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3D Human Cells Grown
SR_melb writes writes to tell us that Melbourn researchers have, for the first time, managed to grow three dimensional human cells. This bypasses previous achievements of only being able to create two-dimensional constructions like skin. From the article: "Professor Wayne Morrison, from Melbourne's Bernard O'Brien Institute of Microsurgery has led the breakthrough. He says it's a world first and predicts the discovery will ultimately lead to the creation of human organs, including parts of the heart, by using the patients' own stem cells. Such a scenario, says Professor Morrison, would reduce the problem of immune rejection which is often associated with organ transplants."
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Now if they could only solve the pesky problem of the cells going flat and generally just looking like crap after they take off their glasses, they'd really have something.
Funny. I didn't realize there were any 2D human cells. Maybe that's how Flat Stanley was able to slide under the door.
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And all this time I thought our cells where only 2D.
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The only catch is that you have to wear wacky-looking glasses to see them in 3D.
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I think 2D cells yould have been much more interesting, as it would imply that cells could operate with only one atom's worth of height. Unfortunately the submitter meanst 2D arragements of cells, which is much less cool. For example read: The Planiverse.
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what the editor/ writer meant was "Human Cells Grown in a 3D Matrix"
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that would have conveyed the substance of the story better, without idiots being confused and dorks laughing at the idiocy of the title, of which there is certainly to be a deluge of such comments
the title "4D Human Cells Grown" or "2D Human Cells Grown"... now that would have been interesting, as the laws of physics as we know them would have been breached, nevermind the laws of biology
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Blast it's non-harsh colors and easy-on-the-eyes rounded corners. How could they do such a thing?!
I, for one, welcome our new 3D unicellular overlords.
When I looked at the diagrams in my biology textbook, they always seemed to be 2D.
Wait, you mean they made a breakthrough using ADULT stem cells? They can't do that! Weren't we told that only embryonic stem cells were the answer to every disease known to mankind? What kind of frauds are these guys?
I live in multiple time dimensions you insensitive clod!
How is that different from the extracellular matrices used for cell growth as described in this article?
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One thing that researchers have managed is to grow bladders using a cellular matrix or structure. I've read that they have successfully used such a technique to grow bladders for people that have lost theirs to diseases such as cancer. Now having the ability to grow fully functional organs without the need for a matrix of some type is outstanding for the future of organ replacement.
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Now all they need to do is figure out how to correct the DNA sequence that caused me to need a transplant in the first place and we'll be set. Another copy of the first two organs wouldn't do me a whole lot of good...
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This article http://www.startribune.com/535/story/45512.html from a year ago would make me believe the researchers in Australia were not the first to accomplish this. Either that or they've taken a long time to tell anyone about it. The Star Tribune article is actually more interesting in that it gives more specifics on how the cells were actually grown.
Melbourn researchers have, for the first time, managed to grow three dimensional human cells.
I've been doing that for years.
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I know you meant your comment sarcastically, but it begs an interesting question. The body would regrow these organs based on a DNA map that probably wasn't explicit in every detail, only the important structural ones. It's likely that variations could happen each time the organ was grown, even on the same subject.
I'm imagining a Slashdot geek removing a certain "organ" and depleting their reserve of stem cells trying to grow a bigger and better one...re-rolling for a 20 style.
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FTA:"...reduce the problem of immune rejection which is often associated with organ transplants."
I had always assumed that immune rejection ALWAYS happened with organ transplants. Are there cases where a transplant has occured without rejection?
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Britain's 19th Century industry was so obsessed with railroads that it missed the chance to grow into cars. Britain has an auto industry, but it was easily eclipsed by the American car startups like Henry Ford.
America's 20th Century industry was so obsessed with drugs that it's missing the chance to grow into stemcells. Not just from complacency, but from actually outlawing stemcell research. American medical domination of the world can be eclipsed by foreign startups without such handicaps.
The US laws against stemcell prohibit the public investments in the basic science that the medical industry requires to take risks and develop the science. We have entrepreneurs, but they're both averse to medical science and drawn to the indemnities and subsidies available to drug research instead. Abroad there is much less inhibition, which is an opportunity. So stemcell research isn't stopped worldwide, though it is slowed, and less available to the Americans who should be able to dominate it too, instead of being left behind.
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I've always thought that using organs grown from stem cells is a good idea. But I've also wondered how long it would take to actually grow the organ, and what restrictions this would impose on usage, plus what the inherent limitations are - I imagine this wouldn't be very effective against cancer, for example. Anyone care to enlighten me?
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How many Slashdot articles will it take before people are not that impressed with 3D? And isn't it technically incorrect? Shouldn't it be 4D? Real Life! Now in IMAX!!! Please, someone post a article about something more earth-shattering than the conquering of a pesky dimension. It's not like it wasn't in 3D before, it's just a misuse of the language. They should have wrote that they conquered the problem of cell depth, not 3D. Anything but the totally played out 3D.
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So...just how do these cells stay alive? They need blood to carry the oxygen right?
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FTA: We have developed a special chamber which is patented with the Bernard O'Brien logo and this essentially is an empty box into which we implant a blood vessel using microsurgery techniques. And this is the link with the microsurgery, that we use microsurgery to create this environment and we mix cells inside this chamber and we let them grow according to the specific environment that we can create.
I work in a biomedical engineering lab that develops new imaging techniques and we grow tissue phantoms comprised of cells embedded in a collagen matrix - I think they would fit the bill of a 3D cell matrix. Other professors at our university also work to grow neurons, vascular beds, and heart tissue. The difference is that this group can grow the matrix around a blood vessel using their chamber. The vascularization issue is the main problem facing tissue engineers today and their "patented chamber" allows them to bypass the problem, although I do not see this development as a major leap forward. Until tissue can be grown with functional capillary beds, something this group has not managed to do, it can not be incorporated into a working organ for implantation. At best these boxes can be used for research and perhaps in an artificial liver type device. It is interesting to note the beating heart cells, though.
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3D? Was this suppose to be a buzzword to get more hits? Gamers must be hugh demographic of the Slashdot audience (ok major "well duh!" moment) Ok, an more accurate way to look at this article is that scientists have created complex tissue from stem cell precursors which is more interesting to those who study biology or medicine or just those who may need organs in the next couple decades. I know that the reporter is not very science oriented but rtfa, and you will realized what the article is all about There are slashdotters among us who will naturally read science articles without all the buzzwords. So, save them for the Vista review articles as you posted too many of them.
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We have to be thankful for this discovery. After all, the old two dimentional cells were completely useless to everyone except for the inhabitants of Flatland, and since the trade embargo, demand for these two dimetional cells has dropped incredibly. But we can all sleep a little sounder knowing that scientists are capable of growing cells that now come with all 3 dimentions. (/sarcasm)
Or perhaps what they really mean is growing cell CULTURES in 3D? Sheesh, only on slashdot...
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There are, of course, not 2d, but Double-D.
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A primary bullet in pro-abortion debates is that the discarded fetus can be used for stem cell research. This study indicates that the teqnique used the donor's own cells.
1. scaffolding - to build on (e.g. a heart is only useful if it has the correct dimensions and actions)
2. tissue variation and connections - if it doesn't connect well, and has specialization on the wrong side (e.g. the inside of a tissue is frequently different from the outside - just think of skin cells at various layers
3. nerves - no nerves in a growth state means we can't knit it together
4. comparable blood vessels, veins, arteries, capilliaries - for the blood you'll be needing
5. tissue compatability - this is critical, most organ transplants have major problems in their non-compatability - rejection is not a good thing, this is why everyone looks for the Holy Grail of Cloned Tissue (since it would automatically be compatable)
Oh, and until we see this done in the lab by three different research teams, it doesn't mean we can do it in real life. Just think of South Korea and their fake-out for why we're so skeptical. Although the canine experiment done there looks like it might be viable, and is therefore an advance.
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Finally, we will be able to expand ourselves beyond our meager 2D existence and explore this new, third dimension that we have discovered!
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One of the incredibly cool things is that this research didn't rely on Industry Funding, so it's not going to be held for massive profit by some corporation - rather it's going to be "cheap" as stem cell and genomic treatments go.
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Bullshit. Stem cell research has not been outlawed, and you know it. What has been cut off is federal funding for research that involves the creation and use of new lines of embryonic stem cells. No research has been outlawed. You can still get money from Uncle Sam for research using existing embryonic stem-cell lines. You can still get money from Uncle Sam for research using adult stem cells. If you're not bothered by the ethical implications attendant to creating new embryonic stem-cell lines, you can either fund the research yourself or secure state and/or private funding for your work.
If you had RTFA, you would've seen that the Australian researchers used adult stem cells. They're doing research that anybody right here in the U.S. could've done (and most likely are doing). That they got there first may end up being a point of pride for them (and rightly so), but there's nothing different about the legal climate here that would've prevented such a discovery.
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The third dimension is merely an idea from trashy science fiction that has no relevance to reality. What next? People claiming that you can tie knots in pieces of string and that you can enclose a region of space with simply connected surface?
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One of the big problems with the use of adult stem cells has been the difficulty in obtaining them in large quantities. The Catalyst television show last week described a process that has been developed to efficiently do this. It involves tagging the stem cells using antibodies, and attaching magnetic beads to the antibodies. A magnet is then used to extract the stem cells. In the procedure being described, the stem cells are then injected directly into healthy tissue, with the hopes that they will take on the characteristics of the healthy tissue, and replace nearby diseased or dead tissue. I would expect that the cells can also be used to regrow 3D tissue structures.
Excuse me, I won't spend the time digging up the USA Today article amongst many others, Google would love to do it for you, but I am certain that the bladder that was replaced, completely replaced, within a sufferer of spina-bifida (sp? or other such issues?) would be surprised to hear that her bladder was not, in fact, existing in three dimmensions and she is most likely pissing elsewhere than into the toilet. Come now, we have to do something about our sweet, yet, and for some time now, misled and unthoughtful, Slashdot. Nerds, it is time to unite, tell the kiddies to RTFM and then some, then post logical, researched, and slightly less retarded bullshit.
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