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Which Adware and Spyware are the Most Insidious?

the_dreadnought asks: "I was just asked today which adware and spyware are the most insidious by an acquaintance. He asked me if this stuff was really legal, or was it just not important enough for law enforcement to deal with? I know the porn stuff (not from experience,,,ok, from experience) that dials out to foreign countries is one of the more extreme examples, and Gator is well known, but if Slashdot readers could describe what adware and spyware they think is the sneakiest I would appreciate it. Also, any thoughts on whether some of this stuff is even legal, as it is almost certainly not ethical."

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  1. New.Net by TheSpoom · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I do tech support, and one of the worst things I've seen is a piece of software called New.Net. While not technically spyware (though that's arguable), it actually overwrites parts of the user's TCP/IP stack so that any time they access the internet (not just their browser), it gets pushed through the (usually fairly buggy) New.Net DLLs.

    And the fun part is, if you (or the user) uncheck the New.Net software in MSCONFIG, it doesn't just stop New.Net from working... They simply stop being able to use the internet. At all. So then we have to pray that their version of New.Net has a working uninstaller, or we have to go through a huge manual uninstall that involves removing multiple registry keys. BTW, if anyone here gets this or other spyware that is difficult to remove, try using a program called HijackThis and "Fix" anything that looks out of the ordinary (use common sense... don't delete everything).

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    1. Re:New.Net by Jouster · · Score: 3, Interesting

      They used to offer a 5- to 10-cent "bounty" for each copy of New.Net you installed; that's why it was bundled with a lot of other programs.

      The bounty program was discontinued, however.

      Jouster

    2. Re:New.Net by shawnywany · · Score: 5, Informative

      I agree, that HijackThis program did wonders for my parents' messed up computer. Not only did the search page mysteriously get changed after every reboot, we had the misfortune of answering questions from my little sister about the porn popups the BHO caused when she accessed Neopets. However, one or two clicks with HijackThis and all was right again. Adaware and S&D don't catch everything, looks like I had to add ANOTHER program to my arsenal.

    3. Re:New.Net by caseih · · Score: 5, Informative

      The easiest way to delete New.Net is to do the following:
      1. remove it using "Add/remove" programs
      2. if still not working, remove the WinSock and WinSock2 registry keys from CurrentControlSet
      3. Go to network settings on win98 or on 2000/XP, just go into the properties of your network connection and if possible, remove tcp/ip. On XP this is impossible, so ignore this step
      4. Add new service. If you're not on XP, just reinstall tcp/ip. On XP, select "have disk" and point it at C:\windows\inf. Then select tcp/ip and install it
      5. clean up any newdotnet files lying around.
      6. Join a class-action lawsuit against the company that makes this piece of crapware.

      Be aware that these steps can cause problems with programs like cyber-sitter or firewalling programs that modify the networking stack. Do this at your own risk.

      This is very prolific. I've cleaned it on on laptop twice! I have a supsicion the user is downloading crap all the time, but I do wonder in what form it come in.

      Michael

    4. Re:New.Net by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Or you can just reset Windows XP's TCP/IP stack

      from command prompt:

      netsh [enter]
      int ip [enter]
      reset [enter]

      then reboot

    5. Re:New.Net by iamdrscience · · Score: 2, Funny
      BTW, if anyone here gets this or other spyware that is difficult to remove, try using a program called HijackThis
      Yeah, that one's pretty good, but my favorite program for dealing with invasive spyware is still fdisk!
    6. Re:New.Net by uncoveror · · Score: 3, Informative

      Have you tried Pest Patrol. It has never failed me when I want to remove spyware crap for my father, or other non-techies who ask me for help. Tweaking The winsock registry keys might work for you or me, but not for them, and they are always asking for help.

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    7. Re:New.Net by Deathlizard · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'll drink to that.

      Want to have more fun with new.net? put up a firewall on your network. New.net has problems getting through firewalls, so the internet stops working after five minutes on anything that has it installed.

      I think it pissed off half the college students off in the first day the net was up. I got 100 calls the first day saying their internet wasn't working, then when I asked if they had (Insert piece of crap P2P app here), they would always say yes. Gee, I wonder why it doesn't work now.

      Maybe if people would quit downloading spyware laced crap and clicking yes on anything IE wants to install my small realm of hell would be a better place.

    8. Re:New.Net by TaoJones · · Score: 5, Funny
      The easiest way to delete New.Net is to do the following:
      1. remove it using "Add/remove" programs
      2. if still not working, remove the WinSock and WinSock2 registry keys from CurrentControlSet


      This is the "easiest" way? Slow down there Turbo... Now, over the phone, YOU try to talk my mother through this "easy" way. Believe me, I'll Make Money Fast selling you a couple of Valium when (and if) you ever get the job done ;)

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    9. Re:New.Net by Professor+Bluebird · · Score: 2, Informative
      And new.net even works on *nix! Installation instructions (from http://www.new.net/download/instructions_unix.tp):
      Edit the following file: /etc/resolv.conf.

      In this file, look for the line that starts with "search," and add "new.net" to the end of the line. Thus if the resolv.conf file currently reads like this:

      search example.com
      nameserver 1.2.3.4

      You should change it, so that it now reads:

      search example.com new.net
      nameserver 1.2.3.4

      If there is no "search" line in the file, but there is a "domain" line, then replace "domain" with "search" and then add the new.net as above.

      Your Linux/Unix machine should now resolve and enable your web browser to see the new domains.

      Though I don't think that 1.2.3.4 is really a nameserver though.
    10. Re:New.Net by CrazyDuke · · Score: 3, Informative

      My vote goes to a program that is not quite as popular, but is similarly damaging called OSSproxy. Basically if you have the misfortune of deleting it, your system 's DNS resolution is hosed until you reinstall Windows. You can uncheck it in startup, but like New.Net, you can't DNS anything. Oh, did I mention it does not come with any (obvious) uninstall?

      I usually run across this when a customer complains that since they switched off dialup to broadband, they can't access the net. Apparently, there is some screw up within the program that keeps people that switch net connections from DNSing.

      You can bitch at the company and they'll send you a buggy ass uninstall program (which really helps if you already lost your net connectivity :P ...not). But, the only way I've been able to remove it is using the following. Oh, but you have to not have deleted any part of it yet in order for it to work.

      "%WinDir%\System\NScheck.exe" /uninstall

      Then just clean up any garbage left behind.

      P.S. Looking up on it, it looks like some people have found out how to can the sucker if it was already deleted. Still a pain in the ass though.

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    11. Re:New.Net by TheQuantumShift · · Score: 4, Informative

      or run them all together as MSN tech support is trained to do... "netsh int ip reset resetlog.txt" That along with "regsvr32 softpub.dll" and "regsvr32 wintrust.dll" will fix 99% of MSN problems. That and Referring to OEM...

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    12. Re:New.Net by Tim+C · · Score: 2, Informative

      Isnt netsh a resource kit binary?

      Apparently not - I've not installed the resource kit on this machine (which is running XP Pro), but I definitely have netsh available.

    13. Re:New.Net by mikeswi · · Score: 2, Interesting

      New.Net is not spyware, although it is commonly believed that it is because it is targeted by antispyware software. The closest appropriate term would be "Unsolicited Commercial Software" or perhaps "Foistware" because it comes bundled with unrelated software. It does no tracking of the user and doesnt' even display advertisements.

      As for removing it, they took a lot of shit a couple of years ago because their uninstaller didn't work, so they fixed it. It works perfectly from add/remove and this has been verified by myself and by other members of our message board. If it doesn't for some reason, official and accurate manual instructions are located at http://www.newdotnet.com/#remove

      Please do not use HijackThis to remove any part of New.Net. It is a powerful tool, but it is not an antispyware program and not designed to uninstall software. It's purpose is to list anything that is not a default setting so that we can track down brand new spyware. If you don't know for an absolute fact that an entry absolutely should go, leave it and ask for advice first. You can hose Windows pretty good if you are not careful.

    14. Re:New.Net by zcat_NZ · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The problem with most spyware is that if you simply remove it, the software that installed it will also stop working. When the user notices this they will reinstall the software.

      You need to find out what the user installed that contained spyware and make sure that software still works or replace it with a non-spyware equivalent. Then make sure the client is happy with the new software, understands why you changed it, and knows why they should NOT reinstall the original software.

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    15. Re:New.Net by MrHanky · · Score: 2, Funny

      That's a great tip! Thanks. You're going on my friends list, Mr. Anonymous Coward!

    16. Re:New.Net by AlphaSys · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Then you don't know how to configure windows. Not only do I browse with IE, my wife and son (9) do so on my workstation as well. My son definitely visits a place or two where adware is pushed and I never have an adware problem. I run AdAware and SpyBot and HijackThis occasionally to verify that things are clean. Every now and then they might turn up something minor (tracking cookies, etc.), but it's pretty rare.

      Note... I'm not bashing Moz, Opera etc. As far as I can tell, they're fine browsers. I especially like Moz because CSS2/XHTML behaves the way you expect it to in Moz, which is something I surely can't say for IE.

      But the point is, you *can* configure IE even without using third-party monitors and blockers in such a way that this crap doesn't get on your PC. Just because you haven't done it doesn't mean it can't be done..

      Also, don't think you're immune just because you don't browse with IE. More adware gets installed by piggybacking on cheap shareware/freeware than just about any other way. So just because you don't use IE doesn't mean you're clean. Riddle me this... If you've never run Adaware/SpyBot/HJT, how do you *know* you don't need some cleanup?. If you are clean, that's fantastic, but reasoning that you don't need it without checking it out is kinda PHB-like.

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    17. Re:New.Net by lamabile · · Score: 2, Interesting

      ".....it actually overwrites parts of the user's TCP/IP stack"

      Our software does NOT overwrite the TCP/IP stack; it adds itself to the TCP/IP stack.

      ".....so that any time they access the internet (not just their browser), it gets pushed through the (usually fairly buggy) New.Net DLLs."

      This information is false. Internet access is NOT pushed through our software. Our software recognizes when the user is trying to access a New.net domain name extension and ONLY then does it route the user through our software.

      "And the fun part is, if you (or the user) uncheck the New.Net software in MSCONFIG, it doesn't just stop New.Net from working...They simply stop being able to use the internet."

      I'm not sure where you thought that using MSCONFIG would stop our software from working. The RUN registry entry that you are referring to, does not affect the fucntionality of the software. That registry entry is used to update the software. Disabling this registry entry will NOT disable Internet access but it will prevent our software from updating.

      "So then we have to pray that their version of New.Net has a working uninstaller,"

      All of the versions of our software came with a working uninstaller. However, some uninstallers were rendered useless once a "tech support rep" started to use unconventional and unsupported methods of removing our software.

      "....or we have to go through a huge manual uninstall that involves removing multiple registry keys."

      There is no need to use any such manual removal procedures to remove our software. Proper removal instructions and accurate information about our software can be found at http://www.newdotnet.com.

      Leonard Amabile
      Director of Customer Support
      New.net, Inc.

  2. IMHO the worst one was........ by i_want_you_to_throw_ · · Score: 4, Informative

    Xupiter! Or what used to be Xupiter. In it's time it really wreaked havoc. Although going to their home page says they are out of business, ths link on their site shows that they may be up to something else soon

    You can share some of the love for the Yomtobians here. These guys are right up there with Spamford Wallace and the Cantor/Siegel in the Internet Hall of Shame.

  3. RealOne by JanusFury · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm sure there aren't many people who agree with me, but I personally consider RealOne to be spyware. It's intrusive and has lots of 'features' that are extremely difficult to turn off if you can turn them off at all, and it installs things without telling you. (For example, its 'message center' in the system tray that tells you to Buy RealNetworks Products(tm)(r)!0

    Other than that, I don't really run into spyware much, but I find gator and its kin to be the most intrusive and common on the web.

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    1. Re:RealOne by shird · · Score: 2, Interesting

      for the record, I agree with you. It completely overtakes your system, replacing home pages etc. Even the media has support for causing popups with its 'media browser' or whatever they call it.

      They used to also have a screen which allowed you to sign up for newsletters.The first checkboxes would all be clear, but scroll down a bit to the ones hidden and they would all be checked!... Its some of the scummiest software I have ever seen, and unfortuantly there is no other player which plays their media.

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    2. Re:RealOne by galacticdruid · · Score: 2, Informative

      Ya - no kidding. I hate realplayer. Every time I set my mpgs to load in windows media player, 10 seconds later some kind of dll that always runs sets my file associations back to realplayer. lame!

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    3. Re:RealOne by questionlp · · Score: 2, Informative

      Depending on which version of Real Player you are using, I'm using 8, you can go into the application's preferences and tell it to disable the Real icon in the systray and not to hijack the associations for other supported media types (in 8's preference dialog and under the Upgrade tab, click on "Auto Restore Settings" and uncheck anything that's checked).

      I did that during the setup and after it was running and haven't had that problem since. I haven't touched RealOne, so I don't know where they would hide that stuff. Else, go to the Registry and remove their systray app from running.

    4. Re:RealOne by desenz · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You hit that one on the head. I don't get much other spyware, because its usually easy to avoid (as long as you know what not to download, and aren't using IE) I don't think its even worth usuing Real to begin with. Qualitys not that great, and if you've got the bandwidth quicktime is a far better choice in my eyes.

      That said, not everyone has the bandwidth or time to spend on it. And some just don't care.

    5. Re:RealOne by CaptBubba · · Score: 5, Informative
      "unfortuantly there is no other player which plays their media"

      There is Real Alternative. I'm not sure how legal it is, but it plays the files and I don't have to install the RealOne crap. Until I found it I simply didn't use any sites that relied upon realplayer files. I was so happy when Amazon.com added WMP samples.

    6. Re:RealOne by owlmon · · Score: 2, Interesting

      > Its some of the scummiest software I have ever
      > seen, and unfortuantly there is no other player
      > which plays their media.

      JetAudio plays Real Media. I like it, and I don't think that it is spyware. Would someone please post if I am wrong!

    7. Re:RealOne by chgros · · Score: 2, Interesting

      quicktime is a far better choice in my eyes
      Except that the quicktime player is not much better than Real Player IIRC (with popups telling you to go "pro" or somesuch).
      Anyway along with Real Alternative goes Quicktime Alternative, but I haven't had much luck with these (I haven't tried a lot though, since I mainly use GNU/Linux)

    8. Re:RealOne by OYAHHH · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm,

      Not sure if StartupMonitor will stop Real in it's tracks, at least in terms of dropping things in your startup/system tray, but it is definitely worth a look.

      StartupMonitor just sits around and waits for a program to try to install itself into your system tray. If it detects such activity it pops up a message asking you if you want to allow it.

      I can proudly state that I only have four icons in my startup tray and each and every one of them I want to be there.

      Google for StartupMonitor and you shall receive...

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    9. Re:RealOne by desenz · · Score: 2, Informative

      The real difference though, is that quicktime only tells you to 'go pro' when you use it. In windows, realplayer keeps a process going called realsched. Its only 128k so you don't really notice it, but its there to let you know about all your upgrade options.

    10. Re:RealOne by tarquin_fim_bim · · Score: 3, Informative

      unfortuantly there is no other player which plays their media

      mplayer!

    11. Re:RealOne by DrEldarion · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yeah, but that still doesn't take care of the fact that the software is crap. Back when I had Windows 2000 installed, the only time I got a blue screen was when I was using realplayer.

    12. Re:RealOne by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That hide feature on the bar is so deceptive.

      I -like you, disable it from every machine I clean up.
      Kazaa continues to run for the user that installed it, and all the other things - realplayer, winamp etc are all common and not required. People wonder why their machines take so long booting with all the crap its loading.
      At least if they can *SEE* that something is running they can make a concious decision to close it.
      The Search bars from various places are becoming a pain in the rear at the moment. My final action is usually disabling 3rd Party browser enhancements.

      My personal pet-peeve is with so called Popup-stoppers. I have seen some which popup a message to tell you they have blocked a popup.
      Its totally insane!

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    13. Re:RealOne by anagama · · Score: 2, Interesting


      Don't forget Xine. It plays most of real media stuff (FAQ).

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    14. Re:RealOne by Andy+Smith · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I agree with you on two counts...

      1. Last week I used RealOne's "check for updates" feature and it said there was a patch available so I told it to update. The update consisted of a full reinstallation, during which I had to give all of my details again and reset all of my settings and preferences to how they were before. Nice.

      2. On my WinXP system, RealOne changes the "start navigation" setting in my sound scheme. (This is the sound that is played when, for example, you open a folder in Explorer. It's usually a click.) Worse, it doesn't just change the current scheme, it changes the *saved* scheme. For some reason it just doesn't want me to have a "start navigation" sound. It wants silence and it does everything it can to get it!

      I use RealOne to listen to audio on the BBC's web site, mainly plays and comedy. Last week I contacted Real's customer support and asked (a) why it changes my sound scheme and (b) how can I stop it. Thankfully they wrote back and told me to simply... oh, hang on, no, they just ignored me.

      However, I'm going to go out on a moral limb here and say that I don't feel much anger towards Real. But I *do* feel anger towards the BBC because they only make their audio available in a proprietary format which, in practical terms for most users, can only be used with Real's own software. The way I see it, I pay my license fee and I should be able to use the BBC's services without installing a piece of software that I don't like and don't want, made by a company with questionable ethics and poor customer service. The BBC should not be pushing their listeners/viewers towards a company like that.

    15. Re:RealOne by shepd · · Score: 2, Insightful

      >At least it's an attractive interface, as opposed to Real's jumble'o'buttons...

      LOL!

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    16. Re:RealOne by gcaseye6677 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The worst part is, people actually pay money to the scumbags at Real Networks for an 'enhanced' version of the software. These scumbags are, in my opinion, the inventors of spyware. They just didn't make it quite as annoying and virus like as Xupiter or Gator.

    17. Re:RealOne by Bert64 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I use the "rm" command with "rm" files under any flavor of unix, rm really is the best way to deal with low quality realmedia files anyway.

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    18. Re:RealOne by Raunch · · Score: 3, Informative

      > there is no other player which plays their media

      Whatever you feel of their supposed code nazi attitudes; mplayer plays almost everything.

      Don't hate the player, hate the game.
      I don't have a sig.

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    19. Re:RealOne by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 2, Funny

      I DO disagree with EVERY frickin app wanting to park itself in the tray.

      I went to a bioinformatics conference a few months ago. These biologists would come up and plug their laptops into the projector so they could do their Powerpoint presentations. And it was amazing. ALL of them had tray icons spanning more than halfway across the screen! I completely stopped paying attention to one guy- it was more interesting to count how many spyware icons I could recognize in his tray. And they kept apologizing to the audience because their laptops were slow!

    20. Re:RealOne by cicho · · Score: 3, Informative
      Correction. StartupMonitor doesn't look for systray apps. Rather, it intercepts any attempt by an application to add itself to autostart folder or a registry entry, so that the application will run automatically at startup.


      But you can't use it indiscriminately. Most setup programs for example will add a run-once entry to delete temp files or files that were in use and couldn't be replaced - this is something you want to allow. But the same setup program may also be installing fishy stuff, so you need to be able to tell the difference.

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    21. Re:RealOne by ViolentGreen · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Speaking of spyware and weather programs, every weather program I have ever seen installs spyware. You might want to doublecheck yours.

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  4. A more interesting question might be: by tarquin_fim_bim · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Should the purveyors of operating systems be prosecuted for allowing software to run on their loyal customers computers, without their knowledge or permission. I have never read a Microsoft EULA in it's entirety, does it mention that this is part of the agreement?

  5. Windows = Spyware by Deltan · · Score: 2, Funny

    Windows likes to call home whenever it can. I'm sure it reports back to the mothership far more often than anyone would like to think about.

    *synches the strap on his tin foil hat a bit tighter*

  6. One word...GATOR by bluethundr · · Score: 5, Insightful



    Without any doubt in my mind, the most evil form of spyware I am personally aware of is the infamous insidious Gator. Booo, hisss!!!! I am sure there are others, but I'm sure of this: there is a special place in hell for these folks.

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    1. Re:One word...GATOR by bhtooefr · · Score: 4, Informative

      Google Toolbar doesn't count, because it is a VOLUNTARY move to enable the spying features (default is to disable them, they give you a nice short EULA that tells you they'll get some info from you if you enable PageRank). Gator and the more insiduous MemoryBlaster (or something like that - it's a taskbar icon that shows you percent free RAM, and takes up about 50% of RAM on a 128MB box with XP itself) count. Taking into account that someone could be blindly clicking links, one could VERY easily get the whole GAIN suite in a few seconds. (BTW, there are MUCH nicer alternatives to those - I've heard RoboForm isn't spyware, and can even import your Gator data if you did once use it, Date Manager? double click on the clock! (oh wait, roblimo can't figure that out) PrecisionTime? ArgoSoft Time Synchronizer is what I use - good ol' fashioned freeware)

    2. Re:One word...GATOR by H310iSe · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I need help with Gator! One of my clients is hooked on it - it has, literally, hundreds of his passwords for god knows what websites, and he can't function without it. I know you can export and import the password file (as I had to do when I rebuilt his PC, god it pained me to install gator on a PC) but is there any way to extract the URL/Login/Password combinations? I spent a little time looking on Google but found nothing. Any help is welcome.

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    3. Re:One word...GATOR by DeadMeat+(TM) · · Score: 4, Informative
      Roboform is your friend. It can import Gator passwords and then export them to HTML for printing (or parsing with your favorite scripting language).

      It's recommended as Pricelessware by alt.comp.freeware, which means no nasty spyware or adware.

    4. Re:One word...GATOR by jesser · · Score: 3, Informative

      You can extract passwords from Gator (or any browser's password manager) one at a time with the "view passwords" bookmarklet. Be sure to tell your client that vanilla IE (new versions) and Mozilla Firebird have built-in password remembering, so he won't have to type his passwords each time after he gets rid of Gator.

      There are also some password managers that can import from Gator. Roboform is an example. I don't know if I trust any of them, though.

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  7. Windows Spyware Removal by Davak · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here are the removal programs...
    Spybot
    Adware

    However, this begs the more interesting questions....

    Is there *nix spyware?
    Why not?

    Davak

    1. Re:Windows Spyware Removal by MikeXpop · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why not?

      Because *nix isn't nearly as widely used as a desktop OS as Windows is, and the ones using it are generally more computer-savvy.

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    2. Re:Windows Spyware Removal by itsari · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Is there *nix spyware?
      Why not?


      Just give me a minute...

      Just kidding. But I haven't seen any spyware for Mac OS and such, either. There's no unix spyware probably because computer savvy induviduals who get freakishly pissed-off by spyware isn't the target demographic these companies are looking for. That and *nix users make up, what, 0.5% of the internet community.

    3. Re:Windows Spyware Removal by mwilliamson · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There won't be much *NIX spyware simply because *NIX users are typically smarter, won't tolerate spy/ad/mal/scum/gator-ware, and are a lot more security conscious than the typical win-drones.

    4. Re:Windows Spyware Removal by MeanE · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Is there *nix spyware?
      Why not?"

      Because *nix users are already subscribed to porn sites.

    5. Re:Windows Spyware Removal by mcpkaaos · · Score: 3, Funny

      Simple. There is no adware for Linux as companies know that we don't have any money. Isn't that why we use it?

      (Easy there mods, don't let the sarcasm fool ya.)

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    6. Re:Windows Spyware Removal by martyros · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Is there *nix spyware?
      Why not?
      A bunch of reasons already mentioned, but also diversity of platforms. As long as most Unix users are super-choice people (use Mozilla, Galleon, Firebird, Konqueror, whatever), and as long as distributions and configurations abound (RedHat, Gentoo, Debian, Mandrake) it's going to be pretty tough to get spyware that hijacks enough applications to be worth any money to the spies.

      OTOH, if one distribution or configuration takes over, and becomes popular, you can bet there will be programs there... someone suggested the possibility of adding things to .bashrc or .profile, those are pretty standard tools...

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  8. Weatherbug by grumm3t · · Score: 2, Informative

    That darn weatherbug thing that everyone I know has. You try to uninstall it but it manages to find a way back in :-/

    1. Re:Weatherbug by bivaughn · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Weatherbug generates massive amounts of fragmented TCP traffic, frustrating Intrusion Detection Sensor administrators everywhere.

  9. Weird Comparison by serutan · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If somebody leaves a paper bag full of shit on your porch, rings the doorbell and runs away, does it really make any difference whether it's dog shit or cat shit?

    1. Re:Weird Comparison by sTalking_Goat · · Score: 2, Informative

      cat shit has a wierd sharp afterodor that dogshit doesn't. I've found its realitively easy to get rid of dogshit odor quickly it pretty much localizes. cat shit odor on the other hand travels and adheres to stuff. You have to Febreve the fuck out of everything to get rid of it, and it never truly does completely leave...

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      My days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle...

  10. Windows Media Player... by penguinrenegade · · Score: 4, Interesting

    gets my vote. Not only does it report your media files, but also any other apps you're running!

    /me adjusts tinfoil hat...

  11. Lop.com by DJ+Rubbie · · Score: 5, Informative

    Lop is by far the worse one ever... recently I convinced my cousin to switch over to Mozilla Firebird, but this article (http://www.spywareinfo.com/articles/lop/) suggested that Mozilla isn't 100% safe, but is much easier to cure than hacking the registry (apparently it's just one line in the user_prefs). One sources said that it changes 47 registry keys... I also found that it randomly mutates into new filenames (actually it downloads newer versions), making it much harder for programs like Adaware to hunt it down.

    Also, Lop disguises itself as a mp3 search toolbar. It also comes with newer versions of MSN Plus.

    One more thing, some people are willing to profit from lop uninstaller, such as this one - http://www.onlinepcfix.com/spyware/Lop.htm - it contains some more information related to lop.

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    Please direct all bug reports to /dev/null
  12. hotbar by a.koepke · · Score: 5, Interesting

    One program that really annoys me is hotbar. The main reason so, it adjusts your MS Outlook settings all the time turning off using Word as your HTML editor. It also requires about 2 hours to remove the stupid program.

    You remove it using AdAware and it will remove it for that user profile. Then login as another user it will actually install itself again. I logged on as each user to remove it and finally managed to get rid of it, so I thought. It has now appeared back and I know it wasnt the (l)users installing it again since I gave them a lecture about adware and installing crap on machines that I am in charge of.

    If a program comes with a valid uninstall feature then I can tolerate it. When its a program thats a biatch to get rid of and keeps coming back I get really ticked off.

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    1. Re:hotbar by Dunark · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The company I work for has officially designated Hotbar as a "security risk", and has put a Hotbar remover utiity on their desktop support website.

  13. Xupiter is evil? Agreed 100% by redgopher · · Score: 2, Interesting

    DEAR GOD! My stomach turns every time that name is mentioned. I worked as a CSR at a local ISP for a year or so, and every time Xupiter was mentioned, nearly all of the employees within earshot would mutter, "Aw, jeez" or something else to that effect.

    On another note, I think that Gamespot's download manager, Kontiki, is kind of sneaky.. at least sneaky in the fact that I thought it was just another humble download manager. Then again, why would anyone want you to have their download manager unless they were spying on you?

    Stupid me. Oh well... thank god for Ad-aware.

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  14. a musical analogy by Savatte · · Score: 5, Funny

    which Creed album is the worst?

    1. Re:a musical analogy by mmdurrant · · Score: 2, Funny

      The worst Creed album is definitely the first one, the one with that "Jeremy" song.

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  15. Pre-Installed Dell Software by Jouster · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How about Dell's SupportLink, which (and I have the TCPdumps to prove this) broadcasts your system's S/N, your MS Windows S/N, and several other tantalyzing bits of data back to Dell every 30 minutes or so?

    Mind you, I love my Dell, but this pissed me off.

    Jouster

    1. Re:Pre-Installed Dell Software by 1010011010 · · Score: 2, Informative

      http://www.macopinion.com/columns/macskeptic/00/11 /21/

      MacOS 9 made a call to Gilligan's Island and tried to send some information to its little buddy at littlebuddy.apple.com. This was supposed to be a one time event at the end of the install process - but of course, Apple, forgetting that not everyone on the planet has 24/7 high-speed internet to their homes, created a situation where if it fails (ie: God forbid, you're not connected to the internet while installing MacOS 9), it repeatedly tries to get through. This first surfaced because someone noticed that their Mac was trying to make a net connection when nothing was supposed to be doing that.

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      Napster-to-go says "Fill and refill your compatible MP3 player", which is a lie. It's not MP3. It's WMA with DRM.
    2. Re:Pre-Installed Dell Software by chrispl · · Score: 2

      What is the exact process name? I looked up everything thats running (and in the run part of the registry) and didnt find "support link" or anything else overly suspicious.

      Then again I bought my dell laptop in germany and we have "personal data protection" laws that would probably make what you are describing illegal.

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  16. pr0n dialers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    when I worked at v!v!d V1deo, the boss loved the idea of the sneaky pr0n dialers the submitter talked about. (You click on a link that says "Free hot videos!" or whatever, and you get an active-x control which then downloads and installs a windows component and puts the icon on your desktop. Then when you doubleclick that, it actually hangs up your modem and dials out to a foreign country that has INSANE rates, several dollars a minute. Your phone bill can reach into the hundreds very quickly, and the phone company doesn't give a crap, you gotta pay if you want to keep using your phone!)

    Of course old steve's house is probably burning down today, as the simi valley fire has spread into the hills above chattsworth.

    Endorsing pr0n dialers will lead to your house burning down. QED.

  17. Redsheriff is the one I find particularly annoying by kevinatilusa · · Score: 2, Informative

    Not necessarily through the damage it does, but through the sheer number of times I have to get rid of it. Even though I use adaware and block cookies, it still manages to get itself in through a back door (I think it runs as a java applet, which then installs a cookie).

    It doesn't do anything particularly nasty (other then send tracking data out), but I find it hard to block and its used by quite a few sites that I visit often (BBC, for example).

  18. SaveNow by pavera · · Score: 4, Informative

    The worst program I've ever seen is savenow..
    It starts like 5 processes on boot (using between 50-75mb of ram and 20-25% cpu), sends all of your browsing habits somewhere else, and pops up porn, and other various ads randomly while using the computer. It is by far the worst spy/ad ware I've ever seen.

    1. Re:SaveNow by HaggiZ · · Score: 2, Funny

      it pops up porn? Hhrrmm.... where do I download this thing from again?

  19. Gator, Xupiter, and more! by ShadowKatmandu · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Xupiter is a personal demon for me, but Gator is up there as well. Not to mention the uncountable number of little toolbars that install themselves without warning into IE. There was one some time back, I think it was called Bargains or Bargain.com or something like that which was terribly annoying. It was one of those that hijacks your browser and pops up ads whether the page you're on has ads or not.

    Personally, I consider spy/adware more annoying than most viruses...

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    --ShadowKatmandu
    "It only takes one true believer to make a thing real..."
  20. I agree with you by sweatyboatman · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I don't use RealPlayer at all. If for some reason a website offers only RealPlayer videos I just do without. not a big deal for me. much more annoying, as you say, to remove the tentacles of Real after you've installed their "free" player.

    -sweatyb

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    It breaks my pluginses, my precious!
    1. Re:I agree with you by shogun · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If you want to play Real Player movies under windows without the crap, just install it, then associated the files with Media Player Classic a neat little player that looks just like ole Media Player 6.x. (It also handles quicktime movies in a similiar fashion)

  21. Spyware that launches multiple processes by TheOtherAgentM · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I don't know the name of the specific spyware, but one of my clients had spyware that would have two processes running at a time. If you terminated one of the processes, a new one would pop up, probably created by the other one. The process names were also random characters, meaning you couldn't just stop certain processes from startup. I did end up using WinPatrol, which is a lifesaver. It's able to look at services, processes, and startup items. It gives more information than just the names and is useful is stopping active processes and startup items.

  22. Most Filesharing software like iMesh and KaZaAaAaA by dustwun · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Most of the filesharing software people are so eager to defend often install a who's who of spyware/adware today. For an interesting little test, take a clean windows system (no jokes) and install your iMesh kazaa, grokster or any other filesharing program. Then run adaware or spybot against it. You'll see new.net, shop-at-home select agent, gator, and many other nasty little goodies. File-sharing programs running on windows claim to be fighting for user/'fair use' rights, when they are simply fighting for their bottom line as a company. The fun part is that for nearly all of them, if you remove the spyware/adware the programs cease to function. Just my $0.02

  23. Business plan by Chuck+Chunder · · Score: 5, Funny

    1. Ask Slashdot what sort of spyware is the worst. 2. Make this sort of spyware. 3. Profit!

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  24. Worst Adware Revealed! by missing000 · · Score: 4, Funny

    With absolute certainty, the worst adware is the threadjack /. post

    Especially evil is the sig line advertisement.

  25. *n?x lacks residential mindshare by yerricde · · Score: 2, Insightful

    owever, this begs the more interesting questions....

    "Raises", not "begs".

    Anyway, there are a few reasons why there isn't any adware designed specifically to run on popular desktop *n?x systems. For one thing, there's no well-known ActiveX equivalent that lets a script on a visited web page download code and run it with the logged in user's full privileges. But the major difference is that no desktop *n?x system, not even Mac OS X, has nearly as much mindshare in residences as Microsoft Windows, so development efforts directed at Win32 have bigger results than development efforts directed at LSB or Carbon APIs. Businesses don't count because they can more strictly regulate what can be installed on a workstation, possibly through bigger budgets for licensing proprietary HTTP proxy software.

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  26. I'll never know the name. by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I didn't think that spyware existed on MacOS X, but... my girlfriend came home from school last winter with something really odd. Internet Explorer would, no matter your user preferences, always go to a certain internet shopping site as a homepage. And would give you a barrage of popups constantly. I forget what shopping site, and back then I only had inbound firewalling, so I had no logs to check.

    No toolbars installed. No plugins. I created a new user account for her, and that worked, so apparently it hadn't messed with the internals of the Internet Explorer.app (which seems like a vector they'll soon exploit). Crappy, though.

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    1. Re:I'll never know the name. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      I don't know if you checked this or not, but the problem may have been rather benign. The start page for Explorer, or most other web browsers, can be set in two places: in the application directly, or in the System Preferences. If the start page is set in the system preferences, and Explorer tries to use the system start page, changing the Explorer start page may have no effect. Explorer on OS X also had a problem not correctly updating some preference files under some circumstances, and settings changes sometimes didn't take effect. (Entourage also had this problem.)

      Either of these, or a combination, could have caused this problem.

    2. Re:I'll never know the name. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      my girlfriend came home from school last winter with something really odd.

      Two weeks of penicillan should clear that up.

    3. Re:I'll never know the name. by babbage · · Score: 2, Informative
      Safari on the mac still can't even handle forms right. try tabbing to a drop down box and see what happens.
      Actually, the "can't tab to all form elements" issue is a known one, and, according to David Hyatt, the primary developer of WebCore for Safari, a fix seems to be on the way:

      And in case you're curious, here's what we've already got working post 1.1 in WebCore that you can look forward to:

      (1) Support for the title attribute using tooltips

      (2) The ability to tab to all controls in a Web page and to manipulate them from the keyboard.

      (3) Support for table border collapsing.

      (4) Support for the CSS cursor property.

      ... and a whole lot more ...

      So all we need now seems to be the Safari 1.2 release. The only question is when that will be...

  27. how to disable the 'message center' by JAYOYAYOYAYO · · Score: 2, Informative

    search your hdd for 'realsched', dont delete it (else it will automagically be reinstalled), just change the name to realsched.old or something. viola, no more message center system tray popups!

  28. kazaa by ComputerizedYoga · · Score: 2, Informative

    kazaa and everything it bundles with it are my collective vote.

    I used to work tech support, where half the problems people had using our pages had to do with the numerous spyware programs installed with kazaa. It was a mess.

    I'm glad that in my department now my users don't have admin priveleges. If they get themselves spywared, it is easy to fix -- if all else fails, back up their roaming profiles and blow them away, recreate settings on next login! I don't know of anything that can survive a brand new shiny profile ;)

  29. From Gators own .js app detection file :) by caferace · · Score: 2, Informative

    DateManager PrecisionTime Gator eWallet OfferCompanion Dope Wars Go!Zilla MThree_Decoder MThree_Encoder MThree_Ripper DivXNetwork DivXNetwork2 Audiogalaxy Satellite MailCleaner Grokster iMesh Swaptor Shankster MediaSeek Morpheus Screen Scapes Software Supreme Sunsets Supreme Sunsets Setup Weatherscope Blubster Weatherscope SearchScout Toolbar

  30. CoolWebSearch by sysadmn · · Score: 2, Interesting

    See The CoolWebSearch Chronicles The story of a thousand hijacks.
    Quote:
    The difficulty of removing CWS from a user's system has grown from slightly tricky in the first variant to virtually impossible for the latest few. Some of the variants even used methods of hiding and running themselves that had never been used before in any other spyware strains. End Quote.
    15 variants so far....

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    Envy my 5 digit Slashdot User ID!
    1. Re:CoolWebSearch by Idealius · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, you can still remove the latest variants, it just takes much more effort. You have to use a program like Hijack This! which can scan all the registry keys that spyware like CWS normally resides and remove them manually. Just did it last week with a customer.

  31. Obviously by lurker412 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The most insidious are the ones we don't even know about.

    1. Re:Obviously by morgue-ann · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The most insidious are the ones we don't even know about.

      Mod parent up MORE!

      Ding ding ding!!!

      Why has AIDS killed more people than Ebola? Because it takes long enough to kill the host that many more hosts can be infected. You'd be lucky if you make it to the airport once you contract ebola, let alone fly to the States and bleed out on a Manhattan subway platform at rush hour.

      We keep hearing about how horrible Blaster/SoBig/CodeRed &c &c are, but wait until the worm that's been in the wild for a year, spreading slowly & carefully so as to not alarm intrusion detection wakes up on some very large portion of Windows boxes.

      Someone mentioned Magic Lantern, but even though it might not be conventionally detectable, at least the source is sort of known. It's the people clever enough not to brag, even to their spouse/sibling/friend, and to keep the conspiracy small that are more dangerous. (I just self-selected out of this group)

      How many times have you loosened up a firewall's rules because it was interfering with something you were trying to do, then not tightened back up when you were done? If a worm knocked at your door once a month instead of 100 times per second, do you think you'd notice?

      Yeah, I've been reading too much Brunner.

      We had a worm that exploited the RPC hole running around work. We have a good firewall, so no one's ever directly compromised one of the unsecured machines inside (e.g. CVS pserver running with cleartext user list and no passwords) and Lotus Notes, though mostly execreble hasn't brought a worm inside (thanks, I think, to server-side virus checkers). However, people check their personal email accounts with Outlook. That gets a worm inside that spreads around to unpatched win2k boxes (all of 'em).

      IT's response was to update virus checker definitions and run full scans more often. Kills the worm, but it's back an hour later. The only way to kill such a worm without patching the machines (which they finally did) is to turn off the switch and clean every machine.

  32. Shocking disrepect for consumer choice by StefanJ · · Score: 5, Funny
    You should be ashamed, ashamed!

    All these companies want to do is let you know about exciting new products and services that could entertain you, improve your life, and lengthen you genitalia.

    Shutting out these innovators . . . well, it smacks of Communism, doesn't it? First TiVO, screening out the ads that broadcasters, our public servants, need to survive. Now this ungrateful attack on champions entreneurship and freedom of choice. Just a bunch of surly, consumer-choice hating Reds is what you all are.

    I'm going to tell John Ashcroft what you've been up to so these SpyBot removers can be banned!

    Stefan "scared to hell that someone out there might actually be thinking like this" Jones

  33. Gator=Spyware by Naito · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'd love to see the day when a "define Gator" on Google returns "bottom dwelling scum sucking spyware" yeah you heard me, GATOR IS SPYWARE!

  34. Biggest spyware by too_bad · · Score: 3, Funny

    I am not sure what this thing was, but its the biggest spyware I have seen. It came installed
    on my laptop, and even after I installed Linux, it continued to exists. Everytime I forget to press
    arrow key while bootup, it would boot into this spyware. Once I am there, I am given a illusion that
    this thing looks very similiar to my Linux system, but everything was slow. There was an ambulance
    (I think thats what they use for hijacking my laptop) which would keep yelling "Click here to update".

    Then it did have something that looked like konqueror and it did show some internet sites. But I couldnt
    open more than one tabs in it. Also, every 2.5 seconds it used to open up a colourful window offering
    me stuff I did not want.

    Then I got a message saying Cindy wants to talk to me. I didnt want to talk to Cindy, but it kept yelling
    at me for not saying Hi to Cindy. Cindy was barely wearing any clothes (shudders)

    I finally managed to get rid of this spyware, and everytime I think about it I shudder.

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  35. Not just adware and spyware by Ryan+Mallon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    More and more applications are becoming intrusive, software such as Winamp, Windows Media Player and Kaaza all having annoying dialog boxes which popup each time you run them if they detect a newer version which you haven't yet downloaded. MSN actually refused to do anything until I upgraded it.

    A large number of applications now have an online registration feature, they dont force you to do the registration, but they will bug the hell out of you if you choose not to.

    Applications such as RealPlayer try and sign you up to email based newsletters(spam), why should I have to give my details (email address, home address and hobbies for example) to a company in exchange for using their software?

    There seems to be a gradual increase in the invasiveness of software, currently most of these 'features' are still optional, but I dont think it will be long before many software companies start making things like software updates, online registration and having a valid email address mandatory.

  36. Netsetter Proxy by Ethan+Butterfield · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is about the nastiest one I've seen in my consulting work. On its most basic level, it inserts itself into the registry as the default proxy server for IE. Unless you get the registry entry, it'll just keep putting itself back. What gets really bad is that I've seen Netsetter break several computers' TCP/IP stacks entirely. With Netsetter ripped out you get PCs that can dial up, connect, and have complete connectivity except no DNS resolution. And you can't get DNS back without either an in-place reinstall (works for 95/98/ME/XP), or a complete format and reinstall from scratch (NT/2K).

    They're on my short list of People Who Need To Be Shot.

  37. I do tech support... by skank · · Score: 2, Informative

    and run into this cr*p all the time. New.net is always fun, as are Xupiter, Xzoomy, and the newer varients (like orbitexplorer). Theres another one called lop that has been pretty fun to try to get rid of. Here is a quote from doxdesk.com about lop I find amusing "lop/Toolbar installations normally put a round icon in the system tray, try right-clicking this, choosing 'Menu', then on the resulting window, clicking 'Help', then 'Uninstall'. With newer variants you will have to answer an annoying riddle before it will go away."

    I really hate dealing with this stuff over the phone with people who don't know what IE is or where the start button in any version of windows is located. It makes you wonder how they know they have a problem in the first place, did they make it to thier 3rd game of solitaire and not get any pr0n pop ups? Either way, if you don't know how to use a computer, why do you automatically click on "I agree/accept" any time it pops up on your screen? This was my short list of spy/ad/cr*pware that gets on my nerves on a daily basis. Have a nice day...

  38. In gator's defense... by stile · · Score: 2, Informative

    Now, let me step up and argue the other side of this one for a moment. Sure, gator sucks if it shows up when you don't expect it to, like if some shareware program you download installs it without telling you. However, I recently wanted to encode a DIVX movie. Just one or two, mind you, not a ton of them. So, I went to the DIVX website and downloaded their encoder. They will let you use the decoder for free (or they used to...) but the encoder part costs money. Alternately you can install and use the encoder for free if you agree to let gator on your system.

    They're very up front and honest about it: they want money for their software, so either you fork it over or donate your eyeballs. Sounded fair, I didn't intend to have it on there for more than a month or so.

    The installer was also very open about the fact that it was installing Gator, and the fact that I'd be seeing ads occasionally. After I installed it, gator came up, and I found a nice little preferences pane. After some digging through "advanced settings" I found out I could make it display ads approximately 1-3 times a week at minimum. I did that, and it never bothered me again. I think I've seen it pop up maybe a few times. I can deinstall it any time.

    So what's the big deal?

    1. Re:In gator's defense... by Pr0xY · · Score: 2, Insightful

      there is no need to "detect" unused cycles, all the programmer has to do is set the process to low priority and it will only get run when there is no real work to do...it's that simple.

      as for whether or not they actually do this, I dunno, I'm just glad to not have it installed on my computer.

      proxy

  39. Worst of them? LiveGirls.exe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Recently a client came in with a PC and said it was acting funny and suspected there was some kind of virus on it. A scan detected that there was several files that appeared to be infected with something called "Downloader-DZ" and, along with the links to porn sites (my favorite one being "Operation... SEX!") and the homepage being replaced with a porn page, there were SEVERAL dialers installed, and an attempt to just delete LiveGirls.exe did nothing... it later reapeared.

    To put it short, I spent two hours running spyware removal software and manually editing out bad registry keys. A pain.

    Oh... and PLEASE tell people they don't need that FUCKING SHIT like hotbar and weather bug either!! I'm sick of seeing that crap on people's PCs!

  40. Mostly Ethics, Seldom Legality by billstewart · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Most of this software, while some of it is Ethically Challenged, doesn't have legal problems, at least in the US. The stuff claims to be free or cheap, and usually tells you that you'll get advertising, and even though it doesn't always tell you how much data it's collecting, it's usually not breaking any laws by doing it. Even the annoying features like popups or making your machine dog-slow aren't illegal, they're just misfeatures. Often you even have to press a "Pretended to read the fine print of the license" button for it to install.

    Some of it's not even broken ethically - if all they're doing with it is deciding which ads to show you, rather than tracking your every move online, especially if they didn't collect personal information about you, and if they didn't lie to you about what they were doing, and if they have a privacy policy that actually reflects what they're doing, that's ok. Not necessarily something you want to run, but ok. Some particular examples are the adware versions of Eudora and Opera.

    European data collection laws may have terms that popular spyware violates, but usually the spyware companies aren't based in Europe so there's no legal jurisdiction. The data collection laws themselves are often effectively spyware - in return for "protecting" you, they're also subjecting you to possible audits of your machines because you *might* have personal information about other people on your computer or your PDA or your cell phone. (Sure, they mostly pretend they wouldn't do that to regular citizens, only businesses, but it's pretty much a selective enforcement thing. And you are registering all your computers with the data protection bureau, aren't you?) But at least it doesn't slow your machine down when they're not auditing you.

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  41. For more info ... by fygment · · Score: 4, Informative

    ... maybe this site would help:

    http://www.spywareinfo.com/downloads.php

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  42. EarthLink users: think about SpyWare Blocker by valmont · · Score: 2, Informative

    i've been an earthlink user for quite a few years now and i usually tend to stay away from ISP-supplied software, but they have been putting out some pretty cool shit this year thru various 3rd-party software partnerships/cobrandizing, the latest of which being SpyWare Blocker powered by WebRoot. it is actually quite cool: it'll look for advertising companies cookies and disable'em for you, as well as offer you to remove 3rd-party spyware and trojans, i think it can do some other shit but i haven't entirely explored it yet. it maintains a constantly updated database of existing spyware. i wonder if it would catch the New.net shit. hrmzerz. and it's free for all earthlink customers.

  43. Windows by Hes+Nikke · · Score: 2, Informative

    Microsoft Windows and that dastardly Messenger service. (enabled by default) that would be the most insidious adware out there.

    oh and i guess XP qualifies for spyware with that nasty activation "feature" (though not quite)

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    1. Re:Windows by freeweed · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Microsoft Windows and that dastardly Messenger service. (enabled by default) that would be the most insidious adware out there.

      Much as I hate the Messaging service, calling it adware is like calling your email client adware.

      I think we're missing the point when we can just call any application that receives data and presents it to the user adware. Adware is better applied to things *intended* to serve up ads.

      Believe it or not, the Messaging service was originally planned to do other things, and in fact, generally is. Just not for 99% of Windows users :)

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  44. Alyon Technologies and the auto-dialer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative
    Say what you want about annoying spyware and adware, but how many of them cost you $100? My computer had an auto-dialer installed on it somehow. We received a bill for $100 from a collections agency. It took us a week to even figure out who was trying to collect money from us. It turns out to be Alyon Technologies. You can read all about their shady dealings here.

    I thought that I had it bad, but some people received bills for $500. They have gone to court, and somehow they have not been shut down (though anyone that disputes their bill gets the FTC as a third party arbiter). I encourage everyone to educate themselves about Alyon Technologies. Go read through that site, you will learn about some of the worst people in the world, and how they will take advantage of you and then tell you YOU are at fault.

    I don't know if there is a Hell, but if there is, these people would be in the center of it.

  45. How to stop it on XP and above by friday2k · · Score: 5, Informative

    In Windows XP there is a feature called Software Restriction Policies (SRP, see here). This feature allows you to deny software to run based on Certificates (and Path, and Hash, and Zone for MSI). Since all the Spyware installers use signed Active-X "drive-by" installers this is an effective way to kill them. This, however, is an arms race. You need to collect the certs you want to invalidate first (upon first encounter of a spyware safe their cert into a file and disallow it). You can find the feature in Control Panel->Administrative Tools->Local Security Policy. Have fun!

  46. weird google override by HermesHuang · · Score: 2, Interesting

    On my laptop the dns for google seems to have been overwritten. Don't know what did it, but it always redirects me to this other search engine (forgot what its name is already). I've tried resetting the DNS tables with no luck. Now, whnever I want to use google, I have to just type in the IP address. I haven't been able to fix the problem - if anyone else has come across this, I'd really appreciate it if you could post how to fix the problem.

    1. Re:weird google override by aderusha · · Score: 2, Informative

      it's probably this. likely your hosts file has been hijacked, and quite possibly moved to a different folder (try c:\windows\help\hosts). the link has a removal tool.

  47. Preventing Spyware? by kaptainsunshine · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm a end user admin on a small (300 machines ) network where both IE5 and Netscape4 are available ( and nothing else ) on WinNT4. I'm constantly fighting against end users that install spy/adware. I'm losing the battle and re-imaging machines on a daily basis... I'm looking for tips on reducing downtime due to this junk being installed. Any tips would be appreciated.

    1. Re:Preventing Spyware? by cyt0plas · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Deep Freeze. Once it's installed on a machine, unless they use a boot disk, all changes are transitory. You could even reformat the HD, and it would look like you really did, but after you restart, all changes are gone. You can even define "safe" folders where this doesn't happen, like a shared documents folder.

      It's a pain for end users, but if you are already re-imaging daily, it's the same effect without the work.

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      Contact Me (got tired of viruses emailing me).
  48. MSN Messenger by The+Herbaliser · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Has all the same problems as RealOne, plus the way it gets on your computer is really insidious... it's on there before you even open the box.

  49. Re:Bonzai Buddy by evilzippy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Yes! Nasty little purple bastard. I informed one of our directors that it was a pest when I saw it on his home computer and he just said to leave it on there because "his kid likes it"... scary social engineering...

  50. Microsoft should fix windows by jonwil · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Basicly, any time a program wants to do something like put something in startup or modify winsock settings or stick files in windows system folder or modify the hosts file or dns settings or things like that, windows should come up with a nicely worded warning about why clicking "yes" is a bad idea.
    Also, it should log all these actions so that for example, you can see which programs installed what settings (so you know what to remove)
    And it should have something that allows sysadmins to turn off these things completly (just like how its possible to turn off control panel and other system things)

    That way, when some idiot wants to install kazza, the system detects that kazza wants to install "privacyviolatingspyware.exe" to c:\windows\system\importantmsfile.exe" and add it to startup and denies the request.

    What should be done when the request is deined (either because its completly switched off or because the user clicked "no") is that it should return for file i/o calls "cant open file" and for registry calls whatever the appropriate error is.

    Or better yet, pretend to write to the registry or the file but dont actually do it.

    1. Re:Microsoft should fix windows by hetta · · Score: 2, Informative

      There's a nice little program called "InCtrl5". It was freeware, from PCMag, but they now want money for their "free downloads" ... should be easy to do, though.

      It takes a snapshot of your system before and after you install something, and shows you the difference. Configurable - "don't include this directory" or "include this directory" - but really, the default settings (check windows directories, registry, autoexec.bat, config.sys) are sufficient.

      'course, haven't used it in quite a while, now that I use SuSE ... but it was useful, way back when.

  51. The list is too long by GuruHal · · Score: 2, Interesting

    As a service tech I see New.Net, Xupiter, Gator, and Savenow all the time, but I didn't see Marketscore in there anywhere. It proxies your connection through one of Marketscore's own servers - I'm sure its for better service not actually spying on your content ... Whatever. Sometimes MArketscore adds 2 minutes (yes minutes) to a boot time and all your info is router through through their insecure proxy server. Total garbage. It wreaks havok on our customers since our email servers will not allow email to be sent from outside our domain, so any customers that have it on their home systems and try to send email get errors. The customers I talk to have no idea how it got there or why its running. Worst part is they don't understand how software doesn't show up in their add/remove programs section while running as a background process. It requires a command line uninstall process which is a bit elusive and makes many customers squirm.

    Recently TVT Media has made it onto my $#!T list - go through the uninstall process and it reports that it is gone but a reboot proves otherwise. In fact, if you remove the keys and then run the uninstaller and go back into the registry all the keys are regenerated. We'll see how much more press that kind of crap will get.

    Memory Blaster seems to be another growing problem on the horizon too, but its still pretty fresh to say how bad that one will be.

    In all truth new.net and Xuptier are probably the worst since they have a tendancy to destroy the winsock portion of the TCP/IP stack and take people offline when DNS queries are returned unresolved. Nice products: NOT.

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    "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" -- Red Green
  52. Ummmmm, no by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There are three ways spyware gets on to someone's computer:

    1) You visit a website and it installs as an ActiveX control. However you must grant permission for this to happen. By default, it will ask you on a per control basis. You may change this to always deny or always permit if you wish, but it is up to the user to make the call. MS has done nothing wrong here, they allow you to choose how you want your system security set and what you wish to permit.

    2) You install an application that, as part of its install process, installs the spyware. It may or may not inform you of this. This is again, not an issue for MS. If you choose to execute software on your computer there is nothing they could or should do to stop you. It is your computer, after all, and executing software is its purpose. IF a company sneaks in spyware, it is their fault.

    3) You voulantarily download and install spyware. YOu'd be amazed how much users think what some of it does is coll and wants to have it. Again, MS is not at fault.

    Get off the trendy "Let's blame everything on MS" stick. It isn't there responsbility if others write malicious software and it isn't their responsbility if users install stupid shit on their computers. Linux has no protection against this either. If I send you an app that allows me to control your system, and you install it, Linux will do nothing to stop you. It's not like OSes have a built in evil dector or anything.

  53. The most insidious ones I have run across: by Mostly+PO'd · · Score: 2, Interesting
    lop.com and keenvalue aka wildmedia.
    They had morphed since being written about even 2 weeks before(of course I googled), and combined took me 4 hours to eliminate off of a client's Win98 PC. They used every dirty trick in the book to hide and re-install themselves: hidden startup files that rename randomly at each reboot, multiple startup locations, redundancy by installing themselves disguised as several different innocuous sounding programs, including maxmem, maxspeed, ie driver, ie update, People On Page, and more. I finally had to resort to verifying the legitimacy of every single program that was installed, and then manually scan the registry for references to all of the bad stuff. Oh, and by the way, this was after running adaware with the latest updates! (Which I still of course highly recommend, it was just behind on this one.) This stuff used every underhanded trick in the book to keep from being uninstalled. Combined these were far "stickier" than even the worst viruses I have dealt with.

    While this software may have been legal, it's methods IMHO should definitely NOT be. I would jump at the chance to join the butt kicking posse going after the sleaze/parasite/spy-ware vermin!

    "It's scum like this in my industry that lead to my handle"

  54. Spyware/malware infests more than just P2P by Analysis+Paralysis · · Score: 2, Informative
    While most P2P apps are riddled with the stuff (kudos to Shareaza and MLDonkey for steering clear of it), malware can crop up in some surprising places. I once downloaded a Windows Theme from DebbiesThemes. It came packaged in an .exe file - when running this it offered to install TopText, then silently (and without asking) tried to install the following:Using an application firewall like System Safety Monitor can help limit these (it intercepts calls between applications and allows you to permit or deny them) but this does require an experienced user.
  55. Re:Something to keep in mind... by ddimas · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Whether it is less than 1% or more than 10% of the population that is gay, depends entirely on the political agenda of the person or organization reporting the statistic.


    Not quite, the number reported depends on the political agenda of the reporter. The actual percentage depends on biological, and social factors, and the precise meaning of gay.


    Case in point, while the ancient Spartans took male lovers, were they gay? Careful how you answer that, Leonidas is standing next to you with a (sharp) spear. They certainly would have killed someone who is effete. Useless in war you know.

  56. Re:wow, idealab by rgmoore · · Score: 2, Informative
    Interesting, new.net is an idealab company, which is sort of the archetypal silicon valley pipe dream.

    That's interesting, but Idealab is not a Silicon Valley company. It's based in Pasadena, which means that it missed Silicon Valley by about 350 miles.

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    There's no point in questioning authority if you aren't going to listen to the answers.

  57. Re:hahah by dasmegabyte · · Score: 3, Funny

    Autopr0n, your sig is an especially insipid sort of inline advert, because your website is so terrible.

    I would never think of advertising my ventures in a slashdot post.

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    Hey freaks: now you're ju
  58. National Privacy Principals by guru_Stew · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Australia has National Privacy Principals which among other things forces companies that gross 3mil plus PA to inform users that data is being colledted and stored and for what purpose. it also must allow a person access to any data that is stored about them.
    There is also a bill in parliment that will do more and will have hefty penalties.

    I dont know exactly what XP sends to microsoft, other than SN details but the average user trusts MS and for the moeny they pay for a license they should be able to.

  59. Most widespread spyware: Windows XP by edxwelch · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Windows media player (which is part of WinXP) collects data about what you are listening to and sends it to a MS server. And we don't know what other things are going on under the hood.

  60. Re: hmm.... adaware? by PunWork · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you're running Win98SE - you can always refresh your installation by running

    "setup /p f"

    That goes through the installation procedure, refreshing all the corrupted/replaced files. Gives you options to keep the more recent ones, too. That's solved many a problem for me...

  61. This is Easy -- AOL by blizzardsoup · · Score: 2, Informative

    AOL is by far the worst piece of spyware ever devised by man.

  62. Re:I had to help a user over the phone uninstall t by GlassUser · · Score: 2, Informative

    For IE 5/6, do tools, internet options, security, internet, custom level. Set everything in activex controls to disabled, except automatically run, which you can set to run. This will only allow already-installed controls to run, but won't download new ones or give you that damned annoying message about how it's not running them because of your settings (that's the only reason you tell it to run - if you can deal with it nagging you for every refresh, set that to disabled too). You can block specific things like flash by adding the GUID and a descriptor to a certain part of the registry.