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The Chinese Route To a Web Free of Porn
An anonymous reader writes "Despite repeated 'for the children' campaigns, the Western Web as a whole has provided little or no isolation of pornography. This is why the Chinese are now attempting to march to a place where no country has been before: a Web without porn. Recent regulations have included closing down 'vulgar' mobile sites, disconnecting 'obscene' servers, and restricting domain registrations. Yet the breaking news for Monday is that China is planning to enforce a whitelist on foreign domains: in particular, any e-commerce will have to register locally and obey Chinese law before they get whitelisted. Domains will otherwise be 'irresolvable' to Chinese Internet users. Meanwhile, the government is promoting this campaign heavily, calling it a 'fresh start.' It seems the Chinese may have to do without the Internet, before they can rid it of porn."
The Chinese Route to Web of Free Porn?
Yet the breaking news for Monday is that the China is planning to enforce a whitelist on foreign domains: in particular, any e-commerce will have to register locally and obey Chinese law before they get whitelisted.
Where does it say that? Citation needed!
[quote]the China is planning to enforce a whitelist on foreign domains[/quote]
written by a Chinese person?
NSFW warning on all following links!
So that takes care of wikipedia.org or are they censoring en.wikipedia.org differently than zh.wikipedia.org? Because while an English versus Chinese article may be more "culturally sensitive," there's still some unavoidable images no matter how different they are from the original. If they've never had to deal with the artwork versus pornography issue, they're soon going to discover that banning National Geographic for images of unclothed peoples is just not educationally sound.
Looks like we've got a new amusingly painful chapter ahead of us for Chinese internet users.
As a side note, I don't know if we ended up covering this story but citizens apparently can't register domains anymore either.
My work here is dung.
If you get rid of the porn, what do you need the internet for?
me so horny
me ruv you rong time
me so horny
too beaucoup, too beaucoup
It's nice to know the language of governmental oppression is universal.
Pornography = Speech they disagree with!
Pornography may be naked people having sex, or it may be sites critical of the government.
So how about a poll on how man more years the Chinese are going to put up with all these abuses before somebody in government (if not the entire government) gets hurt? How the citizens put up with such ridiculous non-sense without serious revolt? This can not go on forever.
Might as well remove all the salt in the ocean while they're at it.
*DrugCheese rants*
This is no doubt giving politicians in Canada, the UK and Australia ideas.
a night without stars. -Punjab (Annie - 1982)
The enemy of my enemy is quite possibly also my enemy. I've made a lot of enemies.
But don't they know that the internet is for porn?
This space for rent!
Fresh start today. Hundreds of fresh young....
never mind
These posts express my own personal views, not those of my employer
US neo-cons back the same ideas? It always seems like anything that comes out of China is absolutely loved by the neo-cons. These are the same idiots that pushed and defend the US PATRIOT act. Likewise, they are pushing for their members to not run multiple candidates, but to have the party select them. Apparently, they do not like Freedoms, or democracy.
No no no, Don't give Conroy and the religious nuts behind the Australian 'Clean Feed' any ideas. They've already done enough damage
This is a terrible mistake on the Chinese government's part. Just because every ruling party member likely looked at pornography as a child and became terrible people does not mean that every person who sees pornography in their childhood will grow up to be just as cold, calculating, and authoritarian.
I really, really, really hope the Chinese people wake up one day and notice their government has a stranglehold on all information in and out of the country just so it can keep it's own power. Or at least that's how I see it. I really don't know why the Chinese government does what it does but I wish I knew.
So China institutes a one-child-per-family policy. Due to social and traditional reasons, male children are far preferred. As a result, the population is already skewed male, and continuing to trend that way.
Now China's blocking the porn? How do they plan on dealing with the ah, excess males? Send them off to war?
Afer a thorough review, being very careful to make sure that there is absolutely no sexual connotation whatsoever, we have determined that all but the following are prohibited:
Binary 1. No. Dammit. OK. Zero. Dammit!!! Nevermind.
For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?
I only use the internet to spread dissonant lies about my government and to look at porn. ...
Conquest is not in our principles. It is inconsistent with our government." -- Thomas Jefferson
I swear, the first time I looked at your post, the attribution to Jefferson in your sig got mis-assigned to the whole post, leading to a very "wtf" moment...
The person who brought this story up is an idiot if they believe this is all about "porn." Yes, in the Tianamen Square incident a lot of people got screwed, but I would not call it "porn." Anyone want to take bets about how many sites concerning that particular obscenity will get blocked by these new initiatives? "Porn" my ass. It is about control. Plain and simple. Control to let the evil murdering bastards that run that country continue to do so. period.
Glad I live in Australia, where freedom of speech rules and the population wouldn't put up with this bullshit. Oh wait ...
Whitelisting the net is a serious blow for net neutrality. Best case scenario, foreign companies just need to slip regulators some money to get on the whitelist, worst case scenario is that China ends up with their own isolated Internet, with the only foreign sites available being ones that curiously promote the CCP's agenda. Social networking sites can't possibly comply with any 'no porn' rule; video-sharing sites like Youtube and blogs would also be conveniently blocked. Any site that can possibly be used by dissidents to spread political messages can also be used to host porn, therefore any politically inconvenient site can be kept off the whitelist, with the argument that 'it contains pornography' and no way for Chinese citizens to verify this.
This will also have the unintended consequence of breaking a huge number of links/page includes/images making even e-commerce sites unusable unless rejiggered to all be on one domain.
Did anyone else read this as "The Chinese Route To a Web of Free Porn" only to be disappointed?
China basically couldn't match those Japanese artists at drawing tentacles so they decided to move to a different business. See, capitalism works!!!
Repress the fuckin' - Repress the people.
Why are they so obsessed with blocking porn? Are they really that prudish? And I though the US were the ultimate prudes (and hypocrites) when it came to sex.
It doesn't hurt anyone or break down society as near as I can tell. Plus, you can't stop the natural human natural instincts which hormones produce, short of requiring all men to take drugs to suppress the desire (Half-Life 2's suppression field anyone?)
The ONLY reason I can see for their obsessiveness with blocking porn is that it can be used as the basis for developing the technology and infrastructure necessary to block whatever it is they want. In other words, porn is used as a scapegoat for setting up the measures which can then be used to block other things, the stuff the Chinese Government ACTUALLY feels threatened about...
The Soviets had a fetish for persecuting gay people. Now the Red Chinese have developed a fetish for stopping porn. Were the Soviet-Chinese border wars of the 1960s actually conflicts over gay porn?
It seems like it would be easier to let people have their perceived perversions within a communist framework than to go all-out against yet another thing. I understand that it's not the nature of totalitarian regimes to let any erratic behavior slide, but still . . . It's just weird that every single communist regime ever has had it in for some type of sexual hang-up.
I scream. You scream. I assume that means we're both acquainted with the problem. We proceed.
This is pretty much the anti net-neutrality law.
The bellow freezing point 'approval ratings' of the ruling Communist Party might deteriorate even more and unleash some sort of democratic reform (hopefully a non-violent one).
The web's pretty much all full of free porn.
since they gave us the phrase, "as hard as Chinese arithmetic"
China (and the rest of the world to a lesser extent) is slowly moving away from the "default accept" ideology of the free, open internet and towards a network where only approved devices can connect. Slashbots will rave and foam at the mouth about that "censorship is interpreted as damage" meme but it's sadly out of date. The Chinese can and will control what filth reaches their people. Sure, VPNs will be there...for a while at least...but the average Zhou won't bother with it.
It's hard for a lot of bicoastal Americans to understand - and even more difficult for transnational progressivist Europeans - but the Chinese people really do love their country. And their country has one government, which is the best government China has ever had. Ever since Deng Xiaoping ditched university Marxism and took the Communist Party on the capitalist road ("socialism is not poverty / to get rich is glorious") life has only gotten better in China. For all the bad press the Chinese government gets, they really are trying to do right, by their own standards. The problem arises when blinkered Westerners insist on judging China by "universal" standards. In fact, these "universal standards" have their roots in the Enlightenment...which China didn't have.
Aaah, kinda lost my point there. Anyhow, I'm no panda hugger but you simply have to put yourself in their shoes. A mere seventeen years ago socialism couldn't even provide clean drinking water and now China is the world's largest market for Rolls-Royce automobiles. This doesn't mean that the Communist Party of China will be relinquishing power anytime soon, though. They still maintain control over the economy via the allocation and issuance of business licenses and the denial of debilitating foreign influences, such as pornography.
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
Like everything in China, the rules are often ignored. Many ISPs sell "VPN" connections to unfiltered Internet. They are taking advantage of a loophole that allows private WANs to connect to networks outside China.
Only boring people are ever bored.
I'll bet SSH tunneling will be illegal, and will be considered evidence on its face that you are Up To Something. I wonder what the penalty will be.
On the other hand, the Chinese government does like money, and lack of SSL would make it rather hard to move money around via the Internet.
Either way, this is going to be about as successful as Prohibition was in the USA.
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lf(1): it's like ls(1) but sorts filenames by extension, tersely
I knew guys in Beijing who would be on a date and just need to stop back to the hotel for a moment. They'd throw on some hardcore and the girls would be mesmerized. Then they'd play cards.
This rationale is a lie, of course. China couches their real aim in a moral sleeve. Their real aim is nothing more than protecting their fascist government from the revolution that's coming, to keep the ruling party in power and shield it from criticism and challenge.
It's the same lie that Hugo Chavez spoke recently in creating his state police designed to conduct a "war on crime" when the simple fact is that it simply ends up creating a secret police that answers to Chavez alone and will end up reinforcing his power.
The same lie that Obama spoke about insuring millions and reducing the deficit by taking over health care. Never ends with these politicians.
"I Don't Have Enough Faith to be an Atheist"
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dissonant lies about my government.
Oh, come on, your lies just need to get a little rhythm....
I think it is time for some Western (particularly U.S.) corporations to man up, "do less evil", and tell China to put it where the sun doesn't shine.
Let them grow up ignorant, with half an internet. It's their choice.
http://www.asciipr0n.com/pr0n/pinups.html
is that with China, there's no pandering talk about "freedom" and "civil liberties." Chinese citizens know exactly what's up, whereas your average American still thinks they have freedom.
You think this is a provocative claim? It's not. The way the state deals with internet regulation is a perfect illustration. In China, you are forcibly blocked, end of story. Simple, efficient. In the US, law enforcement doesn't stop you outright, but instead they track you only to prosecute your ass later. Massive amounts of data are collected on you, whether it is by companies or by the state. The only real "freedom" your average American citizen has is the freedom to incriminate themselves, which, under the capitalist system, means complete financial destruction.
Honestly, you are screwed in either country. It's just that the Chinese government is more open about how they're screwing you.
In six years, this will be the whole internet, everywhere. They'll probably just stick it into ACTA.
I'm more interested in the porn coming "out" of China.
To further lower fertility rate, I'd suggest redirecting every porn request to "2 girls 1 cup" video.
They are supposedly atheists, why are they inflicting their morals on everyone?
Film at eleven.
There is only one reason for the existence of the Internet
If ever there was a need of goodluckwiththat tag, this article is it.
"Have you ever thought about just turning off the TV, sitting down with your politician, and hitting them?"
Did you know that dissonance (a conflict of people's opinions or actions or characters) is a noun, guess what the adjective form would be? (rhetorical question)
Wow, China got me just what I wanted for Christmas! I've said for years that China should be disconnected from the rest of the internet. That would solve sooooo many problems! And now they're basically doing it themselves. This is awesome!
Google's Super Secret Search Algorithm: SELECT @search_results FROM internet WHERE @search_results = 'good'
Subject: Every computer hackable by Radio Freq?
- a global conspiracy?
This lady claims to have found some strange things on her Windows PCs and Linux!
Subversionhack Archive
https://tagmeme.com/subhack/
So, with modern blackboxed hardware components, are all of our PCs hackable via radio frequency / ham packet radio type of blackbox voodoo?
Dig deep, I've found no other site like this. Are Linux/BSD varieties vulnerable?
http://www.invisiblethings.org/code.html
http://www.invisiblethings.org/papers.html
AND
This talk explores three possible methods that a hardware Trojan can use to leak secret information to the outside world: thermal, optical and radio.
In the thermal Trojan demo, we use an infrared camera to show how electronic components or exposed connector pins can be used to transmit illicit information thermally. In the optical Trojan demo, we use an optical-to-audio converter to show how a power-on LED can be used to transmit illicit information using signal frequencies undetectable by human eyes. Finally, in the radio Trojan demo, we use a radio receiver to show how an external connector can be used to transmit illicit information using AM radio transmission.
http://www.cvorg.ece.udel.edu/defcon-16/
https://www.defcon.org/html/defcon-16/dc-16-speakers.html#Kiamilev
fools laugh and cry tinfoil, others read and learn and decide for themselves
http://bluepillproject.org/
http://subversionhack.livejournal.com/1815.html
"I sincerely believe that Blue Pill technology will (very soon) allow for creating 100% undetectable malware, which is not based on obscurity of the concept. And I already stressed this in the description of my talk here (http://syscan.org/program.html) and here (http://blackhat.com/html/bh-usa-06/bh-usa-06-speakers.html#Rutkowska). The working prototype I have (and which I will be demonstrating at SyScan and Black Hat) implements the most important step towards creating such malware, namely it allows to move the underlying operating system, on the fly, into a secure virtual machine."
- http://theinvisiblethings.blogspot.com/2006/07/blue-pill-hype.html
http://rayer.ic.cz/romos/romose.htm
"The ROMOS is a stand-alone x86 code allows you to load and run your own binary code or 3rd-party code. ROMOS rely on BIOS functions only so it can be executed directly without any operating system. The main purpose of ROMOS is to be placed in a ROM, from where it can load/run other software (e.g. bootmanager, HW diagnostics, special controlling software...) during POST (Power-On Self Test) while your PC is booting up. It can also load DOS-based operating systems (may be other OSes) such as FreeDOS stored in ROM together with ROMOS. This mean that any floppy/harddisk/CD-ROM drive is not needed. It may be very useful in various embedded diskless systems. Or simply as reserve OS for rescue use. Other applications are on you."
mark this offtopic while you browse for porn to satisfy one more rub-one-off session, despite it containing more than the OP.
You do realize that your sig uses "begs the question" wrongly, don't you ?
Rather hypocritical for a sig that's making a statement about grammar and vocabulary I thought...
Unicode killed the ASCII-art *
If everyone is getting their porn off the internet then who is buying porn from the DVD vendors on the street or paying patronage to the brothels^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H I mean karaoke bars.
Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
So you're going to make other parts of the Internet who want to do business with you follow your laws for businesses? I'm not really sure why thats supposed to be a bad thing.
Honestly, I'd be fine with that for the US really. 99.9% of the population would be fine with it, not that many people buy outside the country anyway, and you'd drastically cut down on the usefulness of spam links to exploiting websites since they are either easy to cut off if they are repeat offenders or simply go after if they are in the country.
Personally, I'd love for several countries to disconnect from the Internet. You realize how much spam alone would go away if China not only restricted access to what they could view from the rest of the world, but also restricted what they could SEND to the rest of the world?
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all major e-commerce sites are going to jump through the chinese hoops. they don't want to loose that market. it's ingenious!
China's agenda...
step 1: rule the web
step 2: rule the world
the dragon is coming!
The Chinese government is just got tired to block every page against it on Internet. So it decided to simply close it!
One province had lost Internet Connection for more than 8 months and this is just the beginning.
Does that mean no more Chinese botnets sending spam from compromised machines, since domains won't be resolvable? Will IP's be valid? /confuzzled
First thing they do is kill the most innovative parts of the web that have the most cash flow. We've got nothing to worry about communism spreading. Their populations will be clamoring for western entertainment for centuries to come. What shall we expect from them next? Paying for delivery of DVD rentals instead of downloading it from Netflix? Or using horses for urban transportation?
....seriously?! What's the point of THAT? I thought that was what it was there for, in the first place?
I'm sorry, I don't understand why this is a good thing. What's wrong with pornography?
Honestly, you are screwed in either country. It's just that the Chinese government is more open about how they're screwing you.
If you think that the US and China are anything alike in terms of liberties, you're totally insane and unfamiliar with the last few decades of history.
Maybe you should lay off the boulevard press and get an education.
I'm fairly sure that if they took all the porn off the Internet, there'd only be 1 website left and it would be called "Bring Back The Porn"
Nothing is wrong with pornography ; however political information is sensitive and should be controlled, obviously.
The Chinese government is breeding a resistance movement, I do not think it can work, but if it does this is very bad news for everybody.
Should I be worried? Is it a freudian slip? And why is there such a big deal about freudian's underwear? Any pics of it?
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
Great news for the likes of Hamachi using VPN's.
Kids used to grow up on farms. Do you think the farm animals were trained to refrain from the facts of life just because a kid was around?
For that matter, kids used to sleep in the same room as their parents and since lots of families had lots of kids, the facts of life went on right beside them.
Puritan, you are doing it right.
You would give cows trousers to hide their shame if you could.
Kids are a lot less fragile then people think. But a lot of people like you seem to want to make up for parenting skills (have a full first aid kit and kisses to make the pain go away) with over-protectiveness. Childhood is a time for training for adulthood and this includes kids playing house and slowly learning that boys and girls got different bits and one day that may be important. But most young kids, if they are not ready to be interested simply ain't interested. I have dealt with young kids (6) and they think the whole deal has an appeal roughly equal to politics. Just allow them to experience the world and be ready to correct any misconceptions. But you are NOT going to stop them from seeing the cat from what comes naturally (hump the rabbit the wrong way around) because that is part of growing up.
A kid who googles vagina is ready to learn about it. You just ain't ready to talk to him about it on his terms and so you wish the entire world to be shut down because you still giggle at something we all been through. Grow up and face your responsibilities as a parent.
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
Yeah, because the US is the bastion of freedom for homo-sexuals. Tell me again in wich nation the people voted to make homosexuals 2nd class citizens?
Sometimes you got to think a little bit clearer before you comment. And China is pretty open about homosexual rights because they are not christians and as such do not have the WESTERN view that it is a sin.
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
Get rid of porn...
of course
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
I think the Chinese should call good ol' Steve and ask how to do it.
Just imagine, one big happy App Store China.
From the nation that brought us tubgirl and eel soup. Oh, the hypocrisy!
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Speaking of asian porn. The funniest porno I have ever seen, Crouching woman, hidden boner
And did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage? - Pink Floyd.
collapse under its own weight. No matter how many IOU's it has from the USA, the Communist Party of China only remains in power as long as it has a booming economy. The present economic miracle in China is a very recent phenomena and mostly results from the simple arithmetic of raising living standards from nothing to something which always appears to be a large increase. When the economic bubble bursts (and it will) the various factions within the CP and the Red Army will carve their own piece of the Chinese pie to the exclusion of all other interests. By that time, the great firewall and this nonsense won't make any difference.
Then Ikea will invade.
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in a democracy, the people's agenda becomes the government's agenda on a regular basis. in china, and other authoritarian systems, what the government's agenda is is not necessarily what the people's agenda is. so you can't speak of what the chinese people want as you do above, you can only speak of what some grumpy technocrats in beijing want
of course many chinese people have faith in their technocrats. that's easy for the technocrats to have in good times. the technocrats have delivered on a massive economic success by throwing out the communism in Communism. but when times get tough, which is inevitable, the people will grow disillusioned, and when they do, they will have their own ideas about what their government should do. if china were a democracy, the people's disappointments will find solace in a new regime and a new diktat. but when they are looking at the same grumpy old men after a decade of stagflation or whatever, there is massive growth in social instability. its inevitable
on that basis, it is perfectly valid for anyone outside the country to judge the chinese government and find it defective, and most importantly, to find it defective IN THE NAME OF the chinese people. it would not be valid for an outsider to criticize the chinese government if it were a democracy. if china were a democracy, you would have to say you are criticizing china, or criticizing the chinese people. but right now, when i criticize the chinese government, i am in no way criticizing the people, simply because the chinese government is not composed of the will of the chinese people, only the will of a small cadre in beijing
its a constant problem people have when talking about china, or iran, or other authoritarian regimes: when the government does something, and outsiders criticize that policy, it is not valid to say "how dare you, this is what the chinese want", or "you have no right, this is what the iranians want". no: its what a small elite want in those countries. which is not necessarily what the people themselves want. like in iran right now, and like it will be in china someday when the economy stops growing. there's a disconnect in nondemocracies there that you need to recognize
since china is not a democracy, you can't talk about what china is, or what china wants. you can only talk about what the chinese government is, and the chinese government wants. that's the essential defect with nondemocracies, and why they inevitably fail: the agenda of the government and the agenda of the people eventually part ways and stray apart, often during tough times (which china is not in now, but all countries go through tough times)
what you see in iran does not happen in democracies. because the government is what the people actually want, because the government actually consulted the will of the people in a vote. there's no massive anger on the streets. oh sure, there's anger in democracies, always, in all countries. but if the democracy is genuinely functioning, then that anger is the minority of people, not the majority. the vote is the pressure release valve that nondemocracies don't have. in nondemocracies, that pressure can only grow. you can't ever get rid of malcontent, in any society. but only in a genuinely functioning democracy can you minimize it below the threshold of revolution and rioting and unrest
democracies, for all of their messiness, provide something far more important than anything the chinese government provides: legitimacy. "i am the legitimate representation of the will of the people": only a democracy can say this. the chinese government cannot say this. it doesn't matter how much propaganda they churn out, the truth is the truth: the will of the chinese people is not consulted, therefore, the chinese government is illegitimate
on that basis, it is perfectly valid for outsiders to criticize the chinese government, and most importantly, to criticize it in the name of the chinese people. the chinese government is a representation of the will of a bunch of grumpy technocrats. not a superior substitute for the people's will, ever, in any country, in any time
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
Wouldn't a whitelist prevent any of the TOR nodes from being registered in China?
Sorry, the rule that foreign e-commerce web sites have to register with the Chinese authorities and hosting porn is illegal has been around for many years. It was part of the law when I lived there over 5 years ago, and the "porn" excuse was well known cover for cracking down on politically sensitive issues. Nothing that I can see is new or interesting in this report that was not just as true 5 years ago.
Moderators are letting a lot of crap slip through these days.
Living in Chile
Smash all the cameras.
It's simple, really. We could have a web free of porn, too, if we were willing to give up free speech and expression of ideas. Once you start censoring 'porn' (which is defined, how, exactly?) then it's easy to start censoring other things as well. Western culture, at least the US/Canada, values the free speech idea more than the porn-free possibility. I think most Australians also value free speech, but I wonder about the people they seem to elect... I don't know about the average Chinese person. I think they've lived with totalitarian communist rule for so long, they're used to the government controlling many aspects of their lives, and as long as they're being controlled, they might as well get the 'benefit' of not having to deal with 'porn' online. Of course, that doesn't speak to what they need to do if they WANT 'porn'...
Little girls, like butterflies, need no excuse. -- L. Long
...of Falun Gong, Chinese democracy advocates and other such irritants. I'm sure everyone will be relieved.
Who wants a web free of porn?
I for one would like the opposite. How about nothing but porn when I'm on the internet. I don't want to stumble onto a news site or blog by accident.
...Titan Rain has completely given up having anything to do with the internet citing that "it is now really, really boring".
Because what the chinese government want right now is a huge population of young angry and sexually frustrated males. What could possibly go wrong?
If you quote this signature there'll be 72 copies of Windows ME waiting for you in Heaven.
Chinese pr0n == Cream of Sum Yung Gai ?
Squirrel!
China used the idea of "for the children" to control commerce & thought, brilliant.
They don't want to be on the Internet. They want to be on a firewalled segment.
That's ok. They don't need all those globally-routable addresses.
The rest of the world can use those addresses to BE connected.
Hey China, next time you need concrete or steel fire up that ol' fax machine. Oooh. Sorry. We turned ours off because we have Internet.
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I would actually like to change it; but there's a very big problem with that. It's Slashdot. It used to just render the sig as ordinary HTML. Now it renders it as Javascript or something that pulls whatever sig you have at the time.
The result? Google's cached results display the current sig, not the sig you used at the time you posted.
I believe this is a serious flaw in the design of Slashdot, not Google.
If I change my sig now, it would result in many bizarre arguments in the Google cache. That's not necessarily a bad thing... but it doesn't suit my fancy right now.
The only real fix for this is for Slashdot to go back and substitute literal sigs in all the archives. Then we can all flip the switch back and change our sigs whenever we like. That's how it USED TO BE, and I used to rotate my sig once in a while.
For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?
Their efforts seem to be working, because the amount of Chinese pr=n is proportionally less spread than that of the uncensored world. And YES, I have checked it out myself :-)
So, now they'll need another revolution to overcome porn.
(richer burocrats)
Rwe obliged 2 save our future by choosing:O3 hole-greenhouse effect instead of accepting everydays gossip-nonsense chat?
It strikes me that, possibly, one reason for such measures is to give the people a different 'target' for their moral outrage. Evil terrorists. Evil pornographers. Evil communists.
Once you have the people sufficiently outraged by the 'menace', you can then label anyone you find. 'uncooperative' as the villain du jour, and enact all sorts of measures "the people" wouldn't normally accept (people disappearing without a public trial, censoring the press, monitoring communications, etc).
As for porno specifically, I'm no anthropologist or historian, but my experience has been that, by and large, people from all over the world, from different religious backgrounds, different cultural backgrounds, frequently have had a cultural bias against promiscuity, and pornography is linked in many people's minds with promiscuity. So, it's easier to start with a bias that people already largely have, and 'inflate' it, than to create a new one from whole cloth.
It's a trap.
... I am going to grant your greatest wish. I'm going to show you a web without sin.
"We shall abolish the orgasm. Our neurologists are at work upon it now. There will be no loyalty, except loyalty towards the Party. There will be no love, except the love of Big Brother. There will be no laughter, except the laugh of triumph over a defeated enemy. There will be no art, no literature, no science." - 1984
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1490078&threshold=-1&commentsort=0&mode=thread&pid=30560500#30562472
See subject-line above, & see how "the user with a better password" who calls himself "ihuntrocks" (more like "dumb as a box of rocks", lol) ran from this ->
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1490078&cid=30562472
Typical - he did just like most "users with a better password" usually go and do: Run! Especially when they shoot their pie hole's off & can't back up their b.s. ...
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"Outside of being completely amused by your rantings at others for criticizing your awful posting style" - by ihuntrocks (870257) on Saturday December 26, @10:44PM (#30560500)
Care to show us your PHD in English, you undereducated little dolt?
What's terribly amusing here, is WATCHING YOU RUN LIKE A SCARED BEYOTCH WHO SHOT HIS MOUTH OFF & NOW IS AFRAID TO BACK UP HIS B.S. ... or, are you showing others differently now? Not.
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"I am highly amused that you have honestly made the absolute worst mistake an IT security professional can make: believing that you have found a solution that someone can't break." - by ihuntrocks (870257) on Saturday December 26, @10:44PM (#30560500)
First of all: The use of a HOSTS file is only a SMALL PART of what's needed, but it is a HIGHLY EFFECTIVE ONE (especially in this very case) &, one that's easily obtained (see the HOSTS file section on wikipedia for example, & the mvps.org model's probably the best one listed imo @ least, because it's regularly maintained) & easily maintained as well (text editor, anyone?)...
So, once more? Care to prove me wrong?? Why don't you "grow a pair", & back up your b.s. I quote above:
Show where I am SUPPOSEDLY "wrong" here, or, in the URL above, and I will rip you up in seconds with very simple, easy, & effective work-arounds for your b.s. here (and I think you KNOW it, & this is why you outright RAN, you moronic little coward).
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"I'm glad you think you are clever, and I encourage you to keep a healthy level of confidence." - by ihuntrocks (870257) on Saturday December 26, @10:44PM (#30560500)
LOL: AND, who the hell are you?
Clearly, based on your lack of reply? Well - You're NOTHING MORE THAN JUST ANOTHER "USER WITH A BETTER PASSWORD" & that's it, "Mr. Admin", lol... so, please:
Don't even TRY to be "clever" with me, OR "look down your nose @ me" you condescending little douchebag... because I will shred you, and again - I think you KNOW it, because you ran like a scared little child who has done wrong (I can only presume that by your running away from answering me here).
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"However, your solution isn't exactly flawless" - by ihuntrocks (870257) on Saturday December 26, @10:44PM (#30560500)
Well, once more?
Tell me where it is "flawed" & I will tear up your stupid replies, literally in seconds, with very easy work-arounds (ones that are probably way, Way, WAY over your undereducated "user with a better password" dim brain's capability to come up with yourself).
I'll be waiting...
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"and rather than showing healthy confidence, you're over posting, becoming belligerent toward others, and generally being a prick." - by ihuntrocks (870257) on Saturday December 26, @10:44PM (#30560500)
You're the one calling the names FIRST, in the URL above no less as proof thereof, you LIMITED LITTLE DOLT (lol, "user with a better password"), & now?
NOW, I am only returning the favor, in kind, & patiently waiting to see if you actually possess a set of testicles.
After all - you running like a scared little "beyotch" now after I asked you to show me where my solution is supposedly "flawed", & especially in the case of the NetBIOS problem...
(Using HOSTS as a "total security