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We're Just Not That Into You, iPhone Apps

maximus1 writes "A new report compiled by iPhone analytics firm Pinch Media finds the majority of people stop using apps the day after they download them, and only 1 percent develop a long-term relationship with any given app. Instead, most tend to lose interest after a few minutes, according to this article. Paid apps fare slightly better. 30% of the people downloading a paid app return the next day compared to 20% who download a free app. No surprises that the survey found that apps that focused on games and entertainment seem to outlast other categories when it comes to long-term love."

205 comments

  1. Freebies by jetsci · · Score: 5, Funny

    So...you're saying we should charge for EVERYTHING to maintain interest?

    /me charges girlfriend $20 for sex...

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    1. Re:Freebies by jetsci · · Score: 3, Funny

      Note: She's real, I swear. Please don't revoke my geek cred/card!

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    2. Re:Freebies by jetsci · · Score: 0, Troll

      She's Chinese, in her mind my skinny little-white man wang is as big as it gets...

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    3. Re:Freebies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      She's Chinese, in her mind my skinny little-white man wang is as big as it gets...

      That can be changed. Oh yes, that can be changed.

    4. Re:Freebies by auLucifer · · Score: 4, Funny

      I know! I'm always receiving emails saying so

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    5. Re:Freebies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      She's real

      Hand it over.

    6. Re:Freebies by alfredw · · Score: 5, Funny

      So...you're saying we should charge for EVERYTHING to maintain interest?

      Absolutely!

      BTW, you owe me $1.25 for reading this post.

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    7. Re:Freebies by governorx · · Score: 1

      This is an example of novelty vs practicality. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should, good ideas don't always lead to good results, etc. The poor saps who pay have to at least justify their original expense..

      I would actually prefer that telecom companies focused on delivering phones that work and that last. I want phones that ring and give me the opportunity to answer. I want phones that don't break in my pocket. I want display surfaces that can be cleaned easily and with simple water. etc. etc. etc.

      BTW Gimme my bees back.

    8. Re:Freebies by Lars+T. · · Score: 1

      She's Chinese, in her mind my skinny little-white man wang is as big as it gets...

      That can be changed. Oh yes, that can be changed.

      Okay, I heard of sex changes, but race changes?

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    9. Re:Freebies by afedaken · · Score: 1

      Never heard of blackface?

      But seriously, wasn't there a Fox show about just this sort of "Racial Trading Places" kinda thing recently?

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    10. Re:Freebies by AmberBlackCat · · Score: 5, Funny

      If you actually care what Slashdotters think about your personal life then I think your geek credibility is not at risk...

    11. Re:Freebies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      /me charges girlfriend $20 for sex...

      That's a stock I'll be shorting.

    12. Re:Freebies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Wiser words were never spoken.

    13. Re:Freebies by mkiwi · · Score: 1

      You're really lucky. My app left me after I told her I wasn't ready for "long-term commitment."

    14. Re:Freebies by tikal2k · · Score: 1

      Don't you think she's curious about what the President's schlong looks like?

    15. Re:Freebies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pics or we don't believe you.

      P.S.: pics of her in swimsuit and we'll believe you more.

    16. Re:Freebies by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 1

      If Michael Jackson can do it, so can you!

    17. Re:Freebies by Voyager529 · · Score: 2, Funny

      The card or the girl?

    18. Re:Freebies by jetsci · · Score: 1

      Maybe YOUR president. Get out of your bubble!

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    19. Re:Freebies by hydromike2 · · Score: 0

      does that include tax?

    20. Re:Freebies by Ihmhi · · Score: 1

      Only if you live in Wisconsin.

    21. Re:Freebies by Rasta_the_far_Ian · · Score: 1
    22. Re:Freebies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is it true? You know, the sideways thing?

    23. Re:Freebies by kehren77 · · Score: 1

      The card or the girl?

      I would hope "it" would be the card.

  2. It's shareware all over again. by onion2k · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm an avid buyer of iPhone apps and games. I get dozens every week. And, yes, just as the article asserts I rarely return to them after a day or two. There are exceptions, such as Tweetie (I'm utterly addicted to Twitter, see sig (and follow me!)), and a few great games (Trism, Enigmo, GeoDefence), but the majority I see as throwaway stuff.

    Which is fine.

    These apps are priced to be treated like that. It's a return to the PD and shareware library ethos of old (old? I mean late 80s/early 90s). I remember paying a buck or two for a disk with a raft of simple, mostly awful Commadore Amiga games. Fred Fish anyone?

    It's pretty much the same thing. There were gems on those disks occasionally. There are gems in the App Library. Long may it continue.

    1. Re:It's shareware all over again. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I just used twitter for the first time this morning. What the fuck is the point of that website? Even the 'official' twitter feeds were stupid & had no content....

    2. Re:It's shareware all over again. by ColdWetDog · · Score: 2, Informative

      What do you expect? Although only the owner of an iPhone for a brief period of time due to AT&T's inability to deal with something as complex as the dreaded "family plan", I've looked at the app store on occasion and have been completely and thoroughly underwhelmed. A couple of useful apps. A bunch of total crap.

      I imagine that most of the things are impulse downloads or purchases, done when there isn't anything better to do and then ignored until it becomes time to clean the things out.

      When I switched to a Blackberry, I was originally a bit discomforted that there are fairly few applications for the platform. But I think they're running neck and neck in terms of useful applications.

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    3. Re:It's shareware all over again. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, like that 'I am rich' app... useless, waste of time and money, preys on people with too much of both.
      The novelty wears off, application darwinism keeps the good ones around for version 2.

    4. Re:It's shareware all over again. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      It's stupidity continued - Twitter is truly the bottom of the tubes. I think someone needs to hand in their geek ID.

    5. Re:It's shareware all over again. by commodore64_love · · Score: 1

      >>>It's a return to the PD and shareware library ethos of old (old? I mean late 80s/early 90s). I remember paying a buck or two for a disk with a raft of simple, mostly awful Commadore Amiga games. Fred Fish anyone?
      >>>

      I agree. Except for the "paying" part. Everything on my C=64 and Amiga came from downloads, and I never bought anything legally except for Sid Meier's Pirates. The Fred Fish discs were available for free from my local BBS, and yes they were mostly filled with junk.

      I only recall downloading two out of hundreds "aps" that were truly useful (a File Manager and JRterminal), and it appears the iPhone has the same lousy ratio. As a student I didn't have enough money to buy anything; thank god the MAFIAA didn't yet exist.

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    6. Re:It's shareware all over again. by cowscows · · Score: 1

      Meh, it never even really went away on the desktop either. I'm killing time browsing version tracker or whatever, see something that looks like it could potentially be useful/interesting/entertaining, and I download it. Most of the time it's not really what I had hoped, and it goes to the trash. Occasionally it seems useful, and I tuck it away in my applications folder. And sometimes I'll even end up using it again.

      Like you said, it's all about price. For free or maybe even a buck, you might as well try it to see if you like it. It's not like spending $50 on a retail game, in which case you should hopefully do some research (demos!) before you put down the money.

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    7. Re:It's shareware all over again. by Kethinov · · Score: 5, Funny

      I never bought anything legally except for Sid Meier's Pirates.

      Ah the irony. ;)

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    8. Re:It's shareware all over again. by PopCultureDiva · · Score: 5, Funny

      I never bought anything legally except for Sid Meier's Pirates.

      Ah the irony. ;)

      Don't you mean, "Arrrrr, the irony?"

    9. Re:It's shareware all over again. by POTSandPANS · · Score: 1

      Considering the popularity of all those "Fart" applications, I'm quite happy that people get tired of their iPhone apps quickly.

    10. Re:It's shareware all over again. by zrk · · Score: 1

      Quite agree. The "problem" is that product reviews are far from being trustworthy. The only surefire method to accurately gauge an app is to try it yourself. If they're annoying or don't work as advertised, you stop using them, some of them after 5 minutes. I will only buy an app if someone I know recommends it, but the free apps are like popcorn, and I will download it and try it later if it looks mildly useful/entertaining. I don't see the harm in that.

      I'd say, that of the 100 or so apps I've tried, maybe 10-20 of them are ones I use again and again. I definitely agree, it's deja shareware all over again.

      Also, I think there's a difference here - most people that have iPhones also have decent internet connections, and don't necessarily feel like spending a lot of time staring at the small screen when they have a bigger one nearby. Honestly, I have NOT noticed a great deal of iPhone users who have that patent-pending Crackberry Neck Slump.

    11. Re:It's shareware all over again. by AndyElf · · Score: 1

      Amen, brother. I have 7 screens of apps on my iPhone, many of which I seldom use. There're also, maybe, 5-7 apps I have removed from iPhone, most of which I paid for (within $4 each, I think). There are a few apps I still keep on the phone simply because I think I **might** need them (e.g. PCalc, HearPlanet, iTalk, Sketches). There're also those that I use, but rarely -- since they serve a certain purpose like: show-off (PocketGuitar, MiniPiano), getting stuff on and off the phone (Air Sharing), sharing photos (Darkslide), killing time (lots of games), etc.

      There's nothing wrong with such pattern. Think in terms of a number of shareware or demo apps one downloads to give it a try. Except iPhone makes it far easier and cheaper.

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    12. Re:It's shareware all over again. by BrokenHalo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I know I'll probably get shot down in flames for saying this, but you could always use the damn thing as a phone. ;-)

    13. Re:It's shareware all over again. by commodore64_love · · Score: 1

      Ah yes. ;-) Well MicroProse had strong copy-protection on their disks, so finding a downloadable copy of Pirates was nigh-impossible. It was easier for me to save my $1/week allowance and just buy it legally.

      The same was true for Dragon's Lair, Space Ace, and Red Storm Rising.

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    14. Re:It's shareware all over again. by Dogtanian · · Score: 1

      These apps are priced to be treated like that. It's a return to the PD and shareware library ethos of old (old? I mean late 80s/early 90s). I remember paying a buck or two for a disk with a raft of simple, mostly awful Commadore Amiga games. Fred Fish anyone?

      Remember that the "buck or two" you paid was ostensibly for the media, copying service and other work by the person who ran the PD/shareware "library" service- nothing more.

      Generally none of that money went to the people who actually wrote the software; registering shareware was a different process. (*)

      The modern equivalent might be paying for the cost of running a library/download site and the download bandwidth itsef, though even allowing for the fact that modern downloads are much larger, the cost is way lower; in part because separate media and manual work on the part of the site owner are no longer required.

      (*) Though IIRC later on there were some services that licensed titles through existing PD/shareware libraries. Similar deal, but the disks were sold at a higher price that included a contribution to the author of the software.

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    15. Re:It's shareware all over again. by ThinkingInBinary · · Score: 2, Funny

      Don't you need to buy an app for that? :P

    16. Re:It's shareware all over again. by mdwh2 · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's a return to the PD and shareware library ethos of old (old? I mean late 80s/early 90s). I remember paying a buck or two for a disk with a raft of simple, mostly awful Commadore Amiga games. Fred Fish anyone?

      Not really - the point is that these applications and games were freely distributable, and before the Internet, you were paying to cover the costs of distributing the material on disks. It's no different to buying Linux on CD.

      Poor quality shareware (or rather, crippleware/trialware) was more a problem on Windows in the 90s, where all sorts of trivial applications that might be free on other platforms, charged you £20 on Windows.

      Although yes, it's true that most stuff would be awful. That applies to anything really - free or not.

    17. Re:It's shareware all over again. by Envy+Life · · Score: 1

      Twitter is like blogging in 140 characters or less, eliminating the need for well thought out articles. Like iPhone apps, it can hold someone's interest for a few minutes before going to the next site.

    18. Re:It's shareware all over again. by beav007 · · Score: 1

      I think you do with the iPhone...

    19. Re:It's shareware all over again. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Yeah, like that 'I am rich' app... useless, waste of time and money, preys on people with too much of both.

      This is kinda offtopic, but it's not like anybody forced people to buy that app. How did it 'prey' on people with too much 'useless, waste of time and money' (for very large values of both?)?

    20. Re:It's shareware all over again. by sideshow · · Score: 1

      I just used twitter for the first time this morning. What the fuck is the point of that website? Even the 'official' twitter feeds were stupid & had no content....

      How's is your lawn? And, do you want us to get off it?

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  3. Commonly held... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... mis-belief that Apple customers actually pay for utility. You see this a lot in cults, high-ranking Amway people don't really use Amway products...etc.

  4. Sweet! by Samschnooks · · Score: 5, Funny
    Impulse buying! Kinda like that $999 "I'm rich" application or whatever it was. It's typical of ...

    Alrighty.

    I'm stopping myself now because, to be honest, I really, really want to post something that's, well, "Flamebait" or "Troll" to Apple users. It's an issue of mine. I was an abused child.

    It might be that I'm jealous of folks with the discretionary income to buy those stylish electronic gizmos that really aren't necessary for everyday life or for life in general. Or for the fact that I have Back Turtle Neck envy. I wish I could look as good as Jobs in one of those.I wish I could look that good balding! unlike Jobs who looks cool balding, I look like a dog with bad mange.

    Oh, never mind!

    1. Re:Sweet! by spartacus_prime · · Score: 1

      I'm wondering exactly how one creates a Back Turtleneck.

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    2. Re:Sweet! by Sapphon · · Score: 1

      Or for the fact that I have Back Turtle Neck envy.

      I, too, wish the back of my neck were protected by a hard protective shell. It might provide protection from the objects people fling at me when I point out their orthographical errors.

      As it is, I rely on *ducks*

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    3. Re:Sweet! by slyn · · Score: 1

      It might be that I'm jealous of folks with the discretionary income to buy those stylish electronic gizmos that really aren't necessary for everyday life or for life in general.

      If all I did was spend money on things that were necessary for everyday life I would certainly have more money that I do now, but I wouldn't be as happy.

      That's not to say that money always does buy happiness, but its worth the cash to go out on a nice dinner with my friends every once in a while, or drop some dough on whatever the new game of the month is, or spend some scrilla on some random class at the nearby community college to learn something new, or shell out some clams on your car to get a better one or improve the one you have, etc...

    4. Re:Sweet! by maxume · · Score: 2, Funny

      Lots of tape and a strong reality distortion field.

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    5. Re:Sweet! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or get off your damn lazy ass and spend 4k on paint ball gear so you can play it every week (classes? where the hell you come up with that). If you're gonna spend the money, at least go out and have fun (and if you need classes, I'm sorry)

    6. Re:Sweet! by hydromike2 · · Score: 0

      so what exactly are you posting this with? I suppose that those of us without "stylish electronic gizmos" could get by with something running win98, to you my $2k mbp may be a luxury but to some poor kid in Africa your win98 box is a luxury and they will never know the luxury it is to be able to waste their lives away reading the comments on /.

    7. Re:Sweet! by Anomalous+Cowpat · · Score: 1

      Ducks tend to be smallish and squishy. You might want to consider trading up - something large and threatening, like a swan, would probably provide better protection.

    8. Re:Sweet! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or for the fact that I have Back Turtle Neck envy.

      Hey, that's from my Mock Turtle Soup recipe!

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    9. Re:Sweet! by vertinox · · Score: 1

      Impulse buying! Kinda like that $999 "I'm rich" application or whatever it was. It's typical of ...

      I once bought iDrink at a bar while drunk in order to pick drinks at random, but once I had it, I didn't like its recommendations and just ordered what I've always ordered.

      And then never used the app again after that.

      That siad, I bought iCast (funny how they are all iSomething) and I use that all the time to listen to internet Radio. I also use Pandora for something similar.

      Oh and that 1Password application... I think all iPhone users would use that program if they knew about it since its the main one that remembers forum passwords and the like.

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    10. Re:Sweet! by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      Turtle neck shirts are itchy.

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  5. Why is this strange by gelfling · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The Apps store has a lot of junk. Quite a few apps are buggy. Some are interesting. The business apps are typically tied to third party services. Some are only interesting for 10 minutes. And some have a great deal of potential that's unrealized.

    For instance I'd love a restaurant locator app that works outside of San Francisco, Chicago and New York.

    1. Re:Why is this strange by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For instance I'd love a restaurant locator app that works outside of San Francisco, Chicago and New York.

      If you live in the US and Yelp doesn't cover your city...move somewhere else. I mean, even the shithole of sub/urban that is Buffalo is pretty well-covered.

    2. Re:Why is this strange by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For instance I'd love a restaurant locator app that works outside of San Francisco, Chicago and New York.

      That requires data, and data is hard to come by -- especially for non-major cities.

    3. Re:Why is this strange by Patch86 · · Score: 1

      There are a lot of services that already have that data. Yell.com for the UK, for example, have as much restaurant data as you could want.

      If they could see their way clear to collaborating on an app, it'd be lovely.

    4. Re:Why is this strange by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd love a restaurant locator app that works outside of San Francisco, Chicago and New York.

      Try the built-in maps application. It works fine for me when I enter 'restaurant' or the Dutch equivalent of 'greek', 'italian' or 'chinese'.

    5. Re:Why is this strange by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For instance I'd love a restaurant locator app that works outside of San Francisco, Chicago and New York.

      www.google.com

    6. Re:Why is this strange by Lars+T. · · Score: 1

      In the case of Yelp, shouldn't one be able to buy data? Cough

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    7. Re:Why is this strange by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For instance I'd love a restaurant locator app that works outside of San Francisco, Chicago and New York.

      If you don't live in San Francisco, Chicago, or New York, you can't possibly be chic enough to own an iPhone, anyway. You should probably just go back to hunting and voting for John McCain or whatever it is you people do in the fly-over states.

    8. Re:Why is this strange by spanielrage · · Score: 1

      For instance I'd love a restaurant locator app that works outside of San Francisco, Chicago and New York.

      Urban Spoon has restaurants for most cities.

      They even advertised it on a TV commercial a little while ago...

    9. Re:Why is this strange by NateTech · · Score: 1

      Yeah, it's really not too bad.

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    10. Re:Why is this strange by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 1

      Urban Spoon has restaurants for most cities.

      I second that. I like in a small (25,000) city in the Midwest, and Urban Spoon has 160 restaurant listings here.

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    11. Re:Why is this strange by SoupIsGoodFood_42 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I was looking around on some sites yesterday for a meditation timer and there seems to be a huge number of novelty apps. The last one that comes to mind is one that creates neat effects using your voice. There's huge potential for really great killer apps and even more simply useful apps, but there also seems to be a much higher number of novelty and rather lame apps compared to what you'd find on the desktop. Not to mention all the games. Still, there are quite a few good apps out there considering how long the app store has been around. I expect more good apps will emerge over time, and hopefully some of the novelty crap will disappear, too.

    12. Re:Why is this strange by ILuvRamen · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      you're watering it down too much. Apple made an overpriced product. Pretentious people and other douchebags bought it to show off how rich and special they are. Apple starts handing out software (indirectly) that's bugger and underperforming but flashy and cute as usual and their short attention spanned customers stop using it after they've showed it to all their friends in one day. It's really that simple. Seriously, everyone I know with an iPhone shows me ALL their stupid little apps and then when I ask what they use them for, they say they don't really use them. Apple products are and always have been all about showing off and that's why serious people don't take them seriously. Maybe that should find that out in one of their little studies.

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    13. Re:Why is this strange by houghi · · Score: 1

      For instance I'd love a restaurant locator app that works outside of San Francisco, Chicago and New York.

      There already is one. It is called map.google.com

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    14. Re:Why is this strange by jaynis · · Score: 1

      I buy a few apps and download more free ones, but I never bother to get even a free app if it has bad ratings. I think that system works well for me, and I have not come across an app that was a waste to download. Wasting time with some of the games from App Store is another matter. Cubes anyone?

    15. Re:Why is this strange by Mr.+McGibby · · Score: 1

      Salt lake city isn't. It ain't New York but it isn't nowhere.

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    16. Re:Why is this strange by Eli+Gottlieb · · Score: 1

      Since when did a population of 25000 qualify you to call yourselves a city?

    17. Re:Why is this strange by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 1

      Since we got an Applebee's?

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    18. Re:Why is this strange by Eli+Gottlieb · · Score: 1

      Remind me never to visit the Midwest.

    19. Re:Why is this strange by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 1

      There's no need to be an ass about it.

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  6. Many apps are just web services anyway. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A lot of apps provide the same info you can get from a website or web app. And as long as that site works on Safari on the iPhone, there's not much reason to install an app just for that task.

    It's not that the apps aren't useful, but rather after you download the app you find that it's just as easy to accomplish the task like you've always done it before you downloaded the app.

    1. Re:Many apps are just web services anyway. by iamhigh · · Score: 1

      A lot of apps provide the same info you can get from a website or web app. And as long as that site works on Safari on the iPhone, there's not much reason to install an app just for that task.

      I'll try to give the AC a little karma boost. I agree totally. Oooooohhhh, I can figure out how to split the bill!!! Or just open a calc and multiply by 1.2 (for tip) and divide by 5. Yeah I really needed an app JUST for that.

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    2. Re:Many apps are just web services anyway. by Silicon+Jedi · · Score: 1

      I'm just saying that when we split the bill evenly, the man eating steak is picking the pocket of the man eating salad.

    3. Re:Many apps are just web services anyway. by Lars+T. · · Score: 1

      I'm just saying that when we split the bill evenly, the man eating steak is picking the pocket of the man eating salad.

      There is no such man.

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    4. Re:Many apps are just web services anyway. by Helios1182 · · Score: 1

      Some apps are just repackaging of websites (NY Times, Yelp, Google Maps, etc.), but that isn't all bad. They can take advantage of the GPS as an app, and the interface is tailored to the device. But I agree that a lot of apps are mostly gimmicks.

    5. Re:Many apps are just web services anyway. by socsoc · · Score: 1

      That's a risk that you take when you split evenly. Salad man knew what he was doing.

    6. Re:Many apps are just web services anyway. by teh+kurisu · · Score: 1

      True, but you're dependent on good signal strength and/or WiFi availability in order to use a web app, particularly if it's an iPod Touch you're using instead of an iPhone where it's WiFi or nothing.

    7. Re:Many apps are just web services anyway. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But I don't believe in tipping.
      I don't tip because society says I have to. All right, if someone deserves a tip, if they really put forth an effort, I'll give them something a little something extra. But this tipping automatically, it's for the birds. As far as I'm concerned, they're just doing their job.

  7. Now Now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have apps that get little frequent use, but are indispensable nonetheless in certain circumstances.

    Makes for multiple panes, but I can solve a lot of problems from just about anywhere because my toolkit is with me.

  8. An alternative explanation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The App Store offerings are growing rapidly (not quite exponential, but pretty close by previously set standards). I see this use-and-discard method as a pretty healthy sign for the platform because it lets people experiment with different things. If people kept all their apps and used them every day since the day the App Store opened they'd run out of space pretty quickly. The turnover rate is pretty high, but I've discovered few gems that set a new expectation when I pick up a new mobile platform.

    Besides, mobile app half-life is much shorter than those of desktop ones. I've played some iPhone games much longer than full PC variants.

  9. Google maps has got to be an exception. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I use that almost daily, have since I got it on my (J2ME) phone.

  10. My iPhone apps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In my experience, the free app store is inundated with shovelware. But there are a few free apps I use on a regular basis, including: * TwitterFon * Last.fm / Pandora * Facebook * Fring (for instant messaging) * Urbanspoon (or Yelp) * Sol Free (solitaire) * Morocco (othello) So for the most part, I keep apps that supplement or extend the online services that I already use. These apps offer regularly updated content and a (relatively) rich user experience. Also, a couple classic games with good replay value make my list. In general, I find that the iPhone makes for an awkward gaming platform. Due to the lack of physical controls, the control scheme has to be overlaid onto the screen, thereby obscuring the player's view. The majority of unsuccessful iPhone games fall into three camps: 1) Gameplay ruined by aforementioned control issues 2) Not enough content (i.e. Space Deadbeef, high production value but played like a proof of concept) 3) Low quality games created by novice developers Then there are a few other apps I keep because work they work so well, but I don't often use. These include Remote, Shazam, Air Sharing, and a few others.

  11. Stereotypes by matt_martin · · Score: 2, Funny

    Must ... resist ... snide ... Apple ... userbase ... comment ... argh ... ugh...

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    1. Re:Stereotypes by im_thatoneguy · · Score: 4, Funny

      Are you suggesting that Apple customers have a short--OOoo! Shiny!

  12. Re:My iPhone apps (Should havce clicked preview!) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In my experience, the free app store is inundated with shovelware. But there are a few free apps I use on a regular basis, including:

    * TwitterFon
    * Last.fm / Pandora
    * Facebook
    * Fring (for instant messaging)
    * Urbanspoon (or Yelp)
    * Sol Free (solitaire)
    * Morocco (othello)

    So for the most part, I keep apps that supplement or extend the online services that I already use. These apps offer regularly updated content and a (relatively) rich user experience. Also, a couple classic games with good replay value make my list. In general, I find that the iPhone makes for an awkward gaming platform. Due to the lack of physical controls, the control scheme has to be overlaid onto the screen, thereby obscuring the player's view. The majority of unsuccessful iPhone suffer from one or more of the three following issues:

    1) Gameplay ruined by aforementioned control issues
    2) Low production quality
    3) Not enough content (i.e. Space Deadbeef, high production value but played like a proof of concept)

    Then there are a few other apps I don't use often, but I keep them because work they work so well. These include Remote, Shazam, Air Sharing, and a few others.

  13. Mostly gimmics by LoRdTAW · · Score: 1

    Of all the apps they watched how many were mainly a gimmick? A friend of mine downloaded an app that turns the screen into a small keyboard, how useful is that? He has a bunch of other apps he played with once and forgot they are even on his iphone. He mainly uses it for Google maps, the internet browser and a face book app. Other then that they are all mostly useless gimmicks.

    1. Re:Mostly gimmics by The+Spoonman · · Score: 1

      Further...how many have daily useful purposes? I have a bunch of apps I've downloaded that I use regularly, but not every day...Shazam (for tagging music, might use it once every week or so), Around Here (for finding a place to eat, only really use it when I'm out of town). Worldview (for viewing webcams, I only use it when the snow's bad and I want to see what my route home is like). As you point out, most free apps are either trials or gimmicks that won't see long term usage.

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  14. Well, what did you expect? by rob1980 · · Score: 1

    There are a couple of extremely useful apps, but think about it. The majority of those free or $1-$2 apps have extremely limited scope and utility, and dare I say purpose as well. Seriously, an app that animates a zippo? Lightsaber sound effects triggered by the motion sensors in the iPhone? Come on, like those are supposed to amuse anybody for longer than 5 or 6 minutes.

    1. Re:Well, what did you expect? by silent_artichoke · · Score: 1

      There is nothing more stress-relieving than pretending to slice up my cat with the lightsaber app for a good 15 minutes each night. Unrelated: Why does Firefox flag lightsaber as misspelled? That should be the first word in the dictionary file!

  15. I don't see the difference... by Neko-kun · · Score: 1

    between this and any other portable applications like say, games.

    My DSlite has been sitting on a pile of PS2 games for the past five months collecting dust along with all the games I bought for it. It's a giant stack of good games I've played/been meaning to play/shoved in my face to play, yet there they are. Not to mention that I had carried my DS for 3 months with me before I realized I wasn't playing it.

    Oh, but during the first 4 months of me owning that system you bet I played the crap out of it.

    1. Re:I don't see the difference... by Creepy+Crawler · · Score: 1

      I use DSLinux for maintenance of my servers.. You know, logs and stuff. It's nice to have a handheld easy to use Linux available. Too bad it has no MMU. I also use the TI-83+ emulator called WabbitDS, along with a algebra system called EigenMathDS.

      I also have a M3 DS Real with a 4gb card, so I can also play any rom listed on romulation.net

      Yeah.. 200$ = linux + calculator + web browser + IM + VOIP + all ds games.

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    2. Re:I don't see the difference... by afedaken · · Score: 1

      Several fundamental differences:

      - DS apps cost a heck of a lot more than your typical iPhone app. Perceived value alone will account for more usage of most DS games.
      - DS apps can be traded in for credit, or even returned to some retailers if sub-par. AFAIK you can't do that with the appstore.
      - Barring signal range, the iPhone is constantly connected. The DS needs wifi to get online. (Yes, iTouch, blah blah...) Since it's so easy to get AppStore products, the perceived investment is lower.

      All that aside, this might also just indicate your taste in gaming. I own all of the current and previous generation of consoles, and more than a smattering of handheld devices, including a DSLite, and an iPod Touch. And I can say in all truthfulness that when it comes to hours spent gaming per console, I've spent more time gaming on my DSLite than I have on all the other systems.

      I'd be able to say all the other systems COMBINED, but the number is skewed... ...because I'm on my second DSLite having worn out the controls on the first one. (I've got the parts and it's scheduled for a refurb as soon as I get around to grabbing my soldering iron.) IMHO, that says more about me and my gaming habits than it does about the viability of any of the particular platforms. I like to squeeze gaming into times between other tasks. I'll sneak a few minutes in while I'm on the can, while waiting for meetings to start, while in line, or when traffic grinds to a halt on the commute. I'm not however a casual gamer; I like a little more meat to my games.

      The DS offers just the right combo of portable convenience and depth to its gaming that it wins my attention. Most of the iPhone games I've tried have been just a little to lite for my tastes.

      Now all that said, if Nintendo has proven anything with it's Wii, it's that there's quite an audience of people who like to play lighter, more casual fare. Apple is doing a great job of capturing large swaths of that market. IMHO, these are also folks who are just as likely to move right on to the next neat game. (That's merely my observation, not an indictment or accusation.) And if so, so what?

      Apple has been paid. The developer has been paid. The user received the application. By my standards, this is the best possible conclusion!

      All the reports I've been reading on this topic seem to judge this to be a bad thing; I'm not sure it's bad at all, merely a reflection of the tastes of the iPhone community. The parent poster likes his games on PS2, with all the advantages (complexity, control, graphics) that it confers. I prefer a little more meat than the iPhone, but place portability at a premium. iPhone users obviously like things fresh and new.

      Isn't it nice that this market is big enough to fill all our needs?

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  16. iphone = toy by p51d007 · · Score: 0

    the iphone is a toy, not a business tool. Yes, it is a fantastic device for MP3's & video, but I prefer a WM device, where I can run outlook, word, excel, which I do daily. It's a personal taste thing...I use my phone for business, most iPhone users are caught up in they hype...the follow the Jones' attitude. "I got an iphone...why? Because everyone else has one". Reminds me of the Razr when it first came out.

    1. Re:iphone = toy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I got an iphone...why? Because everyone else has one".

      Yet you have no problem assuming M$ technology equals "business" just because everyone else does.

    2. Re:iphone = toy by zmollusc · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Jeez, I am glad i don't have to run fricking outlook, word or excel. I would rather go back to telegrams, tip-ex and a slide rule since these would actually be sufficient to cope with 99.99% of the things that outlook/word/excel are used for in business.

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    3. Re:iphone = toy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If it's a personal taste thing, then why are you trying to bash on iPhone users and claiming it's just a toy?

      A week ago, I went phone shopping with a friend and was amazed at how all the phones in there - even the ones costing hundreds of dollars with a two year contract - are just cheap pieces of plastic. I could see buying one of the models with a touch keyboard instead of the iPhone, but instead my friend bought a Dare because a magazine recommended it. When we were in the car, he had me try the Dare because he was having trouble getting it to respond to his touches. I got it working, and the UI was a pretty rough mix of the UIs I see on most phones - looking like they're made by the same people who run fiber and write in COBOL - and poor rip offs of the iPhone UI. It was really poor, and glaringly obvious in its low quality.

      As for the iPhone, it has plenty of warts but I can assure you it's not simply a toy. It's like with many other Apple UIs - it has flaws and missing features (MMS is perhaps the most glaring, even astounding), but it's put together better and more coherently than any competitor I've seen.

      As someone developing an intensive media app for the iPhone, I'm pretty well amazed with its capabilities. I thought throwing a few DSP units on it would start to bog it down, but I couldn't see a difference in CPU usage. It didn't blink until I was testing window-based DSP algorithms without caching statistics - i.e., I was recalculating the entire window with every frame. I honestly think a lot of developers for the iPhone have either been made overly cautious about system resources or have mistakenly taken the iPhone simulator's limits at face value. My main problem in developing for the iPhone is that because it's so much more capable than I expected, I've been caught up in scope creep and putting off the release date.

    4. Re:iphone = toy by fredmosby · · Score: 2, Informative

      The iPhone can connect to an exchange server, and read excel and word files.

    5. Re:iphone = toy by Zhe+Mappel · · Score: 2, Funny

      the iphone is a toy, not a business tool.

      Toy?!

      I suppose you think designer clothes, plucked eyebrows and exposed midriffs aren't business tools, too.

    6. Re:iphone = toy by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I use my phone for business, most iPhone users are caught up in they hype...the follow the Jones' attitude.

      Rubbish. I use my iPhone for business, where before I used to have a WM device (besides an old iPod, the iPhone is my first Apple device). When I first got the iPhone I hated the little incompatibilities with Outlook and the reliance on iTunes for synching. Actually, I still hate that... but for the rest, I found the iPhone to be vastly superior to WM phones when it comes ease of use. The GUI is fast and responsive, the on-screen keyboard is very usable even with fat fingers (and I hate the tiny physical keyboards that many phones have), and I can hold the phone in a sinlge hand and operate it with the thumb, something I somewhat surprisingly find very convenient.

      It's a matter of preference, I suppose. The iPhone falls well short of full compatibility with Outlook, which is the de facto industry standard in business whether we like it or not. A big mistake on Apple's part if they are truly after the business market (as they claim to be). There's a reliance on iTunes and it only accepts Apple-approved apps, which some may object to. But the ease of use of the phone more than makes up for all that. I'll not switch back anytime soon to a WM phone.

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    7. Re:iphone = toy by NateTech · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      Outlook = E-mail and calendar, something iPhone does just fine.
      Word = What are you doing editing documents on a phone? If you just need to read them, who cares?
      Excel = Maybe the only thing you might complain about on an iPhone, but who the hell does real business spreadsheets on a phone...?

      Reality is... you're just as bought into the Windows mobile hype as some people are bought into the iPhone hype. No one uses a phone to do real work on things... it's just a viewport into existing documents and a way to keep in touch with e-mail.

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    8. Re:iphone = toy by dohnut · · Score: 1

      While I wouldn't deride anyone over how they use the technology they paid for, I really have to wonder why use a phone for doing word processing and spreadsheets?

      Unless I'm in a car, at a restaurant or in a theater I'm probably not too far from a computer or a laptop. I personally can't imagine needing to do either of those activities in a setting other than home or work. And if you commute to work via mass transit, do yourself a favor and buy a cheap laptop. If you drive to work then do me a favor and keep your eyes on the road.

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    9. Re:iphone = toy by SoupIsGoodFood_42 · · Score: 1

      It sure is a toy if you treat it like one by downloading novelty apps and games. But to some of us, the iPhone makes all the other phones look like toys. My last Windows Mobile device was a joke. Yeah, it could read Word and Excel, but I never used them. Is that you're only reason why?

    10. Re:iphone = toy by tlh1005 · · Score: 1

      100% Agreed. I've had a BlackBerry, I have an iPod Touch, and In Dec. '08 I purchased the Samsung Omnia i910. This was supposed to be Verizon's iPhone killer. I disliked it and Windows Mobile so much that I paid an early termination fee to rid myself of the phone and Verizon. I had never used an iPhone before, but when I left BestBuy and received my first call I was amazed at the simplicity of the device and how well the UI worked. I NEVER used my Omnia to browse the Web, it was just that bad. I didn't even like placing and receiving calls on it. Conversely I use my iPhone non-stop, because it does what I want, when I want, and without effort. It's like the perfect woman. This phone is the one thing for which I pay a monthly premium and actually feel that I get my money's worth.

    11. Re:iphone = toy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Aah... so the Eternal September at Slashdot has begun.

  17. Damn the karma by Opportunist · · Score: 1, Troll

    So it means, Apple users have the attention span of a 3 year old?

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    1. Re:Damn the karma by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      How dare you sir... oh look a butterfly!!!

  18. iPhone (now with spyware) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    read their report and they seem more than happy to admit their apps phone home with these stats
    and as they are a "analytics" company not a software company it makes you wonder wether their apps are really spyware with a game tacked on, unless Apple release their stats publicly the only way they can get numbers is by spying on anyone who downloads their crap

    analytics is another name for spyware or stalkerware, the methods may be different to regular spyware but the results are the same.

    looks like Windows isnt the only vector for this business

    1. Re:iPhone (now with spyware) by im_thatoneguy · · Score: 1

      You really care if someone collects anonymous data on how often you run their application?

      Lots of applications have this as an opt-in program. Even Windows itself has this information.

      And generally it's used to improve the customer experience, like a running beta. I wouldn't call it 'Spyware'. That implies that it's actually gathering information about YOU not You in the metaphysical mass survey sense.

    2. Re:iPhone (now with spyware) by FrostDust · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure (I don't have an iPhone) that apps can't communicate with one another, beyond saving to a file and having the second app open it. You would only be able to track how long users use your own app(s).

      As you suggested, it therefore points to either Apple collecting all the usage data and releasing it, or a enough app producers are willing to give this information that the analytics company is able to get a statistically valid sample. The question remains, whether this data is being paid for, or there's some hole in the iTunes store that allows them to get this info for free.

  19. this is about ads earning in free vs. paid apps by djupedal · · Score: 1

    > "It's shareware all over again"

    Did you use/sell/buy shareware with embedded ads?

  20. Does it matter? by ArchieBunker · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You got your app and the author got paid. What is the problem here again?

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    1. Re:Does it matter? by afedaken · · Score: 1

      Somebody please mod the parent up? :-)

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    2. Re:Does it matter? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      They mention the specific case of ad-supported applications, in which case it does matter because this means they're pretty much unsustainable. It's also useful for adjusting expectations about how much word-of-mouth advertising you're likely to get.

      It isn't a problem, but it does matter.

  21. Most I use are try 'em,delete and try another by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Most apps are mere curiosities to say the least...some I have and I use but most I try and delete after using it a bit. I mean that's nothing new....

    I mean really how many FLASHLIGHT apps do your truly need?

  22. Not surprising. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The reports findings make perfect sense. And I'd be willing to bet that on top of this, more people than you might expect don't regularly use their IPhones as MP3 players either.

    My best guess is that most IPhone users get the phone -all excited, fill it with music and start checking out the features and then gradually start using the full capability of the phone less and less as time goes on, until basically they have a glorified cell phone which they occasionally use for maps and the Internet when nothing else is readily available.

    How many IPhone owners actually even carry around a set of headphones? And the ones that do, well do those headphones just find their way stowed in the bottom of a purse or the pocket of a backpack rarely to be used?

    1. Re:Not surprising. by tzanger · · Score: 1

      If that's what the typical iphone owner does, then no, they really don't use the device. Then again, who am I to tell a person how to spend their money?

      I listen to podcasts on my way to and from work. I use twitter, facebook, email and locly every day. Mobileterminal and palringo at least once a week. And yes, I do actually have earbuds in my coat pocket. I don't use them unless I'm going to the library or somewhere were I'd rather listen to music than the ambient sound.

      I do have a bunch of other apps installed that get used much less frequently, but hey, it's a smartphone. I have a bunch of apps on my PC that I use the hell out of, and a ton more that I use infrequently... sounds like proper usage to me.

    2. Re:Not surprising. by wizzat · · Score: 1

      TBH alot of you people are simply being asshats - there's nothing surprising or special about this situation. Most of the apps in the store are free and are simply downloaded to see if they fulfill a specific purpose (perhaps even a momentary purpose). Why *shouldn't* I download the (free) flashlight app? Why shouldn't I download the Twitter/Facebook/Myspace app? Why shouldn't I download another calendar to keep track of my wife's monthly cycle and ovulation/pregnancy tests?

      Now, most people I know with an iphone use the Pandora app over their regular itunes collection - but virtually all of them carry headphones and use either the ipod or pandora app for music regularly. And in reality, I've known a fair number of people (just like you, apparently) that were all "Psch, iphone, I'll buy Smartphone-X it's just the same". Yeah, except when you use it you're like... DUDE W T F IS UP WITH THIS STUPID GUI!?!?!?!

      You don't see iphone users saying that. You see most of us pitying the poor saps that bought inferior phones that implement a substandard GUI. Hell, even the people I know that *HAVE* decent GUIs on their smartphone would really prefer the iphone. And yes, we all use them for business purposes.

      BTW, iphone killer apps that I'm aware of:

      • Pandora
      • Chess With Friends
      • Facebook
      • Myspace
      • Urbanspoon (Even has restaurants for the podunk town I live near)
      • SFNetNews
      • The Weather Channel (Much better than the built in weather app)
    3. Re:Not surprising. by Voyager529 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Three things:

      First, the case that you make about iPhone users using less and less functionality as time goes on is probably accurate. My question is whether you believe that this is unique to the iPhone, because I don't think that it is. I'm sure that the WinMo, Symbian, Blackberry, and Android users would have this trait to some extent as well.

      Second, it's not *just* about whether they've got headphones handy. What about people like myself who plug their phone into the car radio? Some people have an iPod dock on their desk at work. One of my friends' mom has an iPod dock in the kitchen. just because I don't carry headphones everywhere doesn't mean that the music functionality goes to waste. It is simply used in a different context.

      Third, let's take this to the desktop. I've got my freeware that I use all the time (Firefox, icechat, digsby, filezilla, ultravnc), my paid apps that I use occasionally, (ACID, Street Atlas, Office 2007), and the apps that I paid through the nose for (Adobe Suite, Mixmeister). Go to Download.com/Tucows/Softpedia and you'll find the same needle-in-haystack story. Apps I pay more for I use more, but I paid alot of money for them because I knew that they would prove extremely useful to me. While it's partially a self-fulfilling prophecy, it's partially just knowing that I need something before I buy it. this is true anywhere and on any platform. As long as there are developers, there are good developers and there are bad developers. It's up to the end user to sift between them.

  23. I ended up rolling my phone back... by Upaut · · Score: 1

    To a pre-2.0 state.

    All the applications developed by the underground iphone community, well 99% of them, were broken and abandoned when 2.0 came out.

    Why would I want these older applications when there is now an apple store to provide most of the functionality of these applications? I loved having a chat client that would run in the background. I loved having my iradio, my wedict, my ebook reader (and a ton of ebook sources for easy install on the go.) my video recorder, my ssh client, my voice recorder with easy import, my NES emulator and ROMS (legal... I own each one of those, I swear...) and other games. I miss installing a free ringtone of a song I already own. And I miss said ringtone being full length

    When people start porting their apps to 2.0 for installer or cygia, then I will move forward again.

    The iphone can be a very open platform, and a good one at that. It just needs people to move from the official SDK and create ones own; to forgo the rules imposed. To make whatever one wants...

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    1. Re:I ended up rolling my phone back... by FishWithAHammer · · Score: 1

      The iphone can be a very open platform, and a good one at that. It just needs people to move from the official SDK and create ones own; to forgo the rules imposed. To make whatever one wants...

      Are you going to make it possible to be paid doing that?

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    2. Re:I ended up rolling my phone back... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The iphone can be a very open platform, and a good one at that. It just needs people to move from the official SDK and create ones own; to forgo the rules imposed. To make whatever one wants...

      Are you going to make it possible to be paid doing that?


      So people need to be paid to contribute? Man, better call Linus on this and tell him he's been wrong all these years...

    3. Re:I ended up rolling my phone back... by Ash-Fox · · Score: 1

      So people need to be paid to contribute? Man, better call Linus on this and tell him he's been wrong all these years...

      Linus did get paid quite a bit for contributions he did in the past, even if it wasn't expected.

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  24. Continuous Improvement by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure why this is news to anybody. I've downloaded a lot of apps, and I will often times trash them after the first few uses. They were free, and as an app developer in training (still working on my first app), I was curious to see how they worked. Sure there's a lot of junk on there, but one thing often overlooked is that many people who write apps will be constantly updating the features of their apps. I bought Solebon for $.99 when they advertised a sale on their free version called Sol Free. That has gone through a few updates since then, and there are some really nice features that the app maker has added since then. I've played hundreds of games of Free Cell on it, and it's been a great purchase. Some apps that we've junked have probably gone under similar updates. While the quality might not be there today, it will be for many of these apps in the future.

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  25. Maybe a phone should just be a phone by Alcoholist · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Or could it be that people just want a phone and not some kind of do-it-all gadget?

    Call me old fashioned, but I've never understood this obsession people have with making their cellphone do tricks and whatnot. It's a phone. Its purpose is to make phone calls. If you want more capability, get a laptop.

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    1. Re:Maybe a phone should just be a phone by tehshen · · Score: 1

      My laptop doesn't fit in my pocket. My phone does.

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    2. Re:Maybe a phone should just be a phone by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's a phone. Its purpose is to make phone calls. If you want more capability, get a laptop.

      A mobile phone is a device that most people will have on them pretty much all the time. And if you are carrying it around anyway, why not use it:
      - to make pictures (you don't carry a camera around all the time, do you? neither do I, but I use my phone all the time to make snaps of notes on whiteboards and such).
      - to manage your agenda and to-do list (instead of having to carry around a separate organiser or diary).
      - to look up stuff on the internet (The apps with the Dutch train schedule and road conditions are ones that I use pretty much every day, on the go).
      - to find directions? (we're men; god forbid that we should have to *ask* someone).

      Come to think of it, I don't actually make that many calls on my iPhone. But even that functionality is there when I need it, and for all that I have to carry around just one tiny, lightweight device. I for one am glad that the functionality of phones has been expanded, the latest meaningful change (to me) being always-on internet that is actually usable.

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    3. Re:Maybe a phone should just be a phone by maxume · · Score: 1

      People paying $500 for "just a phone" aren't very good at shopping.

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    4. Re:Maybe a phone should just be a phone by gad_zuki! · · Score: 1

      I need a phone with a web browser. Its power, thats why. Youre like the guy I knew who was poo-pooing the internet in 96. No, its not a fad, its not just for movie trailers, and "pick up a phonebook" isnt the same.

    5. Re:Maybe a phone should just be a phone by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 1

      Call me old fashioned

      You're old fashioned. Besides, iPhones share applications with the iPod Touch, which starts at around $230 and never needs a service contract. I bought one so I can run all the fun iPhone apps without actually having to have an iPhone.

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    6. Re:Maybe a phone should just be a phone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry to say, but the iPhone is not just a normal cell phone. People buy it not because they want a simple cell phone. They want it either because (a. it does a lot or (b. it looks cool/is trendy.

      Maybe I'm wrong on this one, but I'm guessing there aren't too many people that bought the iPhone simply because that's what was available.

    7. Re:Maybe a phone should just be a phone by SoupIsGoodFood_42 · · Score: 1

      You're just old fashioned ;)

      Why would I want to carry a laptop around with me all the time for tasks that can be easily done on something the size of a phone?

    8. Re:Maybe a phone should just be a phone by Ash-Fox · · Score: 1

      My laptop doesn't fit in my pocket. My phone does.

      My Netbook fits in my jacket pocket. I love it.

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      Change is certain; progress is not obligatory.
    9. Re:Maybe a phone should just be a phone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Know any good restaurants in the area?

      Hmm, I'm not sure, let me pull my laptop out of my pocket to check.

    10. Re:Maybe a phone should just be a phone by Alcoholist · · Score: 1

      I guess I just see a rush to add features without really thinking them through and making them any good.

      Take my cellphone, for example. It has an address book, a day planner, an MP3 player, a camera, web browser, email, etc...

      I don't use the address book or day planner because my ancient Palm M500 does these things better. Admittedly, I only tend to carry the Palm when travelling because I mostly remember in my brain the contacts I need to know. I don't think I'm exceptional in this regard.

      The email... uh-huh. Because I love to get spam on the run. I've never understood the Blackberry crowd. Also, trying to punch in an email on a little teeny-tiny keypad is not my idea of fun or productive. If I could dictate the email to the phone, I might consider it.

      Web Browser: The web just isn't that useful to me on a tiny, pocket-sized screen. Even the iPhone, which has a very generous screen, can't really display all that much data. Also, my cellphone company robs me like a bandit for bandwidth.

      The MP3 player is crap. I have an old Creative MuVo Slim that does a better job.

      I don't use the camera because it is shit. As near as I can tell, all cellphone cameras are shit. I have a proper digital camera to take pictures with.

      Jack of all trades, master of none. That's the problem with devices like these. If they were competent at doing all the things they offered, I'd be all over it. But let's face it, right now people are being charged solid money for devices that really don't do a great job of being anything other than a phone.

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      Bibo Ergo Sum.
  26. I wonder by Lars+T. · · Score: 1

    Would all those "Apple user, ha-ha" posters look stupid if we also had the data for other platforms? Because we all know that stuff downloaded from Sourceforge will be used at least a decade, right? Do Jamba (sorry, "Jamster") downloads get a longer usage because they are so expensive?

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    Lars T.

    To the guy who modded me down from perfect to terrible Karma - Apple haters still suck

    1. Re:I wonder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Would all those "Apple user, ha-ha" posters look stupid if we also had the data for other platforms?

      No.

    2. Re:I wonder by Lars+T. · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Did the question hit a nerve? Why so offensive?

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      Lars T.

      To the guy who modded me down from perfect to terrible Karma - Apple haters still suck

    3. Re:I wonder by Lars+T. · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the confirmation.

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      Lars T.

      To the guy who modded me down from perfect to terrible Karma - Apple haters still suck

  27. I wonder by Vexorian · · Score: 1

    Did this story hit a nerve or something? Why are you on the defensive?

    --

    Copyright infringement is "piracy" in the same way DRM is "consumer rape"
  28. Re:I knew it!!! by rubah · · Score: 1

    so wait, you're saying netbooks don't have screens large enough to use the net with?

  29. Ahh, it takes me back. To 1999. by zullnero · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I remember so well the proto-economy that was the PDA application marketplace. Virtually the same were present back then as well, but now it's all news all over again. Now, with a big online app store, it's just a more widespread thing.

    Hopefully people won't think the only way to solve that problem will be web based apps (keyword there is "based", not locally hosted web apps masquerading as native apps). They work great on a desktop, but they will always suck on mobile phones. Just how it is with a small form factor.

  30. iFwwrrrrp! by Zhe+Mappel · · Score: 1

    If you've developed a "long term relationship" with your iFarting app, it probably isn't because you paid for it.

  31. Re:I knew it!!! by afedaken · · Score: 1

    Ya know, a 15 inch screen sure is nice when I've got a place to sit. And yeah, it does provide a nicer browsing experience than my little WinMob phone.

    But firing up my notebook is not at all as convenient or quick for doing a quick price check, whipping off a one or two line e-mail, checking a quick headline, checking movie showtimes, or doing a restaurant search. Even given Opera for WinMob's slower render times (to speak nothing of Pocket IE which is slower, or Safari which appears to be significantly faster) I can still get most MOBILE tasks done in less time than it takes your typical notebook PC to finish boot device detection.

    Apple users might get there quicker from sleep with a macbook, and I know how much y'all love your macs, but even the staunchest of fanboys isn't gonna lug around a 2lb air where an 8oz iPhone would do the job. More to the point, the macbook isn't a constantly connected device either; it'll need a data card or wifi to get there.

    Different needs, different users. iPhone users obviously value portability over browser experience. (Being a longtime WinMob user, I don't necessarily agree with the device choice, but I agree with the sentiment...)

    But hey, thanks for assuming that our mobile data needs and wants are nothing more than "ooh shiny thing."

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    If there's a castle floating upside down in the sky, then there's a castle floating upside down in the sky.
  32. Re:I knew it!!! by afedaken · · Score: 1

    IMO The current crop at 1024x600 is useable, if not ideal. Like the OP implied, if I have to do anything resembling heavy lifting, I'll tether my phone to my Aspire One, and do the job from a "real" machine. Much like how my phone is always at my hip when I leave the house, the A1 is small enough that I usually just grab it on the way out of the house and toss it in the back seat of the car, just-in-case. (And in lieu of my much larger, but much more capable ASUS notebook.)

    But 90% of my mobile web use is fine from the phone itself. The A1 still isn't really usable standing upright, or any place where I can't locate a surface on which to place it.

    --
    If there's a castle floating upside down in the sky, then there's a castle floating upside down in the sky.
  33. Obviously things changed completely in 2000. by argent · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have a good dozen apps on my Palm that I use on a regular basis. But then I didn't get it until January 2000, so I never had to put up with the sucky apps you hated back in 1999.

    1. Re:Obviously things changed completely in 2000. by afedaken · · Score: 1

      I'm curious, are you still on the same device?

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      If there's a castle floating upside down in the sky, then there's a castle floating upside down in the sky.
    2. Re:Obviously things changed completely in 2000. by argent · · Score: 1

      I replaced it with a reconditioned Clie SJ22 a few years ago, and I'm still using that.

  34. Re:Ahh, it takes me back. To 1999. by afedaken · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I think that the revolutionary change that Apple brings to this situation is the accessibility. For Palm, and WinMob, a PC was usually necessary to install new applications. (Not sure about BlackBerry, Symbian, or the other common Phone OS environments.)

    For an iPhone user it's 2 taps and maybe a password, and boom, there's your app. Microsoft has obviously seen what this means for users; they have an app store coming. Google made it a launch feature for Android too, and IIRC even Nokia will be getting into the act for Symbian.

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    If there's a castle floating upside down in the sky, then there's a castle floating upside down in the sky.
  35. Depends on the aps by ducomputergeek · · Score: 1

    Depends. I've not downloaded a lot of apps, but only a few remain. A lot get deleted because I down load 2 - 3 freebies for a task and then keep the one I like best, usually purchasing the "pro" version if available. That's what I did for an RPN calculator. (I really wish someone would develop an HP48 emulator) .

    But I have a whole screen of apps that I bought that I don't use on a daily basis. They are an SSH terminal, RDP, and VNC client. I don't use them "everyday", but in a pinch they come in handy. Same with some PostgreSQL utilities. Basically, I can log into our servers and fix whatever I need to from anywhere I have an Edge or 3G connection. And I've used them to fix problems remotely. Then I have a few more apps that get used about once a week, like Paypal, Flixter, Wikitap. Same with Google's apps. We share business docs via google docs and it's handy to be able to read, just wish I could edit.

    I have a few apps that I use everyday (The Weather Channel, AOL radio, Pandora, Sourceforge).

    I wonder how many people have apps they use, just not "everyday".

    --
    "The problem with socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money" - Thatcher.
  36. Re:I knew it!!! by RickRussellTX · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The browser on the iPhone is a revelation. It's the first small-format browser that has generated the same sense of "flow" that I get from a full-size browser. I sit down to use it after lunch then look up surprised when 40 minutes have gone by and I'm late for my next meeting.

  37. How many times do we use any software? by analog_line · · Score: 1

    The only applications on my desktop/laptop that I use on a daily basis are Apple Mail, Firefox, iTunes, and Adium. I'm not a major hunter for new cool utilities or applications (partly as a holdover from using Windows, unless I REALLY need what an application does, I don't bother with it) but even then that's 60 other things in my Applications directory that see little if any use (though a fair few of them are pre-installed iApps I never would bothered to have installed in the first place, and other 'built in' stuff). There are some of those that I paid money for (though they're all games).

  38. Download what you need, not what looks cool by JYD · · Score: 1

    The majority of iPhone users I know goes into the App Store / Cydia / Installer, sees something interesting, looks whether or not it is free, and if free checks if the phone has enough space, and if so download said app, rinse and repeat. The same pattern goes for apps that are not free, with the exception that the process becomes more conservative and stingy. It is actually by seeing this trend that I know that iPhone 2.0 only supports 9 pages of apps!

    In response to the article about apps being used only 1% after it has been installed, doesn't that work the same way in Windows as well? Notable examples off the top of my head is Photoshop, which I can see most people actually have a copy installed on their machine, yet the same user probably really only uses Paint.

  39. Pandora Rocks by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

    Pandora Rocks, rolls, jazzes and classics it up... even if 99% of what comes out is meaningless fluff for 99% of people, there will be killers like Pandora that most everyone can use, and super super niche stuff that's awesome for 1/10,000 iPhone owners and useless to the rest. That's the beauty of a "programmable" device, unlike the Moto815eVerizonLockedPieceOfStuff that I carry - it has some decent basic software, but could be sooooooo much more if it were open for people to get the most out of the platform (such as, the crappy GPS software that Verizon wants to rent to their subscribers...)

    The Palm software marketplace was almost identical the the iPhone store - cool shiny new programmable gadget appeals to semi-geek crowd with lots of disposable income. HandFart would have sold very well if the PalmPilot had a decent speaker.

  40. Re:I knew it!!! by FishWithAHammer · · Score: 1

    Of course. I'm posting this on my fold-out 27"-screen super-laptop with a holographic keyboard and laser-guided missile defense system.

    You and your weenie netbooks. Pfaw.

    --
    "You can either have software quality or you can have pointer arithmetic, but you cannot have both at the same time."
  41. Swiss Army knife... by bloosheep · · Score: 1

    I get a lot of apps to use as blades in a Swiss Army knife -- you know, you have blades you hardly ever use on your knife, but when you need them you're glad they're there. I don't need a flashlight every day, but I have a flashlight app on my iPhone "just in case." Same for a unit converter app. Many of the travel apps will not get used every day, but will likely see use for the few times a year I travel.

  42. Shred! by jhalstead · · Score: 1

    This guy doesn't look like he quit "playing" after he bought an iPhone app: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6qy4bi3SPI There's some seriously cool stuff out there, but most of it costs more than free or a buck.

  43. Need to expand survey?? by luwain · · Score: 3, Informative

    Perhaps this survey only concentrated on iPhone users and not iPod Touch users. Perhaps those who have iPhones are not as interested in apps as they are in communication. I've found that most iPod Touch users (of which I and my 12-year-old son are) usually fill up there iPods with multiple pages of apps. Though I have bought apps, I would say that most of the apps I have are free. I had jailbroken my iPod Touch previous to the creation of the app store. If the app store didn't offer free apps along with the paid ones, it's possible I would have kept my iPod jailbroken. I haven't tired of many apps, and I use some apps everyday (like Chess Genius, iSports, iReversi, Sudoku, Facebook, WorldWiki, Maps, Stocks, etc...). Other apps like Guitar Chords aren't really the kind of app you use everyday, but are nice to have when you need them. So I dispute the claims of this survey. I think "we" are very much into appstore apps. I wonder if these are the findings of a envious HP iPaq owner or a "Zune Person"...

    1. Re:Need to expand survey?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As an iPhone owner, I believe the numbers are probably in the right ball park.

      But I think this sort of phenomena is the same for any platform. 90% of the apps at junk, and even the good, useful ones we may not need everyday.

      I pretty much expected this when I got my iPhone.

  44. Air Supply by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I ended up tagging the article "babycomeback" in response to the title.

  45. Many apps are just XUL anyway. by Ostracus · · Score: 1

    "A lot of apps provide the same info you can get from a website or web app. And as long as that site works on Safari on the iPhone, there's not much reason to install an app just for that task."

    Sounds like what XUL was made for.

    --
    Shai Schticks:"You don't make peace with friends, you make peace with enemies"
  46. So what do you do? by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    It might be that I'm jealous of folks with the discretionary income to buy those stylish electronic gizmos that really aren't necessary for everyday life or for life in general.

    Do you drink? Go out to movies? What about restaurants? Do you own a car? Do you ever travel? Do you subscribe to cable?

    I'd say there's a 99% chance that you do plenty of things that other people would consider "unnecessary" for everyday life. So why attack people who choose a different use for the money they work for than you do?

    Unless you are posting from a monastery, I think I smell the tangy essence of hypocrisy here.

    --
    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
  47. That is an excellent point by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    I've already posted or I'd mod you up.

    Think about what kinds of apps actually install these analytics packages. Few serious apps would do so, not wanting analytics overhead to tinker with the app performance (or at least that is why I've not been interested in integrating third party analytics into my application).

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    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
  48. Re:Ahh, it takes me back. To 1999. by Tintivilus · · Score: 1

    For Palm, and WinMob, a PC was usually necessary to install new applications. (Not sure about BlackBerry, Symbian, or the other common Phone OS environments.)

    Now I'm all for bashing Windows Mobile, but let's not get too hasty. I'm on my second WinMob phone and I did all my application installs on both either over the air (download the .cab file with the browser) or from a memory card (.cab copied from PC or different phone). A PC isn't even remotely necessary to install applications.

  49. When i pay for app... by velja27 · · Score: 1

    I am going to pay for some app and not use it? Well if its worth anything i am going to use it till my iPhone dies,dont let any penny be thrown away.

  50. Ofcourse Ads are the reason by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They're usually a surprise and many times unexpected in simple apps. I stop using them the same day as the download too while keep using many of the other ad free apps much longer.

  51. Re:I knew it!!! by pdwalker · · Score: 1

    sit down to use it after lunch then look up surprised when 40 minutes have gone by and I'm late for my next meeting.

    That's because the browser and network are quite slow.

  52. Dont touch his precious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dont forget how much of one's self image is involved in this purchase of expensive toys.

    Only a select group have the brillance to buy something so genial. The rest are all jealous.

    The same way were jealous of that big fat black mama wearing clothes 5 sizes on Maury with cellulite jiggling and her scream "You jus jealous because Im all that!!" (Do finger Z snap)

    You should see those people when they decide to buy toilet paper... another buying decision with life changing consequences.

  53. Pr0n by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm sure if they were offering porn apps people would come again and again ;)

  54. My Favorite Apps by TheSync · · Score: 1

    Here are iPhone apps I use almost every day:

    1) Light. Yes, I use my iPhone as a flashlight more than I like to admit
    2) i41CX+ RPN calculator
    3) Files, which I often use to store reference PDFs for work, and I always keep an NYC subway map on it.
    4) Shazam, which I've used to figure out what a huge number of songs on the radio were
    5) The Weather Channel, when the Appleweather isn't enough (radar + NWS warnings)

    Things I've used once or twice:
    Panolab - sure, its fun, three times maybe
    TouchTerm - interesting to try, painful to use
    Night Camera - not sure this does anything
    Ruler Phone - not much of a ruler
    AIM - more of a problem of me not liking IM

    1. Re:My Favorite Apps by rwa2 · · Score: 1

      Thanks for sharing, I like seeing other people's lists like this.

      I'm still holding on to my Palm TX (with a failing touchscreen)... haven't really seen equivalents for everything I like to have on me (whether I use them or not) on any other platform yet.

  55. When do we get the real apps? by Bredero · · Score: 1

    Agreed, most of the apps are just crap. Twitter/hyves/facebook apps are decent and i use the teletext app daily but thats about it. When do we get the good stuff?

    TomTom or route66 with locally stored maps and turn by turn navigation?
    Skype without any wifi restrictions?
    A tethering app

    You know, apps that one actually has a need for and uses. Also i'm sad to say these apps are available on competing platforms. The iphone hardware is nice but the software is crippled.

  56. Phones are still phones by HartDev · · Score: 1

    It is a weird concept, since I own an iPhone, but there are just some things that a laptop does better than a phone or mobile device. I got an FTP app and the iconic notes app and the social networking apps, I thinking communication apps will be dominate since the phone is a communications device.

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    To see a few of my Android apps goto: www.hartwired.com
  57. Does a bear shit on the pope? by BollocksToThis · · Score: 1

    Holy crap! Find me a bunch of free applications where this ISN'T true.

    Goddamn, 90% of the stuff I try for the first time via apt gets shitcanned five minutes later.

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    This sig is part of your complete breakfast.
  58. Like the old days with the amiga.... by mafutha · · Score: 1

    I remember the old Amiga days that ran on shareware and freeware software. It was cheap, cheaper than windows stuff, and ran with less bug. And if there were bug the author was easy to contact a fix thew problem. I have one app with my Ipod touch called Recipes that there was a problem with the sending the recipe by email and I contacted the author and actually responded to the problem, found it, and said he would fix it. That's like the old days.. And true I usually stop playing with some 20 percent of the apps but most were free anyway. Those I use I use alot.

  59. Don't agree by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you install apps like a maniac, maybe. I use many apps daily, like Wikipanion to search and read Wikipedia, "Wijngids" to buy the right wines in the Netherlands, "Buienradar" to check if rain is coming my way, "Trein" to find public transport information, and so on.

  60. No Compeetting apps! by An+anonymous+Frank · · Score: 1

    I remember using 'Act Names' on my Palm Vx...

    I want a decent CRM on my iPod touch, but I can't, it's not possible. iCal (on the touch/iPhone) simply does not cut it, which practically writes off the device for me.

    The app store's offerings are mostly trinkets, and browsing for apps from the device is awkward at best.

    Now I just use it for music and mail.

  61. Thank you all for your suggestions by gelfling · · Score: 1

    But it was just an example.

  62. Mafia:Live is pretty addictive by fawzma · · Score: 1

    join my family, 195 064 788

    it's pretty cool attacking someone who has 70+ hotdog stands, if they lose the fight and I get 500k+. It reminds my of what it was like to play Legend of The Red Dragon back in the day.

    Other than that, I'd say the article is spot on. Downloaded a ton of stuff only to never be used again. Thank goodness for the free stuff.

  63. So That's Why Ballmer Is So Interested? by macs4all · · Score: 1

    Sure, NOBODY wants iPhone apps afterall. Sure.

    I guess that's why Ballmer is wailing and moaning for Apple to 'open' the iPhone platform?

  64. Pshaw! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You like Twitter? You'd probably buy an iPhone app that just played a video of Steve Jobs banging your mother while she mocks you on endless loop.

  65. Exactly. Who funded this "study"? by rinoid · · Score: 1

    Smells like a troll is awake at a certain "iPhone analytics firm" ...

    What is an "iPhone analytics firm" ? Do they make something other than scary "boogity boogity" sounds?

    So what. This is a non-announcement.

    We install MS Office on everyone's computer and folks guess what? Yep, people only use about 5% of the whole suite.

  66. Wow.... I'm surprised by the "no surprise" part! by King_TJ · · Score: 1

    As an iPhone owner myself, I know the apps I keep coming back to very regularly (and have been using for almost a year now, non-stop) are NOT the games, but rather, the information-related apps.

    For example, the AP Wire News program, is great. I read the daily news with it all the time when I'm waiting someplace in line or what-not.

    Many of the other apps I keep on my iPhone and like a lot are simply "special purpose" programs I wouldn't have a use for very often, but they're really nice to have when the need arises. (EG. I recently got one that gives you average price estimates for various automotive repairs, and lets you find shops in your area along with recommendations/reviews from other users of the app.)

    I do know a few people who tend to do a lot of program purchasing/downloading and rapid deletion afterwards -- but they tend to be parents who share their iPhone with their younger kids. Half the time, it boils down to the kid not using really good judgment about what's worth installing, so the parent has to go back through and do some "clean up" of all the unused stuff.

  67. My First Apple Product by MoronBob · · Score: 1

    The Iphone is the first Apple product I have ever owned or used. It is also the best device I have ever owned. I use it all day everyday. I use two radio apps everyday to listen to stations all over the world. If the performance and ease of use of the Iphone is any indication of how good their computers are then I will be buying nothing but Apple from now on.

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    Telecommuting! What about socialization?
  68. How to adapt Ipod Touch w/Verison Wireless Card? by js2009 · · Score: 1

    After talking to both Verizon and Apple, I am reaching out to the tech sauvé community to see if anyone knows how to make an IPOD Touch compatible with my Verizion wireless external card that I use on both my MAC and PC. My direct email is: jshapan@shapan.com if anyone has a solution, or knows of an adapter that would make this work. Before I spend the money for the Touch, I need a solution. Thanks so much, Jan

  69. I wish you could return crappy apps. by cyn1c77 · · Score: 1

    I have a different take on this article. 99% of apps are absolute shit and it takes people less than 1 day to realize this.

    I think that some of the apps for sale tend to be a bit better since the authors want to make money, but there is still a lot of crap out there. I rarely buy any apps for this reason. Sure, I know it is usually only a dollar or two... but I hate wasting ANY of my money on crap.

    I would probably buy more apps if I had the option to return them or demo the full version for a day or two.

  70. iAmboredofapple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "...report compiled by iPhone analytics firm..."

    Yes, that scraping sound you can hear indicates that we've reached the bottom of the barrel.

  71. Galcon by NoPantsJim · · Score: 1

    I bought Galcon after it went down to $4.99 and haven't looked back since. I play it daily online. I didn't even realize online gaming was possible with the iPhone but they nailed it. It's the one game I've played on the iPhone that I really feel just can not be duplicated on a normal PC. Playing it with a keyboard and mouse would feel awkward, in my opinion.

    1. Re:Galcon by Blastercorps · · Score: 1

      Actually Galcon was a desktop app before it was an iphone/pod one. I've tried both, it's technically the same game except for the desktop version's other game modes. But I find controlling the iphone one easier. I can move my finger over a 3in. screen more easily than I can move a mouse over a 20in. one.

  72. Re:I knew it!!! by darkharlequin · · Score: 1

    I agree! Safari on my IPT2G is so much better than PIE on my tilt. I find myself bringing up internet sharing on my phone and looking stuff up on my ipod instead.

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    i am so very tired....
  73. Re:How to adapt Ipod Touch w/Verison Wireless Card by darkharlequin · · Score: 1

    Why not just get a used i730 off of ebay and get the unlimited internet. there should be wmwifirouter app available that will turn the i730 into a wireless router and allow you to use your IPT2G with it like a phone using skype or one of the other voip apps on the app store. I just hide my smartphone in another pocket and pretend like my touch is an iphone.

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    i am so very tired....
  74. Spamdot...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wonder who got paid and how much for the advertising in the subject?

  75. Re:My iPhone apps (Should havce clicked preview!) by teh+kurisu · · Score: 1

    I keep apps that supplement or extend the online services that I already use.

    I think this sums up not just what's successful from the iPhone App Store, but the general usage pattern of a mobile device. A phone is a communications device, so it's no surprise that Facebook and Twitter apps are more commonly used than any others.

    A phone is also an instant notification device. Phones have had ringers for a long time, telling the recipient of a call that someone would like to speak to them now. It's also true that many iPhone apps are crippled, and many potential iPhone apps unworkable, because of the lack of a push notification system so far. IM apps are almost useless, for example. If the five-months-late push notification system every makes an appearance, I think we'll see a significant rise in the diversity and quality of App Store offerings, because the applications will become that much more useful.

  76. Cognitive Dissonance. by Jaywalk · · Score: 1
    So...you're saying we should charge for EVERYTHING to maintain interest?

    Welcome to to Leon Festinger's Cognitive Dissonance theory. In a nutshell, people try to justify their own decisions. If you paid for something you perceive it as having more value than if you got it for free. Otherwise, why would you have paid for it? Likewise, if you do something dull and boring for free you are more deeply invested in it than if you got paid.

    Sneaker companies found this out long ago. The hideously expensive sneakers are no better than the cheap ones, but they are perceived as better because you paid more for them.

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    ===== Murphy's Law is recursive. =====
  77. Re:I knew it!!! by stewbacca · · Score: 1

    Based on the popularity of the device, I'd never have known there were so many fanboys. Or maybe you are just an uninformed, biased douche. I'll take a fanboy over negative-nancy any day of the week, btw.