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Wireless Power Now A Reality

SlashRating© 35 slashdottit! tm CSMastermind writes "CNN is reporting on a breakthrough technology. A startup called Powercast has developed and patented a device, the size of a dime and costing 5$ to make, which allows power to be transmitted wirelessly. The device has already gained FCC approval and the company has inked deals with the likes of Phillips. From the article: 'Powercast says it has signed nondisclosure agreements to develop products with more than 100 companies, including major manufacturers of cell phones, MP3 players, automotive parts, temperature sensors, hearing aids, and medical implants. The last of those alone could be a multibillion-dollar market: Pacemakers, defibrillators, and the like require surgery to replace dead batteries. But with a built-in Powercast receiver, those batteries could last a lifetime. '"

197 comments

  1. dupe? by Mr.+Capris · · Score: 5, Insightful

    IIRC, there was something like this last year....

    Although i could be thinking of the "wireless extension cords" on ThinkGeek...

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    1. Re:dupe? by SEMW · · Score: 2, Informative

      This isn't an april fools joke -- although I'm pretty sure it's a dupe nevertheless, and it's also not very interesting. It doesn't even use induction; it's just transmitting power by E-M waves -- here, radio waves; which certainly works -- crystal radios anyone? RFID chips? -- but is VERY inefficient (especially if you want to convert the radio waves back into electricity, rather than, say sound, as a crystal radio does), and can't be used to transmit more than tiny amounts of power. The only thing new here is a small increase in efficiency.

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    2. Re:dupe? by The+Great+Pretender · · Score: 5, Informative

      There was a report on cnet Jan 7 this year. They unveiled the concept and Philips interest at CES 2007 http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-12760_7-9673092-5.htm l

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    3. Re:dupe? by saskboy · · Score: 5, Funny

      My calculator has had wireless power - from light, for decades. This is such old news ;-)

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    4. Re:dupe? by naoursla · · Score: 1

      What do you think induction is based on if not radio waves?

    5. Re:dupe? by evilviper · · Score: 2, Insightful

      but is VERY inefficient

      It would certainly be idiotic for things like cellphones. However, I could see the technology being incredibly popular for medical implants.

      Instead of a $50,000 surgery to replace a battery, you put a little charged coil against your body for a few hours every few months to charge the battery.
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    6. Re:dupe? by SEMW · · Score: 3, Informative

      What do you think induction is based on if not radio waves? An alternating magnetic field, which induces a current. This is NOT the same as electromagnetic radiation, of which radio waves are an example.
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    7. Re:dupe? by aldo.gs · · Score: 1

      I remember it as well, just about april 1st, also. :P

    8. Re:dupe? by __aaoyac5342 · · Score: 1

      Lol I knew there would be a story on slashdot but really I was hoping for one that wasn't a repeat from last year. And yes I also remember the wireless extension cord thing from think geek, except I tried to buy one :P

    9. Re:dupe? by naoursla · · Score: 4, Informative

      Radio waves are alternating magnetic fields. The faster the field is alternated the more power it has and the further it travels. Go study how an AM transmitter and receiver works. Most AM antennas are simple inductive coils that pick up a modulations in a magnetic field. Building an AM transmitter is one of the simplest projects you can do (and was a project in my first circuits class). All you do is make a periodic signal and bound the amplitude by some input (like from a microphone). Then you run it through a coil of wire to create the alternate magnetic field. The magnetic field then hits the coil in the antenna of the receiver and induces a current. The current passes over a resistor and you measure the voltage level. You run that voltage level through a band pass filter and then through an amplifier and then to a speaker and voila! you get to hear whatever the microphone on the other end is picking up.

    10. Re:dupe? by alphamugwump · · Score: 1
      All I really need to know I learned in freshman physics:
      • Changing electric fields create changing magnetic fields
      • Changing magnetic fields create changing electric fields
      • This is light, and it always travels at the same speed
      • And it arrives as a particle
      • So if you run real fast, everthing looks funny
      • And if you turn the lights way down, you see weird flashes
      • But only if you're looking for them
    11. Re:dupe? by Gotta+ask+yourself.. · · Score: 2, Informative

      Radio waves are alternating magnetic fields.

      That's wrong, they are alternating magnetic AND electric fields, orthogonal to each other. That's what electromagnetic radiation means, indeed.

    12. Re:dupe? by RedElf · · Score: 2, Funny

      Decades? You thieving little techno-whore, this technology has been in my spaceship since long before the Earth came about.

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    13. Re:dupe? by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 1

      Such technologies have been in use for years, for pacemakers, cochlear implants, and other embedded medical devices. They're not hard to make. Of course, if you have such a device implanted, you *cannot* be safely put in an MRI. The shifting magnetic fields will couple to the embedded loops in the device and drive masses of current through it, destroying it and potentially overheating it. If the coupling is strong enough, such as if a magnet is in the device, then the MRI will couple *mechanically* to the device, and can rip it completely out of your twitching, charred flesh.

      It's a real concern: the signs are up all over the MRI chamber warning people with such devices never to go near them.

    14. Re:dupe? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ummm...i think the real risk is the METAL. You know, you don't want metal objects being sheared away internally. Actually, this site (search for pacemaker) seems to say just that. And I trust that place the a slashdot person on Apr. 1.

    15. Re:dupe? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or simply charge up when they use defibrillators on you!

    16. Re:dupe? by xded · · Score: 1

      Funny?!? Light actually is an electromagnetic radiation! Just in a range of frequencies in the hundreds of terahertz... And the principles on wich lasers and leds are built upon, sometimes are the same ones used to emit electromagnetic radiations at lower frequencies (read, tenth of gigahertz).

      Solar cells are actually able to extract energy from light because, with these therahertz frequencies, ligth's electromagnetic radiation carries enough power to interact with semiconductor's atomic structure, and generate electron's flow...

      ded
    17. Re:dupe? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My calculator has had wireless power - from light, for decades. This is such old news ;-)

      When we start opening up people's chests so that we can install little power cells in them to run their pacemaker, will we finally be making people a better window than a door?

    18. Re:dupe? by anethema · · Score: 1

      Radio waves are alternating magnetic fields. The faster the field is alternated the more power it has and the further it travels.

      Actually this is wrong. At least on the 'further it travels' aspect.

      If you look up the calculation on loss as a electromagnetic wave travels, one of the components is 20log(f), f being the frequency. So as f goes up, so does loss in the same amount of distance.

      Here is the full equation shamelessly taken from wikipedia.

      FreeSpaceLoss (dB) = 36.6 dB + 20*log[frequency(MHz)] + 20*log[distance(miles)]

      So basically the further you get or the higher in frequency, the greater the loss.

      You can off set this a bit because as the frequency goes up, the easier it is to get gain out of the same sized antenna. Get high enough and you can use parabolic dishes which really amps up the gain :D

      Low frequency also has the advantage of having a much larger wave length, so the lower the frequency, the more objects such as buildings, mountains, etc become insignificant. Look at the atomic clock signal in Ft. Collins, Colorado. 60kHz and you can pick it up anywhere in northern america. Try this with 2.4 GHz!

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    19. Re:dupe? by Technician · · Score: 1

      At shorter wavelengths, a coil of wire is not needed. You can do a lot at the molecular level. A common wireless power transmitter in my area is called a light bulb. A reciever is call a solar cell. The advantage of using this technology is once in a while you don't have to provide the power to make the light so you get free power. Unfortunately, this seems to work only during the daytime.

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    20. Re:dupe? by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 1

      Radio waves are alternating magnetic fields. The faster the field is alternated the more power it has and the further it travels.

      Actually this is wrong. At least on the 'further it travels' aspect.


      Also the "just magnetic field" part, (as explained by another poster above.)

      And also the "faster the stronger" part.

      The rate of alternation is just the frequency of the wave, and has nothing to do with power.

      The power for a given waveform and polarization is proportional to the square of the peak field strength. (For an arbitrary waveform it's actually the integral of the magnitude of the cross product of the electric and magnetic field vectors...)

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    21. Re:dupe? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You aliens, stealing our jobs. GTFO of Earth!

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  3. See you Monday by mh101 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Well, no point in me returning to Slashdot until Monday... hopefully nothing truly interesting and non-April-Fool's related gets posted until then.

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    1. Re:See you Monday by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not sure if you're trying to be funny, but this is real.

    2. Re:See you Monday by l0cust · · Score: 2, Funny

      What would be funny if this story was correct for a change. Then we will win and you will lose, We will point and laugh and You will cry!

      Yeah I need some coffee now.

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    3. Re:See you Monday by Monsieur_F · · Score: 1

      As if there was something worth of interest on other days...

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    4. Re:See you Monday by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you would bother to RTFA, you'd notice it's from March 30th... (not April 1st) :-P

    5. Re:See you Monday by nomadic · · Score: 1

      I thought this story WAS real. The actual news article it links to is dated March 30th.

    6. Re:See you Monday by AusIV · · Score: 1

      RTFA, it's dated March 30th. Unless they started their April fools joking early, I think this is legit. Plus, I've been seeing stuff similar to this for a year and a half or so, sometimes nowhere close to April fool's day.

  4. Re:Nothing for you to see here. Please move along. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If the next slashdot score isn't 42 I'm going to be Unhappy.

  5. Mod me up by killa62 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Thanks!

  6. little box.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    Anyone else notice that stupid 'slashdottit' box? I cant view the summary of the story (not that I was going to read it)

    if its some type of joke it isn't funny..

  7. welcome to the late 1800s by smash · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Tesla did this sort of thing prior to 1900...

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    1. Re:welcome to the late 1800s by dbIII · · Score: 1
      Exactly right - and he had the excuse that he wouldn't know if it was worth it until the physics was worked out and there was no wired infrastructure.

      I welcome our new wireless first April overlords.

    2. Re:welcome to the late 1800s by Adeptus_Luminati · · Score: 1

      Get all your Tesla movies & research documents here:

      http://btjunkie.org/search?q=Tesla&c=0&t=0&o=52

      Adeptus

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    3. Re:welcome to the late 1800s by SQL+Error · · Score: 1

      Are you saying that Tesla had never heard of the inverse-square law?

    4. Re:welcome to the late 1800s by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Teslas was supposedly working with EM from a different perspective. Just google a bit around for his work, scalar power, Tom Bearden's stories about Tesla, etc. etc.


      Stories go around about Teslas working with a kind of EM system that did not lose power over distance IIRC.


      Whatever might be the truth about Tesla's work: he surely was one of the greatest minds of all time.

    5. Re:welcome to the late 1800s by Eternauta3k · · Score: 1

      Are you saying that Tesla had never heard of the inverse-square law?
      Maybe he was using a very high gain antenna?
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    6. Re:welcome to the late 1800s by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Bearden's a crackpot. Strangely, his rantings DO get some things right (many of his complaints about how electrical theory is taught to children are quite valid), but please don't associate Tesla and Bearden too closely - Tesla's stuff doesn't depend on dodgy physical pseudotheories (unlike Bearden), just VLF resonant coupling, which is trivially experimentally demonstrable, the powers that be just don't like it (and these days FUD it on medical grounds, neglecting the fact that particulate pollution from fossil fuel burning is WAY more harmful than a mildly increased E.M. background).

    7. Re:welcome to the late 1800s by financialguy · · Score: 1
      He did, but what I think a lot of posters are missing here is that this isn't news because it's a new invention, it's news because it's a new innovation.

      Some may choose to argue even this point, but I cannot believe that this technology wouldn't have been used for implanted medical devices earlier had it been available (assuming the radio waves won't interefere with the device, which the article seems to imply they wouldn't).

    8. Re:welcome to the late 1800s by The_mad_linguist · · Score: 1

      Personally, I like to get them from the FBI...

      http://foia.fbi.gov/foiaindex/tesla.htm

  8. Dupe by splodger75 · · Score: 1, Insightful
    1. Re:Dupe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Slashdot editors can think of new jokes!

      tee hee... April Fools!

  9. i think... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it would be great!!! just think all that vibrators stuff that...
    oh ok, april's fools day, right
    i got it now

  10. Wireless power has been a reality. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wireless power has been a reality for quite some time:

    http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/wec.shtml

  11. Not april fools by benh57 · · Score: 5, Informative
    This one's real kids.

    Write-up from Jan.

    Official Site

    1. Re:Not april fools by naspime · · Score: 1

      Yeah, consider me fooled. While reading the summary I started laughing out loud (went out for a few drinks earlier...it's saturday night). Thought it was a pretty good one (pipe dream and all).

      Then I clicked the article link, noticed it was actually CNN, dated March 30th. Damn.

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    2. Re:Not april fools by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess too many people fell asleep during Physics II. If the generated electric field is parallel to the receiving wire, then an alternating current is generated along the wire. Now, just to keep the electric field always parallel to the wire . . .

  12. Be a real bitch when there's an outage by oDDmON+oUT · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Frank! I *told* you you should get the cable backup, but noooo....they'd mess up the line of your suit". Shakes head dolefully and flutters hands ineffectually "At least I could have plugged that pacemaker in".

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  13. Re:Nothing for you to see here. Please move along. by aussie_a · · Score: 0

    How come a CNN story is perpetuating the April Fool bullshit with an article from the 30th?

  14. So Nikola Tesla was right after all. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Redundant

    So Nikola Tesla was right after all.

  15. Check the parent out, guys... by bazmonkey · · Score: 1

    It's real, methinks.

  16. Re:wtf by jibjibjib · · Score: 5, Funny

    This one's actually real, though.

  17. Probably NOT an April Fools joke by jsm300 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If this is an April Fools joke then a lot of work went into establishing background for it. According to a CNET article back in January this company (Powercast) attended CES and mentioned Philips as a partner back then. The article referenced here was written on March 30th (although the URL has 04/01 in the name). That article is in complete agreement with the Cnet article. the Powercast website (powercastco.com) was established last October. Then again, Slashdot has a tradition of a bunch of bogus articles on 04/01, but perhaps this isn't one of them.

  18. What about the efficiency of such a scheme? by Marcos+Eliziario · · Score: 1

    Well, we know that every energy conversion step wastes some energy. So, at times where several governments are planning to ban incandescent lights, is it wise to go the way of wirelless power, with all the potential waste, just to enable people to have the convenience of charging their laptops without the minor hassle of handling a cable? (PS: Of course, for serious applications like medical implants, I think it's a good idea and worth the waste)

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  19. Re:OMG Ponies! by jibjibjib · · Score: 3, Insightful

    No.

  20. This story is legit. by aphexbrett · · Score: 5, Informative

    See this arstechnica article from Jan 17 2007.

    http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070117-8639 .html

    1. Re:This story is legit. by Calyth · · Score: 1

      And also the link in the /. post was to a site that posted it before April 1

  21. Induction by dsanfte · · Score: 1

    All hail the power of induction! The same power that lets insane farmers lay down ~2km of copper wire underneath high tension lines to leech ~110V of current will power our PDAs from... a few centimeters away.

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    1. Re:Induction by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      The same power that lets insane farmers lay down ~2km of copper wire underneath high tension lines to leech ~110V

      I heard of guy who lived next door to an AM radio transmitter. He hooked a wire to the cyclone wire fence around the transmitter, rectified and inverted it and used it to run his house.

      Must have taken a while to find, too.

  22. Re:wtf by SirTalon42 · · Score: 1

    Maybe slashdot is gonna do a 'reverse april fools' day, because they know no one will fall for their stuff, they're gonna put stuff that SOUNDS fake (of course they'll probably fall for ones and think they're real and submit it as if it was).

  23. Curse you April fools by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't toy with me maaan. This better be the real deal, yeah, I see that date. It would just be too cruel for something this cool to be crushed by being a april fools joke.

  24. Anyone remember crystal radio? by davidwr · · Score: 1

    Yet Another Example of Wireless Power Transmission.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_radio_receive r

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    1. Re:Anyone remember crystal radio? by mikiN · · Score: 1

      More like Yet Another Wireless Novelty.
      Go figure the acronym.

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  25. how dare you by fermion · · Score: 4, Funny

    post a real story on april fools day! We barely expect legitimate stories the rest of the year, much less on April 1. Next thing you know stories will be edited to meet standard English requirements.

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    1. Re:how dare you by smash · · Score: 2, Funny
      Dude, this story was posted on april fools day, to fool those who think it was an april fools into posting crap like "april fools" and "slashdot is so not worth reading until monday", etc..

      It's the thinking man's april fools story of the day :D

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    2. Re:how dare you by Garse+Janacek · · Score: 1

      A real April Fool's Day post: "slashdot announced today that they're implementing a heuristic algorithm to detect and screen all duplicate submissions. And they're hiring a proofreader." Hee. It's funny because it's a lie...

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  26. won't somebody think of the... by megamerican · · Score: 2, Funny

    Without wires, the price of copper will drop. What are all of those copper thieves going to do for money now? Maybe now I'll be able to legally melt all of my pennies again.

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  27. Yeah, my first thought too by Weaselmancer · · Score: 1

    At least it's a Sunday and I'm not at work trying to kill time. See you Monday, Slashdot.

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  28. Re:wtf by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Wow, are you guys not even trying? I mean, that's just freakin obvious!


    You've been had. How embarrassing is it to broadcast it to the world?

  29. It should be noted by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 1

    That to the best of my knowledge CNN doesn't do April Fools stuff. So anything linked on CNN is most likely real, unless they manage to get duped.

  30. To recap by slickwillie · · Score: 4, Funny

    Let's see. We have:

    Power over Ethernet.
    Ethernet over power.

    Now we can have Ethernet over Power over Wireless over Ethernet over Power over ....

      I think we are almost there.

    1. Re:To recap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The cool part will be the Linux Userspace Power Driver, which allows you to encapsulate power and route it through any other device.

    2. Re:To recap by The_mad_linguist · · Score: 1

      And remember, knowledge is power.

  31. Disgusting. by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 1

    A lot of Slashdot readers didn't listen in Physics class.

    1. Re:Disgusting. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hope you are talking about the ones that are saying this is impossible.

      We have been transmitting power for years, it's called radio.

      If you look at thier website, they are talking about _tiny_ ammounts of current over fairly short distances.

      I don't know if this specific product is an April first joke, but it certainly is not impossible. Limited power over limited ranges is not only possible, it has already been done.

    2. Re:Disgusting. by CableModem · · Score: 1

      It's definitely short distances; TFA says it's about 3 ft.

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  32. Lifetime by evilviper · · Score: 5, Funny

    Pacemakers, defibrillators, and the like require surgery to replace dead batteries. But with a built-in Powercast receiver, those batteries could last a lifetime.

    The batteries already last a lifetime!

    As in: when they die, you die.
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    1. Re:Lifetime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "The batteries already last a lifetime! As in: when they die, you die."

      What does that say about what the powercast receiver will do when the battery dies?

      I'm suddenly hesistant about the future ability to hookup a powercast receiver to charge my cell phone... if it ends up killing me when the cell phone battery dies...

      Nah. It's April 1st anyway...

  33. Thank Blimey! by zmollusc · · Score: 1

    I have only read the summary, but I am overjoyed by this fantastic new development! Batteries that could last a lifetime! Yippee! I am fed up with laptop and cellphone batteries losing capacity after a couple of years.

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    1. Re:Thank Blimey! by Nitewing98 · · Score: 1

      Great now we can blow up laptops by remote control! What a great joke to play on your friends! Wait until they *THINK* their laptop battery is low, then refill it wirelessly and watch the fun (and flames) begin!

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    2. Re:Thank Blimey! by Devistater · · Score: 1

      Has nothing to do with that. Thats a problem from the technological limitations of the battery cycle lifetimes This technology (like TFA says) allows such things as charging your cell phone while you sit at your desk, while its in your pocket.

  34. Sonicare on steroids? by really? · · Score: 1

    My toothbrush has been charged wirelessly for years. So, they just cranked up the power? Hmmm

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    1. Re:Sonicare on steroids? by compro01 · · Score: 1

      My toothbrush has been charged wirelessly for years. So, they just cranked up the power? Hmmm

      not quite. what that kind of wireless charger uses is inductive coupling, using coils and using a magnetic field to induce a current in device's coil.

      this method uses radio waves, which is a more interesting trick and works over a longer range (inductive charging is limited to a few inches at most with reasonably-sized coils).

      still, this isn't delivering an enormous amount of power yet. about enough to drive a cellphone charger (a few volts and a few hundred milliamps). still useful, but not enough to run anything major off.

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    2. Re:Sonicare on steroids? by benplaut · · Score: 1

      You have one of those new-fangled manual toothbrushes, don't you?

  35. So we can mooch off of our neighbors elec. bill?? by FreshDiggz · · Score: 0

    This has to be a joke. Wireless power?? anyone with fundamental knowledge of electronics would see that something like this cant be possible. Current is a flow of electrons which need a high and a low potential to flow. And where would these electrons come from when say, situated in someones heart closed off to any sort of source for renewal of flow. I am certain this is made up, but if its not, it truly is revolutionizing, not only to the world of commerce, but to the world of physics.

  36. Double Entendre? by Roger+Wilcox · · Score: 2, Funny

    I've got an idea:

    Lets take a ridiculous sounding true story and then wait until April Fools to post it. No one will believe it, but the joke is still on them!

  37. Wireless power ALREADY a reality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If wireless power didn't exist, RFID tags wouldn't work. This sounds like nothing more than a high-powered RFID reader without the information-transmitting part.

    In other words, if it's an April Fools joke, it's not a very good one.

    dom

    1. Re:Wireless power ALREADY a reality by jimmydevice · · Score: 1

      If energy was free and it didn't cook you of give you cancer, it's a great idea.

      Tesla is pissed, and spinning.

    2. Re:Wireless power ALREADY a reality by Faylone · · Score: 1

      But if we hook a generator up to his grave, wouldn't that be free energy?

  38. Re:wtf by neoform · · Score: 1

    more obvious than the p-p-powerbook?

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  39. Umm: Microwave? by Irvu · · Score: 2, Informative

    Microwave power transmission has been a reality since at least the 60's and is still in use today (just don't get in the way :). See Das Vikipediem for more info. I believe also that Nikolai Tesla did some little work in this area again see El Viki

    Don't get me wrong I applaud any technology the size of a dime that can be made for $5 and transmit power safely for our nifty home devices and pacemakers but, due respect to CNN's science guys I ain't about to go out and buy Powercast's stock just yet. Especially since the most common use of bradcast power (the Radarange) nd medical tech (pacemakers) are rumoured not to get along together.

  40. Cool by PoprocksCk · · Score: 1

    But is it worth all the shocks?

    1. Re:Cool by RedElf · · Score: 1

      MEDIC! Prepare the defibrillator...we're losing this one!

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  41. I wish for you to reply for a business oppotunity by jimmydevice · · Score: 4, Funny

    I would like to invest in your development of this super power source. This requires a private arrangement. My company, IM-krook LTD has reviewed your patent and find it valid. IM-krok will be willing to fund the progjct for $40,000,000 Million dollars. USA. We will need a bank deposit number and credit card numbers with pins to verify your sincerity^w^w^w^w. You will receive these funds underlegal claims; all legal documents will be carefully worked out to ensure a risky free transfer. I am willing to pay a generous management fee as well as appreciation as soon as this transaction is financialy sponcored & completed by you. I have all the details. All correspondences will be via email, for now. The funds in question are quite large. I will expect a straight answer from you. Yes or no. If yes, Kindly furnish me with your personal information which must includ your direct cell phone and fax number, your address and company name, then lets work out the modalities from there Thanks and God bless you, Mr. David Yong. Phone: (44) 7024097815

  42. disco lights... by CrAlt · · Score: 1

    only problem with leaching the am power is that his lights would get dimmer and brighter with the changes in the amplitude of the signal. Also I dont think the fence would be insulated from the ground. So all that flickering power would be sent right down the fence polls in to the ground. I call BS on this one...

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  43. One teany tiny drawback by Tablizer · · Score: 0

    cancer

    1. Re:One teany tiny drawback by Falladir · · Score: 1

      This is probably redundant as you've been modded down, but there's no indication that low-frequency (below visible) radiation has anything to do with cancer.

      (correct me if I'm wrong)

  44. Efficiency by Mark_MF-WN · · Score: 1
    So you're trying to compare the efficiency of fluorescent bulbs versus incandescent to ... what? The idea here is mostly to power things that are running on batteries now. Anytime that you can replace batteries with grid power, even at low efficiencies, you're already ahead. And of course, all the devices that are simply impractical if they have to be plugged in or loaded up with bulky batteries.

    Besides, no one ever said that environmentalism and conservation meant that you have to live a shitty life without any conveniences. Actually, some people do say that, but that's because they're ignorant white trash that fear change (ie: conservatives). Conservation is about make the best use of resources, not living in a cave and trying to pretend that technology doesn't exist. One of the big reasons that it's so important to look for ways to save power is so that there will be power there for new uses like this. Save a few watts by replacing your incandescents and you'll have that much more power available when you want to run an mp3 player the size of a matchbook that drives wireless earbud headphones... or a headphone implant that lives in your skull. But if you've squandered all of the world's energy resources in order to power your conventional SUV just so that you wont have to face the indignity of buying an electric one that's cheaper, more reliable, and more powerful ... well, then you deserve what you'll get, which will be to have to walk to the commuter trainstation (once you can no longer afford to power a personal vehicle at all) and wait with no mp3 player implant in your skull, for a ride to a shitty job that is barely worth doing because there are no natural resources left to drive the economy and so everyone has to work in the service industry for the two dozen or so people that own all the land and are masters of a new feudal system.

    1. Re:Efficiency by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Correct me if I'm wrong ... But laptops are still going to have batteries. You'll either end up with a system where you power your laptop and charge your battery with wireless power (with additional inefficiencies) Or you'll be running on wireless power when possible, as opposed to your battery or plugged directly into the wall. - thus not really making much of a difference, and not eliminating the waste of making the battery itself.

    2. Re:Efficiency by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not quite. This thing is aimed at being used to RECHARGE batteries, not replace them. Thus, you get both the inefficiency of batteries and the inefficiency of "broadcasted" energy.

  45. even better by Anubis350 · · Score: 1

    Make it one we had as an April fools joke *last* year, then ppl will cry "dupe" too. It's actually really funny if you think about it: the only real story thatll prolly get posted today, it's an (almost) unbelieveable breakthrough that's been made fun of on this day in the past, and everyone will gloss over it as an april fools gag...

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  46. wireless power? by Shanzem · · Score: 1

    can confirm, this is Accurate, via CNN although.. im still spectical

  47. This is actually actually real, here's the patent by Tatarize · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://assignments.uspto.gov/assignments/q?db=pat& pat=7027311

      Total Assignments: 2
    Patent #:7027311
    Issue Dt: 04/11/2006
    Application #: 10966880
    Filing Dt: 10/15/2004
    Publication #:US20050104453
    Pub Dt:05/19/2005
    Inventors:Timm A. Vanderelli, John G. Shearer, John R. Shearer
    Title:

    METHOD AND APPARATUS FOR A WIRELESS POWER SUPPLY

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  48. Slashdot editors didn't listen in Physics class. by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 1

    Agreed. If the FCC allowed the company to transmit 1 Watt, which I doubt, then the power would immediately spread throughout the room and beyond. There is no way to keep the power focused unless both the sending and receiving antenna is close to the size of one wavelength, at least, an unacceptable size. And it would certainly not be acceptable to focus the power, because of concerns about health. (At 900 MHz, the wavelength is 33.4 centimeters, about 1 foot. If you don't live in the U.S., you may need to know that the FCC is the U.S. government agency that regulates electromagnetic transmissions.)

    Question: If this is an April Fools joke, it is the most elaborate one I've seen. Is it a joke or is it fraud? I can't imagine Philips allowing the company name to be used to advertise an April Fools joke.

    It's a tragedy when otherwise intelligent people play video games instead of learning about the world around them.

  49. Philips not Phillips by KrayzieKyd · · Score: 1

    Anyone else care to mention that the submitter of this article spelled Philips incorrectly?

  50. SimCity 2000 by Fissure_FS2 · · Score: 2, Funny

    But... the microwave power plant shouldn't be available until around 2028; that's what the strategy guide said!

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  51. Like Tesla! by sqwishy · · Score: 1

    The Tesla coil can do this too. It didn't work the same and It was just a lot more dangerous, but I say that the guys who said, "If you had asked me seven months ago if this was possible, I would have said, 'Are you dreaming?", didn't do their homework. Its very possible, not realistic, but possible!

  52. Re:wtf by moosesocks · · Score: 1

    Startups should take note that performing any sort of legitimate press-release on April Fools day will completely destroy any credibility you may or may not have.

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  53. Sonicare toothbrush: Induction, not transmission by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 1

    The Sonicare toothbrush uses induction, not electromagnetic transmission. The little plastic tower on which you set the toothbrush is the primary of a transformer. The secondary of the transformer is in the toothbrush. The primary and secondary must be very close to allow the transfer of power (or the frequency must be high).

    Neither induction or electromagnetic transmission allow the transfer of power over significant distance around people, because of the possibility that humans could be in the way.

    Normal radio waves involve only microwatts of power, too little to power most electronic devices, which require milliwatts or watts.

  54. Actually, I dont think it is an april fools joke: by absentmindedjwc · · Score: 3, Informative

    I am not too sure that this is an april fools joke... as an april fools joke normally only falls on April 1st.... I seen this on digg over a week ago. It was on multiple sites, from CNN Money, to CNet reviews...

    http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-12760_7-6676861-1.htm l?tag=promo

    and this one is from January...
    http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-12760_7-9673092-5.htm l?tag=txt

    check out the company page at powercastco.com

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  55. Government-confiscated research ... by powertobeyourbest · · Score: 0

    wow, it's taken this long for Tesla's (U.S.)government-confiscated research papers to finally see the light...what's next ? device to harness the earth's 'free-energy' ?

    1. Re:Government-confiscated research ... by flyneye · · Score: 1

      What was never written down,let alone copyrighted,can't be confiscated.
      Along with the sympathetic resonance amplifier,physical presence switching and the anti constupation platform,power transmitted wirelessly through the ground(from teslas perspective)is lost.

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  56. Old science, new engineering. by CrazyJim1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "If you had asked me seven months ago if this was possible, I would have said, 'Are you dreaming? Have you been smoking something?'" says Govi Rao

    I thought this was common knowledge 10 years ago, just not the engineering side.

    1. Re:Old science, new engineering. by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 1

      The basic physics was common knowledge since the first germanium crystal radios, and since Tesla's work. The engineering side of a cheap and efficient receiver has always been difficult. There's a major mistake in the little blurb in The Fine Article, though. The reflections off the wall do not change the frequencies of the transmitted waves: they do smear the shape of the waves, and mess up the phases of the components, and make it more difficult to tune the receiver to recover the power efficiently. 70% efficiency in such a device would be quite amazing: I'd love to see if they measured it correctly, and didn't cook the numbers the same way Microsoft cooks their sales results for Vista.

  57. I'm actually taking Slashdot seriously today by istartedi · · Score: 1

    Haha! Made you look. April fools. Buh-bye. See you Tuesday. By then, all this stupid crap should have worked its way off the front page.

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    1. Re:I'm actually taking Slashdot seriously today by botkiller · · Score: 1

      Even if crap like this could be made at this time, I wouldn't want it powering my hearing aide... seriously, let's beam some microwaves DIRECTLY INTO MY BRAIN!

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    2. Re:I'm actually taking Slashdot seriously today by CrazyJim1 · · Score: 1

      let's beam some microwaves DIRECTLY INTO MY BRAIN!

      It's Cancering time!

    3. Re:I'm actually taking Slashdot seriously today by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yey for WiFi and cell phones!

  58. Re:wtf by moogs · · Score: 1

    Sigh.... The tagging beta isn't helping either. Some new kid might click on /., and before dude even has time to get excited, he sees "aprilfools" "someponything", eg...

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  59. That would be awesome by game+kid · · Score: 1

    It'll be a great backup to my TV over internet over TV service!

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  60. Interesting. In my opinion, a frivolous patent. by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 0

    The U.S. Patent Office during the Bush administration has been starved for funds. The issuance of a patent means little, because those who want corruption want frivolous patents. A patent, even if eventually ruled invalid, can intimidate competitors.

    Notice that Powercast LLC is in the same small town as the "inventors".

    Perhaps the patent is for something that really does transmit power. However, the laws of physics prevent the use that is advertised, in my opinion.

    1. Re:Interesting. In my opinion, a frivolous patent. by Tatarize · · Score: 1

      A small LLC probably would be in the same place as the inventors.

      There is no such law of physics which makes this impossible. Reportedly Tesla has a method for doing it. And if you really wanted you could do this via induction either using short range or a hell of a lot of power.

      There is nothing about the laws of physics which require a wire to transmit power, anybody viewing lightning has pretty good evidence of this.

      I've given two good examples of this same sort of thing existing, how or if they did it is an interesting question but I doubt the laws of physics give a rat's ass about your opinion.

      When we get to play with it, we will be convinced. Until then I'll remain rather agnostic about it. Though the ability is rather endless. I mean, it would be a revolution in computer technology as well as little things like solar power collection, UAV tech and other fun gadgets. I could see putting a broadcast box on your house aiming up and having a fleet of little RC helicopters flying around and doing security sweeps. If it pans out, it will change the world.

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    2. Re:Interesting. In my opinion, a frivolous patent. by synaptic · · Score: 1

      > When we get to play with it, we will be convinced. Until then
      > I'll remain rather agnostic about it. Though the ability is
      > rather endless. I mean, it would be a revolution in computer
      > technology as well as little things like solar power collection,
      > UAV tech and other fun gadgets. I could see putting a broadcast
      > box on your house aiming up and having a fleet of little RC
      > helicopters flying around and doing security sweeps. If it pans
      > out, it will change the world.

      Change the world indeed.. if it pans out:

      There will be little fleets of black helicopters alright. You call
      them RC though I think the professional designation is UAV. The
      telescreens are already in place. The RFIDs are here to help us.

      It's for your safety. We need to protect against terrorists. Oh,
      the 10,000 third-world nationals that snuck over the border last
      night? Those are just hard working, good-hearted people trying to
      make a living. Oh, and you're a bigot.

      or, from another angle:

      This would also make the stuff of great autonomous robotics. I
      personally welcome our forthcoming technological overlords.

    3. Re:Interesting. In my opinion, a frivolous patent. by GovCheese · · Score: 1

      Great, more emanations flying around the everyday environment to worry about crashing into my fragile DNA. I don't worry about it enough to don my aluminium foil hat, but at the very least I back away from my microwave when that thing of evil is humming along. At least it has a door to close.

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    4. Re:Interesting. In my opinion, a frivolous patent. by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 1

      Don't forget that Tesla was mentally ill.

    5. Re:Interesting. In my opinion, a frivolous patent. by Walt+Dismal · · Score: 1
      Don't forget that Tesla was mentally ill.

      All the best mad scientists are crazy. You have to think out of the box to make some breakthroughs, sounding out the holes in conventional theory. As Apple said, Think Different.

      They said Einstein was crazy, and they were wrong! They said that Galileo was crazy, and they were wrong! They said that Bush is crazy...

      ... crickets ... more crickets ... lots of crickets ... okay, 2 outta 3 is enough for me.

    6. Re:Interesting. In my opinion, a frivolous patent. by markov_chain · · Score: 1

      I could see putting a broadcast box on your house aiming up and having a fleet of little RC helicopters flying around and doing security sweeps.

      It sounds nice in concept, but the numbers just don't seem feasible at this point. An average electric-powered model plane with, say, a 6 foot wing span, uses a 1 horsepower electric motor. I have a hard time seeing how it would be efficient to beam this much power to the flyer. Heck, even making it work would be tough, since it would need to be aimed, all of the electronics would need to be shielded, and it would probably need an autopilot in case the remote control channel is drowned out by the power beam.

      The most practical route to making something like this work is probably miniaturization and better batteries, or even just plain fuel. It is amazing how much energy fuel contains compared to the best batteries: check this table of energy densities.

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  61. for a quick charge... by nanosquid · · Score: 1

    For a quick charge, just put your cell phone into the microwave.

  62. Re:little box.. (OT) by Knuckles · · Score: 1

    Anybody else getting this huge Microsoft ad box floating over the stories and comments? Annoys the hell out of me. Way to go MS, this really makes you much more likable, I can't wait to purchase your ... oh, never mind, I can't remember what it was.

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  63. Re:This is actually actually real, here's the pate by Firehed · · Score: 1

    John Shearer? Isn't that the Video Professor?

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  64. Re:Nothing for you to see here. Please move along. by Devistater · · Score: 1

    Because no one who responded saying this was april fools or implying it actualy RTFA. Shows you what small minority percentage of people actually RTFA at all, let alone before they wisely comment on it. Pretty sad eh?

  65. Re:Slashdot editors didn't listen in Physics class by Devistater · · Score: 1

    It isn't. Its a CNN article dated 30th, and someone else dug up an article about this from a while back. On a side note, pretty much anything dated 30th is before any international dateline of april fools. (i.e. you might see stuff about April Fools on the 31st of march since some places are already at april 1st.

  66. Ohmygawd ! by udippel · · Score: 1

    Thought it was an April's Fool.
    Wrong.
    The fools sit - as so often - in the USPTO. They have granted, I repeat *granted* the following claim 1 of US7,027,311:

    "1. An apparatus for a wireless power supply comprising: means for receiving a range of RF radiation across a collection of frequencies; and means for converting the RF radiation across the collection of frequencies into DC, the converting means includes an absorbing mechanism which is resonant for a desired band of RF spectrum."

    http://patft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=P TO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2F srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=7027311.PN.&OS=PN/7027 311&RS=PN/7027311

    What a fscking invention !

    Congratulations, Nguyen; Matthew V., for a witty examination !

  67. NOT april fools. by Devistater · · Score: 3, Informative

    Official webpage: http://www.powercastco.com/ Also, they were picked "Best Emerging Technology at CES 2007" Theres other links availible on their webpage (and from google), and NONE of the source articles are dated April 1st.

  68. Simple equation by postmortem · · Score: 1

    Last 60 yrs have shown us: No Tesla = No wireless power.

  69. Not an April Fools by mustafap · · Score: 3, Interesting


    This has already been reported. There is nothing new here, really: it's just an efficient transformer.

    My concern is just how efficient will it be? We waste huge amounts of energy already with directly coupled chargers that are left plugged in and powered when not in use. This is just a *less* efficient version of the same.

    So, anyone have any figures for efficiencies compared to direct connection chargers?

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  70. Please have your wordings right: by thrill12 · · Score: 1

    it's Philips (Royal Electronics B.V.) - not Phillips (the screws).

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  71. I'll do it!! by commodoresloat · · Score: 1

    But you have to act out a skit from monty python first and send me the videotape.

  72. no fool by marcello_dl · · Score: 1

    babelfish this in the meantime, then. Inventors working my themselves discovering amazing things and getting basically fought. I had seen the related video on national tv this ain't an april fool.

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    1. Re:no fool by marcello_dl · · Score: 1

      Sorry! correct link is this

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  73. Re:Nothing for you to see here. Please move along. by sixtyniner · · Score: 1

    Not to mention that the original article is actually dated March 30 2007: 7:08 AM EDT. So either 1)it's not fake or 2) April Fools day is now preceded by March Fools day

  74. Wireless power?? by davidbrammer · · Score: 1

    Before I start I do believe that this is in fact an April Fool... When I first read it I thought...cool that would be a good idea.. and then moved on. Hang on a second I though, hold the phone... my brain started to clear into reality (ok I've just woken up, this only 3 hours sleep).

    Firstly, if this was really possible than why have we not seem self powered radios on the market, after all they do use radio signals and these signals are passed through the coils that are technically the instrument of energy conversion...mmmmmmmm...

    Secondly, now this I'm a little foggy on, I've not done electronics for some years but I believe that coils are only about 80-90% efficient and therefore the small amount of energy present within a radio signal is reduced dramatically before we start with any form of other charging circuit that would be required, and these circuits would also be quite in-efficient...mmmmm

    Third, just think about the efficiency of radio signals, the further away you from the source the less energy is available... again I'm not sure about this but I think it involves some form of inverse square law or something, meaning that you only have to travel a short distance before you are effectively out of range, think about how hard it is to get a good wireless signal on your router at home, walls and other objects get in the way to sap the signals strength..

    I'm sure that in the future we will develop devices that are so efficient, and not require a super cooled environment to work in, that energy can be extracted from the ether, however I don't believe that time is now.

    This article has been carefully written so that those with knowledge would engage their brains into figuring out how it would work (tech geeks like me) and go at a tangent considering this rather than considering a slightly bigger picture. I was also delivered at such a time, and this is the clear bit, at a time when they knew that I would be half asleep and be drawn in by the scam....paaa, it didn't work, I hope ... lol

    1. Re:Wireless power?? by Charcharodon · · Score: 1
      I always figured the /. crowd would be a little more well read on tech subjects, but from the number of responses that think this is an April 1st joke is astounding. They've been talking about this technology for more than a year now. Popular Science had a blurb on it last month. None of the devices charge over large distances, though they did mention that theoretically they should absorb any radio waves in the air. Most had to be place either on or with in a few inches of the recharge station for the recharge to work. While that doesn't sound terribly usefull to some essentially all you have to do is chuck your device onto the charger without plugging it in. The other advantage is that we would finally have a "universal" charger since there would be no plugs. The one article that I did find pretty facinating, though now I can't remember where I saw it, they had the "charging station" as the entire desk top. The signal was only strong enough to work with devices within an inch of the surface, but what they were showing off was the fact that you could place your devices where ever on the desk and they would be powered. They had a lamp and a few other items.

      Still think this is an hoax, Google it, you'll find it to be otherwise.

    2. Re:Wireless power?? by sprzepiora · · Score: 1

      Self powered radios are a reality, but there are not sold because frankly they suck. All you need is an antenna, coil capicator, product detector (germanium diode, or razor blade) hook it up to a set of crystal earphones and you can listen to the radio. just do a search on google for "fox hole radio". It is what soldiers in WW2 used.

  75. But it isn't power efficient by BlueCoder · · Score: 1

    Sure you could have a power station that only broadcast radio energy when a suitable device comes in range but even with that I'd guess at least 95% of the power is wasted. That's fine for medical implants and other devices where the wireless power transfer is a necessity rather than an option. But for conventional devices like cell phones and mice and keyboards, your burning a lot of fossil fuel just for a little convenience.

  76. Re:Nothing for you to see here. Please move along. by Devistater · · Score: 1

    I noticed that. The parent I was replying to had that in his comment, and in another comment in this story I mentioned it myself :)
    Anyway, yeah, this is real. It was even shown at CES 2007 and chosen as some best something or other of the show.

  77. Best April Fools Joke Ever by Proofof.+Chaos · · Score: 1

    I'm getting a kick outta all the physics challenged people who assume this is an April Fools post.

  78. Looked at the datasheet by mako1138 · · Score: 1
    On their website, you can sign up to receive some docs by email. The "datasheet" devotes one page each to the transmitter and receiver chips.

    The transmitter is a 12-pin package; mostly ground pins, plus serial clock/data, vdd, and rf out. It operates on 5V.

    WPT series Powercaster(TM) modules are programmable frequency
    sources for use in RF power harvesting applications. The modules
    encapsulate proprietary algorithms which extend the effective
    range of power transmission without increasing average power. Numerous
    standard units are available, with customization available
    upon request.
    The WPT9066 module is optimized for operation in the 902-928MHz
    ISM band. A highly accurate and stable oscillator centered at
    905.8MHz is utilized to minimize wander, distortion, or other ill effects
    that could cause interference with other devices. Custom frequency
    ranges are available upon request.


    The receiver chip is a four pin package with rf in, gnd, dc out, gnd. It claims 70% efficiency, no external components required, 1uW power consumption, and is available in voltages from 1.2 to 6.0 volts. It operates in the 900 MHz and 2.4 GHz bands.

    But what's the available power? The health document says "Of the many consumer applications for Powercast technology, the highest-power transmitter identified was just under 2 Watts." An isotropic radiator will produce an energy density of P / (4 * pi * R^2), and an isotropic receiver has aperture lambda^2 / (4 * pi). At 900 MHz, with a distance of 1m, we're talking about 1.5 mW. Directional antennas will raise (or lower) that figure a bit. Close the distance and the power goes up.

    I wonder how they minimize the interference these things must create.

    1. Re:Looked at the datasheet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, it certainly solves my requirements for getting on the amateur 33cm and 13cm bands!

      Here, I was thinking that I'd have to shell out a few hectobucks for transverters from
      the low bands, and now all I have to do is go buy this little device. QRZ DX?

      How do they minimize interference? Simple - use non-isotropic radiators :-)

      The lead article intimated that they had FCC approval - I suspect that what they mean
      is that they're operating in a couple of the ISM bands, and think they'll get by on
      that, until the mean old FCC tells them that they're making too much RF racket.

  79. Energy waster by FridayBob · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Up to 70% efficient means at least a 30% energy loss; when recharging millions of little devices, that all adds up to a lot of waste. In virtually all cases, recharging the old fashioned way is likely to be better for the environment. However, it looks set to become so popular, that I wonder if we'll be given the choice. I hate wires too, and the convenience of this invention is obvious, but it also has a down side.

  80. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 0, Troll

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  81. aprilsfools by dominious · · Score: 1

    actually the whole thing is an aprils fools joke:
    since the DHS got the master key for DNS http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/03/31/17 25221
    they changed all the domains(cnet, cnn, etc) to point to false information for the 1st of April...and

    rm /bin/login

  82. Re:Actually, I dont think it is an april fools jok by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Has one one ever seen the film The Quiet Earth ? l for one want to survive. Now just to get the timing right before l top myself.

  83. Bizarre mechanism? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You put this device in the corner of a large room. It consumes X watts of power. You place an item one meter distant along the wall to the left. The efficiency rating is 70%, so the device should receive 0.7 watts. You then place another item one meter distant along the wall to the right. Does this also receive 0.7 watts? Does the first receiver absorb waves that would otherwise have been received by the second? Does the unit sense the reception and boost its output in response?

    I can see this making sense if it's a 100W device that can power several 1W items. But that is hardly a 70% efficiency unless you stick it in a box made of receivers.

  84. Re:Nothing for you to see here. Please move along. by Kyle_Katarn-(ISF) · · Score: 1

    Actually, it's not. They faked the date. But look at the URL :P

  85. It's been done (for very small values of watts) by stoneguy · · Score: 1

    Back in the days of the CK-722 and 2N107 transistors (mid 1950's), there was a schematic published for a crystal radio (using diode) with 1-stage audio amp that self-powered off the antenna input.

  86. Re:Nothing for you to see here. Please move along. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I'm assuming that's just because it's from the April 1st issue:

    From the April 1, 2007 issue

    There's references from back in January, at least, also (I couldn't be arsed to dig any deeper to see how far back I could go.)
  87. Problems with wireless by aridhol · · Score: 1

    A slight problem with wireless power is illustrated here: http://www.bugbash.net/comic/3.html

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  88. Re: Static field vs propagating wave by Migraineman · · Score: 1

    Time to hit the books again. There are two ways to couple power: static field coupling (i.e. like a transformer) and propagating-wave coupling (i.e. radio.)

    A static field may be purely E or purely H, but it doesn't propagate. Transformers are the simplest example. There's a magnetic field generated by one inductor that's coupled to another inductor through a magnetic (H) field. There's no electric field to speak of. That field won't move ... at all. The physics says it can't.

    To get a propagating field, you have to have both E and H components. When you have both E and H, you can calculate the Poynting Vector to figure out which direction your wave will go. For the link-challenged, that'd be S = E x B where the "x" is the vector cross product. Yes, do the right-hand-rule thing now.

    Your AM radio antenna is called a "ferrite bar antenna" and couples energy to/from the H-field component of the propagating wave. There is an alternating magnetic field component, but it's not alone. Don't believe me? Here's an example of a guy who replaced his ferrite bar antenna with other types, including a quarter-wave long-wire whip. Whip antennas are E-field devices, and require an E-field component of a radio wave to function. Give it a try.

  89. Re:wtf by lolocaust · · Score: 1

    It's the ultimate April Fools prank!

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  90. This should not be patented by kurt555gs · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is an example of how broken our patent system is. Prior art goes back to Tesla, where over 100 years ago he transmitted 100 Watts of AC power 100 miles and recovered 97 Watts of energy. Secondly all RFID chips use this to power themselves. There is NOTHING innovative or novel in this device and it never ever should have been granted a patent.

    I really wonder how far our world could have advanced in the last 200 years if patents either didn't exist or were structured in such a way that they were much more limited in scope.

    Another bad day for us for 17 years.

    Cheers

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  91. Transmission of power but at the picowatt level. by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 1

    I made a mistake below when I said that radio transmissions are at the "microwatt" level. I meant microvolt. Microvolts times microamps equals picowatts.

  92. APRIL FOOLS! n/t by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    sheesh.

  93. Already here - eCoupled by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fun there is already a company with this tech and selling it - ecoupled. They developed it quite a few years ago and have the patents.

    http://www.ecoupled.com/

  94. Christmas tree lights by fizzup · · Score: 1

    If the range really is three feet, then I want to hang a transmitter in the middle of my Christmas tree, and clip on a bunch of LEDs attached to receivers on the branches. Those Christmas tree light wires are a pet peeve.

    1. Re:Christmas tree lights by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Though a good idea, it would make for one expensive set of lights. From the article the reciever costs in the region of $5 presumably with a patent royalty on top of that. If you wanted a set of 40 lights, that would be a cost of $200 for the power receivers on all the light, factor in the cost of the rest of the materials and manufacturing costs and I would think the end price would be closer to $400.

    2. Re:Christmas tree lights by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This also is a patent already since ~20 years. There are also patents (ABB) using wirelss power at a bit higher power levels (and much lower frequencies: LW radio has been around for "centuries" so its proven to be harmless) for sensors and actuators and distances of several meters in industrial applications , where it makes real sense to solve problems which cannot be solved otherwise.

      In the home: Never! Such fund raising companies have been around for some years now burning a hell lot of money ...if they go public it always means: Money is gone we need some new one...so please dont give it to them unless you would burn it anyway otherwise.

  95. Tesla Coils any one? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tesla was able to transmit large amounts of energy through the air about 100yrs ago. That being said, yes we have the technology to do something of this sort, the question is how many of us want Tesla's Static-electic discharger's ( lightning emiters )in our cell phones, No matter how cool it would look.

  96. Re:little box.. (OT) by Miseph · · Score: 1

    Nope, I use AdBlock plus.

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  97. Re:little box.. (OT) by Knuckles · · Score: 1

    Yeah, I don't because I figure I should at least give /. some ad clicks, but this MS one will drive me to it soon.

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  98. Re:ATTN: SWITCHEURS! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're a moron. Big, big, big moron.

  99. Definitely a frivolous patent, and an old tech. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The patent is frivolous and yet another example of how badly the patent office is screwing up as of late. Looking up the patent, claim 1 reads:

    "1. An apparatus for a wireless power supply comprising: means for receiving a range of RF radiation across a collection of frequencies; and means for converting the RF radiation across the collection of frequencies into DC, the converting means includes an absorbing mechanism which is resonant for a desired band of RF spectrum."

    The examiner stated reason for allowance is that the prior art did not discolse a resonance. For all of you out there who are not rf engineers, using resonance in an rf circuit is about as novel as using nails in housebuilding. I think you would be hard pressed to find an rf design that did not include at least one (intentional) resonance. It would suprise the hell out of me if Tesla's system was not based on a resonance.

    As for the "invention", if it is even remotely related to what they are showing in their patent then people have tried this before. They talk of 1.2MHz frequency, which means that if you are within a few hundred meters of the power source then you are using quasi-static (magnetic in this case) coupling. Its just a big air-core transformer, making magnetic field in the air with one coil and and recovering with another. If you get the two coils close together the efficiency can be good, seperate them by a bit and you'll be burning most of your power in the transmitter coil and whatever other bits of metal you have in your house that are close to the transmitter.

  100. Does no one remember Gmail? by typicallyterrific · · Score: 1

    Everyone made due with the 5 megs Hotmail threw your way; Yahoo, when paid, would give you some 10 megs?

    Hundred meg mailboxes were things to be feared by sysadmins and only existed if you worked in a large company or hosted your own.

    Then all of the sudden Gmail came out on April Fools with a 1 gig mailbox. Everyone sorta giggled and assumed they were joking, too!

  101. OY F'ING VEY RTFA by Tatarize · · Score: 1

    This chip would make the project a reality. I understand that at present it is completely infeasible. If it were, I would have a bunch of cool robotic helicopters flying around my house. I just said that with this little power receiver chip it would be completely feasible. If nothing captures the RC power then nothing uses that power.

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  102. Nikola Tesla Invented this already by neurosine · · Score: 1

    I think Tesla demonstrated this technology on a large scale in New York in the late 1800's/early 1900's. It never got implemented because sending this much energy through things, like brains, can lead to things like cooked brains. Wireless energy. How very retro. Like stealing ideas for profit. Some ideas never grow old.

  103. This is actually actually actually real, video by Tatarize · · Score: 1
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  104. This is what my final engineering project was on! by Intocabile · · Score: 1

    What this company has made is a low cost (I assume) rectenna http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rectenna/ and transmitting antenna.

    I only just got it half working this past Friday (the receiving antenna I designed and fabricated was 200MHz off my design frequency of 10.5GHz so it was useless). This technology has been around forever but hasn't been exploited much, it can be found in some of RFID technologies though. The biggest pain is designing the microwave circuits for maximum efficiency which is more of an art then a science. The fact this company has design can adjust itself for different loads is pretty interesting.

    Pretty cool to see this commercialized. Especially after getting questions about the viability and applications of the technology during my final presentation. Maybe I should send the company a resume, I can't imagine they would be too impressed by my project though.

  105. Re:This is actually actually real, here's the pate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's real, and reading the patent was entertaining. They describe harvesting power from broadcast transmissions. "Sample Apparatus 10" is a glorified crystal set like they used to sell at Radio Shack, down to its 1N34 germanium diode detector.

    The April Fool's joke is on the USPTO for accepting this overly broad, non-specific, spurious application. For prior art, search the name "Marconi"!

    The actual April Fools are their investors.

  106. Not Really A Joke by nurb432 · · Score: 1

    All April fools jokes aside, Nikola Tesla DID do this, decades ago.

    Please at least pick someting that isnt real if you are going to do a April 1 joke...

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  107. Not crazy, mentally ill. by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 1

    No, Tesla was mentally ill later in his life, in a way that you would agree was mental illness.

    1. Re:Not crazy, mentally ill. by Walt+Dismal · · Score: 1

      I wonder if it was true organic-based mental illness, or radically disfunctional cognition. As I understand it, personality disorders stem from corrupted belief systems leading to irrational reasoning, whereas organic-based mental illness comes from malfunctioning brain mechanisms, i.e. gone awry for chemical, physiological reasons, or because of infected/invaded tissue. For example, schizophrenia, or Alzheimers, or parasitic diseases. Did Tesla simply step too far out of the mainstream, or was there a disease. I'm not sure I ever saw any discussion of whether there was an autopsy, though that might not have revealed any brain tissue problems or even extended to the brain at that time. My guess is his reasoning systems became corrupted. But who knows what years of exposure to high-frequency energy of uncontrolled kinds did to him.

  108. Super Capacitors producers will make money by WindBourne · · Score: 1

    The simple fact is that if a capacitor combined with this tech can be created cheaply, then it will replace most batteries overnight. Basically, nobody likes changing batteries. But if I can buy batteries for my kid's toys and never have to take them out again until the toy ends (at which point, I get to re-use the "battery"), then I am all over it. And so will other parents.

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  109. OMG It's ALL REAL! by DragonTHC · · Score: 1
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  110. Re:ATTN: SWITCHEURS! by Fordiman · · Score: 1

    Hm. Variations on a theme, eh?

    Ahem.

    Fuck you.

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  111. Environmental issues by JohnPM · · Score: 1

    As a few people have pointed out, using this device will waste an additional 30%+ of the energy used to recharge batteries.

    They will have been working on this product for several years and must have been agonising over the attention that has been focused on global warming and energy efficiency in the last year or so.

    To combat this they have put together a hilarious white paper on the environmental benefits which you can request from their website. My favourite is the solar panel one:


    An Ecologically Friendly
    Alternative to Solar Cells
    Though often hailed as a staple of green power, solar cells can pro-
    duce potentially damaging environmental effects. Chemicals required
    for the production of certain types of solar cells can pose a significant
    threat to manufacturing employees and the ozone if not handled
    properly. Solar cells also contain cadmium, which, as stated above,
    constitutes an environmental disposal hazard
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    . The adoption of the Powercast Wireless Power Platform would diminish these undesirable
    effects by providing a more ecologically sound energy harvesting
    alternative.

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  112. Re:Slashdot editors didn't listen in Physics class by cbacba · · Score: 1

    Note that the difference between an antenna radiating RF power and a transformer primary transferring power to a secondary is whether or not you've got any electric and magnetic fields that are perpendicular to each other to form the EM wave. Going to high frequencies means you get away from the need to close proximity and pig iron cores.

    Just remember that the cnn article is a buncha hype being spewed by the CEO and that in reality, the technology probably has some real limitations. An example MIGHT be a cell-phone charge taking 10 hours instead of 1 hour.

    It's possible that the company might take off and do very well. It may be more likely that it's a waste of investment money.

    It's also very possible that the equipment causes all sorts of interference being that little bit about having crossed electric and magnetic fields may be hard to prevent. It definitely would be double plus ungood were any pacemaker wearers to keel over dead at the same time they were in proximaty to one of these gizmos - regardless of an actual physical effect being in play.

  113. Genius, but got too many zoomies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The guy was freakin' brilliant. But he had some things goign against him:

    Making and playing with toys that are equivalent to crude unshielded magnetrons pushing who knows what power levels over many years, something's bound to affect him sooner or later.

    Then of course being a tech-nerd in his time that wasn't business or socially savvy didn't help his reputation. (His technical knowledge would have upstaged Edison, who had the keen managerial-type business sense not to hire anyone that could steal the show... Funny how Edison got a lot of personal credit for things that were actually acomplished business-wise. (As in mostly bought and licenced. Edison really was smart in that department.) At the same time Tesla was being made a "mad-scientist-fool" for what he was discovering and accomplishing.) Despite some of the more notable and wild concepts/projects, Tesla was also happy to work quietly behind the scenes. Westinghouse got their electric motors/generators and established standards behind today's 110-120V 60Hz grid, while the man who made it happen died broke and penniless.

    Last but not least was Tesla's dry humor. He'd ocassionally test people by giving a little B.S. mixed with fact to see how they'd react. (Which seems pretty common amongst modern techies.) The tech-illiterate people back in his time were unlikely to tell when he was pulling their leg. (Previous accomplishments combined with milking the press while keeping a straight face didn't help the "crazy" reputation.) People today are more likely to get his sense of humor.