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EU Demands Canada Gut Its Copyright and Patent Laws
An anonymous reader writes "Late last year, a draft of the European Union proposal for the
intellectual property chapter of Canada, EU Comprehensive Economic
Trade Agreement, leaked online.
The leak revealed that the EU was seeking some significant changes to
Canadian IP laws. Negotiations have continued and Michael Geist
has now obtained an updated copy
of the draft chapter, complete with proposals from both the EU and
Canada. He says the breadth of the demands is stunning — the EU
is demanding nothing less than a complete overhaul of Canadian IP laws
including copyright, trademark, databases, patent, geographic
indications, and even plant variety rights."
I, for one, welcome our new EU Overlords!
Global harmonization through treaties is creating a race to the bottom as far as the citizen's general welfare is concerned.
I can't imagine why Canada is still negotiating such a treaty when it seems to be so insanely one-sided.
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Well, they also demanded we stop the seal hunt. Are they going to request that we all wear visors while playing hockey too? Honestly. How naive.
I say we take Alberta first, just to make Ontario Jealous. Then add them one by one, leaving Quebec for last. Just because they're going to be the hardest to convince. I suggest a heavy does of New Orleans style persuasion complete with mardi gras tickets.
How do you say "fuck off" in Canadian?
Since when did the EU run Canada?
Seriously, as a Canadian this disgusts me. The EU, the US... What the hell gives these assholes the right to demand ANYTHING?
Makes me absolutely sick to read this. There is nothing wrong with Canada's laws. And that is exactly why they want it changed, so there IS something wrong with it to throw the balance off hugely in favour of coporations.
Despicable.
Ottawa can always threaten the Europeans with the American army.
And to think that the EU had taken such a great stand with the ACTA. Then this has to happen.
Our culture doesn't get smarter, it just finds new ways of being retarded.
Well, it's a treaty. All the Canadians have to do is to not sign it.
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
Is copyright ancillary to the author, or the author ancillary to the copyright? If human lifespan in becoming longer, shouldn't copyright extensions past an author's life be shortened instead of lengthened? Or does it still hold that the good die young?
The Japanese didn't need to sign the declaration of surrender on September 2, 1945, but as with any course of action there would have been a corresponding reaction.
and what is the EU going to do? Give them a very dirty look?
Would that be "Up yours, mate!" or "May I have some more, sir?"
Actually, it’s the other way around. This is older.
But I still agree that now I won’t believe any anti-ACTA statement from the EU, until ACTA is dead, buried, and all its successors too.
Any sufficiently advanced intelligence is indistinguishable from stupidity.
Sign Ze Treaty or We Will Taunt You A Second Time!
The EU Commission is a non-elected body which has as it sole mandate[1] to restrict the rights of citizens, and extend the rights of EU based corporations. It is the Commission that negotiate these treaties, and in general propose new legislation.
The EU Parliament is an elected body which cannot propose new legislation, but can, and sometimes do, block the proposals from the commission. The good stuff you hear from the EU is usually from the Parliament, but they contribute their share of crap as well, as parliaments do everywhere.
[1] Judging by its actions.
Increase beef and cattle import tax to 4000%, for example. That might give Canada a message.
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...it doesn't involve granting more protections to the consumer or public interest.
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Wouldn't that violate other contracts?
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
So the EU 'citizens' (subjects?) will enthusiastically pay 4000% more for their beef? It sounds like an interesting idea. I bet China would like some of that beef.
It is, in the same way that Australia was treated as an extension of the USA during the "negotiation" of last "free" trade agreement between our nations. The result? Australia ended up with a DMCA-wannabe and extended copyright terms or lost other trade items. I particularly like the "Australia's IP laws will be substantially harmonised with the world’s largest intellectual property market, and a global leader in innovation and creative products." arse-kissing exercise. I'm sure that any Canada-EU equivalent will contain similar gems in English and French!
http://www.dfat.gov.au/trade/negotiations/us_fta/outcomes/08_intellectual_property.html
Patent litigation: A doctrine of Mutually Assured Destruction... in which everyone seems willing to push the button
I've always thought it would be cool to work in Europe for awhile, but I wasn't aware that we were members of EU. When did that happen? Is it because we've got the queen on our money?
Loose lips lose spit.
Whatever Europe doesn't eat, I'll eat.
I will not pay for this.
As someone here in the States, I have to say that I hope the Canadians tell everyone to piss off.
Seriously, what's the EU going to do? Invade?
Present the digitus impudicus.
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or at least the famous Sun headline on a previous EU strong arm attempt "Up Yours Delors".
In many cases this is a myth, a nice fiction we can tell ourselves to make us feel better. Treaties can be convenient way for governments to institute unpopular measures. Here's how it works:
Keep in mind that the real push for this comes from multinational media corporations. Governments are not negotiating as independent actors: these corporations intervene on all sides to coordinate and even draft proposals. What we really have is a group of likeminded businesses who operate in concert using individual countries as a front. The treaty then appears to be the result of self-interested negotiations between independent actors: in fact the aim is to stage-manage it to appear that way. Given a means to diffuse opposition (e.g. policy laundering), governments - or, more specifically, the relevant politicians and bureaucrats within governments - may find that lobbyists make sure it is in their personal interest to cooperate.
I have no personal knowledge of how this treaty is being negotiated. I am not accusing anyone of anything. I hope that the relevant individuals in government are representing the interests of Canadians. But I have no doubt this is the kind of thing the usual suspects are trying to pull. In which case the suggestion that "we can just say no" neatly conceals what's really happening.
One final point: Canada is in no way the equal of the EU. The EU has over 500 million people to Canada's 32 million. We tend to anthropomorphize negotiations as though countries were freely contracting equal citizens. They aren't. They are unequal powers.
So long as people keep wanting to buy Britney / Lada Gaga albums, watch US sitcoms (oh lord, why!), or import US I.P. in one form or another they are putting themselves into a weak position of negotiation against unwanted foreign I.P. laws.
You can have the turkish delight, but it comes with a price.
All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
No, they would switch to EU beef and cattle (which wouldn't be import taxed), and Canada would lose a lot of exports.
Not that I'm saying it would work, that's the GP's point.
Would that be "Up yours, mate!" or "May I have some more, sir?"
You're thinking of Australia. Our response would be "Up yours, eh?"
I suspect the WTO would have something to say about that.
"Notably, the draft includes many new rights for broadcasters. These rights form part of a proposed Broadcast Treaty at WIPO that has failed to achieve consensus. The EU is seeking to build support for the treaty by requiring Canada to implement many new provisions that would give broadcasters a host of new rights and force public places to pay additional fees for carry broadcasts."
So... in other words they want places that provide public benefit to pay more money to people who don't. That's... rational...
The result? Australia ended up with a DMCA-wannabe and extended copyright terms or lost other trade items.
So Aussie signed the "DCMA-wannabe" deal so it did not lose trade on other items. But guess what, Australia LOST ANYWAY, and got the DCMA rammed in for its trouble. Well, at least the politicians involved got their kick backs and personal perks, I guess.
In the EU bureaucracy, power is pretty much split into 3 blocks:
- The European Commission - non-elected, nominated and agreed by and between the countries governments
- The Council of Europe - representatives of each country's governments
- The European Parliement - directly elected
Somehow I suspect this treaty is being negociated by the European Commission, same as ACTA. That would make the "EU's" demands it contains not surprising at all: the Commission is (unsurprisingly) the one force in Europe which is deepest in the pocket of corporate special interests (for example, they were the ones that wanted Software Patents in Europe).
The European Parliement on the other hand tends to side more with Citizens and Consumers (again, unsurprisingly).
The funny bit is that, if the Commission does manage to get this treaty signed by Canada, it might still be voted down in Europe by the European Parliement.
If the imports result in enough money to actually cause Canada any problems, it is highly unlikely that the EU has the capacity to fill that demand. A market like this isn't something you can expand at a day's notice.
Australians are more likely to say "F _ _ _ OFF C_ _ _"
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Since when do we have European elections then? Each time I have to vote in the "European elections", I can only vote for national parties, and the amount of national seats is fixed beforehand. I never had the chance to vote for French socialists, Italian Catholics, the German Green party or any party at all that has an international reputation of being serious in their own ways.
Even though I have voted in these ridiculous "elections", I am still waiting for elections where I can put my vote on the European
party that deserves it, rather than on our national parties.
Nae king! Nae laird! Nae yurrupiean pressedent! We willna be fooled again!
No need for 4000% rises.
Brazil will be happy to sell more beef to EU.
The EU can demand all they want. This country in not part of the EU and we are quite happy with the way we've updated our copyright and patent laws. If they want to economically strong arm Canada into signing, we can just say no thank-you. Its not like we buy anything from Europe anyways. Except for, I'm sorry, nothing comes to mind, that we cannot produce here. In fact, it might be a great political move for our Prime Minister who needs LOTS of political capital.
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We've never given the commission a democratic mandate to parcipate in negotiations like this, and we can't remove them if we don't like what they do since they're not democratically elected. Yet the're representing us, trying to enforce a position that a lot of europes wouldn't support.
A message to start growing their own. It's not like they don't have land in Canada.
There is a war going on for your mind.
That is the idea.
Kind regards,
The USA.
PS, read up on lebensraum, or the trek west. Different direction, same result and tactics.
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Yeah, we could all start eating British beef...
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Looking at the recent history of Australia, I wouldn't count on it...
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
The EU sets out what it wants, Canada sets out what it wants. In this particular section, the EU is asking for a lot more than Canada, but quite possibly in other sections Canada is asking for more than the EU (I've not read the full text of the draft).
Then the two parties sit down and start horse-trading. Maybe there's something that Canada really wants that they'll happily swallow these copyright provisions to get. Maybe Canada will say, no, we can't accept these provisions, but we'll concede something else instead, or maybe the EU will say insist, in which case the Canadians will say "no deal". Most likely there'll be a lot of compromises by both sides, with both getting some of what they want, but not all.
It's interesting to consider why the Canadians are considering a free-trade agreement with Europe, considering that they're already in NAFTA. I understand the Canadian government has been unhappy with what they see as persistent US non-compliance with their NAFTA obligations, so perhaps they're looking at a deal with the EU as a Plan B.
Dear World,
As one of the few countries in the world whose economy is not absolutely sitting in the toilet, we, the People of Canada, would like to politely ask you all to fuck off, eh. We appreciate your opinions on our intellectual property laws but, given that we're not bordering on bankruptcy and/or forcing our people to live in a Nanny-state like the rest of you seem to be, we are forced to assume we must be doing something right while the rest of you aren't exactly laying down templates of "how it should be done."
We do apologize for the broad generalizations that may be made in this message but, really, the point remains - fuck off, eh. Mind your own damn business and we'll mind our own. We've done pretty well at minding our business and are just fine with things as they are. Thanks.
Sincerely and respectfully, Canada.
You guys really should read up on international politics once in a while. Not only does the EU wield enough power to do this, they have already done this against the US with steel- the European Union is estimated at 500 million people (2010), that is a really big export market, taxes need not rise 4000% to get the message across.
Also, don't underestimate the impact of even relatively small markets boycotting a product. During the "Muhammed crisis" in Denmark, a lot of middle eastern countries boycotted danish dairy exports causing millions in direct sales loss, just imagine the aggregated effect of that.
I seem to remember (which means, I don't have a reliable source...) that last time there was a dispute between the EU and the US about trade tariffs, the EU went and put a relatively large (around 50%) tax on a whole list of implausible-seeming products. The only connection between them is that they were each important to the economy of a swing state in the (then-upcoming) US election; the EU was trying to put pressure on the incumbents to accede to their demands or be voted out by their own citizens. (I ran into this problem when trying to import some embedded microprocessors from the US to the UK; it was necessary to decide whether they were handheld computers without a calculator function (very low import duty rate), or handheld computers with a calculator function (much higher import duty rate). In the end, I think they qualified as non-calculators.)
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The GP didn't think it through very well. If it was easy and cheaper for the EU to be eating only EU beef then we'd be doing it already. Taxing the hell out of an import that you need is a great example of cutting off your nose to spite your face.
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Maybe it's just that EUCETA is friendlier to European businesses and ACTA is friendlier to US businesses, therefore the EU wants the international IP agreement to be EUCETA and not ACTA...
I haven't read EUCETA so it's just a guess...
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really, why post anonymously, whereas the person you are replying to doesnt hesitate what he posts ?
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The EU is throwing its weight around I see.
It doesn't yet have a military, but if MEP Daniel Hannan is correct then they are already drafting laws to make a military.
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - historian Evelyn Beatrice Hall
Tell that to your buddy, guy!
That may be true, except of course that the comission members won't have any trouble whatsoever paying just about any amount of tax on it.
And they really want to get their way.
Besides, not even in the US do citizens get vote on foreign relations treaties, never mind on specific provisions of such treaties. Those treaties are negotiated by the president('s representative) and confirmed or vetoed by congress.
In the US foreign law is negotiated by the members of the executive branch of government, and ... NOT ... presented to parliament (which is why the "EU constitution", which is legally a trade agreement did not need to be ratified by parliaments, only by executive government representatives (whether that meant president, minister, or even king). Those individuals took the final decision).
Of course this is a(nother) loophole in the pseudo-democratic status that the EU somehow still maintains. The EU is not America, and executive branch politicians have final authority about import/export taxes (taking this power away from parliaments is called "harmonisation"). In the EU legislative power rests (also) in the executive branch.
Not only that, but EU courts directly enforce EU-negotiated treaties as law, despite those "laws" obviously not having passed parliament.
Global harmonization through treaties is creating a race to the bottom as far as the citizen's general welfare is concerned.
When I see films, or read books, such as Judge Dredd I wonder how could this shit become reality? I ask myself whether there would be enough external sources to ensure a general liberty and rights of it citizens? Then I see shit like ACTA and this happening and I suddenly understand - scary.
Jumpstart the tartan drive.
and currently you canadians are the only 'developed' country which insists on continuing brutal traditions of the past.
Really?? Wow, interesting.
So, you're saying there are no more factory farms elsewhere in the world killing hundreds of millions of cattle and chickens every year? There are no more hunters and fishermen, anywhere, killing animals simply for sport? That puppy mills and similar disgusting practices are now a thing of the past? That whales, dolphins, and sharks, are no longer killed every year to satisfy asian consumption?
I'm sure I could go on, but I hope you see how *completely fucking ridiculous* your statement is.
Oh, and BTW, I'm not trying to justify the yearly seal hunt, here (though I agree with the GP that the outrage is based on misinformation and lies rather than real, honest facts), but rather trying to point out the utter hypocrisy of your position.
Seriously. The USA is by FAR our biggest trading partner. They have been trying to bend us over for years about IP, Copyright and Patent law. If we are not about to capitulate the them, what makes the EU think we give a flying fuck what they say....
So, you're saying there are no more factory farms elsewhere in the world killing hundreds of millions of cattle and chickens every year?
yea, because there are millions of factories slaughtering cattle and chickens, WE SHOULD DO MORE AND CLUB SEALS IN THE HEAD. why ? well, because it is already being done in some form, so why shouldnt we just add up to the brutality in the world ?
above is your approach, and it is stupid. one should try to increase civility wherever s/he can, and not just rationalize additional brutality because, well, there are brutalities practiced in other areas of life.
what is more interesting that people like you, who come up contradicting themselves and proving the point they opposed - i used EXACT same logic you used to make your point, to justify brutal traditions elsewhere in the world ; "others are doing that, why shouldnt we"
talk about hypocrisy.
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Ah, so you think that the EU has the right to dictate Canadian law?
yea, because there are millions of factories slaughtering cattle and chickens, WE SHOULD DO MORE AND CLUB SEALS IN THE HEAD. why ?
Ah, you never read the last sentence of my post. Go back and try again. Wait, nevermind, I'll reiterate it: You're a fucking hypocrite, and your statement was idiotic. That's it, that's all. No attempt to justify. I was simply pointing out that the sentence you wrote was based on lies, ignorance, and stupidity.
Meanwhile, maybe try not drinking so much fucking PETA kool-aid. A little food for thought:
But, yeah, I'm sure the WWF is just a group of corporate shills. What do they know, right?
Shooting them is A) the most humane way to go about it
Actually, fun fact: Shooting them isn't necessarily the most humane way to go about it. The problem is that, unless you're a very good shot, you're far more likely to wound the animal rather than killing it outright. But a well-placed strike with a hakapik is very quick and effective in trained hands, comparable with established and acceptable humane killing practices according to the Agreement on International Humane Trapping Standards.
As you say, though, the whole thing is massively overblown thanks to organizations like PETA. Hell, in that wikipedia link, there's a rather interesting quote from a WWF study on seal hunting practices:
But, hey, what does the WWF know?
Wow, you must be dense. (S)he said:
Why the fuck did you bring that up again?
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It's better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.
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Canadians, tell the EU to screw itself over this point.
Keep in mind that the individual states use the EU to force through lousy ideas and laws (usually bought by the industry), which they cannot do locally.
Do it through the EU, though, and they can sob on TV that they hate the idea, but their hands are tied...
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I'm sorry, but since when did doing cruel things to other humans equate to killing animals?
I'm going to keep eating chicken and beef and pork too.
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Go visit a slaughterhouse in the USA or UK sometime.
Have a nice day.
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Your IP laws already mirror those in the US, because go ahead and try to say nay to us, and you will be left to trade with polar bears. I mean look, you cannot even legalize marijuana, because the precious neighbor will disapprove.
I would seriously consider hopping on EU wagon, because it's either them or US!
"Names Bum... James up my Bum"
or
"Who does number 2 work for?.... Oh, the EU."
or
"I'm Canadian and the EU is telling me to bend over and take it up the EH!" (Hmmm...actually, i think i'll copyright THIS one!)
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because the WTO saying stuff actually makes a difference to US behaviour. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/22/business/worldbusiness/22iht-wto.4296092.html A quick reminder that the EU is bigger and far more bureaucratic
we resort to keeping them in pens for their Milk and Eggsr.
Seals lay eggs? Shit! I've got to read up more on marine mammal reproduction.
Only I can judge you.
I don't want to buy them, I just want to continue stealing them.
You guys really should read up on international politics once in a while. Not only does the EU wield enough power to do this, they have already done this against the US with steel- the European Union is estimated at 500 million people (2010), that is a really big export market, taxes need not rise 4000% to get the message across.
Canada primarily deals with U.S., any EU economic ties are relatively marginal compared to that. It's not really a big stick. Oh, sure, it would hurt, but nowhere near enough, especially since, once it's applied, it would become a matter of principle to not give in.
Also, such measures hurt the one applying them as well. Which is why they can only be used with noticeable effect in a situation where the other side is at a significant disadvantage (e.g. they primarily export to you, but you import from nay other places). Which is not the case here.
Then, of course, the laws being demanded would also have an economic effect, and one could easily argue that it would be negative overall.
Except that politicians - especially EU comission members - can simply bill the state on "expenses". It's the average person who's shit out of luck, as always.
Not that I'm the least bit bitter. Just because our representatives give 40,000+ euro/month pensions to their buddies while the average person gets a few hundred at most is no reason to be bitter. Neither is our glorious leaders rising their own wages each year while the rest of us have our jobs outsourced to Chinese slave labour. Nor is having to pay 50%+ taxes for a new car while our Prime Minister gets one for free from the state (and has the gall to demand a bigger one, because the old one didn't "accomodate his family comfortably" - for the record, my car is 14 years old). No sir, I'm not bitter!
I do, however, think there's a 10th level of Hell reserved for politicians, because even the Devil doesn't deserve to tolerate them forever.
Forget magic. Any technology distinguishable from divine power is insufficiently advanced.
#3 You are comparing killing other human beings with killing another animal. We are omnivores, that means meat, we require the proteins from it. Absolute best case scenario we resort to keeping them in pens for their Milk and Eggs in order to get the proteins we need which in my opinion is actually LESS humane than letting them live and frolick naturally until killed for food.
As a point of information, humans don't need protein (or anything else) from meat or even other animal products. Plenty of people live on an entirely plant-based diet, usually more healthily than their omnivorous neighbors. Even if you also skip dairy and eggs the only thing you're missing is vitamin B12, but you only need tiny amounts of that, and it's gleaned from plant-based sources and added to most multivitamins and to things like soymilk.
So you can say you WANT to eat meat, but you cannot truthfully say that you NEED it.
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and you lack two brain cells.
just by typing 'i dont justify it' after going and posting a full paragraph justifying something does NOT solve any contradictions.
there is nothing hypocritical in what i posted. go and read them over again. i used the exact same logic used by canadians to rationalize this shit, to rationalize other things. if they can use it, i can too. if i cant, then they shouldnt be able to use it too.
i havent read anything peta about this. i dont give a flying fuck about who thinks what. im delivering my own opinion in this matter - clubbing seals in the head for any reason, is immoral, and uncivilized in 2010 in 21st century. period.
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tradition.
who's to say which tradition can be valid and which tradition cant ? everyone's tradition to themselves. so, if someone uses 'tradition' excuse to do anything uncivilized, others will find courage to demand similar or more extreme things. and they actually do it too.
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Ah, so you think that the EU has the right to dictate Canadian law?
Might makes right.
Well, Canada is a subject state to British crown, and Britain is a member of the EU...
More seriously, no, of course EU doesn't have the right to dictate to non-members. On the other hand, EU certainly does have the right to tax or outright ban imports from outside the union. Should Eu try to influence Canadian law by threatening to tax Canadian imports; now that is the question.
Forget magic. Any technology distinguishable from divine power is insufficiently advanced.
I'm not your guy, buddy!
yea, because there are millions of factories slaughtering cattle and chickens, WE SHOULD DO MORE AND CLUB SEALS IN THE HEAD.
Clubs gotta club, not allowing them to is denying their most basic reason for existance.
If you'd prefer, I can stop clubbing seals and club you and your loved ones...
Now let me get back to the acts that let me fulfil my violent tendencies without resorting to harming other humans.
what matters is, at our current time and age, we, as human civilization, are abhorring that kind of practice.
So, essentially, your crowd is flaking out, but it's just a fad.
yea. abolition was a fad back in 1710 too.
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just by typing 'i dont justify it' after going and posting a full paragraph justifying something does NOT solve any contradictions.
I have never justified it. Ever. Never once did I say "seal hunting is okay", or any variant thereof. Perhaps you need to work on your reading comprehension.
In a followup post, I then provided information demonstrating that hunting seals with a hakapik is not inhumane, despite what PETA and the media have told you. Again, I don't condone seal hunting (in general, I deeply dislike sport hunting and hunting for fur, though I'm fine with hunting for consumption), but the method used by the Inuit is no better or worse than any other (well, again, assuming the WWF knows something about the topic...).
im delivering my own opinion in this matter
No you're not. You're delivering the opinions the media gave you on the matter. See, people with their own opinions do their own research, and if you did your own research, you'd discover that "clubbing", as you so quaintly refer to it, is no more or less humane than any other form of hunting, and in fact generally more effective than using firearms. But, of course, the media didn't show you that. They showed you hunters with what appear to be clubs hitting cute whittle baby seals, so naturally you become mindlessly outraged. And now you seem incapable of actually synthesizing new, contradictory information... which, I suppose, shouldn't surprise me that much.
Now, perhaps you have problems with all forms of hunting, in which case, hey, good for you! Congrats on being morally consistent! But objecting to seal hunting simply because you object to the method is *deeply* ignorant... 'course, I expect little else from you (or anyone else who blindly believes the bullshit that comes out of the mass media).
Aggh, a Monty Python reference!
I reserve the right to have a physical object so I can sell it later, and recover my money.
That's not actually the case. Canada is a subject state to the Canadian crown. It so happens that the British crown and the Canadian crown are the same person right now (and 14 other country's crowns as well), but Canada is no more constrained by British laws and treaties, like EU membership, than Britain is constrained by Canada's laws and treaties, which preclude EU membership, or the treaties of Tuvalu influence Australia and Jamaica.
A Canadian scowls at you, ready to attack ...
beware he who denies you access to information for in his mind, he already deems himself to be your master (SMAC-ish)
Not since a while back it isn't - Elizabeth Windsor holds her regnancies seperately and Canada hasn't been subject to anything like British rule for about a century. All that there was, and which was abolished in the late 20c was the recourse to the House of Lords for certain esoteric legal appeals. Personally I hope the EU loses this one - Canada has a lot better IP laws than the EU or US.
yea, you justified it. go back and read your post again and see how you are iterating various arguments that would alleviate the severity of the situation if not totally exonerate it. saying you dont justify beforehand does not negate the following justification, in any form.
i see baby seals being clubbed in the television, and i get enraged. anyone which is not rotten inside, should be enraged to.
and no, i dont justify or accept any kind of hunting. on top of it, im vegetarian and dont eat dead animal carcasses either. so keep your snarky sarcasm to yourself.
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[quote]But a well-placed strike with a hakapik is very quick and effective in trained hands[/quote]
But a well-placed bullet with a gun is very quick and effective in trained hands.
There, fixed that for you.