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Felony For Refreshing a Web Page?

therandomw writes "An 18 year-old boy was recently arrested in Ohio for telling fellow students to refresh the schools web page in order to slow down the server. He is being charged with a felony and is currently being held in jail. According to Canton City Prosecutor Frank Forchione 'This new technology has created a whole wave of crimes, and we're just trying to find ways to solve them.'"

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  1. must be more zero tolerance by yagu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    AFAIK this barely even brushes up against being a felony, but let the school officials have their fun! Had they just ignored this and let it go (maybe take the kid aside and dress him down a bit), this would have slipped off the radar in half a day. As it is, they've loaded, locked, and are about to fire, aiming right at their own feet.

    BTW, I'm just wondering who the first brave soul in slashdot is who will actually post the schools URL. (Also, BTW, it's pretty easily found in Google: Lake High School Uniontown Ohio, duh).

    1. Re:must be more zero tolerance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
    2. Re:must be more zero tolerance by Bin_jammin · · Score: 4, Funny

      Maybe someone will post a mirror and we can reload that. That'll show 'em.

    3. Re:must be more zero tolerance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Boy if they thought a few people in a chat room would be bad....

      Or

      Witness the firepower of a fully armed and operational slashdotting!!

    4. Re:must be more zero tolerance by SoCalChris · · Score: 5, Insightful

      From TFA:

      It's not the first time local officials have investigated situations where students are misusing computers. Forchione noted a 2005 case in which four Jackson High School students were charged with misdemeanors after being caught accessing the school computer system. Some grades were changed.

      So, breaking in to the school's computer system, and changing grades is a misdemeanor, but encouraging people to visit the school's publicly posted website is a felony?

      Yeah, I know the kid had malicious intentions, but why is this a felony when actually breaking into their system and causing damage is only a misdemeanor?

      "Michael said it was a joke," Forchione said. "We showed him how we deal with this kind of joke."

      This prosecutor needs to be smacked.

    5. Re:must be more zero tolerance by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Funny
      Does this mean I'm going to be charged with a felony? I can't wait for the extradition hearing?

      "Your honor, the defendant is accused of taking part in a Slashdotting of a high school web server in the United States, and faces felony charges."

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    6. Re:must be more zero tolerance by MightyMartian · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If I tell all my friends to drive up and down mainstreet a thousand times a day to wear down the pavement, have I committed a felony?

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    7. Re:must be more zero tolerance by jfern · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It's been Slashdotted due to lots of felony web page refreshings. The irony.

    8. Re:must be more zero tolerance by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If I tell all my friends to drive up and down mainstreet a thousand times a day to wear down the pavement, have I committed a felony?

      If your friends deny the use of Main Street to other motorists, you can expect to be hit with at least a misdemeanor charge for being a public nuisance. Operating a motorcade with out a permit and "cruising" too, if laws against those behaviors exist in your town and the police who trace the activity back to you want to send a message.

      It's common sense. "Take a penny" trays don't give you the right to reach over and empty the register, and neither does granting of access to any other resource give you the right to hoard and abuse an unreasonable share of that resource.

    9. Re:must be more zero tolerance by User+956 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "Michael said it was a joke," Forchione said. "We showed him how we deal with this kind of joke."

      Yes. They deal with this kind of joke by wasting actual public resources (police, prosecutor, court staff, et cetera). Splendid.

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    10. Re:must be more zero tolerance by Philip+K+Dickhead · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hell,

      Doing F-5 on /. is normal, no?

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    11. Re:must be more zero tolerance by DarkClown · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Wow, this 'kid' is 18, as in he's an adult legal record wise, so if he's found guilty, and then say gets deferred adjudication he will still have a felony arrest on his record for life.
      Pretty whack.

    12. Re:must be more zero tolerance by Rei · · Score: 5, Informative

      If anyone wants to try and reach the kid (Michael Stone) to offer support, the Stark County Jail's contact info is:

      4500 Atlantic Blvd. NE
      Canton, OH 44705
      Phone: 330-430-3850
      Fax: 330-430-3839
      Sherriff W. Bruce Umpleby

      I can't find the boy's home phone to leave support messages there, although the article mentions that his address is:

      13634 Mogadore Ave N.W.
      Canton, OH (44685? Google maps finds the address, but USPS's site doesn't)

      Which is a nice looking suburban home:

      http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=13634+Moga dore+Ave.+NW.,+Canton,+OH&btnG=Search&ll=40.95199, -81.39827&spn=0.005348,0.013465&t=k

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    13. Re:must be more zero tolerance by TBone · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's not a "zero tolerance" issue, the kid, in a low-tech, manual way, instigated a Distributed Denial of Service attack against his school's computers.

      The only difference here is this kid used a bunch of friend's fingers on the F5 key instead of a BotNet to get the job done.

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    14. Re:must be more zero tolerance by metternich · · Score: 2, Funny

      You know gouys, They might just use the /.ing of the site as evidence against him in the trial.

      See how destructive his actions were, your honor. The school's servers were down for days.

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    15. Re:must be more zero tolerance by Mr.+McGibby · · Score: 3, Informative

      Google maps finds the address, but USPS's site doesn't

      Well, what you're doing (coverting from an address to a map location) is called geocoding and it isn't quite an exact science. local.live.com points the same address to a location a ways south on the same road. So the house you're seeing is quite possibly not his at all. Oftentimes, the only data to go on is a start address and end address for a long section of road. Then interpolation is used in the middle. So take that stuff with a grain of salt.

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    16. Re:must be more zero tolerance by Rei · · Score: 4, Informative

      I think the kid could have a case on the grounds of Brandenburg v. Ohio. His speech could only be illegal if it was directed to inciting and likely to incite imminent lawless action. In the case, Brandenburg was a KKK leader who invited a reporter to come see a clan meeting. The reporter taped him referenced the possibility of "revenge" against blacks and jews, and hostilly announced a march on congress. He was charged and convicted with trying to incite violent action, and the courts reaffirmed it, up to the Supreme Court which overturned it under the "intent", "imminence" and "likelyhood" standard for the inciting of lawless behavior.

      1) The kid denies intent. That might be a hard sell, but it has potential.

      2) Imminence and likelyhood: did any other kids even care about the site? Did anyone follow through? Quickly? That could be a show stopper right there.

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    17. Re:must be more zero tolerance by Aeiri · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's common sense. "Take a penny" trays don't give you the right to reach over and empty the register, and neither does granting of access to any other resource give you the right to hoard and abuse an unreasonable share of that resource.

      It's also common sense that your analogy doesn't work. If you are driving up and down on the public road, and "hoard and abuse an unreasonable share of that resource", you are driving up and down on the road all day. If you take a penny, and "hoard and abuse an unreasonable share of that resource", you are taking all the pennies in the tray, not taking from the register.

      Taking from the register in this case is like driving around on someone's private property, not on public property. The gas station never said you could touch the register whatsoever, but the tray they said you could. Likewise, the private property owner never said you could drive around on his property, but the public property is okay.

    18. Re:must be more zero tolerance by superdominican · · Score: 4, Funny

      This story is very important. Slashdot should follow for the next few months. Make sure the URL is posted during that time so that we can be kept up to date on what their side of teh story is.

    19. Re:must be more zero tolerance by aplusjimages · · Score: 3, Funny

      I think they took it down. Now I can't see whats for lunch on Monday.

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    20. Re:must be more zero tolerance by mindaktiviti · · Score: 4, Funny

      I tried your link but it didn't work, so then I tried refreshing a bunch of times but it still didn't work! :(

    21. Re:must be more zero tolerance by ABaumann · · Score: 3, Funny

      Actually, I think it's just the opposite.

      "It couldn't possibly be him. He was in jail at the time of the second attack."

    22. Re:must be more zero tolerance by jimicus · · Score: 4, Funny

      It really was a joke to say that the site would crash, because it wouldn't - and didn't.

      Until it was slashdotted.

    23. Re:must be more zero tolerance by symbolic · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That server (or those servers) are getting a real workout - this was also on digg a bit earlier.

    24. Re:must be more zero tolerance by chphilli · · Score: 3, Funny

      Wow - you saw how much trouble this kid is in for refreshing his school's website, now you're trying to Snail-Slash the Stark county jail? You're brave!

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    25. Re:must be more zero tolerance by pete6677 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That explains it right there. The prosecutor is just grandstanding; trying to look progressive by "fighting cybercrime". I don't think he has the slightest clue what an ass he will look like once this filters throught the national news. The taxpayers probably won't appreciate his waste of public resources either. In fact, I think the kid's family will probably succeed with a malicious prosecution lawsuit and get a settlement for "unspecified damages".

    26. Re:must be more zero tolerance by Headcase88 · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's a very valuable page. No wonder the school and police were after this fellow. He wasn't just taking some lousy page that no one read in the last 3 months temporarily out of service, he was trying to stop students from "achiev[ing] their full potential for intellectual and personal growth". Clearly, he had to be stopped before he went on to more illustrious crimes like overwhelming the server that powers the site about sidetalking.

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    27. Re:must be more zero tolerance by Firehed · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If refreshing is a felony, what does a slashdotting and being dugg count for then? I'm thinking whatever a DDOS gets you, by their standards. No wonder prisons are overcrowded.

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    28. Re:must be more zero tolerance by dogbreathcanada · · Score: 2, Funny

      Does this mean we're all going to be charged with a felony too?

    29. Re:must be more zero tolerance by JesseMcDonald · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I would think that one criteria you didn't list would be even more significant to this case: inciting imminent lawless action.

      Since when is it "lawless action" to reload a web page with the refresh button? Is a person "incit[ing] imminent lawless action" if they ask a bunch of friends to call the school's main office (for example)? Why should that be any different? If it was illegal to call the office (or load the web page) then this would make sense, but those actions are not illegal at present. How can it be a felony to incite lawful action?

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    30. Re:must be more zero tolerance by ingoldsby · · Score: 2, Funny

      Heh...

      Unable to connect
      Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at lake.stark.k12.oh.us.

      * The site could be temporarily unavailable or too busy. Try again in a few moments.

      * If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer's network connection.

      * If your computer or network is protected by a firewall or proxy, make sure that Firefox is permitted to access the Web.

    31. Re:must be more zero tolerance by sharkey · · Score: 2, Funny

      Maybe if you design a mod for GTA that involves sodomizing a high school student in a small cement room with barred windows, Jack Thompson will donate his legal services.

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    32. Re:must be more zero tolerance by DASCOM2000 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yes the good old book thrown at this criminal

      Date Docket Entry
      01-06-2006 COPIES OF COMPLAINT SERVED ON DEFENDANT AND DEFENDANT APPEARRED AND ADVISED OF
                                      CHARGES PRELIMINARY HEARING SET FOR 01-12-2006 @ 3:15 PM
      01-06-2006 ON THIS DAY THE DEFENDANT APPEARED WITH 20850-JOHN GIUA ATTORNEY OF RECORD
      01-05-2006 BOND POSTED $2,500.00 UNSECURED WITH SUPERVISION OF PTS DUE TO EMERGENCY
                                      RELEASE ON 01-04-2006
      01-05-2006 ARRAIGNMENT SET FOR 01-06-2006 @ 9:00 AM
      01-05-2006 DEFENDANT ARRESTED ON WARRANT 01-04-2006. TRANSFERRED TO STARK COUNTY JAIL IN
                                      LIEU BOND. FORM 8 FILED
      01-04-2006 PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND. REFER TO BOND SCHEDULE FOR BOND INFORMATION BY JUDGE
                                      RICHARD J. KUBILUS
      01-04-2006 DEFENDANT'S PHYSICAL DESCRIPTION FORM FILED AND ISSUED
      01-04-2006 WARRANT ISSUED ON 01/04/2006; (UNTWN)
      01-04-2006 2909.04 (F4) - DISRUPTING PUBLIC SERVICES COMPLAINT FILED

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    33. Re:must be more zero tolerance by MightyMartian · · Score: 2, Insightful
      The point is that this kid really committed any kind of felony. Mischieve that does no long-term harm, costs no real substantial amounts of money, and is based solely off the kid saying "yeah, make sure to hit refresh guys" is hard to even see in the misdemeanor category.

      Is it me, or are school administrations and school boards in the US being populated more and more frequently with the kind of people who don't seem to have actually graduated?

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    34. Re:must be more zero tolerance by Furmy · · Score: 2, Interesting
    35. Re:must be more zero tolerance by Turn-X+Alphonse · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Welcome to slashdot, not only do we do your job 100 times better for you, we also stalk you so we can slip into your life seemlessly..

      Seriously, you're going WAY beyond the "sane" limit here. It's kinda scary that you want his phone number and have his address..

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    36. Re:must be more zero tolerance by Obfuscant · · Score: 4, Insightful
      the school servers were simply not up to the task they were intended for,

      You know, if the school was trying to run a version of /. on their servers to provide a discussion forum for tens of thousands of people around the world, you'd be right.

      I doubt that is what the web server was intended to be doing, however. It was probably intended to provide information to local parents and students and people moving to the area.

      To pretend that anyone who wants to run a webserver needs to have the amount of hardware and bandwidth that /. uses just so it can do "the task [they] were intended for" is silly.

      ... as he merely linked to a site,

      Read the article. He did not "merely link" to a site. He created a link with an explicit request for people to repeatedly refresh the page with the intent to crash the school's site. It's a static page, so repeatedly refreshing it serves no purpose other than create needless page requests and services, which was his intent. And he got caught. Good.

      If it happened to a server you ran, you'd call it "denial of service". When it happens to someone else, it's "just the way the internet is supposed to work". Right.

    37. Re:must be more zero tolerance by Steepe · · Score: 5, Funny

      Population density != intellegence

      Actually I have found the reverse to be true, to a point. With a dense population, you have more stupid people per square block.

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    38. Re:must be more zero tolerance by Derek+Pomery · · Score: 2, Informative

      Starting nmap 3.83.DC13 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2006-01-07 00:06 EST
      Interesting ports on 66.144.97.98:
      (The 1665 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: filtered)
      PORT STATE SERVICE
      80/tcp closed http
      110/tcp open pop3

      Interesting. Look like they just shut down HTTP.
      Guess they are waiting for this to blow over.
      I mean - it could just be on different machines, or have crashed the server, but POP was still quite responsive.

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    39. Re:must be more zero tolerance by True+Grit · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, No, there's no "think" in there, and you forgot "Jim".

    40. Re:must be more zero tolerance by MntlChaos · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Fair enough. He encouraged others to do something which would harm the school district. So is organizing a massive write-in or phone-in campaign. It ties up resources for the target in all cases, but is still legal. The one exception to this is with regard to faxes (junk fax laws). It's up to the target to respond accordingly. He has the right to ask people to join in his campaign. Those people have a right to join him. Is he an asshole? absolutely. But dealing with assholes is a part of the cost of a free society.

    41. Re:must be more zero tolerance by Caiwyn · · Score: 2, Insightful

      He encouraged others to do something which would harm the school district. So is organizing a massive write-in or phone-in campaign. It ties up resources for the target in all cases, but is still legal.

      And that's exactly where the similarities end. A write-in or phone-in campaign is protected free speech, and has an explicit goal which is stated in the act itself. Your reference to "harm" being done to the district is dubious at best -- that is not the intended goal of such a campaign.

      This kid's actions were not "speech" in any form, and did not have an explicit goal other than to directly harm the district. If another goal was intended, it is not stated in the act itself.

      Grandparent poster is right. This kid pulled an easy denial-of-service attack. He SAID as much when he posted the link to the school's website and asked people to try to crash it.

      You will find that most crime requires both execution and intent. That's why refreshing a webpage as a matter of course isn't illegal, but doing so in an attempt to take down a web server is. It's also why "manslaughter" and "homicide" are separate criminal acts.

    42. Re:must be more zero tolerance by Lothsahn · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not quite. A massive phone in or write-in campaign to express your opinions is protected under free speech. It's the act of expressing your opinion on a specific issue, and that is protected.

      Hammering a server for fun and games is NOT free speech. He is not attempting to discuss a political or social issue; it is simply a DDOS, even if it is a very simple one.

      The issue isn't that he did something wrong. He did. The issue is the COMPLETE overreaction of the school officials.

      He's a KID (not an asshole, an 18 year old KID), for gosh sakes, and he's just having fun. Since when was fun so wrong in our society?

      Let's compare:
      1) Fifty years ago, when a kid made a minor offense such as:
      a) scratching some graffiti on a barn
      b) scaring a farmer's animals to create havoc

      He/she was forced to help the farmer for a few hours, or clean up their graffiti (community service). Now we throw them in JAIL and give them a FELONY charge which will follow them for the REST OF THEIR LIVES.

      It's not like he hacked the computer or tried to change his grades. He's probably a smart kid wondering if it's possible to overload a server simply refreshing a page. Let him learn, both about computers and the (reasonable) consequences of his actions. Wanna teach "computer ethics" in school? This is how. Make him clean the school or suspend him for a day or something.

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  2. Oh Crap! by rodgster · · Score: 5, Funny

    Fark!

    I just commited 7 felonies waiting for this story to appear.

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  3. Must Have A Pretty Bad Webserver by CastrTroy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This school must have a pretty bad webserver if simply clicking on refresh brings the server to its knees. I mean, it's not like they were generating millions of hits.

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    1. Re:Must Have A Pretty Bad Webserver by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 4, Funny

      This school must have a pretty bad webserver if simply clicking on refresh brings the server to its knees.

      *cough* Windows 98 *cough*

    2. Re:Must Have A Pretty Bad Webserver by shish · · Score: 2, Informative
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  4. Article slashdoted... by Eyah....TIMMY · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... after all the /. readers held down F5 to see if it really worked

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  5. Low-tech DDoS? by Kelson · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sounds like a distributed denial of service attack. He just left out the automation.

    Logically, the only thing that distinguishes a DoS from the Slashdot Effect is intent. If your intent is to spread awareness of the material that appears on a server, and the server can't handle it, well, that's tough for the server, but that's how the Internet works. If your intent is to take the server down, that's illegal.

    Up until now, most deliberate attacks were automated, making it easy to separate overwhelming legit traffic from attacks -- but that's only really as accurate as trying to separate legitimate city traffic from criminals by assuming that anyone on foot is a burglar.

    Of course, when you get down to the level of intent, you get to his contention that "Help me crash my school's server" was a joke, and that he wasn't actually trying to get people to follow through. And things get murky.

    1. Re:Low-tech DDoS? by cyberbob2010 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The fact that they all were doing it doesn't land the blame soley on his shoulders either.

      If it is bad enough to be considered a felony then why aren't the rest of them being charged with at least something?
      If I get a group of people together and tell them to all drive out there and pass stopped school busses then do I go to jail for commiting a felony?? Yes, I do. The people who passed the bus? Its not like they are getting out of it for pointing and saying well he told me so!!! May sound kind of stupid but I am a product of the Ohio schools and I know the kind of BS administrators there will try and pull...

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    2. Re:Low-tech DDoS? by Skye16 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Since his intent was to crash the school server, even as a joke, then his intent was to crash the school server. It doesn't look very good for him.

      Of course, they would have been better off letting him slide than making a few hundred thousand / million geeks curious all at once. That server probably unhooked its own ethernet cable, packed up its keyboard and mouse, and walked out the front door by now. Or it melted and dripped all over the carpet.

    3. Re:Low-tech DDoS? by Idimmu+Xul · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well I clicked the link to the schools homepage, KNOWING that I would help bring it down.

      Whatcha gonna do, punk!

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    4. Re:Low-tech DDoS? by AxemRed · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I agree that what he did amounts to a DDoS attack. That's what it was, but on a small scale. But I feel like, the punishment should fit the crime.

      When someone steals $50000, they get charged with a felony and go to jail.
      When someone steals $10, the get charged with a misdemeanor and get community service.
      When someone steals $10 at high school, they get suspended.

      When someone speeds 50mph over the speed limit, they get their license suspended.
      When someone speeds 15mph over the speed limit, they get a $100 ticket.
      When someone speeds in the high school parking lot, they get detention.

      Now lets try this...
      When someone mounts a large-scale DDoS against a major portal, they get arrested and charged with a felony
      When someone mounts a tiny DDoS against their high school, they get... arrested and charged with a felony?

      //You get my point. He deserved a week suspension. Why can't schools handle things in-house anymore?

    5. Re:Low-tech DDoS? by raoul666 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Logically, the only thing that distinguishes a DoS from the Slashdot Effect is intent. If your intent is to spread awareness of the material that appears on a server, and the server can't handle it, well, that's tough for the server, but that's how the Internet works. If your intent is to take the server down, that's illegal.

      I agree, but it begs the question: what if someone submitted a story to /. with the intent to crash the server of his enemy? Is that illegal? If so, was it his wrongdoing, /.'s, ours, etc. What if the owner of said page sent an email to Taco begging his site be taken down? Is that now Taco's felony? And what if a group of people, such as on /., got together specifically to do this to all their enemies, but under the guise of it being a serious website?

      Just being devil's advocate. I think it's generally pretty clear what's malicious and what's not. And they clearly overreacted to this kid.

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    6. Re:Low-tech DDoS? by ebyrob · · Score: 2, Interesting

      but that's only really as accurate as trying to separate legitimate city traffic from criminals by assuming that anyone on foot is a burglar.

      Note: If you assumed foot-traffic was criminals you'd also instantly make things like public demonstration illegal...

      Which is interesting, because having lots of people manually refresh a page is a lot more akin to asking a whole crowd of street people to come hang out in your school parking lot and make it impossible to park versus say throwing down caltrops.

      Which one is illegal, and what constitutes a felony is something that needs some consideration. It seems quite clear that a DDoS using hijacked systems is far worse than what this kid did.

      If your intent is to take the server down, that's illegal.

      So, if I post a story to slashdot with the intent of taking out a server that makes it illegal? Quite a bold and interesting statement of law there. I'd sure like to hear your precedent.

    7. Re:Low-tech DDoS? by 91degrees · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Perhaps, but the intent was to do marginal harm. Crashing a school's server is really quite harmless. Even any unintended consequences are going to be fairly small. Some people are mildly inconvenienced in a small way. That's all. He hasn't damaged the computer. He hasn't stolen anything. He hasn't prevented them from making money. Prosecuting him for a felony seems disproportionate. Punishing him with detention should be all that's needed.

    8. Re:Low-tech DDoS? by Metrol · · Score: 3, Funny

      He deserved a week suspension.

      Yeah, a week of sitting at home hitting F5!

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  6. Seems like a waste of time and money by dada21 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This problem can be solved through software already -- the school didn't take necessary means to avoid such a simple "DoS" style attack.

    Even so, it seems crazy to me to waste taxpayer dollars chasing down this citizen and even more dollars prosecuting him. While the law is supposed to be around to protect property, I don't see how this is a felony. He didn't do the refreshing, did he? He used his right to speak freely.

    I'm sure I'll hear the standard arguments about how speech can be regulated and I repudiate all of them. Crying fire in a theatre is private property -- the Constitution protects nothing on private property and the theatre owner is responsible for setting the standards of speech. Telling someone how to make a bomb is also free expression/speech -- you're not making the bomb. In this case, if clicking excessively is a crime (I can't believe it would be), the people who did the act should be indicted.

    I'd love to see what real crimes are happening right now in Canton City -- murders, rapes, thefts. Speeding tickets and telling people to refresh a website repeatedly are nothing compared to real property crime. The last quote about trying to solve them reads more to me like they're "trying to find ways to exploit them."

    For the school -- they can now expect this to happen more often. The publicity in charging this guy is going to be mostly negative in the minds of the students. All we need now is to get the link visible on slashdot, right?

    1. Re:Seems like a waste of time and money by User+956 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This problem can be solved through software already -- the school didn't take necessary means to avoid such a simple "DoS" style attack.

      Judging by this quote, it sounds like they don't even really have a grasp on what kind of "attack" it was.

      "It's a crime and it is important we take this seriously ... especially for school officials ... it could have done a tremendous amount of damage," said Canton City Prosecutor Frank Fronchione.

      Causing a tremendous amount of damage? WTF? He's not DDoSing Air Traffic Control. What a total load. This kid should sue these jackasses for libel, false arrest, and harassment.

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      The theory of relativity doesn't work right in Arkansas.
    2. Re:Seems like a waste of time and money by cavemanf16 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's not "Canton City", it's just Canton. And, after having visited there recently, I can tell you it's a midwest town - NOT a city - where life moves just a bit slower than the rest of the country. You can tell by Mr. Fanchione's comments on the article that the police are "trying to teach this youngin' a lesson!" and think they're just so smart for arresting this kid. I agree with your sentiments about how important this really is in the face of actually dangerous stuff. There were all kinds of buildings in that town that probably need to be condemned because they're a fire and health hazard, but no, the 'authorities' are busy arresting kids smarter than they are.

    3. Re:Seems like a waste of time and money by undeadly · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Even so, it seems crazy to me to waste taxpayer dollars chasing down this citizen and even more dollars prosecuting him. While the law is supposed to be around to protect property, I don't see how this is a felony. He didn't do the refreshing, did he? He used his right to speak freely.

      What's crazy is the legal system allowing this. It favors those with deep pockets to bully and force their will upon others since just the hint of legal action is enough to deter most in USA. RIAA actions are public examples of this type of behavior, along with US style patent practices/laws.

    4. Re:Seems like a waste of time and money by JWW · · Score: 4, Funny

      Causing a tremendous amount of damage?

      I'm sure the kid didn't cause a tremendous amount of damage. Not so sure about what the slashdotting will do....

    5. Re:Seems like a waste of time and money by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Informative

      He didn't do the refreshing, did he? He used his right to speak freely.

      It is specifically illegal to incite others to commit a crime.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    6. Re:Seems like a waste of time and money by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Crying fire in a theatre is private property -- the Constitution protects nothing on private property and the theatre owner is responsible for setting the standards of speech.

      You don't make any sense.

      Under your interpretation of free speech, it would be perfectly fine to cry "fire" in a public place (say, the Capitol building) and you would bear no responsibility for the resulting chaos that ensued, even if people were trampled to death during the panic.

      That's ridiculous.

    7. Re:Seems like a waste of time and money by podperson · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Crying fire in a theatre is private property -- the Constitution protects nothing on private property and the theatre owner is responsible for setting the standards of speech.

      Um ... no.

      You think murder is legal/constitutional on private property? Or wiretapping? Or cruel and unusual punishment?

      Crying fire in a crowded theatre -- as an example of the limits of free expression -- is the same regardless of whether the theatre is privately or publicly owned.

      All of that said, getting folks to click "refresh" is about as legal as suggesting that folks grab free brochures from a stand so as to exhaust the supply of brochures, except that printing more brochures and refreshing the stand are both more expensive to do than restarting a server.

    8. Re:Seems like a waste of time and money by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 2, Informative

      Straw man? Is that you?

      Apparently it isn't, since they're both scenarios where encouraging another party to commit a felony is itself a felony.

      How are they different, from the perspective of criminal law?

    9. Re:Seems like a waste of time and money by dada21 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      So if I tell someone to shoot the principal that would be exercising my free speech?

      In my anarchocapitalist belief system, yes.

      This country was founded on the idea that you can say what you want to say as long as you don't physically harm another person or their physical property. The initial revolt was no different than "We should defend our rights, and in doing so we will kill in defense."

      I think inciting a riot or inciting others to do violence is still free speech -- the person who riots or performs violence is the person who commits a crime.

      If the day comes for revolution, I don't want to see the government using speech to jail "traitors."

    10. Re:Seems like a waste of time and money by John3 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Causing a tremendous amount of damage? WTF? He's not DDoSing Air Traffic Control.

      Yes, but what if there was a snow day announcement and nobody could access the web site to check if school was open. Oh, the inhumanity!

      --
      "We make our world significant by the courage of our questions and by the depth of our answers." Carl Sagan
    11. Re:Seems like a waste of time and money by dada21 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Under your interpretation of free speech, it would be perfectly fine to cry "fire" in a public place (say, the Capitol building) and you would bear no responsibility for the resulting chaos that ensued, even if people were trampled to death during the panic.

      Congress shall make NO LAW... who doesn't make any sense?

      If I scream fire in the Capitol building, and you trample another -- you committed the violent act. If I hear someone yell fire, I look, I smell, I consider.

      Oh, when I was younger my parents' house did burn down while I was in the house -- and I left calmly while still telling my mother-in-law that the house was on fire. My brother and his friend also ran out calmly.

      The one who does the trampling should be found guilty of murder, especially if they ran with no obvious signs of fire.

    12. Re:Seems like a waste of time and money by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Crime is often determined by intent. Refreshing a webpage is not a crime. Refreshing a webpage with the intent of taking it down is a Denial Of Service attack. Granted IANAL but intent is pretty significant (though not as significant as the quality of your lawyer. Or the size of your pocketbook.)

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    13. Re:Seems like a waste of time and money by KevinKnSC · · Score: 5, Interesting
      From Senate Bill Number 146 (enacted a few years ago):

      In Sec 2909.04, (B) No person shall knowingly use any computer, computer system, computer network, telecommunications device, or other electronic device or system or the internet so as to disrupt, interrupt, or impair the functions of any police, fire, educational, commercial, or governmental operations.

      (C) Whoever violates this section is guilty of disrupting public services, a felony of the fourth degree.

      So, there's the law. We now return you to the discussion of whether this is an overreaction or not.

    14. Re:Seems like a waste of time and money by HiThere · · Score: 2, Interesting

      No, it doesn't seem like hyperbole to me. I'd add abuse of power under cloak of authority (I'd need to look up the relevant Ohio statues, but I'm sure they exist)...only that's a felony, which means that the prosecutor needs to bring charges.

      --

      I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
    15. Re:Seems like a waste of time and money by EsbenMoseHansen · · Score: 2, Interesting

      So hiring a "professional", then asking him to "take care of" a business rival is ok? :o)

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      Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful.
    16. Re:Seems like a waste of time and money by Copid · · Score: 2, Interesting

      What about fraud? Aren't there a lot of examples of fraud that are essentially just misleading speech designed to cheat people? Are you against those laws as well?

      --
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    17. Re:Seems like a waste of time and money by qtothemax · · Score: 3, Informative

      It may not be a big east coast city, but it certainly does have its crime and bad areas in the wake if the steel mills closing. Is Gary Indiana, ~100,000 people, a midwestern town where life moves a little slower? Gary has the highest crime rate in the country. Gary is an extension of Chicago, and Canton is an extension of Cleveland/Akron. Former steel towns are not nice places.

    18. Re:Seems like a waste of time and money by dhasenan · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's a high school website. If it got twenty hits in an average day, that's more than I expect; and if any essential school functions were handled by that server, the IT people in charge should be shot.

      So, there's the law. How does it apply? The kid used speech to ask others to use a computer to disrupt non-essential functions undertaken by an educational system, but not for an educational purpose. It doesn't.

  7. Apply this to eBay... by NaruVonWilkins · · Score: 2, Funny

    and you've got a new way to fill the jails!

  8. Let the slashdotting begin by jkauzlar · · Score: 3, Informative
    1. Re:Let the slashdotting begin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah. If it doesn't work at first, just hit F5 to try again. It'll work eventually...

    2. Re:Let the slashdotting begin by John3 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Uh oh...did you just commit a felony?

      --
      "We make our world significant by the courage of our questions and by the depth of our answers." Carl Sagan
    3. Re:Let the slashdotting begin by CountZero117 · · Score: 2, Funny

      you have some major cahones man, posting it on your account and not AC ;)

    4. Re:Let the slashdotting begin by wuie · · Score: 2, Funny

      Sure! I've always wanted to win at a felony!

  9. That was a fast /.ing by dtfinch · · Score: 2, Informative

    http://lake.stark.k12.oh.us/ was offline before I could even find its url in Google.

  10. the media by User+956 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I love the complete bullshit way this article frames the situation. He didn't put a link, he "created a website, which connected to the school's system." ooo.. sinister.. yeah...

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    The theory of relativity doesn't work right in Arkansas.
    1. Re:the media by Stevyn · · Score: 2, Funny

      It should have said:

      "He hacked into a web server (logged into blogspot) and modified the internal structure of it's files system (uploaded a web page) that created a "hyperlink" to the school's entire computer infrastructure (link to http://lake.stark.k12.oh.us/hs). He then called upon his gang of evil cohourts to help him destroy their "servers" (asked people even more bored than him to visit that page and press F5 a few times until they realized it was as dumb as reading the blog). This caused a massive meltdown of "computer technology" which nearly destroyed the computer systems (they got more than 5 hits a day and wondered what was up).

      btw, the parts in parenthesis is (reality)

  11. But wait, don't order yet!! by shystershep · · Score: 3, Funny

    New, only on Slashdot, the Outrage-O-Matic!!

    Simply take the bare facts of a story, throw in some out-of-context quotes and counter-factual insinuations, and that boring story about some punk's criminal mischief is suddenly about the Man's insane overreaction to a harmless prank!

    It's fun for the whole family! Get yours today!

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    The bigotry of the nonbeliever is for me nearly as funny as the bigotry of the believer. - Albert Einstein
  12. Holy Crap by jandrese · · Score: 5, Funny

    Slashdot is in a heap of trouble.

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    I read the internet for the articles.
  13. In other news ... by bushboy · · Score: 2, Funny

    .. Canton City just got their first set of traffic lights installed.

    Frank Forchione was quoted as saying :-

    "Hot Diggidy, this new fangled technology sure is mighty fine !, but it's created a whole wave of crimes, and we'll just have to find ways to solve them."

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    A slashdotting - you get the stick first and then the carrot !
  14. Does this mean that it's also a felony by multiplexo · · Score: 4, Funny
    to press all of the buttons on an elevator at once?

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    cheap labor conservatives - they want to keep you hungry enough to be thankful for minimum wage.
    1. Re:Does this mean that it's also a felony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Just tried it.... you piece of crap, I was stuck in the elevetor for 30 mins.

    2. Re:Does this mean that it's also a felony by multiplexo · · Score: 2, Funny
      Just tried it.... you piece of crap, I was stuck in the elevetor for 30 mins.

      Good thing you posted as AC, otherwise Frank Forchione would be sending the cops after you and you'd probably wind up in one of those "pound me in the ass" penitentiaries.

      --
      cheap labor conservatives - they want to keep you hungry enough to be thankful for minimum wage.
    3. Re:Does this mean that it's also a felony by AnalystX · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Only if it's an elevator in a police station, fire station, school, commercial building, or government building. My grandfather had an elevator in his building that was used for commercial purposes downstairs and for personal living space upstairs. The building was actually zoned that way. So, I guess it would have been illegal only if someone pressed all the buttons going up.

    4. Re:Does this mean that it's also a felony by Ambush · · Score: 2, Funny
      Does this mean that it's also a felony to press all of the buttons on an elevator at once?

      Nope, but if you send all the lifts to the same floor all at once, then it's a felony! ;-)

      --
      There are 10 kinds of people; those who know ternary, those who don't, and those now hunting for a dictionary.
  15. Video of Story by wike · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here's a link to a video newstory that provides some more details: http://www.wkyc.com/video/player.aspx?aid=18650&si d=45721&bw= This story has been up on Digg.com for a few hours, the school's website has been down most of the day

  16. "clearly, we must protect the children" by Triumph+The+Insult+C · · Score: 2, Funny

    i think we should bring a class action lawsuit against all companies that make keyboards, they are manufacturing unsafe products that encourage criminal behavior in america's youth by their continued inclusion of the button 'F5'

    --
    vodka, straight up, thank you!
  17. Canton Law Dept page by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Since the school's site is already DDoS'd, here is the Canton Law Dept. Let's see how fast we can take the prosecutor down.

    1. Re:Canton Law Dept page by notsoanonymouscoward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I wonder if inciting a DDOS will eventually be a crime...

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      I ate my sig.
    2. Re:Canton Law Dept page by glassjaw+rocks · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yes! My city is getting owned.

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      -gjr
    3. Re:Canton Law Dept page by KenCrandall · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, a Manual Distributed Slashdotting Denial Of Service would be an MSDOS. :-) (Lame, but it made me giggle to think it up.)

    4. Re:Canton Law Dept page by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Joseph Martuccio, Law Director
      218 Cleveland Ave SW
      Canton, OH 44702
      Phone: 330 - 489-3251
      Fax: 330 - 489-3374
      jmcarman@ci.canton.oh.us
      Think I might send the citys law director am email telling him to get real.

    5. Re:Canton Law Dept page by x69 · · Score: 2, Informative
    6. Re:Canton Law Dept page by cammoblammo · · Score: 5, Funny

      'Manual Slashdotting Denial of Service' works better. Of course, 'Slashdotting' implies 'Distributed.'

      Come to think of it, it implies 'Manual' too.

      --

      Cogito, ergo sig.

    7. Re:Canton Law Dept page by nahdude812 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If they can demonstrate material damages, yes, for sure, even with out cyber laws. Encouraging any unusual and unnatural behavior which causes material damage is a felony.

      If they are on restricted bandwidth, and you encourage people in an unnatural action which causes them to exceed this bandwidth and so incur extra charges, you're responsible for those charges.

      Unnatural doesn't mean posting a link. Unnatural *does* mean encouraging people to repeatedly reload the link with the specific intention of taking down the server, as this kid did.

      It's not illegal for me to walk into a store. It's not illegal for me to encourage other people to walk into a store. It *is* illegal for me to encourage a thousand people to walk into a store and jump up and down until the floor collapses.

      Although this oppinion won't be popular here on the 'dot, the kid effectively incited people to vandalism of some nature, whether in his area this is a misdemeanor or a felony depends a lot on his local laws. Depending on how much damage (eg, man hours to bring the server back up plus bandwidth overage charges) he caused it's definately a felony. If he knowingly spoke to people outside his own state and encouraged them as well, then perhaps it counts as having crossed state borders, and then it's a federal crime.

      Let's not delude ourselves, according to the article his objective was vandalism; he deserves a visit from the cops for that.

    8. Re:Canton Law Dept page by Deviant+Q · · Score: 2, Informative

      Here's a useful Firefox extension for this kind of stuff:

      http://reloadevery.mozdev.org/

      --
      "May the days be aimless. Let the seasons drift. Do not advance the action according to a plan."
    9. Re:Canton Law Dept page by Magic5Ball · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Is it illegal for me to walk into a resturant that refuses to serve me with many of my friends and sit down until we are all served?

      Tresspass, if you've been told to leave and refuse to do so. Creating a public disturbance and assault are also possibilities depending on how you and your friends behave.

      --
      There are 1.1... kinds of people.
  18. Take gun, aim at feet. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is their webpage.

    It's dead, predictably. Once again some morons in authority have demonstrated their complete lack of understanding of internet culture. Anyone with an ounce of knowledge of the way people like us think would have dealt with this as quietly as possible so as not to incur the wrath of the entire world. Instead, they thought they'd be smart and "show what they do about this kind of joke", or whatever it was they said.

    They shall pay the price for their lack of vision...

  19. If killing someone's web bandwidth is a crime by jaygatsby27 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Than Slashdot should have been in jail long ago. Isn't that exactly what this website is good for?

  20. Number of hits by Silverlancer · · Score: 5, Informative

    According to the folks at Fark, who got to it before the slashdotting, it only had about 900 hits total. Come on, they crashed the server in NINE HUNDRED HITS?!

    1. Re:Number of hits by pdbogen · · Score: 2, Insightful

      According to TFA (I forgive you for not reading it.. this is slashdot, after all), they server admins noticed a slowdown and caught on.

      FWIW, for everyone lambasting assuming that "connected to" means "linked to," it's possible that the kid's web page loaded the school's in fifteen hundred IFRAMES (and if the school's website is set to no-cache, which is probably likely, this could be trouble), and also that their hit counter only registers unique IP addresses.

      /Devil's Advocate
      //Are these allowed on slashdot?

    2. Re:Number of hits by raoul666 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Jesus. I could handle 900 hits by tapping it out personally over the bloody phone line with one of those morse code thingys.

      --
      When cryptography is outlawed, bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl
    3. Re:Number of hits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      google's cache [google.com] of the home page shows 580 hits as of Jan 1st 2006.
      Less than 400 hits to kill the server?! And they arrest the student?

  21. School by taskforce · · Score: 4, Funny
    The school in question is Lake High School in Uniontown Ohio.

    http://lake.stark.k12.oh.us/

    The site is actually down, which is a shame; it would have been a nice oppurtunity to see if we could get Zonk thrown in jail for posting it on the Slashdot front page.

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  22. Wow by g0bshiTe · · Score: 2, Funny

    "18 year old man arrested for DDoSing his schools website by encouraging other students to quickly click refresh. In retaliation for his incarciration, he used his telephone call to call his freind Stevie, whom he told to post to /. and all the schools servers were /.ed."

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  23. This doesn't make any sense by Psionicist · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This doesn't make any sense, at all.

    - If a boy tells his friend to reload a webpage, he gets thrown into jail and gets felony charges.
    - A lone spammer gets $11 billion in fines.
    - If joe sixpack downloads a movie he gets huge fines.

    Yet, if a medium to large corporation sell/delete customer records, infect consumers computers with spyware or the like, they only get a slap on the wrist?

    When did corporations get more freedoms than individuals?

    1. Re:This doesn't make any sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful


      When did corporations get more freedoms than individuals?


      When you gave corporations the right to be considered a person.

    2. Re:This doesn't make any sense by jfern · · Score: 5, Informative

      The activist conservative United States Supreme Court ruling Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad of 1886 claimed that the 14th amendment somehow gave rights to corporations. The idea of "corporate personage" was born. Of course, they have a lot more rights than persons.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Clara_County_v. _Southern_Pacific_Railroad

    3. Re:This doesn't make any sense by ClamIAm · · Score: 5, Insightful
      When did corporations get more freedoms than individuals?

      This happens when a populace starts caring more about iPods and celebrities than making sure their government isn't corrupt. If you live in America, you probably see what I'm talking about. And if you live here and don't see it, you've already fallen victim to it.

    4. Re:This doesn't make any sense by HiThere · · Score: 4, Interesting

      From what I've heard it wasn't even the decision that caused the problems, but rather the law clerk's write-up of it.

      It hardly matters. What we need to do is institute corporate death penalties. If a corporation has committed a felony and cannot practically be imprisoned, then the only remaining option is to execute them. (I.e., revoke their charter and confiscate their assets. N.B.: This doesn't mean the assets of the individuals involved, merely the corporate assets. To attach the assets of individuals, you would need to prosecute them as individuals.)

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      I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
  24. DoS not Refresh by garver · · Score: 2, Insightful

    He arranged a Denial of Service attack. Think of his "fellow students" as zombies and him as a script kiddie, then pretend you're the admin or legit user of this site. Now tell me you wouldn't be a wee bit perturbed. This is akin to willfull destruction of property and saying he's only guilt of refreshing a browser is like saying a car thief is only guilt of moving your car.

    A felony is a bit harsh though. Perhaps there were significant damages involved. Or the cops are out of control.

  25. Too much information given about the kid? by GhaleonStrife · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Wow. They even give you his street address, in case you wanna walk up and punch him in the face. He's no longer safe from the school bullies! ...Provided he ever gets out of jail.

  26. Canton, OH is not known for common sense by ChipMonk · · Score: 4, Funny

    Last year, an article on the WEWS Channel 5 website had this gem of a quote:

    "School officials are not sure they [know] what has caused so many pregnancies..."

    Someone needs to get these people a clue-bat.

  27. intent matters by circletimessquare · · Score: 4, Insightful

    if i break your arm because i didn't see you standing behind me while i was moving a heavy piece of furniture, then there should be mild repercussions

    if i break your arm by taking it, looking dead in your eye, and twisting it as hard as i can, then there should be severe repercussions

    the whole issue is one of intent

    intent matters in this world, and any opinion that ignores intent, about this kid, or a whole range of modern problems in this world, is not a useful or valid opinion

    --
    intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
  28. Vulnerability exists on Linux as well by Pakaran2 · · Score: 5, Funny

    As a concerned user of fully patched Gentoo, I have tested the "F5 causes excessive reloading" vulnerability. It works on Konqueror, Mozilla and Firefox, with all patches installed, including hardened kernel. Local access to the machine is NOT required; the F5 vulnerability can be triggered when opening a web browser through, e.g., SSH forwarded X connections.

    I hope there will be a patch soon!

  29. New technology by Jotii · · Score: 5, Funny

    This new technology has created a whole wave of crimes

    Behold the refresh button, the wonder of modern technology.

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    [sig]
  30. Re:Canton City website by JabberWokky · · Score: 2, Funny
    Actually, they aren't sending stormtroopers... they decided to send in the Hero of Canton, the Man they call Jayne.

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    Evan

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    "$30 for the One True Ring. $10 each additional ring!" -- JRR "Bob" Tolkien
  31. You know, with this kind of logic... by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 3, Funny

    Cmdrtaco & Drew Curtis should be on death row!

  32. What if he did it with PAPER? by rdmiller3 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    So they toss a kid into jail because he said, "Click here to crash my school's wussy server."

    Yes, it's a low-tech sort of DDoS attack but it's not automated. He didn't actually do it himself. It involved the willful cooperation of other individuals. That makes it more like a "grassroots movement".

    What if he had said, "Send an info request letter to my school, to swamp the mail-room," hmm?? That's the hardcopy version of what he did. Would he get thrown in jail for that?

    I can understand that people wouldn't be pleased by this kid inciting a bit of social disruption, but calling it a felony and throwing him in jail is far too extreme.

  33. Felony V. Misdemeanor by Irvu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There was a time when we made an important distinction between types of crimes. Misdemeanors were "minor crimes" annoyances that can be cleared up easily enough and are a) not worth making permanent and b) best forgotten once the problems is solved. A classic example is littering, or spraypainting something on a park bench. The former is solved by making the littebug pick up their garbage (and mabye some other peoples') and the latter by having the offendor repaint the bench brown. In both cases the offence can be "fixed" and the individual can learn form a simple dressing down. In most juristictions misdemeanors are not even recorded (or didn't used to be) and never ever became part of someone's permanent criminal record (especially a minor). Moreover misdemeanors aren't liable for jail time above and beyond "time served" (in the drunk tank).

    Felonies are major or "permanent" crimes such as theft, maim, and murder. They connotate crimes that cannot be simply "cleaned up", crimes that cannot be undone in any meaningful sense and crimes that may signal permanent problems for the individual in question. Felonies attatch much stiffer penalties (for both juveniles and adults) as well as "permanence". In some states felons lose the right to vote permanently. This is politely known as "Civil Disenfranchisement". In Midevil times it was associated with the term "Civil Death". Felons are also forbidden from obtaining some jobs (in government), and have to tell all other employers of their status. They are also often forbidden from obtaining some scholarships and grants. While not all of these attatch automatically to juvenile felons many of them do. Increasing numbers of states are making no distinction between juvenile felonies and adult felonies. Unlike midsdemeanor crimes felons are truly marked for life.

    The basic upshot of this is that this kid could be harmed for life for what is, in essence, a nothing crime. He encouraged people to visit a website and thereby caused a server to run slow, not stop, not crash, not burst into flames, just run slow. This is a temporary problem, a fixable problem, and one that doesn't even require two coats of paint.

    This is a dangerous, vicious overreaction on the part of the city prosecutor, and the school officials. They are abusing their power and risk punishing a kid for life for something that should be handled by a stern talking to and no dessert.

    Some ex convicts carry around a felony conviction that prevents them from re-entering society or impairs them in some way thus encouraging a return to crime. How much worse is that when the conviction is for something less-damaging than littering.

    On another note, I wonder when the prosecutor's up for reelection?

  34. huh? by tacokill · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "inciting detrimental group behavior is far from a new thing, and should be punished."

    So I suppose you are for punishing Ghandi? Or Martin Luther King, Jr? Or any one of many other civil disobedians.

    I realize this isn't civil disobedience but my point is this: punishment is not always the best answer.

  35. America, you've got the government you voted for by cutecub · · Score: 4, Interesting

    America,

    For the last 25 years you have been voting for a Police State. And now that's exactly what you have. Congratulations, Democracy really works.
    Now shut up, bend over and take it like a man.

    -S

  36. Re:Possible Precident by bizard · · Score: 2, Informative
    I agree with the parent that instructing people to DDoS his schools computer is probably criminal. However, with the helpfully provided link to the City of Canton legal department I looked up the following definition of 'Criminal Mischief':
    (6) Without privilege to do so, and with intent to impair the functioning of any computer, computer system, computer network, computer software, or computer program, all as defined in Ohio R.C. 2909.01, knowingly do any of the following:

    A. In any manner or by any means, including, but not limited to, computer hacking, alter, damage, destroy, or modify a computer, computer system, computer network, computer software, or computer program or data contained in a computer, computer system, computer network, computer software, or computer program;

    B. Introduce a computer contaminant into a computer, computer system, computer network, computer software or computer program.

    And later it states that if the damage caused is more than $1000 that it is a felony. According to this definition though, no damage was caused...nothing was 'Altered', 'Damaged', or 'Destroyed'. How exactly did they prosecute him?

  37. Re:huh? - YOU FAIL LOGIC by Vellmont · · Score: 2, Interesting


    You fail logic. Unless of course it was your intention to imply that Ghandi's and King's actions were "detrimental". I've always thought of them as positive actions.

    And you fail philosophy and politics. Did you think the people Ghandi and King were acting against thought their actions were positive? I'm pretty sure the British Government, and many US State governments (as well as many people of the time) didn't hold your view that these were positive actions. These are also the people with the power to prosecute. Get it?

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  38. I did it! I'm glad I did it! by AmazingRuss · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'd do it again!

    (click)

    BAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!

  39. www.thecorporation.com by mindaktiviti · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The Corporation tries to answer this question. Pretty cool documentary. It's slightly left-leaning but it does show the opinions of both righties and lefties as well as ex and current CEO's from various huge multinational corporations. Very interesting.

    If you don't want to purchase or rent it, you can find a torrent on Sweden's favourite torrent site. :)

  40. Which ordinance? This one? by syukton · · Score: 2, Funny

    HTTP Status 500 -

    ----------

    type Exception report

    message

    description The server encountered an internal error () that prevented it from fulfilling this request.

    exception

    java.lang.NullPointerException
            OrdinanceGet2.doGet(OrdinanceGet2.java:43)
            javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet .java:743)
            javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet .java:856)

    note The full stack trace of the root cause is available in the Tomcat logs.

    ----------

    Apache Tomcat/5.0.19


    Yeah, I hate it when I break that ordinance...

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  41. The best quote by digitalgimpus · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The best quote on this is:


    "It's a crime and it is important we take this seriously ... especially for school officials ... it could have done a tremendous amount of damage," said Canton City Prosecutor Frank Fronchione.


    HA! An overloaded server is damage? Tremendous?

    I think this guy is trying to turn an overloaded school website (like anyone visits that anyway) into a mini-9/11.

    Tremendous Damage is essentially reserved for 9/11, Oklahoma City, type damage.

    IMHO that's borderline slander since it's extremely unlike for any true damage, forget about "Tremendous".

    Those are just words to get in the paper, at the expense of someone else's reputation.

    If I were that kids parents, I'd consider a lawsuit. Then again, nobody ever wins a lawsuit against a prosecutor.
    1. Re:The best quote by robertjw · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think this guy is trying to turn an overloaded school website (like anyone visits that anyway) into a mini-9/11.

      Better yet, his actions have actually resulted in the 'Tremendous amount of damage' he wanted to avoid.

  42. This is soooo wrong! by gone.fishing · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Caution liberal/liberitarian/green content (rant) ahead!

    For some reason I feel like I should have seen something like this coming. Frankly the criminal justice system in the United States is absolutly ill-equiped to deal with technology crime. In general, it is a system that has morphed into a plea-bargain machine that charges people with the most henious crime they can make fit and then work on reaching a "equitable sentence" through a plea-bargain. Ultimately the student will be allowed to plead guilty to a lesser charge (it this case, probably a misdemenor).

    There are a few things about this system that are GROSSLY UNJUST!

    First, there are no rules that allow both sides to play the game evenly. The prosicutor makes them up as he goes along and changes them when and if he wants.

    If you can't afford an attorney (and what eighteen year-old high school student can?) you will probably be appointed a public defender who is over-worked, under-paid and probably only a couple years out of law-school. He (or she) will consider it a victory if they can get the plea-bargain down to a misdemenor (even if no crime was committed).

    If the kid's parents can afford a (good) private-practice lawyer they will have to pay thousands if not tens of thousands for the defense. There are a couple of reasons for this, one is that the lawyer knows they can get that kind of money from those kinds of people. Another reason is that the lawyer will have to hire experts that can educate him about the technology just so he can get an idea of what the charges really are about. Finally, if it makes it to court, there will have to be money to pay the experts to come in to court and testify. Naturally, the lawyer will want all of this money up front.

    On the other side of the table, you may be facing a lawyer who wants to make a name for himself. He is aware of the failures of the system and knows how to exploit them to achieve his goals (personal or political). If the defendant gets a public defender he knows to prey on the over-worked defender and will offer a bad-deal that is just good enough to make the public defender sell it to the defendant. He also knows that the public defender has very little money for expert witnesses. If he faces a private practice lawyer, he will fight a delaying action, not offering much of a deal knowing that the cost-to-fight will soon bankrupt most people. He too can play the expert-game, only he has a county IS geek as a professional witness (so it costs him very little).

    Don't forget, the state's attorney is graded on his conviction rate (not on if justice was served). His raises and promotions depend on a good record with a high conviction rate.

    This is a system that is so broken it deserves to be tore completely down and rebuilt. You don't have to be an innocent man on death row to feel the injustice. Criminal Justice deserves two sides that are equally capable, equally funded, and fair for people of every income level. A CEO of a Fortune 500 company deserves the exact same treatment that a homeless windo deserves. Justice needs to be blind to status, race, gender, faith, orientation, or anything else (other than justice). It is the United States greatest failure as a country (although the health care system comes damned close).

    1. Re:This is soooo wrong! by RustyPelican · · Score: 2, Interesting

      From a guy that is more middle of the road, I feel quite comfortable saying that I believe you are absolutely right. Anyone who has had any real experience with the legal system ( civil or criminal ) has a gut understanding that it is not always justice that is on the table. The name of the game is to get a settlement that is good enough to clear the courts calendar and put a few brownie points in the city's column and then NEXT!

      It doesn't appear that the city officials in question have any real experience or interest in raising children to be good citizens. They have fired off a canon to kill a fly. What ever happened to progressive disipline in schools ( detention, parent teacher meeting, suspension, expulsion, or maybe just a good verbal reprimand?) Why should it be necessary to call in the criminal justice system to handle what is at best a school discipline issue ( if it is any issue at all). I hope the city fathers of Canton step back and rethink their position on this one.

      The point here is that a city official took this action because he could do it and cause this kid a lot of pain and suffering regardless of the outcome, not because it was just. If there is any justice here, the mayor, city council, citizens of canton and the judge will extract equil pain and suffering from the public officials that took this uninlightened course of action. Maybe an email from every reader of Slashdot to Mayor Creighton will help start the process in the motion ( I'd post the email address but the web site seems to be slooooow at the moment ).

  43. The felony is obviously for... by itior · · Score: 3, Funny

    Theft!

    He is making them steal MEGAHERTZ!

  44. FYI by jtorgers · · Score: 2, Informative

    The Lake Local School District is hosting a new web site this year. The new "official" district web site is http://lake.stark.k12.oh.us/.

    When appropriate, visitors will be linked back to the former district site http://www.lakelocal.org/

    Or this site http://lakelocal.oh.schoolwebpages.com/

  45. Everything is a felony now by Wansu · · Score: 3, Insightful



    In the 60s, when I was growing up, only real bad offenses were deemed felonies. Murder, Rape, Arson, Armed Robbery and other stuff like that. Then along comes a new breed of careerist prosecutors and grandstanding politicians, all one-uping each other to see who could be toughest on crime. They're ratcheted damn near everything up to felony status. Are there any misdimeanors anymore?

    In my state and others, many drug offenses carry longer mandatory minimum sentences than violent crimes. I was buying ammo recently at a gun shop. There was a sticker beside the register which warned of a 10 year sentence for buying a firearm for someone who shouldn't have one. Well, there ought to be a serious penalty for that but Armed Bank Robbery carries a 7 year penalty. Either the illegal gun purchase should carry a shorter penalty or the violent robbery should carry more. It's nuts.

    These officials who slapped the HS kid with a felony say they're doing it to send a message. This is zero tolerance run amuk. All this felonizing of picayune offenses reminds me of something Deep Purple Ian Gilliam joked about on the Made In Japan album, "Make everything louder than everthing else."

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  46. School URL might be wrong, try this-- by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative
    1. Re:School URL might be wrong, try this-- by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Ouch, wrong one. I actually go there, the one in Millbury, not the one in Canton. Kind of confusing, actually.

  47. Please show damages by jnaujok · · Score: 5, Funny

    Excuse me for pointing this out, but where exactly are the damages that relate to this felony. If this kid finds a lawyer with even an ounce of brains, the court case should last thirty seconds.

    Lawyer: Why do you have a web site?

    School: So the public can access it.

    Lawyer: So, is the same machine running it today?

    School: Yes.

    Lawyer: Does it run on the same connection?

    School: Yes.

    Lawyer: And it runs the same software, with the same data?

    School: Yes.

    Lawyer: So, in fact, nothing was erased or altered on the machine in any way? Correct?

    School: Yes.

    Lawyer: Did your service provider charge you with any extra fees?

    School: No.

    Lawyer: So, apart from a handful of extra traffic, which you admit slowed down but did not stop, damage, or destroy hardware, software, or data, and which did not cost you any extra money, you had not other damages?

    School: Uhm, well, I guess that's correct.

    Lawyer: Tell me, do you sue the driver in front of you if he slows down, or charge the slow walking grandmother holding up the line with a felony?

    School: Uhm, no.

    Lawyer: Tell me, if all the phone lines are in use at the school because people are calling them, is that a felony? Are prank calls a felony?

    School: Er, no.

    Lawyer: So, your basis for the "damage" in this case is that a student basically asked his friends to "call-up" the computer until you had a busy signal.

    School: Yes.

    Lawyer: In fact, your entire web site listed less than 900 hits before it was Slashdotted into oblivion. Tell me, have you started legal proceedings against the news agency that took the story national, or Zonk for posting it on Slashdot?

    School: Erm, no.

    Lawyer: So, you're only willing to harrass young children? To send a child to prison for what amounts to no more than a phone call where they hang up? Is that what you feel is acceptable? Is that, in fact, what you view as teaching our children?

    School: Er, do I have to answer that?

    Lawyer: Well, you are making me wait, keeping me busy, I might have to file a felony suit against you for that...

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  48. Wrong Lake HS by mazarin5 · · Score: 4, Informative

    That Lake High School is just outside of Toledo, OH. The Lake High School in question is near Canton, in the East.

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  49. Harmless prank by Thaelon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Since when do harmless pranks get you sent to jail?!

    And yes it was a harmless prank, the server didn't even come down. And even if it had it would have come back up at what, the end of the class period?

    I can remember getting in trouble for making various projectile devices ranging from spitwads to a pen crossbow (that would put a chopstick into a wall....ok that was kinda dangerous) and I never got freaking arrested.

    Schools are ridiculous these days. Let kids be kids.

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  50. High school admins by AndreyF · · Score: 2, Interesting

    From my experience, high school admins are usually the very bottom-of-the-barrel when it comes to computer ops. Mine was an english major turned high school english teacher turned highschool sysadmin. He suspended me for for three days just for running a network scan on the servers.

  51. This is pretty sad by smchris · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Michael said it was a joke," Forchione said. "We showed him how we deal with this kind of joke."

    Being 18, they showed him, indeed, considering he will have a felony in the database tracking him for the rest of his life. In lieu of a job, I guess he can get a book from Loompanics on how to cook meth and be a drug dealer.

    But I suppose they had to balance the ethical issues to reach a wise decision. I mean, it's hard to imagine the horror of school web sites crashing around the country. That would send a signal that we're weak on terra.

    The more the idea takes hold in my mind, the easier it is to see examples of what cowardly bullies Americans are. Yup, the Canton police really showed this kid what happens when you mess with the school web site. "Take that computer-using high school kid!"

    Maybe Kevin Mitnick can get him gigs speaking at the high school circuit?

  52. Taxation Without Representation. by Irvu · · Score: 2, Interesting

    That has actually come up as one of the major arguments aginst such laws. As the page I referenced noted the practice of "Civil Death" goes back (at least) to the Romans. But it isn't practiced as much in the U.S. precisely because of that argument. Other arguments marshalled against it include the notion of Cruel and Unusual punishment (for a minor felony a life punishment is too much) and the notion of Double Joepardy. If the Jail Time is the punishment then what is the virtue of extending ti forever, etc.

    Ultimately it all comes down to the stigma of the crime.

  53. Re:Canton Law Dept page PDF by el+americano · · Score: 5, Funny

    That *was* engrossing, but personally I found this 7.2MB pdf on Zone Change Procedures to be even more informative:

    http://www.cityofcanton.com/safetyservice/bldgcode s/zonechangesample.pdf

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  54. More information from the county by br00k · · Score: 3, Informative

    The Stark county Sheriff's office had some outdated information in the previous post-- Sherriff W. Bruce Umpleby died several years ago-- here's the updated info: 4500 Atlantic Blvd. NE Canton, OH 44705 Phone: 330-430-3850 Fax: 330-430-3839 Sherriff Tim Swanson I was actually *referred* to the prosecutor to find details on how to donate for the kids' legal fees, though Frank didn't seem to know. The number I was forwarded for the county prosecutor (Frank Forchione) was 330-305-0084 if you wish to contact him for details on the case, and or find out what the heck he's thinking. As a director that deals with *real* security issues regularly, setting this kind of legal precedent is quite dangerous, and would be terrible for the internet community. If there's any EFF types reading this, please post information on how to open a donation fund for the defendant's legal costs, or how to contribute to an existing one.

  55. Personal Contact Info/Court Info/The Law by theGoof · · Score: 2, Informative

    Canton Muncipal Court -- Criminal Division

    2006 CRA 00060 MICHAEL WAYNE STONE
    Birth Date: 11-16-1987
    13634 MOGADORE AVE NW UNIONTOWN OH 44685
    Judge:
    2909.04 F4-DISRUPTING PUBLIC SERVICES


    Docket Entry
    01-06-2006 COPIES OF COMPLAINT SERVED ON DEFENDANT AND DEFENDANT APPEARRED AND ADVISED OF CHARGES PRELIMINARY HEARING SET FOR 01-12-2006 @ 3:15 PM

    01-06-2006 ON THIS DAY THE DEFENDANT APPEARED WITH 20850-JOHN GIUA ATTORNEY OF RECORD

    01-05-2006 BOND POSTED $2,500.00 UNSECURED WITH SUPERVISION OF PTS DUE TO EMERGENCY RELEASE ON 01-04-2006

    01-05-2006 ARRAIGNMENT SET FOR 01-06-2006 @ 9:00 AM

    01-05-2006 DEFENDANT ARRESTED ON WARRANT 01-04-2006. TRANSFERRED TO STARK COUNTY JAIL IN LIEU BOND. FORM 8 FILED

    01-04-2006 PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND. REFER TO BOND SCHEDULE FOR BOND INFORMATION BY JUDGE RICHARD J. KUBILUS

    01-04-2006 DEFENDANT'S PHYSICAL DESCRIPTION FORM FILED AND ISSUED

    01-04-2006 WARRANT ISSUED ON 01/04/2006; (UNTWN)

    01-04-2006 2909.04 (F4) - DISRUPTING PUBLIC SERVICES COMPLAINT FILED

    Source: http://www.starkcountycjis.org/cjis2/docket/main.h tml

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    2909.04. Disrupting public services.

    (A) No person, purposely by any means or knowingly by damaging or tampering with any property, shall do any of the following:

    (1) Interrupt or impair television, radio, telephone, telegraph, or other mass communications service; police, fire, or other public service communications; radar, loran, radio, or other electronic aids to air or marine navigation or communications; or amateur or citizens band radio communications being used for public service or emergency communications;

    (2) Interrupt or impair public transportation, including without limitation school bus transportation, or water supply, gas, power, or other utility service to the public;

    (3) Substantially impair the ability of law enforcement officers, firefighters, rescue personnel, emergency medical services personnel, or emergency facility personnel to respond to an emergency or to protect and preserve any person or property from serious physical harm.

    (B) No person shall knowingly use any computer, computer system, computer network, telecommunications device, or other electronic device or system or the internet so as to disrupt, interrupt, or impair the functions of any police, fire, educational, commercial, or governmental operations.

    (C) Whoever violates this section is guilty of disrupting public services, a felony of the fourth degree.

    (D) As used in this section:

    (1) "Emergency medical services personnel" has the same meaning as in section 2133.21 of the Revised Code.

    (2) "Emergency facility personnel" means any of the following:

    (a) Any of the following individuals who perform services in the ordinary course of their professions in an emergency facility:

    (i) Physicians authorized under Chapter 4731. of the Revised Code to practice medicine and surgery or osteopathic medicine and surgery;

    (ii) Registered nurses and licensed practical nurses licensed under Chapter 4723. of the Revised Code;

    (iii) Physician assistants authorized to practice under Chapter 4730. of the Revised Code;

    (iv) Health care workers;

    (v) Clerical staffs.

    (b) Any individual who is a security officer performing security services in an emergency facility;

    (c) Any individual who is present in an emergency facility, who was summoned to the facility by an individual identified in division (D)(2)(a) or (b) of this section.

    (3) "Emergency facility" means a hospital emergency department or any other facility that provides emergency medical services.

    (4) "Hospital" has the same meaning as in section 3727.01 of the Revised Code.

    (5) "Health care worker" means an i

  56. Microsoft advocates this behavior! by cbreaker · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Call the FBI.
    From Internet Explorer:

    The page cannot be displayed
    The page you are looking for is currently unavailable. The Web site might be experiencing technical difficulties, or you may need to adjust your browser settings.

    ------

    Please try the following:

    Click the Refresh button, or try again later.

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  57. not only did it kill the HS' site... by potus98 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Not only has this killed the High School's website, but it seems other schools (and stuff) were hosted on at the same place:

    Lake High School http://lake.stark.k12.oh.us/hs/
    Lake Middle School http://lake.stark.k12.oh.us/ms/
    Lake Elementary http://lake.stark.k12.oh.us/le/
    Hartville Elementary http://lake.stark.k12.oh.us/he/
    Uniontown Elementary http://lake.stark.k12.oh.us/ue/
    Lake County District http://lake.stark.k12.oh.us/
    Staff Login http://lake.stark.k12.oh.us/login.php
    Athletics http://lake.stark.k12.oh.us/athletics
    News http://lake.stark.k12.oh.us/news/news.php
    Help Desk Login http://staff.lake.stark.k12.oh.us/helpdesk/login.p hp
    Mr. Wood's Homepage http://lake.stark.k12.oh.us/~wooddave/compsciiii-o bjectives.php
    AP Calculus http://lake.stark.k12.oh.us/~erbdave/Calculus/inde x.php
    Mr. Erb's Homepage http://lake.stark.k12.oh.us/~erbdave/main.php
    Jester Labs http://lake.stark.k12.oh.us/~wooddave/jesterlabs/i ndex.html

    BTW: According to Google's cached version of their site from Jan 1, 2006 03:32:05 GMT:

    "This page has been viewed 580 times! Powered by CMS Made Simple 0.10.4"

    Heh heh heh... IF it ever recovers from the /.ing it'll read "This page has been viewed 7.2*10^36. Please see Mr. Erb for conversion details."

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  58. According to the wording of the law, yes. by gizmonic · · Score: 2, Insightful

    People modded you as funny, but if you read the actual law, then yes, pushing all the buttons in an elevator could, in fact, be a felony:

    SB 146, Sec 2909.04:
    (B) No person shall knowingly use any ... electronic device or system ... so as to disrupt, interrupt, or impair the functions of any ... commercial ... operations.
    (C) Whoever violates this section is guilty of disrupting public services, a felony of the fourth degree.
    (Law snippet borrowed from previous poster...)

    That's not really funny at all.

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  59. I have just one thing to say to that! by LnxAddct · · Score: 4, Informative

    while true; do wget http://lake.stark.k12.oh.us/hs/ &> /dev/null; done;
    Regards,
    Steve

  60. Three Strikes Law by Jafafa+Hots · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And since it's a felony, if he does this twice more they'll sentence him to life in prison.

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  61. I wonder what would have happened... by buddyglass · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...if he'd told all his friends to mail a bunch of letters right around Dec. 25 in order to bog down the postal service! Denial of Service!

  62. Non violent action? by Requiem18th · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Ok, so If I invite 100,000 of my friends to sit in front of a restaurant, am I a felon? No, its called non violent protesting. Of course, the restaurant could argue that not being able to attend customers is a "damange", but if my friends don't start braking windows you can't jail me for instilling violent actions. Now there is another half of this story we aren't being told, and that is, why are students so willing to DDOS the school's site? This is the behavior of an unhappy alumnae. Now the funny thing is that physicaly invading the school's servers room is punished less harshly than doing so virtually. Welcome to the land of free shutting down public speech. The next step is getting the students to protest in front of the jail. Oops now I am a felon too...

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  63. THATS funny.... by dartarrow · · Score: 2, Funny

    from google cache of the site

    : Lake High School
    1025 Lake Center Street
    Uniontown, Ohio 44685-9462
    Office (330) 877-4282
    Attendance (330) 877-4762
    Fax (330) 877-0853

    Office hours when school is in session: 7:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m. All visitors must enter Door #1 and sign in at the main office.

    Lake High School is located in Stark County, Ohio. A total of 1220 students in grades nine through twelve make up the student body.

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  64. creating a nuisance by Barbarian · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In meat-space, there are laws that let people be charged with misdemeanors like "Creating a nuisance." You might get charged with this if you got 20 people to go into a department store and hold relay races in the isles. Isn't this guy's behavior more in line with this, than "computer crime?"

  65. URL correct; 580 visits till 1st of January! by gentoo1337 · · Score: 2, Informative

    No! The URL is correct indeed. Watch the clip and check out the Google cache.

    As of January 1st this year, it proudly reads:
    "This page has been viewed 580 times!" :-D