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Google Earth Flight Simulator

insidedesign writes "Blogger Marco has recently discovered that the newest version of Google Earth includes a flight simulator. Though simple in comparison to full-blown simulators, Google Earth's is fun and addictive. To get started, press Ctrl+Alt+A for the initial dialog (on OS X, Command+Option+A). Then choose your plane (F16 or SR22) and initial airport. Joysticks are supported; it has even been reported that force feedback works. The game's controls are sensitive so it takes some getting used to. Here are all the available controls. For a quick overview, check out this YouTube video."

187 comments

  1. Might I be the first to say... by thatskinnyguy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    That is freaking AWESOME!

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    1. Re:Might I be the first to say... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      oooo im flying

    2. Re:Might I be the first to say... by jcr · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Not yet, it's not. Google Earth has a long way to go to become a good citizen on the Mac.

      -jcr

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    3. Re:Might I be the first to say... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It sucks pretty badly compared to FlightGear.

    4. Re:Might I be the first to say... by bigstrat2003 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That doesn't make it not awesome, just not as awesome as it could be.

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    5. Re:Might I be the first to say... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Now it makes sense why Google is doing their Street View program. They are also going to make a racing game!

    6. Re:Might I be the first to say... by Bluesman · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's Google's Earth, so the Mac actually has a long way to go to be a good citizen on it.

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    7. Re:Might I be the first to say... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And, what a bitchslap on the Ballmer Gang. Suck on that, chairthrower.

    8. Re:Might I be the first to say... by bazorg · · Score: 1, Interesting
      nah, it's pointless because Mac users are undeserving.

      When Google released Desktop Search for Mac, all I could read on Mac forums was "meh, nothing new compared to Spotlight" "meh, what do we need this for?" "spotlight is prettier", etc.

      The other day, Openoffice.org announced a release candidate native for OS X... all I could read on Mac forums was "this is nice, but it's not really Mac-like", "I'll just save £59 and wait for iWorks 2008", "meh, MS Office is better", etc.

      so, unless Google decides to charge £20 for all its betas as shareware, I don't think that the Mac users will really care. Good for everyone if the folks at google don't waste too much time with OS X native versions and just get the stuff working for those who look at what the software can do instead of what it looks like compared to Steve Jobs' Commandments for iApps.

    9. Re:Might I be the first to say... by bigstrat2003 · · Score: 1

      Your analysis of Mac cultists (they don't even really deserve the title of "zealot" any more...) is spot-on. However, it's good to remember that not all Mac users are a part of the cult of Jobs, and that the GP may not be one of them. Don't lump them all together, etc.

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    10. Re:Might I be the first to say... by jcr · · Score: 2, Informative

      When Google released Desktop Search for Mac, all I could read on Mac forums was "meh, nothing new compared to Spotlight"

      That was because it was nothing new compared to Spotlight.

      What's wrong with google earth, besides trying to muddle through with Qt instead of having a native UI, is that it has a nasty habit of buggering window server memory that it shouldn't be touching. It even has a preference for "safe 3d graphics mode", for heaven's sake, and it still manages to scribble all over the backing stores of other apps' windows.

      I don't know if it's as badly behaved on Windows or Linux, but on the Mac it's not up to what I'd consider a beta level yet. It's fun to play around with, but it's definitely in the "you get what you pay for" category.

      -jcr

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    11. Re:Might I be the first to say... by cortana · · Score: 1

      What's wrong with google earth, besides trying to muddle through with Qt instead of having a native UI, is that it has a nasty habit of buggering window server memory that it shouldn't be touching. Isn't it the display server's job to disallow that from happening in the first place?
    12. Re:Might I be the first to say... by yabos · · Score: 1

      The reason I didn't like Google Desktop Search was because it ran about 3-4 processes in the background all the time that used quite a bit of RAM. Spotlight's only has mds and mdimport which use about 10% of the RAM that Google's processes used. They were using up to 20MB of physical RAM from what I remember which is unacceptable to have going all the time especially when I'm trying to run large programs such as Motor, Mokey or Shake. I don't want all the pageouts that I already get with Motor let along Google's stuff taking up lots of RAM for no reason.

    13. Re:Might I be the first to say... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      The new flight simulator is NOT awesome. There is a HUGE difference between its control input the the flight response, compared to that of a real airplane. So it is worthless in that respect.

      While reasonably anticipating the response to a control input is an important part of real flying, a much more important part is judging the attitude, altitude and airspeed during approach to landing. (After all landing is the __ONLY__ really important flying skill required. Well, there are other ways to screw up but landing is number 1 by a long shot.)

      I have found that the Navigation Mode Flight Control (Ctrl-G) is far more 'realistic', especially when it comes to developing a feeling for attitude, altitude and airspeed from visual inputs during approach to landing. The only major improvement I would like to see here is the ability to use keyboard input to adjust speed rather than the (relatively insensitive) right mouse button.

    14. Re:Might I be the first to say... by IngramJames · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'm reply to THIS parent so that this post floats to the top.

      Call me a karma-whore if you will, but this may save y'all some time.

      The shortcut that worked for ME was CTRL-WINDOWS_BUTTON-A, not ALT.

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    15. Re:Might I be the first to say... by thatskinnyguy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Dude! You're taking this way too seriously! As a guy who had a pilot's license at one time, I know that not even the most sophisticated PC-based flight sims can compare to the real thing. You just have to look at it for what it is: a cool toy.

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    16. Re:Might I be the first to say... by Dogtanian · · Score: 1

      I know that not even the most sophisticated PC-based flight sims can compare to the real thing. Of course, but how does *this* flight simulator compare to the real thing?
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    17. Re:Might I be the first to say... by thatskinnyguy · · Score: 1

      OH MY GOD! I felt like I was actually there!

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  2. Now maybe I should wait until tomorrow to try it by ls671 · · Score: 1

    Or, can Google engine handle the load of being /dotted ? I guess I will wait an hour then try it out since the article just got posted. I will report back ;-)

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  3. Re:Pentagon? by Cervantes · · Score: 5, Funny

    Is it possible to fly the plane into the Pentagon while hitting light poles along the way? It's hard to tell, as soon as you approach the Pentagon things get really fuzzy and 8-bit.
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  4. Terrorism? by German_Dupree · · Score: 5, Funny

    I can just see the U.S. government attacking Google as a "terrorist training ground".

    Everyone knows that if it teaches you to fly an airplane, it's an Islam extremist hotbed.

  5. Another terrorist feature... by jdogalt · · Score: 1

    Now the terrorists won't even have to shell out $$ for MS-flight sim...

    But at least they won't be able to simulate hitting Cheney's house very well.

    Which is of course the first fantasy I'd want to explore with it...

    1. Re:Another terrorist feature... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And they call us haters. Seems to me that most of the real hate is on the left.

    2. Re:Another terrorist feature... by nyekulturniy · · Score: 1

      Good heavens, you can't wait until January 2009?

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    3. Re:Another terrorist feature... by jdogalt · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      What I hate is the hypocrisy of a political party, that tries to crucify Bill Clinton for *blatantly* lying under oath about a consensual blowjob, and then proceeds to lie to the american public about terrorists seeking nuclear weapons (african uranium), to justify a war that has cost a trillion dollars. When that money could have been spent bringing true security, and even food, to *all* of God's children.

      I don't hate the republicans. I fear for their souls.

    4. Re:Another terrorist feature... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You really don't have a clue, do you? I pity you because you apparently enjoy your ignorance.

    5. Re:Another terrorist feature... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How come no one on the right can take a joke? Lighten up a bit.

  6. Re:i can't wait.. by Electrode · · Score: 1

    Or ABC, CBS... hell, even PBS will stoop to that level if they need cash...

  7. This would be a great post for April 1 by saskboy · · Score: 1

    I'd expect this from Slashdot on April First, or Google even, because so many people would think it is a hoax.

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    1. Re:This would be a great post for April 1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Except that it's not exactly an easter egg. It's under the Tools menu. Verifying that it exists is easy: open up Google Earth, use Help/Check for Updates to make sure you have the latest version, and pull open the Tools menu. There it is.

      Also, here are the keyboard controls off Google's website.

      Saying that it was "discovered" makes it sound like it was hidden. It wasn't.

    2. Re:This would be a great post for April 1 by Goaway · · Score: 5, Informative

      Quoting the very page you linked to:

      Once you have entered flight simulator mode for the first time, you can re-enter the mode by choosing Tools > Enter Flight Simulator.

      So no, it's not in the Tools menu by default, and yes, it's an easter egg.

    3. Re:This would be a great post for April 1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You seem to have missed the part where it does not show up under tools until you Control + Alt + A for the first time. Unless you came across it by accident or found out about it from someone else, you wouldn't know it was there. I would say that certainly qualifies as an easter egg.

    4. Re:This would be a great post for April 1 by Purity+Of+Essence · · Score: 1

      Basic flight controls have been in the Google Earth options since the beginning. Under Navigation, right there in plane sight. Groan, but true.

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    5. Re:This would be a great post for April 1 by Bob+Gelumph · · Score: 1

      Did you ever try using that mode?
      It sucked and didn't give you all the degrees of freedom in a fluid way.
      You couldn't even point in an upward angle.

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    6. Re:This would be a great post for April 1 by Purity+Of+Essence · · Score: 1

      Yeah, it wasn't a full blown flight sim or anything, and it had pretty rotten controls, but it still provided me with a lot of harrowing entertainment. And it has the advantage of working at any flight speed and never stalling. The new flight sim is obviously a lot better in every other way and having joystick support is fantastic (if twitchy) as is being able to look around. They just need to make it configurable and add a helicopter mode and I'd be in heaven (or a smoking crater if you don't believe in that sort of thing).

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    7. Re:This would be a great post for April 1 by Fweeky · · Score: 1

      Funny, it was there from the moment I installed the latest beta here.

    8. Re:This would be a great post for April 1 by fbjon · · Score: 1

      Speaking of configurable, does anyone have any idea how to change the default axis assignments in GEarth? It consistently assigns the joystick rudder control to thrust and vice versa for me, which turns flying into quite a circus. The same problem occurs when navigating with joystick in normal view, which is still pretty cool though.

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    9. Re:This would be a great post for April 1 by Purity+Of+Essence · · Score: 4, Informative
      You might try tinkering with one of these files, I'd start with this first:

      %PROGRAMFILES%\Google\Google Earth\res\flightsim\controller\generic.ini

      These others in the same directory seem to be for specific brands of controller:

      genius_maxfighter_f16u.ini
      speed_link_black_hawk.ini
      speed_link_cougar_flightstick.ini

      From generic.ini

      axes = [
          A1 set(DE, 1.0, 0.0)
          A0 set(DA, 1.0, 0.0)
          A3 set(DP_0, -0.5, 0.5)
          A2 set(DR, 1.0, 0.0)
      ]

      povs = [
          P0 set(HAngle, 1.0, 0.0)
      ]


      It looks like:
      A0..3 = the four axes
      P0 = hat switch
      DE = elevators
      DA = ailerons
      DP_0 = power
      DR = rudder
      HAngle = head angle

      I swapped A2 and A3 and everything was hunky-dory!

      Check out the other *.ini files and see the there are also button press and release events that can be programmed:
      B0..n = buttons

      Proceed at your own peril. And don't be a dummy like me, backup your files first!

      If you want to get really adventurous here are the flight characteristics of the available aircraft (these are also plain text files):
      %PROGRAMFILES%\Google\Google Earth\res\flightsim\aircraft\*.acf

      It's like Christmas!
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    10. Re:This would be a great post for April 1 by Purity+Of+Essence · · Score: 3, Informative

      I guess I was a little too excited and posted before checking everything out. There are more files in the controller director for various sticks. And the files are pretty well documented. You can also create a custom HUD and keyboard setups. Damn! You can even change the gravity and atmosphere. And apparently you don't have to modify existing configs, you can add new ones and reference them in the flightsim.ini file (where you can also setup addition airports). Haven't tested that part yet. Fun-fun-fun!

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    11. Re:This would be a great post for April 1 by Purity+Of+Essence · · Score: 2, Informative

      Bah! You can't add new planes without rebuilding the dialog box resource and compiling it into flightsim.dll. Weak, Google. But thanks for making everything else so easy to monkey with.

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  8. Doom in Microsoft Office by Tom9729 · · Score: 2, Informative

    This is kind of like the Doom "game" hidden in one of the old Microsoft office programs. If I remember right, one version of Excel also had a flight simulator.

    I love easter eggs.

    1. Re:Doom in Microsoft Office by brteag00 · · Score: 5, Informative

      > If I remember right, one version of Excel also had a flight simulator.

      Yep, Excel '97 had a flight sim.
        - Hit 'F5'
        - Jump to cell X97:L97
        - Press 'TAB'
        - Hold down and
        - Press the "Chart Wizard" button on the toolbar.

      I bet the graphics in this one are a little better, though.

    2. Re:Doom in Microsoft Office by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah, so THAT'S why Microsoft was delaying Vista for so long! I wonder what flight sims and FPSes are running in background there, waiting to be discovered!

    3. Re:Doom in Microsoft Office by Bongo+Bill · · Score: 2

      Plus there was that one puzzle/maze/trivia game in one of the releases of Encarta. Good times.

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    4. Re:Doom in Microsoft Office by tibike77 · · Score: 1

      My money's on Duke Nukem Forever :)

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  9. I'm surprised.... by akkarin · · Score: 1, Redundant

    I'm surprised that the Govt hasn't banned this, claiming it to be a terrorist cell training tool. Just a matter of time, I guess...

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    1. Re:I'm surprised.... by spyrochaete · · Score: 1

      I know you're just trying to be smarmy, but you might be more correct than you know. Microsoft Flight Simulator 9 was set to be released shortly after 9/11 2001, but they pulled the master from manufacturing and took the World Trade Center in NYC out of the game before releasing it to stores. Pretty lame.

    2. Re:I'm surprised.... by jtgd · · Score: 0

      That's because this is a honeypot. Anyone actually simulating flying into buildings has their IP address reported via Google to DHS.

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  10. Wise Guys! by stox · · Score: 5, Funny

    The only airport they list for Chicago is Meigs. The only airport that no longer exists in Chicago.

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    1. Re:Wise Guys! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yes and it SUCKS it no longer exists. I used to be able to fly into Chicago for lunch, get out of the plane and WALK to several decent resturants. But no, they decided it was much more important to have it available for Rich assholes to live on waterfront $1,000,000 condos are far more important.

      Destruction of Meigs Airport is solid proof that nobody cares about general aviation anymore.

    2. Re:Wise Guys! by hottoh · · Score: 4, Informative

      We can all thank Mayor Daily for the airport distruction (I think I spelled the Mayor's name wrong, but correcting it is not worth the effort).

      Paraphrasing the reason for the destruction, "the people of Chicago live in fear of terrorist attacks, and I need to do what I can to keep Chicago safe."

      Secretly planning to destroy the airport in the early morning hours acheives that end?

    3. Re:Wise Guys! by Nimey · · Score: 2, Funny

      Chicago's dead people seem to think so; they re-elected him a few months ago.

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    4. Re:Wise Guys! by stox · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yes, you did spell the mayor's name wrong, the correct spelling is "Emperor Daley." Mein Führer and All Hail the King would also be acceptable.

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    5. Re:Wise Guys! by Tribbin · · Score: 1

      Google took the airport for the game so it's no longer there.

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    6. Re:Wise Guys! by Purity+Of+Essence · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Maybe that's a nod to subLOGIC's FS2, the first home flight sim to feature real locations and airports. Chicago's Meigs Field was the player's default starting point.

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    7. Re:Wise Guys! by Triv · · Score: 1

      We can all thank Mayor Daily for the airport distruction (I think I spelled the Mayor's name wrong, but correcting it is not worth the effort).


      I can't help but laugh when people justify not making a five second google search by typing out five seconds worth of text.

      (It's spelled Daley .)


      Triv

    8. Re:Wise Guys! by WindBourne · · Score: 1

      No, that would be W's title. Daleys title is simply Lord Daley, ruler for life.

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    9. Re:Wise Guys! by XHIIHIIHX · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Yeah, just think of all the poor homeless people that can no longer fly into chicago for lunch...

    10. Re:Wise Guys! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You probably type slower than those people.

    11. Re:Wise Guys! by jsight · · Score: 1

      I can't help but laugh when people justify not making a five second google search by typing out five seconds worth of text.

      (It's spelled Daley .)


      You don't understand. This isn't about the 5 seconds, this is about the fact that Emperor Daley is a slimeball, and spelling his name right isn't worth .1 milliseconds.
    12. Re:Wise Guys! by LWATCDR · · Score: 1

      Trust me the aviation comunity was and is up in arms over it. But the people of Chicago voted him in for another term. Almost as bright as the people of New Orleans re-electing their Mayor.

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    13. Re:Wise Guys! by lpangelrob · · Score: 1

      Actually, it was so he could get his Northerly Island park (and occasional temporary stadium venue). Being an airport, Meigs Field never blocked anybody's condo view, and the Burnham Plan, Friends of the Park and other important people/organizations with easy access to local news organizations strongly frown on any further lakeshore development.

  11. Easter Egg reminds me of... by Will+the+Chill · · Score: 1, Informative

    when Microsoft embedded an entire FPS into an old version of Excel. It was truly surreal to be working in a "serious" application and be able to open up a secretly-coded real game engine.

    Weird with a beard!

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    1. Re:Easter Egg reminds me of... by Tribbin · · Score: 1

      Ah, so that's why we pay so much. Game engines in office applications.

      MS Word was finished in '97, the programmers got bored and wrote clippies and game engines instead.

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  12. So does it work... by dbolger · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...with Google Sky?

    Start thrusters, take off, aim nose towards Andromeda, sit back and wait for two million years, find an airport, land.

    Sweet! :D

    1. Re:So does it work... by Tribbin · · Score: 1

      I'm quite sure google wrote bots to explore the universe.

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    2. Re:So does it work... by aldheorte · · Score: 1

      You can do this in EVE, at least within a solar system. In regular space, ships travel at, say, 1000M/s on average. You can travel anywhere in a solar system entirely on regular speed or go to a 'hyperspace warp' that peaks your speed at about 3000c (6AU/s). Assuming you started at a planet the same distance from its sun as the Earth, it would take about 4.75 years of continuous flying without going to warp before you plunged into the sun (not that you can actually plunge into the sun - they are just empty shells that do no damage in EVE). We'll just wave away the server uptime issues and such, of course.

      Much more fun is taking extremely fast ships and 'moon skimming' from one terminus to the other. A reasonably fast ship does in the order of 5000M/s. Let's say you go into orbit around a moon the size of Earth's moon. At 5km/s skimming close to the surface, you would be all the way around it in about 36 minutes. If you start at the terminus on one side and just fly around the dark side to reach the other terminus and see sunrise, you can do it in half that.

    3. Re:So does it work... by WingCmdr · · Score: 1

      You'll get there quicker if you use the warp engines. :-)

  13. Sweet by John+Frink · · Score: 5, Informative

    Just tried a flight, shows hills and everything. Way more than I expected from an easter egg. Kudos to the guy who dreamed this up.

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    1. Re:Sweet by cathector · · Score: 3, Interesting

      of course it shows hills and everything. have you used google earth ?
      imnsfho (keepin it retro) GE is one of the most significant application of computers since internet searching,
      and layering a flight-simulator on top of it is [just] a great extension of an awesome core technology.

    2. Re:Sweet by shird · · Score: 2, Informative

      Its nice and all.. but I don't think it would have been terribly hard to implement. You can already pan the view around in the same manner.. it would have been just a matter of adding some controls and basic physics to pan the view around. The 'hills and everything' are already part of Google earth. It shows the 3D buildings too in some places.

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    3. Re:Sweet by Sir+Codelot · · Score: 1

      Exactly, not much has been added to what is already available in GE.
      Even the ground is pretty much flat. I started on an F-16 from the London Heathrow runway and deliberately did not lift-off. Soon I was 'cruising' through houses and even on the river Thames at 400kmph!

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    4. Re:Sweet by udippel · · Score: 1

      Did you really try, Sir ?
      I am asking because I was trying off Frankfurt and had the office buildings in 3D, and the rolling hills east of Frankfurt underneath. And actually, finished by crashing into a forest at about 400m above sea level in rural Germany.

    5. Re:Sweet by Sir+Codelot · · Score: 1

      Yes, I did. You probably pushed the elevator up accidentally using the mouse or keyboard.
      It's more fun when you start from Kathmandu airport. You can literally climb the Himalayas on your F-16!

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  14. that blog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    did he spam the name of his blog enough? jesus, and what a boring review. I could have summed it up in 30 seconds. press this. choose that. heres how to lift off and crash into the ground in 5 seconds thus showing us nothing. oh blog spam for the 3rd time.

    1. Re:that blog by Bob+Gelumph · · Score: 2, Funny

      I could have summed it up in 30 seconds
      But you didn't.
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  15. Re:Pentagon? by Macrosoft0 · · Score: 0

    be careful, the gov. is using this to see how many people will try to fly their sim-planes into important buildings. your flight is being logged :p

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  16. Re:Pentagon? by Brian+Gordon · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Flying close to the ground is pretty crappy anyway. Apparently there are 1500 foot rolling hills in central Arkansas. But flying from the whole-earth view in space down to little houses is awesome.

  17. get out of the plane and visit people's houses? by bariswheel · · Score: 1

    It would be nice if we could get out of the airplane and visit people's virtual homes. I got tons of cool stuff to show my virtual guests, I don't know about you guys. Another interesting way to meet people and establish relationships, what can I say?

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    1. Re:get out of the plane and visit people's houses? by Tribbin · · Score: 1

      And watching the neighbour's wife shower and stuff. I get your point.

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    2. Re:get out of the plane and visit people's houses? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Second life.

    3. Re:get out of the plane and visit people's houses? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "It would be nice if we could get out of the airplane and visit people's virtual homes."

      That all depends on whether your friends are good pilots or not when they try to land on your virtual street :-)

  18. Re:Now maybe I should wait until tomorrow to try i by istartedi · · Score: 1

    It handled the load just fine when I updated. Now, I know at least one person that I'm reluctant to tell about this, because he's already adicted to GE. We've talked about the possibility of them putting a flight sim in there before--it seemed like a natural idea, since we had both done really lame "flights" just with the momentum of the existing controls.

    FWIW, the F-16 is actually quite forgiving. You just have to gain altitude. I managed to get it up to 50000 ft. I think they cripped the thing, because it was struggling to do 300 at 50,000 ft. I want to see the SR-71 and/or some fantasy craft that can fly into space added at some point. Oh... and yes, an autopilot would be nice. Once you get away from level flight, it's quite difficult to zero out the shimmy, and so far all my flights have ended by spinning into the ground. I managed to take the F16 from SFO to Lake Tahoe, and plant it into the Nevada desert. If I had not tried to turn around, it probably would have circumnavigated in level flight. Oh crap, but as I type this the screen is wobbling. That's just wrong. I need to step away.

    Still not sure if I should tell my GE-addict friend about this.

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  19. Meigs the long time default airport in M$ flight.. by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 1

    Meigs the long time default airport in M$ flight sim is in hear.

  20. Time to update the old corollary? by Ant+P. · · Score: 5, Funny

    All programs expand indefinitely until they include a flight simulator. And email.

  21. Doesn't work for me by DTemp · · Score: 1

    Hymm, I just installed the new version on my mac, did the Command+option+A, and its not working!

    1. Re:Doesn't work for me by Bob+Gelumph · · Score: 4, Informative

      Zoom to San Francisco airport and try it from there.
      It is weird, but it works.
      Also, use fn-up and fn-down in place of page up and page down on a powerbook.

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    2. Re:Doesn't work for me by Riquez · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yep, it does work, but you have to hold the keys down for a few moments to trigger the dialogue box.

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    3. Re:Doesn't work for me by bnenning · · Score: 1

      I had to click on the main view to remove focus from the text fields, then Command-option-A worked.

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    4. Re:Doesn't work for me by initialE · · Score: 1

      For me it didn't work until I had the main window in focus. Means, click on the map.

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    5. Re:Doesn't work for me by lordtoran · · Score: 1

      I clicked on the 3D window, zoomed into San Francisco Airport and held CTRL-ALT-A for several seconds. It still didn't work on my Linux machine.

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    6. Re:Doesn't work for me by spyrochaete · · Score: 1

      On Windows I had to click the map area before CTRL-ALT-A worked for me.

    7. Re:Doesn't work for me by oyenstikker · · Score: 1

      Make sure your window manager isn't catching ctrl+alt+a. Mine was so it didn't work until I removed that binding.

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    8. Re:Doesn't work for me by lordtoran · · Score: 1

      Thanks, that worked.

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  22. Re:Pentagon? by Tribbin · · Score: 2, Funny

    Oh no! They are completed their scrambler.

    Team 3 to position gamma!

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  23. Re:Now maybe I should wait until tomorrow to try i by TheGreek · · Score: 1

    I think they cripped the thing, because it was struggling to do 300 at 50,000 ft.
    There isn't a lot of air at FL500, so your IAS is gonna be pretty low.
  24. Yeah, it's all fun at first by jollyreaper · · Score: 4, Funny

    But I for one am going to be shitting my pants when they update the ground textures to account for the bombing missions I flew in the flight simulator. I will be shitting my pants once again when I leave my house and notice the houses I targeted in my neighborhood are no longer there.

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    1. Re:Yeah, it's all fun at first by lastchance_000 · · Score: 1

      Ender's Google Earth?

    2. Re:Yeah, it's all fun at first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thats a lot of serious pants pooping going on. Be Careful there !

  25. Tried it out by Piedramente · · Score: 1

    I tried it out for a couple hours and I think it is pretty cool overall. It seems like a natural extension of Google Earth and I enjoyed flying over a couple familiar sites. I think it is a very good start, and I hope they continue working on it by adding more views and features! If you have it, definitely give it a go!

    1. Re:Tried it out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you don't have it, definitely give it a go. It's free and it works on Windows, Mac, and Linux.

  26. Google "20% time" at work? by cashman73 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I wonder if this is one of those projects that came out of Google's "20% time" policy, where engineers are given 20% of their time (one day per week) to work on a project of "personal interest"? It's plausible, since this isn't exactly a main feature of google earth. Then again, Google Sky might have been a 20% time project, too?

    Bill Gates is probably going to be real pissed if this starts eating into his M$ Flight Sim profits, especially if (a) this remains free and (b) Google expands it to include more aircraft and options.

    On another note, I wonder if they could make this a network thing, so perhaps we could have dog fights with other users in the air? But the feds would probably put a stop to that, since that would also require Google to install live missiles and bombs in the simulator, allowing people to start bombing various structures in google earth,...

    1. Re:Google "20% time" at work? by 644bd346996 · · Score: 1

      I would guess that this was a 20% time project. I's such an obvious feature to add when you're getting bored with the regular stuff. It is also a very rough alpha-quality feature. For example, it seems quite laggy - probably single threaded. The gauges also can't handle wide screens well - the compass and the tops of the altitude and airspeed indicators will move off the top of the screen. The controls are also pretty rough.

      Given that, I still think they've killed quite a few MS Flight Simulator sales. Google Earth's scenery is much better, and they will probably be adding 3d building support too. People who use flight simulators just for the scenery will probably stop buying FS, and people who really care about realism are already using X-Plane.

    2. Re:Google "20% time" at work? by Andrew+Aguecheek · · Score: 1

      "and they will probably be adding 3d building support too"

      They already do don't they? Even in the flightsim.

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    3. Re:Google "20% time" at work? by 8ball629 · · Score: 1

      I'm all for the networking aspect! Go Google!

      Oh no! I'm lost in the Mojave Desert in my F16 and there is no Cessnas to blow out of the sky! :(

    4. Re:Google "20% time" at work? by fm6 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It pretty much has to be. I can't picture anybody getting an Easter egg like this as an assignment.

      I used to be blown away by the way impressive new features appear in Google products with little or no fanfare. Contrast this with the way most companies treat every little achievement as if it were the Second Coming. But now it seems obvious that these things are released so quietly because nobody knows about them, except the people working on them. And that much uncoordinated work in not a good sign in a software development org.

      You might wonder if I'm making too much of this. After all, it's only 20% of their engineering effort. But is it? It's hard to keep track of how developers spend their time even when you have good managers. And Google barely has any managers. People I've met who work there talk (and sometimes complain) about low manager/contributor ratios and almost almost no supervision. Which makes me suspect that many folks spend most of their time on their "20%" and only do enough of their official assignments to avoid pissing off their managers — managers they hardly ever see. Meanwhile, serious bugs go unfixed and major projects lag behind schedule.

  27. it's in the tools menu by pigphish · · Score: 1

    after you press ctl+sht+a it appears perpetually under the tool menu. i wonder if its a feature they planned on implementing in a later release.

  28. Not Engineer - Programmer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There are no engineers in programming, just programmers. This is a "sanitation engineer" thing, and really nonsense to anyone real engineer.

  29. Agreed by p3d0 · · Score: 1

    I have an engineering degree (two, in fact) and I never call myself an engineer. I usually say I "write software".

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  30. Thank you Google by halo8 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Thanks to everyone at google, this is so amazing.

    THIS
    THIS is the flight sim i have wanted to fly all my life!

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  31. Re:Now maybe I should wait until tomorrow to try i by iluvcapra · · Score: 4, Informative

    There isn't a lot of air at FL500, so your IAS is gonna be pretty low.

    Quickie: IAS or Indicated Airspeed is a flight dynamic that measures the unidirectional force of air along an aircraft's angle of attack and presents this data as a speed; it is measured with a "pitot tube," a metal tube on the wing or nose of a plane that collects air and measures the amount of force being applied down the tube. At standard temp and pressure, with no wind, and with the aircraft's angle of attack parallel to the surface, this number will theoretically give you the speed at which you are traveling along the ground. As ambient pressure goes down (say with altitude), IAS for a given ground speed goes down; as wind picks up, depending on the wind's bearing to the aircraft's orientation, IAS can go up or down (A plane flying a 100 kts headwind and 100 kts IAS will, all other things being equal, in fact have a ground speed of zero). As angle of attack increases, ground speed goes down. You might be flying at Mach 2, but if you're pointed straight up, your ground speed will be zero.

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  32. Re:Pentagon? by Leviance · · Score: 1

    want something interesting? go to the grand canyon and try it out!

  33. Look out, Flight Simulator! by mcrbids · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm a private pilot, and the other simulators disappoint. They are good for practicing Instrument procedure, and to a certain extent, airplane maneuvers, but for just plane fun (pun intended) they are weak.

    Most of the joy of flying General Aviation (small) planes is the view - nothing like it anywhere else, including that commercial jet. (which rockets up to 45,000 feet in 10 minutes where you can't see jack) Flight simulators have typically given depictions of the landscape - patterns that are rough analogies of what you'd actually find out the window.

    But this is the real McCoy! Resolution is still weak, and the plane handling characteristics are lousy, but when I'm flying 5,500 VFR over the East Bay, it actually IS the East Bay. I noticed that once you've started the Easter Egg, you can re-launch from any view, which let me spin a few circles above local Oroville, CA.

    I recognized everything and had no trouble finding the local airport, and successfully landed the very first try in the SR-22. Since I've never flown an SR22, I had to stall it first in the air to figure out what my approach speed should be - about 70 knots seemed about right.

    Really, if they put some spit and polish on this, it could give FS X a real run for its money - for just plane fun, it already rivals FS X!

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    1. Re:Look out, Flight Simulator! by trawg · · Score: 1

      Yep - I wonder why MS didn't think of this with FSX. They already have the imagery available on their Google Maps equivalent site. Streaming them in real-time seems like a decent next step (though I'd want to be able to cache them and set the cache size).

    2. Re:Look out, Flight Simulator! by mikeboone · · Score: 3, Informative

      Apparently, someone else did it for them with an addon called TileProxy...I have not tried it, but there's a video here.

    3. Re:Look out, Flight Simulator! by spyrochaete · · Score: 1

      The day I got FSX I marvelled at the gorgeous aircraft modelling and amazing 3D cockpit, but immediately searched the web for some kind of a Google Earth graphics modification. Everything just looked so brown (at about 3/4 detail). As you say, with a relatively small bit of work to add things like, say text-based ATC, maybe some FSX-style missions, and external aircraft control, I could see myself spending a lot of time futzing around with this little toy.

    4. Re:Look out, Flight Simulator! by HAKdragon · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Now if only somebody could port this as a plug-in for X-Plane.

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    5. Re:Look out, Flight Simulator! by scaryjohn · · Score: 2, Informative

      Most of the joy of flying General Aviation (small) planes is the view - nothing like it anywhere else, including that commercial jet. (which rockets up to 45,000 feet in 10 minutes where you can't see jack) Flight simulators have typically given depictions of the landscape - patterns that are rough analogies of what you'd actually find out the window.

      But this is the real McCoy! Resolution is still weak, and the plane handling characteristics are lousy, but when I'm flying 5,500 VFR over the East Bay, it actually IS the East Bay. I noticed that once you've started the Easter Egg, you can re-launch from any view, which let me spin a few circles above local Oroville, CA.

      For a better mix of realistic scenery and handling, have you tried Flight Gear? I haven't gotten it to work on my computer so I'm not speaking from experience, but I was taken in to try it by the fact that they have 10 degree by 10 degree texture packs you can get if you want to see the area you're in, instead of a white bread approximation of it. Or get the whole world on three DVD's!

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    6. Re:Look out, Flight Simulator! by 4D6963 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I'm a private pilot, and the other simulators disappoint.

      Even X-Plane?

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    7. Re:Look out, Flight Simulator! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting
      > Now if only somebody could port this as a plug-in for X-Plane.

      http://www.chriskern.net/code/xplaneToGoogleEart h.html

  34. Re:Pentagon? by MassiveForces · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Actually I think all this talk of aiding terrorisim is arse backwards since flight sims are everywhere anyway. I expected the plane to bounce off the ground and just be arcade style at first, but it actually crashes and then places you far enough away from where you crashed to do a rerun of navigation... to your 'target'. So since you have to be connected the whole time to use it properly won't this just tip off the people at google HQ that somethings up if say people in certain locales start crashing into the Pentagon a bit too much all of a sudden?

  35. Really awesome, BUT... by Raven737 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I just wish there was a way i could pre-cache a certain area at the highest detail level.
    As it is now, it only starts to download when you are already in an area which means
    that you are always seeing sub optimal detail levels when you fly into new areas.

    For Google it should be easy to make a simple position prediction algorithem (including z) to prioritize
    map content area and detail level download. Especially in a flight sim it should be fairly easy to predict
    near future positions with a relative high degree of certainty.

    Oh well, i was still having more fun playing this then i was playing MS FlighSim X...
    Performance probably had a lot do to with that, but also the fact that high res.
    aerial pictures for everything is simply better then crappy generated (i should say composited)
    detail textures for most everything.

    Of course this is this and MS Fligh Sim is something totally different in terms of scope and realism.
    Nevertheless, this is free, fun, quick and simple and for me that simply wins :)

  36. Re:Another terrorist (hunting) feature... by EtaCarinae · · Score: 1

    Well, I'll imagine US will monitor where people virtually fly. Do not train white house assaults or CIA will be knocking on your door!

  37. Oldnews by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This was available in the last few versions. The documentation was all online, this is old news. Stupid incurious monkeys...

  38. Re:Pentagon? by bluej100 · · Score: 1

    There's no way Will Smith actually flew through there.

    Also, GP, I'll bet you have elevation exaggeration set to 3.

  39. 3D Buildings please!!! by hughk · · Score: 1

    Where the earth is really bumpy, i.e., mountain ranges it looks great. So when you take of from Kathmandu (the default), you can head for the big Himalayas and the definition is excellent. The problem is that the 3D buildings aren't rendered in flight sim mode, as far as I can see.

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    1. Re:3D Buildings please!!! by init100 · · Score: 1

      The problem is that the 3D buildings aren't rendered in flight sim mode, as far as I can see.

      No? They are for me.

    2. Re:3D Buildings please!!! by jon_cooper · · Score: 1

      Yeah - you gotta go where it's mountainous for it to look good. Try Queenstown, New Zealand. Lots of hills and great scenery.

    3. Re:3D Buildings please!!! by jon_cooper · · Score: 1

      Yeah - go to layers and turn on "3D Buildings" - only works for major cities...

  40. PS: Spacemouse works too.... by Joce640k · · Score: 1

    I've been playing Google earth with a space mouse for ages.

    It's 10000% more fun than the normal mouse controls.

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  41. Oooooh an easter egg .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So 1990's, so Microsoft.

  42. To make it work in Linux.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... you just need to press Ctrl + Windows key + A (instead of Ctrl+Alt+A)

    1. Re:To make it work in Linux.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's just Ctl +A for Linux, forget the Windows key Linux doesn't need it ;D

    2. Re:To make it work in Linux.. by Laser_iCE · · Score: 1

      Uh I think that was the point.

    3. Re:To make it work in Linux.. by notanatheist · · Score: 2, Informative

      It may depend on your window manager. On Fluxbox I just used Ctrl+Alt+A to get into it. One thing for sure though, my crappy joystick works better with X-Plane which happens to run beautifully on linux as well.

  43. Re:Now maybe I should wait until tomorrow to try i by DohnJoe · · Score: 2, Informative

    As angle of attack increases, ground speed goes down I think you mean pitch instead of 'angle of attack'

    Angle of Attack is defined as the angle between the direction of the airflow wind and the wing, and has by definition little to do with the ground speed or the wind direction.
  44. 15,000 m/s by nbritton · · Score: 1

    You wouldn't believe how hard it is to escape earth's gravity... You can try it with X-Plane, http://www.x-plane.com/

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  45. Re:Now maybe I should wait until tomorrow to try i by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That is possibly the best sig I have ever seen. I'm so gonna steal it. ;)

  46. Crash by plams · · Score: 4, Funny

    Shit. I just accidently crashed my SR22 into the Google Campus. I hope they don't log these kind of things..

    1. Re:Crash by F4_W_weasel · · Score: 2, Funny

      No sir we don't, but accidentally, we crashed into you gmail account, and accidentally we forwarded all the porn e-mail to your mom, your perv...
      Thanks for enjoying our flightsim.

      PS: the NSA looooved some of your e-mails.

      Hugs

  47. LHX by bazorg · · Score: 1

    I don't know if it's hard to control this simulator or if it's realistic, but I wish it was more like LHX. in fact, a hybrid of LHX Attack Chopper with Google Maps would kick ass.

  48. The "bug" has been fixed??? by Koyaanisqatsi · · Score: 1

    Just downloaded it to try it out and nothing happens when I press the keys.

    I got version "4.2.0181.2634 (beta)"

    What's up?

    1. Re:The "bug" has been fixed??? by newr00tic · · Score: 2, Funny

      Just downloaded it to try it out and nothing happens when I press the keys.

      You must be using Linux, wherein nothing is supposed to work.

      -That's what 'free' implies.
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    2. Re:The "bug" has been fixed??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Press the space bar to start.

  49. Re:Now maybe I should wait until tomorrow to try i by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If the only tool you have is George W Bush, all your problems start looking like wars.

    /Fixed.

  50. What I would like to see by Hark3n · · Score: 1

    What I would like to see isthis bieng combined with a flight sim like X-plane or Flightgear. It would definately make for some nice flying plus you get a load of extras in aircraft.

  51. To find out, you will need to use what the by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    terrorists used; MS Flight Sim. It apparently gave enough info for them to pull it off. Of course, in another 3 years, all of them will be doing the same thing.

  52. Actually, jepp may be endangered by WindBourne · · Score: 1

    I used to contract for Jeppesen. They are in increasing danger of losing their monopoly from a number of other companies and are aware of it. At this point, if Google wanted, they could improve the sim and the map interface and develop the software to load on laptops and ultimately to on-board equipment (though expensive to get the FAA certs for it). The important thing is to win over the pilots, and get them to LOVE the interface. Jepp Maps RULED the world for decades. But the reason is that pilots were taught the interface symbols and the idea of jumping to the fed's maps is difficult. Since most pilots today use computers (and ALL pilots that I know use google), Google could take this away.

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  53. Thanks for the youtube video by tyrant · · Score: 3, Funny

    I've never wanted to die so much after listening to the narrative. Talk about taking a long time to explain nothing.
    "Us computer people" and did you really need to read out the URLs?

    1. Re:Thanks for the youtube video by detroit900 · · Score: 1

      Yes, 2 minutes and 30 seconds of blather to get to a video of someone flying a plane badly. It was good finally learning what the term easter egg means again. I had only heard that about 11,000 times before.

    2. Re:Thanks for the youtube video by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Plus way too freaking much of the "now you're going to want to go ahead and...".

      It's Office Space all over again. Uggh.

  54. Key combo not working? Enable it by hand by Rabenwolf · · Score: 1

    The key combo to enable the flightsim is reported to vary, I had to press Ctrl+WinKey+A to enable it (Kubuntu).

    In case you're having difficulties, try changing the value in the file .googleearth/Registry/google/googleearthplus/User/ flightsim/isenabled manually from 0 to 1 and the flightsim should appear in the tools menu.

  55. My mom hates flying. HATES it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Any time I play a flight simulator game and she can see the screen she says something like "You'd better stay in school because you'll never be a pilot." or "See if you can fly under that bridge!"

    I showed her Google Earth's this morning. After zooming around the local area for a few minutes and realizing that she wasn't commenting on it I turned around to see her sitting on the couch with a most unpleasant look on her face.

    "I think I'm going to be sick."

    Proof positive of it's awesomeness. :D

  56. Sure he did! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > There's no way Will Smith actually flew through there.

    It was just like shooting womp-rats in Beggar's Canyon back home! Didn't you watch the director's cut?

  57. KML - does it reads a KML and follow it??? by F4_W_weasel · · Score: 1

    I wonder if can read and follow a KML file, that would be soooo freakin cool. Kudos gor the google dude who heard our cry for a flightsim into GE.

  58. unstable ram hog by JasonEngel · · Score: 1

    Within seconds this easter egg had consumed more than a gig of available ram then locked up. Not what I would call "freaking awesome".

    1. Re:unstable ram hog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      SO IN OTHER WORDS IT'S LIEK VISTA LOL!!!1!



      Reason: Don't use so many caps. It's like JEWS.

  59. Re:Pentagon? by HAKdragon · · Score: 1

    The one thing that I really like about Google Earth's Flight Sim is the fact that it's using real world photos for it's terrain. Plus the 3D buildings makes flying a lot more realistic. As much as I love X-Plane, the fact that it uses generic building models for most major cities and a lot of the texture data (at least in the Cleveland area) is tiled and looks nothing like the actual area I'm flying around makes for a less than realistic experience. (Granted, I'm sure that Microsoft Flight simulator looks fantastic and has really realistic real world texture data, but get back to me when Microsoft ports Flight Simulator to Linux or OS X.)

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  60. Web Version by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1, Insightful

    When Google's map webpages are speedy and interactive enough to offer a flight simulator, with even the most rudimentary features, Google will finally have arrived at a "Web platform" that competes with desktop platforms. And when all its functions are available as an API (including downloadable scripts and objects) for anyone to bundle, they'll actually have the beginnings of a "Web OS".

    Of course the test is whether it can run games like a flight sim. But as a truly native network platform, the games should be even more interesting, whether P2P, client/server, or whether we can't even tell the difference.

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  61. Know your terrorists... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Pipebombs are for Christian anti-abortion bombers. To apply to Muslims, you should be thinking of suicide belts, IEDs, and boxcutters.

  62. X-Plane by 4D6963 · · Score: 1

    Very nice, but their flight sim is very basic, I think they should deal with someone who's done good in the flight sim business. My first thought is that guy who made X-Plane, I think they should hire some of his services to make Google Earth Flightsim a fully fledged flightsim that would compete with MS's flightsims

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    1. Re:X-Plane by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, and it would be nice to be able to "customize" the joystick inputs. For example, on my Top Gun Fox 2 Pro joystick, I have to use my throttle for rudder and rudder for throttle. Whereas they're correct by default in every other flight sim software I've used.

      It was confusing to figure out what was happening at first. I throttled up and the plane yawed to the left which is sometimes what normal planes do if you're in a slow climb. However when I applied right rudder to correct for what I thought was adverse yaw, the plane nosed over and began a descent because I had cut power to idle.

    2. Re:X-Plane by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      read:

      #20441789

  63. Re:Now maybe I should wait until tomorrow to try i by iluvcapra · · Score: 1

    You right, I was sleepy last night ;)

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  64. Re:Pentagon? by Brian+Gordon · · Score: 1

    ...get back to me when it's not a 15 gigabyte installation. Hot dang is that beautiful though.

  65. That's because by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    On a powerbook/macbook, fn+up == page up; fn+down == page down

    Also, fn+left == home and fn+right == end

  66. Re:Pentagon? by RealGrouchy · · Score: 1

    Yeah, and the screen only refreshes every 2 seconds.

    - RG>

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  67. is there any way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    to run this without a windows key on your keyboard, neither of the combos work for me and windows keys are a device of satan's greasy plan to rob you of the quake 3 arena custom mouse blanket

    1. Re:is there any way by mecanicaz · · Score: 1

      English US keyboard layout is the key, if you try eabling the shortcuts with other english keyboard layouts it fails

  68. Flightgear by Trogre · · Score: 1

    For some time now I had been hoping the Flightgear community would plug into something like Google Earth. Now it seems the opposite has taken place but I wonder how their flight models compare?

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  69. Racing, bring it on :) by kn0tw0rk · · Score: 1

    While that would be sweet, they will need to have some sort of licenses to use real cars in the game, ala Gran Tourismo and the like.

    Would be sweet to have a virtual drive round my own town.

    But would it be used by nefarious people to plan getaway's from crimes? Or for the police to practice co-ordinating pursuits?

    Interesting times :)

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  70. oh! come on! by namekuseijin · · Score: 1

    this has been into GoogleEarth since day 1. and yes flying the Grand Canyon is fucking amazing...

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  71. The only thing I needed by ghostbar38 · · Score: 0

    Now I will not leave my notebook for nothing... Why did you discovered this?! :'(

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  72. That's what others can learn from Mac users! by LKM · · Score: 2, Interesting

    As a user of all three major OSes, I would argue that it would do Windows and Linux users a lot of good to be a bit more critical. Looking at the apps available, there's a reason Mac apps are generally more polished: Mac users complain about stuff like that and will ignore (and thus eventually kill) crappy apps.

    Please, people, learn something from Mac users. Don't accept crap just because it's free.

  73. Re:Now maybe I should wait until tomorrow to try i by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    No, IAS is synthesized by subtracting the pressure recorded at the static port from that recorded in the pitot.

    As you point out, the pitot pressure is dependent on the ram effect, and the pitot is deliberately aligned with the pitch of the whole aircraft in stable and level flight at a given calibration speed (ideally close to MAC AoA of zero) in order to record the same dynamic pressure experienced at the Mean Aerodynamic Chord of the lifting wing(s).

    The static pressure port allows the recording of ambient pressure (no ram effect).

    You want the IAS to increase with an increase in the pressure difference between the static port reading and the pitot reading -- if you rely only on the latter your IAS will increase with atmospheric pressure even in the absence of any wind.

    Since IAS is really used as a proxy for the (dimensionless) coefficients of lift, drag and moment -- it is important that it reflect the dynamic pressures on the flying surfaces, rather than the combination of dynamic and static pressures.

    At standard temp and pressure, with no wind, and with the aircraft's angle of attack parallel to the surface, this number will theoretically give you the speed at which you are traveling along the ground

    If it does not actually give you the ground speed when you are flying at sea level, your airspeed indicator is miscalibrated to the point of dangerous inoperability. STP is not necessary because ambient pressure is already factored out by the pitot-static system. As long as you have a working/unclogged/unfrozen pitot and static port, indicated airspeed and true groundspeed should be identical in the absence of wind.

    From a pilot's perspective, ambient pressure is only of interest (in flight) for altimetry. (It is also important with respect to the difference between groundspeed and IAS in the takeoff and landing phases because of limits on wheel rotation speeds, braking power and engine thrust).

    As with aerodynamicists, pilots are more concerned about IAS with respect to stall speeds, structural limits of the aircraft itself, and efficiencies (fuel vs rate of climb; lift vs drag). KIAS (indicated airspeed in nautical miles per hour) is used mainly for historical reasons; in modern high-altitude aircraft it is unhelpful because at altitudes of 10 000 m and above, fractions of knots of IAS represent large (and dangerous!) changes in dynamic pressures experienced by the aircraft. For example, the U2 was routinely operated at altitudes where the KIAS difference between stall speed and structurally-dangerous overpressure (leading to wing damage) was less than 5 knots.

    High-altitude operations generally revert to Mach numbers instead of KIAS; the Mach number is a direct decimal representation of the dynamic pressures, and is altitude-independent. Limits are easier to observe when they are expressed in terms of Mach number (Mmo, for example) than as a many-row table where each row represents a different Flight Level or calibrated altimeter reading.

    In high-altitude operations, relating Mach number to ground speed is not much more difficult than relating KIAS to ground speed.

    IAS for a given ground speed goes down; as wind picks up, depending on the wind's bearing to the aircraft's orientation, IAS can go up or down (A plane flying a 100 kts headwind and 100 kts IAS will, all other things being equal, in fact have a ground speed of zero)

    and

    You might be flying at Mach 2, but if you're pointed straight up, your ground speed will be zero

    Neither of these is precisely true.

    A better way of thinking about the difference between Mach number (or IAS) and ground speed is that aircraft fly in a body of air that behaves like a sea or river, complete with currents.

    If you are on a boat on a fast moving river, your speed relative to the river surface is entirely dependent upon the performance of the bo

  74. This is super! by LordSnooty · · Score: 1

    Now, can anyone tell me how to fly a plane?

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  76. Re:So does it work...(forgot something?) by Ken+Erfourth · · Score: 1

    "Start thrusters, take off, aim nose towards Andromeda, sit back and wait for two million years, find an airport, land."

    You forgot something...

    Profit!

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  77. Google Flight simulator non officall blog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0