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China Launches Linux-Based Smartphone
An anonymous reader writes "This news item at LinuxDevices provides photos and specs of a new Linux-based smartphone being launched today in China. The device, called the E2800, sells for about $600, and targets business users, offering PDA functions, touch-screen, handwriting recognition, a camera, and memory expansion to 512MB through an SD memory card, the article says. The device's manufacturer is a Shanghai company named E28. The E2800 is a 900/1800MHz, GSM/GPRS class 10 device based on dual ARM9 processors, running embedded Linux with a 2.4-series kernel. Other recent Linux-based mobile phone announcements have been Japan's NTT DoCoMo's 3G phones and Motorola's A760."
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Do they make the source code available?
But the person on the other end always sounds like they're speaking Chinese.
Intigrated and embeded devices are the wave of the future. People don't want to carry around a laptop, pda and cell phone. I see things like this catching on. Especially with the stability and support that embeded linux has. I see technologly going rapidly in this direction, especialy in the mobil marcket.
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fisher price looking palm M100 piece of chinese ish!
just my thoughts....
Saddam:captured Your evil overlords- those who run Islamic nations, Left-Wing Socialists experimenting with the lives of their countrymen, and Communists, killing human spirit and progress and legislating mediocrity - will be deconstructed and destroyed. You cannot impose your foul cults on the progressive world. You will be found and stamped out sometimes with force, sometimes under the weight of your own corruption (just like Nicolae Ceausescu.) Also, Communists and Far-Left Socialists, you will be shown to be the frauds you are and your failing systems will buckle under the system of economic imperialism and power. We will defeat you all until you capitulate into acting like human beings and worrying about your family, your children, their success and their future and human progress before your cults, religions and nationalism. We will expose the cults and the frauds you are and when you capitulate to the progressive west your standard of living will rise and the lies of you
You may say that we are corrupt liars but we, the progressive west, are less fucked than any of the Communist, uber Socialist or Islamic governments. We produce real results in technology and higher standard of living. So the proof is in the pudding, bastards, if the West is so cracked and beleaguered with fraud may the best system win. We are better than you, smarter than you and more motivated than you. I expect to defeat your scum corrupt governments in the course of the next 100 years. Prepare to do battle on economic, standard of living and the war fronts, losers. Go cry to Castro baby!
HAILS TO THE MT
Despite the fact that China has imprisoned tens of thousands of Falun Gong followers for no reason other than their beliefs... or that the families of executed prisoners have to pay for the bullet that killed their loved one.
/. doesn't care that Steve Jobs is personally enriching himself with OS X through the labor of an untold number open source developers.
/. was progressive, liberal, enlightened even.
But then,
I thought
Honestly, you all make me sick.
lol
Dual processor in a phone now! What next?
Retail for $600 in China!! From the country that can't afford to purchase software and piracy so rampant you can buy any piece of software on the streets for $5. Yes, I'm sure this will do quite well.
Phone Taps You!
Do not speak of things you do not understand and which are beyond your level of comprehension. The world is not black and white, or simple as you would like to dream.
This reminds me about the article on uber-gadgets.
If only this were available stateside
-drool-
Hey! come on! try dividing it by anything!
Some technology in the phone that isn't talked about
It will automatically phone police when if you text "Falun Gong". Also the words democracy, voting and human rights will also cause the phone to dial the appropriate authorities to protect the poor citizen from potential harm. It also helps identify and track citizens that need to be re-educated.
Isn't technology great? **remove tongue from cheek**
AngryPeopleRule
"Science is about ego as much as it is about discovery and truth " - I said it, so sue me.
Link to E2800
I can see the ad campaign now...
Like that stupid Cheerios ad except instead of some middle-aged sad sack saying "I lowered my cholesterol," it would be a bunch of hopeless geeks running around muttering "cat /proc/cpuinfo".
I know I would :)
fp45!
Sorry guys, but does anyone realize that the far world is leveraging west influences to bring prosperity to their country? Its not about freedom but economics. Support your local coffee shop
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#finite
Now Chinese business men will be able to peruse the 5 websites their government allows them to view -- on the move! Plus they'll be able to speak with their business partners and family about ideas that are inoffensive to the government!
Stuff that Matters? No.
As cool as it is, these stories lost relevance when IBM put Linux on a wristwatch.
Whatever it is I'm complaining about, I'm sure the Republicans did it. This is
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More not cheap - cheap shit...
In COMMUNIST CHINA, Smartphone Launches YOU!
GO China GO
Cheers,
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Do they make the source code available?
What if they don't? And more importantly, who's gonna make them?
They're their own country. They make their own laws.
GPL is based on copyright law, which is roughly the same for all signatories of the Berne Convention (of which China is one). So in principle it's enforcable against Chinese businesses or government operations in Chinese courts.
What that means is authors of the base code (or their assigns) might get Chinese courts to issue an injunction to block the distribution of the code or the selling of boxes containing it, if the source isn't available or is wrong. And maybe the government would enforce the injunction, to avoid reciprocal hassles protecting Chinese authors in international markets.
But the real teeth would be obtaining and enforcing injunctions against selling the product in other countries, for western hard currency, if the source isn't forthcoming.
Bantam Dominique roosters crow a four-note song. Once you've heard it as "Happy BIRTHday" you can't NOT hear it that way
The phone is actually another Chinese population control device.
After the birth of his first child, Ho Chen takes a digital picture with his new smartphone. The smartphone senses a baby picture has been taken, and upon its return to Chen's pocket, it radiates his testicles to ensure he will not procreate ever again.
Having a bookmark to Google does not make you an expert on everything.
In SOVIET CHINA ... Phone Taps You!
Maybe literally.
A speakerphone with a web camera, running compromised softwre, also amounts to a DANDY audio/video room bug.
Perhaps the "Telescreen" has arrived in Eastasia, only 19 years after the prediction.
Bantam Dominique roosters crow a four-note song. Once you've heard it as "Happy BIRTHday" you can't NOT hear it that way
Ya know, people are going to become REALLY confused when phone processor speeds reach 900 and 1800 mhz.
Quid festinatio swallonis est aetherfuga inonusti?
Africus aut Europaeus?
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- E2800 tech support. How can I help you ?
- Your company sucks. This stupid phone sucks. I cannot get a dialtone while I'm in the parking area of my building. It says "no signal". And it's just 3 levels underground.
- Oh. I see. (with the best BOFHish voice). I'll be more than pleased to boost the signal level specially for you, in order to promptly solve this problem that's so annoying you. What's your username ? >clicket< >click<
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I wonder how much R&D $ went into it.
I see a lot of posts complaining about human rights, etc.. how can they afford it? blah blah.
So time to feed the trolls...
Who cares?
The only time you care is if you can get cheap gas!
..but can it run OS/2?
A speakerphone with a web camera, running compromised softwre, also amounts to a DANDY audio/video room bug.
Not if the Li-Ion battery is physically removed when the user isn't in the mood to receive calls. Or do you suggest that the main body of the phone contains a big capacitor to power it even when the battery is removed?
China's answer to Hyperthreading.
The news story reads:
A Chinese company based in Shanghai named "E28" has quietly been selling Linux-based smartphones in China since August,...
So, how is this "China", the country launching a product? It's a company doing the launch, and quietly at that. When Cisco releases a new product, do we say "The United States Launches..."?
I suppose slashdot editors see product lines as the new arms race, where products created in a market are attributed to the country as a whole.
Why buy a first generation smart phone? When you could buy a treo 600 that does everything you want, has tons of applications because it runs PalmOS, and is supported by a company that's been in the business of making pda / cell phones for a while now?
So before you go troll around with your anti-China posts, know that he people and the goverment are two different things. Get that straight.
Moreover, Slashdot being enligtened or liberal is not up to you to determine. In a totally open public forum, you cannot possibly make intelligent generalizations about the people here. By doing so, you are merely being ignorant.
"dual ARM9s..."
... does that mean the kernel is SMP? Do the ARM9s support it natively, making the kernel think it's only one processor?
So, someone tell me
Does uCLinux support SMP? (Next on the SMP docket: UserModeLinux... whee!)
On their site, there are a number of flash videos avaliable. On the one that is about gaming, and has "battle bee" initially printed on it, can anyone identify the first song that it plays?
Ok, maybe this is just me. But the Linux kernel is a Unix server-style kernel. Why is it being used in a Cellular phone? I can think of a lot of reasons not to use a full blown OS in a phone, but I'll just let /. list all the things you can only do on a cell phone using Linux 2.4 and then whether it could be better accomplished using a light, specialized OS.
I guess on the bright side you might be able to use a commercial full-featured browser, but given the relative scarcity of these devices you're probably going to have to contract it or build your own anyway.
Note the edges of the screen people, how did the display become so square, while the screen itself isn't? Even more blatant, why should the phone have an oval outerlid that would, apparently, only shows a grey box-like icon?
Something's not quite right here, methinks.
More than mere navel gazing.
Does anyone know where to get motherboards and hard drives that small? I'm about to start on a project that would benefit from a tiny motherboard, the type that fit into this cellphone's case, and I haven't been able to find any sources except for the upcoming nano-itx form.
Since the US doesn't manufacture cellphones, and Japan does, is the tech threat from the new Chinese phones directed at Japan? Does the US only benefit from cheap new tech here?
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20 years ago, cell phones were the size of watermelons.
Why is it that every time a Chinese company does something the slashdot article begins with "China does Blah-blah-blah... plop."
You know, there are over a billion people in China. I'm sure many of them even have some small ammount of autonomy from the evil borg communist collective that americans seem to think dominates them all. Is this just simple racism or is it some kind of fear complex?
If someone said
"All your Linux 2.4 SCO SMP Code in your new telephone are belong to us."
Yes, for Japan, it's Docomo launches a Java phone and for America, it is Motorola launches a Java phone. For the poor small Chinese company, launching the Java phone is just part of its patriotic duty to the massive communistic collective?!?
Give the Chinese company a name and a face!!! They are not a faceless commies collective!!!
The company is called E28 and the phone gets launched is E2800.
Frist "does it run Linux?" psot
Having read the article thoroughly, this startling news shows the flaws in the brewing Open Source Zeitgeist that is gripping the software community. Have you considered that providing software for free to countries such as China is essentially tacit support for oppressive regimes?
Far-fetched? Think about it: With MySQL, the People's Army will now be able to do multiple queries on their tables of democratic activists in Olog(n) time instead of lengthy searches in card catalogs. The bureaucratic overhead previously allowed activists enough time to flee the country. How about building cheap firewalls so the people can't get the unbiased reporting that CNN provides? Or using Apache to publish lists of Falun Gong people to their police forces instantly? I doubt that never crossed your minds when you were coding away in your parents' basements. Consider putting that little thought in your mental resolv.conf file.
If that does not concern you ( which it probably doesn't, since the lashout.org paradigm is publishing articles about how not to pay for things ), consider something else. When China eventually goes to war with Taiwan, we want to be able turn their command and control facilities into the computing equivalent of a train-wreck. One of the advantages of Windows never mentioned in the article is the ability of Microsoft to remotely deactivate Windows XP in the case of a national emergency. Thanks to GNU/Lunix, Taiwan will be on a collision course with the mainland in the near future.
Which throws into question Mr. Stallman's motives. A known proponent of socialism, the Chinese government and RMS are natural allies. Could it be a back door to Stallman's dream of an uber-Socialist United States? We may never know for sure. Next time you consider contributing to an open source project, ask yourself this question: don't you want to make sure your work isn't used for nefarious purposes? Will you risk having blood on your hands?
You racist nerds are really creepy !
Everytime there is a news item about China on
Just how many of you have been to China ?
And just how many of you realize that in China at least you are not harrassed by the RIAA or DCMA.
Why criticize the Chinese for what they have done to the Falun Gong, when your own American government did worse things to David Coresh and his cult members, including innocent children in Waco, Texas ?
Just in case you guys need some refreshers -
CHILDREN WERE BURNT TO DEATH in Waco, Texas,
BY THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
'nuf said.
"The E2800 is a 900/1800MHz, GSM/GPRS class 10 device based on dual ARM9 processors, running embedded Linux with a 2.4-series kernel."
Hello is this the SCO to which i am speaking?
I live there, and I can still read your dumb comments on Slashdot.
Hahahahahaha
More Chinese spam-relaying servers then?
-- grmbl woz heer
Have someone seen O2 XDA 2? Truly amazing gadget.
It's Microsoft-powered, but cool anyway.
-- grmbl woz heer
A america-proof handy has finally arrived.
Is this just simple racism or is it some kind of fear complex?
It's the racist, fear complex of anti-american success stories.
God thanks, china has enough military power to ensure that things will stay this way. After you've understood the nature of this american complex it's pretty entertaining - for a foreigner who knows the world from a different view than CNN's.
(nuff said)
Let's get to the point.
As long as the average american isn't convinced that the average chinese ISN'T immune to radioactivity, they'll see china as a threat, forever.
I have to wonder if the problem of handwriting recognition is easier for languages that use an ideographic written form rather than an alphabetic form.
The biggest problem for somebody like me is the computer determining if I wrote "please" or "cheese" (yes, my handwriting is that bad). I would think that in an ideographic language it would be a lot easier for the system to sort through the known ideographs.
www.eFax.com are spammers
The phone is fat and ugly compared to all the other smartphones out there. And where's the camera?
I think that phone looks pretty tight actually... nice icons ;)
cept the only thing with linux devices like that, knowing that it runs linux makes me want to access a terminal immediately.. i want a phone with a terminal!!!!!!
lol....
- Hi I'm Linus Torvalds and I pronounce Linux, Lih-nix..
I don't know how Linus maintains his humility, but it must really kick butt to have your pet Uni project running in a gazillion devices all over the planet. Of the several projects I did in my free time in college, _none_ of them are running in cell phones. (Of course, they were done on punch cards, but still.)
I wonder if Linux would have caught on if Linus had been named Frank. Would anyone have been interested in working with/on an OS called "Franx?"
Hey, if this is off topic, call me on my Linux powered cell phone (as soon as I get one) and tell me all about it.:-)
I understand, sir. If we launch a product serving Project China Consumer, it has a name.
His name was E28.
His name was E28.
His name was E28.
His name was E28.
His name was E28.
If you were me, you'd be good lookin'. - six string samurai
Here in the US, the typical citizen can't be bothered to distinguish between Chinese, Japanese, Koreans and even Indians.
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I have heard a useful perspective on this from a number of Chinese immigrant friends. They all like to comment that, bad as it might be, American racism is nothing compared to Asian racism. While being quite aware of the way that most white Americans see them, they comment that American racists are much easier to deal with than the racists they've known in Malaysia, Thailand, Korea, Japan, or even other parts of China.
One thesis I've heard is that at least the American racists know that they're wrong. This doesn't stop them, of course, and they will rarely admit their racism even to themselves. But at least they have subconscious feelings of guilt. My Chinese friends seem to think this is something unusual, since in their experience, racism is open and unapologetic wherever they came from.
Well, at least they have a sense of humor about it all.
It might be effective if we were to start seeing headlines attributing the actions of some US corporation to "Americans". How would American geeks respond to being tossed into the same bin as Microsoft's marketing people or SCO's lawyers?
"Americans sue teenagers and grandmothers for sharing music."
"Americans say that the GPL violates copyright laws."
"Americans threaten companies that use Finnish linux operating system."
"Americans capture ex-dictator in Iraq."
Oh; wait
Those who do study history are doomed to stand helplessly by while everyone else repeats it.
I can't wait until the day when linux powering something is not news. When it's common place for linux/BSD or whatver other freeNIX to run on something, and have it not be a big deal. I mean, something running windows isn't news, because it's pretty common. Although, I was pretty shocked to find out that the self checkout terminals in most both Fred Meyer and Home Depot are Windows based.
Back on topic though. Won't it truelly be a milestone when running an alternative OS isn't news?
Pretty Pictures!
(nuff said)
Nah; we can have fun with this one.
United States of America threatens companies that use the Finnish "linux" operating system.
Anyone else got a headline?
Those who do study history are doomed to stand helplessly by while everyone else repeats it.
cryptophone.de
CryptoPhone is the name of a new PocketPC-based phone that provides state-of-the-art encryption technology for everybody (who can pay the price). The phone is based on a combination of two recognized encryption standard named AES-256 and Twofish using just a single dynamically generated key per phone connection.
What makes this phone outstanding is that its source code is going to be published in full for peer review. This a strong difference to other commercial products that do not disclose their encryption underpinnings which makes independent review impossible. The CryptoPhone people have a completely trustworthy approach. Check out their great FAQ to get more information on the details.
Best of all the product comes with a free windows telephony application using the same encryption allowing secure phone calls from PCs to the CryptoPhone. Hope there will be a Mac port soon.
Imagine this scenario: Type in 555-1234 and press send. Here's what you see on the screen:
Oh, the possibilities..."Believe me!" -- Donald Trump
Wouldn't it be more useful to have a phone device that would communicate with a Pocket PC for all of those extra features (handwriting, voice recognition, etc) and the phone would just be used for communicating with the service provider? Make the phones dumber and cheaper but give them a lot of compatibility with PDA's and Pocket PC's, so those do the work for the phones. Is it too much to ask to make my Pocket PC useful with other devices?
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I mod down every jackass who puts his moderation policy in his sig. Oh, wait a sec....
I think this is exactly the kind of attitude that got American industries into so much troubles over the past couple decades. First, there came the underpower radio built on transistor from some Japanese company. Well, before you knew it, Sony was #1 brand in the consumer electronics in the US. Second, there came some faceless Japanese car vendors and before you knew it, Luxus is top brand.
It's easier to dismiss a threat if you made it faceless and nameless and think of their action as stupid. Who knows what happened next? You will wake up, walk into Wal-Mart and found all the cell phones you can buy are made by Haier, TCL, and Ningbo and powered by E28.
This has happened in the past and it can happen again.
...AIDS education is equivilent to baptist religion in the United States of America.
...Citizens of the United States of America pay 2-3x as much for US Made Rx drugs than any other people in other countries pay for US Made drugs. And George W Bush's recent seniors drug bill just made it illegal to go to canada to purchase drugs.
...Internal Government agencies murder and jail for life farmers for producing state sanctioned crops.
...freedom of speech is nonexistant in the United States of America.
...soldiers are given amphetamines to enhance battle skills.
...infanticide of children in poverty is commonplace
...
of course the list goes on...
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