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Fix a Troubled Mac

rossetti writes with this review of Fix a Troubled Mac, v1.3. "If you run a busy creative design business, you've encountered your fair share of Mac problems like failed tape backups, incorrect network settings, missing CD installers, flashing start-up disks. Macs are not as trouble free as one is led to believe. Running a studio environment with 20 or more Macs does cost money to keep everything working smoothly. It may be only an hour here or there, but this can easily balloon your IT support budget to over $10K a year. If this sounds like your problem, then this book is definitely for you. It takes you through step by step assistance for troubleshooting numerous issues, be it hardware, or networking or software, Mac OS 9 or Mac OS X. Once you start reading or referring to this book for advice, it really feels like having your own Mac-friendly IT support person with you all the times, but not at the hourly rate that they usually charge." Read on for the rest of rossetti's review. Fix A Troubled Mac author dirtymouse pages 196 publisher dirtymouse rating 9 reviewer rossetti ISBN n/a summary The book is written for advanced Mac users and aimed at creative studio and production environments and for anyone that is looking after a number macs

This is the only book that I'm aware of that gives you troubleshooting assistance like it should be. I've never encountered a chapter in any book that is dedicated to helping one create an emergency firewire drive, or a bootable Mac CD-ROM that will boot essentially any modern Macintosh, let alone, explain which software troubleshooting tools to use, or how to set up system software for quick reinstalls. In addition to this, the writer takes you on a guided course on how to approach the command line (for brave Mac OS X users) to fix start-up problems and corrupted user logins.

Fix a Troubled Mac is densely packed with information presented in a light, easy-to-read way. It accelerates you through basic information towards in-depth and advanced topics -- even if you get left behind, what remains in your head are relevant and well-formed concepts and frameworks. As the author mentions at intervals, this book approaches running a Mac studio in a holistic manner. Having said that, the therapy of the individual computer user is not overlooked. Even a computer-literate person with two or three Macs in a SOHO setting will benefit.

The first chapter of the book, "Be Your Own IT Support" covers concepts on how to approach problems. Starting with the basics like the Cardinal Rules (Ask yourself, "what has changed lately?"). From there it's a nice, easy, sometimes humorous introduction to how networks work. After a few pages, much of the bafflement that is computer-related pain begins to ease, furrows recede, clock speed returns to normal. Such simple ideas, such profound effects. Perhaps this book could be subtitled 'The Tao of Mac.'

This book does indeed read like a distillation of 6 years of a Mac technician's life, filled with numerous methods to efficiently and effectively diagnose and repair troubled Macs. From paper-bag solutions for a beige box with the hiccups, to rolling out a customized OS X laboratory in less than a day, this book will walk you through the higher realms of careful planning and execution.

Very little information in this book is dedicated to the beginner. If that is my only criticism of the book then let that stand. Like any good thriller, at times you will find yourself with heart beating and sweat on your brow (when did I last back up?). Even hardened professionals will find themselves taking unhealthy interest in particular chapters.

A whole chapter of the book is dedicated to the creation of an emergency firewire drive, which is referred to again and again throughout the book and although creating one may seem arduous, you quickly learn how to use these tools to repair, recover and restore after disasters, as well as install new systems and software updates quickly. The author makes extensive references to some software essentials like Carbon Copy Cloner and NetRestore by bombich software.

There are a lot of recommendations of various software tools and their uses. Many of these tools are inexpensive, but of course there are the usual heavyweights like Retrospect and Disk Warrior. Helpfully, each tool's precious place in your toolbox is analyzed and explained, along with the situation and manner in which to use it.

Reading this book cover to cover, one of the things I found confusing was the order in which topics were presented. Of course, such a book isn't generally used in this way, and given its electronic and search/click nature, it doesn't cause any real difficulty. It may be off-putting to some, to each his own.

In keeping with its holistic backbone, the book doesn't make assumptions about the flavor of your studio's environment. Just as much coverage is given to Mac OS 9 based Macintoshes as to the Mac OS X side. There is a large section devoted to running a Mac Studio with Mac OS X Server, including hardware, software and configuration tips and guidelines.

Much of the technical knowledge contained in these pages is freely (as in free, sans-cost) available on the internet. Some of the information is quoted (and attributed) directly from such sources. However, finding this information online yourself can be very time consuming and this book addresses that problem, with well researched links that extend on the information presented, should you need it. Having all these weblinks in one document also has its benefits. This is a integrated guide and a distillation of core issues and key tips earned through (someone else's) blood, sweat and tears (not yours). And of course, in the event of system failure, even Google stops working.

There are many Macintosh books out there, so this book finds itself in a very competitive arena. However, it has several advantages over many of these books. Firstly, its in electronic format, and is therefore quickly searchable. The author recommends at the beginning of every chapter how to mine the book's information. Secondly, all references to other sections of the book are hyper-linked for quick access and all external references are hyper-linked as well. Thirdly, the book is available on a subscription basis. This may seem an expensive option, but a subscription means the information will be kept up to date and expanded as new techniques and technologies become available. Perhaps one of the few disadvantages is that in the event of emergency, the book may be stuck on your machine. (It's certainly one of those precious items to be stored on your USB stick, iPod or emergency CD-ROM .)

With a guide like this, you can quit moonlighting as fixit guy and go back to your day job.

You can download or subscribe to the electronic-only Fix a Troubled Mac through the book's official site. Slashdot welcomes readers' book reviews -- to see your own review here, carefully read the book review guidelines, then visit the submission page.

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  1. Re: How to Fix a Troubled Mac by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Wake up, it was only a nightmare!

    It's funny, laugh.

  2. Horrors by jdigriz · · Score: 5, Funny

    Over 10K a year, gasp! =p

    1. Re:Horrors by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 1

      It feels like 10K a year is what it takes just maintaining five Windows computers.

    2. Re:Horrors by AusG4 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      In one sense, it's always good when a decent book comes out that helps people do their own in-house maintenance. While there will always be a need for people of our (ie, the Slashdot community) talents, I can't tell you how helpful it is to have a client be able to do their own basic troubleshooting before calling us to ask how to plug in an ethernet cable.

      On the other hand, a $10,000 a year support budget is a dream come true for most shops with 20 machines. Often, 20 machines of any type generally warrant at least one in-house support person to keep everything running smoothly, and even at part time, you could spend well over $10,000 on such an employee, as the parent pointed out.

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      SunOS panda 5.10 Generic sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-2
    3. Re:Horrors by madman101 · · Score: 1

      It feels like 10K a year is what it takes just maintaining five Windows computers.
      Boy, i wish you'd sell that formula to my boss! I'd be making $300,000/year!

    4. Re:Horrors by rf600r · · Score: 1

      you mean month. Seriously.

    5. Re:Horrors by madman101 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Only if you're completely and totally incompetent. Seriously.

    6. Re:Horrors by gnu-generation-one · · Score: 1

      "Over $10K a year, gasp!"

      Whoa! You could keep a Windows computer running for almost a week with that kind of money!

    7. Re:Horrors by mabhatter654 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Remember that Mac shops are more likely to be power users rather than gearheads. Mac training is all about the apps rather than running the OS. By the time you have a working knowlage and experince in all the usual mac programs you have a good enough handle on the OS...but you're still not a tech. Meaning that They are more likely to need to call somebody in once every other month for a "checkup" at field service rates because they just can't fix it. Graphic design firms are also more likely to be more "highly" paid too and computers "are" their business [if the computer's not up, they're not designing!!!] so it's more efficent business wise to call the pros in right away than suffer thru it like in Windoze land.

      Another way to look at it is that Macs don't have ENOUGH problems to warrant a full time tech! meaning that mac support is a highly paid "niche" service like copy machine repair rather than being everywhere like MCSEs.

  3. i welcome our new ... uh ... wait ... by jamesbrown1000 · · Score: 2, Funny

    As someone who makes his living fixing such problems for similarly situated companies:

    Can't we get the religious right to find some sort of sinful part of this book that they can use to get it banned?

    "Installing the RAM," maybe?

    --
    Mindy: "Well...desserts aren't always right." Homer: "But they're so sweet!"
    1. Re:i welcome our new ... uh ... wait ... by loyalsonofrutgers · · Score: 4, Funny

      Everyone knows dealing with macintoshes is witchcraft...

      CROWD: A witch! A witch! A witch! We've got a witch! A witch!
      VILLAGER #1: We have found a witch, might we burn it?
      CROWD: Burn it! Burn!
      BEDEVERE: How do you know it is a witch?
      VILLAGER #2: It looks like one.
      BEDEVERE: Bring it forward.
      MACINTOSH: I am not a witch!.
      BEDEVERE: But you are modded as one.
      MACINTOSH: They modded me up like this.
      CROWD: No, we didn't -- no.
      MACINTOSH: And this isn't my power button, it's a false one.
      BEDEVERE: Well?
      VILLAGER #1: Well, we did do the power button.
      BEDEVERE: The power button?
      VILLAGER #1: And the DVD tray -- but it is a witch!
      CROWD: Burn it! Witch! Witch! Burn it!
      BEDEVERE: Did you case mod it up like this?
      CROWD: No, no... no ... yes. Yes, yes, a bit, a bit.
      BEDEVERE: What makes you think it is a witch?
      VILLAGER #3: Well, it organized my photographs easily... and it's stable! It doesn't crash.
      BEDEVERE: Your photographs?
      VILLAGER #3: I got a digital camera, you know, for christmas.
      VILLAGER #2: Burn it anyway!
      CROWD: Burn! Burn it!
      BEDEVERE: Quiet, quiet. Quiet! There are ways of telling whether it is a witch.
      CROWD: Are there? What are they?
      BEDEVERE: Tell me, what do you do with witches?
      VILLAGER #2: Burn!
      CROWD: Burn, burn them up!
      BEDEVERE: And what do you burn apart from witches?
      VILLAGER #1: More witches!
      VILLAGER #2: CDs!
      BEDEVERE: So, why do witches burn?
      [pause]
      VILLAGER #3: B--... 'cause they're made of CDs...?
      BEDEVERE: Good!
      CROWD: Oh yeah, yeah...
      BEDEVERE: So, how do we tell whether it is made of CDs?
      VILLAGER #1: Put it in a boom box.
      BEDEVERE: Aah, but can you not also put cassettes into a boom box?
      VILLAGER #2: Oh, yeah.
      BEDEVERE: Is a CD not round, like a frozen pizza?
      VILLAGER #1: Yes, yes it is!.
      BEDEVERE: And what does one do with a frozen pizza?
      VILLAGER #1: Eat it!
      VILLAGER #2: Make a book!
      VILLAGER #3: Throw it into the river!
      VILLAGER #1: Burn it!
      VILLAGER #2: Sit on it!
      VILLAGER #1: Cherries!
      VILLAGER #2: Lead -- lead!
      ARTHUR: You microwave it.
      CROWD: Oooh.
      BEDEVERE: Exactly! So, logically...,
      VILLAGER #1: If... it cooks... in a microwave... it's made of CDs!
      BEDEVERE: And therefore--?
      VILLAGER #1: A witch!
      CROWD: A witch!

    2. Re:i welcome our new ... uh ... wait ... by chasingporsches · · Score: 1

      and then the left would find some word that looks like "God" in it when you blur your vision and not only allow the banning, but disallow it from being in any Courthouse :-)

    3. Re:i welcome our new ... uh ... wait ... by dirtymouse · · Score: 1

      i managed to get it banned in ireland..

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    4. Re:i welcome our new ... uh ... wait ... by SYFer · · Score: 3, Funny

      Who are you that are so wise in the ways of computer science?

      --
      "...all the labours of the ages, all the devotion, all the inspiration, all the noonday brightness..." yada yada
  4. Hmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    this book is definitely for you

    And if it were Windows, you would need a whole library!


    Lighten up. Its a joke

  5. The good ole days by Prince+Vegeta+SSJ4 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I remeber back in the days (mid to late 80's), when I had my MAC II. 256 colors w00t.

    Anyhow, I used to mess with the innards of the computer quite a bit, and ended up breaking one of the pins off of the Motorla 608040 chip. I Proceded to fix it with a piece of copper speaker wire.

    Try doing that today with one of these new fangled *ntium chips.

    1. Re:The good ole days by greechneb · · Score: 5, Funny

      simple solution: don't use a prybar to remove chips!

      Use a big magnet or slip-joint pliers!

    2. Re:The good ole days by macrealist · · Score: 1

      Try doing that today with one of these new fangled *ntium chips.

      Or any other chip designed in this century.br

      --
      I am living proof of the Peter Principle
    3. Re:The good ole days by Nykon · · Score: 2, Interesting

      yeah on mine, I had to run some games in 256 B&W because it'd run too slow in color mode :(

      --
      "It's better to be a pirate then join the Navy"
    4. Re:The good ole days by pilgrim23 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There is one Mac manual I treasured: Macweek Upgrading and Repairing Your Mac by Lisa Lee. This book covers the Macintosh from the early 128 through iirc the 7500-8500 604e PPC based boxes. Lee is an EXCELLENT writer and inclused everything from motherboard lay-outs ofr easy memory upgrades, to a section on Sad Mac error codes and early viri (remember nVIR-A?). I have read many technical books, but this one was well organized, well thought out, easy and pleasureable to read and an excellent source for looking up that obscure memory SIMM needed to upgrade a MAC IIfx later. I wish she would write a update.

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      - Minutus cantorum, minutus balorum, minutus carborata descendum pantorum.
    5. Re:The good ole days by wankledot · · Score: 1
      Not to be a bitch, but the II never had an 040 (68040 to be exact) the quadra series was the first mac with one.

      The IIfx (MSRP $9,900) had a 40Mhz 68030, the fastest in the II line.

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      My sig is blank, I typed this by hand.
    6. Re:The good ole days by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 1
      Try doing that today with one of these new fangled *ntium chips.

      You wouldn't need to. Since *ntium chips use ZIF sockets, you wouldn't have broken the pin off in the first place.

    7. Re:The good ole days by JessLeah · · Score: 1

      First of all, it's "Mac II", not "MAC II". "MAC", as in "Macintosh", is not an acronym.

      Secondly, it's "68040", not "608040".

      Thirdly, the Mac II did not have a 68040. It had a 68000.

    8. Re:The good ole days by JessLeah · · Score: 1

      It's not nitpicking. It's doing my small part to slow the society-wide degradation of all knowledge. Even reputable news sources now get computer history wrong, use "it's" instead of "its", and so on.

    9. Re:The good ole days by ashmon · · Score: 1

      How do you know they broke off the pin putting the cpu into its socket? Those 68000 chips were great as a bed of needles. Maybe he rolled over on it funny. He is a prince, you know.

    10. Re:The good ole days by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I remeber back in the days (mid to late 80's), when I had my MAC II. 256 colors w00t.

      if you are old enough to have been messing with the innards of a mac ii in the mid 80s then, by god, you are far too old to be saying w00t.

    11. Re:The good ole days by Reziac · · Score: 1

      Nah, use Vise-Grips.

      You think I'm kidding, eh??

      Someone sent me a "dead" PC. Opened it up to find the innards so clogged with cig smoke residue you couldn't even SEE the CPU fan, and when I unearthed it, the fan literally crumbled in my hands. Well, I guess that explains why the system locks up 30 seconds after being powered on... it had been so hot the motherboard and CPU slot were both scorched and warped, and I actually had to use Vise-Grips to extract the P3-500 CPU from its slot.

      The motherboard was toast (in fact, the smoke was leaking out of the video circuit), but amazingly, on being given a working fan and put on a live motherboard, the CPU revived, and has run stable 24/7 ever since.

      Remember, if it can't be fixed with Vise-Grips and baling wire**, it can't be fixed!

      (** city folk may substitute duct tape.)

      --
      ~REZ~ #43301. Who'd fake being me anyway?
  6. This Comment May Be Slightly Off Topic by Ieshan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This comment might be slightly off topic, as I don't usually work with Macs and I've never read this book. However, I spend the majority of my days in front of a windows or linux machine, of various flavors (come on, as much as we like to joke, different versions of windows have different functionality).

    The problem with writing tech support books, to be honest, is that google is faster. We have tech support books in the lab (research lab), but they're just not as quick as google. Google-ing error messages almost always pops up with exactly what you need to do to fix it or a related "problem" page. Googling specific keywords for problems without error messages almost always comes up with solutions. I've almost never found a computer problem that google couldn't fix.

    Does this make me less of a "techie"? Not really. I mean, I know how to fix an awful lot of silly computer problems. But we all know that "Error 1278754874928375: No useful error message." comes up every once in a while, and we've got to find out how to fix it. Google seems to be the thing to use.

    For those who don't find google useful, some tips: Use quotes. Quote phrases that should be together. Use "-" signs to negate words you don't need, or common words that are associated with terms in your query but aren't related to your problem (drive -car). Just seems like tech support books have been outdated by the web.

    1. Re:This Comment May Be Slightly Off Topic by Paleomacus · · Score: 1

      The only advantage a dead tree book might have is that it is more likely to have a detailed, accurate explanation of the problem and solution. Most of the fixes I find on google don't explain the hows, whens and whys.

    2. Re:This Comment May Be Slightly Off Topic by Spamlent+Green · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I won't accuse you of being offtopic, but I will suggest you RTFA. (This is slashdot, so I'm reluctant to say "RTFA" but there, I said it.)

      The review does in fact state that most of this info is all in google -- but when your system is fried, good luck getting to google. (at least if it's your only machine.)

      That being said, I find it quite ironic that the book is not so much a book as it is a PDF file -- so one must have the foresight (and a ream or two of paper) to print it out in advance of any serious mishap.

    3. Re:This Comment May Be Slightly Off Topic by nharmon · · Score: 1

      I agree. Another problem with tech books, is that the systems it addresses change faster than the author can revise the book.

      Not to mention the fact that many "do it yourselfers" get in over their head in projects, and end up paying more for someone to come in and fix the the previous wrong work than would have costed if they had called the professional in the first place. Not to say it can't be done, but a man needs to know his limitations.

    4. Re:This Comment May Be Slightly Off Topic by Otter · · Score: 5, Interesting
      That's one of the big differences between Linux and Mac troubleshooting. With Linux, you face a zillion discrete, distinct problems for which you have to find the particular fix (eg, why my Athlon/VIA/Gentoo box won't power off with kernels after 2.4.19).

      With Macs, you tend to run into a relatively small number of predictable problems. This book sounds like it lays the groundwork for preparing for problems -- and then when they come up, you fix them.

    5. Re:This Comment May Be Slightly Off Topic by Ieshan · · Score: 1

      I already had.

      And I read that part.

      But I didn't think the reviewer did a very good job addressing the issue: "Why should I pay for lots of information that I'm fairly sure I'm never going to need to pay for?"

      I think that in the 'net connected world, if you've got a pricey new Mac, you're likely to have other resources that are faster and more efficent at your fingertips.

    6. Re:This Comment May Be Slightly Off Topic by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 1

      Google is incredibly handy. Despite that, I do buy the occasional technical book because it doesn't require power or a network to operate.

      Generally what I do for an unfamiliar topic is buy the basic book. That basic book gets me started, especially to show me the miscellaneous jargon and common gotchas. From there, I know what to look for online.

    7. Re:This Comment May Be Slightly Off Topic by Ieshan · · Score: 5, Funny

      Sorry to reply to your comment twice. Also of note, from the book's official website:

      "The book is written for advanced Mac users (not newbies) and aimed at creative studio and production environments and for anyone that is looking after 5-50 macs (less than 5 and greater than 50 is fine too ;-)"

      5-50 macs is quite a few. If you fry them all at once, you've got a fucking talent for it. =)

    8. Re:This Comment May Be Slightly Off Topic by tverbeek · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Google is truly a gift from the gods when dealing with error messages, but not so much help in figuring out what to do when the machine just does something weird or hard to describe, or is quite simply "dead". Those sorts of problems can only be solved through a combination of experience, intuition, and logic, and I can see how reading through a book of this sort might be a good supplement if your experience is lacking. There's way too much variety of stuff out there to deal with in the Windows and Linux realms, but the smaller set of Mac-compatible hardware and software (and combinations thereof) makes it more feasible to distill "common problems" into a book like this.

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    9. Re:This Comment May Be Slightly Off Topic by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 1

      Better than google for me is WebFerret and programs like it that allow you to search on "exact phrase".

      --
      SJW: a person who perceives an injustice, and while correcting it, commits a greater injustice.
    10. Re:This Comment May Be Slightly Off Topic by tzanger · · Score: 1

      Actually, googling for "Error 1278754874928375" shows up nothing. :-)

    11. Re:This Comment May Be Slightly Off Topic by aldoman · · Score: 1

      I disagree. If hardware is dead, usually its a dead PSU/Mobo or CPU. The best way to check it is just by replacing components - if a big part fails, eg mobo, salvage the rest and build a new system or get replacement parts. I don't think 'dead' problems are very common now - even BIOSes are much more helpful than they used to be at diagnosing problems.

    12. Re:This Comment May Be Slightly Off Topic by Suppafly · · Score: 1

      Are you implying that google doesn't allow you to search for "exact phrases"?

    13. Re:This Comment May Be Slightly Off Topic by zeroclip · · Score: 1

      but when your system is fried, good luck getting to google.

      What! someone has less than 5 PC's?

    14. Re:This Comment May Be Slightly Off Topic by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 1

      From what I've seen, not very well. It does better than the Microsoft Knowledge Base, but it seems to include documents that have the same words, but out of order. Due to this, most of the time when I use Google for tech support, I end up having to wade through about 25% of the documents not being relevant to what I'm searching for- and that's a problem.

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      SJW: a person who perceives an injustice, and while correcting it, commits a greater injustice.
    15. Re:This Comment May Be Slightly Off Topic by Suppafly · · Score: 1

      have you tried putting quotes around what you are searching for?

    16. Re:This Comment May Be Slightly Off Topic by FireBreathingDog · · Score: 1

      As a capitalist pig, I probably shouldn't be helping out a Marxist Hacker, put you can put quotes around the phrase, and that will force Google to search for the words *only* in your specified order.

    17. Re:This Comment May Be Slightly Off Topic by dirtymouse · · Score: 1



      yes, google is faster and more up to date. google it. but then when you look for that webpage and it returns a 404. bugger mate. this book brings order to finding info quickly (and with or without a net connection).

      dirtymouse

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    18. Re:This Comment May Be Slightly Off Topic by sam1am · · Score: 1

      "when you look for that webpage and it returns a 404"

      Well, that's what Google's cache feature is for.

      And the Internet Archive/Wayback machine

    19. Re:This Comment May Be Slightly Off Topic by SphericalCrusher · · Score: 1

      And that's a very good thing, but you say that you spend most of your time in front of a Windows and Linux machine -- have you ever used a Mac enough to get an error? Did you try to Google that? Maybe I'm not looking in the right spot, or I'm not spending enough time searching, but solving Mac problems on Google is a lot harder task than that of Windows and Linux. It just seems that not too many people use Apple computers anymore... and that even the most complicated problems have many different ways to be fixed... and not all of them always work.

      With the purchase of my new eMac, I'm going to go pick this book up -- mainly as a reference manual. Mac troubleshooting interests me.

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      "Instant gratification takes too long." - Carrie Fisher
    20. Re:This Comment May Be Slightly Off Topic by Reziac · · Score: 1

      "5-50 macs is quite a few. If you fry them all at once, you've got a fucking talent for it. =)"

      Nah, that's easy. Burn down the whole building. :)

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      ~REZ~ #43301. Who'd fake being me anyway?
    21. Re:This Comment May Be Slightly Off Topic by CountBrass · · Score: 1
      "Why should I pay for lots of information that I'm fairly sure I'm never going to need to pay for?"

      Because I'm a geek and like reading shit like this (I just bought it and downloaded it). Did this really need saying on Slashdot?

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      Bad analogies are like waxing a monkey with a rainbow.
    22. Re:This Comment May Be Slightly Off Topic by tverbeek · · Score: 1

      I think you just supported my point. If the machine is "dead", Google probably isn't going to be of much help; you need to rely on experience and troubleshooting tactics.

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  7. Thinking of Switching to a OSX for a laptop by mackermacker · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm getting tired of playing engineer all the time for all the laptops I buy, running linux (usually XP Pro and BSD under vmware). Someone told me this when I mentioned about getting a Mac laptop: "They Just Work out of the box and all the time!". Is this really true?

    This concept is new to me, but I am looking into it more. If nothing else, they look awfully perty...Glowing apples are kinda cool.

    1. Re:Thinking of Switching to a OSX for a laptop by cbiffle · · Score: 2, Informative

      They do 'just work,' as long as you don't surprise them.

      I bought an iBook, my first Mac, in October. It's been basically trouble-free. I've had it crash once, by running strings(1) on an audio CD. This was apparently not something Apple had anticipated, but I've submitted the bug, so we'll see.

      The only hardware-compatibility issues I've had have been my eight-year-old Intel webcam (unsupported) and my father's bleeding-edge Sony external DVD-R (unsupported as a burner). Everything else has worked great.

      Frankly, I wouldn't go back to Linux on a laptop until suspend works properly. Having the system up in a second or so after opening the lid is quite pleasant.

    2. Re:Thinking of Switching to a OSX for a laptop by kableh · · Score: 1

      Try Yellowdog on that iBook yet? It supports suspend, as well as the Apple function keys, right out of the box.

    3. Re:Thinking of Switching to a OSX for a laptop by deputydink · · Score: 1
      dude. broken laptops are the least of your worries if you have a job that requires you to run strings(1) on audio cd's.

    4. Re:Thinking of Switching to a OSX for a laptop by jcostantino · · Score: 2, Insightful
      OSX is far more reliable than XP and if something completely screws the system, you run your recovery CD, select "Archive and Install / Preserve Users and Network Settings" then you have all your user data saved but new system software to start fresh with. That fixes everything but a corrupt user (obviously).

      The nice thing about OSX is that it's much easier to fix than XP. The archive and install process doesn't touch ANYTHING except the system folders and no personal information is there. It just disables them and moves them to a Previous Systems folder in case you need something.

      Having worked in many service departments before, most sofwtare problems are solved with a clean OS but you have to back up all the data and sometimes dig things out from hidden folders - having worked in an Apple reseller service department, it's just a clean install and pick through the previous system folder a bit.

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    5. Re:Thinking of Switching to a OSX for a laptop by Have+Blue · · Score: 1

      Pretty much, yes. Whatever you can say about the desktops, Apple laptops lead the industry.

    6. Re:Thinking of Switching to a OSX for a laptop by rampant+mac · · Score: 4, Informative
      I used Linux from 1995 to about 2001, and it was never really "quite there" in terms of usability. Windows is, well, Windows. Take that last comment with a grain of salt...

      I purchased a PowerMac in early 2002, and a year later, a PowerBook.

      Honestly, the hardest thing about moving over to a Mac was remembering how to delete a program: Just drag it to the trash. That's it. Simple and elegant. Panther has been ROCK SOLID for me. I *think* it's crashed once, but that might have been Jaguar (10.2).

      Instead of removing spyware, ensuring my OS is up to date, grabbing the latest virus definitions, dealing with system file conflicts, etc etc, I can actually BE productive. Open the lid and go... I never thought it could be so simple.

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    7. Re:Thinking of Switching to a OSX for a laptop by clem.dickey · · Score: 1

      > all the laptops I buy

      Gee, how many do you need? :-) Apples just run, mostly, depending on how hard you push them. You can check out the support boards at apple.com for grousing about battery controller software, hinges, dead motherboards, wrong permissions, bad RAM (usually not Apple's RAM) and the occasional program which dies with a "System Error."

      Of course all most of those troubles are history now that Apple has release MacOSX 10.3.4. You will be the proud owner of a mostly new set of problems. :-)

      I've had the same Apple laptop for 3 1/2 year and expect to keep it another year or two. You do want to get the AppleCare 3 year warranty. Service is (even more) expensive otherwise. Of seven Apple laptops in my immediate family, two or three have needed motherboard replacement.

    8. Re:Thinking of Switching to a OSX for a laptop by Ieshan · · Score: 2, Funny

      Instead of removing spyware, ensuring my OS is up to date, grabbing the latest virus definitions, dealing with system file conflicts, etc etc, I can actually BE productive. [my emphasis]

      Totally. You have far more slashdot posts an hour now.

    9. Re:Thinking of Switching to a OSX for a laptop by lakeesis · · Score: 5, Interesting
      I have to admit, as corny as it sounds, the Apple laptops do work right out of the box. No manufactured laptop will be absolutely perfect, but the system and hardware are generally worry-free.

      I've crashed my 12" PowerBook twice - the first time was an accident, the 2nd was a repeat of the behavior to make sure that it really was something I just shouldn't do [trying to open a finder window for a DVD while the system is pre-writing the file structure before burning said DVD]. This has actually made me incredibly impatient with the machines that I support for family, friends and work -- but it is an impatience I am happy to live with.

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    10. Re:Thinking of Switching to a OSX for a laptop by CdBee · · Score: 1

      Can only go by my own experience.... but it seems to be the case. The best example is installing OSX on a supported system, no need for drivers, no jiggery-pokery, it just installs then runs.

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    11. Re:Thinking of Switching to a OSX for a laptop by Dynedain · · Score: 1

      A beige G3 is a supported system for OSX. But if you replaced your CDRom with a 3rd party one because the original died...good luck getting OSX installed.

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    12. Re:Thinking of Switching to a OSX for a laptop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      The Repair install of XP does the exact same thing. Its a clean re-install of the OS files but leaves all apps, user accounts & profiles untouched.

      Now, you were saying?

    13. Re:Thinking of Switching to a OSX for a laptop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      True.

      I bought mine, and it was up and running and completely functional under five minutes. A few minutes later I had it on an unsecured wireless network and on the internet. I wasnt even *trying* to get on the 'net at this point. I was checking things out and a box popped up and asked me if I wanted to join the wireless network.

      My roomate must be sick, every few hours I pop in to her office to gloat about this feature or that well designed app.

      I am not a total mac head. I still use a menagerie of Winboxen and Linux machines on my desktop. However, I will have a mac laptop for the rest of my life. Get the three year extended warranty, know you will have a functioning laptop for three years. After three years, use it breaks big time and get a new laptop.

    14. Re:Thinking of Switching to a OSX for a laptop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Well, for what it's worth, a few days ago my 6-month old 17" Powerbook completely froze up on me and refused to boot. All I was doing was some light word processing at the time, so I have no idea what caused the problem.

      I managed to restore the operating system and all my data (some of which hadn't gotten backed up as I'm lazy and I only perform backups once every few weeks), but it was a bit of a pain. I had to first create a bootable installation on an external firewire drive that I had *just* purchased, move some data files over to it that I was paranoid I was going to lose, and then reinstall the OS over the old operating system.

      The biggest problem was that I had FileGuard turned on so I couldn't figure out where my home directory had gone off to. In fact, for a little while there I thought I'd taken a disk hit and had lost everything until I discovered where the encrypted FileGuard file actually was (it wasn't in my home directory because of the way the laptop had ceased to function unexpectedly).

      The upshot is, no computing system is truly trouble free and you should always be prepared for some problems. If you're buying a mac just because you think it's always going to 'just work', you might be disappointed. OTOH, current flailings not withstanding, I find the effort I have to put into Mac maintenance is much much less than maintaining either a Windows or Linux installation.

      - Anon

    15. Re:Thinking of Switching to a OSX for a laptop by lpangelrob2 · · Score: 1
      Well, while everyone's talking about their Mac stories, I'll share my pair. :-)

      My PowerBook's been wonderful. I'm a hardcore, impatient user, so it hangs and crashes... but not as often as Windows did. I would guess once a month. Maybe twice? The last one was caused by a digital camera and iPhoto not getting along.

      My finacee's iMac, however, is in pretty poor shape. Open iTunes? Crash. Open iCal? Crash. Open i??? Crash. Haven't figured it out yet (before the archive-and-reinstall, I thought something was busted in Cocoa Frameworks), but I fear that an erase-and-reinstall will be needed.

      So no, Macs aren't perfect, but they are (on average) better.

    16. Re:Thinking of Switching to a OSX for a laptop by gobbo · · Score: 1

      I use a clamshell iBook at work a good part of the day (and for awhile it doubled as a personal machine). It's exactly 4 years old and has been bashed around quite a bit, has had a battery and HD replacement, and the backlight is starting to dim. It only has an 800x600 screen (but Panther's Expose feature has made it useable again).

      Really, it's amazing. It runs for months without a reboot, on Panther. Latchless spring loaded lid: close to sleep (instant), open to wake (2 seconds). An average of 10 applications (MS Office, networking, and 2D creative apps) running under normal use, on a 366MHz G3, without much swapping. On and off various networks, simple and easy (well, finder-integrated ftp is still lousy, and SMB can be quirky, and I don't get full Novell support from campus IT, whatever).

      It's practically ruggedized, and has been dropped a few times and had toddlers pounding on it without mishap. I've slapped it down in the middle of a pub, pulled out a camera and firewire cable, and edited video on the spot. It's ugly but nice to touch and carry.

      Co-workers suggest I upgrade, but they're filmmakers and have bleeding-edge-itis. If I need to render or use a time-based app., I have G5's and big displays. This thing still works hard at everything else, 4 years later. It originally cost about US$1,500, and 4 years later it's worth around $550. Probably one of the most reliable and economical computers (TCO, ROI, resale value) I've ever owned or worked on--and it was their low-end consumer model.

      Plus I get to tease the WinXP-locked web designers here about being able to test sites on my own machine with a stock install of apache using a cross-platform array of worst-case scenario browsers (VirtualPC running Win98SE). Then they'll turn around and say that macs can hardly run any software! Wow.

    17. Re:Thinking of Switching to a OSX for a laptop by Achoi77 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      You are right, they DO work right out of the box, provided that you don't add anything else to them. ;-)

      Now that I think about it, OSX really IS stable, I've only got it to kernel panic once (last month on a panther -I was running Illustrator, Photoshop, Indesign, Quark, Sherlock, A terminal, Fontbook, Suitcase, Ichat, Itunes and Safari...I think it was Quark [like always] pushed it over the edge.) The problem now is the applications.. wait let me rephrase that: The problem is the FONTS that the applications must use.

      Fonts are the key to a regularly crashing Panther box, hands down. If you do not have more than a zillion fonts (with a jillion of them corrupt somewhere), then you won't have any problems with your mac. Unforunately, I don't have the time to sort thru all the fonts, so I just gotta trial-and-error it just to make sure I don't crash while I'm doing something critical.

      Fonts are a bitch, and I don't have the long-term time (and money) to clear this issue. In the mean time, I'll just keep on flowing with the occasional font-derived crashes. Luckily it hasn't driven me nuts yet, I used to work with os9. :-)

    18. Re:Thinking of Switching to a OSX for a laptop by kemapa · · Score: 1

      Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

    19. Re:Thinking of Switching to a OSX for a laptop by lakeesis · · Score: 1
      But hey, at least Apple still makes the most *expensive* personal computer on the market, right?

      er, actually, my 12" PowerBook was $500 cheaper than the equivalent laptop of any other make at the time it was released. that wasn't the case about 6 months later, but was when I purchased it.

      I don't believe that any company, including Apple, is perfect in their hardware implementation. zealots on both sides of the Apple/M$ flamewars argue that each company is eeevil [as in fru-its of the de-vil], and I believe that they have a good point. I also know, that though imperfect, I still haven't had any non-self-inflicted trouble with my machine.

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    20. Re:Thinking of Switching to a OSX for a laptop by MoneyT · · Score: 1

      Not quite, becuase if it did do that right, it would have found my NTLDR file which went missing or reinstalled it. It did neither.

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    21. Re:Thinking of Switching to a OSX for a laptop by the_2nd_coming · · Score: 2, Interesting

      yeah, and a support forum is about as representative of the Mac population as a cancer ward is of the Human population.

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    22. Re:Thinking of Switching to a OSX for a laptop by Halfbaked+Plan · · Score: 1

      Actually, my PowerBook 165c doesn't 'lead the industry' but it plods along very, very nicely.

      Sold the 1400 on eBay awhile back.

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    23. Re:Thinking of Switching to a OSX for a laptop by rhuntley12 · · Score: 1

      How long have you had it? I've only had to pull the battery on my laptop once in a year when Windows crashed, and never while running Linux. I haven't really ever seen a laptop that wasn't able to work right out of the box. The biggest problem I've seen is that crap software that comes preinstalled. I hate that.

    24. Re:Thinking of Switching to a OSX for a laptop by Socket+Scientist · · Score: 1
      Laptops with trackballs, ahh those were the days! A 165c was my first notebook and it was a beaut. Suspend worked great even back then in System 7. My 165c had a colour screen (all 256 of them) with video out and excellent connectivity -- built-in modem, ethernet, SCSI, PCMCIA and even infrared. It was pretty damn schweet in 1993! My friends with PC portables tried to call it a toy, but none of their lead bricks running DOS were as well equipped.

      Anyway thanks for prompting my little trip down memory lane! Back to the present though, the 1400 shoulda been waaay faster (i.e. 117 or more MHz vs 33 for the 165c) and it did finally have an internal optical drive, so I'm not sure I'd have made the same choice :-)

    25. Re:Thinking of Switching to a OSX for a laptop by lxt · · Score: 1

      My iBook (two years old) has worked straight out of the box, with no problems. I've even got several flavours of linux running on it.

      I did have one problem, though - a dead pixel. But a (rather long) phone call to Apple left me with a 200 cheque (because if I had 5 dead pixels they would have replaced the entire unit, so they took around a fifth of the unit value). I've also had some battery problems, but again I got a free replacement with no questions. ...and you're right, the are pretty. I'll never forget taking my iBook out in a meeting once and hearing somebody say "Wow - that's a big ipod" :)

    26. Re:Thinking of Switching to a OSX for a laptop by the+shoez · · Score: 1

      My Panther powerbook g4 crashes all the time - I suppose if you're just running textedit, finder and itunes the system will be ROCK SOLID.

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    27. Re:Thinking of Switching to a OSX for a laptop by Halfbaked+Plan · · Score: 1

      Built in ethernet on a Powerbook 165c? Now I've got something to strive for again.

      I didn't sell the 1400 in a period of time where it was that much better a machine than the 165c. The sale was earlier this year. The 165c has more 'classicness' than the 1400. It's important to keep around a classic Macintosh operating environment for reference and to run the old things that won't run on new systems. That 165c fills that need for me pretty well. I can also set up and use one of my SE/30's but the Powerbook is just so much more convenient.

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    28. Re:Thinking of Switching to a OSX for a laptop by Socket+Scientist · · Score: 1
      Built in ethernet on a Powerbook 165c? Now I've got something to strive for again.

      It had a dealer-installed, combination 14.4 modem and ethernet card -- the only one I ever had that accepted both RJ-11 and RJ-45 plugs in the same port. Very cool. Unfortunately I can't remember the brand name of the card and a quick Google didn't turn up anything except SCSI and serial port adaptor ethernet solutions for the 100 series.

      My two most favourite features of the 165c though were its smooth-working trackball (bring them back -- please!) and those awesome rotating rear legs that gave the perfect tilt to the keyboard.

    29. Re:Thinking of Switching to a OSX for a laptop by jcostantino · · Score: 1
      Umm, I was saying that out of all the times XP's recovery program has tried to fix an install of XP, I've had to wipe the drive out and start over because it doesn't work.


      Btw: if it did a clean re-install of the OS as you suggest, wouldn't it move the damaged directory out of the way and put a clean one in its place?


      PS: I forgot the #1 best part about OSX - no registry to get corrupted/slow down/kill a system from bloat.

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  8. Wait a minute! by stinkyfingers · · Score: 5, Funny
    Macs are not as trouble free as one is led to believe.!!!

    But that one girl saved Christmas with her Mac! If they put it on T.V., it must have been true.

    Good times!

    1. Re:Wait a minute! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      > But that one girl saved Christmas with her Mac! If they put it on T.V., it must have been true.

      Christmas? Jeff Goldblum saved the entire earth with a Mac.

  9. What a load of garbage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I don't know what he's been doing with his macs, but I run two labs (~120 machines) and have only had a handful of problems in the last 18 months since they were delivered, which were easily fixed (total time invested in maintainence: ~5 hours). The only real problem was with lousy software running in the classic environment, which I've mostly updated to OSX native apps. Even upgrading the entire lab to 10.3 Panther was a breeze.

    OSX is rock solid. Don't even get me started on the previous HP computers these Macs replaced.

    1. Re:What a load of garbage by macrealist · · Score: 2, Interesting

      which I've mostly updated to OSX native apps

      Bet just that took longer than ~5 hours. Remember, for a graphic design company, upgrading, fixing, etc. will count toward their IS support budget. $10k for suppporting 20 computers in a professional environment is not bad.

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    2. Re:What a load of garbage by macrealist · · Score: 2, Funny

      I don't know what you were doing with your Winboxes, but I run a corporation(~450,000 machines) and have only had one problem in the last 3 years since they were delivered, which was easily fixed (total time invested in maintainence: ~2 mins). The only real problem was with lousy software running without a proper Linux, which I've updated to an proprietary licence. Even upgrading the entire Company to SCO Linux license was a breeze through our lawyers. Windows XP is rock solid. Don't even get me started on the previous Mac Classic computers these PCs replaced.

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  10. Dirty little secret by John+Newman · · Score: 5, Funny
    Running a studio environment with 20 or more Macs does cost money to keep everything working smoothly. It may be only an hour here or there, but this can easily balloon your IT support budget to over $10K a year.
    Shh...do you want to send the IT profession into a death-spiral? If you say that any louder, companies might get the impression that maybe they don't need to staff a full-time MCSE-qualified IT worker at five to ten times that budget in order to keep a few dozen computers running happy. Maybe they just have to choose their platform more wisely. Goodbye, thousands of IT support jobs.
    1. Re:Dirty little secret by 0racle · · Score: 2, Funny

      A MCSE counts as qualified?

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  11. Insightful! by SteveM · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Can somebody point out the insightful part of the parent post?

    Thanks

    SteveM

    1. Re:Insightful! by mackermacker · · Score: 1

      Can somebody point out the insightful part of the parent post?

      Well, It is meant to ask a question, and hopefully get some feedback.

      The real question is, why do you sign your name, we know your SteveM

      Thanks

      mackermacker

    2. Re:Insightful! by CaptainBaz · · Score: 1

      Can somebody point out the insightful part of the parent post?

      Thanks

      Baz

    3. Re:Insightful! by SteveM · · Score: 1

      Well, It is meant to ask a question, and hopefully get some feedback.

      I have a 667MHz TiBook. It is the best machine I've ever owned. It isn't perfect (the WiFi reception could be better (supposedly fixed on newer models) and it feels a bit sluggish at times) but I much prefer it to my Windows Boxen, at home or at work. I used Unix in grad school and have toyed with Linux. But give me OS X over any of them.

      The real question is, why do you sign your name, we know your SteveM

      Habit LOL! (And it appears to be contagious ...)

      And I'm not sure my original post deserves to be +5 insightful either.

      Joe Schmanoli

  12. We could buy this book by Timesprout · · Score: 3, Funny

    But then we would miss out on the really suave, trendy support people apple send round to fix things for us. They tell us the latest fashions and give us advise on colour, they let us listen to their iPods so we know which indie bands are cool, helping to avoid embarassing faux pas in music conversations. Plus they have this cultivated look of practised distain I am trying to get my developers to adopt when someone says something stupid like 'WinXP is really not that bad for the casual user'.

    No without apple support people our lives would be so much poorer and so much more uncultured.

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  13. Mac's notoriously difficult... yay book by 192939495969798999 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Since I have years behind me in both the mac and PC world, I can honestly say that while Mac's have fewer problems, their problems are more serious, cryptic, and otherwise annoying. I am glad to see a book that compiles the often hard-to-find information... the big question: does it come with a paper clip for that disk drive button? :)

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    1. Re:Mac's notoriously difficult... yay book by Altus · · Score: 2


      what disk drive eject button?

      what are you... living in 1997?

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    2. Re:Mac's notoriously difficult... yay book by DLWormwood · · Score: 2
      what disk drive eject button?

      Believe it or not, certain modern Macs still have need for a paper clip or similar probe. The pinhole's just been moved to either the CD tray for Macs don't have CD eject buttons on the case or real early iMacs used a pinhole for the Programmer's Switch.

      OTOH, my flat panel iMac uses a pencil instead of a paper clip for it's CD tray... there are times where you have to get a jammed CD out while the system's powered down. (Apple eventually had to replace that one drive, it was still under warrantee...)

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    3. Re:Mac's notoriously difficult... yay book by CountBrass · · Score: 1

      Insightful?? What are the mods smoking today? The parent poster clearly hasn't ever even used a Mac (they don't have emergency ejects using a paper-cli: that's PC hardware you're thinking of).

      Parent should have been modded troll.

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  14. Not Bad... by razmaspaz · · Score: 1

    20 or more Macs does cost money...$10K a year

    that sounds pretty cheap. ~500/seat Does anyone know the numbers for support for 20 windows machines. To actually support them?

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    1. Re:Not Bad... by FreeLinux · · Score: 1

      Most of the analysts agree that enterprise PC maintenance runs at around $5000 per seat per annum. This includes software licensing, backend servers and software, and helpdesk support and general break/fix work.

  15. Re:Well, by macrealist · · Score: 1

    ..easily balloon your IT support budget to over $10K a year.

    No, +1 Backhanded compliant.

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  16. Re:Well, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They shouldn't be pissed. 10k/year to keep 20 computers running is really quite a good deal and reflects well on Apple. 20 windows machines is about the threshold for needing an actual IT department, at which you're in for waaaay more that $10k.

  17. Mac Suspend by mackermacker · · Score: 1

    Thats nice. I have noticed that. I have never been able to get suspend working with linux. Gone through Dell Inspiron 8000 series, running Suse, Mandrake, redhat, debian, and have never been able to make it work properly. I still love linux, just some of those little things get on your nerves, especially at conferences and such when your in a hurry and doing many things at once. If anyone has ever made it work properly, I would love to hear how.

  18. Homepage for the PDF eBook by Grandmaster+Mort · · Score: 2, Informative

    http://fixa.troubledmac.com/

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  19. interesting book by sinner0423 · · Score: 1

    This actually does interest me, I've worked on PC's for a long time, but I have never worked on a Mac before. It's obviously somewhat different to the point that people are writing on the subject matter. Can any Mac users in here share some differences as to how maintenance with these differs from that of a regular windows (or linix) based PC?

  20. Re:This book is clearly written by The+Other+White+Boy · · Score: 1

    clearly written + linux == hilarity, and everything else claming to be a joke before this post wasn't, i love it.

    posting from linux, everyone calm down.

  21. And to add to that by hellfire · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The parent comment is one problem I have here with this review. It hypes the book as good but the book itself is obsoleted by more effective and up to date searching of the web. Books are too slow to troubleshoot problems these days.

    The other problem I have is the comment that "Macs aren't as trouble free as one is led to believe." While no computer is perfect, Mac software and hardware have a far better reliability track record than Wintel PCs do. This is at least in my experience, but there are a lot of research reports and experts out there who agree with me.

    This smacks of marketing hype. "oooooohhhh buy this book because you are going to have problems.... *scary clanking noises*" That coupled by the fact that instead of buying a reference manual you can get all this information for free online makes me think its just another attempt to make money on something not needed.

    I mean cmon... will this book have information on the help viewer/safari security problem? It hit the presses and already it is out of date.

    This is nothing new though, the same thing is true for windows and linux troubleshooting guides too.

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    1. Re:And to add to that by drinkypoo · · Score: 1
      In my experience, windows PCs need more preventative maintenance than macintoshes, and are more frequent targets of viruses and trojans. On the other hand, back in the day when MacOS actually had viruses on a regular basis, they tended to be the kind that would wipe your ass out, and they seemed to travel faster through the mac community. Without gatekeeper and disinfectant, I would never have been able to use my damn mac.

      Anyway back to my point, my experience is that windows will be relatively troublefree if you keep it updated and don't install jackoff software from some website you've never heard of. If you don't, you get owned. Regardless of the reason macs don't have this problem, whether technical or just a lack of interest, it's still an interesting idea.

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    2. Re:And to add to that by tverbeek · · Score: 3, Informative
      It hit the presses and already it is out of date.

      Um, it's distributed online in PDF. A subscription for updates is available. You can download a partial copy of the book free of charge, to evaluate it yourself.

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    3. Re:And to add to that by Brain+Stew · · Score: 1

      Obviously no computer can be perfect, since computers were built by man. Man is imperfect, therefore his creations are as such. Books like this help to point that out to people who believe that simply not using Windows will mean that nothing will ever fail.

      And based on the title and summary, I wouldn't think this to be an obsolete book. It's obviously aimed at solving lower-end errors rather than massively large ones. And I think that a basic level of computer maintenance is never a bad thing!

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    4. Re:And to add to that by dirtymouse · · Score: 1

      >I mean cmon... will this book have information on the help viewer/safari security problem? It hit the presses and already it is out of date.
      +

      yes it does.

      P191

      dirtymouse (yes, the author!)

      and no, the book is not entirely out of date. Yes 10.3.4 came out yesterday. I'm writing new stuff as we speak.

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  22. Wow really? by Prince+Vegeta+SSJ4 · · Score: 1

    I am going by memory of course, haven't seen the thing in about 15 years, I coulda sworn it was a 040 - but you are right. Maybe it was something I wanted at the time.

    1. Re:Wow really? by taniwha · · Score: 1

      well there were no '040s (or even '030s) when the Mac 2 came out. Not even an MMU, though there was a socket for one (for those of use with A/UX) that was normally filled with a dummy pal

    2. Re:Wow really? by Cybertect · · Score: 1

      I have a Mac IIfx sitting in my back room, purchased for the princely sum of 40 at the end of the nineties because I always wanted one and couldn't afford it when they were new... it certainly has an 68030 chip :)

      There was, however, an after-market Daystar '040 upgrade card for the Mac II series:

      http://www.lowendmac.com/daystar/pages/dsd_produ ct s/upgrades/030.040/t040spec.html

  23. Re:fix a troubled mac? by crackshoe · · Score: 1

    But i can't run my favorite games under linux... wait... this is my mac we're talking about? (disclaimer: half my favorite games run on my mac, the other half on my PC. I am, to the degree its possible, a Mac gamer)

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    Don't worry - its just stigmata. Pass me a napkin and don't you dare tell my mother.
  24. Five Stages of Dealing with a Broken Mac by Rick.C · · Score: 5, Funny

    1. Denial
    2. Denial
    3. Denial
    4. Denial
    5. Buy another Mac

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    You were 80% angel, 10% demon. The rest was hard to explain. - Over The Rhine
    "Math in a song is good."-Linford
  25. I beg to differ by Prince+Vegeta+SSJ4 · · Score: 1

    Sorry sir, better get out your books:

    Your search - Error 1278754874928375: No useful error message. - did not match any documents. No pages were found containing "1278754874928375".

    The search I came up with listed THIS as it's first result

  26. Fitting Douglas Adams quote by bobobobo · · Score: 3, Interesting
    The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair.

    That about sums up fixing Macs for me. At least with windows and linux you're already in constant state of things going wrong.

  27. But what can you do by WormholeFiend · · Score: 1

    But what can you do when your coworker arrives in your cubicle, obviously alarmed, complaining that her floppy drive wont accept her diskette, which has all moving parts stuck (probably from a sugar-laden drink spill), and wont take "your diskette died" for an answer?

  28. support costs by plopez · · Score: 2, Interesting

    From the introduction about a lab of 20 machines:

    >this can easily balloon your IT support budget
    >to over $10K a year.

    In the late 90's Gartner published a study pegging the support costs of a Windows corporate network at $5k to $10k per year *per seat*.

    Even with a simple Windows based network the cost easily could be $30k to $40k per year just for a sysape to keep things running and deal with viruses etc. Macs *are* less expensive to run.

    --
    putting the 'B' in LGBTQ+
    1. Re:support costs by JamieF · · Score: 1

      Some guy says that he thinks Macs may cost over $10K/yr to support 20 in no specific situation. You take that to be as well researched as a Gartner study.

      Wow, that proof is just overwhelming. I can already imagine the hordes of MCSEs trading in their polo shirts and khakis for black mock turtlenecks and jeans.

  29. dumbasses by EaterOfDog · · Score: 1, Interesting

    This book basically covers what I do at my job. You easily can get this info via Google if you know the search terms. The issue here is people don't want to have to think about it, they would rather just have someone take care of it. Come on, I get support calls regarding aliases missing from the desktop. The real market for this book is tiny, although a number of people will buy it to collect dust.

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    Crushing my karma one post at a time.
  30. As I sit here fixing a Mac... by raddan · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ... I come across this article.

    Honestly, after supporting a group of about 20 graphics folks with Macs for the past six months (along with about 90 Wintel boxen), I'm just sick of seeing the same thing over and over again: 99% of all Mac problems have to do with FONTS. Corrupt fonts, missing fonts, bad font activation, etc. (That last 1% is reserved for Quark's profound suckedness.)

    I can't tell you how many fcsking times I've told these people not to remove their system fonts. Invariably, someone will come to me complaing that Outlook doesn't work, and I end up solving the problem by reinstalling their system fonts. And repeating the lecture, again.

    1. Re:As I sit here fixing a Mac... by EaterOfDog · · Score: 2, Funny

      Dude, start wearing death-metal shirts and get a skull tattooed on your neck. Then use a large hunting knife as a pointer when telling them what the problem was. No more font problems!

      --

      Crushing my karma one post at a time.
    2. Re:As I sit here fixing a Mac... by Maserati · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Put the required fonts in /System/Library/Fonts and make sure they only have read access to that directory. If you aren't on OS X yet, turn on filesharing (use appropriate permissions [1] )or use ARD to push the fonts so you can fix 'em remotely.

      I do have to assume the OP is a newbie, Quark suckiness should be taking up way more than 1% :-) I kid, I kid, buggy versions of Font Reserve are a hefty chunk of my support calls as well - as are studio managers who insist on 800MB font libraries with duplicate font names in 'em. FR isn't *supposed* to be stable with that going on, it'd be nice as it was but you can't design an idiot-proof general-purpose program to handle every explicitly stupid situation.

      [1] Determining appropriate permissions is left as an exercise for the reader. Hint: nobody by the admin account should be able to get at the System Folder !

      --
      Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1992-1951
  31. SSH/SFTP by Rei · · Score: 1

    Oooh, oooh, someone who knows more about Macs than a rock. :) Could you perchance recommend an SSH/SFTP client for an iMac?

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    It's time for Operation Crazy Plan.
    1. Re:SSH/SFTP by NatasRevol · · Score: 3, Informative

      Terminal.app

      Or if you don't know what you're doing, Transmit.

      --
      There are two types of people in the world: Those who crave closure
    2. Re:SSH/SFTP by Rei · · Score: 1

      I thought terminal was OS-X only.

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      It's time for Operation Crazy Plan.
    3. Re:SSH/SFTP by rampant+mac · · Score: 3, Informative

      Like Fugu?

      --
      I like big butts and I cannot lie.
    4. Re:SSH/SFTP by tverbeek · · Score: 3, Funny
      Could you perchance recommend an SSH/SFTP client for an iMac?

      Have you tried "ssh" and "sftp"? :)

      --
      http://alternatives.rzero.com/
    5. Re:SSH/SFTP by Rei · · Score: 1

      Isn't Fugu OS-X only?

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      It's time for Operation Crazy Plan.
    6. Re:SSH/SFTP by OptimizedPrime · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Imacs can run OSX. Are you looking for an OS9 solution? If so, please put that in your post. Otherwise, people tend to assume you run OSX these days, especially on Slashdot.

    7. Re:SSH/SFTP by jpkunst · · Score: 1

      ssh/sftp clients for Classic Mac OS:

      MacSSH and MacSFTP.

      JP

    8. Re:SSH/SFTP by SoTuA · · Score: 2, Funny
      Isn't Fugu OS-X only?

      No, last I heard it was saltwater only. And a bitch to properly clean, too...

      (so *that's* what karma smells like when it burns!)

    9. Re:SSH/SFTP by Rei · · Score: 1

      Thank you *very much*. :)

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      It's time for Operation Crazy Plan.
    10. Re:SSH/SFTP by shmokey · · Score: 1

      MacSSH, check for it @ macorchard.com.

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    11. Re:SSH/SFTP by .com+b4+.storm · · Score: 1

      Could you perchance recommend an SSH/SFTP client for an iMac?

      The command-line 'ssh' should do you just fine for remote logins and tunnels and such. But for SFTP, I'd highly recommend Transmit. It's an awesome FTP and SFTP client - probably the best solution you'll find short of Apple getting the Finder fixed up for real FTP access.

      If you don't like shareware (Transmit is $24.95) my runner-up recommendation would be Cyberduck. It has a rather nice UI, development is rather rapid (bug fixes and feature refinements every month or so), and it is open source under the GPL. It's not as speedy as Transmit, and it has a ridiculously ugly rubber duck icon, but it's still a nice FTP and SFTP client. :-)

      Hope that helps!

      --
      "Wow, you're like some kind of superhero able to ward off happiness and success at every turn."
      -- Ryan Stiles
    12. Re:SSH/SFTP by Halfbaked+Plan · · Score: 1

      None of my Macs are new enough to run OSX. And it's really getting to the point where nobody even makes available software for OS9.

      They're fine machines, though. I run NetBSD on one of my SE/30's. Do you think the 'wizard' who wrote this book can help me get X11 installed on it better? I want a large virtual screen, and a few other tweaks I haven't figured out on it yet. The Tab Window Manager rulez!

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      resigned
    13. Re:SSH/SFTP by JamieF · · Score: 1

      Stupid author, not covering important topics like X11 configuration on SE/30's. That market keeps getting overlooked, I don't understand...

      I'm not sure why something like a virtual desktop is a Mac specific topic, though.

    14. Re:SSH/SFTP by zaxus · · Score: 1

      You want Transmit. MacOS 9 SSH proggie.

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      /. zen: Imagine a Beowulf cluster of Beowulf clusters...
    15. Re:SSH/SFTP by vingt · · Score: 1

      Try databeast's DataComet Secure - databeast .

  32. It's a freakin' DREAM COME TRUE! by MarcQuadra · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Sure. There's a LOT less hardware calls, but when there's one, there are bound to be many of the same type.

    I have about 200 Macs under my responsibility, and since November I've not had to fix ONE hardware issue with a desktop (excepting two dead keyboards). I've sent a few iBooks in, but those have been abused for almost three years by fourth-graders.

    When I notice one iBook drive go, though, I know there are six more waiting to die, so I tested them all and sent the dying ones back.

    The PC-support guy has about twice as many computers to handle, but he easily does five times as many hardware repairs as I do.

    As for software, if you really know *NIX, you can keep users pretty happy while limiting their destructive whims to their own home folders, which is a joy.

    We don't have popups, adware, spyware, worms, or viruses on our side of the fence, so there's a LOT fewer support calls. You do, however, have to keep users up-to-date withtheir software, and that means registering each machine in ARD so you can push packages. I spend a decent part of my day in front of ARD getting reports on OS versions to track down any update-stragglers.

    Active-Directory integration lets me give some users temporary admin rights to their machines if I trust them, which is way cool. You can run roaming profiles via SMB and AD as well if you like, so non-admin users can't write a damn thing to local drives.

    Imaging is painless, as there's netboot; and you NEVER have to make separate images for different breeds of hardware, the image for the G5 works fine on the bondi-blue iMac.

    ARD lets me remote into people's machines and SHOW them how to do attachments in email, etc. Saves me the walk across campus.

    There is a big learning curve though, not to USE a Mac, but to admin them. You've got to learn the whole 'vibe' and get a feel for the types of problems these strange machines can exhibit. And don't forget to memorize your startup keystrokes, command-option-p-r can save you quite a bit of time.

    --
    "Sometimes, I think Trent just needs a cup of hot chocolate and a blankie." -Tori Amos on Nine Inch Nails
  33. Re:We know better than that. by DaveCBio · · Score: 1

    Yes, and we all know your situation represents everyone that owns a Mac. Guess what, my mother never has trouble with her PC because all she ever does is email and play Solitaire. A friend of mine works in systems at a university and he laughs when people say Macs are problem free. He says they have as many problem with the Mac labs asn the PC labs, they are just different problems most of the time.

  34. You mean they *don't* JUST WORK? by User+956 · · Score: 2, Funny

    .. but.. but.. el Presidente Jobs promised me my Mac would "just work"!

    You mean to tell me they break, just like every other computer? This is an outrage!@@#@!11 I demand my eight thousand dollars back!

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    The theory of relativity doesn't work right in Arkansas.
    1. Re:You mean they *don't* JUST WORK? by Squareball · · Score: 1

      I haven't had a lot of probelms with my new ibook but last night it came up with a screen that said "You must reboot now. Press the reset button or hold down the powerbutton". It's basically the OS X BSOD I guess. ugh.

  35. Re:We know better than that. by bw5353 · · Score: 1
    " I have my iBook running for more than 2,5 years without any problem. "

    You don't think that one user is slightly limited as a statistical sample?

  36. Mac Help Books by buckhead_buddy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Being an eBook I wasn't aware of this book's existence at all. I have to say that I'm both intrigued and put off by this. A physical book has a long production time and is read and commented on by experts and non-users heavily. Is there any editing to this electronic version? From the review it sounds like it could be a bit disorganized or even contradictory if there was only limited editing/review by others.

    The reviewer mentions "The Tao of Macintosh" as an appropos subtitle, but this was already used by a book in the System 6 / System 7 days. I had that book at one time and found it to be all philosophy and very, very little usable advice. A good subway read, but definitely not a "useful" or "must have" book. I'm a bit concerned by the extensive philosophy the author says is focused on in early chapters. Is it readable? Is it obvious? Does it draw too many metaphors to other things and leave you to apply the lesson to your job?

    I'm also a little disturbed that the advice that was taken from the internet sources hasn't been digested and distilled by the author and instead simply reprinted directly. One advantage of many books versus scanning the internet is getting the voice and perspective of one author. Besides just tone and readability, as you read a book author you set your own perspective of what this person thinks is "too risky" or what procedures are a "useless waste of time". You don't get that perspective on the internet and it would be nice for the author to have tried to digest the information and filter it through his own experience and mindset.

    As far as some of the technial issues, I'm a bit concerned it tries to cover everything and by being too broad, lets things escape in the cracks. I used to know a cornucopia of Mac OS 9 troubleshooting tips and tricks ("Hold the command and option keys down while opening the latest memory control panel and you'll see an advanced config screen"). Now I don't even bother. Apple isn't going to update Mac OS 9 so it's just easier to refresh the disk from an image than try to troubleshoot quirky problems. Additionally, the mindset for dealing with OS 9 problems is much different from OS X ones. I quickly find I wind up with privilege problems or corrupt resource forks if I mistakenly apply tricks from one OS to the other.

    The cross-referencing in an ebook sounds great. I'd love to have this in real books. But good cross-references take time to build. You say that many chapters refer to the "building a firewire rescue drive". But if I have iBooks that have no Firewire ports, then I'll find these cross-references more of a bother than a help.

    I hope my comments don't sound overly harsh. It does sound like there's some good information in this tome. I'm glad that this review brought it to my attention, but I'm still a bit wary of whether it'll be applicable for my needs.

    1. Re:Mac Help Books by netsrek · · Score: 1

      You really should download the sample chapters from the site.

      Disclaimer before I go any further: I have read most of this eBook. I do know the author, he isn't one of my inner circle of friends in real life, but we get along, and we have some common close friends. My posting history should show that I'm reasonably knowledgeable about the Mac.

      That being said, I'm going to address your issues you have raised.

      This book has very little blatant philosophy, and almost entirely consists of practical advice. The few philosophical statements are 100% focused upon troubleshooting.

      Yes, a lot of the content can be found from a hugely disparate set of sources on the internet. You were expecting "The Sekrit Tome of Macintosh" ? By no means has this simply been reprinted however. It's arranged in a very logical manner, and the cross indexing really is good. This isn't just a paper book in eBook form, a serious attempt has been made to take advantage of the format. This is a good thing. My Mac support unit never buys printed Mac books anymore. They just date too fast.

      It's not broad. It is wide-ranging but specific. There is a difference.

      You know how small creative departments often have to support Macs themselves? This book is perfectly aimed at that segment, but is not entirely restricted to it.

      If you're a Mac guru who spends their life browsing Mac Ach, Apple discussions, MacOSXHints, MacFixIt, etc etc etc, then you probably know most of what is in this book. However, you might find it simpler to tell people to buy this rather than ring you up at all hours.... :)

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      i don't read slashdot anymore.
    2. Re:Mac Help Books by Fancia · · Score: 2, Funny
      Being an eBook I wasn't aware of this book's existence at all.
      I should imagine. I'm impressed that you're able to type at all, being that you're an electronic collection of letters with a total lack of limbs. ;3
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      Bít, zabít, jen proto, ze su liska!
    3. Re:Mac Help Books by dirtymouse · · Score: 1

      >I'm also a little disturbed that the advice that was taken from the internet sources hasn't been digested and distilled by the author and instead simply reprinted directly.

      +

      Don't be disturbed. I've been troubleshooting Macs for years and have bought many books in that time, and have fixed thousands of Macs. The last thing i want to do is produce some piece of crap for people to buy.

      > You don't get that perspective on the internet and it would be nice for the author to have tried to digest the information and filter it through his own experience and mindset.

      +

      this is exactly what i've done. the end result is the book.
      If this book is not filtered down from years of Mac experience
      and from a troubleshooting mindset, then seriously i dont know what is.

      Rather than write realms of personal reasoning etc etc. Lets just get straight to the point. Fix the Mac in question... People who are troubleshootng do not have time to weed thru pages of blurb to find something they read 3 months before.

      and with a PDF, just search NVRAM, or PRAM, or open firmware, or prebind or defragment or udp or 53 or dns or delegation...

      > As far as some of the technial issues, I'm a bit concerned it tries to cover everything and by being too broad, lets things escape in the cracks.

      +

      this is a problem for any writer. Or producer of any content.
      Yes, i'm torn between tech and non tech, troubleshooting, or advice. It's difficult to strike a balance that is right for everyone.

      hopefully 'fix a troubled mac' does strike that balance between a little advice in the right direction, or some comprehensive step by step procedures (like DNS, firewire drive or resolving startup problems).

      > I used to know a cornucopia of Mac OS 9 troubleshooting tips and tricks ("Hold the command and option keys down while opening the latest memory control panel and you'll see an advanced config screen"). Now I don't even bother. Apple isn't going to update Mac OS 9 so it's just easier to refresh the disk from an image than try to troubleshoot quirky problems.

      +

      indeed. but there are still millions of Mac OS 9 users out there
      who do want to know some tricks. On top of this, the book addresses just that technique on how to create a default Mac OS 9 image. (or Mac OS X) That in itself is beyond the scope of some users, until they realise that it indeed can be done.

      > But if I have iBooks that have no Firewire ports, then I'll find these cross-references more of a bother than a help.

      +

      I suppose i could make a version without referencing firewire drives for ibooks without firewire ports ;-) or you could ignore those references. They are clearly worded so you can easily avoid them.

      > I hope my comments don't sound overly harsh. It does sound like there's some good information in this tome. I'm glad that this review brought it to my attention, but I'm still a bit wary of whether it'll be applicable for my needs.

      +

      I don't find your comments harsh. Your reservations about ebooks and authorship are entirely valid.

      buy it and find out. Or if that's is too pushy of me. I'll give you a copy. email me.

      i'm glad slashdot brought my book to your attention.

      dirtymouse
      (author of 'Fix a troubled Mac')

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      + dirtymouse
  37. Re:We know better than that. by freeze128 · · Score: 1

    You are totally right! It sounds like this book's main purpose is for repairing the problems that are CAUSED by dumb users.

    There are stupid and dangerous users of Macs and PCs. Some people don't understand the user interface, no matter how simple or intuitive it is. On a Mac, to delete a file, drag it to the trash. On a Windows PC, you can do the same thing! When you show the users how to do it, they still say "I didn't know you could do that!"

    I would consider this book a useful reference if I needed a way to "user-proof" some MACs, but a good technician would probably develop equivalent skills on his own, just from the experience of what CAN go wrong.

  38. Basic Mac Troubleshooting Steps by tbmaddux · · Score: 4, Informative
    In increasing order of desperation:
    1. Repair permissions.
    2. Delete the contents of ~/Library/Caches/, /Library/Caches/, and /System/Library/Caches/. You can do this on the command line in single-user mode (reboot and hold down cmd-S) or using a utility like Panther Cache Cleaner.
    3. Reset PRAM. Reboot, hold down cmd-opt-P-R, and wait for the startup chime to ring 3 times.
    4. Reset NVRAM. Reboot, hold down cmd-opt-O-F. When you get to the Open Firmware prompt, type "reset-nvram (return) set-defaults (return) reset-all (return)" Your machine will reboot.
    Usually a cache cleaning is enough for me. Permissions repair rarely does anything for me since installing Panther, but it's so easy that I put it first. I rarely have to move on to more advanced steps like throwing out selected preferences/plists, disk utilities (like DiskWarrior), reinstalling apps, combo updaters or an "archive and install" of the operating system, but those would be the next steps.
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  39. This is how much we pay for 43 Mac in 3 labs by olePigeon+(Wik) · · Score: 5, Informative

    We have three labs with a total of about 43 Macs. A mix of eMacs, iMacs, G3 towers, G4 Towers, a dual XServe, and one dual G5.

    So far, in the past two years, we've replaced only 1 eMac because it was having trouble booting, and it was under warranty. The only major failures are the dumbass B&W monitors that came with the G3s. Of the 12 we had, only 3 are left. They've been replaced by Hitachi monitors which are working perfectly. Lucikly we're getting brand new eMacs to replace all the B&W G3s (not because they're broken, but because they're too slow for OS X Panther + Adobe CS.)

    We have 4 techs, each paid (gladly, I might add) $9.00 an hour for 20 hours a week. All the techs are Apple gurus and love working for us and especially with the equipment (XServe is just so cool.) It's amazing having people who are so enthusiastic about the software, hardware, and the company that makes them. The techs are excited to come to work and troubleshoot when needed.

    Everything runs smoothly. Regular backups on the XServe, use NetBoot and Bombich's NetInstall for setting up the labs (takes about an hour to set up the master disk image, then only 30 minutes to deploy on 40+ Macs), and we're moving to an OpenDirectory structure by next year.

    1. Re:This is how much we pay for 43 Mac in 3 labs by DaveCBio · · Score: 1

      $9.00 per hour for support techs? That's pretty low for someone with good tech skills. Or are they just savvy Mac users?

    2. Re:This is how much we pay for 43 Mac in 3 labs by sorbits · · Score: 1

      Sounds to me like it would be a nice job for a student (who is perhaps underaged), given that not much work really needs to be done, and thus they could use any free time for student-related stuff.

  40. Re:honest about Mac troubles by willCode4Beer.com · · Score: 2, Informative

    amen Ibet Mac OS8 is the only system that crashes more than windows. Now that is an honor to hold

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  41. I stand corrected by JessLeah · · Score: 1

    It had a 68020. My bad. It most certainly did not, though, have a 68040, which was a comparatively modern innovation.

  42. No, He Meant... by simpl3x · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That they rarely have any problems... The single Mac that died was 6100 I had disassembled after installing MKLinux on it after it was basically worthless. I run an office and have been in charge of a dozen machines, routers, switches, and a couple of windows machines. I've configured Cisco switches and routers, set up their firewalls, rebuilt an entire office of Macs in a weekend with all of the software installed, and the only thing that has ever given me trouble, is connecting to the damn Windows machines, or having a shitty Dell hard disk fail a couple of times before they sent me a good one.

    If this book included simple directions for getting everything to communicate, it would be worth its weight... But, there is always Google!

  43. don't forget the other DA Mac quotes... by imag0 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    From the man himself...

    I wrote an ad for Apple Computer: "Macintosh - We might not get everything right, but at least we knew the century was going to end."

    The Macintosh may only have 10% of the market, but it is clearly the top 10%.

    hehe. Enjoy.

  44. Fixing Mac font problems made easy by phillymjs · · Score: 3, Interesting

    First, find all files that end in .dfont on the Mac and get rid of them. I usually move them to /Shared/unused_fonts or something like that.

    Some of those dfonts are crucial, like Helvetica. Google for a minute and you'll find a list of them somewhere, I'm feeling lazy right now. Put ordinary Postscript versions of the crucial fonts where the dfonts were. Some of these actions require the use of sudo in the Terminal.

    After that, things will be much improved. You should also get a decent font management app. I usually recommend Suitcase. I had a couple clients try Font Reserve, and it gave them way too many problems. Plus Extensis now owns both Suitcase and Font Reserve, and based on the frequency of updates it's pretty clear that Font Reserve is getting short shrift and is probably living on borrowed time.

    Anyway, once you get your font management app installed, be sure to configure it to manage your system fonts for you.

    Once you do the above, you should have far fewer problems (but Quark still sucks, especially when it's version 4.x running in Classic).

    ~Philly

  45. Have you EVER by way2trivial · · Score: 1

    been working on a computer for someone, where it's the SOLE MACHINE available
    and you can't get the free online info, because the machine won't go online?

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    1. Re:Have you EVER by Socket+Scientist · · Score: 1

      Yep, way more times than I care to recall in fact :-) In many of those cases though, a .pdf would have been equally useless. If I were to buy Fix a Troubled Mac the first thing I'd do is print a copy.

  46. Compatibilty... by beerits · · Score: 1

    Have you tried using Patchburn to get that DVD-R working?

  47. Don't go for the book.....Go for the Mac.. by DelawareBoy · · Score: 1

    Use this:

    1) The original price (if memory serves me right) was $666 . Priced that way on purpose.

    2) Jobs went to India in search of a new-age spiritual Guru..

    3) The ChurchOfSatan.com (or something like that) specifically chose Apple as their official computer.

    That should start the banning.. :)

    1. Re:Don't go for the book.....Go for the Mac.. by revividus · · Score: 1
      Jobs went to India ...

      Wait, when did we start talking about outsourcing?

  48. Re:$10,000 year - Seriously, that is 20 new PCs! by amsr · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You can't get 20 PCs for 10k that are worth any further than you can throw them. Seriously, you can build PCs and buy crapbox PCs for cheap, but don't expect any vendor support and don't expect them to run for more than 5 minutes without you fixing them. I know Macs are not cheap, but if you price them out feature for feature with any other tier one vendor they are at least in the realm of being competitive.

  49. Re:We know better than that. by rhuntley12 · · Score: 1

    My work has 17Windows 2k boxes, 1 Unix, 2 NT, 2 VMS and we have almost no problems with anything here. Our network guy transfer to another site about a year ago and he was never replaced. 13 of the Windows boxes are fairly old(300-600mhz) 4 are almost a month old, the Unix and VMS machines are very ancient, and the 2 NT's are alpha's. The only problems I can think of in the last year, are one virus that was easily removed, a few tape failures and a power supply.

    My boss returned her Mac earlier in the year because of problems she had with it(Laptop, display problems along with other things) I guess this one case means Mac sucks?

    For any case anyone brings trying to prove one side is more reliable there will be another dozen to show the other and so on.

  50. You forgot one by sootman · · Score: 1

    0. Toss preferences.

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    1. Re:You forgot one by tbmaddux · · Score: 1
      Actually I didn't forget:
      I rarely have to move on to more advanced steps like throwing out selected preferences/plists...
      I don't like throwing out preferences because of the negative side effect of losing the saved information. I put it off unless the basic steps don't solve the problem. Since they usually do, I don't have to go through the pain of dealing with lost preferences/plists.
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    2. Re:You forgot one by sootman · · Score: 1

      Sorry, I missed that--once I saw "I rarely have to move on to more advanced steps..." I must have glazed over it, since throwing out the preferences is, in my mind, less "advanced" than zapping the PRAM and other stuff you mentioned--quit app, toss file, empty trash, and restart the app--no rebooting or 4-way key combos needed. Since I only lightly customize apps, lost prefs don't bother me at all.

      I agree with you about losing settings; however, if it's an app you have set up carefully, you can always stuff the prefs file and then toss the original. If that doesn't fix the problem, toss the new prefs and restore the stuffed file. But now we're getting "advanced". :-)

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  51. Re: How to Fix a Troubled Mac by platypussrex · · Score: 1

    Got to wonder about the technical savvy of the reviewer (unless s/he was just quoting from the book or something, in which case I wonder about the author instead.)

    For example, creating a firewire emergency disk isn't "arduous" at all. I managed to figure out how in about 5 seconds. (In case you can't figure it out, take your Install CD/DVD that came with the machine, install the system on a firewire partition, and then make sure it's current with updates.)

    Or saying that the terminal is for "brave" users. Give me a break. "Experienced" or "Savvy" or something like that, but "Brave"?

    One more example... the review says that the book does a good job of explaning how to rexognize when you should use Retrospect, or when you should use Disk Warrior. (After complaining that the book is for advanced users.) Sorry, but most advanced users pretty much know what Retrospect is used for.

    Actually, upon reading the review again, it sounds as if half of it was copied from a press release for the book or somethng. I don't think I'll be buying this one anytime soon.

  52. "If you run a busy creative design business" by caitsith01 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "If you run a busy creative design business, you've encountered your fair share of Mac problems"

    Assertion: It is only possible to run a 'creative design business' with a shed load of Macs.

    With all due respect, this is clearly bs, and it is the kind of attitude that really, really pisses off non-Apple users. It is perfectly possible to run a web design/publishing/graphic design/3D rendering/printing business using Windows machines, without any extra effort. There is hardware and software available for the Windows environment that is at least as good, and arguably better, than the current crop of Apple products.

    Dreamweaver, Photoshop, InDesign, etc. etc. all sell well on PC, and indeed there are rumours that Adobe is strategically scaling back its investment in Apple due to low demand and poor return-on-investment in developing products for the OS9/X platforms. In other words: they make more money out of Windows sales of their software, including Photoshop, than they do from the Mac sales.

    I'm not trying to take part in the holy wars here, it's just that the opening line was such a typical Apple fanboy cliche that I feel compelled to respond. Please, get over yourselves. You choose Apple. Others choose other tools. Not all graphic designers use Macs, and Apple products are not a prerequisite for running a successful design business.

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    1. Re:"If you run a busy creative design business" by Darkman,+Walkin+Dude · · Score: 1

      Yup just to second this one, I do run a busy creative design business, and we don't use one single mac. Not a one. We have 22 windows boxes and a couple of linux-based fileservers running, as well as a web hosting machine.

      Cost wise, maintenance wise, performance wise, you simply get better value from your off the shelf machines if you treat them right. If I want to pay fifty grand for an aesthetically pleasing appearance, I'll get plastic surgery.

  53. Re: How to Fix a Troubled Mac by Zareste · · Score: 1

    Yeah. I know how a lot of network administrators completely lack the qualifications and computer familiarity to keep things going, and in turn need to find a way to blame all the hardware and routing devices for all the problems, but gee wiz, to go so far as to write a book to convince everyone that it's not your fault? That's going way too far. And Jesus, if you can't run a network using Macs without jerry-rigging it, you oughtta be fired right then and there.

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  54. Re:We know better than that. by the+shoez · · Score: 1

    What about this for an example. My 12" Powerbook, not more than 5 months old has dust behind the screen, has a broken DVD burner and crashes all the time. And when I say crash, I don't mean a kernel panic, I mean the system freezes.. halts if you will. Sometimes the mouse can be moved, othertimes it completely stops. Much of thye problems seem to come from iTunes, an Apple product no less. I'd say my Windows machine was far more stable. Take that how you will. shoez

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  55. its okay. by hovercraft · · Score: 1

    Its got some nice command line hints for OS X... but I dunno... its pretty light in othe areas. I thought it was kind of a cop out to claim "Make a Universal Boot Disk" ... and then explain that an OS X universal boot CD is still not a reality. (which is not really accurate either: DiskWarrior does a pretty good job as he explains in other places) I haven't tried his plan for making a "Universal OS 9 Disk", but most Macs require their own factory disks to start up from. We'll see.

    I think the book has some good stuff for new to mid-level Mac Techs, but I think the title of the book should be "A Few Very Good Support Tips, a Bunch of Programs You Can Buy and Some Hyperlinks To Apple's Support Site".

  56. Re:honest about Mac troubles by 0utRun · · Score: 1

    > They also all figured out that KEYBOARD SHORCUTS help...

    Here's one that'll help you help me: Alt-F4 :-)

  57. Re:$10,000 year - Seriously, that is 20 new PCs! by amsr · · Score: 1

    I'll admit they can be more expensive in some cases. But 50%, give me a break man. Try to find a 1" thin widescreen notebook from Dell with built in 802.11g, Firewire 800, USB 2, DVD Burner, GigE etc... if they even make one, it will be price competitive with a powerbook.

    You see, the thing is. For office PCs, dell makes very cheap proccessor+HDD boxes. They have built in graphics, slower busses, smaller HDDs and barely any modern connectivity. Sure you can add those things, but the price is no longer 599$. Apple just doesn't make the low end like that. So sure, if you compare feature for feature with the lowest of the low PCs, you can always find a cheaper dell.