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H2G2 Cast Finalized, Starts Shooting in April

akahige writes "According to The Hollywood Reporter, Martin Freeman (The Office, Love Actually), Mos Def (Showtime, The Italian Job), and Zooey Deschanel (Big Trouble, Elf) have signed on to play Arthur, Ford, and Trillian, respectively. Stephen Moore is once again doing the voice of Marvin. No word on who's playing Zaphod (but wouldn't Eddie Izzard be great?). It worries me when they say things like, "Adams adapted his own novel for the screen. After his death, Karey Kirkpatrick came aboard for a rewrite." But it's Disney, so what do you expect? Shooting begins in April."

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  1. What to expect.. by grub · · Score: 5, Funny

    But it's Disney, so what do you expect?

    Probably not what you expect..

    Multiple Hitchiker toys at (McDonalds|Burger King) so people have to make several visits to buy them all.

    Perhaps a Hitchiker Ride at Disney World if the movie proves very successful.

    A DVD release followed soon after by a "collectors edition" release.

    A re-release of the books all spiffied up for the new consumers.

    A movie where quality will be second to the marketting of junk collectibles.

    bah.. /. needs a "+1, Cynical Bastard" mod.

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    1. Re:What to expect.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yeah, I love Douglas Adams and I like that he's popular, without becoming too non-geeky. You can tell a lot about a person if they know anything about Douglas Adams' books. Now every four year old is going to have seen a movie about it, robbing them even of the chance to experience the wonderful world of Douglas Adams *first hand*. I can not imagine what it would be like if I hadn't read the books first and based everything off a movie...

      This would be one of the worst things that could happen to a kid, literarily. Douglas Adams was a memorable portion of my adolescence escape.

    2. Re:What to expect.. by grahams · · Score: 3, Funny
      Perhaps a Hitchiker Ride at Disney World if the movie proves very successful.
      Yeah, and then 20 years from now they will make a movie based on the ride.
    3. Re:What to expect.. by petabyte · · Score: 5, Funny

      bah.. /. needs a "+1, Cynical Bastard" mod.

      I believe its called "insightful" :)

    4. Re:What to expect.. by grub · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Now every four year old is going to have seen a movie about it, robbing them even of the chance to experience the wonderful world of Douglas Adams *first hand*.

      So true. I'd love to know the stats of the people which paid to see the LotR trilogy multiple times, bought the various DVD editions, plastic cups from some fast-food dive but haven't read the books and have no intention of doing so.
      I'm not knocking Jackson or the movies, I think he did as good a job as could have been done, but no amount of CGI can beat the infinite movie screen of the imagination when fueled by a good book.

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    5. Re:What to expect.. by thegoofy · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yes, I can see the advertising blitz now...

      "Towels in the kids meals - Yes, Kids! You can hide from your parents simply by placing this over your head!"

      "This weeks special, the so long and thanks for all the McFish"

    6. Re:What to expect.. by adler187 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That would be McDonalds. I used to work at BK so I would know. BK only has the crappy Nickelodeon toys and other Non-Disney animation toys. And they wonder why BK sales are worse than MDonalds.

      I once had a lady ask me if the most important part of her kid's Kids Meal was in there as I handed her food out the Drive-Thru window. I asked her what the most important part was, and she said, "The Toy of course!" Kids dont care about the food, its all about the toy. Just my $.2

    7. Re:What to expect.. by Golias · · Score: 3, Insightful
      I'd love to know the stats of the people which paid to see the LotR trilogy multiple times, bought the various DVD editions, plastic cups from some fast-food dive but haven't read the books and have no intention of doing so.

      Here's your stats:

      Total: 0.
      Margin of error: Not enough to worry about.

      People who have not read the books tend to see them each once at the theater, and come out saying "a pretty good action flick, but kinda slow at times."

      The psycho-fans who are buying little Gollum statues and set pieces off eBay are people who read The Silmarillion twice (but claim to have read it three times.)

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    8. Re:What to expect.. by grub · · Score: 2, Informative


      ..and she said, "The Toy of course!" Kids dont care about the food, its all about the toy.

      I highly recommend you read Fast Food Nation. The author goes into some detail about marketting to children. Some parts are a bit alarmist but overall it's a thought-provoking read.

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    9. Re:What to expect.. by netringer · · Score: 2, Informative
      I can not imagine what it would be like if I hadn't read the books first and based everything off a movie...
      I may be wrong, but as I remember HHGG was a BBC radio serial script first. Then it was a BBC TV mini-series. THEN it was a book. The book might have come before the TV show. All the versions were slightly different.

      Maybe the radio listeners thought the visual versions ruined it for THEM!

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    10. Re:What to expect.. by pyros · · Score: 3, Insightful

      My first exposure to Adams was as a child, seeing it on television in England. I didn't read the books until the past 5 years, and I think they were more enjoyable, because I had seen some of the TV stuff already. Anyone who wants to read the books still can. Anyone who wouldn't have read them anyways won't be missing out if they see the movie instead. Take a deep breath and relax.

    11. Re:What to expect.. by Mononoke · · Score: 3, Funny
      You can tell a lot about a person if they know anything about Douglas Adams' books.
      Yeah, just ask them if they can figure out how the couch got stuck in the stairwell. If the don't know, then pass 'em by.

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    12. Re:What to expect.. by Iffy+Bonzoolie · · Score: 5, Informative

      cross-posting this from IMDB boards (yay, a quote of a quote of a quote):

      by The Duke of Dunstable:

      For those of you who are worried about the Disney involvement of the movie, here's what Douglas said about it in December, 1998.

      "First of all, I have not tried to 'downplay' Disney's role in this. Disney is the studio which is making this movie, which is financing it, which will be distributing it. It couldn't really be much more central to the project.

      What I have tried to explain is that people's ideas of who or what Disney is is a little out of date. Yes, it made Bambi and Snow White and Flubber, but it also made Pulp Fiction, The Rock, etc., etc. It is a huge entertainment corporation, one part of which still makes what it originally made, i.e. family entertainment. So to talk about 'Disney-fying' Hitchhiker makes as much sense as saying 'Columbia-fying' it or 'Universal-fying' it. Yes, each studio has its strengths and weaknesses at any moment, depending on who's running what, but generalisations based on Bambi no longer apply. The important issues as far as I'm concerned is - who are the individual people I'm working with? The director, the producer, the studio executive etc. As things stand at the moment, I'm feeling very happy, confident and well looked after. But we have a huge task and huge challenges. Let's see how it goes."

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    13. Re:What to expect.. by YOU+LIKEWISE+FAIL+IT · · Score: 3, Funny
      Multiple Hitchiker toys at (McDonalds|Burger King) so people have to make several visits to buy them all.

      I will gleefully whore out my favourite childhood novel if I can get a plastic Vogon figure with my Bugblatter Burger of Traal.

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    14. Re:What to expect.. by Schnapple · · Score: 3, Informative

      Don't forget the computer game, which followed the plot of the book to a certian point, then took a hard right.

    15. Re:What to expect.. by TexVex · · Score: 4, Informative
      People who have not read the books tend to see them each once at the theater, and come out saying "a pretty good action flick, but kinda slow at times."


      The movie Starship Troopers actually spurred sales of the original novel Starship Troopers. Despite the movie being a horrible rendition of the book (emphasis on the "rend"). I may be mistaken but I think the movie actually launched the book back into the bestseller lists (the first time would be when it was first published and won a Hugo award).
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    16. Re:What to expect.. by Golias · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Makes sense. Starship Troopers was a largely forgotten novel as far as most people were concerned until the movie came out and provoked teaming throngs of nerds to loudly complain that they were pissing on a classic work, prompting people to want to see what all the fuss was about. The backlash against the movie probably created more hype than the book ever enjoyed.

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    17. Re:What to expect.. by TomV · · Score: 5, Funny

      * Counter staff with Genuine People Personalities (tm)

      * A cup of something which tastes almost (but not entirely) unlike tea.

      * Shoes that not only do not fit, but which are actually joined at the heels.

      DNA was always a bit close to the bone.

    18. Re:What to expect.. by jafac · · Score: 3, Funny

      Don't forget the lawyers putting the kibosh on the Babelfish and Learning to Fly, due to potential liability lawsuits ("My son Bobby put a Trout in his ear, and now he's deaf. I want 25 million dollars!" or "My daughter Suzie jumped off the roof trying to miss the ground, and broke her neck, and I want 50 million dollars!")

      So, the Babelfish will need to be wrapped in a towel and placed on the head,
      and Flying? well, with Disney, we're talking about at faerie dust, right?

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    19. Re:What to expect.. by Evil+Pete · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I was very disappointed in the books because I thought the radio series was sooo amazing. It just didn't seem to capture the atmosphere even though the words were the same ... like the wry voice of the book which said a lot by the way it was said. I read the books but it just wasn't the same, and the tv series was another couple of notches further down the scale.

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    20. Re:What to expect.. by Slurm-V · · Score: 3, Informative

      From memory: (at work - but it's lunchtime) Share and Enjoy, Share and Enjoy Journey through life with a plastic boy Or Girl by your side, let your pal be your guide And when it breaks down or starts to annoy Or grinds when it moves and gives you no joy Cos it eats up your hat or has sex with your cat Bled oil on your floor or ripped off your door And you get to the point you can't stand any more Bring it to us, we won't give a fig We'll tell you, 'Go stick your head in a pig Thank you, ladies and gentlement. I'll be here all week. Try the veal, it's rumptastic.

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    21. Re:What to expect.. by TexVex · · Score: 3, Informative

      Ok, I'm straying totally off topic now. Mod me down, whatever.

      You might be surprised. The book was written and first published in "younger" and more "innocent" times, and it caused quite a controversy. Not quite so much as Stranger in a Strange Land, but Starship Troopers wasn't an easily ignored thing. It portrayed women in combat roles as pilots of spaceships. It portrayed non-white and/or non-American characters in most (if not all) of the key roles. It portrayed a society in which the right to vote or hold office was gained only through military service. It contained public flogging and public hanging. It described "police action" that closely parallelled U.S. activities in Korea and later Vietnam -- some of these were acts we would consider terrorism today!

      Aside from being controversial, the novel was also hugely inventive. The MI piloted what amounts to Robotech battle mechs.

      Now go look up the first publish date and realize that all that was written probably before you were born.

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    22. Re:What to expect.. by RackinFrackin · · Score: 2, Informative

      Reading the HHGTHG robs a person of the chance to experience the wonderful world of Douglas Adams *first hand*

      No it doesn't. The books weren't the original version of the story, but since they were written by DNA himself, they do give DNA's first-hand account of the story.

    23. Re:What to expect.. by mo^ · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Please try to read some stuff about douglas. (even the "salmon of doubt" should give you enough back ground..

      He considered himself a script writer and was happier writing mostly for radio and televison (doctor who anyone?)

      Saying he was meant to be read is just silly. The guiy loved technology and media in all its forms (the web, games, books, radio, tv), i think douglas just _was_

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  2. Disney by funny-jack · · Score: 5, Funny

    But it's Disney, so what do you expect?

    Umm... a happy ending?

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  3. Zombies on the board by phoenix321 · · Score: 4, Funny

    After his death, Karey Kirkpatrick came aboard for a rewrite.

    Written in hell. No doubt...

  4. Eddie Izzard - Both Male and Female? by Filmwatcher888 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Would he have one head with makeup, and the other without? - Cake or Death, Little Red Cookbook!

  5. Elf by Dreadlord · · Score: 2, Funny

    Zooey Deschanel (Big Trouble, Elf)

    Wow, I didn't know that the elves started to do movies for Hollywood ;)

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  6. H2G2 by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 4, Informative

    For those who don't know ...

    HitchHikers Guide to the Galaxy

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/

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    1. Re:H2G2 by iminplaya · · Score: 2, Funny

      Thank god...I thought it was one of those new elements that some mad scientist invented.

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  7. On the studios... by brucmack · · Score: 5, Interesting

    But it's Disney, so what do you expect?

    Adams on this subject in The Salmon of Doubt:

    "The Hollywood process is like trying to grill a steak by having a succession of people coming into the room and breathing on it."

  8. Re:H2G2? by tabacco · · Score: 5, Informative

    Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

  9. Someone explain to the non-Hitchhiker educated... by AvantLegion · · Score: 2, Interesting
    ... what the appeal behind Hitchhiker's Guide is, and where one should start if it sounds good to them (books? radio? Infocom games?)

    What was it that drew everyone to Hitchhiker's? Or did some people gain interest just from all of the different forms?

  10. Disney? Might be good .... by Xolotl · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Disney did The Pirates of the Caribbean". If they do HHG with the same degree of style (and don't screw with it too much) it might be quite good.

    1. Re:Disney? Might be good .... by c.emmertfoster · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The only reason that film was good was Johnny Depp.

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  11. H2G2 a common abbreviation? by Dimensio · · Score: 2, Funny

    I admit that I'm not a fanatic like some, but I have never heard that particular string used as a short way to refer to the Hitchiker's Guide series. I've seen HHGttG once or twice, but usually I just see the whole thing written out.

    It took me a moment to figure out the meaning of the headline. I had to actually read some of the additional commentary. If I had to actually read some of the commentary before posting on all articles, how could I shoot off an ill-informed comment that so blatantly exposes my ignorance?

    1. Re:H2G2 a common abbreviation? by danboy · · Score: 3, Informative

      H2G2 is the name Adams used for the Hitchikers website (h2g2.com) now owned by the BBC. That was the first I heard of it, but I think it's pretty common now.

    2. Re:H2G2 a common abbreviation? by KFK+-+Wildcat · · Score: 2, Informative

      The BBC (who sponsored the first radio versions) use it on their website.
      It's HHGG (HitchHiker's Guide to the Galaxy), only written like a condensed chemical formula.
      I admit it's not exactly an obvious acronym... I read the 2 as "to" myself the first time I saw it.

  12. they forgot the most important part!! by xao+gypsie · · Score: 5, Funny

    ....what company will be supplying the towel???

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  13. This doesn't match at all! by synth7 · · Score: 2, Funny

    When I read the story, Arthur was black and Ford was chinese. How dare they change the characters all around!

    (And what's with them removing the Dutch accent that all the Orcs had in LotR? Everyone knows that's how they talked!)

  14. I've got low hopes by KrispyKringle · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Somehow, things that were anti-establishment, outlandish, and unique seem to lose that anti-establishment fun when they're reproduced by a major motion picture studio.

    It always seems like they spend less time poking fun at things like how major motion picture studios do product placement and regurgitate the same old shit and spend more time doing product placement and regurgitating the same old shit.

    But I don't know. Maybe I'm just being cynical. After all, it's Disney! The people who brought us Brother Bear and, uh...yeah, Brother Bear!

  15. Re:H2G2? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I prefer:

    H1i1t1c1h1h1i1k1e1r1s1space1G1u1i1d1e1space1t1o1 sp ace1t1h1e1space1G1a1l1a1x1y1

  16. Keaton as Zaphod? by Wraithlyn · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Once upon a time I read that Micahel Keaton was their choice for Zaphod. I think he'd be great. :) This was years and years ago though.

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  17. This must be Thursday. by wildsurf · · Score: 5, Funny

    I never could get the hang of Thursdays.

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  18. Obvious response by elsilver · · Score: 5, Funny
    It worries me when they say things like,...

    Don't Panic.

    E.

  19. Head going to explode! by onyxruby · · Score: 3, Funny

    I think my head shall explode. Have loved the books for longer than I can remember. I even adapted part of one book for a play in college - went over well. Have also been boycotting Disney for longer than I can remember. Refuse to give them any money since long before their whole DRM, MPAA etc behavior. Head going to explode! Have I been sent to hell, with this as my punishment?

  20. A black, American Ford? by EverStoned · · Score: 2, Funny

    That's gonna be a tough one to pull off..

    1. Re:A black, American Ford? by NaugaHunter · · Score: 5, Funny

      They'll probably change him from Ford Prefect to Ford Taurus, or even Ford F-150.

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  21. Strange castng decisions? by tweder · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Does the casting for Ford Prefect seem odd to anyone else? At least when I read the books, I NEVER pictured Ford Prefect to look like this.

    1. Re:Strange castng decisions? by mihalis · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I thought that too, however since Ford is not even human (or at least not from Earth), insisting he be white and speak with a Britishaccent is a little limiting. After all, Ford grew up with Zaphod, right? Zaphod grew a third arm and second head on a whim, right?

    2. Re:Strange castng decisions? by Artichoke · · Score: 3, Insightful

      For me, given that it was a radio series first, I'll go with your first but not your second point.

      To expand a little. Yes Ford can be what ever colour you like, NAP. But Douglas Adams was a _very_ English writer, and if he wrote Ford with an English accent (witness accents on original BBC Radio4 series: mostly, but not entirely, English accents), I'd prefer it to stay that way.

      That said, without DNA to keep the director/movie corp in line, I'm re-jigging my expectations for the film.

      Disney doing subtle mixed with off-beat English humour <shudder>.

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  22. zaphod actor by Stinking+Pig · · Score: 3, Insightful

    really, really ought to be Tim Curry.

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    1. Re:zaphod actor by Lerxst+Pratt · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I think Tim Curry would make a better Ford Prefect. Imagine Time Curry's smile for a moment, then read this text from H2G2 that describes Ford:

      "Perhaps it was that he smiled slightly too broadly and gave people the unnerving impression that he was about to go for their neck."

      Well?!?

    2. Re:zaphod actor by sxe_p06 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Actually, I always pictured Ozzy Osborne as Zaphod. I mean, come on... THIS is Zaphod. He's got the glasses, the personality, and the accent.

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  23. At Least there's no Will Smith. by Dolemite_the_Wiz · · Score: 3, Funny

    The last thing Hollywood needs is another crappy adaptation of cool Sci-Fi media by Will Smith. Wild, Wild, Wild West and MIB were enough.

    Dolemite
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    1. Re:At Least there's no Will Smith. by PHoRD42 · · Score: 2, Funny
  24. H2G2: It changes every time!!! by TheMonkeyDepartment · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Throughout the history of H2G2, Douglas Adams adapted and re-adapted his works to multiple media. Starting with a radio show, moving to books and TV, even a computer game -- with every adaptation, he fearlessly changed it around as he saw fit, to embrace the strengths of the medium. The computer game is not the same material as the book, which is totally different from the radio series, etc. etc.

    In other words, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy series is all about change. If the movie is 100% faithful to the books, I'll be very disappointed. I want them to switch it around a little bit, give us some of the stuff we love, but also some new stuff too.

    I want to see the wonderful spirit of H2G2 and the sense of humor of Douglas Adams accurately reflected in these movies. If that's done, I don't care if Ford is black, if Arthur Dent is Latino, if Trillian is played by Queen Latifah or if Fenchurch is played by Harvey Fierstein.

    1. Re:H2G2: It changes every time!!! by jellisky · · Score: 2, Funny

      Oh, I definitely understand your drift... it's just that now, every time I hit upon Fenchurch in the books, I will get the mental picture of Harvey Fierstein in my head. Eeeee... *laughs.*

      -Jellisky

    2. Re:H2G2: It changes every time!!! by fermion · · Score: 2, Insightful
      It does change every time, but the essence is the same. The aggressive word play. The constant irreverence to the world and the norms. Jesus being refereed to as a guy nailed to a pole(or the like). Mice and dolphins ruling the world. The human character being the least important person in the galaxy. The earth is destroyed and no one cares.

      This kind of self depreciation is not American, and certainly not hollywood. If Arthur suddenly becomes a noble person, or there is grief over the loss of the planet, or, god forbid, it becomes Arthur's duty to redeem Ford and Zaphod, or even worse he gets Trillian, then the whole things falls apart.

      If this was mirimax, I might be more hopeful. But it is disney. Disney is all about the conventional status quo. It is why they have to have Pixar do their animation, even though Disney was once the greatest animation studio in the world. It is why they might lose Pixar, unless Eisner crawls to Jobs on his hand and knees.

      I hope is does change. I have mentioned some changes I would like. But I don't want to see this movie as another example where the studio bought the rights only to use the familiar name to sell tickets, while ignoring the fundamentals of the story.

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  25. "Hollywood" Re-Write of H2G2 Scares Me... by ausoleil · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So after the Lord of the Rings, comes another well-regarded piece of literature in the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Hollywood did well by LOTR, let's hope "they" learned their lesson and will let a piece of classic writing stand on it's own and not try to stuff the story into a 2-hour formula.

    My great fear of this is that the wit, sarcasm and anti-religious rage will be written out and instead, we'll get...Spy Kids in Space. The anti-religious part will be the first to go, otherwise Pat Robertson will be ranting and railing on Fox News about a horrible, blasephemous film coming from that esteemed home of children's entertainment, Disney. But it's a part of 'The Guide' and should stay in. Otherwise, it becomes...something else.

    On the other hand, I suppose Disney should be given a little benefit of the doubt, after all, Pirates of the Caribbean was a highly entertaining film.

    It will interesting to see what happens with this. I was hoping secretly Peter Jackson would handle the director's chair, given the respect he gave LOTR as literature. To me, Hitchhiker's Guide is a classic and should not be "messed with."

  26. Re:Mos Def by Shant3030 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yes, he's tremendous

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  27. Re:Huh? by dasmegabyte · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Whoa. The book doesn't say what colour he is, but he's from another goddamn galaxy. Be glad the actor isn't teal or something, or with a second head sewn onto his shoulder like the LAST H2G2...

    I for one am PUMPED to see what the mighty Mos Def can do for this film. He's an incredibly talented rhymer with a very distinct vocal style. His flow will match well with Davis' dialog. I'm already imagining him dropping great lines like "Muscle relaxant. You'll need it for hyperspace, it's unpleasantly like being drunk." "What's wrong with being drunk" "Ask a glass of water."

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  28. Start with the books by StringBlade · · Score: 2, Informative
    Unless you're attention span is so limited or work better audibly. The books have more detail than even the books on tape (sometimes) and you can read at your own pace.

    Additionally, the first three books are the best (Hithchiker's Guide to the Galaxy; Resturant at the end of the Universe; and Life, the Universe, and Everything -- I may have mixed up the order of the last two). So Long and Thanks For All the Fish and Mostly Harmless are ok, but get worse and worse. The trilogy probably would have been best if it had remained thus.

    The draw, at least to me, is the sci fi humor and use of language that Adams used, "Huge yellow spaceships that hung in the air exactly the way bricks don't," and "'Hyperspace travel is rather unpleasantly like being drunk,' said Ford. 'What's wrong with being drunk?' asked Arthur. 'Ask a glass of water,' responded Ford."

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  29. Obligatory Disney Joke by 2names · · Score: 5, Funny
    Mickey Mouse is in court and the Judge says, "I'm sorry, Mickey, but I can't grant you a divorce simply because you think your wife is a bit odd."

    Mickey says, "I didn't say she was odd, I said she was FUCKING GOOFY."

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  30. Re:Someone explain to the non-Hitchhiker educated. by rleibman · · Score: 2, Informative
    My Method,
    1. Read the first three books a few times over.
    2. Play the infocom game
    3. Read the first three books again
    4. Buy "The more than complete hitchhiker's guide", read it
    5. Read the radio scripts
    6. Read the whole series over again (repeat yearly)
    7. Read So Long and thanks for all the fish
    8. Yup, the whole series again
    9. Download from napster the radio show and listen to it
    10. Read Mostly Harmless
    11. Watch some chapters of the TV show
    12. Series
    13. Salmon of doubt
    Somewhere in there you should read The meaning of liff, the expanded meaning of liff, and of course the Dirk Gently books.
  31. So I guess by iminplaya · · Score: 5, Funny

    we're not going to boycott disney anytime soon, eh?

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    What?
  32. A Black Arthur Dent?! by thelizman · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...why not, it worked in blazing saddles...

    1. Re:A Black Arthur Dent?! by zoobot · · Score: 4, Funny

      There was a Black Arthur Dent in Blazing Saddles?

  33. I don't see Hollywood succeeding in this... by 3flp · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Sorry, but they don't have the mentality to capture the subtle hilarity of the Hitchikers guide. It's like a industrial drill operator trying to do a brain microsurgery...

    I'd like to be surprised though.

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  34. Re:Can someone explain please? by ZapoAM · · Score: 4, Informative

    H2G2 is just a different way of saying HHGG, which in turn is an abbreviation of HHGttG. The 2s are used to state the amounts of the different letters, not in place of 'to'.

    You know you're lazy when an acronym is too much effort to type.

  35. Infinitely improbable... by Kaishaku255 · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...that Tux will make an appearance as Ford Prefect turns into a penguin (the first movie) since he didn't even make the slashdot poll for favorite mascot!

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  36. Re:Wrong. by Lord+of+Ironhand · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Many people who are unable to visualize things in detail in their minds or have trouble following intricate writing such as Tolkein's can get a great deal of enjoyment from other media, e.g., movies.

    It makes me wonder though:
    - Do movies that leave little room for imagination affect the watcher's ability to visualise? (movies can leave room for imagination)
    - If so, should we actually worry about this, since it could simply be regarded as a form of evolution?

  37. but then again... by Doktor+Memory · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Come on, the company that made Lilo & Stitch can't be all that bad.

    Yes, but the company that made Lilo & Stitch and then proceeded to fire everyone who'd worked on it just might be that bad.

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  38. ekoJ OCS diputS by NanoGator · · Score: 5, Funny

    "No word on who's playing Zaphod (but wouldn't Eddie Izzard be great?"

    I nominate Darl McBride, he's already two-faced!

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  39. On the subject of a Hollywood rewrite.. by MROD · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Well, by-passes are out.. the American 13-18 male demographic don't know what they are.

    You can't have drinking to excess (even if it is with peanuts to help offset matter transfer and hyperspace) in a teenager film, so that's out.. It'll have to be Coca-Cola/Pepsi and Doritos instead.

    The mid-western 13-18 male demographic wont understand probability, so the infinite improbability drive is out. It must be the particle of the month, just like Star Trek.

    Satire isn't funny enough. Eddie the ship board computer will have to be smutty and/or throw custard pies. Marvin will be the cheery, slapstic C3PO look-alike.

    I'll just go and drink a Pan-Galactic Gargle Blaster (tm) (c)Zaphod Beeblebrox, (available at a seedy space ranger's bar near you) and drown my sorrows. (Oh, and that'll be canned as well!)

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  40. That's just the problem, HE did. by Kjella · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Throughout the history of H2G2, Douglas Adams adapted and re-adapted his works to multiple media.

    And you can beat your ass that no matter what anyone else does, it'll be shot down in flames. Just look at all the things they had to change in LotR - if JRR Tolkien had been there and said "We need to do this to make it work on the screen" noone would have complained. But even the things that were absolutely necessary got flamed from here to the moon.

    Besides, I'd love to see a good movie version of it as it is, I have the TV series. I just hope they can keep it just as British as the original, not hollywoodify it (as seems to happen to so many movies, whether they were made there or not). And at the same time give me some dazzling CG graphics, a proper 2nd head and third arm on Zaphod (real ones, just CGI attached).

    I really hope they can do it. Like that scene where they approach Magrathea, and the book steps in to tell the audience that noone will get hurt in the impending rocket attack. It's as un-hollywoodish as can be. And I love them for it.

    Kjella

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    1. Re:That's just the problem, HE did. by dwillden · · Score: 2, Informative
      I really hope they can do it. Like that scene where they approach Magrathea, and the book steps in to tell the audience that noone will get hurt in the impending rocket attack. It's as un-hollywoodish as can be. And I love them for it.
      Like you I really hope they can do it, but will they really be able to show, or even attempt to show the short life of an ICBW(Intercontinental Ballistic Whale). I can hear the complaints from PETA already.

      Regardless I'll be in the theater with my towel in hand.

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  41. Re:Wry look at "Life, The Universe, and Everything by Schnapple · · Score: 2, Interesting
    What drew me to the Hitchhikers Guide series?
    For me, I was in middle school and the Book Fair came into the library, offering to sell us all books. I remember seeing 12" LP's for this "Hitchhiker's Guide" thing and wondering what it was all about - and one of the books for sale was H2G2, so I bought it (amusingly, it reccomended "mature audiences"). Been hooked ever since.

    For the uninitiated, go into any bookstore in America and look for the "Ultimate Hitchhiker's Guide" - one volume, five+ books, $15. Cheap!

  42. Re:Someone explain to the non-Hitchhiker educated. by GrahamCox · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Everyone seems to be saying read the book first. I disagree - get the radio series (a very nice CD box set came out last year). This is the start of the whole thing - the books were written afterwards. The radio series is where all the original ideas were born. Sometimes they didn't quite work, and the book sorted out some of that and a few inconsistencies... but that's part of the radio series' charm. In addition the sound effects are wonderful (even ground-breaking, for their time), and only enhance the imaginative experience. In other words, the radio series is the "one true source", and everything else is basically a rehash (not that it means they're bad, just best read/seen in the oredr in which they were published).

  43. Re:Not that strange... by the+gnat · · Score: 3, Informative

    Let's face it, the way Douglas Adams wrote that character, I pictured a white english guy.

    I didn't. I pictured Arthur as a white English guy, and Ford as a really irritating Southern California hipster, race unimportant. Like some obnoxious American tourist who barges into an English pub thinking he's the shit and talking too loud. (I'm an American, by the way.) I think body language and style are far more important here than race.

  44. I don't see what all the fuss is about... by iapetus · · Score: 4, Funny

    I thought everyone knew that Fords could be any colour you like, as long as they're black...

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  45. Sometimes, the movie is better by NickFusion · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yes, everyone says that your own imagination is better than anything you'll see at the movies.

    Bah.

    Look at the credits for LotR. We're talking about 100s of professional dreamers, all channeling their combined skills into one magnificent creative act.

    They beat me. Their world was more brilliantly imagined, more consistently detailed than my lone brain could come up with reading those books as a kid.

    I think this is lazy-speak for another phenomemon. When you read a book, you are triggering fundamentally different feelings than you get watching a movie. There is a pleasure in reading that you don't get from film (and, I think, the converse is true).

    But, yes, I admit it. the combined talents of all the creative folk on LotR bested my imagination.

    Kudos to them. And good luck to the H2G2 crew, they have a big job ahead of them.

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    1. Re:Sometimes, the movie is better by ignoramous · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I agree with you on the WoMD, though it's off topic. Also, I think that those whose vision more or less agreed with what was shown in the movie probably liked it better than those who were envisioning something completely different.

      Things on the page sound less stupid than said
      I know. Once I started actually 'listening' to Robert Jordan books (envisioning what the dialog would actually sound like, etc) I immediately stopped reading them. Actually I had other, bigger problems with them and it was just the last straw. I still read Gibson and consider him a great author, even though his dialog routinely sucks.
      However, that is part of my point in a way. When you're reading the books, your own mind can put a sort of filter on the language. Even though a sentence is corny, by the time you're 200 pages into a book you're no longer reading actual individual sentences, you're just sort of seeing stuff happening in the minds eye. That makes it easier to ignore the occasional cheesyness. Then you get a single scene which may be quite ridiculous, but because the rest of the book is good it somehow turns out OK, after it's run past a few mental filters. With a movie you're always at the mercy of the director, the script writer, and the actors. Personally, I value the experience of reading a good book over the experience of watching a movie based on a good book every single time. But then again that's just me, and this is WAY OFF TOPIC.

      By the way, who said I'm judging anybody? I've put out some pretty mediocre stuff, if you look at the sum total of everything I have ever done, but I don't consider myself worthless. I love Peter Jackson, and I watched all three Lord of the Rings flicks. All I was really saying was that the jumping scene was cornier - though I apologize for the non-PC language if it offends anybody - than anything in my minds eye when I was reading the book.

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    2. Re:Sometimes, the movie is better by MilenCent · · Score: 2, Insightful

      They did not best my own personal imagination. Some (but by no means all) of the reasons:

      1. A movie has to be everything to all people, and this necessitates many trade-offs. My hypothetical best story is different from yours, and there are more people out there who would be happy with some lasers and rocket engines than would be happy Adams' superlative wit, just like there were more people who thought the Scouring of the Shire was an unnecessary add-on to the story than thought, like the author did, that it was an essential closing. With Lord of the Rings, this means that a whole bunch of people now consider these actors to be the definitive visual representations of these actors, and despite the fact that I generally liked the movies, I think that's a great shame.

      2. The modifier "professional" implies that someone can dream authoritatively. They cannot. In fact, I have a pretty low opinion of these people, for missing forests due to trees, looking at fine details while missing points. The people in the industry who most often connect words like "dream" with words like "profit" are Disney themselves, and despite a number of animated features, these days they tend to get it wrong more often than right.

      3. A movie is the work of hundreds of people, but some people are more important than others. Peter Jackson was much more important to the production than all the costume designers put together. If Jackson messes up, no one can make up for that deficiency.

      And a special case for this production:

      We're talking about DOUGLAS NOEL FREAKING ADAMS, for heaven's sake, a man I have always imagined as wit personified. These are not ordinary stories. I have never read anything else that zany and inventive, and I have no idea how the people making it can believe they can do it justice. Is Disney going to leave in Oolon Colluphid's philosophy books? Eccentricia Gallumbits? "Oh no, not again?"

      On a lesser, but related, note, I've always been more taken with the awesome, chest-bursting humor of Hitchhiker's than the story itself, which meanders from place to place, not always with a good reason. I think this fits the story nicely, very nicely indeed in fact, but I can't help but think that Disney will try to "improve" it. Doing so may well damage the humor.

      Anyway, sorry to disagree, sometimes the movie *is* better than the novel but I think this time it's impossible.

  46. Spy Glass Entertainment not Disney by cens0r · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Just remember that this is actually being developed by Spy Glass Entertainment which is a subsidiary of Disney. Saying that the movie will suck because of Disney's involvement is like saying that ABC and ESPN are horrible because Disney is involved. Spyglass is the arm of disney responsible for The Insider, Seabiscut, The Sixth Sense, and Unbreakable among others. Now you may or may not like those movies, but I don't think they were especially Disneyfied. Saying that this is a Disney picture is like saying Kill Bill is a Disney picture simply because disney owns Miramax.

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  47. douglas adam brilliant, but disney will cutesify by richard_za · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I believe the hitchhikers radio plays and books from douglas adams are amongst the most creative and funniest work ever. It's interesting to note that jrr tolkien was adamant that Disney would never make a move over his body of work, especially after what they did to the work of the grimm brothers.

  48. Mickey Mice made Earth? by allrong · · Score: 4, Funny

    Surely the mice won't all look like Mickey will they? So long and thanks for all the Nemo?

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  49. Listen to the ORIGINAL incarnation of HHGTTG by tklancer · · Score: 3, Informative
    For those of you that are interested, KCRW has the original BBC Hitchhiker's Guide radio series up, accessible via RealWhatever.

    The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, by Douglas Adams

    Now, please refrain from slashdotting it until I've gone home for the day. I'm trying to listen to Fit the Third.

  50. Re:Someone explain to the non-Hitchhiker educated. by kalidasa · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Read the first three books first, in order (*Hitchiker's Guide*, *Restaurant at the End of the Universe*, and *Life the Universe, and Everything*). Then listen to the radio shows (it is vitally important that you listen to the radio shows and read the books BEFORE you watch the BBC television series). I'd suggest the books first because they are the highest quality, even if the radio series is the fons et origo. Note that there are important differences in the organization of the books and the radio series: but you'll be able to see how DNA reworked the material for the books, and will hear the actors rather than seeing them.

    After that, watch the BBC series. The BBC cast used mostly the folks from the radio cast. Thing is, they're radio actors, and they act like radio actors - their movement, blocking, etc. are all a little stiff, even if their voices are superb. Also, the budget was very tight, and the production quality (special effects, sets, wardrobe, and especially the prosthetic head) leaves much to be desired.

    Next, read two stories that appear in *The Salmon of Doubt*. The first is "Young Zaphod Plays it Safe* - the version in *Salmon of Doubt* is uncensored in the US, while the on in the *Ultimate Hitchiker's Guide* and the other omnibus editions are censored in the US so that the ending leaves you a little confused (the last line is dropped). The second (though probably the oldest story of all, though I never checked on it) is "The Private Life of Ghenghis Khan".

    After you've read those, it's time to read *So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish*. Enjoy. This one is a little more surreal than anything else, but it's still pretty damned funny (the biscuit story, which is absolutely realistic, is funny as hell).

    Now, wait until some time when you're in such a good mood that nothing, not enough universal apocalypse, will make you sad. Get your favorite blanky out of the attic, and call up your significant other and ask him/her/shim/sher to remain on standby for a call. You are now prepared to read the last book, *Mostly Harmless*. The whole book is very, very dark, even though it is still quite funny. A lot of people hated it because the ending is rather depressing, and there's some retroactive continuity that's stretched a bit thin, but if you're over 30 you'll get it right away (if not, I've got terrible news for you: this is what life is like).

    Then go out and get yourself a nice glass of orange juice and a breakfast sandwich. It will cheer you up.

  51. Re:H2G2? by hendersj · · Score: 2, Informative

    No, because it's HitchHiker's Guide to the Galaxy, or HHGG, which "reduces" to H2G2.

    See The BBC Website for a reference.

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  52. Re:Someone explain to the non-Hitchhiker educated. by osu-neko · · Score: 2, Interesting
    ...the biscuit story, which is absolutely realistic, is funny as hell...

    Not only is it realistic, it happens to be a true story -- it actually happened to Douglas Adams, who then just had to stick it into his next book.

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  53. I once asked Douglas Adams... by Dr.+Zowie · · Score: 5, Interesting
    ... where his towel was. It was in a large auditorium at the University of California (San Diego). He was talking about his new book, "So Long, and Thanks for All The Fish". It turned out that he didn't know where it was. But about half of the audience happened to have brought theirs, and started waving them about... :-)

    The towel story, he said, came from being on an extended vacation in Greece and never having a towel with him when his buddies wanted to go to the beach. The cooler folks always seemed to have theirs along.

  54. Adams' thoughts on TV and Hollywood... by Dr.+Zowie · · Score: 3, Funny
    I heard Adams speak, in 1984, about the television series and, in particular, the HHG sequences within the series. Those sequences were all hand-animated (since computer graphics were actually expensive then!). He talked about how he saw the initial draft animations, and figured that that they were too complex for an American audience (in keeping with conventional Hollywood wisdom). Then he happened to be in the U.S. (maybe to cut a deal for the series, I forget why) and spotted some teenagers playing video games. That was the time when Xevious, Defender, and Sinistar were all the rage. Adams went back to the studio, he told us, and insisted that they redo the animations to make them more complicated.


    Here's hoping the creative/adaptive tam here has the same spirit of humorous overload!

  55. Karey Kirkpatrick info by decapentaplegic · · Score: 2, Informative

    Looks like Karey Kirkpatrick might be a pretty good choice for this projct since Adams is, well, unavailable. IMDB shows that Kirkpatrick has writing credits on some good films:

    The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (2005)
    Laws of Attraction (2004) (post-production)
    The Little Vampire (2000)
    Chicken Run (2000)
    Honey, We Shrunk Ourselves (1997)
    James and the Giant Peach (1996)
    Rescuers Down Under, The (1990)

    Especially notable is James and the Giant Peach, a great film which did a great job of capturing the intent of Rohl Dahl, an author with a lot of similarities to Douglas Adams. As for Honey, We Shrunk Ourselves, well everybody has to pay the bills.

    Plus (you've got to love IMDB), his brother wrote the theme song to the TV series "America's Dumbest Criminals".

  56. Please god, no, no by OriginalArlen · · Score: 2, Funny
    Mercy... save us all from this incipient horror... I speak as someone who's been listening to the Guide since 1979, can probably recite every line of the radio show in the saddest fanboy manner imaginable so yes, I'm never going to be happy but...

    Imagine this was LotR. Imagine they'd announced Tim from the Office as Frodo, Mos Def - who IS a great rapper, I only got into him after listening to Scritti Politti's wonder 'Anomie and Bonhomie' alubm but that's a tangent for another time - as Gareth, and that the film was going to be made by Disney.

    Ladies and Gentlemen... Disney presents: The Lord of the Rings!

    Ah well, what better reason to break out a bottle of Ol' Janx Spirit could you ask for? I may sing a little, it's just been - well, you know how it is.

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  57. Re:Can't we have ONE fucking movie without a rappe by cens0r · · Score: 2, Informative

    Mos Def actually came from the theater community before he was a rapper.

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  58. ... except it only applies to the web site by yoz · · Score: 3, Informative

    Heavy sigh...

    h2g2 (note the lower-casing) is the name of the online guide inspired by The Hitch Hiker's Guide To The Galaxy. It's considered "official" because it was created by The Digital Village Ltd., the new media company that had Douglas Adams amongst its directors, and he assisted in its creation. It is not the name of the book, the radio series, the game, or anything else. Just the online, fact-based guide.

    If you want to reference the fictional story or Guide with an abbreviation, I'd recommend HHGTTG. Or HHGG. Or HHG.

    -- Yoz, who was one of the four original developers of h2g2.com, and is also horrifically pedantic

  59. My .02 by presearch · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I wish that Terry Gilliam would have been chosen as director.
    This movie treatment deserves to be something special/spectacular.

    also

    DNA narrated all of his books for Dove audio, and added (again) something special.
    It would be lovely if they would his voiceover for narration or for the guide itself.

  60. Zaphod... by Big+Sean+O · · Score: 2, Insightful

    As a victory lap for his Oscar-nominated performance in Pirates of the Carribean, I nominate Johnny Depp.

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  61. New meaning of the word Finalized. by NiteHaqr · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The subject says casting is finalized.

    Yet the Article says that Zaphod is still to be cast!!!!

    Hmmmmmmm

  62. Writing by chefbb · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The main issue I see with the film is that one of the main appeal of Adams' writing is just that, his writing. There's no way in a film to portray "the ships hung in the sky in exactly the same way bricks don't" (hopefully i got that close enough)

    That said, i'm looking forward to seeing the movie provided the producers put their imaginations into it.