and above all positive temperatures) in the temperature scale. +infinity and -infinity are the same temperature, but -0 and +0 are not the same temperature.
. -1 00K..-0
from cold to hot:
0K...100K..1000K..+infinity/-infinity..-1000K..
How can we be sure? A negative temperature system will transfer heat energy to a postive temperature system when the two systems are in thermal contact. Heat flows from hot objects to cold objects, so negative temperatures are hotter.
To summarize the link you provided, negative temperatures only can be realized in systems which have an upper bound to their energy. In practice, this means that one is looking at a restricted set of degrees of freedom of a larger system as a system in isolation from the larger system. For instance, consider just the spins of atoms or nuclei, as separate from the spins+kinetic energy of the atoms or nuclei. As the spins of nuclei are often weakly coupled to the kinetic energy (i.e. collisions or atomic vibrations do not easily flip nuclear spins), this is a good approximation. In reality, if you put the spins into a negative temperature state, the energy of the spins will eventually dissipate, cooling the spins, while slightly increasing the kinetic energy in the system.
(The mathematical reason for this is that temperature is actually the reciprocal of a microscopically meaningful property.)
when atoms cease to vibrate and radiate no heat whatsoever
This is somewhat incorrect. According to the kinetic theory of gases, and more specifically the Zeroth Law of Thermodynamics, absolute zero is the temperature at which the mass of atoms go to zero. From E_k = (1/2)mv^2, and with kinetic theory of gases stating that motion is random (in fact it must be in order to have our everyday ideal gases treated as such), then v can not equal zero, so m must. Really this is just how we choose to look at absolute zero from our warmer world, things begin to change at that low temperature.
So the coldest place in the universe is only 5000 light years away? That's just around the corner in our sector of the galactic disk. The rest of the universe extends 10 to 20 billion light years in all other directions, so how do they know THIS particular place is the coldest in the universe? They couldn't have measured the temperature everywhere else... and it's likely there is some other nebula, somewhere, that is slightly colder.
Religion is based on faith, that's what defines it.
Faith in what? Do you really understand what faith is? You can't have faith in someone or something until you're sure that they exist, and that something has been promised.
In the case of Judeo-Christian religions, it is God in who you must have faith, because He has promised something that you can't prove that He'll give you. You can justify this by looking back at what He has already done, but this doesn't prove anything.
Money is a good example, in an economic system, you must have faith in money. For any particular piece of money, there is a promise that other people will take it in exchange for goods/services. You can take a piece of money and see that it's true, but you can't prove that it's true for the rest of your cash.
People who believe there is a god because they "have faith" are really deluding themselves. Who or what is it that they have faith in?
The article summary is made of sentences quoted exactly from the article, strung together as if they were logically connected, even though they're from different paragraphs talking about different things.
I have to conclude that this submission came from Microsoft Word's "AutoSummarize".
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>"More than 11 billion years later, this heat has cooled to minus 270 degrees, but is still detectable."
:)4
;)
13.7 to be 99% exact
http://nyteknik.se/pub/ipsart.asp?art_id=2652
swedish text there, sorry for that. But better then nothing
Hey! That's my sig you're smoking there!
And to those of you that complain that /. is too U.S.-centric, I point out that the temperature references in the posting header are centigrade, not farenheit.
/. isn't U.S.-centric, of course. ;)
I'm not saying
I'm just pointing out that they aren't always.
And yes, I realize the article came from Australia.
Of course, they really should have said which scale (centigrade/farenheit/kelvin/etc) they are using in the submission itself, for those that don't know the numbers off the top of their head, but we'll take what we can get, I suppose.
for reference -
Absolute Zero temperatures:
Farenheit: -459.67
Centigrade: -273.15
Kelvin: 0
I read 8^) as "Eight to the power of parenthesis"
"The question of whether a computer can think is no more interesting than that of whether a submarine can swim" -EWD
Oh yeah! And they found a fossil at the north pole that fell off of Mars... I guess I'll have to take their word on it. :-)
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What a crock of shit, totally assuing the big bang actually happend....
They haven't met my ex-girlfriend yet.
More than 11 billion years later, this heat has cooled to minus 270 degrees, but is still detectable."
After only 2 of dating years I think she'd made it well past absolute zero.....
There are some people that if they don't know, you can't tell 'em.
Application of classical statistics (Boltzmann) to highly quantized systems. Fermi-Dirac statistics don't yield negative temperatures. See ch. 22 in Hill's "An introduction to Statistical Thermodynamics" (Dover).
You don't propose that we're *supposed* to believe that it came from *nothing*, are you?
Thanks for the excellent response and book suggestion. I just took it out of the library at your suggestion.
GL
The temprature is from where the radiation source.
When the universe began with the Big Bang, there was a bunch of radiation left over. As the universe expanded, the wavelength of that radiation got longer, becoming microwave frequency over time. If you point a microwave detector at the sky, there is this microwave radiation from any direction you look. Using formulas I don't remember, the energy of this radiation has a certain temprature, XX Kelvins. This cloud has a measured temprature (same formula) that is lower.
Sort of like the Jolt cola being the only frozen thing in the ice box.
For more information ( and formulas) try http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap030220.html
As many pointed out, internal energy of the quantum system can't be less then some zero-level > 0. On the other hand, temperature is statistical property and if we extend it to non-equilibrium systems, it is possible to have inverse population of energy levels, which resilts in negative velue for temperature. (gas lasers) p ~ exp(-e/kT)
The coldest place in the universe is in 2001 Nobel Prize winner Carl Weinman's Lab in Boulder, Colorado. Temperatures as low as 3nK (3 billionths of a Kelvin) have been achieved.
How cold is it with WIND CHILL factored in?
Eat at Joe's.
50 Fahrenheit (10 C). Californians shiver uncontrollably. Canadians plant gardens.
35 Fahrenheit (1.6 C). Italian Cars won't start. Canadians drive with the windows down
32 Fahrenheit (0 C). American water freezes. Canadian water gets thicker.
0 Fahrenheit (-17.9 C). New York City landlords finally turn on the heat. Canadians have the last cookout of the season.
-60 Fahrenheit (-51 C). Mt.St. Helens freezes. Canadian Girl Guides sell cookies door-to-door.
-100 Fahrenheit (-73 C). Santa Claus abandons the North Pole. Canadians pull down their ear flaps.
-173 Fahrenheit (-114 C). Ethyl alcohol Freezes. Canadians get frustrated when they can't thaw the keg.
-460 Fahrenheit (-273 C). Absolute zero; all atomic motion stops. Canadians start saying "cold, eh?"
-500 Fahrenheit (-295 C). Hell freezes over. Canadians are annoyed because their Saabs take a second try to start.
When I am king, you will be first against the wall.
Nope... the coldest place in the universe occurs when you get Aaron & Helene together.
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Cool! "Mere Christianity" is one of my favorite books. Drop me an email, if you want to discuss it.
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It shocks me to find so many anti-big-bang postings after this story. And not constructive criticisms, but rather religious-sounding trolls.
I feel like I just showed up at a meeting of the Flat Earther's society. One of you even offered: "Don't even get me started on evolution."
This is not what I have come to expect from Slashdotters in general. We argue intelligently (for the most part) about topics such as which operating system eats the most dick, and then people decide that evolution is something that shouldn't even be taken seriously.
Yes, these things are theories, but when I see Slashdotters giving empty objections to theories for the sake of them being theories, I get sick to my stomach.
Ok, back to work.
~D
Surely intergalactic space (in the voids of those "bubble" structures) would be much colder. There's radiation everywhere in space, getting the temperature down is just a question of minimizing it.
Nope... the coldest place in the universe occurs when you get Aaron & Helene together.
Steve Magruder, Metro Foodist
The gas cloud in question is only 5k l-y away, which is a drop in the bucket when you consider the galaxy alone is 100k l-y in diameter or so. I think that declaring this to be the coldest thing in the universe is just a wee bit premature.
Moderators, the parent post is NOT a troll. Please fix by modding as funny.
Thanks,
CD
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The coldest place in the universe is my ex-lovers hearts...