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Nokia Admits Multiple Bluetooth Security Holes

An anonymous reader writes "Nokia has admitted that four of its handsets (6310, 6310i, 8910 and 8910i) have multiple security vulnerabilities that can allow an attacker to read, edit and copy the contacts and calendar entries using Bluetooth. This admission comes after a ZDNet UK article published earlier today. the spokesperson advises customers to switch off Bluetooth in public places!" For more information, see the bluesnarfing site pointed out by reader profet.

136 comments

  1. Great ! by mpeeters · · Score: 5, Funny

    Great, not a single Mac OS X app can correctly address my 6310i, but Joe Random Hacker can? Urgh. I need to get my priorities straight.

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    1. Re:Great ! by Grounded0 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Go in to System Preferences, click Bluetooth applet, check "Support Non-Conforming Phones".

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    2. Re:Great ! by singleantler · · Score: 3, Informative

      While I can use my 6310i as a modem for my Mac with no problems, I can't access the phone book in it, which is highly annoying, and using 'Support non-confirming phones' hasn't made any difference to that.

      It's a shame - this is something the Sony/Ericsson phones do very well, but I still prefer Nokias overall (mainly because of their interface.)

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  2. bluejacking by martin · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Old news. The concept of hijacking bluetooth links was first mentioned here back in November.

    But I guess Nokia finally admitting they have an issue is interesting. I wonder what the other Bluetooth capable device manufacturers do about this???

    1. Re:bluejacking by DJPenguin · · Score: 4, Informative

      Bluejacking is just where you send a contact to available phones, and it just used to startle people. This is nothing to do with bluesnarfing which is the hacking/changing data!

    2. Re:bluejacking by MrvFD · · Score: 2, Informative

      According to this article (in Finnish) Sony Ericsson is going to give a statement on Tuesday. Possible vulnerable SE models include R520m, T68i, T610 and Z1010.

    3. Re:bluejacking by MrvFD · · Score: 1

      I'm not very good in Japanese, but can understand enough words to see that that's not the point of the article. Maybe your language skills are a bit lacking?

    4. Re:bluejacking by Library+Spoff · · Score: 1

      but more importantly is my z600 affected!!!

      *gnashing of teeth*

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  3. No big deal by cwernli · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What's happening with Bluetooth happened with wireless networks.

    What happened with wireless networks happened with anonymous ftp servers.

    What happened with anon ftp servers happened with telnet access (you remember the "guest" login provided by most hosts ?).

    Every time a new technology is used there are some flaws with it. No big deal.

    1. Re:No big deal by pesc · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What's happening with Bluetooth happened with wireless networks.
      What happened with wireless networks happened with anonymous ftp servers.
      What happened with anon ftp servers happened with telnet access (you remember the "guest" login provided by most hosts ?).
      Every time a new technology is used there are some flaws with it. No big deal.


      BIG DEAL!

      You could expect that someone that designs a new communication protocol today builds on past experience. It's not like viruses, spam, malware and and crackers are something unknown. Instead, you should make the security requirements absolutely central in your new protocols. With the bluetooth technology becoming the most widespread wireless communications protocol (if you believe its proponents) not having security as a top priority is absofuckinglutely brainlessly idiotical.

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    2. Re:No big deal by infiniti99 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Just to clarify, this article is about a problem in Nokia's implementation of Bluetooth, not necessarily a problem in the actual Bluetooth protocol/specification. As an analogy, we hear about security holes in IIS, Apache, OpenSSL, etc, but these do not necessarily indicate problems in the relevant RFC documents. At least, we can hope so ...

    3. Re:No big deal by hanssprudel · · Score: 4, Informative

      There are problems with Bluetooth by design. For one thing, no wireless protocol for interaction between devices can be truly secure unless peering requires physical contact between them (I place my phone next to my laptop, but the spook across the street has a directed antenna that is a thousand times stronger then the phone...)

      It isn't like this hasn't come up before, Schneier predicted that Bluetooth would be a security nightmare three and a half years ago ! Quoting:

      What amazes me is the dearth of information about the security of this protocol. I'm sure someone has thought about it, a team designed some security into Bluetooth, and that those designers believe it to be secure. But has anyone reputable examined the protocol? Is the implementation known to be correct? Are there any programming errors? If Bluetooth is secure, it will be the first time ever that a major protocol has been released without any security flaws. I'm not optimistic.

      And what about privacy? Bluetooth devices regularly broadcast a unique ID. Can that be used to track someone's movements?

      The stampede towards Bluetooth continues unawares. Expect all sorts of vulnerabilities, patches, workarounds, spin control, and the like. And treat Bluetooth as a broadcast protocol, because that's what it is.

    4. Re:No big deal by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      ..and the 4 handhelds also are of the phones that have the crappiest bluetooth there is, not surprisingly being first(or nearly first) on the market as well.

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    5. Re:No big deal by lightspawn · · Score: 1

      Just to clarify, this article is about a problem in Nokia's implementation of Bluetooth, not necessarily a problem in the actual Bluetooth protocol/specification. As an analogy, we hear about security holes in IIS, Apache, OpenSSL, etc

      Oh, in that case, I know this one: it's the users' fault for not constantly monitoring the problems discovered in every software package they use and failing to update their systems, right?

      At least that seems to be the typical slashdot attitude - we love keeping track of software, so should everybody else.

      Kind of makes you glad recalls of non-software products don't work the same way.

    6. Re:No big deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You aren't distinguishing between design flaws, implementation flaws and configuration flaws. This is a crucial difference.

      Bluetooth and anon ftp suffer from implementation flaws.

      Wireless networks suffered (and still suffer) from design flaws.

      A guest login is a configuration (or policy) flaw.

      Implementation flaws are acceptable in new technology, especially in software where it can be patched quickly. Configuration flaws aren't really related to the technology. Design flaws are serious problems.

    7. Re:No big deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      There is a shared pin code which is entered into both devices. If this pin code is short, as it typically is for low-security applications, then you have a point.

      What's important, though, is that a shared key is negotiated without being sent over the wire. It may be possible to brute-force the pin with data captured from the initial authentication run, or there might be an attack against the key generation or encryption, but the "physical connection" you claim is required is only one way of ensuring that authentication data isn't sent over the radio channel.

    8. Re:No big deal by infiniti99 · · Score: 1

      Oh, in that case, I know this one: it's the users' fault for not constantly monitoring the problems discovered in every software package they use and failing to update their systems, right?

      I never said anything about users. A little cranky this morning? ;-)

      Security holes are the fault of the developer. However, more often than not, software has security holes that are fixed in later revisions, and the user will need to update. This need to update cannot be blamed on the user, it is just an unfortunate consequence of typical software development. The solution, of course, lies in the hands of the developers to not release code with holes. This is actually more realistic than you might think, just look at qmail.

  4. Hey, do you want.... by lofoforabr · · Score: 4, Funny

    a fresh list of emai^H^H^H^H telephone numbers so you can send your email marketing to?

  5. K.I.S.S by OlivierB · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Keep It Simple Stupid. Phones are tools. We don't "need" them to be fully featured akin a full OS. Today we have Bluetooth hole sin a few phones. What's next tomorrow on MSFT Smart Phones? Hackers turning in using your line to call 0900 numbers? People hacking your e-wallet? When it comes to commodity devices we should make sure they do reliably and securely work. I don't expect anything less.

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    1. Re:K.I.S.S by Viol8 · · Score: 1

      Most people would probably agree with you. I certainly do , but try telling this to the droids
      in these companies marketing departments where
      the mantra "complexity = good" is chanted on a daily basis.

    2. Re:K.I.S.S by OlivierB · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Think about the damages on windows PCs. Users are advised to keep their machines up to date and yet a significant proportion of them do not listen (want proof? Mydoom is now in version C and still taking hits at MSFTs website). Now how many of you have updated your phones firmware? Think about all those non PDA phones which don't come with a PC connection Kit. All these Nokia phones WILL remain vulnerable for as long as they will work because hardly anybody hassles to go in a Nokia centre to upgrade their firmware. I stand by my original statement. Commodity electronics are not meant to be upgraded as computers and users will not give them that kind of attention. With the advent of GPRS and other always on Data connection, be prepared for some more trouble as people hack into your phone from miles away. No need to be in bluetooth range.

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    3. Re:K.I.S.S by TheDigitalRaven · · Score: 1
      mantra "complexity = good"
      The actual mantra is "If it ain't broke, add more features." This time, they managed to reach critical mass.
    4. Re:K.I.S.S by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative
      Actually if you are kind of loose in what you term an OS, many Symbian devices run basically 3 OS at the same time.

      Application platform, misc. servers & UI apps (UIQ, Series 60, ...)

      Symbian OS (kernel, middleware)

      Some sort of Manufacturer RTOS for running a GSM stack, for which Symbian doesn't quite cut it.

      These devices are far from simple. Given what you can do on this size of device, I wonder why someone doesn't make a solid state PC, with a few seconds boot time, and no noise. Wireless keyboard, monitor, mouse and LAN. (I don't mean a laptop).

      I think the thing you mentioned (running up someones bill, on 0900 numbers, or otherwise) has already happened long ago, but by faking the SIM. I think the original GSMs had a fairly large security flaw related to the encryption key.

      Or you could just steal someones phone ;)

    5. Re:K.I.S.S by cozziewozzie · · Score: 1

      If you don't need these features, then this phone is not meant for you. There are people who do. You, on the other hand, are in luck, because you can get one of the turbo-cheap models that does nothing but voice and SMS.

    6. Re:K.I.S.S by Threni · · Score: 1

      > Phones are tools

      Phone are phones. Anything else you care to say about them, in terms of what they should/could or shouldn't do are just your opinions. My phone lets me do a number of things in addition to making and receiving phone calls, but it could do more. People like you remind me of people making predictions that `text messaging will never take off - why type a message on a fiddly keyboard when you can just phone them?`. How many millions of text messages are sent a day now?

    7. Re:K.I.S.S by little_fluffy_clouds · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Think about the damages on windows PCs. Users are advised to keep their machines up to date and yet a significant proportion of them do not listen (want proof? Mydoom is now in version C and still taking hits at MSFTs website).

      Your comparison with "their machines" and the phone firmware (essentially this is the phone "OS"), makes me think you believe that Windows Update can defeat MyDoom.

      Actually, MyDoom has fuck all to do with keeping your Windows PC up to date. It is about keeping your _virus_ scanning up to date, and not running attachments that make it through to you. I could have just run and completed Windows Update, but still be infected with MyDoom via the very next email I received and (stupidly) ran the attachment of. Remember, virus scanning is NOT part of the Windows OS, it is something that must be loaded and configured and paid for (usually, unless you go with grisoft or similar).

      Your point would be a lot better made if you referred to something like the Blaster or Nachi worm, where the fix was available via Windows Update for several weeks.

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    8. Re:K.I.S.S by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful
      > Phones are tools. We don't "need" them to be fully featured akin a full OS.

      That's as foolish as saying that PCs are just tools. They're for wordprocessing, administration and some games. That's how it was when I got my first PC. Why go connect with other computers, with all those evil hackers and expose your PC with your sensitive data? Why play and record music on your computer when you have specialized devices like CD-players and tape recorders? Because more features are better.

      Within ten years, phones will become always-carry-with-you wearable mini-PCs. As long as you have your phone with you, you also carry a camera, music/movie player, voice recorder, calender, notebook, game console, ebook reader, remote control, flashlight, and lots of other stuff. Sure, the interface could get a lot better, battery life still sucks now, etc. But we will get there eventually. Not too long ago, people thought 256-colors 320x200 was fantastic quality on a home computer.

      There is no line to cross for a phone to have a "full OS". The OS in your phone today is already more complex than my early home computers.

    9. Re:K.I.S.S by beeblebrox87 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Keep It Simple Stupid. Computers are tools. We don't "need" them to be fully featured with a full OS. Today we have network holes in a few applications. What's next tomorrow on MSFT Longhorn? Hackers turning in using your modem to call 0900 numbers? People hacking your e-wallet? When it comes to commodity devices we should make sure they do reliably and securely work. I don't expect anything less.
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      Dman luddites. Just because you would rather have a device that gives up freedom for security does not mean all of us do. There is a market for "KISS" phones, just as there is a market for locked-down xbox or "internet appliance" computers. Your post, however, implies that companies shouldn't produce more complicated phones. Personally, my phone's main source of usefullness is as a general-purpose, hackable device, and I don't expect anything less.

      Adding security doesn't mean we have to remove features. Linux is a prime example of this. Substantially more secure than most alternatives, not because it removes features, but because people actually paid attention to security when they wrote it.

    10. Re:K.I.S.S by neko9 · · Score: 1

      can you name some models, please. i'm very interested.

    11. Re:K.I.S.S by EvilNTUser · · Score: 1

      Isn't it odd how many of those luddite posts actually get modded up? This is slashdot - why are people trying to sound cool by saying they don't "need" something? I thought that kind of behavior was reserved for PHB's.

      In other news, I don't need emacs, because the MS-DOS editor has all the features anyone should want from a word processor.

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    12. Re:K.I.S.S by OlivierB · · Score: 1

      You have a valid point. However I am more and more "obliged" to buy phones with cameras, color screens etc simply because simpler ones are less and less available. I don't argue that some people need and actually want convergence, I'm just saying that those who do not want this still have to go with it (and pay the price, security wise, and money wise). My second complain was about adding features not securely: Why not use linux or whatever else if you wish. But make sure it works! I don't want to end up running "Nokia update" every week as on my Windows box. More features, yes but not at the expense of security and reliability.

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    13. Re:K.I.S.S by ahacop@wmuc.umd.edu · · Score: 1

      You would have a valid point if it were that hard to find a phone that doesn't have a camera. It's certainly getting harder but the vanilla phones are still easily available from any cell phone provider. Siemens and Nokia still make some nice ones. And you can always go the ebay route.

    14. Re:K.I.S.S by cozziewozzie · · Score: 1

      Look for a used one. You can usually get them for almost nothing and they're quite basic. Something like Siemens C25 or Nokia 3210. If you're looking for a new one, each manufacturer has a low-price model. Examples are Siemens A-class, Nokia 3xxx. Not too familiar with other brands' cheap models, sorry.

      These are European, so they might not be available in the Americas.

    15. Re:K.I.S.S by neko9 · · Score: 1

      thanks! then i'm in luck - i live in Europe :-)

    16. Re:K.I.S.S by Ben+Hutchings · · Score: 1

      UIQ and Series 60 are basically GUI layers so it's not at all correct to call them OSes. You're right that SymbianOS isn't real-time so it does need to run alongside or under an RTOS. SymbianOS can run as a task under NOS (Nokia OS) or on a separate processor from the GSM (or other protocol) stack. I don't remember which handsets do which.

  6. Is Bluetooth upgradeable? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Is Bluetooth upgradeable and How?

    1. Re:Is Bluetooth upgradeable? by DJPenguin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I had the firmware upgraded on my 6310i to resolve some bluetooth connection issues, and I imagine the whole stack is upgradeable in this manner.

      I don't think the bluetooth protocol is broken - just the implementation.

    2. Re:Is Bluetooth upgradeable? by Linux+Ate+My+Dog! · · Score: 1

      Firmware is indeed upgradeable on Nokia phones, but you need specialized hardware for it, and it wipes out your current settings, contacts, and calendar. Basically you get apristine phone back, so it can be fairly traumatic.

    3. Re:Is Bluetooth upgradeable? by Organized+Konfusion · · Score: 2, Informative

      No it doesn't wipe anything, even my call timers were still intact after upgrading the firmware.

    4. Re:Is Bluetooth upgradeable? by marcello_dl · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Saying it all worked well for you doesn't mean it always work.

      Always do backups before firmware updates!

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    5. Re:Is Bluetooth upgradeable? by Organized+Konfusion · · Score: 1

      naturally, I did.

  7. Re:Important note: by grazzy · · Score: 4, Funny

    most people would probably be better off without the wheel.. but try telling them..

  8. Social science wonder? by orzetto · · Score: 5, Insightful

    These days we have all possible material about encryption available publicly. We have RSA, we have digital signatures, we have freely available software which can create perfectly encrypted material which would give bad headaches to the NSA if they had to crack it, even I can encode anything with gpg.
    Yet, a mobile-phone giant does this. Are they just plain stupid, or is this another example of the wonders of social science? I can't help thinking how intelligent an ant nest can be though ants singularly are so stupid, and how an organization with some of the brightest engineers on the planet can act so carelessly.

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    1. Re:Social science wonder? by Dogers · · Score: 2, Insightful

      stupid, definitely stupid.. look at the NGage, 3200, 7200, 7600, 7700 - Nokia are losing their marbles rapidly!

      They havent even got a fully functional 3G phone yet..

      Its that evil virus, whats it called again? Oh yeah, mismanagement.

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    2. Re:Social science wonder? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i wouldn't bet either way on what the NSA can or can't crack. They might be 100 years ahead of the academic community with crypto theory, on the other hand, they might be. There's just no telling.

    3. Re:Social science wonder? by c13v3rm0nk3y · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The problem with any encryption method is that it reduces (to some extent) convenience. Since convenience is the keyword mobile phone manufacturers depend on to sell their products, and any level of extra "complexity" is seen as a hindrance.

      The mobile phone market is so tight that any possible hindrance (whether it is reasonable or not) is seen as a liability to sales.

      Well, that and featching creeperism: Hey, we said we wanted Bluetooth phones. Nokia, et al, just gave them to us. We didn't say we wanted safe or well-designed Bluetooth phones, did we? Outside of a few troublemakers (like us), the market is perfectly happy with what it has been getting so far.

      Security needs to be designed into products, and we are still getting prototypes out the door and tacking on security as it the last consideration, or adding features w/o considering the security implications.

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    4. Re:Social science wonder? by Soruk · · Score: 1

      Agreed. The 6310i is a decent, sensible phone - triband, HSCSD-capable modem, and GPRS. Unfortunately it's the one with the fscked bluetooth implementation.

      I keep it enabled on mine for my BT handsfree unit, but it's set hidden. It's not perfect, but should make me less likely to get hit by it.

      (I was amazed when I did a scan in a cinema recently how many phones were advertising their presence.)

      I still use my older Motorola L7089 and T280 - neither of which have Bluetooth. But neither of the modems in them do HSCSD, and the L7089 doesn't go GPRS (or predictive text).

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  9. hmm.. i wonder why????! by freerecords · · Score: 2, Funny

    when things aren't built from the ground up with security in mind, there is likely to be some compromise for the sake of ease of use, when security issues come to mind. apart from the fact that any form of wireless communication is prone to be insecure! think about it.. ARGH THE GOVERNMENT IS LISTENING TO MY PHONE CALLS!!

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    1. Re:hmm.. i wonder why????! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      urrm, bluetooth was built from the ground up with security in mind. What has been mentioned in that article has nothing to do with flaws in Bluetooth security. In my opinion it's like grabbing an infra red remote control that works on all Sony TV's and running around saying WOW i just haxored your TV man... i can change the channel! the guy that wrote the article obviously knows nothing about how the pairing procedure works with bluetooth..... what a SAFER+ algorithim is... what frequency hopping is...... and what it means modes discover, discoverable and operation on are.... i think he needs to go to bluetooth.com read the f**ING spec and get some idea..... these are not flaws in bluetooth security... and in no way can be compared to the flaws in lame ass wifi 802.11b networks when they were released. :(

  10. I wonder... by supersam · · Score: 1

    ... if these are the only Nokia models which are affected by this vulnerability.

    What about other models that have Bluetooth? Are they safe from this security hole?

  11. Turn it off! by SpinyManiac · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you turn Bluetooth off, your're invulnerable and your batteries will last longer.

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  12. Ingornace? by juuri · · Score: 3, Informative

    Bluetooth was built from the ground up with security in mind, obviously Nokia totally boggled this.

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  13. Article text by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Redundant

    There's always somone who wants it. ;)

    Bluetooth phones at risk from 'snarfing'

    Munir Kotadia
    ZDNet UK
    February 09, 2004, 14:15 GMT

    A serious Bluetooth security vulnerability allows mobile phone users' contact books to be stolen. You've heard of bluejacking - now meet 'bluesnarfing'

    A security flaw has been discovered in Bluetooth that lets an attacker download all contact details along with other information from a vulnerable phone, while leaving no trace of the attack.

    Unlike bluejacking, which is where users can send a message to Bluetooth phones without authorisation, this latest discovery for the wireless-data standard allows data, such as telephone numbers and diary entries, stored in a vulnerable device to be stolen by the attacker. The new exploit is called bluesnarfing.

    Bluesnarfing is said to affect a number of Sony Ericsson, Ericsson and Nokia handsets, but some models are at greater risk because they invite attack even when in 'invisible mode' -- in which the handset is not supposed to broadcast its identity and should refuse connections from other Bluetooth devices.

    Adam Laurie, chief security officer at UK networking and security firm AL Digital, told ZDNet UK that the Nokia 6310, 6310i, 8910 and 8910i models were at greatest risk. "On some models of phone, you are only vulnerable to attack if you are on visible mode; however, there are other models of phones where you are vulnerable even in non-visible mode," he said.

    Laurie said he discovered the problem when he was asked to test how safe Bluetooth devices actually were. "Before we deploy any new technology for clients or our own staff, one of my duties is to investigate that technology and ensure it is secure. Actually rolling your sleeves up and looking at it, not just taking the manufacturers' claims at face value. When I did that, I found that it is not secure," he said.

    According to Laurie, he can initiate a bluesnarfing attack from his laptop after making a modification to its Bluetooth settings: "It is a standard Bluetooth-enabled laptop and the only special bit is the software I am using in the Bluetooth stack. I have a modified the Bluetooth stack and that enables me to perform this attack," he said.

    Bluesnarfing has huge potential for abuse because it leave no trace and victims will be unaware that their details have been stolen: "If your phone is in your pocket, you will be completely unaware," he said.

    Laurie said he has had trouble getting the major handset manufacturers to admit the problem exists: "I have had experts telling me that it can't possibly exist because they have been trying to do this and failing."

    Although the problem may affect other Bluetooth devices, such as laptops, Laurie said they are more difficult to target because the systems are more complex: "Mobiles are liable to be more vulnerable simply because the resources for menus and configuration are limited. Manufacturers try and make Bluetooth simple to use on phones, so you don't have much granularity in setting options. On a lot of phones, Bluetooth is either on or off," he said.

    Laurie said that for now, there is no fix available. He said that the only way to be completely safe is to switch off the Bluetooth functionality.

    AL Digital has developed several proof-of-concept utilities, but has not released them into the wild, said Laurie. They include: Bluestumbler, to monitor and log all visible Bluetooth devices (name, MAC address, signal strength, capabilities), and identify the manufacturer from MAC address lookup; and Bluesnarf, which can copy data from a target device.

    According to the AL Digital's bluestumbler Web site, vulnerable phones include: Ericsson T68; Sony Ericsson R520m, T68i, T610 and Z1010; and Nokia 6310, 6310i, 7650, 8910 and 8910i.

    Nokia and Sony Ericsson were not immediately available for comment.

  14. Big Woop. by INSSOMNIAK · · Score: 1

    No one wanders about with their phone whilst it is discoverable anyway.

    Looked more like an attempt to get advertising for their hosting company to me.

    I was interested to see the Z1010 on the list when the commercial version isn't out yet.

    1. Re:Big Woop. by zerosignal · · Score: 2, Informative

      I have my phone (non-Nokia) on discoverable all the time for convenience. I run Mac OS X, and use the Address Book application to send SMS messages via the phone. I also have iSync configured to automatically sync my address book once a day when the phone is in the vicinity of the Mac. I don't notice a major drain on the battery with Bluetooth kept on. Having to disable it every time I went outside would be very annoying.

    2. Re:Big Woop. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      From the article:
      "Bluesnarfing is said to affect a number of Sony Ericsson, Ericsson and Nokia handsets, but some models are at greater risk because they invite attack even when in 'invisible mode' -- in which the handset is not supposed to broadcast its identity and should refuse connections from other Bluetooth devices."
    3. Re:Big Woop. by INSSOMNIAK · · Score: 3, Informative

      You only need to be discoverable when you are pairing. After that you can keep bluetooth on and it is _supposed_ to only talk to those devices you know about.

    4. Re:Big Woop. by INSSOMNIAK · · Score: 1

      Which is a fault with Nokia and not with bluetooth.

      If you were stupid enough to buy a Nokia phone, tough luck.

  15. Unbelievable by sufehmi · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I can't believe this, a company as big as Nokia making mistake as stupid as this ?

    I thought most people would have learned something on the WiFi fiasco by now, especially Nokia (who also make security products such as firewalls by the way)

    Now let's see if they're dedicated enough to their customers to fix this problem quickly.
    In the meantime, it's good idea to keep this on the headlines of the media.

    On another note, I'd be interested about other bluetooth-enabled devices - handsfree headset ? iPAQs? Palm? Sony Clies?

    1. Re:Unbelievable by ebbe11 · · Score: 4, Insightful
      I can't believe this, a company as big as Nokia making mistake as stupid as this ?

      I can. The mobile phone manufactures in general and Nokia in particular is very much focused on time-to-market. That means that their phones are not always finished when they hit the shelves. To be fair, neither was my Ericsson R520m phone when I first got it.

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    2. Re:Unbelievable by Xoder · · Score: 1

      And your phone is vulnerable too. At least when it's discoverable.

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    3. Re:Unbelievable by don.g · · Score: 1
      ...when I first got it.

      ...how did it improve? Firmware update? Curious R520m-owning minds want to know :-)

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      Pretend that something especially witty is here. Thanks.
    4. Re:Unbelievable by ebbe11 · · Score: 1
      how did it improve? Firmware update?

      Firmware update. Twice.

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    5. Re:Unbelievable by ebbe11 · · Score: 1
      And your phone is vulnerable too. At least when it's discoverable.

      Normally it isn't. It uses too much power if BT is on all the time so I normally keep it on Automatic. That way my BT headset still works but the phone is not discoverable.

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  16. Solution: Employ Hackers by Channard · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Some companies already do, I'd imagine, but surely the solution would be to employ - and pay decently - people who've highlighted vulnerabilities in previous products/systems to go at phones/etc like the clappers, trying to find any vulnerabilities. Granted, few products are going to be 100% secure but surely it'd be better than holes like this cropping up.

  17. Irony by Dave9876 · · Score: 2, Funny

    The ad I got on the page with that article...

    Advertising nokia as a business mobility solution. Want to keep your business contacts a secret?

  18. It could be a lot worse... by heironymouscoward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Except that Nokia have built Bluetooth support only into a limited number of phones, mainly those aimed at the "business market". For instance, my 6800 has almost every conceivable option but no Bluetooth.

    I can't guess their reasons for not including Bluetooth with all their more expensive models, since it can't cost more than one Euro or so, but at least it means that of all the phones out there, relatively few are exploitable.

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    1. Re:It could be a lot worse... by sokeeffe · · Score: 4, Interesting

      This is exactly the reason why its such a big issue.

      As an consumer, if you have a bluetooth phone all you are likely to have is the phone number of your friends.

      As a geek, you are more than likely to have a PDA for keeping anything more detailed/sensitive.

      Business users, executives etc. are more likely to use the advanced functions of there phones and therefore it is they that are most at risk to losing sensitive data.

      So, whilst most models dont have bluetooth, the ones that do are the ones that are liekly to have the most valuable information.

    2. Re:It could be a lot worse... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are out by a factor of 10.

      1 Euro may be optimistic, but 2 Euro seems accurate.

    3. Re:It could be a lot worse... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I disagree that personal phone numbers are worth less than business ones. In fact this is just a silly thing to say. Almost everyone's phone has a mix of personal and business data on it. And if everyone was exposed to this problem it would most definitely be worse than if only a minority of phones are vulnerable. Many 'geeks' have MMS phones which often don't have Bluetooth, falling into the 'consumer' market.

    4. Re:It could be a lot worse... by sokeeffe · · Score: 1

      I disagree that personal phone numbers are worth less than business ones. In fact this is just a silly thing to say.

      What?!? If someone is trying to exploit this security hole do you really think they'd be bothered to get the phone number of your mate Billy? I think they'd be far more interested in getting the numbers from a coperate exec phone or other information that isn't readily available.

      Sure you could ring a company and ask to speak to a CEO but if you had his/her mobile number you could have a lot more fun.

    5. Re:It could be a lot worse... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      6820 has bluetooth and almost every concievable option. oh, while we're talking about options, I for one would like a phone with options that make sense. like why should a phone with 3.5MB memory have a camera with night-vision and video capabilities?

    6. Re:It could be a lot worse... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, like it's so obvious that 'Andy' is the boss of my company but 'Billy' is just a mate. Take a look at the contents of your own phone, dude.

    7. Re:It could be a lot worse... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you mean that executives are more likely to start pushing buttons without being aware of what they are doing, and then end up with a phone that is always discoverable, then I agree. Otherwise, in my experience, executives are the ones least likely to actually use the advanced functions of their phones. They like to have them to show off and engage in pissing contests with other executives, not to actually use for anything other that talking to people and storing a list of phone numbers.

  19. Re:Important note: by oshy · · Score: 1

    Well I could carry:

    pocket phone book
    diary
    electronic game
    alarm clock
    laptop for connecting to the net

    any other odds and sods, but if they are all in one thing, its lighter on my pockets.

  20. Hah, I'm Safe! by GonzoDave · · Score: 2, Funny

    Who'd want to hack an N-Gage?

  21. Both ZDNET and Nokia wrong by linuxislandsucks · · Score: 3, Informative

    You have to turn off bluetooth functionability to be safe..

    Nokia is vunerabile to both having the device detect on and off in the hacks..

    according to the bleustumbler.org site..

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  22. nokia is not the only one by collin.m · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Nokia is not the only phone maker with broken or stupid bluetooth implementations. Just look at the Siemens S55 which by default (when bluetooth is on) accpets any kind of files and saves them to your phones inbox. Also it has several bugs, like the Nokia. I'm have setup a small website (http://www.betaversion.net/btdsd/) with a currently very small list of bluetooth capable phones with there security settings and bugs. I tell you bluetooth will be real fun in the future :-)

    1. Re:nokia is not the only one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just look at the Siemens S55 which by default (when bluetooth is on) accpets any kind of files and saves them to your phones inbox.

      And that is a problem? You can say the same for any mail server. I think it's rather convenient to be able to send people my personal details without too much of a hassle. And the inbox you talk about is a dedicated area for files received via bluetooth and irda. Really don't see the problem here.

    2. Re:nokia is not the only one by collin.m · · Score: 1

      You can activate authentication - when authentication is active you just get a popup and need to confirm the connection (yes|no). This doesn't make the communication more difficult it just makes it more secure.

  23. What's the truth? by Tug3 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Interestingly from what I have read about the security vulnerabilities with the *five* models affected by this (Nokia 6310, 6310i, 8910, 8910i and 7650), Nokia has confirmed only that the 7650 has the problem. Also reported that some SonyEricsson phones would have similar vulnerabilities, but it was not stated which models. So, I take it that at least these five Nokia phones have the Bluetooth holes. But what is interesting is that different news-feeds report Nokia confirming/denying different models! What this really tells us that the writers of the news themselves are either: 1) Too lazy to look it up from Nokia itself. 2) Too naive to take some other newsfeeds info as a fact. 3) Too inexperienced to check the validity of the info. 4) Too ??? to ??? So, who made the mistake? ALL the "reporters" who did not check the validity of the news by themselves straight from the source.

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    1. Re:What's the truth? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      So, who made the mistake? ALL the "reporters" who did not check the validity of the news by themselves straight from the source.

      That's ok, there will always be a job for them here at slashdot.

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  24. Is Nokia the mobile Microsoft? by nSignIfikaNt · · Score: 2, Funny
    From the article: Nokia will not be releasing a fix for the devices in the near future because it said the attacks are limited to "only a few models" and it does not expect them to "happen at large".

    Doesn't seem smart to me. Admit there is a vulnerability then say you aren't going to fix it. I'm surprised they didn't say the "fix" would be released in the next versions of the affected phones and customers would need to upgrade following their easy and costly upgrade path.

    Of course a bulk enterprise license would cover any future upgrades but you would still have to buy a license for each phone call you make with the new phone.

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  25. Wireless is inherently insecure by ajs318 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I'm glad I still have my old 3210. As long as it continues to make a noise when someone dials it and transmit my voice and their voice in mutually opposite directions when answered, then I have no reason to replace it.

    When you're sending data over the air, then you have no way of knowing who is listening. That's why my home LAN is wired -- so I at least know if anyone is tapping me, then they must be on the inside. And I wouldn't trust the phone companies to build in any kind of security either; MI5 would never let them get away with it. You should assume any part of the network you can't see is tappable if not actually tapped. The best form of telephone security is to keep all messages short and hope they aren't listening when you're speaking.

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  26. Protected 6310 by Fizzl · · Score: 4, Funny

    I think I hava 6310 from the first batch. Never bothered to flash it because I rarely use it.

    This one does not have the vulnerability. You see, if you switch bluetooth on, the whole phone crashes immediately.

  27. But I only just got it! by Joe+Enduser · · Score: 2, Funny
    Great. Only Saturday I got my 7650 in a sale, and I bought it primarily for its bluetooth capabilities!

    Well, I guess it was worth those 48 hours of carefree wireless toying...

    1. Re:But I only just got it! by collin.m · · Score: 1

      The Nokia 7650 is differnet and should be secure as long as nobody then you has physical access to it.
      All OBEX communications (the stuff that is buggy) needs to be accepted by you and this is for the communication to start (not like other phones - do you want to save "exploit"? *BANG*)

  28. wireless protocols? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Curious, why don't all wireless devices use something like SSH?

  29. Not true - wires leak like hell by CrystalFalcon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    That's why my home LAN is wired -- so I at least know if anyone is tapping me, then they must be on the inside.

    This isn't true -- you can pick up (copper) LAN signals from a reasonable distance, which is why the military always uses fiber outside of shielded environments. At least when sensitive data is expected to travel along the pipes.

    The most obvious way to test this is to place an ordinary FM radio antenna along the network wire and see how much junk you are picking up; you can clearly hear the intensity of the network traffic.

    I heard this traffic when sitting in my car in the company parking lot at one of my previous jobs and so knew when the builds were done.

    Granted, the equipment is fairly expensive, but don't think for a second that you're safe because you're wired. Wires leak like hell.

    1. Re:Not true - wires leak like hell by ajs318 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Um, you know, you could be right with that one, especially since I upgraded from thin co-ax to Cat5. Although I thought the twisted pairs had some sort of a shielding effect. And also, most of my kit seems to give off plenty of RF noise, so maybe that helps to mask it.

      An ordinary radio set gives only a qualitative estimate. To recover the actual data, you'd need equipment costing more than any of my data is worth {but I wouldn't put it past the M.I.B. to sue me for wasting their time with junk data}. You'd also probably need to be inside my house {which is usually occupied, due to become occupied soon, or locked} and near the actual segment carrying the data; and, since the ADSL connection goes off into who knows where, that would probably be the easier target.

      Also, the military deliberately go overboard on security so as in order to make people think things are less secure than they really are. Overkill is just part of the theatre: it makes the top brass feel important, and it cultivates insecurity among the lower ranks.

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    2. Re:Not true - wires leak like hell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      > Although I thought the twisted pairs had some sort of a shielding effect.

      Maybe a little, but what do you think the U in UTP stands for?

    3. Re:Not true - wires leak like hell by ajs318 · · Score: 1

      Unshielded Twisted Pair. But the idea is that whenever one wire goes up from 0V to 5V {putting out a pulse of RF}, the other goes down from 5V to 0V {putting out an equal and opposite pulse of RF} so the two should cancel one another out, as long as the wires remain in intimate proximity.

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    4. Re:Not true - wires leak like hell by ashitaka · · Score: 1

      ...as long as the wires remain in intimate proximity.

      We had one of our network-connected copiers start sending copious amount of garbage data through the network. When we went to take a look at it we had found that a cleaner had uncovered the network cable and run over it with a vacuum.

      The outside cover had been torn completely off and the internal wires were definitely not in "intimate proximity".

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    5. Re:Not true - wires leak like hell by ajs318 · · Score: 1

      Which just goes to support my theory that anything, no matter how outrageous, will work -- just so long as nobody points out a reason why it shouldn't.

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  30. So does that make it ... by Darken_Everseek · · Score: 1

    Warphoning? Grossly overused prefix, but I'm surprised no one else has mentioned it.

    I wonder how long it takes before people using voice dial find themselves calling Elbonia..

    1. Re:So does that make it ... by MrFreshly · · Score: 1

      Because, WarpHoning is all about tweaking your warp drive...Has nothing to do with phones...

  31. It's bad implementation, not specification by rassie · · Score: 3, Informative

    If nothing has changed since AL Digital released the it on bugtraq, then the most serious issues only affect phones that have previously been paired with the attacking Bluetooth device.

    This means that you have to have given the attacker access to privileged services at one point in time, and then deleted him.

    If you had not deleted him, he would obviously still have access.

    But it is the missing deletion that is the problem.

    You should not pair your device with any devices except your own. Your PDA requires to be paired with your Phone, Laptop, and access point, so it can dial up, synch, and have LAN access etc. But you don't have to pair it to send your business card to somebody else. There is no reason to pair with Joe Hackers device. So for most of the cases described by AL Digital it is just a bad implementation which does not affect the majority of users.

    For the rest of the cases it is also a bad implementation by Nokia and "possibly other manufacturers", it is not a vulnerability in the protocol.

  32. MOD PARENT DOWN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    -1 Irritating Luddite. -1 Shut your stupid piehole. -1 Opinionated asshat. -1 Nobody cares what you think.

    1. Re:MOD PARENT DOWN by Deraj+DeZine · · Score: 1

      Actually, you're still at Score: 0. But I'm sure the moderators would thank you for the hints on rating your post.

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  33. From the article... by ErnstKompressor · · Score: 2, Informative
    According to the AL Digital's bluestumblerWeb site, vulnerable phones include: Ericsson T68; Sony Ericsson R520m, T68i, T610 andZ1010; andNokia 6310, 6310i, 7650, 8910 and 8910i.


    Well that is just about all of the bluetooth phones out there then?

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    1. Re:From the article... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...no.

  34. n-gage seems safe by fabio · · Score: 0

    i got the n-gage (Cmon hate me) and its got a turn off bluetooth function, whenever there are bluetooth activity, the little bluetooth icon changes

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  35. Bluetooth and the Nokia 6310i by PeeAitchPee · · Score: 1

    If you Google for the above, you'll find that Nokia's implementation of Bluetooth on this phone has been absolutely horrendous. Nokia is phasing out / has phased out the 6310i in the US and I managed to snag one on closeout at the AT & T Wireless Store for $29.95! I picked it because it had Bluetooth and because it was also the only US-sold phone that worked with a very cool car stereo handsfree kit made by Alpine (integrated Caller ID on the radio display, etc.) But apparently their implementation of Bluetooth only works with the Nokia Bluetooth Adapter (which of course costs twice as much as "generic" adapters like my D-Link). So I called the Nokia service center and arranged to send my phone in to get the firmware updated. I got it back about a week and a half later, and although they had updated the firmware the Bluetooth connection between my PC and the phone *still* wouldn't hold when trying to start up the Nokia PC Suite software! I gave up, bought the serial cable for $15 on eBay and had my contacts synced to my phone inside of 10 minutes. Other than the (lack of) Bluetooth support, I love the phone. The battery life is especially outstanding, and since they've started to phase it out, you can pick up the accessories on eBay for very cheap.

    1. Re:Bluetooth and the Nokia 6310i by kartel1 · · Score: 1

      I got the firmware upgraded on my 6310i phone to the latest version, and bluetooth works great!

  36. that explains why... by TR0GD0RtheBURNiNAT0R · · Score: 1

    ...Whenever I try to open a text message from a friend, I get some message trying to sell me cheap Viagra knockoffs...

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  37. How is your 6310? by ashitaka · · Score: 1

    I'm considering getting one as a package with a Palm T3.

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  38. A "Microsoft" -like reply from Nokia by ryen · · Score: 1, Funny

    Dear Nokia customers,
    Due to the latest security problems involving our phones and Bluetooh, we recommend you write your complete address book and contacts on a piece of paper and store it in a safe place. Also, since our phones explode it is best that you stay more than 10 feet away from them at all times. This will ensure both safety of your information on the phone and yourself.

  39. well.... by wdavies · · Score: 1

    well as soon as I can get a "normal" (1) phone with Bluetooth out here in the States, I'll worry about it.

    Winton

    (1) Normal -> one with out a 15" color screen, video camera and gamepad attached.

  40. What's a non-software product these days? by runlvl0 · · Score: 1

    Kind of makes you glad recalls of non-software products don't work the same way.

    Like a cell phone, or something. (Which, of course, was probably your point.)

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  41. Try this by stere0 · · Score: 2, Informative

    PhoneManager claims it can transfer contacts to/from a 6310i using bluetooth. It doesn't work without a cable for my non-i 6310 so I haven't tested it.

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    1. Re:Try this by singleantler · · Score: 1

      Thanks - great link (sorry I didn't reply earlier.)

      It doesn't seem to greatly like my BT dongle, but I'll keep fiddling as it does exactly what I need.

      Thanks

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  42. OMG, not another flamewar! [Was: Re:K.I.S.S] by I.+M.+Bur · · Score: 1

    You sure don't need emacs with this MS-DOS editor ;-]

  43. Sony Ericsson models vulnerable, as well as Nokias by LandGator · · Score: 1

    Submitted yesterday to Slashdot at 1200 PST, filed in a locked cabinet in the basement lavatory with a sign stating "BEWARE OF THE LEOPARD" was this posting:
    http://groups.google.com/groups?&selm=40 27ef9a.155 09562%40news.individual.de

    AL Digital
    http://www.aldigital.co.uk/
    announced Nokia 6310, 8910 and 8910i mobiles were found to be at greatest risk to having their data copied without the owner's consent with a crack attack over Bluetooth.

    The security papers (links, below) suggest keeping some other models of Bluetooth-capable mobiles 'invisible' to other devices may prevent data within the phone from being copied with a 'SNARF attack.' At worst, ony the data within the phone itself could be abducted, so if you don't keep data in it, and instead keep data within a PDA or notebook, the risk to you is low.

    Yeah, welcome to the 21st century.

    However, the authors apparantly got the brush from Sony-Ericsson, Nokia and the Bluetooth standards body when they raised the issue, so further
    attention seems merited.

    http://www.commsdesign.com/showArticle.jhtml?art ic leID=17601809
    http://www.bluestumbler.org/

    The latter URL has a number of references and leads to web pages for the cracking software cited, and it looks like AL Digital may have done their homework.

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  44. Proofs of concept.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The article strikes me as being somewhat sensationalist, not least because of the so-called proof of concept tools mentioned. Asking a hub to perform a scan for the information gathered by "bluestumbler" is trivial. It has to be, because that is exactly what all those 'scan for devices' apps do anyway. Similarly "bluebrowse" sounds like nothing more than sdptool, an app which browses for services on local devices. Again, your phone is capable of doing this so I can't help but wonder what l33t secrets methods this could possibly employ. As for the ability to discover non-discoverable devices, this is based on a referenced paper for the Red Fang tool, as far as one can see, which is essentially about using a brute force attack against the last 6 bits of the local device addresses. This does in fact appear to work as claimed, because even an invisible device will respond if addressed by name (and so they should). However, attacks can take up to 11 hours it seems, by which time one might be expected to have noticed the geek with the laptop who's been following you around all day trying to pwn your business card.
    Yes, there are going to be some vulnerabilities somewhere in the protocol, but nothing presented here seems to demonstrate that, only that some manufacturers have implemented the protocol badly, but hey, what's new there? -I personally have great fun pushing notes to T610 owners telling them they've been hacked.
    Overall bluetooth is pretty secure, and version 1.2 will be stronger yet. Yet from these comparatively minor glitches in the implementations in mobile phones, they seem intent on making it out to be a condemnation of the entire bluetooth standard.

    The article was alarmist, and such problems as there are are not worth turning off your bluetooth for, as A.L security seem to recommend. I'd go so far as to say that this is little more than a young securtiy startup company trying to get some attention with a little scarmongering.

    mike_c

  45. interesting and working! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... i like this kind of news. Then you hit the bluekey and bang! my neighbor's right there to f00l in 123 - just gotta wait now...
    I Always have a nice time on slashdot.

  46. OwN3D ??? by tdhdeep · · Score: 1

    Damn it... What the hell does this mean ?
    U R OwN3D - R00t
    This is what my poor Nokia has been displaying for the past four days :(

  47. nokia has any vulnerabilities? by mr.+spike+2 · · Score: 1

    nokia handsets have any vulnerabilities?? What a surprise! Wake me when Motorolas will have any.

    For all the history all of Nokia hardware, both wireless radiolinks and consumer electronics, was ultracrappy and vulnerable to anything, even failing when not in use :)

    Just avoid buying crappy things, and will be in safety.

    To those who want to argue - buy ms windows, get on ms .NET, use outlook and explorer and acess your Nokia and pocket pc trough ms briefcase-synchronise-alike tools. All of the mentioned things have proven to be 100% unreliable, vulnerable, clumsy and sometimes dangerous to business of safety/health.