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Beyond Pringles: 802.11 Antenna From A Floppy Disk
real gumby writes "Shades of E.E. "Doc" Smith! Thomas Gee has made an 802.11 antenna from an old floppy disk and a paper clip. He credits this site for the inspiration (featuring an antenna from an old ice cream spoon). As MacPlus comments: "It's stylish, effective, and doesn't detract from that `everything computing' ambience in your home."" Warning: French. Update: 06/07 18:27 GMT by T : (Not Fremch ;))
... No wonder I can't understand a word. It's in 'Fremch'.
C'mon, you were warned.
Warning: Fremch !! Beware!!
Reminds me of the RH8.0 install, was doing one today and noticed a package that was apparently to support "Brisish English"...
I don't think that floppy disk is a high speed cdrom driver anymore.
I had a hard enough time finding one floppy to make into an Enterprise, and now I have to find another one to make an antanae. Where will the madness end?
Warning: Fremch
I'm so sick of these misspellings. It's supposed to be "Freedom" you illiterate git.
* This post brought to you by the 2003 "The Flag Sure Is Purty Act". *
--saint
Just when I throw all my old floppies away and start stocking up on Pringles Spicy Cajun cans I find out I didn't have to eat all those chips or throw away those disks. /. is just too slow at getting the news out ;-)
Saskboy's blog is good. 9 out of 10 dentists agree.
the last thing the article says is that its not going to work...
Makes me want to build my own 802.11 antenna out of an old phone, a Speak n spell, a record player, a bent fork, and some string.
From reading Slashdot, I've come to understand that there are two kinds of people in this world: those who see everything as it might relate to 802.11 antennae, and those who don't.
Perhaps the Slashdot crew have fallen for that, "Since France opposed the Iraq war, the word 'French' is obscene" stupidity. I suppose "Warning: Fremch" is better than the solution others would have used: "Warning: Freedom."
Babelfish
Hope the link works for you. Read English, right?
Saskboy's blog is good. 9 out of 10 dentists agree.
MacGyver is alive and well and living in Paris.
a world in progress...
With it already /.ed, it looks like he was serving the site with that thing...
:)
I can smell the smolding plastic and paperclips etc...
Why do they call it "frenching"? You know, "it".
This thread made me use up all my floppies, sadly.
"Perhaps the Slashdot crew have fallen for that, "Since France opposed the Iraq war, the word 'French' is obscene" stupidity. I suppose "Warning: Fremch" is better than the solution others would have used: "Warning: Freedom.""
No that's what's on the French version of Slashdot.
just add porn.
--
the strongest word is still the word "free"
"Hope the link works for you. Read English, right?"
Nope sorry. It's in Blenglish.
why they dont just get it over with and just use paperclips.
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I'm having trouble unfolding my trombones, can anybody help me?
Quid festinatio swallonis est aetherfuga inonusti?
Africus aut Europaeus?
"Mouvelles pour des merds, substance qui importe."
That folks, I kid you not, is a direct Fremch quotation from slashdot.fr.
" For more information about the locations of our Centers, just call 1-800-FLOP."
Dear Sir
I called the number you provided, and all I get is the government.
This whole 802.11 home brew stuff is pretty interesting. I live less than a mile away from a buddy of mine and have been kicking around the idea of setting up our own little wireless lan using something like this (doubt I'll be building the antenna out of floppies though).
Ran across this: Reach Out and Touch Someone. Warning: Engmish!
One of the funniest things about the aricle is him going door to door offering to pay for DSL service to get help with the expirement. Most people turned him down! Show's how paranoid and distrustfull we've become (not surprising)... And man if he'd been caught peeping around at houses with his binoculars or telescopes! The big problem I have is that it took him $1400 to get it going. Seems like it could be done way cheaper to me.
If you don't have something nice to sig, then don't sig anything at all.
Fremch is what you learn AFTER French, but you can only take it during Period 6 & 9...
If you don't have something nice to sig, then don't sig anything at all.
Wouldn't that just attract aliens?
"Sic Semper Tyrannosaurus Rex."
Fremch is to Paris what Cockney is to London. If you want to get on with a whore in Paris, you need to know Fremch.
MacGyver torrents
-Russ
Me
Actually everyone hates the French, it's just the smart ones that also hate bush. :)
Now yer talkin' about a REAL MAN'S way of buildin' it.
Sigs are bad for your health.
How to turn your linksys wap and some toothpicks into a model enterprise and Andorian antennae.
I built an aerial just like the French one in college, though somewhat larger ( 1GHz band) It was for a transmitter that used a tunnel diode (Esaki diode) as the frequency generator, and the objective was to be able to transmit audio from the tape deck in my room to the Leak amp and Quad speaker array two doors down, at a frequency which would be undetectable on any normal radio equipment. Which I guess proves that technologies come and go, but geeks just go on trying to download music.
Panurge has posted for the last time. Thanks for the positive moderations.
Communist! Only Commies have four digit 1-800 numbers!
So thats how Macgyver gets his Centrino lappy to work anywhere in the world.
It's much simpler than the Pringles can yagi, and to top that off, it delivers a much higher gain.
A bit more OT. Did you know that the Linksys WAP54G access point is based on Linux?. Somewhat strange, that there are no linux drivers for Broadcom 802.11g wireless NICs.
/Styx
A floppy and a paperclip? That must mean it has to be a Mac floppy drive.
You mean the practice of drinking bottled water instead of soda or tap water. Probably because of the immense popularity of Perrier water in the 1980s.
Warning - Freedom!
%s/Bonehead/Elected Representative/g
Using WEP is considered riding bareback. Make sure you use a VPN for protection.
That I used to make a Bong with back in High school.....back in my whacky weed days :-D
Uh oh! Looks like the Fremch webserver trade unions are demonstrating again today.
(Hint to modders: It's about foreign current events. Try Googling +france +transportation +union +demonstrations.)
Wouldn't this make all sorts of chaotic noise (read: dropped packets) in a WiFi setup?
You don't need the string.
Moderation: +4. Modded 70% Funny and 30% Overrated. 100% Saturated.
Poor Mrs. Perelli....
Ok ok. There was a typo in the article. Not
like that's ever happened before.
Should that delay us from putting up some mirrors?
NO! Please mirror the site.
Slashdot has made another victim it seems. When does 'slashdot' realize that they cannot moraly do without one.
On another offtopic note to the fremsh bashers: Please show me the weapons of mass destruction in iraq. There never were any when the war started with that excuse.
This space is intentionally staring blankly at you
As soon as you learn any version of English I might listen. "Please be learning...?" Quality.
-Looking for a job as a materials chemist or multivariat
Amen, brother.
Wait, I am French. Well, I still hate the French. Parisians, anyway.
Standing at the very edge of my imagination, I peered into the inky void and realised -- I couldn't think up a new sig.
Funny how some of the US posters here are, still, anti french. Though it was the US regime which lied about the reasons for war. France did what most of the world, still thinks, was right. Your stupid war in Iraq achieved nothing. Meanwhile many of us, internationally, are now refusing to buy US goods. I (British) will no longer buy US goods. We despair at your new McCarthyism. This will affect your economy. Nor will my mother buy US goods. And she was always completely moderate and perhaps slighlty right of centre. You people in the US need to wake up and stop believing the nonsense you read in your evil press.
Hello? Is this you, my dear mother-in-law? Oh wait, the connection gets worse. Quick, hand the phone to my wife.
Hugh Grant: This is no hooker, officer! She's an oral WiFi assistant technican and merely helps me to keep the connection up.
I'd like to see a few caps popped in those mofos more than anyone..believe me. Is anyone going to step up?
Boo-hoo, WTC.. I could care less.
Boo-hoo, WTC.. I could care less.
Which just shows you for the cretinous moron that you are.
Almost as interesting as the article itself is the fact that timothy has finally attained a 1:1 mispelled to correctly spelled word ratio. This is clearly a monumental achievement as it indicates that he is well on his way to reaching the golden ratio (1.618): the ratio at which we will find all of timothy's posts extremely attractive.
Everyone's rooting for you timothy. Don't give up.
Uttering logically derived and empirically supported truths to the disciples of the orthodox establishment.
Fucking amateurs.
(For those who missed out, "trombone" is french for "paper-clip")
-braxton
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"A witty saying proves nothing." --Voltaire
The easiest and highest-gain 802.11 antennas to build are of the waveguide + horn variety. Horns can easilly get you as much as 12-16 dB additional gain over just a waveguide (e.g. Pringles can).
For example, check out this horn build from cardboard and aluminum foil.
Yagis and other antenna element arrays are just too tough to build right, especially without a SWR meter. At 802.11 frequencies, just go horn. Save the Yagi's for lower frequencies, like 10MHz, where a horn would be nuts.
Pronounced "Sah".
"Ca" is pronounced "Kah".
Big difference.
How to make your floppy drive into a WiFi Access Point. First, put in a linux floppy distro and load... oh wait, the antenna is stuck in there...
Nevermind...
The best weapon of a dictatorship is secrecy, but the best weapon of a democracy should be the weapon of openness.
You misspelled "freedom". Hope this helps.
sub f{($f)=@_;print"$f(q{$f});";}f(q{sub f{($f)=@_;print"$f(q{$f});";}f});
The pronunciation answser of course is the "naughties"
And sign your checks 6/8/3 and what not. Might as well put 003 instead of 03 after all. or 2.003e-03 if you really want to confuse the teller.
~.~
I'm a peripheral visionary.
If I posted this in German, and you Brits and Frogs couldn't understand it... shouldn't you say "Thank you, Uncle Sam!" ?
Your stupid war in Iraq achieved nothing.
Yeah, too bad about all those Kurds, Shiites, and assorted Iraqis that Saddam and his boys won't be able to torture, rape, and murder.
France did what most of the world, still thinks, was right.
Oh, you mean accept blood money from Saddam for public pronunciations of appeasement? No, silly, that was the Englishman, whats-his-face. The French only helped to illegally transfer oil, weapons, and money for Saddam.
...oh yeah, and sell 'em a nuclear reactor at around 10 times list price. Riddle me this, Pratman, Iraq's got so much fscking oil, why do they need a breeder reactor?
I can imagine the Penfield webmaster now...
"Gee, that's odd... Mrs. Perelli's 6th period site has had over 1.5 million hits in two days... even though the site has no content whatsoever... and school is all but over..."
Good thing they don't have a message board.
"I'm still waiting for some hardcore body piercer to turn his penis into an 802.11 antenna."
Slash birth control?
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What would you do you were bored? :)
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Take the piss out of French People?
The British
The Americans
Microsoft
Go and get Drunk?
Apple Came out with Floppy Disk-less Toys (imacs) when they were bored
THIS GUY WAS JUST BORED!!
Good Idea Tho
To all you people in the top posts English
isn't the only language spoken in Britain,
Wales has its own language called Cymru I
think, Scotland In particular the west coast
has Gaelic, some smaller islands in the
outer hebrides use French and i think some
areas of Orkney and Shetland use Norweigan
Good Things from France IMHO you might not agree
Mandrake Linux (ease of use is brilliant)
Peugeot (Nice Cars)
Mylene Farmer (Beautiful Voice)
Wine (mmmmmmm)
Beer (mmm le Stella Artois)
Sum Slashdot Readers(
+1 Troll if im lucky
What would you do you were bored? Take the piss out of French People? The British The Americans :)
Microsoft
Go and get Drunk?
Apple Came out with Floppy Disk-less Toys (imacs) when they were bored
THIS GUY WAS JUST BORED!!
Good Idea Tho
To all you people in the top posts English
isn't the only language spoken in Britain,
Wales has its own language called Cymru I
think, Scotland In particular the west coast
has Gaelic, some smaller islands in the
outer hebrides use French and i think some
areas of Orkney and Shetland use Norweigan
Good Things from France IMHO you might not agree
Mandrake Linux (ease of use is brilliant)
Peugeot (Nice Cars)
Mylene Farmer (Beautiful Voice)
Wine (mmmmmmm)
Beer (mmm le Stella Artois)
Sum Slashdot Readers( :) )
+1 Troll if im lucky
Sorry to post twice forgot to login 1st time - chek my IP with AC :)
Congress shall pass a law renaming the language to "Fweedom" in reflection of the Fremch people's denial of conflict.
Funny how some of the US posters here are, still, anti french.
Not as funny as the fact that France created modern Israel. Why was that justified again?
Though it was the US regime which lied about the reasons for war.
Bush may be a lying son-of-a-bitch, and it does seem that he or his cronies distorted or falsified intel to justifiy the war (which, yes of course, had a lot to do with oil, and still more to do with cheney's halliburton getting $500M in lucrative contracts without competitive bid, etc but i digress). Britain also falsified some intel as i recall. Let he who has no sin, aw fuck it, lets stone the dumb americans!
France did what most of the world, still thinks, was right.
By taking his dramatic stance against the US position and stating that he would veto any use of military force, Chirac gauranteed a US invasion of Iraq, with or without allies (though we ended up having some). Chirac killed the diplomatic process. As such, he gave Bush the excuse he needed to attack. Good Job, Jacques. Also, it seems that to some of us in the US, that Chirac never gave a damn about right or wrong and was only trying to appease muslim extremists. Finally, many americans view the french position as somewhat of a backstab. Not that france should be our lapdog for WWII, but the extreme level they took it to combined with the social and political climate in the US has changed the name France to Mud. Summary: the average US citizen is *really* pissed off at the *way* chirac opposed the US action. Like it was their chance to kick us in the nutz, and they took it.
Your stupid war in Iraq achieved nothing.
Oh really? Nothing? have you heard of Aqaba? I personally am unsure whether the overall effects of liberating/invading/whatever Iraq will be good or bad. I do think it's clear Saddam was playing with fire; those two truck-based labs didn't fall from the sky. If the rest of the WMD exists, it's probably in Syria, Saudi Arabia, Iran, who-knows-where. If it doesn't exist, at the very least Saddam created a situation which just begged for the US to storm in and kick him out. If he didn't have WMD (big if), then he was stupid beyond forgiveness to play with the UN weapons inspectors like he did. Too bad France helped Saddam get to safety, or we might have actually gotten to the truth. Thanks, Jaqcues, for muddying the waters even more... hopefully it won't result in my country toppling any more governments in the near future. US citizens don't like the implications of what's happening, but we have been fed information to make us think there's no alternative. Not to mention, our economy can't sustain the occupation of the whole friggin world. A very small component of one party is driving most policy these days and the opponents are dismissed as "unpatriotic" or "liberal whiners". The media are lapdogs to the (illegitimate) administration.
Meanwhile many of us, internationally, are now refusing to buy US goods. I (British) will no longer buy US goods.
Can't say I'm happy to hear that you're hurting our economy, even though I agree with some of your sentiment. I have a major wake-up call for you though... There is zero, repeat zero chance of Bush losing the '04 election. Furthermore, with his his daddy and his cronies, the stance of the Bush administration is not going to change. When you think of Bush, think of Hitler. Both came to power by tricking people and using fear to strengthen their powerbase.
We despair at your new McCarthyism.
So do those of us in the US who can see what's hapening. Unfortunately we have been neatly outmanuvered. We still try to move through some paper periodicals and websites, but most americans get their worldview from the TV news, and as such, they think Bush is the greatest thing since sliced bread (because the media are working double time to make him smell like roses -its disgusting).
You people in the US need to wake up and stop believing the nonsense you read in your evil press.
The guy clearly does not understand what is he doing if he thinks the gain of antenna is 9dBi.
The page doesn't show how the coax cable is attached to folded dipole and how it is impendance matched.
Wow pretty big horn must that be.
Assuming waveguide is about 9dBi, the Horn must be 25dBi. High gain dish antennas are of that gain.