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LA to Oregon at Mach 9

Kallahar writes "Last April I hooked up a video camera to my front bumper and drove from Los Angeles to Oregon. The video is finally done; it's sped up 95x which makes the trip a mere 6 minutes long. To do the recording I hooked up a VCR inside the car and recorded in real time, then captured the entire thing to the hard drive and changed the framerate of the avi. The camera and VCR only cost about $50 total, which makes for a fairly affordable hobby/art project."

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  1. Big file by tpearson · · Score: 5, Funny

    Posting a link to a 65mb file on your own site is brave.

    1. Re:Big file by Yorrike · · Score: 5, Funny

      He should do a movie called: "Slashdot posting to server crash at mach 9".

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    2. Re:Big file by bdkives1 · · Score: 2, Funny
      14 comments, and the server is gone...

      Zero to Slashdotted in 9 min.

    3. Re:Big file by sniepre · · Score: 3, Interesting

      What entire episode would that be? I mean.. so you get /.ed.. that means that you have < (x) bandwidth and/or serving capacity in machine power needed to serve your contents to (y) the demographic among slashdotters who care about the topic material.

      Assuming the site was hosted in a colocation facility and the user even *had* 24/7 access to his cage or rack, more than likely all that would happen is the server begins chunking out, he tries to get into it to remove some content if he is paying attention, otherwise it just sucks till the demand drops (or if running older IIS, gets "set" by a "temporary stealth administrator" to display goatsepr0n.) If he cant get in, he triggers a remote power supply to reset the machine, it comes back up, he gets in... Crisis averted.

      Unfortunately that rarely happens though on here it seems.. In my experiences, a good site slashdotting to the point of no return i'd say for links that I click maybe one in fifteen slowed down sites have content adjusted on the fly to compensate, most site admins don't appear to be paying the attention to notice that they're crawling to a halt. It is in itself an interesting phenomenon, a frequent reminder on how spontanteous and enormous the internet is.

      But back to the point, no, I don't think that video would be any fun. If anything at all, itd be some kid in his 20s with a toolbox and a laptop sitting on a hard raised-tile floor for 20 minutes behind a wall of rackmounted crap. :)

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    4. Re:Big file by xmas2003 · · Score: 4, Funny
      When my Christmas Lights got Slashdotted in 2002, a 40-amp circuit breaker actually popped at the ISP ... which makes a great story, but realistically it was almost certainly co-incidental. More "fun" was watching my neighbor's reaction in 2003 when the Christmas Lights starting going on and off at the throttled maximum rate of once/5 seconds.

      You can read more at my Slashdot Effect on Christmas Lights page.

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  2. You realize by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    That I can prove you were speeding using this, right?

  3. New Orleans to Seattle... by dnahelix · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I put a digital camera on my dash that took a picture every minute and have a movie of my drive from New Orleans to Seattle. It's awesome, but you only get about 1 frame per mile.

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    1. Re:New Orleans to Seattle... by tx_mgm · · Score: 4, Funny

      :snip:...took a picture every minute...:snip:....1 frame per mile

      I hope you stayed out of the fast lane doing this, grandpa!
      kidding...kidding...

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  4. 65MB videos? by jb.hl.com · · Score: 4, Informative

    Come on, that's like actively saying "I want my site to be fucked in the ass by the Slashdot Effect".

    Why no freakin' BitTorrent? That seems obvious, especially if you're the one who submits your site full of absurdly large videos to /.

    (FYI, I'm getting 22k/s, on a link that usually gets about 25. Not too bad, now watch that server burn in about 5 minutes...)

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    1. Re:65MB videos? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Er, not necessarily the case. Check your
      trace up to dreamhost.com. They've got pipe.
      Also, check out the session management they've
      set up in Apache. They'll survive /. just fine.
      It's the idiots who run videos off a small
      pipe or dumb default-apache setup that have probs.

    2. Re:65MB videos? by binaryspiral · · Score: 2, Insightful

      >Why does the Slashdot Effect not affect
      >Slashdot, of all places?

      Because smart people setup this website.

  5. More interesting route. by Seumas · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'd like to see someone do this with a more interesting route (yes, I'm a Portlander). This would be cool for, say, Route 66 - and possibly at 1/50th (or a selection of several speeds/frame rates).

    Anyway, it's a pretty cool video and actually something I'd thought about years ago. Glad to see someone else had the same idea. :)

    1. Re:More interesting route. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      no doubt. driving the 5 to Oregon is about the most boring trip I can think of, nothing but trucks and more trucks for the most part... I'd prefer taking the 101 at least part of the way up just to break the monotony. the scenerey is better, at least.

    2. Re:More interesting route. by Our+Man+In+Redmond · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Route 66 would be cool, but unfortunately large tracks of it (primarily between Arizona and Oklahoma, from what I remember) no longer exist.

      I remember a book that was funded by the WPA (I think -- I haven't seen the book in years) that documented the highways of Texas as they existed in the 1930s, including landmarks (drive 0.3 miles west and turn left at the red barn). Imagine if the technology had been in place to put frame-per-second camera on cars and document the highways of the time on film. In fact maybe we should do something like this now. Our cities and highways will probably look as quaint and antiquated to the people of 2074 as the highways of 1934 look to us.

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    3. Re:More interesting route. by tigersaw · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I don't know about anyone else, but I started to get a bit woozy once he got to Oregon, and 5 starts to actually have bends in the road. I think if anyone tried this on 95, it would darn near impossible to watch. I'd rather see 90, and attempt to pick out Wall Drug signs at Mach 9.

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    4. Re:More interesting route. by makohund · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yeah. I've done that trip (Salem to LA & back) and it'd dead boring.

      However, I've taken 101 all the way from LA to Lincoln City, then over to Salem. Much more interesting. The stretch of Oregon coast between Florence and Newport is particularly gorgeous.

      I'd have to say I'd take I-5 over driving through S Dakota any day. Gawd. Nothing. Some Wall Drug signs for mild amusement, but that's it.

      Now if I were to do something like this and had to pick a highway... without a doubt, the AlCan. The Alaska-Canada highway was one of the longest and most beatiful drives I've ever been on. Beat the hell out of Oregon to Georgia & back.

  6. makes the trip a mere 6 minutes long by skimitar · · Score: 5, Funny

    About as long as the life-expectancy of his server

  7. Torrent link by redhat421 · · Score: 5, Informative

    You can find a torrent for the big video 2004Apr23_trip.torrent

    1. Re:Torrent link by Bill_Royle · · Score: 2, Interesting

      As a former Oregonian, I'll bite and seed it for a while too :) I will say though that only a masochist would pimp a file that big on Slashdot... of course, you knew that from the 50 other comments here!

      Way to go - fun experiment!

  8. Greetings poster by l0ungeb0y · · Score: 2, Funny

    Slashdotting yourself and posting a 65Mb AVI?

    You must be new around here.
    Or just really needing your ISPs love and attention ...which I'm sure you'll be getting by morning.

    Anyway, it was nice knowing you and all.

  9. Re:Best Wey by mastergoon · · Score: 2, Funny
    This has to be the absolutlu best wey to get slashdoted. Hasnt Bittorrent teched us anything?

    It ain't done teached me nothin

  10. Sweet! by Piranhaa · · Score: 2, Funny

    I've always wondered how pissed the drivers that passed me were . . . Now I can know!

    1. Re:Sweet! by Tablizer · · Score: 2, Funny

      I've always wondered how pissed the drivers that passed me were . . . Now I can know!

      If he mounted the camera on the rear, we would probably see nothing but middle fingers :-)

  11. Poor guy, server just fried by caryw · · Score: 3, Informative

    It was going good...

    0K (wget dots) 0% @ 372.78 KB/s
    50K (wget dots) 0% @ 279.33 KB/s
    100K (wget dots) 0% @ 271.74 KB/s
    150K (wget dots) 0% @ 2.87 MB/s
    200K (wget dots) 0% @ 1.95 MB/s

    and then it fried....

    34850K (wget dots) 50% @ 74.18 KB/s
    34900K (wget dots) 50% @ 78.25 KB/s
    34950K (wget dots) 51% @ 60.83 KB/s
    35000K (wget dots) 51% @ 56.56 KB/s
    35050K (wget dots) 51% @ 46.64 KB/s

    Slashdot effect in action people... I'll post a BitTorrent if it ever finishes

    Ugh, had to do a find replace of all the ..........'s wget makes. Damn lameness filter

  12. Re:Why not just record straight to the hard disk? by einer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    is there any performance hit or other reason why you wouldn't record straight to (RAM then) hard disk?

    Power for one. An affordable digital video hard disk recording solution may consume more power than a VCR. Remember, at a minnimum you'd have to power a disk, a video encoder and a backplane (unless both the hd and video controllers are integrated I suppose). A professional solution would cost more than a VCR. A homebrew system is possible, but also has drawbacks. It's probably more cumbersome and complicated. VCR's require very little time to get from an unpowered state to an actively recording state since digital solutions may require a booting period. A VCR has standard and easy interface. The homebrew interface may be rougher.

  13. Despite speeding it up 95x... by Texas+Rose+on+Lava+L · · Score: 4, Funny

    The 5 is still boring as hell.

    1. Re:Despite speeding it up 95x... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You Yanks have all the fun. I loved the vid! The sun was shining, there were lots of cars, hills, and fun things to see. This was a really nice slice of life from another part of the world. I would love to see videos from Hong Kong traffic, or races around other parts of the GINORMOUS United States.

    2. Re:Despite speeding it up 95x... by Texas+Rose+on+Lava+L · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually the maximum speed in CA is 70.

      I agree I-10 in Texas sucks. I got pulled over there once for going 79 in a 75. That's right, four miles over the limit. The cop never gave me a ticket nor did he ever intend to. They were just randomly pulling cars over to look for drugs. I guess my California plates looked suspicious in the middle of Bush country.

      Not that I can really complain, since they didn't write a ticket or anything.

  14. I thought the guy built a HYPERSONIC plane. by zymano · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now that would be cool.

  15. 950 miles in 6 minutes by jlanthripp · · Score: 3, Funny

    Sounds like how I drive...

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  16. Ads? by Johnathon_Dough · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Maybe this is all a big marketing ploy?

    1. Send thousands of people to download a huge .avi

    2. Make sure your ad for a "great web host" is in plain text at the top of the page.

    3. Listen to the collective gasp as your site actually manages to keep up with the downloads (as of 11:20pm pacific)

    4. Profit?

    Of course the whole thing goes out the window if the server actually does crap out in about 5-6 hours when the east coast get's to work and collectively hits the download link in one giant spasm of excitement at the chance of seeing the %$&%-ing highway 5.

    weee?

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    1. Re:Ads? by Johnathon_Dough · · Score: 4, Funny
      I don't know why I am bothering to an AC...but...

      For what it's worth, living in both LA and SF I almost never hear it refered to as "interstate 5" it is reffered to as either "highway five", or more often, just "the five".

      Actually, even more often it is referred to as "what? you mean I HAVE to take the fucking five!?"

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    2. Re:Ads? by Phroggy · · Score: 2, Informative

      Could be. In Portland we call it I-5; I've never heard it called Highway 5 before.

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    3. Re:Ads? by anim8 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Funny how local naming schemes evolve.

      For years I-5 was the only significant interstate in the Portland area. And everyone calls it I-5. As the population has grown we have built more interstates:

      I-205 runs from Tualatin through E. Portland and into Vancouver, WA. People just call it 205.

      I-405 runs from W.Portland to 205 in E. Portland. Most people call it The Banfield.

      I-84 runs from the I-405/I-205 junction in Portland thru eastern Oregon into Idaho and beyond. And it's commonly called I-84.

      So the old-timers have always prefixed the "I" onto the number because they were the only Interstates in town and it has stuck.

      Now, take LA and SF. They have so many interstates running through town that when talking with others about traffic routes the natural tendency is to strip syllables and give them names instead of numbers ... The Five.

      Someone oughta write a book.

  17. The camera and VCR only cost about $50 total by Zardus · · Score: 4, Funny

    However, after the server exploded due to Slashdotting and started a huge fire resulting in the destruction of his house, the neighborhood, and most of LA, the total cost of the trip was estimated at 8.5 billion USD.

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  18. Re:Question about his methods by ntrktv · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Video = 30fps you have to drop frames to speed it up.

  19. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  20. Re:Pretty groovy... by acceber · · Score: 5, Interesting
    As somebody who lives outside the US, the video was interesting for a number of different reasons.

    Americans drive left-hand drive cars and drive on the right hand side of the road. I had to take travel sickness tablets after watching that.

    Having never been to America, I now have an insight to what the scenery from LA to Oregon is like.

    The roads are a lot wider? Is that because the US has bigger cars?

    I think I shall drive from Sydney to the Gold Coast in Brisbane and do the same thing to compare and contrast with that video. Although I doubt the scenery would be as interesting as the route follows the coastline.

  21. Thanks by BitHive · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I enjoyed watching your video. Thank you for making it!

  22. Sign of the times on The Coast by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Funny

    In about 30 of the frames I could have sworn I saw geeks on the side of the road with "Will Code for Food" signs.

  23. i've done this myself and I offer these tips by aardwolf204 · · Score: 5, Informative
    I did this with my Canon ZR80 and got some good results using Vegas 4. I offer these suggestions to anyone who wants to try this themselves:

    Do not move the camera. Use a tripod. If you cant rig up a full size tripod in the passenger seat check best buy or similar stores for tiny desktop tripods. They work well when seated on the dash as long as you have something to keep them in place (duct tape).

    Cut out moments in post when your vehicle is not moving. I forgot to do this once and my video came to a 3 second hault as I reached an intersection. Needless to say it distracted from the video greatly and was truly annoying. Just trim it out so that it looks like you ran the red light or something and the video will continue to flow. This tip also goes for bumps or swerves as they look terrible at high speed.

    Do not add a blur effect in post production, or atleast not the ones that come with Vegas. They seriously distract from the video. If you need that light-speed look I suggest duplicating the video layer, moving the top one forward 2 or 3 frames and changing its opacity to 50%. This will create a cool effect especially when passing cars and changing lanes

    If you are going to mount the camera inside the car (which I highly suggest) make sure:

    A. Your windshield is clean

    B. Its not raining. I did this once with the windshield wipers on and it looked horrible

    C. Your state and county stickers are not in the picture. If the camera does move it will be much more noticable if there is a static image on the video.

    If you are going to tape more than an hour of driving you may want to setup a laptop on an inverter hooked up to the camera with firewire set to take an image every X seconds. You can then drag all of these into your favoriate post video production software but in my experiences you dont get as smooth an image unless you overlap the images with opacity fades and by that time its become one helluva project

    Tip for vegas: You can increase the velocity encelope up to 300% but thats not a whole lot. Do this alone with shortening the clip while holding down the CTRL key will allow for up to 12x the speed without the need to reencode.

    If you need to speed up the video faster than what your post video production software can do you can always render the video no or low compression, import the now rendered video and do it again. lather, rinse, repeat.

    And always:

    Mix it to good techno if thats your cup of tea

    I'm interested in hearing what other tips video enthusiast slashdoters have come up with. Please share.

    As always I apologize for the bad spelling and horrible formatting, I'm rushing to get to sleep

    BTW: This also works well for filming Ballroom Dancing. It looks hillarious and cool at the same time. Try overlaying multiple segments of the dance at different oppacities and adding a black and white or sepiatone filter and playing witht the white balance for a great ghostly look.

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    1. Re:i've done this myself and I offer these tips by schwaang · · Score: 3, Interesting
      If you weren't maxed already I'd bump you +1.

      For fun I do time-lapse of relatively stationary stuff - like plants growing, where the speed-up really brings out patterns that you don't see at normal speed.

      Maybe that's why I actually liked the part in this video where he's parked at a gas station and you see some plants blowing in the wind, for a change of pace.

      Some issues are different when you're doing a time-lapse over 1 hour versus multiple days. But one thing that I've found useful for slow-changing stuff is if you're taking say 1 frame per hour of a macro subject outdoors that can easily blow in and out of focus, take two frames in rapid succession so you can throw the worst one away.

  24. Freecache link by Lord+Prox · · Score: 5, Informative
    1. Re:Freecache link by ZenBased · · Score: 5, Informative
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  25. If only... by Lakers · · Score: 2, Funny

    As a fellow geek that does this exact drive about 4 times a year, I must say that 6 minutes is extremely appealing.

    Many times during the monotony of the drive up I-5 I've wished I could teleport (even only 20 miles at a time). Mach 9 sounds just as appealing.

  26. Re:Pretty groovy... by tarunthegreat2 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Well the roads are a lot wider because they do have pretty much a whole continent to themselves, and only about 260 Million people to populate it with. Some people have all the luck. Try driving in India. 1/4 the area of USA, and 4 times the population, and yes, they do own cars in India.

  27. Cross-Country video by JWSmythe · · Score: 4, Informative

    For those that can't see the slashdotted site, our automatic mirrors have the page itself HERE. The backup site (listed on the page) still has the video available.

    I did the same thing driving with only one sleep stop from Florida to California. It ended up being rather boring. Lots of night driving where you could only see tail lights and reflectors, and plenty of "Road Runner" desert country. :)

    I shortened the whole 2500 mile drive down to 5 minutes, which was too much for most people to watch.

    I did a web broadcast for most of the drive, losing my Internet connection while driving through most of the South West US. It picked back up in the few major cities that I passed through, and that's when I got all the voicemails on my phone saying "Hey, your feed broke!" :)

    Most of the drive was rather quick. I got pulled over twice in Texas, where the cops were entertained to see a laptop in the passenger seat and a camera on the dash. Either of them asked why it was there, they just gave me a warning, and I went on my way. I really had the urge to tell the cops "My car can do almost 200mph, I'm doing 80mph, I want to go lots faster, there's nothing out here and no traffic!", but I held back to avoid an escort out of Texas. :)

    I got stuck in traffic going through San Antonio, Texas, which looked wierd on the video. Scenery was flying by, suddenly you saw the same minivan I was stuck behind for several frames. You could also see every time I stopped for gas, which lasted for just a couple frames.

    I made a run from LA to Salem Oregon and back, about a year ago. The drive took from Friday evening to Sunday morning. Again, it would have been a boring video. Most of Northern California was during the night, and Oregon was all under fog first thing in the morning when we arrived. I was in a rush, so we didn't get the laptop and camera set up for this one.

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  28. California 7A88404, Thats me! by aardwolf204 · · Score: 4, Funny

    California 7A88404, That was me!

    3:39 seconds in

    Is it just me or at the 5:00 point does it looks like he started speeding like a bat out of hell?

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    1. Re:California 7A88404, Thats me! by gkwok · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It probably only seems faster at 5m00s because the road becomes more twisty, and there are suddenly trees on both sides of the road. With more visual cues to reference, the eye believes it's going faster.

  29. Way cooler.. by superhoe · · Score: 5, Interesting

    .. are those flicks where somebody put up a camera to follow the building of a house, and then speeded the result it up by 200x or similar. That really cool to see a house 'grow' :) If anyone remembers urls to these flicks, post 'em in, I can't remember anymore..

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    1. Re:Way cooler.. by Tokerat · · Score: 2, Informative


      That's called "Time lapse photography", google for it, I'm sure there is plenty out there.

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    2. Re:Way cooler.. by beeplet · · Score: 3, Informative

      The MIT Stata Center page has a link to their time-lapse webcam which captured the whole thing being built... I watched it for a while but it really wasn't all that exciting. Maybe with some editing (like taking out the night-time parts) it would have been more interesting to watch, but then I guess it would lose some of the authenticity...

  30. Re:Thanks WHAT?! by Lord+Prox · · Score: 4, Funny

    I enjoyed watching your video. Thank you for making it!

    [sarcasm]
    This is /. you are not supposed to THANK anyone for doing anything useful/creative/interesting with technology you are supposed to bitch/complain/nit pick. Now get with the program.
    [/sarcasm]

  31. Well, you could use the New England highway... by GrahamCox · · Score: 2, Informative

    ..instead. It would be a more interesting route as you have to climb then descent the Great Dividing Range, and it's actually shorter than the Pacific Highway. Just a thought! Oh, and stop off in Armidale while you're at it and spend some tourist dollars ;-)

  32. Re:LA to Oregon? by Concerned+Onlooker · · Score: 2, Informative
    LA is a city

    Actually, LA is a state, L.A. is a city. Then again, L.A. is more like a state of mind so maybe it was appropriate after all.

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  33. ROAD TRIP by BrookHarty · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ok, now if you slow it down, you can find out exactly where he lives! Turn at the white fence!

    First one there, MOBLOG IT!

    GO!

  34. Re:Question about his methods by Osty · · Score: 4, Informative

    The limit on what we can percieve is 60 frames per second or something in that arena, you do the math.

    Incorrect. First off, the eye doesn't see in "frames per second". Second, 60 fps is well below the maximum frame rate our eyes can see (nobody has yet proven a maximum frame rate). For example, look at a CRT monitor at 60Hz and then one at 100Hz. I bet you can tell the difference (yes, Hz and fps are different, but they're similar enough for this discussion). If you can't, or won't admit that you can, you'll still know when you have crazy eye fatigue and neck muscle strain later. The same goes for flourescent lights at 60Hz.


    People make the mistake of saying that the eye can only see X frames per second (where X is 24, 30, 60, or what have you), when they mean to say, "It only takes X frames per second for the eye to discern motion," where X decreases as effects such as motion blur are added to the source media. 24 frames per second of a video game like Quake sucks horribly, but 24 frames per second for a movie is acceptable because the film camera picks up motion blur. That's also ignoring the fact that video games are measured in average frames per second (your 24fps Quake game is going to slow down horribly when you get multiple meshes and particles going). It's also horribly evident that 24fps is not nearly enough when you watch long horizontal or vertical pans in movies.


    Just because movies play at 24fps, or NTSC plays at 30fps (well, 29.xxx fps, and shown in half-frames for an effective 60Hz refresh rate), or PAL is at 25fps, or your LCD monitor happens to refresh at 60Hz doesn't mean that's all the eye can see. I'm also ignoring the more motion-receptive portions of your eye (peripheral vision), which you can play around with by looking at a CRT out of the corner of your eye. I bet you can even tell that a 100Hz CRT flickers by looking at it that way.

  35. He seems a dangerous driver (serious) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You made a good joke, but having watched the video, the guy does appear to be a very impatient driver. Time after time after time, he runs right up to someone's bumper in the left lane, follows very closely for some time, then winds up passing them on the right.

    I spend a lot of my time doing interstate driving. As such, I realize that there are plenty of assholes out there doing 65mph in the passing lane where the speed limit is 70. But drivers who tailgate in the passing lane (or any lane, really) are IMO just as much of a risk for accidents.

    When you're in the far left lane, and you're gaining quickly on the car in front of you, you should either move to the immediate right lane and complete your pass at a safe distance, or if conditions don't allow this, slow the fuck down and back it off. Riding the bumper of the person in front of you because they're driving too slowly is NOT the proper response. Nine times out of ten, the driver in front of you is not going to "get the message" and yield his position.

    This is a great video, I just wish it didn't depict so many examples of poor and unsafe driving.

    1. Re:He seems a dangerous driver (serious) by ComaVN · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I didn't study it as closely as you did, but I've seen more of these time-lapse driving things, and it ALWAYS looks like the driver is a speeding maniac, brakes too late, makes erratic turns etc.

      I think it's the same effect you get when driving as a passenger: when you cannot control the vehicle, a distance you would judge as safe when driving yourself, suddenly seems a bit close.

      Add the (seemingly) extreme decelleration (sp?) and erratic steering, and it looks a lot more extreme than it really is.

      You make a good point about safety though. Anyway, it seems to be human nature to respond to people pushing from behind by slowing down.

      What I usually do, is use the turn signal to indicate I want to pass, and if that doesn't work, a brief flash of the headlights usually does the trick. There is a difference in road behaviour in different countries though: In Germany, this works great, in France or The Netherlands, not as good. Germans are used to people passing at 190km/h.

      Of course, our situation in Europe is a bit worse, because it's illegal to overtake on the right.

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    2. Re:He seems a dangerous driver (serious) by mpmansell · · Score: 5, Funny

      Of course, our situation in Europe is a bit worse, because it's illegal to overtake on the right.

      Unless you are in the UK where its the only side you are allowed to pass on :)
    3. Re:He seems a dangerous driver (serious) by WiseWeasel · · Score: 3, Informative

      In the US, it's illegal to BE passed on the right. It is your duty to be as far right as possible (within reason). Too bad no one follows this rule, and you have to ride people's asses or just pass them on the right. Flash your lights at someone, and you're liable to get shot...

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    4. Re:He seems a dangerous driver (serious) by ComaVN · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Thank you for making the road a more dangerous place.

      What, it hurts your ego to be passed by someone?

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    5. Re:He seems a dangerous driver (serious) by RichardX · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That really makes you a bit of a twat then, doesn't it. You realise you're just increasing that driver's frustration, making it more likely an accident will occur?

      And be very careful. Should an accident occur while you're pulling this stunt, even if it's through no fault of your own, you may end up taking the blame, as you were deliberately blocking another driver. The "Yeah, but he was being an asshole!" defence doesn't tend to stand too well

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    6. Re:He seems a dangerous driver (serious) by revmoo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If anyone flashes me (UK) in this fashion I deliberately make their task of passing as difficult as possible.

      Hey, why do you suppose it's called the passing lane?

      People accidentally loiter in the passing lane all the time, it's easy to drift off and not realize where you are, but when you are reminded nicely to get out of the way(flashing lights), and you not only refuse, but start being an asshole about it you deserve be pulled over and fined.

      Being passed in the passing lane is illeagal here, and for good reason. How would you feel if you were being taken to the hospital with a critical illness, only to be held up on the way by some idiot with a sore ego and something to prove?

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    7. Re:He seems a dangerous driver (serious) by tiled_rainbows · · Score: 5, Funny

      It is your duty to be as far right as possible

      Ah, I knew there was something funny about your political system! Thanks for clearing that up. It all makes sense now.

    8. Re:He seems a dangerous driver (serious) by Caeda · · Score: 2, Informative

      " In the US, it's illegal to BE passed on the right." You must live in a different US than I live in. In the US that I live in, we have these things called "passing lanes." These lanes can be on the right, or the left. In fact, they even teach this concept in "drivers education" about it being legal to pass as long as there is a clear and designated lane in which to do it...

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    9. Re:He seems a dangerous driver (serious) by LordBodak · · Score: 4, Interesting

      In Virginia, failure to yield the passing lane, regardless of speed, is illegal. Unfortunately, it's not enforced as often as it should be.

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    10. Re:He seems a dangerous driver (serious) by Sinter · · Score: 3, Funny

      Just this winter, my friend and I were driving very early in the morning, on a nearly empty highway in farily dense fog. He was in the fast lane, and came upon a car that was going significantly slower than he. Now, he had plenty of room to pass on the right, but he decided to flash his lights at this car, but realized too late that it was a Cop!

      We got pulled over, and the officer told us that it was actually illegal to flash your high-beams for any reason. You know why? It blinds the oncoming traffic!

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    11. Re:He seems a dangerous driver (serious) by photon317 · · Score: 2, Informative


      Nope. His wording makes it sound funny because he's stating things a little differently than the law does, but he's essentially correct for how the TX traffic laws are. I think it's reasonable of me to assume that other states (at least some of them) would be similar.

      "Slower traffic keep right" is a legal obligation - so if you're going slower than someone and you don't yield to the right to allow them to pass on the left, you can be ticketted for it. The "passing lane" is always the leftmost - it is never explicitly designated to be anywhere else. On multi-lane freeways (I don't know if this starts at 3 or 4 lanes), the leftmost lane is considered a true "passing-only lane", which is to say that not only do you have an obligation to yield out of it for faster traffic - you have a legal obligation to not be in the lane to begin with unless you're in the act of passing someone else, or you're in an emergency (or you're a cop/ambulance/firetruck with the lights running). This rule breaks down in heavier traffic, never seen it enforced at those times, but I'm not sure if they actually wrote in an exception to the law for heavy/slow traffic.

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    12. Re:He seems a dangerous driver (serious) by Bellyflop · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's not a god-given right. It's a law-given privledge. I think people in the US seem to forget that driving is a privledge, not a right. Society is allowing you to put the rest of us at risk by allowing you to operate a machine that weighs several thousand pounds at high speeds. You pose a significant risk to MANY other people and as such, you have no right to make it even more risky by driving too fast.

    13. Re:He seems a dangerous driver (serious) by op00to · · Score: 5, Informative

      Wrong, wrong, wrong.

      I am schooled as a transportation planner. That being said, traffic laws vary from state to state, but in general, every state has laws against impeding traffic. While you are correct that driving over the speed limit is illegal, it is importatn to note that impeding the flow of traffic is also illegal. Even if someone is speeding, you are still required to yield well in advance to the overtaking vehicle.

      Sorry bub, you're not allowed to play traffic cop in your mom's minivan.

    14. Re:He seems a dangerous driver (serious) by leondrb · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'm not sure about other states but in California it is legal to flash your lights at a slow driver in the left lane. It's just not legal to flash your high beams because of that blinding, swerving, and crashing thing. It will also blind the car you are folowing, not just oncoming trafic, because of the rear view mirror. That's why when you are pulled over at night there is usually a bright white light on the crusers light bar shining into your car, and it helps them see you better.

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    15. Re:He seems a dangerous driver (serious) by mrquicknet · · Score: 2, Interesting
      The passing on the right law varies from state to state.

      I had an argument with a friend about this a while ago and each state has their own rules. Some say you can pass on the right.

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    16. Re:He seems a dangerous driver (serious) by Thuktun · · Score: 2, Informative

      [...] but he's essentially correct for how the TX traffic laws are. I think it's reasonable of me to assume that other states (at least some of them) would be similar. "Slower traffic keep right" is a legal obligation [...]

      This varies by state. Some states have no laws to that effect, some at the other end of the spectrum have laws that you cannot be in the leftmost lane on certain roadways unless you're passing, and some are somewhere in the middle.

    17. Re:He seems a dangerous driver (serious) by kharchenko · · Score: 2, Informative

      More to the point, these rules are not enforced by police, and most drivers are not even aware of them.

      Another factor compounding the problem is low speed limits - a person going 55mpg in a leftmost lane has all reason to believe that noone should have a right to pass him.

  36. Re:LA to Oregon? by kfg · · Score: 2, Funny

    L.A. is more like a state of mind

    Actually, it's more like a state of no mind.

    KFG

  37. Re:Pretty groovy... by DZign · · Score: 2, Interesting

    yep, as a European I also appreciate this movie.. gives you a better idea how it looks like somewhere else.

    Same thing with the other /. post last week of a truck driving through the USA to take pictures of every street. Would be cool if it got online so everyone could access it.

    Some people I email with have sent me links to sites of local newspapers and things like that
    so at least I have an idea of how their town looks like and what's going on.

    Because if you live in a city or in a heavily populated country in Europe, it's easy to think everyone lives in a city..
    Quite difficult to understand that someone lives in the middle of nowhere or in a very small town..

  38. Similar experience... by HorsePunchKid · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Not quite on that scale and not taken that seriously. I set up my Olympus E-10 on a tripod in my back seat and had it take a picture every five minutes during a straight 17.5 hour drive from Boston to Champaign, IL. It worked out pretty well, considering...

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  39. Just be sure to turn your camera off when... by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 4, Funny

    Just be sure to turn your camera off when you drive past Barbra Striesand's House.

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  40. actually a slashdotting would sound like this by nounderscores · · Score: 4, Funny

    #1:"Hey, we're getting a lot of traffic from..."
    #1 & #2: "SLASHDOT!!!"
    #2:"quick redirect all traffic to that goatse.cx guy's website!"

  41. Re:Pretty groovy... by st1d · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Um, nice thought, but they're built that way because the folks at the pentagon set the standard. City roads (Detroir in my case), can be tiny, hazardous little lanes, but interstates have to be able to move certain equipment in times of emergency. Blame it on WWII, the Cold War, or terrorism. Interstate lane sizes (and those state roads that want bases nearby) are determined by the largest equipment the military is willing to move in a hurry. Obviously, having one 30 ft wide lane wouldn't appeal to the citizens, but having 3-4 M1A1*s cruising at highway speeds is a reasonable alternative.

    Not that we'll ever need it, but hey, they might end up a legacy like those old roman roads you European folks are so proud of. :)

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  42. Re:Pretty groovy... by lewko · · Score: 5, Interesting
    In the Northern Territory (central Australia towards the top of the country) most areas outside major towns have no speed limit posted on the highways simply because the distances are so large, and there are so few other vehicles.

    There's something really cool about driving at 160kmh, seeing a highway patrol car and freaking out that you are busted until he overtakes you at 180kmh and waves...

    The bad news is that if you are a long way from somewhere when your car overheats and breaks down, you will probably die.

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  43. Driving 'round Australia-Konigsberg Bridge problem by kale77in · · Score: 2, Funny

    One more good reason to drive round Australia! Only 16,000 kms if I ferry the car across to Tasmania as well. Alice Springs (and Ayer's Rock, the Olga's, Katherine Gorge, etc) creates a Konigsberg Bridge problem, however, since I won't be departing from either Darwin or Adelaide, but would like to do a north-south traversal as well. Darn graph theory...

  44. Re:Pretty groovy... by kfg · · Score: 2, Funny

    I never said that the freight trucks weren't military in purpose.

    KFG

  45. Trippy road trip by srenker · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Offtopic me if you must, but I was reminded of this video from Britain. It's not nearly as long, but it covers a stretch of motorway that uses reversible lanes without a center divider!

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    1. Re:Trippy road trip by op00to · · Score: 2, Informative

      Boo! That's nothing. Try taking the Lincoln Tunnel from NYC to NJ at morning rush hour. There is a center concrete divider, but the fun part is that the far left lane of the outbound (NYC-NJ) lanes are used as a inbound bus lane! No divider there. Imagine driving out of NY at 60mph, and driving straight on at busses at 60mph. That, my friend, is hair raising.

  46. Re:Question about his methods by Osty · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Wow so now a frequency measurement is equal to fps...ok wonderboy, then why not just up the refresh if it's close enough for your argument...fps is not soley determined by the video card..put your 500 dollar card in a p3 and watch it goto shit...

    I didn't say that. I said they're comparable. If you want to be technically correct, frame rate and refresh rate are linked by vsync (ie, a monitor that can only do 60Hz will risk image tearing if you push your frame rate beyond 60fps. That's why any good game allows you to lock to vsync for a consistent frame rate, or take your chances and disable vsync waiting and just go for broke). In terms of what the eye can see, refresh rate and frame rate are similar in that you can still see jerky motion even at 60+ fps, and you can still see flicker at 60+ Hz.


    You're correct that there's a CPU component to video card performance. You certainly can put a $500 video card in a P3, though you won't use much of its potential. However, you are buying yourself a bit of breathing room so that you don't have to upgrade your video card next time you want to upgrade your CPU (why would you buy a $500 video card and not get a $100 CPU upgrade, though?).


    All else being equal (meaning a modern CPU, modern memory architecture like DDR or RDRAM (guh!), etc), a higher frame rate is better. If you have the money, go for the best out there. If you're on a budget, get the best card you can afford. If you want to play modern games, you're not really saving much by buying a $100 video card each year versus buying a $300-500 card every 2-3 years. Be my guest, go out and buy that GeForce4 MX card you've had your eyes on. Even my lowly original GeForce3 will beat that, and I paid less than $300 for that 2+ years ago.

  47. Can't sleep? by l0wland · · Score: 2, Informative
    Couple of years ago there was a TV-program on the German TV, where a camera was mounted on a train. This train drove through different countries and sceneries.

    This programm was broadcasted at night, and was the best ever sleeping-drug I could imagine. Watching it after a busy day, it took only like 10 minutes before I fell in a deep sleep.

    BTW you don't need a car and a VCR to create movies like this. If you live next to water where boats go by, or a busy road, or construction-works, it's very easy to create a timelapse-movie with only a webcam and webcam-software. Just make a pic every second, and use a tool to stitch all those pics to 1 movie afterwards. I did this a lot with cloudy skies, and it much fun to watch afterwards.

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    1. Re:Can't sleep? by mikael · · Score: 4, Informative

      BTW you don't need a car and a VCR to create movies like this. If you live next to water where boats go by, or a busy road, or construction-works, it's very easy to create a timelapse-movie with only a webcam and webcam-software. Just make a pic every second, and use a tool to stitch all those pics to 1 movie afterwards. I did this a lot with cloudy skies, and it much fun to watch afterwards.

      I'll back this one up. It's definitely worth trying. It's just amazing the things you can see. If you're looking in the direction of an airport, a time-lapse movie will make contrails appear like missile launches. You can actually see the shadows of cirrus clouds moving across cumulus clouds. The most amazing thing is seeing the different cloud layers travelling in different (if not totally opposite) directions. The best frame rate I've found is taking 1 frame ever 10 seconds, replaying at 30 frames seconds for clouds.

      You can actually make your own time lapse software using Microsoft's MFC Vidcap demo. Just add a delay loop for the desired number of seconds. The only restriction is that there's a 2.5 Gigabyte file limit (around 2200 640x480 frames).

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  48. Hook up a GPS too... by rediguana · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What would be fun is to hook up a GPS as well, and overlay a moving map on the video as well. I must try this in New Zealand, as we have some awesome highways through the Southern Alps and lovely driving road... mmmmm...

  49. Travel CD - Game by Grummet · · Score: 2, Interesting

    what would be really cool is if we could get a bunch of truckers from some massive trucking company to put these on their rigs and film different routes.

    same thing - put cameras/VCRs on UPS delivery trucks in cities (hey UPS - would you like to make a deal?) and then collect all of the video, edit it, make it interactive... so you can direct the vehicle...

    or at least create a program that allows for you to give an address and a destination and "voila" there is an automagically created video for you of a possible route.

    That way you can use visual cues so as to avoid getting lost. I bet there are lots of people who can't read maps that would love something like that.

    maybe if i get a gmail account and everyone emails me their video we could use up that terabyte!

    Course, I haven't googled for this so if it already exists...don't crucify me.

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  50. Can't he keep right? by Cobblepop · · Score: 4, Informative

    Well it's confirmed: In over nine hours, he kept to the right for approximately 3 minutes of the trip.

    Great geek; terrible driver: http://www.mit.edu/~jfc/right.html

  51. Mirror by kaltoft · · Score: 2, Insightful

    http://kaltoft.linux.dk/2004Apr23_trip.avi
    http:/ /kaltoft.linux.dk/2004Apr23_trip_small.avi

  52. passing on the right by turbosk · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm glad somebody brought this up. The one thing that incites me to "road rage" is the mf'ers in the "passing lane" who aren't passing anybody, just cruising. There is a special PLACE IN HELL for ppl who drive slow in the left lane.

    Where you live, is driving slow in the passing lane also a 5-point infraction, as it should be for parity's sake? If you're caught driving in the left lane and not passing anyone 20 times, do you lose your license? If not, there's no farking way right-side passing should be illegal.

    geez that felt good.

    fred

  53. She lost! Re:Just be sure to turn your camera off by WolfWithoutAClause · · Score: 3, Funny

    +4 insightful when she lost the case and had to pay legal fees? One word: precedent

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  54. Pride in Road Rage by handy_vandal · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If anyone flashes me (UK) in this fashion I deliberately make their task of passing as difficult as possible. The flashing is normally accompanied by excessive speed, and tailgating.

    This is a profoundly Bad Idea. You're setting the stage for a deadly accident -- perhaps involving you, perhaps involving others.

    Pride in road rage is the Devil's work -- you're making the world a worse place for everyone to live. The world is bad enough already, without such needless provocation. Please think about the dreadful consequences of your actions.

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  55. I personally think motion blur would have helped by Thagg · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Averaging together 50 frames instead of just throwing away 99 in 100 would have made a much smoother video. While you still have all of the frames on line, it might be interesting to try. Even better (for video) would have been creating the final output on fields (60 fps)

    Still, not to look a gift horse in the mouth -- it was a pretty cool video. Thanks!

    thad

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  56. ./ed by darkain · · Score: 2, Funny

    how about someone make a video of loading this site and speed it up 95x, so it appears that the site still loads fast?

  57. Also, a defensive line... by el-spectre · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I live about 2 miles west of Interstate 5 in So. California (right near disneyland). My understanding is that, in the event of a coastal attack, the plan is to fall back to the 5 as a defense line.

    Good plan, except that a couple million of us are between the 5 and the ocean...

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  58. Re:I want to see an around the globe trip! by ajrs · · Score: 2, Funny

    some guys took an eighty day trip around the world and sped it up to take about 2 hours. coming soon to a theater near you.