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mc chris Answers Your Questions
yo mc (Score:3, Interesting) by tekunokurato (531385)
Hey mc, we know the generalized geek rapper from the songs, but tell us about YOU. What're the hardware and OS of choice? What kind of characters do you play in D&D? What're your favourite movies/books? Top five all-time desert-island superpowers?
I have a 12 inch mac top, and it's got all the usual programs attached. We made the cartoons on macs with photoshop and protools. so i have all those programs on there as well.
I don't play D&D. I used to when i was little with my brothers, but i wasn't into all the waiting around, I guess I found it boring. I had more fun devising my own version of it, drawing maps, being more creative with it.
A few of my favorite movies are It's a Wonderful Life, Meatballs, Fresh, The Apartment, Double Indemnity, Rear Window. I like the Harry Potter books, and any tale of teenage ennui like The bell jar, or catcher in the rye, or the perks of being a wallflower. I think I'll never shake highschool.
Birthday song (Score:4, Insightful) by kirkb (158552)
Since the 'Happy Birthday' song [snopes.com] is copyrighted, would you consider open-sourcing Hesh's Birthday Song [pod-six.net] under something like the Creative Commons License? I'd rather hear it than the cheezy home-brew birthday songs that restaurants are forced to devise.
I dunno. People ask me to sing it for them at shows because it's their birthday, and I'll try to do it, even though I always mix up the room full friends, mouth full of cake line. there's no feeling worse that letting someone down that knows the lyrics better than you. especially with all the cartoon stuff. it's not my favorite thing that i've done. I don't know why hesh raps. hesh has slowly turned into me over the years.
Whose Voice Work do You Enjoy? (Score:4, Interesting) by ewhac (5844)
Your work on the Adult Swim lineup is much appreciated in our household. But I wondered whose voice work you enjoyed (not necessarily restricted to Williams Street). Who's fun to listen to? Who's fun to work with?
Dave Willis (carl and meatwad) and Dana Snyder (Master Shake) are brilliant. I love watching Dave work, because he'll start out with the scripted line then say it a million times over slowly moving towards a totally different and far funnier line. and as for dana just about everything that comes out of his mouth as shake is funny. I was lucky I got to hear all of their outtakes. and that goes for andy merrill too. I used to cut his reads up in protools. that guy likes to swear and burp, in character.
Hey chris... this is NOT how PAX will be... (Score:4, Interesting) by (PA)Storm Shadow (863825)
Making music for the Nerdcore seems problematic to me. Namely, I don't think that one would be able to put forth a bunch of intellectual property on the internet and expect this group to actually pay for it. Are you 'making it' on the take from the door at your gigs alone? (Hat's off on leaving your day job and giving it a go in either case). Do you feel pressured to put forth a conventional full-length CD for your fans, or will you continue to offer up shorter, sweeter groups of songs for free on your website?
The albums will get longer and you'll have to buy them, but I plan to make some online only songs just so I don't lose internet street cred. I'd like to do that with a cover album since we could never afford to charge people for it.
Music and computers (Score:3, Interesting) by adeydas (837049)
Since you are a musician, you must be using computers for your musical needs. Do you trust Open Source or Propriety software for that?
Also for general computing, what do you use? Can you cite your reasons for the same?!
My dj, John, makes the music on protools with a variety of plug ins. I don't really understand how it works, but I know the sound improves daily. He's constantly seeking out way to improve the sound, which is great for me. We both used macs. I've got a 12 inch lap top, he's got a G5 and 15 inch laptop. We use macs because the industry uses macs, both television and music. and pc's are lame.
Real Question. (Score:3, Interesting) by hot_Karls_bad_cavern (759797)
Did you get to spend much time with the late Harry Goz?
(Harry was Captain Murphy on Sealab, amongst many other things). What are your thoughts on him? Will we see more work with AdultSwim in the future?
I only spent one day with him really. My first day of recording. I was very nervous and I think someone had a hangover so Harry suggested some tea with some jack daniels in it. he was a really nice old guy, very professional and very funny. He was such a strong part of the show, things just weren't the same afterwards. his wife said he was very happy to go out being as popular as he was on sealab. so it was cool that he left us in style.
If presented with an actual musical instrument... (Score:4, Interesting) by smitty_one_each (243267) *
could you play it?
no. I wish I could play piano but no such luck. it's the one thing I can't do. And I wonder if I'll ever try. I feel like writing, drawing, acting and rapping is plenty for one man's plate.
Adult Swim Ties? (Score:3, Interesting) by astyanax (8365)
How about some more computer raps? "Ratz" and "Boy's dont cry" are the closest I've heard of your work to a computer-related song, any chance of getting some Linux-related rhymes? :)
I think the songs will reflect the fan base as well as what i'm going through in my life. I'm not as hardcore a nerd as people want to think I am. I'm much more of a loser. I try to listen though and get to know my fans and what they're into and then put it into the songs to an extent. I think that being solely about geek stuff like computers is dangerous though, because then you get pidgeonholed. the music is mainly about me not so much the scene.
I'll be in Ann Arbor, but what about lip syncing? (Score:4, Interesting) by ian rogers (760349)
It says on your website that you have a meeting about preserving your voice, is this a joke? Are you really having problems or foreseeing problems with your voice? Am I going to see an SNL Ashlee Simpson type ordeal happen at your show at the Blind Pig?
The jist of it is, is that I smoke too much weed which is bad for my vocal chords. but after every show kids try to smoke me up. Any blue blooded stoner would love this charity, but I've learned to get the bulk of the shows done before I start indulging. This next tour is for a straight month, so I'll be gettin the shaky hands I'm sure. And I'll never lip synch. I'm very serious about performing. and letting people see and hear that I can do these songs live.
Hard to work with? (Score:4, Funny) by myowntrueself (607117) Is Master Shake hard to work with?
I think I answered this one. Dana Snyder is one of the nicest and funniest guys in the universe. One time we were all at the Claremont Lounge in Atlanta and I showed up and he was just visiting, and he pulled out a chair for me and made me sit next to him, and we caught up. he's way cooler than me and doesn't have to treat me as nice as he does, but he does and it's cool. He's the opposite of Master Shake.
What I want to know is... (Score:4, Interesting) by th3space (531154)
Why is it that MC Pee Pants gets absolutely no respect from Satan, whereas the WisdomCube/Dubmassahedron does? To me, MC Pee Pants, while not as intelligent as the aforementioned geometric characters, is vastly more entertaining than that lot.
I think Satan likes to torture Pee Pants. Is it a surprise to anyone that Satan is cruel and vindictive? Wait till you see what he does to me next.
Question (Score:4, Interesting) by vincent404 (588127)
How did you start your act? also When and how did you get into voice acting?
I just got discovered in a bar, by Dave Willis, creator of athf and the voice of carl and meatwad. Adam Reed was with him and they both kinda snatched me up. I don't know what it was about that night that screamed, "get this kid in cartoons!" but it was one of those life changing evenings I have no recollection of because I was hammered. people ask me how to get into voice acting, and I tell them to learn to drink a pint of beer in under five seconds. that's how it worked for me.
Your Real Voice? (Score:4, Interesting) by Laebshade (643478) I know some voice actors, for example, use their natural voices for cartoon characters (Bugs Bunny, etc.). When you rapped, as MC Pee Pants (or Sir Loin) for ATHF, was that your natural voice? If not, can you post a clip of your real voice?
my voice is much lower in real life, like james earl jone's. I use the high pitched version to get on tv (and get laid.)
my honest question ... (Score:4, Funny) by YankeeInExile (577704) *
Who the fuck are you, and why do I care?
No one special and you obviously don't. Nice use of the word, "fuck," though.
Re:Who? (Score:5, Interesting) by Golias (176380)
Any chance of your newer songs becoming available on iTMS?
I dunno what that is. So i'll say yes.
I guess it won't be the MC Chris "Evolution" tour.
The jist of it is, is that I smoke too much weed which is bad for my vocal chords. but after every show kids try to smoke me up. Any blue blooded stoner would love this charity, but I've learned to get the bulk of the shows done before I start indulging. This next tour is for a straight month, so I'll be gettin the shaky hands I'm sure. And I'll never lip synch. I'm very serious about performing. and letting people see and hear that I can do these songs live.
;)
At least he believes that charity is more important than self-preservation
I have three for you:
What is your name?
What is your quest?
What is your favorite color (or is that colour)?
By the way, the Claremount Lounge is one of those rap video-ish ATL/booty/crunk/Dirty Whatever strip clubs, right? What I'd really like is more details of MC Pee Pants kicking it with his non-Boba Fett-dropping rapper colleagues...
What I'm listening to now on Pandora...
I think that being solely about geek stuff like computers is dangerous though, because then you get pidgeonholed.
Pigeonholing? Is this some sordid sexual practice some people pay money for in back streets?
"Slashdot - News and Chat Sites Deviant". (Click "homepage" link above for details).
He belongs on Slashdot for sure!
and all the little girls buying pop music tickets next to me, were giving me dirty looks the whole time. mc who?
This is the worst interview to ever be on slashdot, and I'm even counting the Shatner one.
He doesn't even begin to do a little bit of basic research before replying with "I dont know what that means" to several questions and moving on. He provides no insight into his own personality or character and sounds rather uninteresting.
And he's a fucking stoner. Jesus fuck.
What a delightful young man! Now whenever I get discouraged with our youth, I'll turn to this interview to renew my confidence in the future of mankind.
Talented, witty, obviously a born leader. Justin Guarini, watch out!
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A google story? You should submit it. If it's about Google, you know that the /. editors will accept it.
With this interview Slashdot has managed to simulate the feeling of watching paint dry. Interesting experiment.
what's wrong with being a stoner?
There were a lot of questions that weren't asked of MC Chris...
1. What cereal is in your cupboard?
2. What is the coolest article of clothing you own?
3. Ever buy a winning lottery ticket?
4. Who is your closest celebrity neighbor?
5. Why are you so hot?
(Special thanks to Teen Magazine for providing inspiration for these questions)
I'm a big tall mofo.
How do you fight piracy?
"my honest question ... (Score:4, Funny) by YankeeInExile (577704) *
Who the fuck are you, and why do I care?
No one special and you obviously don't. Nice use of the word, "fuck," though."
ok, when that question gets modded up, it's time to rethink who you are doing interviews with, vs your target demographic.
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I seriously don't want to hurt this guy's feelings and I don't mean any offense by my comments here, but this interview is stupid.
I don't mean that MC Chris is stupid. I'm sure he's a nice enough person just out trying to make a buck and make his name doing something he enjoys. More power to him for that. I've listened to his "music" and am not at all into it (nor am I into that Aqua Teen Hunger Force thing - I watched several seasons in one sitting and only laughed one time in 30 episodes).
I just don't think Slashdot is the right venue for this sort of thing. Or, rather, I don't think he's an appropriate guest for Slashdot. Does someone only have to use ProTools and make a reference to Star Wars or 20 sided dice in order to be qualified as Slashdot/nerd/geek material or something?
Really - Shatner, Wil Wheaton, Lawrence Lessig, Neil Gaiman, TMBG (which I only consider appropriate - despite hating their band - because of the technology they put together to serve their dial-a-song) . . . and the guy who does MC PeePeePants?!
Anyway - I wasn't looking to start an argument or put this guy down at all. He's clearly a creative guy and he's pulling some work his way. That's pretty damn cool. But in seven years of Slashdotting, this is probably the least interesting interview that could have ever been done. Not at all because of MC Chris - but because I just don't see how it fits in here. At a music-oriented/behind the scenes of producing music kind of site - it'd be perfect.
I also acknowledge that I could just keep my mouth shut - but since there are a lot of rude comments about how people feel this was a poor interview choice for _this_ site (and were many such comments in the initial thread before), I thought I would throw in a more reasoned commentary on it that didn't needlessly deride anyone.
It just seems to indicate a general "mainstream" vent Slashdot has been taking in the last year, more than ever before. It's turning into Yahoo!/Wired magazine in all the undesirable ways.
Athletic Scholarships to universities make as much sense as academic scholarships to sports teams.
but he doesn't know what iTMS is? Though i guess most mac people when presented with the term iTMS might not associate it with iTunes
Thanks for the interview, still waiting on next album
and his website has turned all to flash
But what it's famous for is being a nasty dive strip club where you really don't want to look at the strippers, whose acts include things like crushing beer cans between their large floppy breasts.
I've too scared to go there, myself, but I've seen it on TV.
Uh, it's not April 01 yet. What's the deal? :P
I think Satan likes to torture Pee Pants
Did I just read this on slashdot? Am I missing something?
Whatever happened to that interview? Did he ever answer the questions?
Best Slashdot Co
Angel Dust, huh?
That's up there with Quaaludes in the "fantasy drugs they warned me about in high school but don't really exist" category.
If someone offered me PCP I'd probably buy it, and mount it behind glass, just to show it off to people.
Seriously, I've never seen or heard a firsthand account of PCP in my life. Only crazy anti-drug propoganda about people trying to fly off the Sears tower, and shit like that.
I don't need no instructions to know how to rock!!!!
What does "mc" mean?
Mainframe/UNIX Bit Twiddler and long time Windows/Linux Hobbyist.
The Theorem Theorem: If If, Then Then.
He does voice work for Aqua Teen Hunger Force and Sealab 2021 which are part of Cartoon Network's Adult Swim NOT Comedy Central.
I agree that this is maybe the worst "Ask Slashdot" interview ever, but I blame the questions more than the interviewee. It's not like the original thread gave him a lot to work with.
He writes good rhymes about geeky subjects. He does the voices of a couple of funny cartoon characters. The dude's a nerdcore rapper, why are you jumping down his throat for not knowing what an obscure acronym like iTMS stands for?
Even Jesus hates listening to Creed.
MC Pee pants aka HESH. DOES belong on slashdot. He is a nerd, he is news. Just like that guy in the 80's who smashed watermelons on piano's, he is revolutionizing cartoons and comedy for an edgy audience (a.k.a. the slashshot audience). If this isn't enough of a match, then the reason he belongs here is because 420 ppl are downloading his bittorrent files right now.
nt
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Hey, has anyone seen that rap video that's floating around the Net, which features a guy who figures out that he's "a robot programmed not to know that he's a robot"? It's hilarious, and a pretty good song. I can't find another copy again, and I never figured out who were the musicians/producers. Any clues?
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Did anyone care about this interview? Even some of the questions he was asked were only modded to +3.
We get this interview, but we never got the Bruce Perens questions answered.
My beliefs do not require that you agree with them.
You just aren't "in" enough, or something. He's a voice talent for cartoon network's "adult swim", which is quite popular with nerd-types. It's one of those niche things that is partly popular because of its unpopularity, if that makes any sense. It's chock full of in-jokes and pandering to the tiny fanbase. I thoroughly enjoy it :-D
He doesn't even begin to do a little bit of basic research before replying with "This is teh suck" to the whole interview and moving on. He provides no insight into his own personality or character and sounds rather uninteresting.
And he's anti-stoner. Jesus fuck.
...at the Claremont doing the beer-can-crush thing, and that was Blondie. If you don't know who Blondie is... well, you should find out. She's an institution, I tell you.
:)
I remember one night there, batchelor party thing going on... of course Blondie came over because a couple of the folks in the group knew her. (I merely knew "of" her.) She did the beer-can thing (PBR, buck-a-can, baby!), but also she did the bit where she would slide up to her target, face-to-bosom close, grab the targets head with one hand, grab a boob with the other, and just SMASH her boob into the guy's head repeatedly. Then she'd switch hands and do it from the other side. Hilarious to watch.
"People" using "unnecessary" quotes should be "shot".
After planting phrases like 'copyright', 'open source', and 'creative commons' in my 'birthday song' question, I knew it would get modded up. It was a semi-serious question, though. And what answer did I get? "I dunno", followed by some rambling about how he can't remember the lyrics.
Worst. Inverview. Evar.
Slashdot: come for the pedantry, stay for the condescension.
And i was not loosing much ...
.. but ...
I don't want to flame
How can people call this thing "music"?
If you use the word Music to describe Led Zeppelin, or Iron Maiden, you can't use the same word for this guy. May be the correct word is "market" and not "music"
WTF am I doing replying to an AC at 5 A.M on a Friday night?
Quaaludes are totally real. Haven't you ever played Drug Wars?
Re:Worst. Interview. Ever. (Score:-1, Offtopic)
/.ers come up with.
Whoever modded this offtopic should not be allowed to moderate. The question was a direct question about the comment in the GP's post.
I'd actually like to hear a good answer to the parent post. I'm against all drug use, including marijuana, but I can never seem to come up with a decent logical discourse to support my position against marijuana use. I'd be interested to see what
It seems like I was more correct with my original assessment. This interview (if one could really call it that) seems to say "I am MC Chris - I don't really care about you as long as I make money off you...eh, I am bored". I can't really tell from the interview just what kind of person this individual is - he sounds like he is bored, doesn't care much or anything about the technical side of things... Of course, even the questions posed to him by /.'ers seem bland - so maybe he didn't have much to work with.
Maybe it is all blandness, all the way around? Heh - even this post feels bland...
Reason is the Path to God - Anon
Ya know, I have been around /. a long time. I have always discounted people posting comments about how /. sucks and is "getting worse". I don't like to criticize /. because it is what it is and I think Taco has done a good job.
However, this time I have to wonder why this interview made the front page. This guy is nothing more that a weed head with a, and I quote, "12 inch mac top".
--fatboy
At least he was honest? I'd much rather have a straight answer than half the crap that's spewed by other people who've been interviewed.
Are you the guy that wrote the SCSI drivers for Linux? :)
Just because it CAN be done, doesn't mean it should!
about the google logo it could be related to the fact that on this day in 1903, Niagera Falls runs out of water because of a drought , this could be related to the google logo, ....http://www.todayis.com/
gotta give credit where credit is due
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The album is FREE. But I'm guessing you know that and are trying to be funny, right? :-)
The dangers of knowledge trigger emotional distress in human beings.
The m in his name stands for monolith.
Interesting theory on why this story is here:
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http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=14
This is from the past story which announced that this interview would be done.
The AACS key is NOT 0xF606EEFD628B1CA427BEA93A9CA9773F
Roughly translated, "You have more to do than watch TV for sixteen hours a day."
* And remember, it's spelled N-e-t-s-c-a-p-e, but it's pronounced "Mozilla."
or if you click on the logo it tells you that its world day for water
not to be a total troll, but if you can't come up with a good reason to be against something, maybe you should stop and realize that you've just got some sort of irrational emotional bias.
or, (here's the troll) you could realize that there IS NO "decent logical discourse to support your position". weed is good. well, better than beer, anyway, and that hasn't destroyed western civilization yet.
Yes, yes, let's mod up everyone who's bitching about how sad they are that they don't know who mc chris is. That's very cool.
Wait a second - you fuckers clicked on this link! "Waaah, I'm really upset that this article is on slashdot, even though read the headline, knew that I had no idea what the article was about, and chose to spend time reading it anyway. My life is so hard."
I don't know who the fuck mc chris is, but I'm not going to complain that I don't understand what he's talking about after I made the CHOICE to read the article and scan the comments. Jesus. Whining like this is the reason the FCC exists.
I'd actually like to hear a good answer to the parent post. I'm against all drug use, including marijuana, but I can never seem to come up with a decent logical discourse to support my position against marijuana use.
Perhaps that's because your boundaries are too narrow?
Oh yeah, that's because you meant "all illicit (according to US law)" drug use, not "all" drug use. I've never taken advil in my life... have you? WHOOPS, you used a drug!
Drugs are just like technology in the sense that on their own, they possess no ethos or morality. It's how they are used/abused that determines this. Look at how many people in the general US population are now hooked on seratonin-regulating drugs for "depression"... and yet, MDMA is still illegal. What a joke.
So yeah, if you're going to be "against all drug use" with big black X's on your hands, then I'd suggest shacking up with the Amish. In the meantime, reality isn't going to be marked by a big line in the sand as to what's "good" and "bad", so I'd suggest actually sitting on the other side of the fence before making such uninformed blanket statements.
"Quoting famous computer scientists out of context is the root of all evil (or at least most of it) in programming." - K
No. The interview sucked. A lot of the questions picked were absolutely lame. I like to learn about things I know nothing of. After reading this interview, I don't feel I learned a whole lot. That is the purpose of an interview -- to enlighten and inform... unless this has become 'Teen magazine for geeks'.
See my journal for slashdot ID's by year. Mine created in 2005. http://slashdot.org/journal/289875/slashdot-ids-by-year
Truly he is a Buddhist in spirit.
And a relatively nice guy in general in my humble opinion.
I am not sure how many times he performed his "resume" (drinking a whole beer in 5 seconds) when he was up in Seattle, but it was a lot. I don't think he is huge into self preservation.
(/local/home/curiosity)-#who -u|grep thecat|cut -c 44-49|xargs kill -9
but if you can't come up with a good reason to be against something, maybe you should stop and realize that you've just got some sort of irrational emotional bias.
To clarify, the problem is, the arguments I use to support my position on the matter are generalizations drawn from personal experience. These arguments are subjective and are attacked as such.
weed is good. well, better than beer, anyway, and that hasn't destroyed western civilization yet.
Domestic abuse "hasn't destroyed western civilization yet", either.
Who's tied to comedy central?
Uh, I don't know, maybe the fact that he owns a Mac and he's making his living because of downloadable music?
I timed it, it took 5 seconds to look up iTMS in Google and click the first link. I don't think it's right to jump on the guy for not knowing something, but its not exactly like it's a hard-to-know acronym either.
Error: PANTS NOT FOUND. Press <F1> to continue.
Oh yeah, that's because you meant "all illicit (according to US law)" drug use, not "all" drug use.
Yes. People often refer to illicit drugs as simply "drugs".
Really, though, I am thinking towards drugs that significantly alter the user's behavior.
And, no, I don't drink. And, yes, I am implying alcoholic beverages (before you go on about the fact that I do drink various liquids).
What the fuck does fracking mean? Is that some kind of gay joke?
Yeah, it's the worst interview ever because he gave you an honest answer and not a prepared speech from a PR rep? It's the worst interview ever because the man is up front and honest about the fact that, honestly, he can't remember the words to a song that got recorded once and everybody has played back a million times and therefore believe him to know by heart? You asked a question and got an honest answer and you fault him for it? What the fuck?
Reinvent the wheel only at either a lower cost, greater effectiveness, or your own personal enrichment and satisfaction.
...while this interview may not have been the technological infused read you were hoping for, I still found it very funny. I laughed out loud several times. ATHF may not be for everyone, but there are a lot of us /.ers that enjoy laughter as well as usefull information, and besides...no one forced you to read a interview with someone you didnt even know.
If n (or more) pigeons are placed in k pigeonholes, then at least one pigeonhole contains ceiling(n/k) pigeons
actually, the adult swim block is only 2-4 hours long, depending on what day it is, if its a holiday, etc. Your exaggeration is pointless.
"No one is more miserable than the person who wills everything and can do nothing." -Emperor Claudius 10 BC - AD 54
I agree that this is maybe the worst "Ask Slashdot" interview ever, but I blame the questions more than the interviewee. It's not like the original thread gave him a lot to work with.
/., so the questions gave him a false sense of who his audience was, and how to respond.
I agree. He probably saw the majority of the questions were basically jokes, and approached all of them with that state of mind. On top of that, he likely doesn't read
As far as him researching topics, he's not one of us. This was probably a random task he completed throughout the day, and was of little significance to him. Would you bother to do research in response to people asking questions like, "Who the fuck are you and why do I care?" Probably not.
Could kick MC PeePant's ass!
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Yes. People often refer to illicit drugs as simply "drugs".
Sorry, that's not going to cut it. A drug's a drug, simple as that. So, define "significantly", then... I don't think that THC counts as significant; under the influence, I'm still the same person and I'm still rational. I think that users of Prozac, Ritalin, and other OTC's would say the same thing.
However, I'd agree in that a substance like MDMA can significantly alter the user's behavior @ >150Mg. At about 50Mg... maybe significant? At 25Mg, it'd be enough to be noticed, but not enough to alter the user's behavior.
Now, I'm not promoting this drug in this example; I'm simplying saying that your terms are completely arbitrary, as are the laws that apply to these drugs. This is a rather dangerous slippery slope, and the end result is that your classifications are based more on personal prejudice than chemistry. The world isn't quite so black-and-white.
And, no, I don't drink. And, yes, I am implying alcoholic beverages (before you go on about the fact that I do drink various liquids).
haha. =)
"Quoting famous computer scientists out of context is the root of all evil (or at least most of it) in programming." - K
What makes you think he knows what Google is? Computers don't seem to be his thing.
"Domestic abuse `hasn't destroyed western Civilization yet', either."
What an insightful reply. Let's just have at it and say that Hitler was a drug addict and weed eat the brains of babies.
If this is how you beleive in something it is no wonder that people think you couldn't support your weak arguments. Stop, take some time to collect your thoughts about this subject and test your assumptions. If you have a hard time finding credible data on the subject, realize that the position is one that isn't defensible and either keep it to yourself (drop the inane comparisons to violent crime). If you can't do that you can always tell people that you have a religous belief on the subject and go from there.
Now some talking points for you to research could be... Crack, in the 80's in urban locations, led to gang violence and broke up families. A similar phenomena is happening now with methamphetamine in the rural midwest, where people are getting poisoned by mercury and fertilzers during its production.
So you think the interview is stupid. OK, so are many things; stupid is subjective.
/. stuff? OK, I don't; opinions differ. Lots of geeks I know dig Adult Swim (more than non geeks), this guy works with AS on two shows.
Think its irrelevant to
who the fuck are you, i dont care. (jimmy crack corn...)Hooray for civility! Are you American? why shoud one care about anything?
Jumpinjegooglefat! Bunch of angry nerds!
(really, why so many angry nerds? better yet, why the stupid posts? why the stupid questions - this one is pretty lame and stupid!)
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1) No.
2) I assume you mean straight-up cesium? which is 55, but there are 31 isotopes from 114 to 145.
3) I would be a Jade plant, and would most apreciate bright, direct sunlight. However if I have been in the shade for a while, moving me immediately to bright sun may cause sunburn, and I should be slowly re-introduced.
You'er welcome.
A Call For A New Slashdot Moderation Level!
Goddammit, I need to get in the middle of this discussion. if only i were more awake....
( stumbles off to drink coffee )
Sitting Walrus Blog
I love how the tour dates were only mentioned in the teaser.
I have a website. It's about Macs.
Theres a household hint you won't get from the back of Readers Digest.
Where does the school board find them and why do they keep sending them to ME?
The dissociative anaesthetics are likely to prevent various causes of brain damage. Dextromethorphan (a common, over the counter cold suppressant that acts similarly to ketamine and PCP) has been shown to protect the brain from damage caused by alcohol and epileptic seizures.
Unfortunately, it's suspected that these drugs cause their own unique form of brain damage termed Olney's Lesions, so these discoveries are certainly mixed blessings.
While never having tried PCP myself, I'm well experienced with other dissociatives (most notably dextromethorphan and nitrous oxide), and I can speak from experience that they're an incredibly bizarre family of drugs.
On dextromethorphan, for example, even at low doses, looking in the mirror is absolutely shocking because while you intuitively know what you will see, you're so dissociated that you can't identify with your reflection.
A friend of mine was slipped a joint laced with what I can (based on her account of the story) only conclude was PCP; her mind was filled with violent imagery and self destructive thoughts for several hours, and then she had to endure another four days of dissociation where she had difficulty associating her body parts with "her". It was very disturbing to hear about.
Or, you could just hover over the logo with your mouse and see that it's "World Water Day" ... whatever that is. But then you could click on it and see the results of a search for 'World Water Day 2005' and find out.
Be civil to all; sociable to many; familiar with few; friend to one; enemy to none. --Benjamin Franklin
I am also a geek rapper UH!
Tough to dress business casual with your pants hangin down though...
I know about 3/4 of slashdot here is so jaded that they've never heard of mc chris, well, here's your opportunity...
We just finished a working on a DVD of his performance here in Houston in Feb.
We have a torrent of the final DVD's ISO, which you can burn, watch, and distribute freely. If you don't like it, give it to someone else.
It's a big file (3.5GB), and it'll take some time to download, but it's avaiable here.
Is MC Chris for real?
Or is he portraying a character who is putting us on, ala Andy Kaufman?
Or is he really this lousy?
I don't "get" it.
Well, I didn't find Andy Kaufman funny, either.
schade.
MC Chris is a rapper and the voice of cartoons on the Cartoon Network's Adult Swim. He's most known as Hesh on Sealab 2021 and MC Pee Pants (aka Sir Loin) on Aqua Teen Hunger Force.
:)
On the internet rap scene, he's a driving force behind the whole 'Nerdcore' subgenre -- rappers talking about subjects that, well, show up on Slashdot. I think his Nerdcore cred more than earns him an interview on Slashdot.
Here's an example, the lyrics from his nerd anthem 'Geek':
Chorus: Stop pickin on me. Because I'm a geek.
I'm strange to you. You're strange to me.
Well, one of these days. I'm gonna pack heat.
Your brains on the wall. My face on tv.
They dissipate the pungent odor of a power holder.
Sand kickers comin' sixty clicks upon the sonar.
They're gonna fold me over like a trapper keeper folder.
If this was D&D, you'd see me jump into a portal.
I'm a geek, spelled g double-E k.
I meet my boys in the basement about every day.
Card table, comic books, and cans of coke.
That we blow out our nose after a Star Wars joke.
We got style.
Tape on our glasses, zits on our faces and hair on our asses.
Shiny shoes, belt buckles and pocket protectors.
Tricked out back packs like my main man Venkman's.
We got problems, namely the jocks.
The SUV suckers with class rings on their cocks.
Otherwise known as the motherfuckers touchin' the tit.
If I was wolverine, you'd hear my knuckles go snikt.
I'm not perfect, the before picture of Peter Parker.
I always trip and drop my tray in front of the girl that always sparkles.
I got brains, fuck B's and C's.
I got a grade point average higher than Hendrix on New Year's Eve.
chorus repeat
Don't fuck with a geek, just cuz he got a gift.
You get in my way bitch you get a Vulcan neck pinch.
One night I didn't go to sleep, up playin' Risk.
At dawn, I won, got global dominance.
But it in the hallway it's completely different shit.
Can't get my locker open and my pants are always split.
Can't seem to catch a ride, can't ever get a date.
But in my mind 7 of 9 thinks I'm great.
Prom night bites, primadonnas prevail.
I'm at home reciting lines from the Holy Grail.
Stuffed nose, and some swollen glands.
Never been kissed, never been holding hands.
Just blow my biscuits over Britney in a bubble bath.
Darth Vader with inhalers, in case my lungs collapse.
The dragon died from a heart attack
You may advance and yo, I upped your armor class.
Being a geek, it aint so bad.
I can't get laid, I got Japanime stashed.
And a mind jam packed with sci-fi facts.
Dreadknocks rock, dinobots kick ass.
chorus repeat
Tell me those lyrics don't get him into Slashdot.
Now, according to one of the interview questions, he's not as much of a geek as his songs indicate. But we fans wouldn't have known that if Slashdot didn't give him an interview.
I agree it wasn't a great interview, but then y'all gave him really lousy questions. Sorry I missed the original thread.
Genocide Man -- Life is funny. Death is funnier. Mass murder can be hilarious.
If you have a hard time finding credible data
I've found various studies that I believe to be credible, but I find it difficult to use those in a conversational debate. What I was looking for is not so much facts and data, so much so, as compelling arguments based in fact.
realize that the position is one that isn't defensible and either keep it to yourself
You are correct, sir. I should have kept my position out of the equation when I initially posted.
drop the inane comparisons to violent crime
I was simply trying to express that just because something hasn't destroyed western civilization, that doesn't mean it's a good thing.
One could insert any number of problems into ___ hasn't destroyed western Civilization yet. I just plucked domestic abuse out of thin air. I was not trying to relate domestic abuse to drug use.
If you can't do that you can always tell people that you have a religous belief on the subject and go from there
I'm an atheist. That won't work.
I assume that when you say you're against "all drug use, including marijuana" you're also against alcohol and tobacco, which are completely legal for adults over 21 and 18 (respectively) to buy. Because believing that alcohol should be legal and marijuana should not is an entirely indefensible position. The argument is something like "Alcohol is good, even though it can poison and kill you... but weed is bad, even though you cannot overdose on it. I believe EVERYTHING my government tells me! Reefer madness is scary!"
Even the WTO thinks United States marijuana laws are bullshit.
I think you jumped the gun. He was defending his position that marijuana should not be smoked against the claim that marijuana doesn't do any damage to society as a whole. The hyperbole used was that marijuana was less dangerous than beer, which "hasn't destroyed western civilization yet." He responded that the capacity to ruin society at large should not be the qualitative test to determine the moral ramifications of doing (or not doing) some action.
If you have a hard time finding credible data on the subject, realize that the position is one that isn't defensible and either keep it to yourself (drop the inane comparisons to violent crime). If you can't do that you can always tell people that you have a religous belief on the subject and go from there.
And why can't religious beliefs not be questioned like any other belief? Why is his position not defensible? Remember, he wasn't defending his position as a whole with his comment, merely rebutting another point (the original source of the lame argument).
Now some talking points for you to research could be... Crack, in the 80's in urban locations, led to gang violence and broke up families. A similar phenomena is happening now with methamphetamine in the rural midwest, where people are getting poisoned by mercury and fertilzers during its production.
I appreciate your desire to spread more logical discussion (Slashdot could definately use it), but I think the real problem is that he was attacking a quite elementary point, which of course made his response equally elementary.
If I ran for President, and had all sorts of great ideas about how to change the country, I would do something similar if someone asked me something silly like "what's your stance on euthanasia?" A lame comment begs a lame response.
Slashdot: Where people pretend to be twice as smart as they really are by behaving like children.
I'm still the same person and I'm still rational.
:)
But notice what I originally wrote:
Really, though, I am thinking towards drugs that significantly alter the user's behavior.
Would you say that there is no significant change to your behavior when you smoke weed?
I'm simplying saying that your terms are completely arbitrary, as are the laws that apply to these drugs. This is a rather dangerous slippery slope, and the end result is that your classifications are based more on personal prejudice than chemistry.
I am no expert on behavioral science by any means and am not familiar with the best way to quantify behavior. So yes, the terms are arbitrary and I'm generally talking out of my ass when I try to argue the point. This is why I wanted someone else to debate it
He did answer the question. It was in his first two words, "I dunno."
He illustrated then why it is that he doesn't know. He lacks confidence when performing it and he doesn't feel that it's his best work, so he doesn't know if it warrants releasing to the world. Seems pretty simple to me and it also seems like a succinct answer.
If somebody asked you to release something that you weren't necessarily proud of or happy with, would you say "oh sure hell yes!" or "I dunno" just like the venerable MC Chris?
If I'm a tool, then you're but a simple nail, and I'm attempting to pound some sense into you...
Reinvent the wheel only at either a lower cost, greater effectiveness, or your own personal enrichment and satisfaction.
Damn straight. I think the DARE program and all that other shit did too good a job putting the fear of God into kids.
Correction, obviously I meanet Cartoon Network. Sorry about that TWX, no one was trying to compare you to VIAb ;-)
I assume that when you say you're against "all drug use, including marijuana" you're also against alcohol and tobacco
That assumption is correct.
I personally believe these things fall into what I call "negative industry". I'm sure there's a proper term for it, but that's what I call it.
Let's take tobacco use. Think of all the work and effort that goes into the production, marketing, lobbying, sales, etc. Now take into account the medical aspect and healthcare costs. Weigh these against the benefits of tobacco use (recreational aspect). I would imagine most people would agree that the cost/benefit ratio would land tobacco use into the territory of negative industry.
So now... we get to alcohol and marijuana use. Does it qualify? I will not claim it to be factually so, but my personal belief is yes.
OTOH, I believe in personal freedom and it's sad to see those personal freedoms eroded. I would hesitate to regulate and control substances on those grounds. Perhaps if there were an entirely different way to dissuade drug use other than banning it outright?
Even the WTO thinks United States marijuana laws are bullshit.
Appeal to authority? Or are there some particular arguments from the article you might peresent yourself?
My question is: what, you wanna step? Check it.
MC Chris? -- maan, it's just too easy to diss ya
ima shut your site down with my shell scripts
so best insist upon that extra strength firewall
lest your bits end up splattered on my tires y'all
watch you back, cause you know i stack racks
that can DOS your ass till your screen goes black
so don't try to rap back cause it's just too late
check - your system went dark like it's 2038
it's the start of a new epoch, yo your time is done
with your washed-up rhymes back from 2021
just two of my lines and your mind starts thrashing
tables stop hashing your cerebellum crashing
your DJ got embarrased and faded out on a backspin
cntrl-alt-del tryin' to bring you back into action
but after 12 hours of hacking it's like you just won't start
guess we best break you down and sell you off for the parts
damn... you know you can't step!
or are you ready to battle for the nerdcore crown?
MC Chris could have at least backed up his assertion of "PCs are lame" with reasoning why they are lame compared to Macs or other platforms (there are tons of technical and non-technical reasons why this could be true). Had he done at least that, he might have a better shot in my eyes (as a geek - not as a musician - I haven't listened to his work, so I don't know if it is good or not).
You are right, though, that he is at least honest with himself - it seems more like those battling for him are being less honest than he is himself (which is very weird, but very human, too).
Reason is the Path to God - Anon
I appreciate the fact that you focused on being defensive, instead off discussing the forward looking points. Oh well.
points in order:
* The only interesting debate on this subject should be had strictly on the merits of facts. This has been an exploited politcal theme that has shown itself to ignore data to inflate it's importance in average american lives. There are interesting conclusions both ways on various parts of this topic that can be explored and are not subjective. If you have a hard time discovering those conclusions on your own, stay out of the debate. It's ok to not be a great debater as long as you understand your limitation and don't waste peoples time.
* normally when illustrating that an argument is a strawman, call your rival out on it. No need for idotic comparisons to irrelivant inflamatory nonsense. Of course "____" hasn't destroyed western civilization since we are living in it. Your second responce was indeed all you needed to say without losing objective credability.
* Your personal theological view has nothing to do with the fact that all people, as best they may try, do indeed believe passionately about certain topics without any rational reasons why. I bring that up only for the fact the you alluded to your strong belief and your difficulty atriculating that position. I did imply that this may be one of those topics for you due to your discourse.
I do. Although we forget sometimes, Slashdot is a diverse audience, and we don't all have the same interests. I happen to really enjoy "nerdcore" rap, and I've bought all of his albums. I'm also a huge fan of most of the Adult Swim line-up, and he's participated in several of those shows. The humor there is very much non-mainstream; some of it is quite intellectual. Even the absurdist Aqua Teen Hunger Force sneaks in some very erudite humor every once in a while. And while I was already a fan of his, I'm sure this interview introduced a few more people to some work they enjoy but wouldn't have found otherwise.
To whoever started this interview, good job. There will always be a large chunk of the audience who's not interested and some will always complain... BFD.
I'd actually like to hear a good [...] logical discourse to support my position against marijuana use.
I am also against recreational drug use. (And for the benefit of whiny and defensive defenders of recreational drugs, yes I include alchohol and tobacco in that category.) I don't have any religious objections. While some of these do gruesome things to the body or impair vital motor skills, others don't. Such things are not the most important concern to me. I would even be against a hypothetical perfect recreational drug that had no directly harmful side effects of any kind. Nothing would happen to the people who used such a drug.
And that's the problem.
Recreational drug use can be an effective substitute for other forms of recreation that are actually productive: playing outside, reading, programming and so on. Life is too short for meaningless, drug induced stupor.
Not all those who wander are lost.
* No really, he was comparing and contrasting "illicit drug use" with "domestic violence". When I contrast those two I see two very distinct categories of action, one reality avoidance through personal sensory deprecation and causing harm to others through means of physical harm. He didn't not expand on that to any satisfactory degree for me or you to conclude that we shouldn't be making those camparisons. Now I have this "drug use abuses others" argument left hanging in the air. That is more inflamatory then illustrative so I called him on it.
* For me all topics are on the table, with the caveat that we at least stay on topic for it's discussion. The GP had been seeking to illumate ways of better arguing his position on drug use. If he could not determine any good points of argumentation, it becomes a belief not based on reason and he should drop it. It is OK to have those beliefs if you do not confuse them with facts, but mixing them leads to frustration by all.
sidenote: Running for president and not answering that "lame" question would be political suicide. Voters just seem to eat up decisive stances no matter how untenable they may be.
) * No really, he was comparing and contrasting "illicit drug use" with "domestic violence". When I contrast those two I see two very distinct categories of action, one reality avoidance through personal sensory deprecation and causing harm to others through means of physical harm. He didn't not expand on that to any satisfactory degree for me or you to conclude that we shouldn't be making those camparisons. Now I have this "drug use abuses others" argument left hanging in the air. That is more inflamatory then illustrative so I called him on it.
I'll completely agree that the whole drug abuse causes societal decay argument is just plain stupid--but he was responding to someone who presupposed he held that opinion. Therefore, it is that great-grand-parent (I get so lost trying to reference this stuff) who started it all when he brought up the whole "society crumbling" nonsense--even if he didn't agree with it. The original parent certainly didn't make much out of it, I'll give you that.
For me all topics are on the table, with the caveat that we at least stay on topic for it's discussion. The GP had been seeking to illumate ways of better arguing his position on drug use. If he could not determine any good points of argumentation, it becomes a belief not based on reason and he should drop it. It is OK to have those beliefs if you do not confuse them with facts, but mixing them leads to frustration by all.
His problem is not that he lacks evidence to support his claims, it's that he lacks publicly available scientific research to back his claims. He has a lot of anecdotal evidence. Unfortunately, this has more than likely made him biased.
sidenote: Running for president and not answering that "lame" question would be political suicide. Voters just seem to eat up decisive stances no matter how untenable they may be.
That's one big reason the political climate in this country is so "lame."
Slashdot: Where people pretend to be twice as smart as they really are by behaving like children.
Whoever modded me as a troll, fuck you. That's a true story.
Ummm You might might want to watch what you say about drugs for depression. It is a documented illness. Not something you put in quotes like it is some sort of lie. Also, as far as I know, mainstream anti-depression drugs are all non-habit forming. Maybe you know something I don't, but I do know that there are definitely people who can't control feelings of depression and need help. "Depression" isn't some lie to keep us all in line like in some Ray Bradbury novel.
People that lace joints should be given a severe beating and their teeth kicked out, for starters.
Yeah, they're assholes. Funny how the dusted joint thing is often used as a scare tactic by anti-pot crusaders, yet it wouldn't happen if the stuff were legal.
I didn't say there weren't people unnecessarily diagnosed. But DON'T YOU DARE tell me that what I went through with depression was some sort of lie. Anti-depressants aren't some sort of magical drug that provide/cause fuzzy happiness all the time. IT just lets me control my feelings better. I still have ups and downs. It is merely nice have some ups too. not just downs like I did before. I suggest you examine your words and your understanding before you talk about things you've obviously never experienced.
Fair enough. I am biased because it definitely has helped me. Some people need an ideological shift before they need a chemical one. It is true. Seeing a doctor was the last thing I wanted to do. But others would rather just pop a pill. I see where you are going.
"'m against all drug use, including marijuana, but I can never seem to come up with a decent logical discourse to support my position against marijuana use. I'd be interested to see what /.ers come up with.
I don't really think there is one, except perhaps: "Why don't you have something better to do with your time?"
Ultimately I would suggest that marijuana is the most benign of all the drugs. Its less addictive and physically harmful then the legal drugs (alcohol and cigarettes), and most heavy users eventually moderate their use or out grow the stuff all together.
Generally speaking I take a policy of let bygones be bygones when it comes to other peoples dietary, drug, religious, etc. habits. After all, what do I know? Many people lead much different lives then me; who am I to judge their choices?
Cool art gallery, if you're into that sort of thing.
But can we at least not be so insulting to this guy? Your beef is with slashdot, not mc chris. Someone from slashdot approached him to do an interview, and he humored us. This is the thanks he gets. So maybe we shouldn't be so rude. What if he reads these comments?
"I'm not religious, but at the same time I don't get why science always has to have something to prove."
Thanks for saying what likely 99% of us are thinking!!
/. Troll could come up with lines like that! About all that was missing from the interview was for him to start shouting that he is on teh sp0ke and telling us he got his inspiration from goatse.
I dont think even a
The extreme majority of us dont know who he is
From the interview we were not given any particular reason to want to know who he is - "Satan likes to torture MC Pee Pants"? WTF? Was that seriously an actual line from a front page interview??
If you're not mature enough to take responsibility for your actions when on mind-altering substances then you shouldn't take them. I'm not saying you're not, I'm just saying that not everybody uses them as an excuse. Drugs (this includes alcohol) are never a scapegoat for me and my friends. If we do something stupid while intoxicated, we'll probably apologize later if we hurt somebody in some way. But for the most part, if you're stupid in the first place, you'll do stupid things on drugs. If you educate yourself on how they'll affect you and what to expect, I don't think you'll have any problems.
I used to feel the same exact way as you. But then I realized I was just being a big pussy and didn't trust myself. I don't use drugs to escape into some fantasy world, I use them to gain a different perspective on things - I never lose touch with reality.
All that being said, I think I'm in the minority when it comes to this philosophy on drug use, sadly.
I belong to the ______ generation.
Honestly, I've read a lot of posts saying "is this appropriate for Slashdot?"
The short answer is yes. Adult Swim caters to a niche audience... interestingly, the audience that is the sort that used to be the majority composition of Slashdot.
Slashdot even has a topic for Anime (though not all Adult Swim shows are Anime).
I would have to say that this particular interview is about 1000x as appropriate as any story on this site that has anything nice (or, at least, not maen) to say about Microsoft products. You see quite a few more of those than you used to, and many posters posting from Microsoft platform machines.
I missed this when the questions came around, but here is another mc chris interview if you're looking for more goodness.
;) I'll post the straight text of the interview if there is interest.)
(Disclaimer: Yes, I am affiliated, but it's the only way you're going to find out if his favorite kind of nut really IS a macadamia.
Also, as far as I know, mainstream anti-depression drugs are all non-habit forming. That is incorrect. Try googling withdrawl & SSRI(s). I'm assured you'll get hits a plenty. fyi: SSRI is the class of drug that most "mainstream" depression drugs fall under.(eg Prozac, Lexapro, Zoloft)
Yes... the four major dissociative anaesthetics are PCP, ketamine, dextromethorphan, and nitrous oxide. There are many others, but I don't know what they are offhand and most people probably haven't even heard of them before in any case. There are some structural similarities between ketamine and PCP (a benzene ring and another similar carbon ring), but they are quite different; however, they probably act in the brain in similar ways with action on the PCP and possibly sigma family of receptors, IIRC.
All dissociatives cause similar dissociation and anaesthetisation, which can be quite amusing provided that the user isn't placing themselves in physical danger: a friend of mine on a moderate dose of dextromethorphan rolled over towards me and complained that she had these breasts on her chest that were not hers, and she had problems identifying with the notion that she had two legs. While her thinking was not rational, she was not actively seeking to remedy either situation, and so she was fine and we could both laugh about it later. I'm under the impression that PCP is often different in these regards in that users may try to fix the situation, which is where you hear the horror stories of people cutting off body parts, etc.
Nitrous oxide is a fantastic dissociative that's dramatically different from dextromethorphan, in my experience. Incredibly interesting and while the dissociation is probably stronger, you're so detached from your body and mind that you're likely not aware of the extent of it. Additionally, it's also short lived and fairly physically safe. Great stuff.