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Combating Harassing Use of Mosquito Noise Device?

amicold asks: "For a while now my neighborhood has had to deal with an elderly neighbor who has displayed a slightly paranoid attitude towards myself and the fellow younger-adults of the neighborhood, believing us to be attempting to harass him in our day-to-day activities. Recently, he installed a Mosquito ultrasonic noise device as an apparent attempt to 'get back at us' for our harassment. As the Mosquito emits a sound that's well out of his hearing range, he can't hear it, while most of the rest of the neighborhood is under 40 and can; at which point it's causing everyone a great deal of discomfort. Unfortunately, because the police also can't hear it, we can't get the authorities to do anything about it, leaving us empty-handed in our attempts at getting some peace and quiet back. What can we do to either help the police realize how disturbing this device is, or counteract it so that it's no longer disturbing us? And is this the first of what may be a growing trend of civilians using high-tech discomfort weapons as a method of neighborhood warfare?"

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  1. right back at them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting
    1. Re:right back at them by jpardey · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Bwoom Bwoom Bwoom Bwoom Bwoom Bwoom Bwoom Bwoom..... That would be some killer kick.

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    2. Re:right back at them by morethanapapercert · · Score: 2, Funny

      or better still, the loudest noisemaker I've ever heard of... http://www.victorysiren.com/x/index.html A noisemaker so loud it apparently starts fires! 138Db 100' from the unit!

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    3. Re:right back at them by JamesKelley · · Score: 2, Informative

      I would just sneak over his fence and physically disable the componet that makes the noise. He won't know it is broken, and you can just act like it is still working. That way he will be happy and so will you.

  2. Well, you could start by... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    You could start by getting off his damn lawn.

    1. Re:Well, you could start by... by jcr · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's amazing what you can do with a $0.99 bottle of super-glue!

      Yeah, like getting yourself tossed in jail for vandalizing other people's property! Woo, hoo!

      -jcr

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    2. Re:Well, you could start by... by Achromatic1978 · · Score: 5, Insightful
      What, "destruction of property" is a valid "option"?

      I guess if you're completely amoral and sociopathic...

    3. Re:Well, you could start by... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      You could fight back in two ways

      Use 2 directional low frequency drivers pointed at his house that would cause him to have a bowel movement.

      "Strong infrasonic or ultrasonic sound waves passing through the head, neck, or chest can cause gasping for breath, head pains, or a choking effect. The firing point of the weapon could be from inside of the house next door or the inside of the house across the street. Since the weapon is hidden inside of a house and no damage is done to either house, it is virtually impossible to visually detect it. The wave after striking its target and passing through the targeted house will dissipate in the atmosphere over a distance. This is truly a vanishing bullet. "

      Use 2 different directional high frequency (ultra sound) drivers pointed at his house from two different places but focused at his mosquito device. One at 38kHz the other at 40kHz. Where the two wave fronts meet there will be a loud interference tone of 2kHz.

      This is the system used in the Yahama Sound Stage.

    4. Re:Well, you could start by... by NeMon'ess · · Score: 4, Informative

      What would you call it if the neighbor was deaf and so could play loud music audible to everyone else, 24/7? People wouldn't be able to open a window without hearing it. Maybe even with the windows shut it's still audible inside the house. It's not destruction of property, but it's at least as vile.

    5. Re:Well, you could start by... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Getting off the guy's lawn is actually very good advice, considering the noise emitter only has a 15-20 metre range...

    6. Re:Well, you could start by... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Agreed - my first reaction to this is WTF?! It's a shame that we live in such a paranoid society where everybody thinks their neighbor is "out to get them" and that somehow that justifies an escalating spiral of "revenge" tactics. Life is too f'king short..you all should learn to relax more.

      Did you ever consider that maybe because he can't HEAR it he doesn't know there is a problem? Can you talk to him about it calmly and respectfully, or have you already become such bitter rivals that you would/could never do that..

      Like WTF would putting glue in the door locks accomplish? Nothing..because if you are smart you wouldn't get caught..and he wouldn't have a CLUE that the reason you did it was because of the "ultrasonic jammer". He would just get more irrate and do something MORE irritating. MATURE adults try to talk out their problems..assuming that you aren't living in redneck-city or something.

      Signed Sincerely,
      Your local naive anonymous coward.

    7. Re:Well, you could start by... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      When somebody "gets one over" on you, there are a bazillion ways to fight back.

      Fantastic. The guy is doing this because he thinks he's being persecuted, so you suggest... persecuting him? That won't escalate matters at all, will it?

    8. Re:Well, you could start by... by sm62704 · · Score: 2, Funny

      MATURE adults try to talk out their problems.

      If he were a mature adult he wouldn't have a problem because he couldn't hear it!

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    9. Re:Well, you could start by... by speederaser · · Score: 5, Informative

      "...maybe because he can't HEAR it he doesn't know there is a problem?"

      According to the products page, the purpose of the Mosquito is to drive teenagers away from an area by producing high frequency sound only they can hear. Older people cannot hear it. The device has no other purpose, and is certainly not a mosquito repellent device as some posters have assumed.

    10. Re:Well, you could start by... by NoTheory · · Score: 4, Insightful

      25 and 40 are both artificial cutoffs. This isn't a case of exaggeration, it's a use of inherently flawed statistics. If you take care of your hearing, and are genetically well endowed, it may be the case you can here these things your whole life. The ability to hear these things are a function of aural capability, not age.

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    11. Re:Well, you could start by... by Rauser · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah, or you could just get older--it's working for me :(

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    12. Re:Well, you could start by... by Cromac · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Maybe, but we don't know his side of the story either. From the summary "For a while now my neighborhood has had to deal with an elderly neighbor who has displayed a slightly paranoid attitude towards myself and the fellow younger-adults of the neighborhood, believing us to be attempting to harass him in our day-to-day activities.", that's just the kids point of view, maybe their idea of harmless day-to-day activities involves cruising up and down the block blasting (c)rap music and the old man and the rest of the neighborhood has had enough and that's the reason no one has asked him to stop.

    13. Re:Well, you could start by... by gutnor · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why destroying the car ? I doesn't help with your problem.

      Beter try to
      1. Talk the guy out of this
      2. Just destroy the moskito repeler in a fashion that is not apparent to the owner. After all if he doesn't hear it, you just have to take the first opportunity, open the box, and cut the alimentation to the speaker. Your problem is solve. The owner is happy because the nice blue led tells him that the device is working. And after all, if the guy is really paranoid, teens are not *really* invading his property, so he will never realise that the device is not actually working ( like garlic neclace to repel vampire )

      Off course if the guy has a real reason because your kids (neighbourhood kids) are drinking in his lawn every night, you have to solve that problem first. In that case, if you destroy the mosquito before, you can be certain the owner will call the police and unlike the sound, they will be able to see that you detroyed you neighbour property.

    14. Re:Well, you could start by... by numbski · · Score: 4, Insightful

      amoral, perhaps. However, consider this attitude as well:

      It's only wrong if you get caught. ;)

      (I don't actually buy into that attitude, but humor me for a moment.)

      Consider for a moment what the poster said - it's well out of his hearing range. So...2 am, wear earplugs. Go over to the unit, if you can, simply short one of the wires running to the speakers. If that's unreasonable, a few drops of super-glue down into the cone of the unit might just do the trick.

      The power light still comes on, the old man feels more safe, and the rest of the neighborhood has peace. Win-win.

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    15. Re:Well, you could start by... by AdamWeeden · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's the spirit! It's only illegal if you get caught!

      Remember: two wrongs don't make a right.

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    16. Re:Well, you could start by... by nsayer · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, but three rights make a left.

    17. Re:Well, you could start by... by iamhassi · · Score: 2, Interesting

      according to the FAQs
      "The effective range is between 15 and 20 metres. " = That's 65 feet

      That's a pretty long distance in the majority of US neighborhoods.

      From reading the website and the $937 price (UK£ 495) it's pretty obvious it's not designed for individuals looking to annoy your neighbors. It does effect your neighbors rather than just their children since the page says "the majority of people over the age of 25, have lost the ability to hear at this frequency range" so if you have any neighbors under 25 you're bugging the crap out of them.

      I think I'd contact the website and explain to them that you're a early 20s home owner and your elderly neighbor is trying to run you out of your house. I'd also print out the webpage and show it to the police, maybe you just need to have a younger police officer come out to the house?

      While searching information on the Mosquito I found this interesting: teenagers are actually using it as a ringtone in schools because teachers can't hear it.

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    18. Re:Well, you could start by... by numbski · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yup. I've learned over time however that hard and fast rules have rarely won over anyone for anything. Compassion for the needs of others and a desire to do right will however often win out. It sounds to me as though the person has taken every reasonable recourse, and if he has in fact approached the neighbor directly with a kind disposition and that has failed, has approached law enforcement, and that has failed, a mild bending of the rules and a "what he doesn't know won't hurt him" attitude probably isn't the worst approach.

      Bash me if you like, but unless you can suggest a better course of action than "return fire!", I would appreciate a bit more levity. I'm not heartless here.

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    19. Re:Well, you could start by... by Lord+Apathy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You could simply wait till the old goat is a asleep then jerk the god damn thing off the wall. Then giving it three hard wacks with a bat should do it. Since the fucker costs a 1000 bucks the old goat wouldn't be in a hurry to buy another one. Since the old fart is paranoid you might want to dress in all black and wear a hood on your mission. Think ninja. He might have security cameras up.

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    20. Re:Well, you could start by... by drsquare · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Just because it's illegal doesn't make it wrong.

      Only by treating others how we WISH to be treated, and not by how they treat us first, is our society going to advance.

      That Jesus crap doesn't work when you're dealing with senile dickheads who go out of their way to make other people's lives a misery.

      Remember that vigilantism is necessary when the police and relevent authorities refuse to do their jobs.
    21. Re:Well, you could start by... by shorgs · · Score: 3, Funny

      From the link: the Mosquito ultrasonic teenage deterrent has been described as "the most effective tool in our fight against anti social behaviour". Shop keepers around the world have purchased the device to move along unwanted gatherings of teenagers and anti social youths. Gatherings of anti social youths. Other featured products are, the worlds darkest lightbulb and the worlds hottest air conditioner.

    22. Re:Well, you could start by... by Salgak1 · · Score: 2, Funny

      . . . and two Wrights make an airplane, but that's not important right now . . .

    23. Re:Well, you could start by... by gardyloo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The "sharing" of music with everyone is one of my biggest pet-peeves. People don't seem to realize that neighbors might want to work at home, and don't want to be distracted with, e.g. loud music of any sort.

          Or people have young children who can't sleep with crap blaring; or older people who can't sleep with crap blaring; or, just for fun, how about your friendly emergency room nurse or doctor, who happens to pull a night-shift. When THEY can't do their job effectively because of some asshole neighbor, good luck to you.

          Perhaps your neighbors did escalate things a bit much when they called animal control. However, you certainly didn't help things by keeping the whole damned neighborhood awake and crabby. Nice job.

          I'm glad that police here take noise complaints seriously, no matter what time of day they're reported.

    24. Re:Well, you could start by... by v1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I used to work 3rd shift. I would sleep from 8am to 4pm. The next door neighbor owned one large dog. His father passed away, and he inheirited a medium and small dog, all of which were now left loose in the back yard all day long while he was at work. The little dog would start barking at the slightest provocation, such as spotting a rabbit in a back yard two houses away. This would eventually get the medium dog barking for no good reason other than to join in, and the large dog even would start in. One rabbit spotting could produce 15 minutes of continuous barking from all three dogs. This would generally occur several times a day, every day. On some days it never really seemed to stop, barking almost nonstop between 10am and 4pm when I finally got up for work.

      We tried taking to him several times, but he didn't feel he had a choice since the dogs were thrust upon him and he wasn't around during the day to stop it and could not leave the dogs in his house during the day. (I hear they ripped the place apart whenever he was away) So he made his problem my problem.

      We finally tried some phonecalls and that got him several warnings which went largely ignored. I talked with other neighbors only to find out that several of us had called in complaints. But they would send no more written warnings now, the only recourse we were left with at that point was filing a written complaint, which would fetch him a fine, and our name would be on the ticket as the complainer. We decided it wasn't worth it and to just deal with the barking. (same for the other neighbors, we did not wish to start a fight) I was very thankful when he finally found a home for the animals (all of them!) a few months later.

      Most people that own problem-barking dogs take the view that it is not their problem and that they neither have any control over their animal nor is disturbance created by the dog their responsibility. These are the ones that will respond with "what do you want me to do, tape his mouth shut?" or the one they always come up with, "a dog's gonna bark." For these people, until you make your problem their problem, they will refuse to do anything about it. Consideration for others is not as common of a trait as you might imagine. In these cases you often have to appeal to the more basic "cause and effect" concept that can be used to show reason to even the rock heads.

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    25. Re:Well, you could start by... by pizpot · · Score: 2, Interesting

      and I found that EAR PLUGS work great, and keep me from yelling at the kids when I am trying to sleep during the day because I worked last night. Sure I tried to win the battle by asking them to shut up but in the end, only ear plugs worked.

    26. Re:Well, you could start by... by tylernt · · Score: 2, Funny

      You could offer to buy your neighbor one of those collars that shock the dog when it barks.

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    27. Re:Well, you could start by... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Ban automobile subwoofers. There's the solution! LOL We all hear these things, yet a lot of kids seem to feel they have some "right" to make everyone else hear AND feel their choice of music. It's annoying when you can't even talk with your kids in the backseat because some idiot has the bass blaring. I'm 45; I CAN hear these mosquito devices loud and clear. It would bother me every bit as much as the loud bass (except the bass will travel through walls better)! So how about just keeping it down? Is the reason he's doing this just because he's cranky (not all older people are unreasonable, and sure enough you'll be one too), or is it because you are blaring your bass into everyone's home? This is a serious question and I'm not taking sides.

    28. Re:Well, you could start by... by CommieOverlord · · Score: 2, Funny

      should be as quiet as rural North Dakota,

      I was chatting with some friends in their living room one friday night, with the windows/patio door open to let in air. The neighbour across the backyard came over to complain because she "couldn't hear the leaves in the trees".

    29. Re:Well, you could start by... by BalanceOfJudgement · · Score: 2, Informative
      Assuming that your speakers can reproduce the frequency of course :)
      At first I was thinking "Blast.. I AM going deaf..."

      Then I realized my speakers only go up to 16KHz. :) I need to find some other speakers to try this on...
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  3. Ask Slashdot? by ag0ny · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Instead of "Ask Slashdot", shouldn't this be under "Ask Your Lawyer"?

    1. Re:Ask Slashdot? by rolfwind · · Score: 2, Insightful

      To settle disputes, turning to a lawyer may not be the correct move. I mean, a lot of times it is, but there is the chance it gets expensive and out of hand. I would consider turning to the lawyer only for egregious offenses, or a last resort.

      An annoying neighbor is not there yet (as a first step) unless they start to build fences on your side of the property or something of that level.

    2. Re:Ask Slashdot? by arivanov · · Score: 5, Informative

      If it is in the UK you can use the standard laws against nuisance noise for which you do not need a lawyer. Dig the relevant address of your council website, write a well written letter and off you go. Same as with security lights shining with your windows. No need for using your lawyers. This is something you pay for using your council tax.

      Most other legislations around EU (and many other countries outside it) are not any different. All you need to do is find the relevant local council address and send a complaint. They will send an engineer with measuring equipment at your site ASAP. The mere appearance of the van with the measurement equipment may be enough for the idiot Meldrew clone to take his Mosquito and shovel it where sun does not shine.

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    3. Re:Ask Slashdot? by antoinjapan · · Score: 2, Informative

      Except in the UK the council puts them up.
      http://www.compoundsecurity.co.uk/deterrent_news_8 5.html

    4. Re:Ask Slashdot? by Maximalist · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well, initiating a lawsuit shouldn't be beyond the ability or budget of anybody here. Depends on your state, but some places you can file a "Writ of Summons" that lets the other party know you've got beef with them, and open the door to discovery for you, without having to draft a proper legal complaint. The pre-complaint discovery is to help you draft the complaint... If the form for the Writ wants the gist of your action, the magic word here is "nuisance". Serve the grumpy old geezer with a Writ, and then serve him with interrogatories asking all kinds of information about the device, where he purchased it, when he installed it, why he installed it, what its specs are, etc... . If he ignores them, then pay a lawyer to argue for sanctions for contempt of court for his disobedience of the order to answer them that comes with the interrogatories. Where I am, you're looking at a total bill of maybe $500 at that point, and most of that is paying the lawyer to put the screws to him. If the lawyer is good, you might get attorney's fees assessed against the grumpy old guy too, so you costs just went way down again.

    5. Re:Ask Slashdot? by AusIV · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Suing gets expensive and out of hand. Consulting a lawyer about a public nuissance, and possibly having the lawyer send a letter to the offender would probably be wise, and relatively inexpensive.

    6. Re:Ask Slashdot? by ultranova · · Score: 2, Insightful

      In Soviet Russia... people used to do just that...

      And now that the Soviet Union is gone and the West no longer has any reason to keep up its image, the West is fast becoming the new Soviet block, at least as far as legal system and people's rights are concerned. Isn't historical irony wonderfull ?

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  4. Try this by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Take pictures of it. Print out the link you have in your post and any other documentation you can find on the thing. Ask a community service officer from the police to come out. She will probably be a she. She will probably be young, and since not carrying a gun, will not have spent a bunch of time on the firing range ruining her hearing. She will hear it, and since the docs clearly show it is designed to be annoying, she will be on your side. Probably. Maybe. You can try it and hope, anyway.

    Plan B. You like Hendrix, right? With breakfast. Early. Turn it up to eleven.

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    1. Re:Try this by Frumious+Wombat · · Score: 3, Funny

      Do it yourself. If you're annoying people, DIY Hendrix is better than recorded. Be sure to wear your American Flag suit when you step out on your back deck to serenade him. An old Heathkit amp with some bad solder joints for extra distortion will help as well.

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    2. Re:Try this by Tlosk · · Score: 5, Interesting

      There was a piece on NPR radio a few weeks ago about an inventor who is marketing a device similar to the mosquito one in this article only it is specifically desinged to be annoying to teenagers (he had problems with them congregating in front of his store). Amusingly his daughter then subverted it for her own use by creating ringtones of the noise so that she could turn her phone on during school (since vibra mode can still be audible in a quiet classroom) and none of the teachers can hear it even though everyone else can lol.

      They even had the ringtone as a downloadable ringtone there (you can't of course hear it at all if you're over 25 or so, as you age you lose the ability to hear in those outlier frequency ranges).

      Here's a link to the story:

      http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?story Id=5434687

    3. Re:Try this by rolfwind · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Or at night, plan a raid, whereby you break the device in such a fashion that all the nice little leds stay on (take out the speaker or whatever makes the noise). This will require a screwdriver and you bringing it back to your place. The old man, never having heard the device doesn't know it is broken and is happy annoying you and you are happy as well. Everybody wins^_^

    4. Re:Try this by fandog · · Score: 2, Funny
      an inventor who is marketing a device [snip] specifically desinged to be annoying to teenagers

      Gee, all you have to do is play light jazz to drive teenagers off... And that solution is <$10. Quite an invention that light jazz.

    5. Re:Try this by NormalVisual · · Score: 4, Informative

      I guess other people really can't hear when the TV is left on.

      I can. It's the flyback transformer in your set making that noise - a very loud 15.75 KHz tone. I'm almost 40 years old and haven't taken real good care of my hearing, and it still bugs the hell out of me. One solution to the noise problem is to get a non-CRT television set (plasma, LCD, DLP, etc.).

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    6. Re:Try this by kc8apf · · Score: 2, Informative

      Sadly, even the DLP TV I have creates a whine. The power supply for the lamp is more than likely a flyback.

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    7. Re:Try this by Henk+Poley · · Score: 4, Informative

      That's called 'coil noise'. There are a couple of coils (circular wound wires) on the motherboard. Normaly they shouldn't have any room to move a bit, but if they have they will vibrate in their magnetic field. You can use a tube to find the offending coil. Put the tube to your ear and move with the other end over the motherboard until you find the spot that emits the noise. Applying hotglue seems to be the most effective way to cancel the noise.

    8. Re:Try this by volpe · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I was about to suggest that but you beat me to it. So let me add a little suggestion: Instead of trying to carefully break the thing in the middle of the night, buy another identical device from wherever he got it (Home Depot, whatever) and take your time breaking it carefully. Then just swap the two in the middle of the night. Then return the properly-functioning one to the store for a refund.

    9. Re:Try this by skam240 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Or at night, plan a raid, whereby you break the device in such a fashion that all the nice little leds stay on...

      Screw that. I'd just head over there at 3 in the morning and smash it with a hammer (and I'm dead serious for those looking to mod this funny). I've had to deal with people of this sort in dealing with my condo association and let me tell you, there are certain segments of the elderly who literally hate everyone. Given that the police will do nothing about this, the only option is to take things into your own hands. These units are fairly expensive and some one on a limited budget (such as your typical elderly neighbor) will likely not have the resources to replace such a device. I would Hop the fence at three in the morning and anything that looked like it might be emitting the sound would be either stolen or smashed.

      For anyone who has moral concerns over smashing the property of an elderly person, said person should take into consideration the fact that this elderly person has installed a device which targets young neighbors regardless of their actions or behavior. Punishing all individuals of a given group regardless of guilt is certainly immoral. Furthermore, said elderly neighbor has plenty of options through the local police department in dealing with disturbances and has no right to take things into their own hands

      Given that the police will do nothing about this, one has no option but to take things into ones own hands.

      Of course if you choose this course of action you should be careful in doing so and recongnize the fact that it is illegal. I'm really just saying what I would personally do and not necessarily what you should do.

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    10. Re:Try this by SillyNickName4me · · Score: 2, Insightful

      For anyone who has moral concerns over smashing the property of an elderly person, said person should take into consideration the fact

      Blahblahblah.. 2 wrongs don't make a right.

    11. Re:Try this by fuzzix · · Score: 3, Insightful
      I'm 35 and heard it just fine. This product probably discourages a lot of normal business as well.
      I wonder if the fact that there was MP3 compression applied effected the sound. I'd rather hear an uncompressed version to be sure that I wasn't just perceiving some mpeg artefact.
    12. Re:Try this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      The old don't tend to sleep well.
      The old are rumored to favor shotguns loaded with rock salt.
      The old are generally sympathetic figures to those of us who don't deal with them every day.

      You are a snot-nosed young'un who's hopping a fence at 3am with a deadly weapon, and just stupid enough to admit that you were planning to vandalize a particular old person's house.

      This could go very, very badly for you.

      I should know. I'm 35 and I already own the shotgun.

    13. Re:Try this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Simply unplug it and place it conveniently behind a tire of their car for safekeeping.

    14. Re:Try this by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Furthermore, said elderly neighbor has plenty of options through the local police department in dealing with disturbances and has no right to take things into their own hands.

      But you just advocated vigilante actions when it doesn't appear that all legal options have been exhausted. Not only did at least one poster suggest other options through the police, there is the community government as well.

    15. Re:Try this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Very well stated. But I suspect the main goal is to pester the old geezer. Some kids do pester old geezers, intentionally or not, just as some old geezers pester young ones. Perhaps the police responded as they did because they've gotten numerous calls from the geezer, complaining about actions of the young folks, and the police said basically they couldn't do anything unless caught in the act. (I've no idea what is really going on, just as most readers don't...I'm just giving a possible alternative view.)

      Finally, this sort of thing RARELY comes out of the blue.(although that's possible) Often it's the result of a relationship in which people have consistently been less than good neighbors. Reading the suggestions of those who think destroying the individual's property, including car, etc., I suspect a lot of folks are bringing their frustrations with others to their advice.

      As to cranking up Hendrix, depending on how old he is, he might be happy for the "Oldies night." He'd probably hate rap more. But, then again, so might your other neighbors. And his hearing, as mentioned, is probably not as acute as yours, so it would probably damage the ears of younger folks more than older ones. Note: This does not apply to those who have already damaged their ears using iPods or other "personal" music players, if used as eardrum destructive devices.(playing them loudly) Hmmm, maybe a good common ground might be, "Which audiologist do you use?"

      If, indeed, the original poster wanted the problem handled, perhaps the innocent young folks should find a young person the geezer likes, and have a dialog begun about how to improve your relationships. Often people have no clue that something they are doing is bothering someone else. (witness cell phone conversations, where the talker is louder than the speech of people nearby.

    16. Re:Try this by ATMD · · Score: 2, Funny

      Happy birthday!

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    17. Re:Try this by SillyNickName4me · · Score: 2, Insightful

      They do, in nearly all cases.

      Only for those who disregard the consequences.

      Creating a bigger monster to fight a monster will work for fighting the monster.. Only problem is you are now left with a bigger monster then what you started out with, hence having made the situation worse, not better, despite the original 'monster' being gone.

    18. Re:Try this by drsquare · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Destroying a device put there for the sole purpose of causing people misery is not a wrong.

    19. Re:Try this by hedwards · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah really, I still can't shop for TVs in person without getting all twitchy.
      I dunno, at least here in the US, one could request accomodations. Of course it
      really shouldn't be necessary. What is worse is when the monitors are in public
      places.

      In the case of the problem at hand, file a harassment complaint with the police.
      It isn't the job of the officer to decide whether or not it is harassment, just
      to determine the facts in the matter. In all likely hood getting a summons from
      the local DA's office will stop this behavior.

      Otherwise, if the police are not taking it seriously you can always complain to
      the local oversight board about them not properly investigating the problem.

    20. Re:Try this by nsayer · · Score: 3, Informative

      If you remember Heathkit, then you're more likely in the old coot's camp than in the kids'.

    21. Re:Try this by skam240 · · Score: 2

      The article states that they've already tried going through the police with no success. My statement was made with the assumption that they has persued all avenues along this path.

      In regards to community government, trying to get anything out of them for something as small as this would take months. Months of enduring a horrible high pitch sound while trying to relaxe in their yard.

      The only time efficient solution I could come with for if I was in that situation would be to go over there and smash it.

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    22. Re:Try this by Sir+Holo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I wonder if the fact that there was MP3 compression applied effected the sound. I'd rather hear an uncompressed version to be sure that I wasn't just perceiving some mpeg artefact.

      No chance of it being an artifact. It's a single-frequency tone, so the MP3 version is loss-less. MP3 throws out the quieter frequency bands to get a file down to the desired bandwidth or "size." This sound has no quieter frequencies, just the one, so nothing is thrown out, hence no artifacts.

    23. Re:Try this by slimey_limey · · Score: 2

      But most MP3 compressors will throw out higher frequencies to gain better encoding quality at the lower, more audible frequencies. Remember that many engineers are over 25. :)

  5. Quit bitching by sockman · · Score: 4, Funny

    And record the "noise" phase shift it by 180, and play it on your stero. Viola, no mosquito.

    1. Re:Quit bitching by ivan256 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yeah, that will work great in a two dimensional world. Here in three dimensions it will suck a lot in all the places where amplitude is doubled instead.

    2. Re:Quit bitching by ToasterofDOOM · · Score: 2, Informative

      That will work, but only at certain angles. Really, you don't need to 'Phase shift' it, that happens naturally. All he needs to do is play the sound an integer + 1/2 number of wavelengths away from the original source and at the same volume, and he should be as close to inline with both sources as possible. Really, you were right in concept though. It's basically a moire effect for waves http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_noise_control http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_cancellation

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    3. Re:Quit bitching by mlyle · · Score: 4, Informative

      You sir, are an idiot.

      The wavelength of, say, 14KHz sound is very, very small -- about 2.5cm.

      Therefore the "shadow" cast by a cancelling device is also very, very small unless the out-of-phase canceller is right next to the noise source. The phase of the canceller will reverse (making things louder rather than quieter) every 1.2cm of distance difference between (the listener and the sound source) and (the listener and the canceller).

      So, if you're say 10 meters from the canceller, and 20 meters from the guy's noisemaker, and the devices are in line (the best case) with your present position... you just need to go about .7 meters left or right for things to be at double intensity.

      Not really a practical solution.

    4. Re:Quit bitching by Scaba · · Score: 2, Funny

      Are you trying to say the phase-shifted noise of a Mosquito annoyancebot sounds like a viola?

    5. Re:Quit bitching by Ihlosi · · Score: 4, Funny
      You sir, who likes to call other people idiots, seem to lack a fundamental understanding of the relationship between frequency and wavelength, as well as the basics of using an internet search engine.

      And then there's people who lack the fundamental understanding that sound waves do not propagete at lightspeed.

  6. Get a young police officer... by gweihir · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I think the only way to go is the legal route. Try to get a young police officer. If that fails, get an expert that can measure the signal and testify about ist impact on younger people. I would be surprised very much if hwat your neoghbour does is legal.

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    1. Re:Get a young police officer... by jpardey · · Score: 5, Funny

      If you can't get a young police officer, kidnap a young police officer's young child and strap him to your neighbour's lawn. This will give the police someone to trust, and will also get you away from the house for a few years.

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    2. Re:Get a young police officer... by ivan256 · · Score: 5, Funny

      slice its power cord or something at 2AM in the morning

      Dispite the redundancy in there, I think that's a great idea! If you keep complaining about the damned thing after you've disabled it, he won't even know it's broken.

  7. Observation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Not that I'm condoning any particular course of action, but I just though it worth pointing out that if he can't hear it himself, he can't tell if it's still functioning. Just an observation.

    1. Re:Observation by MichaelSmith · · Score: 4, Insightful
      if he can't hear it himself, he can't tell if it's still functioning.

      Only if the poster stops complaining. So if the device has an accident with a pair of wire cutters in the middle of the night one should continue to act outraged for a while.

    2. Re:Observation by Brett+Johnson · · Score: 2

      When the company I working for in 1995 moved to its new building, my new cubicle was positioned directly under a paging system speaker. After hearing the VP marketing/sales paged every 15 minutes for a week, the speaker above my desk mysteriously stopped working late one night ;-). That "problem" remained until I left, five years later.

    3. Re:Observation by MichaelSmith · · Score: 2, Interesting
      my new cubicle was positioned directly under a paging system speaker.

      Yeah I had that problem until about six months ago. The most anoying thing is that occasionally the receptionist who pages people would key the microphone, inhale prior to speaking, get distracted and forget about saying anything.

      There seems to be a low level mute switch in all of us which waits for the other person to speak, after hearing them inhale. Its like those DOS tricks where you initiate a connection and don't complete it.

  8. how about by teh_mykel · · Score: 2, Insightful

    how about you go talk to him, ask him to turn it off maybe?

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  9. Skip the police. by ivan256 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Who needs the cops? Sue him. He'll take it down in seconds. You won't even have to go to court.

    Then, all you need to do is be annoying enough that he moves to Florida. (Unless you already live in Florida, in which case you're screwed.)

    1. Re:Skip the police. by linuxtelephony · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Claim it's damaging your ears and killing your ability to hear sounds in the higher frequency range. If it's on after 10PM (or whatever the local disturbing the peace violations occur), call the cops and report that high pitch noise is disrupting your peace. Have all the neighbors also call. If it's more than one household, they'll do something. When the responding officers don't do anything, get their names and badge numbers (but, as we learned earlier, don't videotape them unless you want to be a martyr) and then call and complain that they responding officers failed to stop the disturbance in the neighborhood and ask for supervisors.

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  10. Beat frequency by MichaelSmith · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Build a similar device to emit noise at a slightly different frequency. The result will be horrible sounds as the two waves interfere. The horrible sounds will seem to come from both your source and the original source. You may get the blame but at least the cops/etc will believe that an issue exists.

  11. ideas by alienw · · Score: 2, Funny

    Well, if the cops don't care, you don't need to stick to legal means. I hear BB guns work pretty well for destroying plastic things. Paintball markers are also quite excellent for this purpose. Or use a nice big water gun on it. Of course, I recommend you just call the cops again. There are plenty of cops under 40.

  12. Egg 'im by talkingpaperclip · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just egg his house. That will surely make him realize his immaturity and bring a swift end to his harassment.

  13. PLL by MichaelSmith · · Score: 2, Insightful

    He could use microphone and amplifier to pick up the signal and a phase locked loop to divide the frequency by two, then feed the lot into a really big speaker. The only hard part is convincing people that the bad noise is really coming from over there.

    OTH how about using the stereo effect? If the neighbour on the other side can go along with it bracket his place with speakers and feed the signal in so it appears to be coming from the original location? I like this article. Lots of hacking potential.

  14. Hmmmm by MyLongNickName · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Am I the only one that thinks this is a novel Slashvertizement?

    How many of you thought "hmmmm. I could use this to really annoy xxx"?

    And note that the link goes to a specifc supplier of such items. Not a generic link.... say a wiki. I mean, who really believes that some guy cannot get a cop under 40. Cannot figure out that he should talk to the police and explain more, or maybe go to see a lawyer... or maybe sneak into his neighbor's year with a baseball bat and a ski mask?

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    1. Re:Hmmmm by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 2, Informative
      Not a generic link.... say a wiki. I mean, who really believes that some guy cannot get a cop under 40.

      I believe this device is only made by one manufacturer (patented, probably). And according to the web site of the anti-social child-torturing bastards ("Won't somebody please think of the children, and ban this horrible thing?!?!") who make this device, the high frequencies it uses are generally inaudible to people over 20.

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    2. Re:Hmmmm by cheesygrapes · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yep, From the human rights review in the legal section (there's something about this in the questions too but they seem to be more truthful in the legal section, mentioning that it actually can cause hearing damage in long term exposure): "2. As the transmission of the sound produced by the Device is directional and as high frequency wavelengths do not travel through solid objects, we do not consider that it is likely that the Device will cause a nuisance to neighbours of its users. " Since this is not heard by adults because it is a very high frequency and since it doesn't travel that far even through open air, I doubt it could bemuch of bother sleeping nearby or such since you wouldn't be able to hear it through the walls of your house.

    3. Re:Hmmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      No, this is a real story. I actually wrote it based off of a forum post by someone else as a quasi-humorous way to see how the Slashdot readership would handle it.

  15. Do an end run around him. by Mattintosh · · Score: 5, Funny

    Several (disjointed) ideas sprang to mind:

    1) Get a sound meter (dB meter, noise level meter, or whatever it's called where you are) and call the cops again. Show the meter to the officer.
    2) Buy big speakers and send some noise his direction that he CAN hear. I recommend NES chiptunes.
    3) Disconnect the device without his knowledge. He can't hear it, so he can't tell if it's working or not.
    4) Kick the neighbor in the nuts. If he gets angry, kick him in the nuts again. If he threatens you, proceed to #5.
    5) Shoot him. You didn't need the curmudgeonly bastard anyway. Take his stuff and tell his family he went on vacation to BFE. Be sure to dispose of his body properly - through a wood chipper, then burn the chunks. Invite other young neighbors over for BBQ. Display a big cookbook with a cover that says "To Serve Annoying Old Neighbors".

    (And just for the humor impaired, options 4 and 5 are not serious. I am not the voice in your head telling you to assault or kill your neighbor. That voice is named Larry. I'm Matt.)

  16. £495 ...? by euxneks · · Score: 4, Informative

    This guy spent £495 to annoy the shit out of you? Either you deserved this, or the guy is a complete prick, in the latter case, fight fire with fire. Get some _very_ large subwoofers, a good amp, and play a song like Hootchie Mama by 2 live crew, or if that's not your style, maybe something like "Superpredators" by Massive Attack.
        Or, even if you don't like that, just find something with real spleen shattering bass and just blast it.

    Also, for those interested, I found a link to the mosquito sound here from an article at the Beeb here, also, another interesting turn-around:
    http://www.boingboing.net/2006/05/24/kids_turn_tee n_repel.html
    Quite fascinating...

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  17. Let me tell you how this works by Profane+MuthaFucka · · Score: 2, Funny

    I recognize this situation. The woman is a sociopath. She is doing all this to make people around her jump, for the purpose of her own amusement.

    There's really only one thing to do when faced with a sociopath, and that's to completely stay our of her life entirely. She's so completely emotionally different from you that she's practically not human. Really, her only purpose in life, the only way she can break the monotony of feeling only primitive emotions is to think of ways to make all the people around her jump.

    But since you don't have that option, you can at least fight back. This will NOT solve your problem because she can't stop what she's doing. But it'll be fun.

    I recommend that if she has a dog or cat, kill it, paint the inside of her car with the feces and blood, dump the organs down her chimney, and throw what's left through her front window. Let her stew on that a while. After she gets her car and house cleaned up, get a can of gas and burn them both to the ground. That's about what it's going to take to stop this old lady if she's truly a sociopath, short of putting her in the hospital or worse.

    If you're not willing or able to do this, then you really need to consider what you're going to do. Measured responses are going to be worse than doing nothing at all. Maybe you should disable her noisemaker device somehow. She can't hear it anyway, how will she know it's broken?

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  18. Noise Cancelling by CompotatoJ · · Score: 5, Funny
    You could try setting up a device (such as a stereo or computer speakers) which cancels out the noise which I believe is 17KHz. If you emit the exact opposite sound, they will cancel out each other. It uses the same principle as noise-cancelling headphones. I hope this ASCII drawing of how the waves will interact helps:
    Mosquito Wave: /^\/^\/^\

    Opposite Wave: \_/\_/\_/

    = Combination: ---------
    1. Re:Noise Cancelling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not really. For this to work, you would have to hit exactly the same frequency and opposite amplitude. Which is a bit of a problem, if your 'cancelling wave' emitter sits in a different place than the original source as the amplitude decreases with distance from the source. Now try to imagine two sources and where their amplitudes would match (possibly on a plane somewhere between them, definitely not in the whole space).

  19. Apply System Engineering: Full Analysis by cmholm · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Analysis: before implementing a solution, is to make sure you've got the full picture. Note that your neighbor is in fact being harassed by something, if not intentionally. What is that thing? If it's something you are doing... Trade Study: will it be a major or minor imposition to not do it; can you bring yourself to politely inform your neighbor that you'll not do it in exchange for taking the offending device offline?

    If either you or the neighbor doesn't want to deal: since you've already alerted the authorities that the device is an issue, I'd pass on petty crime or felony-based solutions you likely suspect, you. You and your neighors should keep a running record of your complaints to the police. You might try borrowing/buying a meter that'll measure the dB of the frequency in question. Then, while you can ask for a younger officer that can hear the noise, if you get someone my age, at least the officer will have something to go on.

    If you get the device taken offline without dealing with what's pissing your neighbor off, you may just be trading one headache for another.

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  20. You call this a neighbor problem? by Tal+Cohen · · Score: 2, Funny

    Our neighbors are firing Katyusha rockets at us.

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    1. Re:You call this a neighbor problem? by SillyNickName4me · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Unfortunately it's not quite so simple.
      The situation can be summarised as follows:

      If the X put down their weapons there would be peace.

      If the Y put down their weapons there would be genocide.


      And the problem is that X is always us and Y is always them, and everyone believes this to be true, and so won't put down their arms.

      Matter of fact is, both sides are extremely wrong and beyond any legitimacy in the mentioned conflict. Just cut it off and start trying to actually take your obligations seriously.

  21. I can relate... by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 5, Funny
    I can relate...

    Two years ago, the building next to mine was being totally renovated (they gutted everything but the outside walls).

    And they had that big honking alarm that would go off each time a cat or a bird would go inside the structure.

    Of course, it went off at 2 in the morning many times.

    After a few weeks, we got to get pretty pissed at it, so I started to grab a pair of cutters, and enter the place despite it being barricaded (from the third floor, the balconies of the respective buildings are only 2 feet away). Then it's just a matter of finding the wire and snipping it.

    Of course, they would fix it, until the next snip...

    The last time I did it (at 3 in the morning), I was so pissed that I cut the wire in about 200 one inch long little sections. This must have drove the message home because that's the last time we heard the fucking alarm...

    1. Re:I can relate... by SnowZero · · Score: 4, Insightful

      As someonw who has experienced major vandalism, including having all the windows broken out in a house we owned that was gutted and even amateur attempts at burning it down

      I live in a city, and I think most alarms are simply pacifiers that serve no real purpose. Think about it; If the alarm went off numerous times and nobody ever came, then there obviously wasn't any enforcement. Someone could do whatever they want anyway. An alarm that doesn't summon a person around is next to useless. It won't stop someone from breaking your windows (nobody's going to come), and it won't stop them from burning the building down (can be done from outside). If the alarm summoned the cops every time it went off, it would at least provide some security, and I'm sure the construction company would have fixed its sensitivity, since then it would cost them money for all the false alarms.

      If you don't like the alarm tell the guy about it and that it is bird and such setting it off so he can take actions to prevent entry to those birds and such.

      You're assuming he didn't ask them already. He very likely did ask them, and they "didn't see a problem" (since they weren't there at night). I would also like to know the fantasy city you live in where construction companies care what "the neighbors" think anyway. Where I live, they run jackhammers first thing in the morning, large generators all day (often away from where they work but next to someone else's place), and pour excess concrete in the gutter, partially ruining the street.

    2. Re:I can relate... by DavidTC · · Score: 3, Funny

      Oh, no, alarms are serious business.

      For example, when a car alarm goes off, that means someone is trying to steal it. It might have scared them away temporarily, but they'll certainly be back to steal the car.

      And, remember, it is legal to commit a lesser crime to prevent a larger one. For example, to stop felony grand theft auto, feel free to commit misdemeanor vandalism by slashing the tires of the car, keeping that pesky car thief from making off it with it. You might want to slash two of them, as most cars have spares in the trunk, and obviously car thiefs can get in there if they can get inside the car to set off the alarm. (Surely they have to get inside the car, no one would be crazy enough to have an alarm that goes off when people merely touch a car.)

      When the car owner finally shows up, he'll be very grateful that his car is still there. If you have time, though, you might want to leave a note for him that says the time his alarm went off, and telling him that he should have the police dust the inside of the car for fingerprints to try to track down the thieves. But I like to be an anonymous hero, walking past with a quick bend-and-slash, stroll to the next wheel, bend-and-slash, saving their car, and walking off with the mere satifaction of a job well done being my only reward.

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  22. Do this by Kohath · · Score: 5, Funny

    Here's the plan:

    1. Spend the next 30-40 years breeding and training vicious attack dogs
    2. Now you're over 40 and can hear it any more. (Plus, everyone loves dogs -- bonus.)

    It's foolproof.

  23. Re:still out of luck, time for plan B or C. by Rudolf · · Score: 4, Informative
    He might really just be out to get the bugs? Offer to buy him a better model bug zapper.

    If you follow the link in the story, you'd see that the neighbor in question did not install an insect control device (bug zapper) but rather something specifically designed to annoy young people and drive them away. (Mosquito is the brand name). From the link:

    The Mosquito ultrasonic teenage deterrent ... With an effective range of between fifteen and twenty meters Compound Security Devices field trials have shown that teenagers are acutely aware of the Mosquito and usually move away from the area within just a couple of minutes.....Mosquito ultrasonic deterrent can solve your problem.


    Did he tell you he was out to get you...?

    Based on the device the guy installed, I think it goes without saying.

  24. Shame by cachimaster · · Score: 2, Funny

    Dude! some crazy old man Pwned j00!! ROFL!

  25. A sound level meter won't help by Animats · · Score: 2, Informative

    This thing won't produce a reading on a standard sound level meter. There's a standard bandwidth weighting ("A-law") for sound level meters, based on data about hearing damage, and it cuts off at only 8KHz. That's the definition used in most noise ordnances.

  26. The solutions of solutions by CrashRoX · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If war is what he wants, war is what he will get! This is sure to drive him more nuts then the mosquitoes from his little ultra violet toy... Which by the way is about 5 times as costly as my solution. Use with extreme caution... The device I speak of is called "sonic nausea". This is the blurb from their site: "Sonic Nausea is a small electronic device which can really turn one's stomach. It generates a unique combination of ultra-high frequency sound waves which soon leads most in its vicinity to queasiness. It can also cause headaches, intense irritation, sweating, imbalance, nausea, or even vomiting. Hiding this device in your inconsiderate neighbors house might put an end to their late night parties. The abusive bureaucrat's office, the executive lunchroom... the possibilities are endless for that small portion of inventive payback. The unique soundwave characteristics make directional source determination difficult. Powered by one 9-volt battery (not included). For extended run time two AA batteries in a battery pack with transistor clips (available from most electronics stores) can be used instead. Use with discretion." Only $49.99!!! - http://www.telstarone.com/cs_sonic_nausea.htm If you do go with this method, please post a follow up or pictures :)

  27. Why don't you try... getting along? by Frangible · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Do you truly think the best option is further conflict? Getting legal authorities involved? Going to court?

    Why don't you try talking to the guy-- listen to him-- this simple act will make him more comfortable with you. Apologize to him. Buy him a gift. Show kindness.

    Which is of more value to you-- an empty, hollow sense of victory that will bring you no satisfaction, even if it does occur, or peace?

    "Whenever you are confronted with an opponent, conquer him with love." -Mahatma Gandhi

    "Suppose someone, to annoy, Provokes you to do some evil act. Why allow anger to arise and thus Do exactly as he wants you to do? If you get angry Then maybe he will suffer, maybe not. But by feeling anger yourself You certainly do suffer." "For in this world, Hatred is never appeased by more hatred; It is love that conquers hatred. This is an eternal law." -The Buddha

    1. Re:Why don't you try... getting along? by Frangible · · Score: 3, Informative

      "I believe that Gandhi's views were the most enlightened of all the political men in our time. We should strive to do things in his spirit: not to use violence in fighting for our cause, but by non-participation in anything you believe is evil." "Generations to come will scarcely believe that such a one as this walked the earth in flesh and blood." -Albert Einstein

    2. Re:Why don't you try... getting along? by AusIV · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Let's not forget

      "Do unto others as you'd have them do unto you." - Jesus.

      If I had a friend come to me asking advice on this subject, I'd loan them one of my copies of Dale Carnegie's How to Win Friends and Influence People. That book has helped me resolve quite a few conflicts, and is definitely worth a read.

  28. Have you tried... by Gordonjcp · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... asking him to turn it off?

    1. Re:Have you tried... by kebes · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think that is a good idea... but if I were you, I would ask a friend (who the elderly gentelman in question has never met) to go and ask. He/she should simply pretend/imply that they live "nearby"... the fact that the man has never met this person will make him think twice. He's probably not evil at the core, and he's only trying to get back at certain people. If he suddenly realizes that he's annoying others, he will probably stop.

      This new friend could be someone a bit older than all of you, in which case he may sympathize with them more and stop this particular annoying behavior.

      Alternately, you might get a friendly and attractive female to go and do the asking. It's amazing how frequently that can resolve a situation with a grumpy old man. I've seen it work more than once.

  29. DUMBASS RTFA! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It isn't a misquito repellant asshole!

  30. An economic war really... by EverLurking · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Looks like the speaker cone on the device is rather exposed.

    Betcha if you inject in some epoxy or expanding foam into said cone in quantities that won't be visible from the outside, the horn tweeter will stop making said annoying tone or at least attenuate the sound output or alter the frequency so that it won't be as bad.

    Do it right and it'll probably still look like it was still working this way too. Much faster than trying to disassemble something and disable it while making it look like it's still working. The old fart can't hear it anyways, so he'd never know that you'd broken the horn tweeter as many others have pointed out.

    You can also just go for a brute force/economic war approach:

    Your cost: A couple of bucks for a tube of quick setting epoxy with syringe type applicator. Or, if you don't want to do this manually or the unit isn't readily accessible try some home made/customized paint balls filled with acid/epoxy/superglue/something nasty His cost: $600-$750 + shipping per unit disabled.

    Just how many times do you think this guy will be able to afford to replace this device repeatedly? He's probably on fixed income so it's either the Mosquito or the Heart Medications/Doctor's Visits/Food/Heat/etc. The problem will soon go away given enough cheap paintballs I suspect.

    War after all is really a matter of economics. Does the damage you cause cost more to your opponent than it does to you and which of you can continue spending money while racking up damage/cost the longest? The guys with the biggest budget or the ability to do massive damage to the other side for cheaper usually wins.

    Dave

    --
    There are no stupid questions...just stupid people.
  31. Re:Who's paranoid ? by LanceUppercut · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm just amazed how many posters decide to spew their ignorant nonsense without even trying to understand the issue first! Several posetrs here referred to some "mosquito problem". What mosquito problem??? Do you have any idea about the purpose of "mosquito noise device"? Did you care to follow the link and get a clue first before posting?

    For the lazy clueless types: the mosquito noise device has nothing to do with any actual mosquitos or "mosquito problems". The purpose of the device is to annoy young people in order to prevent them from congregating in certain areas. For example, some store owners don't like seeing teenagers gather in front of their stores (drives away customers). The mosquito noise device is specifically designed for the purpose of creating unbearable conditions for those teenagers in order to drive them away. The idea is that young people hear and get extermely annoyed by high frequency (mosquito) noise, while older people simply don't hear it.

    So stop embarassing yourself with references to "mosquito problem". If the old man is really using that specific device, then the only reason he is using it is to annoy and harass those young people. The device has no other use of purpose.

  32. Re:I call bullshit by Stellian · · Score: 5, Interesting
    There's no way the little beeper in a phone would be able to reproduce the sound.
    Well, I've just tried that mp3 ringtone on my K750i Sony Ericsson, and I can hear it very clearly from the other room. On the other hand, my 54 y/o mom can't, and my 29 y/o brother sais it's faint. In 24 myself.
    That sound is only 15 KHz, and the mp3 has 48Khz sampling rate. And the buzzer in the mobile is perfectly able to reproduce high frequencies, it's the low freqs that cannot be reproduced.
  33. Try not being a dick? by whistlingtony · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I love the way everyone here says to go over and break his stuff.... Lovely...

    Ok, so he's probably an annoying old paranoid crank. He's not going to stop being annoying. If you go over and break his stuff, he'll just become more annoying.

    So don't go starting a neighborhood war.

    You might try... oh... I don't know... TALKING to him about it? You know, person to person? And leave your attitude at the door.

    If that fails, and it may well do so, go talk to your neighbors. Get about 20 of you. go knock on his door together and POLITELY state that his little toy is driving the entire neighborhood nuts and you'd all really appreciate him turning it off. Bring food. Make it an event. Hell, throw a neighborhood barbecue while you're at it.

    Don't consider the situation an obstruction to be overcome. Instead, consider it a chance to meet your neighbors. Who knows, you might find out they are actual people, with lives and interests and stuff. Who knew?

    And shame on those of you who immediately decided the best course of action was to go on a shadowrun against an old man. Sheesh.. People...

    -T

  34. A classic choice by ydra2 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You could escalate the conflict by using high tech countermeasures which will piss him off and turn his relatives and friends against you, or make peace and have a nice quiet neighborhood. Hmmm, which way to go, never ending warfare on the one hand, or peace and quiet on the other?

    If you go with high tech warefare then you will stimulate the economy by propping up the companies selling sonic noise cancelling systems. And he will of course provide even more stimulation to the economy when he installs an infra-red insect repellent that fries your border plants. And then you have to invest in a cryogenic thermal redirection unit to protect your flowers, after which he will escalate with a plastic dissolving mist spray device, all great news for the high tech neighborhood armament corporations, aka, the militarized neighborhood complex.

    This will be fraught with unforseen complications and collateral damage. Your paper boy will refuse delivery, the water meter reader will not dare enter the property, causing an unpaid bill, and various charges about maliciously killing pets will pop up. You can stay the course until he gives up, but just make sure you understand that you may be liable for accidents caused by radio frequency interference with passing vehicle's electronics.

    Or you could just walk up to the guy and say "Hi neighbor, is there a problem, and if so, lets work it out."

    Naahh, not a chance. Get out the mini trebouchet and carpet bomb the hell out of him with marbles, eggs, and anything else you have handy! Screw the bastard more than he ever thought of screwing you! Worry about the consequences later, after all you don't have to pay for it, or at least not most of it.

    1. Re:A classic choice by Bronster · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Or you could just walk up to the guy and say "Hi neighbor, is there a problem, and if so, lets work it out."

      I'm replying to you out of many who said this, but...

      The problem with this theory is that said neighbour has already invested approx £700 in a device with which to fight this war. A device which, if the war is terminated early will be useless.

      Sounds to me like this investment will make resolution harder. The best time to fix this would have been before lots of money was invested in war-making machines.

      See also: international relations.

  35. Behave like a man by gnasher719 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Try to behave like a man. Knock on his door, and ask him _politely_ why he thinks he needs to keep you and your friends away from your home. And I mean, politely. And alone, not with a gang of youths in the background. And listen to what he says. If he doesn't want to talk to you, try again. This may be the hardest thing you have ever done in your life, showing some respect for the people around you, thinking about the consequences of your actions and behaving like a responsible adult. Maybe think about things that you do that you think are funny when you are drunk, and think what other people would feel about them.

    Now if you are completely without fault, and the reason for your problem _is_ indeed just paranoia, then the easiest and best solution is to just stay away. It doesn't cost you much, he feels better, and you feel better because you have done The Right Thing.

    Some idiots here suggest you should escalate the problem. The problem with that is you don't know where it will end. If you escalate enough, it can end with destroyed lives, his or yours. Think about that.

    1. Re:Behave like a man by Woy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The younguest and most creative within legal limits wins the escalation. Go for it, and be merciless - your neighboor is old enough to know better.

      --
      "If God created us in his own image we have more than reciprocated." - Voltaire
    2. Re:Behave like a man by Absentminded-Artist · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So many people have suggested this, but you are assuming the neighbor is capable of being reasonable. Some people are just jerks. Honest.

      The best suggestions here involve getting younger policemen to come out to witness the aural attack. Don't call dispatch. The submitter needs to drive over to the precinct and talk to the person in charge - whomever is on duty. Explain the technology to them, show them news printouts from NPR, CNN, BBC, etc. Bring a sample sound clip of the "mosquito" on his laptop or iPod. He'll have to convince them in person or they'll just dismiss him as a punk kid/crackpot.

      If I didn't have a house filled with kids and teenagers I might like to use this "warfare" myself on an annoying neighbor myself. My next door neighbor can't seem to experience any music without a sub woofer. In fact, I swear he has a stereo with sub woofer in every room of his house. Of course, he mounts his stereos on the inside walls. Every few months I have to go over there and remind him to keep it down after 10pm. Then I have to knock on his door at 1am, 2am, 3am... He doesn't get it until I've made such a pain of myself I win for a few months. If I asked this guy earnestly why he feels the need to be so loud so late at night he'd tell me to do anatomically awkward things to myself. No. I'm better off just kindly but sternly asking him to lower the music again. He glares at me but he turns the music down.

      Now he's parking his car across two spaces so nobody else can use Guest parking. I don't think he's clueless. I think he just enjoys pissing his neighbors off. It's a power trip. Talking nicely to him only makes him crankier.

      --
      The Splintered Mind - Overcoming
  36. They would but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...they don't know his email address.

  37. Re:OUCH! by Walt+Dismal · · Score: 2, Funny
    What you might have been hearing was the ultrasonic alarm system. Apparently, in some stores and malls, the way the system was improperly installed was that the transducer was left on ALL the time, wired continuously on, and the normal mode of operation was merely to turn the alarm detection portion on at night and off in the morning upon entering. Bad dumb design. When I was in my 30s, some stores were painful to enter because of these. I discovered I could hear tones above 20KHz especially if they were at 110-120 dB levels, which these stupid transducers emitted. I'm over 50 now, and I can hear the mosquito tone easily too. I've always protected my hearing and avoided anything like loud rock concerts, and it seems to have paid off well. No, I'm not making this up or lying either.

    Also, pet stores should not ever have ultrasonic store alarms, because rodents can hear them and the sound is very painful. These will kill gerbils from stress. Disclosure: I am not a gerbil, descended from a gerbil, or use gerbils for unnatural purposes, at least not that often.

  38. Homemade EMP weapon by nobodaddy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    By way of discussion of a general way to disable electronics; not advocating criminal damage or violation of local spectrum use codes;

    Get a shotgun and cartridges (wider the bore*, the better).

    1) Saw the barrel right down to within 2 inches or so of the top of the cartridge (may be illegal in your jurisdiction: check!).

    EXTREME CAUTION - handling unstable explosives
      - the catridge has, on the inner side of the metal cap, a small amount some unstable explosives (google picarates)
    that are designed to go off when the cap is struck. This charge is enough to blow off a finger or maybe a hand.
    It's purpose is to set off the [stable] main powder charge. The powder charge could take your head or leg off.
    No naked flame, sparks, live wires, hard surfaces, loose tools, children, pets, etc etc etc.

    2) pry open the cartridge and ditch the shot (keep the powder charge + wadding).
    3) form an empty tube of cardboard, roughly pencil thin, and wrap enough very-thin (e.g. from a small transformer) copper wire
    around it so it's wrapped diameter fits snugly back into the part-empty cartridge
    NOTE
    you need to wrap so that the full thickness is reached before moving onto the next layer - i.e. not all-the-way-up-the-tube
    -then-back-to-the-start--for-each-layer
    4) get a bar magnet fitting just a bit loosely into your tube
    5) place the coil + magnet into the cartridge. the coil should rest about an inch from the top of the wadding.
    Glue the coil in place.
    6) Inert the bar magnet into the tube and glue the end to the top of the wadding
    7) [needs experimentation or a physics person] maybe fix a load resistor (e.g. pencil lead) across the two free ends of the coil wire

    Now, when the cartridge is fired in the shotgun,
    1) the magnet accelerates through the center of the coil
    2) the coil builds a magnetic field
    3) as the shockwave of the powder charge successively destroys the coil from one end to the other,
    the magnetic field is sucessively compressed into one end of the coil
    4) as the final section of the coil is destroyed, an electromagnetic pulse is emitted
    5) as no metal barrel is there to interfere, the pulse travels in the general direction of the aim of the gun.

    So, when aimed in the general direction of a mosquito alarm, within say a hundred feet (?), it ought to fry it's circuits.
    Perhaps circuits of a bunch of other stuff in the general direction.
    Range is unknown; will be fairly loud (wear ear protectors).

    I haven't tried this myself... Caveat experimentor ..

    * bore (not boar[=pig]) is measure of inner width of barrel. works like this: "12-bore" = width of sphere of 1/12th a pound of lead ; "18-bore" = width of sphere of 1/18th a pound of lead - so smaller bore is bigger. mmkay? 'Guage' probably same thing in USA .. somebody check, quick ..

  39. Re:OUCH! by h4rm0ny · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Perhaps this is a method that the teenagers can use to bring about a legal redress for the harrasment, rather than breaking the device. Bring in the RSPCA or whatever local society covers animal welfare in that area. Animal cruelty might get more press than teenager-cruelty.

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    Aide-toi, le Ciel t'aidera - Jeanne D'Arc.
  40. Since he can't hear the thing... by smackdotcom · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...just conspire with the neighbours one day, and thank him for turning it off. Have the neighbours do the same. He may protest that it's still on, but you simply assure him that you certainly can't hear anything anymore (for drama, cock your head and pause a second when you do this). Now obviously he'll take the thing down and maybe try to fix it and remount it, but continue to ignore it and be pleasant to him. Hopefully he'll get the idea that even if the thing isn't working anymore, it obviously was not worthwhile in the first place, and either pack it away or ship it back for a refund.

    --

    In a world without walls, there is no need for Windows.

  41. Noise Cancelling won't work by dww · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Unless you can EXACTLY duplicate the signal - which you can't - and transmit its inverse from EXACTLY the same point - which you can't - noise cancelling over an area will not work. It works in headphones because the area covered is much smaller than the sound wavelength - that is not so here.

    Imagine throwing two stones into a quiet pond. The two expanding waves will intersect and cancel at some points - but half a wavelength further on they will be in phase and so double. So it will be with the sound - varying from silent to twice as loud depending where you are. As the wavelength will be small, moving your head will be very uncomfortable! You can try the effect if you play the clean MP3 sample you'll find at http://www.star94.com/shows/index.cfm?show=cr&cid= 63 in a small room, where there will be lots of echoes. I'm 60 but I can hear it if I turn the volume up, a high pitched warble that changes in a very disconcerting way when I move my head. (Not everyone over 25 is deaf!)

    Meanwhile - IGNORE the idiots here suggesting various illegal measures. Those WILL get the police involved, but not in the way you want. However, if you could get the authorities to recognise the problem (get the neighbours to all complain to your local councillor as well as the police), you may be able to persuade them to take out an ASBO against the offender preventing him from continuing the nuisance. (For our US friends, an ASBO is an "Anti-Social Behaviour Order", and ignoring it becomes a criminal offence).

  42. Re:Ask Slashdot? - Civil Lawsuit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    This is one of those time a civil lawsuit is probably in order. The illegal device the old person bought is specifically designed to annoy young people by way of emitting ultra-sonic (to old people) sounds that, well, annoy young people. Take lots of pictures of the device on the old person's property, turned on and set to do its deed. Get young witnesses to sign affidavits attesting to the audible and annoying nature of the sound. Then all you have to do is also enter all of the product literature for this particular device into the court record. Since this device is specifically designed for one purpose -- to annoy young people -- and its sound emissions do not stay on the property of the old owner, the old owner is certainly responsible for what it is doing to the young people's enjoyment of their own private property and any adjoining public property.

    Of course, first sending a very gracious but firm certified letter asking for the removal of the nuisance can only help your side look good and reasonable.

  43. Try asking for a younger police officer... by Joce640k · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Seriously, how hard can it be....?

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    No sig today...
  44. Who cares? by MikTheUser · · Score: 2, Funny

    This Slashdot story has more potential for talk about ardware hacking, physics babbling, paranoia nursing and 2AM-James-Bond-action than anything I've read here in months. I don't mind a link to a store in a story this intriguing.

  45. Re:OUCH! by Lemmeoutada+Collecti · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Good idea, actually... just find a friend with a seeing eye dog and have them try to enter the area. That would then involve all kinds of equal access laws, to your benefit. And my cats and dogs hated that sound, even just coming from my headset.

    --

    You can have it fast, accurate, or pretty. Pick any 2.
  46. Re:I call bullshit by berashith · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Yup, My wife is a teacher and had one of these go off in her classroom. When she asked who the phone belonged to, she got a response of " you can hear that ?" . Pretty funny I thought. This led us to play with the tone. On her computer, with crap generic ten year old standard dell speakers, we could both hear the annoying tone. My computer has a much nicer sound card and speaker set up, and while I could not detect a difference in the tone, she was not able to tell if I was playing the tone or not.

    Speaker quality is a must to recreate that sound.

  47. Re:I call bullshit by TBone · · Score: 3, Informative

    Call bullshit if you like, but Cingular sells 7 of them, in increasing frequencies, on their CingularExtras site.

    We run that site at work, so of course, we've tested them all. Most of us back in Operations can hear the first 4, with the exception of 3 guys - 2 in their late 30's, and one in his mid-20's. Those of us that can hear it (8 of us) range from early 20's to late 30's. About half of us can hear the 5th one. A couple of us can at least tell that the 6th one is doing something (including me at 32), and only the mid-20 year old guys can hear the 7th one.

    --

    This space for rent. Call 1-800-STEAK4U

  48. Hat pins work wonders. by TheMCP · · Score: 4, Interesting

    No no, you don't want to do anything he can press charges about, and you shouldn't do anything that isn't a direct step in solving the problem.

    Find the noise device, find its speaker, and stick a hat pin in through the speaker grille to pierce the speaker. Then remove the hat pin and walk away. The hole will cause the speaker to tear itself and will cease making any meaningful volume of noise, and the old coot won't be able to hear the difference. More importantly, he can't really do anything with the police about it because to explain how it's broken he'd have to explain what it's supposed to do in the first place, and then he'd be admitting that your complaints about him were true. He can hardly complain "hey, they broke my illegal noise making machine!"

    1. Re:Hat pins work wonders. by gregmac · · Score: 3, Funny

      More importantly, he can't really do anything with the police about it because to explain how it's broken he'd have to explain what it's supposed to do in the first place, and then he'd be admitting that your complaints about him were true. He can hardly complain "hey, they broke my illegal noise making machine!"

      I remember watching an episode of "Cops" once where a guy called to report a robbery, but was very vague about what was stolen. Eventually, he told them that the guy had stole a few grams of marijuana or something from him, which the officers found quite entertaining, to say the least.

      --
      Speak before you think
  49. Re:I don't get it... by yndrd1984 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    it's a lot easier just to stay out of range.
    Yes. It's usually easier not to stand up for your rights and just take it. But that's the philosophy of slaves and peasants.

    "regardless of their actions" is a bit strong -- someone is hanging around there, aren't you?
    Yes, those horrid teenagers are sitting in their back yard or walking down a public sidewalk, so they deserve what they get![/sarcasm]

    are they perfectly silent and peaceful everytime? not?
    Let's attack an entire group for the actions of a few of them! That's so stupid and immoral I never would have thought of it!

    The mosquito thing is better than the old solutions of spraying cold water or throwing eggs.
    No, it's just harder to get the police to do their duty. If he was doing as you suggest, to people accross the street, he could be prosecuted for assault. By doing it this way he can get away with noise ordinance violations.

  50. ObSimpsons by Dirtside · · Score: 2, Funny
    Only problem is you are now left with a bigger monster then what you started out with
    No problem! When winter rolls around, the gorillas simply freeze to death.

    --
    "Destroy science and religion. Science would re-emerge exactly the same; but not religion." - Penn Jillette, paraphrased
  51. Great idea! by AmazingRuss · · Score: 2, Funny

    Go on over to his house, ring the bell, and when he answers, give him your friendliest smile, then cockpunch him.

    The population is too large to limit yourself to peaceful solutions. Do what you feel!

  52. Re:We don't live in a perfect world by AdamWeeden · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Only if you have the attitude that "If perfection can not be achieved we shouldn't bother striving for it." Another wrong only leads us further away from a peaceful society towards the vigilante style societies of our past. By your model if I consider what your posting as "wrong," I have the right to seek vengence to "right" it. Only by treating others how we WISH to be treated, and not by how they treat us first, is our society going to advance. Will we ever achieve 100% of people doing it? No, but that doesn't mean that it's a dumb thing to do.

    --
    I was quoted out of context in my autobiography...
  53. I suggest: by Angostura · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You modify your day-to-day activities somewhat - explain to him that you aren't trying to harass him., and ask him politely to turn the device off since you find it unpleasant.

    I mean, you have tried to come to a reasonable accommodation, right?

  54. auto-fightback by samjam · · Score: 2, Informative

    Get a mosquito sensor, to detect when it is turned on, use it to power a 12Khz sounder focussed at his windows.

    When he turns of the mosquito noise, the noise he can hear will go off.

    When he turns it on again, he will hear it.

    He will think it has gone wrong; and you know he feels the same pain you do.

    Sam

  55. Fix the problem without him knowing by _LMark · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If he can't hear it, I think the easy fix is to wait until he is gone, then replace the batteries with dead ones, snip the power cord someplace where it won't be immediately obvious, or disable the device in some other way. Since he can't hear it, he'll just assume that it's working and no escalation is necessary.

    --
    'the Internet is right.'
    1. Re:Fix the problem without him knowing by Millenniumman · · Score: 2, Insightful

      He'll probably figure out eventually (when people nearby aren't cringing). Plus, you shouldn't violate his property in such a way, unless absolutely necessary. And, he is still being a jerk. The best way to fix it would be for one of his neighbors to get one that operates a wavelength he can hear, or, if you must, alter his such that it makes a noise he can hear.

      --
      Stupidity is like nuclear power, it can be used for good or evil. And you don't want to get any on you.
  56. Re:Agism by noamsml · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Similarly, since you don't know any young people, it's obviously OK to blast them with borderline-ultrasonic sound *rolls eyes*.

  57. Purple Martins by Fizzlewhiff · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Talk to the guy and tell him his device is hurting your ears. Offer to help him put up a birdhouse for purple martins. Looking out for the birds should keep him busy and out of everyones hair.

    If that doesn't work, a box of 1000 crickets cost about $10. Sneak a few thousand crickets in his flowerbeds and then tell him you read those electric mosquito repellers attract crickets. Crickets can be a little noisy and he might turn off his device hoping the other bugs go away.

    --

    'Same speed C but faster'
  58. A more techological solution by pngwen · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I thought I would deviate a bit and offer a more technological solution.

    Let's examine the facts. He can't hear it, and neither can the police. That means you can't prove that it is making a load sound. However, that goes the other way too. He can't prove that it ISN'T making a sound and cannot even notice when it stops working.

    Now, if you were to destroy the box, he would notice. If you stole it, again he would notice. If you pulled the power out, he would still notice because it wouldn't light up any more. Any cirucit disruption would cause the power indicator to not glow.

    So, here is what you do. You get a 50 ohm resistor, and then sneak over there in the dead of the night with a screwdriver and a soldering iron. These devices are made with ultrasonic transducers. An ultrasonic transducer looks like a small can with holes in the top. It may also use speakers, which are readily identifiable. Simply sever the leads to the transducers/speakers and then solder a 50 ohm resistor in the place of each one. Put the device back together and no one knows that you have tampered with it.

    If you do this, all indicator lights that the device has will still work. Every young person will notice the absence of sound, and the older people will be none the wiser. You get your peace back, and he gets to keep his smugness, everyone wins!

    --
    I am the penguin that codes in the night.
  59. Just direct the sound better! by browman1 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Sounds of this frequency are very easy to block as they're extremely directional.

    If he wants to keep people off his lawn, just stick a cowel over it, so that it directs the sound down. If he has grass on his lawn, that should damp it down enough so that you have to physically be on his lawn to hear it.

  60. Ice Cream Truck by AmericanInKiev · · Score: 2, Funny

    The sane response is to borrow an ice cream truck. The noise is universally accepted - it is irritating beyond description, and will attract kids. I think it is the safe and appropriate answer to your problem.

    AIK

  61. How about a HERF gun? by Stringfellow · · Score: 2, Interesting
  62. SOme people missing part of the issue by zorro6 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This isn't an "anti-mosquito" device. The device in question is used to disperse loiterers and in general make an area uncomfortable for human beings. It is called a mosquito because it makes a high pitched noise, like a mosquito, that is very annoying and drives people away. It is used outside of 7-11s and the like to keep the riff-raff from hanging around. It has no other purpose except to annoy people. That may make a difference to the answer here but a lot of folks didn't actually read the relevant info (nothing new for /.).