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Disney Takes Another Stab at the House of the Future

Disney has announced that they are going to take another stab at showing us the "House of the Future". The 5000-square-foot house will appear normal from the outside but will house gadgets like lights and thermostats that automatically adjust when someone enters the room and countertops that can identify food placed on it and suggest recipes. "Millions of Disneyland visitors lined up a half-century ago to catch a glimpse of the future: a home teeming with mind-blowing gadgets such as handsfree phones, wall-sized televisions, plastic chairs, and electric razors and toothbrushes. [...] The $15 million home is a collaboration of The Walt Disney Co., Microsoft Corp., Hewlett-Packard Co., software maker LifeWare and homebuilder Taylor Morrison. Visitors will experience the look of tomorrow by watching Disney actors playing a family of four preparing for a trip to China."

277 comments

  1. I would like to see... by Darundal · · Score: 1

    ...How integrated various forms of media are from each other in this house.

    1. Re:I would like to see... by ushering05401 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I would like to see a completely sound-proofed house with all appliances designed to work as quietly as possible.

      After all, it is highly unlikely that the volume of sensory input people have to endure outside the home is going to decrease anytime soon.

      Hell, people are already patenting devices to track your eyes so their adverts can talk to you if they think they have your attention.

      My home of the future might well resemble a faraday cage.

    2. Re:I would like to see... by syzler · · Score: 1

      My home of the future might well resemble a faraday cage.

      I've often wondered why companies have not yet started making wall paper that has a wire mesh imbedded in it. Granted, the mesh would not make a perfect faraday cage, but it would greatly reduce the radio signals that can penetrate a room enough to possibly render a cell phone useless in the Dinning room, a library, or a theater.

    3. Re:I would like to see... by hachete · · Score: 4, Interesting

      every gadget will have NO REPEAT NO lights, not even the smallest flicker. Even the damn mac has the green light on the power line. My epson printer has three, and one continually blinks.

      Profound changes must take place, and NO LIGHTS is one of them.

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    4. Re:I would like to see... by AaxelB · · Score: 1

      I suspect they did something like this in the new (~4 years old) computer science building at my university, because I generally have a full signal right outside, but can't recieve or place a call at all inside. It makes sense, since classes won't be disrupted nearly as much. I've more than once discovered after an exam or lecture that people had called me and my phone had no clue.

    5. Re:I would like to see... by Cassius+Corodes · · Score: 1

      Hear Hear, My external hard-drive case has a massive light on the front that could be used as a torch. I had to disconnect the light so that I could get some sleep when its running overnight.

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    6. Re:I would like to see... by notbob · · Score: 0

      so I guess I'm not the only one who sticks pieces of electrical tape over all the lights on the electronics?

      Gee who'd a thunk when I want to watch a movie that 33+ LED lights of various colors could possibly be distracting...

    7. Re:I would like to see... by IndieKid · · Score: 1

      Installing signal blocking equipment is illegal in a lot of places, like the UK and Ireland. I expect there's just a whole load of EM noise from the equipment in the CS building that stops calls getting through.

    8. Re:I would like to see... by syzler · · Score: 1

      I thought that signal jamming equipment is illegal. If a simple faraday cage is illegal then you microwave oven would be in violation.

  2. Any day now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    In addition to the standard house-of-the-future home automation, the house will also include its own micro-fusion electric generator (running on tap water), a landing pad for the flying car, and Duke Nukem Forever running on a secure update to Microsoft Windows.

    1. Re:Any day now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Clippy:
      It appears you are burning your toast. Would you like some help with that?

      UAC:
      You are attempting to microwave a Cup-o-Noodle
      [Allow] [cancel]

    2. Re:Any day now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...but they all miss the trip to China because daddy wanted to try out the alternate, community maintained house OS. The house locked itself because daddy didn't RTFM.

    3. Re:Any day now by mangu · · Score: 2, Funny

      Duke Nukem Forever running on a secure update to Microsoft Windows

      No, the secure Microsoft Windows will be the server, Duke Nukem Forever will run on the Linux Desktop
  3. Don't forget the most important feature! by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 5, Informative

    Full support for multiple DRM technologies is built into everything!

    1. Re:Don't forget the most important feature! by Locklin · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm sorry, you want to use your toaster in the bathtub? You have to purchase extra permissions to do that: $50 at amazon.com.

      Remember, breaking usage agreements is STEALING. You wouldn't steal an old ladies purse, would you?

      Any unauthorized appliance usage, or sharing of appliances is deemed a criminal offense and will be instantly reported directly to Microsoft.com. Your house will enter a "restricted usage" mode, and will drop to below freezing until sufficient licenses are purchased.

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    2. Re:Don't forget the most important feature! by SharpFang · · Score: 1

      Yep, the table would display recipes for food placed on them, but only the title and first sentence. You'd have to pay for the rest.

      Also, if you place your MP3 player or a xero of a book or such, the house will automatically report you to the police.

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    3. Re:Don't forget the most important feature! by zippthorne · · Score: 1

      I'm sorry, you want to use your toaster in the bathtub? You have to purchase extra permissions to do that: $50 at amazon.com.


      Well that's a terrible example. Some people think that doing incredibly stupid things like putting a high-current electric appliance with exposed elements in an appliance filled with electrolytic water (the salts provided by the you) and your naked person should have at least one aggravating step.
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    4. Re:Don't forget the most important feature! by packeteer · · Score: 1, Insightful

      WHOOOOOSH

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    5. Re:Don't forget the most important feature! by Kadin2048 · · Score: 1

      Well that's a terrible example. Some people think that doing incredibly stupid things like putting a high-current electric appliance with exposed elements in an appliance filled with electrolytic water (the salts provided by the you) and your naked person should have at least one aggravating step. I think the part where you carry the toaster to your bathroom and plug it in is the "aggravating step" ...
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    6. Re:Don't forget the most important feature! by dmsuperman · · Score: 1

      WHOOOOOSH.

      You missed the sarcastic not-getting-it response.

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    7. Re:Don't forget the most important feature! by westlake · · Score: 1
      Full support for multiple DRM technologies is built into everything!

      Translation:

      The family subscribes to satellite radio and TV, plays console games on their big screen TV, and rents Blu-Ray videos from Netflix. Broadband Internet is an important part of the mix, but the PC still runs some flavor of Windows or OSX.

    8. Re:Don't forget the most important feature! by Basehart · · Score: 1

      "WHOOOOOSH.

      You missed the sarcastic not-getting-it response."


      WHOOOOSH.

      You missed the five O's:

      Two O's = poster at least indicating to readers that parent didn't see through gp's sarcasm, but fails to describe sound of something flying over ones head.
      Three O's = poster hip to concept of whooooshing but in a rush to post before the boss walks in the door.
      Four O's = poster correctly indicating to readers that parent didn't see through gp's sarcasm
      Five O's = poster knows parent was faking not-getting-it but merely laying a trap for reader who thinks they fucked up.
      Six O's = poster responding to parent who not only didn't see through gp's sarcasm but makes a reeeely lame comment about how dumb the gp is for not-getting-it.
      Seven O's = The ultimate smackdown. The whole world will laugh at the parent for not-getting-it.

      Oh...wait. You used five O's as well. Did you mean to?

    9. Re:Don't forget the most important feature! by Elbowgeek · · Score: 1

      Yes, you'll get messages such as "It appears that the bread you've inserted into Microsoft Toaster 1.0 was stolen. Please insert a properly acquired piece of toast and press Continue".

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    10. Re:Don't forget the most important feature! by wkk2 · · Score: 1

      Ding Dong: I'm sorry but your doorbell chime license has expired. It will now only announce every 10th visitor. To renew you license, please go to .... DOMAIN NOT FOUND.

      Warning: Your access credentials have expired since your property taxes are -32767 days overdue.

    11. Re:Don't forget the most important feature! by AgentSmith · · Score: 1

      C'mon this is helpful Microsoft.

      Let's set the scene . . .

      You just had it.
      You're just about ready to take your toaster of the future and plop it right into the ultra modern tub filled with salts
      when a hologram appears.

      Clippy: It's looks like you're trying to snuff it! Can I help? (Allow|Deny)

      You: SOD OFF!!

      Clippy: Well in that case.

      [Medicine cabinet doors opens and knocks you in the head. Unconscious, you fall face forward into the loo and die.]

      Clippy: (Dial 911) Hello? I would like to report an accident.

    12. Re:Don't forget the most important feature! by Uzuri · · Score: 1

      That'd require Clippy to actually be helpful though; not sure he can handle that.

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  4. Soft Rains by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    "Today is August 5, 2026. Today is August 5, 2026"

    1. Re:Soft Rains by Rtech · · Score: 1

      Thank you AC because I've been trying to remember(without searching, of course) what that short story was called!

    2. Re:Soft Rains by Foobar+of+Borg · · Score: 1

      Thank you AC because I've been trying to remember(without searching, of course) what that short story was called!
      "There Will Come Soft Rains" by Ray Bradbury. One of my favorites, too. You can find it in The Martian Chronicles. (I'm not the AC, though).
    3. Re:Soft Rains by Foobar+of+Borg · · Score: 1

      I should probably feel very embarrassed now since the title of the story was in the subject line :-(

  5. Time to join the Luddites... by owlnation · · Score: 4, Funny

    countertops that can identify food placed on it and suggest recipes
    A whole house that has pop-up ads. That's not my future, I promise you. I'm thinking those bastards at the Sirius Cybernetic Corporation had a hand in the design.
    1. Re:Time to join the Luddites... by Aeamarth · · Score: 1

      Don't worry, their marketing division will be the firs against the wall when the revolution comes... (or so I heard...)

    2. Re:Time to join the Luddites... by rucs_hack · · Score: 4, Funny

      Um, yeah, of course.

      What do you think are the chances of a computer controlled house with net access that *doesn't* spam you with ads?

      There will be three kinds of utility for your web house. I shall elaborate.

      Basic:

      All the 'features', but to access them you must willingly subject yourself to advertising, and targeted recommendations.

      Standard:

      All the features, no non elective ads, but you're still likely to have 'great suggestions' coming in, facebook app-like, trying to get you to winningly accept the ads..

      Premium.

      They give you the device, and leave you the fuck alone. Expect this to be itself in one of two further sub-categories

      sub-cat 1: Far too expensive for most people.

      sub-cat 2: Available only to selected people, likely not even able to be bought.

    3. Re:Time to join the Luddites... by Abreu · · Score: 2, Funny

      If they try that, those idiots will be first against the wall when the revolution comes

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    4. Re:Time to join the Luddites... by UberOogie · · Score: 4, Funny

      Not only that, but can you imagine the amount of research they are going to have to do with cannibals considering that human hands will be the most common thing on the countertop?

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    5. Re:Time to join the Luddites... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I keep waiting for the self-checkout registers at the local grocery store to start saying (a la Clippy) "it looks like you are buying pizza ingredients; have you considered Ragu pizza sauce?" ... or words to that effect. So far it just reminds me to place my scanned items in the bag and gives me coupons to use next time (these are usually related to what I bought); when it starts telling me what to buy, I'm going to reprogram it with a large ax!

    6. Re:Time to join the Luddites... by Damastus+the+WizLiz · · Score: 1

      My local grocery already has this. they have hand held scanners that you check out with your discount card and you carry arround with you so you can total your order as you go and then transfer it into the self check out. all thats left is for you to bag your stuff and get out. But the hand scanner has a nice large screen that flashes adds for things depending on what you have scanned, what you have previously purchased, and where you are in the store.

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    7. Re:Time to join the Luddites... by aywwts4 · · Score: 5, Funny

      You forgot number four.

      Ultimate:

      I hacked my home by running a buffer overflow exploit on my blender, loaded linux and now my house can fly to the moon.

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    8. Re:Time to join the Luddites... by Bellum+Aeternus · · Score: 1

      I hope the developers make the system smart enough to know that adverts for Cialis and Viagra are too late once counter starts getting some "unintended" uses. :-)

      I don't even want to think of the nightmare of what'll happen when my daughter or nephew sit on it. :-? So yeah... not buying one of those.

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    9. Re:Time to join the Luddites... by Casualposter · · Score: 1

      Followed by the family cats and dogs.

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    10. Re:Time to join the Luddites... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      But when you put them against the wall, will the wall offer tips on organizing a firing squad?

    11. Re:Time to join the Luddites... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I don't even want to think of the nightmare of what'll happen when my daughter or nephew sit on it."
      Oh, that's not the worst. Wait till your daughter *and* your nephew sit on it!

  6. Trip to china by Mickyfin613 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Visitors will experience the look of tomorrow by watching Disney actors playing a family of four preparing for a trip to China to welcome their new Chinese overlords. Fixt.

    1. Re:Trip to china by Amouth · · Score: 3, Insightful

      i was about to comment on that..

      atleast they will get one thing right... in 50 years we will be headed to China to find work to pay for our crazy expensive crap over here.

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    2. Re:Trip to china by slashgimp · · Score: 1

      ...or perhaps the new Disney(TM) tourism adventure will be to watch with satisfaction as indentured "employees" produce the bits of the House of The (DRM-Orwellian) Future for a dollar a day, just so the Disney Family(TM) can afford to have their food-identifying counter-top ;)

      Whee.

    3. Re:Trip to china by phobos13013 · · Score: 1

      Regarding that part of it: I smell a rat, and it's not Mickey! http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0213/p02s04-usmi.html

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  7. Frosty Piss dispenser by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    Also rumored to be incorporated into the walls of the kitchen is a Frosty Piss dispenser. A generous assortment of options includes the ability to pre-select steaming, foaming, or on-the-rocks varieties. In a press release, Michael Eisner claims "The Frosty Piss dispenser is one of the most innovative concepts we have seen yet in domestic technology. Gone are the days where you had to brew your own Frosty Piss -- now, you can enjoy a tall steaming mug at any time of the day." Retail prices of the Frosty Piss dispenser have not been set.

    1. Re:Frosty Piss dispenser by Foobar+of+Borg · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Oh, come on, stupid mods! It's actually funny (though admittedly very childish) and on topic considering this is a Disney "House of the Future". What I want to know is - does it have a holographic projection room so my kids can pretend they are in the African Veldt?

  8. Home of the future... by DragonWriter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The 5000-square-foot house will appear normal from the outside but will house gadgets like lights and thermostats that automatically adjust when someone enters the room and countertops that can identify food placed on it and suggest recipes.


    So, technology that's been around for decades but not popular in homes, and technology that is a solution looking for a problem (if I've chosen to buy food, bring it home, and set it one the counter [or take it out of the fridge and set it on the counter] chances are I already had a use in mind—countertops that suggest recipes for food placed on them seem about as useful as as a closet that suggest where I might want to go based on the clothes I take out.)

    For $15 million, I'm not impressed.
    1. Re:Home of the future... by AvitarX · · Score: 5, Interesting

      What would be cool though is fridge that checks it´s contents and tells you recipes along with thigns you could make with just a little extra.

      It would solve the "there's nothing to make, but the fridge is full" dilemma.

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    2. Re:Home of the future... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      countertops that suggest recipes for food placed on them seem about as useful as as a closet that suggest where I might want to go based on the clothes I take out.

      Actually, they sound even less useful than your idea - that closet might at least be good for some shits and giggles.

      "You're dressing up slutty tonight! Would you like directions to the red light district?"
      *sounds of an expensive talking closet being turned into firewood by an axe*

    3. Re:Home of the future... by countSudoku() · · Score: 4, Funny

      Oh boy, I can't wait for the future house to tell me it's having a problem getting rid of a virus in the fridge-server and all my Choco-Tacos have melted! Then I'll set a nice tri-tip onto the counter and see if I can't get around the "Unrecognized Item on Counter! Abort, Retry, Ignore?" displayed on the inside of my eyelids. Future House I already hate you! :)

      Wake me when the house of the future runs on a platform that is secure and stable and relatively free of solutions in search of problems.

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    4. Re:Home of the future... by CreatureComfort · · Score: 1


      Yeah. The only part of this that I find really believable about features in a "House of Tomorrow" is the $15 Million price tag.

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      Impossible means not yet done." ~~ Julia Ecklar
    5. Re:Home of the future... by jedidiah · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Better yet, it keeps track of how long stuff has been in there or
      checks for chemical signs of spoilage. From this it can either tell
      you that it's time to clean things out or time for a "leftover casserole".

      "Warning: Jar on back of bottom shelf has not been touched in 123 days..."

      "The 6th Day" had a pretty good Future-Fridge.

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    6. Re:Home of the future... by gstoddart · · Score: 3, Informative

      So, technology that's been around for decades but not popular in homes, and technology that is a solution looking for a problem (if I've chosen to buy food, bring it home, and set it one the counter [or take it out of the fridge and set it on the counter] chances are I already had a use in mind

      Indeed. And, really, at what cost? Surely the current counter tops that most us have at under $10 / running foot aren't going to be something we replace with stuff which is as expensive as Corion or marble at more like $100 / running foot.

      Since nobody will ever be able to afford this level of technical indulgence, who the heck do they think will be buying it? Honestly, sometimes I think futurists are engaging in the worst sort of intellectual masturbation -- here's something which is completely impractical, that will never be wide spread or affordable, but let's pretend that in 20 years we'll all be using it.

      In the mean time, no flying cars, and the average schmuck still hasn't paid for his TV he bought on credit. Counter tops which suggest recipes will be something that only someone who can hire kitchen staff will be able to afford; in which case, they won't exactly need a suggestion, will they?

      The simple reality is, this is never going to be the house of the future, it's purely an intellectual exercise of what you can do with a boat load of someone else's money when you can charge someone admission to look at it. It's about as divorced from reality as you can get.

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    7. Re:Home of the future... by snarfies · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Oh, I don't know. The countertop recipe idea might not be so bad. I do a lot of cooking, myself, because I enjoy it. Sometimes I buy ingredients for a future recipe weeks in advance, especially if I find it on sale (frozen meat, spices, etc), and I may buy more than I immediately need to store for later use. Or I may want to use up something - I almost never cook anything involving cream because I know that most of the cream will go to waste after I'm done with the recipe it called for. If the counter can keep inventory of my food and suggest recipes based on that, well, that might be nice. Not a necessity, to be sure, but nice.

    8. Re:Home of the future... by slashdotmsiriv · · Score: 1

      "home, and set it one the counter [or take it out of the fridge and set it on the counter] chances are I already had a use in mind--countertops that suggest recipes for food placed on them seem about as useful as as a closet that suggest where I might want to go based on the clothes I take out."

      Actually I find both features quite useful. I may already have something in mind to cook already, but why not have the counter suggest something better
      or adjust the recipe? Also one may go shopping for generic ingredients (like tomatoes, potatoes) and have nothing specific in mind.
      Of course a feature that suggests recipes based on stuff you already have in the fridge could be even more useful!

      About the closet feature, why not? Very often I find myself and friends changing our minds on where we want to go at the last moment or having
      to adjust course due to unexpected events. Having the closet suggest alternative places based on how I am dressed wouldn't hurt at all. It would
      be nice if it could take other input too, like my mood etc. Even nicer to send the suggestions to my cellphone.

    9. Re:Home of the future... by geekoid · · Score: 1

      I designed a fridge that did that in about 2000. I could not get funding. Very frustrating, but it would take 12 mill to get it developed, prototyped, and an initial run of a hundred. But once the process was fined tuned it could ahve been become a commodity feature in all fridge while we got fees from licensing. We would have also built some high end consumer and industrial fridges.

      Id woulds have also allowed you to connect from outside the home, get a list of contents, as well as a shopping list based on history of purchase. A purchase being an item that comes into the fridge often. For examples, once the milk gets below have it would tell you. IWe actually called it a reminder list and frame it as nice hints but not as an absolute must.

      Oh well.

      P.S. before someone points out my spelling and grammar errors and says thats why I didn't generate interest, I assure you we had professionals prepare it, and others review it.

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    10. Re:Home of the future... by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      So, I assume the salary of the future will be approximately 60 times what it is now. My 5,000 square foot home cost me about 1/60th that much 5 years ago.

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    11. Re:Home of the future... by AltGrendel · · Score: 1

      That type argument has been made before: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitchen_debate

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    12. Re:Home of the future... by Walt+Dismal · · Score: 1
      "I'm not just a toaster! I can sing, too! And play MP3s! And -- I'd love to have your hot lips on my firm toast!"

      "Can you do bagels?"

      "I'm sorry, Dave. But do you want to hear me sing "Daisy, Daisy?"

    13. Re:Home of the future... by SomeoneGotMyNick · · Score: 1

      Having the closet suggest alternative places based on how I am dressed wouldn't hurt at all. It would
      be nice if it could take other input too, like my mood etc. Even nicer to send the suggestions to my cellphone. Closet: I see you are both lazy and bored enough to just grab cheap jeans and a t-shirt. Might I suggest the LAN party down the street? You aren't in the position to be picking up a date at the local club.
    14. Re:Home of the future... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Housux, it will be made out of open plans, you'll have the power to control the construction of everything on the house, but your furniture will start working a few years after you but them because the architects didn't provide drivers for it.

      Also you'll have a root who has access to everywhere in the house, but you can only enter your /room

    15. Re:Home of the future... by Damastus+the+WizLiz · · Score: 1

      Don't forget "You are adding cloths 2 sizes larger then those already in the closet." *Jenny Craig ad plays

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    16. Re:Home of the future... by mcrbids · · Score: 1

      In the mean time, no flying cars, and the average schmuck still hasn't paid for his TV he bought on credit. Counter tops which suggest recipes will be something that only someone who can hire kitchen staff will be able to afford; in which case, they won't exactly need a suggestion, will they?

      I won't comment on marble counter tops. But I can comment on the "flying cars" problem. It's not a problem of technology, it's not a problem of implementability, that was proven 30 years ago.

      The problem isn't the car. It's the driver.

      It's easy to drive a car. Mostly, you follow the yellow line in the middle of the road, and remember where to turn.

      But aircraft are a completely different thing altogether. You have to know exactly where you are every single second. You have to deal with location, weather, traffic control, altitude, and airspeed. Landing can be a total bitch until you "get the hang of it".

      It costs a few hundred bucks to get a driver's license, if you include education, training, driving time, etc.

      For most people, it costs about $10,000 to become a basic, VFR (Visual Flight Rules - good weather only) private pilot. It costs considerably more to earn ratings for flying in bad weather, (IFR = Instrument Flight Rules) High Performance aircraft (over 200 HP) complex aircraft (those with retractable landing gear) or to operate a plane for pay. (Commercial License)

      It's expensive. Only about 650,000 people in a nation of 300,000,000 have bothered. The result is a very, very, very small marketplace, where even certified aircraft are essentially hand-made, one-by-one. A good percentage of planes are 'experimental' which often means (literally) built in somebody's garage.

      Yes, I'm a pilot. Flying is a damned good way to solve the problem of extra spending money - it's also damned fun to do! The hard part is getting the wife to buy into it...

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    17. Re:Home of the future... by kcwhitta · · Score: 1

      Check out http://www.supercook.com/. It'll do just that: you enter the stuff you have in your kitchen, and it'll display a ton of recipes you can make from them.

    18. Re:Home of the future... by gslj · · Score: 1

      Count Sudoku() says "Wake me when the house of the future runs on a platform that is secure and stable and relatively free of solutions in search of problems."

      Would that be a concrete foundation?

      -Gareth

    19. Re:Home of the future... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know that most of the cream will go to waste after I'm done with the recipe it called for.

      I've been "working on" (read: someday...) a recipe database that would store not only the ingredients and the instructions, but the intermediate steps, so that after making breaded catfish, you can find other recipes using an egg+milk mixture (ok, probably not that good of an idea after raw catfish was in it, but you get the idea).

    20. Re:Home of the future... by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      Based on your age, height, and weight, House cannot legally allow you to put on those clothes. How about a pair of sweat pants or a mu-mu?

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    21. Re:Home of the future... by Sir+Holo · · Score: 1

      What would be cool though is fridge that checks its contents and tells you recipes along with thigns you could make with just a little extra. Now that's an idea with loads of upside marketing potential!
    22. Re:Home of the future... by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      I won't comment on marble counter tops. But I can comment on the "flying cars" problem. It's not a problem of technology, it's not a problem of implementability, that was proven 30 years ago.

      You miss my point. I don't pine for the flying car -- that was never practical, and always dangerous. But it just sounded so cool everyone bought into the idea they'd have one by now. It's just sort of the uber example of what futurists think will happen.

      But, when people come up with impractical demonstrations and claim that in 50 years, everyone will have it, it's mostly just a mental exercise. It's fairly divorced from reality.

      It's neat to think of things which could happen in the future. But, that doesn't mean that such things can or will become widespread. Flying cars were no more of a plausible, widespread reality then as they are now. Neither, are many of these ideas -- they're neat toys that engineers can conceptualize, but they're mostly just that.

      As you say, expensive, impractical, and only a very small percentage of the populace will ever be able to afford it. Toys for people with extra spending money, but utterly inconsequential for everyone else. :-P

      I'm not saying we shouldn't let engineers run wild and dream -- I'm just saying that to seriously claim this could be the "house of the future" is burying your head up your ass and hoping in the future we'll have infinite resources and energy. Some of these things will show up in the homes of people like Larry Ellison, the rest of us ... not so much.

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    23. Re:Home of the future... by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      I won't comment on marble counter tops. But I can comment on the "flying cars" problem. It's not a problem of technology, it's not a problem of implementability, that was proven 30 years ago.

      The problem isn't the car. It's the driver.


      Not exactly true. You're talking about airplanes, not "flying cars". A "flying car" would have to be a VTOL vehicle, and would certainly resemble Moller's SkyCar more than any airplane. You can't fly your airplane to your office; airplanes require landing strips, which take tons of land. Helicopters could be used as well, but those are notoriously difficult to fly (my wife is a helicopter pilot), far more so than fixed-wing aircraft. And vehicles like Moller's SkyCar aren't even technologically feasible just yet; highly advanced control systems are required to make them stable.

    24. Re:Home of the future... by MBGMorden · · Score: 1

      For most people, it costs about $10,000 to become a basic, VFR (Visual Flight Rules - good weather only) private pilot. ...

      Yes, I'm a pilot. Flying is a damned good way to solve the problem of extra spending money - it's also damned fun to do! The hard part is getting the wife to buy into it... $10k is a bit high. I'm sure there are some people who spend that much, but it's not at all necessary. I spent about $4500 on my training (been finished a little over a year now) and there are still places that if you're really thrifty and a quick learner, you can do it for around $3000.

      Main thing is to go for an independent instructor. Schools charge a lot, and typically little of that goes to the instructor themselves. My instructor charged/charges $25 per hour in the air and $15 ground school (of which I only needed about 4-5 hours). I've seen instructors for as low as $20 an hour before though (and these guys were retired military - not the 21 year olds just putting in their CFI time before looking to join an airline).

      Second thing is what plane you train in. I went with a tried and true Cessna 150. A little cramped, and not very fast, but they are cheap, reliable, and these had Auto-gas STC's which made running them even cheaper. $50 wet when I started but after gas got expensive it went up to $60 wet. Interestingly enough the 150 I flew was full IFR and even had an integrated GPS system.

      Go those routes, and stick with good old fashioned paper books for studying instead of the insanely expensive DVD stuff, and you can get into the air on a budget. I'm now looking at purchasing my own plane. Likely candidates right now are a Grumman Yankee or a Piper Tomahawk. Both of those can be found for $18-25k. My ultimate goal is to build my own though. I'm really set on a Zenith Zodiac 601XL with a Chevy Corvair engine whenever I decide to take that leap :).

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    25. Re:Home of the future... by tknd · · Score: 1

      I've always thought a refrigerator that could tell you what is inside and for how long it has been in there would be pretty darn useful. In fact, it may even be possible today if you act a little clever.

      For example the simplest solution is simply to take the door and make it a window. The problem is the window probably is not good insulation or needs to be designed in such a way that it maintains insulation. With a window, you can now see what's inside without opening the fridge (saves money by preventing unnecessary opens). This doesn't address the issue of how long stuff has been in there though or the issue of stuff getting forgotten and left in the back for years.

      With more advanced tech, you could probably come pretty darn close. For example if you attached an RFID to each object the object's container, you could keep a pretty good track of what objects have been in there and for how long. So if Tupperware containers came with RFIDs, the fridge could keep track of the item and display on an LCD on the fridge door "Tupperware (Round, 7 inch, Age: 3 days)". With things like produce and fruits you'd have to put the RFID on the bag. The age of the item alone is probably enough to estimate if the food has spoiled or not. So things in Tupperware or bags would probably be bad after a week or two. Stuff in bottles probably months. The only issue this doesn't solve is determining the exact location of the object inside of the fridge and you'd have to have a pretty clever solution for letting the fridge understand when an object's age should reset. For example if you take the Tupperware out but leave the contents inside and put it back, then the fridge would have to figure out if the age should be reset or if it should continue aging.

      Regardless probably the most useful thing about a fridge that understands what is inside is probably the idea that it could automatically generate grocery lists and order items automatically when they're needed. For example if milk bottles had RFIDs embedded and there was a database the fridge could access to determine the expiration date of the milk based on the RFID, then the fridge could order a bottle of milk and have it delivered and arrive just before the old milk bottle expires. Now rather than doing groceries, your fridge is doing groceries for you (and all those "Got Milk" commercials will be a thing of the past).

      Another idea is that you can now connect to your fridge from the internet and before you go home or while you're at the grocery store, you can see if it really is worth buying more of what you need or not. So if during work you thought "I'll have lasagna tonight" but I don't know if you have the ingredients, you could just connect to your fridge and see what's inside without being home! Then you find out that the cheese has been in there for a year, so it might be a good idea to stop by the store before heading home.

      The only problem with this is that regular people probably are not willing to pay for this kind of tech; people don't want to pay an extra 5 or 10 cents just to have their products tagged and possibly an extra couple hundred or so just to have a smart fridge. So this idea will probably have to be pushed by the supermarket companies. What do companies have to gain? Well the initial thought would be the Google approach and slap a lcd to the fridge, and display something like "$1 off Cheerios if you order it now" if you have a customer that happens to consume a large amount of milk.

      But nobody wants their fridge to flash ads in their kitchen, they want their fridge to look beautiful while keeping food fresh. So I say what the grocery companies can benefit from by providing this extra service is an opportunity to change their inventory management and their sales model. This is possible because the companies could have a database of every customer's fridge and their consumption. Based on this data, you could create and inventory and distribution system at the supermarket that would order products just as they'

    26. Re:Home of the future... by dangitman · · Score: 1

      And the voice of House is played by Hugh Laurie.

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    27. Re:Home of the future... by zenkonami · · Score: 1

      In the mean time, no flying cars Really, people. You don't want flying cars. Think about it. Assuming it were at all economical to own one, you get more smog and noise pollution, a cluttered sky, increased likelihood of bad accidents (with cars on land it's not too often one comes crashing down on your house)...plus, you'd have to learn a whole new set of navigation tools. GPS could remedy the navigation to some degree, but flying, though well within the reach of most people technically, may not be within the reach of their patience. You think there's road rage now? People aren't watching the road? It's much more difficult to spot traffic in the air, and on top of any other stresses people have had throughout the day, you now have to deal with an added dimension and additional physics.

      Isn't the idea to make your life easier?

      Of course, what do I know. In all likelihood the cars will fly themselves, sticking to well defined skyways - freeing you up to watch movies, talk on the phone and do your hair, all the while doing it without noise on hydrogen fuel cell engines (humidity would be mitigated by giant dew traps throughout the city.) Oh, and there will be world peace.

      That said, I completely agree with the poster's assessment of most futurists.
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    28. Re:Home of the future... by mcrbids · · Score: 1

      Yes! You can go cheaper! I was giving a more average cost. I paid more to go to a school at my local airport. I learned in a C172. I could have gone the cheaper route, but it was not nearly as convenient.

      Go those routes, and stick with good old fashioned paper books for studying instead of the insanely expensive DVD stuff, and you can get into the air on a budget. I'm now looking at purchasing my own plane. Likely candidates right now are a Grumman Yankee or a Piper Tomahawk. Both of those can be found for $18-25k. My ultimate goal is to build my own though. I'm really set on a Zenith Zodiac 601XL with a Chevy Corvair engine whenever I decide to take that leap :).

      Personally, I'm pining for a Cozy Mk IV or a Long EZ, with a Lycoming IO 320 or 360 engine... Wish I had the time to build, but it's not uncommon to see these between $18k and $30k.

      I'd be leery of any plane running a converted auto-engine - the crankshafts just really aren't made for the continuous torsional stresses a prop gives, and aircraft engines are run considerably harder than car engines. EG: Airplanes routinely cruise at about 75% full throttle, but cars rarely run more than 25% or so on the freeway.

      I've been watching the HB lists for a while now, and just in the past year, there have been a number of crankshaft breakages in the Corvair conversions starting about 100 - 150 hours.

      Yikes! Not for me.

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    29. Re:Home of the future... by zenkonami · · Score: 1

      YES!!! This is just what we need. An intelligent home that insults us.

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    30. Re:Home of the future... by Limbo+Socrates · · Score: 1

      But when you try and throw it away does the refrigerator stop you and say, "Are you sure you want to throw away leftover jar?"

      And then when you say yes, it says, "We need to confirm that you wish to throw away leftover jar."

      And then when you say yes, does the entire house lock down, the lights dim and say, "refigerator needs your permission to continue." before you can actually get rid of it? ...cause I'm thinking that grocery day is going to be a real bitch.

    31. Re:Home of the future... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      It would solve the "there's nothing to make, but the fridge is full" dilemma.
      If that's an issue, you need to practice cooking more. If you have a decent set of basic ingredients (butter, sugar, flour, eggs, a couple types of noodles (dry)), it would take a very, very weird selection of food in the fridge to prevent making an interesting, creative meal.

      I find "there's nothing in the fridge to make anything from" is the more common dilemma.

    32. Re:Home of the future... by RicktheBrick · · Score: 1

      My house of the future will not even have a refrigerator or even a kitchen. All meals will be prepared and delivered by robots. That will even be cheaper than preparing one's own food. Everything in every room will be in seal able containers so that cleaning will be done be robots using a water hose. My house will talk to me just as if it were a real person. It will know who is in the house and why. It will communicate with all appliances and know why any of them are working. It will know why there is flow of any kind anywhere and have the ability to shut it off if there is no reason for it(leak). My house will know if there is any thing wrong with any of the occupants and if any need any help of any kind. It will be built underground and so water proof that one will be able to stay there even in a flood. Only a very violent earthquake will be able to cause damage to it. Every house will have a unique address and since it will be underground the only way to get there will be in a automated vehicle. Only those who call ahead and get permission will be able to stop at that address. It will be totally sound proof and totally secure both environmentally and physically.

    33. Re:Home of the future... by MBGMorden · · Score: 1

      I'd be leery of any plane running a converted auto-engine - the crankshafts just really aren't made for the continuous torsional stresses a prop gives, and aircraft engines are run considerably harder than car engines. EG: Airplanes routinely cruise at about 75% full throttle, but cars rarely run more than 25% or so on the freeway. A lot of them are not run at their max throttle though (or rather, their "max" throttle for aircraft usage is considered notably lower). Most of the crankshaft problems with the Corvair engines seem to be alleviated by first having it magnafluxed to check for any existing stress, and then having it nitrided if it checks out. There were only a few broken cranks that I am aware of (and I did hear of any resulting in a fatality, though Mark Langford ended up gliding a good ways to make it back to the field when his broke), and none were nitrided. Most cases that I'm familiar with repaired the engines with the improved crankshafts and are flying again.

      I certainly wouldn't hop into an unmodified one, but William Wynne has done a lot of testing on what works and doesn't with these engines. Most used engines go for around $500-600, and they can be rebuilt to like-new condition and modded for aircraft use for about a $3k investment. That's less than most used purpose built aircraft engines, and this engine has been rebuilt to virtually new condition. Plus if you do the work yourself, you're going to be intimately familiar with how it works, so given that most homebuilders dot their own inspections and maintenance, that's a big plus.

      I'd certainly feel more comfortable with one of those than a Jabiru or a Rotax. Heard lots of stories about the Jabiru's just quiting up there. 4-cycle Rotax's aren't supposed to be too unreliable, but their high RPM just makes me nervous. I flew a Kitfox Classic IV with an 80hp Rotax (I think it was a 912) and normal cruise was around 6000 RPM. Being used to flying behind a Continental O-200, it sounded like that little Rotax was going to explode any minute :).
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    34. Re:Home of the future... by thekm · · Score: 1

      sure... but it could do more than that!...
      ...what if you put some incense, a spatula, tube of KY, six pack of ping-pong balls on the counter!?... imagine the fun and games it could suggest!

      "it looks like you're trying to have an orgy..."


    35. Re:Home of the future... by BeanThere · · Score: 1

      It's more of a marketing exercise than an intellectual exercise.

    36. Re:Home of the future... by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      Therein is the problem.

      Home automation. Been there, old hat. Not this useless Microsoft crap but the real stuff from Crestron. I can do ANYTHING they plan on and with near 100% reliability. hell want to have the music you are listening to follow you in the home? Done that as well with RFID tags and doorway readers.

      The kitchen crap is 100% useless fodder, I have shown clients the demos of that and they had zero interest in it. How about a 8" touchscreen in the wall that will announce a car entering the drive and show you or announcing and switching to the camera when the kids get off the bus? Or better yet letting you know the spouse is home? Already did all of that as well. Oh it can also access your collection of recipies as well as control the whole house and show you video or tune in a tv station (or better yet control that 28" HDTV above the fridge taht is built in the cabinet.)

      It's not the house of tomorrow. It's the house of today. And even the rich people that call themselves middle class ($150,000-$250,000 income levels) are buying it now instead of the rich and famous.

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    37. Re:Home of the future... by zoney_ie · · Score: 1

      Ten years ago nevermind 20 I couldn't have imagined laptop computers being ubiquitous enough that in 2008 pretty much my entire family has one and can fill the kitchen table with them if everyone is using them at once. In fairness, that's pretty far out!

      Nevermind mobile phones, which again, much more than 10 years ago and it seemed laughable that everyone would have one.

      Sat-nav in the car is also the stuff of past "intellectual masturbation" as you term it.

      Flat panel screens are another thing we take for granted, forgetting the feeling we had seeing them at an affordable price not much more than 5 years ago.

      How about going from floppy disks to USB drives or microSD cards? Having storage cheap enough to fill it first with music, and now with video?

      The concept of how pervasive the Internet is today is also surely the stuff of past "intellectual masturbation". It's a far cry from even ten years ago when dial-up first became commonly available here in Ireland.

      Nope, 20 years ago, modern living and technology would have seemed a pipedream to most. To those who had the foresight to see clearly the way things would go (at least in general terms), most people would have laughed at them.

      Besides, no flying cars but the cars of today are space-age compared to 20 years ago (which were little more than metal boxes on wheels with a primitive manually controlled entirely mechanical drive system). They even look like the seemingly absurd drawings of more than 20 years ago. In 20 years time, cars will be rather different to today.

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    38. Re:Home of the future... by Uzuri · · Score: 1

      A window to the inside of the fridge would be ugly, too. I can just imaging my mother, who likes to have things neat, reorganizing the fridge so it looks nice for guests.

      How about a dual-layer door? Open the shell (opaque, magnetic for those pictures of the kids or reminders to clean the gutters) and look through the window without letting cold air out and hot in. Open the whole thing to get food.

      Not techy enough, though, for this discussion :)

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  9. Bathroom jokes by SoundGuyNoise · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oh the possibilites... - What happens if I'm in the shower and the OS crashes? Will it never turn off? - Will the toilet only accept one kind of input? - Will the house "phone home" to let said manufacturers know what I do in the house? (For statistics only, no personal information of course) - Will my furniture be compatible with the floor? - What if the fridge is stuck in an infinite loop and keeps ordering me eggs? - Can it defrag my junk drawer?

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    1. Re:Bathroom jokes by sconeu · · Score: 4, Funny

      Will the toilet only accept one kind of input?

      G-d, I hope not. It had better take at least two kinds of input (or two kinds of your output). Preferably at least three (if you get sick and need to shout into the great white telephone).

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    2. Re:Bathroom jokes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You really need to get a life.

    3. Re:Bathroom jokes by cvd6262 · · Score: 1

      Will the toilet only accept one kind of input?

      No, but you'll need a per-seat license.

      [Bud-dum-dum]

      Thanks! You're great. Remember to tip your servers...

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    4. Re:Bathroom jokes by sm62704 · · Score: 1

      Great white telephone?

      You mean "praying to Ralph Blog at the porcelain altar" don't you?

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    5. Re:Bathroom jokes by mcmonkey · · Score: 1

      Will the toilet only accept one kind of input?

      I just worry about the toilet becoming interactive. Input is okay...I just don't want any output.

    6. Re:Bathroom jokes by JonWan · · Score: 4, Funny

      Or worse... they install clippy.

      "I see you're trying to masterbate, Would you like me to show you a picture of:"

      1. Britney Spears nude.
      2. Goatse.
      3. Natalie Portman petrified and covered in grits.

    7. Re:Bathroom jokes by barzok · · Score: 1

      Remember, kids. Garbage In, Garbage Out.

    8. Re:Bathroom jokes by Hawkeye05 · · Score: 1

      You, Sir, have made my month with the Great White Telephone Remark, Thank You, I will treasure that phrase for the rest of my life.

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    9. Re:Bathroom jokes by stewbee · · Score: 1

      Who hasn't seen Britney's female parts yet?

      I will go with the Natalie Portman option, please.

    10. Re:Bathroom jokes by urcreepyneighbor · · Score: 1

      1. Britney Spears nude. ...which version?
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  10. GE House by Bob+McCown · · Score: 1


    I hope its not like the GE house they had/have in Pittsfield, MA. It was supposed to be some modern house, listening to you talk, automated curtains, etc, but really was a guy in a hidden closet listening, and throwing switches.

    1. Re:GE House by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      I hope its not like the GE house they had/have in Pittsfield, MA. It was supposed to be some modern house, listening to you talk, automated curtains, etc, but really was a guy in a hidden closet listening, and throwing switches.

      "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain".

      Cheers
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    2. Re:GE House by EricTheGreen · · Score: 1

      Victorian-era people called said gentleman a "butler". I never realized how ahead of their time they actually were until now...

  11. DID DISNEY THINK ABOUT..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    DRM? You just gotta wonder that if it's the "HOME OF TOMORROW", if it's going to have a DRM restriction policy inherently built in so that the RIAA/MPAA/IFPI/MAFIAA can keep track of all their material....Will it operate on Windows VISTA/Windows 7?

  12. China makes sense by Subgenius · · Score: 2, Informative

    Of course, it makes sense that they are planning a trip to China, since all of the stuff in house was probably made there, and after the next big credit crunch, they might even be going overseas to pay forced-homage to the mortgage lender.

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  13. Great. A house that nags by ishmalius · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As if we didn't hear enough "suggestions" in our daily lives. Didn't Ray Bradbury kill his house for this very same reason?

  14. Clippy lives! by hausen · · Score: 1

    ... countertops that can identify food placed on it and suggest recipes. Don't know why, but I think that was a suggestion from Microsoft...
    "I have seen that you have placed a glass of water on the counter. Would you like to view recipes containing 'water'?"
  15. I'm not sure which would be harder to believe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A flying car in the driveway or a collection of HD-DVDs in the living room...

  16. I know! by Stanistani · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The house of the future is a yurt.

  17. Impossible Future? by drapeau06 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Shouldn't a "house of the future" be smaller than current houses? If they are to be available to all humans, I mean.

    Also, I still have hope that USians will start using the metric system someday... so overall, I'd suggest that a more sensible house of the future would be about 100 or 200 square metres.

    1. Re:Impossible Future? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shouldn't a "house of the future" be smaller than current houses? If they are to be available to all humans, I mean. Not after the global warming conspirators kill^H^H^H^Heliminate^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hreduce the global population by 90%.
    2. Re:Impossible Future? by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      Do you like... Clean, or anything?

      Do you really want to tidy up 5000sqft of house?

      Do you even understand how much house that is?

      I'd like to better use the space I have and make
      it seem larger rather than finding new and
      intereting ways of figuring out how to make the
      Clampett Mansion feel like the Clampett Shack.

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    3. Re:Impossible Future? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shouldn't a "house of the future" be smaller than current houses? If they are to be available to all humans, I mean.


      Nope, they are selling fantasy and illusion to the public to keep them distracted with bread and circuses.

      Note the "family trip to China" ignoring the fact that it's a fascist, communist nation of human rights violators and political prisoners -- they should be our mortal enemies. But I guess it's not much different than the future of America either.
    4. Re:Impossible Future? by soxos · · Score: 1

      Also, I still have hope that USians will start using the metric system someday... so overall, I'd suggest that a more sensible house of the future would be about 100 or 200 square metres.
      Good luck. I don't know what would cause a bigger uproar. Imposing the metric system, or changing our spelling to metre.
    5. Re:Impossible Future? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even if we switch to the metric system, it'll be square "meters".

    6. Re:Impossible Future? by drapeau06 · · Score: 1

      The SI base unit of length is the metre. Your wacky "meter" is, in some circles, accepted as an alternative spelling.

      According to the OED, although Thomas Jefferson suggested "metre" as a unit of "capacity" (roughly one hundredth of a bushel) in 1790, the term was used for the measurement of length instead. The term and spelling "metre" has thus been in continuous use in English for more than two hundred years.

    7. Re:Impossible Future? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tidy? Clean? Isn't that what imported Mexicans are for?

    8. Re:Impossible Future? by drapeau06 · · Score: 1

      Alternative spellings, like your "meter", are okay, if inelegant... just please don't make the erroneous claim that that's the only correct spelling of the word.

    9. Re:Impossible Future? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To cope with overpopulation, houses of the future will have a footprint of 1 square metre and be 200 metres tall.

    10. Re:Impossible Future? by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      Note the "family trip to China" ignoring the fact that it's a fascist, communist nation of human rights violators and political prisoners -- they should be our mortal enemies.

      Wrong.

      For one, China is NOT a communist country; it's only communist in name. Communism is an economic system, yet China is clearly a free-market economy. China is a capitalist nation operating under a single-party authoritarian regime.

      Second, China should not be our mortal enemies, because they're exactly like us. Capitalist? Same. Single-party government? Same again (except that our national party has two flavors who differ only on very minor points, but otherwise are essentially the same). Authoritarian? Getting there quickly, and in some ways we're worse off than them in that regard. Remember, the USA has a higher per-capita prison population than any other country, including China.

      The truth is that our leaders see China as exactly the way they want the USA to be, so they're pushing us that way, and our people are willingly going there as long as they're "protected from terrorists".

      But I guess it's not much different than the future of America either.

      It's not much different than present America.

    11. Re:Impossible Future? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Really, drapeau? "USians"?

    12. Re:Impossible Future? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I still have hope that USians will start using the metric system someday... Your first point about the crassness of a 5000 square foot house is spot on.

      However, I don't believe the metric system is always superior. Different number systems have different strengths. I can easily divide 12 by 2, 3, 4, and 6. That's useful. Try that with the number 10.

    13. Re:Impossible Future? by enjerth · · Score: 1

      Remember, the USA has a higher per-capita prison population than any other country, including China. Yeah, I think that has something to do with the fact that, in China, the death penalty is given more liberally and executed more swiftly. That and the people are afraid of their government. I think the two might be related.

      We don't even kill most of our criminals who are sentenced to death.
    14. Re:Impossible Future? by zenkonami · · Score: 1

      Shouldn't a "house of the future" be smaller than current houses? If they are to be available to all humans, I mean. "I hear the directors of Genetic Control have been buying all the
      properties that have recently been sold, taking risks oh so bold.
      It's said now that people will be shorter in height,
      they can fit twice as many in the same building site.
      (they say it's alright)

      - Genesis, "Get Em Out By Friday"

      Never thought I'd get to use that one on slashdot.
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    15. Re:Impossible Future? by NiteShaed · · Score: 1

      Also, I still have hope that USians will start using the metric system someday...

      And I still have hope that people will give up on the use of the absurd moniker of "USians" when they mean "United States citizens" or.....oooo, look, I'm gonna say it....."Americans". For the moment neither of us seem likely to get what we want.
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    16. Re:Impossible Future? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Personally, I'd prefer a house measured in cubic meters.

    17. Re:Impossible Future? by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      Actually lots of us sane people are looking at that. High efficiency just right homes. A family of 4 can easily be raised in a properly build 850 sq foot home and be very comfortable AND even have a home theater with a 10' Screen. (living room turns into home theater)

      Problem is most Americans here are incredibly stupid and believe that they need a "small" 4000 sq foot home. and anythign smaller shows they are failures.

      It's insane when I help wire up the whole house audio on a 8500 sq foot home with 12 sources and 16 zones onyl to find out only 2 people who never had kids are going to live there.

      Well live is a relative term, they will be there for 2-3 days a month, the rest of the time they are working.

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    18. Re:Impossible Future? by calidoscope · · Score: 1

      The SI base unit of length is the metre. Your wacky "meter" is, in some circles, accepted as an alternative spelling.


      Making snide remarks about the spelling of meter/metre is one of the worst ways of convincing the US in adopting the metric system for common usage (bearing in mind that 1 inch is defined as 25.4mm - except for the USGS). Don't get me started on the letter vs A4 paper size.


      Now a truly rational standard for length would be the distance traveled by light in a vacuum in a nanosecond - which works out to be 0.984 feet. One of Jefferson's ideas was to have the units of length as decimal fractions of a nautical mile (which is still useful if latitude and longitude are given in degrees minutes seconds) - another was to base it on the length of a second's rod (a pedulum of that length would have a period of 1 second), which could be determined in any laboratory.

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    19. Re:Impossible Future? by calidoscope · · Score: 1

      Good one - though I wonder how many Slashdot readers would be familiar with that song - first heard it on Genesis Live.

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      A Shadeless room is a brighter room.
    20. Re:Impossible Future? by drapeau06 · · Score: 1

      Making snide remarks about the spelling of meter/metre is one of the worst ways of convincing the US in adopting the metric system for common usage[...].

      I'm suprised you feel that this is a method of convincing the US at all.

      I have hope because I'm kind-hearted and I generally have hope for the improvement of backward folk, not because I'm actively trying to speed widespread US adoption of this particular international standard, nor even because I pine for the metric system. (Where I live, folks have been using the metric system, e.g., on retail product packaging, since before I was born.)

    21. Re:Impossible Future? by drapeau06 · · Score: 1

      You know what I mean, right? That's communication for you.

      "USers", if you prefer... or "International Bullies"... or "folks that seem to forget where the Statue of Liberty came from"...

    22. Re:Impossible Future? by drapeau06 · · Score: 1

      Useful, aye, but more useful than a truly global standard?

      And how easily does 5 divide into 12? 6 into 20?

    23. Re:Impossible Future? by soxos · · Score: 1

      I never made that claim :). You have my total agreement. There are others, however...

    24. Re:Impossible Future? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, I know what you mean. You believe that Americans are ignorant and unworthy of your respect because you are a bigot. "Communication," natch.

      What I'd prefer is that when you refer in English to things of or relating to the United States of America, you use the proper demonym.

  18. Additional feature by rossz · · Score: 3, Funny

    What's not mentioned is that DRM will be built right into your house. It will prevent you from doing anything that Disney considers a violation of intellectual property (as Disney defines it). That means your VCR won't record. Your DVR will self-destruct. Your computer won't download music or videos. You CDs will be locked to the first player you use the disc in. Your original and priceless manuscript of Grimm's Fairy Tales will smolder and burn (Disney now owns all that). iPods and other MP3 players will have permanent memory corruption. You'll be sent a bill for royalties if it detects you singing copyrighted songs in the shower (and the "Happy Birthday" song you sing for your kid on his third birthday).

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    -- Will program for bandwidth
    1. Re:Additional feature by thanatos_x · · Score: 1

      The house of the future and we're not even using Betamax?! They lie!

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    2. Re:Additional feature by Creepy · · Score: 4, Funny

      not only that - the friendly Microsoft voice activated software will help you run your home

      ~~Home of the Future Premium Edition~~
      me: Computer! shower on.
      computer: warning - this will change your current hardware settings, which requires admin approval - are you sure you want to do that? Say 'yes' to continue, 'no' to cancel.
      me: yes
      ~shower turns on cold water~
      me: computer - set water to 36 degrees
      computer: sets temp.
      me: computer -this is still freezing - I said use Celsius yesterday - don't you learn?
      computer: command not understood.
      me: computer: set water to 36 degrees CELSIUS
      computer: this is a US based system and only allows Fahrenheit temperatures. For international measurement packs, install House of the Future Ultimate Edition.
      me: *%*#%*^ - computer - set temp to 98F!
      computer: House temperature is now set to 98 degrees Fahrenheit.
      me: aaargh - no computer, set shower water temperature to 98F and house temp to 70F.
      computer: shower water temp set to 98F. please enter commands one at a time.
      me: computer: set house temp to 70F.
      computer: house temp set to 70F
      ~~shower~~
      me: computer - shower off
      computer: warning - this will change your current hardware settings, which requires admin approval - are you sure you want to do that? Say 'yes' to continue, 'no' to cancel.
      me: yes!
      ~~shower turns off~~

  19. House of the future compatible with today? by HalAtWork · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Wouldn't the house of the future be made up of easily interchangable parts that can be easily retrofitted to existing structures? It wouldn't be something designed from the ground up with today's bleeding-edge technologies. Part of the hassle of doing work in the houses of today are parts, fixtures, or even the location of holes, that are of a new standard and plain just don't work with anything else.

    1. Re:House of the future compatible with today? by Xtravar · · Score: 2, Funny

      They already make houses out of materials which exhibit the properties you seek.

      They're called "Legos".

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    2. Re:House of the future compatible with today? by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      I've imagined an immersive 3D game where one wore a power loader and moved 4'x8' lego blocks around. That would be cool!

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      I drank what? -- Socrates
  20. our own little worlds by Statecraftsman · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Much of the project will showcase a network that makes the house "smart" and follows family members from room to room - even adjusting artwork - to preset personal preferences.
    Does anyone get the feeling that we're all increasingly seeing what we want to see? Headphones and ipods mean we're less often exposed to the music of our parents, friends, and coworkers. We all go to our own favorite websites to check news(be it factual, entertaining, or agreeable) or socialize or whatever. We spend hours and hours in whole virtual worlds that are difficult to appreciate or explain without having spent those many hours there.

    While I think it would be awesome to see the art and decor transform depending on who walks into a room...this just highlights to me that we may become more disconnected from each other as we optimize the digital world to our own personal likes. Not that it's bad...maybe we were all meant to relate to each other through screens, keyboards, and mice. Maybe the benefit of the digital world is that it provides a better way to share experience when we choose. Either way, it's good to recognize what's going on.
    1. Re:our own little worlds by bcattwoo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I totally agree. For example, cellphones, Blackberries, etc, make it easier for us to stay in touch with people far away while increasingly distancing ourselves from those right around us. And now, instead of having the kids bugging you in the car, you just pop a DVD in for them. Even having listening to the DVD audio is too much to ask, you say? Upgrade to the wireless headphones!

    2. Re:our own little worlds by enjahova · · Score: 1

      Seeing what we want to see doesn't sound so bad when you think of how things were, seeing what THEY want us to see. I think people have way more musical choice now, even with ipods and headphones. The music of our parents was broadcast on every station and available for sale in every store, if we want it, we know where to find it, but we have so much more choice now. We all go to our own favorite websites to keep up to date, rather than tuning into one of a few channels where somebody else decides in what order and about what subjects I will be hearing about current affairs.

      Less connected? I don't think so, my friend hears something she loves and links me, I want to show something so I upload it or copy it to a flash drive. As you said, we can share more, and more often. I do agree that it is important to recognize what is happening, and we should be looking at ways we can take advantage of all the digital technologies to enhance our analog lives. I also don't think this Disney house is going to do that.

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      "how can they call it a MINE if everything here is THEIRS?!?!" -Straight Jacket
    3. Re:our own little worlds by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      Headphones and ipods mean we're less often exposed to the music of our parents, friends, and coworkers.

      I don't see how this is a problem. Most people I know (esp. cow-orkers and parents, and many friends) listen to terrible music.

      It's too bad headphones can't be used in cars. Hopefully in the future, we'll have in-car stereo systems which can allow the driver and passenger to listen to totally different music, without wearing headphones, and still be able to talk to each other.

    4. Re:our own little worlds by syousef · · Score: 1

      I didn't like what you were saying so I decided to stop reading and went to my favourite website instead.

      (Moderators this is a JOKE not a troll)

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      These posts express my own personal views, not those of my employer
    5. Re:our own little worlds by Elbowgeek · · Score: 1

      You're not the first to ruminate on this subject. Some 18 years ago (or maybe less), when the big proprietary networks such as Compuserve were becoming popular, they launched a service whereby one could receive only news items which suited the subscribers' preferences. At the time various pundits wrote almost the exact words you just did, which is interesting. And yes, it's very true.

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      Who is this delectable creature with an insatiable love of the dead?
  21. A more likely scenario... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Would be a Chinese family going for a trip to the USA

    1. Re:A more likely scenario... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Yeah, but who the fuck wants to see the inside of a cargo hold?

  22. It's not the house of THE future by Itninja · · Score: 1

    It's the house of THEIR future. 'They' being the megalithic companies that sponsor this type of thing. I bet their won't be any Linux-based appliances (i.e. Tivos) in there. Or any Jonathan Coulton music playing. Or anything else that's open-source. Down with everything! Just don't take away my XBox....oh wait.

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  23. The house of the future will be sans tech by Ralph+Spoilsport · · Score: 1
    this is a photo of the house of the future:

    Grass Hut

    RS

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    Shoes for Industry. Shoes for the Dead.
  24. What about urinalysis? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Every time you use the WC, your urine and/or feces could be checked for the early signs of health issues.

    It'd be great 'til somebody flushed some spaghetti sauce instead of putting it in the trash bin.

    1. Re:What about urinalysis? by CreatureComfort · · Score: 1


      And the Senate will decide that there is no liability for the home manufacturer when they provide the 'complimentary drug analysis' to the DEA on request with no warrant.

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      "Unheard of means only it's undreamed of yet,
      Impossible means not yet done." ~~ Julia Ecklar
    2. Re:What about urinalysis? by sm62704 · · Score: 1

      I expect that the urinalysis will be government mandated.

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      mcgrew's razor: Never attribute to stupidity that which can be explained by greedy self-interest
    3. Re:What about urinalysis? by Grishnakh · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Discovery Channel had a show about this called 2057. The toilet checked your urine for drug usage, and if it detected it, notified your insurance company who then canceled your health insurance. So in the show, a guy who drank some alcohol on the weekend got his insurance canceled while he was in the ER because he fell out a window (unrelated to the alcohol).

      No thanks. I have no interest in this "smart house" crap at all. In the future, I want a house that's extremely eco-friendly (and consequently has no utility bills), but all this intrusive technology connected to mega-corporations I have no interest in.

    4. Re:What about urinalysis? by mikiN · · Score: 1

      ...and subcontracted to McAfee or Kaspersky Labs or Symantec?

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  25. Yeah by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 1

    Closets will help pick out the right dress for a party. Countertops will be able to identify groceries set on them and make menu suggestions. I know when I wake up in the morning I think, "Gosh, I wish my house yammered at me more."

    I dunno... this all this sounds really annoying.
    1. Re:Yeah by sm62704 · · Score: 1

      this all this sounds really annoying.

      What do you expect from Microsoft?

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      mcgrew's razor: Never attribute to stupidity that which can be explained by greedy self-interest
  26. But by biased_estimator · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...does it run Linux?

  27. Trip to China? by bcattwoo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "Visitors will experience the look of tomorrow by watching Disney actors playing a family of four preparing for a trip to China."

    Probably just their normal daily commute to work.

  28. Tough House by Bob(TM) · · Score: 2, Interesting

    When it comes to aesthetics, designers decided to stray from the Jetsons-style House of the Future - an all-plastic cross design with four wing-shaped bays that appeared to float. The house was so tough that wrecking balls bounced off it when Disney ripped it down in 1967.

    The new home will be made of wood and steel and finished in muted browns and beiges, said Sheryl Palmer, president and chief executive of Taylor Morrison in North America.


    I dunno ... I kinda think a house tough enough to withstand a wrecking ball has a lot of forward thinking utility.

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    1. Re:Tough House by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I dunno ... I kinda think a house tough enough to withstand a wrecking ball has a lot of forward thinking utility.


      You foresee a lot of errant stray wrecking balls flailing through the air in the future?
    2. Re:Tough House by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      People in tornado-prone areas might like it.

    3. Re:Tough House by Abreu · · Score: 1

      The "muted browns and beiges" made me think of a Zune... I'd rather have a house designed by Apple, thank you...

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      No sig for the moment.
    4. Re:Tough House by Vegeta99 · · Score: 1

      Until it catches fire. A burning beam falling on you sucks ass, but a sticky, 200kg blob of thermoplastic is going to be much, much worse.

  29. Clippy, Home Edition by C10H14N2 · · Score: 3, Insightful


    Yes, an entire house programmed to second guess your every move...to "help" you. How could that not be terrific?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB03aRifPLU

  30. A countertop with an atitude by charlesj68 · · Score: 2, Funny

    countertops that can identify food placed on it and suggest recipes. Great, and probably insult me over my choice of vegetables. Or, chastise me over not buying enough "organic".
  31. They should have let Miramax do it for them . . . by The+Second+Horseman · · Score: 1

    And built it just off-site. That way, they could have included something like an Orgasmatron without actually making anyone angry at Disney.

  32. Misinterpretation by CSMatt · · Score: 1

    Did anyone else initially interpret the title as "Disney once again tries to lobby the candidates for the House of Representatives"?

    1. Re:Misinterpretation by rdebath · · Score: 1

      No need to misinterpret
      The headline I saw was "Disney Takes Another Stab at the House"

  33. But ... by shis-ka-bob · · Score: 4, Funny

    That may work in the House of the Future, but it will never be approved by the Senate of the Future.

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  34. The Original by Uncle+Dick · · Score: 1

    Nothing can beat the original, all plastic(!), Monsanto-sponsored House of the Future. Has Disney ever made anything as cool as that?

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    1. Re:The Original by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      Gotta love a house that's immune to wrecking balls.

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      A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
    2. Re:The Original by calidoscope · · Score: 1

      I thought it was pretty cool, remember going through it in 1965. What's kinds of freaky about it was that its design was a bit like the second story of the house in Heinlein's 'And he built a Crooked House' (an unfolded tesseract for those who haven't read the story.

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  35. Re:I would like to see...TWO BRICKS BEING SMASHED by sm62704 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Microsoft has a hand in it, so considering how they write their software I doubt you can remove or replace anything in thhe house without the walls turning blue, black, or crashing down.

    If you remove the laser razor is it "House Of The Future Lite"? I'll bet you can only use Microsoft Light Bulbs and Microsoft Lamps because the bulb screws, light sockets, and wall plugs are all nonstandard and proprietary.

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  36. Excellent... by Capt+James+McCarthy · · Score: 1

    I finally get to find out if that's real beef in those burritos!

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    There are no loopholes. It's either legal or it's not.
  37. More likely for menial work... by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 1

    Go to China to clean hotel rooms and hopefully get pregrant so that your kids are Chinese and have a Real Future and can live the Chinese Dream.

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    Engineering is the art of compromise.
  38. Fifteen Million Dollars? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So that puts it where? Low-average home price for Southern California?

  39. Re:I would like to see...TWO BRICKS BEING SMASHED by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Microsoft-Redmond already has a "House of the Future" thats been there for years. It pretty much has all the stuff listed already.

  40. Re:I would like to see...TWO BRICKS BEING SMASHED by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Microsoft has a hand in it..."

    Additionally, compatibility and adherence to exiting standards allowing interoperability with other products in this house of the future will be zero.

  41. I want a Roomba with a clue. by Animats · · Score: 1

    The little cleaning robots from iRobot are cute; but they're Rod Brooks dumb. They navigate by bumping into the walls, and have no idea where they are. They're round, so they can't clean in corners. They're really only slightly better than the one in the GE kitchen of the future from 1956.

    We need less home automation, and better building automation for meeting rooms of all sizes. Audio, video, lighting, and HVAC should be handled intelligently by the room control system, with next to no user input required.

    Optimal HVAC control is well understood but rarely seen. It requires room sensors for temperature, humidity, C02, CO, fire, smoke, and room occupancy, all of which you can now get in one little box. You also need controllable dampers on the ducts, outside air sensors, fan speed control, and something really reliable to run the system. Once you have that, HVAC works far better. When a room is empty, airflow is reduced but temperature is maintained reasonably close to normal. When someone enters the room, airflow is stepped up a bit. Heating and cooling are adjusted. As more people enter the room, the CO2 reading goes up and the fan speeds increase to bring it back down. If humidity goes up, the HVAC system pumps in more dry air. If CO goes up, but fire alarms haven't tripped, indicating smokers, fan speeds go way up. When outside conditions are suitable, more air is brought in from outside without running it through the A/C or heating system. When this is all working, you'll never notice it.

    1. Re:I want a Roomba with a clue. by TFer_Atvar · · Score: 1

      Where do you get such a device/computer to run this? Sounds fascinating.

  42. correction - should read by TRRosen · · Score: 1

    Visitors will experience the look of tomorrow by watching Disney actors playing a family of four preparing for a trip to China." To look for work.

  43. One question by smooth+wombat · · Score: 1

    How do I turn this crap off? If I put a piece of food on the counter I'm either:

    a) putting it there temporarily because I just bought it for future use in a recipe and haven't put it away or
    b) putting it there to be used in a recipe I am currently making

    I don't need something to tell me what I can make with whatever food is sitting on the counter. What if I leave my bananas sitting on the counter (which I do)? Will I be bombarded with a non-stop barrage of recipes or ideas on how to use those bananas until I eat them? What about that bottle of olive oil that sits there?

    I realize there are those who will find this kind of stuff neat and are probably the same people who think having GPS systems permanently installed in ones new car is a good thing, but I don't. The more complicated you make something, the more chances there are for something to fail. Apparently the KISS principle has been abandoned by designers.

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  44. I can't wait to see how it all works together by stormguard2099 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Father: Come on medicine cabinet! I need my insulin!
    Automated medicine cabinet: The serial number on your refrigerator seems to be invalid. Please call 1-800-chinasoft for assistence.
    Father: Alright but hurry up I have to get to work.
    Phone: It appears your telephone service provider is not supported. Can I interest you in signing up for MSNfone?
    Father: I knew I should have installed linux but I just couldn't find those drivers for my countertop and showercurtain .

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  45. They can do better than this... by neostorm · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm surprised that's all they could come up with... It sounds like it was designed by whimsy than practicality. Nothing they mention sounds like an ideal house to me. Maybe thermostat, but I live in Southern California, so it's not like that fluctuates a lot...

    In the "future", I'd really prefer a house that -
    1) helps me keep it clean. I've always envisioned a carpet that has a vacuum system beneath it, and will suck up all the dirt and grim and little bits from below.
    2) an in-sink dishwasher, where I can simply pile my dirty dishes into the sink, slide the top closed, and let it do it's thing without me having to clean by hand or pre-scrub and load them into a separate unit.
    3) has an embedded software system that will help me track my chores and tasks for that day, wake me in the morning, remind me of events on certain dates... basically calendar software that can be accessed from any wall in the house. (probably the closest scenario to what they have in the article).
    4) runs energy efficient! uses energy recycling tech to generate as much of it's own power supply as possible - i.e. solar power, walking around generates kinetic energy picked up through the floor, running tap and shower catch access energy as they drain, etc.

    I don't know, I just made this up off the top of my head by looking around my apartment (you can guess what shape it's in), but I think Disney's little inventors are looking too much in the direction of luxury, and not enough in the direction of practicality and things that people would really want to help them live their lives more comfortably.

    1. Re:They can do better than this... by smooth+wombat · · Score: 1
      1) . . . will suck up all the dirt and grim and little bits from below.


      That would be one mighty vaccum considering it would have to pull all the dirt, skin flecks, dead organisms, etc through the bottom of the carpet.

      2) an in-sink dishwasher

      Unless you're a bachelor, it would take forever to wash a load of dishes for a standard-size family (two adults, two kids)

      3) that will help me track my chores and tasks for that day, wake me in the morning, remind me of events on certain dates...

      It's called a wife. You should look into it.

      4) runs energy efficient!

      Turn off lights in rooms you're not in, open the curtains on your windows to let in natural light, open windows during warmer months instead of using a/c

      See, no need for the house of tomorrow. It's already here!

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      We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security. -- Dwight D. Eisenhower
    2. Re:They can do better than this... by SeaFox · · Score: 1

      I don't know, I just made this up off the top of my head by looking around my apartment (you can guess what shape it's in), but I think Disney's little inventors are looking too much in the direction of luxury, and not enough in the direction of practicality and things that people would really want to help them live their lives more comfortably.


      Because practical technology isn't sexy. Entertaining technology is. Speakerphones have been practical for only the last ten years or so, before they were an annoyance for the party not using them (poor audio pickup, half-duplex functionality, no noise cancellation). Yeah, they might have worked back in the 50's house, as long it was in an empty room. But today there's always a stereo or TV or computer making noise in the background (or kids, inside playing XBox rather than going outside). The point is they were luxury technology back then, too.

      About the dish washer: Why don't you just do a rinse off of your dishes right after you eat and stick it right into the dishwasher instead of leaving it in the sink. The form factor of standard dishwasher (large box on the floor) is the problem. There are dishwashers that are fit into a drawer-like form, so you don't have to bend down to load them.

      I don't understand the point of the automatic thermostat. We already have thermostats that can do heat or A/C without us flipping a switch between the two. Only running when people are in the room? Bringing a room up to temperature all at once is less energy efficient than maintaining a temperature, unless the room is hardly ever used. If we're going to start heating/cooling rooms individually, what was the point of converting to central heating/air to begin with?
    3. Re:They can do better than this... by erice · · Score: 1

      2) an in-sink dishwasher, where I can simply pile my dirty dishes into the sink, slide the top closed, and let it do it's thing without me having to clean by hand or pre-scrub and load them into a separate unit.

      Sounds like user error to me. If you have a dishwasher, there is no need to push dishes in the sink. Take them directly from the table on wherever they were into the dishwasher. If you have to pre-scrub them, that's a call for a better dishwasher, not an in-sink dishwasher. (Why would it be any easier, just because it happens in the sink?)

      I am constantly irritated at my housemate for this. We have a dishwasher and when I need to use the sink, I always have to move his dishes from the sink to the dishwasher. It makes no sense. He saves almost no effort and, between the two of us, the work load is nearly doubled.

      Now what would be useful is a self-emptying dishwasher. Some sort of robot to move all the dishes into the cabinets once the dishes are clean. Inevitably, the one time when you are really in a hurry, the dishwasher is full of clean dishes. My housemate puts his dishes in the sink even the dishwasher is empty.

  46. The House Of The Future by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    in Gulag America will also have a direct feed to The Minister of Propaganda.

    Defend America: Make An Overseas Phone Call Now To Jam the Pipeline.

    DemoRATically Forever,
    Kilgore Trout, A-C-T-I-V-I-S-T

  47. Laundry idea by CopaceticOpus · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Most of their ideas are cute but not especially helpful to anyone. I'd throw all those ideas out for a real laundry machine. I want to toss my dirty clothes in at night, and the next morning have them waiting for me, cleaned, dried, ironed, sorted, and folded.

    1. Re:Laundry idea by russotto · · Score: 1

      Most of their ideas are cute but not especially helpful to anyone. I'd throw all those ideas out for a real laundry machine. I want to toss my dirty clothes in at night, and the next morning have them waiting for me, cleaned, dried, ironed, sorted, and folded.
      You can get something similar. It's called a "servant". Unfortunately thanks to that darn Abe Lincoln, they're only available on a subscription basis nowadays.
    2. Re:Laundry idea by CYDVicious · · Score: 1

      That my friend is called a new wife. Not to be confused with a veteran wife...that's a different algorithm altogether. Granted in terms of "new", your mileage may vary. So far mine has been running strong 4 years. The ironing function was never implemented, but the rest of the duties work like as good as day one. One downside to this laundry machine is for the first time in my life that my clothes are fading faster than I can wear them out. Also since I use a drawer storage method, I rarely get to the clothing elements below the first two layers...I am considering a different storage method to get past that issue.

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  48. *big sigh* by jrothwell97 · · Score: 1

    They'll be making films next...

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  49. Re:They should have let Miramax do it for them . . by CreatureComfort · · Score: 1


    I read that as they should have let MirrorMask design it for them. Now that would be freaky!

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  50. Are we all rich in the future too? by dtolman · · Score: 2, Interesting

    5000 square feet? Thats not a house - thats a mansion! Are they going to China to find a full time cleaning crew to chase after the dust bunnies in their 8 bedrooms and 6 1/2 bathrooms?

    Just the same - I'm a sucker for Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous, and look forward to visiting the protype house of the Corporate Liege Lord in the future.

    1. Re:Are we all rich in the future too? by demaria · · Score: 1

      It's also a working Disney attraction. It needs to be large enough to handle the tens of thousands of people walking through it every day.

    2. Re:Are we all rich in the future too? by Charcharodon · · Score: 1
      5000 square feet? Thats not a house - thats a mansion! Are they going to China to find a full time cleaning crew to chase after the dust bunnies in their 8 bedrooms and 6 1/2 bathrooms?

      My sister lives in a 5400sqf McMansion in Houston. When I went to visit over the holidays I had the same thought in mind. The funny thing it had pretty much the same number of rooms as the 2400sf house they used to live in, just each room was alot bigger.

      4 bedrooms, 3 1/2 bath, 2 living rooms one upstairs one down, theater room, office cubby upstairs, giant kitchen with walk in pantry, laundry room, entry room with two identical rooms one on each side, one being used as a dining room the other a den.

      The only difference from their old house was the den, the theater room, and the walk in pantry which were not all that big in the grand scheme of things. All the other rooms just seemed 5' longer and wider or so.

      It's just a longer walk to get around the house. Personally I find it annoying, especially with how big it is and there are no secret passage ways or hidden shortcuts. I mean WTF, if you are going to go all out and have that big of a house it better have a secret lair, a panic room, or a walk in florecent lit armory or something?! Nada one to be found, color me unimpressed.

    3. Re:Are we all rich in the future too? by dtolman · · Score: 1

      Just take all the fun out of my comment by injecting some reality into it :)

      'Course I'm guessing half the square feet will be standing room for the guests, and the other half will be the actual display. Plus room for guest bathrooms, emergency exit pathways, service corridors, control rooms, etc.

    4. Re:Are we all rich in the future too? by Vegeta99 · · Score: 1

      5000 sqft is a lot? My apartment is 1200, and it's a /student/ apartment (albiet, 4BR/2BA)

  51. You are being stu^H^H^H Short sighted. by geekoid · · Score: 1

    Look at the original Disney home of the future. would have cost you 50K+ to do it at the time. Now almost everything that was there is common place. It's a view of what might be. I am old enough to remember what a HUGE deal cordless phones where. Literally change things in the house. The were the gadget to have. Now there are common and not thought about, but the Disney home had them years earlier.

    The advantage to the Ma Bell Monopoly was that it had an entrenched process and they considered RnD a good thing and went on to develop large amount of technology that is common place today.

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  52. Cool! by GungaDan · · Score: 1

    Imagine a beowulf subdivision of these...

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  53. future? by asilentthing · · Score: 1

    Similar programs could turn a desktop into a computer screen, allowing residents to load photos, music or e-mail onto a cell phone by placing it on the desk.

    So... Microsoft Surface then. Haven't we seen this already? Aren't there hotels about to put these in their lobbies?

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  54. normal by jemminger · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "The 5000-square-foot house will appear normal from the outside".... just like everyone else's 5000 square foot homes ;-p

  55. Countertops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    "countertops that can identify food placed on it and suggest recipes"

    how stupid is that... when my food gets on the countertop, it's because I already know what I am going to do with it...

    Will I need to empy my fridge on my countertop to know what to cook every day?

    Anyway, it's been tried before and it's totally useless.... instead it should track what you have in the fridge and suggest what you can cook with what you have... or tell you what to buy to make a specific recipe...

    Me: What can I cook ?
    Fridge: Beer... beer chicken... beer hotdogs... beer cheese... beer...

  56. Re:Shouldn't it be in Epcot? by dtolman · · Score: 1

    Yeah - but the original House of the Future was in Disneyland/Magic Kingdom - so it makes sense just to update the ones that are already there.

    I'll miss the old one - I think seeing the "future" through the eyes of someone 50, 30, 10 years ago was much more amusing than our current view of the "future".

  57. Let's all destroy the planet! by sunderland56 · · Score: 1

    A 5,000 square foot house that costs $15 million? And has a carbon footprint larger than some third-world cities?

    The real house of the future will be small, will be built from recycled/recyclable materials, and will be energy efficient. And, will be affordable by someone who is not a CEO.

    1. Re:Let's all destroy the planet! by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      Small? No thanks. I like to have enough room to walk around in, and a 500 square foot house like you dream of is simply not enough.

      There's no reason a large house has to have a large carbon footprint, just because that's the way things are now.

      I really don't care if it is more efficient for everyone to live in a telephone booth sized house; I'm not going to work hard for a life like that. If that's all we were allowed to have, then why bother working at all?

    2. Re:Let's all destroy the planet! by mikiN · · Score: 1

      I really don't care if it is more efficient for everyone to live in a telephone booth sized house I would literally give up everything I own to live in a phone booth--as long as it's a Tardis!
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  58. My House of the Future by Dr.+Eggman · · Score: 2, Informative

    Popsci has another take on the Home of the the Future.

    My house wouldn't be built around gimmicky crap like auto moodlighting or suggesting recipies. Mine would be more practical innovation. Bathrooms and kitchens coated in titanium dioxide treated to dissapate dirt and mildew. It'll have a 3D fabrication Printer to print out dishes or maybe even chair parts when we have extra company. Automated machines to cut the grass (if I don't go with bio-engineered no-mow grass.) The construction itself will be steel framed and built using modular panels but build to be reconfigurable (relativly.) Replacing drywall with bolted or snap-in-place steel-backed panels (the exposed surface side could be bare steel, have wood glued on, wallpapered, etc.) allowing for me to access the interior portions of the wall with ease. My particular aesthetic would be bare steel panels, with cables run along the outside in bundles, but it would be easy to reconfigure it to appear 'classical' with the wires hidden behind the now covered panels. I want my home of the future to be flexable, low(er) maintenance, and something that will last.

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    1. Re:My House of the Future by theguru · · Score: 1

      With all those steel panels, you'll get GREATE wireless reception. :) Make sure it's well grounded in the next lighting storm too.

  59. What if the bad guys win? by jagdish · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I got this from somewhere. p2pnet I think. What if the bad guys win? Going to the movies is not what it used to be. Security at the studio-owned theatres is heavy, it's not a trip to be taken lightly. But if you want to see the film everyone is talking about without waiting a year for the home release, you have little choice. When you enter the lobby the first thing you see are long ranks of tiny, thumbprint activated lockers. This is where you must leave all of your electronics, your personal server and peripherals, even your watch, and you had better not be wearing smart spectacles or contacts. As you enter the security zone you're scanned for anything you may have forgotten. Cochlea and optical implants must be capable of responding with a coded RF identification signal to indicate their systems are secure and cannot record. People with older models, or models implanted abroad where such interrogation is illegal, are turned away. Perhaps they would like to see one of the older releases? Once through the scanner you must submit to a biometric ID test - this is where the known bloggers, hackers and spoilers are ejected. Finally there is the non-disclosure agreement to be signed - these days most moviegoers choose to sign via the MPAAs annual subscription, just trying to take some of the hassle out of visiting the cinema. Finally you get to see the film. In the auditorium the audience is constantly scanned by an AI looking for suspicious activity, so don't rummage in your pockets for too long. It's strange that all this effort to protect the movie industry has done so little to improve the movies. You don't really own your home computer, or even the data you keep on it. Oh, you paid for it, just like you paid for the fibre-optic Internet connection that it can't function without, but now it squats under your TV using your electricity and does more work for the content industry than for you. The nightly security patches it downloads for itself don't secure your computer against attackers, they secure the system and software against you. TV-on-demand seemed like a dream come true when you first opted in and upgraded all your hardware, but the slowly encroaching charges are becoming a disincentive to turn on at all. Sometimes the last episode of a series makes up 50% of the cost of the whole season. The Internet is not what it used to be. It's expanded, naturally, the technology giving everyone mobile PCs with vast ad-hoc networking capabilities, it's faster, more efficient, and more available, but it's also more restrictive. Since the ISPs were made responsible for the content they deliver their filtering has become neurotic. Anti-terror, piracy, plagiarism and libel filters search every request and response for signs of illegal activity, always erring on the side of caution. Wikipedia's index has been decimated. Popular blogs like Boing Boing now have more lawyers involved than contributors (the one's that have survived that is). Even if you managed to get something illegal through the filters your operating system's regularly updated self-check mechanisms would eventually root it out, or report you to the authorities, usually both. These days it seems like every time you turn on one of your gadgets you have to fight with its DRM to get it to do what you want. The home movie of your daughter opening her birthday presents is ruined by a patch of grey fog that shifts with every movement of the camera, tracking sluggishly to keep the TV screen in the background obscured. From the codes embedded in TV's update pattern your camera had decided the show was not licensed for this form of reproduction and blocked it. You wish you had thought to turn it off at the time, but squinting into the camera's tiny screen it hadn't looked so bad. Even once recorded, your own media is not safe. Everything is stored on your home PC, trapped in the solid-state drive's proprietary filing system. Once there, the only reasonable way to transfer it is to another trusted drive from the same vendor - the DRM won't recognise any other brand of

    1. Re:What if the bad guys win? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have a hard time believing this is something you just came up with now...

    2. Re:What if the bad guys win? by acebaron · · Score: 1

      Wow, I feel like throwing a hammer through my monitor now...

    3. Re:What if the bad guys win? by jagdish · · Score: 1

      Read the first line

      I got this from somewhere. p2pnet I think.

  60. Just dont request extra dining room chairs! by CrackerJackz · · Score: 1

    The last think we need is a house that can thow chairs from one room to another. :)

  61. House of the future for whom? by Kefaa · · Score: 1

    It should be exciting to think about the vast majority of humans who need habitats. They will not have $15,000,000, as their average income rounds out around $60 per week. If you want to impress me with the home of the future, describe a place that can provide protection from the elements, including hurricanes, monsoons, etc. Provide warmth, cooling (for food), waste elimination and water filtration (see Dollar a day). All on an average yearly income of less than $3200 Per Capita Income

    We have a lot of intelligent people in the world looking to make good things great while the vast, vast, majority of people are just looking to make horrible, merely bad.

  62. After Hours... by Diginosis · · Score: 2, Funny

    Best janitor breakroom ever?

  63. Just pray... by HalfOfOne · · Score: 1

    Just pray that you don't have the same type of error messages. The last thing you want to see while on the throne is a "stack overflow". On the plus side, that might be the only scenario where I would be tempted to click "Yes, I would like to send the contents of the error to Microsoft"

    Just pray that the Clippy mentality hasn't been added as a feature. "We've noticed you haven't been eating enough fiber. Would you like assistance with this feature?" Queue the hypersonic bran muffin canon.

    Cliche, but I have to say it...

    Do the chairs throw themselves?

  64. Gift Shop? by Evil+Closet+Monkey · · Score: 1

    On the way out, visitors will have to opportunity to pick up an HP DeskJet or laptop preloaded with Windows Vista. Visitors will need to pay extra to have Windows XP installed, but can have the laptop delivered to their Disney hotel room (once finished) at no extra cost.

  65. This sounds familiar... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In otherwords they're taking us to Bill Gates' house?

  66. Whose future? by Tabernaque86 · · Score: 1

    Sure, this sounds like the future to someone who's easily impressed by gimmickry. Like someone else previously said, "Look at what we can do with unlimited resources that we don't have to pay for!". But given current trends such as *decreasing* resources, wouldn't the house of the future be starting more around what the average house can do, but requiring significantly less resources. In other words, having an incredibly small carbon footprint by using "futuristic" technologies, and then expand from there on all sorts of "practical" gimmickry.

    1. Re:Whose future? by cdrguru · · Score: 1

      This is probably more like what the house of the future looks like. Say all you want about resource utilization and carbon footprints - the eco folk aren't going to be happy until there are 200 million people living like this.

  67. snarky by SeaFox · · Score: 1

    Visitors will experience the look of tomorrow by watching Disney actors playing a family of four preparing for a trip to China.

    Sure sounds realistic. In the future, a trip to a country with an oppressive government like China will look like a vacation compared to the U.S. of that time period.
  68. Chinese houses of the Future by Vinegar+Joe · · Score: 1
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  69. An allusion.. by Driador · · Score: 1

    It's kind of funny, and somewhat scary, but does anyone else think of Bradbury's There Will Come Soft Rains ? Hmm... smart homes and the as-of-yet unfolding neo arms race between the west and the east.

  70. Um... by kabocox · · Score: 1

    The home of the future... 1,200-1,500 sq ft for $60-80K that uses 1/4-1/3 of the power current homes need to heat/cool the house, laundry/kitchen appliances, and TV/computer stuff.

    The home of the future isn't a nagging bitch telling me that I need to move all my RFIDed stuff where it recommends or that I need to cook such and such recipes or and that I need to use exactly this type of soap in their app.

    The ultimate app of the future would be a robot maid that does cooking, yard work, house hold cleaning, and running to the store to buy the recipes that you want even in home as old as one built in the 1950s.

    1. Re:Um... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where the hell do you live where the house of the future is a massive 1,500 square feet for only $80k? Kansas?

      The house of today is 800 square feet for $500,000 in many countries or states. That's what I'm looking at for my next house in London, and I'm worried about how many drug dealers will be in the area.

  71. The way things are going... by mr_resident · · Score: 1

    I see the house of the future as an animal skin covered tent in a vast field of ice and radioactive waste.

    1. Re:The way things are going... by Vinegar+Joe · · Score: 1

      So you doubt global warming, eh?

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    2. Re:The way things are going... by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      Don't be so pessimistic.

      This house will probably resemble the houses of the future for people in China. However, here in the USA, we can probably expect to be living in burnt-out or dilapidated old buildings, since with the coming economic collapse we won't be able to afford anything better. We'll all be living in shantytowns next to Chinese-owned factories, making cheap crap for the hundreds of millions of middle-class Chinese citizens while living in wretched poverty and being slowly poisoned by environmental pollution.

  72. Disney's three views of the "future" by peter303 · · Score: 1

    The "future" has always been a significant component of their them parks and TV shows. I notice they changed their view of three times. (1) First, it was a machine future: better appliances, cars, space-ships, etc. This was the original tomorrow-land and the Pavilion of Innovation ride. (2) Second, was when epcot was built in the 1970s. The main Epcot(*) Dome ride strees ecology and psychology and was kind of new-agey. (3) Third, is the information age future. A lot of the refurbish tomorrowland exhibits are computers and multimedia. (4) A fourth candidate is "nostoglia" future. Some of the new rides in tomorrowland invoke 1930s art-deco (e.g.Brazil movie) or 1950s modernism. Movie directors often trnaslate past styles into the future.

    (*) EPCOT means Experimental Prototype Community of Tomorrow. Walt envisoned a World's Fair expositon combined with a lving-breathing 21st century community (with 19th century social values). A little bit of this made it into the Epcot park and additional components in the perverse Disney housing development called Celebration. The irony of Celebration is its residents sued Disney to prevent innovations that would hurt property values or their kids chances of get into ivy league colleges, so it became a rather conservative place.

  73. But will they learn from past mistakes ? by ygor · · Score: 1

    "Microsoft's Home Of Tomorrow Has No Bathroom " http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?no_d2=1&sid=03/02/04/0033239

    1. Re:But will they learn from past mistakes ? by mikiN · · Score: 1

      That will be fixed in Home Of Tomorrow SP1, as soon as they figure out how to prevent sewer overload from processing all those minidumps.

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  74. Mmmmm, pork roast... by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 2, Funny
    I often sit on my kitchen counters.

    [+HAL9000 voice] Excuse me, Dave. It seems you have a large quantity of SPAM there, may I suggest a recipe? [-HAL9000 voice]

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  75. Not exactly "Tomorrowland" by Frangible · · Score: 1

    The point of Tomorrowland was the use of the imagination to conceptualize something far more than a modern house with a few extra computers. It was an entire arrangement of a community, a radical departure from anything at the time. Remember the hatch from Season 2 of "Lost"? That was based off of Tomorrowland. And it was still cool.

    This new "House of the Future" is more about advertising for corporate sponsors, and less about actually showing anything interesting or imaginative. Kind of ironic the set designers for "Lost" did more for the concept than Disney did in recent years.

    I think it also says a lot about our failure of imagination if our vision of the future is "a kitchen with a dishwasher... but the dishwasher has a *web browser*!" Even though most of the speculations back in the 1950s-70s were wrong they still were pretty great artistically and spurred development of a lot of technology.

    Disney was supposed to be about the imagination and dreaming, not about incremental upgrades. This house is about as exciting as Windows security update, and just as Microsoft-centric.

  76. Get real by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The 5000-square-foot house

    Houses of the future will be closer to 500 square-feet than 5,000.

  77. Unfrickingbelievable by hacksoncode · · Score: 1

    Just when I thought it wasn't possible for Disney to get any more corporate, this happens.

  78. How about a normal size house of the future? by MSTCrow5429 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In 2007, the average US single family home was 2,330 square feet. It would be nice to see a home of the future that isn't of a size current day mansion. I'd love a huge house, but realistically, very few of us can truly afford one.

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    1. Re:How about a normal size house of the future? by mdenham · · Score: 1

      Out of curiosity, how long ago was the average single-family home 1,085 sq. ft.? That'd give us a reasonable guess for how far into the future this would have to be, assuming they're just going off of the same growth rate (which is stupid).

    2. Re:How about a normal size house of the future? by MSTCrow5429 · · Score: 1

      http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5525283 is the closest I can find offhand. New single family homes in 1950 were an average of 983 square feet, while in 1970 they were an average of 1,500 square feet.

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    3. Re:How about a normal size house of the future? by mdenham · · Score: 1
      Okay, then. Assuming a relatively straight-line decrease in the rate of increase of house size (gah, what an ugly wording) that puts this kind of average house size about 280 years in the future.

      Somehow I doubt the housing situation of 2290 will support single families having a 5000 sq. ft. house, so I recommend that Disney portray the HOTF as having extended families in it.


      In other words, re-bill Cinderella's Castle as the House of the Future.

    4. Re:How about a normal size house of the future? by mikiN · · Score: 1

      Ah, I believe you're thinking of Mason's Law, which says that average US house size doubles every 10 years.

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  79. Dude by geekoid · · Score: 1

    You can stand every human ni the world in Texas, and they still wouldn'e be able to touch each other without moving.

    Room isn't a problem. Putting people in the optimal place has some social issues.

    In fact, we could convert all usable land to farming, and still put every PERSON in their own 5000 Sq.Ft single floor house and your neighbors wouldn't be able top here you play loud music. With an intelligent management system, we could deliver food to all those people and still have mountains of food not used.

    Technially, this can all be done. socially and politically is where the problems lie. By that I mean it's difficult to accomidate everyone not, kill all the problems...skynet I'm looking at you...

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  80. 5000 square feet?!!! by hattig · · Score: 1

    One thing I think is certain - the house of the future won't be 5000 square feet. I imagine that single people will be happy to live in 500 square feet, more likely couples will be living in this area. Families will survive within 1000 square feet.

    Or maybe we will all move to the countryside.

  81. obligatory by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 1

    Wake me when the house decides to start terrorizing Julie Christie.

  82. Re:I would like to see...TWO BRICKS BEING SMASHED by JediN8 · · Score: 1

    "If you remove the laser razor is it "House Of The Future Lite"? I'll bet you can only use Microsoft Light Bulbs and Microsoft Lamps because the bulb screws, light sockets, and wall plugs are all nonstandard and proprietary." That would be Apple...

  83. Re:I would like to see...TWO BRICKS BEING SMASHED by xENoLocO · · Score: 0, Troll

    Aren't you guys tired of crying, whining, and bitching about open source yet? For fuck sakes, give it a rest. Everytime MS is mentioned you people try to make some joke about crashing, blue screens, etc. You completely overlook the context of the article and go straight into a tirade about proprietary technology. You're surrounded by people who support your view, so what's the point?

    Jesus... jsut get on with your day already.

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  84. Re:I would like to see...TWO BRICKS BEING SMASHED by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    See, if you were running an operating system that didn't crash all the time, you wouldn't be so grumpy. :)

  85. Bah. I want less in my house, not more. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I want passive heating and cooling, tons of sound and thermal insulation, a radiant floor heating system for those days when the passive system can't handle it, water recycling, rainwater capture, and indoor plants. Oh, and I want it to be basically indestructible from, say, hurricanes and earthquakes.

    Fortunately for me, it already exists.... www.earthship.org

  86. The future house...today by RealGrouchy · · Score: 1

    The ... house will appear normal from the outside... Ooh! Ooh! I've got one of those!

    In fact, my house is so futuristic, it looks normal on the inside too!

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  87. Re:I would like to see...TWO BRICKS BEING SMASHED by Neanderthal+Ninny · · Score: 0

    Microsoft house.
    A house that doesn't let's it owner in but lets other people (read hackers) in. Al house that periodically (more often than not) crashes and goes to blue screen.

  88. Subscription City by PurpleButter · · Score: 1
    Before you know it, we'll be paying tons of money on subscription fees for our home of the future.

    I like, embrace and use latest-greatest technology. But the subscription model kills me. Want a Tivo? Don't just buy it, pay them $$ every single month for the entire time you use it! Want OnStar? Same thing. This is a new trend that won't stop any time soon. Before you know it, you'll have monthly subscription fees for your refrigerator, washer, toaster oven, etc. And to top it all off, none of them will be integrated. ie. 20 monthly subscriptions with 20 companies translates to 20 different bills to pay and keep track of.

    Geeesh.

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  89. BEHOLD! by mr_josh · · Score: 1

    The expensive, feasible house of the present!

  90. For the busy engineer. by DeadDecoy · · Score: 1

    Or even better yet, it checks the house for chemical signs of spoilage. From this it can tell that you smell like "leftover casserole" and that it's time to clean yourself.

  91. Re:I would like to see...TWO BRICKS BEING SMASHED by Skynyrd · · Score: 1

    I'll bet you can only use Microsoft Light Bulbs and Microsoft Lamps because the bulb screws, light sockets, and wall plugs are all nonstandard and proprietary.

    I think you misspelled Sony.

  92. TARDIS technology by cyberfunkr · · Score: 1

    It seems that in the future we'll have mastered some TARDIS technology. It will look like a normal 2,300 square-foot suburban house from the outside but will allow for 5,000 of living space on the inside.

  93. I think I've seen this before... by HiggsBison · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... and Yul Brynner goes nuts and kills everybody.

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  94. Re:I would like to see...TWO BRICKS BEING SMASHED by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Part of you just died for your lack of humor.

  95. what IS it, man?! by PMuse · · Score: 1

    countertops that can identify food placed on it Wow, that is advanced.

    Half the time when I take food out of the refrigerator and put it on the counter, I can't identify it.
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  96. ah by jvkjvk · · Score: 1

    Disney Takes Another Stab at the House of the Future

    I hope they killed it this time. You ever notice how those houses are really hard to stop when they're after you?

  97. missed opportunity by NotZed · · Score: 1

    Even this is a (much) better effort: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dymaxion_house (e.g. compare the practicality of that with the pointless previous disney 'house of the future', given they have a similar vintage).

    Yes it is utterly absurd that they're focusing on technology over-load. They should be focusing on improved construction techniques, heating and cooling design, water and waste collection and recycling (rainwater tanks, composting toilet), improved lighting (daylight from sun, night from low-energy), it goes on and on ...

    There is a world of interesting and exciting things that could make a real difference out there. Instead it's full of computers which probably wont work properly and big screen tv's. Big bloody deal - there's nothing great or earth changing about that, and with technology moving so fast it will rapidly become so dated it will just become a quaint joke like their last effort.

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  98. Re:Counter tops of the future by mazanoid · · Score: 1

    Wow, I've always wanted a countertop that can suggest creative deviations for Ramen Noodles and Beer.

    Hrmm, "Might I suggest Microwaved Ramen?"
        "With the full packet?"
        "Without the packet?"
        "How about you boil off all the alcohol from your beer, and drink the flavoring packet?"

  99. Sponsored by ... by PPH · · Score: 1

    Disney: Goofey hardware.
    Microsoft: Mickey Mouse software.

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  100. Re:I would like to see...TWO BRICKS BEING SMASHED by Basehart · · Score: 1

    Don't forget the "Social" room where you and your friends can squirt tunez at each other. Wow, groovy daddyo. The future is ZUNE!!!!!

  101. I do want lights... by Elbowgeek · · Score: 1

    But on the tube amplifier which runs the audio system, which consists of two seven-watt SET power amps driven by a pair of Bottlehead preamps. With the lights out it creates an atmosphere similar to candle lighting. Oh, and those seven-watt amps coupled with high-efficiency speakers will be more than enough sound to fill the A/V space.

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  102. Wiring behind pop-out chair rails by evought · · Score: 1

    Wouldn't the house of the future be made up of easily interchangable parts that can be easily retrofitted to existing structures? It wouldn't be something designed from the ground up with today's bleeding-edge technologies. Part of the hassle of doing work in the houses of today are parts, fixtures, or even the location of holes, that are of a new standard and plain just don't work with anything else. For quite a while, I've wanted to redo a place with decorative chair rails that actually pop off to reveal a channel for all the wiring: electric, phone, network, whatever. You would put in standard modular outlet covers at various points and it would be a fairly quick and non-destructive job to, say, run speaker cable between two rooms and pop two-wire or RCA modules into the jack. You could also put a small hub or wireless access point in that space relatively easily and still get at it for maintenance. The chair rails themselves are practical in their own right.
    1. Re:Wiring behind pop-out chair rails by Uzuri · · Score: 1

      evought, I'm stealing your idea. I've been collecting smart stuff like this for when I build my (tiny, green) dream home. This is one of the more sensible ideas I've heard in a long while.

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    2. Re:Wiring behind pop-out chair rails by evought · · Score: 1

      Go ahead, I haven't had a chance to do it yet. Better that someone gets use out of it. Let me know how it works.

  103. Re-activation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "You have inserted bread into Microsoft Toaster 1.0. This is a significant hardware change. Please re-register Microsoft Toaster."

    The worst part is having to re-register again when it turns to toast...

  104. Re:I would like to see...TWO BRICKS BEING SMASHED by rtb61 · · Score: 1
    Hey if they really wanted to pick on M$, they would mention this http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/02/13/2320220 recent article. So lets see, Disney's and M$'s house of the future, it would continual monitor all DRM and if any member of the house infringes upon copyright, either by humming tune, writing a quote or if the number of householders making use of any content the exceeds the number of people licensed for that content, or if heaven forbid, they should actually dare to attempt to copy that content.

    Then under the new 21st century instant copyright conviction act, the house immediately goes into 'reduced functionality mode', the house doesn't allow anybody to enter or leave (except of course duly authorised harsh interrogation specialists, who will apply dully sanctioned, taser electro therapy and pepper spray chemo therapy), disables all content playback device, rations all services including lighting, heating, power and water. After all the instant prison, is not meant to be comfortable, and it is only fitting that the offender pays the full cost of their own incarceration.

    In a police state it is only appropriate that a modern home should also serve double duty as a prison cell ;).

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  105. Third World House of the Future by Ranger · · Score: 1

    Well for most people the house of the future will consist of corrugated sheet metal and cardboard. Running water will be from a nearby open sewage ditch when it rains.

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    "You'll get nothing, and you'll like it!"
  106. Re:I would like to see...TWO BRICKS BEING SMASHED by sm62704 · · Score: 1

    Aren't you Microsoft whiners tired of being laughed at? Did you see how the comment was modded? Did you see the Monty Pythoon reference in the subject line?

    That's ok, if I were a Microsoft programmer or held Microsoft stock I'd be a little touchy about the subject too.

    -mcgrew

    PS- "funny" adds no karma. I have plenty, have some of mine cryboy.

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  107. Re:I would like to see...TWO BRICKS BEING SMASHED by sm62704 · · Score: 1

    Dude, Sony is a sore spot with me. I'd give up pot and hookers if it would make Sony go away.

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    mcgrew's razor: Never attribute to stupidity that which can be explained by greedy self-interest
  108. Is this wht passes for vision? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does anyone know how it was that people like these managed to get into positions of power and influence?

  109. Re:I would like to see...TWO BRICKS BEING SMASHED by xENoLocO · · Score: 1

    I run OSX. I don't have an OS that crashes all the time... and it's not linux; I don't have to spend 95% of my day configuring my fucking OS.

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    "The need to build the internet comes from something inside us, something programmed... something we can't resist."