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Fujifilm Blu-ray & HD DVD Media Mid 2006
Michael writes to tell us TheTechLounge is reporting that Fuji Film has announced the release of Blu-Ray and HD DVD media by mid 2006. From the article: "Consumers are driving demand for interactive gaming and entertainment applications that require enormous storage capacity," noted Steve Solomon, Senior Vice President and General Manager, Recording Media Division, Fuji Photo Film U.S.A. "Fujifilm coating technology will ensure the precision and quality of signal strength in these new media formats. The success of new recording technologies depends on the availability of affordable, reliable media and our scientists are already working to perfect next-generation storage solutions, long before they hit the market."
I'll pick up a few when I go out for my copy of Duke Nuken Forever in my rocket car.
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Where's my player/recorder/for $1000+ Alex?
With mainstream adoption of high definition (HD) content, television sets and recording devices, consumers and retailers will need new storage technologies to handle ever-expanding digitized files. For example, a two-hour program in HD creates a digital file roughly 15-25 Gigabytes in size, or the equivalent of more than 13 hours of standard-definition TV.
I got a HDTV for the purpose of watching high definition television. True I can get HDTV cable, satellite, etc. however if I want to watch my favorite documentary, I would prefer it HD then standard, same goes for all the other movies I love to watch.
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I, for one, welcome our new DRM overlords.
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That "article" is a press release. Written by Fugifilm, or someone that thinks very very highly of them.
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I mean, it's nice to know that they predict mid 2006 for the arrival of the media, but that's really the only nugget of news in both the article and
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"or 8,000 times more data than a human brain retains in a lifetime." Since when did the human brain retain 125GB of data? Anyone know where this comes from or did they just pull it out of their ass?
So I'd, you know, save my money for now. (You'll probably need it for a new operating system anyway, based on some other stuff he was saying.)
So what's the story on the new Yonah Blu-ray mini-book? Is it good or is it whack?
Wait, HD-DVD uses analog recording now? Floating point? How exactly do you make a binary signal more "precise"?
...giving us reasonably priced dual-layer DVD-R first?
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"A single terabyte of holographic disc storage is roughly the equivalent of 16 days of continuously running DVD movies, or 8,000 times more data than a human brain retains in a lifetime."
It's funny that the same human brain that created this breakthrough can't match its capacity, but it is still smart enough to create a device that can.
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"Consumers are driving demand for interactive gaming and entertainment applications that require enormous storage capacity,"
Eh? What is this guy going on about? The number of pieces of media, excluding films, that come in DVD format is tiny. I admit that I haven't bought many games recently but I don't own a single one in DVD format and I don't remember seeing any that did. As for music - well enough said. So I ask you: what are there entertainment applications (not it's plural) that require massive storage?
The other thing I have a problem with is the way they bang on about perfecting the media before it hits the market. Isn't that what's supposed to happen anyway? Perhaps we have all just become used to things not working for the first couple of releases.
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"or 8,000 times more data than a human brain retains in a lifetime." Since when did the human brain retain 125GB of data? Anyone know where this comes from or did they just pull it out of their ass?
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According to an article on wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_Versatil e_Disc) a 300GB HVD disk is due Q3 2006 and an 800GB disk in 2007. If the cost of HVD manages to reach a similar price point to Blu-Ray/HD-DVD then both these media are going to end up dead in the water.....
If the industry can't agree on the DRM that will be put in place what does it matter if panasonic has players and fuji has media?
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Rings, Harry and Kong to go high-def
As studios dish slate news at Consumer Electronics Show
By Scott Hettrick 1/3/2006
JAN. 4 | The Mission: Impossible and Lord of the Rings trilogies as well as Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire and Peter Jacksons King Kong all will be released on high-definition digital discs this year.
At the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas this week, almost every studio is expected to announce the first slate of high-def digital disc titles coming to market in 2006. More than 75 new and old movies and TV shows are expected with the introduction of the first DVD player, with dozens and maybe hundreds more by the end of the year.
Sony Pictures Home Entertainment, the studio with the most at stake in its Blu-ray Disc format, is being the most aggressive with plans to introduce the upcoming theatrical release Underworld Evolution day-and-date with the DVD in late spring/early summer. The studio will have 20 Sony and MGM titles including XXX and Robocop ready to go even earlier, when players are expected to be released as early as March.
Sony also will release four catalog titles each month beginning this summer, every new theatrical release day-and-date on DVD and Blu-ray Disc and the first high-def version of a TV series to be announced so far from a major studio, Stargate: Atlantis.
Additionally, Sony is going out on a limb and committing to the debut of two titles--Bridge on the River Kwai and Black Hawk Down--using the 50GB dual-layer Blu-ray Disc, which has been running behind development time from the standard 25GB single-layer disc.
The studio also is announcing plans Wednesday for summer titles featuring advanced interactive gaming using the BD Java software, which has sparked some dissension from Hewlett-Packard within the Blu-ray Disc camp. SPHE president Ben Feingold said the process is too far along now to turn back and not use BD Java.
As for the 50GB dual-layer disc, Feingold said both movies have long running times as well as hours of bonus features that the studio has produced but been unable to release on DVD because they take up too much space.
Sony also will take advantage of the enormous additional capacity to use uncompressed audio on some of its Blu-ray Disc titles, including two Sony/MGM titles in the first wave--The Fifth Element and The Last Waltz. Sony execs say that even movie theaters do not offer uncompressed digital audio.
Feingold said he expects to ship 50,000 to 100,000 units of each of the first titles, as compared to the 60,000 or so units for each of the first five movies shipped for PSP.
Other Blu-ray Disc backers, 20th Century Fox, Lionsgate and Paramount, announced their lineup of titles as well. Disney will announce its titles and other plans at a Blu-ray Disc media event at CES on Thursday evening.
20th Century Fox Home Entertainment president Mike Dunn said the studio will have five titles, including Fantastic Four and Ice Age, in stores two weeks prior to the release of the first Blu-ray Disc player by any manufacturer. Fox will release 20 titles by summer, also debuting most new theatrical titles day-and-date on DVD and Blu-ray.
Each title will have at least one feature unique to the new format and will include 10% to 20% of the bonus features from previously released or new DVDs and 80% new bonus elements, such as advanced branching and menus and including added value programming accessed through connections to other devices such as the Internet.
Fox also is preparing two sci-fi titles to be announced later that will take advantage of the extra capacity of the 50GB dual-layer disc.
We have material that we set aside a long time ago for these, Dunn said. Weve been working up to this and cataloging content for two years.
Lionsgate will release its traditional new-format driver Terminator 2 among its fir
Perhaps I'm one of the few that prefer riding the middle of the wave of technology, or the fact that I'm relatively non-wealthy prohibits me from buying the latest and greatest, but I'm going to wait a while for this to work itself out.
Balancing between DVD+ and DVD- is a pain enough as it is; having worked at both Best Buy and Wal-mart (in Electronics) for a short amount of time, the most asked question about writable media is "What's the difference between + and -?" followed by "Which one should I get?". It helps that most DVD burners are dual-format, so there isn't much of a worry about which one to buy, so after the initial explanation it isn't that much of a problem. (DVD Recorders, for TVs, tend to stick to one format for the cheaper ones, though I've found that some can record both even if they only list one.)
If HD DVD and Blu-ray are a format war, I'm living in Switzerland. Unless they create at least a reader that can read both formats (I haven't heard of one, yet), one will come out on top. In the mean time, I am not going to spend my money on media and a player that may quickly go defunct, especially if the various Hollywood studios split on which format to use (assuming they don't do both.)
I can see this being a big headache for stores- so many ill-informed (or just ignorant) consumers are going to buy one of the new discs, take it home, and be utterly miffed that it won't play on their player. They'll take it back, throw a tantrum, then pick out a different movie to exchange- and it will be in the same format as the one they just returned.
I figure it will take about two years for one of these formats to come out the winner. Unfortunatly, Sony's Blu-ray will probably take the cake, as it's being incorporated in the PS3, which could sell like the PS2 at its release. Hello, Mr. DRM!
In the mean time, since most companies will probably be wary over the format war, most movies/series will still be released on regular DVD, to the delight of myself and most consumers. It works great. The quality of DVDs are fine, in my opinion, and I don't have to worry about buying a new player (or three).
The best ending would be that both formats fail, and I don't think this is out of the question. While the "hipsters" out there may want bigger and better, middle America is a-ok with DVDs, and will probably still be by 2008. With both formats failed, either the various companies will realize that they need one standard and work together on that, or we'll just replay the whole thing over again.
I agree with the other person, I also enjoy the DRM warlords *wink wink* The sole purpose of DRM is to prevent us from so-called pirating movies/games/television shows. Well here comes a new contender, BluRay with its storage capacity to fit HD TV and movies on; well since DRM is a total POS, what's the point of Panasonic ever coming out with a BluRay writer if Microsoft and Sony *one of the primary sources of funding for BluRay* has complete control over it. Its another horrible attempt at controlling the market by Sony, just like with their UMD disks that came out with the PSP. With this, I am still buying a PlayStation 3, because the 360 just doesn't cut it.
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... So a full 2 hour program is 17GB
For example, a two-hour program in HD creates a digital file roughly 15-25 Gigabytes in size
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They are lying through exaggeration
Uh, last I checked 17GB was indeed between 15-25GB. And in any case it's more than a normal dvdr can hold anyway, so your point is hardly insightful or informative. Plus there is the issue of whenever (if ever) we start seeing a reasonable amount of 1080p content at high bitrates. Joe avg consumer is already happy with DVD, so the current target isn't someone who can compress the hell out of their HD content to make it fit the existing standard, it's those who want to push the envelope. Heck, we're not even talking about all the additional content that comes with videos these days. Both consumers and manufacturers would love to have a movie in 720/1080p with all the extra good bits and have to deal with only a single disc.
The Human Brain can take up 125 gb of starage unless you get a ram doubler, this will enable a maximum starage capacity of 300gb, but you have to watch out for memory leakage if you dont offload it in 24hours
Actually, that quote is from John Gilmore. In his piece Censorship 2000, John Perry Barlow himself attributes it to Gilmore speaking at the Second Computers Freedom and Privacy Conference.
last year they kept telling us we would have blu-ray stuff by the end of the year. why is this taking so long?
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Disclaimer: I am a doctoral student in a computational neuroscience program.
1) "quantum fluctuations" - there is no sizeable portion of the neuroscience community that believe this. Quantum effects are considered negligible for neuronal behavior.
2) "calcium dendrites which are attached to neurons" - dendrites are PARTS of neurons (the part that gets input from other neurons), not something attached to them. Yes, certain dendrites are sensitive to calcium. But other neurotransmittors are just as important.
But the end seems about right. We have no good idea of the limits of human memory. But also, we have next to no idea of how the brain stores memories. What you mention here is a wildly speculative theory.
Nero Burning ROM 7 supposedly has support for Blu-Ray discs (you can select it as a disc type when burning a disc image). I wonder if it actually supports them, or if it's just a placeholder for future functionality?
I am scientifically inaccurate.
So does anyone else with an HDTV not care about these HD formats?
I have a very nice home theatre and a huge HDTV, but I am not going to pay out the nose for something JUST because it will be in HD (*coughXbox2*).
First off, these first gen players are going to suck. First gen DVD players? They dont upscale, they dont have any advanced features, you wont find any with DVI or HDMI, and the PQ is sorely lacking in comparison to even a cheap DVD player today. It WILL be the same with these new HD players.
Secondly, how much content do we have that is 100% digital?
Star Wars prequels, LotR, and a few other big-name flicks are the only movies that are going to take any advantage of HD. The odds that studios are going to dig out the masters for all these old movies like they did for DVD are slim -theyre just going to re-release their old movies and claim that they are HD (which technically they will be, but never were to begin with), and these wont look any better than they do now on a good tv with a good upscaling DVD player. I'm not going to rebuy all my DVDs just because they were upscaled to 720p/1080i/1080p in a studio rather than by my DVD player.
I will get a HDDVD/Blu Ray player eventually, but even as a videophile, audiophile, and someone who spends way too much money on all that crap, I dont see any reason to have an HD format replace DVD at this time, much less spend more than $300 on a first to fourth gen product.
I work with one of the founding company of BluRay. For both business and technological reasons we will not begin production on end consumer blu-ray til '07 which means it will probably begin popularity in '08 provided all else goes very well. Shift from DVD has not started, in fact we have *just* started production on a next generation DVD-RW which comes with 400 gb HDD. A batch of 700 gb HDDs arrived coupla months ago for testing but never passed for production. However prototypes on bluray has been around since 2003. We have one of the first models sitting on display somewhere around.
My point is: even the big companies (at least the one i'm in) are doubtfull of a proper strategy with BluRay. I dont think the following model works.
1. Make BluRay
2. ????
3. PROFIT!!!
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44.1kHz was chosen because it's a sub-carrier of the PAL frequency used to broadcast TV in Europe/Asia. There are two types even: pro and consumer (44100 and 44109 I think but I forget the details). It was to make the broadcast of digital sound (Like NICAM) easier to do over analogue pictures. Nobody predicted digital pictures at that time, just digital sound. What you've said is an urban myth.
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