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RIAA Apologizes for Incorrect Infringement Notice

theradixhunter writes "News.com is reporting that the RIAA has apologized to the Pennsylvania State University for sending a threatening letter making an incorrect allegations of copyright violations. It appears that the automated system that the RIAA uses picked the term "Usher" and the extenstion ".mp3" on an FTP site hosting the work of Professor Emeritus Peter Usher and falsely assumed that the files were songs by the musician Usher. The university accepted the apology saying "that this was an honest mistake by the recording industry" and Spokesman Tysen Kendig said Penn State "remains committed to working closely with the RIAA"."

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  1. Perfectly reasonable by YellowElectricRat · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'd be happy if the RIAA deleted every file in the world containing the strings 'Usher' and 'mp3'. Sure, there could be innocent casualties, but think of the lives that would be saved...

  2. finally by tetro · · Score: 2, Insightful

    finally, a public apology. Didn't this happen a while back when some child got in trouble for having a Word document and the line "Harry Potter" was found.

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    1. Re:finally by outsider007 · · Score: 5, Funny

      in other news, professor bob metallica is still waiting for his apology.

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  3. So... by nebaz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is the RIAA going to pay for the legal fees the university incurred? Or the time they could have used to educate their students rather than going on a wild goose chase? I rather doubt it.

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    1. Re:So... by hype7 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      more importantly, it shows why the RIAA shouldn't have instant access to ISP details (Verizon case IIRC). They make mistakes; a judge is a relevant and important step in the way of preventing innocent people from being nailed for errors like this.

      -- james

    2. Re:So... by Gortbusters.org · · Score: 4, Insightful

      In other words we have corporations snooping in on our transport medium. It's a dangerous slippery slope, what's next... I turn on my computer and it says "Your internet may be monitored for quality assurance purposes."

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    3. Re:So... by etrnl · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If it's username and password restricted, it doesn't matter if it's guessable. You can still claim it was hacked, because they were not the authorized user of that account.

      After all, most hacks are done to people who did not adequately secure themselves. There's a difference between open and vulnerable, and it is a legal distinction.

      --etrnl--

    4. Re:So... by MisterMook · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Its also a reason why the Patriot Act is a bad idea, because ALL people make mistakes and having access to information doesn't automatically make people informed. Checks and balances for all sorts of things are being thrown away in this country or legislated away in the interest of fighting "the war on piracy" or "the war on terror" and it just isn't a good idea. Accountability and review are GOOD things, the RIAA should have checked things BEFORE they sent a letter.

    5. Re:So... by Stephan+Schulz · · Score: 3, Interesting

      While an FTP site with anonymous access is much less private than a phone conversation or an individuals car or home, does this start to push into the realm of search warrants?


      There is certainly a fuzzy area as to whether the public FTP site "consents" to entry and search in the same way a suspect can consent to letting authorites search his home or whatever.


      I think there is a correct assumption that what is public is public - otherwise the whole internet breaks down. However,
      I wonder if a "robots.txt" file is a "technological measure to effectively control access to a copyrighted work", and a RIAA spider that spiders a server with such a file violates the DMCA.
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    6. Re:So... by Latent+IT · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Oxdung. A burglar won't get away with "but, your honour, his unlocked screen door was flapping in the wind, so I was able to go in his house without any effort".

      Well, no. But that's because they're a burglar - they'd get charged with *theft*, but not breaking and entering. Which is why it's called breaking and entering, and not just uh... entering. =p

    7. Re:So... by sqlrob · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It was *NOT* an honest mistake.

      If you don't verify that infringement is actually happening, don't blame them for it.

      You're saying the RIAA can't afford 3 or 4 people to verify infringements? Those people are going to be cheaper in the long run than if they make too many mistakes and get sued over those mistakes, or even just the bad publicity from it.

  4. MediaForce by mrpuffypants · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Once again, I feel it's appropriate to slam MediaForce and their gang of sleazebag nerds that write the software that does this.

    For shame....

    1. Re:MediaForce by micq · · Score: 4, Funny

      really? don't player hate?

    2. Re:MediaForce by Steven+Blanchley · · Score: 2, Interesting
      As another poster noted, the site still works without the www. Is this news thing hilarious or what?

      Music Business Falls Off Scale
      Much of the blame is laid on pirated music downloaded from the Internet, especially in the United States....

      Indeed, and look how far out of their way they go to avoid mentioning who laid it there. That story, and four others of only ten on that page, are broken links.

  5. A Small Victory, Perhaps... by Stephonovich · · Score: 5, Insightful
    ... But a victory nonetheless.

    I have nothing better to do while waiting for a kernel to compile, so...

    I find it to be the usual government style of action: act first, apologize later. They send out threat form letters to anyone who might be violating their stupid-*** laws, and then when they find they're wrong, they throw out a whoops, and they're done. There is something very wrong with that picture.

    (-:Stephonovich:-)

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    1. Re:A Small Victory, Perhaps... by Stephonovich · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Yes, I do. I was simply saying it's rather like the government in it's modus operandi.

      (-:Stephonovich:-)

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    2. Re:A Small Victory, Perhaps... by LamerX · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Oh so you think. Who's pockets do you think get lined to pass laws like the one that extends copyright indefinitely? Or how about the DMCA? Or how about the CDBPTA, or DPCPTA or whatever it's called? I'm sure that there were plenty of lobbyists in the government, and plenty of politicans that are former or still are CEOs or VPs. The problem today is that he who has the most money, can get into office, and pay lobbyists enough money, and run the biggest campaigns to get whatever they want done.

    3. Re:A Small Victory, Perhaps... by LX.onesizebigger · · Score: 2, Funny

      And this is why Slashdot should not be your only source of news.

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  6. Why pay attention when your extorting? by FredThompson · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Why should the RIAA check their "sources"? They're making a lot of money/press by blackmail and coercion.

    Just a matter of time before they pick on the wrong people.

    It would be interesting to see how many time the RIAA systems access servers with restricted use policies: "Ve haf found der pirate!!!!" "No, you've trespassed on the private server of esquires Anastacia Lopez and Santana Aguilera of the law firm that prosecuted the tobacco settlement. Pay up."

    1. Re:Why pay attention when your extorting? by micq · · Score: 5, Funny

      interesting.... maybe a honeypot for riaa? my voice, recorded over and over again, saying "What the fuck do you think your doing?" and published to the web as actual songs... then when they send me letters over and over again, I sue for harassment and undue mental stress... then change the server ip/name and start all over again...

      It's so brilliant.

      er... and oh yeah:
      (3) profit.

    2. Re:Why pay attention when your extorting? by sisukapalli1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I agree... It is also just a matter of time before some people's careers or lives will be irreversibly harmed by this "shoot first, ask questions later" approach. All for protecting a dying business model of corportations that refuse to be nimble.

      I hope that one day the RIAA programs will trespass some secret government sites and the execs get punished as severely as Kevin Mitnick was.

      S

    3. Re:Why pay attention when your extorting? by evilviper · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Why should the RIAA check their "sources"?

      Well let's see... You put the name "Usher" in one of your own songs, and RIAA sends you the legal documents telling you to cease...

      Well, that would be adequate legal evidence that they have illegially downloaded YOUR copyrighted material, and YOU can sue them for damages. They are not law enforcement, they have no legal immunity.

      Nice change huh? Sue RIAA for pirating your music... Now if they hadn't sent the cease document, you would have a hard time proving all of this to a judge.

      And just think, either the RIAA will have to pay you a truckload of money, or it will set a precident basically relieving anyone of legal liability for files they have downloaded.
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    4. Re:Why pay attention when your extorting? by Wordsmith · · Score: 2, Funny

      D'oh, then Madonnna will sue you for infringing on her original masterpiece!

    5. Re:Why pay attention when your extorting? by Dylan+Zimmerman · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You have a really good point there. They seem to think that they are the only ones that own any copyrighted music.

      Even more effective would be to make a group called one of the words from the title of one of Usher's songs and then use Usher in the song name. That would get at least two hits on their theft-o-meter unless they fix it Real Soon Now.

      Of course, they don't have to download your material to see its title. That might throw a fairly large wrench into that idea. Plus, where would you put it? If it's on a P2P network, then they could argue that you intentionally made it available for download. Therefore, you would need to put it on a private FTP.

      Now, a harassment suit would stick a lot better. You could argue that the RIAA is sending you baseless C&D letters and get a court to order them to pay you for any damages that you might face. It's too bad that this university doesn't understand what a threat to free speach the RIAA is.

      You could even sue for mental anguish or some other outlandish thing that is impossible to disprove.

      Of course, if they apologized without you giving them permission to download the file, then THAT could be construed as infringement of your copyright. They would have to listen to the file to verify that it wasn't really Usher. Either that or trust you, but we all know that the RIAA doesn't trust people.

    6. Re:Why pay attention when your extorting? by petecarlson · · Score: 2, Interesting

      And in the latter case, what the hell does that actually mean? That doesn't mean that uploading copyrighted materials would be relieved of legal liability

      How is uploading illegal? Just because I put my mp3s, that I legaly own, in an un-linked directory on my web server does not mean that I want anyone else to download them. They are there for my personal use so that I can listen to my music from anywhere. It is not my responsibility to make sure no one steals copies of them.

    7. Re:Why pay attention when your extorting? by ColaMan · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Ha! Excellent Idea!

      Put your copyrighted file on a website with a click-through EULA :

      "Users downloading these songs must agree to pay the copyright owner *1 BILLION* dollars for each song downloaded. (Insert usual boilerplate here) To accept the terms of this agreement , press the "I Agree" button".

      Make sure you advertise with google your website and it's file for download. Used a sponsored link if you feel like it.

      The following steps :

      1) They click through, get file, send cease and desist.
      2) Me : "oh, you downloaded my file? Glad you liked it!excuse me, where's my BILLION dollars?"
      3) RIAA get their crack legal team out to defend themselves.

      End result is either:

      1) RIAA proves that click through EULA's are not valid. We can ignore Microsoft and their EULA's all we want after that, with the added happy bonus of using an Evil Corps lawyers against another Evil corp.

      or (my personal favorite)

      3) Microsoft weighs in on my side with their legal team and I get my billion dollars. Ok, I'll donate a few million to the Gates foundation, and the EFF ;-) Again the happy bonus of using an Evil Corps lawyers against another Evil corp.

      Maybe we could turn it into a sport - corporation-baiting, here we come!

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    8. Re:Why pay attention when your extorting? by JimDabell · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Well, that would be adequate legal evidence that they have illegially downloaded YOUR copyrighted material, and YOU can sue them for damages.

      Actually, even if you ignore the fact that you are offering the file for download yourself, their error clearly shows that they only looked at the filename, they didn't listen to it. You don't need to download something to see the filename.

      Now, if somebody were to have, say, the first ten seconds of an Usher song as the start of an mp3, and then 20 minutes of somebody criticising that style of music, that would fall under fair use. It would also confuse them once they start to check that the music is actually infringing.

    9. Re:Why pay attention when your extorting? by Trickster+Coyote · · Score: 2, Interesting

      They seem to think that they are the only ones that own any copyrighted music.

      This is an ugly meme that seems to be spreading among people who don't stop to think or who don't understand the nature of copyright. For example my web hosting service (and many others, I'm sure) has the following clause in their AUP:

      Users may not... Use an account to host and/or distribute copyrighted software or files.

      If I were to take this clause literally, I could never put anything on my website other than a blank page since anything I create would be copyrighted by me. Also I wouldn't be able to help my nephew by putting up mp3s of his band since their are also copyrighted, even though he wants me to post them.

      Of course this could this be all corrected simply by adding the words "without the permission of the copyright holder" to the end of the clause. But obviously to them only entities that can hold copyrights are big music, movie and software companies.

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  7. Ok, so score one for the RIAA by Spazholio · · Score: 4, Funny

    That makes it what, roughly a billion or so to go until they've atoned for stifling creativity and ruining music? Anyway, what kind of company would use software that sends out cease and desist letters automatically? Shouldn't there be at least SOME human intervention? That way, someone could say, "Hey, I've never heard of this Professor Usher. Did we just sign him? Maybe we should look into this. Or at least, I dunno...listen to the file first?"

    1. Re:Ok, so score one for the RIAA by WaxParadigm · · Score: 2, Informative

      There is human intervention, with EVERY letter - this time some employee just didn't follow the procedure. It's probably cause they're paid by the letter or some shit (like the stop light cameras that are run by companies who get a piece of each ticket) which only motivates them to do as little checking as possible to get their numbers up.

  8. Like MS Office vs OpenOffice.org by DJ+Rubbie · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Just like that other time when OpenOffice.org got nailed for distributing their own software.

    Yup, that's their mentality: Guilty until proven innocent.

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  9. I hope they accuse Darth Vader of piracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...because we know how he accepts apologies!

  10. subtlety of the term "temp employee" by swifticus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "We have withdrawn, and apologize for, the DMCA notice that had been sent to Penn State University in error. In order to safeguard against errors like this one, we have individuals look at each and every notice we send out. In this particular instance, a temp employee made a mistake and did not follow RIAA's established protocol, and we regret any inconvenience this may have caused. We are currently reviewing any other notices this temp may have sent."

    I think by "temp employee," they mean to say the person responsible is now fired. Doesn't sound like the RIAA really took responsibility for the incident either, but rather placed the blame on John Doe.

    1. Re:subtlety of the term "temp employee" by adsl · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Simply amazing that the RIAA with all their highly paid Lawyers is actually run by temporary employees who have the real Power. LOL Are the RIAA for real, trying to blame some temp employee upon whom they gifted the ultimate powers of a Billion dollar organization..... Sort of sets up a defence, I am sorry I didn't actually download these illegal music files, it was done by a temp empoyee of mine who I have fired. Please accept my apologises like yours were accepted by Penn State University or is there one Rule for you and another fo me:)

  11. Penn should have pushed its advantages by SysKoll · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Penn acted as spineless morons.

    They should have slapped the RIAA fools with a libel lawsuit and requested an injunction to keep RIAA away from their computers forever or else. Then, only then, settled out of court if needed.

    You can't even trust academia to defend their own these days. Sheesh.

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    1. Re:Penn should have pushed its advantages by MikeJ9919 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I take issue with that. As the Director of Technology Affairs for Penn State's Undergraduate Student Government, I'd just like to say that Penn State is not spineless in the slightest. However, they only show this amazing amount of courage when slapping around students. As you may have noticed in all sorts of press (NYTimes, USA Today, others...), Penn State recently nailed a bunch of students with violations of the DMCA. What they didn't tell you (thank you, press) was that Penn State blatantly violated its own policy of not monitoring student network activity. I know what you're thinking...but they could be sued if they didn't comply, right? Nope. Penn State INITIATED the investigation. They didn't get any kind of takedown notice. Fortunately, a student body of 40,000 does give us SOME pull in the student government. One of the people in Judicial Affairs was quoted in the school newspaper as saying that they only gave them a slap on the wrist because they wanted to avoid a lawsuit...which any student would have been perfectly justified in filing. Unfortunately, since we're poor college students, it's too damn easy to kick us around.

      -Mike-

    2. Re:Penn should have pushed its advantages by finkployd · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Penn acted as spineless morons.

      With a member of the RIAA on the board of trustees, I doubt PSU will ever stand up to the RIAA, no matter what they do.

      You can't even trust academia to defend their own these days. Sheesh.

      Look at the state of higher ed today. It is all about corporate sponsership and pleasing their corporate masters. The students are just a necessary annoyance. At PSU our career services building is called the MBNA building and Pepsi products are the only soft drinks that are allowed to be sold on campus.

      Finkployd

  12. horrible apology by asavage · · Score: 5, Funny
    By way of additional apology, the RIAA said it will send Peter Usher an Usher CD and T-shirt "in appreciation of his understanding."

    Worst apology ever.

  13. What's in a name? by LeRoco · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Fact - My first name is Rock (R - o - c - k)(Yes that's what my parents choose)
    Fact - I'm in the Radio business
    Fact - I have lots of Mp3's named rockxx.mp3 on my computers (where xx is a number)

    I can't imagine the drool that would be produced by the RIAA if they were to ever come across my hard drive. I'm sure they would think "Pay-Dirt!!" When in actuality it's just another voice in the crowded radio dial.

    I'll have to warn my good buddy John L. Zeppelin to be on the lookout for the RIAA piranha. (His real name too!)

  14. Ha! Now that's ironic by Phoenix666 · · Score: 4, Funny

    The RIAA suing a professor for violating the copyright of a band named Usher, for which they should be getting sued to death by the heirs of Edgar Allen Poe.

    Ahem, no matter what I predict we will see the Fall of the House of Usher...

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  15. Re:Assasination by offpath3 · · Score: 3, Funny

    I too would think twice if someone assassinated me.

  16. Re:Hit Me Baby One More Time by wo1verin3 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    On that note, maybe we should start putting files called "this_is_not_britney_spears_hit_me_baby_one_more_t ime.txt.mp3" files on public ftp servers..

    That aside, is there any sort of legal problem with the RIAA randomly searching FTP sites and logging in to them searching through directories for files? Is this unauthorized access if there is an MOTD that states they are not allowed to access it?

  17. "Honest mistake" ?!?!?!? by drdanny_orig · · Score: 5, Interesting
    If you think about it, almost every word in the English language appears in some band's name somewhere. The mistake may have been "honest" (although I find that a questionable use of the word), but they're apt to be making it a lot in the coming months.

    And it would also appear that simply using a phony filename extension will be enough to fool the "automated system." From now on, I and all my partners in tune trading criminal activities will use .RIAA to denote classic .mp3, and .MPAA instead of .mpg or .mpeg, but only on even numbered days. Other times we'll switch 'em around. That oughta hold 'em off for a while.

    Oops! Did I just divulge a circumvention technique? Will I be liable for prosecution under DMCA or US-PATRIOT or some other silly-ass law?

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    1. Re:"Honest mistake" ?!?!?!? by shepd · · Score: 5, Funny

      RIAA man wants to speak with you for using the terms "Honest" and "Mistake".

      Search results for Honest found "Rolling Stones", clearly a signed artist.

      Search results for Mistake found "Sheryl Crow", also a signed artist.

      Please do not encourage the use of the english language for furthering piracy anymore.

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  18. Usher & MP3 were not even in the same file! by anagama · · Score: 3, Informative

    Get this: The department has on its faculty a professor emeritus named Peter Usher whose work on radio-selected quasars the FTP site hosted. The site also had a copy of an a capella song performed by astronomers about the Swift gamma ray satellite, which Penn State helped to design.

    That kind of search could only be termed "shotgun".

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  19. database of RIAA ips? by Lawrence_Bird · · Score: 4, Interesting

    is there any database of RIAA server IP's or their minions? Just on general principles I would like to block them all. Their actions are damn close to illegal search and seizure, at least IMHO.

    1. Re:database of RIAA ips? by heXXXen · · Score: 5, Informative

      the range of ip adresses that the RIAA owns

      just block them on your firewall

    2. Re:database of RIAA ips? by cptgrudge · · Score: 3, Insightful
      It's like you're having a garage sale, all your stuff sitting on your front lawn, inviting everyone to come by and take a look. In addition you lay out a nice sack of Marijuana and a cop walks by, I guess if he busts you without a search warrant it's illegal search and seizure?

      RIAA =! Law Enforcement

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    3. Re:database of RIAA ips? by sigh71 · · Score: 5, Informative

      if you are in the windows world there is an app out there called peer guardian that blocks all riaa/mpaa etc type ips from connecting to your machine...

      i think it gets its banned ip's from here

      http://www.simply-click.org/uploadertest/pg2.asp

  20. yea, easy to make false allegations first by dh003i · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Yea, it's real easy to make false and unsubstantiatable allegations first, then apologize if someone their false when someone provides proof. That's alot easier and cheaper than actually verifying the validity of the accusation first. The RIAA doesn't give a flying fuck that this costs individuals and universities thousands of dollars. Not their concern -- after all, in the US, you're free to make false and ludicrous accusations against anyone without any proof.

  21. Weird names are awsome! by Savatte · · Score: 4, Funny

    I have a friend named Billy G. Metallica-Sucks.

    Ok maybe not. I don't really have any friends.

  22. Re:Perhaps by Moonshadow · · Score: 3, Funny

    Better yet, virus-riddled files named Britney Spears - One More Time.mp3.exe - let them download and "check" them. ;)

  23. Overloading the namespace. by ktakki · · Score: 2, Funny

    I suppose it's only a matter of time before the same thing happens to Professore Arturo Metallica of the University of Milan.

    k.

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  24. Hosting Fake Files by aSiTiC · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This gives me a great idea. Just like RIAA/MPAA is flooding p2p networks with fake files we could flood their search methods with fake files.

    If every internet user with a webpage hosted 2-3 blank mp3 files with names like "BritneySpears-Baby.mp3", etc... The time it would take RIAA/MPAA to find all of them and verify them as blank would flood their capabilities.

    1. Re:Hosting Fake Files by efuseekay · · Score: 2, Funny

      Good idea. You might get free Britney T-shirts.

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    2. Re:Hosting Fake Files by geeklawyer · · Score: 2, Funny

      great idea. heres an improvement. Actually provide an mp3, named as you suggest, with a recording of you saying "RIAA, what the fuck do you think you are doing?"

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    3. Re:Hosting Fake Files by clickety6 · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's already happening. Every time I download mp3s that are marked Britney Spears or Back Street Boys or some other recent artist, all I get is a completely crap song that nobody in their right mind would download for free let along pay for... Where are the real songs?!?

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  25. The current state of things... by SpyderPSU · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm an undergrad here at Penn State. Over the past few months they have been cracking down on copyrighted materials. They emailed the following letter to every student in the University:

    I have a serious message for you about making illegal copies of copyrighted material. While you may be tempted not to read this email, I suggest that you do so in order to better understand just what the risks and penalties are for violating the law.

    In recent years, high-speed computer networks and personal computers have made it easy to copy computer programs, movies, and recordings. Most of this material is copyrighted, which means the right to make copies is restricted. Making copies of any copyrighted material without the right to do so is against both state and federal law and University policy. Most people who make illegal copies know it is wrong, but are unaware of how severe the penalties can be.

    The US Copyright Law (Title 17 of the US Code) has very serious penalties for violations. These include significant fines for each copy. If you copy more than $1,000 worth of material, there are criminal penalties that include substantial fines of up to $250,000 and up to 10 years prison time for flagrant cases of infringement.

    The software, record, and movie industries are stepping up their enforcement of copyright laws. They are using computer technology to detect those who run servers or simply download something they have no right to possess. The likelihood of being caught is growing every day, and prosecutions will become more frequent.

    You may have downloaded copyrighted materials and not been caught, so you think you're safe from prosecution. I urge you to think again. Two students in Oregon were caught and prosecuted under the criminal statutes. One received a suspended two-year sentence, the other spent time in jail. A student in North Carolina spent 41 months in prison for copyright infringement. Messing up your future is a steep price to pay for music or a video.

    What happens at Penn State if you are caught? By statute, the University must immediately block your network access when we receive notification that a particular computer has been involved in a violation of the law. You may also be taken to court by the copyright holder or charged in the federal courts with a crime. That is not all that can happen. You should know that falsely certifying either that you have the right to material or have removed it can result in federal perjury charges as well as copyright infringement.

    What else does Penn State do? When we receive a complaint, student offenders are referred to the Office of Judicial Affairs and employees to the Office of Human Resources. Why? Because it is illegal and against University policy to infringe on someone's copyright. A student can be expelled and an employee terminated under University policy.

    The bottom line is that there is a potentially high price to pay for an illegally copied computer program, movie, or recording. Stealing is stealing and against the law, regardless of how you try to justify it.

    Thank you for your cooperation.

    Rodney A. Erickson March 31, 2003


    After the letter was sent 220 students were served notices from the Judicial Affairs Office. You can read more about it in the school newspaper. school newspaper. In the article it says, "Rodack said it can take only one complaint against a student before dorm Internet connection is shut down and he or she is investigated."

    Has anyone else seen the same pattern at their school? Is this par for the course?

    Can this post get any longer?

    1. Re:The current state of things... by NetDrain · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The direct connect hub that a student ran here at Cal Poly in California raised its head too high and got cut off -- the student got a judicial review and ran off with his tail between his legs.

      Even my Residential Advisor got nailed for a movie. People get their ports shut off and get called in by the dozens. My friend who works in the Residential Network offices, in addition to telling us what they're cracking down on, told me that they get a good deal of letters from the MPAA and the RIAA, demanding specific students knock it off: under the DMCA, our school acts as an ISP, and can be held accountable. It hasn't really deterred anyone, and there haven't been any criminal charges, but students get nailed all the time.

      Except those who still know how to lie low and run Hotline servers.

    2. Re:The current state of things... by int69h · · Score: 5, Interesting
      You'd think that a university should understand copyright better.
      Making copies of any copyrighted material without the right to do so is against both state and federal law and University policy.

      Hogwash. Making copies of anyone's copyrighted materials is permitted by US law. Distributing those copies is another matter entirely. I propose they rename it to copyanddistributeright.

      Sorry I forgot the block in the closing blockquote.
    3. Re:The current state of things... by stubear · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You only have the right to copy intellectual property you personally own and only for limited uses. You do not have the right to copy your pal's entier CD collection under ANY definition of copyright law and associated legal rulings. By stating "without the right to do so" they are saying that not withstanding issues like fair use it is illegal to make copies of copyrighted material.

  26. Appology NOT accepted! by pair-a-noyd · · Score: 2, Funny

    Off with their heads!!

  27. Yes, we do: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ::breathes::

    ::breathes:: What ::breathes:: in ::breathes:: the ::breathes:: name ::breathes:: of ::breathes:: the ::breathes:: force ::breathes:: do ::breathes:: you ::breathes:: think ::breathes:: you're ::breathes:: doing? ::breathes::

    ::outstretches hand::

    ::breathes::

  28. Exciting MP3s on my site! by Animats · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm waiting for the RIAA to find my MP3s of key sections of meetings of the Santa Clara County Board of Supervisors.

  29. Re:horrible apology by cptgrudge · · Score: 2, Funny
    Was I the only person that read/heard that in the Simpsons Comic Book Guy voice?

    "Worst. Apology. Ever."

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  30. Re:Hit Me Baby One More Time by Esion+Modnar · · Score: 2, Insightful
    On that note, maybe we should start putting files called "this_is_not_britney_spears_hit_me_baby_one_more_t ime.txt.mp3" files on public ftp servers..

    Madonna and others place bogus mp3 files out there, just to make it harder to find real mp3's...

    And now we're going to put bogus mp3 files out there, to make it harder for the RIAA to find real mp3's (and up their noise to signal ratio)...

    i like it, i like it!

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  31. Hilary Rosen is a Child Molester by Detritus · · Score: 3, Funny
    Hilary Rosen is a human.
    All child molesters are human.
    Therefore, Hilary Rosen is a child molester.

    This syllogism is brought to you by the RIAA Institute of Critical Thinking and Logic.

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  32. Read this: by nate+nice · · Score: 2, Interesting

    this is a bit of good reading from Steve Albini. If you don't know who he is, well, he has been a figure on the indoe music seen from bands like Big Black and Shellac. He has engineered albums from Nirvana as well. His production style is often imitated. In short, he's the shit. Go here to learn something

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  33. RIAA == Penn State Board Member by asv108 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Penn State is working closely with the RIAA because Barry Robinson a lawyer for the RIAA is on the Board of Trustees so instead of representing the interests of the university and protecting the students, Penn State president Grahm Spanier has chosen to let a trustee influence university policy for the sake of the crooked organization he works for. I should post this AC but I really dont give an fsck. Penn State is dedicated to building unnecessary buildings while removing as much parking as possible. I now have to walk 20 mins from a staff parking lot to work so fire me before I die of heat stroke this summer ;)

  34. Re:A new advocate by Technician · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Notice the Prof is now looking into the excess dammage by the DMCA and is contacting Congress? We need more of these to hit Congress.

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  35. a little off-topic joke by enos · · Score: 5, Funny

    This reminds me of a joke:

    Jason has a conversation with his new neighbour Pete:

    J: So what do you do?
    P: I teach deducive logic.
    J: Huh?
    P: Let me demonstrate. Do you have a dog?
    J: Yes.
    P: From this I deduce that you have a family?
    J: Yeah.
    P: And a wife?
    J: Yeah.
    P: And if you have a wife, I deduce that you are heterosexual.
    J: That's amazing!

    After this Jason visits his friend Chris:
    J: I just found out this awesome field called deducive logic.
    C: Say what?
    J: Let me demonstrate. Do you have a dog?
    C: No.
    J: Then you must be gay.

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    1. Re:a little off-topic joke by panurge · · Score: 2, Interesting
      That's inductive logic, not deductive. The conclusions do not necessarily follow from the facts*, but if a number of pertinent facts are discovered they make the conclusion more likely. Scientsist and police detectives use inductive, not deductive, logic

      *Many people have dogs who do not have families and there are many gay men who get married.

      This information brought to you by a bored pedant

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  36. Not the RIAA, but similar situation by inaeldi · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Kind of reminds me when I was in high school. I had an mp3 of "Hack the Planet" (from H2K) on my network drive, and the school deleted it, locked my network drive, and called me to the office for having "illegal mp3's". I never got an apology though...

  37. The RIAA will never have my sympathy now. by Tokerat · · Score: 2


    They are filling lawsuits without even CHECKING to see if defendants are in violation? Am I violating a copyright if I change the FILENAME of my mp3s to infringing titles?

    Boy, it's awful they're just going to let this slide. I would file a countersuit claiming libel/slander at a bare minimum, even if it where to be thrown out, just to make a point to them. Of course, I noticed a fairly recent post stating the RIAA is on the board of trustees at Penn State. Sad.

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  38. Do your part to show you agree with the RIAA! by teamhasnoi · · Score: 4, Funny
    Find RIAA employees.
    Hit them. In the face. Hard.
    When asked why, respond, "You look like someone who owed me money. Guess not. Sorry. Here's a Ultimate Fighting Championship T-shirt and DVD."

    It's great to be on board with the tactics used by our friendly copyright holders! Go Team!

  39. Re:Hit Me Baby One More Time by Repugnant_Shit · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm not sure you can have an FTP that allows anonymous access and not call it public. If you're going to host videos/songs then you should be smart about it. Some dumbass that puts an MP3 file on his school's FTP server deserves to get caught. Just don't allow anon access, and you should be okay (because if they try to break in, guess what? That's called illegal entry)

  40. "temp employee": sign of economic injustice by MickLinux · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I'd just like to make a point here: when you see "temp employee", what you are seeing is "we don't want to or can't pay this person a full time salary and benefits". In other words, we can't or won't pay the upkeep costs of our help.

    I can understand this for a startup company, as long as the company quickly moves to start covering the costs of its labor. But in the case of a wealthy organization, this means that the wealthy organization just *chooses* not to give economic justice. More for me, nothing for you.

    I have been seeing this more and more, and it is part of what ails America. It comes from the move to give more to the investors, and comes from the blinds that are provided by corporate coverage, in which the investors can't see the plight of their workers.

    But let me point out the results of economic injustice: if there is economic injustice, then the victim's investments remain unpaid, and in that case, it does not pay for the victim to invest!

    In the case of inventors who can't afford to patent and defend their inventions, because the patent system only benefits wealthy corporations, the proper response is to not devote effort to inventing.

    In the case where your compensation is not based upon justice, it does not pay to invest in an education that will make you a more valuable employee.

    In the case where businesses are taxed to death, so that other businesses can recieve lucrative government contracts, it does not pay to start a business and help the economy: it pays to work your own garden instead.

    In the case where individuals are taxed to death, to pay for more tax collectors, the farmer's strategy doesn't pay -- only the highway robber's strategy pays. If you want to see what this is like, look at Congo/Zaire.

    If you think it is getting bad, and the problem is the government, then tell the government. If you don't think they'll listen, then it's better to leave, and find a better place.

    Here's How.

    If you think it is getting bad, and the problem is the people (yeah, they're all good people, they just, well, you can depend on them to do really evil things), then it's doubly important to find a better group of people.

    Here's a hint.

    If worst comes to worst, duck, cover the ones you love as well as possible, stay out of the way of wars as much as possible, and try to live with as much justice and charity as possible.

    But the bible is absolutely right: when we choose to withhold a man's wages, we commit violence. When we choose economic theft as a regular diet, we commit murder. And we recreate our world to become a horror. Our spiritual failings definitely bring physical problems and death.

    Just my two cents. That's all.

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  41. Perjury? by SvnLyrBrto · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Don't those DMCA threaten & harass letters almost always include a statement along the lines of: "I hereby swear, under penalty of PERJURY, than I am the copyright holder or the legal representative therof."???

    Said statement was obviously NOT true in this case, and I don't think those letters include a disclamier like: "unless I get CAUGHT lieing, and apologize afterward".

    So do those "swear under penalty of perjury" clauses have any real legal validity? If so, isn't it appropiate for some RIAA/Metallica drones to be shareing bunkspace with Charlie Manson in the very near future? After all, when a regular citizen does it, perjury is a pretty BIG deal. Why should the RIAA/Metallica enjoy any immunity?

    Or are those lines not, in any way, legally binding? If that's the case, why include them at all?

    cya,
    john

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  42. Detailed instructions by Otto · · Score: 4, Informative

    For those who want to use PeerGuardian, here's how:

    1. Download PG from here: http://methlabs.org/pg/
    2. Install it.
    3. Edit "C:\Program Files\PeerGuardian\Guarding.P2P" in a text editor.
    4. Go to http://www.simply-click.org/uploadertest/pg2_plain text.asp for the plaintext list of ranges to block.
    5. Copy and Paste it into the Guarding.P2P file. It must have no empty lines at the beginning of the file, and must have at least one blank line at the end of the file.
    You may want to leave off the last few lines from that webpage, this is a submission type of thing, and new submissions are added to the bottom of the list. Delete the bad lines from morons and such at the end. They get onto the list every so often.
    6. Startup PG and make sure it reads in the block list correctly.

    Congratulations, you're now blocking all TCP connections with over 50 million IP addresses, most of which are probably "the bad guys". I don't generally steal music or offer up music, I just don't like these people and so I block them on principle.

    Also, PeerGuardian supports a pgdat:// type of link, so as new addresses are changed, you can click the links on http://www.simply-click.org/uploadertest/pg2.asp to add them to PeerGuardian directly instead of manually editing the blockfile.

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  43. A lesson learned? by syukton · · Score: 2

    "Things are not always as they appear." My father once told me this, and he was right, too.

    Seeing "Usher" in A FILE NAME, which just happens to end in .mp3, and then sending a threatening letter based upon it is rather stupid in my view. I'd say that making an accusation based upon looks and appearances alone (without even actually doing an acoustic analysis of the file in order to determine if it IS indeed a copy of copyrighted material) is completely and totally idiotic.

    Hell, it's roughly the same as seeing a fruit basket and assuming that since it looks like an apple it is an apple, and chowin' down; only to realize halfway through your second very zealous bite that it's wax fruit and you've screwed up.

    But odds are, the lesson hasn't been learned: the RIAA will continue to send out very threatening emails with great frequency every time they spot a word in a filename which happens to (by coincidence, I'm sure) belong to a musical artist that the RIAA "looks out for the best interests of."

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  44. simple way to prove their system doesn't work by manual_overide · · Score: 5, Funny

    cat /dev/urandom > /var/www/Britney_Spears_-_Greatest_Hits_Track01.mp 3

    of course, that might actually be the same command they use to create their "music"

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  45. Re:Consider it slammed =) by bobbozzo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's still working without the "www."

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  46. Perjury? by aechols · · Score: 3, Funny

    Don't they make these claims under penalty of perjury? So they're guilty of perjury. Clearly if there's a human or primate that actually sends the notice and not just a computer program, then they screwed up. If there isn't they're just plain reckless. So where's the penalty part? Oops! Sorry, lets just forget that we did something wrong, umkay? Umkay.

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  47. Automated Sticky Tarpit - RIConfuseBot by salimfadhley · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I have a mind to start a new sourceforge project - a bot that creates a tar-pit website to confuse this kind of bot.

    It would grab the album chart from FreeDB and then make a pseudo random listing of 20 or so artists. Clicking on an artist's name would reveal the names of the albums, and clicking on the album name would reveal links to song downloads as MP3s.

    Each page would have a 10 second delay on loading, and each MP3 download (which would be white noise) would be downloaed at about 10 bits per second. The idea would be to tie-up as many threads on thhe RIAA servers for as long as possible.

    Next, the system would run on a wildcarded domain name so that it would look to the RIAAbot as if it were a large number of sites. Each of these sites would link to each other creating a vast low bandwidth tarpit.

    How about that then?

  48. Apology? by chibiyoukai · · Score: 2, Funny

    An Usher CD and T-Shirt in "appreciation of his understanding" sounds more like a punishment than an apology.

  49. Or give it a valid name... by TamMan2000 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    like 'Ushering in change at RIAA.mp3'

    fill it with a rant about how much (and why) the RIAA sucks...

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  50. Re:Perjury != lying, == knowingly lying by Rysith · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Doesn't look like there's any penalty for just being wrong.

    That's the point of those lines: you aren't supposed to send out harassment letters unless you are sure that you are right, to prevent things like this.

  51. RIAA could cause harm by MegaThawt · · Score: 2, Interesting

    by mistakenly planting bogus files with the same name that they don't own. If RIAA mistakes someone else's file as one of their copyrighted ones (and we see how easy that was to do) they could be interfering with the distribution of someone else's property. That's in the same category as spamming, or worse. I hope there would be a way for the victim to get legal compensation ... seems like just a matter of time before it happens.

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  52. A little more information by aboyce · · Score: 2, Informative

    From the network admin mailing list at Penn State:

    "<i>...I was also led to believe that I am the first on-campus complaint where the RIAA allegations were not legitimate. We have a professor Peter Usher, and an mp3 file in another directory that was done a cappella by our employees and extols the capabilities of the Swift Gamma Ray Burst satellite that is scheduled to go into orbit later this year. Nothing else that would even come close to infringement.</i>"

  53. Slashdot the RIAA by Cruciform · · Score: 2, Interesting

    So if everyone were to just ramble on into a microphone about their favorite (or despised) artist, and then name it accordingly (eminem.mp3, madonna.mp3) and share it, the RIAA would have to keep paying lawyers for every warning they issue. The costs add up.

  54. Re:Using this to our advantage by Quixotic+Raindrop · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Actually, yes. I think you've hit the nail right on the head: one way to combat the stupidities of the RIAA and MPAA, and demonstrate that their arrogance and the DMCA clearly overstep all reasonable boundaries established in the Constitution, is to expose them.

    If the RIAA and MPAA are incapable of determining whether a given file is a violation of copyright automatically, then how is it that they expected Napster to do so? How about Verizon? Or any other ISP/University/person? Basically, the RIAA and MPAA get to talk out of both sides of their mouths (do as we say, not as we do?). This we must fight with all of our strength.

    Also, be sure to pad your files with random noise, or non-copyrighted things (reading aloud the works of Shakespeare, for example), so that the final file size reasonably approximates the size of the Matrix Reloaded movie on divx, or any given song you want to spoof. That way file size no longer serves as a useful way to determine whether a given file might be a violating file. Of course, this also makes it harder on people who have legitimate reasons to find those files (Matrix Reloaded may not have any legitimate reasons to be on p2p just yet, but I can think of at least two perfectly valid reasons for a person to d/l, say, "Music.mp3" by Madonna over p2p networks).

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