libertynews writes "Here is a project called P.E.A.R.T. where EE students constructed a drum playing robot using USB controlled pneumatic actuators and MIDI files."
The Site's Slash-dotted, click it and see Net Timeout Errors and 503s
C'mon server, Do the packets do more than bounce?
It's slashdotted, it's slashdotted
I don't get to read their site
Like some other users might
Honey you oughta know
Before it served so fine
There were pages online
I wanna know when this page will finally load
Now it's up to you, make it static
strip the images too
Let the packets through
I wanna read something I never knew
But now it's Slash-dotted, click it and see Net Timeout Errors and 503s
C'mon server, Do the packets do more than bounce?
It's slashdotted, it's slashdotted
If the host is right, it can serve pages all night
But now i'm just slapping keys
Server, you've got to give me a sign come on Google, a cached sign
Tell me, are melting server?
You sure look that way to me
Are you holding up?
Will you be ready if I remember this stuff?
Is my timing right?
Did you save bandwidth for me tonight?
Yeah, it's Slash-dotted, click it and see Net Timeout Errors and 503s
C'mon server, Do the packets do more than bounce?
It's slashdotted, it's slashdotted
Now it's up to you, make it static
strip the images too
Oh, before we do,
you'll have to get rid of a user or two
Well, it's Slash-dotted, click it and see Net Timeout Errors and 503s
C'mon server, Do the packets do more than bounce?
It's slashdotted, it's slashdotted
Slashdotted, at least for tonight
Slashdotted, you were looking so right
Slashdotted, this clicking's gotten me riled
Slashdotted, I have to wait a while
Slashdotted, traffic a little bit high?
Slashdotted, your poor server died
Slashdotted, I hope your doing something
Slashdotted, cause here's your chance for publicity
-- US Democracy:The best person for the job (among These pre-selected choices...)
Re:Pre-emptive Slashdotting?
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BrynM
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I just realized that not only is "Hot Blooded" now stuck in my head - It's also stuck in all of yours. Sorry about that. For those too young to remember this song: Enjoy what you don't know! It will haunt you forever!
-- US Democracy:The best person for the job (among These pre-selected choices...)
Re:Pre-emptive Slashdotting?
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evilviper
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No comments, and the link is ALREADY DEAD.
You changed the status by checking it... Welcome to the world of quantum slashdotting!
Re:Pre-emptive Slashdotting?
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cammoblammo
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The {MP|RI}AA will be banning this next. Look at all that IP that just got thieved!
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Cogito, ergo sig.
Re:Pre-emptive Slashdotting?
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Concerned+Onlooker
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That's awesome, but given the subject matter of the article it should have been to the tune of something by Rush.:-)
-- http://www.rootstrikers.org/
Re:Pre-emptive Slashdotting?
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Rolo+Tomasi
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{MP|RI}AA
Didn't you get the news? MPAA and RIAA have merged. They're called the Music And Film Industry Association now.
-- Did you know you can fertilize your lawn with used motor oil?
The goggles do nothing!
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stienman
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Probably named after Neil Peart, Drummer for Rush.
-Adam
Re:The goggles do nothing!
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crucini
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You reckon?
Re:The goggles do nothing!
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layingMantis
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one of the best drummers ever, too. Although I can't listen to them too much these days - Rush was a big high school loner geek thing for me. Rush sucks now anyway - last good albumn was Roll The Bones in like '92.
~mantis
Re:The goggles do nothing!
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CausticPuppy
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Probably named after Neil Peart, Drummer for Rush.
No. Surely it's just a coincidence.
-- -CausticPuppy
"Of all the people I know, you're certainly one of them." -Somebody I don't know
Re:The goggles do nothing!
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Shant3030
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Probably?
-- 100% Insightful
Re:The goggles do nothing!
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Shant3030
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2. Permanent Waves (1980) This album came right before MP, and is almost at the same level musically and technically. It has just the right blend of "commercial" Rush sound and their metal roots (but for those who can't handle Geddy's voice, I can't think of any more extreme example of his patented "shriek" han the "cell of awareness" line in Freewill). First Rush album I ever bought... Natural Science is probably my favorite Rush tune.
5. Vapor Trails (2002) - The most recent album, came out last year after a 5-year hiatus. People have complaints about the technical uality, but the songs are very, very good I 100% agree with you. I definitely enjoy this album. What amazes me more than anything is that they have been doing this for 30 years and still rockin! I saw them this past summer at Jones Beach and they sounded great. Suprisingly, after all that strain Geddy has put on those vocal chords, he sounds good.
Love the Rush post!
-- 100% Insightful
Re:The goggles do nothing!
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lateralus_1024
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Without a doubt one of the best ever.
-- If you think/. comments are bad, check out Digg.
Feed it a MIDI file for Moby Dick
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HornWumpus
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Watch it self distruct.
-- John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
Re:Just what we need.
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Digi-John
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Drum circles, heh.
When I was at Evergreen Boy's State, we started every town meeting off with 2 minutes freestyle drumming... on chairs, desks, notepads, whatever.
We could have used this robot, it would have been the only one with a sense of tempo:-) For a bunch of musicians (probably half of us played), we sure couldn't keep a beat.
Note that my "city" was probably the weirdest of all. We had our drumming, we came up with the first "boring meeting call-and-response" things, we had the white guy with dreadlocks, we had a Greeting Committee to tell us how to say hi to each other, a Most Elite Gaming Committee for setting up Ultimate Frisbee games, a rule that non-residents must ask permission before entering our hallways, and the call "bombs away" was required when flushing a toilet.
Wow, I digress. Drumming robots good, drum circles bad.
-- Klingon programs don't timeshare, they battle for supremacy.
One to set the tempo would be nice for sure..I just picture robby the robot with a giant drum strapped to his chest
Ha Ha its dead.
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Anonymous Coward
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There should be an automatic test ran before each article is posted to test the server. A failure should either delay the article or mirror it somewhere else.
Re:Ha Ha its dead.
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Zardus
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Mate, I'm recovering from a particularly nasty bout of the flu which has threatened to spoil my five year vomit free record (I'm seriously hoping to pass Jerry Seinfeld).
I went that close to losing more than just my up (down?) time then...
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Cogito, ergo sig.
Peart?
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Anonymous Coward
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You can almost smell the cease and desist, can't you?
From: TETRAHEDRON GLOBAL LAWYERCORP LAWDRONE 234235/23 On behalf of: Rush Re: TRADEMARK INFRINGEMENT
Animusic lives!
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Chmarr
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Cool! The first part of Animusic has come alive... Now if they can only duplicate the ball-shooting music machine, I'd be in heaven.
Brief: Animusic is a bunch of animated music clips, where the animation is controlled by a MIDI file. Some great animation, and great music, in there.
Brief: Animusic is a bunch of animated music clips, where the animation is controlled by a MIDI file. Some great animation, and great music, in there.
It's also worth mentioning that there's a Real-Time version of Pipe Dream (from Animusic) on ATI's web site. It'll run on any ATI DirectX9 compatible card, probably not nVidia cards though. But you can also play the MPG which is nearly identical to the pre-rendered original Animusic version. And with the PEART article slashdotted, you might as well watch this instead.:-)
-- -CausticPuppy
"Of all the people I know, you're certainly one of them." -Somebody I don't know
Sure a build your own drum playing robot, sounds great... Slave over it, loose sleep programming it, pour your hard earned money into it... Next thing you know it runs off to Hollywood to start a band... Yeah you MAY get a postcard occasionally... You may see it during guest appearances on TechTV but, will it care you are up fretting it's getting its proper upgrades? NO!
It sounds like a recipe for heartache... Sorry, I've said too much already...
-- Instead of raising your voice, try strengthening your argument.
Sure a build your own drum playing robot, sounds great... Slave over it, loose sleep programming it, pour your hard earned money into it...
Alan White of Yes, and his tech Reek Havok did precisely that. Alan used 8 MIDI-triggered robodrums on their summer tour.
Read Reeks account of the project here: http://www.yesworld.com/yw_tourlog_2004.html
Since TFA is/.ed, enjoy the story of someone else who did it.
Roger Dean had provided conceptual drawings of the stage he was to design. This design included 8-10 "Auxiliary" bass drums with beaters on them. Roger had left the activation of these bass drums up to Alan and the Band.
Alan contacted me to work with him on this design. I had previously designed a robotic drum kit for Experience Music Project's "Sound Lab"gallery and am well versed in this concept.
-- And you, madam, are very ugly. In the morning, I shall be sober.
wtf would I do with a drum playing robot? I would think the amount of effort to put together one would vastly outweigh my ammusement of watching a tin can play the drums.
The fact is that a pnumatic "robot" can play the drums faster than just about any human drummer. It would be pretty impressive to hear live, acoustic drum riffs at 200+ bpm...
Check out Hate Eternals drummer Derek Roddy his band triggers live (its death metal - and sounds pretty messy without it) but Im fairly confident he could blast that long for quite some time!
Another noteable mention is Flo from Cryptopsy, and Brodequins drummer (I forget his name)
I was thinking in the context of robot making, a drum player is pretty straight-forward. Anyways that trumpet playing robot is more-what I would expect to find on slashdot:)
So, it depends on how good it sounds; I mean, if it just has to hit the correct drum at the right time, that's not too hard; but musicianship can't be conveyed very well with MIDI. The same applies to any instrument-playing robot. That being said, making a really basic robot to play the correct notes on a trumpet would be much harder than building a robot to play the correct drums on a trap set. Unfortunately, when Yamaha claimed to make a trumpet-playing robot, they didn't post any actual sound clips as the music it played was under copyright.
Can't understand why; Haydn is better anyway.
-- I used to read Caltizzle. I was a lot cooler than you.
I suspect that making the stick recoil off the drum head after applying a certain amount of force is difficult to calibrate, and even more difficult to modulate. That is, being able to play a range of soft to loud notes require more than just hitting the drum harder or softer, you also have to vary the duration that the stick actually applies force to the drum.
Its really important to be able to precisly adjust these parameters if you want to create a convincing drum roll! It may even be necessary to use two sticks (actuators) just on the snare for a good roll sound.
In the past, I put some thought into doing a project virtually identical to this, and while I never fabricated anything, I came to realize that accuratly mimicking the motion and mechanics of a drum stick striking a recoiling from a drum head is far more difficult than it seems. When their site comes back up, I'll be interested to see how they've pulled this off.
I'm pretty impressed. This guy is way ahead of these EEs. Its too bad most of the video clips have pretty bad sound quality... you can't hear much of the drummer.
Not very high tech anymore
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iammaxus
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As I have been getting more involved in engineering and specifically robotics, I begin to see how rudimentary things like this project really are. You can buy a small system-on-chip processor with built in USB support, hook up some simple relays to control some solenoid valves, and a few days of programming later, bam. I really hope this is a standard project for these students.
I don't think that's a fair statement. If you consider everything "rudimentary" once you have done the design and have only work ahead of you, even a space shuttle is trivial. The rest is just work right? There's the design, which we'll call 1% of the work, and then there's the implementation, which even Einstein thinks is 99% of the work and he was a pretty smart guy.
Anyway, since I live in Union NJ, I have an idea that you may have more access to engineering resources than the average bear. I suggest implementing their design for yourself, you'd be surprised at how much went in to this.
I on the other hand, hope this is not a standard project. The A++ goes out to the people who think up something on their own, figure out how to do it with resources at their disposal, and then actually do it. Forcing everyone to do the same thing (while 80% of them, in my personal experience, copy/cheat) makes for some not-so original thinkers.
Re:Not very high tech anymore
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iammaxus
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I have, in fact, been working on a project that is essentially much the same thing. A small electric vehicle with 3 degrees of freedom. I have written software to run on an embedded processor, designed some circuits and designed the mechanical parts of the machine. Anyway, since you are in my area and seem to be interested in this field, I encourage you to check out the link in my profile. We would be glad to have some help:)
fun noise generator...
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Sam+Nitzberg
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cat/dev/random |/dev/drum
Re:fun noise generator...
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Scum+Puppy
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I hope the robot isn't running BSD, heh. Not sure if this is still true, but amusing none the less.
That said, I don't think that while not ground breaking, making a drum playing robot would still be a lot of work, especially one that was easy to program.
Cool! Now all we need is a bass-playing bot, and we could have a fully robotic jazz quartet with Toyota's trumpet-playing robot, PEART, and a Yamaha Disklavier (solenoid-actuated midi-controlled acoustic piano). And you could have some algorithmic composition software like Max or OpenMusic driving the improvisation....
Re:Q: How many drummers
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Ralph+Wiggam
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What do you call a drummer without a girlfriend?
Homeless
-B
Re:Q: How many drummers
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cammoblammo
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What do you call someone who hangs out with musicians?
A drummer.
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Re:Q: How many drummers
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TheTomcat
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We're starting the drummer jokes?...
Q: how many drummers does it take to screw in a lightbulb? A: one, but he's got a roadie to pick out the bulb, take it out of the box, place it in the threads, and hold it just right until the drummer is ready for it.
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Q: what's the last thing the drummer said before being kicked out of the band? A: hey guys, I wrote a song!
--- Q: why does every band have a bass player? A: SOMEONE has to drive the van.... hear about the bass player who locked his keys in the van? took him 3 hours to get the drummer out.
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I also like the "guy who hangs with musicians" one, but someone beat me to it.
S
Re:Q: How many drummers
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Gordonjcp
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What's the difference between a drummer and a drum machine?
You only need to punch the rhythm into the drum machine once.
Re:Q: How many drummers
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Anonymous Coward
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Drummer jokes will never die...
Little Timmy said he wanted to be a drummer when he grew up. Timmy's mom said "now now honey, you can't do both."
It's impressive that the robot can go through the physical actions of a drummer, however, they've still got a few more features to add. Here's a list of features typical in a drummer:
1) An obnoxious t-shirt. My favorite is the old "Snatch: the Greatest Food on Earth". Of course, there are plenty of others. Alternatively, a lesser drummer might resort to an old hockey jersey, but make sure it has a dozen holes and pizza stains on it.
2) Abhorrent smell. When your eyes water, you're getting close. The smell should be enough to kill a small animal.
3) Repulsive to women. This is more attitude than anything else. Make sure the robot takes credit for everything. The robot should act like Gods' gift to music; he wrote/composed everything and is really the key to the band's success. Also, if there are any guitar robots around trying to hit on bar-bunny robots, make sure drummer robots inturrupts with embarassing stories about the guitar robots.
4) Completely insane tastes in music. Make sure the robot likes nothing more than some obscure late-60's bluegrass band that sold a hundred albums. As a bonus, the robot should get violent when said band's musical ability is questioned. Drummer robot should insist that this band's entire catalog be performed at every gig.
5) Alcoholism. The robot should start drinking in the morning, and won't stop till the next. Make sure the robot whores all the free beer at gigs. For the best realism, make sure this alchohol intensifies all of the other mentioned points. But most importantly, a good drummer always lets alcohol cause him to play poorly. It's never his own fault, of course.
6) Always late. Rehearsal, Gig, Practice, Weddings, ii-V changes, second verse, etc.
-- "God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh." -Voltaire
Naming a robotic drummer after Neil Peart? The irony does not escape me
It does escape most people, until they listen to the tracks he plays on his tribute to Buddy Rich album. For the good of humanity, Neil needs to not attempt to play swing ever again.
-- -CausticPuppy
"Of all the people I know, you're certainly one of them." -Somebody I don't know
Good call - I always thought he sounded a bit robotic on the Rush albums as well. Of course I didn't mind, but I lost interest in Rush right about that time when Neil tried to rap on Roll the Bones. Wow, just the memory made me shiver.
The rap in "Roll The Bones" was a pitch-altered Geddy, not Neil. IIRC, Neil's only vocal contributions over the years are "Subdivisions" and "Attention all planets of the Solar Federation... We have assumed control."
And if you need something to expunge the memory of attempted Canadian hip-hop, I highly recommend Vapor Trails. Geddy may have screwed up the engineering, but he accidentally got them in touch with their inner garage band.
http://www.matthewsteinke.com/ has a work built in '99 (under works->then one of the links at the bottom). I saw it live a couple of years ago - he had a microphone going into a computer then it tried to mimic what the mic picked up using solenoids on different types of percussion instruments.
What do you call a guy...
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falzer
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...who hangs out with three musicians?
The drummer!
*Ba-dum-bump-tsh*
Re:What do you call a guy...
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mabu
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What do you call a drummer who breaks up with his girlfriend?
Homeless.
How do you know when the drum riser is level?
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Anonymous Coward
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The drummer drools out of both sides of his mouth.
How do you know when a drummer is at your door?
The knock speeds up.
Re:How do you know when the drum riser is level?
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liquidsin
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How do you know when a drummer is at your door?
The knocking is out of time and he doesn't know when to come in.
This guy has an entire robotic band. Quite an amazing sight.
What's the name of the guy...
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marktaw.com
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What's the name of the guy who hangs out with the musicians?
The Robot!
Seriously though, this kind of thing was fairly obvious, IMHO. A traditional MIDI drummer triggered sounds in a computer, which came out of a speaker, and probably sounded "close enough" to a real drummer who was recorded and is being played back for most people.
The next logical step is something that could take MIDI instructions, but sound like a live drummer (i.e. not come through a speaker), and the obvious answer to that is a robot drummer.
But tell me, does this robot get drunk and vomit all over itself backstage before the show too? Because if it does, I don't think it's worth the investment.
DDR robot? Probably hard. However, hooking a PS2 to a video capture card, making a PS2-to-PC controller-based interface, and rigging some software to "press" the right buttons when the arrows come up? Easier.
CGI movies driven by MIDI. Pretty neat stuff. Fun to watch. PBS plays some of their stuff before Dr. Who.
What's the MIDI code for stick twirls again?
-- How's my programming? Call 1-800-DEV-NULL
Good drummers are hard to find...
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Lerxst+Pratt
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In this case, percussionist is the correct word. If the namesake is truly Neil Peart, "drummer" is a woefully inadequate descriptor. He is much more accomplished than a mere drummer and this project may wish to aspire to such great heights.
Some people are missing the point and think that this project was invented just to play MIDI drum sounds through a speaker. Although I cannot reach the website because of the slashdotting, I can infer from the original post that this is a real robot playing real drums. This is an admirable feat at the very least.
Having a synthetic Neil Peart would be phenomenal. I'm happy that these students have taken it upon themselves to usher MIDI to the next level by melding it with very real robotic triggers to make the drums sound more realistic. Also, I'm elated that one of the most spectacular and accomplished drummers of our time is being recognized by name with a project such as this.
If you want to check out some real Neil Peart, here's an excellent site for some bootlegs. Just do a search on 'Rush' for the ultimate in percussive listening pleasure!!! IMHCO, a mechanical drummer will never sound this good. If you're sufficiently impressed, go buy the studio albums. You won't regret it.
this is no replacement for neil peart, because it can only interface with 16 devices. neil's kit is a bit larger than that. however, half of neil's kit is electronic already, so using this to play anything from power windows would be kind of redundant. additionally, ive never considered neil a "groove" player, but rather a "64th note cowbell solo" player. hence, a robotic neil peart is more believable than, say, a robotic art blakey or max roach.
Re:Good drummers are hard to find...
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fingerfucker
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Some people are missing the point and think that this project was invented just to play MIDI drum sounds through a speaker. Although I cannot reach the website because of the slashdotting, I can infer from the original post that this is a real robot playing real drums. This is an admirable feat at the very least.
I was able to reach a mirror and must confirm that you are wrong. This is not a real robot playing real drums. This is just a mapping of the MIDI drum instrument to an output device that is not the soundcard with the sound samples but a physical drum.
Moreover apart from the intensity of the drum stick punch, they can't control anything else.
don't forget the monkey drummer
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BlueLines
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chris cunningham did a sweet robotic drummer installation. you can find it here:
I saw a band called Captured by Robots that includes two drum-playing robots, a robot that plays a double-necked guitar, and various and sundry other automated musical instruments.
Puts on quite a show with 'em, too.
What do you call a drummer..
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myke113
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My grandmother's pacemaker runs windows 98.
She can play games, movies and even watch DVDs!
But, sadly, everyonce in a while she'll turn blue and we have to reboot her.
*sigh*
The old days of being up 3 days at a time, coding, and having no one to talk to.
im just glad they used the God of Drummings name for this. Neal Peart deserves recognition - that man is awesome on the drums!
My (original) drummer joke
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Chazmati
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I hung out with a bunch of musicians in high school. Most of these guys were drummers, though, and I play a horn. We were always throwing barbs around, and the drummer jokes always riled these guys up.
The best was this one time when we were all home from college. We found out that one of my drummer friends (and his wife) got duped into the Amway thing. We're at this guy's house when they decide to give us the presentation "for practice". Ugh.
So Chris is in the middle of the presentation, and at this point he's pitching Amway as a great backup in case your regular career falls through. His unfortunate example of how this might happen was always a car crash. He turns to my friend Rob, who had decided to pursue percussion as a career. Rob was attending North Texas State, a top music school. Chris says "Rob, you're going to NTSU, you're going to be an awesome drummer someday, but what if you get in a car crash and... uh... lose your arms?"
Rob grins and says, "Gee Chris, I guess I could sell Amway."
Chris turns to me and says "Dave, you're going to RPI and you're going to be some genius engineer, but what if you get in a car crash and... uh... get brain damaged?"
I look at Rob and say "Well, I guess I could still play the drums!" Rob attacks me and thankfully the scuffle lasted long enough to end the presentation.
I have issue with the name!
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sydbarrett74
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Why couldn't they have called it B.R.U.F.O.R.D (Box of Robot and USB-Fuelled Old Ratty Drums)?
-- 'He who has to break a thing to find out what it is, has left the path of wisdom.' -- Gandalf to Saruman
Or maybe we could get Michael Gavon and Bevin Kendall to plug it into their massive distributed computer S.Y.R.I.N.X. (SYnergistic Resource for Information eXchange, picture an iPod the size of a planet) and play the entire catalog of Rush tunes.
But enough of me... I have to get back to my lab. I'm currently working on the aerodynamics and harmonic pendula to cause laminar flow to make a windchime that plays YYZ.
StarGlider29a "You have the right to remain silent... Anything you say can and will be used in my next book;-)"
Does anyone have anything useful to say?
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fingerfucker
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For those, who wonder that this is the high end of robotic technology, I must disappoint you. This is nothing more but an engineering project to put a bunch of pneumatic valves and map them to a computer. I am not flaming here, don't get me wrong, but to appreciate what they did, one needs to understand what REALLY happened.
Basically what they did, is they mapped physical instruments to what otherwise a sound card would have to generate. A soundcard usually has a set of instrument samples built into it so that it can play MIDI files (MIDI is an established interface to have music-related stuff talk to eatch other and understand music as data).(When a card does it, it's called wavetable synthesis.) People usually load the more advanced ones soundards which have this capability with better-sounding instrument samples and thus get the computer to help them sequence higher-quality music.
So what the project that those guys accomplishes is that now, you can map the "drum instrument" to a physical device instead of an "in-memory sound bank" that would get played through your PC sound system.
Fuck you people, go watch this!!
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fingerfucker
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Time to start a robot band
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SeniorKabong
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Now there's a robotic drum player, and a little over a year ago I was part of a small engineering team that built an automatic harmonica player: http://www.purplehippo.com/ed2/
All we need now is a piano playing robot, and we're good to go! Bring on the record contracts!
No comments, and the link is ALREADY DEAD.
The slashdot effect never fails to amaze me..
There are two kinds of fool. One says, This is old, and therefore good. And one says, This is new, and therefore better.
Probably named after Neil Peart, Drummer for Rush.
-Adam
Watch it self distruct.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
But this time, automated.
sulli
RTFJ.
There should be an automatic test ran before each article is posted to test the server. A failure should either delay the article or mirror it somewhere else.
You can almost smell the cease and desist, can't you?
From: TETRAHEDRON GLOBAL LAWYERCORP LAWDRONE 234235/23
On behalf of: Rush
Re: TRADEMARK INFRINGEMENT
Cool! The first part of Animusic has come alive... Now if they can only duplicate the ball-shooting music machine, I'd be in heaven.
Brief: Animusic is a bunch of animated music clips, where the animation is controlled by a MIDI file. Some great animation, and great music, in there.
Sure a build your own drum playing robot, sounds great...
Slave over it, loose sleep programming it, pour your hard earned money into it...
Next thing you know it runs off to Hollywood to start a band...
Yeah you MAY get a postcard occasionally... You may see it during guest appearances on TechTV but, will it care you are up fretting it's getting its proper upgrades? NO!
It sounds like a recipe for heartache...
Sorry, I've said too much already...
Instead of raising your voice, try strengthening your argument.
wtf would I do with a drum playing robot? I would think the amount of effort to put together one would vastly outweigh my ammusement of watching a tin can play the drums.
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DRMBOT0110 !!!!
easy, theres nothing remotely hard about a drum playing robot... a trumpet playing robot would be more interesting.
As I have been getting more involved in engineering and specifically robotics, I begin to see how rudimentary things like this project really are. You can buy a small system-on-chip processor with built in USB support, hook up some simple relays to control some solenoid valves, and a few days of programming later, bam. I really hope this is a standard project for these students.
cat /dev/random | /dev/drum
does it take to change a drummer?
or:
How many drummers does it take to stop a robot?
What I need is a chick singer who runs off USB
oh wait
she would forget to follow the program. Too realistic.
Firewire.
Physics is like sex: sure, it may give some practical results, but that's not why we do it.
"Percussionist? You know, they have machines that can do that now."
Neither Coral nor Mirrordot managed to grab this one before it went down.
Check out this one from toyota.
That said, I don't think that while not ground breaking, making a drum playing robot would still be a lot of work, especially one that was easy to program.
so does mine, whats your point?
C-3PO was just inducted into The Robot hall of fame.
I wanna see bender get inducted.
http://216.109.117.135/search/cache?p=robotic+drum +machine+midi+%22how+it+works%22&ei=UTF-8&fl=0&vst =0&vs=www.graffagnino.net&u=www.graffagnino.net/ww wpeart/howitworks.htm&w=robotic+drum+machine+midi+ %22how+it+works%22&d=CCDC61028E&icp=1&.intl=us
does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
A: Twenty. One to screw it in, and nineteen to talk about how much better Neil Peart could have done it.
*rimshot*
Haida Manga
It's impressive that the robot can go through the physical actions of a drummer, however, they've still got a few more features to add. Here's a list of features typical in a drummer:
1) An obnoxious t-shirt. My favorite is the old "Snatch: the Greatest Food on Earth". Of course, there are plenty of others. Alternatively, a lesser drummer might resort to an old hockey jersey, but make sure it has a dozen holes and pizza stains on it.
2) Abhorrent smell. When your eyes water, you're getting close. The smell should be enough to kill a small animal.
3) Repulsive to women. This is more attitude than anything else. Make sure the robot takes credit for everything. The robot should act like Gods' gift to music; he wrote/composed everything and is really the key to the band's success. Also, if there are any guitar robots around trying to hit on bar-bunny robots, make sure drummer robots inturrupts with embarassing stories about the guitar robots.
4) Completely insane tastes in music. Make sure the robot likes nothing more than some obscure late-60's bluegrass band that sold a hundred albums. As a bonus, the robot should get violent when said band's musical ability is questioned. Drummer robot should insist that this band's entire catalog be performed at every gig.
5) Alcoholism. The robot should start drinking in the morning, and won't stop till the next. Make sure the robot whores all the free beer at gigs. For the best realism, make sure this alchohol intensifies all of the other mentioned points. But most importantly, a good drummer always lets alcohol cause him to play poorly. It's never his own fault, of course.
6) Always late. Rehearsal, Gig, Practice, Weddings, ii-V changes, second verse, etc.
"God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh." -Voltaire
Naming a robotic drummer after Neil Peart? The irony does not escape me.
One simple rule for its versus it's
If it can unlock The Legend of Zelda Theme in Donkey Konga, let me know. I'll get one.
There are no gods but ourselves.
A robot that plays Rush? This is redundant guys, Sony came out with one years ago called THE WALKMAN
no thanks, already have one.
Sounded and looked fucking amazing. Big crowd pleaser too!
http://www.matthewsteinke.com/ has a work built in '99 (under works->then one of the links at the bottom). I saw it live a couple of years ago - he had a microphone going into a computer then it tried to mimic what the mic picked up using solenoids on different types of percussion instruments.
...who hangs out with three musicians?
The drummer!
*Ba-dum-bump-tsh*
The drummer drools out of both sides of his mouth.
How do you know when a drummer is at your door?
The knock speeds up.
Can it use the drum to send IP packets?
Plans for your own drum robot (second set of plans) These plans are for a robot nearly 100 years old. Back when programs were loaded on paper tape.
I've seen their leader and he lives at Chuck E. Cheese.
http://capturedbyrobots.com/
This guy has an entire robotic band. Quite an amazing sight.
What's the name of the guy who hangs out with the musicians?
The Robot!
Seriously though, this kind of thing was fairly obvious, IMHO. A traditional MIDI drummer triggered sounds in a computer, which came out of a speaker, and probably sounded "close enough" to a real drummer who was recorded and is being played back for most people.
The next logical step is something that could take MIDI instructions, but sound like a live drummer (i.e. not come through a speaker), and the obvious answer to that is a robot drummer.
But tell me, does this robot get drunk and vomit all over itself backstage before the show too? Because if it does, I don't think it's worth the investment.
Has anyone called Spinal Tap yet?
will have to be modified to "the drummer drools oil on both sides of the drummer's mouth."
On the other hand, the joke: Will still be valid, but a bit less funny.
"It is our blasphemy which has made us great, and will sustain us, and which the gods secretly admire in us." - Zelazny
cat /dev/random > /dev/drum
Robots just explode sometimes. Spontaneous combustion. Especially if they're drummers.
Bill Stewart
New Fast-Compression-only CPR http://preview.tinyurl.com/dy575ks
Finally something that can be used to play Donkey Konga for the gamecube so I don't have to. :P
Now only if they could invent a robot to play DDR for that same reason mentioned above....
DEAD DEAD DEAD DELETE ME
http://www.animusic.com
CGI movies driven by MIDI. Pretty neat stuff. Fun to watch. PBS plays some of their stuff before Dr. Who.
What's the MIDI code for stick twirls again?
How's my programming? Call 1-800-DEV-NULL
Some people are missing the point and think that this project was invented just to play MIDI drum sounds through a speaker. Although I cannot reach the website because of the slashdotting, I can infer from the original post that this is a real robot playing real drums. This is an admirable feat at the very least.
Having a synthetic Neil Peart would be phenomenal. I'm happy that these students have taken it upon themselves to usher MIDI to the next level by melding it with very real robotic triggers to make the drums sound more realistic. Also, I'm elated that one of the most spectacular and accomplished drummers of our time is being recognized by name with a project such as this.
If you want to check out some real Neil Peart, here's an excellent site for some bootlegs. Just do a search on 'Rush' for the ultimate in percussive listening pleasure!!! IMHCO, a mechanical drummer will never sound this good. If you're sufficiently impressed, go buy the studio albums. You won't regret it.
chris cunningham did a sweet robotic drummer installation. you can find it here:
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http://www.starpulse.com/Music/Aphex_Twin/Biogr
click on the "monkey drummer" link.
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... the Drum Can Man
That's right. All your base.
I saw a band called Captured by Robots that includes two drum-playing robots, a robot that plays a double-necked guitar, and various and sundry other automated musical instruments.
Puts on quite a show with 'em, too.
What do you call a drummer without a girlfriend?
Homeless =)
-Myke
myke@compassionatecoalition.org
http://www.compassionatecoalition.org
My grandmother's pacemaker runs windows 98. She can play games, movies and even watch DVDs! But, sadly, everyonce in a while she'll turn blue and we have to reboot her. *sigh* The old days of being up 3 days at a time, coding, and having no one to talk to.
Q:What do you call someone who hangs out with musicians?
A:A Drummer
HA! I just wasted some of your bandwidth with a frivolous sig!
Look into astronomical telescope mounts.
I'm guessing that wasn't on their radar screen...
im just glad they used the God of Drummings name for this. Neal Peart deserves recognition - that man is awesome on the drums!
I hung out with a bunch of musicians in high school. Most of these guys were drummers, though, and I play a horn. We were always throwing barbs around, and the drummer jokes always riled these guys up.
The best was this one time when we were all home from college. We found out that one of my drummer friends (and his wife) got duped into the Amway thing. We're at this guy's house when they decide to give us the presentation "for practice". Ugh.
So Chris is in the middle of the presentation, and at this point he's pitching Amway as a great backup in case your regular career falls through. His unfortunate example of how this might happen was always a car crash. He turns to my friend Rob, who had decided to pursue percussion as a career. Rob was attending North Texas State, a top music school. Chris says "Rob, you're going to NTSU, you're going to be an awesome drummer someday, but what if you get in a car crash and... uh... lose your arms?"
Rob grins and says, "Gee Chris, I guess I could sell Amway."
Chris turns to me and says "Dave, you're going to RPI and you're going to be some genius engineer, but what if you get in a car crash and... uh... get brain damaged?"
I look at Rob and say "Well, I guess I could still play the drums!" Rob attacks me and thankfully the scuffle lasted long enough to end the presentation.
Why couldn't they have called it B.R.U.F.O.R.D (Box of Robot and USB-Fuelled Old Ratty Drums)?
'He who has to break a thing to find out what it is, has left the path of wisdom.' -- Gandalf to Saruman
While reading the drummer jokes already posted, I'm reminded of the classic:
Q: "What was the last thing the drummer said before he was kicked out of the band?"
A: "Hey guys, I've got my own songs too.."
Bi-da-ba-da-bo-da-bum-bum-bum-bum....
Well you can bite my shiny metal ass.
Unofficial Slashdot Poll
"All this machinery making modern music can still be..." This is cool/insane. I could team this up with my current monster garage band projects:
- L.E.E. (Low End Emulator)
- L.I.F.E.S.O.N. (Lerxtian Influenced Finger Emulator for Sonically Overdriven Noise) and form a robot band called... (wait for it...)
- R.U.S.H. (Robots Utilizing Slashdot-esque Heuristics)
Or maybe we could get Michael Gavon and Bevin Kendall to plug it into their massive distributed computer S.Y.R.I.N.X. (SYnergistic Resource for Information eXchange, picture an iPod the size of a planet) and play the entire catalog of Rush tunes..
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But enough of me... I have to get back to my lab. I'm currently working on the aerodynamics and harmonic pendula to cause laminar flow to make a windchime that plays YYZ.
StarGlider29a
"You have the right to remain silent...
Anything you say can and will be used in my next book
For those, who wonder that this is the high end of robotic technology, I must disappoint you. This is nothing more but an engineering project to put a bunch of pneumatic valves and map them to a computer. I am not flaming here, don't get me wrong, but to appreciate what they did, one needs to understand what REALLY happened.
Basically what they did, is they mapped physical instruments to what otherwise a sound card would have to generate. A soundcard usually has a set of instrument samples built into it so that it can play MIDI files (MIDI is an established interface to have music-related stuff talk to eatch other and understand music as data).(When a card does it, it's called wavetable synthesis.) People usually load the more advanced ones soundards which have this capability with better-sounding instrument samples and thus get the computer to help them sequence higher-quality music.
So what the project that those guys accomplishes is that now, you can map the "drum instrument" to a physical device instead of an "in-memory sound bank" that would get played through your PC sound system.
http://www.lemurbots.org/EmergencyBot.mov
Now there's a robotic drum player, and a little over a year ago I was part of a small engineering team that built an automatic harmonica player:
http://www.purplehippo.com/ed2/
All we need now is a piano playing robot, and we're good to go! Bring on the record contracts!
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