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Possible 25 Million Year Old Frog Found
dispatch writes "A small frog, found preserved in amber, has been found by researchers in Mexico City. The frog, according to the scientists, may be some 25 million years old! According to the article: 'The chunk of amber containing the 0.4-inch frog was uncovered by a miner in southern Chiapas states in 2005 and was bought by a private collector, who lent it to scientists for study.' Unfortunately, it doesn't seem as though the scientists will be allowed to drill into the rock, at the owner's request."
The owner sounds like a real toad.
"The average reporter we talk to is 27 years old......They literally know nothing." - Ben Rhodes
... the hole they drill enables the owner to put it on a chain and carry around his neck?
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Everyone knows you need a mosquito to resurrect the Dinosaurs. Whoever heard of a blood sucking frog?!
I want my bloody Dinosaurs!
* Stamps feet, puts hands on hits and pouts *
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.. but usually mosquitoes instead of frogs. I saw a documentary about extracting the blood they ate and making clones of the animals it belongs to. All I remember is to stand still and you will be fine.
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They'll just wait until he croaks.
It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
Does it taste like chicken?
Browsing at +1 - no ACs, I ignore their posts. So refreshing!
...although Kermit might qualify. However, if they find a Transylvanian vampire duck with a penchant for carrot-juice preserved in amber, they'd damn well better get the DNA, whatever the owner says.
It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
Kudos to the scientist. From the photo I would have called it a grasshopper. Anyways, this is very cool news. If the owner (or future owner) allows scientists to drill in and get a small sample of DNA we'll be able to link it to a modern variety of frog and perhaps other animals; and it will be an amazing lineage of how DNA gets morphed over time to adapt to the environment. I'll need to do some searching to see how the frog's environment differs from 25 million years ago to now.
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The Earth is only 6,000 years old, so this ancient frog must be from another planet!
There are a lot of interesting non-invasive techniques that can be used to analyze the frog for now. Sure no DNA but the frog has made it 25 million years, I'm sure the DNA isn't going to get much worse in the next thousand years or so.
Right now DNA technology is in its infancy. Eventually someone who inherits or buys the frog will let the more advanced DNA technology of the day at the frog and we will find out about it then.
Nothing is being lost we just need a bit of patience.
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..to be kissed and to be turned into a princess.
I hope someone gives it that much chance.
The best planning can be done after the project completes.
Jeeze if your trying to make a crack at creationists, at least be funny about it!
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This frog is undoubtedly very talented and has a great voice.
Half inch~! That is one tiny ass frog.
However, he expressed doubt that the stone's owner would allow researchers to drill a small hole into the chunk of amber. "I don't think he will allow it, because it's a very rare, unique piece," said Carbot.
Oh my god losers, they didn't even ask him, they just say "oh well I don't think he'll accept".
it doesn't seem as though the scientists will be allowed to drill into the rock, at the owner's request.
I love the smell of a misleading summary in the morning.
You just got troll'd!
There are worse things one can find fossilized near Mexico City.
Surprisingly, "The Black Scorpion" had special effects from O'Brien and not Harryhausen.
All glory to the Hypnofrog!
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"Mmmmmm... Prehistoric"
Check out the 3D pics at http://digimorph.org/. Once that is done, and no relevant information was found, one might proceed to persuade the owner. To take a destructive step first is just unnecessary.
(...or they could just ask nicely.)
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The big question is, is it a crunchy frog, or might it just be some sort of mock frog?
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That's what makes this so special, it was around over 24 million years waiting for a planet to come into being directly underneath it.
Best not to drill it, though. You know what they say about letting sleeping frogs lie. :-)
I see even classic Slashdot is now pretty much unusable on dial up anymore.
"Unfortunately, it doesn't seem as though the scientists will be allowed to drill into the rock, at the owner's request."
Well just drill in anyway, replace the frog with an animal cracker and hope he don't notice.
Also - Jurassic Croak. Groan
These are found quite often.
If you found a frog in most products you'd be disgusted. Here it's a good thing. Anyone know who does their PR?
Reduce, reuse, cycle
(with Steve Irwin voice)Wooow, look at that frog, iy have 0.4 inch, but it's a real monster...(end)
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They should call it the "Dick Clark" toad.
Knowing Google's lust for data collection, the Soviet Union is still alive and well inside the psyche of Sergey Brin....
Get with the program people. A frog in amber is soooooooo much less tasty than scorpions in lollipops http://www.firebox.com/index.html?dir=firebox&acti on=product&pid=618&src_t=sbk&src_id=lollipop
Nothing witty
"You've found Nurhachi?"
I can just see the ad line "Collectors item - pristine 25 Million year old frog, certified by the @@@@ Lab". From the looks of it, the collector got a bunch of scientists to do the marketing for him. Now that the interest will get built up, the value will go up. Also, he makes sure that there is enough value for the next buyer as well by ensuring they don't drill it up now.
I think you're more likely to find prehistoric frogs with tire impressions.
An there is scientific evidence that the earth is only 6000 years old. A great website with free vids on the info http://www.drdino.com/downloads.php The artical doesnt even state what kind of testing was done to say it is 25 million years old they just throw out some random number for all we know it could have been done last week in a lab.
Erm that really ought to read 25 million year old corpse of a frog or something. They got me real scared for a second ...
rofl, pity i can't give you 'digg up' points..
I always figured it was done as a last minute rush job over the weekend (the same as everything else in the Universe)
damn those Service Level Agreements
Unless its hypnotoad and its going to control our minds! Thats pretty terrifying.
Cig? No thanks I'm trying to quit.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Isn't this the guy going to jail for tax evasion and who threatened the prosecutors and judges on the jail telephone. He doesn't sound particularly bright and somehow I think he's probably not the guy to look for in regards to "Truth".
He certainly missed that part of the bible about render unto Caesar and do unto others. So I would guess that in all the other fields he claims to offer startling evidence that overthrow the existing theories and mountains of data, he's probably missed the boat too.
Its not dead Its paigning for the fjords
"A small frog, found preserved in amber..."
...Delicatessen :-D
I think that I'm with the owner. Genetic sequencing technology is still rapidly developing. Eventually, it will probably be possible to sequence the frog's entire genome in a few days from a small sample, so let's wait to drill.
Scientist: Frog could be 25 million years old
It could also be 35 million years old. Change the headline!
Who made up this 25-million year thing anyway, and why. It sounds to me like some sensationalist news reporter asked:
Reporter: Is it possible the frog is old.
Scientist: It is very like to be very old, considering it is preserved in amber.
Reporter: Could it be a million years old?
Scientist: Perhaps.
Reporter: How about a billion years old?
Scientist: That is less probable as frogs weren't around quite yet.
Reporter: Maybe one-hundred million years old?
Scientist: You may be pushing it.
Reporter: Then fifty?
Scientist: Listen, lower it to twenty-five and you can use my name. Now just pay me and get lost, the next reporter is coming in.
Reporter: "Scientist: Frog could be 25 million years old"
Have you read my journal today?
is it alive?!
Probably based on how deep in which layer it was discovered. Often times the 24 million year old stuff is on top of the 25 million year old stuff. :) I also think they can tell what type of tree the amber came from. For example, if the species of trees around producing amber 300 million years ago is different to the ones producing amber 25 million years ago and the ones producing amber fossils from 30 to 200 million years back didn't grow in that geographic area, etc.
An there is scientific evidence that the earth is only 6000 years old. A great website with free vids on the info http://www.drdino.com/downloads.php [drdino.com]
I am curious as to why the claims of a known liar should be considered.
STOP MISUSING APOSTROPHES, YOU MORONS!!!
Have the French been around for that long?
...Crunchy frog.
Prehistoric stuff encapsulated in amber:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-4BQqbyYaQ
The difference between Slashdot and Fark is right now I would be posting a picture of the Crazy Frog.
I would think that the poor spelling and grammar in Pdtp's post would be an indication of his or her ability to discern fact from fantasy.
IAALS.
I have no feelings for this Hovind fellow one way or another, but whoever put together that Geocities page doesn't understand what a "lie" is. Stating an opinion, whether or not it's at odds with common thought, is not a lie. Not only that, but the author makes quite a few unsourced statements about Hovind on subjects that it's doubtful that he knows about, and personal attacks litter the entire piece. Not exactly something that inspires confidence.
The problem is common among point-by-point rebuttals -- the author was so desperate to find "lies" that he ended up misrepresenting the argument that he is trying to attack. There are some good points buried in there, but they're in the middle of so much crap that nobody except people that have already made up their minds on the subject are going to actually read through to find them.
From what I read, there's no information there that isn't covered in more depth and accuracy elsewhere. It would probably make more sense to point to a more professional page, if you feel the need to point people to a source on the arguments against creationism.
How can we continue to believe in a just universe and freedom to eat crackers if we have no ale?
I have no feelings for this Hovind fellow one way or another, but whoever put together that Geocities page doesn't understand what a "lie" is. Stating an opinion, whether or not it's at odds with common thought, is not a lie.
I do not dispute that some of the entries on Buddika's page are opinion, but you cannot deny that a number of the exposed claims from Hovind are demonstratable lies.
For example, Hovind's claim that the human Cytochrome gene is closer to that of a sunflower's than that of a chimpanzee's is a complete falsehood.
Hovind also lies about the definition of "evolution". The fundamental premise of his arguments against the theory of evolution are an outright lie. Citing him as a source of information on any subject demonstrates either personal dishonesty or abysmal ignorance. In either case, the credibilty of the individual making the reference is called into question.
STOP MISUSING APOSTROPHES, YOU MORONS!!!
Please! Let's get our ancient Eurocentric fable memes right.
... to be kissed and the world will be shocked to find there's an older prince than Charles.
... to be kissed by Diana, who is currently unavailable.
And you should have said
-or-
Not that I would say either of those things, which would be in poor taste.
sigs, as if you care.
Straight out of the classic Looney Tunes cartoon... Michigan J. Frog!
"Hello! ma baby, Hello! Ma honey, Hello! ma ragtime gal."
etc etc.
And this was my point. I only skimmed through the first page of stuff, because I don't care enough to try to sort through Buddika's ranting to try to find the useful information -- and so, of course, I never made it to the Cytochrome gene stuff. Nobody who doesn't already have an anti-creationist axe to grind is going to bother reading it when there are dozens of good, professional, well-written and organized sites out there.
Like I said, there are some good points there, but the presentation is so poor that I have no confidence in the author.
How can we continue to believe in a just universe and freedom to eat crackers if we have no ale?
they want their frog back
..and of course we're all qualified to say "if it's in amber, it must be 25,000,000 years old. They stopped making that stuff around 24,999,940 years ago when the old lady with the recipe died".
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This is clear proof that the French founded civilization.
if I looking for frog him name is hopkin green frog I lost my frog P.S. I'll find my frog Who took my frog Who found my frog
Several turtles, actually. As the old lady said, "It's turtles all the way down."
I see even classic Slashdot is now pretty much unusable on dial up anymore.