Slashdot Mirror
A Yottabyte of Storage Per Year by 2013
Lucas123 writes "David Roberson, general manager of Hewlett-Packard's StorageWorks division, predicts that by 2013 the storage industry will be shipping a yottabyte (a billion gigabytes) of storage capacity annually. Roberson made the comment in conjunction with HP introducing a new rack system that clusters together four blade servers and three storage arrays with 820TB of capacity. Many vendors are moving toward this kind of platform, including IBM, with its recent acquisition of Israeli startup XIV, according to Enterprise Strategy Group analyst Mark Peters."
Impressed, you will be.
Faster! Faster! Faster would be better!
When I can say "I have a lotta yottabytes"
May the force be with you. More amusing is the fact this story was submitted by Lucas123.
Under the new regime, wouldn't that be a "Yobibyte" or something similarly idiotic?
Done with slashdot, done with nerds, getting a life.
A yotta byte is 10^24 which is a trillion terra bytes
or 10^12 * 10^12
I thought geeks hung out here......
So will integers be little endian or big endian in YoddaByte drives?
alias possession='chmod 666 satan && ls
umm.. wouldn't that be one zettabyte? If I am not off then one yottabyte would be a billion terabyte
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yotta
Yow! That's a lotta bytes!!!!
mcgrew's razor: Never attribute to stupidity that which can be explained by greedy self-interest
I believe a "yottabyte" is 1 billion petabytes, not gigabytes.
I read Usenet for the articles.
Well, here is one compelling reason to stop developing ever larger and larger storage - silly names.
And at the other end of the spectrum you have the nybble.
How much exactly does that mean?
...
- 10^9 * 10^9 bytes
- 2^30 * 2^30 bytes
- 10^9 * 2^30 bytes
- 10^12 * 2^30 bytes (non-american billions)
-
You never know, these days
my conversions are long scale (followed in Germany among other countries). Check the table for short scale conversions that is followed in the US. Either way the summary is wrong.
I wouldn't be too surprised if we hit 10TB arrays next year, so this kind of progression seems like it's possible. Data's cheap nowadays!
Let me know when i can get a yottabyte of storage into my server. I have alot of porn I need to store.
I can have enough room for my porn collection....
How long before I can get one of those on a pen-drive?
I refuse to dump floppies until then.
Seven Days with Ubuntu Unity
This new unit of data confuses me. I only think of data sizes in terms of Library of Congresses (LOCs), mass in terms of stones, and lengths in terms of horse hands. Now get off my lawn!
Well, there's spam egg sausage and spam, that's not got much spam in it.
I prefer the nebulous term "lottabyte."
Lottabyte: An unspecific term meaning the amount of storage you think you need but know you can't afford.
Knowledge is how to play a game, intelligence is how to win, wisdom is knowing what game to play.
This means I have to find a whole lot more porn if I want to keep up...
But it's pronounced 'Throat-Warbler Mangrove.'
Considering that I a few thousand GB right here on my desk, I'm guessing that they already ship way way more than a billion.
What, didn't you know Yottabyte was a Great Old One? First cousin of Nyarlothep, half brother of Shub Niggurath. Described as a multidimensional vortex of spinning disks emitting a terrible screeching, Yottabyte records the souls of the damned.
- None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license. -- John Milton
At this rate, we'll need to start defining new prefixes before 2020.
That's a LOT of Bill Clinton excuses!
``Tension, apprehension & dissension have begun!'' - Duffy Wyg&, in Alfred Bester's _The Demolished Man_
O.k. I've gotten one thing by glancing at the slashdot comments. No one really knows how much a yottabyte of storage will be!
Can some one show me how many kilobytes are in yottabyte?
Will this be unit of measure just for companies like Google or MS only or are we talking about yottabyte flash drives?
They better start rolling out porn in 1080p format or the only thing that sized drive will be viable for is storing the "citizen surveillance" data at the Department of Homeland Security.
"The irony when tending a flock of sheep is the dogs you put in place to protect them are genetically mutated wolves"
More importantly, how many MP3s can I store?!
Anyway, I emailed them this link to the terms in question, and post it here, for your edification. I have a post-it note on my bookcase with these terms - I think that as time goes on, knowing EXACTLY what each one is will be of some use. Until the oil runs out and we are shivering in the cold, anyway...
Here's their names, abreviations and their power of ten, so you know how big/small it is.
yocto- y 10^-24
zepto- z 10^-21
atto- a 10^-18
femto- f 10^-15
pico- p 10^-12
nano- n 10^-9
micro- m 10^-6
milli- m 10^-3
centi- c 10^-2
deci- d 10^-1
(none) -- --
deka- D 10^1
hecto- H 10^2
kilo- K 10^3
mega- M 10^6
giga- G 10^9
tera- T 10^12
peta- P 10^15
exa- E 10^18
zetta- Z 10^21
yotta- Y 10^24
RS
Shoes for Industry. Shoes for the Dead.
Considering the fact that I'm just a regular user who doesn't run a server or data centre or anything particular storage intensive (relatively speaking) and I bought a 1TB (1000GB) last year, I'm wondering whether this claim is as "WOW!" as it appears to be on the surface. Surely there's at least 1 million users (1 million x 1 thousand = 1 billion GB, or 1 yottabyte) who've bought a 1TB hard drive? Or even 10 million who've bought 100GB hard drives. And this is just home users mind you. There must be thousands, if not millions, of companies around the world with servers and data centres with plenty of gigabytes of storage being purchased every year.
Do the math.
A "Yottabyte" exceeds the information stored on all computers today *COMBINED*.
It's marketing hype and nonsense. Read the fine print.
If it isn't sinking in, try to divide a yottabyte by the transfer rate of a single SATA drive. Figure out how long you'll be dead once the formatting finishes.
That's a yottabytes!
If I recall: byte, kilobyte, megabyte, gigabyte, terabyte, petabyte, exabyte.
Unless we're talking about the British "billion"?
404555974007725459910684486621289147856453481154 in hex is "You sank my Battleship?"
[GPG key in journal]
n/t
What, me worry?
I would like to go on the record as saying that we will need more space than this...
iOughttaByte? WhyNottaYouByte?
--Coming up with something clever... please wait...
Oh, sorry!!! I thought you said Yadabytes!!!!
Yada, Yada, Yada!!!!
Yatta!
Knowledge is how to play a game, intelligence is how to win, wisdom is knowing what game to play.
Server drives with high density need to be faster (seek and transfer times) to support more multiple users accessing different sequences of the disk's storage addresses in rapid interleaved succession.
But personal drives don't need as high speeds for one person's use, especially when the high capacity is for large media content objects that are stored unfragmented. We don't need to spend the money on transfer speeds so much faster than our playback speeds that it's never used. Large builtin caches are useful for real random-access data in small chunks, like programs or numerical datasets, not media.
Blu-Ray's max transfer speed is 54Mbps, though that's for recording - 48Mbps is max playback. 3x for buffering during FWD/REV scanning playback would be 144Mbps, 2.25MBps. Big drives currently recommended for personal use, like Seagate's 1TB Barracuda ES.2, get at least 53MBps transfer, over 23x as fast as the fastest it will ever really be asked to deliver. If it weren't so unnecessarily fast, maybe it would cost less, and an array of them for the same hundreds of dollars would hold more content.
With 50GB Blu-Ray HD titles to store, getting more sets of 20 titles in each HD in a RAID is a lot more important than getting them faster than they can be played.
--
make install -not war
So If a billion people owned 100 Yotta bytes that's 10^9*10^9*10^9*100*9 = 8E30 bits
there's something like 10^49 atoms on earth, and we'll only be able to access the crust of which only 5% is iron, and 80% of the earth is covered with water. so if we assume as a wild as guess that perhaps a part in a trillion of the earth can be made into disk drives then we have
1E37 atoms available for disk drives.
if each yottbyte drive weighs say 1/5 of a kilo and we assume it's built out mainly carbon and has say a mean weight of 20 amu per atom then this is like
6E21 atoms
therefore one could build no more than
1E15 drives all total.
Thinking about this number it also makes me wonder about how McDonalds got all those hamburgers.
Maybe I boofed the math or assumptions. Good thing this is slashdot and I know people will kindly correct me
Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
Here are a couple of sources on those prefixes which TFA seems to have confused. They agree with each other:
SearchStorage Definitions
Extreme prefixes
This last one mentions even higher prefixes like vendeka (10^33).
Meh, Still not enough to hold my porn!
...we shall refer to this unit as 'ALotabytes'
...to define a new system of units, since all these terms are becoming more or less arbitrary. We're familiar with them, of course, but in another 20 years, we'll have 20 prefixes, from kilo- to what have you, without a logical pattern. Of course, the exponent will form the most logical basis for the new system. Actually, two new terms may be needed, one for base-2, and one for base-10 (other bases aren't used that much, so are not needed, but can be defined accoardingly). For instance, let's introduce the 'betabyte'. Second Greek letter, and BeTa and BaseTwo are similar. So, 10 betabyte = 2^10 bytes. And if you want base-10 per se, you can use the 'kappabyte'. Of course, both units are incompatible and counter-intuitive since addition and multiplication by integers don't work as expected. But hey, we need something here!
According to wikipedia, the total computer storage in 2006 was estimated to be 160 EB. According to the article, storage doubles every 18 months (at best).
So to get a 1 YB of total storage, one would have to multiply the capacity in 2006 by 6250. The number of times you have to double the capacity is then log2(6250) = 12.6. Given 18-month cycles, this takes 18.9 years. So 1 YB will come in 2025, not in 2011.
Or am I missing something?
The state you are in while your HEAD is detached... - wait, what?
... a YATTABYTE! From Japanese Yatta! Meaning: YEY! Yuppie! I got it! Then we can all become Yattaman! :)
McDonalds did not make a bazillion hamburgers all at once, nor did those hamburgers exist simultaneously. The material for making hamburgers has been recycled through the ecosystem many, many times.
Pre Fetch or Pre Fetch not... there is no Write.
Flash is the path to the bad sector. Flash leads to wear. wear leads to damage. damage leads to lost data.
Tsukasa: All I really want, is to be left alone...
...porn industry executives are confident that they can produce sufficient content to fill that capacity.
Have gnu, will travel.
You heard it here first, unfortunately.
Give a man a fish and you have fed him for today. Teach a man to fish, and he'll say "WHERE'S MY FISH, YOU IDIOT?"
Oh great, that's all we need: another damn external hard drive a dancing around wearing a fig leaf.
Thus far, I've had no need or desire to go above "exa" or below "atto". I hereby refuse to add a prefix as stupid-sounding as "yotta" to my vocabulary! If I ever have to describe quantities on that order of magnitude I'll use the good old "ONE E TWENTY FOUR".
Anyway, either this article or wikipedia is wrong because the article on Yottabyte says: "In fact, the combined space of all the computer hard drives in the world does not amount to even one zettabyte. According to one study, all the world's computers stored approximately 160 exabytes in 2006, with nearly 1 zettabyte projected by 2010."
Someone here is off by about three orders of magnitude...
Live today, because you never know what tomorrow brings
I wonder if HP is taking into account the vast volumes of data that are currently migrating (or being replicated) to Cloud Storage, like the Nirvanix SDN and their various competitors.
Presumably, the storage required will double or triple as companies migrate single copies of data into the cloud where it is stored multiple times. Even if larger corporations wind up using cloud storage for nothing other than backup/archival, the amounts of data stored still grow exponentially.
-SM
Dear slashdot editors,
A yottabyte is not "a billion gigabytes." How about trying to confirm or understand the numbers your post, before you slap them on the front page?
The binary prefix giga = 10243
The binary prefix yotta = 10248
That means a yottabyte is 10245 gigabytes, or roughly one million billion gigabytes.
My bicyles
That's a yotta data!
a exabyte. A Yottabyte, as mentioned, is a few orders of magnitude more.
/obligatory
but is that gonna be enough for windows? i'm partial to Biggabyte.
How much data is a "Rhode Island"?
-
A Yottabyte sounds like a lot - but that's only a million Terabytes. Doesn't the industry already sell a couple of million half-Terabyte drives per year?
I was hoping someone would go there. Thank you!
Laughter is the Spackle of the Soul.
1 trillion = 1000 million
1 quadrillion = 1000 trillion or 1 million billion
"When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
I meant 1 trillion = 1000 billion...haste makes waste :(
"When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
The first time I read that, I thought they meant that they anticipated that they would be shipping a Yottabyte per year to me. My excitement wore off rather quickly after a second parse.
http://www.afrotechmods.com/cheap/hdspeakers/hdspeakers.htm
http://www.afrotechmods.com/cheap/hdspeakers/yatta1.avi
http://www.afrotechmods.com/cheap/hdspeakers/yatta2.avi
I was really disappointed when I learned this was overall sales and not something that is going to be in one disk. ):
Random Thoughts From A Diseased Mind (Not For Dummies)
David Roberson...predicts that by 2013 the storage industry will be shipping a yottabyte (a billion gigabytes) of storage capacity annually
Something tells me David Roberson received a copy of the initial specs for Windows 9.
There's no place like
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHu6VD5nQOM
i long for the day of YBs per box at LANs. DC++ raping will take a whole new level
Is that we haven't come close to theoretical storage densities yet. Seagate expects to achieve 50TB/inch^2 by the next decade. Currently we are at around 200GB/inch^2. So that's around 250* what we have now. A 250TB drive would contain 41k 6GB DVDs, or 5k 50GB Blu-ray discs.
For comparison purposes, the number of movies/year on IMDB is about 20-25k in recent years. If each movie is 2 hours long, that means that if you spent 12 hours per day every day watching movies, you would only get through 2190 movies per year.
Another comparison: If you wanted to record every waking hour of your life and you lived until age 75, that's 438000 hours. If you had one 250TB drive, you'd fit it all if encoded to something like XVid.
The continuing unimpeded exponential growth of storage media just blows my mind.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7044606.stm
http://business.pcauthority.com.au/feature/3203,futuretech-bigger-better-and-faster-hard-drives.aspx/1
If I have seen further it is by stealing the Intellectual Property of giants.
I haven't read anything so informative in years. I already learned how to count many bajillions of times higher thanks to jez9999's link (took all of 5 minutes).
So let's see, 49% of that would go to Google to record the entire web, and 49% would go to the NSA to record the rest of the internet, and 2% for the rest of us?
J
byte = 8 bits or on off switches
nibble= two bytes (usually)
word= four bytes
kilobyte =1000 or 1024 bytes 10^3 or 2^10 bytes
Megabyte = 1,000,000 or 10*10*10*10*10*10 or 10^6 or actually 2^20 bytes
Gigabyte = 1,000,000,000 or 10^9 or 2^30 bytes
Terabyte = 1,000,000,000,000 or 10^12 or 2^40 bytes
Petabyte = 1,000,000,000,000,000 or 10^15 or 2^50 bytes
Exabyte = 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 or 10^18 or 2^60 bytes
Zetabyte = 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 or 10^21 or 2^70 bytes
Yottabyte = 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 or 10^24 or 2^80 bytes
The naming conventions of bytes is greek. Look it up Peta is like Penta (five commas), exa like hex( six commas), zeta like septa (seven commas) yotta like octal count em eight commas. a kilo is literally looked up as a thousand . I forget what Mega, giga, and tera mean but for their time, they were naming them probably for making a sale or to make it look like much. when in all actuallity who knows... depends on what you do with it.
The numbers from the article are public totals for the year 2013.
The BlueGene L super computer simulates half of mouse's brain at only hundreds of TBs storage and 16 TB memory. An entire human brain is obviously many orders of magnitude away from today's everyday technology. But with photonic siliconics around the corner your most wild dreams may come true.
YottaByte broken down by units of HDDVD movies and a 60 year human lifespan..: var Y = 1 YottaByte (1 Billion Gigabytes), var D = 8 GigaByte HD DVD Movie, var X = Y / D, X = 125,000,000 HD DVD's, Total Hours in Average Human Lifespan var Lifespan = 24 * 365 * 60, Lifespan = 525,600 total hours, Total Number of Movies the Average Human Would have to watch to add up to one YottaByte var A = 2 hours (Average DVD Length), var T = 125,000,000 (Total HD DVDs in YottaByte), var Z = A * T (250,000,000 Hours of Movie Time), Total Number of LIFETIMES the average human would have to live to watch 1 YottaByte worth of Movies. var Z = 250,000,000 hours of movietime, var A = 525,600 total hours in human lifetime at 60, var T = Z / A, T = 476~ Lifetimes to watch 1 YOTTABYTE of HD DVDs, So if we watched nothing but movies all day and night and were to die at the age of 60, we would have to live 476 lives to watch all the movies in our 125,000,000 dvd library. There is only one use for this much storage.. Can you say "BIG BROTHER"