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Attack of the Corporate Weasel Words

theodp writes "Does it bother you that churches have a Mission Statement touting their Core Values? That even the CIA has a Vision? In his book Death Sentences: How Clichés, Weasel Words and Management-Speak are Strangling Public Language and in this Newsweek interview, Australian author Don Watson argues it's time to protest the mind-numbing business jargon that infests our schools, churches and political speech. Examples that people have sent to him can be found on Watson's website."

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  1. A damaging energy exchange by professorhojo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    my favorite from TFB would have to be the "Damaging energy exchange". I think it means accident. Although the report in which it was included was at pains to point out that "accident" was an inappropriate term for a "damaging energy exchange", and that the British Medical Association Journal had banned the use of the word "accident" in its articles.' And of course, to "Add value", which is obviously 'to agree with one's boss.'

    1. Re:A damaging energy exchange by starm_ · · Score: 2, Informative

      Good example of clutter comes from President reagan's secretary of state who said: "at this juncture of maturization" to mean "now". And when an air force missile crashed, it "impacted with the ground prematurely".

      These examples are from _On Writing Well_ by William Zinsser, a book that should be read by everyone.

    2. Re:A damaging energy exchange by MCraigW · · Score: 2, Funny
      who is to blame for this incident?

      Microsoft of course.

  2. Obligatory by smittyoneeach · · Score: 3, Funny

    In Soviet Russia, all your Natalie Portman hot grittified, Netcraft BSD/Steven King obituaried, greased Yoda doll in mabootied, welcomed by our new GNAA-overlorded, imaginary beowulf cluster of Burma Shavin' weasel words are belong to us!

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    Get thee glass eyes, and, like a scurvy politician, seem to see things thou dost not.--King Lear
  3. Dilbert by savagedome · · Score: 5, Funny
    1. Re:Dilbert by superpulpsicle · · Score: 5, Insightful

      My sunday newspaper has Dilbert in the frontpage. I remember the days when a kid could wake up sunday morning and have only Garfield and other innocent comics.

      Now they are well trained politically, corporately for the next generation of work environment. My neighbors kids always do Dilbert skits. WTF is the world coming to when 10 year olds immitate managers and chief execs for fun?!

    2. Re:Dilbert by D-Cypell · · Score: 5, Funny

      WTF is the world coming to when 10 year olds immitate managers and chief execs for fun?!

      Funny... our chief exec does a pretty impressive immmitation of a 10 year old!

    3. Re:Dilbert by Dun+Malg · · Score: 3
      Nah, we also used to have that godawfulpiece of tripe "Doonesbury", though. At least Dilbert is funny. Trudeau descended into inanity after he used up his couple years worth of originality, then we had to put up with 25 years of trite, sumg liberalism. When I was a child I thought I just didn't get the jokes. Later I found out that it just wasn't funny. HAHAHA! THE PRESIDENT IS A FEATHER! LOL! Gimme a break....

      Flamebait? Maybe, but it's true. Look, I'm not some Republican drone drubbing Doonesbury because I'm some "god fearin', commie fightin' 'merkin". I'm married to a union organizer and former communist, fer cripes sake! My critique of Doonesbury is based on having read the early stuff. Go back and actually read his truly funny stuff from the Nixon era, the really sharp stuff that won him a pulitzer in '75. Up until the 1980 election he was still pretty incisive. It looks like the election of Reagan really soured him, though. After that he turned into just another venue for tiresome liberal tub-thumping-- a sort of Garfield-meets-the-DNC hybrid. I realize some people have special place in their heart for the strip, but the last 20 years of it were really a shadow of its former glory.

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    4. Re:Dilbert by smileyy · · Score: 2, Funny

      When you're right for pretty much an entire 25 years, its easy to get smug.

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    5. Re:Dilbert by dustmite · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You might find this an interesting read: The Trouble with Dilbert. A snippet:

      Dilbert cartoons calcify the essence of the repressive workplace. ...

      "Historically," Ralph Nader has pointed out, "you control people by lowering their expectations." This is true in the workplace and other spheres of life. The diminishing of what we could or should expect -- from ourselves, and each other, and institutions -- normalizes what we find unpleasant or worse. For corporate elites, that diminishment is a pleasure to behold. In Nader's words: "If our expectations are low, they have control."
  4. Lets brainstorm the alternatives by MosesJones · · Score: 4, Funny


    If we aren't going to eight-ball on these associative forward looking statements then clearly we've all got to just co-operatively compete in deciding on a common way forwards that brings all of the stakeholders on board, while enabling individuals to determine their own optimal path to success.

    My other pet peeve is "solutions" as in "refuse organisation and disposal solutions" - Trash collection.

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    An Eye for an Eye will make the whole world blind - Gandhi
    1. Re:Lets brainstorm the alternatives by ShortBeard · · Score: 3, Funny

      I see we are on the same page.

      There is a Palm app called Wank Words Bingo that can be used in corporate meetings. Here's a web based one you can print out or something.

    2. Re:Lets brainstorm the alternatives by Blue-Footed+Boobie · · Score: 2, Funny

      That's ok. When I worked in a restaurant, I was a Hydro-Ceramic Technician. I was damned good, too!

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    3. Re:Lets brainstorm the alternatives by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And like true political-correctness, your funny title obscures your real job. The first thing I thought of was "Toilet Fixer" when in fact you probably were a "Dish Washer".

      I worked at K-Mart in High School as an "Retail Inventory Dispersement Technician" or in English, a stock boy. Later I moved up to "Agricultural Supplement Distribution Engineer" and "Cash Transaction Processing Faciliator". In other words, I was a cashier in the Garden Shop and loaded top soil and cow manure into peoples' cars. It was a good job, and I didn't feel the need to make up silly titles for myself.

      I think the corporate blither-speak has come about for the same reason as other political correctness: People who are trying to sound intelligent without being intelligent and people who are trying to sound important without being important. There's a direct inverse correlation between this nonsense and plain old ordinary competence and common sense.

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  5. It has to happen by Vodak · · Score: 3, Insightful

    We are in a culture where people need to specialize in order to succeed. Now there is only so much specialization that can be achieved. So of course buzz words are needed to justify the niche marketing of... business, goods, and even employment specialties.

    1. Re:It has to happen by brother_b · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Weasely buzzwords or manager-speak like the ones described here exist for one reason - to make middle management actually seem like they serve a purpose. They can send out memo after memo of absolutely no substance and still seem to be doing something useful.

  6. It's annoying but... by Iriel · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...the pointy haired boss from Dilbert is not just a myth. Without these words, that I find to be a detestable sore upon my tounge for each utterance, there are managers that would say "Ooh, that doesn't sound so good... why don't you uhh... perk it up a little bit....yeah." Basically we need to find the Lumbergh gene in the human race and erradicate it so we can stop making the stupid bosses happy, then we can dispose of these garbage words.

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  7. Already Written by shaunj · · Score: 5, Informative

    Didn't Orwell write this long ago:

    http://www.resort.com/~prime8/Orwell/patee.html

    1. Re:Already Written by ffrinch · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yes, and he wrote it much, much better.

      I looked at Weasel Words in the bookshop when it first came out, and it's incredibly dull. Honestly, if someone needs an entire book on weasel words in order to recognize them, they're already a lost cause.

    2. Re:Already Written by Jumperalex · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes he did and he did it better. Everyone needs to read it, and reread it once a year.

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      If you can't be good, be good at it!
    3. Re:Already Written by flyingsquid · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Actually, the correct term is not "weasel words". It's "mustelid lexicography".

      Strunk and White's _Elements of Style_ is another great guide to writing. It lives its message: the book says to be short and to the point, and so the book is actually short and to the point.It goes from the basics like joining sentences to the principles of composition and clear writing. Anyone who wants to be a writer, whether as a journalist, novelist, or academic, needs to pick up a copy.

      I can't believe that almost got through senior year of college without ever having read this book, which is ridiculous- there's this idea in America that you don't need to learn the rules and basics of your craft anymore, whether its art or writing or whatever- well, that idea is bullshit. I'm all for breaking loose and breaking all the rules, but it helps to know the rules in the first place. And for every one Jack Kerouac who can write brilliant drug-fuelled free-form prose, there are a dozen people who really need to pick up Strunk and White, and Orwell's _Politics and the English Language_ Essay and learn to string two words together (I'm firmly in the second camp).

    4. Re:Already Written by Lord+Dimwit+Flathead · · Score: 2, Informative

      Here's an online copy:

      The Elements of Style

  8. I personally like by edremy · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Exciting re-review and recommenting opportunity" for the /. editor's favorite activity.

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  9. Misread by schleyfox · · Score: 5, Funny

    I misread the "Newsweek article" as the "Newspeak article" and I was all like woah, damn dyslexia.

  10. Apologists by Profane+MuthaFucka · · Score: 4, Insightful

    One time I spoke out very strongly about management speak. Synergy this, leverage that. Buzzword Bingo is not amusing when you see that someone can gain power by saying absolutely nothing at all.

    The counter argument was that it's the jargon of management. Just as programmers talk about arrays in a different sense than a layman, or maybe 'threading' for another example. Buzzwords isn't a problem, it's just the language of management.

    I think that's EXACTLY the problem. Managers don't talk to themselves. They lead with ideas, and understand the problems of others to help organize solutions. If nobody understands what the fuck they are saying, it's not management!

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    1. Re:Apologists by smittyoneeach · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Buzzword Bingo is not amusing when you see that someone can gain power by saying absolutely nothing at all.
      You don't get it, do you?
      Big organizations are about elevating policy, procedure and process to religious levels, at the expense of common sense, accomplishment, and leadership.
      It's about maintaining the problem at all costs, a forget about fixing it.
      One either becomes reconciled to it, or departs.
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      Get thee glass eyes, and, like a scurvy politician, seem to see things thou dost not.--King Lear
    2. Re:Apologists by Boronx · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The BBC had a debate between a pro ID card pol and an anti ID card pol. The pro guy was asked whether making everyone carry an ID card would restrict their liberties. He said of course it would, but the benefits outway the risks.

      I was shocked. That man wouldn't last two seconds in American politics. Every American knows that you deny any negative fact no matter how obvious. Weasel words are part of the same problem. An aversion in America from speaking the truth in public.

    3. Re:Apologists by GPLDAN · · Score: 2, Interesting

      As an American in a political job, I can attest to this. The rule is, essentially, never cop to anything. Always, always spin it back at them. The metaphor is tennis. Admit no error, or fault, or weakness, or tradeoff. Doube speak is the order of the day.

      If you do speak honestly, you are marginalized. Instantly. Welcome to the machine.

  11. Christianity reflects the culture it lives in by cuzality · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Christianity has always been expressed through the culture it lives in. It should be no suprise that some churches have visions and mission statements -- they want to succeed, and one model for success in America is the corporation.

    However, there is a backlash against this strict hierarchical structure, and as many traditional structures are being circumvented by new ways of doing things (blogs vs. old media, P2P vs. old music distribution, network vs. hierarchy, etc.), many churches will change to reflect this. This can already be seen in the Emergent conversation, and in the writings of Brian McLaren, Johnny Baker, Doug Pagitt, Tony Jones, and others...

    1. Re:Christianity reflects the culture it lives in by scottyokim · · Score: 2, Insightful

      cuzality, I had never heard of emergentvillage, so I went to the site - the first sentence starts: "Emergent is a growing generative friendship among missional Christian leaders ..." Yow. Generative?? Missional??

  12. != accident. by oneiros27 · · Score: 2, Informative

    That sounds more like a crash to me -- and not all crashes are accidental.

    We can't exactly use the word collision, as not all collisions cause damage (purely elastic or purely inelastic collisions will transfer energy without permenant deformation of the bodies involved)

    I'm not sure if there are times when the word 'crash' denotes a situation that isn't a 'damaging energy exchange', but it seems better than 'accident', which has more to do with something not having been done intentionally, and very little to do with damage or energy exchange. (the context of its use may suggest that, but you haven't given its context).

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    1. Re:!= accident. by Xiaran · · Score: 4, Funny

      That sounds more like a crash to me -- and not all crashes are accidental.

      No. A crash would be an "unanticpated and sudden reduction in kinetic energy".

    2. Re:!= accident. by advocate_one · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I've had two crashes where my kinetic energy was increased... both occasions I was rear ended by some idiot who wasn't paying attention. The phrase you're looking for would be an "unanticipated and sudden change in momentum"...

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      Donald 'Duck' Dunn: We had a band powerful enough to turn goat piss into gasoline.
    3. Re:!= accident. by Xiaran · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Possibly. This thread is, however, an excellent case demonstrating why geeks dont rule the world. If we spent just half the time we spend having arguments about the exact definition of words or acusing each other of not being true anime fans cause we havent learnt Japanese to truely appriciate Neon Genesis we'd control everything.

  13. bullshit bingo by Zatic · · Score: 2, Informative

    There is a way to actually have fun with these nonsense terms:
    http://www.perkigoth.com/home/kermit/stuff/bullshi tbingo/

    I tried this myself in business seminars, definitly works! It's better to have humorous people around, though.

  14. If they are honest... by Alex+P+Keaton+in+da · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The worst mission statements are the ones that are just so disconnected from reality- The ones that were dreamed up in a boardroom where no one had ever seem the manufacturimg facility. I bought a pair jeans and on the tag it said that "we strive to create the best most durable blah blah blah" and when I put them on, a button fell off....
    How about some honest ones- "We seek to have a complete monopoly on unreliable operating systems..."
    I love the ones that have nothing to do with the product... "Our mascara comany seeks to delight our customers, create world peace, and give out random orgasms...."

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  15. It's All About Communication by lukewarmfusion · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have a small business. I am realizing very quickly that success is often determined by your ability to communicate. (I'm also married, and this rule applies equally well to that.)

    If you can't clearly communicate to a client or customer, you can find yourself losing business very quickly. If the client thinks they're getting one thing and you deliver another, that's usually a breakdown on your part. The same goes for clients that don't understand what is required of them.

    Clear and concise gets the job done, makes everyone more comfortable, and takes less time than thick marketing copy or 'vision statements.'

    In my still-idealistic view of the world, that's how it works. I realize that some companies rely on obfuscation and meaningless text to confuse their customers into thinking they're getting one thing when the proposal says another. Or to lock people into contracts that they didn't understand (ie, zero interest for 12 months).

    But those aren't honest. And they don't encourage repeat business, referrals, or customer satisfaction. So in my mind, they don't promote success.

    1. Re:It's All About Communication by CmdrGravy · · Score: 2, Funny

      Almost, I believe it's to ensure that the customer can read into it what he likes but would never be able to prove categorically what it was he's bought in a court of law.

  16. This sounds like a job for.... by NewbieProgrammerMan · · Score: 5, Funny
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  17. We Have to Think Outside the Box, People by nganju · · Score: 2, Funny


    If we're going to tackle this corporate jargon problem, team, we're going to have to leverage our core competencies. We're going have to be goal-oriented and results-driven.

    I say we kick off our anti-buzzword action plan by hitting the ground running. Now, who's going to own the mid-level implementation plan for this milestone?

    P.S. Props to Action Item, Superhero for inspiration.

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    There are 2 kinds of people in this world. Those that can keep their train of thought,
  18. 100% Flamebait Guaranteed by bleaknik · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm looking at writing a mission statement for my own company, and the more I research it the more I appreciate existing ones.

    It does baffle me that churches have so much money, and I am a little afraid that God (TM) didn't intend it to be quite that way. I'm sorry (I have agnostic tendencies), if God exists I surely don't think (s)he intended for any church to be large enough to be considered a business. In fact it disgusts me that here in the United States many of the local religious figureheads drive nicer cars, own bigger houses, and smoke fatter cigars than myself. Men of God? Nay! Men of themselves.

    That said, I appreciate that (privately owned) schools have missions statements, and I appreciate that they are trying to serve their target. I think that every state-funded school in the state of (insert your region) should share a common mission statement. I think its also in their best interest to fulfill their goals as described by that mission statement.

    It has gotten out of hand. There was a time when Not-for-profit really meant Not-for-profit, and I see these "charitable" organizations seeming to crawl forward with beady-green-dollar-sign-eyes.

    Anyway. Mission statements are a wonderful invention and critical in this world known as capitalism. Bloody hell, though... why does the local minister drive a Lexus? /shrug.

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  19. Bullshit Bingo! by ras_b · · Score: 5, Funny

    this reminds me of something i saw when i used to work in corporate america. once before a company wide meeting, a friend/colleague handed me a sheet of paper with a grid of boxes on it- like a bingo board, but each box had a 'buzzword' in it- synergy, proactive, win-win, B2B, e-commerce, e-solutions, etc., etc. the goal was to mark off a word every time you heard it in a meeting. if you crossed off all the words in one row, column, or diagonally, you stand up and yell "BULLSHIT!". freakin' hilarious.

    1. Re:Bullshit Bingo! by SilentSheep · · Score: 2, Funny
      http://www.perkigoth.com/home/kermit/stuff/bullshi tbingo/

      I think this is what you are talking about!! Very funny!

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    2. Re:Bullshit Bingo! by Ginnungagap42 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Shortly after being bought out by General Dynamics, a lot of us oldtimers at my former company played this frequently. The winning managerial statement was: "We must leverage our synergies..." Several people jumped up and yelled "Bullshit!" It was (to quote the parent) freakinng hilarious...

  20. Leveraging Your Assets by Ranger · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What a curios title, How Clichés, Weasel Words and Management-Speak are Strangling Public Language by Don "The Australian" Watson.

    Choking the chicken of discontent, are we? Well, if you've ever worked in a call center, weasel words (lies) and management speak (bullshit) are survival tools. Leverage them wisely.

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    What would you hear if you crossed an Australian with a Canadian? G'day, eh. (OK. You think of a better question to make the answer funny!)

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  21. Re:Critiques of the English language... by ravind · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I know you're a troll but it's not so much a critique of the English language, as it is of the modern culture of Bullshit. It reminds me of another book "Abuse of Language Abuse of Power" by Josef Pieper, and that was originally written in German.

    From Amazon's book description: "... reflects on the way language has been abused so that, instead of being a means of communicating the truth and entering more deeply into it, and of the acquisition of wisdom, it is being used to control people and manipulate them to achieve practical ends. Reality becomes intelligible through words. Man speaks so that through naming things, what is real may become intelligible. This mediating character of language, however, is being increasingly corrupted. Tyranny, propaganda, mass-media destroy and distort words. They offer us apparent realities whose fictive character threatens to become opaque."

  22. Outsource This! by minginqunt · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's all well and good, as we geeks love to feel superior to management-sorts and snicker at them at every available opportunity.

    However, this man comes across as something of a luddite. Much of his opposition to certain phrases is decidedly ludden.

    What's wrong with "email" as a noun? "E-mail Message" is long and pointless, when Huffman coding suggest it can be shortened to "E-mail" or just "Mail".

    In addition to that opposition, he seems to have a limited grasp of Idiom, Synecdoche, Zeugma and other long-established English literary traditions.

    What's wrong with calling an iPod "sexy"? How can one meaningfully be opposed to "poor customer service"? "Reject"? "Requeue"?

    He sounds like a lunatic complaining at any kind of neologism or idiom he didn't have a hand in. Like people who complain about the change in the meaning of the words "gay" and "pussy".

    I'm tempted to say "grow up!" at him.

    Also, a Detention Centre isn't a prison. "Ramp up" is an idiom. It doesn't simply mean "to increase". It means to start something small, and the increase gradually to full capacity. Perhaps we should stay that instead?

    "To drill down" is a well-established idiom. What's the problem?

    It's bonkers. This man seems to have an absurd overreaction to many perfectly innocuous words and phrases. Whether born out of Luddism or some paranoid objection to all neologisms isn't clear, but I'd suggest that this man be ignored as a quack.

    1. Re:Outsource This! by CmdrGravy · · Score: 5, Interesting

      If you had read the article properly you would have noticed that all the examples you are quoting are examples he has received from contributors, the opinions on the phrases are also the contributors opinions.

      I agree with you that some of those points are uneccesarily nitpicking and anal but I have to say that Detention Centre is certainly a good description of a prison but sort of implies that it's somewhere you can drop in and out of at will when you wish to be detained.

    2. Re:Outsource This! by ab762 · · Score: 2, Funny
      Notice that you're commenting on contributed items (comments), not the FA itself. Turns out I know the guy who complained about "email message" - he might indeed be a bit of a Luddite, or at least more pedantic than I.

      (A pedant is anyone who cares about at least one more detail than I do. Anyone who cares about one less detail than I do is a lazy slob, of course.)

    3. Re:Outsource This! by Charles+W+Griswold · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not to pick nits, but "detention centre", "prison" (Cambridge definition), "jail" (or "gaol"), and "penitentary" all have somewhat different meanings.

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      "Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber" -- Plato
    4. Re:Outsource This! by Urusai · · Score: 2, Funny

      Sounds like he needs to leverage his core competencies to promulgate synergistic market-oriented strategies.

    5. Re:Outsource This! by dancallaghan · · Score: 2, Informative

      Except that in Australia our "detention centres" for illegal immigrants defy the parent's linked definition (definition says "can be kept for short periods of time"; we often hear stories of people held for many years).

  23. outgrowth of Political Correctness by yagu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't know which came first, jargon-talk, or politically correct speech, but somewhere in the last thirty years, speech and writing has become more about saying something with empahis on:

    • not saying anything
    • not saying anything that could hurt someone's feelings or sensibilities
    • saying one thing but meaning something else
    • saying something with wiggle room for subsequent repudiation
    • saying something that wasn't asked for (not answering the question)

    Maybe, though I get slaughtered sometimes, that's why I like slashdot... slashdotters give as good as they take. And usually say what they mean, or at least try. Case in point, how simple could a mission statement (hate that term) be other than "News for Nerds. Stuff that matters." be?

    I jumped off the politcally correct band wagon years ago when two "corrections" juxtaposed themselves:

    1. An "instructor" in a sensitivity seminar (required by my company) stopped me mid-sentence after I used the term "black and white" and "corrected" it with "cut and dried". I argued a bit that the the difference between "black and white" and "cut and dried" (semantically) was, in fact, black and white, which of course she appreciated not at all.
    2. A memo arrived one day to all employees with a list of terms no longer allowed to be used in company writings, correspondence, etc. One term, "maiden voyage". Of course I couldn't get to my terminal soon enough to create some paper where I could work "maiden voyage" into the text.

    You all can fight back by using candid, frank, and direct language. But, you'll pay a price. Utlimately though I think you'll find it much more satisfying.

    1. Re:outgrowth of Political Correctness by geniepiper · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I work for the ARC, used to be Association of Retarded Citizens, now due to political correctness it is just the ARC. Now I am not recommending we go back to calling the people at our center "retarded" but do we have to call them "consumers?"

  24. What bothers me more than the weasel words,... by Yewbert · · Score: 2, Insightful
    What bothers me about churches specifically - or, more to the point, about Organized Religion in general - more than the weasel words about their "missions" and "visions" and such, is the huge amount of "middle management" in their structure.

    To make an only somewhat bold and oversimplified assertion, we've seen the effects of the middle-management mentality in (among many other examples) the travesty that has been the Catholic church's handling of the sex-abusing priests: "Middle-management" shuffled most of them around and let them continues to get away with their sick activities, rather than just deal with them properly in the first place.

    Would ANY of that happened if there weren't such a tall management structure, if the religion weren't so organized, if it were instead just a bunch of more-or-less disconnected churches who only paid heed to the main-line directly to their "CEO"? And isn't that the way it SHOULD be anyway?

    Feel free to flame, but I just can't see the necessity for such a stratified power-structure in religion.

  25. Thank god someone is recognizing this by ferrocene · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just the other day I was ranting to coworkers on how this lingo gets into everyday work.

    I was writing up a report and I was including the phrase "Solutions", but I forget what I was solving. Can't I just fix something anymore? Why do I have to deliver a solution?

    Issues and solutions, issues and solutions. I with I had an old-fashioned problem. I'd probably just fix it!

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    1. Re:Thank god someone is recognizing this by superflippy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Our research group has "solutions" in its name, so when we redesigned and reorganized our web site 4 years ago, it seemed to make sense to include a section titled "solutions." There is also a section titled "our work," with the difference being that the work is a list of projects we've actually done and the "solutions" are categories showing the types of projects we can do.

      Looking at our web site usage stats for the past year, the work main page has been visited quite a bit and specific project pages have even more hits, but the solutions main page didn't get enough hits in a year to even show up on the list.

      I think "solutions" has become a sort of synonym for vaporware, and people would rather read about something concrete, like "projects" and "work."

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      Your fantasies contain the seeds of important concepts.
    2. Re:Thank god someone is recognizing this by mtdenial · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Indeed. Among other things, it seems that the wonderful thing about solutions and issues is that you don't really have to solve issues. You manage or deal with issues. Therefore, if the issue doesn't really go away, it's not *you* that failed, it's just that it was managed somewhat incorrectly. Wheras if something is a problem and it doesn't go away, you are basically incompetent. This fundamental difference in language is pretty powerful and is without question in use in a lot of large organizations to cover somewhat incompetent responses to real problems.

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  26. Re:You'll never get rid of it. by Foobar+of+Borg · · Score: 4, Interesting

    One of the best counters to this kind of nonsensical speech is the Socratic method of inquiry. Basically, you keep asking questions about what specifically they mean by a certain phrase, and then what they mean by the BS phrase they use to explain the first BS phrase, and so on. This gets rid of a lot of the nonsense speech assuming, of course, that the person speaking such nonsense is doing so out of habit. If the person you are addressing is BS'ing everything because it is to his advantage, then this will go on until the end of time (or at least until one of you gets tired). My step-father actually tried this once with a blowhard and just gave up at a certain point, because the blowhard appeared to have infinite energy for showing that he was "obviously correct".

  27. It's really not the buzzwords so much... by Jerf · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's really not the buzzwords so much as the matrix of meaningless in which they are embedded.

    For instance, I've seen the phrase "core competency" come up in this discussion a couple of times. I've actually adopted that one in all seriousness, though, because it is a valuable concept, especially in this time of outsourcing. (And remember, outsourcing doesn't just mean "to India"... a six-person company can't hardly afford not to outsource HR nowadays, and that is largely a good thing all the way around.) If you are in a company and you can't identify your core competencies, you're in trouble. If you try to outsource your core competencies, you might as well just pack up shop. And you ought to be wary about taking on things that don't play to your core competencies, and you ought to be careful about expanding them if you don't have the resources.

    But I use the term very specifically, and because there is no better replacement. The problem isn't that word specifically, it's when it gets buried in passive voice and slapped together with other "buzzwords" and ultimately stripped of all referents. "Core competency" is meaningless if you don't really know what it is, or it has no effect on the rest of the sentence/paragraph it is embedded in (i.e., the paragraph makes sense equally if your "core competency" is spinning cotton into thread or performing top-secret assassination missions). Generally, a "mission statement" ought to say outright what it is supposed to be.

    There are other similar buzzwords that if you dig into where they came from, there are valuable ideas there and there are a few others I use in all seriousness, even though I'm more an engineer than a manager. It's really more how they are used, abused, misunderstood, and (perhaps most importantly, as shown above) underspecified that really hurts.

    (Here, I'm talking about the traditional "buzzwords". This is a separate class from "words I use to say something without invoking the negative connotations", like "issue" for "problem". Those are basically indefensible.)

    1. Re:It's really not the buzzwords so much... by GileadGreene · · Score: 2, Insightful
      This has long been a problme with the management world. Not just in language, but in management fads. There are actually a few useful nuggets of information buried in things like TQM. But they can't be applied blindly or at random - you need to actually understand what you're doing.

      The same goes for "management speak". Many of these ideas began as useful things that helped a corporation get its act together. Understanding what your "core competencies" are is important. Defining your corporate "mission" really can help. Identifying "key stakeholders" can be a good thing. But only is these things are actually done with a real understanding of what is being done and why. Paying lip service to these principles (such as slapping togther a "mission statement" simply because "everyone else has one") does not yield useful results. That's what leads to these things having a bad name.

      Too often people lose sight of the result they are trying to achieve, and simply assume that so long as they follow some prescribed process or template they will automatically be successful. IMHO that's the number one problem in modern corporate (and government) culture: a focus on process rather than results. Having a "good process" is meaningless if the desired results are not achieved. Blindly imitating successful orgranizations is pointless if you don't understand why they were successful, and adapt their methods to fit your situation.

  28. Re:You'll never get rid of it. by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Actually, you'll never get rid of them, until you get rid of weasels. The human kind, I have no grudge against the kind that weigh less than 10 lbs.

  29. Depreciation by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I like the corporate weasel culture. Because when I learn that some biz person is basing their "worldview" on some "business scientology" book, I just "write them off".

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  30. Re:I noticed by CmdrGravy · · Score: 2, Funny

    In my case when I say "I'm good. Thanks" I am really saying "I'm damn good at sex you know".

  31. Problem is not mission statements by Fished · · Score: 5, Interesting
    The problem is not churches with mission statements, it's churches with mission statements that read like press releases. As a pastor, I've worked hard to get my church to adopt a mission statement so that I could then compare anything they want to do with the mission statement and eliminate a lot of the cruft. (Thus far, I haven't been able to get it through ... but the day is young. :)

    The problem, usually, is that everyone wants to keep these things generic, bland, and inoffensive. They shouldn't be. For an example of a good mission statement, consider this one I wrote for a computer store I'm a partner in:

    Mission: We will serve our customers with (1) top-quality service, (2) good advice and (3) fair business practices.
    No weasel words, no paradigms--shifting or otherwise--and no nonsense. What we mean by these terms is spelled out in our values statement (which I won't reproduce here.) Because I have this statement, I can hold my employees accountable to it.

    A mission or vision that nobody understands is worthless. But a good one is priceless.

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    "He who would learn astronomy, and other recondite arts, let him go elsewhere. " -- John Calvin, commenting on Genesis 1
    1. Re:Problem is not mission statements by JoshWurzel · · Score: 3, Funny

      Thus far, I haven't been able to get it

      I recommend "Spread the teachings of Christ. Preferrably without killing non-believers or touching little boys."

      Mission: We will serve our customers with (1) top-quality service, (2) good advice and (3) fair business practices.

      Like most mission statements, this isn't actually a statement of your mission. It is a statement of how you want to behave while on your mission. Try adding the word "computer" somewhere in that sentence so that people can get an idea of what you actually DO. This will help you eliminate the cruft. Otherwise you will be providing your customers with top-quality service in the field of malaysian sweatshop labor.

    2. Re:Problem is not mission statements by Captain_Chaos · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Mission: We will serve our customers with (1) top-quality service, (2) good advice and (3) fair business practices.

      No weasel words, no paradigms--shifting or otherwise--and no nonsense. What we mean by these terms is spelled out in our values statement (which I won't reproduce here.)

      You're a commercial enterprise in a capitalist society. Your first priority is therefore almost by definition to make profit. Why is that not in your mission statement?

  32. Re:In case of Slashdotting by Shalda · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I like price point. I think that implies turning product pricing into a science. I was at Target the other day, and they had Bourne Identity for $13.76. Now I know there had to be dozens of focus groups to come up with that number. But the fact is, at $14.99 it would not have landed in my cart. Somehow, $13.76 sounded reasonable to me. That's a price point. It's also much more concise and precise than "how much I'm wiling to pay".

  33. Oh dear God no! by Nemesis][ · · Score: 2, Funny

    Pauly Shore is now a vicious member of management!?!

    (Ya know... That DOES explain alot...)

  34. Understand the purpose of the words... by karlandtanya · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Words are tools. The corporation uses tools in its own interests, not yours. In the case of the weasel words, the corporation presents an image with no substance.


    The purpose is to present an image to the casual observer. Words are selected for their appearance--"pro active", "standards compliant", "reorganization", etc. sound like action, consistency, and controlled change.


    But they mean nothing. That's intentional. The corporation does not want to offer its detractors any ammunition for future attacks. "You said that..." Well, actually, we didn't say anything of the sort. Did we?


    Do you seriously expect some organization to give you a clear commitment to anything without there being some significant benefit to them for doing so?


    It's inconsistent with the corporation's fiduciary responsibility (look that one up, it's a real thing) to act in that manner. That is to say, if a corporate leader does things because "it's the right thing to do for the world/the customers/the industry", rather than "it makes more money for the stockholders and exposes the corporation to less risk", then they violate that responsibility.


    At best, that violation is unethical. At worst, it's criminal.

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    1. Re:Understand the purpose of the words... by Jaime2 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Read the interview. The author has no issue with corporations using management speak. He has a problem with politicians and teachers. They have a different responsibility that this sort of language is NOT suited for.

    2. Re:Understand the purpose of the words... by IgnoramusMaximus · · Score: 4, Insightful
      It's inconsistent with the corporation's fiduciary responsibility (look that one up, it's a rear thing) to act in that manner.

      This "fiduciary responsibility" is in my opnion the main reason we should fear corporations -- like we do fear hungry lions. Amoral, besital and constantly looking for lunch.

      Therefore, the problem of twisted language used to hide the truth from the victims of the hungry corporate greed and lust for power is only a minor one when compared to the corporate influence over governments.

      I firmly believe that in order to save capitalism and the Western societies from themselves, one has to limit severely the size of businesses and remove the corporation as a structure from its current dominant place and restore it to its original purpose, as the "public charter" used to allow a group of small businesses to gang together temporarily to afford a large project.

      Having a greedy, narcisstic and amoral "persons" -- as the corporations are treated by the law of their own design -- is not in the interest of society at large, nor it is in the interest of the economic system known as "capitalism" since its main fuel is "competition", but gigiantic corporations are contrary to that.

  35. Re:Churches? by raider_red · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The mission statement for the Church is in the Bible:

    1. Love the Lord your God unconditionally
    2. Love your neighbor as yourself

    It seems like everything else the Church is supposed to do springs from those two commands.

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  36. Politically correct speech and pronunciations by SeanDuggan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What really gets to me is when it's not even based upon the actual words, but upon the "fear someone might mishear." I'm sure everyone's heard about the politician who got lambasted for using the word niggardly. Then, in a play I was in last year, someone objected to an actor who had the line, "Don't get your knickers in a knot," because she was afraid someone would mishear the word, "knickers." *sigh* And it gets to you after a while. I actually find my self balking for a second before using "black" as a personal descriptor, so many people taking offense, seeing it as labelling.

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    1. Re:Politically correct speech and pronunciations by BurntHombre · · Score: 2, Funny
      "I actually find my self balking for a second before using 'black' as a personal descriptor, so many people taking offense..."

      Could it be because you're white?

    2. Re:Politically correct speech and pronunciations by apt142 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Could it be because you're white?

      That's chromatically challenged, thank you.

  37. Good. by kahei · · Score: 2, Interesting


    Given that I have to say a lot of fairly boring things I would rather put some effort into giving what I say the qualities you describe than just blurt it out. It makes my day slightly more interesting and it reduces the chance of people getting pissed off, which makes me tired (I am old).

    So, while you're making a point of being 'candid, frank and direct' I'll be taking the extra five seconds to be polite, diplomatic and cautious. We'll see which strategy turns out to be more stressful.

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  38. Re:You'll never get rid of it. by deimtee · · Score: 2, Funny

    MOD PARENT DOWN - he discriminates against fat weasels!!!

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  39. Re:General rule of thumb by NonSequor · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Quite frankly, I'd be satisfied if they said "We're working on a new phone, it'll be even better than the last one because it can send e-mails and surf the internet!" instead of "We are designing an nth generation wireless device which will empower users by facilitating multiple forms of digital communication."

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  40. Midair Passenger Exchange by network23 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Midair Passenger Exchange

    Grim air-traffic-controller-speak for a head-on collision. Midair passenger exchanges are quickly followed by aluminum rain.

  41. BullFighter removes the bull for you by HoneyBeeSpace · · Score: 2, Interesting



    A website and plug-in for Word and PowerPoint that measures the overall readability of your documents. It highlights overused consulting jargon, offering witty comments along the way.

    http://www.fightthebull.com/bullfighter.asp

    Also, for sharing images:
    http://depicto.com/

  42. Use of "Resources" by saihung · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I used to be a mid-level manager. I hate listening to people talking about "forces" (did you mean soldiers?) and "resources" (did you mean employees? workers?). I agree with Watson that this kind of talk is deeply dehumanizing.

    So at a monthly meeting, when my boss asked me if I needed more resources to complete a project, I said, "I don't think I need any more coal or lumber for this project. I could use some more people though." I think I nearly got fired that day.

  43. "Now, as you all know, I'm not here..." by Tim+Browse · · Score: 4, Funny
    For all right-thinking people in the UK, the epitome of this was the character of Gus in Drop the Dead Donkey.

    A couple of my favourites:

    "Could you join me for a brief scuba in my thinktank?"

    "Can we pool our brainspaces in a centre of excellence?"

    More here

  44. The Emperor's New Words by Shannon+Love · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It has been shown in psychology studies that people judge speakers who use longer sentences and who are difficult to understand as more intelligent than people who speak concisely. Especially in the case of authority figures, we tend to assume that the fault lays within our selves for not understanding their novel phrases or convoluted sentence structure. Like the parable of the "Emperor's New Clothes" people are afraid to admit they understand what the authority figure is talking about lest they be mocked by others.

    This phenomenon creates an incentive to create "management speak." People will be less likely to question you if you confuse them. People won't complain about being confused because they fear being called stupid.

  45. Homicide Bombers by t_allardyce · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The word bomber refers to someone who kills with explosives - eg "The Omagh Bomber Faces Charges"

    The phrase suicide bomber refers to someone who kills with explosives but also dies in the same explosion either to evade capture or to make sure the bomb goes off.

    So what are homicide bombers?

    Oh and while we're on the subject, since when did the Department of Defense also do attacks?

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  46. Perfect remedy for this problem by gr8_phk · · Score: 4, Funny

    The way to stop this nonsense is cleary to make wildass fun of it in a beer commercial. Remember all those idiots that used to say "what's up" in passing in the hallway? That all stopped after the WWHhhaazzzuuuuup beer commercials. If you make them feel like a jackass on a BEER commercial, they'll stop in short order. Or should I say: If you apply a poor quality rating to the suppliers deliverables in a widely accepted public forum, the resultant reconfiguration of the parameters is likely to change toward a positive outcome.

  47. Hummmm by a803redman · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If a word or phrase "Resonates" and "Gains Traction " with the masses it will force a "Paradigm Shift" and become normal. In the end, it matters not if the Language Elite "reject" these terms, "With all due respect" if some of these folks "Moved on" with their "vision" we would be speaking Latin. I just find it a real "Disconnect".

  48. Last weekend at a Café by WormholeFiend · · Score: 4, Funny

    I was biking around and I stopped for a cafeine refuel... decided to drink my cup inside thanks to the nice air-conditioning...

    There was a couple sitting at the table next to mine, the man was elaborating at length on some kind of organisational scheme, using the latest buzzwords. And his female companion seemed impressed!

    Having finished my drink, I stood up and asked the man: "You must work in HR, right?"

    He looked bemused, and said: "Yes. How did you know?"

    I just smiled and left.

  49. "To drill down" by KnarfO · · Score: 3, Funny

    "To drill down" is a well-established idiom.

    ... in the oil exploration industry.


    ... as well as in the adult entertainment industry!

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  50. Mission Statements are a way to avoid Values by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you say you have a specific list of mission goals, you can avoid actually practising the same goals in actual behavior.

    Just more of the downsizing of morality in today's Soviet Amerika.

    Pay attention to what they DO - not what they SAY.

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  51. Hey man that's my comic strip! by PCM2 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Hey all right! Someone beat me to posting it. I am... so touched!

    Anyway, yeah, it is a little ancient, but judging from the response I still get to it, it's definitely still relevant.

    This strip was once printed in the Industry Standard magazine and in PC World New Zealand, of all places. Not to mention that Xerox once used it as a print sample for some of their color printers. But it's mostly known for having "escaped the lab" and been e-mailed to people all over the world.

    And, fear not! I know for a fact that it's pasted on all kinds of cubicles all over the planet. In fact, my boss claims that one of the reasons I was hired at my current job is because of that comic strip.

    (In case you haven't figured it out yet, I'm the guy what drew it.)

    Anyway ... yeah, over the years I have gotten literally thousands of e-mails about it, from addresses all over the place, including countless big-name corporations whom I won't name to protect the guilty. You know who really loves it, though? The government. I've gotten more e-mails from the military, government agencies, and big government contractors like Boeing than I can even count. My all-time favorite is still the guy from NIMA (which I believe is now called the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency ... think spy satellites).

    Even stranger, though, are the e-mails I get from people in countries where English isn't even the native language. Get your head around that one ... they learned English as a second language and they're already familiar with this kind of speech. Now that's just ... sad.

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  52. My favorite by cfulmer · · Score: 4, Funny

    Donating experienced personnel to the local job market.

  53. Controlling Discourse by Chemosky · · Score: 2, Insightful
    In the corporate climate, the ability to sling some jargon is perceived by some as intelligent and/ or powerful. From a wider perspective, It's been argued any group develops a common discourse. There are numerous reasons:
    • us vs. them (developing a subculture)
    • control (doctors sell the idea of control through their discourse)
    • power (sounding like an "expert")
    • dominance (intimidating through fine use of the jargon)
    The entire way a doctor approaches a patient is designed to give the patient the idea the doctor is in control of the situation. Not being in the medical profession, I've always wondered how they teach doctor patient interaction and if they actually touch on these control issues? Anyway, it's the same in any group, even slashdot has its own discourse, (e.g. troll, trolling, flamebait, karma) and demonstrating control of the language of slashdot can be perceived as intelligent or desirable among the slashdot crowd.

    Scott

  54. You don't need to fix anything by PCM2 · · Score: 2, Funny

    You don't use the word "fix" because there is no such a thing as a problem. It is a challenge.

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  55. Re:Critiques of the English language... by HermanAB · · Score: 2, Informative

    There is nothing modern about it. The original Bullshit How-to Guide is Aristotle's Poetics, written around 350BC. It describes in exquisite detail, how to create religious texts...

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  56. Currently reading this book by Cybersaint2k · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm a writer and editor who appreciates these sorts of books. On Writing Well, Sin and Syntax, the list goes on. Each one gets a note card and the salient points of each book jotted down (which usually fit on one side of the note card). So far, I have nothing jotted down for DS. What he says that is true is said better elsewhere; what he says that is new is...well, I haven't read that yet. The first 1/3 of the book is quite energetic; I enjoy ranting with him about verb-less rhetoric. But then his rather extreme anti-capitalism and anti-Bush views get tiring. For instance, at the 1/3 point in the book, he asserts that the reason public language suffers is the decline in socialism/government management of business. To him, privatization is the Great Language Satan. I see.... Read E.B. White instead. Read the King James Bible. Awash in simple, profound language, you'll find hope of speaking well and less anger at conservatives.

  57. Good quote by EvilStein · · Score: 2, Funny

    "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit."

    How true it is.

  58. Cargo-cult management by wiml · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think of this as "cargo-cult management". (Check wikipedia if you're not familiar with cargo cults.) People notice that many successful companies have a coherent core values and missions and whatnot, and certain kinds of documentation and processes, and decide that those things cause success, when in many cases it's much more likely that some third quality is causing both success and the observable "cargo" of mission statements.