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MPAA to Launch Anti-Piracy Commercials

cfish writes "The MPAA is launching expensive 30 second TV commercials to preach about movie piracy. Featuring starving artists in the movie industry."

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  1. please don't confuse me! by sweeney37 · · Score: 5, Funny

    But wait, I saw Pirates of the Caribbean yesterday and the moral at the end was something like, "Sometimes you need a little piracy in order to do the right thing."

    But the MPAA says it's bad. Why must Hollywood send me conflicting messages?

    Mike

    1. Re:please don't confuse me! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Please report to the ministry of love immediately, you obviously have something wrong with you.

      War is peace
      Freedom is slavery
      Ignorance is strength.

    2. Re:please don't confuse me! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I didnt see it, its rated ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

    3. Re:please don't confuse me! by Elvisisdead · · Score: 5, Funny

      That's funny. I bought a copy of Pirates of the Carribean from a guy on the street last Friday. No comment on the piracy lesson there....

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    4. Re:please don't confuse me! by Elvisisdead · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I've got 1.5 DSL, thanks.

      There are 5 of us at the office that all put in for the movies. We buy them for $10 off the street and split the price at $2 each. We've got quite the library that we can take on the road/home and watch wherever we want. A)It ends up costing less than blank DVD media. B)We get new releases. C)We don't have to pay to go see the movie in the theater. (A few of the guys have kids and would rather not pay $35 for kid's movies and can't go see PG-13 or R without sending the kids to a babysitter at $10/hr.

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    5. Re:please don't confuse me! by Gherald · · Score: 4, Funny

      Oh, I see the problem now. You cheated by actually participating in a joint venture with real life people.

      I was proceeding on the assumption that everyone on /. is a loner =)

    6. Re:please don't confuse me! by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 4, Informative

      If it weren't for those nasty college kids with Kazaa, that sort of thing wouldn't...

      Wait a second...

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    7. Re:please don't confuse me! by Elvisisdead · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'll spare you the standard phrase about assuming. Not knowing your income (as you don't know ours), I can't address that topic. Just to do a little math for you, a babysitter will usually get you for about $50 + $30 dinner + $20 for the movie. That's $100 for one of the guys and his wife to go see a steaming heap like The Hulk. If you have kids (I don't), $100 buys a lot of stuff for them. It's a matter of priorities. Ours don't lie in redundant media purchases.

      In our collective opinion, it's stupid for us to buy 5 copies of 1 pirated movie when we can buy 1 and pass it around. If the movie is good, we go see it in the theater. It's worth $2 each for a preview. So, if you have a better method for previewing _entire_ movies, let's hear about it.

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    8. Re:please don't confuse me! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Don't forget the perennial favourite: Occupation is liberation

    9. Re:please don't confuse me! by Afrosheen · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hey, you stole that from Ogre Battle, didn't you?

      Everytime you conquer a town..."Liberation! yayyyyy"

    10. Re:please don't confuse me! by Nakago4 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The Ring is a remake of a japanese film called Ringu. So basically that fits his point about MPAA doing nothing but remakes and sequels.

  2. hmmm... by TrippTDF · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I wonder if they will count the costs of the commercials in the money they are loosing every year to piracy...

    1. Re:hmmm... by FauxReal · · Score: 5, Funny

      I wonder if they will count the costs of the commercials in the money they are loosing every year to piracy... You can be certain they're counting that and the hidden cost of hosting multiple "consultation sessions" in the Bahamas with their stripper/secretaries.

    2. Re:hmmm... by arcanumas · · Score: 4, Interesting

      These costs are coming out of the "starving artists". That's why they are starving.

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    3. Re:hmmm... by Creep73 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Steve: Hey bob it's about time we sent out those stats on how much money we are loosing to file sharing. Could you get me some numbers.

      Bob: No problem Steve. I figure we should have had a 25% increase in sales this year however those darn file swapers kept our increase to a modest 8%. Make sure the reported numbers reflect that.

      Bob: And Steve while you are at it. Could you take a few million of the money laying around and make a comersial about how much file swapping is hurting the industry.

      Thanks

      Steve: No Problem. I will get right on it.

    4. Re:hmmm... by Creep73 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Bob needs to give me a few bucks so I can buy myself a good spell checker. 'commercial' hrm

    5. Re:hmmm... by Creep73 · · Score: 2, Funny

      There is just nothing better than having a coward point out your mistakes for you. :)

  3. Three Things by mattrix2k · · Score: 5, Informative

    1 From the Article: Stressing the importance of copyright protection, the campaign begins with an unprecedented television "roadblock" on more than 35 network and cable outlets on the evening of July 24, with each network donating 30 seconds in the first prime time break.
    Beginning Friday, July 25, every major exhibitor in the country will donate time to play daily trailers on all screens in more than 5,000 theaters across the United States.

    Sounds like a pretty huge campaign, gonna dwarf the EFF's efforts by a big margin.

    2 Here is the website of the campaign. There's even some FUD: Network users have a back door to your hard drive while you're online, thereby seeing your personal, private information, such as bank records, social security number, etc.

    3 The article first said (in the badly edited future) it was the RIAA doing it, when it's the MPAA...I think it was a case of RIAA on the brain. :)

    1. Re:Three Things by stefanlasiewski · · Score: 5, Funny

      The nature of "peer-to-peer" file sharing sites like eDonkey, Gnutella, KaZaA, etc., open your computer to destructive viruses and worms and annoying pop-ups.
      (...)
      Network users have a back door to your hard drive while you're online, thereby seeing your personal, private information, such as bank records, social security number, etc.


      Which is why the RIAA recommends you use Open Source P2P software such as gtk-gnutella and gnucleus. Remember kids:

      "You can't hide a trojan
      when the source code is open".

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    2. Re:Three Things by fenix+down · · Score: 3, Funny
      Good lord that's a crappy site. They manage to make flash fonts more eye-grating than KDE 2, but seriously, the fuck?
      "Movies aren't the only form of Entertainment widely available on the Internet. Did you know that you can download the latest songs, play games online with a worldwide community, purchase books, the latest software and much, much more?"
      I think somebody needs to remind these people what the point of that page was supposed to be. Maybe I'll give them a call after I use this here "Internet" (as seen on TV) to go pirate me some books, games, curly fries, cole slaw, and much, much more!!!

      I think the best summary of their case is the fact that both of their examples of The Magic of Movies!!! are from the '70s. Why yes, I do remember the chills I got from Jaws. That's probably why I got so depressed after you people made a third goddamn Mummy movie. Wait, no, you put the head of a wrestler onto a giant flying scorpion. That'd reduce me to a blubbering wreck even if my viewing experience were limited to The Cable Guy, and for that matter, every goddamn movie since 1989.
  4. Easy answer by JUSTONEMORELATTE · · Score: 4, Funny

    Just don't pirate movies from the starving artists -- Stick to pirating movies from the filthy rich ones.

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    1. Re:Easy answer by mattrix2k · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yeah I think their point is that its not just the directors and actors that have to be paid...

    2. Re:Easy answer by mkldev · · Score: 4, Insightful
      What's funny is that it's the directors and actors who are the only ones who make residuals, and thus all those other people are gonna get paid whether the movie sells or not. That is, of course, unless so many movies fail to sell that they end up losing their jobs entirely.

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  5. How about the other side by Yohahn · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is somebody going to make commercials about video/DVD hardware vendors that can't make new products sell as well since they have the extra expense of DRM?

    1. Re:How about the other side by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      And have they considered that they will be giving ideas the 200,000,000 Americans who didn't even know that downloading movies was possible?

    2. Re:How about the other side by Mephie · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Or maybe a commercial about the loss of revenue by not capitalizing on technology? I know it's been said before, but I haven't seen it in response to this article, so I'll reiterate:

      If priacy is such a huge problem because it's so easy for someone to quickly and conveniently download a decent quality movie from the web, why doesn't someone slap together a business plan and create a cost based service out of exactly that?

      The RIAA may suck, but at least they're giving that a shot with a few new services they're trying out for music. Granted, most of those services suck, but it's at least a step in the right direction.

      If people are so willing to download movies all the time, why don't those fools at the MPAA simply make the movies available in a comparable environment (e.g. ease of download, quality of picture) at a reasonable price? This would be a much more constructive outlet than trying to cast all file-swappers as thieves.

    3. Re:How about the other side by jc42 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What I want to see is an ad featuring an artist explaining that he/she is starving because of the "take it or leave it" standard industry contract that they signed, which puts them in debt to the Company although the recording sold over a million copies.

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  6. Irony by chia_monkey · · Score: 3, Funny

    You no the ironic thing about all this? You just KNOW someone will copy these commercials and throw them up on Kazaa and such.

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    1. Re:Irony by Dr+Caleb · · Score: 4, Interesting
      I hope people at home spoof them and make their own 'anti-piracy' commercials and distribute them.

      Scene 1: Narrator "This is the actor that got paid $20 Million to star in this really bad movie. The movie Cost $500 Million to make, and lost $100 Million at the box office."

      Scene 2: (Cue pic of 3 people living in an alley, 2 adults, one 3 year old girl) Narrator: "This is the gaffer who worked on that movie. The studio cut him to save money on their next film. Now little Amy doesn't have a home..."

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    2. Re:Irony by protohiro1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The gaffer has a union, and can't get laid off. The correct movie would say: "here is the gaffer that worked on the movie, but the studio is producing their next film in the czech republic " The worker bees in the movie biz are really hurt by movie production moving overseas.

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  7. Can someone rip an AVI of that? by Microsift · · Score: 2, Redundant

    Since I've got TiVo, I ignore commercials, so can someone copy that to the web in some viewable format?

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    1. Re:Can someone rip an AVI of that? by professortomoe · · Score: 5, Informative

      The commericals can be viewed here. Only one up for now, but the rest will be up later I suppose.

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  8. Donating time? by jav1231 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Now that is interesting. It must be nice to get free time on the major networks for a lobbying effort. JAV

  9. Good timing... by graveyhead · · Score: 5, Informative

    The EFF has just begun a pro file-sharing. It is an awareness campaign which effectively cuts the RIAA out of the loop, called "Let The Music Play". Details here.

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    1. Re:Good timing... by Call+Me+Black+Cloud · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Pro file-sharing? That's just half the story. From your link:

      ...part of an ongoing campaign to protect the rights of people sharing music online while compensating artists

      People often forget about the compensation part...

    2. Re:Good timing... by 72beetle · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's time for the governments of our respective countries to realize we aren't pirates; We're voters. And citizens.

      Sure, until we're all convicted for felonious copyright infringement, which would then cost us our right to vote, leaving the current administration and their *AA sugardaddies in power, untouchable by anyone who disagrees with them.

      Spooky when ya look at the longterm picture, yes?

      -72

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  10. starving artist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm sure the artists are starving because people pirate movies and not becuase only the big actors and execs make money while everyone else barely scrapes by.

  11. Cool! by TopShelf · · Score: 3, Funny

    Let's hope the ads focus on those film stars most affected by video piracy: Jenna Jameson, Devon, Asia Carerra, etc.

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    1. Re:Cool! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      I would be hard to sell those gals as "starving" since they spend a considerable amount of time with their mouths full :)

    2. Re:Cool! by Alastor187 · · Score: 3, Funny

      I would be hard to sell those gals as "starving" since they spend a considerable amount of time with their mouths full :)

      I think you are right, they would probably be better portrayed in a 'Got Milk' commercial :P

  12. Starving artists?!?!? by DocStoner · · Score: 5, Interesting


    Hell, I want to see a commercial that shows starving Americans that were the result of the greedy corporations moving their jobs overseas.

    How about that to "enlighten" people?

  13. What these commercials are really telling us... by luugi · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There's a bunch of free movies out there! All you need is a computer and an internet connection!

    Now everyone will know that it's easy to get them.

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    1. Re:What these commercials are really telling us... by Sylver+Dragon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I was thinking the same thing. I hadn't really heard about Napster until the RIAA started trying to shut it down. In the same aticle, I also learned about AudioGalaxy, Morpheus, and Kazza. In a way, what they are doing is backfiring. They are not stopping copyright infringement, but they are educating people as to how to do it, and the benefits of doing it. Is the wholesale infringement right? That is a question each of us must answer ourselves, but from the number of people doing it right now, it would seem that a sizable portion of the population doesn't think so, and it might just be enough people that it will break the backs of the RIAA and MPAA.

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  14. Against Movie Piracy? by burgburgburg · · Score: 3, Funny
    But I loved "Pirates of the Caribbean"!

  15. Re:up next by gerf · · Score: 3, Insightful

    the war on piracy....it'll have the same results as the war on drugs, or the war on terrorism

    Actually, the war on piracy has been going on longer than you thought! I have a video, and there are still posters of "Don't Copy That Floppy," an effort to prevent people from copying floppy disks of games. There are still quite a few of these posters in Gov't buildings, featuring a young, rapping Arsenio Hall look-alike, a couple dumpy kids, and an Apple][ E. Google for "don't copy that floppy video" and you can probably download it somewhere.

  16. But... by El · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My local library has hundreds of movies on DVD, and thousands on VHS, that they allow anybody to view for free... does this mean that sweet little old lady at the checkout desk is a PIRATE???

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    1. Re:But... by jc42 · · Score: 4, Informative

      ... does this mean that sweet little old lady at the checkout desk is a PIRATE???

      Actually, yes, it does. One of the things that the publishing and recording industry has been discussing for years now is the growing possibility of limiting the number of readers/viewers to only the original purchaser. It's difficult to do with printed books. But anything in electronic form has a very real possibility of DRM that can implement such a limit.

      At least 10 years ago, when the first prospects of electronic publishing were reaching the media, one of the interesting quotes that I read from several sources in the publishing industry was that on the average, each book sold is read by four people. This was followed by the suggestion that they should be seriously looking at ways to solve this problem.

      Now, of the books in your home, how many have been read by four or more people? Hardly any of them, right? So where does this average of four readers come from? One place: libraries. The publishing industry does consider libraries to be a serious sales problem, and they are discussing solutions.

      This isn't only about electronic books, CDs or DVDs. Part of the discussion has been ways of using political connections to cut back on funding of public libraries.

      And a lot of publications already have a much higher subscription price for libraries than for individuals, though they don't really give the libraries anything more for their money.

      Here in the US, a lot of the small-town public libraries have closed down in the past decade.

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  17. Delusional? by cpn2000 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Ok, I'm confused. Is the MPAA/RIAA
    • Just not getting it
    • Delusional
    • Playing games (i.e. laying foundations for more legislation)
    I agree that piracy is a crime and folks who are engaging in it are making it harder for the rest of us, but honestly does the RIAA/MPAA expect that the people engaged in this are going to reform by looking at 30 second commercials?
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  18. Expensive? by suso · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yeah right, I'll bet they are getting buddy buddy with the TV networks and telling them things like "Either you're on our side, or you'll stop showing our movies." Perhaps I'm wrong. Actually, I hope that I am.

  19. Prince of Thieves by PseudoThink · · Score: 4, Funny

    A new Hollywood blockbuster starring Kevin Costner, about a lone movie pirate and his merry #movies men, who rip movies from the rich to drive click-through web site traffic to support the poor.

  20. How about the _truth_ by SuperDuG · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Show some kid going to college

    Pan out the windows of his dorm room

    Show a copy of his bank account with $32 in it

    Show you being a heartless bastard and him opening a subpoena

    Show him getting really pissed off just because you think the world owes you because you managed to rip off some recording artist.

    Show that, and I'll be impressed.

    Fuck the RIAA

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  21. Can't wait by batura · · Score: 2, Funny

    I can't wait to grab that off Kazaa and share with my friends!!

  22. Re:up next by 514x0r · · Score: 2, Funny

    hey, that sounds pretty good. could you upload it to kazaa ;)

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  23. I can picture it now... by Pollux · · Score: 2, Funny

    Two kids are sitting at a computer. They are both listening to the CD. One says to the other, "Hey, that's a real cool CD." The other says, "Say, if you have a blank CD-R, I can burn you a copy." They put the CD-R into the machine. Suddenly...

    Some black rapper reject from the PJ's jumps out onto the desktop screen and starts to rap. "Don't copy...don't copy that floppy! ...uh, I mean CD!" ...

    For anyone who doesn't get the joke, there was a video released back in 1992 by (I think) the SIAA titled "Don't copy that floppy." It is the funniest 8 minute public service announcement video you will ever seen in your life. A rapper does this rap chanting "Don't copy...don't copy that floppy" after two kids try and use a Mac to copy a "cool game" onto another floppy disk. You just have to see it to believe it. You can watch a .wma video of it at http://static.hugi.is/video/fyndin/dctf-1.wmv (dial-up user warning: it's a 15MB download).

  24. Another article link by Kaimelar · · Score: 2, Informative
    C|Net also ran an article about this -- it can be found at http://news.com.com/2100-1026_3-5051653.html

    Also, if you want the MPAA's message stright from the source, it's at http://www.respectcopyrights.org.

  25. This is Dan by Keltus · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is the AVI that Dan downloaded.

    This is the sharer who hosted the AVI that Dan downloaded.

    This is the cracker who sold ripped the AVI that the sharer hosted that Dan downloaded.

    And this is movie star who shot herself for losing the money.

    Downloading AVIs supports terrible things. If you download AVIs you might too.

    Brought to you by the MPAA

    1. Re:This is Dan by kzinti · · Score: 5, Funny

      This is the AVI that Dan downloaded.

      This is the sharer who hosted the AVI that Dan downloaded.

      This is the cracker who sold ripped the AVI that the sharer hosted that Dan downloaded.


      This is the Hollywood studio that went broke over poor ticket sales because of the AVI that Dan downloaded.

      This is the actress who can't afford to buy crack because of the movie studio that went broke because of the AVI that Dan downloaded.

      This is the crack dealer who's starving because his customers went broke because of the AVI that Dan downloaded.

      This is the drug kingpin who was assassinated because he couldn't buy guns because of the lost drug revenue because of the AVI that Dan downloaded.

      This is the Betty Ford Clinic therapist who's been laid off because of the lack of business because of the AVI that Dan downloaded.

      Dan is one influential son of a bitch.

  26. Re:Pigs! by El · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Adbusters has been trying for years to run ads telling people not to buy crap... guess how much success they've had finding a network to carry the ads? Yes, they're willing to pay full rate card prices, but so far every major network has refused to air the ads. Good luck getting ant-MPAA ads on the air! (Hint: Unless you're willing to spend more on advertising the the movie studios, which spend at least $30 million promoting every new movie, media is going to follow the money and avoid pissing off bigger customers to makes a small group of "nuts" happy.)

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  27. Jenn T by Skraig · · Score: 3, Interesting

    She has written a few articles on her
    expierence with the record companies.

    The quick clumsy summary is that they exploit the artists badly.

    She writes these days and plays in the band Loveless. I have seen them play a few times and they are great. Fun well written Pop/Rock. (I don't know exactly how to describe them)
    lvls.com has a free MP3 to download with the bands permission so people can check them out.

    A very different attitude towards file sharing!

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  28. View the Ads Online by FrEaK7782 · · Score: 2, Informative

    For those interested, you can view the commercials online. This was linked from a BBC article earlier this morning.

  29. Laughable Morality by matlantis · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think its hilarious that they want to use morality to try and persuade people to not pirate their movies. For years the entertainment industry has come out with morality killing movies, tv programs and music, now the monsters they have created couldn't care less about morality of it. I think its nice for them to have to eat it.

  30. "Their Work" by nbahi15 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Nobody is telling them that they can't attempt to make a living through acting, singing or dancing. Make your living any way you can. But if your business model fails don't cry foul.

    When you mass produce art it loses its value. Yet here is an industry that insists upon using any method possible to prop up a broken method of enrichment. So as far as I can see the problem is they don't understand that people don't value their work, and they need to adjust it if it is to be more than simply personal gratification.

  31. Good for them by 91degrees · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm pleased the MPAA is doing it this way. I really can't say that being forced to watch a few extra advertisements (Okay - I don;t live in the US, so I won't have to do that either) is going to do me a lot of harm, and if they have a case to make against piracy, they're welcome to make it, and try to convince me that downloading movies off the internet (most of which watch at the cinema anyway) is causing them great hardship.

    Personally, I think they've got a hard fight on their hands. I pay for plenty of cinema tickets and DVD purchases. They don't actually have to fork out for the movies I "steal" from them, and I make no profit from them, so I reckon they should just find a way to cope with my watching a few movies without paying, but if they have a strong enough argument, I'm willing to listen.

  32. Move over RIAA.... by felonious · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Schwartzenegger $30 million for T3
    Jim Carrey $20+ million a film
    Cameron Diaz $20+ million a film
    Mid Tier actors make around $10 million a film
    Lower Tier actors make around a few hundred thousand up to multiple millions

    The at home user might dl a divx copy of a currently released film playing at the theaters only to go see it at the theater and/or buy it when it's released on DVD.

    So the user at home spends around $9 to see the movie at the theater and another $20 to buy the DVD and the actors take many, many millions in salary to make the movie. How does this constitute taking money from the movie industry?

    Who is actually taking the money (actors/marketing) and who is supporting the industry (user/consumer)? This is a very simple question without factoring in the obscene amount spent on marketing films. We're talking 10's of millions in marketing films.

    It is not out fault that most movies these days are over budgeted and spend too much on marketing to turn a profit. This almost reminds me of the dot-com business model where they just spent to spend without having a sound business model in place.

    Don't blame the consumer for your shortsidedness and/or lack of envisioning a film's realistic chances of making money.

    This is definitely the day of scape-goating at the pc user/consumer's expense. They can get creative with the books anymore so now it's time to blame the consumer and spend money in support of the propoganda. What better way to distratct shareholders and such from realizing it's just bad business decisions and irresponsibility!

    Once again I'm still exersizing my right to boycott because I refuse to support an entity that will only try to sue me into financial ruin with the money I give them.

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  33. But... by Raul654 · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...if it stars Kevin Costner, then it has to make money, right?

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  34. That does it by Daikiki · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Says the chariman of the Fox group "We feel very strongly about the need to communicate that [. . .] illegally downloading movies is a blow to creativity"

    This fron the people responsible for the term 'foxing' a show. I think Matt Groenig, Joss Whedon, and Ben Edlund, among others, may have a thing or two to say about what exactly constitutes a blow to creativity. Hint: It's not piracy. It's Fox.

    I'm so mad I'm going to go off and dwonload a pirated copy of Daredevil and NEVER WATCH IT!

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  35. Re:If you use Kazaa... by wo1verin3 · · Score: 2, Funny

    >> ...the terrorists have already won!

    Yeah, you can bet Osama doesn't use bittorrent.

  36. This is a GOOD thing. by TomatoMan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I completely support the (MP|RI)AA doing everything they can in the court of public opinion to lobby peoples' attitudes about copying. People can talk to me all they want, as long as I can change the channel or choose not to listen - or choose TO listen and consider their views.

    Lobbying to pass laws to criminalize behavior is a whole different matter - that's the brute-force approach that leverages the State's monopoly on legal violence to achieve their aims.

    Run as many ads and try to change as many minds peacefully and through reason as you want. Appeal to peoples' higher instincts. That's perfect.

    Don't make using tools illegal.

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    1. Re:This is a GOOD thing. by Agthorr · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I disagree. This allows corporations with lots of money to have a disproportionate impact on public opinion. Their ads are not intended to be a form of discourse; they are hoping people will simply swallow their views as fact.

      I'm an avid supporter of free speech for people.

  37. About as logical by dysprosia · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...as a starving Bill Gates in an anti MS piracy ad?

  38. Good for them by RT+Alec · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Sorry to suggest an unpopular idea, but I think this is a good move on the part of the MPAA. Let's face it, copying a DVD for a friend (of copyrighted material) is illegal. It is, even if you don't want it to be. Nothing wrong with pointing that out, either in a Slashdot post or a movie theater commercial. This is America, land of free speech. They have a message they want to get out, let 'em.

    I would much prefer them to put their effort into PR rather than lobbying, anyway.

  39. Arr Matey! Amazon Women on the Moon had it first! by TWX · · Score: 5, Informative

    "Why must Hollywood send me conflicting messages?"

    you need to see Amazon Women on the Moon if you want to see really conflicting. Some "pirates" seize the MCA/Universal ship and steal the movies and video discs. It's an absolutely hilarious segment...

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  40. Here's the commercial by JustAnotherReader · · Score: 4, Funny
    Hi, I'm Blind Melon Daquari from the band "Blind Melon Daquri and the Contenental Breakfasts all star blues review" I just sold half a million CDs. But am I rich? No I'm not. And why is that? It's because of music piracy.

    I get $1.20 off of every CD I sell. With 12 songs on my CD it means every time you pirate a song it cost me 10 cents. For every hundred thousand of your downloads I lose $10,000 !

    Of course, my record company gave me an advance of $100,000 that I have to pay back. And then they made me pay for the recording studio where I recorded my own music. That was another $100,000.

    Oh wait, They also made me pay for their mid level marketers to pay that money-that-looks-like-but-isn't-really-payola to Clear Channel to get my songs on the radio. That was another $200,000. And of course I have to pay the rest of the band. Not to mention the cost of going out to tour to support this new CD.

    Oh yeah, and I don't even own my own songs any more, or my voice, or the recordings of those songs, or the cover art, or anything. In fact, my music is now legally known as "Work for hire". And if I don't like how I'm being treated I can't leave my record label without their permission.

    Oh, and the record company that sold those albums? They made about 3 million dollars of profit.

    So how am I suppose to pay off my $400,000 debt to the record company if you keep pirating my songs? So stop it. mmm-kay?

    Thank you

  41. Re:How about abolishing copyright/patents/trademar by RatBastard · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I remain one of the very few who propose this on slashdot.

    Probably because others have come to realize the unreasonable extremism of your stance. I concede that the current state of the copyright and patent systems is absurd and insane, but Ifind nothing wrong with reasonable copyrights and patents. A creator of a work, be it physical or intellectual, should be granted the exclusive rights to reap the rewards of their labor for a reasonable length of time. And while I think inventors should also be allowed a shoirt-term monopoly on their inventions, I do not think that it is reasonable in the least that someone can patent a sequence of genes that they found.

    As for trademarks, I have no problem with trademarks at all. If I create a company I want customers to have a reasonable level of assurance that when they by Dogfart brand toothpaste, that they are buying my product and not some cheap knock-off.

    The problem is not that intellectuial property is immoral. The problem is that the IP system in place in the USA right now is out of control and has been coopted by the interests of big business at everyone else's expence.

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  42. I know by Cyno · · Score: 3, Funny

    If they put these commercials right behind the FBI warning on those VHS tapes and DVDs and didn't let you fast-forward through them, I bet that would deter all those scurvy pirates.

  43. They should take a look in the mirror by diersing · · Score: 2

    For the amount of movies that have been made that are nothing more then tired rewrite sequels, retread high budget updates to movies from the past, and just flat out lack any effort from the producers/directors/writers I refuse to pay for movies in the theatre anymore. Its one thing if the industry was creating original movies with creative and insightful writing, but anymore its about franchising and draining a genre until death. Rather then spend energy, effort, and money on countering piracy - I wish they'd spead it making original and quality movies.

    1. Re:They should take a look in the mirror by LordFauntleroy · · Score: 2, Funny

      ...for you to pirate. (C'mon, you know you would...)

  44. Re:up next by wo1verin3 · · Score: 2, Informative

    http://static.hugi.is/video/fyndin/dctf-1.wmv

  45. Balance by imAck · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Okay, I'm going to get flamed for this one. Most people take an extremist viewpoint with respect to file sharing. One one hand, the MPAA and RIAA, along with their political lobby are decrying file sharing in general. On the other hand, the "information wants to be free" camp is decrying copyrights and reproduction regulations of any kind.

    I take issue with both. Sure, you may not think it's cool that the MPAA and the RIAA want to make money off of music, movies, etc; And you may even justify this opinion by saying "well, they are exploiting the poor muscisians in the first place" or "they have been found guilty of price gouging", etc. But the fact is, if the MPAA wants to educate people as to the illegality of movie piracy, on the level of principle (and within the laws of this country) they have every reason to do so given their business model in a capitalist economy.

    Don't get me wrong...I have nothing against P2P networks, file sharing, etc. Many forward-looking artists are encouraging the free flow of their music through these avenues. The notion of punishing all file-swappers because of the actions of the few, as some legislators have recommended, is assinine.

    Balance is what is needed in this argument. The extremist arguments and knee-jerk reactions from the geek community at large will only make the big media companies more worried and more interested in blanket remedies, IMHO. Likewise, the blanket remedies proposed by the big media companies and their lobby will only make the citizens want to lash out all the more.

    flame away

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  46. starving? by DuckWing · · Score: 2, Funny

    the movie industry has starving artists? Where are these people, the north pole? like give me a break.

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  47. oh no! sex and drugs! by gad_zuki! · · Score: 2, Insightful

    >with morality killing movies

    What does that mean? Because a filmmaker dares to upset the socially conservative status quo by tackling subjects like sex, drugs, violence, bigotry, etc suddenly they have no moral standing?

    Sorry but try as you might, you Christian Fundamentalists or whatever you are cannot co-op the word morality and throw it around in the use of a really bad straw man argument.

    There's a lot of things to criticize the content industries about, but the content itself should be hands off. Maybe in your world everything should be a Disney fairytale, but don't expect to be taken seriously by those of us in the real world.

    1. Re:oh no! sex and drugs! by matlantis · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Wow your right the filmmakers that make movies like American Pie really "dare" to tackle hard hitting subjects. You assume that if one filmmaker makes a movie that trys to address these subjects in a profitable way, that therefore all filmmakers must do the same thing. And if were going to talk about logical fallacies lets talk about dropping me into the category of "religious fundamentalists" to some how make my opinion less meaningful. All of a sudden if I think its detrimental to society that children are all listening to songs about raping there mothers, I am a religious fundamentalist, and my opinion has no place out of church. Postmodern culture: Everyone's ideas are right except people that don't agree that everyone's ideas are right

  48. Dont Copy That Floppy! by Nate+Fox · · Score: 2, Funny

    is it going to look like this?

    http://static.hugi.is/video/fyndin/dctf-1.wmv

  49. Re:property versus ideas by BizidyDizidy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That's your whole reply? Okay... Your problem is your view of what constitutes valuable property. What about time? When a plumber fixes your house, should he be paid. He hasn't lost anything tangible. If I spend a year formulating an idea and you take it, you've taken advantage of my time just as you have for the plumber (or lawyer, or any service profession). I don't really expect you to get anywhere with objections, because your point is untenable; however, if you keep posting nonsense, i'll keep replying.

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  50. Quote from the ad tells who's to blame by cfish · · Score: 4, Funny

    Quote from the set painter in the ad:

    "(piracy issue) well I don't believe it affects the producers. I mean it does affect them but it's miniscure to the way it affects me. ... because we are not million dollar employees, at all. We are lucky if we can put together 12 straight months..."

    So the movie producers admit they are ripping off the workers? The workers get the leftover, which is nothing.

    (Nice orange mustache, though. )

  51. I hope they have a commercial... by Sloppy · · Score: 2, Funny
    ...where a congressman explains: "When you pirate, you make it it so that the MPAA can no longer afford to hire me to sponsor and vote for legislation like DMCA and the Sonny Bono extension."

    Then cut to an assembly line worker at Sony. "My company paid the DVDCCA license fee, in order to get a piece of the DVD player market. If it weren't for useful legislation like DMCA, you would be able to buy a DVD player from just anybody. That's not fair, and it's un-American."

    Then cut to a a guy who sells timebase correctors: "When you pirate, you make it harder for the guys in LA to buy legislation that requires your equipment to implement Macrovision, the technology that keeps your video devices from displaying a bright picture on your TV when they're connected upstream from the VCR. If everyone did that and the laws were no longer funded, then nobody would buy my TBCs anymore. I would be out of a job."

    Then cut to a grave headstone that says, "R.I.P. 1937" and a voiceover: "Though I died over sixty five years ago, thanks to the Sonny Bono extension act, my life still has meaning and I have incentive to have written all my stories in the 1920s. When you pirate, you undermine the funding for the laws that makes this possible. Don't let my spirit die in 2018. Don't pirate."

    Then cut to Lars Ulrich: "As you probably guesses, The Industry is working on a successor to audio CDs as you know them. These will require proprietary licenses not just to play, but to produce as well. This will help to raise the barrier to music publishing. You don't want just any band to be able to publish music in the same format as the big labels, do you? The record companies help you, by filtering out the bad bands so that you are left with just the cream of the crop, such as my recent 'St. Anger' which all music afficionatos agree is a masterpiece. When you pirate, you undermine the format, thereby undermining this useful selection process."

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  52. A better link here by alexo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The same site has an even better link.
    Use it to make them know exactly what you feel about their "campaign".

    I suggest that you be very polite, just ask them some questions.
    Yes, you are not accusing them of anything, in fact, you'll be happy to support their cause if they just explain certain issues that you find confusing...

    Like, for example, wouldn't they agree that taking say, 5-10%, of the $30,000,000 that a single actor might get paid fro a single movie and distributing it among the poor, starving stage workers will help them much more than spending large amounts of money on dishonest advertisements?

    Oh, and by the way, when a movie makes some X millions of dollars, how much of it is distributed among the workers and how much is kept by the middlemen (the studios)?

    And one last thing, could they you how much the top 50 movies gross in 2002/2003 and what was the average stage worker salary at the time? And would they be so kind as to compare those figures to a time before the wide spread of DVD recorders and high-speed internet (say, 10 years ago?) - adjusted for the usual economy-strength indicators - just to show you what was the effect of piracy on the figures above?

    Thank you in advance, best regards, merry christmas, yadda yadda,

    Be creative!

    Then, if you do get an answer, rip it apart, exposing all its flaws and fallacies (in an extremely polite matter, of course) and ask them for better ones, because it seems to you that they are the real "pirates" in this saga.

  53. MPAA should be worried by cioxx · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The way I see it, with movie piracy, biggest losers here are non-action flicks, comedy, and romance movies.

    Personally, I cannot see how one could watch an inferior rip of Matrix Reloaded or T3 on his computer monitor or through Divx on a TV. The quality just isn't there anymore. You're not experiencing the picture and audio they way it was intended. When a studio throws hundreds of millions at some flick which has a decent plot, then $10/ticket is a no-brainer. In case of downloading the movie you are just cheating yourself.

    For dialogue based movies which do not feature explosions, sophisticated camerawork, etc it would be fair to say they will suffer more piracy than action-based ones.

    Due to this inevitable trend, studios usually have no choice but to upping the action movie production quota just to be more profitable in the box office.

    The thing that irks me with the market today is the lack of diversity (below each title it shows how many screens the movie is playing on). Every theatre features the same pictures in proximity of 20 miles from each other. (HEY! Sort of like RIAA's with music distribution). The smaller, more thought out movies are not even on the radar. Take Man on The Train for example. I live in Hollywood, CA and would have to drive 300 miles north (Merced, CA) to watch this movie. That's the closest. But finding a theatre playing Legally Blonde 2 or Bruce Almighty would be easier than finding a Starbucks around here.

    Then, we have the international opening dates sometimes several months away from each other. Hey MPAA, get a fucking clue. This isn't the 1920's anymore. When I talk to my friends in Holland, I should automatically assume they have the same roaster of movies playing at their theatres. We are connected globally nowdays. Bumping release dates of movies hurts the cause and encourages piracy.

    So in conclusion,
    music sharing = death of 1 hit/1 track wonders
    movie piracy = death of dialogue based movies.

    1. Re:MPAA should be worried by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "movie piracy = death of dialogue based movies."

      This is wrong. A good director (or, more precisely, cinematographer) can make a dialogue based movie have more powerful images than any action flick. And the precision of the details will last longer than any 'hulk'ing green marshmallows that will be rendered in real-time on the next generation of video cards.

      Just look at your own evidence:

      "I live in Hollywood, CA and would have to drive 300 miles north (Merced, CA) to watch this [non-action indie] movie."

      See? The problem isn't that you can pirate it, it's that it's easier for you to pirate it than to go and see it.

      Poor Distribution = Death of High Cinema

      (And poor distribution is caused by generally poor taste from the cinema-going public... for Regal cinema-goers, just watch the latest Fandango commercial with the paper-bag customers and realize that those things are supposed to be representing you!)

  54. Gaaaah, the irony... by Mitreya · · Score: 2, Interesting
    The amount of commercials and other crap before a movie in a theater is staggering already. Only a few years ago, there would be few previews and nothing else -- now I am forced to see 20 minutes of commercials (having paid 9 bucks for the movie!)

    This is similar to showing the unskippable FBI warning on frigging DVDs. People who pay are further annoyed, pirates do not notice this at all. Great idea!

  55. Re:The software industry tried this by korgull · · Score: 2

    A rapper that tells me not to copy a disk ? When will he draw his gun ?

    Well, about copying I can tell only one thing.
    I copy MS windows : I don't want to use it, but MS made me need it to view some particular web pages and make use of some special services. I mean if they can't standardise, why should I pay for their inability to cooperate with others.
    I find any reason why I should buy a complete OS for these few particular items that I need just a little too much to accept.

    btw, the movie plays fine using xine.

  56. I thought for sure... by daveschroeder · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...that someone would have taken the opportunity to take a jab at the MPAA and point out the error in the big splash graphic: "You're threatening the livlihood (sic) of thousands", but then I realized that it would imply that the typical Slashdot reader would

    a. have read the article, and

    b. know how to spell

  57. We already have these in Canada by freeweed · · Score: 2, Informative

    The local cable companies have been running this ad for the past few months:

    A young boy goes into a grocery/convenience store, and pockets some candy. He leaves, the shopkeeper catches him, and the next shot is the cops bringing the kid home. So Dad and Junior are having a heart-to-heart, Dad is asking "where did you learn to steal?" Junior replies: "But Dad! You steal satellite signals!".

    The commercial then cuts to a message to the effect of "theft is theft. stealing satellite signals is a crime. Sponsored by your local cable companies".

    The first time I saw this, I would have sworn it was going to be a commercial paid for by the satellite providers in Canada. Nope, looks like the cable co's are feeling the pinch of DTV piracy in Canada (arrr matey).

    Blatantly wrong propaganda such as this turns my stomach, but they sure have my parents convinced - they now are very nervous about the cryptography course I'm taking next year, because I told them I could use that knowledge to help decrpyt satellite signals.

    Nice world we live in, eh?

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  58. Starving? by BRSloth · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Featuring starving artists in the movie industry."

    Hey, We'll see Macaulay Culkin again!

  59. My Response to FUD by trueaveragejoe · · Score: 3, Informative
    Hi. As a consumer and an advocate of technology, I would like to address a few incorrect and wrong statements from http://www.respectcopyrights.org/popup/why-3.html. I would also like to explain why they are incorrect. Consider addressing them. Thank you.

    Italicized are quoted from: http://www.respectcopyrights.org/popup/why-3.html

    Have you ever had your computer crash and had to replace it or reinstall all the files due to a virus or other such problem? The nature of "peer-to-peer" file sharing sites like eDonkey, Gnutella, KaZaA, etc., open your computer to destructive viruses and worms and annoying pop-ups. Common Viruses: Apher, Benjamin, Backdoor, Duload, Fizzer, Hantner, Klez, Neuer, Nimda, Livra and Magic Eightball

    The nature of peer-to-peer is NOT to "open the computer to destructive viruses and worms and annoying pop-ups." This is a common misconception. Peer-to-peer is a tool and technlogy. Peer-to-peer is a techology that is designed to evolve the distribution channel from the traditional server-client to client(also a server)-otherclients(also servers). There are advantages since it relieves bandwidth from the server. Peer-to-peer is a useful tool of distribution especially when the distributor does not have the manpower to distribute their work. It can especially be useful for independent musicians and amateur directors who do not have the resources. Since peer-to-peer is a technology, it can also be abused. I agree with that but peer-to-peer technology offers tremendous outcome. Though in many people's minds, peer-to-peer is linked to pirating, peer-to-peer is NOT pirating. It is simply a technology. The nature of peer-to-peer is not to open the computer for viruses/popups. Though Kazaa and several other programs do include malware/spyware into their programs, they are not the total of one technology. They are only one implementaiton of a technology. Kazaa also has many legal materials and offers an efficient method of distribution. Second, Gnutella is NOT a peer-to-peer site. Gnutella is a peer-to-peer network. Programs that implement Gnutella such as Gnucleus and others are programs. There are also many Gnutella clients out there that are open source such as Gnucleus. You can inspect the code to see if there is any relation of viruses or spyware.

    You also become a distribution source for illegal downloading of movies, music and more, which makes you just as responsible if you had downloaded the movie yourself. Network users have a back door to your hard drive while you're online, thereby seeing your personal, private information, such as bank records, social security number, etc. Is the theft of your personal information worth the free movie?

    Please show evidence of this. I do not have any knowledge of this. Most file sharing programs that implement peer-to-peer technology has limited access to the hard drive (usually a specified directory). Unless the user specified to share the files related to their personal information or there are no bugs in the file sharing program, I do not understand how they have a backdoor.

  60. MPAA out of touch with reality by Temsi · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This just goes to show how completely and utterly out of touch with reality the MPAA is.

    I AM a starving artist in the film industry, and it's not because of piracy, I can tell you that much right now.
    Nobody has stolen my work. Frankly, I wouldn't mind if someone did, because at least I'd be getting exposure...

    The main reason why artists in the film industry starve, is pretty simple:
    THE STUDIOS ARE IN IT FOR THE MONEY, NOT ART.
    So, they will hire those who make the most money, not the best artists. Why else do you think Michael Bay gets to direct? It's not because he's an artist (Far from it). It's because he knows how to stage action, and action sells tickets.

    It's the same bullshit story as with the music industry. A handful of people get promoted to death so the corporation that they have a contract with can make as much money as possible in the shortest amount of time.
    In the meantime, real artists, whose appeal isn't as bland and generic (read: mainstream) are left to fight for the crumbs.

    So, these commercials do nothing to end the starvation of artists. They are primarily designed to further the wealth of the few that are already getting paid more than they're worth.
    I'd go so far as to say they have a better chance of increasing the number of people who starve.

    It's not because of piracy that movies lose money. Movies lose money if they don't have a marketing blitz promoting it. Even the biggest bombs at the box office still break even for the studios through video sales. The only movies actually LOSING money are independent features that might have something to say other than "hey look at that explosion, isn't that cool?".

    The studios are not STARVING... not by any stretch of the imagination. The ones starving, are the people the studios screw over.

    The attitude here is "we could be making more".

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  61. Greed Cloaked In Bogus Moralistic Rationalizations by reallocate · · Score: 4, Insightful

    >> ..selling albums is not the optimal way for artists to receive compensation...

    Says who? In any case, how an artist wants to make money is a matter for that artist, and no one else.

    >> Pre-recorded albums should be free promotional material and a service to the fans.

    Self-serving bunk. People can try to sell whatever they want. Your use of "should" implies a moral judgment at work. Morality has nothing to do with this. As my mother used to say, people in hell want ice water. And you just want free CD's.

    >> ...artists often forget that once the unnecessary middlemen are cut out of the picture, there is plenty of money to be made in concerts alone.

    First, it's a safe bet that every entertainer knows there's money in selling tickets to a performance. Second, what's with that "unnecessary middleman" stuff? You want someone to be a fullt-time entertainer and fly their own planes, do their own accounting, arrange their own bookings, run their own payroll, act as their own lawyers, write their own contracts, prepare their own taxes, etc.?? Without middlemen, those bands you keep referring to as "artists" would never break out of the college bar circuits.

    In general, just one more immature post trying to dress simple greed in bogus moralistic rationalizations.

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  62. I got copies of the ads for download! by Colonel+Blimp · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'll be selling the ads on DVD on the corner of Broadway and 34th tommorow morning. Ask for Vito....

  63. Re:How does Hollywood stay in Business? by godivx · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They stay in business by controlling and monopolizing the distribution channels. Take that away, and they are a worthless entity. We just need the artists to understand that. If they do, music CDs will cost $2-3, or online downloads will cost $.10 a song or less, which is what they should have been costing anyway. This is all about useless people attempting to justify their worth in an Internet-based digital economy. They will lose this war within five years.

  64. How can this be a good thing? by moncyb · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The theaters already show about 20 minutes of advertisements before each movie, and this is after I already paid to see the thing! They waste 20 minutes of my time for what, a nickel? Now they're going to add a 65 second PSA to the wasted time. Don't forget, the people going to the movie are paying customers. If they were downloading movies off of the internet instead of seeing it in the theater, they wouldn't be there.

    This makes as much sense as forcing patrons of a retail store to listen to a 65 second speech about how shoplifing is bad before they are allowed to pay the cashier.

    I go to movies for the chance I may see something insightful. They don't deliver that very well, and they want me to sit through a bunch of commercials as well. What point is there in going to a movie anymore? The entertainment cartel just wants to waste my time no matter how much I pay. I used to go to some movies because I thought the companies who made them weren't so bad. I don't see how wasting the time of paying customers would help their cause--assuming stoping copyright infringement is their real motive. Then again, I suppose if you're paying money to a MPAA company, you're an unwitting collaborator to their fascist plots. Screw them all.