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What Makes a Good IM Client?

thesaint05 asks: "So I was sitting here at my job where and IM is a pretty integral part of communicating intra-office. However, I have 3 different clients installed, and each has a different user base. Within the office we have an SIP server and use Windows Messenger. The Google Talk client is for colleagues and friends on the cutting edge, and AIM is used by pretty much everybody else (including a bunch of clients). So, after holding 3 different conversations simultaneously on all 3 clients (Windows Messenger with a colleague, AIM with my girlfriend, and Google Talk with a friend at a different tech company) I got to wondering, what are the strengths and weaknesses of all of these clients? Which do you use and why? If you could combine features from all of the IM clients out there, what would they be?"

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  1. Each Protocol Has Its Good Points by duerra · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I was asked this question a few days ago, my response was that there is a little something from every network that I would like to combine for use into one standard.

    MSN - Ability to change your nick. Ability to accept or decline others from adding you to their buddy lists.
    AIM - Ability to set auto-reply messages. Direct connect for quicker file transfers.
    Yahoo! - Ability to send messages to people that are offline that they will receive next time they sign on. Ability to go invisible.

    There's stuff I'm missing, no doubt, and I didn't cover every protocol out there, but those are the major things for me.

    I'm not sure of all of the Jabber specifications, but I know there's things in there that specify encryption stuff, among a number of other nice things.

    Right now, I think strong encryption (like with the gaim-encryption plugin) between client to client (not client to server) is one big thing that all of the major players need to address.

    1. Re:Each Protocol Has Its Good Points by omnix · · Score: 2

      I worked for HAL++ for a while and I liked the alphaWorks SameTime client (I forget the name exactly) but it would talk, which freed me up to walk away from my desk. I was working remotely, so when things got really slow (or not), I could go watch TV and not worry about missing someone trying to get ahold of me via IM... (Think CYA)

      Anyway, I'd like the client to have speach capabilities... Even better would be to assign different voices to known contacts, but that's just my opinion. I could be wrong.

    2. Re:Each Protocol Has Its Good Points by kidgenius · · Score: 2, Informative

      Send messages to receive when the come back and the ability to go invisible are both possible on AIM as well. Use GAIM to be able to do these things.

    3. Re:Each Protocol Has Its Good Points by slavemowgli · · Score: 4, Informative

      If you want strong encryption with nice properties, do look into off-the-record messaging - there's both a GAIM plugin (works with all protocols) and an AIM proxy. I think AdiumX also has support for this built in.

      It's got some nice properties like perfect forward secrecy and plausible deniability, and it's GPL/LGPL-licensed. (GPL for the AIM proxy, toolkit and GAIM plugin; LGPL for the library)

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    4. Re:Each Protocol Has Its Good Points by Blackjetta · · Score: 2, Informative

      The New Msn Messenger doesn't allow you to go invisible for particular users. Yahoo allows you to do this selectively. I may want to talk to some users but not all of them.

    5. Re:Each Protocol Has Its Good Points by AK+Marc · · Score: 2, Informative

      Personally, I find the MSN support for video better than AIM. I have not tried the Yahoo client for video.

      The AIM support for video is the worst. Yahoo is nice in that it works well with multiple people watching. MSN and Yahoo are just fine for one-on-one video conversations.

    6. Re:Each Protocol Has Its Good Points by cheezus_es_lard · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'd like to see the ability for you to have speech recognition, but also text to speech... I mean, if you're using the same client, you can train your client to recognize your voice, and also record the information on it; timbre, pitch, tone, etc... store that in a profile and have the client transmit it automatically (if desired) the first time your buddy tries to text-to-speech your incoming IMs. The recieving client could apply the settings from your profile to your incoming messages, reading them in a voice similar to your own (I'd expect eerily similar as the technology developed). I can't imagine this being that difficult, and with modern processing capabilities, rendering speedy text-to-speech isn't that hard, so I don't see why it couldn't be reasonably usable.

      Aside from the obvious creep-out and privacy invasion issues, are there any technical reasons this would be hard, and is anyone working on something like this?

      just curious ;-)

  2. Fess up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    This was just an excuse to use the words "my girlfriend" in a Slashdot story.

    1. Re:Fess up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Girls, eeeeuuuuuhhhhh.....

    2. Re:Fess up by GetPFunky · · Score: 5, Funny

      Once I heard the words "my girlfriend", I assumed this story was urban legend.

    3. Re:Fess up by That's+Unpossible! · · Score: 4, Funny

      My girlfriend thinks your comment was totally uncouth.

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  3. well... by daeley · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you could combine features from all of the IM clients out there, what would they be?

    Adium? ;)

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    1. Re:well... by JazzCrazed · · Score: 5, Informative

      Or Gaim for the Linux/Windows users, the core library of which Adium uses.

    2. Re:well... by MyDixieWrecked · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Adium is actually the BEST IM client I've ever used. Not only the best multi-protocol client, but the best client all-together.

      I'd say that the features that stuck out the most when I first started using it were the tabbed IMing and the extremely compact design. Those are still a huge plus, but the newer version now has a very nice CSS-based IM styling thing and buddylist skins, IM encryption (which is compatible with my GAIM using buddies), support for nearly every IM protocol in wide-use, aliases, logging, and meta-contacts(being able to group multiple screennames into a single, virtual, buddy).

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    3. Re:well... by zootm · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Thing with Gaim is that the interface isn't as polished as that of Adium — it could use a bit of work. The back-end (which, as you say, Adium uses) is top-notch, though.

    4. Re:well... by xiao_haozi · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I have to tack up my affirmative nod on this one as well! I used AIM and Trillian for windows...as well as Gaim on both win and lin boxes. However, when I got a PB last may and found Adium, I have trouble using anything else. Granted, as TF says, there are benefits to each, I have found Adium to be one of the most complete packages out there. As mentioned tabbed browsing is great, with the integrated ability to jump tabs with keyboard shortcuts. The other nice feature is the ability to totally manipulate the interfaces and customize the link of the buddy list, the icon sets and menu icons, no ads, color scheme, soundsets, message boxes, etc. I know these are just visual features and don't reference what's 'under the hood', but these are the things that have tended to impress me the most with a program that I always have open and visually available on my desktop.

    5. Re:well... by burner · · Score: 2, Informative

      Adium doesn't support windows or linux.

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  4. Go with GAIM by Anarke_Incarnate · · Score: 5, Informative

    and be done with it all. Googletalk is just Jabber which works with GAIM. Windows/MSN messenger and AIM work, as do Yahoo and ICQ.

    1. Re:Go with GAIM by kryten_nl · · Score: 5, Informative

      From the GAIM news page:
      Summer of Code

      Meanwhile, Google's Summer of Code has drawn to a conclusion and we are very happy with what our students accomplished. Support for Apple's Bonjour protocol, UPnP NAT traversal, AIM and ICQ file transfer proxying, and support for the SIP/SIMPLE protocol are a few of the additions. See the news post at the top of our Summer of Code page for a detailed list.

      Working at Google

      I (Sean) have been hired by Google, moved to Seattle, and have been working on the Google Talk team for about a month and a half. The goal of Google Talk is to make real-time communication as open as possible, and in that regard, I've been working to offer all of Google Talk's features into other clients. Currently, I'm working on making it as easy as possible for other clients to use Google Talk's voice features. You can expect Gaim and other clients to be interoperable with Google Talk's voice features in the near future.

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    2. Re:Go with GAIM by slavemowgli · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Unfortunately, though (and this is not intended as a GAIM bash!), when you go beyond the basic feature of being able to talk to people etc., GAIM frequently breaks in annoying ways. I've used GAIM since its 0.5x days at least (not sure if I tried it before that), and there's *always* something - file transfers are a frequent problem, for example, as are direct connects, inline images, etc. Depending on the version, it's also rather prone to crashing - versions around 0.59.x were best, IMO, then things degraded pretty seriously, and the current release (1.5.0) has recovered again for the most part.

      GAIM is a nice program, and I certainly prefer it over closed-source clients who might do goodness-only-knows-what on my box, but it does have its flaws, too.

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    3. Re:Go with GAIM by Jotii · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Personally I hate GAIM's user interface. I prefer Trillian, with it you can use as many protocols as with GAIM.

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    4. Re:Go with GAIM by Afrosheen · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yeah, I hated this too, but it's a simple fix. Through Preferences, activate the system tray icon. Now visit the option for the system tray icon in the plugins list and tick 'hide new messages until icon is clicked'. From now on new messages will just blink the gaim icon in the tray, and yes, it will get your attention.

    5. Re:Go with GAIM by stevenharman · · Score: 2, Informative

      I would have to agree with this comment. On my home PC I use GAIM for talking on AIM, MSN, & GoogleTalk and it works great. The plug-in environment makes it easy to configure/customize to work My-Way (tm). And at work I use GAIM for the above 3 plus Sametime. However, as the parent said, it does tend to break/not support much beyond the basic chat functionality.

      For example, this past weekend I was trying to help a family member fix their M$ box, and I wanted to login remotely and let them watch me/talk them through the fix. Normally I'd use a VNC-over-SSH type solution for this. But I knew that would be too much configuration on my family memeber's side... especially when it came to configuring their firewall. So, I decided to give Microsoft's "Remote Assistance" feature.

      The easiest way to do this is for both parties to be on MSN (and be running MS Messenger), and the party in need of help just right-clicks on the "expert's" name, and sends an invite to help them. The "expert" then accepts the invite and is connected to the "novice's" desktop (via MS Terminal Services/Remote Desktop). The nice thing is that since the _novice_ started the conversation (session) their (Windows XPSP2) firewall will let the expert connect b/c the service will open a hole in the firewall. (M$'s How-To: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/helpandsu pport/learnmore/remoteassist/viaim.mspx)

      Granted, I still had to talk my family member thru opening a hole in their hardware firewall. But since it was just your basic consumer router (Linksys, Dlink, etc...) it was pretty painless.

      Anyhow, the point of this rant is that this is not possible thru GAIM, but only when using M$'s own MSN Client.

      - just my $0.000002

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  5. Two major ones by Bananatree3 · · Score: 5, Informative
    Two commonly used ones are (and fairly good ones I might say) are Trillian and GAIM

    GAIM is an Open Source program, and therefore is completely free. Trillian has a free and Pro versions, but the free version is still quite capable.

    1. Re:Two major ones by benna · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Huh? GAIM is open source. If yahoo gives the protocal information to GAIM, Trillian could easily just look at GAIM's code (not copy it mind you). In practice, when yahoo does try to block Trillian, Trillian has a patch out within a day or two, and it hasn't even happened in quite a while.

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    2. Re:Two major ones by SirTalon42 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually, when Yahoo breaks their protocol to try and keep third party clients out, the Trillian people will often figure out how to get back on first and share it with the Gaim developers (the two development teams seem to be pretty good friends).

    3. Re:Two major ones by petermgreen · · Score: 2, Interesting

      yeah all the major im networks seem to have given up on blocking the multiprotocol clients now.

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  6. Easy. by Sax+Maniac · · Score: 2, Funny

    Trillian for Windows, gaim on Linux. Next question?

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    1. Re:Easy. by Evil+Closet+Monkey · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Beat me to the Trillian punch by a refresh. Trillian is great -- the free version is nice, the pro version is worth the money (IMO). Pro is the only way you can using GoogleTalk with Trillian (ala the Jabber plugin), but look beyond that to the fact that Trillian was written by two guys. Two random guys who sat down and created one of the best darn chat clients available. That deserves a $25 high-five. :)

  7. Hmm... by TheSpoom · · Score: 4, Informative

    Sounds like you're looking for Trillian with the Jabber plugin (and some instructions) to be able to connect to all three.

    Anyway, I abandoned having more than one IM client installed a while ago. ICQ, for example, has always taken up gobs of RAM, and was one of the main reasons I wanted to consolidate a few years ago. I used to use Gaim, which is a good open source client that can connect to most networks (including Jabber, so it'll work with Google Talk). For whatever reason though, it kept crashing on me whenever I'd send a file, so now I'm using Trillian (Pro), which has worked very well for me. (Much better than the 1.x version I tried several years ago, if anyone hasn't tried it in a while.)

    As for the networks themselves, I have contacts on the major four (ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo) and really, the features of each aren't that different when they're all in the same client; it's all mostly small things. ICQ doesn't have the thing that shows when you're typing, for example. But for me, if they can do text chat well and can send files, they're fine for my usage.

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    1. Re:Hmm... by steven_jj · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Have you tried Miranda? Much like Trillian, but has a huge amount of plugins etc so you can customise it to your hearts content, very lightweight, generally IMHO wins slightly over Trillian.

  8. SIP has encryption integrated with AD by beejhuff · · Score: 3, Informative

    That's pretty beneficial, and as far as I know that's the reason we use it at Dell, at least for internal IM needs.

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    1. Re:SIP has encryption integrated with AD by bernywork · · Score: 2, Informative

      SIP is just a protocol that a lot of people implement. SIP is implemented by Polycom for phones and by a number of other companies. It handles voice quite well apparently.

      Office Communicator / Messenger / Microsoft Live Communications Server is only one implementation.

      As far as I am concerned, having rolled it out to a thousand and a few people, although it scales quite well, the fact that you have to pay per user per month for federation out to the other networks (AOL/ICQ, Windows Messenger, Yahoo!) I think Jabber is a much better option. It's what they run internally at HP.

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  9. One Simple Thing - Social Networking by under_score · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I actually haven't seen this in an IM client, but it would be cool. Tie in to a networking system like LinkedIn or build in the capacity so that if you choose, you can browse and create connections through your friends list.

    1. Re:One Simple Thing - Social Networking by osssmkatz · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Let's think about social networking for a second. I as a college student use The Facebook, and Livejournal. Livejournal lists people's instant messaging identifiers, but no way from Livejournal to send people an instant message. Why not? Second, if I pay my phone company $50/month for unlimited communications, why can't my IM client use that line to make calls and let me talk on a headset?

      The computer needs to be the Rolodex of the future, with phone, e-mail, and text messaging built in.

      They still haven't perfected that yet, because all the IM providers are wasting time on a feature war, and the computer manufacturers (excepting Apple) have not built capable hardware for voice and video communications into their boxes.

      So that's the feature I want: communication that works and is free, whether by phone, or IM.

      --Sam

  10. lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    aside from the encryption, icq had all of these and more in 1997

    1. Re:lol by duerra · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah, it's too bad that ICQ has that stupid number instead of a username, though. Numbers are hard to remember, hard to give to people on a whim, etc.

      ICQ was so close to being perfect!

    2. Re:lol by irc.goatse.cx+troll · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I'd rather everyone have a numeric id, but not sequential. Unique id should be the hash of your public key, which is then used for verification/encryption.
      You then do the rest icq style. I still don't remember my uncles icq uin, nor do I know his aim screenname, but I know if I type his name in the Find User dialog, I'd find his icq account. Long aim screennames are no easier considering aols db is merged with netscape/compuserve/a few other services by now. The number of unused old accounts wasting space is astonishing. I couldn't even register my full name as a screenname because it was already in use.

      Unique numeric ids keep people from fighting over that stuff, and rarely have to actually be displayed, you just display the nick they set as the displayname. Then only show the numeric id in case of duplicate names when trying to find people. Even then you dont have to show the full digits, you can use graphical representation of the key. Forgot the name of the tech, but it looked promising when used for PKI.

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    3. Re:lol by AoT · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah, I never give people a contact number on a regular basis.

  11. ICQ, the forgotton protocol by jandrese · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The advantages of ICQ (over AIM) with the default clients are:
    1. Offline messages. Extremely handy for a lot of things.
    2. Stored History. Unbelievably useful when trying to find something someone mentioned to you 6 months ago. Grepping through the licq history has been a livesaver for me. AIM clients can of course implement it too, but a lot of them don't for some bizarre reason, or they require you to manually tell it where to store files.

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  12. Client: Miranda by Semok · · Score: 2, Informative

    I think this one is a pretty nice client: www.miranda-im.org
    Cool thing: all major protocolls are supported via plugins AND you can set it up to use gnupg! Not a common feature in the big programs ...

  13. i use all at once. by ilf · · Score: 2, Insightful

    just get http://bitlbee.org/ (with irssi on a screen, yeah!).
    or miranda..

  14. Userbase by prurientknave · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The one thing i'd like to add from all clients is a userbase. ;) The multi-im clients come close to this functionality and as far as I'm concerned it is the only important feature they need to share. Text messaging everyone I know without inconveniencing them by asking them to switch to a network of their choice is ultimately the point of im. Open interfaces for enhanced features like games, picture and file sharing would also be nice but there is little reward for each of the hosts of these services if they can't guarantee commercial advertising.

    1. Re:Userbase by Miros · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This is absolutely true. IMs are like the phone system. The more people on the system, the better it is for the user, because by far the strongest aspect of any IM system is how able to find your friends on it you are. This is why the instant messanger business has been historically extremely hard to penetrate (with new networks) and the dominant player (aim) shows no signs of being dislodged. I like the "my sister" test. My sister is not a techie, she doesnt work for a corporation that uses its own instant messaging system, as a result, whenever a new instant messaging network is created (most recently google talk) i ask myself "Could i get my sister to use this." The answer, like with just about every other network, was no. Of course, there is some regionality to clients. MSN is pretty big in other parts of the world. But these networks are usually separated by a language barrier (or, in the case of AIM, the 'AOL' part, which has 'America' in it) and so they essentially function as though they served completely differnt customers.

  15. Gaim by Finnegar · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I've got Gaim (gaim.sourceforge.net/).

    Includes basic (text only, if you use things like voice, video and sending files often, it is not for you) support for AIM, MSN and a whole bunch of others. There is a way to make it work for Google Talk via their Jabber client, but I can't tell you first hand how well that works.

    As for features, I like the tabs the most. You would be having your three conversations as three tabs in one window, with color coded notification if they are typing or have posted something new. All chats can be logged, so you can easily go back and see what was said. There is also a built in spell checker that I haven't yet bothered to get working. Finally (that I can think of now), if you've got folks with multiple accounts you can have them on your buddy list as only one name, cutting down on clutter.

    As a big plus, a new version (if I did my math right from their announcement) should be coming out pretty soon, for which they promise many great things on the website...



    If you don't like Gaim, might be something on here? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_instant _messengers

  16. Adium, Adium, Adium by illtron · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A good client will handle multiple protocols.
    A good client has a beautiful, well thought out interface (including the prefs)
    A good client does not have games.
    A good client does not have a stock ticker.
    A good client does not have a giant SUBMIT button (Everybody knows enter/return sends).
    A good client will let you organize/arrange your contact list to suit your needs (Sorry iChat -- yes, even in Tiger)
    A good client is extendable.
    A good client has a no-brains-needed logging feature.
    A good client plays well with others (Growl, baby)
    A good client has tabs (Nobody wants a dozen chat windows).
    A good client will not try to reinvent the wheel (Why does control+Z minimize the chat window in Gaim?)
    A good client will let me effortlessly send files (uhhhh....)

    I'm thoroughly sold on Adium, but since I'm stuck on Windows at work, I use Gaim there, because it is the simplest. Trillian is extremely overrated. AIM is absolute adware garbage.

    On the Mac side, only iChat lets me transfer files without issue (official AIM might, but I won't install it to find out).

    Proteus and Fire are nice, but Adium is *nicer.* I won't fault anybody for trying the others, but I think it's worth anybody's time to give Adium a day or two to win them over.

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    1. Re:Adium, Adium, Adium by kobaz · · Score: 2, Informative
      Why does control+Z minimize the chat window in Gaim?


      For the same reason that emacs minimizes when you hit ctrl-z. In the unix world ctrl-z is suspend, they are just following the convention. Gaim wasn't ported to windows until much after it's initial release.
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    2. Re:Adium, Adium, Adium by John+Nowak · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This isn't at all a reason. When you port software, there should be a basic effort made to follow the conventions of the target system. The truth is Gaim is just a mess in this regard on every platform, even Gnome. Trillian also craps all over conventions. The only solid AIM client out there that behaves itself is Adium, and it goes so far beyond that is well. Things like Adium, Quicksilver, etc, will keep me on the Mac platform for a long time.

  17. Did we read the question? by hubbah · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think the poster is asking what makes a good IM client, not which IM client we happen to prefer. Related questions to be sure, but not the same.

    Contrary to folk wisdom, IM clients can be specialized, they're not all trying to outdo each other at the same tasks. So it's important to ask yourself what you're looking for. Fun & features? Try Yahoo's 'IMvironments' (or whatever silly thing it's called), sharing pictures? 'Hello' has some picture oriented, well-designed UI affordances in their chat client.

    Personally, I look for the following things in a client:

    - Simplicity (I want to think about IMs as little as possible)
    - Universal compatibility (I don't want to run more than 1 client, I don't want to ask my friends to get xyz client in order to talk to me)
    - Configurability
    - No ads

    I haven't tried every available client, but Gaim fits the bill for me. It's small, simple, highly configurable and speaks pretty much every lingo out there. It's not strong in its file-transfer capabilities and its ability to send pictures, but those features are not as important to me.

    Plus, it's open source.

    Hubbah

    1. Re:Did we read the question? by g0bshiTe · · Score: 2, Informative

      I agree with your list of "let's keep" or what to look for, as an MSNM user I think the worst things in the world are the ads and the freaking Nudges!

      What I would really like in an IM client.

      A simple IM interface, text only no silly animations no cutesy icons no flashing ads or brightly colored atrocious text or font no nudges, must have the ability to file transfer send/recieve live audio/video that is my dream IM.

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  18. Security, Solid Features, Stability, No Ads by Fearan · · Score: 2, Insightful

    1. Any IM client that isn't secure could one day prove to be a huge problem for a company or a userbase. Fortunately, there hasn't been widespread IM viruses, but who knows?

    2. The ability to VoIP, change nicknames, block certain types of users, send images, create smilies and a variety of other features are always fun to have. But they can't be intrusive. I hate MSN's interface, way too many useless gadgets that try to be cool. On the other hand, Google Talk is very clean but Jabber isn't the most feature-full system.

    3. I don't want to see ads when IMing. I don't want to get popups from using software, and I don't need daily news. Google Talk is awesome for this, as is Trillian and Adium.

  19. AIM from the moment I was hired by shawnmchorse · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've always loathed real-time chat, including IRC and instant messaging. I'd rather people just e-mailed me in general, since then I can respond whenever I feel like or just ignore it. The moment I was hired at my current programming job though, I was required to set up a work specific AIM account from day one. The owners were overseas in Spain, and it turned out that AIM was their primary means of communication between Spain and the U.S. I've slacked a bit in the three years after that as far as my general loathing of it, but I still have yet to ever use instant messaging at home. The thing that's always scary to me is the sheer number of confidentail business conversations that have taken place over unencrypted AIM over the years. We've tried getting people to use GAIM with the encryption plug-in, but that's generally only used by the technical people and not the business people.

  20. The Meebo Alternative. by crlove · · Score: 5, Informative

    And for those who want to use these IM clients but can't from work, there's always Meebo. Pick on AJAX all you want, but I can IM on MSN, Yahoo, Google, and AIM through port 80.

    1. Re:The Meebo Alternative. by Nevenmrgan · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I had never heard of this before. Impressive. It worked fine, except there were positioning problems with some elements (floating scrollbars 0 using latest Gecko). But overall, that's pretty damn swanky.

    2. Re:The Meebo Alternative. by data64 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I use "ssh -p 80 -D 5500 me@homemachine" and then just tell Gaim to use localhost:5500 as the proxy. This gets me through most firewall restrictions.

    3. Re:The Meebo Alternative. by Psx29 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Call me paranoid but how do I know these people aren't going to harvest my username and password?

  21. gaim by know1 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    i've heard there is a windows program that does the same,. i'm sure someone here will telly you, but i like gaim when i ever do use IM as it handles msn/im together. i should imagine google talk might be included in the next version of it or at some version in the future as they seem to be quite friendly towards OSS.
    oh and the worst aspect of any instant messenger is if it pops up and steals your windows focus and you end up typing half a url into a message window or whatever. best feature is integrated email delivery notification for me. would be nice to have that for gmail as well as aol/hotmail.

  22. I've found the best on Linux by WhiteWolf666 · · Score: 2, Informative

    to be Kopete, for KDE.

    http://kopete.kde.org/

    It's fast, easy to use, very elegant. It suffer from the same problem most KDE apps have, far too many options, but once you get it setup the way you like it, its fantastic.

    Video for Yahoo chat, as well. Jabber, MSN, ICQ, AIM, Google Talk, Yahoo, others that I haven't even heard of.

    It's really nice; but only for Linux right now.

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  23. None of the above, Lotus Sametime with Notes by dominux · · Score: 2, Interesting

    yes, it isn't a consumer grade service, it is a service you have inside the corporate firewall. It was 5 years ahead of the competition 6 years ago and they haven't done much to it since, but on the plus side you can integrate it with Notes applications so every time a name appears anywhere on a form in a Notes database (expenses form, discussion database, document library etc.) it grows a little green icon you can click on to chat with the relevant person. Buddy list does not belong in a little window all by itself, IM awareness should be spread over all applications, anywhere there is a name I want to click to chat or mail, or VOIP or screenshare or webcam etc.

  24. AIM Has Invisibility by JoshDanziger · · Score: 2, Informative

    Just to clarify, the AIM protocol does allow you to go invisible. There's a little eye-ball looking thing at the top of your buddy list in the AIM client. Click it, and the eye closes. Voila! You are invisible. In GAIM, the same can be done under GAIM. Tools->Away->Invisible.

  25. Good protocol is useless, if by everphilski · · Score: 2

    A good protocol is useless if the people you are trying to keep in touch with aren't using it. I use AIM solely because that's what all of my friends use. Chat_Client_X might be better but if the people I need to keep in contact with aren't using it, what's the point?

    -everphilski-

    1. Re:Good protocol is useless, if by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 4, Interesting

      A good protocol is useless if the people you are trying to keep in touch with aren't using it. I use AIM solely because that's what all of my friends use. Chat_Client_X might be better but if the people I need to keep in contact with aren't using it, what's the point?

      By your logic the only way to switch protocols would be if all your friends did so simultaneously or if you got new friends. Thus you are locked in forever. Here's an out. Set up your own Jabber server for you and your friends and configure it to have a bridge to the protocol you are currently using. Then you can still chat with the same people over the same protocol, but you can also chat with people over Jabber and if both you and the other person are using Jabber you can have end-to-end encryption and a secure server. If enough people switch over via this method, we can all ditch these proprietary walled gardens and everyone will be able to chat with everyone using the client of their choice.

    2. Re:Good protocol is useless, if by deceased+comrade · · Score: 2, Insightful

      How do you explain this to your idiot friends, who will invariably want to know if smarterchild will be there? Jabber is a wonderful idea, but until people are forced to move (or are persuaded to by their current IM service by way of fees, or ineptitude), until people need to they won't want to change anything, because to 99% of the populus, "hey, whats up" needs no plausable deniabilty, and those conversations that do ("150 for an ounce?!") get lost easily enough to provide shelter in statistics. Basically, people dont care if their messenger is that great, because i run google talk, and it does me no good all because my buddy isnt there too.

  26. With a good plugin... by irregular_hero · · Score: 3, Informative

    Trillian Pro can do that -- including SIP messaging with Live Communications Server -- with the (very alpha) SIP plugin for Trillian located here.

  27. Waiting until google integrates them... by bergeron76 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    That's probably going to be the "best" integration of the technologies.

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  28. gaim for its simplicity by Paralizer · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Gaim takes the award in my book for ease of use and simplistic design.

    I use Gaim to connect to the AOL IM servers, and I've found it surpasses the traditional AOL AIM client by far, as well as alternatives such as Trillian (bloated and graphically immense.)

    The Gaim interface can be customized down to being nothing but a window with a list of user names (customizable names can be introduced for your list), and has optional buttons on the bottom of the user list for quick action. Bottom buttons can be graphics, textual, or removed entirely. This is a user list interface at its best.

    The user list spawns a traditional 1-on-1 chat window with a remote client, and supports tabs allowing switching between conversations easy, as well as noting other conversation changes without needing to reference another window.

    Gaim is portable, and runs on Linux, Mac, and Windows.

    Gaim is modular. I have quite a few nice little plugins that do interesting tricks. For example, if I'm too busy to respond to someones IM (this is rare), there is a plugin to set your idle time. Sure it may be a little cheap, but it allows me to avoid talking to someone if I'm deep in writing code without making them feel like I'm just ignoring them if they see I've been idle for say, 20 minutes or so.

    I also find Gaim's logging system efficient. The AOL IM client tends to save all logs in HTML format, including all the color tags and formatting. This seems to me to be a waste in hdd space (granted it's small, it's still annoying.) Gaim saves only the textual information, and provides a nice interface to viewing and searching logs based on the user you're searching for and the date of the conversation.

    Being a developer myself I think it would be beneficial if there were some sort of drawing utility on the client, similar to a traditional chat window but with graphical point-and-draw type interface. A feature such as this would help in discussing new ideas for programs between developers, or perhaps go as far as drawing driving directions for friends.

    Of course if we're talking "chat rooms" where the communication line is more than 1-to-1, IRC is always the best :) In that case I would recommend X-Chat.

  29. iChat working with MSN, ICQ, Yahoo! by Lord+Satri · · Score: 3, Informative

    in addition to AIM and Jabber. How? They explain it right there:
    http://allforces.com/2005/05/06/ichat-to-msn-throu gh-jabber

    A lot of friends told me about Adium. But hey, I love software integration and iChat integrates with Mail and AddressBook in a way Adium won't be able to. Both (Adium and iChat) have pros and cons, but it's nice to know you can use iChat for -all- IM protocols :-)

  30. Bitlbee changed my life by Crimsane · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Bitlbee is an irc gateway to all the messenger clients. This means that I can communicate with my MSN contacts over (what appears to me to be) irc.

    This means I can run screen+irssi+bitlbee on my home server, and will never disconnect from any of my msn,aim,irc,etc and will be able to rejoin my clients from wherever in the world I am (very important for a laptop user like myself).

    It organized all of my streams of communication into one single, easy, clean interface (irssi, really, but still) and allows me to manage my time much more efficiently then before. (not to mention the benefits of never logging off, so people can send you messages and you can pick them up without having to be "on line" at that moment.

    I'm looking forward to naming my firstborn after it.

  31. Whatever happened to Trepia? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    A few years ago, an IM client called Trepia was released (it was even featured on Slashdot). You could enter your geographical location, and it would display people in a "Buddy List" of sorts based upon how close to you they were. It was a neat way of finding local people to chat with.

    It seemed to have a lot of promise, then one day it wouldn't connect to the server, and trepia.com got redirected to its author's homepage. Now the domain's been bought up by a squatter.

    What ever happened to Trepia, does anyone know?

  32. Miranda by eddy · · Score: 4, Informative

    Miranda is one app that keeps me on Windows... and it keeps reminding my why all other clients suck. Every now or then I'll try GAIM, but I actually prefer CenterICQ....

    Miranda is small, modular, has simple & coherent interface (looks like a native application, not some sort of freakish eXXXTreeeme-Teeenage-Mega-Skinzz-application), protocols galore, etc.

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    1. Re:Miranda by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You sir are correct! I have been using Mirand-IM for many many months and it is by far the best client I have ever used. Simple, clean, no-nonesense - it just works.

  33. Jabber for me by Data · · Score: 2, Informative

    Sure, you can use Gaim or Trillian to connect to multiple networks but why not use the proper protocol - Jabber - and let the server do the work for you? Just pick a jabber server with MSN, ICQ, AIM and Yahoo transports. Then it doesn't matter which client you use, as long as it supports jabber you're fine.

    I would choose Psi http://psi-im.org/psi.affinix.com/ if you work in Windows or KDE and Gajim http://www.gajim.org/index.php?lang=en for Gnome.

    Plus, you can install all sorts of nifty tools on the Jabber server: email checking, receive RSS feeds, control your jukebox...

  34. numbers are good by gullevek · · Score: 2, Interesting

    - you could change your nick anytime
    - I still remember my ICQ number :)

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    1. Re:numbers are good by Solosoft · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I managed to get lucky and my ICQ number is 26262929 (add me if you want I guess I'll talk ...) ive not really used ICQ for anything other then to idle on in years. People stopped using it back in 1998 when it got REALLY bloaty. I remember running it on my PII 350 (at the time a power machine) and it was slow as cheese. It had so many features and stuff but I guess there has to be a happy medium. The one thing I miss is the ytalk style chat where you can see as people type.

      Ah the days ... giver if you want to and add me to ICQ if you wish.

      What made the numbers sane on ICQ is the amazing search it used to have (which also caused alot of IM spam)

    2. Re:numbers are good by einTier · · Score: 2, Informative
      I think the reason people choose one IM over the other is similar to why kids choose one console over the other -- what do your friends have?

      Sounds dumb, and it also sounds like a self-fullfilling prophecy, but I think that's it. I didn't originally choose ICQ for its feature set, I chose it because that's what my friends had. Same goes for every other client I've installed, including the godawful Lotus IM client and MSN's messenger. The last two I installed because that's what work mandated we use.

      As anecdotal evidence, I ask you if you've ever tried getting someone to switch over to whatever client you use? No matter what arguments you use for your client being better, it always boils down to, "yeah, but everyone else I know is on ICQ|MSN|Whatever." So, eventually, we all end up installing every known client just to be able to intercommunicate.

      Of course, this begs the question, what made the original adopters choose Yahoo! over ICQ over whatever else? I don't have an answer for that one, but I think it was whichever one they happened to find first. I don't think its the kind of thing many people research.

      For the record, I now use Trillian. Works with everything, I don't have 5 clients running at once, and it more or less makes everything seem like one big network rather than 5 discrete ones.

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    3. Re:numbers are good by AnthonyZEO · · Score: 2, Funny

      Unbelievable!

      You are the first person I have ever seen that has a higher ICQ number than me! Yes! I joined before someone else! I'm not the last ICQ user ever!!! 18228324 IN YOUR FACE!!!

    4. Re:numbers are good by baadger · · Score: 2, Informative

      Try Miranda IM for Windows, it's a great little free resource light and open source client with a simple dll drop in folder for protocols and other plugins, of which there are plenty.

      There are plugins for MSN, Jabber, ICQ, IRC (which is actually reasonably well done IMO), Yahoo, AIM, Gadu-Gadu and Skype (it's just an API wrapper, so you need the official client installed still). It comes with some of these by default, but you can simply unload and delete the dll's of the protocols you don't use.

      It makes GAIM look like bloatware. I'm still looking for a *nix equivalent :(

  35. Re:Trillian, Trilllian, Trillian by lonb · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Trillian does all of these things, and much more. Instead of just saying things it SHOULD NOT do, how about moving those things into prefs or optional plugins, via a rich api for plugins.

    I think Trillian is by far the best I've seen. I bought the pay version (like $25) because I loved the free version. The pay version is even better, with the best logging/activity history I've seen.

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  36. List of useful features by francisew · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Useful features:

    1. Cross platform (First and most important!)
      I expect the chat program to tackle at the very least windows, mac and linux.
    2. Small footprint
      Way too many IM's are bloated to the point where the system is appreciably slow.
    3. File transfer utility
      We all need to send a zip, or gif at some point. Though I find the 'user pictures' cute, I think they add significant bloat.
    4. Accept/Decline contacts
      This is critical. If you can't keep someone off your contacts, IM spam ensues.
    5. Contact notifier window
      A list of who is online & offline.
    6. Low bandwidth
      Low bandwith usually results low latency, when the connection is slow.
    7. Audio connection
      I'd like to be able to have a voice conversation, with text IM's.
    8. Video connection
      I'd also like to be able to add a video stream.
    9. Open standard, and open network
      Way too many clients lock their network, and so we have this huge network fragmentation. I don't mind if my friends want their own clients which have the nice bubbly windows and 'user photos', I just don't want to *have* to run them myself.
    10. Extensibility via modular plugins.
      If someone want to play a game via their IM, then go right ahead.
    11. Conferencing ability
      I'm not sure how often I would use this, but it would be very useful when I do need to use it.
  37. For the Lazy by DrYak · · Score: 2, Informative

    GoogleTalk in Gaim :

    - for the messages, use jabber :
    explained here, or in short :
    Screen name : your gmail name (djsmiley2k)
    Server : gmail.com
    Password : (your gmail password)
    Under Jabber option, Connect server : talk.google.com

    - for the voice :
    SIP isn't supported by Gaim, yet.
    There was a fork experimenting with voice, Gaim-VV.
    They did manage to get something interesting to work, and now they're working to port back their results into the main Gaim.
    According to gaim's news, it'll be included in version 2.0.
    Best part, one of the developper has been hired by google to make sure that gaim works with google talk's feature.

    For your "IM window taking over the PC", it's a window manager problem.

    Under Linux, it's just some settings to tweak
    - KDE's control pannel "Desktop" - "Windows behaviour" - then play with "advanced" option (how much is it easy/hard to ask for focus) or "focus" (like "focus follows mouse", never get your focus stollen. Old school unix style)

    Under Windows, well... the window manager just sucks. You must find another way.
    - You may try Gaim - Tools - "Preferences" - "Plugins"
    "notification icon" (message can stay minimized (and not focused) until you clic on icon, like on old icq98 client)
    "message notification" (set different ways to alert about new message, like changing the title instead of asking for focus)
    and optionnally you can install the "guifications" plugin (use "toaster" non-focused windows, like MSN. Effects on 3D games may vary. Doesn't show up when playing games on my old 3DFx Voodoo 5)

    - There may be free tools (the "check against spyware before installing" kind) that can control the focusing behaviour of windows.

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  38. BitlBee + rcirc by bkhl · · Score: 3, Informative

    I use BitlBee in rcirc. All the protocols you mention, plus IRC, ICQ, Jabber and Yahoo, all from a unified interface within the comfort of Emacs. BitlBee also works with your IRC client of choice, of course.

  39. AIM steals focus by British · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The worst aspect of AIM was the "focus stealing" aspect, also present in MSI Installer. NO program EVER should pop up a window and instantly put focus to it. Never, No. Flash it, but don't come up to the front.

    Imagine you are talking dirty to your girlfriend in a long typing message, and then an unexpected IM from your grandma pops up, and it's too late, you hit enter. Your message of "....and I'm gonna lick your clit" ends up being sent to grandma.

    Yeah, it's never happened to me(happened to someone on bash.org), but a good IM client wouldn't let you do that.

    1. Re:AIM steals focus by mdarksbane · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't know how many times I've died in an MMO or other game because of this one stupid design flaw.

  40. ICQ by Paco103 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ICQ is the best protocol in my opinion - but certainly only with another client.
    Direct connections
    offline messaging
    e-mail an ICQ message to user (UIN@icq.org)
    server routing for when direct connects fail
    *per-buddy status* (always appear online to a couple of close friends, while mode goes away or busy for the rest of the world, or whatever you want to do)
    changeable nick names (can be over-ridden by user if a buddy changes their name too often to keep track of)
    talk from invisible mode

  41. If you are allready on IRC... by LatHans · · Score: 2, Informative

    ...then bitlbee is a great way to use your existing IRC client (mirc, irssi, xchat or whatever) to access jabber, google chat, msn, yahoo and oscar (aim/icq). It's not perfect, it will not allow you to send or receive files (yet), but if you're fed up with bloated GUI clients, and are allready using an IRC client, it may be the best choice. At least you'll have all your chatting in one client.

  42. Pseudo troll alert by dustpuppy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    > Trillian is extremely overrated.

    How about saying why?

    I have used GAIM, Trillian Basic and Pro versions and found all were pretty good. In the end, I found GAIM to be a bit too 'clunky' and settled on Trillian Pro (of which I have been very happy with it's performance and stability).

  43. One feature none of them has (as far as I know) by Atario · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A filter that slaps you in the face if you start typing in IM-speak.

    "u" for "you", "4" for "for", etc.
    More than one instance of "lol" per minute
    More than two exclamation points (possibly mixed with ones) in a row
    Smileys on more than one quarter of your messages
    And so on.

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    1. Re:One feature none of them has (as far as I know) by miyako · · Score: 3, Interesting

      GAIM actually automatically translates some common netspeak into proper english. "k" is translated to "Okay", and "u" to "You" for example. Not really all that useful since it only applies to outgoing messages, but if we could get everyone to use Gaim it would probably cut down on some of that crap people try to pass off as english. Plus it has a spell checker.
      Having a spell checker in my IM client is probably the single most useful feature I've ever had in any program I've ever used.

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    2. Re:One feature none of them has (as far as I know) by ratpack91 · · Score: 2, Funny

      i think you need a game of roflcopter

    3. Re:One feature none of them has (as far as I know) by Minwee · · Score: 2, Funny

      That must be why every time I talk about electronic components the resistors are always measured in "Okay Ohms" and the capacitors in "You Farads".

  44. It might sound very insignificant, but... by FauxFoe · · Score: 2, Insightful

    One of my favorite features of an IM client (which is present in both Google Talk and Adium) is the automatic grouping of multiple IMs from the same person. For example, if I type 5 lines before you type another, it only shows my name once with all 5 messages. I think it makes reading conversations much more pleasant :)

    Here's a screenshot of how Adium does it:
    http://www.adiumx.com/screenshots.php?show=overvie w.jpg

  45. Re:Trillian, Trilllian, Trillian by Watts+Martin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Adium is an open source IM client licensed under the GPL and based on libgaim. If you're calling it proprietary because it's Mac-only, when we're comparing it to the Windows-only, closed source Trillian, that's a little... dubious.

  46. Jabber is Underrated by vga_init · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Granted, I've always been a huge jabber advocate, but I honestly don't see why more people here don't recommend it. A lot of features that are cited in other posts that are foudn in the more popular protocols that make them unique from one another are already present in jabber: permissions, offline messages, various status options, logging (not really a protocol feature). The protocol is easy-as-pie XML, and the is open and standard so that the sky is the limit as to how clients can choose to interact with one another. I've always found the protocol to be very flexible, and there are a lot of tiny little features that make it a pleasure to use (subscription management, anonymous chatting, etc etc).

  47. Honestly, I don't care about the client.... by merreborn · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's the people on the network that keep me signing on. My family uses Yahoo, a few friends use MSN, and a few use AIM. (In the past AIM was great because you could use it to talk to AOL users for free, but these days, I don't know any)

    If I want to talk to all of them, I have use all three clients. In my experience most people install IM clients for the same reason -- a friend says, "You should download [AIM/Y!M/MSN] and chat with me! My screenname is veronica696969". No one really cares how many custom smilies any given client supports -- they're mostly all Good Enough at their basic job -- rapid transport of small snippits of text.

    On a completely unrelated note, the following AOL screennames are already taken:
    veronica69
    veronica6969
    veronica696969
    veronica69696969 ...Appearantly, the Veronicas of the world are a rather uncreative bunch.

    Don't ask me why I know that.

  48. There is no good IM program by slaker · · Score: 2, Informative

    I have said this before when the subject of IM software comes up:
    There is no such thing as good IM software. Everyone has a perfectly good, universal "instant message" protocol. It's called SMTP.

    What's wrong with IM?
    Well, to talk to everyone you might want to talk to, you need multiple sign-ons for each of the incompatible networks. And you have to configure either a universal client that's going to be borked periodically by official protocol updates, or you have to load five or six "official" clients on your computer.

    Plus you have to be willing to trust each company whose IM software you want to use. Is their software secure? Are their servers? How much information is leaked out your PC when you use their protocol? Will they give you a date with an advertising bot?

    No thanks.
    E-mail is universal, not controlled by any single company and can easily be secured. What's not to love about that?

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  49. Re:Those already exist, but I'd like by jZnat · · Score: 3, Informative

    # Grouping of nicks under a single nick, so you'd only have to click on the nick and the first available (or even preferred) protocol client would be connected. This would also hold for "pounces" - Those messages saved and autosent when one of the nicks becomes available/meets criteria.

    That's already a feature...

    # Transparent encryption - always encrypt for a protocol, and make those protocols/clients with encryption the preferred protocol for a particular nick with multiple clients.

    They've already gone over that and why it wouldn't be a built-in feature until an actual protocol supports real encryption as a feature.

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  50. i'll tell you by bennyp · · Score: 2, Insightful

    adium, growl and quicksilver, that's what

    word

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  51. Mobile! by ritterwolf · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think an important feature of an IM client is the ability to take it with you. An all-bells-and-whistles version chained to a PC is pretty useless if you are in the middle of a conversation and need to move..cos really, the important feature of an IM client is the ability to have A CONVERSATION. Are they on AIM, ICQ, MSN, Yahoo??? Who gives a rats-ass...you have the conversation thru the medium that is convenient.Even though i work on a laptop, i am not about to carry that with me on the train or to a game. Even a PDA is more than i want to carry most of the time....actually...all of the time! My zaurus has been laying dormant in a draw for months. Anyway...needs to be mobile....and i have only seen 2 applications that run across a variety of phones that support multiple protocols... Oz Mobile IM http://www.oz.com/ & mobichat http://www.mobichat.com/. At $1 per day per protocol, Oz mobile IM is going to sting the wallet a little though.

  52. Real time text display. by partridge · · Score: 2, Informative

    What I really miss from the old-school days is the *nix talk command. Yes I know people still use it, but I really find it striking how much contextual information can be carried in visually watching someone type characters out one by one and correcting their errors in real time. It really is different from the "compose and hit return" method most protocols use these days, and I find it really makes the interaction more like a conversation. Especially since you can both be typing and be reading things at the same time which is much like talking over each other.

  53. GAIM and GAIM-VV by phorm · · Score: 2, Informative

    Just FYI, if you're not a GAIM user but like the videoconferencing etc features of your various IM's, keep a watch. The 2.x version of GAIM is supposed to re-merge the GAIM-VV (Voice+Video) forks so that it not only supposed multicliented goodness, but many of the media features as well.

  54. Trillian!!! by noc007 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I've been using Trillian since the 0.5x days and have continued till this day. I've used GAIM before, but Trillian works best. I don't see a need to upgrade to the Pro version for what I use it for, but I suggest looking at GAIM, Trillian Basic (free!), and Trillian Pro to see what fits you best.

    Pluses (Some have already been listed above)
    - Free version has a lot of great features
    - Great for consolidating your IMs
    - Pretty much all of the features that you would find in any of the standard standalone IM clients
    - It allows you to use more than one screen name per network (i.e. two AIM accounts)
    - Can do accounts/profiles for different users (i.e. family members with their individual IM account sets)
    - Conversation logging with date and time stamps (good for ass saving or ass kicking)
    - Available conversation encryption between another Trillian client/user
    - Some keyboard shortcuts can be customized
    - Quick configuration option finding
    - IM network plugins (i.e. modular design)
    - Hot update on plugins
    - Easy connect, disconnect, away, here, etc. between one or all IM accounts
    - XML Skinnable with complete UI customization
    - Has an IRC client as well (what it started out as)

    Minuses
    - Difficulty with transferring files (I haven't gotten it to work, but I could be doing something wrong)

    I am currently using the Basic version to connect a MSN, Yahoo, ICQ, and two AIM accounts. The logging feature is great and quite handy. I highly recommend you try it.

  55. Re:Perhaps somewhat like: by Amiasian · · Score: 2, Informative

    It doesn't? That's curious, mine's been pulling data from my Address Book for some time now. What sort of features are you looking with this integration, though?