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DIY LED-Illuminated Sleep Chamber

Bulldozer2003 writes "'Finally something both nerdy AND sexy engineers can do.' It sounds like an oxymoron but this guy took a cue from The Vos Pad and decked out his own dorm room bed with Light Emitting Diodes. They're even fully adjustable 'allowing me to create every color of the rainbow.' Total cost, according to him in an email: 'Around $25, the LEDs cost me about $0.25 a piece in bulk, and the potentiometers cost about $6 a piece from digikey. I got the LM317 voltage regulators as a free sample from Texas Instruments. Lots of companies will ship you free samples, its a good deal for college students.'"

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  1. The LED Pimp Bed... by truesaer · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...guaranteed to be sex free, no doubt!

    1. Re:The LED Pimp Bed... by Muhammar · · Score: 2, Funny

      nah, he is probably gonna write a paper about adjustable LED spectrum influence on man performance. That's why he put there all these potentiometers.

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    2. Re:The LED Pimp Bed... by chrisbw · · Score: 2, Funny

      He's wearing sandals with socks... he's completely guaranteed to be sex-free!

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  2. It's simple... by hwoolery · · Score: 5, Funny

    Step 1: Light up dorm room with ludicrous light display.

    Step 2: ...

    Step 3: Women!

    1. Re:It's simple... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Step 2: Tell women about your groovy pot stash and invite them back to frob the big knob.

  3. Reminds me... by flatface · · Score: 5, Informative

    Reminds me a lot of this guy's projects. He made some damn cool things out of LEDs there, complete with howtos.

  4. What the guy is probably thinking.... by Neo-Rio-101 · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Why should I go to a club when I can stay at home, avoid long queues, drink cheaper alcohol, set up my own light show, and have the chance to choose your own music?"

    ummm.......

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    1. Re:What the guy is probably thinking.... by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Interesting

      actually, I did this in the theatre room in the basement for my daughter. spent less than $1000.00 and got enough club effects lights to make it look exactly like a dance club, espically with a xmms vis running on the 10 foot screen.

      It's great, the kids all want to come here, I know where she is and I know that there is no booze or other naughty things going on.

      (OMFG! I am opressing my daughters right to illegally drink, do drugs and have sex! I am so fricking evil!!)

      I remember being a teen, and if my parents made the basement cool at home I would have spent more time there instead of other people's parties.

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    2. Re:What the guy is probably thinking.... by lachlan76 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      OMFG! I am opressing my daughters right to illegally drink, do drugs and have sex! I am so fricking evil!!

      Sex and alcohol are just things that teenagers do naturally.....do you think that the hormones are made to be repressed? And yes, I intentionally skimmed over drugs, because I happen to agree with you there.

    3. Re:What the guy is probably thinking.... by Dr.+Evil · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I disagree about the immaturity and stupidity part. People forget what it was like to be a teenager. Teenagers do more living between 15 and 16 than most people do between 30 and 40... and I mean that.

      The biggest difference between teenagers and adults is that kids have nothing to live for. Yes, nothing. They have some vauge "future" people talk about, but they've always had that, they didn't have to earn it, and it's many times their current adult lifetimes away.

      Imagine if you had no money, no house, no reputation, no education, no kids, no spouse... nothing in your life which you've had to earn, nothing in your life which you'd be afraid to lose. Now multiply out your horomones, shrink your freedom to nearly zero... what little shelter, food and money you haev is entirely dependant upon the whims of your parents.

      Hiding from unreasonable parents becomes suddenly very important. Suddenly getting a condom or taking a pill becomes very dangerous to your immediate well being... well, for your forseeable future anyways (it's unreasonable to see past 5-10 times your adult life out to age 25 or so)

      Giving your kids a place to hang out is great, I think it is a HUGE help. Make sure that if you have multiple kids, you aren't going to create conflict if they don't like hanging out around one another, and as tough as it might be, you've got to accept that they will have sex down there... else they'll just go into the back seat of their friend's car, or to the drunken party down the street. Not supplying condoms down there is using the fear of pregnancy or disease to keep them absinent. That doesn't work.

    4. Re:What the guy is probably thinking.... by liquidsin · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Hey now, don't go putting words in my mouth. I never called anything bad. I just said that alcohol is technically a drug. I love "you people" who want to blindly follow the government's edicts that tobacco and alcohol are just fine (and heavily taxed) but marijuana is a terrible drug and the cause of many social ills. How can you say with a straight face that teenagers will be teenagers and it's natural to drink so that's ok, but "drugs" are bad? Most studies on the matter will show you that alcohol does more damage to the body, is more intoxicating, and more prone to addiction and abuse than marijuana and even many other illicit drugs. Personally I'd prefer that my kids trust me enough to talk to me about drugs and alcohol and sex so that they can get the REAL information they need rather than whatever bullshit their school chums feed them and they can make informed decisions on their own. Thankfully I have many years until I need to deal with that.

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  5. And we rate it... by cold+fjord · · Score: 2, Insightful


    Great for parties... wouldn't want to live there.

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  6. Obligatory Pun by nijk · · Score: 5, Funny

    So do you mean free as in speech, or free as in beer?

    1. Re:Obligatory Pun by eclectro · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So do you mean free as in speech, or free as in beer?

      The ladies see the bed and head for the freeway.

      Nothing spells NERD like a bunch of bright colored LEDs decorating your living space when it's not Christmas.

      Except maybe for that Linux pc in the corner.

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    2. Re:Obligatory Pun by Jaycatt · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Nothing spells NERD like a bunch of bright colored LEDs decorating your living space when it's not Christmas.

      I'm proud to be a huge nerd, then. I have a two-story house with an upstairs hallway that, when lit with all the lights on the switch, is bright enough to do surgery with. Sometimes, you want that kind of brightness, but not at 2am as you make your way to the stairs for a late night snack.

      So, rather than switch out the bulbs to lower wattages in the evening/morning, I hooked up about 6 strands of LED Christmas lights and ran them around the door/wall frames, set on a timer for dusk/dawn. Works great, and since the power consumption is so low, I leave them on all night, 365 days a year. Plus, it gives the hallway a very festive look year-round.

      They are just bright enough to see by in the dark, and they also run up and down the stairs, so you can see the steps and not trip.

      It was pretty tricky finding these strings of lights two years ago, but they're probably much easier to locate now.

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  7. HTTPS? by nick0909 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Are they trying to shoot themselves in the head by using HTTPS?

    1. Re:HTTPS? by Al+Dimond · · Score: 2, Interesting

      As a U of I student myself, I wonder the same thing. The whole "netfiles" WebDAV system (which replaced the good ol' unix accounts we used to have) is all https, even for webpages.

      This means that if you have image references on your webpages to external sites web browsers bitch about having some secure and some non-secure elements on a page, for one thing.

      But, in short, yes, we at the U of I are trying to shoot ourselves in the head with this, just as we're shooting ourselves in the head with our new web-based registration system that's not designed to handle half the number of students we have and makes getting permission to register for certain classes a lot more work for everyone involved.

    2. Re:HTTPS? by t_pet422 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      UIUC's Netfiles has a dedicated SSL accelerator box that sits between it and the world, limiting the impact of SSL's overhead. You can lock down files and directories on Netfiles to specific people, so requiring SSL means that you'll never transmit your active directory password insecurely. It's a good thing, really. FWIW, I'm staff at UIUC.

  8. It sounds like an oxymoron... by sexysciencegirl · · Score: 4, Funny

    and it still is, take my word as a girl for it :-)

    1. Re:It sounds like an oxymoron... by JaJ_D · · Score: 4, Funny

      errr what? "Sexy engineer" or " sexysciencegirl " :-]

      with tongue firmly in cheek
      Jaj

  9. [OT] Security Info warning!!! by advocate_one · · Score: 3, Funny
    got this for that guy's page...
    This page contains both secure and nonsecure items

    Do you want to display the nonsecure items

    Clicking on no has no major effect that I can discern except for the guy's last box where the "Get Firefox!" icon/image is missing...

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  10. Step 2 by Polarism · · Score: 5, Funny

    Plastic Surgery!

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    1. Re:Step 2 by blixel · · Score: 2, Funny

      Plastic Surgery!

      Something I wrote a couple of years back.

      To the tune of Blurry by Puddle of Mudd.

      (Still a work in progress)

      My wife is mostly plastic
      everything's so fake
      Her tits are full of saline
      now they are in perfect place
      Filled her lips with fat
      They sucked out of her thighs
      Her teeth were stained and yellow
      but now they are pure white

      If only I had said no
      to plastic surgery
      I would still be with you
      and you'd still be with me
      I use to be your world
      I use to be your man
      But now I'm just this guy
      who pays for all your tans

      Chorus:
      I paid for everything
      But you left me anyway
      You slapped me in the face
      You sprayed me with some mace
      I paid for everything
      But you left me anyway
      You slapped me in the face

      Everything has changed now
      There's nothing left that's you
      You wear a ton of makeup and
      clothes that are see through
      It wasn't always this way
      You use to be a troll
      But now all men adore you
      And want to tag your hole

      But I know all about you
      I know who you are
      You're just a gutter rat
      who grew up in the park
      You're just a dirty tramp now
      using guys for cash
      I hope someone rapes you
      so I can have a laugh.

  11. Re:"sexy engineer" (with working link) by JaJ_D · · Score: 4, Informative

    the link wasn't working so I'll try again!

    Pot signing out

    Jaj

  12. Re:Electric bill? by Gordonjcp · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Practically nothing. The whole thing probably draws less power than one low-energy lightbulb.

  13. Re:Electric bill? -- Burnin' down the house by shepd · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you look at the pics, he mounted all the LED's through cardboard with the wires soldered to the back.

    If doing that burns down the dorm room he needs to take a course in EE! :-D

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  14. Haiku by Ligur · · Score: 5, Funny

    Man who lights his bed
    with a multicoloured led
    will never get head

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    1. Re:Haiku by DJCF · · Score: 4, Informative
      Ok, no way is that a haiku.


      1. A Japanese lyric verse form having three unrhymed lines of five, seven, and five syllables, traditionally invoking an aspect of nature or the seasons.

      2. A poem written in this form.
    2. Re:Haiku by tod_miller · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Enlighten my bed tonight,
      Yet I sleep alone,
      'Cause no girls for me, a geek.

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    3. Re:Haiku by wsanders · · Score: 2, Funny

      Buy colorful LEDs.
      Babes waiting in lines, maybe.
      HTTPS?!?

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    4. Re:Haiku by Caraig · · Score: 2, Funny

      Try this, then....

      His bed cast in light
      Fall leaves are LEDs
      No risk of VD

      --
      "I am an Adept of Tantric VAX."
  15. Let me see if I got this right.... by Vladan · · Score: 3, Funny

    So this light display -- it's like a warning beacon of sorts, right? A light house, if you will, to warn the woman that the sexy guy she met at the club is an engineer and it's time to start preparing her excuses and leave, lest she crash against the inexperienced rock of his virginity.

  16. Samples by vectra14 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The fact that the writeup included the bit about samples is really kinda dumb. Moderation is key. Samples are great but if every idiot starts sampling everything (which i'm sure will be a side effect of the present article) companies will stop sampling or make it more difficult.

    in general, the state of slashdot is shameful these days. i dont have a solution (aside from simple obvious things like submission moderation, etc)... maybe i've just changed enough that it isnt the place for me anymore. which is a shame. cause from my POV slashdot aspires to be about Cool Things. the latest microsoft bug isnt a cool thing. it isnt news. (to adapt what John Stewart said about a transmission from Hussein).

    and all of this Geek Nerd etc shit. I think the US population is nuts about trying to group people (including themselves!) into groups of like scales. I havent seen anything like it anywhere else (i live in US and have lived in other places).

    anyway what was i gonna say? oh yeah:
    to anyone who reads it - if you sample, please, PLEASE sample in moderation so that people that actually build prototypes and such (like *this) continue to have this wonderful resourse availible.

    1. Re:Samples by Lisandro · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually, most semiconductor companies are very liberal when it comes to sampling. TI, for once, ships three samples of almost anything on their catalog, to anywhere over the world, as long as you fill some personal info and state what are you intending to do with the devices (or atleast they used to). They once shipped me a very high quality opamp IC that i turned into a beautiful headphone amp. I can't recall the price, but it's surely wasn't cheap, if not unavaiable.
      Maxim does the same, and i got from them a couple of LCD display drivers that would've costed me a sum here in South America.

      Of course, they don't want the service to be abused. But for them it's a neat way to do advertising amongst designers (i sure regard both companies better after that) for cheap. Anwyay, 90% has no use for electronic parts anyway, it's not like it's free T-shirts.

    2. Re:Samples by Ghostgate · · Score: 3, Funny

      Samples are great but if every idiot starts sampling everything

      Every idiot already does. I mean, just listen to the radio. ;)

    3. Re:Samples by eclectro · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I agree. It's being pretty cheap sampling LM317s when you can get them anywhere, unlike exotic new parts.

      But maybe that's why he got them. They are cheap enough to throw a couple to a college student, and TI gets good publicity from it.

      I have had mixed luck getting samples in the past telling companies I was a college student. Sometimes I got them, sometimes not. Most companies at the time wanted to know how many thousands you were going to buy. Not if you were doing a college project. My friends had similar experiences. But this was twenty years ago. Things are different now with the internets.

      Now I much rather prototype with off the shelf, because that means most likely that the part is widely available and you won't have problems getting production quantities.

      It started with PIC (and Dallas) making things easier by selling onesy twosy to anybody.

      It paid off by their chips gaining wide popularity.

      I also think that is what lead to thicker digi-key catalogs. I remember when they were pamphlets.

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  17. Re:with all those lights... by Bitsy+Boffin · · Score: 4, Funny
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  18. agh by miseryinmotion · · Score: 5, Funny

    I bet his roomate absolutely hates him

    1. Re:agh by JayTeeUK · · Score: 5, Funny

      Not as much as his University's network administrators:

      "Forbidden
      Available bandwidth quota for this filesystem has been exceeded.
      (/bkpeters/www/LEDBed/index.html)

      Please, try again later."
      --
      James Tait, Programmer and Free Software Advocate
      JID: jayteeuk@wyrddreams.org
  19. How long do LEDs last? by falzer · · Score: 5, Funny

    25$ for 50,000 hours worth of birth control. What a bargain!

  20. what a dork by Britz · · Score: 4, Funny

    what a dork:
    https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/bkpeters/www/Prom /imagep ages/image1.html
    what a girl:
    https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/bkpeters/www/Prom /imagep ages/image11.html
    what a dork?
    https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/bkpeters/www/Prom /imagep ages/image4.html

  21. Re:Electric bill? by Lisandro · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Very little. LEDs are very efficient power-wise and suck relatively little current; normal LEDs light at maximum with about 10-15mA, after that
    they burn out pretty quickly.

    The power depends on the voltage, but, say, if you use a 12v power supply and light a 100 of those you'd be using just a tad under 20 watts. That's less than a cheap bulb, and trust me, it would light just a bit brighter ;)

    As a matter of fact, LEDs are quite a neat lighting solution; they're cheap, awfully efficient and have a long working life. The thing is that, atleast until recently, clear light LEDs were unavaiable. Those are hard to make, and even then, white light LEDs are not very pure, color wise. Flashlights are beggining to carry LED diodes, for one.

  22. Re:Electric bill? by spdt · · Score: 5, Informative

    Most LEDs operate at a relatively low current (~20mA) and voltage (~3V). This amounts to maybe .06 Watts (60mW) per LED. It looks like he has 5 panels of 4 LEDs and a 6-LED reading lamp, from the pictures; this makes 26 LEDs, consuming around 1.5 Watts in total. This is 1/40th of the power consumption of a single 60-Watt light bulb. If we say that electricity costs $.06/kWh ("US Federal Average"), then it would cost approximately $.09 to run these lights for 1000 hours.

    The kinds of LEDs will probably have different operating characteristics than those I have in my head (like those UV LEDs, which are higher frequency -and energy- than I'm used to).

    Whatever it is, it will not exceed the power output of the wall wart he's using.

  23. Not true by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    EE Projects got me laid by some pretty damn hot chicks more than a few times - Especially if you offer to "pimp" their room with something cool for fun ;-) ...and no, it's not paying - I would have done it regardless. It's fun to add a vent that'll allow smoking, and put set-up projectors just to play Super Smash Bros on N64 (another chick magnet). Me and my roommate had our dorm on lockdown from day one! Me-Fi-Me!

    1. Re:Not true by DJ_Goldfingerz · · Score: 2, Funny

      That's right, keep yourself locked up in a your room with your roommate and smoking that dope.

      Only thing is, knowing you're locked up in a room with your roommate, should indicate to you that he isn't some pretty damn hot chicks.

  24. It'll never work by ogma · · Score: 2

    'Finally something both nerdy AND sexy engineers can do.'

    There may be plenty of nerdy engineers out there, but everybody knows there's no such thing as a sexy one...

  25. Re:Electric bill? by Gordonjcp · · Score: 2, Interesting
    The big problem is, they throw a narrow beam of light. If you cluster them around in a big sphere, you get a very funky pattern, but it's still spotty and takes as much power as an ordinary low-energy bulb.


    Of course, as we all know, "low energy" compact fluorescents are a waste of time *anyway*, because their power factor is so awful that twice as much energy again must be dissipated at the substation to compensate...

  26. what the hell has /. become by DJCF · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Ok, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna post a "what the hell is this place comming too" post. Jesus, here's some guy who has done a rather awesome thing. Can we please just admire it for what it is without all the name calling? Jesus the tagline is "news for NERDS" - basicly everyone here so can we just stop it with the cheapshots and one-liners? And please, no more smart areses talking about getting laid. With that attitude you never will.

    For those who were seriously interested in this project can I refer you to the link a fellow poster posted: it s more interesting.

  27. Re:Electric bill? by CitizenJohnJohn · · Score: 2, Funny

    Would those even be light-emitting LED diodes?

  28. Re:Electric bill? by Hognoxious · · Score: 3, Informative
    The big problem is, they throw a narrow beam of light.
    There's these things called lenses that can affect the width of a beam, and some other things called diffusers that you can use to, well, diffuse the light. Oh, and there's reflectors too.
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  29. not my cup of tea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Sex by any kind of electric light just does not work for me. Gotta be candles, I'm afraid.

  30. Not bad but... by Len+Budney · · Score: 5, Informative

    Interesting! This guy's project basically connects a dimmer switch each to red, green and blue LED strings. The colors sorta mix, sorta producing colored light, but as you can see in his pictures there are major fringing effects (multicolored bands of light). The howto on this page, suggested by another poster, gives a much cleaner result.

    The link above uses a microcontroller and pulse-width modulation to vary each color's intensity, producing a much more even color effect.

    Now, of course, I want to redo the apartment with them. Eternal lighting with no more power consumption than a couple of flashlights...yum...

    1. Re:Not bad but... by Bishop · · Score: 3, Informative

      For LED control pulse width modulation is the proper way to do it. A dimmer switch is a poor hack, as LEDs are really only on or off. There is very little in between.

      You can also make a quick adjustable PWM controller with a 555, a potentiometer, and a comparator like an LM111. (and a few caps, and other resistors) Hook up a 555 in ocsilator mode. Aim for a frequency faster then 120Hz. I would start with 1kHz and see what it looked like. That might be too fast for the LEDs to properly turn off. Connect one input of the comparator to the RC circuit on the 555. Connect the other imput to the sweeper pin on the pot. Connect the pot between Vcc and ground. Adjusting the pot will change the duty cycle of the comparator output from 0% to 100%. You could drive the leds directly from the comparator, but it is better to use a bjt or fet.

      Obviously there is some fine tunning that you can do, but that is the general idea.

      This circuit is nice because you only need one 555 which can drive many comparators. You only need one pot and comparator per colour of led. The microcontroller is nice because you can preprogram a number of pleasing colours, as well as automatically sweep throught those colours.

    2. Re:Not bad but... by kzinti · · Score: 2, Informative

      Just what I was thinking, dude, but you shouldn't need the external comparator. Look at this page: http://www.williamson-labs.com/555-circuits.htm, in particular the astable configuration with the diode across R2 to get a more variable duty cycle. Do that, but instead of separate R1 and R2, use a linear pot. Hook pin 7 up the pot center tap. The RC frequency stays constant, but by twisting the pot, you vary the duty cycle from low to high.

  31. LEDs for Barbie house? by rduke15 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    My daughter wants lights in her Barbie house (seriously!), and I thought it should probably be easy with these newer bright LEDs and a battery, but I really know nothing about this.

    Wouldn't have thougt of asking /. about that, but since the topic came up...

    Anyway, I'd rather find the solution than send my daughter asking that guy for advice... :-)

    Can I directly connect these to a battery, or do I need some circuit in-between?

    Which sort of LED is it that I want? I mean, how do I recognise and select the right type in a catalogue? Or what more specific keyword do I add to "LED" to find relevant information on Google?

    1. Re:LEDs for Barbie house? by sifi · · Score: 4, Informative

      You can use any sort of LED you like - It basically comes down to:
      a) The colour you want.
      b) How bright you want it.
      c) How big you want it.

      You shouldn't connect LED's straight to a battery.

      You need a series resistor (In between the battery and the LED). The value of the resistor is calculated using

      R = (Vb-Vf)/I.

      Vb = Battery Voltage
      Vf = Forward Voltage (On Data Sheet)
      I = Current (On Data Sheet)

      so for this 5mm white LED using a 9V battery Vf = 3.6, I = 30mA => R = 180 Ohms.

      Make sure that you connect the LED the correct way round (The long lead should be connected to the '+' terminal on the battery, the short lead to one end of the resistor and the other end of the resistor to the '-' terminal on the battery. If you get it the wrong way round it don't worry the LED won't blow up, the LED just won't work!

      Good Luck.

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    2. Re:LEDs for Barbie house? by ajs318 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Don't use batteries, they pollute the environment something shocking. Use a mains adaptor instead, possibly even an old phone recharger or similar. Note that the voltage ratings quoted on the label are only for show and don't reflect what your trusty AVO will indicate.

      Measure the output voltage, subtract the forward voltage of the LEDs {add together if wiring several in series} to get the "excess" voltage {guess 2V if you don't know it, 3V for blue or white diodes} to find out the excess voltage.

      Select a suitable resistor to give about 20mA of current, it is not critical that this be spot on or anything, using the formula R = V / I -- where V is the excess voltage that needs to be dropped, I = 0.02 {because we said 20 milliamps but the formula wants whole amps} and R will be in ohms. Now resistors are made only in certain values, usually multiples of 10, 12, 15, 18, 22, 27, 33, 39, 47, 56, 68 and 82, so choose the nearest; eg. if your power supply is putting out 4.9V and your LED wants 2V, you have to drop 2.9V at 0.02A so R = 2.9 / 0.02 = 290 / 2 = 145, so use a 150 ohm resistor.

      Finally, work out the power rating required, by multiplying the voltage dropped across the resistor by the current through it. In this case, P = 2.9 * 0.02 = 0.058 watts, so a 0.25W resistor will do fine.

      Each room will need a separate switch and resistor, but if you have the volts available you can put multiple LEDs in series from the same switch. Watch the current consumption doesn't exceed the power supply rating: as you get close to it, the voltage will start to fall and the LEDs will get dim. But power supplies of this kind must be short-circuit-safe by law, so you won't burn your house down even if you do actually overload it.

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    3. Re:LEDs for Barbie house? by B1ackDragon · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'm rather suprised nobody has said anything here yet.

      Basically you just need to put a resistor in series with the LED and battery, to keep the LED from burning out. LED's are a type of diode, which means that one side of the LED must be connected to negative, and one to positive or the current just won't flow.

      To find out the resistor value you need, you can use the formula descibed on this Diyaudio page. It also has some info for using multiple LED's in serial. If you have any more questions just leave a reply - I'm no electrical engineer but the Doll house lights thing isn't too big a deal, particularly considering the amount of enjoyment your daughter will get from such a simple hack!

      Oh by the way, your local radio shack (if you have those) sells LED's and resistors individually, the forward voltage referred to on the diyaudio page will be listed on the back of the package.

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  32. Re:Electric bill? by flatface · · Score: 2, Funny

    >Would those even be light-emitting LED diodes?

    Light-emiutting light emitting diode diodes? Yes they affirmatively would not wouldn't be.

  33. speaking of LEDs - how to replace light bulbs with by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    anyone knows any good resources, how to switch your household as much as possible away from classical lightbulbs to LEDs and other energy saving illumination methods?

    any good pointers, resources, experiences?

    thanks.

  34. Re:what the hell has /. become by eclectro · · Score: 3, Funny

    And please, no more smart areses talking about getting laid. With that attitude you never will

    Dude, this story was posted at 2:39 am.

    Need I state the obvious for you???

    If we are reading slashdot at 3:00 a.m. in the morning, there is a rather (extremely) high likelyhood that readers here do not have the company of a female.

    Unless it's a mother telling us to turn out the lights.

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  35. Re:Electric bill? by kazoosandinstruments · · Score: 2, Funny

    Light-emiutting light emitting diode diodes?

    Almost like aitch-tee-tee-pee-colon-slash-slash-slash-dot-dot- org ?

  36. And the score is... by pylonz · · Score: 5, Funny

    8 points for creativity 10 points for lustful intentions 1 point for soldering

  37. Re:what the hell has /. become by adamh · · Score: 2, Insightful
    "Dude".

    Welcome to the world, we have many timezones from GMT-12 to GMT+12. You probably live in the GMT+5 to GMT+8 zone. You may be surprised to discover that more live outside of your zone than live in it.

    (Swap GMT for UTC if you think Greenwich is in Connecticut)

    ;-)
  38. The Vos Pad by maiku · · Score: 2, Funny

    I don't think I could live there. It'd freak me out, like Kramer in the Kenny Rogers Roasters episode.

  39. correction. by Pandora's+Vox · · Score: 4, Funny

    *looks at linux server in one corner*

    *looks at linux laptop as recently reviewed on slashdot*

    *looks at LED star canopy over bed*

    most girls would run from such things. some have their own, thankyouverymuch :-)

    -Leigh

    ps. Ubuntu is love.

  40. Re:what the hell has /. become by cosmol · · Score: 2

    I totally agree, its sad really. I think the moment I realized this was when I read the comments on the ipod halloween costume story. What a bunch of assholes!

  41. Nothing says romance... by amgrau75 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Nothing says romance like LED lights and an extra-long twin bed.

  42. CF power factor by name_already_taken · · Score: 2, Informative
    You work for an incandescent light bulb company, don't you?

    Several manufacturers are now making high power factor compact fluorescents (power factor >0.9).

    I agree that LED lighting may not be terribly efficient and there will have to be some clever work with diffusing the light but its saving grace is that the lamps will last a very long time and the lamp packages can be made very flat which will allow some interesting design changes in products which use lights (like motor vehicles for example). Applications like street lighting and traffic signals and other public space lighting are probably ideal for LED retrofit; even if the lamps cost a lot more the savings in not having to replace them anywhere near as often will pay off quickly.

    The problem of getting the illumination pattern even will be solved quickly. Take apart an LCD monitor. Who would believe that that thin cold cathode lamp could illuminate an entire screen so easily? Someone will solve the problem even if you can't see how.

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  43. Re:Electric bill? by Phreakiture · · Score: 2, Informative

    Of course, as we all know, "low energy" compact fluorescents are a waste of time *anyway*, because their power factor is so awful that twice as much energy again must be dissipated at the substation to compensate...

    1. Even if you count VA instead of watts, a compact fluorescent bulb still draws half the VA of an incandescent bulb.

    2. If that's not good enough for you, high power factor compact fluorescent bulbs are available.

    3. You probably pay for Watts, not VA. Your electric meter will not charge you for reactive power.

    4. If 3 is not the case in your case, you can install a power factor corrector. An active one would be preferable, but a passive one should get you some improvement.

    5. There should be power factor correction at the substation, assuming that there isn't some somewhere along the line. I can point out several locations in my neighbourhood where there are power factor correctors on the poles.

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  44. Re:speaking of LEDs - how to replace light bulbs w by ajs318 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have three filament bulbs in my home -- that's including one in the fridge and one in the sewing machine. {No light in the oven. I was thinking to fix a gas mantle on a wire so that it could be lowered into or out of the burner to provide a light; but I changed my mind when I found out what was in them. Besides which, haven't you ever heard of baking blind? :) } The third one is in my bedside lamp; it's on a turn-for-off dimmer switch {thus precluding any kind of fluorescent} and so tends to last about five years at a stretch. This is only ever on for short periods like long enough to get out of bed and put the main light on, or perhaps an hour of reading. Everything else is lit by compact fluorescents {with a standard push-and-twist base fitting like any ordinary light bulb; note that the cheaper ones are only double-folded and so longer than the more expensive triple-folded ones} except the loft, which is lit by "ordinary" fluorescent strip lights. {Unfortunately they're low power factor types, but just require some additional capacitors to correct this. Anyway, the main issue with low power factor is voltage drop in the cable, and I happen to know there's less than 10 metres of 1.0mm2 copper T&E cable from the fusebox to the luminaire in this case.}

    If you're retrofitting, compact fluorescents are the obvious way of doing it. If you're wiring from scratch, it might be worth using small fluorescent striplights. Avoid halogen lights at any cost -- they're still filament bulbs. It may be worth arranging rooms so as to take advantage of natural daylight as far as possible. I guess I'm lucky living in a Victorian two-up-two-down, since this would have been designed with the sun as the primary illumination source. Judging by the evidence I've seen, the building was first wired for electricity sometime early last century {definitely before WWII} and completely re-wired about 25 years ago.

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  45. Check out the LED lights at Fry's by cyrus007 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Better still, Fry's has Christmas lights made of LEDs going for $9.99 for a box of 50/100, I don't remeber exactly. It has different colors but a constant illumination. Maybe you can just work on it to make interesting things and would be more safe also, and they also provide some warranty too.

  46. Forbidden by Mr.+No+Skills · · Score: 2

    Sure would like to read it:

    Forbidden

    Available bandwidth quota for this filesystem has been exceeded.
    (/bkpeters/www/LEDBed/index.html)

    Please, try again later.

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  47. Re:what, who, how? by msim · · Score: 2, Informative

    And if you look at the pics at this link you can read something written in his girlfriends yearbook, and if you look *REALLY* carefully you can see her name is Michelle, AND you can find out the email address of her friend.

    *sits back and watches the geek frenzy*

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  48. Nice shoes by klugerama · · Score: 2, Funny

    You can tell by the fact that he wears socks with sandals that he's not trying very hard to hide his geekosity with fashion.