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A Camaro That Leaves A Wake
Artana Niveus Corvum writes "I came across this entirely at random, but it seems like someone with too much time on his hands has taken an old idea and improved on it... and come up with something truly unique and cool: a car based on a 2002 Camaro body with a Subaru WRX Turbo engine (300 horsepower) capable of going over 125MPH that doubles as a boat capable of going over 40MPH."
2 below-threshold comments and it's down ... come on people, you're like the hand of a vengeful god of websites!
I am one of many. My idea is not unique, nor do I expect my voice alone to sway you. I speak in a chorus of opinion.
This will sure resolve all those commuter issues in Venice.
40MPH? What's that in knots?
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Engine 2.5 Subaru Turbo
Transmission Rancho 4-Speed Manual
Jet Berkeley 12 JE
Length 207"
Width 75"
Height 49"
Weight 2775 Lbs.
Wheelbase 100"
Road Speed 125 MPH
Water Speed 45 MPH
Fuel Capacity 22 Gallons
BUT WHAT IS THE PRICE?
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Slight nitpick, but is it using the engine from a WRX or an STi? They're essentially the same car, but the WRX puts out around 230 horsepower whereas the STi puts out either 276 or 300, depending on where in the world you are.
This is a really interesting project either way, neat hack.
Wow, who would of thought THIS would ever be ON TOPIC?!?! Maybe he wasn't kidding?
"Uh, how you gonna get down to the shore?
Funny you should ask, I've got a car now.
Oh wow, how'd you get a car?
Oh, my parents drove it up here from the Bahamas.
You're kidding!
I must be, the Bahamas are islands, okay, the important thing now, is
that you ask me what kind of car I have.
Uh, what kinda car do ya got?
I've got a
BITCHIN CAMARO!....."
(go find the MP3... legaly of course)
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Looks like we sunk his battleship.. err, server
Slashdot sucks
Dave March - Builder of the WaterCar
WaterCar, Inc. is the brainchild of Dave March and his two sons. For over thirty years March has been an avid high performance car and boat enthusiast. His passion and desire has been for building and piloting fast planes, boats and cars. To facilitate his obsession for cars and boats he also developed a knack for repairing wrecked cars and boats. For the past twenty years March started and developed his collision repair business into one of the largest, most state of the art facilities in the world. He then took many of the systems and repair techniques that he developed and co-founded the Caliber Collision Center Franchise which currently has annual revenue of over 155 million.
In 1998 March accepted an offer to sell his business and semi-retired. After putting the finishing touches on his large custom home he built on the golf course in Newport Coast above his 6,000 square foot basement garage/design center equipped with every conceivable tool and piece of equipment imaginable found himself with a lot of spare time and pent up creative juices. This is dangerous combination for Dave March. He was looking for a challenge when his youngest son began looking at amphibious cars. Together they found a 1964 Amphicar and restored it. After all the work, they were disappointed by its performance. It was fun to drive into the water, but once in the water, it was slow and not as much fun as expected.
March threw himself into researching every amphibious vehicle in the world and discovered that amphibious vehicles are much more popular in Europe. And, to his astonishment, he realized that of all the vehicles ever built, no one had successfully built a true high performance amphibious vehicle.
That's when it hit him- why not combine his love of high performance cars and boats into a single, high performance amphibious car? "Everything he needed was right here in Southern California". The best hydraulics are available from the low-rider crowd and the rear-engine drive technology from the high performance sand-rail market. Every drive train combination you could imagine is available for inspection at Glamis. The brakes, suspension and speed accessories come from the hot rod aftermarket industry which is booming in Southern California. The most important part, hull and jet configuration, from the performance- boat industry along with unlimited input from great boat people that are very willing to help. He started thinking he could build a high performance amphibious car from off the shelf parts.
March wanted to build a four-seater, yet still keep the car sporty looking. The 2002 Camaro was the ideal starting point. He purchased a Camaro fiberglass funny-car shell body, added hundreds of labor hours and he had a great looking Camaro car/boat plug. He built the molds from the plug and proceeded to build the first parts.
March built a lightweight stainless frame to mount the suspension and motor to and fit it to the body. The challenge was to make the wheels retractable. He attended a couple of low-rider shows to figure how to make the wheels retractable and settled on using parts from Homies Hydraulics. The motor and jet combo was another significant challenge, particularly getting it all to fit in the trunk area. March wanted the WaterCar to look as much like a stock Camaro as possible.
The first time on the water, the vehicle performed beautifully, with only one significant problem: "It wouldn't plane out!" He made multiple trial trips back and forth to the lake, adding more boost for additional power and tinkering on the jet setup. After some additional work on the bottom, he was finally getting on plane easily and reaching 45 mph. Success at last!
The newest version of March's handiwork drives just like a car on the road and actually handles very well with the Corvette suspension. "It has plenty of power from the Subaru 2.5 Turbo WRX motor. When you go in the water, you simply drive in, put the transmission in neutral, engage the jet, fl
Pictures of Watercar and Aquada. http://www.jetski.com/article.cfm?id=433
:)
Nice to see that the watercar is 150K while the other Aquada is 235K.
Now lets see something a slashdot reader can afford.
Is a scanning red light on the front, and they'd have Knight Boat!
As long as there's always a canal, that is.
Just because you can mod me down, doesn't mean you're right. Shoes for industry!
and come up with something truly unique and cool: a car ... that doubles as a boat
Maybe cool, but not unique! There was a story about a sportcar/speedboat that came up a while back. True, it can only go 100mph on land and 30mph in the water, but I'd say it's close enough to say it's not unique.
Oh yeah, and this site called Slash- something or other posted about the the same vehicle.
(note: not that I'm upset with the content of this news item, I think it's even cooler to have modded a car to do this than to create one from scratch -- I just have a problem with hype like saying something is new and unique when it's not)
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A post about a car that isn't turned into a robot, Star Wars ship, or anime something or other!
...geez, did it really *have* to be a Camaro?
I mean come on, that's like spending tens of thousands on a high end stereo and on room acoustics, then playing the Beastie Boys.
As opposed to those people who build Lego models of the Deathstar, or memorize Pi to 15,000 digits.
Say what you want about the guy, I bet he has no problem picking up chicks.
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Car Boat crosses are neither original or good. They fail as cars and as boats.
They generally have VERY poor on water performance especially considering for the price of building one of these monstrosities you could have a sports car and a sport boat. Considering the engine on that thing, the boat performance aspect of it is awful it's not even close to being fast for a water craft and it's not even the worlds fastest car boat cross either, not even close, try 80mph but I digress he gave it a good shot.
Car boat crosses then to be very unsafe on land at higher speeds because the hull shape forces air down and builds a bow wave of air making the front end unstable causing at least poor searing response and at worst roll overs and swerving.
This is just a waste of a good car and some boat parts and a whole lot of time. Considering no one's time is free even the cheapest moron with a car could buy a crappy boat working at McDonald's in less time and then he'll have a boat and a car and people won't laugh at him on and off water.
Just FYI my Sea-Doo does over 40mph on water and seats 3 instead of two.
Popular mechanics a few months back. Old news.
What the heck is a 'sig'?
Just in case the server crashes and burns (like they usually do),I have put up a mirror.o m/meetbuilder.html o m/ o m/photo.html
The mirror of http://www.watercar.com/meetbuilder.html is at http://mirrorit.demonmoo.com/r_215/www.watercar.c
The mirror of http://www.watercar.com/ is at http://mirrorit.demonmoo.com/r_215/www.watercar.c
The mirror of http://www.watercar.com/photo.html is at http://mirrorit.demonmoo.com/r_215/www.watercar.c
Do we not yet realize that all slashdotters do is look at pictures and google doesn't tend to cache those?
W/o seeing the article, I can understand why they are using the subaru engine. They have been used in kit planes for years.
As such Google tells me that 45 mph = 39.1039309 knots.
Pretty decent speed, that....
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Buncha morons posting trashtalk here... Lets see how many idiotic comments don't make any sense.
1. Camaro has 4 seats, not 2, and this boatcar also has 4 seats.
2. The subaru engine has plenty of power to push a car like this to over 125 mph. The basic camaro RS has less power than that subaru engine and can take a camaro RS to around 135 mph.
3. It uses a jetdrive, not a prop
4. It isn't a converted camaro, rather it's a custom design that looks like a camaro and actually uses many suspension parts from a corvette.
5. If you read the material, you see that the smooth underbody for water use is achieved through moving panels. In land mode, the panels are retracted. This likely disrupts airflow under the body and reduces lift.
6. Unless you're an aerodynamic engineer, STFU about what the boat hull shape will do to the aerodynamics of the vehicle. The original pre-1998 camaro was shaped like a wing and would flip over at speeds over around 180. This thing is sculpted in a rather different fashion and speculation on it's aerodynamic behavior without knowing the cross sectional shape or doing wind tunnel testing is just that - uninformed speculation.
Pitiful negative morons bagging on the article without even looking at the website... How about a big cupful of STFU.
And 125mph is nothing. I take it up to 155mph (Where the speedo cuts off) at least once a week. I'd hate to have my 5.7l V8 gutted for a 4-banger. Thats blasphemy..
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I love it when people do 1xx MPH in their stock focus/caviliar/civic... come on people just cause the stock engine can do it doesn't mean the stock TIRES can. That's right people, nobody ever thinks of the TIRES. Would someone please think OF THE TIRES!!?
The Scooby has a pretty large reliability advantage over the 3000 GT in that it uses a much less complex AWD system that is based around viscous couplers. the whole system adds only ~150 pounds to the weight of the vehicle, and is very well built. I have over 130,000 on mine, most of which occured above 80 mph, and so far all I've done to the car (other than routine maintenance) is replace 1 wheel bearing. Not a bad record.
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I was driving home from work one day during a flash flood. The bridge that I needed to take was closed because some jackass in a semi truck recked in the storm. I had to drive through a lower elevation and the water was so deep that it got sucked into my air cleaner. In fact it was only an inch or two below my window. My car stalled because of the water in the air filter.
Pushing a Camaro out of 2.5 feet deep flowing water REALLY sucks.
LK
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She looks like she's had a good mod job done as well, and fits in with the car nicely!
I've got almost a complete mirror here:
http://slushdot.org/mirror/watercar/.
I'm still working on the videos and full images.
Does auto insurance cover accidents on the water?
Granted, he did a little more than strap some 55 gallon drums on the side as pontoons. But time is a luxury when you're fleeing from the clutches of a ruthless dictator.
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The 1960-era(!) Belgian children TV-show "Kapitein Zeppos" ("Captain Zeppos") featured an amphibious car. The Belgian government-sponsored TV station "VRT" has made a description of the series (in Dutch), which includes a picture of the car.
Obviously, it didn't go as fast as the camaro, and, according to the site, "turning it was a bad idea, while at the least movement of the water, the car would heavily move from left to right".
While I am willing to accept that this guy does indeed own this car, I can almost guarantee you that the girl riding with him in the pictures is a rental.
I'm sure if I drove my car at 125MPH into the water it, at some point, would be going 40MPH in the water.
I once played with the idea of having a WRX, but everytime i was on a track somewhere, 50% of the WRX had broken transmission or turbo. I know someone installed rally gears, but I wouldn't be able to stand the whining. So I wondered if they have been made more robust?
You obviously know nothing about Subaru's and IHI turbos. Subaru tried a twin turbo setup on the JDM Legacy STi and it did not work well, but that's besides the point. There are probably mainly throttle response and logistical reasons why the USDM STi uses the VF39. The STi doesn't have water injection. No production car has water injection. Some have water spray on their IC's. no one is blowing the 6-speeds on the STi. In fact, I haven't heard of anyone EVER sheering the gears off of ANY STi 6-speed whether imported from the JDM V7 or factory or otherwise. Jeff Sponaugle is running currently 500hp with a FP Green turbo and the 6-speed with no problem and he just became the first pump gas street trim WRX to run 11's a few days ago. What the hell with alcohol injection? how has the stock engine been "hardened" for alcohol injection. Explain to me with some engineering formulas why you believe so.
Odd that none of the videos on the site show transitions. The shot of the car driving into the water fades into a full speed shot, and the video of the car driving out never shows it with panels down...
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Check out the floatation devices on the owner's girlfriend :p
WaterCar Specifications
The WaterCar is a fiberglass amphibious vehicle styled after the 2002 Convertible Camaro body style. It is powered by a Turbo charged 2.5 Liter 300 HP Subaru engine. The transmission is a Rancho Type I-4 speed manual transmission. The four wheel independent suspension and brakes are late model C-4 Corvette with stainless steel rotors.
The WaterCar can reach speeds in excess of 125 MPH on land and the drivability with the Corvette suspension is outstanding. Once the WaterCars is driven into the water all four wheels are hydraulically retracted with the flip of a switch. The bottom covers that enclose the wheel well are also hydraulically extended to create a smooth high speed bottom which allows the WaterCar to easily hit speeds of 40 MPH on the water. The Marine Drive is a Berkeley 12JE Jet Drive with a place diverter to control the ride depending on water conditions. The WaterCar has four usable seats and the doors are fully functional. The aircraft style lock assembly assures the doors are completely water tight for water operation. The WaterCar has a removable center mount ski pole which makes it ideal for wake boarding or skiing.
This sporty four-seater makes it possible to drive to the lake, experience an exhilarating boat ride and drive back home again without ever leaving your car!
The recent program converted a classic rare (the heresy!) Lotus into a hovercraft!
Channel4 TV recently started a series, loosely like "ScrapHeap Challenge" (equivalent to the USA's "Junkyard Wars"), where a team of people have to convert one vehicle into another. Unlike the junkyard/scrapheap, they have money to spend!
I'd love to enter one of these TV programmes, but it seems to me that the key members of the team need to have metal-working skills, welding being the main one! I could do the electrics, but my software skills would probably be wasted :-(
That is truely a Bitchin' Camaro.
Hopefully the Dead Milkmen will get workin' on
FISHIN' CAMARO!
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If this is Heaven I'm bailin out! I cant tolerate this ol tin-tub, so fulla trash and rats...
Most twin turbos are able to add less power than a large single turbo. Most twin turbos are in place to reduce turbo lag (smaller impeller means less mass and a lower spool-up time). This is especially true for sequential turbos, but also tends to apply (although not always) to a "per bank" twin turbo system (such as on other boxer cars, like the Porsche 911 twin turbos). For example, many Supra Turbo tuners will rip out the twin turbo system, and drop in a large single turbo, rebuild their motors, and will end up with 700-1000 HP at the crank. I've also heard of Porsche 993TT owners doing the same thing. That extra 70-150 HP figure is just wrong -- that same figure can be accomplished by other means. Clearly, you're a STi affectionado -- I'm sure that you know more about this car than I do. However, unless there's something special about this motor that breaks all the rules of the conventional internal combustion engine, I seriously disagree with your assessment.
There is no reason why a twin turbo system will provide more power to this car. If you want more power, change the fuel mapping, drop in some new injectors and increase the boost pressure. I'm guessing that a primary reason to drop that American iron was to lighten up the front end. Turbos tend to add weight. Think of how much weight an additional turbo and associated plumbing will add. Soon, you'll get to a point of diminishing returns (in engine weight) where your STi motor weighs close to the Camaro motor. Given equal weight, I'd take the American iron -- it's torquier and doesn't lag like a turbo...and are generally far, far cheaper.
*Sigh* Is he drag racing this thing? Why would he ever want to do that? These are both things that are only really useful in (lame) street races and in drag races. I'm not sure, but I don't think that's what he built this car for.
-Turkey