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Wal-Mart Parody Site Censored by DMCA

davidwr writes "Wal-Mart used the Digital Millenium Copyright Act to temporarily shut down a university student's parody of the Wal-Mart Foundation." The story's details are also available via BusinessWeek. From the article: "Papasian launched the Web site April 16 for an art class at Carnegie Mellon University called 'Parasitic Media.' The class teaches students about the political uses of satire in the media. He acknowledged using Wal-Mart's graphics on his Web site but said he believed he could use the images as part of a parody."

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  1. Just call it MalWart by aphor · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you alter the content, they have no claim against DMCA. MalWart != WalMart.

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    1. Re: Just call it MalWart by Eric+Damron · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And Lindows != Windows

      Oh, wait!

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    2. Re: Just call it MalWart by saintp · · Score: 3, Funny
      I prefer to call it WalFart, myself.
      "We smell for less"?
    3. Re: Just call it MalWart by frantzdb · · Score: 4, Funny

      If you do that, you can use the DMCA. If they think MalWart has anything to do with WalMart, then they circumvented your encryption scheme.

    4. Re: Just call it MalWart by WarPresident · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually, they were "shut down" over this. Well, they crumbled under a C&D to pull the strip, anyway.

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    5. Re: Just call it MalWart by millennial · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, the DMCA is not related to copyright. It's related to copyright circumvention. If a person downloads a movie/song off the internet, or shares a song, they are NOT in violation of the DMCA, regardless of what the *AA want you to think.
      The DMCA makes it illegal to either willfully circumvent a copyright prevention technology, or to create a technology that does. Most CDs still have no copyright protection. If you share or download a ripped non-protected CD, you are not violating the DMCA, because you didn't circumvent any protection measures. If you share a movie, however, it is likely that you have somehow violated the DMCA; downloading a movie, however, does not.
      Remember, kids: the DMCA does not modify USC Title 17 (federal copyright law). It has nothing to do with the enforcement of copyrights.

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  2. Foolish boy... by meringuoid · · Score: 4, Insightful
    ... didn't he read the clause about 'if and only if you have the legal resources to make an argument about it'?

    Exceptions to copyright for parody, fair use, etc. only apply to those who have lawyers.

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    1. Re:Foolish boy... by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 3, Informative

      Fair use in parody only applies if you're not using their exact graphics/trademarks. If you are you're violating their copyrights, and possibly open for libel/fraud depending on what you're attributing to the company.

      I don't know why this would fall under the DMCA, other than the fact that its a website. Standard copyright/trademark law would apply.

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    2. Re:Foolish boy... by schon · · Score: 5, Informative

      Fair use in parody only applies if you're not using their exact graphics/trademarks.

      Bullshit. Try reading section 107 of the copyright act.

      If you are you're violating their copyrights

      Again, pure bullshit. Use of a work for parody is *NOT* a copyright violation.

      possibly open for libel/fraud depending on what you're attributing to the company

      It's not fraud unless you claim that you are the entity in question, and it's only libel if the claims are false, and only in some situations (libel is more difficult to prove against public entities.)

      Standard copyright/trademark law would apply.

      Yes, and because it's parody, it has an exception under Section 107 - so he's protected.

    3. Re:Foolish boy... by nickname225 · · Score: 5, Informative

      I am a lawyer - althought Copyright is not my area of expertise... anyway - the standard for parody is something like - is a a reasonable person likley to confuse the parody work as the work of the original. It sounds like no reasonable person would confuse this guys work as an actual wal-mart site.. But as noted above those kinds of arguments can be expensive to prove and that protection really does only apply to those who can afford to at least get the issue in fromt of a judge and ask for dismissal or summary judgment. Waht would that cost in a case like this - figure with discovery and drafting and filing fees - maybe as much as 10,000 and up. Easy to see why this college student just folded.

    4. Re:Foolish boy... by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 2, Informative

      Legal precident sez you're wrong.

      Deere & Co. v. MTD Products, Inc., 41 F.3d 39 (2d Cir. 1994).

      Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders, Inc. v. Pussycat Cinema, Ltd., 604 F.2d 200, 206 (2d Cir. 1979).

      Libel applies whereever you attribute something in writing to someone who does not hold that belief. It is always legally actionable.

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    5. Re:Foolish boy... by AKAImBatman · · Score: 2, Informative

      It sounds like no reasonable person would confuse this guys work as an actual wal-mart site.

      Go to his site and click on the Cease and Desist PDF. After looking at the screenshots they presented, I'd say Walmart has a pretty good case for unfair use of copyrighted material. Not to mention all the trademarks he appropriated in this stunt...

    6. Re:Foolish boy... by schon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Thanks for replying, it's good to get some feedback from someone "in the field" (even if it's only tangentally related.)

      anyway - the standard for parody is something like - is a a reasonable person likley to confuse the parody work as the work of the original

      Yes, however I believe that deciding if something is a parody or not is a different issue than whether a parody is protected.

      The previous poster said that parody is not considered fair use, and that it's a violation of copyright to use someone else's material in a parody, and I was correcting him (or her?)

      those kinds of arguments can be expensive to prove

      Which is why we (well me, and probably the people who modded me up :o) are outraged.

      protection really does only apply to those who can afford to at least get the issue in fromt of a judge

      Which (again) is another issue entirely - and (if I may say) is a sad, sad comment on the state of free speech in the country that claims to value its' freedom so much.

    7. Re:Foolish boy... by slapout · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Saturday Night Live uses the exact graphics from other companies in their paraodies. But then again SNL isn't very funny, so maybe that doesn't count...

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    8. Re:Foolish boy... by Rick+the+Red · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Perhaps, but what does the DMCA have to do with it? The very fact that Walmart chose to cry "DMCA violation!" tells me they know they don't have a case and are just trying (successfully) to intimidate the guy.

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    9. Re:Foolish boy... by Temsi · · Score: 2, Interesting

      *Anything* is actionable - whether or not it's *winnable* is another matter entirely.

      Exactly, and until the US legal system starts making those who sue and lose, pay for the defendant's legal costs, corporations and others with lots of funding, will continue to use the legal system as a business tool, used for intimidation and career advancement.

      Until the legal system is changed so it applies equally to all people and not just those who can afford a good lawyer, corporations will continue to get away with all sorts of shit, at the expense of our rights.

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    10. Re:Foolish boy... by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Informative

      The DCMA has a clause that allows copyright holders to force an ISP to remove infringing content. (This letter was directed at the ISP.) All that's required to get the ISP off the hook is for the website owner to write a response saying that he feels he has a right to the materials he is publishing. The DCMA then *requires* that the ISP restore the material, as they are no longer responsible for its trafficing.

    11. Re:Foolish boy... by torokun · · Score: 4, Informative

      I'm not a lawyer, and this is not legal advice.

      I'm a law student, but I think your description may be a bit misleading. Consumer confusion is usually more relevant to the trademark issues, although it may be considered under the question of substantial similarity in the copyright infringement inquiry.

      He used walmart-foundation rather than walmartfoundation in the URL. This could easily lead to what's called initial interest confusion, where consumers are siphoned away from a legitimate site by a confusing label. This can be a basis for a claim of trademark infringement. If he had used walmart-foundation-sucks or something similar, it would avoid this problem. Also, there's a big trademark dilution law getting ready to go through, that will increase the likelihood that trademark owners can succeed in suits for 'tarnishing' or 'blurring' of their mark, e.g. by associating it with pornography.

      As for parody, the more important considerations are of fair use, such as whether the parody is criticizing or commenting on the actual work that's copied, whether the copier has taken more than what he needed in order to make the parodic point, whether the use is commercial, and the effect of the parody on the market for the works.

    12. Re:Foolish boy... by teromajusa · · Score: 2, Insightful

      until the US legal system starts making those who sue and lose, pay for the defendant's legal costs, corporations and others with lots of funding, will continue to use the legal system as a business tool, used for intimidation and career advancement.

      A corporation can easily afford to pay the legal bills of their opponent if they loose. How many individuals can say the same? Individuals would be even less likely to face off against corporations if the consequences of loosing was a mamoth corporate legal bill. You'd only attempt it if you were certain to win - and how often in legal disputes is victory certain?

    13. Re:Foolish boy... by Phisbut · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Your right, looking at the screenshots, you wouldn't notice that it was a parody until you were reading the articles.

      If you don't read the articles, then you think it's a legitimate WalMart website. Then what? Since the images are WalMart's own images, it doesn't harm WalMart that you see those images, does it?

      It's only the content of the articles that could potentially harm WalMart, but when you read them, you quickly realize that it is a parody, therefore it's no longer copyright infrigement.

      Either way, there's no harm done to WalMart, or at least not in a way that their lawyers can work on.

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  3. This is waaaaay overblown... by FortKnox · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is getting way to much press. Lemmie put it to you this way:
    Walmart Foundation: www.walmartfoundation.org
    Parody Site: www.walmart-foundation.org

    Walmart is NOT bitching about this.

    He basically has a site where people probably stumble onto when they are trying to go to a legit site. Walmart's ONLY beef was that he was using their images.

    I can't tell you how we ALL have known since the web was invented that you don't steal other peoples graphics. Sure, there may be some grey area with parodies, but its the same thing we knew when we were just getting into making HTML.

    But, since this kid wants press, he starts using "CENSORED BY THE DMCA" so we'll all cry fowl.
    He rolled the dice and lost... and all it was was over the stupid graphics.

    I say, "its an art class, how about making PARODIES of the IMAGES too?"

    No extra publicity in that, though...

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    1. Re:This is waaaaay overblown... by meringuoid · · Score: 5, Funny
      I say, "its an art class, how about making PARODIES of the IMAGES too?"

      WalMart don't like his site using their graphics? Well, I'm sure some good Slashdotter will soon post a link to the image he should put up instead... I'm sure WalMart won't like their customers inadvertently staring into the Great Gaping Hole O' Horror, but hey, it's not their image, so screw 'em!

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    2. Re:This is waaaaay overblown... by Eradicator2k3 · · Score: 5, Funny

      he starts using "CENSORED BY THE DMCA" so we'll all cry fowl

      Uhmm....Chicken! Albatross! Swallow (African and European)! Emu! Canary! Oh, you meant foul.

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    3. Re:This is waaaaay overblown... by schon · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Walmart is NOT bitching about this.

      You're right, they're not bitching, they're having their lawyers shut the place down.

      Walmart's ONLY beef was that he was using their images.

      Which is irrelevant, as (according to Section 107 of the US Copyright act) it was fair use:
      Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A, the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified in that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright.

      Parody is both criticism and commentary.

      there may be some grey area with parodies

      Uh, no. There is no gray - it is very much black and white.

      he starts using "CENSORED BY THE DMCA" so we'll all cry fowl

      And rightly so. His First Amendment rights are being violated.
    4. Re:This is waaaaay overblown... by 0x461FAB0BD7D2 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Even if he did copy their graphics and logos and so on, their lawyers asked the entire site to be made offline.

      How is that fair? By all means, use the DMCA and whatever other laws to request that he remove the offending graphics. But remove the site from public access? That, too, is crossing the line.

      Also, IANAL, but aren't parodies deemed fair use?

    5. Re:This is waaaaay overblown... by FortKnox · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I actually detest Walmart and all it stands for, and my current client (i'm a contractor) is one of their direct competitors.

      I just hate it when people overhype crap to get attention.

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    6. Re:This is waaaaay overblown... by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 2, Informative
      You've got it backwards.

      Parody Site: www.walmart-foundation.org

      Walmart is NOT bitching about this.

      That's the part they should be bitching about because people could get mislead into thinking that it's the actual WalMart site. The URL should be changed.

      I can't tell you how we ALL have known since the web was invented that you don't steal other peoples graphics. Sure, there may be some grey area with parodies, but its the same thing we knew when we were just getting into making HTML.

      Every week Saturday Night Live uses the exact intro graphics and theme music from other shows that they are paodying. I guess nobody told them that they can't "steal" other peopls' graphics. That's probably because they actually *can* "steal" other peoples' graphics if it's a parody.

    7. Re:This is waaaaay overblown... by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Not only is it criticism and commentary, but this is a student engaged in an activity directly related to scholarship, so that's three counts in his favour.

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    8. Re:This is waaaaay overblown... by dr_dank · · Score: 3, Informative


      Uh, no. There is no gray - it is very much black and white.


      Not quite. Remember the case with Penny Arcade and American Greetings? They made a parody of their Strawberry Shortcake in the style of an American McGee's Alice game.

      IIRC, it wasn't protected as a parody since they weren't parodying Strawberry Shortcake, but using that character to parody something else (American McGee, in this case).

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    9. Re:This is waaaaay overblown... by pete-classic · · Score: 5, Funny

      As it turns out, the distinction between foul and fowl is an albatross for many.

      -Peter

    10. Re:This is waaaaay overblown... by MyLongNickName · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Exactly. But Coolio could not sue even though permission was not given. Weird Al stated that he never does parody songs without permission, and has, for example, not done a parody of Prince's 'Purple Rain' (I think) for this reason.
      He further stated this is not a legal requirement, just an attempt to keep relations between him and the music industry on good terms.

      I, for one, always make my legal decisions based on Weird Al quotes.

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    11. Re:This is waaaaay overblown... by fireboy1919 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Ah yes...I can see how that applies.

      Just as the images of Strawberry Shortcake were being used to parody something other than Strawberry Shortcake, the trademark images of Walmart are being used to parody something other than...wait a minute...

      They're parodying Walmart with images of Walmart. I call Red Herring on you, Dr Dank. This is a pretty clear example of classic parody.

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    12. Re:This is waaaaay overblown... by Artifakt · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I like high prices. I like buying hardware at a local store that competes with Walmart. I like the local hardware store being closed after 5:30, even though the sink may have started leaking at 9 PM. I like getting up at 2 in the morning to empty a bucket, on a weekend, waiting for that other store to open, so I can pay 50% extra for the part I will need.

      Why? Because that store carries other parts Walmart just won't carry. That little store has a guy who will do some free fixing and adjustment on my chain-saw just to sell me a new chain now and then, and when I needed a file to sharpen it, that store had one in stock that was 'right', not 'halfway close'. That store will sell me one washer or Woodroffe key from a bin, and for the washer, Walmart wants to sell me a pack of a dozen with a dozen-minus-one sizes I don't need, while for the Woodroffe key, Walmart wants to sell me a blank stare. Go compare a section of Walmart with a specialty store that sells just that section, and that 'low selection' is 'on the other foot'.
      I can save money at Walmart now. When that drives the little hardware store out of business, I will spend all that money I saved, and a whole lot more, doing things like hiring a professional to completely replace that window with the busted crank, instead of replacing a simple assembly myself, because only a few full-time pros can now afford to keep the parts for thousands of different windows in stock, and the only way they can make money is to charge for more repairs than are strictly needed.
      I'm one of those jack of all trades guys. I build my own PCs, do my own carpentry, plumbing and wiring, rebuild my transmission, and even have liscences and paperwork for some of these skills. The only time I turn a car, a plumbing job, or electrical work over to a pro is when it would take me more than my time's worth, and they are actually cheaper. Walmart is pushing out the supplyers I need to keep this up, and even the original poster's claim to detest Walmart and all it stands for doesn't seem too strong. Frankly speaking any more politely than that about Walmart feels about like saying "This pesky Multiple Sclerosis is getting in the way of my laying a new tile floor in the bathroom and I find that a trifle inconvenient.".

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  4. And no archive.org either by JUSTONEMORELATTE · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Damn, for once the Internet Wayback Machine let me down -- no entries for http://www.walmart-foundation.org./

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  5. Ahhh, good old fair-use, remember the days? by garcia · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "The goal was to make the site look like it could be a real site from a company like Wal-Mart, but have text that was so ridiculous that anyone who read it would realize that it was absurd," Papasian said in a statement on his revamped Web site. "If anyone believed it to be a real Wal-Mart site, that is only a testament to the degree of absurdity that exists within corporate America today."

    Due to all the retarded behavior that our fellow citizens exhibit on a daily basis I am never surprised when I see people falling for direct parody.

    I am also not surprised that corporations are allowed to shutdown *what was likely fair use*. Sadly, someday, we will all look back on this and say, "look how free we once were. It survived 400 hits before it was taken down. They didn't even have to approve the webpage before it was posted."

    1. Re:Ahhh, good old fair-use, remember the days? by meringuoid · · Score: 5, Funny
      Look, don't complain about the corporations. The King, who is appointed by divine right, grants the corporations land, and in exchange they provide him with fighting men in wartime. The corporations in turn grant land to executives, who (in theory) turn out to fight when called upon. In practice, the executives then rent out the land to poor tenant farmers, the serfs, who not only actually do the fighting in wartime but also work the land, paying a portion of their income to the landlord and the Church and keeping back enough to support themselves and their family in moderate means.

      You see how the system works to everyone's benefit? Everything fits together tidily. It's called feuda^H^H^H^Hcapitalism, and it's a good thing, despite what Comrade Tyler and his gang of pinko subversives might have you believe.

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    2. Re:Ahhh, good old fair-use, remember the days? by Spazmania · · Score: 2, Funny

      I am never surprised when I see people falling for direct parody.

      As the maintainer of whitehouse.net I can speak to this. You'd be amazed how many irate letters I get about Bush's proposal to paint the whitehouse green.

      http://www.whitehouse.net/index1.html

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    3. Re:Ahhh, good old fair-use, remember the days? by killjoe · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It always amazes me how little everything changes. Hundreds of years of social "advancement" and we are still living in a quasi serfdom while the good citizens or kansas debate whether evolution is a valid scientific threory and whether the fact that god doesn't like homosexuality is grounds enough to deny people rights.

      Will we ever rise above hording goods and looking to the sky for answers?

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    4. Re:Ahhh, good old fair-use, remember the days? by Kinthelt · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's posts like these that deserve more than just a score of 5.

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    5. Re:Ahhh, good old fair-use, remember the days? by MasterOfUniverse · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Its sad that the parent comment is modded funny and not insightful...

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  6. Parodies are great, but... by yroJJory · · Score: 2, Insightful

    there are very clear precedents stating what is cool and what isn't.

    Making a parody is cool. Using the original artwork to create your parody isn't.

    Even when making a parody of a song, you must pay royalties on the original and you must obtain permission should you use any portion of the original mechanical.

    If you're gonna create a parody site, you simply cannot snag artwork from the original, and you certainly can't use the company's actual logo!

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    1. Re:Parodies are great, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      "Even when making a parody of a song, you must pay royalties on the original and you must obtain permission should you use any portion of the original mechanical."

      No. I refer you to the US copyright act section: 107 Limitations on exclusive rights: Fair use, which states:

      "Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A, the fair use of a copyrighted
      work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or
      by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment,
      news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use),
      scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright."

      While it does not explicitly mention parody, that is covered under criticism, comment, or news reporting. This is why John Stewart can show clips of copyrighted works on the Daily Show and not infringe.

    2. Re:Parodies are great, but... by porcupine8 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Even when making a parody of a song, you must pay royalties on the original and you must obtain permission should you use any portion of the original mechanical. Coolio got all upset after Weird Al released Amish Paradise. Apparently, Al thought Coolio had given permission to parody Gangsta's Paradise, but he actually hadn't. But there wasn't really anything Coolio could do legally because it's a parody. Weird Al apologized but didn't exactly take the song off the market. He generally only does parodies if he gets permission out of respect for the artists, not because he's legally obligated to.

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  7. What does the DMCA have to do with this? by TheNinjaroach · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I thought the DMCA protected protection-schemes, not copyright law.. It's not like Walmart put copy-protection on the JPEGs. I didn't think the copyright would apply anyways, wouldn't this site be allowed fair use of the images? It's not like he's trying to compete with them.
    I still hate the DMCA..

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    1. Re:What does the DMCA have to do with this? by grungebox · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think it's a safe bet to include DMCA in any C&D letter. Even if it doesn't apply, it's a good legal scare tactic. Everyone's afraid of the DMCA.

    2. Re:What does the DMCA have to do with this? by SiliconEntity · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Right, the DMCA is not what makes this parody site a violation of copyright (if it is). That is a standard provision of other copyright law.

      The relevant part of the DMCA, in fact, is just the opposite. Sec 512, "Limitations on liability relating to material online" provides a means to ESCAPE liability for copyright violation. Specifically, it allows an ISP not to be held liable as long as it follows a certain procedure. The ISP has to publish an address for complaints; upon receiving a complaint from a copyright holder, it has to take down the material and notify the client who posted it; and then the client has the option to contest the takedown order, in which case the ISP has to put the material back up, absent a court order.

      This part of the DMCA is actually end-user- and ISP-friendly. Without it we would see much less support for possibly copyrighted materials appearing online.

  8. How to shoot yourself in the foot in three easy.. by Ckwop · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How to shoot yourself in the foot in three easy steps.

    1. Get annoyed at tiny web-site, which gets less than 400 hits a day, (Slashdot gets this traffic in 20 seconds.) which has the audacity to rubbish your brand-name.
    2. Send cease and desist letter to owner of domain and ISP.
    3. Finally, wait for the story to arrive in the main-stream where the site containing the slanderous speach is now linked to be all and sundry and the site now gets traffic upward of 20 hits a second.

    Simon.

  9. Walmart is in a world of hurt... by robyannetta · · Score: 2, Informative
    ...over this. Don't forget, parody is LEGAL:

    http://www.bc.edu/bc_org/avp/cas/comm/free_speech/ hustler.html

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  10. Look alike graphics would be OK. by Picass0 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If he hadn't leveraged any WalMart code or graphics he wouldn't have any problems. He could still do the site if he were to build a look alike from scratch. Some of the graphics he used were Wal-Mart property, and even in parody the use of their graphics would not be legally protected.

    1. Re:Look alike graphics would be OK. by bugg · · Score: 5, Informative
      I disgree- and in the interest of full disclosure, it's my website.

      The graphics are, granted, the hardest part to prove 'fair use' for, but there is still a fair use case to be made. That's not just my opinion, but also the opinion of the lawyers I have been in contact with.

      The graphics are not being distributed by themselves as such, rather, they are part of the website which is a larger work, and in my view, markedly different from the original. That makes it a derivative work, and as such, protected as 'fair use'.

      There is a lot of mistaken applications of other types of copyright law here. The big difference is I stand to make no financial gain, directly or indirectly, from this site. I don't owe royalties because I don't have profit. I don't need permission because it's fair use.

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    2. Re:Look alike graphics would be OK. by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Dude, you need to check that. Despite your claims of your site being "so absurd that it must be a parody", the truth is that it is very easy to confuse with the original. You used a domain name that's nearly the same, you appropriated trademarks (which aren't protected), you used the exact same graphics, etc., etc., etc. A "parody" that's easy to confuse with the original is not protected!

      Next time do a *good* job of it as call the site "Dull-Mart" or somesuch, and use a matching domain. Also ajust all the images so that they betray the intent of the site (i.e. a parody). Every last line should say something insightful or funny that it difficult to mix up with the original. Someone else pointed to this site as an example of how it should be done.

      Good luck.

    3. Re:Look alike graphics would be OK. by civilizedINTENSITY · · Score: 4, Informative
      http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?c ourt=us&vol=000&invol=U10426 U.S. Supreme Court

      CAMPBELL v. ACUFF-ROSE MUSIC, INC., ___ U.S. ___ (1994) [ Footnote 17 ]
      We note in passing that 2 Live Crew need not label its whole album, or even this song, a parody in order to claim fair use protection, nor should 2 Live Crew be penalized for this being its first parodic essay. Parody serves its goals whether labeled or not, and there is no reason to require parody to state the obvious, (or even the reasonably perceived).
    4. Re:Look alike graphics would be OK. by bugg · · Score: 2, Informative
      RTFA.

      Wal-Mart has not mentioned trademarks to date, nor have they sued me. They're using the DMCA, yet my case has strong arguments against copyright infringement based on fair use.

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  11. WalMart's Import Policy by bigtallmofo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It looks like WalMart imports more than just cheap goods created by virtual slave labor from China.

    Now they're further hurting our trade deficit by importing clamp-down tactics from the Chinese communist government!

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  12. Re:In Soviet Wal-Mart by CokeBear · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Apparantly, its not just Soviet Russia. It happens in the USA now too. Quite sad, actually, that the cold war was fought for 50 years against a totalitairan regime, only to win, and take on some of the elements of that regime ourselves.

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  13. Walmart by Manan+Shah · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I think Walmart gives an example of why 100% pure capitalism is a bad thing. Walmart tends to lower the standrd of living in many of the communities it moves in, and increases the unemployment rates. Even when their practices are perfectly legal, they tend to hurt many of the small businesses in the community. Free market, you say? Well, if 'free market' lowers the standard of living for so many people, then the concept is flawed. A lot of free market supporters use the same fervor as the socialists/communitsts do when defending their idealogy and fail to realize there is no such thing as a perfect system. I am still a Libertarian, but some Wal-Mart fan-boy's need to calm down and analyze exactly what they are supporting.

    1. Re:Walmart by 241comp · · Score: 4, Insightful

      To be honest, it's NOT WalMart that causes this (if it even really happens). It is the customers who do it to themselves. If we are all so price-conscious (read: cheap) that we shut down all the local shops in our home town... let's just say that we reap what we sow. The tragedy of the commons and all that jazz.

  14. Of course by PIPBoy3000 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Of course the student would want to draw attention to this. One person's "overblown" is another person's "needed publicity."

    I'm guessing that if this went to court, it would be thrown out as this site is fairly clearly a parody site. This allows considerable freedom in copying images, ideas, logos, and so on.

    Much like the Gone with the Wind publisher battling The Wind Done Gone, it can be fairly counterproductive for large corporations to try and fight these parodies. They do nothing but draw unwanted attention to their rather nasty behavior.

  15. Good censorship quotes by digitaldc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Literature should not be suppressed merely because it offends the moral code of the censor." ~ William Orville Douglas (1898-1980) US Supreme Court associate justice, 1935-75, professor of law at Yale
    "Censorship ends in logical completeness when nobody is allowed to read any books except the books that nobody can read." ~ George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950) British playwright & novelist
    "The Internet treats censorship as a malfunction and routes around it." ~ John Perry Barlow (1947-) Wyoming cattle rancher, a lyricist for the Grateful Dead
    "I believe in censorship. After all, I made a fortune out of it." ~ Mae West (1892-1980) American comedienne from "My Little Chickadee," 1940.
    "Censorship is almost systematically the weapon of first resort for governments in uncertain political situations. So not only are the famous writers and bold journalists in danger; at every level of public and private life, the freedoms to think, read or write are denied. In the absence of a free press, other human rights abuses flourish unabated. Nothing is reported, criticized, questioned. The example of imprisonment, torture or execution imposes a further silence. A blindly obedient mob mentality is encouraged, driven by extremist religious or ethnic loyalties. The citizens do not know what is happening. Fear and ignorance permeate discussion." ~ Marian Botsford Fraser
    "Censor: A self-appointed snoophound who sticks his nose in other people's business." ~ Bennett Cerf
    [quotes from zaadz.com]

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  16. Wrong on Song by Allen+Zadr · · Score: 3, Informative

    No... if you want to commercially MARKET a parody of a song, you must pay royalties and obtain permission. If you want to simply make a parody, and give it away - there's nothing to stop that (unless you find financial gain from that parody).

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  17. Is the Wal-Mart Foundation a legit non-profit? by Ktistec+Machine · · Score: 5, Interesting

    From the article: "An interesting aspect of the cease and desist is that it was signed by a lawyer who wrote that she was acting on behalf of Wal-Mart Stores, Inc. This statement unintentionally emphasizes one of the main points that my parody was trying to prove all along: The Wal-Mart "Foundation" is nothing more than a front group for Wal-Mart Stores Incorporated, and should not be confused for a real charitable non-profit."

  18. Shopping at Wal Mart... by Le+Marteau · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... always makes me feel cheap and sleazy. Like it's something I shouldn't be doing. One of the many reasons I like shopping at Wal Mart.

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  19. Re:How to shoot yourself in the foot in three easy by Evro · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wal-Mart does not care about this kind of bad PR. The people who would find this type of action detestable are not Wal-Mart's target demographic. Wal-Mart has continually eaten bags of poop in the mainstream media over their staunch opposition to unions and the way they've destroyed most mom-and-pop type stores, but this hasn't translated to lost sales for them, because the people who shop at Wal-Mart care about one thing, and one thing only: low prices. As long as this suit doesn't lead to higher prices, Wal-Mart will come out of it financially unscathed.

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  20. It isn't Boring Boring by PIPBoy3000 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well, it's not a particularly good parody perhaps. If I were doing it, I'd subtly change the images for amusement value.

    My latest favorite parody is Boring Boring, a parody of Boing Boing.

    How about we just give him a C+ for his school assignment and keep the lawyers out of it?

    1. Re:It isn't Boring Boring by VivianC · · Score: 2, Funny

      If his teacher has any sense, (s)he will sit the boy down and explain the tricky legal issues involved in doing a parody, and how to do it right.

      Sure because I always seek legal advice from art school teachers. You might have found a group that knows less about the law than most Slashdot posters.

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    2. Re:It isn't Boring Boring by bugg · · Score: 2, Informative
      The Labor Bingo Game was actually the inspiration to build the entire site. It was in the site- and prominently advertised on the front page- that was threatened by the DMCA.

      Just clarifying, in case anyone thought I added that after the takedown notice.

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  21. Re:Do the teachers at the lefty propaganda mills.. by meringuoid · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Is there any desire or reward for going against the left-wing groupthink that might naturally occur amongst art students?

    'Scuse me? You want professors to offer a reward - presumably, higher marks - for producing specifically right-wing propaganda?

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  22. Lefty or just tired of consumer-oriented everythin by digitaldc · · Score: 2, Insightful

    CHOOSING to shop at wal-mart, eat at McDonalds or believe in a mythical superbeing?
    Sometimes there is no choice, the town has one WalMart and the rest of the small businesses go under leaving you no choice in where to buy -or- you must travel far away to go to a small independent shop.
    Greed is the driving factor among everything these days, the competition is brutal and the labor is cheap....is this a lefty view? or just a rational one?

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  23. Re:I was under the impression... by Shalda · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Walmart is only objecting to the use of their logos, not the parody itself. This is a farily reasonable request. No one has actually been sued, WalMart simply had their lawyers send out a Cease and Desist letter. They probably send out several of them every day. WalMart is well within their rights to demand this. While the parody site was intending to make this look as much like an official WalMart site as possible, the can run afoul of trademark law. The right thing to do is to parody the WalMart graphics as well. Not a lawyer, but WalMart is probably in the right on this one.

  24. The DMCA is NOT piperazine by crovira · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The use of the DMCA in ANY expression of free speech is so bogus that attempting to use the courts for such purposes should result in the automatic suspension of the laywer's licence.

    The DMCA was NOT designed for the purpose of stifling free speech. (We have libel laws and slander laws for that. :-)

    Some humourless lawyer would argue that his client is afforded every protection of the law. I would argue that the DMCA is NOT a protection under the law.

    The case is like arguing that you can ONLY have ONE of anything. Reproduction of anything at anytime for any purpose would be outlawed.

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  25. Not to mention that Gangsta's paradise. by johnny+cashed · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is a rework of Stevie Wonder's Pastime Paradise. Who is taking from whom here? Of course, I'm sure Stevie was duly compensated.

    1. Re:Not to mention that Gangsta's paradise. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
      Who is taking from whom here? Of course, I'm sure Stevie was duly compensated.

      Maybe they were hoping he wouldn't see it.

  26. It's low wages that does this! by SwedishChef · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yes, people shop at Wal-Mart because of low prices but the reason they have to shop low prices is that their wages have gone down (in real terms) over the past 30 years.

    As an example, my wife graduated from HS in 1974 and her first job was at paper plant. The job was union and paid $7 per hour and worked 40 hours a week. This, mind you, for a HS grad with no college and no special skills in a small city north of Seattle. By the time she left that job (in 1980) she was making over $10 per hour and getting full medical.

    Then wages went into the toilet. Now kids are lucky to get a $7 job (at Wal-Mart) and work 20-hours a week.

    In 1974 you could buy a house ($35,000 for a 3br/2ba home in the Seattle area) with a $7/hour job. In 2005 houses there average $250,000. Try buying one of those right out of HS.

    So ya... people shop for cheap prices but only because we don't have much of a choice any more.

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  27. Re:If this parody is legal... by bugg · · Score: 4, Informative
    Clearly you've never visited my site. Unless you're suggesting you just looked at the pretty pictures, and didn't bother to read it.

    The text was flamingly obvious. I said things like (paraphrasing) "we're just undoing a very small portion of the damage we do to communities, because it promotes our image and is a great write-off."

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  28. SARCASM (for the humor impaired) by nutrock69 · · Score: 2, Funny

    - And rightly so. His First Amendment rights are being violated.

    Didn't you hear? The US government has officially declared that the first amendment must have been a "typo". They argue that it would have been easily edited out if they had used a program like Microsoft Word, but it wasn't so easy to edit once they had it down using ink and paper...

  29. It's *parody,* people by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Libel applies whereever you attribute something in writing to someone who does not hold that belief. It is always legally actionable.

    Check out the Flynt case, before the Supreme Court. Said libel also has to be *believable.* Hence, when Flynt published things about Falwell's mother's, ah, *taste*, it was found to be parody because no one in their right mind would believe it.

    That's kinda what parody is.

  30. No it doesn't by MattW · · Score: 2, Informative

    Deere & Co v MTD Products, Inc was a competitor modifying Deere's mark in a 'humorous' way in order to both mock and identify the competitor for commercial purposes. It was a commercial message rather than the social commentary that one generally envisions when one thinks of satirized protected marks.

    The Dallas Cowboys, Inc v Pussycat Cinema is, *again* a commercial case where "Debbie does Dallas" producers were enjoined from referring to the sports team in promotion of the film. Even trying to call that satire is a thin defense to begin with.

    There are 3 tests commonly used to test the use of a trademark, however, see L.L. Bean, Inc. v. Drake Pubs., Inc., 811 F.2d 26, 31, 33 (1st Cir. 1987), where the First Circuit court protects the use of a trademark against an antidilution claim almost solely on the basis of the use being noncommercial. To quote: "The Constitution is not offended when the [Maine] antidilution statute is applied to prevent a defendant from using a trademark without permission in order to merchandise dissimilar products or services. ... The Constitution does not, however, permit the range of the antidilution statute to encompass the unauthorized use of a trademark in a noncommercial setting such as an editorial or artistic context".

    See also:
    Yankee Pub. Inc. v. News America Pub. Inc., 809 F. Supp. 267, 279 (S.D.N.Y. 1992)
    Simon & Schuster Inc. v. Dove Audio Inc. 936 F. Supp. 156, 164 n.4 (S.D.N.Y. 1996)


    I don't see how the comments on libel are even relevant. The site was a parody and received a C&D only because of their use of trademarks. They did not allege libel, at least according to that story, and such a claim might also have to be evaluated in the context of political or social parody.

    *Anything* is always legally actionable; that doesn't mean the cause of action is likely to prevail, and Wal-Mart was certainly unlikely to prevail in this instance.

    This post is not meant to constitute legal advice; if you need advice for a specific legal situation, consult an attorney.

  31. Warms my heart by mark_jabroni · · Score: 2, Insightful
    After so many artists pushed for the DMCA (and other oppressive copyright laws) to be enacted, few things make me as happy as seeing an artist get crushed by the laws his fellows fought to create.

    But what I enjoy even most is when this leads to the conclusion that it's because of the powerful corporations that these sorts of evil things happen.

    This is the progressive circle of life. Progressives decide the establishment has a problem. Progressives pitch legislation that sucks to solve the problem. The legislation is enacted and then (shocker) it starts to suck. Progressives then use legislation sucking as proof that the establishment has a problem. Progressive pitch new legislation that sucks even more. Elton John starts singing ...

  32. Re:Microsoft Wipe (bad taste warning) by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 2, Funny

    If Microsoft made toilet paper, it wouldn't actually remove anything but merely spread it around until everything is covered with a uniform layer of feces. Just like Internet Explorer...

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  33. The wonders of inflation.... by isotope23 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Your post hits the primary problem our nation has, inflation.

    It is so sad that people in this country do not realize they are being ripped off. Under our current economic system, inflation screws the poor and middle classes. It is essentially a RECURRING tax on savings.

    For example : try putting in the 7.00 per hour wage from 1974, then compare it to today.

    $7.00 per hour in 1974 would be roughly equivalent to making $27.00 per hour today.

    But it gets worse. Any money you try to save, is also worth less over time. The interest you earn on a bank account needs to make at least the level of inflation just to stay the same in terms of purchasing power.

    It seems people are just plain clueless about how they are being royally screwed by the governments economic policies.

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  34. OK, can you spot the parody by hey! · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Won't many of them move on to providing layout and graphics for evil corporations?

    OK, check out the trademark at this site.

    Some artist decided to stick it to the man, however the man is so dense he hasn't noticed he was being mocked for, what, seventy years now?

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  35. Let's all sing along... by argent · · Score: 3, Funny

    D-M-C-A... just watch out for the D-M-C-A

    Young man, young man, are you listening to me?
    Young man, young man, even this parody is illegal.

  36. Re:not a huge deal by corran__horn · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yes, when I create a site that parodies people like you who post on slashdot (and the paranoid culture and driveling writing on slashdot), I can use the images from slashdot. I probably wouldn't do this, as you understood that you could be mistaken, but you were modded up to +3 informative while being mistaken.

    I must note that this only applies in the US, as parody is protected here, whereas it is not in other countries. See PubLaw for a better description. (I found this by google BTW)

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  37. Courts by DirtyFly · · Score: 2, Informative

    He, I used to believe that taking everything into court happened just on TV series ... guess I was WRONG. Wasn't it in ancient rome where lawyers couldnt receive payment for their services ?
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  38. Re:If this parody is legal... by bugg · · Score: 2, Informative

    Wal-Mart, so far, hasn't said anything at all about trademarks. The cease and desist sent to my ISP was a DMCA takedown notice, and was about copyrights. Haven't heard anything about trademarks yet. Use of copyrighted material- what they went after me for- is protected as 'fair use' for parody site, in my opinion (and also the opinions of some of the lawyers I have been in contact with).

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  39. walmart sucks by iowa119900089 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So I will not shop there. Target also sucks so I will not shop there either. It's amazing how I can find what I want off the internet or from a grocery store or smaller shops around town. It is easy not to shop at WalMart so why bitch and scream. Just don't go there.

  40. Scare tactics by edraven · · Score: 2, Interesting

    He wasn't forced to take down his website or change anything in it, as near as I can tell from the article. He was frightened into doing it. From my experience, lawyers for corporations first draft a scary letter telling you what they're going to do if you don't cease and desist. They send this letter regardless of whether they have any legal right to follow through on those threats for the simple reason that people who don't know their rights as well as a lawyer does will often back down. They assume that a lawyer knows the law and won't make threats they can't back up. But why litigate when you can mug some people through the mail?

    Back in the day, I put up a website called "The Saint Peterbilt Steel Erection Church of Christ". For reasons that are lost in obscurity. I received a C&D from lawyers representing Paccar, the company that owns Peterbilt Trucks. They claimed images on the page (which I had made myself) were similar to the Peterbilt logo, and they would take legal action to protect their trademark. Well, I panicked. Then I researched and found out what my rights are. Then I took a look at the images, and decided I could make them look nicer and at the same time a little less like the Peterbilt logo. That served both our purposes, so I went ahead and did it. Then I sent them a letter stating that the site was parody and therefore protected, that I'd made a concession in altering the images to make them less similar to the protected trademark, and that was pretty much all they were going to get. I offered to include a verbal disclaimer on the site if they felt there was a possibility people would get confused and think that Paccar Inc. was a sponsor or somehow affiliated with The Saint Peterbilt Steel Erection Church of Christ. Their response was, "No, that's fine." My site was down for all of... not at all.

  41. Why smart executives don't legally harass parody by Simonetta · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When a huge corporation promotes itself as having a 'cleaner-than-thou' image, and then muscles down on someone who mocks this image in a tiny inperceptable forum, they often will generate a backlash in the media; the alternative media if not the major outlets.

    Then the parody gets recognized far wider than it would have from its initial presentation. This brings recognition to the parodist and simulates discussion on the practices of the corporation and the contrasts between its business practices and its manufactured image. Smart business execs usually know this and will work to avoid publicity amplification. Walmart execs tend to be more mean than savvy.

    Perhaps the clearest example of this publicity effect is the Disneyland Orgy which would have disappeared as an urban legend if clueless Disney execs had not have gone batshit when it appeared and mounted a huge effort to destroy it. As you can see, it lives now on the web forever. It still is pretty funny.

  42. Freenet? by Fjornir · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I don't see a dump of this on TFE -- anyone have a copy they can insert?

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  43. It's more than just DCMA by unassimilatible · · Score: 2, Insightful
    They took all the images right off of the Wal Mart site. It's copyright violation, pure and simple, not "censorship."

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    1. Re:It's more than just DCMA by aphor · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That distinction only makes sense if there is a distinction between logos copied off the web site and logos faithfully reproduced by hand using some graphics software and a pen and tablet. Let's say they looked pretty recognisable, obviously referring to the retail giant, but they were a bit off in many dimensions, and they were an original work? Can a publisher or advertiser push DMCA on an artist if their work gets cut up and pasted into a collage?

      The real issue here is that the DMCA C&D adds more to the art than the simple act of parody! The "CENSORED" graphics are more demonstrative of conflict, which is the real purpose of the art anyway.

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    2. Re:It's more than just DCMA by m50d · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The US used to have this thing called "fair use" where copying that would otherwise be infringing for the purpose of parody was legal. Wonder what happened to that.

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    3. Re:It's more than just DCMA by Flendon · · Score: 2, Informative

      No it is a Fair Use parody. If that isn't obvious enough for you try Section 107. Limitations on exclusive rights: Fair use of the US copyright law:
      In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include -
      (1) the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;

      The site clearly falls into the nonprofit educational category.

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    4. Re:It's more than just DCMA by CritterNYC · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The US used to have this thing called "fair use" where copying that would otherwise be infringing for the purpose of parody was legal. Wonder what happened to that.

      The MAFIAA has successfully killed most fair use through technological methods coupled with laws like the DMCA. Add in a dose of SLAPPs (Strategic Lawsuits Against Public Participation) and the Walmarts of the world can do whatever the hell they want to you.

  44. DMCA Abused Yet Again by CodeBuster · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is yet another example of the DMCA being abused to silence legitimate free speech. If any more evidence was needed concerning the unintended consequences of this legislation then surely this most recent incident fits the bill. The DMCA has utterly failed in its intended effects, prevention of wholesale copyright infringement in the digital age, and it has manifested many negative side effects. The copyright infringement which is currently taking place on the file sharing networks is nothing that could not be prosecuted under pre-DMCA copyright law and any notion that hackers in Russia, China, and elsewhere give a damn about what US laws say about circumvention devices, or anything else for that matter, is living in la-la-land. Meanwhile the DMCA has been used to muzzle free expression, stifle innovation, intimidate researchers, negate fair use, impede competition, and browbeat technology companies. The DMCA has done nothing to advance the progress of useful arts and sciences in this country while causing tremendous collateral damage to free speech. The other problem with laws such as the DMCA, which is rarely mentioned, is that unjust, poorly written, and unfair laws breed contempt, even among otherwise law abiding citizens, for all laws and that is dangerous because it strikes against the barrier that separates civilized society from utter chaos and anarchy. One can only hope that the DMCA will eventually be struck down by the Supreme Court, but until that day most people will continue to ignore the unjust provisions of this legislation in the same way that they ignored prohibition and every other law which makes criminals out of honest and hard-working everyday Americans.

  45. You don't just list one factor by unassimilatible · · Score: 3, Informative
    All four factors must be analyzed, Mr. Jailhouse Lawyer.

    Another factor is the amount of the work used:

    3 - The amount and importance of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole;

    Fair use does not allow one to completely copy a Web site images and HTML, nor does non-profit or parody use completely exempt one from infringement liabilty.

    Man, you open-source fanatics really think people don't have any rights in their IP. Fortunately, the US Constitution and US Copyright law disagree.

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    1. Re:You don't just list one factor by Alsee · · Score: 2, Informative

      Fair use does not allow one to completely copy a Web site images and HTML

      In fact it does.

      You can go into business selling derivative copies under Fair Use.

      The law to which you reffer really only says one single thing with binding legal effect, and that is:
      the fair use of a copyrighted work [] is not an infringement of copyright.

      That law, secotion 107, really doesn't impose any other restrictions or limitations. The part I clipped out of the middle was a nonbinding list of examples of Fair Use. The part at the end, the four listed factors, those are also actually nonbinding. They are merely a list of four factors which shall be considered. The courts are free to consider other factors as well, and routinely do so. For example they often also consider whether a use is "transformative". The courts are also perfecly free to give the four listed factors absolutely zero weight compared to any other factor they choose to consider. You can in fact "fail" on all for factors and still be absolutely Fair Use, though it would obviously be an unusal result requiring a rather unusal situation.

      So all the it says as a matter of law is that the fair use of a copyrighted work is not an infringement of copyright. *If* something is Fair Use then all copyright restrictions are null and void. Absolutely anything and everything is permissible so long as it is indeed Fair Use.

      I haven't seen the student's original website, but based on the description is sounds like an absolutely clear cut case of fair use. It does not matter that he copied almost the entire thing if it was done as a parody, and the fact that he did so for a noncommercial purpose overwhelmingly weighs as Fair Use, and the fact that he did so for political / socially signifigant purpose makes it an an absolute slam dunk.

      Wal-Mart's absolutely abused the DMCA takedown procedure to rip first amendment protected speech off of the internet. It is such a flagrant abuse of the DMCA takedown process that Walmart may just be open to prosecution or countersuit. The standard to legally issue a DMCA takedown notice are insanely low, but they are not nonexistant.

      Man, you open-source fanatics really think people don't have any rights in their IP. Fortunately, the US Constitution and US Copyright law disagree.

      I suggest you study the constitution and copyright law, and most specifically the important Supreme Court cases on the subject. I can provide you with links to Supreme Court cases if you actually intend to read them. Cases where the Supreme Court explains there there is no inherent right to have a copyright, that the copyright holder only has the rights explicitly granted to him, explaining that there is no property right in the work itself - that it is the legal bundle of rights that is owned, that Fiar Use exists based on afirmative constitutional rights and that the copyright holder owns no rights in cases of Fair Use because congress does not have the power to create a law granting him rights over it.

      Copyright is a good and useful thing, but it is not property law and you'll get all of the law wrong if you take a backwards property view. To the extent that any work of authorship is 'property', it is fundamentally public property. The initial legal state is unrestricted, public domain. The Constitution allows congress to temprarily take certain rights to it away from the public and grant them to the copyright holder. Violating the rights the copyright holder was granted is indeed copyright infringment. The copyright holder was not granted - and could not be granted - any rights over Fair Uses. Figuring out what is or is not Fair Use can certainly be a complex issue, but you can't even begin to address the issue if you start from a backwards "IP" model view that the work itself is some sort of natur

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  46. Re:Unfortunately.... by Xepherys2 · · Score: 3, Informative

    This link to Cornell University's Law School site states (from US Code):

    107. Limitations on exclusive rights: Fair use

    Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A, the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include--

    (1) the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;

    (2) the nature of the copyrighted work;

    (3) the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and

    (4) the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.
    The fact that a work is unpublished shall not itself bar a finding of fair use if such finding is made upon consideration of all the above factors.

    So in this case, it was not used commercially and parody is a form of criticism, which is protected as fair use... how was he in violation again?

  47. One solution by polyex · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I see all this arguing going back and forth about whether what Wal-Mart is doing is legal or not. As if the legality of this issue means anything to you as an individual. People have taken action in the past regardless of whether what they were protesting was currently legal (remember segregation?). If you do not like what Wal-Mart is doing, stop shopping there. Use the golden rule.Stop giving them YOUR money to enable Wal-Mart to do things that you do not like. And stop finding excuses to go there and buy more crap than you really do not need in the name of convenience for you. Take a week away from Wal-Mart and encourage others to do the same, thats your strongest power as an individual.