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Taking Showers Can Be Harmful To Your Health
TheClockworkSoul writes "According to both the BBC and NewScientist, showering may be bad for your health. Apparently, dirty shower heads can be an ideal breeding ground for Mycobacterium avium, a bug responsible for a type of pulmonary disease more prevalent than tuberculosis in developed countries, cases of which have risen in parallel with the rise in showering. Tests revealed nearly a third of devices harbor significant levels of the critter."
they keep dipping the shower heads in that stuff and it's magically shiny! maybe it'll kill bugs too?
Taking showers 'can make you ill'
Showering may be bad for your health, say US scientists
OMG! OMG! Wait, the article goes on to say:
"These bacteria [â¦] rarely cause disease in healthy people. Further work will need to look at whether finding these organisms is associated with any increased risk of infection."
Thanks, BBC.
Kohler? Seems kind of wasteful to say "through it away" rather than clean it...
That's why you clean them eh?
I guess a couple of co-workers are actually just taking good care of their health. I'm pretty sure one of them doesn't come anywhere near this bacterium more than twice a year.
A polar bear is a cartesian bear after a coordinate transform.
Secretly, some geeks knew this all along, hiding from the masses the real reasons they didn't shower. Now their cover is blown!
now there will be more smelly IT nerds walking around. Wait.... nevermind
If it ain't broke, DON'T fix it.
Creation of showerhead disinfection industry in 3...2...1...
+++ATH0
Finally the medical community is backing my position on showers ... and I know it's just a matter of time before some new study proves I'm right about the Doritos and climbing the basement stairs.
If libertarians are so opposed to effective government, why don't they all move to Somalia?
I know most people, myself included, run the water for a minute or two before stepping into the shower. (Due to the time it takes for the water to heat up, etc.) Would this help avoid getting sprayed with a build up of bacteria or is the stream of germs constant? Also, hot water + soap + friction can kill a lot of germs, wouldn't the fact that you're already showering help the situation?
Living in a house is bad for your health! A dirty house can spread all sorts of deadly bacterium.
Cooking in a kitchen is bad for your health! A dirty kitchen can be a breeding ground for deadly bacterium.
Your hands are bad for your health! Dirty hands can be a breeding ground for deadly bacterium.
Yes dirty things are breeding grounds for stuff that kills you. No one is surprised.
-Worst Headline Ever.
So showers are unhealthy, and I'm sure laying around in a tub full of dirty water taking a bath is unhealthy, so what's left, a sponge bath?
Tests revealed nearly a third of devices harbor significant levels of the critter."
There, FTFY
And I heard from a different source that you only need to worry if you are immunocompromised, i.e. AIDS and such.
The average Slashdotter has to be physically threatened to make them wash in the first place, now you're giving them an excuse NOT to? Brilliant. OMFG the smell!
Germs are EVERYWHERE. Hospitals do all kinds of disinfection that you wouldn't and couldn't do in your own home, and people still get staph infections.
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by this study, one could also conclude that this same bacteria would grow in the head of one of those acrobatic water things on the kitchen sink, and the hose extension to the kitchen sink. I use both regularly and ingest a significant ammount of the water from those devices. I should have a lot of health problems if this were really a problem.
DON'T TURN THE DAMNED THING ON RIGHT IN YOUR FACE!
(well, that and spending an extra $5 for a metal showerhead).
Seriously, who does that anyway?
You have to get the temperature right first, flip the switch, THEN you can get in the shower.
Stallman will live forever!
I might consider an Immersion bath if the blasted tub wasn't so dang small I mean come on how the heck am I, at 6feet and 4 inches tall, supposed to get my body into a 5 foot tub.
I guess bathing in your own dirt, germs and whatever else that crawl in your bath is better... Soon we'll have to dry clean ourselve to avoid all the shit they find everyday.
No shower in my basement.
For geeks in general?
Not from where I sit (downwind).
WTF? Over?
I read this blog yesterday on physorg.com and I can tell you straight up that the title here on slashdot is very misleading.
It sounds a little too exaggerated.
The poster presented this as true everywhere, at least deceptively implied it is so. The reality is this is only going to be true where the water isn't properly sanitized, in the US the clean water act requires cities, counties and water authorities to insure the water is properly sanitized before delivery. Most US systems are designed to have residual chlorine all the way to delivery (if you are worried about it let the water sit for 5 min before you drink it and the minimal chlorine will leach out of the water, or you can have an in home filtration system that will strip the chlorine before delivery to the drinking taps).
The only place this bacteria could grow in shower heads would be countries that don't require that the potable water be properly sterilized at delivery. That doesn't include the US and I doubt it includes any European country or Japan or any developed country for that mater that has clean water rules.
Wouldn't it be better if they provided some information on avoiding the potential infection apart from 'not showering'?
Doesn't not showering harbor other kinds of health risks?
my shower head needs a shower.
In Soviet Russia jokes are formulaic and decidedly non-humorous.
...not taking shower can be harmful to your social life ;)
This article does NOT mean you have an excuse to cease bathing.
This article also does not provide justification for the cessation of: tooth brushing, hair cutting, shaving, fingernail clipping, or deodorant usage.
Regards,
Society
need I say more?
I have so many questions that this article doesn't answer.
1) Where was the sample taken? UK showers? World wide? Third world countries?
2) Is there an information on different kinds of shower heads? for example, is this more common on massaging heads, low flow/high pressure heads, etc?
3) Does hot water kill this bacteria? Is it more common for people who take colder showers than people who take hot ones?
4) I always start the shower first before getting under it, since it takes about 5+ seconds to warm up... any ideas if this affects infection? (Thats more of a study question than a question from the article).
5) Any real way to prevent the growth? Someone already asked if CLR kills it. If this is so common, mind telling me how I can help myself?
I've never read a BBC article that left me with more questions.
"All great wisdom is contained in .signature files"
I've been saying this for years! Now excuse me, my mom is calling from upstairs.
My mom had a cough a few years back and a test came back indicative of a MAI infection. A different species of bacertia, but considered a part of the MAC complex.
Was curious as the where she may have gotten it. Maybe the cats litter box? Talked with the doc and he said this stuff is everywhere, in the air, in the dirt, on the plants. We are basically constantly challenged by this stuff all our lives and it only becomes a problem when disease or age compromises our immune system.
And he added needless to say, anything that aerosolizes this stuff is not so good, so we might want to look at the bathroom (where the litter box also happens to be). He mentioned the Lany Windermere syndrome and hot tub lung, so the idea that hot water and bad bacteria could lead to a steamy entry point of the lungs is well established.
My own useless theory is that whole problem is the low-flow shower heads that are precisely designed to better aerosolize a spray of water with less physical flow. This along with the change to more plastic parts may have made things worse.
Clearly, some further study and redesigns may be in order.
in a tub of Clorox. Pretty much guaranteed not to find any bacteria in there :P
Monstar L
Between red wine for the health of it and no showers no wonder the worlds oldest person in recent history was that 121 year old French woman.
Then you tell me that?! *cough*
I once had a signature.
My shower head breaks every 4 months, and I have to replace it.....although TFA doesn't mention how long it takes for this bacteria to build up....
is an entirely new shower head design which incorporates a Venturi tube drawing from an antibacterial cleanser reservoir. Clean and decontaminate without having to store bottles / bars within the stall. As an added bonus, if you formulated the cleanser correctly it could also act as a hands-free shower stall cleaner.
From 'You Are All Diseased':
... you're gonna get sick. You're gonna die and your gonna deserve it because you're fucking weak and you got a fuckin' weak immune system!
Where did this sudden fear of germs come from in this country? Have you noticed this? The media constantly running stories about all the latest infections? Salmonella, E-coli, hanta virus, bird flu, and Americans will panic easily so everybody's running around scrubbing this and spraying that and overcooking their food and repeatedly washing their hands, trying to avoid all contact with germs. It's ridiculous and it goes to ridiculous lengths.
In prisons, before they give you lethal injection, they swab your arm with ALCOHOL. Wouldn't want some guy to go to hell AND be sick.Fear of germs, why these fuckin' pussies. You can't even get a decent hamburger anymore they cook the shit out of everything now 'cause everyone's afraid of FOOD POISONING! Hey, wheres you sense of adventure? Take a fuckin' chance will you? Hey you know how many people die of food poisoning in this country? Nine thousand, thats all, its a minor risk.
Take a fuckin' chance bunch of goddamn pussies.Besides, what d'ya think you have an immune system for? It's for killing germs! But it needs practice, it needs germs to practice on. So if you kill all the germs around you, and live a completely sterile life, then when germs do come along, you're not gonna be prepared. And never mind ordinary germs, what are you gonna do when some super virus comes along that turns your vital organs into liquid shit?! I'll tell you what your gonna do
Let me tell you a true story about immunization ok. When I was a little boy in New York city in the nineteen-forties, we swam in the Hudson river. And it was filled with raw sewage! OK? We swam in raw sewage, you know, to cool off. And at that time the big fear was polio. Thousands of kids died from polio every year. But you know something? In my neighborhood no one ever got polio. No one! EVER! You know why? Cause WE SWAM IN RAW SEWAGE! It strengthened our immune system, the polio never had a prayer. We were tempered in raw shit!
So personally I never take any precautions against germs. I don't shy away from people who sneeze and cough. I don't wipe off the telephone, I don't cover the toilet seat, and if I drop food on the floor I pick it up and eat it!Even if I'm at side walk cafe! IN CALCUTTA! THE POOR SECTION! ON NEW YEARS MORNING DURING A SOCCER RIOT! And you know something? In spite of all the so called "risky behavior ".... I never get infections. I don't get em. I don't get colds, I don't get flu, I don't get headaches, I don't get upset stomach, And you know why? Cause I got a good strong immune system! And it gets a lot of practice!
My immune system is equipped with the biological equivalent of fully automatic military assault rifles, with night vision and laser scopes. And we have recently acquired phosphorous grenades, cluster bombs and anti personnel fragmentation mines.
So, when my white blood cells are on patrol reconnoitering my blood stream seeking out strangers and other undesirables, and if they see any, ANY, suspicious looking germs of any kind, THEY DON'T. FUCK. AROUND. They whip out the weapons, they wax the motherfucker and deposit the unlucky fellow directly into my colon! Into my colon. There's no nonsense! There's no miranda warning, there's none of that three strikes and your out bullshit. First defense, BAM! Into the colon you go!
I call it 'The Aristocrats'
Bacteria would not be harboring around if people would actually clean their shower and shower head once in a while with bleach and/or CLR; or completely change out the shower head out with a new one every two years.
Not to be stereotypical here but I don't shower regularly right now, on account of the whole "unemployed, no need to interact with people right now" part of my life.
After a couple "cycles" of only showering once every other/third day, my body acclimated to the different bathing. I found/find that my skin is, overall, much clearer (lifelong acme sufferer) as well as substantially less oily. I no longer feel like there's grease in my eyes by the time I go to bed, and my skin feels 'healthier'.
I wonder if routine shower cleaning would help fix the problem? I'd think that the chlorine in the water would help dissuade bacteria from growing. I wonder if that 1/3rd can be accounted for by low chlorine levels, or well water? We have non-chlorinated well water here, as do both my parents and grandmother, all in different parts of the country.
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Here's a copy of the abstract, for my fellow bio nerds:
The environments we humans encounter daily are sources of exposure to diverse microbial communities, some of potential concern to human health. In this study, we used culture-independent technology to investigate the microbial composition of biofilms inside showerheads as ecological assemblages in the human indoor environment. Showers are an important interface for human interaction with microbes through inhalation of aerosols, and showerhead waters have been implicated in disease. Although opportunistic pathogens commonly are cultured from shower facilities, there is little knowledge of either their prevalence or the nature of other microorganisms that may be delivered during shower usage. To determine the composition of showerhead biofilms and waters, we analyzed rRNA gene sequences from 45 showerhead sites around the United States. We find that variable and complex, but specific, microbial assemblages occur inside showerheads. Particularly striking was the finding that sequences representative of non-tuberculous mycobacteria (NTM) and other opportunistic human pathogens are enriched to high levels in many showerhead biofilms, >100-fold above background water contents. We conclude that showerheads may present a significant potential exposure to aerosolized microbes, including documented opportunistic pathogens. The health risk associated with showerhead microbiota needs investigation in persons with compromised immune or pulmonary systems.
+5 informative
This is all based on a study out of CU Boulder. As a Denver resident, I can attest that the dirty hippies at CU Boulder are on a never-ending quest to justify their poor hygiene. Don't be fooled! Shower every day!
-Peter
Germs!
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Just remove the shower head, and let it dry. Then, into the pipe end pour some cherry kool-aid powder.
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Actually, even tho you were modded off-topic, you probably have something here...
Simply don't be the first to shower. Problem solved.
Also seems to me that the normal Run it till its hot drill would solve this issue, as any concentration is likely in the first 20 seconds.
Sig Battery depleted. Reverting to safe mode.
I declare this a victory for Open Source. Now - on to making beards, sandals with black socks, and red suspenders fashionable again!
Give a man a fish and you have fed him for today. Teach a man to fish, and he'll say "WHERE'S MY FISH, YOU IDIOT?"
MAC is a pretty ubiquitous organism and clearly and emerging infection not only in the immunocompromised.
For people who live in older large buildings, legionnaire's is more likely to be a serious infection.
So much so that in many areas hospitals have to check their water regularly for it's presence to prevent outbreaks.
Legionnaire's it's not just from air conditioners anymore...
"For most people, taking a shower is not dangerous, but if you are immune compromised, such as the elderly or pregnant, it could be,"
He then says to not use plastic shower heads. But they are all plastic if you have the detachable hose kind useful for washing your hair or your children. Now while the effects sound scary in the wikipedia entry, is this killing healthy children? Parents are so paranoid, and they don't need a bunch of misinformation or half-truths to cause them to panic and either replace all their showerheads or quit letting their older kids take showers.
The article is light on information and facts, and high on scary words.
“Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
Did you ever get something on your clothes and get it off with your fingernail? That's dry cleaning. - Jerry Seinfeld
GERMS! GERMS! GERMS!
Germs that cause colds, bad breath... DIARRHEA!
Germs that flourish in YOUR family bathroom!
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Dear pesants, we need you to use less water since fresh water is getting scarce on Earth. We need you smelly unwashed masses to use less of OUR water so we can have pools and fountains and allow us elite types to shower more. So here, we offer this scary article to curb that water usage so there is more for our artifical private lakes we like to jet ski in. Remember don't drive that nasty green house spewing car as we drive around in private jets and boats that burn more fuel in an hour then you use in a month to tell you how you are hurting OUR environment.
Please, next you'll see them marketing cheaper 'disposable' shower heads so the ignorant pesants buy more cheap crap.
Step 1: Remove shower head
Step 2: Fill a bucket with warm water
Step 3: Add 1/2 a cup of bleach to the bucket of warm water
Step 4: Drop shower head in said bucket
Step 5: Go work in the cubical fields wage slave!
Step 6: Come back and remove shower head from the now cold, heartless bucket of water.
Step 7: (For the extra paranoid)spray the showhead with some Lysol or give it a second dip in some CLR if you have lime scale or calcium deposits.
Step 8: Reattach shower head
Step 9: Cowtow to the picture of your boss and thank them for privilege of allowing you to work for them.
Step 10: Take a shower just to piss them off after you come to your senses.
Step 11: Beg the water warden not to rat you out after you used more then your 1/2 gallon of water you were rationed for the day. Meanwhile the wealthy will enjoy steam rooms, lap pools, fountains and other nice things while you fester in filthy 3 day recycled bath water...
-=[ Who Is John Galt? ]=-
Because this article is exactly what the users of this site needs. Less of a reason to take a shower. :p
I have a daily routine that might prevent this problem, though it was hardly my intention:
I have a shower "extender", a z-shaped arm which raises the height of the shower head by a few inches. I happen to hate routine maintenance like removing hard water precipitates from shower heads, and I discovered a way to avoid it completely: after a shower, I loosen the thumbscrew of the upper elbow of the extender and rotate it into an upward-facing position, shower head and all.
This has the effect of letting water drain back out of the shower head, rather than collect and then form those precipitates we all love so much. Perhaps it also creates an inhospitable, or less hospitable, environment for Mycobacterium avium in the process?
Some coworkers have been avoiding getting infected by this bacteria for what looks like some years. Ancient wisdom maybe?
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6685890.html Shower head provided with an ultraviolet lamp United States Patent 6685890
Metal shower heads are most likely safer due to the Oligodynamic effect.
At first I thought that you could just "disinfect" your shower head by running it scalding hot for 30 seconds before jumping in. However, Mycobacterium Avium has a 90% survival rate in water at 120F, the typical temperature in your water heater. Bleach and CLR won't help either, since Mycobacterium Avium is much less affected by it than other competing germs, so you end up worsening the situation.
In Denmark we had the problem with the Legionella bacteria a couple of years ago. In order to save heat/oil/electricity, most had turned the hot water temperature down and the bacteria was able to survive somewhere in the hot water system (a problem in larger departments, where there is a central water heater, long pipelines, and the individual resident can not control the temperature of incoming water).
Especially old people were in danger when inhaling water aerosols containing bacteria. The problem was of course unnoticed for several years, but is estimated to have caused several deaths.
Solution to the problem; the water temperature in the hot water system should not go below a certain threshold.
There's also talk of health risks due to taking hot showers. Supposedly that releases chlorine and chloroform gas creating a health risk, particularly for those with asthma. I guess that's why there are chlorine filters for shower heads. Then again a filter would likely be a breading ground for bacteria so pick your poison...
Living dirty like shit. ^^
On a more serious note: What's actually worse than bacteria (many of which you actually need on your skin to stay healthy), is the overuse of skin "care" products when not needed.
Especially when they destroy your natural layers of protection.
I learned that the more simple it is, the better it is. I mean what do you really need to get your skin clean again?
You don't want to remove all the tallow/fat for obvious health reasons, so you will only need a tiny bit of tensides.
This also helps protect your skin from drying out from the water (which "normal" health products actually enable if used "normally", and then "fix" again. Selling it to you like some great feature.) The other thing that helps drying out, is of course, to not stand in the water half the day. ^^ (In that case you need some external fat sources to refill your protective layer.)
And then? Hmm... I guess that's it. Bacteria can't usually get through the skin anyway. After all, that's one of the reasons it exists in the first place.
So what is all the rest for?
To temporarily make your skin softer than normal, while being bad for it in the long run. (E.g. Dove)
To coat your hair with "protective substances" that aren't very healthy for them, just so they look and feel better, but actually aren't. (Typical product sold with this wording: Panthene shampoo & co.)
etc, etc, etc.
Any sufficiently advanced intelligence is indistinguishable from stupidity.
Most germs are killed with heat. Most people take hot showers, the hotter, the better. So most people don't have to worry.... um.... unless you are the few percentage that takes cold showers. heehee
How is a kitchen faucet any different than a shower head? I can honestly say that the shit I put in my sink is a hell of a lot dirtier than my hair. Wouldn't sticking your glass underneath the faucet and then going straight to your face with it pose just as much of an inhalation hazard as a shower?
Disinfecting a shower head is trivial. Pour some bleach in a bag, with enough water to immerse the shower head, put the shower head in the bag, use a twist-tie to hold it in place for a couple of minutes.
-jcr
The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
The Dept of Health and Human Services has released guidelines to prevent this phenomenon.
The General Order Lessening Dirty Elevated Nozzles is now in effect and mandatory for all.
Everyone will be required to take G.O.L.D.E.N showers henceforth.
I HAVE CUBIC WISDOM THAT TRANSCENDS AND CONTRADICTS ONE DAY GODS
So that means all of those stinky Europeans are doing it right? I just spent a month working in Brussels, and sometimes on the train or metro you'd get a whiff of somebody taking this news as a religious credo.
"There are no facts, only interpretations." --Friedrich Nietzsche.
Because It's just not necessary.
most bacteria just cant make it without light or heat down to extreme depths. My well water comes straight up from 600' down, a cold dark place, then a short horizontal distance. It is filtered first underground through sand, rock, then at the house, and finally with a carbon filter. I think the need for all the chemical treatments comes from the city not having all that much control of the horizontal runs. Constantly having some small sections repaired (introducing contaminants) and dealing with the possibility of back flow from houses without (or malfunctioned) back flow devices, unused sections exposed to good growing environments...
Perhaps the physicians during the Black Plague had their shit together afterall!
I saw this on TV this morning. Seems the bacterium can get air born from the shower spray, and then you inhale them. So Soap is not going to help there.
"When the researchers swabbed and tested 50 shower heads from nine cities in seven different states in the US, including New York City and Denver, they found 30% of the devices posed a potential risk."
This study was done in the US, and though the sample size is small, 30% is certainly not "very low."
Your brain is not a computer.
Also, according to the BBC, germs originated from Germany .
"Get well soon, Professor."
Sure, but once your shower evolves the ability to speak, it's just nag, nag, nag:
You're fat.
Wash behind your ears.
Having you been getting enough sleep?
Where have you been?
Have you been showering in another bathroom?
It's better to just apply a regular scrubbing and avoid the headaches altogether.
You can try showering without using any soap or shampoo. Sure, the first few times you might think your hair is greasy. But that feeling is actually your hair being lightly coated with natural oils. When your scalp gets used to the "no shampoo" regime, it will turn down the grease factory. This leaves you with way better looking, better feeling and much, much healthier hair. Works wonders for your skin, too.
Better because they got the British Medical Journal to write it - link
Oh for god's sake. People who aren't readily exposed to various bad-bugs aren't going to build an immunity to things like this. And the fact that people rarely, if ever, hear of this form of infection is quite likely that people are generally immune to it because they are constantly exposed to it.
So leave your shower heads ALONE. Change them only when you think the one you have now isn't good enough. If your immune system is doing its job, you'll be fine. If it's not, there's probably a LOT of things that will get you before this one does.
If you're one of those purell sickos... well, let me tell you, I have some really expensive shower-heads to sell you.
This problem of the dirty shower head is easily solved by my approach. Instead of hooking up to a city water tap, I just had a giant tank of bactine installed that I use instead. Best part: no soap required, just a wire brush and a brillo pad and you're in and out as fast as you can say, Where'd all my skin go?
but have you considered the following argument: shut up.
Being alive is dangerous and may lead to death, studies show.
But hospitals are full of sick people, people with compromised immune systems, and people with giant gaping holes in them.
Also, staph is freakin' EVERYWHERE, just waiting for breaks in the skin to enter and a compromised immune system to take hold.
TFP (the scientific paper) may be titled: "M. avium found in showerheads at 100 times the level of drinking water"
Science magazine headline (Newscientist) was: "Shower heads make a perfect home for bugs "
Slashdot: "Taking Showers Can Be Harmful To Your Health"
(Correlation != Causation) != We'reAllGoingToDIE
After logging in slashdot still does not take you back to the page you were on. It's been that way for 20 years.
The thing I'm wondering is, why would you *replace* the shower head, when most likely, can you deal with this problem as simply as soaking the shower head in a bleach-water solution once a month or something (might not even need to do it that often)?
While I generally agree with the point about immune systems, even a perfectly healthy person with a fine immune system could succumb if exposed to a sufficient concentration of these bacteria. Wouldn't an occasional cleaning of the shower head be more than enough to prevent such a dangerous buildup? Wouldn't that be simple, common sense ( I've always been taught that cleanliness is important to remain healthy, and that includes keeping kitchen, bathroom, etc clean)?
Based on one of the linked articles, I believe the risk posed by shower heads is not only that the bacteria grow there, but that when you are running the shower, some of the water becomes a fine mist which is easily inhaled. I've never had my sink faucet create a mist, though. But, you are right, I think, about the possibility of bacteria growing in the faucet. Apparently, inhalation is a bigger risk factor for these bacteria than ingestion.
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You need a CD4 count less than 50 before it will happen to you.
Not taking a shower can can be bad for MY health!
STFU
Looks like I should start taking Golden Showers.
If you think that the above is flamebait then you are a hippie who needs to take a shower. I am from Santa Cruz and may use the word hippie as much as I want because people all over the world automatically think I am one. I do exhibit many of the characteristics; I do, however, shower.
If you were offended by my frequent overuse of the word hippie, you'll hate these jokes even more:
Q: How do you hide money from a hippie?
A: Hide it under the soap.
Q: How do you know a hippie has been on your couch?
A: They're still there!
Now grow up, and allow your sense of humor to drop out of the cavity it's hiding in.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Once every month or so, I raise the household hot water from 120 Degrees F to 180F and flush out the dishwasher. I'm assuming 180F will pretty much kill anything after a few minutes. I'll run the shower at the same time (and steam my clothes, might as well use the steam).
...we may be smellier than 'cool' people, but we'll live longer!
'He who has to break a thing to find out what it is, has left the path of wisdom.' -- Gandalf to Saruman
given how rarely they apparently bathe...
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Not taking showers could also be harmful to your health.
Why, yes! I AM new here.
As a Frenchman, I guess I've got nothing to worry about... Just kidding... (and yes, I'm really French).
And that's before they they even saw my shower curtain!..
Funny.
Daily bathroom showers may deliver face full of pathogens, says study
Daily bathroom showers may deliver face full of pathogens, says study