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A Law Show Set 25 Years from Now

aaron240 writes "CBS will be airing a pilot of a new show called 'Century City' tonight, Tuesday, March 16th. CNN has the story. The executive producer, Ed Zuckerman, had this to say about the future state of the law in America: 'Our future is a positive future. We assume that things are basically going to get better, progress will continue,' Zuckerman says. 'There will be problems -- new inventions, new technologies will bring with them difficulties -- but it's a bright future.' He also makes it clear that 'This is not a 'Blade Runner''. Is there any chance it will offer a decent treatment of the issues Open Source advocates worry about today? If he's so positive, could he possibly know anything about software patents to say nothing of SCO?"

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  1. Not ANOTHER law show? by andyrut · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This might turn out to be a great show. But really, there's already a glut of legal shows on television (The Practice, Judging Amy, JAG, etc.), and using a gimmick like setting it in the future won't attract me to it.

    Is there any chance it will offer a decent treatment of the issues Open Source advocates worry about today? If he's so positive, could he possibly know anything about software patents to say nothing of SCO?

    Don't expect it to even come close to issues important to us nerds.

    There's just something lacking in a show that focuses on such riveting legal issues as "should a player with a super-accurate bionic eye be allowed to play professional baseball?" Really, this is an actual plot line that will be in "Century City."

    1. Re:Not ANOTHER law show? by DonnieD701 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Won't this just end up like every other show about lawyers? Sex, Lies, and more sex..

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    2. Re:Not ANOTHER law show? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's a logical extension of current issues like "Should players be allowed to chemically enhance their bodies?"

      You may not be interested in sports, but I am, and I'd be curious to see how they argue it, pro and con.

      Too bad I don't have a TV anymore.

    3. Re:Not ANOTHER law show? by somethinghollow · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Not to mention that a show about OSS would be more boring to the general public than any given APT show (note: I said GENERAL public, which might not be YOU). OSS just isn't good entertainment unless 1) it's real and 2) you're a geek. Hell, I wouldn't watch it. Speculating about the future of OSS would be pointless. Things that adhere to evolution via demands (as OSS projects do) don't always stick to a plan.

    4. Re:Not ANOTHER law show? by Zordak · · Score: 5, Funny

      No, I'm betting it gets cancelled before it has a chance to get that far. I've seen the previews, and for the most part, it just looks silly and contrived. Sort of like "The Practice" spent a steamy night in a seedy motel with "Minority Report," and this was the unhappy result.

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    5. Re:Not ANOTHER law show? by Rosyna · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well, it is obvious that I won't be watching it tonight. A new episode of Scrubs is on at the same time that deals with causality and the chaos theory. A subject much more interesting to me.

    6. Re:Not ANOTHER law show? by LostCluster · · Score: 4, Funny

      Let's face it, Minority Report had some great vision-of-future-tech bits with an absolutely lame story. Maybe there is something interesting in the daily civil lawsuit during that time frame...

    7. Re:Not ANOTHER law show? by GAVollink · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That's what you get when you take a ~45 page Philip K. Dick short story and try to turn it into a feature film. Same problem that you have with 'Paycheck', way to much filler for the producer to over-produce.

    8. Re:Not ANOTHER law show? by corbettw · · Score: 4, Funny

      Well, it is obvious that I won't be watching it tonight. A new episode of Scrubs is on at the same time that deals with causality and the chaos theory. A subject much more interesting to me.

      Scrubs has plots? I thought it was just a vehicle for watching Sarah Chalke occasionally flash her bra. At least, that's why I watch it.

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    9. Re:Not ANOTHER law show? by TRACK-YOUR-POSITION · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Remove the last S from OSS. Sure, whether I can construct my own OS or web browser in the future is completely boring. But start applying Open Source to hardware--can I construct my own robot? My own von Neuman machine robot? My own nanomachines? Can I genetically engineer my own pets? Can I synthesize my own medicine? My own drugs? Really, making it a legal drama kind of presupposes an answer to all of these questions: "only if the government says you can." Which is why Century City sounds boring to me--by dissing "Blade Runner", it cuts itself off from a vast world if illicit technology.

    10. Re:Not ANOTHER law show? by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Better be ruled by lawyers than by police.

    11. Re:Not ANOTHER law show? by retendo · · Score: 2, Informative

      Plus do we really want SCO to be an issue 25 years from now?


      I'm hoping they go away a lot sooner than that.....

    12. Re:Not ANOTHER law show? by kettch · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It'll probably be like some of the other shows that I started to watch. Whether they are lawyer shows, medical shows, or whatever. They start out dealing with interesting topics/situations. However, at some point the characters start having a personal life. They start banging other characters. Then they start banging clients. Then the show starts bringing in a new outrageous guest star every week. Then they start swapping new characters in every month.
      Another thing they do is to do "ripped from the headlines" plots. And since it takes months for a show to go through production and actually make it to TV, I never remember what the hell they are talking about.

      I hate TV

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    13. Re:Not ANOTHER law show? by uncoveror · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I am curious. If everyone hates lawyers, why do so many people watch all the shows about them?

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    14. Re:Not ANOTHER law show? by macdaddy357 · · Score: 3, Funny

      This show looks like a bunch of crap. The future isn't going to be shiny and polished like Star Trek. You want to know how law will be in the future? Two men enter. One man leaves. Bust a deal, face the wheel.

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    15. Re:Not ANOTHER law show? by Mac+Scientist · · Score: 3, Insightful
      There's just something lacking in a show that focuses on such riveting legal issues as "should a player with a super-accurate bionic eye be allowed to play professional baseball?"

      By taking place in the future, it might free up the writiers to deal with touchy issues of the present, without treading on someone's toes (think Murphy Brown, Dan Quail, and unwed motherhood). Looks like they already have some, but here's a few future issues that could spark some controversy:

      human cloning for disease treatment vs longevity

      computer graphic use of the dead and famous in movies and commercials

      undetectable computer doctoring of photos and recordings in news reporting

      competition in sports between normal and physiologically enhanced players

      undetectable biologically induced physical enhancement

      advanced math methods in accounting to artificially increase earnings

      Wait, I think I've seen these somewhere before...

    16. Re:Not ANOTHER law show? by Minna+Kirai · · Score: 2, Interesting

      they're told to go stuff themselves.

      No, they're given one episode per season where the permanent cast is allowed to temporarily become interesting. On one single day, one cop's wife gets cancer, the other's daughter is murdered, one lawyer is tried for ethics violations, and the other is voted out of office...

    17. Re:Not ANOTHER law show? by wash23 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Minority Report (the Philip K. Dick short story) is an excellent story with some absolutely lame vision-of-the-future-tech bits. I think that's the hollywood formula though; s/story/action-FX/g. Read Philip K. Dick.

  2. First Episode of New Law Show by Tongue+In+A+Box · · Score: 5, Funny

    Microsoft is currently appealing the latest decision orcing them to break apart...details in the next law show set 25 years ahead of this one.

  3. Call me crazy, by Mike+the+Mac+Geek · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But I think this will be more along the lines of family law, divorces, and criminal defense rather than copyright law, etc.

    Not too many people find copyright law and open source law rulings terribly entertaining.

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    1. Re:Call me crazy, by millahtime · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well at the rate we are going there will be something like a 90% divorce rate, sex and drugs will be rampant, athletes will be cyborgs. I mean will there really be families as we know it?? Will marriage even be something really??? It's going to be law meets star trek meets larry flint.

  4. C'mon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful
    "a legal drama set in the year 2030, where the lawyers find that though laws change, people remain the same."

    Does that sound like something that would discuss issues like software licenses? No, it sounds like a legal soap opera. I don't think this will outlast a season.

  5. Great! I know some cases they will work on! by ScottGant · · Score: 4, Funny

    They'll STILL be waiting for SCO to tell us which code is in violation.

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  6. Show within the show by raider_red · · Score: 4, Funny

    One of the features of the show will be the premiere of the 256th Law and Order spinoff: "Law And Order: Illegal Cloning Investigation Unit".

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    1. Re:Show within the show by deniable · · Score: 2, Funny

      Nah, that's Law and Order: SUV.

    2. Re:Show within the show by raider_red · · Score: 2, Funny

      And that leads to the 257th spinoff: "Law and Order: Bad Beowulf Cluster, Natalie Portman, and In Soviet Russia Joke Investigation Unit"

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    3. Re:Show within the show by cr0sh · · Score: 2, Funny
      What about the ultimate L&O:

      "Law and Order: Extreme International Emergency Investigation Organization"

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  7. neat idea, but... by JeffSh · · Score: 4, Interesting

    here's the pilot info:

    A young boy's father wants the right to use the boy's genetic embryo clone to develop a baby who could donate a portion of his liver to save him. The firm also takes on the case of a boy band that is suing its lead singer for not adhering to his contract to keep up his physical appearance.

    It doesn't look like they are going to tbe dealing with technology very much/not at all.

    moreover, it looks like the 2 issues they picked for their pilot are both things that don't require much foresight to envision, not to mention that the clone thing should happen alot sooner then 25 yrs..

    1. Re:neat idea, but... by elflet · · Score: 2, Insightful
      The core of a good science fiction story lies in the people, not the technology. Theodore Sturgeon defined it wonderfully: "A science fiction story is a story built around human beings, with a human problem and a human solution, which would not have happened at all without its scientific content."

      He's not alone in this belief -- peruse the Definitions of "Science Fiction" page and you'll see the same sentiment echoed by many successful authors (e.g. Ray Bradbury: Science fiction is really sociological studies of the future, things that the writer believes are going to happen by putting two and two together.)

      As for the rest of the show, I think they're being conservative -- it's all pretty much straight-line extrapolations, nothing really radical.

    2. Re:neat idea, but... by fermion · · Score: 3, Insightful
      These are the enduring issues of technology. All the computer stuff we are going through is just a phase. Few other than historians will remeber or care. How many of you know there was a tiny part of the steam engine that had significant effects on the course of history due to it's legal ambiguity? How many of you talk about the technological wonder of a shovel or sewage pipes even though both of these had profound effects on the course of civilization. Does anyone even think of tube television as a technological marvel?

      These two issues are important. There are physical appearance clauses in contacts. As medical technology advances, those clauses will likely become more stringant. Television has dealt with these clauses, for instance in Murphy Brown. I suspect that we will also see cases where athletes are required to take certain drugs, perhaps even in middle school.

      And cloning is on everyones mind. Even if we never have a situation where a human is cloned for harvesting, the purpose of sci-fi is to create a dialogue about the issues so we have some understanding of the key points before a crisis situation develops.

      I think the coolest technological plot would be a kid wanted to get a computer implant, but the school rules forbid it. Believe it. It will happen.

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  8. Man science moves fast... by Godeke · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I find the timeline a bit aggressive. Supposedly set in 2030, the issues at hand seem more in line for maybe 2070 or beyond. Not to belittle the advances of the last 25 years (all hail the microwave) but twenty five years ago was not that *radically* different from today.

    Perhaps the date was chosen to avoid appearing to be "too much like science fiction", but I must express my doubts that LA will have maglev monorails and all cars will be fuel cell powered by then. The death of paper seems even more unlikely, as does robotic kitchens.

    Aw, who am I kidding: 1950's scientific optimism plus the moral dilemmas of progress... I may actually watch this just to see if it is ham fisted or actually well thought out.

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    1. Re:Man science moves fast... by mattkime · · Score: 4, Funny

      twenty five years ago was not that *radically* different from today.

      I beg to differ.

      There was no slashdot.

      I mean really, what did people do at work back then?

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    2. Re:Man science moves fast... by Matey-O · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You're kidding, right? In 1988, I had _7_ casettes and 3 or 4 records...my iPod has over 200 albums worth of content and it's 25% of my (legal) collection. The surest way to get predicting the future is to TRY to predict the future. Ya think Back to the future part II was over the top when it failed to predict disposeable cellphones, electric paper, and MEMS? (all of which are really here now.)

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    3. Re:Man science moves fast... by IronBlade · · Score: 5, Insightful
      but I must express my doubts that LA will have maglev monorails and all cars will be fuel cell powered by then.

      Well, if the site I link to is any indication, then the cars will have to run on something other than petroleum products.
      Would be interesting to see if the coming energy crisis will be covered at all...
      Somehow, I doubt it, as ignorance (and/or denial) is bliss...

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    4. Re:Man science moves fast... by Joe+the+Lesser · · Score: 2, Funny

      Actual work? *shudder*

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    5. Re:Man science moves fast... by kfg · · Score: 2, Interesting

      From 1900 to 1925 was significant.

      From 1925 to 1950 was significant.

      From 1950 to 1975 was significant, and I remember most of it.

      From 1980 to now has been the most technologically boring period since Newton. There has been some evolution, but other than personal computers and the internet it's mostly an evolution of mature technologies. My stereo is 25 years old and there's no reason to replace it. If I took you for a ride blindfolded in a 1980 car and a new car you couldn't tell which was which.

      While in some repects, being a technologist, I have much higher tech around my house than most, I live much lower tech than the average janitor, and yet, walking through my house, a good deal of the technology, even that in my bicycle, didn't really exist 100+ years ago.

      All of it existed 25 years ago, although perhaps in nascent form, like the net, which I first bumped into circa 1976.

      The 80s sucked. They've kept on sucking and we live in their vacuum.

      KFG

    6. Re:Man science moves fast... by Godeke · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Ok... I'm just picking this one to answer at random. Yes, I *am* saying not radically different. Now I admit that 25 years ago I was 10, so my perspective is skewed perhaps, but all the things you describe seem pretty minor.

      I remember at that point having HBO (granted, it was beamed instead of cable), mobile phones (granted, attached to cars for power) and a Vic 20 (granted with 8K of ram, of which half was already consumed). I even had digital music on my Vic 20. Most of your examples are communications improvements, but I seem to remember dialing into BBSes at 300 Baud and doing a very blocky version of what I'm doing right now. Changes in scale and speed are assumed in technology over time, but it seems like all the *major* inventions were completed in the early 1900s, and all we have done is improve them since.

      I guess I'm jaded or something. Where is the modern equivalent of the invention of flight, the first man on the moon, the explosion of household technologies of the first half of the 1900s? Yeah, my internet connection is *better* than my 300 baud modem, but it isn't a flying car (which I'm still promised, but have no expectation of ever seeing).

      This show on the other hand seems to postulate (at least via it's website) that we will perfect everything that we have in development now, 13 hours in the future. Which was fine for Max Headroom, and could make for interesting hypothetical legal issues, but seems agressive to me.

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    7. Re:Man science moves fast... by Beryllium+Sphere(tm) · · Score: 2, Insightful

      >twenty five years ago was not that *radically* different from today.

      25 years ago people were changing typewriter ribbons. Music came on huge fragile disks that wore out a little each time you played one. Research was something you did in a library during hours when the library was open.

      I have a car from that era. There are five transistors in the entire car, and all of them are in the radio. My other car is an internetwork which treats the engine, the electric motor/generators, the battery pack and me as peripherals.

      If your car broke down, you had to wait for someone to stop and help. No calling AAA from your car unless you were very rich.

      Today's Google News includes headlines like "Symantec Details Net Threats", Congress is discussing how to regulate human cloning, and in a couple of hours I'll inject a genetically engineered medicine into my wife's cat.

      One old-school sf personality reminded writers that even if men were flying radium-powered spaceships, they'd still be smoking Luckys and be in the doghouse with their wives. Today they have to go outside if they smoke at all, and their wives may be flying the spaceships.

      Pick up Spider Robinson's story "The Time Traveler" for perspective on how the world can get unrecognizable in a single decade.

  9. Canadian law show in the present - A HIT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This is Wonderland is a new CBC show that is genuinely funny, and a great drama too. It is by far the best new Law show I've seen, and is better than Law and Order SVU, although it covers similar turf with some of it's cases.

    One problem with legal shows, is that they are 95% of the time, based in the USA, and so don't have Crown Attourneys, and other Canadian twists.

    I'm too young to remember the Street Legal days, but this is one series that I hope lasts as long, and catches on. It is very entertaining.

    1. Re:Canadian law show in the present - A HIT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This is Wonderland offical website.

      Last week a prostitute was aquitted for the more serious charge of sexual interference with a minor, a 13 year old boy in his hospital bed, because he lied about his age. In Canada, the age of consent is 14, and the show took a jab at American TV which mis-informs Canadian youth about the age of consent.

  10. The next craze in programming... by adamgreenfield · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This article seems pretty well centered around Hector Elizondo, however this show could be pretty interesting. I'll try to catch the first episode this evening, however I really hope this isn't the next Law and Order style courtroom drama. I'm much more apt to waste some time watching a CSI style show anyday.
    Seems like cop/courtroom drama is the next reality TV... CBS was definatly all over that (read: Survivor)

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  11. Things to come. by C10H14N2 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Pity Leni Riefenstahl isn't around to consult on such positive outlooks of the future.

  12. Why would he care about sco or anything like that? by upstart1234 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why would someone doing a tv show about law in the future really give a damn about the issues with SCO or anything about Open Source. Please people do you really think anyone out in the world but us (ie the slashdot crowd) gives a rat ass about these things?

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  13. Not everyone thinks this is positive by klipsch_gmx · · Score: 3, Informative

    Kay McFadden is a respected TV show reviewer in the Seattle and had this to say, among other things:

    "The stories tend to lean on loopholes -- cases and laws post-dating 2004. By any entertainment standards, the writers do a middling job of courtroom preparation and a really bad one with soap-opera histrionics.

    At the end of tonight's episode, the verdict is clear: "Century City" is an argument against the kind of research that leads networks to mindless replication. Just say no to cloning."

    1. Re:Not everyone thinks this is positive by nomadic · · Score: 3, Insightful

      In other words they do to law what Star Trek did to physics. That's what turned me off of the various Trek series; they invented fake science to solve fake scientific problems, and expected us to care.

      "You honor, we plead cybernetic estoppel."

    2. Re:Not everyone thinks this is positive by nomadic · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The stories should be fictional. The law shouldn't be. It's called deus ex machina, and it's the last resort of the unimaginative writer.

  14. Knowledge of the future... by weeboo0104 · · Score: 2, Funny

    If he's so positive, could he possibly know anything about software patents to say nothing of SCO?"

    Of course. SCO will not exist 25 years from now. Any reference made will simply be "SC-Who?"

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  15. Didn't we already settle this issue? by El · · Score: 5, Funny

    should a player with a super-accurate bionic eye be allowed to play professional baseball? Should women with breast implants be allowed to compete in wet T-shirt contests?

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    1. Re:Didn't we already settle this issue? by DShard · · Score: 5, Funny

      Conversely, should women who don't have implants get points deducted for lack of dedication to their sport.

    2. Re:Didn't we already settle this issue? by GrayWizard · · Score: 5, Funny

      To quote Futurama's Miss Universe Contest rule:
      Contestants must not exceed 50% implant.

  16. OSS? by NineNine · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Can somebody please explain to me what OSS has to do with a futuristic law show? I swear, I expect any day to see a story on something even *more* inane, such as a new color for Pepsi, and somehow, /. is going to relate that to OSS. There really IS more to life than OSS, people! Hell, there's a LOT more to *geek* life than OSS!

  17. So that's where my students will be working by jezor · · Score: 2, Interesting

    As someone who runs a business and technology law institute at Touro Law Center in Huntington, NY, I'm really looking forward to this show. Yes, it'll be soapy, and no, it won't go into the issues discussed on Slashdot, but I am tickled by the thought that someone is projecting out the other kinds of legal questions that may come up for my students, tomorrow's tech-savvy lawyers. But hey -- no law show ever showed licensing or similar lawyers; negotations over ownership provisions ("Work Made for Hire!" "No, Limited License!") or warranties and representations never make for good television. {Professor Jonathan}

  18. Is somebody a wee bit obsessed with SCO? by CheeseTroll · · Score: 2, Insightful
    If he's so positive, could he possibly know anything about software patents to say nothing of SCO?

    Somebody didn't read the "Important Stuff" about posting, namely "Please try to keep posts on topic."

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  19. Might be worth it for the effects alone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Zoic, the effects house behind Firefly and Battlestar Galactica are doing the effects for this one so it should have some neat visuals... if nothing else

  20. mmm sci-fi lawyers by Telastyn · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Actually, I think if they made it a sci-fi show rather than a lawyer show it would be fantastic. When I say sci-fi I mean proper cautionary tale sci-fi. It would be a great way to explore future legal ideas and even some current legal issues should they not be overturned [or not implimented in some cases]. It won't be though I bet. It will be the same things that have been covered before and better by other sources. Only now it's in the prime time, and will be dumbed down to make sure nobody gets lost.

  21. Re:Bright Future? by AuMatar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    While I don't disagree that women should be able to vote anywhere, exactly why do you think that will reduce war? We've had more wars in the US in the past century with women voting than in the century before without.

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  22. Well by Operating+Thetan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is not a 'Blade Runner'

    Well done. Blade Runner is well written, original and high quality. This is network sci fi/law drama, respectively the worst written* and the most overused of TV drama settings

    *Some of it may be good, but for every Star Trek or Babylon 5 there are 2 Milleniums or Space:Above and Beyonds

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    1. Re:Well by Osty · · Score: 2, Insightful

      *Some of it may be good, but for every Star Trek or Babylon 5 there are 2 Milleniums or Space:Above and Beyonds

      Hey, now! Space: Above and Beyond was 1000x's better than any of the Star Trek crap since TNG (and even then, I'd still have to call S:AaB better).


      Also, you're focusing on the wrong points. This is not going to be a sci fi show with lawyering thrown in. It's a lawyer show that just happens to be set in the near future. Whether or not that makes it any better, I don't know. However, that puts it more in the class of The Practice, Law and Order, and maybe even Ally McBeal (depending on the comedy quotient) rather than Star Trek, Babylon 5, and Space: Above and Beyond.

    2. Re:Well by cardshark2001 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Well.... Good thing I have karma to burn because here it goes...

      *Some of it may be good, but for every Star Trek or Babylon 5 there are 2 Milleniums or Space:Above and Beyonds

      Can you really hold up Star Trek and Babylon 5 as examples of good science fiction? I admit that I enjoyed some Star Trek every now and then, but it was totally space opera, they so rarely had interesting, original science fiction concepts that when they did it was a cause for celebration. Maybe I never gave B5 a chance, but the few times I tried to watch it I had to change the channel because it was so formulaic.

      Do you read science fiction?

      For my money, Firefly was the best science fiction show ever. They tried to be fairly scientific at the same time as telling a story, and the characters and places were so much more real to me. The captain was a real man, who made hard decisions and sometimes may even have been a little unfair, manipulative, and vicious. The ship was not some federation of goodie goodies, but a crew of outcasts and criminals just trying to get by. There was a huge story arc that was slowly being revealed (two by two, the men in blue).

      Sure, much of it was stuff that science fiction literature has seen before, but as far as tv goes, it was amazingly original, and they even had some nice little touches that I've never read (the "crazy Ivan" maneuver with the ship, the "reavers").

      They never insulted my intelligence with loud explosions in space, or impossible physics (ships making crazy zig-zags as though through an atmosphere).

      Thank goodness they're making a movie (although since the show got cancelled, I don't quite understand how this got funded).

      My $0.02.

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  23. The Right to Read by GillBates0 · · Score: 3, Informative
    This is a good time to catch up on RMS's essay titled theThe Right to Read. gnu.org seems to be down right now, so here's the google cache link.

    This is a must read for anybody worried about patent_laws/copyright_laws/DRM/DMCA/etc. It outlines a future scenario where a student can face imprisonment for sharing/borrowing books/software which she could not afford.

    There was a time when one would've considered this scenario farfeteched. With the new draconian laws, unfortunately it doesn't seem so anymore. A *must read* for any concerned Slashdotter AND to these folks trying to paint a BRIGHT picture for the current legislative system.

    Quotes:
    For Dan Halbert, the road to Tycho began in college--when Lissa Lenz asked to borrow his computer. Hers had broken down, and unless she could borrow another, she would fail her midterm project. There was no one she dared ask, except Dan. This put Dan in a dilemma. He had to help her--but if he lent her his computer, she might read his books. Aside from the fact that you could go to prison for many years for letting someone else read your books, the very idea shocked him at first. Like everyone, he had been taught since elementary school that sharing books was nasty and wrong--something that only pirates would do.

    ---snip--

    Later on, Dan would learn there was a time when anyone could go to the library and read journal articles, and even books, without having to pay. There were independent scholars who read thousands of pages without government library grants. But in the 1990s, both commercial and nonprofit journal publishers had begun charging fees for access. By 2047, libraries offering free public access to scholarly literature were a dim memory.

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    An Indian-American Hindu committed to non-violent thought/speech/action alarmed by the global explosion of radical Islam
  24. Things are gonna get better? by dfenstrate · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Begin Rant
    Our future is a positive future. We assume that things are basically going to get better, progress will continue,' Zuckerman says. 'There will be problems -- new inventions, new technologies will bring with them difficulties -- but it's a bright future.'

    You know one huge improvement in our lives that this show likely won't consider? Erasing every single law on the books every 5-10 years.

    Does anyone find it odd that we have to live, for fear of imprisonment, under a set of laws and regulations so conflicting, non-intuitive, and complex, that one needs a 6 year education to begin to understand the law?

    Need an example? Look at Martha Stewart, soon to be imprisoned for basically lying to cops about a crime they couldn't prove she did anyway. Over an amount of money that was a fraction of what it probably cost to prosecute her. And she wasn't under oath. I care nothing about Martha Stewart personally, but the scenario stinks to me.

    The US Code is hundreds of thousands of pages. Most of it is rot, laws set by legislatures to grant special priveleges to certain constituencies- or a sketchy, contrived delegation of Congress' lawmaking power- The EPA, anyone?- that we could dispense with and make the country a better place. I doubt anyone can go a full year without breaking a good half dozen laws, even with the best intentions.

    So many laws and regulations could only come from a body who is deluded into thinking that the cure to any percieved societal ill is even more government. I suppose I can't blame them too much- when the only tool you have is a hammer, everything starts to look like a nail- but it's far past time to clean house.

    Oh yeah, another lawyer show- woo-fucking-hoo. No, I did not read the FA. /Rant

    Oh yeah, vote for me when I'm old enough to be a Senator, so I can try- likely in vain- to fix it. Thank you.

    --
    Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms should be the name of a store, not a government agency.
    1. Re:Things are gonna get better? by MBCook · · Score: 2, Insightful
      This is an idea I've heard before, and while it's not practicle, there is a good argument for making legislatures reconsider things every few years.

      Let's take social security. Today it's an entitlement. Everyone expects to have it and that it be run the way it always has. The problem is that when it was established, there were something like 50 people working for each person collecting SS. Today it's like 2 or 3 if that. But it's been done the same way so long that people are "entrenched" and will fight almost any change in the policies. They just want it "fixed" but don't want it "changed".

      Another example is health care. The US government provided tax deductions to companies after WWII if they provided health care to their employees. Now, companies are EXPECTED to provide health care, and everyone is "entitled" to it. If everyone didn't get their healthcare from their employers we'd have a free market which would mean better treatment, lower prices, etc. Self-employed people and people without jobs wouldn't have such a terrible time getting insurance and the rates wouldn't be so bad. We wouldn't have any of this HMO stuff (which is basically a move to make it cost your employer less).

      Basically the problem is that the governement often makes good laws, and then leaves them on the books WAY past the time when they meant anything untill they cause far more problems then they solve and are relativly impossible to fix. Look at any site of weird laws to see all the "people driving on a road must have a guy walk infornt of them with a lantern so the car won't scare the horses" type laws that mean nothing now.

      As for the show, I'll check it out. I don't expect much, but hopefully it will at least be somewhat entertaining. That it's entertaining enough to keep me from changing the channel is about all I expect from network TV these days considering how much of it is pure crud. Good shows seem quite rare, and it's even rarer that they survive their first (half) season or two.

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      Comment forecast: Bits of genius surrounded by a sea of mediocrity.
  25. What is Sci Fi? by GPLDAN · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I would feel better if the Sci Fi channel were handling this. A lot (not all) Sci Fi deals with social and political questions. The culmination of this, of course, is Dune. Dune deals in many ways with the British occupation of Afghanistan, and it resonates so soundly today it's frightening. Spice is oil.

    If I had the CBS writers in a room, I'm not sure what I'd pass out. heinlein, Herbert, Orsan Scott Card, and maybe Necromancer. All required reading even before you get to start the first script. Really good sci-fi, the kind of stuff that clearly understands and reflects history is very rare and very special. I'm going to go out on a limb here, and guess the people who pen the jokes on 'Everybody Loves Raymon' or the plots on 'CSI' are going to be up to the challenge of writing good sci-fi.

    1. Re:What is Sci Fi? by lrucker · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I would feel better if the Sci Fi channel were handling this.

      The same SciFi channel that's giving us "Scare Tactics", John Edward, and that "house of freaks" reality show?

  26. Law and Order, in the future! by Sylver+Dragon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Boy, the writters really had to dig deep fot this idea. Then again, this might just be a way for Hollywood to make everyone think that all the laws that they are buying are really good for the average citizen.
    I can see the episode already:
    *Two lawyers sitting in a cafe*
    Lawyer 1 : Well, looks like they finally broke up that piracy ring
    Lawyer 2 : Wow, I would have thought that with all of the consumer protection laws that were passed in the early 2000's that people would have given up trying to steal music.
    Lawyer 1: Nope, seems that some people never learn that piracy is bad. After all, its the reason the economy crahsed in 2010.
    Lawyer 2: Its a good thing that the Digital Rights Act of 2013 was passed. It was only by allowing the record labels the right to raid homes, and confiscate pirates computers that we managed to end that black time.
    Lawyer 1: Yes, and the extension of copyrights to 1000 years was just the right thing to do, afterall, the creators should be allowed to gain the benifits of thier work.
    Laywer 2: And don't forget about clearing up the whole problem with analog copies, allowing that to continue could have had seroius side effects.
    Lawyer 1: Yes, indeed. If only people had realized earlier that they have no right, or valid reason to make any copy, we might have avoided the whole crash of 2010.
    *break for commercial*

    Or maybe I'm just being cyical today.

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    Necessity is the mother of invention.
    Laziness is the father.
  27. Is there any chance... by 3Suns · · Score: 5, Informative
    Is there any chance it will offer a decent treatment of the issues Open Source advocates worry about today?
    I heard a radio ad for this show this morning. The quote was "Ma'am, is it true that you started a relationship with this man for the purpose of downloading his personality?"

    So I'd say, probably not. Sounds like more far-fetched, yet hackneyed sci-fi cliches inserted into Law&Order.
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    -3Suns

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  28. Sci-Fi Going Mainstream by DanTheLewis · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The thing I like about this, more than the premise of the show or its upbeat, Pollyanna tone, is that science fiction is now so mainstream that a lawyer show, at least exploring possibilities of technology and the pros and cons of an imaginary future, can be pitched to a network.

    Television and film have really only scratched the surface of the deep field that is science fiction. The future of the genre will be a thing of beauty to behold.

    --

    Q: What did the comedian say to the crowd?
    A: If I knew, this joke would be funny.
  29. One review article: by Greedo · · Score: 5, Informative

    From The Globe and Mail:

    Just imagine the pitch some scriptwriter must have delivered for the new series Century City (CBS, 9 p.m.): "Sexy lawyers in the future! And they're practising law!" It must have seemed a good idea at the time.

    Certainly, the network would like the show to become a breakaway ratings hit (not likely), but more likely, it's airing it because it's already spent the money.

    The show is set in a high-end L.A. law firm, circa 2030. The company is managed by a few salty old-schoolers, Hector Elizondo among them, and a few young upstarts, including the necessary young idealist (Welsh actor Ioan Gruffudd), best known from several turns as the lead in C. S. Forester's Horatio Hornblower on A&Eand wildly miscast here.

    The first episode veers between two cases customized and contrived to fit the futuristic format: A scientist (David Paymer) is arrested for cloning, although he was doing it only to save his son's life. A septuagenarian rock star (Anthony Zerbe) is sued by his band mates for refusing to undergo procedures to look young.

    Sad to report, the future looks pretty much the same as the present does, except with cleaner air and fancier laptops. There are a few advances: Pre-trial hearings are accomplished via holograms. Characters marvel about cherries without pits. But where are the moving sidewalks, the sassy robot maids and other conveniences promised to us by Alvin Toffler and The Jetsons?

    Nothing is exceptional about Century City, neither its concept nor its cast, made up largely of vaguely familiar TV faces, which includes a bit player from Suddenly Susan and a woman from Judging Amy. They are actors at a way station -- on the rebound from one show and on their way to the next.

    --
    Tuus crepidae innexilis sunt.
    1. Re:One review article: by fermion · · Score: 2, Funny

      The pitch was simple. Technology has made the females skinnier, the breasts bigger, and the hemlines higher, and the go go boots taller, not to mention the rubber tighter.

      --
      "She's a scientist and a lesbian. She's not going to let it slide." Orphan Black
    2. Re:One review article: by JimBobJoe · · Score: 2, Funny

      The show is set in a high-end L.A. law firm, circa 2030.

      Already the show is exceedingly unrealistic. No reasonable person would expect Southern California to be around in 2030.

  30. Bright future by frodo+from+middle+ea · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Our future is a positive future.
    Hopefully he is not saying this from a lawyer's perspective. Here is hoping 25 years from now, the law will have a LOT more common sense than it does now. here is hoping corporate america won't be able to use the law as means of terrorizing joe america.

    Here is hoping no 14 year kid gets sued and branded as a criminal for something as trieft as downloading a song or two. Here is hoping no one company can sue and lay claim on the product of hardwork of millions of developers across the globe.

    And finally here is hoping that the law and courts be used to settle much more pressing issues like corruption, and crime and not trivial issues like carving of some 10 commandments in front of the court.

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    for the last time people, I am "frodo from middle eaRTH", not "middle eaST".
  31. Pepsi kids by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 2, Funny
    So are they going to have an episode where they show a synopsis of all the kids who got busted by the RIAA that were on the pepsi commercial? It'll show a short summary of their lives after they stole music and where they are today. One of em is a crack whore on the street, another moved on to Grand Theft Auto after getting a taste of stealing from Kazaa, etc.

    I'm sure this show will be doubleplusgood.

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    Buy Steampunk Clothing Online!
  32. I nominate this comment for... by douglips · · Score: 3, Funny

    Most Obscure Example of Godwin's Law.

    Leni Riefenstahl

  33. Re:Bright Future? by orthogonal · · Score: 2, Funny

    Our future is a positive future. We assume that things are basically going to get better, progress will continue,' Zuckerman says....

    So the premise of ther show is that John Ashcroft, Jack Valenti, and RIAA President Cary Sherman are all abducted by aliens before they can repeal the 4th Amendment in favor of the "Copyright is a Boot in the Face Forever Act"?

  34. Re:Why would he care about sco or anything like th by ceejayoz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Hell, not even Slashdotters would watch it.

    Investigator: OH MY GOD! LINE FIVE IS STOLEN FROM MICRO-FORD-AOL-SOFT-WARNER!
    Software Pirate: Oh no. You have found me. I am in trouble.

    I mean, honestly, it's difficult to make something like that interesting viewing.

  35. Why only twenty-five years? by biendamon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm curious why the producers decided on such a short time span to cover. Sure, there will probably be some marvelous advances between now and then that will become publicly accepted and commonplace (and certainly there will be more gee-whiz toys available).

    But Do we really expect bionic eyes, cloned organ donors, and super-surgeries that keep you young to all show up in that time period?

    They might. It's possible. But I doubt it; For years science fiction has promised us smart highways, hover cars, and cyborg super-soldiers, all just around the corner. And none of those things have materialized yet.

    A hundred years from now, I'm sure things will be very different. But my guess is that 25 years from now will seem about as advanced as we would seem now to someone from 1979. There are still cars, there are still telephones, there are still televisions. There are even still computers. Everything's been refined and improved, but it's still recognizable as the same society. You can't say the same thing about the differences between now and 1904.

  36. Don't expect any cool tech references by thasmudyan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Don't expect any cool tech references or innovation from this. It seems like a pretty standard law show with just about enough standard sci-fi things to make network PHBs believe that they are innovating. Networks don't go for new concepts right now, they're just combining already proven elements from older shows.

    See, the average consumer is already scared about "modern life", it's all sooo comlicated and confusing. People get the feeling that they're lost in everyday life, tech/scientific advancement scares them if it doesn't come disguised as something familiar. The last thing Joe Sixpack wants to see on TV right now is a freaky, complicated show with scary new ideas. Just give them LA Law and Melrose Place all over again, everything will be fine.

    Shows that tried to do something different have all failed recently, because they were not suitable for the average consumer. Firefly went down pretty fast - and to stay with the Joss Wedon thing - Angel got cancelled right away when they made their first remotely intelligent season. Those examples may be shows you like or dislike a lot, doesn't matter, just as long as you can acknowledge (for the sake of argument) that they were radically different from the simplified, standardized and sanitized world people have come to expect.

    By the way, from a geek point of view, the research team for Century City doesn't seem to bright anyway. There is a poll in the website:
    Should bionic players be allowed to play professional baseball?
    - Yes, they have as much right as anyone
    - No, it's not fair to the other players
    - It's hard to say

    Obvious geek answer: if bionic extensions are superior to natural parts, just tune them down until they match average natural performance. (The example case was a bionic eye, it's really simple with that.) Yeah, so bionics can help you just enough to overcome a disability and it can make you a super athlete. But it doesn't have to be EITHER OR, does it? Can't it just be configured to make you "normal"? (OMG, I'm actually discussing a stupid TV show argument with myself, I must be pretty bored)

    So, anyway... don't expect anything ground-breaking from this show. Speak after me: there *are* no new ideas.
    - /me waves hand jedi-like

  37. Cybernetic Estoppel! by jeff.paulsen · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'll see your cybernetic estoppel and raise you one affidavit of positronic imbalance.

    This is way more fun than the tv show is, I bet. Just sitting around making up future law show stuff.

    Your Honor, I object! The precedent set in United Posidyne vs General Subatomics clearly establishes that transmissions by tachyon mail cannot be used as an affirmative defense against a charge of q-spectrum barratry!

    Objection sustained. The bailiffbot will mindwipe the jury regarding the last piece of evidence, and counsel will approach the hoverbench.

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    -- Jeff Paulsen
  38. What if it all works out to be ok? by tjstork · · Score: 2, Interesting


    What if USA PATRIOT, Software Patents, Closed Source, all of our hot button issues, all of it work out ok, and that humanity does get better and life does go on, and that, the chicken littles of today really turn out to be chicken littles?

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    This is my sig.
  39. "Sex, Lies..." by StarKruzr · · Score: 4, Funny

    "... and MRAM chips."

    (with any luck)

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    +++ATH0
    1. Re:"Sex, Lies..." by Psiren · · Score: 4, Funny

      "...and Duke Nukem Forever". No sorry, that's just silly. No way it'll be released by then ;)

    2. Re:"Sex, Lies..." by Guppy06 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Come now! We all know that possession of a recordable media in the year 2030 is considered a felony!

  40. Trek by Experiment+626 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The Star Trek spinoffs already did a lot of this "ponder the ethical ramifications of new technology" type of thing. The genetically enhanced Dr. Bashir of DS9 raised the same issues as the bionic baseball player this show will have. Picard's arbitrations in various alien disputes were essentially legal drama in space. Janeway's constant ethical delimmas come to mind, particularly the way she always tried to follow her principles even when it was not the best thing for the crew -- much as the justice system must uphold legal principles, even when it is not the best outcome for the specific litigants. In Enterprise, the episode where Tripp is cloned to harvest his brain has obvious parallels to the current debates on human cloning, stem cell research, and so forth.

    I'd expect something that puts forth these same kinds of delimmas, but with technology much closer to our own, and an emphasis on resolving them through the legal system. No starship battles, Borg, or aliens with funny latex foreheads. Sci-fi often uses futuristic settings to explore hypothetical ethical issues -- consider The 6th Day (what would widespread cloning do to society?), Minority Report (is knowing someone WILL commit a crime, does that justify preemptive punishment?), or Star Wars (if you have a big spacecraft, is it okay to blow up Alderaan?). Just kidding about the last one. This show sounds like it will be sci-fi lite, taking the same approach to exploring the questions new technology brings, but set in a society that is still a lot closer to our own.

  41. PKD did a great examination of time paradox. by khasim · · Score: 2, Insightful

    In those ~45 pages, he completely examines the implications of all the time paradoxes that other writers just leave alone.

    The short story is so much better than the movie.

    In short, the information you have now determines the choice you make now which determines your future.

    In order to make a different choice than the one you made because of your knowledge of the future, you'd need NEW knowledge of the NEW future that was based upon your decision.

  42. Wait... by yoshi_mon · · Score: 2, Funny

    You mean people under 60 actually watch CBS?

    --

    Really, I know what I'm doing...Ohhhh, look at the shiny buttons!
  43. I thought that was decided already. by khasim · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't those enhancements already violations?

    A better scenario would be.....when fetal manipulation is practiced, does that make the person who was manipulated/enhanced ineligible for sports? Particularly because it was done TO him/her instead of BY him/her.

    Would there be a test for such?

    Would there be a seperate division for enhanced athletes? Would the "pure" athletes lose viewership because of that? Could they sue?

    And that's just chemical/bio enhancement. They're still thinking too small and focusing on individuals.

  44. The future is about what we are not doing, by coldtone · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Not what we are doing. The progress we have made over the past 25 years is more about many things becoming easier to do or in some cases obsolete. I mean all Tivo is just an automated VCR. You hardly ever put disks or anything into your computer. Using internet banking just saves a trip to the bank or the mail box. It's now very simple to send messages to anyone anywhere in the world for almost free.

    In 25 years from now it will be much more of the same. Tax preparation may become a thing of the past because computers have it nailed. Gas stations might be completely automated. Typing things into a computer could be fully optional, (But people still will). People will probably live longer. It will cost even more to live in New York. You get the idea.

    I hope that we will have one or maybe even two OMG technologies. (Anti Gravity, Warp Drive, Sentient AI, you get the idea.) But these things tend to only come around once every hundred years. (Fire, Farming, The Wheel, The Gun, The Car, The Light Bulb, The Computer) so it might be asking for a bit much.

  45. Seriously.. by jimmyCarter · · Score: 2, Redundant

    Is there any doubt that EVERY episode will be about cases involving patent law(suits)?

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    -- jimmycarter
  46. Future episodes by RoboOp · · Score: 3, Funny

    Divorce: Kitt from Knight Rider divorces life partner Michael for alimony and a monthly oil change. But who gets the fuzzy dice and the beaded seat cover?

    Product Liability: Customer sues when a vegetable becomes mixed into his Soylent Green.

    IP: RIAA sues ancient space faring race for IP infringement (Their eons-old anthem bears a striking resembelance to theme of 'Growing Pains'). Aliens carpet bomb Earth.

    Technowhiz: Geek invents a lawbot the size of a hearing aid that translates between legalese and english. The firm goes bankrupt -the lawyers into the wilderness for the spin-off "Lawyers in the deadzone"

    Murder: Peta activists genetically engineers sentient dog. Dog tells PETA to F-off and insists on his right to eat meat. Activists then kill animal under the defence of 'its just an animal'

    Libel: Snake Pliskin hires firm to sue the guy that publicizes his death.

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    "First you get the Linux, then you get the power, THEN you get the women"
  47. Wolfram & Hart by rlp · · Score: 3, Interesting

    My favorite sci-fi/fantasy series about a law firm is 'Angel'. But it's about an eeeevilllll law firm (is that redundant, or what) called 'Wolfram & Hart'. Apart from that, I'm tired of television's endless stream of doctor / lawyer / cop / reality shows. Probably why I don't watch much TV anymore.

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    [Insert pithy quote here]
  48. I've Seen the future, and I've left it behind by bfg9000 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The future is NOT going to be positive. We have two choices; we can live in the world of either the Jetsons or Blade Runner. We'll either have cool Japanese robot servants or we'll be watching our back for Replicants programmed to act as supersoldier police in a facist military state.

    Look at the trends in American (and world) politics, and tell me we're going to have a shiny happy planet where everyone lives in peace and the law isn't paid for by Microsoft, the Republican party, and the NRA.

    World tension, possibly caused by the Pentagon's supposedly dead (but not really) Operation Northwoods (google it if you care); terrorism and hatred -- and because of this, division, not unity ("you're either for me or against me", says the great Uniter); widening gap between super-rich (our rulers) and super-poor (we the servants); environmental degradation (I didn't care about the environment until I caught a fish with two heads and open sores all over its body -- REALLY. Do you eat Tuna? what's in that can anyway?); the universal use of lying, deceit, and the growing apathy and lack of morals EVERYWHERE; immorality of all kinds, and the violent angry response to it; the growth of propaganda and the belief that the truth does not matter, only winning over an enemy; a US government who CHOOSES to have a second cold war and is positioning things to ensure we will be at war forever; loss of privacy; loss of basic Constitutional rights and freedoms; [insert your own corrupt government story here]

    And don't get me started on reality tv.

    And DEFINITELY don't get me started on KDE versus Gnome, or vi versus emacs.

    If you think about it, the probability is extremely high that we aren't going to have a happy future. Looking at the world around you, the facts are undeniable -- unless you have your head in the sand, or don't give a good goddamn about anything but yourself (in which case you're part of the problem; see above). Can you REALLY look at everything that's going on and think the future is really that bright?

    And before you answer "Yes", you DO know marijuana's illegal, right? You shouldn't smoke and Slashdot at the same time.

    One last thought: the media is NOT an informational tool, but a calming time-wasting distraction to keep you from spending your time researching the real issues that are going to kill you someday. Discuss among yourselves while I fill out my daily Homeland Security reports.

    --

    I'm not normally an irrational zealous dickhead, but I figure "When in Rome..."

  49. [OT] Minority Report by mdfst13 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "(like how can his eyes still be authorized to the top secret area when he is most wanted)"

    This is one of those things that may be hard to believe but is very realistic. The key to it is understanding that the top secret area was not connected to any of the rest of the systems and was essentially hard coded. The reason for this was to keep it from being compromised (compromising the exterior systems does not help compromise the interior systems).

    It would have been very difficult to change that system to keep him from getting in, as it would have involved changing the hard coding. To make it worse, the person who would naturally have been in charge of seeing that that was done was him. Further, his replacement did *not* have authority to go into that area, much less change it.

    This was actually very realistic. Separating the exterior and interior systems is the correct thing to do, but it also means that if one of the limited number of people authorized to change that system (the movie implies three people had access, including him; the precogs do not count, as they wouldn't have access to open the door) is compromised, one must make changes to that system as well as the exterior system. Easy to overlook.

    The part of Minority Report that bothered me was the idea that if they couldn't send the people to jail, the system would fall apart. Who cares if they go to jail if they don't murder anyone? Particularly with the crimes of passion, like the guy with the scissors. The issue was subtly different in the short story, which I remember as being more realistic.

    They also don't explain how they were going to expand the system with only three precogs with limited range.

  50. I want Robot Law by angryelephant · · Score: 4, Funny

    Something along the lines of the robots from Futurama trying to hold legal proceedings. Imagine a tense courtroom full of judgebots, jury bots, shady criminal defense bots, idealistic district attroney bots, a comical oafish bailiff bot. Robot Judge: Before us stands the accused Bender. You stand on trial for five counts of stealing gin from orphans, 3 counts of vehicular petty larceny involving heavy construction equipment and 1 count of jay walking. How do you plea? Bender: Bite my shiny metal a$$ Robot Judge: I sentence you to 100 years gas mining on the sun. Bender: aww crap

  51. Spoiler Warning!!! by serutan · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm from the future. Century City was cancelled after 3 episodes, resurrected in 2005 after a fan email campaign, then cancelled again after the campaign proved to be the work of a lone haxx04 named dl3374, whose brain as of 2047 was still serving a 200,000-hour sentence as the CPU of the Volograd sewage treatment facility.

    Television ceased to be a commercial medium after the Copyright Wars of 2019, when the Distributed Fiction Experiment proved that all copyrighted material could be randomly generated.

  52. Re:What? by Minna+Kirai · · Score: 2, Interesting

    That's future DRM of course. Everything is reference-counted.

    To protect intellectual property, no data file can be copied without the original being deleted in the same step. Each digital file is bound to a small bit of plastic which serves both as your license to possess that file, and the transport medium to move it around (with a handy 2cm preview of the file's contents)

    It might seem inconvenient to maintain the sneakernet in the face of so much tech, but it keeps officeworkers performing a minimum amount of exercise...

  53. My Idea for a Sci-Fi show about lawyers... by rhild · · Score: 2, Funny

    Alien McBeal

  54. ANOTHER law show? by Simonetta · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Actually this will probably be the only show to deal with today's most important legal issues.

    The 'future' setting in television shows is always just a plot device to handle controversial modern issues without getting shot down by the network censors (the 'standards and practices' department).

    Television in the USA is always a fine line between pissing off the commercial sponsers and attracting viewers. The material must be 'hot' enough to attact viewers from cable and internet but not to 'hot' to invoke the possiblility that the commercial sponsor will flip out.

    However today since the media corporations own so much of the rest of the economy (or, more precisely, the media corporations are owned by giant conglamerates who own large chucks of the economy), it is more important not to piss off anyone in the government.

    Television is stupid because there are very few types of progamming that meet those exact requirements, and all the possible plots and scenarios were already developed and aired twenty years ago.

    Television would probably have to go off the air anyway by December 2006 without government decree. They simply have run out of things to show.

  55. Re:The Bronze Age sucked too by kfg · · Score: 2, Funny

    . . .biplanes with laser guns. . .

    Sharks. Sharks with frickin' laser beams on their heads would be nice.

    KFG

  56. How could ANYONE ignore patents and SCO??? by OnanTheBarbarian · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yeah, sure. What a schmuck this Zuckerman fellow must be.

    What kind of low-grade moron doesn't know that the SCO lawsuit and an overly liberal regime of granting software patents is the direct pathway to a horrifying, Blade-Runner-style future where gangs of midgets tear the fittings off your police aircar given half a chance?

    I think it's very, very important for any show like this to offer detailed depictions of OSS-type issues. These issues should arise every other show at the very least, and possibly feature verbatim quotes of essays by Eric Raymond and Richard Stallman. A major character might take time out from the courtroom scenes, sex and scandal and face the camera and talk for about 10 minutes about the difference between 'free as in speech' and 'free as in beer'.

  57. Re:Bright Future? by glitch23 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The last war in the US we had was around 1863. What war are you talking about?

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  58. Show tried to do too much (spoilers) by btempleton · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Interesting idea with lots of potential but poorly executed. The show tried to do way too much. Instead of just doing the basic clone-importing case which they could have made good, they need to throw in a long series of surprises, plans to harvest organs, that the boy is already a clone and so on. It was too much to put in one show, especially with two cases to do.

    Can't say I cared much for the overacting or dramatics either.

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