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Kevin Rose Leaving G4 to start Internet Only Show

Quantum Jim writes "Kevin Rose, one of the famous contributors and co-hosts of The Screen Savers, is leaving this week to concentrate on a new technology howto show called Systm. The Systm will be an internet-only show distributed free (as in beer AND speech) in a number of formats: Theora, Xvid, WMV, H.264, and PSP (what's that?). There will be bittorrent trackers available too! If only I had broadband..."

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  1. Best of luck to him... by th3space · · Score: 5, Interesting

    God knows that he and Morgan Webb were the only things worth watching on that sinking ship of a channel...

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    1. Re:Best of luck to him... by xlr8ed · · Score: 5, Funny

      he and Morgan Webb were the only things worth watching

      You're half right

    2. Re:Best of luck to him... by Fizzlewhiff · · Score: 3, Insightful

      TSS's decline started when Kevin Rose came aboard. He might not have been the cause of it but I've always associated him with the decline. Just give me Leo, Patrick, and Meagan's download of the week with an occasional bit with Martin Sargent and I'll be happy.

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    3. Re:Best of luck to him... by OmegaBlac · · Score: 2
      Thats not saying much really. Before G4 took over I could see the channel was going downhill by itself & fast. The two of them(Webb & Rose) were just one of the many obvious signs that, IMHO, why the channel was sinking in the first place.

      Morgan, transferring over to X-Play from TSS to co-host with Sessler, was an obvious move to bring some "eye-candy" to X-Play and grab more ratings from the 13-26 age crowd that TechTV was aiming for at the time. I can't stand her, she is annoying. Where was the Morgan that was on TSS? There seems to have been a total transformation of Ms. Webb after she began hosting duties at X-Play. Was she drinking the same coffee Adam drinks? I don't know. I won't comment on Kevin R. as I have expressed my dislike for him enough on throughout the world wide web.

      With TechTV filling their lineup with crappy Jap anime(are they competeing with Cartoon Network?) and junkyard robots attempting to wail on eachother who could not see that TechTV wasn't already a sinking ship back then? TechTV's golden age was when it was ZDTV; that was when it was a real geek channel! p/P

    4. Re:Best of luck to him... by mattkinabrewmindspri · · Score: 2, Informative

      That's not what he said on this week's TWIT.

  2. Its about time! by ghstomahawks · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Its due time for the web to get a real TV show! We all know that it's the media of the future!

    1. Re:Its about time! by dtk13 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yea its deffnatly time for a push with internet tv. If it gets enough attention it should spur on a whole revolution. Kinda like the whole podcasting thing...

    2. Re:Its about time! by ViolentGreen · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm wondering how he is going to make a living on this. Is he getting sponsorship or something?

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    3. Re:Its about time! by Rber0 · · Score: 3, Informative

      I do believe he plans on selling advertising space within the program. That's what he announced on the TWIT podcast (This Week In Tech)

    4. Re:Its about time! by Golias · · Score: 2, Funny

      Of course, the problem is that anybody who knows how to get this show doesn't really need a "howto" show about computer technology.

      Perhaps he should have done a show on how to meet girls or something.

      Just a thought.

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    5. Re:Its about time! by Mozk · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's sad that people pay attention to other's personal lives, people they don't even know. And especially them.

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    6. Re:Its about time! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Step 3: Debt?!?!

  3. Of course he is leaving... by forceflow2 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    He knows how bad things have gotten (as if they could get any worse...) and is leaving to pursue bigger and better things that everyone knows he can. If only he could call up Leo and Patrick and have them help out...that would be excellent.

    1. Re:Of course he is leaving... by thiefius · · Score: 5, Informative

      They've already gotten together as of recently to do the podcast, "This Week in Tech." http://thisweekintech.com/

    2. Re:Of course he is leaving... by nuggetman · · Score: 2, Informative

      If only he could call up Leo and Patrick and have them help out...that would be excellent.

      Leo, Patrick, Kevin, and occasionally Roger, Yoshi, and some others have been doing a weekly Podcast called This Week in Tech... TWiT site

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    3. Re:Of course he is leaving... by the_2nd_coming · · Score: 2, Funny

      and leo should lose 30 pounds and die his hair.

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  4. he forgot this...! by bogaboga · · Score: 2

    He forgot this [java] technology. I consider it a serious contender based on Java. Slashdotters, point your browsers to http://stream.fluendo.com/demo/office/audiovideo/j ava.php to see what I am talking about.

    1. Re:he forgot this...! by labratuk · · Score: 4, Informative

      why on Earth would anybody want to choose a format like Fluendo that is hardly known?

      Fluendo is not a codec. Fluendo is a company that builds products using gstreamer. One of their products is an implementation of the theora and vorbis decoders in java. So people can watch live streams without installing anything. If they really want to. The streams themselves are usually just theora streams.

      You've both rather misunderstood what this java player is about.

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  5. G4 must suck behind the scenes too by yotto · · Score: 4, Insightful

    To give up a job to publish free (as in everything) show on the web, that means he's either got cajones the size of bowling balls or his job absolutely sucked.

    I'll give this show a shot, and may even not block the ads (if there are any)

    1. Re:G4 must suck behind the scenes too by LostCluster · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually, Kevin said in today's This Week in Tech podcast that the "Dark Tipper" character wasn't one he created for himself, it was an image created by Paul Block, the at-the-time executive producer of TSS. He'd rather be the producer setting up the segments Leo and Patrick did...

    2. Re:G4 must suck behind the scenes too by Saiyine · · Score: 2, Funny

      cajones the size of bowling balls

      You've said that he has very big lockers. I suppose you meant cojones.

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  6. Will he by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Only make 3 episodes before giving up, like his last attempt, The Broken?

    1. Re:Will he by MoonBuggy · · Score: 4, Informative

      To be honest I'd forgotten about The Broken until a newsletter dropped into my inbox from their site about half an hour ago. Looks like it's not as dead as we thought:

      When is thebroken episode 4 coming out?

      After several weeks of lawyer negotations with G4 (my 9-5 job), they have agreed to release me from my contract. Friday May 27th 2005 marks my last day on the G4 network. That means we are focusing on thebroken / Systm FULL TIME! We are starting to plan the next episode of thebroken now, and we'll send out another update as we get closer to the release! Now that this is our full-time job, expect to see many more video releases coming your way!

  7. Too cool for vowels. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Kevin Rose is too cool for vowels. Pretty soon he'll have his name changed to Kvn Rs. That shit's leet.

  8. so whatever happened to... by remove+office · · Score: 2, Interesting
  9. Screensavers podcast by slapout · · Score: 5, Informative

    Fans of the old TechTV show "The ScreenSavers" might want to check out Leo Laporte's podcasts. He makes his radio show available. He has also gotten together with some people from the old show and they do a podcast called This Week in Tech.

    http://www.leoville.com/
    http://thisweekintech.com/

    also see Dan Huard's take on TechTV:
    http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/01/01/172523 0&tid=129

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    1. Re:Screensavers podcast by slapout · · Score: 4, Informative

      Here's a copy of his 'take':

      Life as a TechTV/G4 Employee

      A lot of people ask, "what was it like to work at TechTV and ultimately at G4?" I have to say, for the most part, the experiences were amazing at both places. They each had their positives and negatives. So, I've decided to shed a little light on what exactly I did at TechTV and G4. Basically, this post will explain what my typical work day was like.

      As an intern, I worked very typical intern jobs at a television studio. I got in before anyone did at TechTV, which was generally between 7:00 and 7:30am. Most of my work was for Megan Morrone. I did a lot of screen captures from websites, CDs, DVDs, etc. I remember one screen capture she asked me to do regarding something about NPR and September 11th. I remember this pretty well because I was so stupid. This was during the time TSS was using the CFH set while the new set was being built. She wanted me to capture some video of the sounds of 9/11. I totally misinterpreted what she wanted and captured all of the horrible, heart wrenching sounds as the trade centers fell, people screaming, etc. She was looking for more G-rated material like songs dedicated to all the victims, etc. It was just a stupid intern mistake. I also want to mention that Megan is one of the nicest people I've ever met. She was always good to me and very patient as I made those 'stupid intern mistakes.'

      I was also behind the scenes teleprompting. Let me tell you how difficult it was to scroll a prompter for Leo and Patrick. They rarely read it, especially the news section. There's definitely a script for them to read but they're so good and comfortable in front of a camera they don't even bother. Truthfully, the only bits they'd read were the teases. Teases are when a segment ends and the talent says something like "coming up after the break..." It was necessary they read the teases explicitly because we would have specific video or images that corresponded with the read.

      I did tons of odd jobs as well. One time, I remember traveling to Berkeley with ex-TSS Series Producer, Ken Marquis. We went to pick up a huge telestrator TV. I'm sure all you TSS fans remember that giant TV Leo and Pat would use during "The Real Deal." Ken and I picked up a U-Haul truck and ventured over to the place to pick it up. There were a couple problems. First, it was heavy and second, it was just Ken and I. Needless to say, Ken threw out his back but we got it in. Third, the TV was not secure in the truck. So, like a good starving intern I volunteered to jump in there with the TV. This is completely illegal, but I insisted. I was trying everything I possibly could to get a job. To Ken's credit, he said no and it wouldn't affect my chances for a job. I did it anyways. There was barely any air in there except for a few holes and it was hot as hell. So I took my shirt off climbed near the very small air holes so I could breathe. Luckily, it all went well except for Ken's back. I'm sure its fine now.

      My typical work day as a Production Assistant (PA) changed dramatically from the intern position. Now, I was in charge of all the computers on the set for TSS. I had to maintain and upgrade them on a regular basis. Anytime you heard audio from a computer I had to run audio lines to the control room. Also, whenever you saw a full screen of a computer, it was my job to run the video (scan lines) to the control room. I was in charge of the daily tech setup, as well. This meant I'd have to acquire info from each of the segment producers to see what they technically needed for the show. It was never really difficult; there was just a lot to do. My jobs ranged from getting Megan's Downloads of the Day set up to setting up Linux boxes for demonstrations.

      Another job I was given were the bumps. I'm sure you all remember these. They were little Windows, Mac, and Web tips that Megan, Morgan, Sarah, or Jessica would do. They used to be pre-produced with Megan's voice over (which Morgan

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    2. Re:Screensavers podcast by CySurflex · · Score: 3, Informative

      Thats not Kevin Rose's take, this post is taken from a blog entry by Dan Huard, who was the guy that answered phones. I just love all the misinformation on Slashdot.

  10. Re:The important question is . . . by HABITcky · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'd hit it.

  11. Kevin Rose a TWIT by mbrewthx · · Score: 2, Informative

    Kevin is also doing a pod cast along Leo and some of the other guys from the old TEchTV.
    You can get it at www.thisweekintech.com
    they call it TWIT, very good. Looking forward the relase of Systm tonight. systm.org

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  12. ThisWeekInTech by ARRRLovin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you like the old Screensavers, you'll love the "This Week In Tech" podcast. It's all the old TSS folk talking about what they like to talk about. No more lame "which broadband router is the best blah blah" crap. Just good ol' fashioned geeks talkin about cool shit.

    www.twit.tv

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  13. Leo Laporte by Teja · · Score: 4, Informative

    I liked Kevin quite a bit, but Leo used to be my favorite. You can download quite a few of Call For Help episodes via bittorent over here. I'm off to download. :)

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  14. techno by LinkDJ · · Score: 5, Funny

    the systm.. is down..
    the systm.. is down..

  15. Latest Dialogue with Kevin's mom. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Mom: So kevin, how's your job at the Sceensavers?

    K: I don't work there any more?

    Mom: What?

    K: I'm doing something new!

    Mom: What's that?

    K: I'm a PODCASTER!

    Mom: A Broadcaster? That's nice.

    K: NO.. POD caster.. POD as in iPod!

    Mom: You sell ipods?

    K: No..

    Mom: What's it got to do with Ipods?

    K: well, they can listen to my new show on ipods.

    Mom: Oh.. that's nice.
    Does it pay more?

    K: It's a new venture, I expect to generate revenue from ads.

    Mom: So, you have advertisers lined up?

    k: Um..

    Mom: Are you making any money yet?

    k: Um...

    Mom: what's with all the stuff you moved into my basement? You're not moving in there are you?

    K: Um..

    Mom: And what's with that microphone? Could you get it out of my face, I'm trying to talk to you?

    k: *runs* OK peeps, stay tuned to my next podcast, brought to you buy Redbull, Vodka, and our biggest sponsor.. Mom!

  16. Hopefully Sarah Lane stays behind... by Z-Knight · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I'm hoping she doesn't follow ... those two need to get a damn hotel room and get their frustrations out once and for all, instead of flirting continuously on-air...geez

    Here's also hoping that the new show is actually is actually any good...the last few months of The ScreenSavers/Attack of the Crappy Show have had about 3 minutes of actual computer related stuff covered in them. Thanks to all of the geniuses at G4...good job on getting rid of Leo Laporte and Patrick Norton, they obviously were too good so you replaced them with the obviously "better" (NOT!) younger hosts that did nothing but waste my hour!

  17. Re:kevin is a tool. by gremlins · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Your insightful argument is very intresting with all the sources you cited to prove your point...

    However let me try if I can rebut your claim anyway. You say that Kevin Rose is a "tool". The defention of tool as an insult is used when describing someone who is being manipulated without their knowledge - implying they are naïve and ignorant. Now I don't think that Kevin Rose matches any of those points. He knows what he is doing and is neither being exploited or manipulated. In fact he is rather taking the bull by the horns at it were and attempting to start a Online Television company producing shows reminiscent of the old TechTV days.

    Now that I gave you the smart ass answer I will go alittle more into what I think you really mean by calling him a tool, which is he is a "poser" and does not possess the true elite computer hacker skills that you think are important.

    Now don't get me wrong I am not Kevin Rose fanboy although I am defending him here. I do think he does a pretty good job with production value and quality of the shows he is on, either it be thebroken or the old Screen Savers. Does that mean that anyone who wants to have a tech show has to be one of the most elite computer users on the planet before they get your approval? I hope not because I have been following around online telvision shows for a while and I got to say that the ones with the most elite people as the stars suck. And the reason that is because the most elite people for the most part do not know how to be a good television host. Their camera angles are all off, the lighting always sucks and I get better sound listening to AM radio. I don't want an "elite computer hacker" running the shows I watch. I want those people in the background comming up with the content and handing it off to people like Kevin Rose who can actually present the information in a worth while format.

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  18. Re:PSP by IANAAC · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's not the video format that's messing you up. It's the naming format. Just change the name to whatever.mp4 and you should be able to play it on any other portable, etc.

  19. "Real" Dark Tips with Kevin Rose by PhatboySlim · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've always been a fan of the screen savers but some of the newer people on the show are complete idiots. I'm glad to see he is going out on his own.

    My favorite segment had to be the dark tips where Kevin would show how to hack XBOX, sniff network data, ect. Now that this segment will no longer be FCC controlled, I would imagine the segments may be much more interesting.

    He may not be far off by going on his own either - MSNBC has an article linked from the msn.com homepage on the proliferation of InternetTV and it's niche market capability.

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    1. Re:"Real" Dark Tips with Kevin Rose by ayeco · · Score: 2

      Since when is G4 "FCC controlled"?

    2. Re:"Real" Dark Tips with Kevin Rose by alc6379 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      My favorite segment had to be the dark tips where Kevin would show how to hack XBOX, sniff network data, ect. Now that this segment will no longer be FCC controlled, I would imagine the segments may be much more interesting.

      I could agree with you, but he only did stuff like this once there was some oh-so-1337 script-kiddie approach to it. Once the "real" security and hacking (hacking as in modding) scenes laid the groundwork and then made some nice t001z to use, then he'd be on the screen showing how 133t he was by typing a URL into a text box and then hitting a button. That's not interesting to me-- maybe mildly so, if I didn't know how to use TCPdump, or nmap already.

      Many have stated this before, but he's nothing more than a script kiddie. If he's doing it, someone else is doing it, or has done it, and they're doing it with far more skill and insight.

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  20. Termination of Contract by SphericalCrusher · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Well, actually he was fired, he just didn't up and leave. But still, even though this was not too surprising, it's really wierd what Comcast has done to the once TechTV. Damn them.

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    1. Re:Termination of Contract by LostCluster · · Score: 2, Informative

      Although the exact terms weren't released, it seems to be implied that Kevin actually had to "buy his way out" of his contract, as he refers to needing lawyers involved to get the contract terminated.

  21. Re:The important question is . . . by MsGeek · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I mean, a hot chick that's into computers... how often does that happen?

    Michaela Pereira, who was the anchor on the TechTV nightly news program, seemed to be genuinely interested in tech. She is continuing with her tech interests on the KTLA Morning News...she seems to have a genuine knowledge and love of it. And yes, she's cute.

    Soledad O'Brien, who was the original host of The Site on first MSNBC, then ZDTV, also seemed to be genuinely interested in technology. I seem to remember she was also on a syndicated tech program before that. She's now on CNN and apparently no longer on the tech beat. Pity. I haven't seen her show (it airs very early PDT) but I seem to remember she was fairly attractive.

    Then again, I'm a hetero female and should qualify my opinions on female pulchritude accordingly.

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  22. IRC Channel by MHobbit · · Score: 2, Informative

    Now that the site's apparently back up for the time being, at 8:00PM PST, the first episode of Systm will be released... the IRC channel that you may want to join is located on the irc.dslextreme.com server, in the #systm channel.

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    1. Re:IRC Channel by OZLORD · · Score: 2, Informative

      down again as of 8:08PM

  23. Re:The important question is . . . by Master+Ben · · Score: 2

    Asia Carrera is still my favorite hot geek.

  24. Thanks a lot, Slashdot. by Guspaz · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Gee, thanks for posting about this on the front page of Slashdot. Whereas before, those of us who cared enough to be on the mailing list were going to download the first episode tonight. Now that it's slashdotted, nobody is going to get the first episode tonight.

    Slashdot didn't even have the courtesy to run their links through the Coral CDN. Nice.

  25. Mailing list post by FlyingBlind13 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Just got this mail from Systm:

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    thebroken newsletter
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    Systm release tonight!
    From the creators of thebroken comes a new downloadable tech show: "Systm" (pronounced system). While Systm is a general interest HOW-TO show, thebroken will continue to have 40'z and hacking ;)

    Episode #1 will be released tonight at 8:00PM PST! To celebrate, we will be throwing a house party starting at 6:00PM. We'll fire up our live webcam of the festivities along with an IRC chat room. Chat with Kevin, Dan, Keith and Ron (systm/thebroken crew) along with other TechTV staffers (Leo, Pat, Yoshi, Martin, Alex, and others (Ramzi) have all been invited).

    Visit the website now: http://systm.org/

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    When is thebroken episode 4 coming out?

    After several weeks of lawyer negotations with G4 (my 9-5 job), they have agreed to release me from my contract. Friday May 27th 2005 marks my last day on the G4 network. That means we are focusing on thebroken / Systm FULL TIME! We are starting to plan the next episode of thebroken now, and we'll send out another update as we get closer to the release! Now that this is our full-time job, expect to see many more video releases coming your way!

    More info:
    http://www.kevinrose.com/
    http://systm.org/

    - thebroken crew

  26. Re:Please leave, thanks. by alc6379 · · Score: 2, Funny
    Perhaps I should have posted AC, but I wear my current 30% Flamebait, 30% Insightful, 20% Troll moderation with pride. My gripe isn't so much with Kevin, per se, but the popularity of his kind-- so much fluff, so little obvious technical knowledge. I'd much rather hear a discussion on the technical merits of PCI-E vs older architectures, rather than seeing some d00ds trip out over a case modded out with a glow-lightning static ball, or pimped-out with the latest blowhole cutting and side window etching.

    While that might be cool to some, there are "cooler" things in my book. Why waste time on lame "Dark Tips" like setting a system's floppy drive on fire, or why a CD-ROM with some obscure 1337-h4X0r bootable distro is more "deviant" than another 1337-h4X0r on a floppy, just because it can go through a metal detector? Why not talk about how many great bootable Linux distros there are out there that could actually have you be productive, rather than just have some kind of 1337 factor? That's just an example, though.

    But, he does represent to me the stripping away of what little of TechTV/ZDTV was left. Back then, every show was informative, even the shows that were somewhat silly. Never once would you have seen some dorks lighting a floppy drive on fire be labelled a "Tip", and never would you see a commercial with some chick's ass shaking to advertise the new "my ricer is pimped out" show.

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  27. Direct Video Links by LogicX · · Score: 2, Informative

    For those of you not wanting to deal with torrents, Here's some links from a handful of dedicated boxes, each can push 100Mbit/sec:

    http://fpux.com/systm/systm--0001--warspyingbox--l arge.xvid.avi

    http://mirror.fpux.com/systm/systm--0001--warspyin gbox--large.xvid.avi

    http://mirror2.fpux.com/systm/systm--0001--warspyi ngbox--large.xvid.avi

    http://mirror3.fpux.com/systm/systm--0001--warspyi ngbox--large.xvid.avi

    In case I have to update these URLs, see the post on my blog: http://fpux.com/

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  28. Review of Episode 1: Post subsequent below by karldavidson · · Score: 2, Insightful

    War spying is not a new topic for them. Do not regurgitate the same old stories in a new format. Myself having a 2 year associate's degree in electronics and working as a network engineer for the last 8 years I am not impressed. (not that I have bragging rights for that!)

    Shoot higher. Intelligent leaders surround themselves with those that are smarter than themselves. As journalists, use your talents to search out people with skills higher than your own in the topics you are covering and use your journalist skills as a rosetta stone for the rest of us. Pardon the reference, but hosts of cooking shows pretend they do not know what they are doing when they have guests on to facilitate the knowledge transfer from the presenter to the viewer.

    Why lock yourself into one topic (war spying) that so many people may not find an interest in? That is the content of the whole episode? Nobody cares f you do not have a set. This was your coming out party, seek a large audience. Make it look like more than a college project. At this point you are actually an experienced journalist. Use your skills and do not just report, Produce! I think this could take off, but only with hard work and dedication.