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Gaming Memories Helping to Heal Katrina Wounds

waterlogged writes "Lara Crigger writes a compelling account of the effects of hurricane Katrina on a person's sense of videogames in The Escapist. From the article: 'Hurricanes destroy more than just property; they destroy the sense of property, as well. They smash that universal belief that objects intrinsically carry some emotional gravity or weight. Acts of destruction remind us that physical substances are only equal to the exact sum of their parts: Plastic and cotton, metal or wood. What's left over is a painful buoyancy, an unbearable absence of feeling; you mourn not just your lost PS2 games or your Xbox controllers but also the fact that these once precious things have been proven completely meaningless. Even if they do remain intact after the storm (like the Samus poster), the only entity that really survives is you.'"

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  1. Being illiterate is fun by DoctaWatson · · Score: 4, Funny

    Because, in my mind, games can heal katana wounds.

    1. Re:Being illiterate is fun by mr1337 · · Score: 1

      Easier said when you weren't affected by Katrina. I was. It sucked. But at least I saved my Xbox *grin*

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    2. Re:Being illiterate is fun by XL70E3 · · Score: 0

      Games can also heal "Daikatana" wounds.. Ok, that was too easy.. I know, i know i have no excuses...

    3. Re:Being illiterate is fun by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      "Easier said when you weren't affected by Katrina. I was. It sucked. But at least I saved my Xbox *grin*"

      Yup..it sucked...and seems weird, here we are almost a year later, and still so far away from having a *normal* life again.

      I was lucky...I was renting the top floor of a house at the edge of Lakeview...got 7ft. of water, but, I only lost a car and motorcycle. My stuff was spared the flood and wind damage, and somehow, I didn't get looted. I got everything moved out safely, but, have been living in friends houses, hotels and finally a small one bedroom apt. on the northshore.

      I'd LOVE to get back to NOLA...but, with all the problems there...crime (hope they keep the nat'l guard there for awhile longer), and weak infrastructure, and just the amount of abandoned, ghost town areas...lack of fed dollars coming in..lack of standards even set for rebuilding....

      I just don't see myself going back for awhile if ever...gonna hang outside a year and see what they can get done.

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  2. Awakening by jbbernar · · Score: 3, Insightful

    All this is a good thing. Eventually you'll realize that even you don't exist. That'll be even better.

    1. Re:Awakening by JavaBrain · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Mod parent up -- this is pure Buddhism and also appropriate to the thread -- the whole discussion really belongs in a Buddhist forum rather than videogaming. The idea that "things" have a fundamental value (as opposed to assigned values) with regard to mind, is what this addressing. The "self" (which the parent points out isn't real) is another created object of the mind. Self is really handy for locational reference (in time and space) and lets you navigate around your world, come up with schedules, etc. -- however it can be muted, so it's not unavoidable, and thus not fundamental -- it's created by mind.

    2. Re:Awakening by Lazerf4rt · · Score: 1
      Eventually you'll realize that even you don't exist.

      That's a pretty ballsy thing to come out and post directly, even if it's true. Problem is, there are a million ways to interpret that statement and some of those interpretations are pretty fucked up/nonsensical. I like this subject though, so here's one interpretation that I think makes sense:

      You do exist, of course. What doesn't exist is the idea of you. To put it another way, your identity doesn't exist. This identity begins when you're born and your parents give you a name. They talk about you and call you by this name. You grow up, get a driver's license and credit cards with this name on it. You develop a life story, really start to identify with this name and you want people to think good things when they hear it. (And you play Metroid and Mario Kart, I guess...) Nonetheless, this identity was made up, and given to you. When you get down to it, there's no truth to it. So, that's what it means to say, "You (your identity) don't (doesn't) exist".

      So what does exist then? You are right here in the flesh. That's you and it doesn't matter what you name it. That's how the phrases "you exist" and "you don't exist" can both be true (one is concrete, the other's a concept). Not only that, but your flesh needs the atmosphere around it, and the atmosphere needs the earth, and the earth needs the sun, etc. Therefore, those are all "you" too. This is where the phrase "All is one" comes from. Ta daa, now you're enlightened.

    3. Re:Awakening by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No.

    4. Re:Awakening by Das+Modell · · Score: 1
      Eventually you'll realize that even you don't exist.

      Descartes.

      kthnxbai
  3. XBox? by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Funny

    If they had any of the original controllers they could have climbed on them and floated to safety.

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    1. Re:XBox? by smbarbour · · Score: 1

      You're assuming that cinder blocks float... They don't.

      Good joke though.

  4. Katrina's influence on gaming by amightywind · · Score: 4, Interesting
    you mourn not just your lost PS2 games or your Xbox controllers but also the fact that these once precious things have been proven completely meaningless.

    Deep. It makes me think that the lawless, gangbanging aftermath of Katrina in New orleans would make a compelling Grand Theft Auto scenario.

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    1. Re:Katrina's influence on gaming by houstonbofh · · Score: 1

      I would buy GTA New Orleans... The entire car bike boat thing would be taken to a new level. Flying the chopper you could rescue or strafe mobs... And instead of "Hot Coffee," "Hot Chocolate!"

  5. OMG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I'm almost getting nostalgic for a Jon Katz article in this post Columbine^WKatrina world.

    1. Re:OMG by tsa · · Score: 1

      Jon Katz! That's a name I haven't heard in a long time. Is he still alive?

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    2. Re:OMG by Kingfox · · Score: 1

      Yup, he's stopped writing "tech" and instead started writing about dogs. Read more on Wikipedia.

    3. Re:OMG by tsa · · Score: 1

      Thanks! I hope he's better at writing about dogs than tech...

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  6. What the !@#!?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For fuck's sake, get some priorities!!!

    1. Re:What the !@#!?? by induhvidual · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Navel gazing has descended to new depths of stupidity... just incredible. What the hell is this crap doing on /.?

    2. Re:What the !@#!?? by kfg · · Score: 1

      Oh, give her a break, our little girl is growing up

      . . .you mourn not just your lost PS2 games or your Xbox controllers but also the fact that these once precious things have been proven completely meaningless.

      But she's not quite there yet.

      What the hell is this crap doing on /.?

      The current crop of geeks think that stuff is the stuff that matters.

      Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, but lay up treasures of knowledge so that even though moths and rust doth corrupt and theives break in steal. . .you can just make yourself new stuff.

      KFG

    3. Re:What the !@#!?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Navel gazing has descended to new depths of stupidity

      How could anyone think that was offtopic?

  7. Some damn guru tried to tell me that once by spun · · Score: 4, Funny

    So I stomped on his foot.

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  8. I agree 100% by TheOtherChimeraTwin · · Score: 1
    Acts of destruction remind us that physical substances are only equal to the exact sum of their parts: Plastic and cotton, metal or wood. What's left over is a painful buoyancy, an unbearable absence of feeling; you mourn not just your lost PS2 games or your Xbox controllers but also the fact that these once precious things have been proven completely meaningless.

    And that is why I play NetHack.

    1. Re:I agree 100% by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuck NetHack.

  9. Imagine that.... by Almahtar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    so it's a new thing that deriving your life's worth from your material possessions leaves you lacking in the long run? Don't feel sorry for these people whose stuff was destroyed: at least they have a chance at gaining perspective. Feel sorry for the guy that's still got his XBox and wastes all day, every day on it, or the guy that has a bright shiny car but no sense of personal worth.

    1. Re:Imagine that.... by chmod+a+x+mojo · · Score: 1

      HEY I have a bright shiny car, i don't needs no stinking personel worth.

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    2. Re:Imagine that.... by Almahtar · · Score: 1

      I stand corrected. Want to trade my personal worth for your shiny car? I'll throw in a dusty Oldsmobile...

    3. Re:Imagine that.... by mulhollandj · · Score: 1

      Well said. I also feel sorry for all those people living off of the government and becoming slaves to the government. Try reading http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/790.html

    4. Re:Imagine that.... by chmod+a+x+mojo · · Score: 1

      Nah, keep your dusty olds. You can go buy a shiny new Hotwheels car in any store....

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    5. Re:Imagine that.... by guardiangod · · Score: 2

      Maybe you should read this following article...


      Dugald Christie died on a years-long mission of conscience drove him for years
      He bicycled to work. He lived in a rented basement suite. He was a transplanted Scot who eschewed scotch but drank hot water with cream and sugar. A devout Anglican, he kept his offices in a church, arrived for work at daybreak and left, usually, 12 to 14 hours later. He could have made lots of money in his lifetime. He chose instead to make a difference.

      Dugald Christie was a lawyer, but he was not like most lawyers. He was not like most people. A colleague called him "the Mother Teresa of the bar." When the Trial Lawyers Association of B.C. honoured him for his life's work in March, he was introduced as being "every lawyer's conscience of their professional obligations" -- this high praise earned in a profession often accused of not having a conscience.

      He died Monday at the age of 65. He was struck and killed by a minivan on the Trans-Canada Highway near Sault Ste. Marie, Ont.

      He was riding his bicycle, and it was his conscience that had brought him to that fateful place.

      He was cycling across Canada to raise awareness about the average person's lack of access to the judicial system. Christie called it the ABCs of true justice -- affordable, brief and comprehensible -- and he was gathering signatures along the way on a petition he was going to present to Prime Minister Stephen Harper. His ultimate destination was St. John's, N.L., where he was to address the Canadian Bar Association.

      Christie was the founder and director of the Western Canada Society to Access Justice.

      Its work is all done pro bono -- the waiving of legal fees as a charitable act -- and it was Christie's job, or rather his cause in life, to get top-flight lawyers to represent needy clients.

      He did this through sheer hard work. Christie was an indefatigable and constant presence -- as good consciences are -- and he was always working the phones to get donations or a lawyer's help.

      He knew almost every lawyer in town, and his calls enjoyed a sort of fame among the legal community. With a trace of his Scottish brogue, he would open, simply, with "Dugald Christie here," and the lawyer on the other end of the line knew it was time to pony up.

      His work paid off. By the time of his death, Christie and the society had 61 clinics from Campbell River to Winnipeg and more than 400 lawyers donating their services. He made it into the largest legal aid service in the province.

      "I have tremendous respect for his ability and commitment to pro bono work," said B.C. Supreme Court Chief Justice Donald Brenner, "and I know that he had a goal that his clinics would be available to 95 per cent of all British Columbians. I think he achieved that this spring."

      Brenner was a fan of Christie's.

      "I have in the past described him as not everyone's cup of tea, but he was an achiever, a man who didn't just talk about doing good, but worked hard to do good, and I have great respect for him. I use that old journalistic saying to describe him: He comforted the afflicted and afflicted the comfortable."

      More often than not, he afflicted those in the law itself.

      n 2003, he filed a formal complaint against B.C. Court of Appeal Justice Mary Southin, accusing her of encouraging people to defy smoking laws while continuing to sit in judgment of others.

      He maintained Southin had "brought the administration of justice into disrepute" by refusing to stop smoking in her office, despite a 1998 Workers' Compensation ban against smoking in the workplace. He filed the complaint after it was reported then attorney-general Geoff Plant had okayed a $19,000 ventilation system for her office at the Vancouver Law Courts.

      But it was Christie's prolonged fight against the province's move in

    6. Re:Imagine that.... by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      "Well said. I also feel sorry for all those people living off of the government and becoming slaves to the government."

      Exactly!!! I've been reading articles about the scads of people that have moved from the public housing, a virtual dead end for life in pre-K NOLA...they are seeing what real education is, and what a life apart from thugs and dope dealers is like.

      For the life of me...I cannot fathom why some are making such noise to rebuild those blights on the city...why would they want the projects back??? Lord, if you looked at a map of the city pre-K, almost ALL the murders were tightly located around the projects around the city. Those things were implements of killing a person's hope for a better life...a monument to a dead end life.

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  10. Wake up, Neo by mad_psych0 · · Score: 1

    Sounds like someone took the red pill...

  11. Relevant Quote by KingoftheAges · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "It's only after you've lost everything," Tyler says, "that you're free to do anything."

    1. Re:Relevant Quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      "The things that you own end up owning you."

    2. Re:Relevant Quote by sTalking_Goat · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken."

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      My days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle...

    3. Re:Relevant Quote by novalogic · · Score: 1

      "It's only after you've lost everything," Tyler says, "that you're free to do anything."

      Yup, anyone who's played Eve Online and lost a full set of +3/4 implants knows this is true...

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    4. Re:Relevant Quote by Lissajous · · Score: 1

      "The games you pwn end up pwning j00"

  12. Games are merely copies of bits. by Tackhead · · Score: 3, Insightful
    > Hurricanes destroy more than just property; they destroy the sense of property, as well. They smash that universal belief that objects intrinsically carry some emotional gravity or weight. Acts of destruction remind us that physical substances are only equal to the exact sum of their parts: Plastic and cotton, metal or wood.

    Which is why if a hurricane comes and crushes my console and sweeps away my games, I've lost nothing. The atoms don't matter -- I can buy another plastic console, and buy another piece of plastic and aluminum with some bits on it. I've lost nothing. The long numbers (a DVD with a game on it is just a multibillion-digit-long number) that, when read into a properly-configured piece of plastic and ceramic (say, an XBox or PS2), come to life as video games are of no consequence because they're easily replaced.

    But if a hurricane sweeps away my only copies (and my not-remote-enough backups) of the somewhat shorter numbers (million-digit-long strings of bits) that represent my digital photo archive, and then we can talk about pain.

    All numbers are unequal. But some are more unequal than others.

    1. Re:Games are merely copies of bits. by hackwrench · · Score: 1

      Except when you discover that they've stopped making the game and no one's selling their used copies.

      Things like Working Designs closing up shop is another issue. They were also in the business of making their games rare.

    2. Re:Games are merely copies of bits. by CurbyKirby · · Score: 1

      Definitely, the only part of a computer I care about is the hard drive (or whatever other storage medium it uses). Every(tangible)thing's replaceable but data is not. Not only that, it is literally priceless. You can insure an heirloom or a computer against damage or loss, but what's a $1000 check compared to years of memories and work?

      Isn't it strange that pirating a song costs the record industry thousands of dollars in lost sales, yet a file sitting on your hard drive cannot be insured for a single penny?

      Tangentially, this is why I take lots of screenshots in games I play. Taking a screenshot of a memorable moment is like taking a photo of a beautiful scene on vacation: it provides a springboard for reminiscence and all sorts of mushy feelings years afterwards. A game usually plays the same way for everyone, but recording the experience makes it personal.

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  13. Those aren't wounds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's called a reality check. Believe it or not, stuff doesn't last. Not even big stuff. Life goes on...it's good to be reminded of what's important; we all need that from time to time.

  14. Katrina destroyed PS2 and Xbox consoles by Kohath · · Score: 4, Funny

    Why did Katrina destroy PS2 and Xbox consoles? We know why.

    It's because George Bush doesn't care about black game consoles.

    1. Re:Katrina destroyed PS2 and Xbox consoles by sTalking_Goat · · Score: 1

      roflmao! You made my day.

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    2. Re:Katrina destroyed PS2 and Xbox consoles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kanye West was on TV as I read this. Absolutely Hilarious! Pure gold!

  15. wow by crabpeople · · Score: 5, Interesting
    This article is so melodramatic its insane.

    Hanging close to a window now smashed in by Katrina is a limited edition poster of Samus Aran, circa Super Metroid era. Gleaming in her Varia Suit, she kneels among sand and rocks, with her smoking arm cannon raised upward and the lonely Zebian desert reflected in her visor. Only 2,000 were ever made, and he has #1,968. But it is more than some collector's item; this poster is a tintype of the first girl to ever steal his heart. Like every man (and most women) of his generation, part of him still loves Samus Aran. She is his adolescence, his coming-of-age, a symbol of permanence and power and invincibility. What would it mean if she had been destroyed?

    That people still live here, that some of the evacuees have returned to their homes, that must mean something. But what home can stand firm on a foundation of mold and tears?

    The whole article is like that!!!
    But as we clean, I can't help but feel something indistinct and odd has transpired. I notice he avoids looking Samus' direction. Even as he carefully packs away the poster to be sent by mail to our apartment up north, he does not look too closely at her, and he does not idle in his task. Briefly, I wonder if he might blame her somehow for surviving the hurricane. Or, in light of his subtle detachment, if she had really survived at all.

    wow. seriously someone should tell this chick that not everything is an emotional rollercoaster. I get it, hes stoic marble man and your the sensitive girl that brings out his soft side, while probing his mysterious ways. just wow. This puts some of those homoerotic slashdot trolls to shame.

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    1. Re:wow by jaseparlo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Do you have any clue? It's called literature, pick up a book one day and you might discover it. When you are writing to express an emotion you felt strongly at a time and you want your reader to relate, you use emotive language. This is a descriptive passage, about 'life' (you may have heard of it), not yet another review of yet another Madden '0, of course it's gonna seem emotional.

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    2. Re:wow by 0xA · · Score: 1

      I don't exactly disagree with you. The language is appropriate to convey a certain depth of feeling however assigning that depth feeling to the friggin poster is pushing it a bit don't you think? The writer does that consistently throughout the article, the whole thing is just over the top.

    3. Re:wow by pilkul · · Score: 3, Funny

      You must feel shivers of aesthetic bliss when you read Livejournal.

    4. Re:wow by jaseparlo · · Score: 1

      Dunno, I could be touchy cos I lost a bunch of rare Pink Floyd and Iron Maiden posters when my parents' house burnt down in the six months between me moving out and going back to get the rest of my stuff :)

      Seriously though, I think the poster was just a focus for all the emotion the guy was feeling - the writer was expecting him to be as excited about the poster as he had been when he was a pimply teenager and first bought it, but the guy himself saw the poster and realised how much they had lost, both property and the whole city of New Orleans.

      When you suffer extreme loss you often find focus in the stupid little things, because accepting the totality of everything you feel is too much. There's probably a word for it...

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    5. Re:wow by localroger · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Been to New Orleans since Katrina? The place will have that effect on you. Even now, almost a year after the storm, it still does. Everyone who comes here and visits Lakeview or Chalmette says the same thing -- the scale of what happened here can't be conveyed by photography or video or even writing. You come thinking you know what to expect because you've seen the pictures and the TV reports and it still just knocks you down.

      This is just one more person who tried to convey what it was like, and ultimately as we all do failed.

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    6. Re:wow by pilkul · · Score: 1

      Replying again to elaborate on my throwaway comment, that's a silly view of what makes good literature. Many great authors are extremely cold and clinical: for example, Franz Kafka or J.M. Coetzee. And even those who strive for strong feelings often achieve it through understated and superficially unemotional language --- Kazuo Ishiguro's The Remains of the Day is a good example. Lyricism is neither necessary nor sufficient to make good literature.

    7. Re:wow by jaseparlo · · Score: 1

      Hehe well yeah, fair comment about Livejournal :P The article isn't 'good' literature, just an editorial article on a gamer site. Doesn't mean it doesn't use literary devices and techniques though. I felt the GPP was over the top in criticising it that way. It may have been laid on a little thick but I guess it takes some effort to get gamers to step out of their shells and realise that there is a life going on out there.

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    8. Re:wow by noidentity · · Score: 1

      I'll take a materialist over an emotionalist any day. I mean fuck, get over your goddamn self (the author of the article)! You may have lost most of your material possessions, but apparently those were the least of your attachments.

      (yes, I encounter too many people who go on and fucking on about some trivial event)

    9. Re:wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When you suffer extreme loss you often find focus in the stupid little things, because accepting the totality of everything you feel is too much. There's probably a word for it...

      "Coping".

    10. Re:wow by monoqlith · · Score: 1

      There's a difference between 'emotive' and 'overwrought'. The fact that the reader finds it so transparently sentimental probably means the writer wasn't confident enough to stick to more subtle language and description.

    11. Re:wow by monoqlith · · Score: 1

      Oh yeah, and I agree with the grandparent poster. Taking mundane objects and making them interesting or emotionally provocative is very difficult. When done incorrectly(which is most of the time), it makes me cringe. This happens frequently on NPR, when authors read excerpts of their own work. I find I'm emotionally indifferent most of the time, if not annoyed. It doesn't help that the authors always take on this soft, lingering, pretentious tone of voice whenever they read their own work, as if to artificially elevate it to the level of 'art.' There's definitely an overproduction right now of this kind of writing. It's fluff.

    12. Re:wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Been to Falludjah lately?
      O wait, that's only subhumans...

    13. Re:wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      bingo!

  16. Where have I heard that before? by spun · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "Freedom's just another word for nothin' left to lose"
    --Janis Joplin

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  17. Re:Wow... by coaxeus · · Score: 0

    Agreed.

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  18. just games? by noneme · · Score: 1

    Consider me insensitive, but how does it take a hurricane to realize this? You can get the same effect from having an SNES cartridge battery die, losing a memory card, or looking at a 200 hour FF7 game save years later and thinking about that lost excessive time. At least that's how I reacted to all of the above. I also don't understand how this is a specific to games. Any person who has survived a catastrophe (hurricane, fire, car collision) can realize the insignificance of material posessions when they walk out of wreckage with the important stuff, like their life and health.

    1. Re:just games? by geekoid · · Score: 1

      it is only signifigant to games for GAMERS.
      It would be signifigant to golf to Golfers.
      Since this is slashdot, then the games angle is probably more on target.

      And having everything gone is a lot different then the inconvience of needing a battery.

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    2. Re:just games? by noneme · · Score: 1
      to rebroaden the scope:
      it is only significant to owners of possessions.

      anyone else would be a subscriber to philsophies of certain buddhist or taoist sects and probably wouldn't have possessions to begin with. Besides, you can buy a new XBox, it is a lot more difficult (and expensive) to duplicate the physical terrain of a destroyed golf course.

      And having everything gone is a lot different then the inconvience of needing a battery.
      I suppose I should have verbalized the concept more clearly:
      ... They smash that universal belief that objects intrinsically carry some emotional gravity or weight.
      As the article suggests that the physical destruction of a piece of media reminds us that the media doesn't really possess "emotional gravity or weight", I am suggesting that the irrevercible loss of the media's local data can achieve the same effect.
    3. Re:just games? by geekoid · · Score: 1

      In my experience, people get more upset of the loss of the device then the data.
      Even though the data is more valuable.

      Even people of those sect you mentioned would learn this lesson if there temple was suddenly destroyed, and had not experienced similiar destruction before.
      People get bound to things, even when they know better, or try not to.

      Games are such a part of some peoples life that complete removal of the devices is shocking.

      I was thinking golfing clubs, more then a course.

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    4. Re:just games? by Sage+Gaspar · · Score: 1

      Because it's written in an online gaming mag for gamers? It's also sort of a novelty because there are still many who would not attribute that kind of significance to games.

      People are funny. I could hear about a suicide or sudden death on the television and experience a sort of distant sympathy, but with the internet age when they have a significant online presence the death becomes magnified for me. Things like reading transcripts of their last conversations on IRC, looking at the profiles on their still-active accounts, seeing what they've written about themselves on Facebook and reading the messages left by grieving friends on their wall... because that's safe, familiar territory to me, they hit closer to home.

    5. Re:just games? by noneme · · Score: 1

      You make good observations. A lot of older generations may not understand such experiences with a games not having played them a lot or while growing up, so there is a novelty.

      I can relate to what you are describing about witnessing the remenants of a life from their activity on the internet. There is a certain black irony to that as well, given the topic of the article... in the opposite case where piece of media/game/account/data/etc survives and a person does not, that media gains an "emotional gravity or weight" instead of losing it.

  19. Uhm, duh? by dapho · · Score: 1

    I'd think any geek would have rationalized this. Why is it on Slashdot?

    1. Re:Uhm, duh? by DaveCBio · · Score: 1

      Good question, not to mention the fact that it's an 9 month old piece. Some days I wonder how stories get on this site. So much crap and reposts get posted and yet seemingly relevant stories that I and other friends have submitted over the years get turned down on a regular basis. Maybe if I was a paying subscriber it would increase my chances?

  20. News for Nerds: Stuff Doesn't Matter by Eberlin · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Wait, have we gone so far into materialism that this becomes a wake-up call -- holy crap, my copy of Halo 2 doesn't matter in the long run!

    Sure, I guess we all need that reminder one way or another and great disasters have a way of giving us that reality check...but Katrina linking us to reality through ownership of Video Games? How frickin shallow are we?

    Just to get it over with, here are a few things to remember:

    Material posessions don't mean jack in the long run.

    Your SAT score doesn't mean jack in the long run either.

    Your high score in Tetris, your Super Mario Brothers speed run, and your 100pct completion rating for San Andreas...all insignificant. ...but if you vote for CowboyNeal in the slashdot polls -- that, my friend, can lead to the cure for cancer. Keep that in mind next time you click on the other options.

    Really, when it comes down to it, stuff doesn't matter much at all.

    1. Re:News for Nerds: Stuff Doesn't Matter by TrekkieGod · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What matters to you isn't the same thing that matters to me and vice-versa. To answer your question, we're really 'frickin' shallow.

      The point is, we seek to be happy and avoid pain. What matters to us is whatever can help us seek happiness and avoid pain. To that end, owning video game consoles can bring you happiness, but they can't offset the pain brought on by katrina. It's as simple as that. Material posessions matter very much in the long run if you enjoy having them. Your SAT score matters if getting into that great university would make you happy. Getting high scores in video games certainly do make people giddy. Curing cancer means absolutely nothing to people who do not have cancer or know someone with cancer...except that you'll get that warm fuzzy feeling that if you end up getting it in the future, it won't be a big deal. It's one less thing to fear and, truthfully, that's the only reason people care.

      And there's nothing wrong with that.

      --

      Warning: Opinions known to be heavily biased.

    2. Re:News for Nerds: Stuff Doesn't Matter by Sage+Gaspar · · Score: 1

      What does matter? Why does it matter? If you figure out the answer for yourself, does it become universal truth?

      Is your anwer a reflection of the society that you are a part of? If you were born in 2000 BC or spent your entire life wanting for material necessities in the middle of some third-world country, would your answer be the same?

      Given a sufficiently long "long run," humanity has become extinct and the earth has covered up all trace of our ever having existed. Unless the answer is preserving the species or you have devout religiosity, you're throwing out some sort of touchy-feely mumbo-jumbo to excuse your own societally influenced hedonism.

    3. Re:News for Nerds: Stuff Doesn't Matter by alveraan · · Score: 1

      You're mostly right, but there are exceptions. Take musical instruments for example. You can get really really attached to instruments and it's different that a computer or xbox. You can buy another xbox, but you'll never find that special guitar again. Sure, you'll get over it, but it's gonna be hard.

      Another example is photos. A friend of mine lost almost all her childhood photos when her parents house burned down. It's about the only thing from that house she really misses - even today.

      Some _things_ do matter.

      --
      Everytime you kill a kitten, god masturbates.
    4. Re:News for Nerds: Stuff Doesn't Matter by Das+Modell · · Score: 1

      Or, you know, people just like playing their collection of video games or playing with their limited edition Metroid dolls, and it's as simple as that?

  21. If you're lucky. by Inspector · · Score: 1

    the only entity that really survives is you.

    --
    Michael Gentili
    - He's just some guy, you know?
  22. Hmm by jb.hl.com · · Score: 1

    What's left over is a painful buoyancy, an unbearable absence of feeling; you mourn not just your lost PS2 games or your Xbox controllers but also the fact that these once precious things have been proven completely meaningless. Even if they do remain intact after the storm (like the Samus poster), the only entity that really survives is you.

    I dunno why, but I get this same sort of feeling thinking about nuclear war, or just any war really...thinking that the auto shops, the supermarket offers, the little gadgets etc...all completely useless to anyone in the absence of cars, crops and electricity. Just a weird thought I have sometimes...depressing, maybe, but that's just me :)

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  23. It's like the Last Starfighter by CrazyJim1 · · Score: 1

    You get really good at a video game, then an alien coallition recruits you as a pilot. Then its life or death, the video game mattered, but no longer. Sounds strange? Metaphorically, it's not too far off my life.

    1. Re:It's like the Last Starfighter by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      Look, everyone, CrazyJim is back in the games section... AND AS CRAZY AS EVER!

      Hey Jim, how's the comic book with the rocket-katanas coming along? I want to read it so bad ever since I heard the idea! He can use the katana to fly like Superman, or shoot them like missiles! OMG!

  24. I mean... by Wind_Walker · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    1. Re:I mean... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Like, I know and it's so sad and stuff? You know, like, sometimes I think that is just, you know, a symbol, like, of how stuff happens and then you cry because, like, you realize you're 14 and think you just have, like, the worst life, you know? Then when you're 25 and look back on your video blog, like, you just have to say to yourself, WTF OMG STFU, you know?

  25. Nah... by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    We'd up the tempo, to make sure it wasn't us again. But I only live here folks, and I'm only one person. I'm not saying what I would or could do, just reporting what I think is an extrapolation of the attitudes around me.

  26. The line about "only the sum of parts" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is malarky, seemingly designed to give a patina of legitimacy to this article. Consider, a screw and a nut certainly have independent existences, but they're much more useful together.

  27. You guys are missing the lesson in this by TrekCycling · · Score: 2, Funny

    Buy TWO copies of all your favorite games and store the second copy "off-site" in case of a natural disaster. This goes for memory cards as well.

    Then once you get your life back together from the hurricane you can pick up where you left off in God of War.

    Backups. The lesson is backups.

    1. Re:You guys are missing the lesson in this by tehcyder · · Score: 1
      The lesson is backups.
      It's good to see someone cutting through the emotional bullshit and getting to the real heart of things.

      Natural disasters are just God's way of reminding you to take backups.

      --
      To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
    2. Re:You guys are missing the lesson in this by TrekCycling · · Score: 1

      Exactly. That's the lesson of Katrina. All of us gamers are living life in a fantasy land where at any moment the Pokemon we've collected, the levels we've unlocked, the experience points we've earned, could all be whiped out....

      along with our house, possibly our family and our community...

      But back to the main point. Yes. Think of all the time spent gathering those experience points, beating that really tough boss and ask yourself if you can go through the emotional pain of starting over again.

  28. ph by u-238 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    isn't that the whole point? having a good time with friends?

    i remember realizing this some time during my ROM collecting phase -- it didn't take long before i realized that it wasn't the gameplay i craved but the memories of that time of life (childhood).

    tell me how one's fond recollections of videogame playing--with brothers, sisters, neighborhood friends--are different from your grandparent's stories of fort building and crayfish hunting?

    1. Re:ph by Kesch · · Score: 1
      tell me how one's fond recollections of videogame playing--with brothers, sisters, neighborhood friends--are different from your grandparent's stories of fort building and crayfish hunting?


      My grandparents had to do it in foot deep snow, uphill, both ways.
      --
      If this signature is witty enough, maybe somebody will like me.
    2. Re:ph by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My grandparents had to do it in foot deep snow, uphill, both ways.

      Your grandparents did it both ways? Ewww

    3. Re:ph by aquatone282 · · Score: 1

      tell me how one's fond recollections of videogame playing--with brothers, sisters, neighborhood friends--are different from your grandparent's stories of fort building and crayfish hunting?

      Sunlight. Fresh air. Exercise. Being a part of the natural world around you and learning how to live in it.

      That's how.

      --
      What?
    4. Re:ph by exp(pi*sqrt(163)) · · Score: 1
      Thank you for saying that.

      I'm amazed by how many puritans there are on /. for whom game playing is a dirty little sin that "doesn't matter".

      --
      Doesn't it make you feel good to know that our freedoms are protected by politicans, lawyers and journalists.
  29. Reads like an irritating Livejournal post. by Rotten168 · · Score: 1

    You know, written by some "artsy" chick who takes pictures of her feet.

  30. Re:enlightened by geekoid · · Score: 1

    The parent post was a quote from Bill Hicks.

    You really should credit your quotes.

    --
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  31. -1, Redundant by I+Like+Pudding · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So, video games aren't really that important when your personal Maslow Hierarchy goes Jenga.

    Big. Fucking. Revelation.

    Boy, I was drowning this one time and I sure needed air and not video games. Makes you think LOL!!111

  32. Gambling your life by Lord+Satri · · Score: 1

    "- You can do whatever you want!
    - It's been so long since I heard those words, I don't know what they mean
    anymore. [...] Gambling no longer have any appeal for me, when every day
    is a risk, cards and dices are not quite as interesting as they used to be"

      - Vir & Londo, B5:"Darkness Ascending"

    I'd like to see more of these articles on slashdot. Linux don't matter by itself, Macs don't matter themselves, Games don't matter by themselves. It's the ideals and values behind the actual physical incarnation that matters. The voyage is as important as the destination. Nothing is really yours, property is a convenient human invention. This is your life, ending one second at a time. What do you want? Who are you? And why do I keep reading slashdot many times a day? ... :-)

  33. Re:Wow... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yea, like every other country hasn't done the same thing? Shut up and get over it - you're alive during the United States' ride at the top. Most countries have had theirs atleast once, and they all fall, the only difference? The U.S.A. will go out with a bigger bang than the rest.

    Psh, "Yanks", what are you from the 1860's?

  34. PS: by I+Like+Pudding · · Score: 1

    X-box is HUGE!!! LORFL! Insightful!

  35. Wow, you're fucked up in the head by Moraelin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    First the disclaimer: I'm not an American, I'm not in the USA, I don't even have relatives there or anything. And I'll be the first to bitch and moan about contemporary American politics and about the occasional chest-thumping redneck. But this... you, sir, are a fucking lunatic and it's people like you that are the problem with the world today. Seriously.

    For starters even if you make everyone who voted for Bush personally responsible for all of Bush's idiocies, only slightly less than half the votes went to Bush. So what's your problem with the other half, then? You're willing to dance on someone's grave just because they were born in the USA, or what? How fucked up is that?

    And at that point, how does it make you any better? If you're willing to cheer for destruction and suffering inflicted upon civilians, just because they're in the USA, then how does that make you better than those who wish the same on people just because they're born in Iraq? No, seriously. What moral high ground can you claim, from which to look down on them, when you're as big an idiot as the most retarded bible-thumping rednecks they have?

    And I'm serious about the "people like you" part. The whole vicious circle of inflicting nasty stuff upon each other is based on people taking the whole Us-Vs-Them thing too seriously. People willing to wish you a flaming death just because of where you were born or who your grandparents were. It's _precisely_ such people who thought it would be a great idea to fly an airplane full of innocent civilians into a building full of innocent civilians, or anything of that calibre. All the way back into ancient history, when an army entered a city and proceeded to rape, kill and enslave just to show them who's the new boss, it was just that mentality that was the problem. That it's "Us" vs "Them". That if you happen to be born in Carthage, you're personally to blame for what Hannibal did to Rome. Or that if you were living in Jerusalem, you're personally responsible for the Muslims' being in command there. (See the Crusaders slaughtering a ridiculous number of the very Christians they were supposedly trying to save.)

    And you're willing to cheer for... what? For Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder, i.e., for permanent psychological damage? Because under the whole bullshit philosophy angle in the summary, that's the cruel reality. It's not that those people had a flash of Nirvana-like enlightenment that material possessions are worthless. It's that those people had the trauma of seeing everything they owned turned into junk or washed away, and went through some hell just keeping onto their very life. A lot of them are probably _affraid_ to get attached to any item any more, and are looking forward to a life spent in fight-or-flight mode, and of waking up in cold sweat after a nightmare about it.

    PTSD is a bitch. Your brain gets switched into a semi-permanent mode of trying to learn how you should have dealt with the horror where you actually had no control and no way out. There is nothing to learn, but that's the only thing that would naturally end it. So you're stuck re-living it over and over again. And yet avoiding anything that reminds you of it. So, yes, a lot of them will be stuck fearing the very notion of ever getting attached to something or someone ever again. It's not just their gaming life that's taken a change, it's that their whole _Real_ _Life_ is fucked up now. Including any hope of a meaningful family life, social life, etc.

    Yes, it's not fun for the people who got it in Iraq. (Both American soldiers and Iraqis.) But it's not fun for the poor buggers that got it from Katrina.

    And frankly, I find it distasteful to use someone's hell to make some personal political point with. That goes for both you, and the pseudo-philosophy in TFA. Those people didn't reach some Zen enlightenment, they were scarred for life. And if all someone can think about is how it affects the gaming habbits, that someone is either a prick or completely out of touch with reality.

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    1. Re:Wow, you're fucked up in the head by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is the centrists of the world, like you and me, that will ultimately save it. We can profess, without embarrasment, that while it's a terrible shame that arabs are slaughtered in Lebanon, Israel has every right to defend itself. That's how balanced we are. You should read the Euston Manifesto, it's my bible.

    2. Re:Wow, you're fucked up in the head by packeteer · · Score: 0, Troll

      What you just said was not very centrist. You seem to side with Isreal. Nobody says Isreal shoudl nto be able to defend itself but giving low level soldiers little to no rules of engagement and sending them into a fight against people who they have been taught to hate? What the hella do you think is going to happen. The overuse of force is just as morally wrong as the random missle attacks on Isreal the difference is that for every citizen of Isreal who dies there will be dozens of arab's that die.

      And would everyone please stop talking about how this is Isreal vs. Muslims. Lebanon is 40% Christain. This is not Isreal vs. Muslims, its Isreal vs. anyone not jewish. They dont even like other jews who don't believe is Zionism. Isreal is self reightous and murder children... EXACTLY the same as Hezbollah.

      It may sound like I am defending Hezbollah but I am not. The reality is that the fighting is murderers vs. murderers and the people who really lose are the civilians on both sides.

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    3. Re:Wow, you're fucked up in the head by agent_no.82 · · Score: 1

      They've over-extended their right-to-defend. They should have sent in cells of their own.

    4. Re:Wow, you're fucked up in the head by SavvyPlayer · · Score: 3, Insightful
      And would everyone please stop talking about how this is Isreal vs. Muslims. Lebanon is 40% Christain. This is not Isreal vs. Muslims, its Isreal vs. anyone not jewish.

      Israel's action in Lebanon is no more an action against Lebanon than the thousands of rockets fired into Israel from Lebanon represent Lebanese foreign policy. This conflict has two well defined opponents, Israel & a vastly uderestimated microstate, Hezbollah. I'll leave it an exercise for the reader to determine the side which most indiscriminately chose to establish base-camp amongst non-partisan, civilian population centers on its eve of battle.

      Imagine for a moment you lived in a high-density urban area. How would you feel if neighbors you had never met suddenly initiated a wholesale assault on a neighboring country without your government's knowledge or consent?
    5. Re:Wow, you're fucked up in the head by soulshinejam · · Score: 1

      Thank you. Being here in Louisiana is tough. Our politicians rob us and are incompetent, at that. I'm well traveled and well read. I've been around the world and been in agreement with many of my European counter-parts. New Orleans enjoys much of an international flair and spirit and is truly different from any other American city, and it's tough to convice even the most "patriotic" of Americans that what happened in New Orleans should never happen again. Even some Americans are distant and ignorant of the effects of Katrina, the media suffers from "Katrina fatigue" and no one pays attention to us, but loves coming down for a good time during Voodoo, Jazz Fest, or Mardi Gras. The post which you were replying to does maintain a similar mindset to the chest-thumping rednecks which he purports to hate so adamantly (many of which are also in Louisiana). The world, the US, and even New Orleans are much too complex to make such sweepingly general negative statements about, as is much of the rest of the world. We still need help down here. LSU held off school and turned our basketball court into a first-stop triage for severely injured patients from New Orleans. Where I saw my Final Four achieving basketball team practice and play games, was then a make-shift emergency hospital, the memories of which still have not left me. I've volunteered many hours and resources to help other human beings. My best friends (especially those in Chalmette) have lost everything in their posession to that goddamn hurricane. While some foreign cock-sucker bitches about American's flawed (yet still human) foreign policy with his priviledged access to the Internet.

    6. Re:Wow, you're fucked up in the head by Gli7ch · · Score: 1

      And I'll leave it as an exercise for the reader to determine which side most indiscriminately chose to destroy said high-density urban area with missiles instead of using any kind of useful strategy.

    7. Re:Wow, you're fucked up in the head by pNutz · · Score: 1

      Well I for one would have some kids write cute messages on Isreali shells while their mother watches so that when the Lebanese children's skulls are crushed and bodies ripped apart, they'll know who hates them. That would punish the terrorists who've forced Israel to kill 1000 civilians including 300 children. What else could they do to defend themselves? I don't know how you can have a ceasefire with terrorists, except the one Israel had with Hamas and GB had with the IRA, and some other examples that are inconvenient to those who don't mind killing so many kids to protect a handful of their own.

      Weren't they just trying to get back a kidnapped soldier at first? This whole conflict has a Iraq War-level of goal-switching and escalation. At this rate they will be invading Syria to protect Lebanon from Israel having to bomb it anymore, and doing their best to start a new Arab War (beyond what they've already done). Go Israel.

      --
      Death and danger are my various breads and various butters.
  36. Survival Situation by CodeBuster · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It is actually not surprising that disaster situations tend to change people's priorities when it comes to physical possessions and property. Would you rather have your intact XBOX (w/working controllers) but no power OR MREs, Jeep Wrangler (or other four wheel drive vehicle), jerry cans w/fuel, waterproof matches, and your trusty sidearm (w/box of ammunition)? Actually, getting Americans to be more self-sufficient in a survival situation is probably a good thing as opposed to the throw away, outsourcing, let someone else do it society that we live in today. It is unfortunate that people suffered and in some cases lost their lives, but perhaps this will remind people that the government is not responsible for the survival of any one citizen, but rather society in general. You have to be prepared to take matters into your own hands because the police, government, coast guard, etc...will not always be there to help you.

    1. Re:Survival Situation by pNutz · · Score: 1

      Indeed sometimes they will wait several days to do a goddam thing, and the Mountees will be helping you before the National Guard. Don't count on the government for anything other than a flyover to "give you hope".

      Also, "getting Americans to be more self-sufficient in a survival situation is probably a good thing". God knows that if there's a dearth of survivalists anywhere on earth, it's in the USA.

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      Death and danger are my various breads and various butters.
  37. the article's tone sounds familiar... by forgetmenot · · Score: 1

    Lara Crigger.
    aka Jon Katz?

  38. I'd like to point out something by pembo13 · · Score: 1

    This article is refering to games. Not just games, video games which are by nature very easy to replicate. If a hurricane hit your home to the point where compact disks did not survive, you shouln't be worring about video games.

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  39. Material posessions don't mean jack in the long run.
    Anyone can make statements. "The moon is made of cheese", "2+2=5". Easy. What's more interesting is when you make statements that you can justify. Maybe if you bothered to justify what you say it'd sound like more than just trite cliches.
    Really, when it comes down to it, stuff doesn't matter much at all.
    And this one really stands in need of a lot of justification.

    According to you, 'stuff' doesn't matter. According to you abstractions like 'high scores' also mean nothing to you. It seems to me that you must live an incredibly meaningless and valueless life.

    --
    Doesn't it make you feel good to know that our freedoms are protected by politicans, lawyers and journalists.
    1. Re:Eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      According to you, 'stuff' doesn't matter. According to you abstractions like 'high scores' also mean nothing to you. It seems to me that you must live an incredibly meaningless and valueless life.

      That's an interesting comment to me, because from my perspective, someone who does think high scores and physical objects are meaningful and valuable must live an incredibly meaningless and valueless life.

      I can't imagine getting so worked up over video games, for example.

    2. Re:Eh? by exp(pi*sqrt(163)) · · Score: 1
      I don't think video games are the most important thing in the world. But I think that a life without any form of fun is empty and barely worth living. That fun can be in many forms and for me, one form of fun is video games.

      I also value physical objects. I value my body most of all because without it I would be nothing. I find it exceedingly strange for someone to claim that physical objects are not 'meaningful'.

      I also should point out that that the majority of physical objects that people in our society value are valued because they are physical necessities. When you step beyond necessities you'll find that people mostly value non-material goods like art, literature, music and relationships. They want an iPod, not because they want material goods, but because they want music. They want a cellphone or computer to keep in touch with friends or relatives. And they want a video game because they want to test and exercise their skill or intelligence.

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    3. Re:Eh? by Das+Modell · · Score: 1

      I'm sure most people who make sweeping statements like "material possessions don't matter" wouldn't be too happy if Tyler Durden blew up their apartment. In fact, why do these people have computers, HDTVs, game consoles and all other types of junk? Just get rid of it all, and show the world that meaningless physical objects are irrelevant to your enlightened zen lifestyle.

  40. Re:Wow... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You've got it. The only question that remains is this; should you take advantage of other people's suffering to revel in hedonism... or not? It is the age old question of the inhabitants of empires.

  41. Missing the point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The point of the feature wasn't that videogames aren't important, nor is it that videogames curaga mental wounds. More important was the memory of the time shared together with their brothers playing video games. Maybe some of you don't have brothers or friends that you played video games with, but I have both. I cherish the time I spent (and still spend) playing games with my brothers and friends much more than I care for the games themselves. It's more of the signifigance of what's attatched to the games than anything. We have an old Japanese copy of Smash Brothers 64 that's been with us for 9 years now. To me, it represents friendship, competetive rivalry (we've been playing this straight since 3 days after it came out in Japan, and if anyone cares/recognizes this name, the four of us would give Isai a run for his money), and a bunch of other things that I can't express very well on a forum full of trolls ready to [/ridicule]. The time spent playing the game is what I really care about.

    I mean, think about it. You just lost your entire world to fucking water. Isn't it nice to be able to be normal, trash-talking brothers? Even without the games, you've still got your family, and that might be where the real fun was.

  42. The Sims 1 Crowd Sitter by SimHacker · · Score: 1

    I wrote The Sims 1 Crowd Sitter to simulate the effects of Bush's (lack of) response to Hurricaine Katrina.

    -Don

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  43. not to be mean, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    if you have a samus poster hanging up in your room maybe you deserve to be hit by a hurricane. :)

  44. Old words but still very true by Circlotron · · Score: 1

    "even when a person has an abundance his life does not result from the things he possesses" - Jesus, in Luke 12:15.

    1. Re:Old words but still very true by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jesus, in Luke 12:15?? Are you sure? I thought it was said by Tyler Durden in Fight club?

    2. Re:Old words but still very true by bishop186 · · Score: 1

      Jesus, any character played by Brad Pitt, same difference.

  45. Re:Wow... by EugeneK · · Score: 0


    Psh, "Yanks", what are you from the 1860's?

    That's how them folks over on the other side of the Atlantic talk, they can't hardly talk English too well.

  46. Reading between the lines... by overbaud · · Score: 1

    ...this chicks prozac was destroyed by the hurricane as well. *sigh*

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  47. I'd like to thank the Academy... by Synn · · Score: 1

    Look, nobody takes this more seriously than me. That condo was my life, okay? I loved every stick of furniture in that place. That was not just a bunch of stuff that got destroyed, it was ME!

  48. Didn't the Author... by sesshomaru · · Score: 1

    Didn't the author of the article ever see, or read, Needful Things? Where's a Satanic Max von Sydow when you need him?

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    "MIT betrayed all of its basic principles."
  49. HL2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did anyone else notice the mention of HL2? Maybe I'm just being an awful nitpicker, but HL2 came out in Nov. 2004, and Katrina wasn't until almost a year later. Unless of course she means the Xbox version, which was released in November 2005. In that case, what was the deal with the mention of Steam?

  50. Re:Wow... by mgabrys_sf · · Score: 1

    And the glorious Brittish Empire did no wrong - ever. Genocide is great when you can ignore your own history I guess. In the meantime enjoy your taxes, and keep buying our crap and entertainment.

  51. Clueless in a global sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm struck by the cluelessness of the writer and probably most of her readers. Her country has been sending warriors around the world to cause this type of destruction and effect on people for the last century or so (Phillippines, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Nicaragua, Panama, Somalia, Afghanistan, Iraq; I leave out WW1, WW2 and Korea deliberately), and doing the same thing to its own Indian inhabitants for the century before that, and she's only just realised that this shit happens.

    Anyone whose home is destroyed by forces outside their control is going to go through the things described in the article. Unfortunately, "forces outside their control" are often US foreign policies.

    1. Re:Clueless in a global sense by mgabrys_sf · · Score: 1

      No you're not, you're just an ass who doesn't give two shits when there's actual genocide happening right now. Why not spam a plea for the hundreds of thousands being killed in Sudan / Darfur? Oh wait - the US has nothing to do with that. Too bad - it's been going on for what, 3 years now? Nice double standard you have there liberal prick.

  52. Re: the correct citation by Tiro · · Score: 3, Informative
    Freedom's just another word for nothin' left to lose.
    Kris Kristofferson
  53. Re:Wow... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Psh, "Yanks", what are you from the 1860's?
    "Septics" is much more descriptive!
  54. Re: the correct citation by IntelliTubbie · · Score: 1

    "A man is rich in proportion to the number of things he can afford to let alone." -Henry David Thoreau

    This idea goes at least as far back as the Greek stoic philosophers, and probably further. It didn't make it's debut in Fight Club, and no, the hippies didn't invent it in the 60's either.

    Cheers,
    IT

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    Power corrupts. PowerPoint corrupts absolutely.

  55. On Freedom by vain+gloria · · Score: 1

    "I love you, you love Free,
    We're best friends as friends should be!"

    - Richard M. Stallman

  56. Sucked? You got that right. by Ruff_ilb · · Score: 1

    Of course it sucked! It was a low pressure weather system, after all.

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  57. 50% of the voters... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just wanted to reply to a portion of the parent statement. If just over 50% of the votes were for Bush, and 42.45% of the US voted in the last election (Uncited Wikipedia, YMMV), that would mean he only garnered about 21.53% of the nation behind him. This was a record turnout in number of people, and the highest percentage since 1968.

    Yeah, it really is that sad.

    1. Re:50% of the voters... by bishop186 · · Score: 1

      Now think about how many of those 21.53 percent of people actually agreed with what Bush was saying and didn't just vote on party lines (i.e. check the "Vote All Republican" box). That makes it even more depressing. Democracy doesn't really work the way we'd like it to because many people can't be bothered to vote, and even less of those can be bothered to become informed about their decisions and not just vote on partisan lines.

  58. Aaand the Mr Insensitive prize goes to... by Moraelin · · Score: 1
    I'll take a materialist over an emotionalist any day. I mean fuck, get over your goddamn self (the author of the article)! You may have lost most of your material possessions, but apparently those were the least of your attachments.

    (yes, I encounter too many people who go on and fucking on about some trivial event)


    Aaand we have a winner. The Mr Insensitive prize goes to noidentity (188756).

    Now on a more serious note... Dude, do you even have a fucking clue what you're talking about or asking for there? Some people got psychologically scarred for life with Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder. You think you can just tell someone "fuck, get over your goddamn self" and their psychological trauma will heal just like that? What else? Go tell people in a wheelchair, "fuck, get on your goddamn feet" and see them miraculously healed? Are you Jesus, or what?

    PTSD is an actual brain dysfunction, complete with a change in hormone and mediator balance. It's not something someone chose as a lifestyle. It's a primal instinct of desperately trying to learn how you could have avoided a situation where you barely escaped with your life. Except there's nothing to learn, so it goes on for ever. How the fuck do you expect someone to just heal an actual dysfunction of their body? No, seriously, I'm curious. Please enlighten me. How is that supposed to work?

    No, seriously, it cracks me up seeing people thinking you can just tell someone to heal, just because it's a psychological problem. As if someone had consciously decided to have a hell life with PTSD, and they only need your superior logic to see the flaw in that. In most cases they know they have a problem, and they alread know it's not logical, so pointing it out -- especially that distastefully -- achieves nothing more than being a slap in the face. In the worst case, it actually makes the problem worse: someone with depression will just get more depressed, someone with PTSD will get more stress than they already had, etc.

    In a nutshell, the idiotic notion that you can just give someone a mental slap to get them out of PTSD or depression, is as stupid as thinking you can poke a finger into someone's wound to convince them to just heal. That stupid.

    Plus, I don't know what Mr Tough facade you're going for, but something like that isn't "some trivial event". If seeing your whole life destroyed before your very eyes and going through a hell time of just staying alive for the next weeks counts as "some trivial event" for you, then who the fuck are you? Rambo? Do you get that happening to you every day? Do you routinely fend off psychos in a lawless city and dive into flooded ruins just to get something to eat or clean water, to the point where it's become trivial and normal? Or what?

    Or lemme guess... you're just a self-centered idiot, sitting comfortably in your middle-class home, and decreeing someone else's tragedy as trivial just because it's not yours. As long as _you_ still have _your_ fridge full of fresh food and bottled water, it's "trivial" if someone _else_ had to drink mud.
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    1. Re:Aaand the Mr Insensitive prize goes to... by noidentity · · Score: 1

      My criticism was directed at the writing, not the writer's experiences or devastating effects of them. Trauma of all kinds has serious effects on people and the healing certainly can't be done by merely wishing for it, agreed. Sorry if I came off as dismissing anyone's struggle.

      The trivial events I was referring to were those that other people have dominated conversations with me talking about. In the article, trivial things like a video game poster are used to launch utterly boring paragraphs of pretense.

      I hate crappy writing and I won't stop criticizing it when I encounter it in places meant for public consumption.

  59. Don't be too hard on her for the tone of writing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    First, I want to thank the person who submitted this story to /.. I'm sick of hearing & reading & seeing videos & pictures & commentaries about Hurricane Katrina, but as a long-time gamer (early 80's) I really appreciated this piece.

    I hate to sound elitist or anything like that, but unless/until you've seen first-hand the mass destuction that happened in New Orleans & the Mississippi Gulf coast you just won't get it. It's not about X-Boxes or PS2s, it's about a deep desire for a return to normalcy & the recognition that the old definiton of "normalcy" is selfish & breakable. Not that being selfish is always bad, of course.

    Games & avid game playing ended for me on day 3 without power when the batteries for my NeoGeo Pocket Color (shut up) died.

    I still play occasionaly. I had younger relatives stay with me this summer and, after dusting off my old reliable N64, we'd play for hours on end. I was amazed at how many secrets & moves I thought I had forgotten forever. Eventually though, the game play would end and reality slowly sank back in.

    And yes, it's been almost a year since Katrina rolled inland, but the signs of the storm are still everywhere and there's no avoiding them. "Blue roofs" still dot the landscape, homes and buildings damaged beyond use are still easy to find as far as north as Hattiesburg (75 miles from the Mississippi coast), there's no shortage of tiny FEMA trailers parked next to a foundation where houses once stood, the twisted & fallen trees can't be ignored, and then there's "that look" in the eyes of people who either weathered the storm (no pun intended) or left behind everything to flee inland. Every power outage or gusty thunderstorm always ends with memories of Hurricane Katrina.
    Always.

    I've played games since I was 6 when first got an Intellivision for christmas, so I still consider myself a gamer. But the value I once placed on gaming has dimishished dramatically and the desire to own the latest next-gen system has gone because they mean little/nothing to me. Not after that. Call me a spoiled selfish American for whining about not having electricty for a month during summer in the South, or for having to wait 4 hours in line outside of Wal-Mart in the sun just to buy essentials (beer, cigs...oh, and food!), or not knowing when/if my university would re-open and my boss would call me back to work. Yes, people around the world live & suffer under much worse conditions than I could ever claim, but I (naively, prehaps) never imagined things could get so bleak and dire for so long here in the States.

    The passionate game-player left this gamer and probably many others a while ago, but the fondness of games still remains. Actual game-play requires participation in the game and I and my friends just haven't felt like taking time out of my day to game. It's easier to pick up a book/newspaper/magazine or flip on the TV when I want to momentarily block out reality.

    But I'll never forget Mega Man's theme song or the feeling I got when I first beat Super Mario Bros. or Marvel vs Capcom. And I'll never forget the kid at the hurricane shelter who cried when I gave him my GBA collection with tons of spare batteries.

  60. There is no self. by elucido · · Score: 1

    Every self is a part of something else. A self is a member of a family, which is a citizen of a state or country, which is also a member of a species, a church, a club or fraturnity, or anything else a person connects to. So a person is more than just a self, and no self is truly independent, we are inter-dependent on other selves, our habitat, other life and other entities. Of course a selfish individual may act like the universe revolves around them.

  61. Re:Wow... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Brits and their Blair are fucking murderous twats too, but at least there is some kind of opposition to the brutality of their government over there... unlike in yankeeland where it seems like every last one of you fucks cheer on genocide after genocide.

    I don't understand why you would think I'm a Brit though.

  62. What is George Bush Doing About This? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My GOD not ANOTHER MISERABLE FAILURE!

    Signed,

    A "Progressive"

  63. No fun at time of disaster by ultrabot · · Score: 1

    If you read the article, the more important thing is that once you have a town to rebuild, or something really serious happens/has happened, you no longer seek the distraction of a video game. You have something more important to do, and games lose their appeal, due to some deep survival instinct.

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  64. Re:Wow... by Tekzel · · Score: 1

    Screw you commie, we have done a million times more good than harm. Flame away haters, it wont change the fact.

  65. Virtual vs. Real by alexgieg · · Score: 1
    There's an excelent article related to this question of reality vs. virtual life, Surviving the Fall of the State, by William S. Lind, an anti-war, anti-Bush, and anti-neo-con conservative specialized in war theory that writes regularly on LewRockwell.com. Here's an excerpt:

    I am not talking about "survivalism" here (...) [but about] an understanding of how to live in reality for the time when all the virtual realities collapse.

    Virtual realities lie at the heart of Brave New World, aka the New World Order, "globalism," "democratic capitalism" (as the neo-cons define it), etc. The bargain Brave New World offers is this: if you will only do as Marcuse advises and trade the Reality Principle for the Pleasure Principle, we will enmesh you in virtual realities that will make you happy. True, you will lose your free will, because our virtual realities will condition you to think as we want you to. But they will also give you anything and everything you want. So what if none of it is real? All that matters is that you feel happy, right now.

    (...) all of them [virtual realities], without exception, eventually collapse. The complex structures and vast resources required to sustain them are evanescent. (...) answers to the Fourth Generation [of modern war] and to Brave New World, false images both, can only be found at the individual and family level, because that is where the decision to live by the Reality Principle must be made.
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  66. Old Christian saying by tbcpp · · Score: 1

    At the risk of being labeled as offtopic, or flamebait, there is an old saying by Christians, "Only two things will survive this world: The Word of God, and the souls of men." The more I live, the more I come to realize this is so true. The material things of this world that we hold on to are so pointless.

    Okay, back to work....

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  67. Online properties by Skrekkur · · Score: 1

    I guess in situations like these virtual properties, like ones in MMORPGS or a licence to download hl2 again, or other steam games(or similar systems) can really be of more value, since you don't lose it if everything in your city even, gets destroyed.

  68. Re:Wow... by mgabrys_sf · · Score: 1

    Right and of course you've shown your concern over Dafaur in the Sudan's genocide for the last 3 years. No wait - no you haven't, you don't give a shit about genocide at all - you just want to bash the USA. Cry me a fucking river.

  69. Fool me once... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey, guess what--hurricane season occurs every year, without fail, in that part of the country. On top of that, in this particular instance, the people were told to leave, well in advance. So my question is: why were these people living there?