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Stable Linux Kernel 2.6.10 Released
An anonymous reader writes "Offering it as 'something to play with over the holidays,' Linus Torvalds released the official 2.6.10 Linux kernel, which he named the 'Woozy Numbat.' KernelTrap offers the full details, noting that there have been minimal changes since the last release candidate, 2.6.10-rc3. Linus commented that with 2.6.10 released, now he could 'get into the
Glögg for real' (a hot mulled wine with spices, red wine, port and brandy). As always, the latest Linux kernel can be downloaded from a kernel.org mirror." (Here are some recipes, too.)
Remember to put a piece of metal silverware into each of of your glasses before you pour your glögg in. If you forget, they'll all crack from the sudden heat.
And don't forget to rerun lilo afterwards. ; )
Friends don't let friends "make menuconfig" drunk.
Somewhat OT but Glogg, or Mulled Wine, is absolutely wonderful at the holidays. I generally make about 40 bottles of it and give it out as gifts. It's very well recieved people love it as a gift (as a rule, store 2-3 extra bottles in the car when you visit a party, you can never be sure who will show up). It also warms you up wonderfully when you come back from caroling or sleigh riding with the little ones.
A major component of Glogg is Aquavit, this year I had two extra bottles of Aquavit left over, one bottle got spiced with apples & cinnamon, the other, whole Pomogrante seeds and slices of orange. Both are absolutely fabulous. After letting them mull for a few weeks freeze them inside a block of ice, the ice will freeze around the bottle and but the Aquavit will stay liquid and freezing cold all through your holiday party.
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Merry XMas to all!!! :)
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...that I _JUST_ installed 2.6.9 yesterday. I never learn, if I decide to upgrade kernels, I should do it RIGHT after it's released. Who cares it may nuke my system, at least I won't have to recompile it 24 hours later. *grin*
Mmmm, glögg is the stuff dreams are made of. Loaded with sugar and spices. The alcohol free version is very good, and excellent at warming you up, as you're sitting around a bonfire in the sub arctic winter night (I was born and raised in northern Sweden). The alcohol version is more fun! And yes, glögg is reminiscent of glühwein.
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Don't forget to compile in the designated driver.
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From all in Australia, hope you have a safe and happy XMAS, to you and your families!!! :)
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You have been drinking too much glogg. Way too much.
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Well, this just goes to show Linux isn't 100% perfect: Even with all the great programs for Linux, even Linus sometimes needs to use WINE for something. :) /ducks fanboys and humorless mods
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. . . .not now mom i am compiling my kernel . . . .
lucky me, since i do it the debian way i will be done before they finish the stocking stuffers. . .
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Yes Jesus was born in the spring or early summer.
In the time of Jesus it wasn't exactly kosher to be Christian. Christmas was celebrated very early on in December under the cover of other holidays, some Pagan some I forget the details of. The tradition stuck. It was made official in 336AD when the pope decreed christmas was to be celebrated on 12/25 to offset a pagan holiday.
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The Christian holidays were moved around by one of the Roman emperors so that Christian holidays would coincide with the traditional pagan holidays. The idea was to get the pagans to convert to Christianity. Christmas, for example, was changed so that it would coincide with the Winter Solstice.
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Well, we get a new version of the GIMP, and now a new version of Linux! I'm very pleased. I hope that 2.6.10 does multitasking a little better. I've found that 2.6.9 gives a few too many CPU cycles to demanding processes (thereby slowing down the mouse cursor and music and other stuff that I wish wouldn't be affected by something like compiling a program). Anybody else have such experiences? lasindi
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After releasing 2.6.10 what next? new kernel series 2.7.x ? when kernel team going to abondoned 2.4.x series ? cheers
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Exactly. It was all marketing to compete with the celebration of Winter Solstice.
Remember, Religion is a business. It sells hope.
Just chiming in to say 2.6.10 works fine on my amd64 box [using tulip network, alsa/cmpci sound, nvidia video, reiserfs disk, have most I2C/I2O turned on, using NFS for network shares, etc...]. ;-)
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It hasn't changed enough to matter.
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For those who don't know (I didn't until recently, and was doing everything manually), when you do "make install", make copies the bzImage into /boot/vmlinuz-VER-EXTRAVER, System.map into /boot/System.map-VER-EXTRAVER, and.config into /boot/config-VER-EXTRAVER.
/boot/vmlinuz-VER-EXTRAVER to /boot/vmlinuz), it also takes the old symlinks and renames them to, for example, /boot/vmlinuz.old.
/boot/vmlinuz kernel symlink, and an image pointing to the /boot/vmlinuz.old kernel symlink, in case the newly installed kernel doesn't work.
THEN, it manages symlinks, pointing each respective base name to its newly copied version (IE,
This way, I only have 2 linux-related grub images: an image pointing to the
I think he had already hit the GlÃgg pretty good when they named this one.
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It's a good thing I wasn't busy. The turkey can marinate for another 24 hours, should do it good.
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(merry fucking whatever, everyone!)
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And while your running it, im lazily waiting on the Fedora guys so i can apt-get it.
Of course it is signed.
PGP sig for the patch
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and on the twelfth day of Christmas, Linus left for me... an upgrade for linux-2.60.10-rc3
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The pagan (to who?) holiday that was assimilated was Saturnalia/the winter solstice. See this article on saturnalia at wikipedia and this other article about christmas from same for more info on those.
FreeBSD for the impatient.
If you look at the size of the 2.6 changelogs: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/
They get larger every release. What gives?
It is very impolite to mix up Norwegians and Swedes, however crossbreeding is a whole nudder story.
The whole point of serving Glogg to non-scans is to prepare them for the Lutefisk and Gamleost.
A Shadeless room is a brighter room.
Yes Jesus was born in the spring or early summer.
The reason why this is assumed is that the Gospels mention the shepards being in the fields with their flocks. This would have happened during the lambing season, which is the *tada* spring or early summer.
Oh, and he probably wasn't born in 1 BC. The best argument I've seen calls for a birthdate in about 6 BC, due to astronomical events, but even the 6 BC birthdate has to assume that a certain astronomical event (Halley's Comet) was the Star of Bethelhem, and it would contradict the chronology in the book of Luke.
Also, the date of Jesus's birth wasn't standardized for a few centuries and different groups of Christians used different dates for quite awhile.
I've been far too lazy to check up on this. Was the stuff broke in 2.6.8 related to cd-recording fixed (you could only write as root, no matter what your perms were)?
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In the time of Jesus it wasn't exactly kosher to be Christian.
Um, Mr. Mod? Just what exactly drinking when you bumped this as "informative?"
You can download just the patch to go from 2.6.9 to 2.6.10, y'know. On dialup that'll save you a lot of time, and that'll save Kernel.org some bandwidth (not that they are short on that).
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five spambot virii,
four porno graphics,
three smiley faces
two free-after-rebate sweaters,
an anti-spam robot
and an update to the source tree
Think about it; From that day on, the days get longer. How cool is that, for us northen types, at least?
"A language that doesn't affect the way you think about programming, is not worth knowing" - Alan Perlis
"GlÃgg" is of course "Glögg" in UTF-8 viewed as ISO-8859-1. It cracks me up to see how unable the Linux community (and Slashdot) is to cope with anything but ASCII and its immediate extensions.
What's a few months and taking over a holiday from Mithras when the date is shifted a few years. Mary's virginity didn't even seem to be important enough to mention for a few hundred years until the temple of Isis in Rome became a church and it's followers became Christian. Accept it folks, it's well and truly a Roman tradition. The message is more important than the date and bits of the bible we ignore like prohibitions against pork and shellfish (pork is very much part of the roman tradition).
Yeah, why did the post say "minimal changes?"
I find this to be one of the bigger leaps in 2.6, at least in that a new direction is coming out (let's excuse 2.6.6->.8 which had some disruptive/big changes we all know about). They're cleaning out deprecated driver code and making things more abstract, and also finally PCMCIA is split into its relevant sub-drivers (you'll know if you configure it; but note that your old config will NOT include PCMCIA when you just copy it over). I think this is a good step forward.
Another big change is that -march=pentium[234] is no longer used, but -march=i686 with -mtune (however I did NOT see mtune in action while building, so there might be an oops). This is because of gcc's bugs actually, but I like it more this way for other reasons.
I have now taken to building one kernel for two machines as I used to, in my BSD way, so as to save maintainance and re-emering sources all the time. Build once, install everywhere.
This is a good release, I like seeing that Linux 2.6 is finally going somewhere good. Now let's see some attempts at security and supporting all the ports, not just the fun ones.
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why did the post say "minimal changes?"
He said "minimal changes since the last release candidate, 2.6.10-rc3." And if Linus actually practiced SANE release management, there would be ZERO changes between the final RC and the real release.
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Even that has quite a few changes... but yes, why call it a 'release candidate' if it has no chance of being the release? It's like having presidential candidates just advertise guys who could become the president.
I think Linux should use a CVS system like the BSDs, so you can keep a real-time track of the source tree and do away with the need for point releases every few weeks or so. Notice that the BSDs release a couple of times a year, but with CVS[up] they stay updated. And in the -stable branches they actually [gasp] make sure things work before committing them!
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Du behöver fixa hemsidan. ;-) God Jul, förresten! Är du hem nånting?
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GlÃgg for real' (a hot mulled wine with spices, red wine, port and brandy)
Yup, also known as Gluehwein (Germany) and Gloeg (Sweden). Red wine yes. (Many) Spices? Yes. Hot? Yup. Port? I don't think Portwine is part of the recipe... neither is Brandy for that matter. (The real question is errm... WHY... and... ugh that would taste odd). Anyways, good stuff though.
...And Yule. (Think Northern lands). Easter "just happens" to coincide with the Ostara's Day (notice any similarity in naming ;-)). Intersting that although in Germanic countries "Ostara's Day" became Easter through the wonders of sword-and-commerce conquests, the name for Easter in Romance countries such as Italy is derived from a bastardisation on the hebrew word for passover.
;-D.
Btw, all those cutesy things like Easter Eggs, Easter Bunny, Christmas (really Yule) Tree, carolling and getting completely *cough* soused are all really european pagan things and have nothing to do with Christianity per-se. Nice to know that I can still celebrate Christmas and Easter while being pagan, since I'm REALLY celebrating Yule and Ostara's day. Heheh. I digress.
Merry whatever
Well said.
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Not that I've got anything against Jesus (actually he seemed like a bloody good bloke.. it's just a shame about his latter day followers) but this is why I will only refer to the midwinter festivities as Xmas - that way "X" can represent the reason of your choice
Actually if you take anything more than a casual look at Christian festival days you'll find they've simply usurped an existing festival. Anyone for the godess Oestre and her symbol of fertility the hare (one of the few animals that can conceive again whilst pregnant) ? Ooh look that'll be Easter in the Christianised version with the poor old hare being made into a cutesy pie rabbit.
Remember the motto: "Where the Roman war machine failed, the Church followed".
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If you couldn't with 2.6.9, 2.6.9 won't be any better... logic, boy, logic.
ACPI should work anywhere that conforms (BIOSes earlier than 2000 usually have problems though), what kind of problems do you have? nForce2 has been supported for almost as long as it's existed. Throttle depends on processor, but I saw an nForce-specific driver there too. Temperature if it's available.
Just try it. It's a good release, rare in 2.6 so far, and should support all you've described... except MAYBE DRI (not just 3D acceleration) for the Radeon. Unless it's backwards compatible with the 9200, which I hear is the latest of the supported-in-tree cards. Google it.
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Anise seed is in real absinthe and in Pernod which gives it its (IMO nasty) licorice flavor. You wouldn't substitute anise for wormwood; wormwood is horribly bitter, whereas anise is horribly licorice-y. Also, BTW, the once ubiquitous ban on absinthe production has been lifted in most European countries. In addition, due to the way in which thujone (the psychoactive present in wormwood) is regulated by the FDA not as a drug but as a food additive, you can legally import absinthe (but not sell it) in the U.S., from places like this.
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He clearly means in the general time, as in anywhere from Jesus to 100 years or so after his death. He doesn't mean in the time of Jesus' birth.
Glögg not "GlÃgg". And btw, its very good tasting :P
He does, it's called BitKeeper.
You can download the current 2.6 kernel with:
bk clone bk://linux.bkbits.net/linux-2.5
However, some people refuse to use it because it's not Free Software and has some licencing issues.
Also, Linus decided to go ahead without the previous two tree system. So, until there is any major changes requiring the split, 2.6 will be both the stable and development tree.
So, you still need point in time releases, both for users and to developers who don't want to use BitKeeper.
I wish I had points to mod this up. Most religions start with very noble, well-meaning ideals, thought up by very compassionate and well-meaning people.
But as soon as you put the "organized" into "organized religion"--i.e. as soon as there are positions of authority for people to follow--power-hungry people get involved twist the religion for their own purposes.
I update Gentoo with "nice -n 19 emerge --update whatever" at a very low priority
/etc/make.conf, and you won't have to type out the nice command--Portage will take care of it for you.
You can stick a PORTAGE_NICENESS variable into your
I use PORTAGE_NICENESS="10" and everything else works fine while compiling.
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I also noticed they promote downloading it through mirrors. EVERONE knows mirrors are bad security (especially mirrors with numeric ip addresses! http://blogs.msdn.com/ptorr/archive/2004/12/20/327 511.aspx :P
ACPI has been unusable on many laptops (no suspend or faulty suspend on Sony, ASUS, and many others) with kernel versions below 2.6.9. I heard that a lot of work has been done on ACPI recently and that some big patches were going to be integrated.
So, does ACPI work better in 2.6.10?
"Glogg is a traditional drink of the Swedish & Finnish Advent season" ehh.. we use it in Norway to.. And Norway is not in Sweden :)
Actually, the X in "Xmas" can stand for a Greek chi, which is also the first letter of the Greek version of Christ. [1]
Hmm, considering my plans, if anyone sees my heathen self tonight wallowing in booze, please tilt my head to the side so I don't choke on my own vomit. I'll be the only guy in Providence with an NTK t-shirt on. Leave your slashdot nick written on my forehead with a sharpie so I know who to mod-up in the future.
Thanks in advance!
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Sorry pal, according to the documentation, the 9200 has FULL 3D support in XFree 4.4 and XOrg 6.7.0.
I've got a 7500 and a 9200 here working with only open-source drivers, and the 3D is fully accelerated, no closed binary drivers whatsoever.
The 9200 is an RV280, which has in-kernel 3D support.
If you're not getting full OpenGL acceleration the problem is on your end (prolly with your xorg.conf or kernel options). I'm right here if you've got any questions.
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Hey, anybody here gonna be celebrating Winter-een-mas next month? It's getting close! Very exciting time!!
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I am running 2.6.9 with a 9200SE and I do get 3D acceleration. Particulars are:
Debian kernel: 2.6.9-1-k7
XFree86: 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8
0000:01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 SE] (Secondary) (rev 01)
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So it's not the 2.6.9 kernel that's preventing your 9200SE from giving you 3D acceleration.
go through the list and look at the incredibly international list of names of people working on the kernel...including some guy named Linus Torvalds (can't imagine where he's from) who did nine of them...
One guy has a last name of about five characters - three of which are represented as special characters...
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So what you're saying is, I'm still entirely right because they lack CVS, but they just happen to provide something the desperate can use? Thanks, good to see you agree with me.
/after/ a period of system instability brought on by a new subsystem. It works for them because typically only a few disruptive things happen at a time, and the developers are worryingly skilled. Neverthless these are NOT two branches, these are like point 'releases' in CVS instead of tarballs.
.config, removing the old tree, unpacking/emerging a new one, then copying in the .config, make menuconfig to fill in the blanks, and have to build basically from scratch... you just cvs -zX up -dP from a 'linux' directory that isn't even a symlink, and carry on building. It probably is like this with the BK interface (but then I don't know), but the software/license itself is dubious. Tip: Don't talk to me about patching every time, that involves opening a browser or predicting a URL. If you have to do either of these to keep a base system component up to date, the system is flawed.
A branch cannot be stable and development at once, that's stupid. The closest that comes to this is DragonFly which has a careful engineering cycle which includes a tagging of 'stable' in the tree every time the whole system seems to work fine, usually
Hey, a unified GNU + linux utilities base package, with CVS access and a trimmed glibc (nobody needs 90% of that code), would really get it to a BSD status.
Imagine instead of copying out your
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Does anybody have a list of the major changes/fixes from 2.6.9? Compiling the changelogs from each release of the beta builds and then distilling it down into Fixes for 2.6.9 VS Fixes for Things Broken in the Previous Beta is a bit much...
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Tja! Blitt klent med det :( Sist var 2001 när syrran gifte sig. Har planer på nästa år eller 2006 kanske. Måste ju ta frugan och svärisarna på en riktig skotertur!
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There are BK->CVS and BK->SVN gateways too, for your convenience.
Well, indeed you can't have a tree that's both stable and unstable as the previous Linux kernel trees were. I just misexpressed myself.
Linus liked the way things turned out for 2.6 and decided to develop it away until something disruptive enough to require a 2.7 tree shows up.
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Då får du nog ta upp dem till Canada eller så, här har det varit dåligt med snö ett par vintrar... Jag säger till när Golfströmmen slagit av, då borde det vara läge. :-/
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Do you really believe Jesus was born? I mean, I know it is a fashionable belief, but so is the little mermaid...
I imagine it could be a big conspiracy theory... but I would think it at least likely for there to at least have been a man called Jesus born there and abouts of 2000 years ago who thought it was a good idea to give up fishing and become a prophet. After all prophets were a dime a dozen in those days.
There is no sanctuary. There is no sanctuary. SHUT UP! There is no shut up. There is no shut up.
True, even if you replace "religion" with "government", "corporation", "charity", "FOSS project", etc.!
I no longer believe it's the "religion" part of "organized religion" that's the problem.
It's the "organized" aspect of things.
Human nature seems to be ripe for exploitation by others, and any form of organization offers much more opportunity for such exploitation than does reliance on individual initiative.
(I guess that's not too surprising when one considers the most "sacred" form of human organization -- marriage -- and the problems it has presented over the millenia.)
What's cool, to me, about Linux and other FOSS projects is that the low barrier to entry is accompanied by a low barrier to exit, making it difficult for "power-hungry people" to long succeed at twisting such projects to their own purposes.
And Linus, for the most part, continues to "run" Linux in ways that suggest, to me as a fairly "distant" observer anyway, that he is aware of many of the pitfalls, as well as the advantages, of organized FOSS development.
I believe I've said this before, but I do wish I'd had his example to work from back when I started work on my own FOSS project. I took the "cathedral" approach instead, which wasn't surprising given my more-corporate background, and it didn't work out as well as I now think it could have (though at least I did finally "ship" something that sorta kinda worked).
Interestingly, Mary Baker Eddy wrote, over 100 years ago, "Organization and time have nothing to do with Life", and she uses "Life" (capitalized) as a synonym for "God".
Having been raised a Christian Scientist (the religion Eddy "discovered" and "founded"), I often found myself wondering what in the world she meant by that...it makes more sense to me now.
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If the changelog was right, 2.6.9 would have had a lot of "this patch breaks X" and 2.6.10 would have "fixes X again". I know a lot of people having flake-outs with 2.6.9 that are indulging in 2.6.10's very good stability. Realistically Linux 2.6 rarely gets worse from one version to the next, barring some 'oops'es that often come up very quickly so any users can downgrade again without much uptime.
You can easily dual-boot between an old and new kernel and simply fall back on the old one if you have problems with a new one. If you're running even a redundant cluster of servers this should be painless, the only problem occurs if you rely on a single server (in which case you're just asking for these problems).
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