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The Planet's Most Moronic Hacker
RawGutts writes "This is the story of "bitchchecker" (the hacker) a user who lost it because he thought he had been kicked of an IRC channel by "Elch". The hacker comes back on the channel threatening to hack and ruin Elch's machine, and dares Elch to give his IP address.
The address given was 127.0.0.1. "
Sounds rather familiar to me...
Life imitates art (or else some would-be "author" copies Illiad):
Another reason people should read Userfriendly.org.
Aggggh!! He's hax0r3ed my computer... I have the same IP... he was using my machine!!!
The real litigious bastards...
Trying to deal with an idiot on IRC. The server maintainer told him to try our alternate server at 127.0.0.1. And to keep trying because sometimes it was hard to get in.
Never saw him again.
"The Sage treasures Unity and measures all things by it" - Lao Tzu
That this is a hoax. It's simply not feasible.
Athletic Scholarships to universities make as much sense as academic scholarships to sports teams.
so that I can remove it in my preferences.
REM Old programmers don't die. They just GOSUB without RETURN.
No, this is humor. Seen the foot icon?
Check "humor" in topics you want filtered off in your prefs and stop complaining.
Anagram("United States of America") == "Dine out, taste a Mac, fries"
It is the same reason for my URL I gibe http://localhost:8080 figuring some one will see that port 8080 is open on there system (probably from a failed attempt to get apache working) and start hacking it. If sucessfull they broke into their computer. As for the most moronic hacker I have seen worse threates. Like "My Dad owns the internet and he will have you band, then you will be sorry"
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
Here is a cache:
Something nice I read on www.stophiphop.de (got pointed there by a comment on www.macguardians.de) is this nice story of a hacker: http://www.beast.mos-worlds.de/modules/new...php?s toryid=184 (site might be down, quite a lot of people are reading this).
In case you don't speak german (just as this hacker), I've tried a little translation to english. I might have made some spelling errors, but the original spelling wasn't perfect either. The guy really said "buy buy" in the german version. I've posted this on the forum on http://www.desertcombat.com before, so if this looks familiar, might be the same. I've corrected some mistakes and put the < > back to the right version (The DC forum does not support them). All censoring was done by this particular forum here.
Notice that in germany we get DST earlier than in the US.
The story starts (I'm shortcutting here) with an [Please control your cussing] insulting everyone on the IRC channel. Most people there believed it was rather funny, but it got even more funny. For information: The dangerous hacker is called bitchchecker and the one being hacked and original author of the comments, who is talking here, is known as Elch. 127.0.0.1 is always the IP-adress of the computer you're currently using, any request there will return to your computer.
QUOTE
* bitchchecker (~java@euirc-a97f9137.dip.t-dialin.net) Quit (Ping timeout#)
* bitchchecker (~java@euirc-61a2169c.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #stopHipHop
<bitchchecker> why do you kick me
<bitchchecker> can't you discus normally
<bitchchecker> answer!
<Elch> we didn't kick you
<Elch> you had a ping timeout: * bitchchecker (~java@euirc-a97f9137.dip.t-dialin.net) Quit (Ping timeout#)
<bitchchecker> what ping man
<bitchchecker> the timing of my pc is right
<bitchchecker> i even have dst
<bitchchecker> you banned me
<bitchchecker> amit it you son of a bitch
<HopperHunter|afk> LOL
<HopperHunter|afk> shit you're stupid, DST^^
<bitchchecker> shut your mouth WE HAVE DST!
<bitchchecker> for two weaks already
<bitchchecker> when you start your pc there is a message from windows that DST is applied.
<Elch> You're a real computer expert
<bitchchecker> shut up i hack you
<Elch> ok, i'm quiet, hope you don't show us how good a hacker you are ^^
<bitchchecker> tell me your network number man then you're dead
<Elch> Eh, it's 129.0.0.1
<Elch> or maybe 127.0.0.1
<Elch> yes exactly that's it: 127.0.0.1 I'm waiting for you great attack
<bitchchecker> in five minutes your hard drive is deleted
<Elch> Now I'm frightened
<bitchchecker> shut up you'll be gone
<bitchchecker> i have a program where i enter your ip and you're dead
<bitchchecker> say goodbye
<Elch> to whom?
<bitchchecker> to you man
<bitchchecker> buy buy
<Elch> I'm shivering thinking about such great Hack0rs like you
* bitchchecker (~java@euirc-61a2169c.dip.t-dialin.net) Quit (Ping timeout#)
What happened is clear: That guy entered his own IP-Adress in his mighty Hack-Tool and crashed his own PC. This way, the attack on my PC was a failure. I was already starting to think that I did not have to worry, but a good hacker never calls it a day. Two minutes later he returned.
QUOTE
* bitchchecker (~java@euirc-b5cd558e.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #stopHipHop
<bitchchecker> dude be happy my pc crashed otherwise you'd be gone
<Metanot> lol
<Elch> bitchchecker: Then try hacking me again... I still have the same IP: 127.0.0.1
<bitchchecker> you're so stupid man
<bitchchecker> say buy buy
<Metanot> ah, [Please control your cussing] off
<bitchchecker> buy buy elch
* bitchchecker (~java@euirc-b5cd558e.dip.t-dialin.net) Quit (Ping timeout#)
There was
I call my main work machine "localhost". Confuses the hell out of a surprising number of people and programs...:)
I think everyone who writes sploits should include a small quiz at the front. If the script kiddie is dumb enough to not know that 127.0.0.1 is a loopback address, they should not be allowed to run the sploit.
"Weapons should be hardy rather than decorative" - Miyamoto Musashi
I think that goes for OS's too
Does anybody know what happened to Miranda? Will she and AJ ever come together?
But this just pushes the limit on stupidity! Sometimes I wonder if these people are even human. I mean come on, how did he even get on IRC?
Well if anyone wants to hack me my domain name is: localhost
You have been warned.
...that anyone who posts a ten-year-old joke as news should be calling anyone else a moron.
Seriously, this or things like it have been around since the idea of a loopback was presented. There's got to be at least a dozen posts to bash.org with the joke, it's used on IRC at least daily, and as others have pointed out, it's previosuly been in UF and Dilbert.
It's like Taco just figured out loopbacks, and he's all proud.
the article was VERY slow when i looked, so i'm mirroring it here
k er .htm
http://www.georgiagrrl.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/hac
As you slide down the bannisters of life, may the splinters never point the wrong way
It's in the "It's Funny, Laugh" section. It's newsworthy in a section whose purpose is to make people laugh.
Cheers,
Ian
We once convinced this guy that "peer" was this l33t h4x0r who monitored all of irc and randomly disconnected people he didn't like, and/or people who badmouthed him. That was fun.
Daniel
Carpe Diem
Hello Captain Obvious, you're Obviously late, does the Obviousmobile need some servicing?
It takes a man to suffer ignorance and smile
Be yourself no matter what they say
All you clowns start bitching about how this isn't news or this has been around for a while, I've got one word (well really a contraction) for you: Don't.
Not everyone has seen it and even if you have, its a joke, its funny, laugh. Most of us are at work and its nice to get some humor in the day.
Bitchchecker has been maligned by the press and the mob here. It's clear that bitchchecker simply spared these computer neophytes from certain demise. Why? Because bitchchecker is too cool to waste his time on some fools.
Someone you trust is one of us.
Please do NOT let the site change into bash.org. I enjoy reading bash.org for certain things, and I enjoy reading slashdot for somethings. If I want bash, I'll go there. If I want slashdot, I point my browser to slashdot.org.
Now - please look at the stories submitted here. There is one about a fucking snail being faster than an aDSL line. Then there is a 12 year old story about a 127.0.0.1 hacker.
I realise that you guys are now owned by the OSDL. I realise that you now have ads on. However, don't let the compulsion to feed your advertising revenue overcome your editorial standards. By keeping slashdot focused on actual tech stories, about "Stuff that Matters", you attract a class of reader who is more likely to actually buy the server or the linux product that your advertiser is offering, enabling you to increase the rates that you charge.
Now I like a good laugh as much as the next person, but this is just lame. On slashdot, the stories themselves don't need to be funny, it's the people who post who make it funny. Granted, the beowulf cluster jokes are getting a bit old.
C'mon guys, be strong, stand up to your sponsors.
R.
No, darn it all to heck, this person is not the planet's most moronic hacker He is the planet's most moronic cracker.
--
What short sigs we have -
One hundred and twenty chars!
Too short for haiku.
Originally in German.
I volunteer at a local high school helping a teacher explain introductory programming and interfacing using a Microchip PIC MCU. Last year, we had a kid that told us that he should just be given the credit because he was so good with computers.
The kid was, of course, an idiot. He could never get an assignment done because, in his words, it was too easy and beneath him. A sample assignment that he couldn't do would be to flash an LED once per second by writing an application in C - my version of the program was about 8 lines long.
After a sit down trying to level set him and tell him he wasn't as smart as he thought he was, he berated me and the teacher and told us that he was going to show us how good he was and trash our systems. I told him go for it, as I had a router firewall as well as a software firewall on my PC at home.
He asked for my IP and wrote "127.0.0.1" carefully on his hand.
The school didn't see him for a week and when he came in, he accused me that to stop him from hacking my computer, I hacked his. His parents were pretty agitated because the home computer was trashed and they wanted to bring a lawsuit against me.
We explained to the parents that 127.0.0.1 was the local PC's IP address and any attacks directed against this IP would actually be on the launching computer. We told them to go to a computer store and confirm what we were saying. We never heard back from the parents and the kid never returned to the class.
I've told a few people that if they want to show off how good they are, let's see them hack my computer at 127.0.0.1 over the years (it's in "123 Robot Experiments for the Evil Genius") and 60% of the time they've gotten the joke immediately. For the remainder, except for this one time, everybody else has figured it out before damage was done.
myke
Mimetics Inc. Twitter
Back in the early days of IRC when everybody used dial up (and most people thought a firewall was something your car had), a lot of people had really crappy modems with badly written firmware (usually winmodems).
Anyway, when someone started acting like that idiot in the story on IRC, daring people to hack their machine or whatever, I'd say "OK" and send them a ping with the payload:
+++ATH0^M
And half the time, they'd suddenly leave the channel and come back a few minutes later complaining about their ISP or their phone line or something.
And I'd just be quietly giggling to myself.
It was really fun because the arrogance/stupidity of these kinds of kiddies on IRC was directly proportional to the likelyhood of them having a crap modem that would fall for that...
I'm a perfectionist but I'm trying to cut back.
warez.satanic.org
warez.cybernothing.org
warez.dsnet.com
warez.opus1.com
aNd m4nI m03r!!!!!11!!@!@
How 2 ma3k yuor 0wnzor w4r3z sYt3!!!!11!@!
(Note to mods: RTFL before modding me down)
#naabhaprzrag, #sverubfr-000, #agi-fcbafberq, negvpyr[pynff*=' negvpyr-ary-'] { qvfcynl: abar !vzcbegnag; }
No one ever went bankrupt overestimating the stupidity of the American public.
:)
The moment you use the rationale "People aren't that stupid" to say why something can't happen, they you've already lost the argument.
People buy things from Spam and give out their personal details in response to bulk e-mail. I'm sorry, but many people are dumb as rocks.
Besides, we already know what 127.0.0.1 is, but how's a novice to know this, if all they know of computers is what they've picked up in a few weeks of experimenting?
I don't find this implausible at all. Even the fact that the "hacker" never made the connection between their hack attempts and being disconnected is consistent with what I've seen of human nature. I used to have an employee who blew five fuses on her UPS and didn't realize that it happened every time she plugged her space heater into the UPS!
I had her plug the Space Heater into the wall, and the UPS stopped blowing fuses.
"Live Free or Die." Don't like it? Then keep out of the USA
my puter kept crashing!... I can hack all of you...i dare you to give me your ip Address if you dont il'll have my dad band you from our information superhighway!...we own it! suckers!! n e wayz, i dare you to post your ip, i hack soo fast you can't know what i did. you all pussies hahahahaaa...i can hack all of youi 127.0.01ers onl;y pussies use firewalls...turn it off and we fight
...something I pulled on a classmate in college.
Way back in the olden days, we had a VAX/VMS mini that we did all our Computer Science projects on. Being bored one day, I wrote a "Fortune Cookie" program one day that others could include into their login profile to get a random fortune when they log in.
I decided to mess with a certain person's mind who was dialing in from home to the system (at a blazing 2400baud, mind you). I modified my Fortune code to detect that it was him logging, in, and when he did, it spawned off a new process that would inject random characters onto his screen at random intervals. I put the code in place, and watched the fun.
We saw him log in, and then log out after about a minute. Then log back in again. And then log out. And then back in again. And then out. After a while, he sent us an email complaining that he couldn't get a clean phone line into the system that evening for the life of him. Hee hee. I don't think we ever fussed up to it.
$ dig warez.mcc.ac.uk
; <<>> DiG 9.3.1 <<>> warez.mcc.ac.uk
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 20043
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 3
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;warez.mcc.ac.uk. IN A
;; ANSWER SECTION:
warez.mcc.ac.uk. 3600 IN A 127.0.0.1
;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
mcc.ac.uk. 2895 IN NS utserv.mcc.ac.uk.
mcc.ac.uk. 2895 IN NS curlew.cs.man.ac.uk.
mcc.ac.uk. 2895 IN NS gannet.scg.man.ac.uk.
;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
utserv.mcc.ac.uk. 2895 IN A 130.88.200.6
curlew.cs.man.ac.uk. 11579 IN A 130.88.13.7
gannet.scg.man.ac.uk. 43500 IN A 130.88.94.110
;; Query time: 201 msec
;; SERVER: 64.182.4.32#53(64.182.4.32)
;; WHEN: Wed Apr 27 07:57:21 2005
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 186
Have you tried recompiling your humour kernel? Try the British flavor, you should at least chuckle with that installed.
If what you are reading sounds funny, or sarcastic, lame, or stupid
it is because it is supposed to be. just laugh
hey, if you type in your pw, it will show as stars
<Cthon98> ********* see!
<AzureDiamond> hunter2
<AzureDiamond> doesnt look like stars to me
<Cthon98> <AzureDiamond> *******
<Cthon98> thats what I see
<AzureDiamond> oh, really?
<Cthon98> Absolutely
<AzureDiamond> you can go hunter2 my hunter2-ing hunter2
<AzureDiamond> haha, does that look funny to you?
<Cthon98> lol, yes. See, when YOU type hunter2, it shows to us as *******
<AzureDiamond> thats neat, I didnt know IRC did that
<Cthon98> yep, no matter how many times you type hunter2, it will show to us as *******
<AzureDiamond> awesome!
<AzureDiamond> wait, how do you know my pw?
<Cthon98> er, I just copy pasted YOUR ******'s and it appears to YOU as hunter2 cause its your pw
<AzureDiamond> oh, ok.
Why does everyone always fall back to 127.0.0.1 when trying to mess with people? That whole 127 class is reserved for loopback.
Interestingly, on a windows XP machine the following happens:
Pinging 127.54.34.67 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128
While on my Mepis box I get the following:
PING 127.43.54.2 (127.43.54.2): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 127.43.54.2: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.0 ms
What are you doing with pictures of my wife ??
here
I am one of many. My idea is not unique, nor do I expect my voice alone to sway you. I speak in a chorus of opinion.
New recruits have been getting sent out for things like left-handed smoke shifters, buckets of prop wash, pieces of shore line, and similar fool's errands for as long as there have been armies. Gofer jokes and snipe hunts are old as the hills, but it's still funny when you find someone clueless enough to fall for one.
Pranking clueless newbies is a time-honored tradition, and is a necessary rite of passage for the prankee.
Why is it that the proponents of "one nation under God" are so eager to get rid of "liberty and justice for all"?
I used to give out an address that led to some servers at the FBI. I admin'ed several hundred domain names at the time and made various entries under different domains all pointed at such well watched US government servers.
I rarely saw the results of what happened when men in dark suits came knocking at their door, but my imagination was satisfaction enough.
The Master (Angelo Rossitto) in Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome, "Not shit, energy!"
Language is defined by the useage over time. Societies collectively define words. Many words you use every day started out with very different meanings. Deal with it, find a new word for "hackers" and move on.
Physicists still use the word "velocity" to mean both speed and direction, while the mainstream uses it to just mean speed. All scientists use the word "theory" to mean a tested hypothesis, while most people use it synonymously with hyptohesis.
I could go on with similar examples. We don't have to give up our name "hacker" to mean a coding guru, and cracker to mean a malicious coder. We are a subculture, and it is perfectly acceptible for us to use very tightly-defined words that the rest of socieity misuses. We do not have to accept their definitions just because everyone else uses it that way.
We do not have to participate in consensual stupidity.
Microsoft is to software what Budweiser is to beer.
It means the entire 127.x.x.x block is loopback addresses, not just 127.0.0.1
<xml><I><am><so><damn>Web 2.0</damn></so></am></I></xml>
This kind of shit gets posted, when so many good articles get shitcanned? What the fuck barbeque?
This story reminds me of this one time when this script kiddie asked me for my IP address and I told him 127.0.0.1! Oh wait, that's because it's the same fucking story! That's because everyone has seen this done or done it themselves once in their fucking life, and nobody fucking cares.
Let me tell you another story. This one time, I was at a coffee shop, and the girl making the coffee was hot, and she said something to me, and my response was witty and cute, and she laughed and it was funny and it made me feel cool. Then I drank my coffee, went home, and masturbated.
NEWSFLASH: Nobody fucking cares!
BT
Teg Teg, tell him about the time you were witty!
The entire 127/8 is reserved for loopback purposes
:-)
Actually, 128 is not reserved for that purpose. Consider this:
Nah, he was using 127/8 as a netblock representation. saying 127/8 is equivalent to saying 127.0.0.0/255.0.0.0, just as saying 192.168/16 is shorthand for 192.168.0.0/255.255.0.0
I didn't realize that some of the unices out there didn't respond to the other loopback IPs, though.
Slashdot. Hopefully everyone gets to learn something (relatively useless) today
Wrong. Read the RFC. The whole 127 is reserved, but only 127.0.0.1 is loopback.
:-)
bzzzzt. Time for an Anonymous coward to also learn something relatively useless today
according to RFC 1166:
The class A network number 127 is assigned the "loopback" function, that is, a datagram sent by a higher level protocol to a network 127 address should loop back inside the host. No datagram "sent" to a network 127 address should ever appear on any network anywhere.
Source: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1166.html
It was "NO PLATE" and according to snopes.com it's true. http://www.snopes.com/autos/law/noplate.asp
In light of my undying optimism and hope for the future of all mankind, I am going to refrain from assuming what others have, that you need instruction. Instead I will assume that this was one of the more masterful trolls we will see on /. today. Well done.
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Of course this is the same deposition where they tried to find out the real name of that evil 'majordomo' who was running all those anti-scientology mailing lists
Sure, everybody has. But how many times has said kid actually gone through with it and nuked his damn box? Assuming story is true, of course.
Other problems with your post:
This kind of shit gets posted, when so many good articles get shitcanned? What the fuck barbeque?
If you expect good articles on slashdot, you're in the wrong damned place. This is where self-righteous losers come to discuss the latest Apple MHz bump, or how some administrative oversight is proof of America's descent into totalitarianism, or the latest shitty Star Trek/Wars/Buffy show. Oh, and trolls like me who like to screw with them.
So why the hell are you here? Nice post, by the way.
The victim must be a moron himself. I just hacked into 127.0.0.1 myself and the guy's system is still vulnerable. Un-freaking-believable. You would think that after a huge slashdot story about how moronic this guy was, he would fix his system. What an idiot!
even better is to just make a dns entry for that.
and for those "edumucated" leet hax0rs who have learned that 127.0.0.1 = loopback, just make it 127.92.36.148 or something.
leetwarez.somedomain.com -> 127.92.36.148
keep them script kiddies busy for days!