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U.S. Scientists Create Zombie Dogs
Alex_Ionescu writes "U.S. scientists have managed to revive dead dogs to life, by using a technique similar to cryogenation, in which the dogs' blood was drained and replaced by a cold, saline liquid. A couple of hours, their blood was replaced, and an electric shock brought them back to life with no brain damage. The technology will be tested on humans within the next year."
The article is somewhat light on facts. From what I recall, during drowning or suffocation, brain damage occurs in humans quite soon (10 minutes?). How is it that this process negates the lack of oxygen to the brain, allowing no damage to occur? Is it the temperature of the liquid used for replacing the blood?
Also, the article has "Although the animals are clinically dead, their tissues and organs are perfectly preserved." followed immediately by "Damaged blood vessels and tissues can then be repaired via surgery." So, which is it?
I suppose we'll have to wait for a real scientific journal to publish this before we find out much more.
Also, another attempt at hibernation, this time in mice, using a different method involving hydrogen sulfide gas.
The technology will be tested on humans within the next year.
.. and after the testing they will become slashdot editors.
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Oh man... I can see the flood of Resident Evil jokes now...
I've heard stories of Keith Richards doing this sort of thing since the '70s.
The Russians did the same thing in 1940.
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From what I understand, the dogs can't fetch very far either.
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The Good: Zombie dogs are much slower than the normal kind.
The Bad: Normal dogs will not attempt to eat your juicy, delicious brain.
I really didn't need that bloody Cujo-esque picture to go with that article, especially when it's late at night and I'm five minutes off of going to bed.
The picture that comes with the article sure makes this whole process look really appealing. It reminds me of the picture that the local news station shows when there is any asteroid in the news (a huge moon-sized rock hitting the earth). Aren't stock pictures great?
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How do we know if the dog didn't suffer brain damage? Did this new super dog talk and say wow i got away with no brain damamamaamamamamage.
The Safar Center was doing these experiments successfully in 1996.
I have no idea if they've recently done yet another incrementally longer period of exsanguination, as the article doesn't mention the time or a journal article name or anything.
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It seems to me this is just an artificial way of creating a cold water drowning. People are often revived after long periods without oxygen in near freezing water. Leading to the rescue mantra "your not dead until your warm and dead".
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This is a follow-on to an article in Scientific American this month. Interestingly enough, the article concluded that cells stay viable just fine in very high or very low oxygen environments. It's the transition stage that causes all the damage.
Hence the reason for injecting saline -- it takes the oxygen-carrying blood out of the tisses almost immediately, which is what you want to do. The SA article authors said this seems a little extreme to use in humans, and I agree. They've had some success with mice using Hydrogen Sulfide, I think, mixed in with air. Also, surgery for animals that are "dead" brings in a whole new line of specialties that we haven't developed yet. This is going to be a fascinating area to watch, imo.
I can't find anything on the web corroborating this story. Even the official site of Safar Center for Resuscitation Research, the institute metioned in TFA has nothing about this.
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An "unnamed US battlefield doctor" is quoted?
No medical journal publication?
No details?
Unknown "research" center?
READY TO TEST ON HUMANS IN A YEAR? BULLSHIT. Never would happen. Not in a year, not from one dinky study.
And cold blood would damage the tissues. And I can't imagine how the dog's mind would survive intact, but that's just me.
Talk about extreme punishment ...
I can just see death penalty advocates jumping all over this - "See, we'll just keep everyone we execute on ice for a couple of decades, so that if we've made a mistake we can fix it, sort of."
And now we can torture terrorists to death - and beyond. Look out, Buzz Lightyear!
Nothing these scientists have done defies the laws of nature. Got that? No laws were broken! The scientists have merely "time shifted" the animals, which is perfectly permissible under Fair Use.
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You'd have to really know a dog well (and observe its sensory and motor skills, note its emotional stability, and have a sense of its habits) before subjecting it to this sort of process. And then you'd have to pursue the dog's regular activities afterwards and note the changes. Anyone who has lived with a bright, energetic dog can tell you instantly if the animal is "off" in some way. Just like you'd notice it in your child. Now, longer-term issues, who knows. Like, would some degenerative, trauma-induced thing (something Alzheimers-ish) kick in later? No way to know. But no matter how good your brain scans or other imaging techniques may be, these are complex animals, and long-time handler/owner could tell you if you'd dropped a couple of circuits along the way.
Why would you want to freeze someone indefinately? Let's go for a Sci-Fi answer since we're dealing with a near-Sci-Fi topic. Let's say that you've got the aging examples of some really prize breedings from a particular bloodline (I'm talking dogs here). And then, something ugly not unlike hoof-and-mouth, or bird flu starts turning in a species-specific pandemic. If I were a breeder that had been perfecting a bloodline for 50 years, I'd seriously consider taking a couple of those dogs and letting them have A Big Nap.
For a lot of breeders, they love the individual dogs, but their truly beloved "pet" is the bloodline out of which they spring. Generations (of human lives) go into creating something as unique as a specialized dog (or bull, or chicken), so ways to put them on ice for later revival once a viral or other threat has been understood (or a vaccine developed) could be very compelling.
I'd say all the same things about humans, but I'd be very Politically Incorrect at that point, so of course I won't.
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they could just pay them a whole lot of money.
A lot of people would take the risk if it meant being a multi-millionaire.
Even more of there spuse gets them money wether or not the person survives.
I mean, live in squalar, knowing you can't give the best to your kids, ort die but knowing your kids will be able to bebetter taken care of?
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I wonder if they can equip these zombie dogs with bees in their mouths and when they bark they shoot zombie bees at you.
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Now, for all of you who do not believe in a soul, just pretend. When the body of a human goes through this process, when does the soul leave the body? What if it's already gone by the time the body is reanimated? Does it get yanked back from the nether regions, or does it stay - creating a soul-less human? I'm not trying to start a religious flamewar. I'm just asking a question. Is the soul tied to the flesh, and to what degree? Would this procedure have an effect on the soul?
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7C is enough for many pathogenic microorganisms
so if you do this long enough, watch the infections
During the procedure blood is replaced with saline solution at a few degrees above zero. The dogs' body temperature drops to only 7C, compared with the usual 37C, inducing a state of hypothermia before death.
I've been involved in cryobiology since I did my Masters in it. back in 2001 Pretty cool stuff. Heh. (Thanks, I'll be here all night!)
/., I might help us get the second half of the equation.
Anyways...
I'm really fascinated by the metaphysical meanings of all this. Imagine that we froze a dog and brought it back to life (Hey, we just DID that, didn't we? Or pretty close, at least). Dog comes back, everything is hunky-dorey, he wags his tails, just like he used to, eats the same food as before, and still doesn't know not to pee on the carpet.
Understand that at LN2 temp, -197C, the only appreciable reaction is due to cosmic rays. We're talking EONS here. If it's that cold, it's dead. Dead, dead, dead. Not living anymore. This sets the stage for my philosophical question.
Imagine that we freeze a human. Human's just as dead as the dog. We reanimate him/her/it, and then... two possibilities. 1) Same thing as with the dog, human comes back, harty and hale. 2) Body comes back, but the brain refuses.
Isn't this a proof for the (non) existence of the soul? If the human comes back to life, that means the soul never left. Now, unless you're going to start some twisted, "Yeah, but god KNEW this one was coming back to life so he didn't take his soul... Hey, look 4800 year-old dinosaurs!" argument, you pretty much have to admit that the soul doesn't exist, or at least doesn't go away when you die. Because, let's admit it, frozen at -197C is just as dead as being blown to smythereens or having your heart stopped by the last (ultimate?) Big Mac you ate.
If the human DOESN'T come back, that pretty much proves that there is something special inside only humans that we lose the moment when we die, i.e. the soul.
So I'm really excited to see the first half of the data is in. Dogs live after death. They have no souls, at least not in the way we imagine them. Now, if only I'd work a little harder instead of reading
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(w) - saline liquid
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On Sunday morning I was playing tennis with an older man I met in an online league. He was turning around to pick up a ball and he suffered a major heart attack and collapsed. His heart stopped for about 10 minutes on the tennis court while a girl from the court next to us performed CPR. He's in a coma in an ICU right now. The doctors said that stabilizing his heart is a primary concern right now, but that in the coming days discerning any damage done to his brain due to oxygen loss will become a primary concern.
One of the things the doctor told us was that they were going to actually induce hypothermia in him while he is in the ICU. Recent studies have provided evidence that doing so may limit the brain damage caused by the loss of oxygen to the brain. Of course, in his case, it was extremely important (and fortunate) that CPR was started soon after his heart stopped, thus limiting the loss of oxygen to his brain.
Hopefully studies like this will lead to more treatments which help people recover from heart failure.
Sweet zombie Jesus, how can you tell if a dog has brain-damage anyhow? They already eat their own shit if you don't stop them.
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Underwater for 45 minutes and made a full recovery. Water was obviously very cold.
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Necromancy originally meant something like "divining by use of the dead" such as summoning the spirit of an ancestor to ask about an important matter. Necro (Death) + Mancy (Divination). I guess though seances would qualify under this definition.
Reanimating the dead was placed into this category much later, though beliefs about this practice....
As a completely off-topic side-note, William Butler Yeates (the Nobel Prize-winning poet) was kicked out of the Theosophical society for experiments in necromancy. He was trying to summon the spirits of dead flowers.
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And I think that meets most any test for being medically unethical. I'm sure there's people willing to do it for a ton of money, but that doesn't make it right.
The FDA has to approve any medical studies conducted in the US. There's absolutely no way they'd approve a study of perfectly healthy people that are subjected to a test where there's a large unknown factor of whether they'd die, suffer permanent brain damage, etc. Replacing someones blood with saline, then taking them to "clinical death" for three hours is something that would only be tried if the patient was going to die anyway given current treatment and this procedure might save their life.
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The problem with the bends is that small nitrogen bubbles form in the blood. This is not an issue of breathing per se but rather general issues with presurized gasses and water.
I personally think that this idea might have merit, but it might require more than just blood replacement to work for deep sea rescues. For example, the lungs are still full of air, right? What effect does the pressure have on this? Do you still ge tthe bends unless you remove all the air from the lungs? How difficult is this do to well enough?
Or maybe another way might be to cover the face with a rubber mask, place the body in normal-pressure water, and then encapsulate this in another iron pod. Such a pod might be fairly easily be built small (just needs to be big enough to fit your largest crew member).
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Ice crystals perforating cells was an issue in the past... has this been address? (No, I didn't RTFO yet, I thought someone would mention it).
How do they know that the dogs have no brain damage? Do they have some sort of doggy IQ test to judge their before and after performance? With humans there are many sophisticated tests for various cognitive functions, but for dogs..? "Well, zombie-Fido scored 100 on the stick-fetching test, so he's obviously in perfect condition..."?
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Aren't there legal issues to be worked out here? If you induce a person into clinical death, couldn't that be considered a crime under many defintions?
at the University of Pittsburgh' Safar Center for Resuscitation Research web site.
They provide a little more information on their suspended animation page.
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What I would like to know is if they they took a few dogs...
one dog knows "tricks". ( knows how to shake, rollover, sit, laydown )
one that doesn't.
freeze them, reannimate them...
Then verify that the "smart" one still knows the tricks and the "dumb" one doesn't.
In addition they should test for personality changes. Most dog owners know the ways their dogs "personality"...
My two cents.
Personally, I have NO intentions of being frozen, it gets cold enough up here during winter.
I bet they're going to redefine "clinically dead" after finding out what is still going on undetected after their "deaths".
Not zombie dogs, but the electrical shock bit...
The paddles you see shocking heart attack victims back to life.
They even have Automatic External Defibrillators (AED) in most major airports, many public schools, even malls have them. The AED shocks the heart back into sync and are easy to use -- the instructions are on the box
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This sounds very, very questionable. I call BS.
... and the last words are "... said one battlefield doctor."
First off: What was the name of the doctor?
You mean to tell me this scientific breakthrough is being reported to the press, and the name of the scientist wasn't reported?
Secondly: Brought back to life with an electric shock?
What is this Young Frankenstein? You have to be kidding me.
Thirdly: Its being reported where?
Can we get some additional sources please? It did happen in the U.S. afterall.
Huh? You're a journalist reporting on a major scientific breakthrough and THAT'S YOUR ONE QUOTE!? Not even a name!? You've got to be kidding me.
Either this is absolute hogwash, or this journalist has the reporting skills of a nine year old.
Either way... I'll wait for better coverage before I get excited.
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Now, if you wanted to keep someone in hibernation for more than a few hours, I'm guessing you'd have to have replacement blood to use when you want to bring them back out. Artificial blood would be the way to go. And of course, the way the artificial blood would have to be manufactured would result in a peculularity in which the artificial blood would have a green tint after the body has oxygenated it.
Actually, puppies will frequently practice coprophaghy as well. In rabbits, it's common due to them waiting for the bacteria in their gut to render digestable what they couldn't assimilate the first time around. Captive rabbits provided with a generous supply of food, will rarely ingest pellets.
That having been said, baby iguanas eat the feces of adult iguanas in order to acquire the symbiotic bacteria which enable them to digest their food.
As uncommon as it is to find coprophagic bacteria in carnivores and omnivores, it's very common among herbivores.
Ok, that's been my essay on animals which eat their own crap. Dogs - yeah, I don't know why they do that. Dogs will frequently ingest CAT crap with giddy abandon. I don't have any idea if that's a nutritional thing or what.
That having been said, I'd rather deal with a crap-eating dog which will take orders, than an aloof cat which just stares at me blankly. I've already got an iguana, which will basically just do whatever it wants to anyway - and it's a lot cooler to look at than a cat.
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Yeah, there's even more heartache for all of the not-so-perfectly-bred animals who die in animal shelters because people buy animals from breeders. Personally, I don't think that breeding of cats and dogs should be allowed until there are no unwanted animals in shelters.
This is not the pack of dogsicles referred to in the australian article.
This abstract discusses using cold saline solution to induce mild hypothermia in the brain after a cardiac arrest, and during a 20 minute period without a pulse in order to preserve brain function. It's has a lot more to do with trauma surgery and a lot less to do with suspended animation, though technically one could argue that the differences are as much quantative as qualative.
Anyone who does not understand the difference between mostly dead (you can work with it), dead (even Miracle Max can't do a thing about it) and undead (a zombie is animate, but still dead) should not be writting headlines for medical stories.
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It only gets the hopes of us zombie hunters up that we'll be off the dole soon. If you think the employment situation is bad in IT right now, you should try being a fearless zombie (or vampire) hunter (we don't do ghosts. They're just dead. Any idiot with a proton gun and a ghost trap can deal with them. Dealing with the undead is done hand to hand, or hand to paw, or hand to. .
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Just do a google search on "Pittsburgh's Safar Centre for Resuscitation Research" and you will see this is not something out of the blue for the man who founded the center or the center itself. I was a bit surprised myself at what I read. From all of the background, we probably should have guessed that it was the next step.
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That, sir, is the "Million Dollar Question". Normally, cells take 'hits' from different causes. Those causes can be cancerous cells, allergens, clots, rogue bacteria, viruses, radiation... all sorts. Your body continually heals from this stuff until you gradually am not able to heal any more. Hence aging and sickness the older you get.
In a cryogenic bath, you can assume that celluar damage wont occur as the cancer cells, bad bacteria and the viruses cant do stuff (you know, frozen and all) and you cant get injured as you cant move. My big consideration is that of radiation. We get roughly 70 rads of radiation per year, no matter where we're at on the Earth. Now, when we're up and functioning, our body can handle those 70 rads/year hits with no problem... but how does it heal when we're in cryostasis?
If our cryo-statsis bodies cant heal radiation damage, will we just have a brain-damage time limit (eg: shelf life)? Kinda scary if they cant figure out a way to fully shield us (of if they can..).
I know lead is a nice high density element that absorbs a good quantity of radiation, but would a osmium shielding work better? It is, after all, the denseist(sp?) element on the periodic table. Has there been any experiemnts with radiation and materials that than lower risk? That, to me, would be best for cryo-sciences now.
Seriously, just wondering what the Church's reaction to this is going to be.
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My dog (beagle) would do this. I just chalked it up to her trying to mask her scent. Same with eating feces.
This site, I don't know how authoratative it is, seems to affirm this assumption. http://www.manuelsweb.com/poop_rolling.htm
It wasn't that they withheld treatment, but that they provided false treatment.
The Tuskegee men were poor black and southern and like most poor black southerners considered worthless to society. As a result they had not been retrieving treatment, nor were they ever likely to get treatment (at least from their state government). The Doctors involved in the study saw this as an opportunity to study the progress of syphilus without treatment [not that such a study was really needed, but it fit in nicely with the controlled study idea begining to gain favor].
However the men involved were rightly distrustful of the government and the Doctors had to provide incentives for them to come to the hospital to be studied. So they started providing "medical care" but of course there was no budget for real medical care so they provided limited medical care, and of course did not provide the antibiotics that would have cured the syphillus. It was the provision of inadequate medical care disguised as appropriate care which was so clearly unethical.
And yes they are different from the Airmen, who I don't know anything about.
At the risk of offending the anti-afterlife believers and continuing the threads on heaven, hell, souls and the afterlife in general...
I'd agree with the poster about someone going through this procedure and not having any memory of it since there's no brain activity to store anything.
But let's say there is some sort of energy that isn't measureable by the tools we have now that you could call a "soul" (tm). Maybe it's bound to the body until cellular decay occurs.
Besides, what ever happened with those studies where researchers put notes up on ceilings of operating rooms to see if there were any NDE's that actually found themselves floating up to the ceiling to see what was written on these notes?
Dogs eat other organisms shit because their astounding guts (acidic as hell with a very fast flow) are able to extract some nutrition from it WITHOUT getting sick . Which is why they don't tend to eat their own shit: Once it has been through a dog once there is nothing more they can get out of it. Notice i'm not completely ruling it out - dogs ARE disgusting - it's just their personality that let's us ignore that.
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Rabbits do not ingest their pellets, although it may still be considered coprophagy. They pass soft clumps of partially digested material called cecotropes, usually at night, which they ingest directly from the anus. These are easily distinguishable from regular pellets. Captive rabbits ingest these on a regular basis, although it may be less frequent than wild rabbits.
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We hear beeping sounds of monitoring devices; voices from the nearby nurse's station. The lighting is yellowish flourescent in the hallway for a sad, depressing atmosphere. It's a public hospital, so no one thought to have an interior designer make happy colors. The interior of the room is bright with white flouresent light.
POV: facing LAUREN, just inside doorway. She's just been crying and is still wearing her street clothes.
POV: LAUREN, looking into room.
ANDY has just been wheeled into the room with a major gun shot wound to the chest. The wound is covered by a washcloth and shows some blood, but not a lot. He's behind a curtain setup so only his lower body is clearly visible.
A NURSE (Asian female, early 30's) is facing away from us and is adjusting a piece of equipment.
A DOCTOR (White female, 40's) is facing away from us and illuminated behind the curtain. She's dictating into a tape recorder between probing ANDY's injuries: "Bleeding from perforation of the left thoracic cavity 8cm from center of sternum." Pause. "Fracture of the fourth thoracic rib." Pause. "Wound track and cavity visible. Left lung perforated approx. 4 cm from inner side." Long pause. "Laceration of the circumflex coronary artery. Fragment not found." Pauses tape. (To NURSE) "Get me the chest x-ray please." Starts tape and continues indistinctly.
Fade to black.
Fade back in. More people are in the room. An X-RAY TECHNICIAN (Black male, 30's) is wheeling out the x-ray machine. It's digital, so the results appear on a CRT monitor in the room. The DOCTOR and SURGEON (white male, 50 and graying) discuss the x-ray and gesture to parts of it. They are ignoring LAUREN, who is still standing in the doorway. Finally, DOCTOR comes over to LAUREN and removes her bloody gloves.
DOCTOR: Are you Mrs. Watters?
LAUREN: Yes.
DOCTOR: I'm going to explain what happened and what your options are.
LAUREN: (Bravely) ok.
Blood begins to drip onto the floor, which LAUREN doesn't notice but we do (center of frame between DOCTOR and LAUREN). NURSE puts absorbent towels onto the small pool that's forming.
DOCTOR: Your husband was shot in his chest area fairly close to his heart. The bleeding is serious and we're trying to stop it. The biggest problem is that the heart was injured and we can't repair it completely without stopping it.
NURSE comes up to both of them and stands there.
LAUREN: What does that mean?
DOCTOR: (ignoring her question) You have three options. The first option is for us to try open heart surgery. That is risky and means we have to stop the heart and use a heart-lung machine. The second option is for us to do what's called a "saline evacuation," which means we essentially put the body on ice for a couple of hours while we try to repair the heart. That's the most risky by far. The last option is for us to end treatment now.
LAUREN:
DOCTOR: I'm afraid I can't tell you that.
LAUREN: (Confused) Why not? I have no idea which one I should do.
DOCTOR: Liability reasons. (To NURSE) Come get me when she chooses.
DOCTOR leaves the room, giving the impression of indifference to ANDY's condition and LAUREN's confusion.
NURSE: Ok Mrs. Watters, you need to decide what to do now.
LAUREN: (Confused) Well what did she mean by "put him on ice?"
NURSE: It's where we take out all his blood and replace it with icewater.
LAUREN: (Dumbfounded). Doesn't that mean he would die?
NURSE: Not exactly. It's a technique they did a few years ago to save wounded army people. The heart stops but everything stays preserved and then you can restart the heart after surgery.
LAUREN: Surgery?
NURSE: To repair whatever damage there is. Your husband has a cut in his heart and they can't do anything about it as long as the heart's beating