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Tooth Regeneration Coming Soon

Ponca City, We love you writes "For thousands of years, losing teeth has been a routine part of human aging. Now the Washington Post reports that researchers are close to growing important parts of teeth from stem cells, including creating a living root from scratch, perhaps within one year. According to Pamela Robey of the NIH. 'Dentists say, "Give me a root and I can put a crown on it."' In a few years dentists will treat periodontal disease with regeneration by using stem cells to create hard and soft tissue; they will take out a tooth that is about to fall, and reconnect it firmly to the regenerated tissue. Although nobody is predicting when it will be possible to grow teeth on demand, in adults, to replace missing ones, a common guess is five to ten years. Baby and wisdom teeth are sources of stem cells that could be 'banked' for future health needs, says Robey. 'When you think about it, the teeth children put under their pillows may end up being worth much more than the tooth fairy's going rate. Plus, if you still have your wisdom teeth, it's nice to know you're walking around with your own source of stem cells.'"

289 comments

  1. My opinion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    This research bites!

    1. Re:My opinion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      punbelievable!

    2. Re:My opinion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Isn't that the tooth.

    3. Re:My opinion by db10 · · Score: 1

      This kind of humor is getting a bit long in the tooth

  2. whatcouldpossiblygowrong? by philspear · · Score: 0

    Vampire teeth I guess.

    1. Re:whatcouldpossiblygowrong? by conureman · · Score: 1

      Edentulous. I always used edentate. Waddyaknow.

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  3. Going rate... by LostCluster · · Score: 4, Funny

    My parents were good to me, they adjusted the 25-cents a tooth they got for inflation... wonder what I'll have to pay my kids?

    1. Re:Going rate... by MichaelSmith · · Score: 4, Funny

      My parents were good to me, they adjusted the 25-cents a tooth they got for inflation... wonder what I'll have to pay my kids?

      My six year old son says two dollars. But then he has a DS game buying habit to suppport.

    2. Re:Going rate... by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      My parents were good to me, they adjusted the 25-cents a tooth they got for inflation... wonder what I'll have to pay my kids?

      This sort of thing is likely to be pretty expensive. I'm thinking and arm and a leg (yours).

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    3. Re:Going rate... by passion · · Score: 1

      I actually cried when my teeth were replaced with money. Miraculously enough, when I woke up in the morning, my tooth was back, and the money had vanished. By some freak luck, I managed to keep all of my baby teeth in a packet after they all fell out... perhaps these will pay off? Who knows?

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    4. Re:Going rate... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      25 euros.

    5. Re:Going rate... by canonymous · · Score: 1
    6. Re:Going rate... by renegadesx · · Score: 4, Funny

      All these decades we thought the tooth fairy was a sweet rich angel sharing her wealth with poor kids... now we know the truth!

      The tooth fairy is a smart, cunning businesswoman planning to cash in big on her investment!

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    7. Re:Going rate... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      25 euros.

      Which equals $33.45. Perhaps you meant 25 euro cents? :-)

    8. Re:Going rate... by Fred_A · · Score: 1

      So children are finally worth something nowadays ?

      Hmmmm (rubs hands...)

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    9. Re:Going rate... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So he only needs to lose 15 teeth to buy a new DS game? Bargain.

    10. Re:Going rate... by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      I give my daughter a silver eagle for each tooth. She thinks they're cool (she's 8) and she can't spend them. Cool!

      Figure I'll do this through her wisdom teeth. By the time she's done, she'll have 30 pieces of silver.

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    11. Re:Going rate... by operagost · · Score: 1

      Awesome! Then she'll be able to pay off that whistleblower, Judas!

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    12. Re:Going rate... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do they have a GameStop in West Virginia or do you have to drive to a neighboring state to get it?

    13. Re:Going rate... by Sinning · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hooray for reasons to punch babies!

    14. Re:Going rate... by witherstaff · · Score: 1

      I take it you haven't read, or seen hogfather? The tooth fairy could lead to the end of existance!

    15. Re:Going rate... by SpinningCone · · Score: 1

      well it seems we finally can reveal the Tooth Fairy's step 2...

      1. Sneak into houses and pay kids for their teeth

      2. Sell decades worth of children's teeth to stem cell researchers

      3. Profit!

    16. Re:Going rate... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That bitch!

  4. Well, now that just SUCKS. by ScrewMaster · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Plus, if you still have your wisdom teeth

    I don't have them ... my dentist finally convinced me to have them removed a couple years ago.

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    1. Re:Well, now that just SUCKS. by MichaelSmith · · Score: 2, Funny

      Plus, if you still have your wisdom teeth

      I don't have them ... my dentist finally convinced me to have them removed a couple years ago.

      Wasn't there something recently about making stem cells from normal (I think) tissue in the reproductive system?

    2. Re:Well, now that just SUCKS. by alienunknown · · Score: 1

      Plus, if you still have your wisdom teeth

      I don't have them ... my dentist finally convinced me to have them removed a couple years ago.

      I was just about to post the same thing. Oh well. I really don't miss the pain my wisdom teeth gave me though.

    3. Re:Well, now that just SUCKS. by JavaBasedOS · · Score: 4, Funny

      Plus, if you still have your wisdom teeth

      I don't have them ... my dentist finally convinced me to have them removed a couple years ago.

      Wasn't there something recently about making stem cells from normal (I think) tissue in the reproductive system?

      Why must it always boil down to choosing between something cool and losing our fertility? :(

    4. Re:Well, now that just SUCKS. by aliquis · · Score: 3, Funny

      Oh no, look at all the waste! I knew I should have saved it!

    5. Re:Well, now that just SUCKS. by raddan · · Score: 3, Funny

      That's fine, assuming you want a mouthful of sperm.

      /me ducks

    6. Re:Well, now that just SUCKS. by ceoyoyo · · Score: 5, Interesting

      If you can pull stem cells out of a wisdom tooth I don't see why you couldn't pull them out of any tooth you wanted. Sacrifice a back molar then regrow it, along with any other teeth you need replaced.

    7. Re:Well, now that just SUCKS. by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 4, Funny

      My girlfriend swears she likes the taste... I've decided I can accept that.

    8. Re:Well, now that just SUCKS. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I don't have them ... my dentist finally convinced me to have them removed a couple years ago.

      I had mine pulled years ago as well. Now I keep them on a chain around my neck. I get lots of dates now!

    9. Re:Well, now that just SUCKS. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      That's what she tells me and the rest of the team, too!

    10. Re:Well, now that just SUCKS. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What will you do when she wants more than you can produce? She will suck you out!

    11. Re:Well, now that just SUCKS. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, the taste is really heavily variable, depending on your diet. (same applies to a woman's secretions).

    12. Re:Well, now that just SUCKS. by lawpoop · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I've had mine since they came in. ( Well, I guess that's a redundant statement )

      How/why did your dentist convince you to get them removed? Were they bothering you? Did you have other problems that they thought might be related? Has there been an improvement in your life?

      I've been bothered by migraine and cluster headaches, and neck and back tension for a long time. However, they started when I was 13, about five years before my wisdom teeth came in.

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    13. Re:Well, now that just SUCKS. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's funny because it saying "my girlfriend" makes it so unrealistic ...

    14. Re:Well, now that just SUCKS. by xorm · · Score: 1

      I got mine pulled last week. News for nerds, _just in time_.

    15. Re:Well, now that just SUCKS. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      My girlfriend swears she likes the taste... I've decided I can accept that.

      Give her a treat by drinking lots of pineapple juice or eating bananas or papayas. Also, lay off the red meat, alcohol, and coffee.

      The fruits will make it sweeter while red meat, alcohol and coffee will make it bitter.

      What will you do when she wants more than you can produce? She will suck you out!

      Wheat germ can help you produce more.

    16. Re:Well, now that just SUCKS. by Aladrin · · Score: 3, Interesting

      A friend of mine had his removed because he was having headaches. Since I was also having headaches, I asked a doctor and his reply:

      No, that probably will not fix your head or jaw aches.

      He still recommended that I have them removed for other reasons, including the fact that the longer you wait, the more dangerous it is. There's always a chance that removal will tear a nerve in your cheek giving you a permanently numb cheek, among other dangers.

      As always, I am -not- a doctor. You should only take medical advice from a doctor.

      With this research, I'm wondering if I should have waited, though. The advice above about getting the stem cells from another back tooth is a good idea, though. Even if they (for some reason) couldn't regrow that back tooth, I'd gladly trade a back one for a front one.

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    17. Re:Well, now that just SUCKS. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They can't all be winners, can they?

    18. Re:Well, now that just SUCKS. by renegadesx · · Score: 1

      I've got 2 left, I got one removed about 2 months ago, but by that stage it was really half a tooth and I had another removed 4 years ago

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    19. Re:Well, now that just SUCKS. by lastchance_000 · · Score: 1

      I just turned 43, and no one's ever even suggested that I have them removed. I'm just lucky, I guess.

    20. Re:Well, now that just SUCKS. by martin-boundary · · Score: 1

      I've had mine since they came in. ( Well, I guess that's a redundant statement )

      Back in my day, when we wanted wisdom teeth, we had to walk 5 miles and pick them up ourselves. Uphill. Both ways. In the snow.

    21. Re:Well, now that just SUCKS. by stimpleton · · Score: 1

      My dentist did not convince me. Perhaps I am lucky. Very good teeth, but 25 years ago he said my mouth was heading to meltdown due to the impending growth of my wisdom teeth. This was supported by some pointing at some vague x-rays To this day, still have 'em and no probs. My girlfriend over the time had hers out as a matter of couse due to dental advice. I know some have problems with wisdom teeth, but then, they have mouths filled with what look like grey wooden pegs in lieu of teeth. I suspect the wisdom teeth thing is half racket.

      glad i still have mine.

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    22. Re:Well, now that just SUCKS. by porcupine8 · · Score: 1

      Mine are in perfectly normally (no impaction, nothing), and I've had exactly one dentist suggest getting them removed. And two others tell me to ignore any dentist who tells me that. Although they *do* say that if I ever get a cavity in one, it'd be best to get them all removed - good thing I floss! (Though I use those flosser things b/c I can't get my fingers in far enough to wrap floss around the extra set of teeth...)

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    23. Re:Well, now that just SUCKS. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have a girlfriend? You're new here, aren't you?

    24. Re:Well, now that just SUCKS. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Getting wisdom teeth removed is about how the teeth are coming in. If there is space in the jaw and the teeth are coming in straight, then they won't need to remove them. If the teeth do not come in straight, then the wisdom teeth can impact with the other teeth, causing other problems.

      There might be other things, but I remember that much from when I had to get my teeth removed.

    25. Re:Well, now that just SUCKS. by Libertarian001 · · Score: 1

      I wonder if you'd have any recourse for the bad advice? Probably not, since, in the end, it was your decision. OTOH, Uncle Sam ordered me to have mine removed, against my wishes, while in boot camp. Think I have a claim?

    26. Re:Well, now that just SUCKS. by Grimbleton · · Score: 1

      You guys are lucky bastards. I had a molar removed from both sides, top and bottom, AND my wisdom teeth, to correct a "Holy shit, my teeth are jamming against each other and turning funny directions" issue when I was young.

      It sucks being a tall fat guy with a moderately large head, and a short jaw.

    27. Re:Well, now that just SUCKS. by laejoh · · Score: 1

      I find your ideas interesting and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

    28. Re:Well, now that just SUCKS. by jez9999 · · Score: 3, Funny

      'Something cool' would seem to be the sensible choice in that case. :-P

    29. Re:Well, now that just SUCKS. by Eg0Death · · Score: 1

      I had 6 wisdom teeth. My dentist stongly suggested I have them removed as there would not be enough space in my face for them. I felt obliged to comply.

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    30. Re:Well, now that just SUCKS. by the+grace+of+R'hllor · · Score: 1

      That's... disturbing, Johnny.

    31. Re:Well, now that just SUCKS. by PRMan · · Score: 1

      You might try keeping a log of what you eat. You may be allergic to Nutrasweet or soy or something. It all depends on what year you were 13.

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    32. Re:Well, now that just SUCKS. by El+Yanqui · · Score: 1

      The navy pulled mine out even though I had no problems. If you go on submarines it's automatic. I suppose it beats getting an abscess while out on patrol with only a corpsman equipped with motrin.

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    33. Re:Well, now that just SUCKS. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Give her a treat by drinking lots of pineapple juice or eating bananas or papayas. Also, lay off the red meat, alcohol, and coffee.

      The fruits will make it sweeter while red meat, alcohol and coffee will make it bitter.

      That'll be a fun conversation.

      Her: "What's with all the bananas and juice?"
      You: "Makes my spooge taste good. You're welcome, doll."

    34. Re:Well, now that just SUCKS. by MBGMorden · · Score: 5, Funny

      Somehow I just don't see it as a worthwhile goal to adjust one's diet to affect the taste of your sperm.

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    35. Re:Well, now that just SUCKS. by TehZorroness · · Score: 1

      Thought out like a true hacker.

    36. Re:Well, now that just SUCKS. by AdamThor · · Score: 3, Funny

      If you have to evaluate your own results, then probably not.

      If you have a partner to do the experimental analysis then it may well be worthwhile.

      If you can gather a whole research team, then I'd say you should definitely go for it.

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    37. Re:Well, now that just SUCKS. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Depends on the girlfriend...

    38. Re:Well, now that just SUCKS. by NoNsense · · Score: 1

      It does if it gets you more h34d.

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    39. Re:Well, now that just SUCKS. by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      What will you do when she wants more than you can produce? She will suck you out!

      More likely she'll just branch out. I mean, variety is the spice of life, and spice is the plural of spouse.

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    40. Re:Well, now that just SUCKS. by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      Plus, if you still have your wisdom teeth

      I don't have them ... my dentist finally convinced me to have them removed a couple years ago.

      I was just about to post the same thing. Oh well. I really don't miss the pain my wisdom teeth gave me though.

      Me neither.

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    41. Re:Well, now that just SUCKS. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're damn lucky, I had my back right molar impacted by a wisdom tooth, which required both a root canal and crown. Ugh, thank god for insurance, but the Vicodin was worth it!

  5. I have a friend who grew a tooth. by jcr · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A couple of years after having a tooth extracted, a new one came in, and his dentist was going over his older x-rays to make sure that the tooth coming in hadn't been there all along. Apparently it's a very rare thing, but not completely unheard of, and we all grow teeth at least once in our lives.

    -jcr

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    1. Re:I have a friend who grew a tooth. by Arancaytar · · Score: 1

      and we all grow teeth at least once in our lives.

      Three times, technically, though I'm not sure when the wisdom teeth start to develop. Could be they start at the same time and are just late in breaking through.

    2. Re:I have a friend who grew a tooth. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Almost everyone grows milk teeth (except those with anodontia), most grow permanent teeth. not everyone grows wisdom teeth (quite common that people don't grow them or all of them).

    3. Re:I have a friend who grew a tooth. by techno-vampire · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Years ago, I worked with a woman who'd had three complete sets of teeth. Just after she finished getting rid of her baby teeth, her front teeth started to get loose. The dentist couldn't find anything wrong, but X-rays revealed that there was a third set of teeth growing below, so she had to go through the whole process again as a teenager.

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    4. Re:I have a friend who grew a tooth. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apparently it's a very rare thing, but not completely unheard of, and we all grow teeth at least once in our lives.

      People with anodontia would disagree with you.

    5. Re:I have a friend who grew a tooth. by lawpoop · · Score: 1

      Most people grow them twice! :)

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    6. Re:I have a friend who grew a tooth. by iluvcapra · · Score: 2, Informative

      The wisdom teeth are part of your permanent tier, they just erupt later. Back before we had good dentistry, it wasn't uncommon for an individual to be missing a tooth or two by the time they reached 25, and so when the wisdom teeth came in, they would rack in from the back and shift the others forward.

      Now that tooth loss is uncommon, wisdom teeth are regularly extracted, since they're liable to become impacted if there isn't space (from missing teeth) for them to grow in.

      And it's true that some people don't grow wisdom teeth. It's also true that some people only grow two, and some people grow six.

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    7. Re:I have a friend who grew a tooth. by Starayo · · Score: 1

      I had three of my right upper central incisor... After the baby tooth, out came this unholy twisted enamel, truly the tooth of the devil himself. Maybe.

      Anyway, after that my normal one came through.

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    8. Re:I have a friend who grew a tooth. by jcr · · Score: 3, Informative

      Most people grow them twice! :)

      No, you usually grow them once. After that, it's just a matter of them moving into place.

      -jcr

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    9. Re:I have a friend who grew a tooth. by tbird81 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'm not a dentist, but I have seen a child's skull with the mandible dissected at a museum. You can see a whole lot of adult teeth lined up under the baby ones.

      I was looking for a picture of this on the net, but couldn't find one quickly on google images. But take a look at this picture Baby teeth and the x-ray on this dental site.

      So I'd guess the wisdoms are just waiting under the baby teeth to pop up. Just a little longer than the others.

    10. Re:I have a friend who grew a tooth. by purpleraison · · Score: 1

      Rest assured that 3rd molars do not grow beneath any other teeth, they non-succedaneous teeth. This means that first, second, and third molars NEVER follow baby teeth.

      My educated guess is that this dentist did not look at recent radiographs prior to removing the tooth. Any dentist would be able to know if another tooth exists by looking at radiographs, but only if those radiographs were recent.

      So, for diagnostic purposes a 12 year old would need a panograph within a few years to be worth anything. To properly identify wisdom teeth = 3rd molars, I would need to see a radiograph within the last year. Anything beyond 3 years prior to their development wouldn't show me anything.

      This is not to suggest the dentist did anything wrong, more likely he just didn't have up-to-date radiographs, and that is why he was surprised.

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    11. Re:I have a friend who grew a tooth. by MellowTigger · · Score: 1

      True. I am 41 years old, and I still have a baby tooth in my mouth. I was born without the adult tooth in this one position that would have pushed the baby tooth out of place eventually. I had the baby tooth capped (to even it out its height with my other teeth) around age 15, and it's still doing fine.

    12. Re:I have a friend who grew a tooth. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I still have a baby tooth in my mouth.

      Me too. But that's only because I was standing too close to the microwave when it exploded.

    13. Re:I have a friend who grew a tooth. by AdamThor · · Score: 1

      In a genetics class many years ago I was informed that there was a human genetic condition that caused teeth to continuously fall out and be replaced. I was looking for web info regarding the condition, but such info was swamped by the pages about regrowing teeth from stem cells. I don't know how it works.

      I do know that it would be pretty sweet to be able to continuously confuse dentists.

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    14. Re:I have a friend who grew a tooth. by jacks0n · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I had three full sets of teeth too. I got hit in the face by my little sister when I was ~16 (don't ask), and the front teeth came right out. I could feel and see the nubs of the new teeth coming in right beneath them, and the teeth that came out were clearly not adult teeth though they weren't exactly like baby teeth either. Ultimately I lost all my teeth that year. Oddly, when I was ~24 my canines got loose and came out, with a new set below them, so 4 sets of canines. X-Rays confirm I'm on my adult teeth now, which sucks. I liked having spares.

      A few of my brothers and sisters had 3 sets of canines, but I was the only one with three complete sets out of 9 kids. I asked around my extended family, and on my mother's side heard of a few more people who had had three sets, so apparently there is some genetic basis for it.

    15. Re:I have a friend who grew a tooth. by Sinical · · Score: 1

      I did it: I had a 2nd permanent tooth coming up under the first (around tooth 26 or 27, I think: lower right part of my jaw): had to have oral surgery to have it removed. Happened when I was around 13, I think: made a few shark jokes.

  6. Hm. Great by imsabbel · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now the replacement after the painful procedure will ALSO be able to rot and hurt like the original. Fuck yeah !

    (only half joking. I was really happy after a root channel treatment, as that damn think was finally dead and not able to hurt anymore. In constrast to the year before.)

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    1. Re:Hm. Great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do people really not floss and brush their teeth? It's beyond me how many 30-somethings have lost teeth and have root canals! I still have all my teeth. Then again I don't smoke or drink coffee.

    2. Re:Hm. Great by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 4, Interesting

      On the flipside, many of my teeth required some sort of work done on them after a course of treatment by a dubious orthodontist when I was a kid. Since then, even though dentists have always told me I have generally good oral hygiene, it seems like I have to get some filling or something replaced every few months, which is expensive and occasionally painful. I would give a lot to have real, intact teeth again, and articles like this give me some hope that one day it might even be possible. (I hear you on the root surgery thing, though: been there, done that too.)

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    3. Re:Hm. Great by ceoyoyo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Instead of painful root canals you'd just yank the tooth and grow another in it's place.

    4. Re:Hm. Great by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 0

      PULLING A TOOTH OUT IS NOT PAINFUL?! aaaaaaaaaa aaa aaaaaa a aaaaaaa a aaaaa aa a aaaaaaaaaaa aa aaaaaaaaa a a aaaaaa a aaaaaaa a aaa a aa a a

    5. Re:Hm. Great by ceoyoyo · · Score: 2, Informative

      Less painful than some drilling, a filling or two, then later a root canal, or possibly repeated root canals if the first doesn't quite get it.

    6. Re:Hm. Great by DarkAce911 · · Score: 1

      Think braces back in the 80's and 90's plus soda.

    7. Re:Hm. Great by unfunk · · Score: 1

      I had a bike accident when I was 16, where I chipped part of one of my molars off, exposing the dentine (the soft stuff under the enamel cap). The dentist who treated me didn't do a terribly great job of fixing it up, so the covering she put on there fell off after a few months.
      I didn't notice at the time, but eventually, I'd get infections every few months, as the tooth slowly rotted from the inside out - regardless of how much I brushed, flossed & rinsed. The doctors would put me on massive dosages of penicillin to kill the infection, and everything would be fine for a few more months.

      This went on for 12 years before I figured I should see a dentist about it. He took one look at it and told me I had two options - root canal or pulling. The root canal process would cost in the thousands and there'd be a waiting period, or I could get it pulled by a colleague of his who only ever pulled teeth - nothing else, for $200.
      Naturally, I went for the pulling option. The tooth itself had a huge hole in the exposed dentine and stank like... well... a seashell.
      I've never felt better since getting it pulled.

      I guess the moral of the story is that sometimes it just can't be helped, no matter how good your dental hygiene is.

    8. Re:Hm. Great by CannonballHead · · Score: 1

      I had a root canal and I am in my 20s. I have never lost a tooth, and I have only had two small cavities in my life. The reason for my root canal was an abscessed tooth, and the dentist said he has no idea how I got it, since I wasn't in a fist fight, I don't have dental problems, etc. It was a very painful event (the pain became very unbearable by the time I saw the dentist and he released the built up pressure in the tooth), but it had nothing to do with brushing/flossing...

      Not to say that no one has problems because of not brushing/flossing, just giving anecdotal evidence of a root canal that was unrelated to dental hygiene :) (only thing we can come up with are frisbee games in which I sometimes ran into something with my face... e.g., someone's arm)

    9. Re:Hm. Great by ClioCJS · · Score: 1
      during the process, definitely not. Afterwards, it depends on the person. (Me, sleep 24 hours and am fine. Wife? hurt 30 days)

      Oral surgery, however, is different. It hurts when it happens, it hurts like hell afterwards, and Wendy's Frosties actually become medicinal by being the only thing you can eat to put any calories (even if they are empty) in you while at the same time being cold so you can leave it on the wound (with yummy results), causing 1 frosty to provide 30+ minutes of relief.

      It looks pretty gnarly too. I took pictures. They're quite poplular:

      http://www.flickr.com/photos/clintjcl/tags/aftersurgery

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    10. Re:Hm. Great by dimeglio · · Score: 1

      "I think I need a root canal. I definitely need a long, slow root canal."

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    11. Re:Hm. Great by compro01 · · Score: 1

      21 and one root canal here, right eye tooth. Tooth was apparently killed somehow while I was wearing braces. Was a very easy thing (easier than any filling), being as the tooth was already completely dead.

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    12. Re:Hm. Great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Instead of painful root canals you'd just yank the tooth and grow another in it's place.

      No sysadmin jokes yet?

    13. Re:Hm. Great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "after a course of treatment by a dubious orthodontist"

      same here... in fact, i've heard this so often i've come to the conclusion they're all scam artists. but then, what for-profit operation doesn't do a little dirty work to make a buck?

      i want a co-operative dentist office, where the patients and the dentist really work together to provide for all their needs. and both the dentist and the regular patients pay the same price for services!

    14. Re:Hm. Great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My root canal:
      dd if=/dev/hda1
      Long and slow.

    15. Re:Hm. Great by TooMuchToDo · · Score: 1

      With the pace biotechnology has been moving in the last 2-4 years (stem cell research, regeneration, etc), I would expect that almost anything in your body (sans brain) will be able to be regenerated in say another 5 years. Not a bad thing in my opinion. I look forward to living forever.

    16. Re:Hm. Great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are sudo canals easier to use than root canals?

    17. Re:Hm. Great by Hamsterdan · · Score: 1

      No. It's kinda pulling a nail. Not that bad really...

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    18. Re:Hm. Great by Sinbios · · Score: 1
      This is why normal people go for dental checkups every year. None of your doctors, over twelve years of pain in your mouth, recommended that you should get a dentist to check it out?

      I think you got the wrong moral out of this story.

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    19. Re:Hm. Great by NoisySplatter · · Score: 1

      I also got treated by what I would consider a scam orthodontist as a kid. I was prescribed to wear headgear every night when i slept to correct an "overbite". Despite the fact that I never wore it my treatment of course progressed admirably. After I had my braces off after 2 years of course i had to wear a retainer to make sure the teeth "stayed where they were". I never wore that either and sure enough it worked like a charm.

      Maybe I have fucking miracle teeth or something. I floss about 4 times a year and brush my teeth about twice a week. I do use mouthwash nearly every day though. I have never had a cavity in my adult teeth. However, my "baby" teeth nearly all had cavities despite brushing every day.

      If it actually existed and wasn't painful, I'd volunteer to get rid of all my teeth in favor of some sort of permanent metal implants that I had to care for even less.

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    20. Re:Hm. Great by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 1
      That's nothing. Try this on for size:
      1. October 2007: Tooth ache when drinking cold water or beer.
      2. November 2007 & January 2008: Dentist: "Oh, it's nothing, you just have extra sensitive teeth. Have some fluor! If it was an infection, it would hurt always and not just when drinking cold.".
      3. February 2008. Suddenly, one day, tooth ache stops. Hooray! But what are are all these blisters and itching all over my mouth? And why is my tongue dark green? Fortunately, there's Hextril Mouthwash...
      4. March 2008. A big lump develops near the "formerly" cumbersome tooth
      5. March-May 2008: Root canal! (yes, this took 5 visits over the course of almost 2 months to get done)
      6. October 2008: Same tooth almost completely destroyed
      7. Ocotber 2008: Dentist: "Wanna have a crown?" Me: "Sure, if it'll solve the problem for good. What will be the price?" Dentist: "700 €" Me: "Gasp! But I guess I'll have no choice"
      8. November 2008: After 5 more visits including several botched attempts due to a very mis-shapen tooth opposite the troublesome one, I finally have a brand new tooth 17
      9. January 2009: Me: "hey, this chocolate is not supposed to have nuts. So what's that hard bit?" "Oh, it's the crown!"

      Yeah, teeth, a never-ending source of fun...

    21. Re:Hm. Great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Better yet, figure out the horomone cycle (at least that's my guess) that the emerging adult teeth trigger in the baby teeth. No pulling at all. When you put in the "seed" for the replacement, also put in the stuff that will make the old tooth above disconnect on its own. No drilling, pliers, and all that unnecessary trouble, when its ready - it'll do the same thing a baby tooth does.

      Also I know someone who may be researching this as part of a biology thesis. So my guess as to what might be possible may not be that far off.

    22. Re:Hm. Great by imsabbel · · Score: 1

      Well, guess you didnt have a fresh from the university doc work on a hole in your tooth before.

      I just say "oops, that was too deep", followed by over a year of "maybe the inflamation will stop at some point".

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    23. Re:Hm. Great by Explo · · Score: 1

      Although I'm 30-something and have only 5 fillings in my teeth (all of which I originally got in my teens; no new cavities since that), sometimes one can just have bad luck. Here's my personal experience:

      Some years ago, I had an old, somewhat loose filling replaced in one of my molars. All seemed to be well, until one day my jaw started to swell. It turned out that there had been a small chipping in that tooth (I hadn't even noticed anything). However, it was sufficiently large to allow bacteria to pass between the filling and the tooth. As the original cavity was rather deep, the nerve had eventually got exposed to the bacteria, died silently (I hadn't really had any toothache) and eventually an abscess formed in my jaw. Luckily, an endodontist was able to perform a successful root canal on it, and as the root was already dead, the biggest pain on the whole operation came from having to keep my mouth wide open for an hour or so, which isn't exactly something my muscles are used to.

      Then again, bad luck doesn't of course explain having half-a-dozen root canals/missing teeth; I suppose that's caused by either bad habits or poor genes (or a combination of both).

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    24. Re:Hm. Great by KDR_11k · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Over here root canals are covered by the insurance and I don't think there was a waiting period at all when I got mine.

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    25. Re:Hm. Great by KDR_11k · · Score: 1

      Oh I love it when the dentist says "that tooth is dead, you won't feel anything", that's usually a prelude to lots of screaming.

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    26. Re:Hm. Great by KDR_11k · · Score: 1

      Dentist: "Oh, it's nothing, you just have extra sensitive teeth. Have some fluor! If it was an infection, it would hurt always and not just when drinking cold.".

      Huh? When I had that the immediate response was "it's inflamed, we'll have to perform a root canal!". I was scared so there was some paste applied to the teeth, they still react to cold or sweet stuff (though not when eating healthy food, lowered my sweets consumption to some degree) but the dentist said only one (out of four) of the teeth needed a root canal due to the treatment. That was a few years ago and the situation has remained pretty much the same since then so I guess the paste did something.

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    27. Re:Hm. Great by MBGMorden · · Score: 1

      If it actually existed and wasn't painful, I'd volunteer to get rid of all my teeth in favor of some sort of permanent metal implants that I had to care for even less.

      I think they can do that (or something close to it). I have one tooth that I lost (it had had a root canal done, I put off getting the crown for too long, and eventually it cracked and had to be removed). In place of it I got an implant. It's essentially a "false root" that consists of a titanium screw that goes up into the jaw bone and then protrudes through the gum tissue. After everything heals there a dentist can affix any sort of crown to the screw (mine's porcelain or some such natural looking material, but I think they have metal crowns). All that said, having a whole mouth done with implants is very expensive ($50k+) and normally done on the elderly.

      All that aside though, if you don't brush your teeth (or your metal implants if you were to have such a procedure done), it's not just the teeth themselves that you have to worry about. The build up of material in the crevices will start to damage your gum tissue and eventually lead to periodontal disease (where teeth can literally fall out, regardless of their condition, if the gum tissue around them isn't enough to support them anymore).

      Seriously, it's easier, cleaner, and just better to brush your teeth. It doesn't take much time.

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    28. Re:Hm. Great by ricosalomar · · Score: 1

      I floss and brush regularly, and see the dentist twice a ear, but...
      Bike crash at age 16. Bent my front teeth all up, but I had braces and they saved my teeth.
      Over the years, I would mention to my dentists that a couple of my teeth felt "funny", but they said, "If they don't hurt, they're fine."
      20 years on, they started to hurt, two were dead, and there was a huge (~1cm) abscess way up there. So I got 2 root canals. Not really too bad.
      But that wasn't enough, so a year later I got an apicoectomy. That sucked, a lot.
      My endodontist thinks it's likely that I will keep them, but the damage from the crash turned out to be more than could be gleaned from an x-ray (some radial fracturing).
      He says that 40 years of flossing has kept my gums healthy enough to hold on.

    29. Re:Hm. Great by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1

      Then STOP EATING THAT FUCKIN' CRAP!

      Did you ever imagine, that teeth are made to eat, by nature? So under normal conditions, they will not rot and hurt!
      But when was the last time, a person form the so-called "developed" countries ate species-appropriate food??

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    30. Re:Hm. Great by FunkSoulBrother · · Score: 1

      Stop anthropomorphizing nature! Under normal conditions, a large majority of us would be dead in childbirth, etc etc etc.

    31. Re:Hm. Great by shaitand · · Score: 1

      Its called money and good insurance. Some of you have it, most of us don't.

    32. Re:Hm. Great by gknoy · · Score: 1

      While I like the idea of a maintenance-free mouth, I would REALLY hate the loss of feeling. I have had a couple of root canals, and those teeth have a distinctly different (lesser) amount of sensitivity to touch.

    33. Re:Hm. Great by RadioElectric · · Score: 1

      As a drooling puddle?

  7. Nothing but good stuff here. by I_Can't_Fly · · Score: 1
    Now I want some nano-bot toothpaste stuff that works during the night. Little bots that clean and brush and fill enamel whilst we sleep, and then get swallowed and dissolve in the stomach.

    Maybe one day.

    Patent Applied For. :P

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    1. Re:Nothing but good stuff here. by Hurricane78 · · Score: 0, Troll

      Yeah. All this technology, so you can continue stuffing crap into you and not moving your ass.
      Got 100 pounds of fat on you, rotting teeth and a dumbed down brain? Just fix it. I'll learn nothing from it and eat that shit again, and again.
      Got a broken leg? Just fix it. I'll learn nothing from it, and break it again.
      Just fix it. So I don't have to change or think. Because what world would that be?

      I really really wish, there was a large and dangerous predator, who would eat all those who weren't fit enough. Maybe a pandemic.
      We are so many people, that the individual person does not have to be able to survive anything anymore.
      Put any of those chubby losers out there, and they can't even find something to eat or live in, in a jungle!

      Now get off my tree-house! :P

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    2. Re:Nothing but good stuff here. by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1

      Yeah. Call me a troll. But I'm right anyway. And you know it.
      You also - deep inside you - know, that this moderation was not yours, but that of your neurosis that helps you ignore that very problem.

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  8. Dental genetics by mcrbids · · Score: 4, Interesting

    One thing that's often ignored is that some people have naturally "harder" teeth than others. I, unfortunately, am "blessed" with the softer variety. I put out the effort: brush vigorously, regularly, flossing daily, etc. and my teeth are just horrible, and probably a third are basically just plastic. I am one of my Dentist's best customers.

    My wife, on the other hand, simply doesn't have to spend nearly as much effort on her teeth. She brushes and all, but she has gorgeous teeth and puts in only modest effort. I see the same in our children. Some have her teeth, put out little effort and consistently have nice, white teeth and no cavities, while others have mine, and brush regularly only to have cavities every single visit.

    Finally, I can grow new teeth!?!? Oh wait, they'll be *MY* teeth? With *MY* crappy-ass tooth genes?

    (to my wife) Eh, babe? (Ahem) Mind if I have one of your wisdom teeth?

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    1. Re:Dental genetics by Arterion · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Don't brush too vigorously: you'll end up with with completely different problem of receding gums. If you don't have a really good electric toothbrush, get one. I use an Oral-B Triumph. I was totally amazed at how much I liked it. I thought it would just be a gimmick, but it's not. It's the best investment I've ever made into a gadget.

      I also find 30 seconds of Listerine after brushing helps a lot, too.

      Another thing I use daily is Johnson and Johnson Stim-U-Dent sticks. They take a little getting used to, but I really like them.

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    2. Re:Dental genetics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I also find 30 seconds of Listerine after brushing helps a lot, too."

      Listerine is the nuclear weapon of mouthwashes. It kills helpful and harmful bacteria. This can actually leave you more prone to bacterial problems. (As you have nothing helping you between cleans). You are better of using a non-alcohol mouthwash, which is more selective.

    3. Re:Dental genetics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hint to you and the guy below. Copy your wife's brushing/flossing/dentist's cleaning habits.

    4. Re:Dental genetics by sukotto · · Score: 1

      I too am blessed with soft teeth. Well, it was a blessing for my dentist anyway :-(

      I think for me the ideal would be to grow a new tooth, then have it sealed in some way to prevent cavities from forming. Even if I had to go through sealing once a year it would be worth it.

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    5. Re:Dental genetics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I second this.

      Having an electric toothbrush helped tremendously and made them a lot whiter in a healthier way. Although, this could have been down to following the 2 minute timer religiously.

    6. Re:Dental genetics by Kashgarinn · · Score: 1

      As this has segwayed a little into oral hygiene products.. can anyone tell me why there are so many different varieties of toothpaste, even from the same manufacturer? Is there any real science behind some of these, or is it just the same crap with different colours/taste?

      Would love to know more, haven't really found anything about it.

    7. Re:Dental genetics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      same crap with different colours/taste

      Pretty much. My father (grain of salt) explained it to me thusly for mouthwash: the nasty tasting stuff (listerine) is cheap so that poor people can afford it. The better tasting stuff (listermint) costs more for the middle class, and the best stuff costs the most for the rich people. Other than the flavor and price point, it's the exact same product.

      We used listerine when I was growing up, no idea what the "rich people" were supposed to be using ;P

    8. Re:Dental genetics by foo+fighter · · Score: 1

      Do you and your kids do a fluoride rinse every night? It really helped me.

      Several years ago I moved to a new dentist who discovered a pit forming that was probably going to be a cavity when I went back in 6 months. My wife (a dental hygienist at the time, she's since moved on to a job with a career path) recommended Act-brand rinse when I told her about it. It's several years and a different dentist later and while the pit is still there, it's no worse and I haven't developed any other pits or cavities.

      You can find the Act-brand fluoride rinse in all the big boxes and chain pharmacies in the US. If you get a different brand, make sure it's a fluoride rinse. Listerine, for example, doesn't have fluoride and won't help.

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    9. Re:Dental genetics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "can anyone tell me why there are so many different varieties of toothpaste, even from the same manufacturer?"

      Wal-mart. Seriously. Wal-mart has huge economic muscle to flex in the direction of producers, especially of basic, common, low-profit-high-volume items like toothpaste. One of their buying rules is that they expect a cost drop (ie. they pay less) if the product has been on their shelves for more than a year. A lot of low-margin high-value products now suffer a constant flux of irrelevant differences to work around this little rule and allow the manufacturers to actually stay in business and sell at Wal-mart.

    10. Re:Dental genetics by illumin8 · · Score: 1

      I also find 30 seconds of Listerine after brushing helps a lot, too.

      Don't use Listerine. It has alcohol in it which can cause mouth cancer, and other problems. Use an alcohol free mouthwash like Crest.

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    11. Re:Dental genetics by illumin8 · · Score: 1

      As this has segwayed a little into oral hygiene products.. can anyone tell me why there are so many different varieties of toothpaste, even from the same manufacturer? Is there any real science behind some of these, or is it just the same crap with different colours/taste?

      They are all the same. If you look at the "active ingredients", you can see they all contain some percentage (around 0.16%) flouride. There are prescription toothpastes with higher flouride content that your dentist can prescribe for you, but you usually only need it if you are trying to rebuild or strengthen your enamel.

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    12. Re:Dental genetics by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1

      Maybe you brush too much. Too much brushing grinds off the outer protective layer of your teeth. Just as wrong flossing can make you gum susceptible for infections.

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    13. Re:Dental genetics by Arterion · · Score: 1

      They are generally the same, just with different flavors and textures, with one exception. Some toothpastes have an extra ingredient. It's out old antibacterial friend triclosan. I don't usually like antibacterial soaps (reasons have been argued as nauseaum), but for toothpastes, it makes a lot of sense. I think all the major brands have a product line with triclosan in it, and I highly recommend those over the others.

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    14. Re:Dental genetics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you're saying constant change of product works to the advantage of producer in that they don't have to lower the price.

    15. Re:Dental genetics by milletre · · Score: 1

      FWIW, in my practice, when a patient comes to me with that story, it's usually some combination of poor dentistry and/or too much dentistry being performed. I've seen patients who were going to be going to the dentist a lot for the rest of their lives to replace fillings that, when you look at the pre-operative radiographs, probably never needed restorations in the first place.

      I promise you, it's not genetic.

  9. Will it fit? by hannson · · Score: 1
    Hypothetical question;

    Lets say I loose a tooth in a Wii accident, will the new one be identical?

  10. Who you gonna call? Toothgrowers. by N!NJA · · Score: 4, Insightful

    the irony is that the people who would benefit more from such advancement (the toothless poor who cant bite a beefjerk at the age of 21) will not be able to afford such treatment.

    1. Re:Who you gonna call? Toothgrowers. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the irony is that the people who would benefit more from such advancement (the toothless poor who cant bite a beefjerk at the age of 21) will not be able to afford such treatment.

      "Homeless man cannot afford cutting-edge medical treatment! News at 11!"

  11. Crown? by Samah · · Score: 4, Funny

    'Dentists say, "Give me a root and I can put a crown on it."'

    This is the same thing that a king says when looking for a potential queen.

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    1. Re:Crown? by psnyder · · Score: 1

      Now it's time to see how many moderators are from Oceania =p

    2. Re:Crown? by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 1

      Give me a root ...

      I guess that depends on your definition of "queen"....

  12. Same Here. by FatSean · · Score: 1

    I inherited disease-prone teeth from my dad, but my wife has awesome teeth and hardly ever flosses. I'm 34, I brush and floss three times a day with the precision only a nerd can provide...still, I'm just barely holding my 'gum pockets' at 3mm.

    I hope our kids get her teeth genes!

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    1. Re:Same Here. by Arterion · · Score: 1

      Have you tried 30 seconds of Listerine after every brush? It's helped my teeth tremendously. I think the alcohol kills the bacteria.

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    2. Re:Same Here. by techno-vampire · · Score: 1

      I bet you don't give them as much attention as Dr. Richard H. Thorndyke did in High Anxiety. That guy was really obsessive-compulsive about it.

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    3. Re:Same Here. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try using Listerine before you brush. The alcohol doesn't kill (much) bacteria, but it is an organic solvent and helps loosen the bacteria's physical/chemical "grip" on your teeth and gums. If you use Listerine first, you will take advantage of that solvent action while you brush, potentially removing much more. Anyway, I liked it better.

    4. Re:Same Here. by kyriosdelis · · Score: 1

      I think the alcohol kills the bacteria.

      Ahhh... Beer: The cause of, and solution to all of life's problems.

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    5. Re:Same Here. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and if it don't you don't care anymore !

  13. 5 years my arse by QuantumG · · Score: 3, Insightful

    When are journalists going to learn that it takes 10 years to get from the lab to market? And when it comes to anything medical, add another 10 years for clinical trials.

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    1. Re:5 years my arse by MagusSlurpy · · Score: 1

      Don't forget about the basic rule of scientific research - triple the amount of time you think it will take. So, when this researcher says that he'll be growing teeth in one year, he really means three. So we'll really see this on the (free) market in 20-25 years.

      Fortunately, my dentist has a drug habit to support :)

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  14. So how about people like me? by DentInYourHead · · Score: 1

    I never grew wisdom teeth. Any. Although it does say baby teeth can be used as well...and I have four of those intact still since I never grew permanents for those. But do those have to be pulled?? Nooo thanks.

    1. Re:So how about people like me? by techno-vampire · · Score: 1

      Same here, but by now, there's only one left. (Two decayed and a third suddenly crumbled on me and the remainder had to be pulled because there wasn't enough left to be worth salvaging.)

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    2. Re:So how about people like me? by trolltalk.com · · Score: 1

      I never grew wisdom teeth. Any

      Try counting. Mine came in without my even noticing, except for the last one, when I noticed that my jaw ached a bit when I yawned.

    3. Re:So how about people like me? by tweak13 · · Score: 1

      It isn't all that uncommon to not have wisdom teeth. I don't have any either. This is confirmed by x-ray, they just aren't there.

    4. Re:So how about people like me? by Explo · · Score: 1

      Just for the curiosity; do you mean that they never came out into the mouth cavity, or that there's even nothing showing up on X-ray photos? In my case all my wisdom teeth do exist, but three of them are tightly stuck within the jaw bones. The fourth has gone a bit further, but is probably never going to get through the back of my mouth either.

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    5. Re:So how about people like me? by DentInYourHead · · Score: 1

      They don't show up on X-rays. I literally never grew them and will never have wisdom teeth. My mother-in-law also apparently never grew wisdom teeth either.

  15. Damn... by pongo000 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...I'm glad that I've still got all four of my wisdom teeth! Sounds like they will be good insurance towards healthy teeth in my later years. Actually, I wonder if this biotechnology will spell the end to the "convenience" removal of wisdom teeth.

    1. Re:Damn... by collinstocks · · Score: 1

      I don't know if it is so much convenience as necessity. I might be an exceptional case, but I know that I will eventually have to have my wisdom teeth removed because they are facing the wrong direction (outward). As long as they don't grow in, there will not be an issue, but once they start (if they ever do), they could damage nerves in my mouth. Right now, though, I'm waiting for my jaw to stop growing.

      Again, this might be an exceptional case, unlike others where wisdom teeth are removed. However, I have a friend with the same problem, so maybe this is not so unusual.

    2. Re:Damn... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...I'm glad that I've still got all four of my wisdom teeth! Sounds like they will be good insurance towards healthy teeth in my later years. Actually, I wonder if this biotechnology will spell the end to the "convenience" removal of wisdom teeth.

      There's nothing convenient about an impacted wisdom tooth. They aren't removed for "convenience" in any sense of the word.

    3. Re:Damn... by Fjandr · · Score: 1

      In many cases the removal of wisdom teeth is absolute necessity. There are many people born whose jaws simply are not large enough to accomodate the addition of wisdom teeth without serious dental problems. Add to that the number of people who have wisdom teeth growing in impacted, and there's a good reason why their removal is fairly standard.

      I wouldn't have had mine removed, but unfortunately my jaw is both too small and the lower ones were impacted. Nothing like having 4 teeth extracted prior to eruption and finding out afterward that hydrocodone doesn't bind in you the way it should, hence providing zero pain relief. That was fun.

    4. Re:Damn... by Amazing+Quantum+Man · · Score: 1

      To echo the other replies...

      I had no room for my wisdom teeth -- first time someone told me I *didn't* have a big mouth -- and they came in horribly impacted, and even fused to the bone. It was not a "convenience" removal.

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    5. Re:Damn... by FluffyArmada · · Score: 1

      My understanding is that humans have these "extra" wisdom teeth now because of our softer, easier-to-chew diets. A long time ago, when we would have to eat more interesting things, the teeth would naturally wear down enough that there would be plenty of space for the wisdom teeth, but now, when they try to come in, they don't have enough room, and it is not uncommon for them to grow at an unpleasant angle and actually impact themselves into the surrounding teeth- or worse, the jaw bone behind them. That is my very basic understanding from the oral surgeon who removed mine a few months ago. It was completely painless (unless you're extremely bothered by the insertion of a small IV). Basically, if you don't run into problems from the wisdom teeth embedding themselves into other parts of your mouth, most of your issues will come from cavities, infections, etc due to their location in the far back of the mouth, where they are hard to access to brush and clean properly. Luckily, if you have them removed relatively early in life, you will usually have very little to no complications, due to the fact that the roots of the wisdom teeth usually take a while to actually connect to the nerve in the tissue surrounding your jaw bone. When this happens is usually different depending on who you are, but I'm guessing it usually happens in the late teenage years to the early 20s. Anywho, my $.02 is this: talk to your dentist and if he says you should have them removed, DO IT, because the longer you wait, the worst it will be. If you do it early on, like I was lucky enough to, it is nothing at all. Hell, I even got to take codeine and eat nothing but cottage cheese for two days.

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    6. Re:Damn... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To provide some contrast. I have no wisdom teeth, never did, never will.

      I don't have a lot of dental problems either. Have rarely ever had cavities, and only minor ones then.

      I still have one my baby teeth too. The second tooth from my k9 going backward on the right side. Never had a full tooth there, and apparently never will. Oddly, half the baby tooth fell out, so only the facing side is still there. It's like a little blade now with a gap behind it on the tongue side. Very handy with sunflower seeds.

    7. Re:Damn... by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 1

      But then, a small mouth will provide you a good excuse to escape some cumbersome bed-time tasks...

  16. Hooray by Arancaytar · · Score: 1

    My teeth are crap.

    I'm combining a weak enamel with deep crevices, a tendency to eat wrong and brush too rarely or too superficially, and apparently I gnash my teeth while asleep.

    This degree of regeneration would be worth a great lot to me...

    1. Re:Hooray by AsnFkr · · Score: 1

      I gnash my teeth while asleep.

      Seriously go get an occlusal guard. I went for a long time without one due to not having insurance/not having spare cash, and now due to the grinding I have a tooth that was fractured above the gumline that became infected. They had to slice a flap in my gums to get to the damaged region, then because the damage was so progressed it required a root canal which was the worst experience of my life due to the tooth being "hot" (read: It was numbed properly but I could still feel all the work being done). All this even after I meticulously care for my teeth on a twice-a-day regiment. It's frustrating.

  17. If you use stem cells from an aborted fetus... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... do you get baby teeth?

    You could also tell people you are just like the aborted fetus used to create your teeth, you weren't born yesterday.

  18. Re:A quarter? by conureman · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I got a dime. Kids.

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  19. At a quarter a pop... by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 1

    the tooth fairy cuold really clean up with a nice profit margin.

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    1. Re:At a quarter a pop... by shaitand · · Score: 1

      A quarter? I got a buck a tooth and felt I was shafted because most friends netted at least $5.

  20. Re:Stem cell research is starting to look good by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 1

    Stem cells need not be gotten from aborted babies but from adult cells like wisdom teeth, brilliant!

    FYI, the only fetal stem cells that have ever been considered for R&D or treatment purposes have been those of embryos created for in-vitro fertilization purposes that would have otherwise been destroyed anyway because the host mother got pregnant with one of the other embryos.

    It seems to me that most of those opposed to fetal stem cell research would be thrown for a loop if they realized that the very same potential babies are being sacrificed in order to create one baby for a barren couple. Why is it 'OK' to aborted those babies just because they were second in line for implantation?

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  21. Knew it by SpitfireSMS · · Score: 1

    "Plus, if you still have your wisdom teeth, it's nice to know you're walking around with your own source of stem cells."

    I knew I was keeping those for a reason

  22. Where's my GM Strep Mutans? by Dun+Malg · · Score: 5, Informative

    Screw growing back teeth, I want to know when we can have the genetically modified Streptococcus Mutans. Like 5 years ago, researchers announced they'd developed a strain of s.mutans (the bacteria responsible for most tooth decay) that doesn't excrete lactic acid. Once subjects' mouths were inoculated, the modified s.mutans completely took over, pushing the damaging strain out. Once inoculated you're theoretically 99% cavity free for the rest of your life. Is the ADA lobbying to keep it off the market because fillings and such are such a big money maker? Wouldn't surprise me.

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    1. Re:Where's my GM Strep Mutans? by moteyalpha · · Score: 1

      Sounds like a good idea, but I think nature plays hard ball and if you have a bacteria where there is a potential food source they will evolve back to eat it. That is just my guess from putting bacteria on on mixed media and when the good stuff runs out, the ones that eat the regular food die and the mutants that eat the other stuff thrive. Just a guess though. I personally would rather have sharks teeth that regrow every few months.

    2. Re:Where's my GM Strep Mutans? by Plantain · · Score: 5, Informative

      Where are they? In the final stages of FDA clinical trials.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caries_vaccine

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    3. Re:Where's my GM Strep Mutans? by qw0ntum · · Score: 1

      I have a feeling that putting GM bacteria in people's mouths probably requires at least 5 years to get from research announcement to FDA approval.

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    4. Re:Where's my GM Strep Mutans? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bacteria evolve very quickly. That wouldn't work forever. It would probably stop working within a year, if not a few weeks.

    5. Re:Where's my GM Strep Mutans? by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      The new bacteria might eat the same food and metabolize it a different way.

    6. Re:Where's my GM Strep Mutans? by John+Hasler · · Score: 4, Informative

      > Is the ADA lobbying to keep it off the market because fillings and such are such a big
      > money maker?

      You mean the way they lobbied to block flouridation and flouride treatments?

      (Hint for the dense: they didn't. Quite the contrary.)

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    7. Re:Where's my GM Strep Mutans? by k-macjapan · · Score: 1

      I personally would rather have sharks teeth that regrow every few months.

      Puts an entire new twist on old adage 'Just don't bite it'...

    8. Re:Where's my GM Strep Mutans? by Spatial · · Score: 1

      Oh wow. I knew I was born in the right time period.

    9. Re:Where's my GM Strep Mutans? by meatmanek · · Score: 1

      For those who are too lazy to google:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caries_vaccine

    10. Re:Where's my GM Strep Mutans? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you misunderstood. These bacteria don't eat teeth. They eat sugar and shit acid, which damages teeth. The mutant ones still eat sugar, but don't shit acid.

    11. Re:Where's my GM Strep Mutans? by moteyalpha · · Score: 1

      I was not aware of the mod, however I personally think that any changes to the normal flora should wait until they have mapped the associations of all the organisms. They shit acid for a reason and most likely to kill the competition. If you remove an indigenous species from a niche it gets replaced with something worse usually. It is suggested that fire ants are helped to get a foothold by the fact that we kill the native ants. I still want my monkey man and some sharks teeth like in the book Einstein Intersection.Maybe the acid could be made worse so it would be like Alien, that would be a cool mod.

    12. Re:Where's my GM Strep Mutans? by Ceriel+Nosforit · · Score: 1

      Similarly, one could kill S.Sanguis using bacteriophage which can be administered as a mouth spray, but no such spray is on the market.

      A patent exist for this. Bought up by a large toothpaste manufacturer, perhaps?

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    13. Re:Where's my GM Strep Mutans? by cnettel · · Score: 1

      It seems like a proper evolutionary boon to slowly kill off teeth, since that will give you access to all the body and doesn't really hurt your chances of propagating to other people. Give me this modified strain!

    14. Re:Where's my GM Strep Mutans? by zeoslap · · Score: 1

      These guys are supposedly just about ready to bring it to market http://probiora3.com/

    15. Re:Where's my GM Strep Mutans? by cynical+kane · · Score: 2, Funny

      That's because their ultimate goal is not money but our precious bodily fluids.

    16. Re:Where's my GM Strep Mutans? by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 1

      You know what else will kill them? Jack Daniels.

      It's hard to beat alcohol as a bacteria killer. A little listerine does the job as well as anything else.

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    17. Re:Where's my GM Strep Mutans? by moteyalpha · · Score: 1

      It adds another complication to my GATTACA dating , now I have to have their SNP scan and a list of their flora to see if we are compatible. I like hydrogen people as opposed to methane people.

    18. Re:Where's my GM Strep Mutans? by shaitand · · Score: 1

      Why would they evolve away the trait any faster than the current bacteria do? Producing a lactic acid byproduct neither helps nor hinders the bacteria from an evolutionary standpoint. The current strain has been producing lactic acid for hundreds if not thousands of years.

    19. Re:Where's my GM Strep Mutans? by shaitand · · Score: 1

      Most evidence suggests that prolonged contact is required for fluoride to strengthen enamel. That is why the dentist leaves the fluoride on for awhile when he does the treatment. Water fluoridation does not allow the fluoride to contact the teeth long enough to provide any help and since there is evidence fluoride may be a mutagen it could in fact be responsible for health problems.

      In other words, dentists make money on fluoride treatments and water fluoridation doesn't hurt their pocket books one bit.

    20. Re:Where's my GM Strep Mutans? by milletre · · Score: 1

      As a dentist, you expect me to say thatt your conspiracy theories are bunk; they are.

      However, even logically speaking, there's lots that dentists do that isn't simply "drill out decay, fill with something, collect MONEY."

      All manner of hygine/periodontal procedures would be unaffected by this inoculation. People still want teeth moved around, want them a different shape, color. Existing dentist have enough crap in peoples' mouths to replace their entire working lives.

      Read any dental literature; the most excitement is reserved for procedures that have nothing to do with caries control: implants, new ceramics for crowns/veneers, new bleach techniques, etc.

      So, please, no more ADA conspiracy theories; no matter what's out there in terms of prevention, there is a huge gap between what people could do for themselves to prevent decay and how they decide to abuse their bodies.

    21. Re:Where's my GM Strep Mutans? by milletre · · Score: 1

      Bacteria evolve very quickly. That wouldn't work forever. It would probably stop working within a year, if not a few weeks.

      That presupposes the bacteria are alive to reproduce and evolve. If they are not on the teeth, they are not evolving.

  23. A cuter title would've been, by psnyder · · Score: 1

    Tooth Regeneration Coming Thoon

  24. A dime?! Luxury! by Arthur+Grumbine · · Score: 4, Funny

    Back in my day when we lost our teeth we had to pay the tooth fairy $100 for each tooth we lost. She said the $100 was for "protection" - from tooth decay we assumed...of course we learned the awful truth when little Johnny refused to pay, and that crazy bitch knocked out the rest of his teeth with a baseball bat.

    A dime?! That we could have been so lucky!

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    1. Re:A dime?! Luxury! by wisty · · Score: 1

      The Jaws of Life? Oh; La-di-da! When I was a lad, the tooth fairy yanked out our teeth with a shifting spanner, cut off our legs, and took both our kidneys for transplants. Then when we came home to the used condom we had to live in, our father would beat us with sleep with a red-hot poker.

    2. Re:A dime?! Luxury! by ricosalomar · · Score: 1

      An' ya tell tha kids o' today that... an' they won't believa ya.

  25. Ultrasound by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Whatever happened to the ultrasound regeneration thing I heard about two years ago? http://www.canada.com/edmontonjournal/news/story.html?id=305b49c4-e413-4bf8-a2de-4fabbc165581&k=70530 Too good to be true?

  26. Better is "Researchers almost catch-up to Germain" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you read about Count Saint Germain, then you'll know that he was around from the most inspired years of Deutchland and the surrounding areas from the years 1200 to present. His longevity was known only to his students, but that was not conferred to them. Supposedly among his many talents, was re-growing all the teeth using what the students dubbed "his master's white drops." Apparently, when a certain elixir was drunk, then within the day all your teeth fell out and then new ones regrew in the same places within 1 Year. Now, let's reason that if this was a hoax and the witnesses to this were idiots or gullible scientists, then perhaps it could have been a kind of 1-time wash that stopped all the bacteria from corroding the enamel and caused each tooth add new layers of calcium at such a rate that it appeared the old teeth dropped out and new ones took their place. But then again, all the scripture points that the physical tooth would simply fall out and a new one would come in its place. I have experienced to witness of this before over in the California city of Anaheim.

    A friend in a glass-shoppe had verry small teeth; not large incisors, and somewhat delicate molars. Every month one of them would develop a wiggle and fall-out. Within maybe 3 more months a new one would poke through the gum. In all, maybe he would lose and regrew maybe 4 teeth a year: all baby teeth. Adult teeth never would grow, just an endless stream of baby teeth. His smile was perfect and nothing was out of order other than they appeared slightly small if you looked too hard.

    Count Saint Germain wasn't far off from this, if ever there was an elixir that he made to entice this to happen.

  27. Re:Stem cell research is starting to look good by Arthur+Grumbine · · Score: 1

    I've got news for you. Most of us do know and are trying to save as many lives as possible. No one I've met - who believes that life should be protected after conception - believes that it's "OK" to destroy the unused IVF fetuses. Of course, I seriously doubt this information will have any effect upon your fantastically ingrained bias against "us people". You can make up whatever other "reasons" suit you...

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  28. Ultrasound can regrow teeth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why not just regrow the tooth as the Canda researchers patented in 2006m care of Nature News:
    "A group of researchers at the University of Alberta in Edmonton have filed a patent for a low-intensity pulsed ultrasound tool that can re-grow teeth and bones

  29. Stem-Cell research is a fraud. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The news solicits the public for opinion to research in the favor of the public, yet the legislation is written to embrace the profit of pharmaceutical companies and general commerce of whomever uses it as complement to whichever other experimentation they required for unrelated classified work that the public may not approve for its moral soundness.

    Seeing that you take the high road in terms of legislation, you should consider the nature of the artificial persons of the State that need ask permission to do that which is favorable to the public. Those corporations need permission to do good because it was never in their character and charter to do good; It's a subconcious money-making entity that is foreign to the people and I don't mean a complementary relationship between a fungus and plant roots, more like cows grazing grass faster than the grass can grow.

  30. Re:Stem cell research is starting to look good by PhrostyMcByte · · Score: 2, Insightful

    An embryo is not a fetus. But you can make up whatever "definitions" suit you...

  31. It's about time by symbolic · · Score: 4, Interesting

    One thing that has always puzzled me is that despite all the advances in technology, getting a crown is still VERY expensive. There has been no appreciable reduction in cost due to better manufacturing techniques, or better/cheaper materials. Compare this to say, lasik - when it was first introduced it cost about 4K per eye I think. Now it's a few hundred.

    1. Re:It's about time by detritus` · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately the crowns you have gotten probably cost the same for the actual prep, but lab costs have gone way up. The majority of crowns have a large portion of and/or are completely gold. Look at the cost of gold in the last couple years and you'll see why lab costs have gone way way up.

    2. Re:It's about time by ThrowAwaySociety · · Score: 2, Informative

      One thing that has always puzzled me is that despite all the advances in technology, getting a crown is still VERY expensive. There has been no appreciable reduction in cost due to better manufacturing techniques, or better/cheaper materials.

      My dad is a dental lab technician (the guys who make crowns) and to hear him tell it, there have essentially been no advances in technology or manufacturing techniques. Yes, the materials are better and the process is apparently more streamlined, with better models to work from, but they are still mostly custom made, by hand. (When was the last time you had something custom tailored?) And the labor force that does this is apparently aging and not growing as fast as demand.

      (This is my understanding based on what he's relayed to me. Any errors or misrepresentations are most likely mine, not his.)

    3. Re:It's about time by Rastan_B2 · · Score: 1

      Is it really that cheap in the US? Here in AU its still around $4K per eye I believe...

    4. Re:It's about time by dargaud · · Score: 1

      ...getting a crown is still VERY expensive

      Case in point: my dentist, who is quite wealthy, was recently disgusted at his new associate. The old one having retired, he got a new one right out of school. The new one raised the prices by a big margin and bought a Porsche Cayenne after just a few weeks of work. In protest, he bought one of the cheapest car in existence and parks next to the Porsche on the dental clinic's lot.

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    5. Re:It's about time by smoker2 · · Score: 1

      Aaah Lasik.

      I was listening to a radio program (BBC Radio 4) where they were discussing laser eye surgery, and some very interesting things came out. The main one being, if you have it done, that's it - you cannot reverse it. Sounds fine until you realise that your eye naturally changes with age, and so as you get older, your short sightedness changes to long sightedness as the eye muscles weaken. But you already had the surgery to improve your long distance vision so to bring the focus closer again, you must operate again. While it is possible to correct for far sightedness (ALK), there is only so much modification of the cornea that can be done (they remove tissue from the cornea) and you already reduced the material available when you corrected the original myopia. So if you have had laser surgery correction, you will end up using glasses anyway, and they will have to be more powerful than the ones you would have needed had you not had the surgery.
      I'm in my early 40s and my eyesight is starting to change for the worse already, especially close up. I have never had any surgery or worn glasses. It seems a big risk and a waste of money to get your eyes fixed, when it could potentially only last a few years before you're back to glasses again.
      Read all about it.

    6. Re:It's about time by BobisOnlyBob · · Score: 1

      I've been wearing glasses since I was three years old - I don't care about the risks. I don't care if I have to wear glasses for the rest of my life after those five years are up. Five years without glasses would be the best five years of my life.

    7. Re:It's about time by dwye · · Score: 1

      So if you have had laser surgery correction, you will end up using glasses anyway, and they will have to be more powerful than the ones you would have needed had you not had the surgery.

      No, they will not, because you are starting from 20/20 or better (my mother is 20/15 in her best eye, after cataract surgery that included what Lasik does), and presbyopathy doesn't "correct" nearsightedness that much, in reality. Of course, if your eyes are good enough, your prediction would be true, but people like that don't need, or barely need, glasses, anyway. Those of us in the coke-bottle-thick range of correction don't care about them. They can avoid the surgery all that they want, while the ex-nearsighted Lasik-corrected-to-20/10 fighter pilots do barrel rolls above their heads.

    8. Re:It's about time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The cost has not decreased because a dentist is half-doctor and half-artist. The medical part of a crown is pretty common, but as anybody who has ever gotten a crown can tell you, they take the mold, cast it, glue it on and then do the final sculpting. Think of it as $500 for a custom piece of art installed in your mouth.

    9. Re:It's about time by 9re9 · · Score: 1

      That's about to change. See this product, for example. It does crowns and veneers the same day. Ultimately, it will likely drive costs down.

    10. Re:It's about time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, I had a crown done in 1999 for $1200 and another last month for about $700 (both are molars, so the same size etc). Considering that the dollar is worth about half of what it was back then, this means the new crown cost me just about a third of the price of the old one.

      LASIK cost me about $2500 per eye a year ago. I would never pick one of those "Uncle Bob's drive-through LASIK and burgers" deals, and went with a real eye surgeon. It's my eyesight we're talking about.

    11. Re:It's about time by shaitand · · Score: 1

      Sort of a myth. The myth part is where they can correct the far sightedness. Far sightedness due to aging is caused by weakening of the eye muscles, this causes an inability to refocus the eye properly. Lasik fixes the cornea and the cornea is not the problem in this instance. If you are young and far sighted then a lasik adjustment can fix the problem.

      If you are far sighted due to being older then the best they can do with lasik is permanently adjust one eye to see well close and leave the other well enough to see far away (or fix it if you have a near sighted cornea). Supposedly the two will compensate for each other but in practice you will still be holding boxes at arms length to read the directions, will need to pop a lens out of reading glasses to read a book, and will need prescription lenses to drive long distance. This is because whether you are looking close or far, one eye is doing all the work without the glasses and it causes strain.

      Early to mid 40's is typical to have your eye muscles begin to wear out. People who are near-sighted can avoid the reading glasses longer not because their eye muscles last longer but because their eyes are already out of focus the other direction and the two problems correct each other to a certain extent. That 'advantage' is the only thing you are giving up by having lasik. If you hadn't had the lasik then sooner or later you wouldn't be able to see close-up OR far away.

    12. Re:It's about time by shaitand · · Score: 1

      Read my reply to the parent.

      Whether you are near-sighted or far-sighted, Lasik will correct your lens problem. As you age you don't actually become far-sighted at all, your eye muscles weaken and lose the ability to refocus. If you are near-sighted your eyes are off-focus and the two problems might delay your need to get reading glasses.

      If you have lasik to correct your vision problem you will need reading glasses in your 40's just like everyone who had perfect vision in the first place.

      My biggest suggestion is to make sure that whoever does your lasik is using the latest equipment. They should be using custom cornea and be using a laser that accounts for eye movements faster than the eye can move. They also should be using a laser and not a blade to cut the corneal flap, almost all lasik complications arise from the use of a mechanical blade to cut the flap.

      It isn't really painful, if you've been somewhere dusty enough to irritate your eyes then you've felt as bad. But the clinics tell you that you will experience perfect vision as early as the next day. That is true but the vision is fleeting, your eyes will be clogged with drops, drops and more drops, and you will be practically blinded if you are near anything as bright as a street lamp. Don't makes plans that require you to drive or work for a solid week after the surgery.

    13. Re:It's about time by shaitand · · Score: 1

      Actually you have that backwards. Age causes problems focusing on things near you, that is farsightedness, not nearsightedness.

      People with perfect vision will need reading glasses sooner than they would if they were otherwise nearsighted. The nearsightedness counteracts the 'farsightedness' caused by aging (in quotes because actual farsightedness improves focus on things far away, aging just deteriorates vision closeup).

      If you are nearsighted then having Lasik will cause you to need reading glasses sooner, but not any sooner than you would have needed them if you had perfect vision in the first place.

      The parent also misspoke. Farsightedness can be corrected with lasik, but old age can not. Old age doesn't make your lens go out of focus, it makes your eye muscles lose the ability to refocus. The best they can do is adjust one eye permanently to focus near, and fix any nearsightedness in the other. You will still continue to age, your eye muscles will continue to degenerate until those adjustments are no longer good enough. And prolonged focus either close or far will cause strain so that you still need glasses to read a book or drive long distance.

    14. Re:It's about time by shaitand · · Score: 1

      I can confirm the lasik price, mine was about the same and that was with the top lasik surgeon in the country.

      You can't always go by price though. Uncle bob's drive through lasik can charge a high price just as easily as anyone else.

  32. painful root canals? by Trepidity · · Score: 1

    Maybe I got lucky or something, but my root canal (in a back molar with about 4 canals) didn't hurt at all. It hurt before because of the infection, but a bunch of ibuprofen plus local anaesthetic seemed to do the trick during, and it didn't really hurt at all afterwards (just somewhat sore, but not enough for me to need any painkillers).

  33. Re:Stem cell research is starting to look good by Hatta · · Score: 1

    When did Jesus ever say that using aborted fetuses is bad in the first place?

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  34. Re: Luuxury! by conureman · · Score: 2, Funny

    I always read that with a Yorkshire accent.

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  35. If this is true... by an00bis · · Score: 1

    ...I'm going to track down that Army dentist who pulled my wisdom teeth for no good reason and punch him right in the mouth.

    1. Re:If this is true... by Spatial · · Score: 3, Funny

      Careful now. Punching a dentist class in the mouth is a bad move. An enraged dentist can heal a mouth injury in mere seconds. In response they may trick you with their mirrors, and if they roll a critical during this time you'll be drilled asunder!

    2. Re:If this is true... by an00bis · · Score: 1

      I've played Bioshock, I know how to handle crazy dentists -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIGP49keQdc

  36. I feel with you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm so with you there. I have naturally strong teeth, or so my dentist tells me, but my parents were lax on dental hygiene because 'when they were kids it never mattered to them' or something. The resulting mess has cost me a lot of treatments. After moving out I have picked up the slack and my dentist says I should be for the most part okay now, but there may still be a couple of weak spots and some previously treated molars have been playing up. I'd love to be able to start with a clean plate, if only to see if good dental hygiene really could have prevented all that.

  37. Re:Stem cell research is starting to look good by plnix0 · · Score: 0, Troll
    Speaking of making up definitions... nice signature.

    Point of fact, the difference between embryo and fetus is purely subjective.

    From WordNet (r) 2.0 [wn]: fetus n : an unborn or unhatched vertebrate in the later stages of development showing the main recognizable features of the mature animal [syn: {foetus}]

    (emphasis added)

    From a moral standpoint, a fetus is equivalent to an embryo. Then again, so are you.

  38. No wisdom teeth? by babymac · · Score: 1

    I don't have any wisdom teeth, you insensitive clod!

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  39. I'm only missing one and and a half at 34... by Colourspace · · Score: 1

    ... but think of the children. I need to chew! Teeth FTW in 2016!

  40. Second set of wisdom teeth by compwizrd · · Score: 1

    I had 4 wisdom teeth taken out when I was 17.

    Luckily for me, two more grew in almost 10 years later...

  41. When he or she removes the denchers, it's called by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's called "The Olympian." Only certain hookers can perform it, and the cost is extra. I wouldn't trust it though, but make sure the toothless chick that does it has a history of fist-fights because anything else would mean gingivitis or worse. A usual BJ is 30, intercourse is 200. The Olympian usually goes for 50 to 70. I think it's overrated though. Who'd want The Olympian from a brauny Meth-head or a buzzcut neonazi girl? I'll tell you who... Me! I'ld even pay 300 if she put the denchers in her vagina while I pounder her ass and let her gnaw on my hand.

  42. Re:Stem cell research is starting to look good by tbird81 · · Score: 1
    Actually, you're not saving any lives. Fewer lives than if you collected all the unused sperm from Slashdotters.

    You see, each collection of cells in these embryos is just that. A bunch of cells - albeit stem cells. They are not alive and are not a person. They have no feelings.

  43. Onion Headline..... by IHC+Navistar · · Score: 1

    "Tooth Regeneration Coming Soon - Millions of Rednecks Rejoice!"

    --
    Knowing Google's lust for data collection, the Soviet Union is still alive and well inside the psyche of Sergey Brin....
  44. Re:Stem cell research is starting to look good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Matthew 19:14; Jesus said, "Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these."
    Of course, that's tough to do when you've killed them by aborting them...

    And:
    Isaiah 44:24; "This is what the LORD says-your redeemer, who formed you in the womb; I am the LORD who has made all things, who alone stretched out the heavens, who spread out the earth by myself...

    Jeremiah 1:5; "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart;

  45. Re:Stem cell research is starting to look good by Arthur+Grumbine · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I do apologize. You see, for me the differences between those terms are as important to me (while discussing the value of the individual life) as infant and toddler, or child and preteen, or adolescent and young adult.

    When I'm trying to convince someone that saving a life is important, I forget about how much some people care about keeping perfect distinctions between adjacent stages of human development. I will try to avoid this from now.

    --
    Now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure everything I just said is completely wrong.
  46. Re:Stem cell research is starting to look good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is that how you rationalized your abortion...I am so, so sorry...

  47. Re:Not so. It happens more than you'ld think by jcr · · Score: 3, Funny

    Was this posted by a python script that generates paranoid fantasies?

    -jcr

    --
    The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
  48. Question: Can I regrow custom-designed teeth? by 2Bits · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The question is, can I regrow custom-designed teeth? What if I don't like my teeth in the first place? I don't want to regrow the same set of teeth again.

    I was born with a severe lack of calcium. By the age of 3, I still didn't have any tooth. Not that it didn't grow, but the teeth were just like powder. When I ate, the teeth that just appeared in the morning were smashed by any food and swallowed along.

    After taking a lot of calcium supplement (still do on a daily basis), eventually, they grew. the shape are fine, but they are grey. They are weak, cavities and rotten root canal are nasty problems. And that causes all kinds of gum problems, even with daily Listerine or salty water mouth wash.

    Since high school, I always have to work extra to make that extra 5000 to 6000 more than others, every year, to take care of the teeth. Not to mention that it had been an obstacle to self-confidence for so many years.

    Now, if can regrow my teeth, I certainly don't want to regrow the same set. Can I custom-design mine?

  49. Journalists & stem cell magic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Stem cells" are magic words to journalists. Listen, all the cells have the same DNA. There isn't all that much difference so waiting 10 years
    should remove any difference -- pick any cell, you shouldn't need "stem cells".

    1. Re:Journalists & stem cell magic by QuantumG · · Score: 1

      Specialization is a mystery that hasn't been cracked yet.. so stem cells are "magic".. in that they do impressive feats that we don't understand.

      --
      How we know is more important than what we know.
    2. Re:Journalists & stem cell magic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, no, they don't. The older you are, the less true that becomes as a greater and greater portion of your cells are 'aged' which is another way of saying they carry damaged DNA... damage that is not uniform and therefore they are carrying varied DNA. Also, while the first set all started off carrying a copy of your DNA, as cells become specialized they have portions of the DNA switched on and off.

      Replicating a cheek swab won't grow teeth, sorry.

  50. Potential research funding... by edsyc · · Score: 1

    The National Hockey League and the state of West Virginia.

  51. Still have mine too. Anchors for the future. by Nick+Driver · · Score: 1

    I still have all four of my wisdom teeth too. Fortunately they came in straight and strong and I have had zero problems with them. When they were coming in, my dentist said if they come in alright that it will be good to leave them alone because if I ever have any problems later in life with my the rest of my molars that result in their complete loss, then those 3rd molars might come in handy as anchors for bridges. I'm almost 40 yrs old now and I've already had to have some 1st and 2nd molar filings and a crown put on one of my bicuspids after I broke it in an accident, so now I'm very glad I never had my wisdom teeth removed.

  52. 50 years + ~$35,000 to Redneck by fuego451 · · Score: 1

    I suffered from chronic gum disease and cavity prone teeth almost all of my first fifty years, spent thousands for just about every dental procedure you can imagine and was told over and over, "We can save your teeth".

    I finally got tired of the constant pain and infection and had all but a couple of teeth removed. I have a full upper denture and a couple of teeth on the lower jaw to hold a partial in place. Best dental work I ever had done.

  53. give me hair! by binaryseraph · · Score: 0

    forget tooth regeneration, I want my hair back. I can deal with dental implants- hell, i'll use the teeth of dead people if I have to... Just get rid of my bald spot!

    Ok, the tooth regeneration thing is kinda cool, I will admit.

  54. Not in our lifetime by NicknamesAreStupid · · Score: 2, Informative

    There is more to growing a tooth than stem cells. You can't just plant teeth like seeds in dirt. It has to attach to the right blood supply and the right nerve. Teeth do not sit in bone; so you can implant them like titanium screws. They need a periodontal ligament which supports the tooth in the bone and allows it to flex. The ligament has to attach to the bone as well as the tooth. That is one reason they cannot transplant teeth or even move your own wisdom teeth to the first or second molar position in your mouth.

    It will happen, but it will take a lot longer than any researcher is willing to concede.

    1. Re:Not in our lifetime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sure they know that, MR. Typical-slashdot-know-it-all-guy.

  55. Re:Stem cell research is starting to look good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    good point. i'd say that killing anyone below the age of 5 (age of sentience) if perfectly acceptable in my book. we should enlarge our laws to "abort" toddlers as well. they are non sentient animals after all.

  56. Re:Stem cell research is starting to look good by Sinbios · · Score: 1

    Wouldn't /not/ aborting them be hindering their trip to heaven?

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    Anyone can "stand up for what they believe", but it takes a very brave individual to change what they believe. - Loundry
  57. Organ Ghouls by argee · · Score: 1

    Used to be the ghouls would cruise around, mug some guy and take his kidney ... or more. Now, they will just do a tooth extraction for stem cells!

  58. You posted a Psy-Op. Here's info on HIV immunity. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I find it laughable that Slashdot would tolerate posters moderating their own comments positive. Isn't there a rule that the same IP may not participate in a dispute while moderating the discussion for leverage in opinion? That wiley "Funny" post was moderated-up using an obvious QBASIC script, no-doubt compiled in Windows Vista. Wait -- wait, I don't need to hear evidence that it was "Funny", I just need bias to know that I should laugh.I am laughing at you, Anonymous Coward. I am laughing at you because I am providing evidence as follows*

    Google Cache delivers a New York Times article, in your face ... http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:3NHs2ALaBWQJ:query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html%3Fsec%3Dhealth%26res%3D9801E1D9123FF930A35751C0A9669C8B63+Sudan+HIV+immune+hookers&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us

    Killtown's "Was AIDS engineered" article, in your face summary that AIDS is synthetic breakdown of Immune System... http://killtown.911review.org/aids.html

    Finalcall.com's "AIDS is man-made" and Dr. Boyd Graves... http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/printer_1597.shtml

    SM: When you say affinity to people of color, how is it directed?

    BG: What the science and medical evidence concludes is that the HIV enzyme seeks out a receptor site in the blood of the Black genome. The receptor site is the CCR5 Delta 32+ (positive) gene that all people of color have. In the same sense, on the other end of the spectrum, is the 15 percent Caucasian population of the world, which is CCR5 Delta 32-(negative) gene. That means that under no circumstances, whether HIV came through the air, intravenous drug usage or any form of the sexual activity, would the virus be transferable in this sector of the world's population, which is basically of northern European descent.

    It is speculated by some experts that, in a worse case scenario, 85 percent of the world's population could potentially perish under these designer viruses and designer synthetic biological agents. What we're looking at here--because of this identified gene of the Black genome, this CCR5 Delta32+ (positive)--we are potentially looking at the eradication of all people of color.

    SM: Your statement reminds me of the year 1932, when Mr. Prescott Bush, the grandfather of the current president, convened the first international eugenics conference here in America. I understand this year was significant for other reasons. Could you explain?

    BG: Many of us are aware that the Tuskegee experiment, where Black sharecroppers were injected intentionally with syphilis for the purposes of infiltrating syphilis into the Black genome. Some 60 years later, we could then say that Black people are scurrilous; syphilis runs rampant throughout Black people and, therefore, they are someone to be placed in a secondary capacity. That is particularly in line with the eugenics program where White births are encouraged and Black births are discouraged.

    In 1932, the infectious agent of HIV was first tested on sheep in Iceland. That agent is called Visna. In 1932, in conjunction with the Tuskegee syphilis program, they were testing the infectious agent of HIV on an island nation. We have Visna as 30 percent of the sequences of the HIV here today. So, 1932 not only is significant for the start of a push for eugenics, i.e. a White birth order, but also the start of the testing of the infectious agent of HIV in AIDS.

  59. Stem Cells are everywhere NOT just in fetuses by zymano · · Score: 1

    Also in fat cells & cord blood.

  60. Re:Stem cell research is starting to look good by Doug+Neal · · Score: 1

    Exactly. He was in fact explicitly supporting embryonic stem-cell research, it's just been translated badly. "Little children" should have been "embryos", and everyone knows that the "kingdom of heaven" was actually Jesus's stem-cell research lab.

  61. Re:Not so. It happens more than you'ld think by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually, it was just a regular python:

    A friend of mine back in Anaheim, California would regrow a mouthful of teeth every 2.5 to 3 years.

  62. Re:When he or she removes the denchers, it's calle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We really need a -1 Disturbing.

  63. This tech been around a while...... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As my teeth lack enamel, most of them are now crowns. Due to a infection I now require these crowns (my front top teeth canine to canine) to be removed so this tech can't come quick enough!

    Teeth regrown in mice, in humans "within a decade": 2000
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/896134.stm

    Toothpaste that fixes cavities: 2005
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1484271/Toothpaste-that-fixes-cavities-as-they-appear.html

    Regrow dentine: 2008
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1584014/Dental-fillings-could-become-a-thing-of-the-past.html

    http://www.odontis.co.uk/ was set up a while ago as a commercial venture, they seem to be leading in this area.

  64. On behalf of the UK by Saint+Gerbil · · Score: 1

    this is the best thing I've heard in quite a while.

  65. Re: Luuxury! by fiddley · · Score: 1

    Dude! How many times have you read it?

    --
    If medicine were ever perfected, we'd all be the same.
  66. Somewhere in Alabama... by daskrabs · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...a man known as Willie "One-Tooth" Johnson just shed a single tear of joy.

  67. How Is This Good News? by bc90021 · · Score: 1

    For those of us with "soft" teeth (and you know who you are), this is a REALLY *bad* development! I don't want to re-grow my teeth. In fact, I want to get rid of the originals! I would REALLY like to see advances in implant technology, and a reduction in price. I'd like to have all my teeth replaced. I've already had seven root canals, at least two crowns (with six more on the way) - why can't I just get them all replaced?

    (As an aside, most dentists seem to want to "save" teeth. I can't see any reason for this. Furthermore, implants are expensive - to have my 28 teeth replaced at $4k/tooth would cost $112,000. If I had the money I would do it.)

    1. Re:How Is This Good News? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Go abroad and get them done.

      Look at places like Poland - most of the reputable ones (ie trained by ADA) charge approx half.

      For example in the UK, one implant would cost me £1000. I could go to Poland and get it done for £250 - £400. This is with a consultation here in the UK first before going abroad and last time I checked airfare was included.

  68. How to infuriate the next generation of parents by nobodyman · · Score: 3, Funny

    When I see people with extreme body modifications like subdermal beads and spikes that protrude from the scalp, I wonder what their children of those people could possibly do to frustrate them.

    This article gives me the answer: in 30 years teenagers will grow teeth all over their body.

  69. How to store teeth today? by RichiH · · Score: 3, Interesting

    As someone who has smaller children in his extended family, I am wondering if there are any house-hold-compatible ways to save cells on teeth. Or should I just forget the whole thing?

    1. Re:How to store teeth today? by phorm · · Score: 1

      When I had my wisdom teeth pulled, I stuck them in a little tube with some rubbing alcohol. They lasted for about a year before somebody broke the tube on me, but they looked OK at that point. Maybe a regular preservative alcohol would work OK?

    2. Re:How to store teeth today? by RichiH · · Score: 1

      Alcohol will definitely kill the stem cells.

    3. Re:How to store teeth today? by phorm · · Score: 1

      D'oh. Good point. It's nice for keeping the teeth around, though.

      In that case, how about an airtight container in the freezer?

    4. Re:How to store teeth today? by RichiH · · Score: 1

      No idea, that's why I'm asking :)

    5. Re:How to store teeth today? by milletre · · Score: 1

      I say: don't bother. This is still a long way off as far as I'm concerned, and if your family cares about their kids' teeth, it's still WAY easier to prevent disease in the first place (good diet, brushing and flossing, etc.) than try to replace them through such exotic means.

      Invest in fluoride, not test tubes full of baby teeth!

  70. Re:Stem cell research is starting to look good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    FYI, the only fetal stem cells that have ever been considered for R&D or treatment purposes have been those of embryos created for in-vitro fertilization purposes that would have otherwise been destroyed anyway because the host mother got pregnant with one of the other embryos.

    You are just plain wrong about this.

    From the New York Times, 1999:
    "In the 14 years since discovering he has Parkinson's disease, Steve Ashworth has slowly lost control of his muscles. Two years ago, with simple tasks like brushing his teeth becoming next to impossible, he eagerly signed up for a chance to stave off his slide into immobility, the first Government-financed study of brain-cell transplants using tissue from aborted fetuses."

  71. Re:Stem cell research is starting to look good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In addition, the stem cells extracted from umbilical cord blood are fetal stem cells, although in this case the fetus is carried to term and born alive.

  72. Wisdom teeth by phorm · · Score: 1

    Well, apparently my buddy had all four wisdom teeth removed... twice. His also came back once.

    Too bad for me though, I've had all four of mine pulled because they were coming out crooked, and thus far no regrowth so I'm probably SOL stem-cell wise.

  73. Re:Stem cell research is starting to look good by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 1

    A sperm and an egg combined in a non-hospitable environment isn't a stage of growth by anyone's definition. It's like saying an acorn planted in nice forest loam is the same thing as an acorn planted on the moon.

    If you want to make an argument about the sanctity of a fertilized egg inside a woman's body, that is an argument that has the possibility of support, but making an argument about a fertilized egg in the freezer is ridiculous.

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    ad logicam Claiming a proposition is false because it was presented as the conclusion of a fallacious argument.
  74. Re:Stem cell research is starting to look good by Arthur+Grumbine · · Score: 1

    I'll be sure to tell all parents of the preemies in ICU how ridiculous it is for them to consider their child's life as "sacred", due to the circumstances of the child's environment in combination with the viability (or lack thereof) of that child outside its current environment.

    --
    Now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure everything I just said is completely wrong.
  75. Door into Summer by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 1

    Seems to me that Robert A. Heinlein predicted this long ago in "The Door into Summer".

    --
    "It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
  76. Re:Stem cell research is starting to look good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe they shouldn't have been keeping that child in the freezer then. Oh wait, you were talking about something completely different from the parent poster... almost as if you have no idea what's going on, and are just spouting emotive nonsense.
    You see, most people on this site try to reason with each other (hahaha 'most', naw I'm just kidding) without degrading their arguments to 'OMG DYING BABIES'. When the pro-choicers start entering hospitals to kill off the weaker babies, you might have a point. Until then, calm down.

  77. Dentistry is a scam by GuloGulo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Have you ever noticed that the state of restorative dentistry is progressing rapidly every day, but the state of the art in preventive dentistry is still brush and floss?

    I'm no tin-foil hat guy, but this is one area I genuinely believe is being overlooked solely for the monetary benefit.

    --
    "The government grants you rights, not the other way around."-- beav007. Yes, these people really exist...
  78. Sweet! by Nybble's+Byte · · Score: 0

    This ought to be a big hit in West Virginia.

  79. Old news by macdaddy · · Score: 1

    I thought I heard about researchers growing human teeth, cloned teeth, on the back of lab rats when I was in college a decade ago.

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  81. Meh by Dragofix · · Score: 1

    This reminds me of South Park episode "Tooth Fairy"

  82. Pffft by jhylkema · · Score: 1

    Good luck getting your HMO to pay for that.