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MySpace Users Revolt Against Murdoch

arclightfire writes "Looks like Murdoch's News International have stired up a revolt within users of the MySpace file-sharing site they purchased for $629m (£355m) last July, reports the Independent; "Angry members of MySpace, the personal file-sharing website for young adults, are accusing Rupert Murdoch's News Corporation of censoring their postings and blocking their access to rival sites. The 38 million subscribers to MySpace...discovered that when they wrote to each other about rival video-swapping site YouTube, the words were automatically deleted, and attempts to download video images from YouTube led to blank screens. The intervention by News Corp in the traditionally open-access world of the web - in particular the alteration of personal user profiles - provoked a storm of angry posts...The protests gathered pace, and when 600 MySpace customers complained and a campaign began to boycott the site and relocate to rival sites such as Friendster, Linkedin, revver.com and Facebook.com, News Corp relented and restored the links.""

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  1. Er... by tolan-b · · Score: 5, Informative

    MySpace isn't a file-sharing website is it?

    1. Re:Er... by Stephen+Williams · · Score: 5, Funny

      Sure it is. It's a site for angsty teenagers to share pictures of themselves looking miserable.

      -Stephen

    2. Re:Er... by batteryman · · Score: 2, Informative

      It was used at one time for filesharing. It was more like Live365, but you could capture the streams to a file. You could also create your own streams from other peoples collections of music.

    3. Re:Er... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's not a file-sharing site, per se. However, it does have a large community of bands and musicians, and allows them to stream their music via builtin players and whatnot. I can (almost) see how a clueless journalist could confuse that with "file-sharing".

    4. Re:Er... by DrStrange66 · · Score: 2, Funny
      MySpace isn't a file-sharing website is it?
      I thought myspace was a dating site. THAT must be the reason I haven't gotten a date from there yet!
    5. Re:Er... by ehrichweiss · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Nope, it's not a file sharing site. Whoever had the reasoning that since it had links it could be used for file sharing needs to realize that only put every website on the planet on the **AA's hitlist with such a sweeping generalization. Having A building block of file sharing doesn't remotely equate to file sharing. BTW, they do a good job of keeping the 12 year olds off of MySpace, wish they could do that here nearly as well.

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    6. Re:Er... by British · · Score: 3, Funny

      (has anyone noticed Slashdot going suckingly slow to reply to a thread? I should not have to hit Reload)

      Yep, and let's not a forget it's a site where boys cant keep their shirts on and the girls can't keep their pants on, at least to the pictures. Myspace is not even close to being a file sharing site. It's a site to prove to the world you have no idea how to make a web page. Hey, let's embed a jay-z video and an eminem video on the same page!

      Utterly stupid. You could use certain people's profiles as stress tests for firefox.

    7. Re:Er... by blincoln · · Score: 2, Insightful

      First off, there are more women on the system than men.

      I've never been to MySpace, but I know a LOT of girls with Livejournals, versus a handful of guys. I think it's the social aspect.

      And yes, if you look at teenagers' livejournals as an aggregate, most of them are pretty similar, because the amount of unique experiences in a teenager's life is generally far outweighed by the normal ones.

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  2. It IS My Space by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    It IS My Space.

    All Mine.

    Rupert

    1. Re:It IS My Space by Hogwash+McFly · · Score: 3, Funny

      MySpaceBarIsBroken?

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  3. Net free? by baldass_newbie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Who ever suggested the net was free of censorship?
    Seriously.

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    1. Re:Net free? by kentrel · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I wouldn't say the internet was free of censorship, because nothing is, nothing can be. There is a lot of freedom here, but when people sign up to a company's website, especially if its free, they can never really expect much. They are shitty tactics though, and people should respond by taking their business (free or paying) elsewhere.

    2. Re:Net free? by vertinox · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Who ever suggested the net was free of censorship?

      No one said that... The saying goes, "The Internet interprets censorship as damage and routes around it."

      Clearly this is one of those times.

      Of course, had there never been censorship on the net then there wouldn't be any of this routing.

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  4. just a minute by 42Penguins · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why, again, do we care about the cesspool that is MySpace?

    Wouldn't the world actually be a BETTER place if all the users revolted, and the site shut down altogether?

    1. Re:just a minute by blowdart · · Score: 5, Funny
      Wouldn't the world actually be a BETTER place if all the users revolted, and the site shut down altogether?

      What, and risk having their target audience spread out over the net? At least myspace is a single area that contains their poetry about failed fumblings in the back site of mom's car, their discussions of exactly which black t-shirt are they supposed to wear with what foundation and their row upon row of identical self portraits each proclaiming they look goth because it's unique and original.

      No, we should hail Murdoch as a brave netizen for keeping them all in one (mosh) pool.

    2. Re:just a minute by ScaryFroMan · · Score: 5, Funny
      Wouldn't the world actually be a BETTER place if all the users revolted, and the site shut down altogether?

      I think the users are revolting already...

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    3. Re:just a minute by kalbzayn · · Score: 5, Funny

      I use myspace to make sure my monitor can really print all the millions of colors it claims it can. All you have to do is view any page on myspace and it is guaranteed to use each and ever color possible

    4. Re:just a minute by daviddennis · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think almost all the pretty, young girls on the Internet are on it. There would be no more pretty girls if you vaporized all myspace users :-(.

      True, it shows a remarkable lack of taste in most pretty young girls' minds, but there are always the rare exceptions.

      I admire myspace because it gives people what they really want, not what marketers say they want and not what software developers say they want. They want to be able to use any color in the world and they can. They want to put horrible music up on their profiles and so they can.

      "People Power" made myspace and people power can destroy it. It looks like Murdoch's people are sending it straight down the tubes.

      I hope Tom cashed the check.

      D

    5. Re:just a minute by The+Good+Reverend · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why is this insightful?

      Myspace is a social networking site, and is introducing millions of kids to the ability to create their own web sites, code/design, and get online in general. There's a ton of crap there, just like there's a ton of crap on fark, and slashdot, and the internet as a whole. But the elitist "wow, we hate it because it seems shallow to us" attitude is unproductive and mean spirited.

  5. Communities by suso · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What the Web won't be like in 10 years? (1997)

    So much for corporations being less in control at the hands of the communities.

    1. Re:Communities by lbrandy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      So much for corporations being less in control at the hands of the communities.

      Maybe I'm crazy but... isn't that exactly what happened? A company had to give up control at the hands of the community?

  6. File Sharing? by AsnFkr · · Score: 5, Funny

    MySpace, the personal file-sharing

    Myspace is not a file-sharing site. Its one of those "Social-hub" places fat girls post blurry pictures of themselves on.

    1. Re:File Sharing? by systmoadownfreak · · Score: 2, Insightful

      True that is one of the purposes...ok it's basically the major use of the site, but another feature that it holds is to put up music files of the bands that are listed there. Basically most of the time bands will put a couple of free songs up there to generate interest in them and hopefully actually sell some of their music.

      As stupid as I think the censorship of the internet is, it IS the site of the corporation. They can limit what you do on the site.

      Oh well, more reason for me to steer clear of the stupid community.

    2. Re:File Sharing? by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 2, Insightful

      As stupid as I think the censorship of the internet is, it IS the site of the corporation. They can limit what you do on the site.

      What you say it true and I have been modded down to -1 for pointing this out in the past. At the same time trying not to be evil is also a great way of winning people over. When a company takes an anti-social tactic on a social site, then people will get unnerved and feel upset about it. Censorship is a great way of scaring people off, especially if you did not indicate clearly that it was one of the rules of the site.

      The other problem is we see companys say one thing and then saying the opposite in the small print. I get fed up with small print licenses that I need a lawyer to decipher. How about providing some of that info in a FAQ?

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    3. Re:File Sharing? by Catbeller · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Ah, bitter old people.

      Who's the bigger losers: the people who post on MySpace, or the people who take the time to troll around MySpace for pictures of people to ridicule?

  7. Rupert is just jealous. by ryg0r · · Score: 4, Funny
    No one has added him as to their friends list. Of course he's going to get a bit cranky.

    However samy is my hero.

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  8. Just a quick note by Kanpai · · Score: 2, Informative

    Rupert Murdoch's company is actually called News Corperation, not News International.

    1. Re:Just a quick note by Flaming+Babies · · Score: 2, Informative

      News International is the main UK subsidiary of News Corporation.

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  9. Way to go, MySpace users! by standbypowerguy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is a perfect example of how to fight commercial censorship... vote with your wallet.

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    1. Re:Way to go, MySpace users! by nwbvt · · Score: 5, Insightful

      MySpace users have wallets? I thought most of them were 12 year old kids...

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    2. Re:Way to go, MySpace users! by surefooted1 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      When was the last time an internet boycott worked?

    3. Re:Way to go, MySpace users! by InfiniteWisdom · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The protests gathered pace, and when 600 MySpace customers complained and a campaign began to boycott the site and relocate to rival sites such as Friendster, Linkedin, revver.com and Facebook.com, News Corp relented and restored the links.

      They worked this time, apparently

  10. "Freedom of Speech" by RobotRunAmok · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...belongs to those who own the presses, a fact-of-life with which I suspect Mr. Murdoch is well-acquainted.

    "My Space." That's funny.

  11. What's with all the Independent lifted stories? by morgdx · · Score: 2, Funny

    Nobody in the UK reads the Independent, but now everyone on /. does?

    Weird.

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    1. Re:What's with all the Independent lifted stories? by bri2000 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I do. Gave up on the Guardian following the last election when Polly Toynbee's pro-Blair puff pieces actually started to get offensive (her assertion that anybody who takes the War and the handling of the occupation into account when making their voting decision is 'decadent' and her sudden conversion to PR (which, I suspect, she's never mentioned again) did it for me.)

  12. News International? by nwbvt · · Score: 3, Informative

    The British newspaper? How does it control MySpace? Surely you mean News Corp, the name of the parent company.

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    1. Re:News International? by Shimbo · · Score: 2, Informative

      The British newspaper? How does it control MySpace? Surely you mean News Corp, the name of the parent company.

      News International is the name of the main UK subsidiary of News Corp. Easy mistake for a Brit to make - I'd never heard of News Corp either.

    2. Re:News International? by andytuna · · Score: 2, Informative

      And News International owns The Times and The Sun amongst other titles, News international isn't a paper itself.

  13. The power of traffic. by siefkencp · · Score: 2, Interesting

    A prime example of the power of traffic this site was created out of string and bubble gum and its worth 600 Million dollars.... Where's all this consumer data getting sold to?

    You think News Corp. is making that $$ back on adds alone?

    Any one care to let me in on the secret??
    Who buys the data? What name is it resold under?

  14. Hm... by cmarguel · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is more common than one might think. I'm not surprised that nobody noticed the same thing going on with Yahoo Messenger. It took me months for my friends and I to notice that Imageshack and Friendster links, among others, were being censored whenever we would try to send links to each other. It makes me wonder who else has been doing it behind our backs. Hopefully, the companies that have gone unnoticed will stop doing this, now that they can see what could happen.

  15. The dot com bubble taught us one thing ... by techstar25 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If the dot com bubble taught us anything, it's that "If it's free on the internet, it's unreliable and fully controlled by somebody who will run it into the ground". I'm costantly telling that to bands who rely on Myspace as their primary website. Very soon, Fox might, and could pull an MP3.com and just pull the plug, leaving thousands (millions?) of bands without a web presence. There also plenty of people who only communicate through myspace, and so when myspace goes, all communication ends, and they lose those friends. These kids who think they have the right to post whatever they want are sadly misinformed, but they are 12 years old (claiming to be 18 of course), so we can't blaim them for their naivety.

    1. Re:The dot com bubble taught us one thing ... by typical · · Score: 2, Informative

      Free is fine, as long as you never lock yourself in to the service.

      Google and Yahoo's search are fine, because other than a bit of familiarity with their interfaces, they have no lock-in on me. They can't hurt me much other than sticking ads around (and eventually, if the search pages gets unusable, I have to switch.) But every time you use a "free" service provided by a company, you gotta ask yourself ("how exactly could this company hurt me?") Ultimately, they're a business out to make money, and unless you've got a really good answer in which your interests and their own are permanently conjoined, you might want to think again.

      Free email providers (c'mon, neither email nor domains are that expensive -- I use mailsnare for $20 a *year*, and domains are something like $10 a year and you can do other stuff with 'em) are going to want to make money off of the lock-in that they've established, and that means doing something that you don't like sooner or later. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but someday. Maybe after they get bought or their management changes or they sell their email wing to someone else, or they hit hard times...who knows.

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  16. Shut it down by sulphurlad · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My Youngest son was buying his drugs ( mostly pot, at least I fucking hope ) from this site. And after hacking into his profile, tracking his so-called friends and online buddies, my wife and I deetermined that the site was mostly being used by him for getting with his drug buddies. Hell there was a kid on his buddy list and had a picture of like a poiund of pot on his bed with him in it, and it didn't look like Photoshop either. Were it not for my Oldest who uses it for what it was supposed to be, chatting and sharing vid's of his motorcyle movies and stunts, than I would just blacklist the damn thing.

    As it is now, my wife spends alot of time educating parents and showing them what their kids are really up too.
    Some are shocked, some don't seem to care.

    But I guess the REAL PROBLEM is not the website, it's the lack of parents being involved in their kids lives.

    DAMN, I hate it when I'm my own Devil's Advocate........

    1. Re:Shut it down by MrPerfekt · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Some people choose to buy drugs, some people choose to meet people, some people choose to listen to music, some people choose to....

      A social network imitating society.. what are the odds?

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    2. Re:Shut it down by xoip · · Score: 3, Insightful

      While you're shutting down MySpace make sure you get every other means of communications those Pot Smokers use too...Cell Phones, msn...aol...yahoo...gaim...jabber...personal contact at school...ban them from the shopping mall...play ground...hell you could escort the kid everywhere he goes but I doubt this war on drugs mentality would make anyones life better.

    3. Re:Shut it down by Woy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Your Youngest son's biggest problem is a dad who considers "motorcycle stunts" safer than smoking pot.

      Oh, and hacking your son's private stuff is also a great lesson on trust. My father pulled that stunt too and it cost him bitter tears of regret a few years after the fact. I hope your son educates himself on the practical uses of cryptography and cuts you off from his digital life as he probably already did from his "real" life.

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    4. Re:Shut it down by cr0sh · · Score: 3, Interesting
      I would make sure your kid knows that smoking pot sometimes is OK, but becoming a drug addict is not.

      AC, your advice would be fine in a country where smoking pot was legal, but in most countries, it isn't.

      In the United States, for instance, in most places, if the police get a search warrant (for whatever reason), toss your house (and they really do toss it - cabinet doors ripped off hinges and everything), and find evidence of drugs and/or drug usage (regardless of who has it - child or adult) - they can "legally" confiscate your property (house and everything in it, if they want), you go to jail (along with anyone else in the house), and your life is pretty much over and done. If you are lucky, you get out, and get some of your stuff back - maybe even your house (maybe). Most of the time, if you aren't the owner/user of the drugs, and there wasn't enough to slap on an "intent to sell" charge, you will just be lucky not to be in jail.

      This isn't paranoia talking - this is the truth. Many, many people in this country have lost nearly everything simply because a son/daughter/renter/housemate was using/selling drugs within the house they were occuppying. It isn't even SOP, even within a police department/jurisdiction - sometimes they grab everything, sometimes they just remove the offender and evidence. Sometimes, something in the middle occurs. It seems completely random, and in a way, I bet this is the way it is meant to be - to control the populace by fear, uncertainty, and doubt - in our illustrious and oh-so-effective "War on (some) Drugs".

      With that said, even if it was legal to use pot, it would probably be restricted to adults only. As a parent he would probably be best to teach his kid proper drug use, and explain why it is only for adults (effects on growing brains, responsible usage, etc). He shouldn't get too whigged out if he catches his kid doing it, but there should be punishment.

      However, in the majority of the 1st world (and most of the rest, as well), illegal drug usage is, well, illegal. Plus, as I have noted above, in the United States, in some random cases, you might be better off (legally and prison sentence length) raping or killing someone than to be caught with drugs. Yes, sadly, our great American society is that fucked up...

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    5. Re:Shut it down by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 2, Informative
      First, I have to say there are serious trust issues if you have to hack your son's account. If he EVER finds out (and I hope he does) that you did so, not only will he lose all trust in you, but he will just be more careful about people finding out the next time he buys drugs.

      Which leads me to my next point. You demonize MySpace, which is simply a communication tool. If he doesn't get his hookup on MySpace, he'll get it through AIM, Friendster, cellphone, etc. So you are correct, it is not the website that it is the problem.

      Now my final point is one you're going to hate...but you need to realize that different people have different views on pot, and while he is just a kid and should probably not be using it, what he should be doing is forming his own opinion on things.

      Rather than just ineffectively try to stop him from doing the drugs (which, short of tossing him into solitary you don't be able to do), try educating him. And not just that "this is why pot is bad for you" garbage. Why not expose him to both sides of the coin, the studies that point in both directions (it is hardly unanimous that pot is bad) and let him eventually make his own decision on whether it is bad for you or not. Now, thats not to say he's allowed to use it or not. You are his parents, and he lives by your rules. But the kid should certainly be allowed to form his own opinion even if it differs from yours.

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  17. Stop being so cheap by Mr.Dippy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I haven't found one decent looking webpage on MySpace. It seems to be home for teenagers and college students who are too cheap to pay 3 to 10 dollars a month for a hosting company and who still think the blink tag is way cool. If you want freedom of speech and all that other non-sense on the web go get yourself a domain name, pay the few bucks a month for hosting, and a 20 dollar book on HTML. You get what you pay for.

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    1. Re:Stop being so cheap by MrCopilot · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Hey man, are you saying there is no place on the web for broke teens with no skill? My kids aren't paying for a domain out of thier allowance just to say hey. Let MySpace and Friendster and $$$$$$ster take care of a place for these kids to "shout out" to each other. It is free to them and it allows communication in a much more time independent manner than IM. Plus it is another place to store and share their pictures. Why did they get those digital cameras for Christmas?

      My hat's off to the MySpace users for thier democratic approach. Sometimes it works, Note to selves though, MURDOCH=FOX=FNC=Very Large Corp=Very Right Republican. Not always the best friend to the youth and their movements.

      Easy to keep an eye on things when all on your servers it is.

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    2. Re:Stop being so cheap by thrills33ker · · Score: 4, Insightful

      As a 29-year-old MySpace user and owner of my own domain (in fact I have my own vmware server), may I be the first to invite you to shut the hell up?

      You want to set up your own site on your own domain/hosting, go right ahead. Good luck getting any visitors. You want to make contact with new people, communicate with them, set up a virtual social network of people who you can later meet up with in real life, well you need something like MySpace. It's the users, stupid. Oh, and you get to discover cool new bands as well.

      And another thing - is the irony of a lot of Slashdot users making fun of a lot of "12-year-old goth" MySpace users lost on everyone but me? I frequent both sites, and let me tell you, MySpace has a LOT more "normal" people on it than Slashdot.

      So in summary, shut up.

  18. Interesting by artitumis · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I find it wildly amusing that MySpace will lock down hotlinking images and videos to rival's sites, but they have failed to address their users who hotlinked away 1.5 gigs of my personal bandwidth over the course of a week in December.

    Before I got slammed for not taking steps myself to prevent hotlinking, I did use the tools provided by my host via cPanel to disable hotlinking. The only problem is it did not work. I had to contact Tech Support and have them apply the correct code to the .htaccess. After comparing the changes the provided utility made and what Tech Support added, it was very different.

  19. Re:Way to go, MySpace users! -- All in Vain by Compulsion · · Score: 2, Insightful

    McDonald's changed their menu to make money, not because of pressure campaigns. They realized that people were trying to eat healthier, so they give you a nice, healthy bed of lettuce and greens.

    Then they pile on some fried chicken and 400calorie dressing. And charge you more by unit weight for it than just about anything else on the menu.

    --Compulsion

  20. Way to go by l33tlamer · · Score: 3, Funny

    Anime nerd, Manga geeks, Hentai freaks, Loli Maniacs, Warez Distributors and Attention-grabbing Cam whores... I mean MySpace users rejoice :)

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  21. My God, that's terrible by Deep+Fried+Geekboy · · Score: 5, Funny

    If only there were OTHER ways of posting pictures of yourself on the internet with the spots photoshopped out in the hope that some girl in Kansas will think you're hot and add her to her friends list while discussing with your bedroom-bound peer group the latest netvid of some jerk wiping out on his BMX and straddling his nuts on the crossbar while simultaneously downloading pirated copies of godawful corporate-fabricated whine rock.

    Oh, the humanity! Won't somebody think of the children?

    Oh, hang on...

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  22. Just be careful by mindaktiviti · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Trust issues aside, maybe it's time to teach your son about encryption and the stupidity of using a public forum for buying illegal drugs.

    I'm being serious here.

    Regardless of your disapproval for such a thing, regardless of whether or not he will stop because of your wishes, he has to learn to be a little more discreet, a criminal record is something you wouldn't want your son to experience as it can hamper him in his future job opportunities and across the border travel.

    If you can hack into his account and see exactly what goes on with his other buddies, don't think that it's difficult for that same kid to get arrested for having a picture of a pound of weed, have his computer confiscated, and then have the police go through his conversations with his other friends who'll he will easily rat out for a slap on the wrist.

    1. Re:Just be careful by AlienGoods · · Score: 2, Funny

      Border travel? Why would you want to leave the US? ....What? You say Cheney is running....Oh CANADA! Mod me offtopic. The midget with seltzer said its ok.

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  23. Why did they go back after shitty treatment? by mshiltonj · · Score: 3, Interesting

    After the company has shown their disrepect for users, why did the users go back at all?

    I wish people would hold companies' feet to fire more often. If the only "punishment" a company suffers after getting caught pulling shitty behavior is a few days of bad PR and having to revert the shittiness, then what's the incentive to not be shitty?

    How many shitty things will they try next? How many shitty things have they done that don't rile the attention of users?

    You know their shitty. I know their shitty. *They* know thier shitty, and don't care, as long as users keep coming back after a perfunctory, insincere sincere apology -- Until the next time they get caught doing something shitty.

    Why do users let the cycle continue?

    This is not just Newscorp I'm talking about. Consider Microsoft (Verizon phones), Sony (DRM Rootkit), etc. Yet people are lining up for the XBox and can't wait for the PS3.

    I'm not much of a gamer, but I've got a PS2. The next gaming system I buy will be a Revolution. Why? Because I haven't heard of Nintendo being shitty to users. (I'm likely wrong, but then I'll have to find which one has the least amount of shittiness. But considering Sony and MS, Nintendo will have to be *really* shitty for me to not go with them.)

    Same with RIAA. Why do people buy their stuff? I'll admit I'm a bit of a hypocrit here, because I broke down and bought my wife an RIAA-disc for christmas. (I got her severals CDs, only one of which has RIAA pawmarks on it.)

    I'd like to own American Idiot, because its good music, but can't bring myself to giving any RIAA organization my money. (I made an exception for my wife's happiness.)

    The only RIAA music I buy now is *used* CDs. With only three or four exceptions in the probably the past five years, I haven't been the original buyer of any RIAA-tainted CDs.

    RIAA is shitty. Therefore, I don't give RIAA money. (Well, mostly. I try very hard.)

    Microsoft is shitty. Therefore, I don't give Microsoft money. (Yay, Ubuntu! Yay, FSF!)

    Disney is shitty. (Senator Disney? Copyright extensions?) Unfortunately, Disney has grudgingly gotten a few of my dollars because of the Disney Princess merchandise and videos -- the crack cocaine of 5-year-old daughters. What's a good alternative to this? Barbie. Is Mattel shitty? I don't know. Anything else?

    The thing is, it takes a little work to be a fully informed consumer. Many corporations count on our ignorance. However, the internet improved user-to-user communication so much that it's hard for companies to hide their shittiness for long.

    Now, if I could only stop my money from supporting the Bush administration without going to jail....

  24. Re:Way to go, MySpace users! -- All in Vain by Pxtl · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You can order the chicken grilled instead of fried.

  25. Nothing's Free... by JTorres176 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I hate to point this out... actually, I don't really mind pointing it out, but Myspace is nothing but a free "make your own crappy website where your friends make their crappy website" hosting places. All they do is make a haven for teenagers and child molesters to make as many "friends" as possible on their web pages for no charge. By providing an over-simplified interface to make as many nasty websites as possible so the friends of their users will look and generate more advertising money.

    Out of the free use, I'd say these people can pretty much enforce whatever they want on their space. If they don't want any racist sites, they can filter out as many sites by Aryans and Black Panthers as they want to maintain this. Extend this as far as they can into things like revenue generators. They get a check from Coke, so the word Pepsi isn't allowed in virtual ads on the individual pages. They get paid by file sharing company A, they're not going to allow file sharing company B into their pages.

    Nothing's free, these people offer a server and maintain complete control over content.

    Now if only I could get my daughter off the damn thing, I'd be happy.

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    Evil Walrus >83=
  26. Sigh by aliensporebomb · · Score: 2

    But where else am I going to
    foist the fact that I spent
    most of my vital early years practicing scales and
    writing music with no
    commercial potential to
    the point of losing all
    my social skills instead
    of hanging out with my peers?

    (see: http://www.myspace.com/aliensporebomb for corroboration).

    We now return you to your regularly scheduled slashdot
    experience and apologize for
    any inconvenience.

  27. Coppers! by Saeed+al-Sahaf · · Score: 2, Funny
    I was lurking around on there for a little while...

    Better watch it, that sort of thing gets "out of hand" (in more ways than one!), next thing you know, the cops want to talk to you.

    --
    "Who are in control, they are not in control of anything - they don't even control themselves!" - Glen Beck
  28. People whine but don't act by metamatic · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Most people just don't care that much. When a corporation does something to them, they'll whine, but they won't care enough to actually inconvenience themselves switching to a competitor.

    I mean, look at the number of people on Slashdot who still run Windows while claiming to hate Microsoft. "Oh, I need all those games", "OpenOffice isn't quite compatible enough", "I don't want to have to learn something new". Bleagh.

    I remember first becoming aware of this in the UK after telecom deregulation. I'd be talking to someone and they'd whine about long distance phone charges. "Well," I'd say, "Why don't you just get a Mercury account?" (Mercury being the first competing long distance provider, with rates less than a quarter of BT's in many cases). There would be a pause, then they'd say something like "Yes, but BT ought to charge less!"

    I remember hearing some statistic about the incredibly tiny proportion of customers willing to switch banks. How many people reading this pay ATM fees, monthly fees, fees for checks, even though they don't need to, because they're too lazy to switch banks? And of course, that's why banks introduce gratuitous fees in the first place.

    Me, I'm a switcher. A bigger bank bought the one I was at, said they were instituting fees. I took my new cards and checks in, withdrew all the money, closed the account, went elsewhere. Left the bank the task of shredding the paper and destroying the cards, told them it was their problem now.

    It's the same with these MySpace whiners. I bet if FOX held to their censorship, 90% of the whiners would just shut up and put up with it, just like most of my friends still use LiveJournal.

    --
    GCHQ Quantum Insert installed. If only our tongues were made of glass, how much more careful we would be when we speak
  29. Free market concept: no regulations vs competition by dada21 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is a proof of the free market concept of needing no regulations.

    Customers of Company A (MySpace) don't get what they want. Company B (and C and D and E, etc) offer a better product. Customers complain, customers change hands. Company A either listens to the mass choice making going on, or they go out of business.

    Isn't freedom awesome? Hundreds of thousands of people who don't even know each other are able to make a decision together without actually having to decide on what they want. The desires of the masses is met by open competition, not forced by regulations.

    Up until 15 years ago, I could understand the regulations debate. Now that the Internet allows millions (billions) to review companies on a whim (and soon via WAP and SMS), the need to regulate would be better covered by more competition. Regulations raise the cost of entry to a market, decreasing competition, decreasing choice, and increasing prices.

  30. We've attained perfection? by Neoprofin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I find it more than slightly humorous that the population of Slashdot is willing to put themselves on a pedistal long enough to bash the users of Myspace. Apparently after I went to bed last night the nerds became the highest class in the social order. They may not bathe, they may all die virgins, but on this day my friend, they can claim they are better than the population of another website.

    Before you go speaking in generalizations about everyone who uses is site, even if they are by and large scene kids with poor taste in music who take bad photos, remember that the road goes both ways. There are plenty of useless trolls on Slashdot that you wouldn't want to be judged with, and there are scores of people on Myspace who feel the same way about all the people you're mocking them with.

  31. *Somebody* is keeping Hot Topic in business. by cno3 · · Score: 2, Funny

    You know, the emo kids wearing "Know your Roots" t-shirts with game consoles older than they are?

  32. New Headline by MrCopilot · · Score: 2, Funny

    MySpace Users Revolting.

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    OSGGFG - Open Source Gamers Guide to Free Games
  33. Motorcycle Stunts? by Hershmire · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You'll let one child perform motorcycle stunts and show off to his friends but you won't let your other child buy pot? Am I missing something here? I'd rather my kid smoke a joint than eat through a tube for the rest of his life. Not that I'd like my kids to do drugs, but you get my point.

    --
    if(!toilet_paper) roll.replace(new roll); //Stupid roommates.
  34. I'm probably wrong, but by Hosiah · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I hope people are finally Getting It that if we are to subjugate ourselves entirely to technology, if we are content to surround ourselves with gadgets and gizmos, that than perhaps it's not a good idea to leave every single last scrap of control over technology, from space stations to digital watches, in the hands of about five trillionaires worldwide. Can anybody see a problem there?

  35. Re:Free market concept: no regulations vs competit by dada21 · · Score: 2

    Customer have access to accurate information about companies A-Z. Customers evaluate choices.

    Bull. This is a myth -- the free market never needs transparency, honesty or clear information.

    Companies that lie or hide the most get crushed the fastest on the occasion that someone does discover dishonesty. Companies that operate more openly tend to last longer. In recent history, the companies that defrauded the most did so by using accountants and lawyers to give them advice on how to skim the regulations close to the edge. The Enrons and the Worldcoms used your laws to screw you -- in a free market, they would never have lasted as long as they did.

    The SEC laws and regulations are the biggest reason behind corporate fraud.

  36. Re:something is not right about this one by kid-noodle · · Score: 3, Informative

    Here's the skinny - MySpace.com was originally a filesharing site, however that went defunct in 1999.
    The MySpace we know today appears to have always been owned by the same people - IntermixMedia (IntermixMedia.com), who were initially called eUniverse and are to all intents and purposes a (viral) marketing company. eUniverse changed their name following accounting troubles which resulted in them being delisted from the Nasdaq, and allegations regarding spyware.
    IntermixMedia was subsequently bought by News Corp. for an apparant $580m.

    Exactly where the two (three, including Brad Greenspan who left around the time of the troubles with the SEC) guys who apparantly started MySpace come into it all, is at best unclear.

    --
    fortune -o
  37. Haha funny but... by FauxReal · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I use MySpace to keep in contact with my friends, it's a good way to let people know about an upcoming event. I've also been able to contact/been contacted by friends from my past, some I have not heard from in more than 10 years. I'm not sure where this "file-sharing" moniker came from though, I've never used it to send or recieve a file, nor have I seen it mentioned on the site. Regardless, I have used it for social/business networking purposes and have gotten jobs out of it.

    It's also a good forum for unsigned/non-major label music artists to gather their supporting fanbase and recieve more exposure through reccomendations.

    Make fun of it if you must... but please realize it's not just the offspring of the people who made fun of you in highschool (the site is 18+ BTW), it's a useful site. If you do want to make fun of them though... check out the First Annual MySpace Stupid Haircut Awards.

  38. FYI Murdock owns FOX News by Billly+Gates · · Score: 2, Informative

    For those who live in the states you know what kind of biased garbage they produce. Murdock is an ultraconservative and Foxnews is owned by one of bush's cousins.

    I personally credit Murdock and Fox news for putting Bush into office twice due to the brainwashing. Whats scary is more viewers watch Fox then CNN and MSNBC combined and I could not believe the misinformation that is spewed out. Fox heavily went after Clinton as the most corrupt leader in American history but called Delay's indicement criminalizing politics.