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Google Introduces, Then Scraps, Bing-Style Background Images

NIN1385 writes "Google has scrapped the now infamous background image option on its homepage. After 14 hours of a scheduled 24-hour experiment to see how people liked (or disliked) the new homepage layout, the company must have found out it was very disliked. I guess the fact that 'remove Google background' was the seventh most searched for phrase today might have had something to do with it."

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  1. Opera users didnt have a problem by Rockoon · · Score: 5, Informative

    Google was browser sniffing again and didnt offer this "feature" to Opera users (who could get it to work simply by identifying as any of the supported browsers,) Opera users rejoiced.

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    1. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by negRo_slim · · Score: 1

      Personally I liked this "feature".

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    2. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by Darkness404 · · Score: 2

      Neither did people who used pre-release versions of Firefox like me

      ...But of course this means that people with ancient versions of IE didn't have to see it also...

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    3. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by MightyMait · · Score: 3

      The spammers wouldn't have gotten his address from the image if you hadn't posted it in plain text.

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    4. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      who is milsorgen@gmail.com ? The feature was nonsense, who cares about backgrounds, especially when you are blind.

    5. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by negRo_slim · · Score: 1

      You think I'm not aware of what is accessible by the information I provided?

      Everything you will find I am well aware of and accept that for if I did have a problem with that I wouldn't post said information unto the tubes to begin with.

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    6. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      That's exactly why it was posted in plain text.

    7. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by negRo_slim · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The spammers wouldn't have gotten his address from the image if you hadn't posted it in plain text.

      I post my emails milsorgen@gmail.com and mils_orgen@hotmail.com in plain text all the time, really the consequences of such actions are minimal enough to warrant not caring about someone scraping slashdot posts. Shit I sign up for enough marketing material willingly enough as is I doubt any real spam would even register at this point aside from producing an occasional fun diversion.

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    8. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Quick playin' Battlefield: Bad Company 2, finish Fallout 3 dammit.

      5 of 50 achievements! Yeesh!

    9. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

          The question then becomes, which is real information, and which is disinformation. :)

          More than half of what I put online is disinformation. Anyone profiling me knows that I live in New York, California, Florida, Alaska, and Iceland. Well, except when I'm not there, then I'm anywhere else.

          My entire online presence is a well choreographed illusion, with a myriad of aliases and other disinformation. I'm always entertained when someone finds another alias for me. Sometimes I'm surprised when they pop up with an alias that I hadn't used in decades.

          If someone were to stumble onto my real identity, they may as well be searching for "John Smith", as there are thousands of people with my name world wide, with varying levels of expertise. There are several that work in similar fields, so I am surprised that I haven't encountered at least one of them in real life yet.

          I thought of retaining the attorney with my name, and becoming a patient with the doctor with my name, just to keep things really interesting.

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    10. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by BikeHelmet · · Score: 4, Informative

      My main issue (Firefox 3.6) was I couldn't get rid of the damn thing, or change images. Clicking "Change Background Image" did nothing. Clicking their main link which was supposed to tell me more about it, took me right back to the homepage. Useless.

      It might've been okay if they had put a faded pillar in the center of the screen, so all the text didn't get washed out. Oh, and had options that did something.

    11. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by Flipao · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Funnily enough email addresses with the word spam on them get no spam at all, the word is stripped by pretty much every sniffer out there :)

    12. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you may or may not be:

      JW SMYTHE
      INDIVIDUAL
      809 E. BLOOMINGDALE AVE.
      PMB 288
      BRANDON
      33511-8113
      US
      Tel: 1.8135551212
      Fax: 1.8136894328
      Email: JWSMYTHE@JWSMYTHE.COM

    13. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by Peach+Rings · · Score: 1

      Or when you use a browser less than 10 years old. Honestly, who ever actually visits the google homepage to do a search?
      It's a shame too, cause my google background is awesome.

    14. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by nschubach · · Score: 1

      I almost exclusively go to the homepage to search... even on my droid that has a search bar widget.

      Not sure what it is, but I don't like the search boxes in browsers or the widget. I even removed the desktop search that my company installed in XP because I prefer to click on Start->Search. I also dislike the new Win Vista/7 start menu search... it loses context in my mind. You can never be really sure what it is your searching and that bothers me. I actually like going to a specific folder, right clicking and searching for what I want.

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    15. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by msauve · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't have seen it anyway. I use Opera, and never go to the Google home page (unless it's to see what the logo-of-the-day is). "g searchterm" in the address bar, and straight to the Google results.

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    16. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by rolfwind · · Score: 2, Interesting

      But when you send anything under such an email address, would it get through any spam filters?

    17. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

          It should be a clue from the telephone number. Another number I use a lot is 212 555 1212. :)

          The address is an arbitrary mail drop. Try mailing me a letter. It'll get returned by the folks there, that have never heard of me.

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    18. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by thrawn_aj · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Besides, anyone (with a paranoid brain) could have deduced it from your /. uid =]

    19. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by Grishnakh · · Score: 4, Informative

      Going to the homepage to search is very useful since you can now use https://www.google.com./ That way, if someone is sniffing your connection to see what you're googling (such as your employer), they won't be able to see.

    20. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i had no probs changing image in Firefox 3.6.3 on linux

    21. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Riiiight. Tell that to my @spamgourmet.com account.

    22. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by nschubach · · Score: 0

      The only way that matters is if you are sniffing only url requests... even post bodies are in plain text unless the page uses https and it's not that much tougher to get the post content.

      Besides, Google passes your search as a url even if you go to the homepage. In your scenario, sniffing remote port 80 will nab you everything you need to know whether it's from the search bar or the Google home page so it doesn't matter.

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    23. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by nschubach · · Score: 1

      Der... sorry, I didn't see you were using https. Disregard my post for failure to read.

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    24. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by Peach+Rings · · Score: 1

      If you use an OpenSearch compatible browser (Firefox and IE7 are two I know) then you can just open the xml file for Google search and change it to https. It's in your .mozilla/firefox

    25. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      absolutely not true... I have a comcast address ending in xxxspam@comcast.net and I get tons of spam... i dont even bother checking it anymore. Just got my gmail address which seems to be 100% accurate at removing spam so far.

    26. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by stonewallred · · Score: 1

      I saw it on FF and ended up just switching homepage to advanced search. Opera users were lucky to have missed it.

    27. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by Zen+Hash · · Score: 2

      It should be a clue from the telephone number. Another number I use a lot is 212 555 1212. :)

      The address is an arbitrary mail drop. Try mailing me a letter. It'll get returned by the folks there, that have never heard of me.

      Then what prevents you from losing your domain if someone were to report it for having inaccurate contact info? Yeah, it's rare. Although, you did just draw attention to it in a very popular public forum where many assholes are known to frequent...

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    28. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by hansamurai · · Score: 2

      Did you have noscript on? You needed to enable something like gmodules.com to make it work.

    29. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by Captain+Spam · · Score: 1

      Funnily enough email addresses with the word spam on them get no spam at all , the word is stripped by pretty much every sniffer out there :)

      /me checks his SpamAssassin logs

      Pfft. Says you.

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    30. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by Dragoniz3r · · Score: 1

      You are searching the Internet. I'm not sure what context is lost by using the search box instead of navigating to google.com. I can understand your point about the Windows search, but the Internet doesn't have subdirectories, and you don't have a working folder in it.

    31. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by nschubach · · Score: 1

      Sure, but I guess it feels like searching the page I'm on rather than the Internet.

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    32. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Strange, because I was getting the option in elinks, not that it would have helped.

    33. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That won't help: you have to delete the (unencrypted) suggestion url tag as well.

    34. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Just got my gmail address which seems to be 100% accurate at removing spam so far.

      It's really remarkable, isn't it? Does Google sell it's spam filter by any chance?

      I've got gmail addresses going way back and I don't get more than half a dozen spam messages in my Inbox a year.

      Now, my Spam mailbox fills up really fast, and I've never seen a false positive.

      Maybe I'm just lucky, but this is spam protection I'd be willing to pay for (but please don't tell Google).

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    35. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by JWSmythe · · Score: 0

          I could go and change my information, and then select the privacy setting, so all you'll see is the provider's info. :)

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    36. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by Like2Byte · · Score: 1, Interesting

      What blew my mind about this issue is this thought I had: "Why would Google want to imitate Bing?"

      I use Google precisely because they're not Microsoft.

      Microsoft should aspire to be more like Google. The day Google aspires to be more like Microsoft is the day I look for another search provider.

    37. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by couchslug · · Score: 1

      I used the Mozilla Firefox Google search page instead, which got rid of the stupid backgrounds (may whoever chose to run them die of crotch rot).

      I also posted that solution as an answer anywhere I got the opportunity. Might as well promote Firefox while people are suffering in IE. :)

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    38. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by Hadlock · · Score: 1

      My email gets routed through gmail for this exact reason. I typically get 1-2 pieces of spam a day (due to a hijacked mailing list I was on) but otherwise it's just about the best anti-spam you can get, a real pleasure to work with.

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    39. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by jonadab · · Score: 1

      > ...But of course this means that people with ancient
      > versions of IE didn't have to see it also...

      I always browse with page colors (all colors and backgrounds specified by the web page) disabled (in favor of my system colors, #FFE6BC foreground on #294D4A background). I've been doing that since it became an option sometime in the nineties. It's the only way to browse, as far as I'm concerned. The average webmaster has such terrible taste in colors, and then as if that weren't bad enough so many sites want to give you a blindingly bright background, usually white, I guess because they want to pretend the screen is paper or something. Ugh, talk about eye fatigue. No thanks.

      The only time I turn on page colors is when I'm testing stylesheets for my own web content.

      Do I even want to know what the background in question looked like? I bet I don't. In fact, here's me explicitly *not* even asking. Whatever it was, I'm glad I missed it.

      I also don't happen to know what colors Slashdot is using these days. Sometimes ignorance really is bliss.

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    40. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by DarkEmpath · · Score: 1

      Seamonkey users were excluded, also, and there was much rejoicing.

      (Actually, I didn't mind what I saw on my colleague's work PC, but I still think Google shouldn't copy Bing, and Bing shouldn't copy Google. Choice is good, and choice disappears when the options are interchangeable.)

    41. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by Thinboy00 · · Score: 1

      Although I haven't been using Gmail for as long as you probably have, I got "false" positives on college email (when you're a H.S. student, you get a lot of crap from colleges). I personally was of the opinion that some of that email might be from a future school and that it would probably be best to save all of it (sometimes colleges put important things (e.g. (prospective) student ID numbers) in email or snail mail, once, and assume you received and saved it), though now that I know where I'm going I may reevaluate that decision.

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    42. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Worked for me with firefox 3.6

    43. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by Zen+Hash · · Score: 1

      I could go and change my information, and then select the privacy setting, so all you'll see is the provider's info. :)

      That's what I would do. Then if someone has a legitimate reason to contact the domain owner through whois information, the provider should pass the message along.

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    44. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by chromas · · Score: 2, Informative
      Right-click text field and select
      • Create Search (Opera)
      • Add a Keyword for this Search (Firefox)
      • Create Web Shortcut (Konqueror)
    45. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by CAIMLAS · · Score: 1

      Seriously? I wonder how you guys avoid gmail spam; I get a shitload of it. And no, I never signed up for anything with the account - I've largely used it for temporary "cloud" storage and very little actual email (not many people have the address).

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    46. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

          I guess I forgot the step where I wait patiently while the whois information updates. I hate this part.

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    47. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by perryizgr8 · · Score: 1

      don't you think your text is a bit too jaggy?? here's a comparison.

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    48. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by Larryish · · Score: 1

      I now own your domain.

      If you want it back, send me a naked picture of your mother.

    49. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by shiftless · · Score: 4, Funny

      Do I even want to know what the background in question looked like? I bet I don't. In fact, here's me explicitly *not* even asking. Whatever it was, I'm glad I missed it.

      It was some hot ass chick bent over a bike getting it from the biker. It's a good thing you missed it, it was pretty sinful.

    50. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by BikeHelmet · · Score: 1

      Cleartype is turned off for him. He either has a CRT, or superior vision.

    51. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by BikeHelmet · · Score: 1

      No I didn't. Sounds like at least a few people below had the same issue.

      I like the suggestion to use Firefox Start.

    52. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I now own your domain.

      If you want it back, send me a naked picture of your mother.

      Here's a picture I took of his mother last night: http://tinyurl.com/daves-mom

      Yeah, I bet you're jealous!

    53. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      On Linux?

    54. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by Jaruzel · · Score: 1

      Try as I might, I couldnt 'see' those colours. So I had to mock up a html file with dummy text. I am pleased to report that it is a nice pale yellow text on a dark cyan (teal?) background.

      http://www.weegeeks.com/upload/foo.html

      Very pleasing on the eye.

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    55. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funnily enough email addresses with the word spam on them get no spam at all, the word is stripped by pretty much every sniffer out there :)

      Personally, when I send out spam I always like to include the word 'spam' in the email, preferably the subject line, just for the avoidance of doubt. Damn those smart corporate filters.

    56. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by spidr_mnky · · Score: 1

      I was about to mention I've set this as my default search gizmo in both chromium and firefox. In firefox, I just dredged up the the line "keyword.URL" in about:config, and inserted the 's'. In chromium you just right click on the address bar and choose to "edit search engines".

    57. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by yoyhed · · Score: 1

      Not surprising, considering he's on XP and thus it's off by default.

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    58. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by JeffSpudrinski · · Score: 1

      I hadn't been this annoyed with Google since PacMan Day. At least this one didn't have animations and unexpected loud noises going off in the office.

      Stop screwing around with it, Google. While it's nice to have options, stop forcing them on us.

      Just my $0.02.

      -JJS

    59. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I see what you did there. Too bad for you I have a keylogger installed on your system. MUHAHAHA

      ~ sysadmin

    60. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by Tickety-boo · · Score: 1

      It's really remarkable, isn't it? Does Google sell it's spam filter by any chance?

      I think it is called Postini.

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    61. Re:Opera users didnt have a problem by DJRB · · Score: 1

      You can also install a new search engine plugin / search provider from the Mycroft Project: http://mycroft.mozdev.org/search-engines.html?name=google+ssl

  2. I still see the link by iamapizza · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The feature still seems to be available - so you can set an image if you want, but I guess they won't be providing you with one of their own picked images as a default.

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    1. Re:I still see the link by arthurpaliden · · Score: 1

      For me it never showed up all day.

    2. Re:I still see the link by Maniacal · · Score: 1

      Yep. When they first introduced it I set it to a picture of my twins when they were 1 day old. Since google is my home page at work I get to see them every time I crank open a new tab/browser session. I'll be keeping it.

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    3. Re:I still see the link by ackthpt · · Score: 1

      The feature still seems to be available - so you can set an image if you want, but I guess they won't be providing you with one of their own picked images as a default.

      It's nice to have it as an Opt-In, but it was forced upon users. That's what Microsoft have done so many times, which has resulted many a ground molar, it isn't a nice way to offer change. It effectively tells users, "F___ you, we're doing this and you're stuck with it."

      Google needs to remember one maxim of features: make them available and let users decide if they want to use it or not - this results often in the exclamation, "Neat!" It's the good way to roll out change and leaves users to sing your praises in the very best PR money can't buy - word of mouth.

      BTW, this is how Google became the company they did, rather than kicking people around and telling them to like it or lump it.

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    4. Re:I still see the link by sakdoctor · · Score: 5, Interesting

      "Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away"

      The google homepage was perfect, practically from it's inception, up to a few years ago.
      Recent experiments have made me switch from a search engine homepage, to the firefox search bar. Since the firefox bar is a list, it also encourages me to shop around for results.

    5. Re:I still see the link by commodore64_love · · Score: 1

      It's a royal pain in the ass for those of us using Laptops and dial-up. Even with image compression turned "on" the full page image was still 100 kilobytes or about a 20 second wait. Google's plain-white background is better.

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    6. Re:I still see the link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      but when there is nothing left to take away

      You don't happen to be a GNOME developer do you?

    7. Re:I still see the link by Sancho · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Google does this ALL THE TIME with various apps. They make changes to the interface--usually good--that the user has no way of undoing. It's when the changes are bad or distracting that there is a problem. For example, they made a change to the mobile version of Reader a while back which made it incredibly easy to accidentally hit the "sign out" link. It was a horrible design choice, and there was no way for users to fix it themselves. No going back to the old interface.

      That's the double-edged sword of web applications. Your users get automatic bug fixes, but they also get automatic upgrades to (possibly) inferior versions.

    8. Re:I still see the link by bobcat7677 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I second the above. When I started using Google so many years ago, it was more because the page was lean and loaded fast then how relevant the search results were. And the lean simple home page is 100% of the reason al my browsers and the browsers of most of the machines I have worked on over the years have been set to use google.com as their start page. The search results were something I grew to like over time. But even to this day, the lean, simple, search page is at least 50% of the reason I use Google search primarily. Even all the little links and the "iGoogle" thing have been annoying to me at times. I want a page as lean and fast as possible. If they are going to put a bunch of crap on there that makes the page go slow I might as well go use Bing or whatever...there is no longer the big advantage keeping me going back to google.

    9. Re:I still see the link by geekoid · · Score: 1

      When I play Civ IV, I laugh at the irony when that is said.

      According to that, there is much they can take away from Civ IV.

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    10. Re:I still see the link by jonadab · · Score: 1

      > Recent experiments have made me switch from a search
      > engine homepage, to the firefox search bar

      I do virtually all of my searching with bookmark keywords. It's faster than messing around with the search drop-down list. You just use the location bar and prepend a couple of extra characters to your search terms and Bob is your uncle -- you go straight to the search results.

      You can also do things other than search with it. For example, I have the keyword wp set up to take me straight to English-language Wikipedia articles, skipping the search entirely, when I type wp followed by a space and the article title in the location bar. Similarly, I have a keyword that takes me straight to the w3schools reference page for any given XHTML element.

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    11. Re:I still see the link by Skreems · · Score: 1

      The page first loads the search box, and nothing else. Everything else is added via AJAX after the fact, and if you're fast enough you can type a search and submit it before the other decorations ever come down.

      And by everything, I mean literally everything. None of the header links, none of the "About Google" or "Advertising Solutions" links under the search box, nothing is in the first page but a search box, two buttons, and enough javascript to get the rest to you eventually.

      Complain about ugly if you like (I actually enjoy the Dale Chihuly background), but slow it definitely isn't.

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    12. Re:I still see the link by Hatta · · Score: 1

      Try Yakuake and surfraw sometime. Set it up so you launch firefox with -new-tab and Alice is your aunt.

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    13. Re:I still see the link by starblazer · · Score: 1

      Google learned from Altavista way back when. Some users like simplicity. Give them too much choice and they will get annoyed. I know that this crowd remembers the version of Altavista when DEC ran it and what happened when Compaq bought them out. The homepage turned into a hodgepodge like yahoo and loaded slow due to it being on dialup.

      Of course, when that happened, about:blank became my homepage. Once Google came around, it got set as my homepage and has stayed there.

    14. Re:I still see the link by martin-boundary · · Score: 1

      I prefer to have it launch w3m directly in the terminal, as surfraw integrates so well with bash. The only other thing I do is have a bash function which looks at the input to see if it starts with http:/// in which case it prepends w3m to the command before executing. Lets me cut and paste URLs directly into a terminal :)

    15. Re:I still see the link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can still use the Firefox branded home page: http://www.google.com/firefox

      It uses the old-style basic search screen plus donates to Mozilla when you use it.

    16. Re:I still see the link by Halborr · · Score: 1

      That's done on mouse movement. The page can sit indefinitely in minimalistic bliss if you want it to.

    17. Re:I still see the link by Daniel+Phillips · · Score: 1

      It's nice to have it as an Opt-In, but it was forced upon users.

      So was the sidebar, which I also hate but not to quite the same extent. Adds up to one thing: arrogance, and by that I mean the arrogance of presuming to know what users want without... say, asking some or maybe... a limited rollout... or maybe an "I love/hate this new idea" button? Or maybe just remember the promises that were repeatedly made not to clutter the homepage (which the sidebar already does).

      The leap from "forget one promise" to "forget them all" is an easy one indeed.

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    18. Re:I still see the link by Skreems · · Score: 1

      Sure, but it's already been streamed down behind the scenes, it just isn't faded in until you move the mouse.

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    19. Re:I still see the link by BikeHelmet · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The page first loads the search box, and nothing else. Everything else is added via AJAX after the fact, and if you're fast enough you can type a search and submit it before the other decorations ever come down.

      Not true! The way they implemented the backgrounds, they come in near instantly.

      I really noticed it, because I was folding yesterday. It took almost 8 seconds for those bloody things to fade into view.

      I'd be quite happy to never see the "Change background image" option again.

    20. Re:I still see the link by MrCrassic · · Score: 1

      I must be one of the few that LOVED the background images on Bing. They were especially pleasing to look at during the Winter Olympics; some of the shots they had were gold.

      Thus, it goes without saying that I was pleased when I saw that Google went the same direction. Then again, lots of people just want to search, just like lots of people just want their morning coffee without the small talk.

    21. Re:I still see the link by ProfanityHead · · Score: 1

      The feature still seems to be available - so you can set an image if you want, but I guess they won't be providing you with one of their own picked images as a default.

      It's been available for several weeks.

  3. Thanks god. by Cornwallis · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Now if only they'd get rid of that awful text fading in. What's that about?

    1. Re:Thanks god. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Now if only they'd get rid of that awful text fading in. What's that about?

      So stop running their JavaScript by default. NoScript works well for this purpose. Google.com works perfectly well without JS of any kind. If you use Gmail you'll need to allow JS from gmail.com but as gmail.com != google.com you can be selective here.

    2. Re:Thanks god. by DriedClexler · · Score: 3, Funny

      What text fading? I don't see any text fading. You must have done something wrong. Especially if you wouldn't even know how to modify that feature. [/typical enthusiast forum response]

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    3. Re:Thanks god. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      NoScript addon for firefox will disable that and the background. First thing I did when I saw that mess.

    4. Re:Thanks god. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know, but I want it gone as well. I can handle all the bars and links being there and I can handle them being gone, but the "I'm a clean page"..."SIKE!" is really obnoxious. I know about using Noscript on it, but I don't want to blacklist the largest page on the internet just to search in peace.

    5. Re:Thanks god. by Kev92486 · · Score: 1

      I imagine it's to put an emphasis on the other portions of the site besides the search bar/logo. Either way, avoiding it is one of the many benefits of running NoScript.

    6. Re:Thanks god. by Ksevio · · Score: 1

      That's not a bad feature actually. It makes it easy to quickly see the search bar where you can type in your search. That's what the page is for after all.

    7. Re:Thanks god. by thms · · Score: 4, Informative

      It is a reference to their early days. Back when Altavista & Co. were the dominant search engines they had incredibly cluttered interfaces, they were more like web portals.

      Then Google came along with just a logo, an input field and two buttons. And of course an awesome search algorithm. Not showing the inevitable clutter that has crept in for the first few seconds is their way of having and eating the purity cake.

    8. Re:Thanks god. by BikeHelmet · · Score: 1

      The fadein is to present a simplistic uncluttered style. It happens when you move the mouse.

      If you use Google as a homepage, opening a new Window/Tab and typing something in the box means you'll never encounter the fadein.

    9. Re:Thanks god. by Korbeau · · Score: 3, Insightful

      My guess about this one is that they don't want you to notice that you are almost always "logged in" into Google search if, for instance, you have a Youtube or Gmail account. With the fade-in, you don't really notice the "log out" option in the top-right corner.

      I remember being very surprised to see that I was always searching in "authenticated" mode because I told Gmail to keep me logged in (btw, the option is checked by default so probably most users are).

      I find it very frustrating that they decided to link all the accounts like this. I want to keep my search separated from my Youtube views/comments separated from my mail.

      (of course: they can still deduce who you are without being officially authenticated, but that's another story)

    10. Re:Thanks god. by Radish03 · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's not necessarily hidden for just the first few seconds. It's based on mouse movement. If you mouse over the page, the text fades in. If you just open the site, the search box has an active cursor, so you type your query, hit enter, and you're off without ever seeing any of the clutter they've added.

    11. Re:Thanks god. by WeatherServo9 · · Score: 1

      That's not a bad feature actually. It makes it easy to quickly see the search bar where you can type in your search. That's what the page is for after all.

      Perhaps true, but if they can't design the page to make that clear and obvious without a fade in then that's pretty bad.

    12. Re:Thanks god. by AdamThor · · Score: 1

      Not showing the inevitable clutter that has crept in for the first few seconds is their way of having and eating the purity cake.

      I think you lose purity points for eating it though.

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    13. Re:Thanks god. by Xian97 · · Score: 1

      I would like to see the test fade be an option you could disable in Google. Sure, there are ways to stop it using an extension or disabling javascipt, but it should just be a simple want/do not want in their Search Options page.

    14. Re:Thanks god. by leptons · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Too many cooks in the web2.0 kitchen. I agree it is a lame feature. it only frustrates me when i want to go immediately to maps or images, but i have to wait for that stupid f$@#*ing fade-in. I'm a web developer, and I ABSOLUTELY HATE the way so many interfaces in the world these days hide information by default, like microsoft hiding their menus until you press the ALT key.. whoever thought that up should have their computing privleges revoked. Important menus should never be hidden by default. Google could have faded those menu elements in from a lighter text color instead of hiding them completely - that way they would not distract from whatever they want users to focus on, but they also wouldn't be hidden from people who just want to get to maps or images or any of the other tools in their menu.

    15. Re:Thanks god. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Following your cake analogy, I suppose displaying all that clutter after a few seconds must be Google's way of regurgitating said cake. Does this mean Google is bulimic?

    16. Re:Thanks god. by Threni · · Score: 1

      You'd have to be an idiot to go to Google.com and not see the search bar, and instead be confused by the writing up in the top corner of the screen.

      I was confused when they introduced it - I was waiting for it to `load up`, but it was waiting for me to move my mouse. Why was I expected to understand that to make text appear I have to move the mouse? It never happens that way anywhere else. Why don't they put a cookie on the page so that after having been to that page 10 times or so they assume I've figured out where the search bar is?

    17. Re:Thanks god. by Ksevio · · Score: 1

      They did that, but they also wanted to make it even more clear when you first load the page, and at the same time have a page with other links and information for people that might want to look for other stuff.

    18. Re:Thanks god. by ClioCJS · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's not that they can't design -- The page could barely be any clearer than it is. It's that they have to compensate for the stupidest human beings on planet earth. And, in that sense, it's a really good feature.

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    19. Re:Thanks god. by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 3, Insightful

      the clutter they have added is remaining logged in and making it difficult to tell at a glance.

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    20. Re:Thanks god. by ultranova · · Score: 1

      I remember being very surprised to see that I was always searching in "authenticated" mode because I told Gmail to keep me logged in (btw, the option is checked by default so probably most users are).

      Except those of us who set our browsers to delete all cookies at startup to make us harder to track :).

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    21. Re:Thanks god. by quantumplacet · · Score: 4, Informative

      except once you log into gmail.com you wind up in mail.google.com, and all the scripts for gmail are served up from that domain.

    22. Re:Thanks god. by Tim+C · · Score: 1

      I want to keep my search separated from my Youtube views/comments separated from my mail.

      So use different search and email providers. This is what happens when you use one company for multiple online services; those services tend to interconnect. It's all valuable data for them.

    23. Re:Thanks god. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, when I go on google.com, it's for the purpose of having those links offered (e.g. image search - that has an infamous adress - or zeitgeist). For a regular search, my browser is kind enough to provide me with a search bar, so I only seeing those fading in when they actually delay me from going where I want.

    24. Re:Thanks god. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      NoScript: now you can browse like it's 1999!

    25. Re:Thanks god. by Ksevio · · Score: 1

      Even though you know where something is, doesn't mean you can't make it easier to find it. There are lots of ways to increase the ease of usage for a page even for experienced users.

    26. Re:Thanks god. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You missed the search bar on the Google homepage :/ ?

    27. Re:Thanks god. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      so add mail.google.com to the whitelist. that was hard!

    28. Re:Thanks god. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For the first few years, Alta Vista had as much clutter as Google does.

    29. Re:Thanks god. by bonch · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why the hell should a user have to bother with this?

    30. Re:Thanks god. by 2short · · Score: 1

      Here's a chrome plugin that does kills the fade-in in a narrowly targeted way:

      https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/bedfjgembbfbbdbajgfjlgfkbgmbnpnf

    31. Re:Thanks god. by 2short · · Score: 1

      Different people have different usage patterns. I hit my browser home button, and I sit there for a few seconds like an idiot waiting for the Gmail or News links to appear. Then my brain wakes up, I shake the mouse about a bitr. A big deal? No. Could I change my usage pattern in about a hundred ways? Sure. But it's awfully annoying to get tripped up in the midst of a nigh-automatic pattern like that several times a day. And for what? I've heard they don't want to distract from the search bar, which doesn't sound like all that big a threat to me.

      But in any case, there is a person who thought the "visual clutter" of a couple plain-text links at the edge of the page was an overwhelming problem that needed to be dealt with via the fade-in. Apparently they work on the same team with someone who thought a full-page background image of neon-painted piggy-banks was what I needed. Could we maybe lock them in a room together, so they can each save us the trouble of bitch-slapping the other? Seriously, did both of these ideas get sold to the same decision maker?

    32. Re:Thanks god. by 2short · · Score: 1

      And if you years ago set your home page to google.com, you can get totally used to getting to Gmail or News by clicking home, then the link that will show up a few pixel below the home button you just clicked as soon as the page loads. But it won't until your brain wakes up and remembers you have to do an extra mouse-wiggle in the middle now. And you haven't had coffee, so it will be a little while. Sigh.

    33. Re:Thanks god. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and.... you can allow mail.google.com without permitting any other part of the google.com domain to run scripts. Whats the problem?

    34. Re:Thanks god. by 2short · · Score: 1

      Of course, if you use Chrome, as we expect Google might approve of, the address bar will do a search. So the links are the whole point of using Google as a homepage. So you hit that home button specifically to get them, but you don't because your mouse is over the button, not the page.

    35. Re:Thanks god. by DragonWriter · · Score: 1

      Here's a chrome plugin that does kills the fade-in in a narrowly targeted way:

      Of course, in Chrome the address bar by default works almost exactly like the search box on the Google homepage, so there's no real need to use the Google homepage on Chrome.

    36. Re:Thanks god. by jon3k · · Score: 1

      The idea is to immediately draw your attention to the search box. Once you've noticed that the rest of the elements fade in as not to detract from the central focus. The content doesn't even fade in until you move your mouse (I believe) so they're sure the user has already seen the important section before fading in the rest. There was an article about it at one point.

    37. Re:Thanks god. by 2short · · Score: 1

      Right, if you use Googles browser, and set Google as your home page, you must be doing it specifically to quickly get the links to Googles Mail and News.

          Which don't show up, because your mouse is over the home button, not the page.

      So yes, the fade in is really extra-stupid for Chrome users. :)

    38. Re:Thanks god. by srjh · · Score: 1

      No idea why they introduced fading-in text, but there's a greasemonkey script to remove it:

      http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/63436

      As for the background images, even if it's an obvious attempt to emulate bing and a shift away from the minimalism that drew most to Google, it wouldn't have been too bad if they didn't screw it up so badly.

      The closest you could come to opting out was selecting an all-white background, but because the text was white with a grey shadow, that didn't work too well either. While most backgrounds were pretty pictures, they made dreadful backgrounds -- conspicuous, blending badly with the text, slow to load (relative to the very simple white background).

      A simple "remove background" would have sufficed, but even without it a little usability testing of the backgrounds they actually used wouldn't have hurt.

    39. Re:Thanks god. by martin-boundary · · Score: 1

      Yeah that's a pretty stupid idea. Some of us have focus-follows-mouse enabled, so the only way to actually type anything into the box is to move the mouse into the page, and then you automatically get that fade-in crap.

    40. Re:Thanks god. by SpeZek · · Score: 1

      So why not have iGoogle as your homepage, and have the most recent news and your gmail right on it?

    41. Re:Thanks god. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "And of course an awesome search algorithm."

      That's d -b t -b l.

    42. Re:Thanks god. by fortapocalypse · · Score: 1

      Now if only they'd get rid of that awful text fading in. What's that about?

      Totally agreed. I wish they would take a survey of all of their new surprise features so people could thumbs up or down them. It's amazing how so many smart people can't understand the importance of allowing people to provide feedback on their homepage. Whoever the idiot is fronting the homepage for the last few years needs to be tanked, imo.

    43. Re:Thanks god. by fortapocalypse · · Score: 1

      It's not necessarily hidden for just the first few seconds. It's based on mouse movement. If you mouse over the page, the text fades in. If you just open the site, the search box has an active cursor, so you type your query, hit enter, and you're off without ever seeing any of the clutter they've added.

      BTW- you can make the text stay their constantly by altering the user-agent.

    44. Re:Thanks god. by Platypii · · Score: 1

      If their goal was to keep the page uncluttered and focused on search, they definitely failed!

      The problem is that once the fade-in begins, the user's eyes are instantly and involuntarily drawn to the motion of the fade. This is terribly distracting when trying to do a quick search!

    45. Re:Thanks god. by Larryish · · Score: 1

      Not true.

      I have a Gmail account and and every time I search for "turd sandwich" on YouTube I get that lame "Log in to view this adult content" screen.

    46. Re:Thanks god. by BikeHelmet · · Score: 1

      That's why you setup one account for each, and tell them all to remember password & auto-login!

      None of them linked - except by IP in Google's logs, and by cookie on your computer.

    47. Re:Thanks god. by soegoe · · Score: 1

      So what? Block google.com with NoScript, add mail.google.com (and, while you're at it, maps.google.com) to your whitelist, et voila.

    48. Re:Thanks god. by thisisntme · · Score: 1

      so just whitelist mail.google.com

    49. Re:Thanks god. by timbos · · Score: 1

      If you start typing immediately (the textfield has focus when the homepage loads), rather than moving your mouse, the fade doesn't happen. It's only when you move your mouse that the rest of the UI appears.

    50. Re:Thanks god. by creepynut · · Score: 1

      Gmail works perfectly fine without JS too, it's just not as "rich"

    51. Re:Thanks god. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the "keep me logged in" is not the default option in may case.

    52. Re:Thanks god. by tokul · · Score: 1

      If you use Gmail you'll need to allow JS from gmail.com.

      No, you don't. gmail can work without JS and Flash.

    53. Re:Thanks god. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      However the clutter is really bad now when using lynx.

    54. Re:Thanks god. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's been a lot of improvements in general web browsing and development other than horrible JavaScript. If I was browsing like it was 1999 then half the sites would be plain-text laid out with tables.

  4. There is a reason... by Darkness404 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There is a reason why few people use Bing, Yahoo!, Live, Ask, etc. if Google wants to branch out in different directions, do it under a different banner other than Google search.

    People like the way Google is/was, if they didn't, there would be a flood of people going to Bing, Yahoo!, Ask, and all the other search engines. Because there isn't, you can pretty easily realize that people like the way Google is.

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    1. Re:There is a reason... by quantumplacet · · Score: 5, Interesting

      That's a pretty false dichotomy. Yes, the majority of people do seem to like Google better than they like Bing, Yahoo etc. But that doesn't mean all those people think everything Google does is perfect and they never want anything changed or have any new features added. Ultimately, if Google took your advice and search development became completely stagnant, then eventually the other search providers would improve over time and overtake Google.

    2. Re:There is a reason... by Darkness404 · · Score: 1

      But this wasn't a new "feature" it was purely an aesthetic look. You are going to get pretty similar search results with Bing, Yahoo, Google, Live, etc. lately but its mostly the look and feel that is different. Of course, there is some difference in search results put its generally so minimal you can find the same site within a few pages on Google, Yahoo, Bing, etc on the same search term.

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    3. Re:There is a reason... by quantumplacet · · Score: 1

      You're kind of contradicting yourself here. You say that search results are all the same, people pick their search engine based on aesthetics (which I strongly disagree with) but then you also say that a change in aesthetics is not a new feature.

      That aside, I definitely don't think Google should force a background image on their users, but it is a nice choice to have. Turning it on by default probably wasn't the best way to promote it, although it did make everyone aware of it's existence and I highly doubt it cost them any customers, so maybe I'm wrong.

    4. Re:There is a reason... by EvanED · · Score: 1

      There is a reason why few people use Bing, Yahoo!, Live, Ask, etc.

      Yes, it's because Google's search engine is better. I kind of like the background images; a lot of them are really nice.

      Of course, I basically never even go to a search engine's front page anyway (searching from the address bar), so it doesn't matter so much.

    5. Re:There is a reason... by lgw · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Put it this way: today's experiment was New Coke. When you're the number 1 brand, it's stupid to make your product taste more like the number 2 brand. I'm baffled why Google even tried this.

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    6. Re:There is a reason... by Grishnakh · · Score: 2, Interesting

      While I do like Google, it's impossible to say whether Google remains dominant because people really do prefer it over the alternatives, or simply because it's dominant and people either 1) don't know about the alternatives, or 2) assume that Google's search results will be the best because it's dominant.

      It's a bit like Microsoft's desktop monopoly. They certainly don't have 90+% marketshare because they're far-and-away better than everything else out there.

      It's in Google's best interest to make sure that they continue to do the things that people want them to, so they stay popular and dominant, and don't get overtaken by someone else by surprise.

      Even if most people really did think that Google's search results were the best, that doesn't necessarily mean they prefer its minimalist home page. Of course, after this experiment, it looks like Google can conclude they really did prefer it, but before this, they didn't know.

    7. Re:There is a reason... by oakgrove · · Score: 1

      While I do like Google, it's impossible to say whether Google remains dominant because people really do prefer it over the alternatives, or simply because it's dominant and people either 1) don't know about the alternatives, or 2) assume that Google's search results will be the best because it's dominant.

      When people go and buy a new computer, what is the default search engine on the vast majority of them? When people update IE (a browser with ~60 percent market share), what is the search engine that it asks you if you'd like to use? Seeing as most computer users have done one or both of these things, I'd say that a) they're definitely aware that there is something else and b) despite this, they use Google anyway.

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    8. Re:There is a reason... by bonch · · Score: 1

      There is a reason why few people use Bing, Yahoo!, Live, Ask, etc.

      But you don't have any proof that it's Google's stark white background

    9. Re:There is a reason... by interval1066 · · Score: 1

      "You are going to get pretty similar search results with Bing, Yahoo, Google, Live..."

      Speak for yourself, White Man. The only thing that even comes close to a google query result set is bing, even then I pretty much use google exclusively; opting for bing if a google search just fails to get me what I'm looking for, as a sort of back up. Even then bing rarely works as well for me as google does. BTW; I keep a link to https://google.com/ on my google page, which works quickly and awesomely if I don't feel like dealing with new features or all the gadgets I have polluting my iGoogle page, whatever.

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    10. Re:There is a reason... by geekoid · · Score: 1

      I pretty sure pretty much everyone knows of Yahoo! and Bing.
      Hell, I heard an Ask Jeeves reference on TV the other day.

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    11. Re:There is a reason... by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      Yes, I agree it's not quite like MS's practices, where they control the software on most people's computers.

      However, Google has huge brand recognition, so much so that it's now a verb: "googling" is synonymous with searching for something on the internet. So it may very well be a case of people assuming that "the biggest/most popular is the best". Seriously, how many people really do multiple identical searches on Google, Bing, Yahoo, Ask, Altavista (or whatever other search engines are out there), and conclude from the search results that Google's results are the best quality?

      Since Google has the brand recognition, many people could very well just use them by default, because everyone else they know uses it too, not because they've actually tried and analyzed the alternatives. Lots of people use MS on the desktop just because it's dominant and "everyone else uses it", but this doesn't mean they're going to use everything that MS shovels them. People are used to using different brands for different things: MS for operating systems and Office, Google for searching, Kleenex for tissues, Ford for trucks, etc. (Note that I don't personally endorse any of these brands, except Google for search.) But just because a brand dominates one thing doesn't mean its fans automatically use it for other things. Lots of Ford truck fans think their trucks are great, but their cars suck. Lots of people think MS Office and Windows are great, but think that Zune sucks. Lots of people think Apple's iPods are great, but have zero interest in a Mac computer. Heck, lots of people think iPods are great but complain bitterly about iTunes. Lots of people think PhotoShop is great, but think Adobe Reader is bloated crap.

      My point is, many people don't automatically just use whatever is presented to them just because it's easier. They frequently will seek out the top brand in some market and use that, just because it's the most popular.

    12. Re:There is a reason... by cavefrog · · Score: 1

      Put it this way: today's experiment was New Coke. When you're the number 1 brand, it's stupid to make your product taste more like the number 2 brand. I'm baffled why Google even tried this.

      So they could switch the sugar in their search page with high fructose corn syrup without anyone noticing?

    13. Re:There is a reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i realize you're going for comedy, but that's a myth, the switch to corn syrup predates the introduction of New Coke.

    14. Re:There is a reason... by Chess+Piece+Face · · Score: 1

      "taste more like the number 2 brand"

      You have to try the shitty soup!

    15. Re:There is a reason... by indiechild · · Score: 1

      The Google search interface in its essential form adopts a very similar philosophy to Apple's. It just works. As soon as you start adding extra crap on top of it, then you become just like the many other mugs who think adding lots of extra features makes your product better (it usually doesn't).

    16. Re:There is a reason... by neoform · · Score: 1

      Why did facebook implement twitter like status updates a year ago?

      Preemptive strike.

      In this case, it was a stupid feature, but that doesn't mean bing can't come up with something google will want to copy..

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    17. Re:There is a reason... by fatwilbur · · Score: 1

      Take the anecdotal evidence for what it's worth, but I was surprised to hear both my parents (very non-tech savvy) had switched to using Bing. For no other reason that they liked the changing pretty picture every day. Personally, I think Google's search results are slightly better, but likely not noticeable to your avergae user.

      The most popular sites are the most popular sites... most search engines return the same top 10 results nowadays (Wikipedia, etc.).

    18. Re:There is a reason... by fredrik70 · · Score: 1

      considering the sales of classic coke went sky-high after the new coke experiment, I can fully understand why google did it.

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    19. Re:There is a reason... by Godai · · Score: 1

      That's pretty narrow-minded. Yes, this was a flop, but are you really saying that anything that Bing comes up with is automatically a terrible idea to add to Google just because of where it originated? If Bing added a killer feature, Google should ignore it because it would 'make number 1 more like number 2'?

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  5. Microsoft Responds by eihab · · Score: 4, Funny

    There were also a couple of snarky tweets from Microsoft regarding the "bing-style" backgrounds.

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    1. Re:Microsoft Responds by eihab · · Score: 1

      Ops. The second link should have been this status message instead of their twitter page.

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    2. Re:Microsoft Responds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wonder what their snarky response will be to realizing that everyone hates their background images?

      Also, unsurprising to see that even Microsoft uses Google to search ;)

    3. Re:Microsoft Responds by tiptone · · Score: 1

      I've never done a Bing! search to know that it came from there. I did however set mine to a little plant growing out of a rock above the water the first time I saw the option. Still there for me, and I like it. :P

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    4. Re:Microsoft Responds by MozeeToby · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Haha, yeah, I'm sure MS if gloating about how Google copied them. On the other hand, the response to the 'Bing' flavored Google was overwhelmingly negative, which can't make them feel too good. Especially since a lot of the comments that I saw were along the lines of "If I wanted this crap I would go use Bing".

    5. Re:Microsoft Responds by hkmwbz · · Score: 1

      Also, unsurprising to see that even Microsoft uses Google to search ;)

      ...or they may in fact be paying attention to IT news, and keeping an eye on competitors.

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    6. Re:Microsoft Responds by GaratNW · · Score: 1

      Interestingly enough, may people who like Bing like this feature. In general, when I use Bing, I'm using it because it does tend to provide much more focused results. The fact that, if I'm curious, I can also see a cool picture with a number of interesting bits of information about that shot (be it something, somewhere, or somewhen) is just a nice "learning something outside of what I'm focused on" moment. Beauty and a moment to learn something is not something that send me into rage.

      I use Google and Bing almost equally now, but i use them for different types of searches. Given how much market share Bing has gained in such short time, your anecdotal "lot of the comments I saw were" observation just reads as hyperbole, rather than something that is a real plus or negative about a non-Google search engine.

      Mind you, Bing's market share is still tiny in comparison at about 11%, but it's the first time that an MS driven search engine has actually gained significant market share, helped by the fact that Bing is a really good search engine, whereas every other attempt they've ever done has been.. well, uhm.. Crap.

    7. Re:Microsoft Responds by jayme0227 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Bing is my primary search engine and I'm a huge fan of its background images, but there was something about Google's execution of the background image that just irked me. Whether it was the white Google lettering, the full screen image rather than just partial screen, or merely the fact that they were copying Microsoft, it seemed... off.

      I guess my point is that the background images being bad for Google doesn't necessarily mean that they're bad for search engines, but just that this particular execution wasn't good.

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    8. Re:Microsoft Responds by WraithCube · · Score: 1

      I'm not really sure when google first added this feature, but you have been able to add a background picture for awhile now. I'm just not sure if that feature was introduced before or after bing. However, up until today you had to be signed into google to see the background picture and had to find the options and customize your google homepage before.
      In fact the customized google homepage can add a lot of the different things you see on the yahoo homepage like news and weather, but with customization as to what you do and don't see. This seemed more like an attempt to promote an already existing feature of personalized google search. Though it is probably not a well liked feature, i would imagine. I stay away from it myself.

    9. Re:Microsoft Responds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Interestingly enough, may people who like Bing like this feature. In general, when I use Bing, I'm using it because it does tend to provide much more focused results. The fact that, if I'm curious, I can also see a cool picture with a number of interesting bits of information about that shot (be it something, somewhere, or somewhen) is just a nice "learning something outside of what I'm focused on" moment. Beauty and a moment to learn something is not something that send me into rage. I use Google and Bing almost equally now, but i use them for different types of searches. Given how much market share Bing has gained in such short time, your anecdotal "lot of the comments I saw were" observation just reads as hyperbole, rather than something that is a real plus or negative about a non-Google search engine. Mind you, Bing's market share is still tiny in comparison at about 11%, but it's the first time that an MS driven search engine has actually gained significant market share, helped by the fact that Bing is a really good search engine, whereas every other attempt they've ever done has been.. well, uhm.. Crap.

      And even more importantly, Bing is finally providing some competition and choice in a search market that was in clear danger of having none.

      Anyone who understands the insane investments in infrastructure and technology necessary to being competitive in search today understands that there is no longer an option for a garage outfit to just come up with something better, even if Google got lazy or started exploiting their monopoly. The barrier to entry is excluding all but a few of the biggest companies in tech/online. IBM could have the resources to try. Apple might be getting there, at least for their own closed ecosystem. Same for Facebook. But a general global search engine all-out competing with Google? Right now it looks like it is either Bing, or no competitor at all.

    10. Re:Microsoft Responds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, as we all know, the use of images as backgrounds was invented by Microsoft specifically for use with Bing.

    11. Re:Microsoft Responds by teh+moges · · Score: 1

      I love the mindset of the computing field, when a 'background image' is considered copying (not least on twitter, for which its a fairly standard thing).

    12. Re:Microsoft Responds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Honestly, it's not just that they copied Bing - they copied Bing and did a crappy job. Bing presents a high quality image of something interesting - and contextual links to more information if you want to learn more about it. Google just did backgrounds. They copied every-single-desktop-os-since-the-stone-age more than they copied Bing.

    13. Re:Microsoft Responds by BikeHelmet · · Score: 1

      Mind you, Bing's market share is still tiny in comparison at about 11%, but it's the first time that an MS driven search engine has actually gained significant market share, helped by the fact that Bing is a really good search engine, whereas every other attempt they've ever done has been.. well, uhm.. Crap.

      It's also helped by exclusive search deals that remove the option to use Google. [link]

      And changing the default search from Google to Bing silently with some updates. [link]

      I respect Google. They compete through innovation. Microsoft doesn't.

    14. Re:Microsoft Responds by Xest · · Score: 1

      I use Google but don't mind Bing's background images, I hated Google's however, why?

      Because Google's implementation looked horrendous, it made some text on their page unreadable. It was just outright crap. In contrast, Bing designs it's site with the images in mind so that text remains readable and the page doesn't look tacky.

      So Bing may well have images, but at least on Bing it works and looks fine, on Google is was just atrocious, like some 6 year old kid from the AOL days had built the page.

    15. Re:Microsoft Responds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess they don't allow a sense of humor over there at Microsoft, huh? Still butthurt that no one uses your Bing crap?

    16. Re:Microsoft Responds by hkmwbz · · Score: 1

      What on earth are you talking about?

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  6. Fire that marketroid! by seanadams.com · · Score: 5, Informative
    You might think a background image is nothing worth getting in a huge flap over, but let me explain why this experiment was so stupid.

    First, Google seems to have forgotten the early days of the search engine wars in which Yahoo, Excite, et al vied for the most user-hostile, craptacular portal landing pages. I believe it was primarily their choice of a minimal utilitarian design that made people flock to Google, and the quality of the search results, good as they were, was a distant secondary factor among typical users.

    Secondly, the actual execution of this feature was terrible. Not only were the images bright, garish, and distracting, but there was NO option to turn it off. Sure if you spent a few minutes digging you could find the "editor's choice" images, and if you scrolled all the way down to the bottom you could find white. But then if you picked that, you would get white text on a white background. Brilliant.

    Google has said in the past that they use an empirical, incremental approach to UI design where user actions are studied and these guide decisions down to the level of how many pixels to make a line or what font size to use. Some have rightly pointed out that this will cause you to get stuck on local maxima and you need to have a methodology that allows for some creative design. But forcing such a butt ugly intrusion on all users for the purposes of a trial is ridiculous. If they really wanted to do a trial they could have simply served this to, say, 1 in 10,000 users (based on IP+useragent hash, for example) and got the exact same information.

    No, this could only have been the brainchild of a marketroid who thought it would be necessary to "make a splash" and get some "buzz" going. Well congratulations, you got your feedback and the answer is a resounding "fuck off". Google has officially run out of ideas if this is the best they can come up with.

    1. Re:Fire that marketroid! by Culture20 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Google seems to have forgotten the early days of the search engine wars in which Yahoo, Excite, et al vied for the most user-hostile, craptacular portal landing pages. I believe it was primarily their choice of a minimal utilitarian design that made people flock to Google, and the quality of the search results, good as they were, was a distant secondary factor among typical users.
      [...]
      Google has officially run out of ideas if this is the best they can come up with.

      Good. Maybe without ideas they'll stagnate and, as a result, remain popular.

    2. Re:Fire that marketroid! by Thud457 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Google has said in the past that they use an empirical, incremental approach to UI design where user actions are studied and these guide decisions

      I have google set as my home page, and the first thing I did when I got to work was search for what is this shite, Bing?! So, google reverting to a lightweight UI -- that was my idea!

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    3. Re:Fire that marketroid! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey it worked for Coca Cola and Slurm

    4. Re:Fire that marketroid! by Linker3000 · · Score: 4, Informative

      ..Thirdly, on train with a laptop with a 3G dongle it was f*king awful-to-impossible to load and eat up my data allowance.

      The person or people at Google eho thought this was a good idea should be given a severe ass-kicking, with the video of the event posted on Youtube.

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    5. Re:Fire that marketroid! by ArbitraryDescriptor · · Score: 1

      Google seems to have forgotten the early days of the search engine wars in which Yahoo, Excite, et al vied for the most user-hostile, craptacular portal landing pages. I believe it was primarily their choice of a minimal utilitarian design that made people flock to Google, and the quality of the search results, good as they were, was a distant secondary factor among typical users.

      Which is why I a quite frustrated when I first saw iGoogle and thought it was their new look. They should have tested this on iGoogle; google.com is for people who don't want annoying bullshit on their search engine.

    6. Re:Fire that marketroid! by oh_my_080980980 · · Score: 1

      Damn fine post. Hopefully Google reads it.

    7. Re:Fire that marketroid! by somersault · · Score: 1

      Not only were the images bright, garish, and distracting, but there was NO option to turn it off.

      I use the address bar in Chrome for my searches so I rarely ever visit the Google homepage. So unfortunately I missed this. I think it looks pretty good (but even when I used Google I used iGoogle so I had a nice design on the page all the same).

      Anyway, in the screenshot that the guy posted above, it clearly says "Remove background image" in the bottom left.. how did you (and presumably millions of others who Googled "remove google background") miss that?

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    8. Re:Fire that marketroid! by Ben4jammin · · Score: 1

      Agreed. The increase of graphics, etc on msn.com put me in the habit of the first thing I do on a new windows machine is change the homepage to google. It loads quick, and doesn't make my eyes hurt or send me into an epileptic seizure.

    9. Re:Fire that marketroid! by Skater · · Score: 2, Informative

      First, Google seems to have forgotten the early days of the search engine wars in which Yahoo, Excite, et al vied for the most user-hostile, craptacular portal landing pages. I believe it was primarily their choice of a minimal utilitarian design that made people flock to Google, and the quality of the search results, good as they were, was a distant secondary factor among typical users.

      There were days earlier than that. Yahoo was the clean page - I remember someone showing it took just 7 seconds to load on a 56K modem or something like that. Google didn't even exist. Then the clutter began, and Google was the one with the clean page.

    10. Re:Fire that marketroid! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You had to log into Google (GMail) to set the background. Also, there was no "don't use background" option. How did you miss clicking it and seeing what was there?

    11. Re:Fire that marketroid! by Jeng · · Score: 1

      Hey Slurm is very honest and direct in their marketing.

      Slurm, it's highly addictive.

      As opposed to Coke, it's the real thing. Bah, if it was the real thing it would be highly addictive.

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    12. Re:Fire that marketroid! by scot4875 · · Score: 1

      That link just reverted it back to the default, impossible-to-read-over background image. It only showed up *after* you chose a different image.

      At least, that's all it did when I tried it about an hour ago.

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    13. Re:Fire that marketroid! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The 'Remove Google Background' link didn't seem to do anything when we all clicked on it ... unless you want to login to do a Google search.

    14. Re:Fire that marketroid! by h4rr4r · · Score: 1

      Maybe it was more about telling google this sucks than actually removing it?

    15. Re:Fire that marketroid! by NIN1385 · · Score: 1

      I couldn't have said it any better myself, I am sure I was not alone when I was swearing at their home page last night when i noticed this.

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    16. Re:Fire that marketroid! by brxndxn · · Score: 1

      I second the motion to 'Fire that marketroid!' If Google keeps the kind of idiots that think forcing visual garbage on all their users - whether personal or professional - is a good idea, they'll be the next big search engine to fail... no different than the others.

      However, I cannot believe this was unintentional. Google knows, especially by now, that dropping forced changes on their users makes them angry. Here is what I suspect..

      Google did this on purpose to gather more personal data from users. The site was set up to display a random background image. If you wanted to change the image, you had to create a Google account that asks for personal information. This would allow Google to put names to the IP addresses they track. For the people that use Gmail or other Google services, Google really does not receive any new data. However, Google only really cares about the discrete accumulation of identification data - so any new attachment of names to IP addresses is useful to them.

      Google will publicly treat this as a blunder.. but I wonder what their real intent was..

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    17. Re:Fire that marketroid! by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1

      As a side note, visual minimalism is a part of Google brand identity. White, uncluttered background is just as part of their logo in general, and overall distinctive feel of the search page in particular, as everything else. Changing it at this point is as silly as changing the name "Google" to something else.

      That said, I suspect it was rather a tongue-in-cheek joke at Bing's expense. I can't believe anyone at Google could possibly seriously think such a change would be positive for them.

    18. Re:Fire that marketroid! by BobMcD · · Score: 1

      Damn fine post. Hopefully Google reads it.

      Not going to happen, but their spiders have already crawled it.

    19. Re:Fire that marketroid! by lgw · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Yeah, they should make a 20MB video of that person getting an ass kicking the new default background on Google!

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    20. Re:Fire that marketroid! by hack++slash · · Score: 1

      As for Pepsi, they keep altering their logo every few years I don't know what their current logo is supposed to be!

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    21. Re:Fire that marketroid! by tomhath · · Score: 1

      I believe it was primarily their choice of a minimal utilitarian design that made people flock to Google,

      Most of what you say is true, but the reason people flocked to Google is because the search engine returned relevant results. All of the other search engines at the time were loaded down with paid rankings; after you searched for something the top results were always irrelevant crap sites that had paid for the top spots (and there was no indication of which were actual search results and which were paid). To their credit, I think most Google results are still unbiased, but there's reason to believe they manipulate some searches related to politics

    22. Re:Fire that marketroid! by simplesteps · · Score: 1
      > how did you (and presumably millions of others who Googled "remove google background") miss that?

      My google home page did NOT have the text "remove google background"... it read "change google background". I clicked the link and there was not an option to remove the background... just change it(presumably one could have changed it to blank/white).

    23. Re:Fire that marketroid! by wbo · · Score: 1

      They should have tested this on iGoogle; google.com is for people who don't want annoying bullshit on their search engine.

      They did test it with iGoogle first. iGoogle has had various background images and themes for as long as I can remember.

    24. Re:Fire that marketroid! by Sancho · · Score: 1

      Last night when I saw the hideously distracting background image, I searched for a way to remove it. There was no text that said "remove" on the page or in the source. I changed the background image, and suddenly the text appeared. So I clicked the text, and it reverted to the hideously distracting background image.

      The default image was only supposed to be there for a day, after which it would presumably only exist for users who decided to keep it. But for as long as that background image was there, you had to have an image--you couldn't have just the plain old Google page (unless you used https.)

    25. Re:Fire that marketroid! by dhavleak · · Score: 1

      Google seems to have forgotten the early days of the search engine wars in which Yahoo, Excite, et al vied for the most user-hostile, craptacular portal landing pages. I believe it was primarily their choice of a minimal utilitarian design that made people flock to Google

      It's possible that times have changed, and user preferences have changed. You're referencing a period roughly 15 to 12 years ago, when people were still using dial up connections at 33kbps. The utlitarian page had an insurmountable performance advantage at that time. Now, with an asynchronous loading image, and DSL/cable/fiber connections, you can afford to be less spartan in your approach.

    26. Re:Fire that marketroid! by geekoid · · Score: 1

      "I believe it was primarily their choice of a minimal utilitarian design

      I agree, but this was nothing like the old craptastic designs from yesteryear.

      " Not only were the images bright, garish,

      The image I got was not bright or garish. I didn't like it, but that as because I don't want an image, not because of the image itself.

      IT was just an experiment. They did it fine. The responded to the outcry in a very timely manner.

      I wonder if they're testing the ability for people to put their on images as the homepage?

      "No, this could only have been the brainchild of a marketroid who thought it would be necessary to "make a splash" and get some "buzz" going. Well congratulations, you got your feedback and the answer is a resounding "fuck off". Google has officially run out of ideas if this is the best they can come up with."

      Now you're just resorting to the strawman argument.

      Calm down Francis, and think.

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    27. Re:Fire that marketroid! by geekoid · · Score: 1

      Oh noes! you downloaded an extra meg. If that's a concern, maybe you should use a text browser?

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    28. Re:Fire that marketroid! by sootman · · Score: 1

      I believe it was primarily their choice of a minimal utilitarian design that made people flock to Google, and the quality of the search results, good as they were, was a distant secondary factor among typical users.

      I remember it the exact opposite way. Their search results were an order of magnitude better than anyone else's. Back then I had a two part search strategy: first, try Yahoo. They were usually pretty good but if it was an unusual term there might be very few results. If that happened, I'd go to AltaVista, which would produce tens of thousands of results no matter what you searched for (like they did nothing more than a plain text search, and maybe even an 'OR' one at that) and if I got lucky I'd find the answer before I got tired of clicking through pages.

      Then along came Google and they were known for good results, period. PageRank worked fantastically well back when "SEO" was nothing more than long page titles and META tags. That's why they created and publicized the "I'm Feeling Lucky" button--if was their way of saying "We're so good, we'll bet that what you want is first result"--like the Russian Roulette of searching. I remember hearing over and over how you could search for Coke or Stanford or Ford and click "I'm Feeling Lucky" and wind up at the company's/school's/whatever's site.

      The fact that Google had a clean page was just a bonus, though the fast-loading front page was also nice back when most of us were on dialup. Back in January 1999 (shortly after Google launched) it actually had quite a few links (compared to today) and the Portal Wars had not really yet begun. (I imagine they started, in fact, due to the fact that Google was kicking their ass in search.*) They had plenty of links on their page but a) it was still relatively clean and b) most of those were for browsing their hierarchy. Yahoo's only had three graphics on their page in this sample.

      http://web.archive.org/web/19990117053926/http://yahoo.com/
      http://web.archive.org/web/19990117032727/http://www.google.com/ Ha--Google itself was "Beta" back then. :-)

      I come up with 10,482 bytes for Google and 18,720 bytes for Yahoo. That would be about 2 seconds vs. 4 seconds at 56k.

      * In June 1999, Yahoo started using Google to power their search results. That's how good they were. That lasted until Feb. 2004.

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    29. Re:Fire that marketroid! by iNaya · · Score: 1
      1. KISS (Keep it simple, stupid)
      2. Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem
      3. Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity

      'nuff said.

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    30. Re:Fire that marketroid! by DragonWriter · · Score: 1

      Which is why I a quite frustrated when I first saw iGoogle and thought it was their new look. They should have tested this on iGoogle;

      iGoogle (and Google Calendar and some other Google properties) have had themes including (but not limited to) background images for quite some time, so insofar as it makes sense to "test" a non-iGoogle background-image function on iGoogle, they already did.

    31. Re:Fire that marketroid! by xlsior · · Score: 1

      The problem is that that link didn't work in many browsers (I use Avant Browser, nothing happened when clicking the link in there), and in the ones that it did work it brought up a login page requireing you to log in with a google account (gmail) first in order to make any changes.

      I didn't follow through logging in so I don't know first hand what it showed after logging in, but I've seen complaints from others that claim that even then you couldn't turn it off, but merely replace it with a white background image.

      Monumentally stupid move from Google on multiple levels here.

    32. Re:Fire that marketroid! by Daniel+Phillips · · Score: 1

      I second the motion to 'Fire that marketroid!' If Google keeps the kind of idiots that think forcing visual garbage on all their users - whether personal or professional - is a good idea

      I can assure you that no marketdroid was responsible for this fiasco. Modus operandi smacks more of Larry's former girlfriend.

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    33. Re:Fire that marketroid! by fatwilbur · · Score: 1

      I think a lot of that was due to the fact we were on dial-up modems, so Google loaded very quickly. Broadband access is everywhere now - honestly, ing with it's background image and all loads just as fast as Google now (instantly).

    34. Re:Fire that marketroid! by BikeHelmet · · Score: 1

      Are you kidding me? Depending on where he's from, his plan might only cover 200MB. If his browser didn't cache it, it could eat up a huge chunk of that. And if he goes over, it might cost him $5/MB.

      It was so poorly implemented that it couldn't be turned off. If you're going to force something like that on your users, you at least need to think of common situations that have real damages.

    35. Re:Fire that marketroid! by rastoboy29 · · Score: 1


      Actually, I kinda like it.  I even quite like their choice of images.

      There is a large gulf between an interesting and attractive background image and the Yahoo of yore.

    36. Re:Fire that marketroid! by eionmac · · Score: 1

      I concur. Extremely bad form by Google

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    37. Re:Fire that marketroid! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Haven't seen this comment around yet, so maybe I'm the only one using it...
      I don't go to Google to search. When I want to search, I just tell google what I want and skip their front page.
      Easy:
      In Firefox, add a bookmark for "http://google.com/search?q=%s"
      Set the keyword to 'g'

      Now to search Google for "remove background image from Google", just surf to "g 'remove background image from Google".

      I was really surprised to see so many /.-ers still see the Google front page...
      I mean, like many people are expressing here, I do not want or need to see their front page, I just want the results.
      (By the way, similar things work for Google maps, Google Images, Google Scholar, Google Cache (particularly handy if a website is /.-ed), etc.)

  7. Google has lost their identity by BondGamer · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Their idea of minimalism is clearly dead. Why do I need an image distracting me from a page I only visit for a couple seconds? It is not like a desktop which you will be looking at a lot. I go to Google.com to search the web, not look at a picture. To even attempt something like this shows they have lost their way.

    1. Re:Google has lost their identity by Idbar · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I really, still don't see the issue with this. I guess it's hard to be well known, everyone complains and nobody is never happy.

      These are customizations that can be removed. I opted for adding one of my picasa pictures. I I liked it.

      As for the "it's not like a desktop", it's to me a good indicator that they could be moving to Web Operating Systems, where you can add icons an launch applications from within your browser. Is that bad? Is that the way? I don't know, but while people complains about being good or not, it seems to me that at least they offer options, and they try to please people. so they can pick for themselves. Whether they like Bing style or the traditional or the iGoogle with gadgets.

      On the other hand, I see more the background on Google's page than my own desktop wallpaper that it's usually covered with more than one window.

    2. Re:Google has lost their identity by Cecil · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You look at the desktop a lot? I can barely even remember what my desktop background is. I see it for about 10 seconds after a very rare reboot, while I'm waiting for various maximized applications to start.

    3. Re:Google has lost their identity by mattack2 · · Score: 1

      I didn't see any "remove desktop picture" link in Safari last night. I was able to change the background to white after searching and figuring out how to do it.

    4. Re:Google has lost their identity by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

          I surprised myself at work one day. A while back, I had doctored up a photo that I took inside an Equinix datacenter, and put Thor from Stargate into it. I made that the background on my machine. The only time I reboot is for a kernel upgrade or after a power outage. I was laughing inside when I saw it after a power outage. There's something to be said to being welcomed to your Linux desktop by an Asgard. :)

          I still tell people the picture is real, and since most of them have never visited a datacenter, much less a Equinix datacenter, they look and have to accept that it's real. :) I have most people convinced that I've done lots of things I can't talk about. The truth is, they just wouldn't understand or care.

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    5. Re:Google has lost their identity by h4rr4r · · Score: 1

      Is that bad?
      Are you really so brain damaged you think the web browser is the OS? You don't see any problem with trying to use a web browser in that way?

      Yay! We can do everything we used to do slower, less secure, and totally reliant on an Internet connection.

    6. Re:Google has lost their identity by nschubach · · Score: 1

      We used to play pranks on people who would leave their desktops logged in at work. We'd take a screen capture and set it to their background then hide all the windows, icons and the task bar. When they came back to the computer "unlocked" they instinctively attempted to start working and swore at their locked up PC.

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    7. Re:Google has lost their identity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hell I don't even VISIT their front page anymore. No matter what browser I'm in (Firefox, Chrome, Opera, even IE) I use the built in search field and wind up on results pages. If I do go straight to google, it's to my igoogle page which wasn't part of this experiment.

    8. Re:Google has lost their identity by D+Ninja · · Score: 1

      Their idea of minimalism is clearly dead. Why do I need an image distracting me from a page I only visit for a couple seconds? It is not like a desktop which you will be looking at a lot.

      And with that, I believe you hit the nail on the head.

      My theory with testing out this background image is that Google, when they release Chrome OS, want to make Chrome their version of the desktop. Therefore, having a "desktop background" of sorts would make perfect sense. Of course, people so much like their minimalistic interface that this plan backfired on them. But, I don't think they were doing this just to "be like Bing." I think (and hope) there was more to it than that.

    9. Re:Google has lost their identity by Per+Wigren · · Score: 2, Informative

      You're not doing it good enough. You also need to rotate the screenshot by 180 degrees and go into screen preferences and rotate the screen 180 degrees. That way it looks normal but the mouse pointer is upside down and when you move the mouse the pointer goes in the opposite direction.

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    10. Re:Google has lost their identity by suburbanmediocrity · · Score: 1

      I really, still don't see the issue with this.

      Apparently neither did Google.

    11. Re:Google has lost their identity by Xtravar · · Score: 1

      Sorry to go off topic, but this is a great opportunity to talk about why the fuck we even have a 'desktop'. It's always been a stupid design, and its roots are in the idea that applications need to be variable size windows that can overlap. It's an idea that was designed by an engineer - in other words, progmatically makes sense, but pragmatically does not.

      In the last few years, we've seen tabbed interfaces take off because they're slightly less sucky than the traditional MDI paradigm. But tabbed interfaces still suck for some purposes (drag and drop), and aren't even implemented on the OS level but at the app level. What we really need is to kill the whole window paradigm and start from scratch. Of course, I don't know what would be more intuitive, but there has to be some way to present applications in an orderly fashion where you can't 'lose' windows, overlap windows, or be limited in any way. And believe me, I have my gripes about this on Windows, Mac, and Linux. It happens everywhere.

      I have a feeling that the solution will grow out of the mobile market, and, indeed, much has already been accomplished there. After all, it's the big screens of the PC market that fucked up multitasking in the first place. Multitasking shouldn't be as difficult and annoying as it is, and the 'desktop' wallpaper we never see is the central part of that problem. /rant

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    12. Re:Google has lost their identity by MacGyver2210 · · Score: 1

      Sometimes it's nice to be able to have images on pages you use most often. Sometimes the plain search is boring.

      For example, I have no idea what this is about because I have my iGoogle page setup with all my feeds and links, and in fact that's how I found this /. story. I can't remember the last time I even saw the plain google.com page(ok, yes I do...I went to play the pac-man logo for a while).

      I use firefox and have a black persona with flashing lightning bolts on it, and my iGoogle page has the EarthLight skin which shows where it is currently daylight in a cool map image. Both are large images(together taking up almost 1/3 of my screen's vertical real estate) but they are really well executed and not at all intrusive to me. The data within/on top of the images is easy to read, and the images aren't so loud they pull all attention from the purpose of the page to "What the f___ is going on with this page?".

      I think that if the images are done right(as in subtle and seamless), and people are allowed to opt-in for those who don't embrace even subtle change, this wouldn't be a terrible idea for a feature.

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    13. Re:Google has lost their identity by geekoid · · Score: 1

      When the post said "it's not like a desktop" told me that are out of touch with where this technology is going.

      As was said 15 years ago, and it's coming true: "The Browser will be the desktop."

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    14. Re:Google has lost their identity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The main problem is that, for people like you who want garish shit on their homepage, they already offer iGoogle which allows this type of faggotry.

    15. Re:Google has lost their identity by asylumx · · Score: 1

      Don't you have a search box on the top-right-hand of your browser? What's the point of *ever* going to google's front page in today's world, anyway?

    16. Re:Google has lost their identity by PatrickThomson · · Score: 1

      What's the matter? disappointed you missed your chance to piss and moan? They took it down after 14 hours. Nobody needs to read another post full of righteous indignationand regurgitated groupthink.

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    17. Re:Google has lost their identity by Idbar · · Score: 1

      I don't see where do you get I'm brain damaged. Perhaps yours is so obsessed on how things are that refuses to see anything else. At this point, I really don't care how "stuff should work", history has proved that paradigms can be broken any time.

      So what's your point? That I can't launch applications from my browser? Because my browser has been doing that for who knows how long: I add mms:// to an URL, and a media player jumps. I add a .pdf and the acrobat reader pops-up. If a browser and particularly HTML 5 or AJAX can provide enough interaction with users and hardware (such as location APIs), why not?
      Is YOUR brain fried already of over-thinking how things "should" be done?

    18. Re:Google has lost their identity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've heard women need sex to calm down. I know you're most likely not a woman, but for sure, you are on the rag (or menopausal already).

    19. Re:Google has lost their identity by Idbar · · Score: 1

      I'll byte. Hey... I don't like and I don't use iGoogle, and I wouldn't have noticed this feature if they don't put it on the classic page. I guess they know who does and who doesn't use iGoogle. But hey... go check the maps! They look nicer now with traffic prediction!

    20. Re:Google has lost their identity by CAIMLAS · · Score: 1

      Desktop? ...

      Oh, you mean the thing covered by sticky notes?

      My display is for work. If I'm looking at my desktop, chances are I'm not utilizing much of my screen for work.

      See how that works?

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    21. Re:Google has lost their identity by Psychotria · · Score: 1

      I look at the desktop a lot because most of the applications I run I don't run maximised. This is especially true for my web browser, pdf viewer, word processor, etc. Why don't I run them maximised? Because I can read faster and more accurately when the line lengths are shorter.

    22. Re:Google has lost their identity by melikamp · · Score: 1

      Sounds like you need a bigger screen.

    23. Re:Google has lost their identity by BikeHelmet · · Score: 1

      You look at the desktop a lot? I can barely even remember what my desktop background is. I see it for about 10 seconds after a very rare reboot, while I'm waiting for various maximized applications to start.

      My desktop is blue. (The Win2k blue, to be precise)

      I use it as a massive more-advanced start menu, thanks to tools like this and this.

      To get to it to launch, find, or look at something, I use WinKey+D

    24. Re:Google has lost their identity by chocapix · · Score: 1

      You should look into Tiling window managers. I personally use awesome at home, and it's awesome.

    25. Re:Google has lost their identity by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      Rotating everything 90 degrees would be even more disconcerting, I think.

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  8. Didn't even notice by by+(1706743) · · Score: 5, Funny

    I only use the Pac-Man page.

    1. Re:Didn't even notice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Oh thanks. What was once ONE day of lost productivity has now become an ETERNITY.

    2. Re:Didn't even notice by sharkey · · Score: 1

      Still better than the fucking shit foisted on us by Google this morning.

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  9. Not here by Fnkmaster · · Score: 5, Informative

    I just checked and Google.com still shows a "Change Background Image" link in the lower left corner, so it looks more like it's still an option, they just realized they confused people by defaulting it to on for a few hours.

    Anyway, it's just an option now. Nobody's forcing you to use it. I suspect the Slashdot crowd keeps it pretty real on the "give me a plain white background or give me death" tip, but a lot of people like this sort of silly eye candy.

    Anybody else remember back when we all switched to using Google *because* of the plain white background and simple layout?

    1. Re:Not here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just checked and Google.com still shows a "Change Background Image" link in the lower left corner

      Only if you allow Javascript to run.

      After their last stupid adventure with Pac-Man, Google is no longer allowed to run Javascript on my machine.

      /frank

    2. Re:Not here by djdanlib · · Score: 2, Informative

      Remember when Blackle came out as a joke on the plain white background?

    3. Re:Not here by BikeHelmet · · Score: 1

      I just checked and Google.com still shows a "Change Background Image" link in the lower left corner, so it looks more like it's still an option, they just realized they confused people by defaulting it to on for a few hours.

      And it still does nothing in my browser!

      Anybody else remember back when we all switched to using Google *because* of the plain white background and simple layout?

      Yes. It's a search engine. You type stuff in the search box, and get relevant results. Google, please don't screw it up!

    4. Re:Not here by SleazyRidr · · Score: 1

      I was introduced to Blackle at work as a way to save electricity. I think that was part of the joke.

    5. Re:Not here by 2short · · Score: 3, Insightful

      They didn't "default it to on". They made it impossible to turn off. You could pick an image via that link, but if you didn't, or if you did and them clicked "Remove Background Image", you got a rotating collection of Google-selected images. The intent was to do this for a day to publicize this exciting new feature.

      By the middle of the day they turned it off. They say because a bug made their explanatory link disappear for some users. (I saw it) I suspect the real reason was more to do with "turn off Google background image" being in their top-ten searches for the day.

    6. Re:Not here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That option has been there for at least a week or 2. It didn't get forced upon people until last night though.

  10. About time too! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    The popularity of Google was and will always be because of less clutter compared to Yahoo, MSN, Altavista. Fast loading of their homepage was why I stuck with them even though their searches some times were not as precise as others in some areas.

    I don't want them to go Bing's way. White is good enough for me.

    1. Re:About time too! by hkmwbz · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The popularity of Google was and will always be because of less clutter compared to Yahoo, MSN, Altavista.

      What? I thought it was because of the more relevant search results. Silly me.

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    2. Re:About time too! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it wasn't because of "more relevant search results." At the time, it didn't seem much different. The big advantage of Google was their minimalism. It meant faster load time and less distraction while you looked for what you wanted (in the summaries.)

    3. Re:About time too! by SleazyRidr · · Score: 1

      Especially back in the days when I thought I was a hot shot for being the first of my friends to get a 56k internet connection, the lack of clutter really made it a lot faster to get information.

  11. iGoogle by somaTh · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Honestly, I haven't seen the main Google page in a while. Had no one sent me the link, I would've missed Pac-Man day.

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    1. Re:iGoogle by Nerdfest · · Score: 1

      Ctrk-k, type search spec, enter, rejoice.

    2. Re:iGoogle by KiloByte · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That ugly search bar thing merely wastes screen space. I just type "g whatever" -- by default, the keyword is "google" but you can change it to just "g".

      It's especially useful if you want to search for something else -- like, going on to a given bug entry (in Debian's BTS / your project's Mantis / whatever) can be done with just "bts 213361". You could do that with the search bar, yeah, but it requires several clicks every single time.

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    3. Re:iGoogle by BikeHelmet · · Score: 1

      That ugly search bar thing merely wastes screen space. I just type "g whatever" -- by default, the keyword is "google" but you can change it to just "g".

      I just type "whatever". I use the AwesomeBar.

  12. Resistance to change by dward90 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Google is finding out again (and has found out before) that, because they are the default search engine for so many people, they can't really make large interface changes. I recall reading that they would like to remove the "I'm feeling lucky" button (because no one uses it), but they can't. Users simply can't handle large changes. This is a sad truth of many consumers, especially in computers: change of any kind prohibits many users from functioning, even when that change would have almost no impact on them.

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    1. Re:Resistance to change by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, one part "users dislike large changes" and one part "users dislike bloody stupid changes which only serve to make a page slower to load".

    2. Re:Resistance to change by Spad · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Given that so many users use the Google search box as an address bar, I'm amazed that they manage to get as far as opening up their browser without accidentally electrocuting themselves.

    3. Re:Resistance to change by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      You mean like that annoying search glump along the left side of the screen that people are still yelling about because it looks like a POS and clutters the page? I mean, really. Maybe it's because people like KISS, and when you start wandering away from KISS, people get pissed off.

      You can go over it time, and time again. People like simple, it's marketing that thinks things need to have every feature under the sun.

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    4. Re:Resistance to change by sootman · · Score: 5, Funny

      > I recall reading that they would like to remove the "I'm feeling lucky"
      > button (because no one uses it), but they can't. Users simply can't
      > handle large changes.

      Well that's an easy one to handle. Just remove it gradually. Every week, take off 1 letter.

      I'm Feeling Lucky
      I'm Feeling Luck
      I'm Feeling Luc
      I'm Feeling Lu
      I'm Feeling L
      etc.

      In just a few short months the button will be worn down to a nub and can then be safely removed without causing stress for users.

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    5. Re:Resistance to change by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I recall reading that they would like to remove the "I'm feeling lucky" button (because no one uses it)

      CRAP! Don't get rid of that. You'll break my screen scraper that uses it to go straight to the relevant Amazon page for a book just by submitting the ISBN in I'm feeling lucky. I have a scripts that depend on this for pricing and sales rank information.

      Oh, shit. Did I just say all that out loud?

    6. Re:Resistance to change by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Given that so many users use the Google search box as an address bar, I'm amazed that they manage to get as far as opening up their browser without accidentally electrocuting themselves.

      I work in a library where I often have to assist very inexperienced computer users. I once asked a client to google something, they then proceeded to enter "google.ca" into the google search box next to the address bar, then when the google results popped up they clicked on the first link which took them to google.ca.

      I am trying to make somewhat of a point here. There are some (dare I say many) users who have no idea what they are doing on a computer, and simply find what they are looking for by chance. Change for the sake of change is no good for these users.

    7. Re:Resistance to change by El_Oscuro · · Score: 1

      A few weeks ago, they did remove the "I'm feeling lucky" button and replaced it with "Insert Coin". Shut our whole office down.

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    8. Re:Resistance to change by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's a reason for that. It's because people don't want the URLs to show up in their own browser's address bar history.

    9. Re:Resistance to change by sysrammer · · Score: 1

      Occasionally I put a web addr in the Firefox google field. Why? Sometimes before I go to an unknown site, I want to see what the 'net thinks of the site.

      It's saved me a time or two from, let's say, "problem" sites.

      sr

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    10. Re:Resistance to change by ArundelCastle · · Score: 1

      I would be happy to set my google.com background to black. But yeah, no reason not to make it as customizable as iGoogle. Just don't scare folks.

      > I recall reading that they would like to remove the "I'm feeling lucky"
      > button (because no one uses it), but they can't. Users simply can't
      > handle large changes.

      I think they also realize that every "cool and viral" news story about Google usually refers to clicking I'm feeling lucky.

      The fact that it is disused means that when the top pagerank doesn't give the desired result they can probably get away with fudging results for the lulz. It's possible for a top pagerank to change more than once per day.

      I guess the fact that 'remove Google background' was the seventh most searched for phrase today might have had something to do with it.

      So we should all search for "why is Google becoming evil?" a couple times a day? So crazy it might work.

    11. Re:Resistance to change by BikeHelmet · · Score: 1

      Given that so many users use the Google search box as an address bar [readwriteweb.com], I'm amazed that they manage to get as far as opening up their browser without accidentally electrocuting themselves.

      I'm guilty of that - but it's because the Mozilla devs never acted on my suggestion to prioritize manual focus events over automatic ones.

      Google is my homepage, which opens with every new tab or window. It automatically grabs focus, so I can begin typing in a search term - but I don't actually have any control over that. Often I'll click the address bar and type Ctrl+V to paste, then Enter to go to that link - but between one of those actions, Google's search box takes back focus. I either search out the URL, or search out nothing.

      My manual mouse click on the address bar should override that, but it doesn't.

      And FYI, I suggested this back when Firefox was at v1.5...

    12. Re:Resistance to change by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      they would like to remove the "I'm feeling lucky" button (because no one uses it).

      I use that button quite often (I don't actually click on it but use a firefox "smart keyword" or whatever those are called, but still), when I am reasonably certain that the first result of a search is going to be what I'm looking for, for instance when looking for the main page of a large company, main page of a software that has a name that doesn't mean something else, or even when I want a particular web page but can't remember if the domain ends in .com or .net or .org. It saves a click (especially as I'm typing those in the address bar)...

      (If they removed the actual button but still handled the btnI parameter I wouldn't mind, though...)

    13. Re:Resistance to change by frostfreek · · Score: 1

      Hey, maybe they could remove the 'k' first.

  13. slow on uptake by jollyreaper · · Score: 5, Funny

    I thought this was just a one-day thing they were doing to show they're aware of the oilpocalypse. Bing has pretty pictures but I don't actually use it for anything. As Stephen Colbert said "Bing is the best search engine. I know because I googled it."

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    1. Re:slow on uptake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have quite a nice peaceful mountain image on Google now. As long as it doesn't get in the way it's OK. I tend to search using the search box in Firefox.

      Bing has better aerial photography on its maps - very useful when house hunting! Their map search algorithm used to be terrible, sometimes taking you to completely the wrong country even if you specified a street name and town that you know exist. That seems to have been fixed now.

  14. The psychological problem with the background... by TheNarrator · · Score: 1

    When I look at a great photograph, I have an emotional response. It's certainly pleasant when I am at a photo exhibit on the weekend but when I'm just searching for documentation on a jquery plugin it's simply distracting and breaks my concentration.

  15. You know something has gone seriously wrong... by rm999 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You know something has gone seriously wrong in your company when your employees are ripping off Microsoft's ideas.

    1. Re:You know something has gone seriously wrong... by Zerth · · Score: 1

      Perhaps they weren't "ripping off" Microsoft, but gathering data to show that it is a bad idea.

      Apparently, they didn't even need to gather a full 24 hours worth of data.

    2. Re:You know something has gone seriously wrong... by welcher · · Score: 5, Insightful

      But the whole google search sidebar was ripped off from Bing and seems to be very successful. You'd be in far more trouble if you refused to consider an idea just because it came from a place you didn't like.

    3. Re:You know something has gone seriously wrong... by h4rr4r · · Score: 1

      define successful, because it fucking sucks.

    4. Re:You know something has gone seriously wrong... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      True. That AJAX will never catch on.

    5. Re:You know something has gone seriously wrong... by welcher · · Score: 1

      Well it's useful, simple to use, generally well received and relatively unobtrusive. Define "fucking sucks".

    6. Re:You know something has gone seriously wrong... by gangien · · Score: 1

      yes because MS has never done anything useful. Their dominance over office and the OS markets were all just from them being a monopoly.

    7. Re:You know something has gone seriously wrong... by rm999 · · Score: 1

      You're kidding, right? Please provide a citation. When I search for information on the bar all I find are people complaining about it. Most people I personally know complained about it but have gotten used to it or found a way around it - hardly what I would call "successful". I installed adblock largely to get rid of it; this filter worked great: "google.com#TD(class=leftborder)"

      Anyway, my comment was a joke, but if this is the kinds of stuff google is getting from bing then perhaps my comment shouldn't be taken as a joke... at least the option to get rid of the bar would have been nice.

    8. Re:You know something has gone seriously wrong... by je+ne+sais+quoi · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Is it really a success? Do you have a link or something to back that up? I'm asking seriously, because, along with the AC, I can't stand it either. I've already written a request to google to allow the user to drop it. I just want my list of web-sites, with the links at the top for looking at hits from the web, images, etc. No sidebar = more space for important information or more screen real estate available for other windows.

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    9. Re:You know something has gone seriously wrong... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The funny thing is MS trying to make hay about this. Meanwhile it was they who typically were never first with any new idea. Must suck to realize your competitor has your playbook and isn't afraid to use it. And realize that more people found out about background changing today on their competitor than they did the last 6 months on Bing!

    10. Re:You know something has gone seriously wrong... by melikamp · · Score: 1

      > "google.com#TD(class=leftborder)"

      This did not work for me. I really, really hate the sidebar. I never use it. I don't see a point.

      Hey, here's my search page:

      <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
      <!DOCTYPE html
                  PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1 plus MathML 2.0//EN"
                          "http://www.w3.org/Math/DTD/mathml2/xhtml-math11-f.dtd">
      <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en">
      <head>
          <title>search</title>
          <meta http-equiv="Content-Type"
          content="application/xhtml+xml; charset=utf-8" />
          <meta name="resource-type" content="document" />
          <meta name="description" content="search page" />
          <meta name="keywords" content="search" />
          <meta name="distribution" content="global" />
          <meta http-equiv="Content-Style-Type" content="text/css" />
      </head>
      <body>
          <form method="get" action="http://www.google.com/search">
              <p style="text-align: center; margin-top: 13em">
                  <input type="text" name="q" size="42" maxlength="255" value="" />
                  <input type="submit" value="search" />
              </p>
          </form>
      </body>
      </html>

    11. Re:You know something has gone seriously wrong... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      It's not that successful. It's just all-but-unremovable (the support forums were full of people talking about how they wanted to disable it, but couldn't)

      I've had to change my default language to pirate in order to get rid of it.

    12. Re:You know something has gone seriously wrong... by Daniel+Phillips · · Score: 1

      Well it's useful, simple to use, generally well received and relatively unobtrusive.

      I hate it, find it intrusive, wish it were gone. Maybe you should take a poll?

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    13. Re:You know something has gone seriously wrong... by Dirtside · · Score: 1

      Yeah... Microsoft's idea of having a background on something, an idea which they invented, and no one else had ever done before!

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    14. Re:You know something has gone seriously wrong... by rm999 · · Score: 1

      Ah never mind, I meant the igoogle sidebar.

      But everything else I said also applies to the search sidebar :)

  16. What did they think was going to happen? by rigga · · Score: 1

    Did they really expect their hardcore users to embrace that crap? I had a bit of tear in my eye, that it was the end of the era of google doing the right thing.

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  17. Vocal by decipher_saint · · Score: 4, Informative

    Many, many folks (including myself) got quite vocal about it on the Google Support forums:
    http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Web+Search/label?lid=54fe34ede196c261&hl=en

    It was entertaining to see the range of reactions during the last 12-14 hours.

    The most interesting take was from my dad who called me up and asked me if he had a virus or something, I can only imagine how most "normal" people reacted to this change today.

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    1. Re:Vocal by IronChef · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I'll have to check the forums to see if anyone has commented on the ominous warning presented when you try to select a photo:

      "Only select images that you have confirmed that you have the license to use."

    2. Re:Vocal by nschubach · · Score: 1

      To be honest, the default image they chose for me did look a little "virus" like.

      http://lh4.ggpht.com/_fxkujw2mA9U/TAhxkNk736I/AAAAAAAAAKI/cbq956vqL7o/natgeo_07.jpg

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    3. Re:Vocal by Xanlexian · · Score: 1

      The most interesting take was from my dad who called me up and asked me if he had a virus or something, I can only imagine how most "normal" people reacted to this change today.

      Funny you mention that -- I've had a handful of calls from customers I haven't heard from in well over a year or two asking me that same thing.

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    4. Re:Vocal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Number one response:

      On behalf of all the people who use Google, please give the option of looking at the format in the old way.

      587 of 598 people found this answer helpful.

      1.8% of people liked the new format...talk about a blowout.

    5. Re:Vocal by asylumx · · Score: 1
      Normal person (via Facebook):

      Wow! Check out Google's background image!

      Huh... that doesn't seem too apocalyptic to me.

  18. google sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And I had just finished telling Google what I thought of their new system by creating a plain white image with the word "sucks" strategically placed in the upper right hand corner...and selecting it as my google background. Wonder how many people messed around like this.

    1. Re:google sucks by Jeng · · Score: 1

      Any other company and I would make a comment about how unlikely it would be for the company to notice something as subtle as that, but this is Google they might just.

      I'm glad Google has some AI going, but I sure hope it never achieves an artificial personality.

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  19. I must be the only one by Gudeldar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I must be the only person on the whole internet who didn't really care about this. Why bother visiting the Google homepage anyway? I just search from Firefox's search box.

    1. Re:I must be the only one by 91degrees · · Score: 1

      Quite a lot of people have Google as their homepage. I guess they're the ones who noticed.

    2. Re:I must be the only one by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 1

      I must be the only person on the whole internet who didn't really care about this. Why bother visiting the Google homepage anyway? I just search from Firefox's search box.

      Anyone know if there is a way to make the search box default to "safe search off" without resorting to cookies?
      I know you can manually stuff a "&safe=off" in the URL - but can you make the firefox search box do it automatically for you?

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    3. Re:I must be the only one by Gudeldar · · Score: 1

      There is no "safe search" by default for the regular text search results.

    4. Re:I must be the only one by mattack2 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I can't really give a rational reason, but I like going to the google page instead of using the search field.. (except when the horrid picture was there). I don't know, I guess part of it is that I'm used to it, and google loading also just shows me that my net connection is working. (At home I have to wireless routers, one as a bridge to another, for Tivos and my laptop -- I usually use the laptop connected to the other router to connect to the local Tivos.)

    5. Re:I must be the only one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Google's homepage is the dial tone of the internet.

    6. Re:I must be the only one by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 1

      But as soon as you click on "images" it does default to safe.
      If you've embedded the "&safe=off" in the text search, clicking images preserves that argument in the new search.

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    7. Re:I must be the only one by value_added · · Score: 1

      I must be the only person on the whole internet who didn't really care about this. Why bother visiting the Google homepage anyway? I just search from Firefox's search box.

      I hope you meant to say "from the Firefox address bar".

      Other than that, no, there's, well, at least two of us. ;-) I just read these articles for fun, but I gotta admit I'm dumbfounded at the some of the comments. Like those from the folks who make google.com their home page. This is Slashdot. You don't know enough HTML markup to make your own homepage... with hookers and blackjack?

    8. Re:I must be the only one by lahvak · · Score: 1

      That was exactly my reaction when I read about it in an article that showed up in my google news page: "who in the world goes to the google homepage these days?" Then I went there just to see what's going on. I couln't care either way, but my second reaction was "that must suck if you are on a dialup".

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    9. Re:I must be the only one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I do have Google as start page, because search is actually what I do most after opening a new broser tab. I really like to have the search box right in the middle of the screen if i intend to search for something.
      However today it was "about:blank" so I could use at least the search box without getting some fucking big picture slammed into my face.

      And no Google, I will not set up an account to get rid of an annoying feature and learn how to configure that. Stop using your start page is easier and faster.

    10. Re:I must be the only one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I didn't notice it, and I only ever know about the special google home pages when the press gives Google free PR for them. Search boxes -- I use both Firefox and Safari -- are becoming the default.

    11. Re:I must be the only one by gparent · · Score: 1

      I just add it to my personal settings.

    12. Re:I must be the only one by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Go check mycroft.mozdev.org to see if there is an unsafe search. If not, use mycroft to make one, and add it to firefox. Mycroft search is the first custom search I add to any firefox install... thereby making the whole thing easy. It is incredibly retarded that a mycroft search is not one of the default included searches. Unless it is, now; I'm using chromium.

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    13. Re:I must be the only one by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I've though of that, one more plugin. Considering all the other crap firefox sends when you do a google search, like browser client and release versions, there ought to be an about:config option somewhere to specify all that other crap. I just want to add &safe=off to the list of what's automatically appended to google search URL.

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    14. Re:I must be the only one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For real. I hadn't seen the google home page for ages.

      What makes me laugh is the level of entitlement people are demonstrating. Like they actually pay google to provide the service...

    15. Re:I must be the only one by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      http://oreilly.com/pub/h/3033

      Build your own Firefox search engine plugin with the &safe=off option in the search URL template.

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    16. Re:I must be the only one by tychovi · · Score: 1

      Me too, I switched to Ixquick a couple of months ago... I had no idea what everyone was going on about.

    17. Re:I must be the only one by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      Hmm, that might be outdated. Looks like this is probably the way to go...

      %programfiles%\Mozilla Firefox\searchplugins\google.xml

      <SearchPlugin xmlns="http://www.mozilla.org/2006/browser/search/">
      <ShortName>Google</ShortName>
      <Description>Google Search</Description>
      <InputEncoding>UTF-8</InputEncoding>
      <Image width="16" height="16">data:image/png;base64, [snip] </Image>
      <Url type="application/x-suggestions+json" method="GET" template="http://suggestqueries.google.com/complete/search?output=firefox&client=firefox&hl={moz:locale}&q={searchTerms}"/>
      <Url type="text/html" method="GET" template="http://www.google.com/search">
          <Param name="q" value="{searchTerms}"/>
          <Param name="ie" value="utf-8"/>
          <Param name="oe" value="utf-8"/>
          <Param name="aq" value="t"/>
          <!-- Dynamic parameters -->
          <Param name="rls" value="{moz:distributionID}:{moz:locale}:{moz:official}"/>
          <MozParam name="client" condition="defaultEngine" trueValue="firefox-a" falseValue="firefox"/>
      </Url>
      <SearchForm>http://www.google.com/firefox</SearchForm>
      </SearchPlugin>

      Add in there somewhere in the list...

      <Param name="safe" value="off"/>

      Shut down Firefox, make the change, restart (of course).

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    18. Re:I must be the only one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The first thing I do after installing Firefox is to remove the search toolbar and change my homepage to google.

    19. Re:I must be the only one by narcc · · Score: 1

      I must be the only person on the whole internet who didn't really care about this. Why bother visiting the Google homepage anyway? I just search from Firefox's search box.

      I hope you meant to say "from the Firefox address bar".

      Well, there is a search box right next to the address bar. I'm pretty sure he meant what he said.

      I blame Microsoft for creating this confusion. Mistype an address? No problem, we'll do a search for you!

      Then everyone copied is misfeature.

      Now the majority of internet users don't know what a url is or what all that "crazy stuff" in the address bar means.

      It's insanity, really. I don't know how many times I've watched a user type www.yahoo.com into the search box on google's main page. What a waste!

    20. Re:I must be the only one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I loved reading the furious blog comments today from people who insisted that they were hardcore techies and that's why they appreciated Google's minimal design... ...not realizing that they were 100% discredited by their apparent unawareness of Awesome Bar / Search Box technology.

      I seriously thought it was a massive slam campaign by Microsoft, but finally realized, yet again, that people really are that stupid.

    21. Re:I must be the only one by Requiem18th · · Score: 1

      Because must people are incapable of handling the searchbox correctly.

      In most search boxes entering Return opens the search in the current page and entering Alt+Return opens the search in a new tab. Both are desirable behaviors, but both handling both is over the skill level of most users, so you have to pick one, open in current, most of the time.

      So how do the people that never read the documentation --the kind that click OK to every dialog box without reading them-- how do you think they open a search in a new tab? By opening a new window/tab and typing their search in the default homepage.

      That's why.

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    22. Re:I must be the only one by hodet · · Score: 3, Insightful

      that's beautiful man

    23. Re:I must be the only one by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 1

      Thanks man, worked like a charm!

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    24. Re:I must be the only one by mattack2 · · Score: 1

      ARGH. After checking out the moderation, I noticed that I misspelled "two" as "to". I sure wish we could edit comments.

    25. Re:I must be the only one by DarkEmpath · · Score: 1

      While Seamonkey users were excluded from the trial, so I didn't see it, the Seamonkey and Firefox built in search is US only. I've turned it off because it only returns US-centric results. My home page is google.com.au, and there is no way (that I can see) of changing the built in search to match

    26. Re:I must be the only one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Any vaguely modern browser can search arbitrary things.

      I did a google search for 'google.com.au' and 'Mycroft'. The first result was a Mycroft search plugin for google.com.au. Two clicks, including "Start using it straight away" and indeed, I can start using it, straight away.

      In other news: You can re-use cutlery. No need to buy new forks for each meal, just buy dish detergent, add to warm water and you can clean them for use again. Brilliant.

      No need to thank me, just remember to tell the next person who asks you a question that you're a bit dim and they should try someone else.

    27. Re:I must be the only one by sysrammer · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I use google.com to test connectivity. (Like someone below says, it's the "dialtone of the internet").

      I use yahoo.com to test performance...or lack of it :)

      sr

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  20. It wasn't THAT bad... by 2obvious4u · · Score: 1

    although it opened up a lot of jokes around the office about google/bing.

  21. no fuss google url by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://www.google.com/custom?hl=en&client=google-coop-np

    I use this uri no adds, no fuss, simple return of search results. The way it should be.

    1. Re:no fuss google url by city · · Score: 1

      or google.com/m

      (although some image results are for a mobile device)

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    2. Re:no fuss google url by Mana+Mana · · Score: 1

      > http://www.google.com/custom?hl=en&client=google-coop-np

      But this does not offer the [Gmail News Images ...] links upper left. :(

      There used to be a guy who ran a front end to Google that added [ -advertiser1 -advertiser2 ... -advertiserN] to the query and eliminated all ads. There's various ways to eliminate ads but I liked this guys approach. But I can't seem to remember his URL or find it searching ./. It was something like the acronym dot com of `croogle is not google ads' or something like that, i.e., cinggs.com or something like it. Anyone?

  22. Some clarification is needed ... by Infernal+Device · · Score: 0

    You still have the option to set the background image. What was scrapped was Google setting an image for you when you had not previously selected one.

    Honestly, I rather like it. The pictures in their gallery are not offensive in the least and provide a nice bit of somewhat blandish eye-candy.

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    1. Re:Some clarification is needed ... by h4rr4r · · Score: 1

      And make the page load slower. If you need shiny over function I suggest you would be better served by bing or yahoo.

    2. Re:Some clarification is needed ... by amliebsch · · Score: 1

      I thought the images load asynchronously, how would this make the page load slower?

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  23. I actually liked it. by EMR · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I just wished it would have shown the background in the search results too:)

  24. How clever of them... by Jafafa+Hots · · Score: 5, Interesting

    See, it was all a plan - give us a day of "Google as Bing" and demonstrate with cold hard data that people don't like Bing's style and prefer Google. Shut up carpers among stockholders that were screaming "do something!" to respond to Bing grabbing 2 percent market share, AND wipe MS's nose it it.

    Yeah, that was the plan all along.

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    1. Re:How clever of them... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      If life gives you marmals, make marmalade.

      The repercussions of being given mammals is terrifying.

    2. Re:How clever of them... by mikael_j · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That's actually a very common IT/software dev reaction to marketing decisions, "Fine, we'll spend three weeks building this feature and make sure to make it log everything just so we can get them to realize that it's pointless".

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    3. Re:How clever of them... by VIPERsssss · · Score: 1

      No, it was a plan to harvest the email addresses of everyone who had to create an account so they could "turn it off".

      "That, and there's no such thing as bad publicity" - if you believe that crap.

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    4. Re:How clever of them... by Gizzmonic · · Score: 1

      Yeah, just like how New Coke was all a conspiracy to show how people hated Pepsi!

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    5. Re:How clever of them... by jollyreaper · · Score: 1

      See, it was all a plan - give us a day of "Google as Bing" and demonstrate with cold hard data that people don't like Bing's style and prefer Google. Shut up carpers among stockholders that were screaming "do something!" to respond to Bing grabbing 2 percent market share, AND wipe MS's nose it it.

      Yeah, that was the plan all along.

      And while they're telling us they've returned to the original recipe, they've substituted high-fructose corn syrup for cane sugar. Ingenious!

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    6. Re:How clever of them... by oakgrove · · Score: 2, Interesting

      At the risk of redundancy, this was how I interpreted the experiment too. The fact that if any Googlers stray to Bing after this, the first thing they will be reminded of is the hated Google Image day and instantly be turned off. Brilliantly played.

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    7. Re:How clever of them... by MMORG · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure that the reaction we saw today clearly says that people don't like Bing's style. It says that people are used to Google's style and don't like change. It's quite possible that many of the same people who ranted about the Google homepage change would not find Bing's homepage offensive at all, because they have no preconceived notions about what it should look like.

      That's the price of becoming a verb in the language: you no longer own your own product.

      (Plus, honestly, Google's attempt at a picture background simply looked bad compared to Bing's implementation.)

  25. When we're in a bubble... by IANAAC · · Score: 1
    We tend to only see what's inside the bubble.

    There is a reason why few people use Bing, Yahoo!, Live, Ask, etc...

    I can't speak for Yahoo, Live, Ask, etc., but from what I've noticed from most home users (you know, the ones who buy their computers at Best Buy and use them as is), they all use Bing. It has nothing to do with what people prefer. It's what's set as the default and most people use it.

    1. Re:When we're in a bubble... by Darkness404 · · Score: 1

      Yes, but most of those time those people don't live in a vacuum. They have children who know how to use a computer and set the homepage to Google, they have geeks who for some reason have to use their computer and set it to Google, etc.

      While it is true that a lot of them use Bing, they aren't going to be very valuable for MS who spent tons of money in marketing and developing Bing when they are the same people who used the piece of crap MSN search because it was the default in IE.

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  26. Wait! by coaxial · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    People actually go to the Google homepage?

    But seriously, you do anything, and you're going to find people a vocal group, perhaps even a majority that hate it. But you know what? It doesn't matter. It's a trivial change. Who is going to say, "Oh, they have a background on their default page. That completely changes my search experience. Screw that. I'm switching to Ask.com ." No one, that's who. If this is what you can find to complain about, there's nothing to complain about.

    Times like this I'd find it refreshingly honest if Google's FAQ said:

    Q: How can I disable the background image?
    A: You can't. Get used to it. You can't change the Google Doodle either.

    1. Re:Wait! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I quit using Yahoo because they put ads on their homepage, some of which rendered my browser nonfunctional for several minutes. On a related note, I convinced my IT department to let us install Firefox.

    2. Re:Wait! by h4rr4r · · Score: 1

      I for one sure as hell would switch. To any other search engine. This was one of the reasons we went to google back when it was hosted on a stanford web page.

    3. Re:Wait! by coaxial · · Score: 1

      I seriously doubt you'd switch over something as trivial as an image. And the reason why everyone switched to Google from Yahoo and Alta Vista was because web search had become unusable. Google was fast (which has nothing to do with image loading, and everything to do with indexing strategies) and placed the most relevant things at the top. It was faster and better. That's why everyone switched.

      You are misremembering your history due to your outrage over a trivial change that had zero usability impact.

    4. Re:Wait! by iNaya · · Score: 1

      I too would switch to something else if I were forced to have an image like that on my homepage. It really is hard to think, and do research, when you have pretty pictures blasting at your eyeballs.

      It's the same reason I block Flash, and GIFs. I just can't think if there is stuff moving, or brightly coloured.

      I tried Bing a few times, but it's too distracting, and just plain annoying.

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  27. OMG by U8MyData · · Score: 1

    How about we go back to the CGA amber CRT screen where we have a command line, no windows, no mouse, and a 5.25" floppy drive to save our work on? Things progress whether you like it or not so give 'em a break...

    1. Re:OMG by h4rr4r · · Score: 1

      You have no idea how much real work still gets done at the command line. I use google for real work. If the kids need something I suggest they use bing.

    2. Re:OMG by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

          You don't spend a lot of time in shells, or the console of Unix machines, do you?

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    3. Re:OMG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In this case, however, there was no progress, only a threat of slipping back into Alta Vista vs. Lycos vs. Yahoo days, where clutter was a thing to flaunt.

    4. Re:OMG by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1

      Things should progress, but by what definition of "progress" is the addition of an entirely unrelated, huge and non-functional background image is that?

    5. Re:OMG by jayme0227 · · Score: 1

      The question is.. is this really progress? Minimalism is helped draw a lot of people to Google, taking that away gives one more reason to at least check out the competitors.

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  28. Fine, now kill the 'sidebar'. by B5_geek · · Score: 1

    I didn't like it, but i could tolerate it. What I cannot stand is the sidebar. Why the fsck would I use that when the links at the top already do the same thing but better/without clutter?

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    1. Re:Fine, now kill the 'sidebar'. by AhabTheArab · · Score: 1

      I love the sidebar. It gives me easy access to the Wonder Wheel, which is what I prefer to use for all of my serious searching.

    2. Re:Fine, now kill the 'sidebar'. by Fri13 · · Score: 1

      I want to "kill" the top bar and leave the sidebar!

      The sidebar has all the functions what I need most = Tools to actually filter my searches different ways very easily!

      I do not use topbar at all by default. I want it to be a panel what comes down when I click it to come down.

      Even better would be if both panels would be possible get hided and get so on very minimal UI.

    3. Re:Fine, now kill the 'sidebar'. by acid06 · · Score: 1

      Agreed. This is the worst "feature" ever.
      Luckily, there are Chrome and Firefox extensions which remove it. But it feels very odd whenever I use someone else's computer and I see that hideous sidebar thing. Just scrap it, really.

  29. This reminds me of Coke / New Coke. by Delusion_ · · Score: 1

    Coke had the #1 product in its market segment. Unsatisfied with this, they formulated New Coke, which was practically a tribute to the #2 product in its class: Pepsi.

    Turns out, people chose Coke over Pepsi because they actually preferred Coke over Pepsi, and not because of , say, the bottle shape or the name.

    So then they scrapped New Coke and nobody missed it.

    1. Re:This reminds me of Coke / New Coke. by VisiX · · Score: 1

      I wish they would have kept it so I could get something that tastes like Pepsi in restaurants that only sell Coke products.

    2. Re:This reminds me of Coke / New Coke. by dward90 · · Score: 1

      To be fair, Coke made New Coke for understandable reasons. The "Pepsi Challenge" wasn't fake. A majority of consumers do actually prefer Pepsi if given only a single sip or small glass. This scared Coke to death when they tested it themselves and got the same results.

      As it turned out, though, enjoying one sip is a lot different than enjoying an entire drink or a 12-pack of those drinks.

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    3. Re:This reminds me of Coke / New Coke. by schon · · Score: 1

      Or... they wanted to change formulation from sugar to high-fructose corn syrup, but knew there would be an uproar because the taste would change, so they made "new coke", waited for stock of the old formula to disappear, then reintroduced their real "new" formula as "classic", and their old customer base thought that they were getting the same stuff they'd always had.

    4. Re:This reminds me of Coke / New Coke. by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      You can get something that tastes like Pepsi. It’s called Diet Coke.

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  30. ROFLMAO! by mweather · · Score: 1

    I guess the fact that 'remove Google background' was the seventh most searched for phrase today might have had something to do with it."

    So people were searching for 'remove Google background'' from the very page that had the 'remove Google background'' link on it? There goes a little more of my faith in humanity.

    1. Re:ROFLMAO! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It didn't have that link, at the time.

    2. Re:ROFLMAO! by shadowfaxcrx · · Score: 1

      Yes we were. Because when you clicked "remove google background," Google dutifully removed the background.

      And then replaced it with another photo.

      The only way to go back to white was to select the white background from the editor's choice menu.

      But that turned your text white. White text on a white background isn't much fun.

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    3. Re:ROFLMAO! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know that the link didn't do anything unless you were logging into a google account right?
      The idea of needing to register and log in whenever you want to search something is borderline retarded....

    4. Re:ROFLMAO! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess the fact that 'remove Google background' was the seventh most searched for phrase today might have had something to do with it."

      So people were searching for 'remove Google background'' from the very page that had the 'remove Google background'' link on it? There goes a little more of my faith in humanity.

      If you'd actually tried it, you might know that you couldn't actually remove the background when you clicked the "Remove background" link - it sent you back to whatever default image it had loaded. And the plain white was apparently way down in the "Change Image" list (I certainly couldn't be bothered to find it).

    5. Re:ROFLMAO! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So people were searching for 'remove Google background'' from the very page that had the 'remove Google background'' link on it? There goes a little more of my faith in humanity.

      At least for me, there was no "Remove Google Background" link until a few hours ago. Sure, I could CHANGE the picture, but that wasn't what I wanted.

    6. Re:ROFLMAO! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hm. If you had a 'remove Google background' link, you had more than me and apparently more than most people. I believe they screwed up their implementation judging by the content of earlier comments.

    7. Re:ROFLMAO! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I didn't see a "remove background" link. In fact I found many of the links hard to read due to reduced contrast from the gay picture they used. At least someone at bing figured out that humans need contrast to effectively read text.

    8. Re:ROFLMAO! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There WAS no link. That was why the uproar. You could NOT remove it.

    9. Re:ROFLMAO! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      First, the link was in the bottom left corner, very easy to miss. Second, once you clicked on it, it asked you to log into Google. Just to disable a feature that shouldn't be there in the first place. No thanks.

    10. Re:ROFLMAO! by mschuyler · · Score: 1

      There were TWO things going on here. A few days ago Google introducedc the VOLUNTARY background. You could, if you wanted to, add a Bing-like background. The link at the bottom left allowed you to control this. That was available for a few days.

      The SECOND thing that happened was a non-voluntary background. There were at least two of them. The first was a Dale Chihuly pice; the second was some sort of yellow flower design. The bottomleft link stayed, but, as people have said, didn't work unless you were signed in.

      The option still exists, even as we speak. If you are signed into Google, you can Bingify the page.

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    11. Re:ROFLMAO! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Guess you missed the party.

      The "remove Google background" was only there after you changed the background. If you removed it, it went back to the "editor's pick" backgrounds, which couldn't be removed - only changed.

      You could manually select a white background, but the text itself was white, so that didn't help much.

    12. Re:ROFLMAO! by mweather · · Score: 1

      It had the link from day one. You just had to be logged in.

    13. Re:ROFLMAO! by mweather · · Score: 1

      Register? This is Google. How do you not have an account already?

  31. Bandwidth by MightyMait · · Score: 1

    I checked. The image I got was around 200KB in size. That's got to add up over all the visits to the Google home page.

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    1. Re:Bandwidth by raynet · · Score: 1

      I would assume that the image would be cached in most cases, either in the browser or in the ISPs proxy.

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    2. Re:Bandwidth by MightyMait · · Score: 1

      True. But, considering the user base, the initial load of the image times all the users must have been non-trivial. Of course, given all the YouTube/Hulu/etc. video traffic these days, a 200K image is nothing.

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  32. Because people like it the way it is by 91degrees · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Actually it's not like it's better to have a background, or worse. It's just different. People find change jarring.

    It's all perfectly natural that people want Google the way it always used to be... What I find amusing is the people going into length explanations about why a background image is such a terrible thing.

    It's the New Coke thing again. In blind tasting, people preferred New Coke. When it was actually sold as something different, people hated it.

    1. Re:Because people like it the way it is by westlake · · Score: 1

      It's the New Coke thing again. In blind tasting, people preferred New Coke. When it was actually sold as something different, people hated it.

      The mistake was in trying to kill off "Classic" Coke as both a product and a brand name. Rather than let New Coke find its own share of the market.

    2. Re:Because people like it the way it is by 91degrees · · Score: 1

      Still, they had their reasons for doing it the way they did. The Snopes article on New Coke is pretty informative.

    3. Re:Because people like it the way it is by h4rr4r · · Score: 1

      Making it take longer to load a page by increasing the amount of data is not a real change?

    4. Re:Because people like it the way it is by diamondsw · · Score: 1

      What I find amusing is the people going into length explanations about why a background image is such a terrible thing

      • Most of the default backgrounds made the text unreadable - even white, since the text stayed white with a light gray outline.
      • It made the page much larger and slower to load, which is still important for people on metered and unstable (i.e. cellular) connections.
      • It was impossible to turn off without signing into a Google account.
      • It added nothing in terms of usability, functionality - or anything, really.

      For a company that famously limits the number of words on the front page and benches the time results take, this is a very disturbing departure.

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  33. Now, now.. calm down by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Google was simply testing for the desire of a certain "feature" (or what have you). Several (if not all) companies do such a thing to see if there are ways to grow in consumer demand. Sure, many companies have had failed experiments (Pepsi Clear and New Coke come to mind first). That does not make the company or person a failure. Its a way to test for growth in popularity.

        If no company tested what consumers would like, imagine how our computers would function right now (or our cars, TVs, etc etc). You get the point.

    Sadly I first thought I was at Bing this morning when I saw the feature.

  34. Clever on Google's Part by dmomo · · Score: 1, Funny

    1) Emulate absurd feature of competitor
    2) Wait for public upheaval
    3) Concede to users' outrage
    4) Make it into a news story
    5) ...
    6) Profit!

    What many people may have gotten from this:
    "Wow, Bing still does that? Google was good enough to axe it. Google cares about users. Bing is Tacky"

    1. Re:Clever on Google's Part by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1) Emulate absurd feature of competitor 2) Wait for public upheaval 3) Concede to users' outrage 4) Make it into a news story 5) ... 6) Profit!

      What many people may have gotten from this: "Wow, Bing still does that? Google was good enough to axe it. Google cares about users. Bing is Tacky"

      Yes, because there can clearly be only one user preference on this. If the majority wants one thing, all should have the same. Who needs diversity and choices?

      Bing is smaller than Google, but growing. Competition and choices in the search market was becoming almost non-existent before Bing, that is not a good thing.

    2. Re:Clever on Google's Part by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use bing as a start page for a pretty picture. Sometimes interesting places. I then search Google from the search bar in Firefox.

  35. Google, stop the insanity! by leptons · · Score: 1

    Google! Just stop! Please stop messing with your search page. We don't want or need your fade-in effects of the menu, we just want the menu. We don't want background images or anything fancy. Just leave it alone!

  36. Google already said it was an accident.... by aengblom · · Score: 5, Informative

    Update June 10, 11:31AM: Last week, we launched the ability to set an image of users’ choosing as the background for the Google homepage. Today, we ran a special “doodle” that showcased this functionality by featuring a series of images as the background for our homepage. We had planned to run an explanation of the showcase alongside it—in the form of a link on our homepage. Due to a bug, the explanatory link did not appear for most users. As a result, many people thought we had permanently changed our homepage, so we decided to stop today’s series early. We appreciate your feedback and patience as we experiment and iterate.

    Posted by Marissa Mayer, VP Search Products & User Experience

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    1. Re:Google already said it was an accident.... by MSBob · · Score: 1

      Sounds like Marissa may accidentally find herself without a job.

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    2. Re:Google already said it was an accident.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      An accident? Just like recording WiFi data was an 'accident'. Geez, these guys sure are accident-prone. Are they planning to join the IDF or something?

    3. Re:Google already said it was an accident.... by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      Sounds more like the users got pissed off, shit hit the fan. Marketing and PR got involved and "we now have an explanation."

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    4. Re:Google already said it was an accident.... by BBTaeKwonDo · · Score: 1

      Unlikely. She was the first female Googler and is listed on Google's executives page. She's not going anywhere and even if she did, she could spend the rest of her life snorting coke off the backs of hookers through $100 bills and never come close to spending all her money.

    5. Re:Google already said it was an accident.... by Stupendoussteve · · Score: 1

      One can only hope. She's also "responsible" for that retarded bar on the left of search results, which duplicates functionality and just looks tacky (and unfortunately exists even in searches through a

    6. Re:Google already said it was an accident.... by paskal · · Score: 1

      Link to the blog post above quote attributed to Marissa Mayer:

      http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/06/art-of-homepage.html

    7. Re:Google already said it was an accident.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Update June 10, 11:35AM

      P.S. Jesus-fuckin'-Christ on a crutch. We didn't think you dorks and dweebs would have a bloody conniption fit and go totally apeshit ballistic nerdrage wharrrgarbl because we dared to put background images on *our* search engine's homepage. You guys really need to go start seeing a therapist to get some treatment for your Asperger's Syndrome, maybe think about getting some ProActiv, and making plans to move out of your parent's basement.

      P.P.S. We're turning the image backgrounds back on tomorrow because we can and it greatly amuses us to do so.

      Posted by Marissa Mayer, VP Search Products & User Experience

    8. Re:Google already said it was an accident.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hate that woman.

      She and her stupid experiments will destroy Google

      * Google Buzz
      * Stupid Left Side Bar
      * and now these Background Images

      notice that on her own Blog she removed comments.

      Obviously.

      What an idiot that woman is, just fire her.

  37. Why would you ever see google.com front page? by amazeofdeath · · Score: 1

    Seriously, I can't remember the last time I've actually visited bare google.com before today, when on a forum people complained about this new feature. I do all my searches from the address bar in Opera, and I really can't think of a reason for actually visiting google.com without any query already in progress.

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  38. https://google.com did not have the background by Dan667 · · Score: 1

    glad I switched.

  39. One (slightly) good reason to use google's page by oh-dark-thirty · · Score: 1

    All the fun and interesting things they do with the logo.

  40. "remove google background" search term display by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I remember reading an article that Google has a bunch of real-time displays at their main office, such as sample search terms, top search terms, etc.

    That must have been pretty funny today.

  41. Maude, parent up! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that is the interface they should have switched to : gooatgle! write your search terms on a piece of paper and stuff it in the hole to submit your supplication to the Oracle .

  42. i wish i had mod points by ClioCJS · · Score: 1

    haha.. Very amusing. :)

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  43. People like simple & fast by bobjr94 · · Score: 1

    I remember back in the day when yahoo was king, they had a simple search box and a few links. As time went on they stacked more link, videos, news feeds, ads, movie trailers, celebrity gossip, etc....Same thing happened to msn, bing is slightly better but Im sure it will be bloated in a year or 2. People got tired of it all and went to google. If they want news they will goto a new site.

  44. I did by pavon · · Score: 1

    The links all worked as designed for me, but I had to be signed into a Google account to remove the background. Screw that shit.

    1. Re:I did by Cederic · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah, I posted abuse on the Google blog because of that.

      They showed me a really interesting and nice picture as a background.. but I wasn't there to browse artistic photographs, I was there to a clean, simple, elegant and useful search interface.

  45. Hide the top panel please! by Fri13 · · Score: 1

    I really much liked the feature. It allowed to make own personal search site.

    The idea was much better than in Bing.

    Only bad designs were that background was set by default. What got many so angry about it.

    If Google listens, it will keep the background feature as optional.

    But same time it should allow more customizations as well.

    Possibility to hide google site top bar (Web, Pictures, Maps, Blogs etc searches) so user could show/hide it with simple small transparent icon on top right corner.

    Secondly, have a possibility to lockdown the user accoung so you can not change background or even user or logout. This would help many small companies to make public computer where people would use google search, but the google page could be added with company own background (still keeping the Google logo there etc).

    I really much liked the idea. Now I just want to have the topbar hided. Even better if it would "fade in" only when hovering mouse over the top edge of the google site.

    That would make the Google page so clear and simply to use!

  46. Not Exactly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Google didn't "scrap" the idea because of user dislike. They posted on their blog from the beginning they were going to cycle the best images for 24 hours for user awareness. Users who wish to continue using it have the option. "Google Introduces, Then Scraps, Bing-Style Background Images" is misleading at best. What happened was planned, was not effected by user feedback, and has not been scrapped.

  47. Below the fold by tepples · · Score: 1

    in the screenshot that the guy posted above, it clearly says "Remove background image" in the bottom left.. how did you (and presumably millions of others who Googled "remove google background") miss that?

    Because my laptop's monitor is 1024x600 pixels, and that picture is 1280x1024 pixels. Or was "Remove background image" put above the fold on all systems?

    1. Re:Below the fold by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It would have appeared in the lower left corner regardless of your screen resolution.

      Holy fuck! Is this really slashdot I'm reading? WTF happened to this place in the 7 years since I last read it? My account doesn't even work anymore.

  48. Would be wallpaper for Chrome OS? by blackgod · · Score: 1

    I think Google try to bring some wallpaper kind of stuff to its Chrome OS which is mostly a browser. It is a trial run to get a feel of it.. :-) looks ugly?, just remove it. IMHO I need better index than better background

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    1. Re:Would be wallpaper for Chrome OS? by keeboo · · Score: 1

      looks ugly?, just remove it.

      I tried, but it asked me to login in my "google account" in order to do that.

  49. "because they actually preferred Coke over Pepsi" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not quite.

    The really surprising thing with Coke / New Coke / Pepsi was that in blind taste tests people reliably preferred pepsi to coke by a large margin, even people who claimed that they strongly preferred coke... yet the market didn't agree when coke rolled out new coke (which was equal to or better than pepsi in the blind tests).

    So Coke's change was well grounded but reality turned out to be too strange for science.

  50. Google has begun a Cash Back program by hadesan · · Score: 1
    In a move to boost their search engine ratings, Google has now started a Cash Back program.

    From Google HQ:

    Google Cash Back is designed to help advertisers reach you with compelling offers, and to provide a new type of shopping experience that will change user behavior and attract a bunch of new users to Google. We have put in new programs for you and our advertisers designed to provide amazing shopping experiences for consumers and great opportunities for advertisers.

    Our strategy for Google remains evergreen – working hard to understand the intent of your search and helping you make smarter decisions and complete important tasks.

    Shopping remains one of the most important tasks people engage in while using search, and we remain committed to delivering great shopping experiences for you that help you make better shopping decisions, get great deals, and save time and money along the way. For merchants and advertisers, we have some ideas for making it easy to get a broader array of products and offers into Google, and we’ll share some details on this later this summer.

    BTW, another important task is implemented our swell new feature called Google Background - we hope you like it!

    Don't be evil!

  51. Some people are creating alternatives. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://duckduckgo.com/

  52. If it ain't broke don't fix it by mangu · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This decision by Google is symptomatic of so much that's wrong is software.

    I remember when Google first came out, Altavista was the dominant search engine then and it was a mess. A page full of blinking ads, where one had to search for the search input. Google was a refreshing change, with that clean look. Now they are doing their best to throw it away. Pity.

    But that's not so different from the software world in general, people seem to find it pretty hard to leave well enough alone, although one *remarkable* exception to this rule seems to be Linus Torvalds, he has definitely rejected an attempt to create Linux version 3.

    There are so many examples of people who should have celebrated their success and gone to other projects. KDE and Python are the most relevant examples, IMHO. KDE 3 and Python 2 were superb, outstanding pieces of human creation. KDE 4 and Python 3 suck.

    And there are many other examples of software that tried to fix inexistent problems. For example, there was a time when every Linux distro had a utility called Lilo, for "Linux Loader". Lilo was simple, easy to configure, worked perfectly. Then someone thought he could improve Lilo and created an abomination called "Grub". Last time I looked there were 185 files in the Grub configuration directory in my computer. How many files do you need to choose which partition you want to boot? Oh, but wait! Grub lets you configure an image that will be shown as the background when you choose the partition to boot! I guess that makes it worthwhile to have 185 files instead of one file to configure, right?

    Another example, Linux used to have something called the open Sound System, or OSS. Then someone tried to improve it and created something called ALSA, for Advanced Linux Sound Architecture. The problem is that OSS followed the Unix philosophy being simple, modular, and following the principle that "everything looks like a file". ALSA does not, doing development in ALSA is a PITA.

    Why, oh why, cannot people see the beauty of keeping things simple?

    1. Re:If it ain't broke don't fix it by chromas · · Score: 1

      Because that would be too simple!

    2. Re:If it ain't broke don't fix it by Daniel+Phillips · · Score: 1

      KDE 4 and Python 3 suck.

      KDE 4 did suck when it was unstable and missing important features. Now that it's nearly to the same stability as 3.5, has nearly all the same functionality plus a bunch more it's perfectly fine, according to me. It is way more attractive visually, without being cluttered.

      There was only one real issue with KDE 4: distros shipped it six months too early (Ubuntu, Fedora, we're looking at you).

      Oh and the one thing I really really hated about KDE 4? They forced me to fall back to Gnome for a couple months.

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  53. if they mucking things up like this... by night_flyer · · Score: 1

    I'll just go to search.yahoo.com... nice and clean, just the way google used to be

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  54. I had no idea. by Eggbloke · · Score: 1

    I have been using the https version of Google since I found out about it and had no idea Google had done this. I quite like it, even if it is a bit slow loading although reading the comments it looks like the first implementation of it was a bit rubbish.

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  55. The perfect web-page by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    about:blank

    Fortunately, for the rest of us, google.com still exists and continues to improve as it has done for the past few years.

  56. Thank God by sootman · · Score: 1

    Though I like to think it was due in part to the image I uploaded once I found there was no way to get rid of it. :-)

    I did learn that you could go to "Editor's Picks" and scroll and the last one (hard to see, natch) which was "white" but then the text was still shadow-y which I think looked kinda cool on the logo but it made the small text almost impossible to read. (Not that I read the small text on the page, but it's annoying to have unreadable text visible.)

    Maybe their next innovation will be background images on the search results pages. How cool would that be?!?!?

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  57. it's a trap! by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

    And your name is Andrew Kent, living in Nampa, Idaho.

    That's exactly what he wants you to believe.

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  58. iGoogle Tab Remover by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah that really irritated me too until I found this firefox extension to remove it:

    https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/10113/

  59. Why go to Google.com to search? by no.good.at.coding · · Score: 1

    I don't get it - why do people go through that extra step of going to the Google homepage to begin searching? My browsers' home pages are set to about:blank; and when I want to Google something, I use the Search Bar in FF and the address bar in Chrome (I don't use IE if I can help it but even that has a search bar!).

    1. Re:Why go to Google.com to search? by geekoid · · Score: 1

      "I don't get it"

      I couldn't agree with you more~

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    2. Re:Why go to Google.com to search? by Mike+Mentalist · · Score: 0

      I don't get it - why do people go through that extra step of going to the Google homepage to begin searching? My browsers' home pages are set to about:blank; and when I want to Google something, I use the Search Bar in FF and the address bar in Chrome (I don't use IE if I can help it but even that has a search bar!).

      - It's what I am used to.
      - Clicking in the search bar and then pressing ALT+ENTER to make the search open in a new window isn't all that much easier and quicker than just going to the Google homepage.

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  60. Coke Classic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was also thinking this was their version of the New Coke / Coke Classic strategy.

  61. I like the Bing background by DrXym · · Score: 1

    If I had to pick one thing about Bing which was better than Google, it would be the background. They're very interesting and stimulating. Unfortunately most of the rest of the Bing service is a Google wannabe and delivers subpar results.

  62. StartPage by Requiem18th · · Score: 1

    Same here, after over a decade of Googling I switched to StartPage to see how indispensable Google really was, right in the week Google decides to do something cool with their homepage.

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  63. I liked the images, but... by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

    I found myself focusing in on how beautiful the images were, so I went to Blackel.com and could get back to work. Google has a good product, as it stands, maybe if they want to Bing Up a web page, then allow the user to select it, not just throw it on us like a wet towel.

  64. People do pay for it. by snowwrestler · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Maybe I'm just lucky, but this is spam protection I'd be willing to pay for (but please don't tell Google).

    Corporations do pay for it, as the service Postini. We use it at my company to prevent spam from getting through to our Exchange server.

    I think one reason it works so well is that between Gmail users and corporate Postini customers, Google has a huge fresh corpus of data to train the system, and to identify new spam campaigns right away. For instance if the same e-mail hits a ton of addresses at the same time, it's a good bet it's a spam campaign.

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    1. Re:People do pay for it. by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      By that logic, Hotmail should have a really good spam filter too, because they got a large number of emails. Same goes for Yahoo. And probably some other big webmail providers. But for some reason, Google seems to be the best. Yahoo is close second, and hotmail might as well not even have a spam filter. Everybody I know with hotmail (which is very few) have switched to only a whitelist of people they receive email from.

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    2. Re:People do pay for it. by Imrik · · Score: 1

      By that logic they have the potential to have a really good spam filter too, they just never actually did it.

    3. Re:People do pay for it. by billcopc · · Score: 1

      That's because Yahoo and Hotmail probably didn't pour nearly as much effort and resources as Google. It's a shame, really, because my Yahoo mail is virtually useless due to the 100:1 spam-to-ham ratio, most of it 419 and other "busienss opportunity" types of scams. You'd think they could afford to tighten it up a little, just by looking at the bandwidth and storage savings - but that's Yahoo for ya, proudly doin' it wrong since 1994.

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    4. Re:People do pay for it. by kiwimate · · Score: 1

      I don't know, man...I've had my Yahoo mail address since the mid-90s, and I have no problem with spam. I get tons of it...but it all goes into the SPAM folder. No false positives. Ever. And my yahoo address is out there all over the place. I use it probably far more freely than I should, because, well, their spam filtering just works so well (for me). Whenever I sign up for *anything*, it's using my yahoo mail address.

      I'll be candid and admit I get about one spam mail that slips through every so often; but as it's quite literally only running at the rate of three a year that do make it through, I can live with it. Certainly not "virtually useless".

      I won't compare it to gmail, because I don't use it. I have an account, but (i) everyone knows my yahoo account; (ii) I use it all the time; and (iii) I have never liked gmail, so don't use it. Just too confusing and awkward for me.

    5. Re:People do pay for it. by snowwrestler · · Score: 1

      Hotmail and Yahoo can only characterize spam that goes to Hotmail and Yahoo accounts. The point with Postini is that Google gets to characterize spam that goes to hundreds or thousands of other business domains.

      Google also might just have better technology for extracting insight from big collections of data. Most people also think Google's search engine is better than Microsoft's or Yahoo's.

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  65. Hidden Psychology by muphin · · Score: 2, Interesting

    what I believe is, Google did this on purpose to encourage people to complain.
    what this mean is 2 fold; 1. google gets in the news about a change to their site, people go to the site to check it out and complain.. 2. site gets returned to normal, people feel relaxed and happy its back and then googles some more, by doing this google refreshes its image as a simple search engine, because people still have in their minds, OMG how could you change this... boosts profits of advertising and encourages loyalty.

    People complaining about google doesn't mean much to them, especially with something minor such as changing a background. but have 20 million people see this and then realise its gone will bring (if only temporary) a sign of relief. think of it as a carrot process, you entice users by showing something they dislike and then reward them when they find something they like, it makes the users feel accomplished and feel more part of the process.

    now think of when those people are relieved they will then make use of this new fancy search engine they helped make.... even if it is an illusion.

    remember they arent just IT techs at google, they have psychologists too.

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    1. Re:Hidden Psychology by mysidia · · Score: 1

      Yes, but that would be extremely deceptive and manipulative... and Google's self-proclaimed philosophy is try not to be evil

  66. License to use.... by mysidia · · Score: 1

    When you click the new Change background image button... it displays a bunch of random images, and the text "Only select images that you have confirmed that you have the license to use."

    Oh, yes, and a search box... typing the name of an image seems to show a bunch of images from other people's public Picasa albumss

    I wonder what happens if you type 'goatse.cx' into the search box... hmm...

  67. Explanatory link required login! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I call bullcrap.
    I saw the link fine - and if it didn't want me to login to a Google account to VIEW the bloody explanation I would have read it.
    That said, I probably only saw the link because my 3G connection loaded the background image like a 2400bps modem.

  68. I kinda liked it by axl917 · · Score: 1

    Never used bing, so I had no idea about that angle. Saw the background option this morning, and now I have a nice, mist-shrouded valley for my google background.

    What's the big deal?

  69. Jumped the shark by benjto · · Score: 0

    Google jumped the shark on this one

  70. Where can I find those images? by deek · · Score: 1

    I agree with most people. The background images were quite annoying. They upset the simplicity of the Google search page.

    But, the images themselves were great. Does anybody know where Google picked them up from? Is there a handy link to browse those images? They may just make a good background for my desktop.

  71. New Coke meets Buzz by gig · · Score: 1

    This really smacked of New Coke. They should have left it off and let anyone who wanted it turn it on. Recalls the Buzz launch.

  72. Google Introduces, Scraps, Then Reintroduces... by Dexy · · Score: 1

    Looks like they've brought it back, with an option to remove it and show the normal page. I'm happy.

  73. PacMan by boring,+tired · · Score: 1

    Since they did that I've changed my browser home page to: http://www.google.com/pacman/. Nice plain white background, and you get to play Pac Man.

  74. pr0n killed the background image by AxDx · · Score: 1

    I'm willing to bet that at least 50% of uploaded images were pornography of some sorts... Y'all should have seen the thousands of posts to chan boards featuring human sexuality in all its "splendor"...

  75. I can still change the background. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oddly after everyone saying that Google pulled the option, I still can change the background...

  76. Ah personal whitelists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ah personal whitelists, is there anything they can't do.

  77. Clearly by seanieb64 · · Score: 1

    Clearly too many people still use 400 MHz PIII's or something, where a CSS driven text fade in is too much to ask. Humph.

  78. ANNNND the truth IS ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The truth is Google CAN'T CODE !!!

    Yah, they seemed to be geniuses but they really just bought all that AMAZING code from SOMEONE ELSE and now they just sit on it !!

    GOOGLE CAN'T CODE !

  79. I liked them by boarder · · Score: 1

    I can see why people wouldn't want the background image, and I remember being annoyed that I couldn't easily find a way to change or turn off the image.

    But I actually liked the splash of color the images brought to the screen. The only thing I wanted from Google was for them to give details
    on the images themselves... i.e. who took the shots, what were the shots of/where were they taken, etc.

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