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Astronauts Get Tricoders (Almost)

AzrealAO writes "Space.com is reporting that The Expedition 9 crew aboard the International Space Station are equipped with HP iPAQ PocketPC's, which they are using as mobile productivity tools to record crew procedures, personal memos, check e-mail and calendars. The crew can also listen to music, view photos from home and read e-books. The iPAQs will be left on the station and reconfigured for future crews, and two additional iPAQs will be sent up on the next flight for a total of four."

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  1. Cost? by Inominate · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So how much does it cost to put an ipaq into orbit?

    1. Re:Cost? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Certainly not more than sending an entire car to the moon. I wish we could return to that era, instead of the times we live in now, where everyone goes worried about tiny costs that aren't even worth thinking of. Mankind can travel anywhere in space, it's just a matter of how much we want to do it. Apparently, not that much, judging from the health of any space program anywhere.

    2. Re:Cost? by imag0 · · Score: 4, Informative

      according to this link it's 5.5K to send a pound up...

      http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/shuttle/upgrades/goa ls .html

      HP says the h5555 (close enough) weighs 7.29 oz

      these guys will convert shit

      http://www.convert-me.com/en/convert

      been up all night so im probably fulla shit but 7.2 oz is 0.45 pounds (bit less than 1/2 pound?)

      0.45 x 5,500 = $2475 a pop. not including SD card or swanky leatherette carrying case. or extended warranty, for that matter ;)

      Carry on!

    3. Re:Cost? by dustmite · · Score: 1

      Well since this whole thing reads like a damn ad, perhaps HP sponsored it. or maybe they should ... corporations sponsor expenses of space travel in exchange for good exposure?

    4. Re:Cost? by BuckaBooBob · · Score: 1

      Extended warranty is probably void when you escape the atmosphere.. They tend to Imply things like that in their warranty claims :)

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    5. Re:Cost? by SEWilco · · Score: 1
      Apparently, not that much, judging from the health of any space program anywhere.

      China. Rather than a car, it sounds like they want to send up bulldozers.

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  3. hmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Why don't they take up one of those performance gaming laptops and we can send them new game CDs every now and then. It's not like every man-second up there is worth thousands of dollars.... they can have a bit of fun.

    You'd be pissed if you forgot the battery charger though.

    1. Re:hmmm by RogueProtoKol · · Score: 1

      An Alienware you mean?

    2. Re:hmmm by maelstrom · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Those chips are not rated for space. Radiation hardening is important from what I understand.

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    3. Re:hmmm by Rolo+Tomasi · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The iPAQs aren't radiation hardened either.

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    4. Re:hmmm by imrec · · Score: 2, Funny

      not as pissed as you'd be after looking for the shuttle cigarette lighter for an hour...

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    5. Re:hmmm by jerw134 · · Score: 1

      Those chips are not rated for space. Radiation hardening is important from what I understand.

      Only if the device is going to be used in an area that receives radiation. Don't forget, people aren't radiation hardened, either. The ship protects them from radiation, so they don't have to wear spacesuits all the time.

    6. Re:hmmm by jabber01 · · Score: 1

      Astronauts aren't rated for space either. This is why we send them up in shielded spacecraft. ;)

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  4. connection? by jponster · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Check emails? view photos from home? what sort of connection do they get in space?
    I remember the trouble I had getting ADSL cos I live in the middle of nowhere, but this is something else - surely they cant be using dialup??

    1. Re:connection? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      F9RST post from the space station!!!!

      what sort of connection do they get in space?

      I mean, our pings up here really suck.

    2. Re:connection? by Bishop,+Martin · · Score: 3, Informative

      The latest mars missions had 15kb/s I believe

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    3. Re:connection? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      from what i hear... they put linux + kismet + pringles can on the ipaqs and use them to hack in to 802.11b's as they fly over.

    4. Re:connection? by TheRoachMan · · Score: 3, Interesting

      In theory, they could get way more than 15kb/sec. There's always numerous sattellites within range, so connectivity and bandwidth shouldn't be a problem. Problem is, I don't think they can use commercial satellites, because their communications are supposed to be secret. NASA doesn't want people eavesdropping :)

    5. Re:connection? by rf0 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Well they can get 128K to Mars Deep Space Network
      Rus

    6. Re:connection? by nfabl · · Score: 1

      That was 128kbit/s wasn't it?

    7. Re:connection? by AllUsernamesAreGone · · Score: 1

      Given that some satellite broadband services have downlink speeds of 2Mbps (which means even higher uplink speeds to the satellite acting as a relay), I see no reason why devices on the IIS shouldn't have similar bandwidth available.

    8. Re:connection? by Feanturi · · Score: 1

      I remember the trouble I had getting ADSL cos I live in the middle of nowhere, but this is something else - surely they cant be using dialup??

      Hehe, that would be one HELL of a long trunk line.. Since the shuttle can relay communications to earth, the units are likely getting their signal from within the shuttle itself. Anyhow, this article is lame and seems to be more of a marketting ploy than anything else. 'Tricorder (kinda)' my ass. To me, the defining characteristic of a triCORDER would be the ability to reCORD details about the environment/people in the area. It's just a PDA, and not even treated for space-use at that. Lame lame lame.

  5. Re:Tricoders? by TheRoachMan · · Score: 3, Informative

    My thought exactly. Compare:
    Tricoders
    TricoRders
    Last one gives more relevant results.

  6. Official Press Release by Eluding+Reality · · Score: 4, Informative
  7. Aren't Tricorders Sensors?? by Blastrogath · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I thought the whole point of a tricorder was a portible package of a ton of sensors and a little computing power to run analisys of the data. Tricorders are used to measure stuff, not take notes. These things are more like the star trek data tablets if anything.

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    1. Re:Aren't Tricorders Sensors?? by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 1

      I am pretty sure tricorders had storage capabilities, but I don't think they were used in the respective shows to take written or oral notes. Oral notes would have been easy to tack into the design idea. PADDs were used for taking written notes and reading.

      I'd say, if anything, PDAs can easily become a merging of both the tricorder and PADD idea, especially if someone makes compact flash sensor add-on and makes relevant data logging software. I know there is one Palm that has GPS.

    2. Re:Aren't Tricorders Sensors?? by rpj1288 · · Score: 1

      Exactly right. These are not Tricorders, but PADDs.

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    3. Re:Aren't Tricorders Sensors?? by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      I thought the whole point of a tricorder was a portible package of a ton of sensors and a little computing power to run analisys of the data. Tricorders are used to measure stuff, not take notes.

      I was thinking the same thing. They took tricorders to the surface of planets to see what things are made of or to detect enemies approaching. I don't imagine them encountering new substances within the space station. If so, they don't need one for each crew.

      "Who the hell FARTED?....Okay, if you don't tell me, I'll figure it out on my own......I am detecting methane, fish oil, and beans. Mike! I saw you eating fish tacos! It's you! Bad Mikey."

      Seriously, though, a somewhat primative composition analysis tool can be made using technology similar to what the Mars rovers use: multiple optical filters. It has a wheel of about 15 or so optical filters that can each rotate over the primary lens. It roughly resembles those theatre lights that can shine different colors to give different moods, except it reads light instead of writes it.

      Imaging an object under multiple filters produces a spectrum of 15 data points of intensity (assume one "spot" is focused on at a time), one for each "color" in the moving wheel. Then a database is searched to find the best matches based on lab specimens of different substances. Math regression is used to find the best match for multiple substances.

      The rovers augment this with some fancier tools, however. The optical sprectrum is for preliminary and remote analysis. (Actually, it is not technically "optical" because near infrared and perhaps near ultra-violate is also used.)

      But such "color wheel" technology could probably be put into a portable device. It is actually what human eyes do more or less, except with more "colors". For example, we know from experience that green lemons are not ripe. The gizmo is going from 3 colors to a dozen or so, and using controlled lab samples for comparing. 3 data points from human eyes (red, green, blue) is not enough to make decent "scientific" guesses. It also helps to go into the infrared and ultraviolete ends of the light sprectrum.

      So, some hands-on geek out there, build me one! The hard part is probably obtaining or making the color filters. Maybe some science stores have some.

  8. PDA and Robots by A+Boy+and+His+Blob · · Score: 2, Informative

    I wrote a paper for school on something like this, and also this a few years back, pretty interesting stuff.

    1. Re:PDA and Robots by A+Boy+and+His+Blob · · Score: 1

      Here is another article about the PSA, I'd much rather have one of these than a PDA. http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast23jul_1 .htm
      Like the fictional tricorder, the PSA will have sensors that can detect the pressure and temperature of the ambient air, as well as concentrations of gases such as CO2. For astronauts living in a sealed aluminum can in the vacuum of space, this kind of information can be a matter of life and death.
  9. Not a Bad Choice by 10101001011 · · Score: 5, Funny

    While many /.'ers may be crying for a Sharp SL-5600 or CL760 to be on board the ISS, the iPAQ isn't a bad choice. It is fairly rugged (for the every day man) and user-friendly enough.

    My first choice would have been the Dell Axim X5 400MHzsince it can accept CF and SD cards (and PCMCIA is an adapter is purchased) and it costs considerably less with a 512MB SD card and a WiFi card than the current equivilant iPAQ (the iPAQ 5555). Of course they probably need those biometric security features. Wouldn't want some complete stranger (or the owner) to actually be able to access their weekly calendar. God knows, they're doing some topsecret stuff up there....

    1. Re:Not a Bad Choice by Galadhrim · · Score: 1

      Yeah what if the Klingon stop by and try to download their data from those things!!! Then the biometric security feats will blow their heads of lol. They would be having less a hard time when it has a PCMCIA adapter, they probably got that one too. :) I don't think the funds are ANY problem for NASA. It's all coming from the taxpayers anyway.

    2. Re:Not a Bad Choice by WARM3CH · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well, I have a few Pocket PCs at home and work, including Dell Axim X5, iPAQ 3970, iPAQ 1940 and iPAQ 2210 and frankly, I like X5 less than any others. I think the best solution is iPAQ 2210 that has both CF and SD card, internal bluetooth, 400MHz Xscale, replacable battery. It has a powerfull IR diode usefull to control any device remotely (using the program Nevo that comes with iPAQ). In many benchmarks iPAQ2210 is significantly faster than X5 and personally I think the build quality of iPAQ is much higher than Axim. Also the screen of iPAQ A LOT better than Axim. The price? Well, you can only get Axim from dell directly and here in Switzerland the 400MHz X5 is round 450 swiss francs and I could find iPAQ2210 as low as 440 swiss francs so basically they are the same.

    3. Re:Not a Bad Choice by moonbender · · Score: 4, Funny

      Thank god it's rugged. Wouldn't want to ship up a new one if one of those thoughtless astronauts drops his iPaq off a table or something, now would you? ;)

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    4. Re:Not a Bad Choice by peragrin · · Score: 1

      Easier to say it this way.

      Dell builds cheap shit. if it's a sheap knock off it's a Dell.

      I don't even like the Ipaq, and I would take one before another Dell

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    5. Re:Not a Bad Choice by iwein · · Score: 1

      <i>it costs considerably less</i>

      ehhmmm.. I don't think that's really an issue here.

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    6. Re:Not a Bad Choice by Hershmire · · Score: 2, Funny

      and user-friendly enough

      You do understand we're talking about rocket scientists here...

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    7. Re:Not a Bad Choice by captn+ecks · · Score: 1

      Doh! Clueless one! An astronaut can't 'drop' something off a table in freefall orbit... everyone knows there are no tables in space. ;)

  10. Imagine... by Bishop,+Martin · · Score: 1, Redundant

    Imagine a floating beowulf cluster of these!
    Sorry, I just had to do it.

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  11. Another article. by modifried · · Score: 4, Informative
  12. keeping in touch by acceber · · Score: 5, Insightful
    The crew will also be able to listen to music, view photos from home and read e-books, allowing them to have some of the comforts of home on their journey.
    Considering that the Expedition 9 crew are spending almost 6 months aboard the International Space Station, this is a great way of keeping in touch with family and civilisation as a whole.

    The iPaq being used in space is another example where the benefits of technology can be felt as it would reduce the effects of "asthenia" where astronauts experience phases of fatigue, low motivation, hypersensitivty and irritability with the change in environment and lack of social communication. The iPaq obviously aims to provide a solution to that problem to a great extent.

  13. Real Tricorder? by KingRob · · Score: 2, Funny

    Does it make the funky beep beep whirr that Spock used to get it to do?

    1. Re:Real Tricorder? by cpghost · · Score: 2, Funny

      Just play beepbeepwhirr.mp3 on it...

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  14. Ah, the self-delusion of fiction-tech-desperate by dupper · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Geeks. A personal organizer is no more a Tricorder than my interstellar spacecraft is the Enterprise.

    1. Re:Ah, the self-delusion of fiction-tech-desperate by rf0 · · Score: 1

      Put a few boops and beeps on and who will know the difference

  15. Hey! by Phidoux · · Score: 1

    I got an online chat through ICQ to one of them.

  16. Uh, I can't really remember by dupper · · Score: 5, Insightful
    A tricorder doing a single one of those things, and I've seen every episode of Star Trek more times than is healthy. Tricorders are tools, not personal organizers and media players. They are universal, trekno-magically flexible sensing tools, that could be deus-ex-machina'ed by a stupid fucking Voyager writer to Van Eck what background applications you have running from three sectors away.

    They may have such functions as this PDA, but they'd be so far below the level of a tricorder's usual function that they wouldn't be worth mentioning, and, being tools for work, never be used as such.

    1. Re:Uh, I can't really remember by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      This is what I hate about Trek, the acting is crap so you look to the the storylines for solace and what do you get? more crap.

      *new sector

      *something mysterious that needs investigation

      *the CAPTAIN (the last person you'd send..) and the THREE next most important people go to investigate.

      *some crazy alien civilization in trouble, happen to speak english

      * plot thickens, somehow captain or crew member has sexual tension with a princess of fugly alien race.

      *they have to leave the planet after solving the problem, transport back to enterprise *just* as some advanced fubdegalalash ship decloacks and takes out their engine or warp drive or shields.

      * then through something uniquely *human* (courage, freindship, cunning) they win the day despite beging owned in any rational assesment of the situation.

      *the end

      So basically every episode cheerleads the human race on to be cooler than everyone else. They either are weak and we defend them, or they are too aggressive and despite their superior technology we defeat them. We are the all laughing all dancing neo-colonisers of space.

      What a total wank. And super bad acting to boot. And EVERY episode fills this pattern. It is so mind numbing I could throw up. The only reason it is sucessful is that there isn't a half-decent sci-fi out there to compete with it.

      Yeah this is a kind of "troll", but I just think trek gets way too much praise and needs to be cut down sometimes.

    2. Re:Uh, I can't really remember by Lord_Breetai · · Score: 1

      That's why they should be compared to PADDs, not tricoreders.

      The PADD was he ST PDA.

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    3. Re:Uh, I can't really remember by MeerCat · · Score: 1

      Oh I can do worse than not liking HHGTTG... in fact I quite liked Hitchhikers, but that Dirk Gently stuff was just unbearably childish junk... oh and William Gibson is pre-juvenile strutting machismo wet dreams too - Virtual Light was quite possibly the worst "fiction" I've ever read ... "the baddies can't be beaten, they are invincible, nothing will work, we're all going to die --- oh look I just invented a 'kill all the bad guys' toy -- yay for me [finis]", I only kept reading out of disbelief that anyone would publish such trivia.

      Ho hum... I guess this will be modded OT now... lets bring it back on topic - why has no-one made a flip phone that makes that Star Trek communicator "chirrup" sound when you flip it open, and a similar ring tone, with a black body and a gold coloured flip - you just know that all those fans would flock to buy one - hell, even I would...

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    4. Re:Uh, I can't really remember by WuphonsReach · · Score: 1

      Ho hum... I guess this will be modded OT now... lets bring it back on topic - why has no-one made a flip phone that makes that Star Trek communicator "chirrup" sound when you flip it open, and a similar ring tone, with a black body and a gold coloured flip - you just know that all those fans would flock to buy one - hell, even I would...

      Not sure I would... modern cell phones are a good bit more svelte then the old ST:ToS communicators (If I remember correctly what they looked like when the crew was holding one of them.). Although with the push-to-talk craze, we're almost back to using cell phones the way they used communicators on the show. You know, holding them in front of you instead of up to your ear like a regular phone.

      (Of course, my PalmOS Kyocera QCP6035 isn't exactly the smallest cell phone on the planet either... so who am I to talk?)

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    5. Re:Uh, I can't really remember by Tekoneiric · · Score: 1

      Tricorders were envisioned at a time before technology started converging. PDAs are more like a merger of Tricorders and Datapads. Add cell functions and it adds a communicator the mix. What would make PDAs more Tricorder like is using external sensors that have BlueTooth connectivity. Even on TNG they had Tricorders with specialized medical remotes. PDAs have the potential of being a far more flexible device than Tricorders ever would be.

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  17. Don't tricorders scan things? by CanadianCrackPot · · Score: 1, Interesting

    These don't scan (unless they have a digital camera), I would think this is more like a padd from the shows. A nice handy little data storage and display device.
    Now I'll be really impressed if they can replicate the function where you can control the entire station from one padd (theoretically).

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  18. What's not reported is... by hazman · · Score: 2, Funny

    that the RIAA, MPAA and Microsoft have formed an alliance to go after the X-Prize.

  19. Damn it, Jim by ch-chuck · · Score: 2, Funny

    we need warp engines, and photon torpedoes!

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    1. Re:Damn it, Jim by Kippesoep · · Score: 1

      Forget photon torpedoes. Gimme a transporter!

  20. Re:Tricoders? by shadowxtc · · Score: 1

    lol :) I can't believe on slashdot of all sites this slipped!

  21. cool... by Maljin+Jolt · · Score: 1

    But I run Familiar Linux on my iPaq.

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  22. Sensationalize much? by Accipiter · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Jesus Christ, that's one of the stupidest headlines ever to appear on this site. First, it's spelled wrong. It's "Tricorder" and not "Tricoder."

    Secondly, these things are not anything even resembling the functions of a tricorder. I read the headline and was instantly thinking, "Wow, a handheld scanning tool. That should be cool." But no, I read on to find it's a stupid unmodified iPAQ. They don't do sensing, they don't take readings, and they don't scan anything. It's not a tricorder, and it's not ALMOST a tricorder. It's a goddamned PDA.

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    1. Re:Sensationalize much? by KingRob · · Score: 1

      Yeah... but... it _could_ be a tricoder! Star Trek Gadgets and Star Trek Uhura give me wood, so leave my fragile world alone.

    2. Re:Sensationalize much? by pcmanjon · · Score: 1

      I totally agree with parent and don't understand why in the hell this submission was submitted with a falsified headline.

      It's really a big let down to see "OMG A TRICORDER WOW" and find out it's a PDA.

      *sigh*

      Another article that should have been rejected due to falsified info, or edited.

  23. that's good, but... by VanillaCoke420 · · Score: 1

    ...can they detect some sort of energyfield of an unknown kind?

    1. Re:that's good, but... by Drooling+Iguana · · Score: 1

      For TNG it would probably have "quantum" in there somewhere, too. For Voyager, add "gravimetric."

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  24. Re:Tricoders? by MisterLawyer · · Score: 3, Funny

    No, definitely not. I'm absolutely certain he was referring to TriCoders.

  25. If I were you... by Kjella · · Score: 1

    ...I wouldn't use the phrases "self-delusion" and "my interstellar spacecraft" in the same sentence...

    Kjella

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    1. Re:If I were you... by dupper · · Score: 1

      That whoosing sound you hear? It ain't an X-Wing flying over your head.

  26. hmmm... only 2 of them? by uv_light · · Score: 1

    ok, think about it, they are bringing only 2 of them up there, and they have to leave it there. If they have the money to build a rocket and other research materials, why not just give each of the Astronote an iPaq. I am pretty sure the iPaqs cost nothing compare to the space shuttle itself.

    are they trying to cut back the cost? makes me wonder.

  27. Calendar? by 6Yankee · · Score: 5, Funny

    Monday: Float about and do stuff

    Tuesday: Float about and do stuff

    Wednesday: Float about and do stuff

    Thursday: Float about and do stuff

    Friday: Float about and do stuff

    Saturday: It's the weekend! Float about and do stuff

    Sunday: Float about and put next week's calendar in

    1. Re:Calendar? by tct25 · · Score: 1

      Oh boy, here come the PIM wars... Astronaut1: "Everybody knows Pocketinformant is *the* killer app." Astronaut2: "Uh, I don't think so... Check out this Agenda Fusion feature." Astro1: "Hey! What's that behind you..." Astro2: "Huh?" Computer: Emergency decompression complete. Have a nice day.

  28. Re:Tricoders? by DanThe1Man · · Score: 5, Funny

    lol :) I can't believe on slashdot of all sites this slipped!

    You must be new here.

  29. Re:Tricoders? by Spunk · · Score: 5, Funny

    I believe the term is "a fucking PDA"

  30. I bet they'd rather have a phaser by Satan's+Hand+Puppet · · Score: 2, Funny

    TOS has taught me that one can never underestimate the power and many uses of the Mark II phaser.

    Tricorders are for all those Next Generation do-gooders. Hand me a hand phaser, and I'll explore space the Kirk way.

    One dead alien at a time.

    1. Re:I bet they'd rather have a phaser by Russ+Nelson · · Score: 1

      (Score: 5, Funny)

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  31. Too advanced by cybermace5 · · Score: 4, Funny

    While they don't have a full complement of sensors, the practical limit being perhaps sensing some coded IR signals, their display technology far outstrips any tricorder's. HP should rework them into a version where the TFT display is removed, and replaced with a random assortment of LEDs and bargraph displays which convey information via flickering coded signals.

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  32. Re:Tricoders? by 2sheds · · Score: 1

    No - it's clearly a PADD!

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  33. Palm would be better by gilesjuk · · Score: 1

    Although I own a Pocket PC and like the range of available software, the Palm OS has always been less hassle. Windows Mobile has many of the weaknesses of Windows on the desktop.

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  35. Re: Space radiation... by MisterLawyer · · Score: 1
    Are these devices shielded against space radiation?

    Are the astronauts shielded by radiation?

    The humans and the devices are inside this thing called a space station that's designed to block space radiation.

  36. Scan for structural integrity by ChronoWiz · · Score: 2, Funny

    Good, now maybe they can scan the structural integrity of the ISS to find out exactly what part of it is falling apart and detaching into space or perhaps what the loud metallic noise is.

    1. Re:Scan for structural integrity by miketang16 · · Score: 1

      wow.. someone who didn't even rtf article _blurb_

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    2. Re:Scan for structural integrity by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      And scan that 'Strangely warm' damp spacesuit to figure out where all the moisture came from.

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    3. Re:Scan for structural integrity by ChronoWiz · · Score: 1

      Yeah I read it, I know they aren't *real* tricorders, hence the joke.

  37. RIAA? by dimss · · Score: 2, Funny

    What? They will listen to mp3s? Will RIAA raid ISS for pirated music?

  38. Re:Tricorders? Absolutely not. by multipartmixed · · Score: 1

    Tricorder gather data with sensors, and analyze it. These do not! They are more like PADDs.

    http://toshitin.hp.infoseek.co.jp/library/padd.j pg

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  39. Re: Space radiation... by Ba3r · · Score: 1

    I wouldn't be surprised if there are some pretty hefty EM fields in the ISS, which would probably impact really really small transistors running really fast (such as modern processors). After all, heavy industry often needs to worry about EM interference in factories, and thus cannot use some of the high speed transfers that consumers have. Humans, of course, are impacted by big EM fields; like all those reports of people getting cancer living under big powerlines....

  40. sorry for the incredible geekedness of this post by Sarreq+Teryx · · Score: 1

    but they're more like padds than tricorders aren't they?

  41. Biggest problem with PADDs by Stavr0 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Most PocketPC have their "My Documents" folder in main memory (volatile RAM). If an crewmember forgets to dock their PDA or a battery fails, they may lose all their documents. There is a secondary battery, but it's not perfect.

    Workarounds:
    1. Stock each PDA with a 1GB mem card
    2. Dock early and often (automatic backup on docking)!
    3. Wifi to the ISS servers.

    Finally an obligatory Trekkie comments: They're more like PADDs not Tricorders, you insensitive p'tahks!

  42. Re:Rugged!? by Bastian · · Score: 1

    The one iPaq (really a string of three of them - more later) I've had experience with was anything but rugged. In fact, the damn thing was so fault-prone the iPaq alone was all the convincing I needed to quit even thinking about switching away from Palm.

    A bud of mine bought his iPaq about a year and a half ago. Twice since then, the iPaq has gone completely kaput - wouldn't turn on, couldn't be revived. He got it replaced both times, but a device that fails after 7 or 8 months of normal use isn't exactly what I call rugged. (He does take care of them, btw.) This current one isn't without problems, either - most annoying of all, it can't maintain a reliable 802.11b connection even from a few feet away from the WAP. That, and it's about due for its critical failure, too. We'll see in a month or two.

  43. Weight savings by gobbo · · Score: 1
    I'm sure they'll develop a good appreciation for their use as an ebook (as explored in this recent discussion). Why boost a bunch of cellulose into space when you can beam it up?

  44. Note to self! by argStyopa · · Score: 1

    The iPAQs will be left on the station and reconfigured for future crews

    Note to self: delete pr0n before leaving station!

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  45. Hey.. by bigattichouse · · Score: 1

    Something the fileshare networks haven't considered... orbital filesharing (nice big sat with a big nasty raid, lots of shielding), outside the jurisdiction of - well - everyone excepting the military.

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  46. What a joke by Hellraisr · · Score: 1

    This has to be the most over-embellished headline that I have ever seen.

  47. I thought NASA wanted to IMPROVE reliability?! by gearmonger · · Score: 1
    Pocket PC's? Really??

    Or is this because the Space Station is actually funded by Microsoft and is just a floating Exchange server with the world's most efficient cooling system?

    1. Re:I thought NASA wanted to IMPROVE reliability?! by Russ+Nelson · · Score: 1

      How do you know it's not running Linux?

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  48. That's not a tricorder... by glenmark · · Score: 1

    ...This is a tricorder...

    I did R&D on its mercuric iodide-based predecessor in the early 90's, although that was more of a "luggable" xrf analyzer...

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  49. Re:Tricoders? by connorbd · · Score: 1

    Yeah, definitely. It only gets to be a tricorder if you add the sensor package.

    What I want to know is why I can't buy a tricorder if I want one... the technology is there for a basic model. Take a standard PDA -- doesn't matter if it's PocketPC or Palm. Make sure it's got a camera (preferably with IR capabilities) and a very large stick of flash attached, then create some sensor modules. Temperature, pressure, and maybe magnetic field sensing could be built in, along with hookups for probes of various sorts -- presto, a 21st century tricorder. I garon-damn-tee they'd sell like crazy to schools and colleges for science lab use, not to mention the custom sensor packages you could create for industry.

  50. You may be on to something! by SgtSnorkel · · Score: 1


    ...why not just give each of the Astronote...

    Instead of calling it a "Tricoder" [sic], call it an "AstroNote"

    1. Re:You may be on to something! by uv_light · · Score: 1

      oops, I copied the wrong word, that's what they use in the article, AstroNote instead of Tricoder, if you look at the linked article

      my spelling is not so good, therfore when I look for the word astronauts in the article, I found the wrong word. lol, lucky I didn't get any AstroNut instead. :)

  51. Is the Ipaq a Windows or Linux device? by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

    I do not remember.

    man, they make my b/w palm look quite primptive in comparison. These things are more like a real pc.

    THank you palm for destroying your marketshare by not innovating. Sadly I hate ms but they have the better beast. A windows pocketpc can even run dvd divx's!

  52. Shocking... absolutely shocking... by EmagGeek · · Score: 1

    Astronauts using PDAs to do what PDAs were designed for... who woulda thunk it?

  53. Re:Tricoders? by shadowxtc · · Score: 1

    Please note - I did not use the uppercase form :). The lowercase lol-bearers actually are from the fertile plains of IRC, not the underpriveleged AOL lowlands.

  54. Re:Tricoders? by typobox43 · · Score: 1

    Just watch out for the LoL!1!-ers. They came from this obscure realm known as Quakenet, riding their floodbots.

  55. Tools add-on? Get scientific use. by Lotharjade · · Score: 1

    Are they going to create scientific tools to add on? That way use them for more than just connectivity and entertainment. Much more Tricordy as well.

    Record temp, magnatism, pressure, various environmental variables, noise, radiation, etc... Plus add on a camera with IR and other capabilities. Have all data run via WIFI at points to save to a large hard drive. Let the scientists on the ground review later.

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  56. Re:Tricoders? by shadowxtc · · Score: 1

    Would have been better?