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Digital Devices Deprive Brain of Needed Downtime

siliconbits writes with an excerpt from NY Times: "Technology makes the tiniest windows of time entertaining, and potentially productive. But scientists point to an unanticipated side effect: when people keep their brains busy with digital input, they are forfeiting downtime that could allow them to better learn and remember information, or come up with new ideas."

222 comments

  1. oh rly? by Pojut · · Score: 5, Funny

    Why do you think I run Windows? ::rimshot::

    1. Re:oh rly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Let me check my brains uptime ... 36 hours, needs a reboot.

    2. Re:oh rly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I didn't want to reply to this thread I would have modded your comment all of the way up to a 5.

    3. Re:oh rly? by stanlyb · · Score: 0

      Man, you are not funny, you are really very insightful. Now i now why i run windows too.

    4. Re:oh rly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because it does what you need it to?
      Because you enjoy gaming? Because you like to run an OS on whatever hardware you choose?
      Because of the vast amount of applications available for it?
      Because you don't think GUIs are evil?
      Becasue you enjoy finding drivers (that work!) for various peripherals easily?
      Because you don't treat an operating system like a lifestyle?

    5. Re:oh rly? by eulernet · · Score: 1

      Because you are idling 99% of your time ?

    6. Re:oh rly? by hazah · · Score: 1

      woosh

      Axe to grind?

    7. Re:oh rly? by node+3 · · Score: 1

      Sounds like somebody's brain didn't get enough Windows last night.

  2. Summary too long by Tobenisstinky · · Score: 0

    didn't read.

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  3. I take several short naps a day by FudRucker · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I lay down on the couch several times a day for 10 to 30 minutes and close my eyes, it does not matter if I fall asleep or not, just the act of closing my eyes and letting my mind rest does wonders for recharging my energy levels and clearing my mind of noise & clutter.

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    1. Re:I take several short naps a day by Moryath · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If only most of us could do that, rather than having shitty pointy-haired micromanager bosses who insist on minute-by-minute "productivity" scales.

      The day the 'worker productivity index' was invented was the day society started going to hell.

    2. Re:I take several short naps a day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      must be nice, I dont even see a couch for 10 hours after I wake up

    3. Re:I take several short naps a day by HungryHobo · · Score: 5, Funny

      I once heard a tale of someone who when faced with a boss who demanded updates every 15 minutes on what he was doing wrote a script which strung together meaningless management buzzwords in a vaguely sensible format and emailed them to his boss every 15 minutes.

      a few weeks later he gets an award for being a team player and keeping his boss in the loop.

      It's not like the boss ever reads them after the first day.

    4. Re:I take several short naps a day by Neil+Boekend · · Score: 1

      I do basically the same thing: I walk my dog for 30 minutes each day. The dog is well trained, so I do not have to keep close tabs on her. I let my mind wander and think of reasons to be happy. It works wonders.
      The movement even gives some exercise.

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    5. Re:I take several short naps a day by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 3, Funny

      Just set a couch as your screen background...

    6. Re:I take several short naps a day by wfstanle · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Perhaps the idea of the "seista" was right!

    7. Re:I take several short naps a day by Ironhandx · · Score: 1

      It was 100% right. If I had a 2-3 hour time period to get a nap or something in the middle of the day I'd get twice as much done in my afternoons. I currently get about half as much done in the afternoon as I get done in the morning. Leading to a trend for me of coming in early to get work done rather than staying late.

    8. Re:I take several short naps a day by gssgss · · Score: 1

      Perhaps the idea of the "seista" was right!

      The brain continues working during the sleep. Maybe it packs things in a .zip. ;-P
      P.S. Don't want to be rude, but it is spelled "siesta".

    9. Re:I take several short naps a day by hrvatska · · Score: 1

      I work from home these days, and I take one or two small lay down and doze naps each day. It makes a huge difference in my productivity and the quality of my work. I work in a very nap tolerant organization, and even when people are in the office management doesn't mind when people close their office doors to nap for a bit. Our management cares about real results, like whether you're meeting your commitments and that your clients are happy. This nap tolerant attitude may be the result of the organization consisting of older, experienced developers, architects and managers who have worked with each other for ten or more years, and trust that when you say something is going to be done by a specific date it will be completed and really ready for integration testing by that date.

    10. Re:I take several short naps a day by boristdog · · Score: 1

      You do know that at least 20% of the folks on /. do this with our daily and weekly reports to the boss anyway, right?

      Don't give away ALL our secrets!

    11. Re:I take several short naps a day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm pretty sure it was already headed there, it just opened a productivity express lane.

    12. Re:I take several short naps a day by Yvan256 · · Score: 2, Funny

      That's because his boss also had a script, which tested the updates to see if they included meaningless management buzzwords in a vaguely sensible format.

    13. Re:I take several short naps a day by BrokenHalo · · Score: 1

      The brain continues working during the sleep.

      Of course it does. Otherwise you would die, since your heart, lungs and other organs would not be getting the signals they need to perform their functions.

      Having said that, I do find it therapeutic to "switch off" for periods of time - by which I mean simply closing my eyes and going into what I call "no-time", letting my mind go blank. I find this comes quite naturally, but I guess varieties of meditation techniques should have more or less the same effect for those to whom it doesn't.

      The advantage of this over sleep is that you don't have that "groggy phase" on waking up, when all you want to do is go back to sleep.

    14. Re:I take several short naps a day by BrokenHalo · · Score: 1

      ...and think of reasons to be happy.

      Something like this?

      ...

      Cheddar cheese and pickle, the Vincent motorsickle
      Slap and tickle
      Woody Allen, Dali, Dimitri and Pasquale
      balabalabala and Volare

      Something nice to study, phoning up a buddy
      Being in my nuddy
      Saying hokey-dokey, singalonga Smokey
      Coming out of chokey

      John Coltrane's soprano, Adi Celentano
      Bonar Colleano

      (Citation)

    15. Re:I take several short naps a day by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 1

      I suggested this at a previous place; they said it was fine as long as I made up the time at the end of the day. ;)

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    16. Re:I take several short naps a day by Ironhandx · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately my timetable revolves around everyone else's. I can't take time off in the middle of the day. If I could do that I definitely would!

    17. Re:I take several short naps a day by commodore64_love · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      >>>If only most of us could do that, rather than having shitty pointy-haired micromanager bosses who insist on minute-by-minute "productivity" scales.

      Pretty much spot on. Today's managers are almost all dicks, especially since a lot of them have ZERO technical knowledge.

      OLD BOSS (fired by the company)
      NEW BOSS (tasked with cutting costs): Hello I'm pointy-haired bosses' replacement. And oh yeah, we're terminating your contract.
      ME: Why? I thought everything was going great. Look at all the work I accomplished last week (points to status report).

      BOSS: We heard from an engineer that you were watching FOX News on company time.
      ME: Yeah but it was during my lunch break. Didn't the engineer tell you I was stuffing a sandwich in my mouth at the time?
      BOSS: Doesn't matter. Also you held-up yesterday's 11 o'clock meeting by being late.
      ME: I was sitting in my seat at 10:55.

      BOSS: You should have been there earlier.
      ME: .....
      BOSS: Well why are you still standing here? Leave or I'm calling security.
      ME: Bitch.

      .

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    18. Re:I take several short naps a day by AnAdventurer · · Score: 0
      I had a megalomanic for a CEO, who was alway on IT; "what do you do?" "how do you make us money?" So I created a huge spreadsheet of "call tickets" my IT department did. It was added to rather then being weekly or monthly it was just one huge document. and I emailed it every day. You can imagine that he did not read it after scanning it the first day (I just made up the backlog of dates prior to creating the document). This was for a guy who in 2001 wanted me to update his Windows 3 computer to XP BUT make it look exactly the same. He also wanted me to reprogram his cell phone so he would never have to enter his voicemail password. None of this because he was tech savvy or that he knew I was. He just wanted stuff how he wanted it with no consideration for reality or difficulty of his request.

      Oh, I loved that job, Now I am the boss and if I want it someway I do it myself.

      As another example of how great my job was. I did a lot of work at his house (building it as a smart house), it was this 15,000 sq ft McMansion. The first thing was he said "never ever right do in your report that you worked on my house". The second thing was that one time upon knocking on the door (I often went with the plant engineer to work on the house), we were joking around as we rung the bell and the bosses trophy wife answers the door in a robe "we say avon calling" and she grabs me and says "lets do a demo in the bath I am running". The engineer says "uh, I am just going to the server room and start back on the wiring." - This was one of my more memorable corporate America experiences.

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    19. Re:I take several short naps a day by rwven · · Score: 1

      I solve a lot of work & other problems when I'm driving on the way to or from work. I spend about 2 hrs in the car per day... It's amazing when your brain isn't "busy," how many solutions just "spontaneously" come to you.

    20. Re:I take several short naps a day by rwven · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I generally just ignore those weekly/daily/whatever status report calendar events. If they want to see what I'm doing, they can look at how empty my sprint story list is getting. I'm just utterly uninterested in wasting more time telling people what I'm doing when I already do in a daily standup meeting once per day. I can't stand management types that get all uptight about junk like this.

    21. Re:I take several short naps a day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am trying to find the "Read the rest of this comment . . ." link but it doesn't seem to be there.

    22. Re:I take several short naps a day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why the fuck would you want to read MORE of that drivel?

    23. Re:I take several short naps a day by tophermeyer · · Score: 1

      I can't stand management types that get all uptight about junk like this.

      Think of it this way, if you're an IT Professional you always want to be aware of what your system is up to, what its current weaknesses are, and what the status is of whatever task you've set it to run. Managers have to do kind of the same thing, except they have to do it with people.

      Super basic example: If your computer refused to respond to your queries and stopped giving you information, but was obviously still running some kind of process, you would probably reboot it. If it persisted you would likely open it up to see whats wrong, and would eventually replace it. Imagine how frustrated Manager must be to have the same symptoms with the people they manage.

    24. Re:I take several short naps a day by jsebrech · · Score: 1

      That's why god invented the rest room. If anyone complains, tell them you have irritable bowel syndrome.

      It's what I do when I get stuck on a programming problem. Works every time.

    25. Re:I take several short naps a day by rwven · · Score: 1

      Except if I dont ask for updates of what my CPU is doing every billion cycles.

      If suddenly nothing is getting done, I know something is wrong. A daily standup + watching burndown charts & task lists is all that someone need in order to detect this.

      Anything else is a HUGE detriment to productivity, and there are plenty of studies proving this, and the inverse. Anyone ever heard of the "hour long ten minute meeting?"

    26. Re:I take several short naps a day by priegog · · Score: 1

      That's called meditation, and I believe I've read some place or another that it MIGHT actually make you feel more rested than an actual nap.
      I've done it on and off for years... In the end the line between sleeping and that meditative state becomes really blurry, to the point where I've had dreams while simultaneously being listening (and understanding, and being able to repeat afterwards) to something someone was saying...

      OK, OK, so I was in class at those times... what's the worst that could happen? (even tho it seems like a joke this post is 100% serious)

    27. Re:I take several short naps a day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      never ever right do in your report that you worked on my house

      WTF does this mean? I managed to figure out the rest of the post, despite the terrible English, but I simply couldn't decipher this at all.

    28. Re:I take several short naps a day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wrote a program to do that for me. Now I'm twice as productive!

    29. Re:I take several short naps a day by Phoghat · · Score: 1

      Was he the pointy haired boss from Dilbert?

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    30. Re:I take several short naps a day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Especially when doing manual labor in hot climates - the siesta allows you to avoid working in the hottest part of the day, and get more work done.

    31. Re:I take several short naps a day by baerm · · Score: 1

      You're comment has a couple mistakes, it should be 'never ever write in your report...'.

      But most importantly, in English you must always start these stories with, "I never though this would happen to me,". Your English teachers were sorely lacking...

  4. Instant distractions by Defenestrar · · Score: 2

    This is the very reason I don't have a cell phone* and haven't used an instant messenger in years. It is also the same reason that I only check personal email at most once a day (They call it mail for a reason). If I'm at home or the office than the land line works very well - if I'm not there than I'm busy anyway.

    *People ask how can you manage that - I tell them it's a little secret called forethought or planning.

    1. Re:Instant distractions by PocariSweat1991 · · Score: 2, Funny

      This is the very reason I don't have a cell phone

      I met a gentleman last night who recently purchased a Droid phone and claimed that it's the first mobile phone that he's ever owned. When I asked him why he didn't own one before, he responded:

      "I thought cell phones were only useful for buying drugs."

      I think he also has a 5-digit slashdot user id

    2. Re:Instant distractions by halfaperson · · Score: 5, Funny

      *People ask how can you manage that - I tell them it's a little secret called forethought or planning.

      I usually tell them it's a little secret called "no friends".

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    3. Re:Instant distractions by oodaloop · · Score: 4, Funny

      "I thought cell phones were only useful for buying drugs."

      There's an app for that.

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    4. Re:Instant distractions by Defenestrar · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Nah - it's real friends. They care enough to be reliable, know the contingencies, and not be offended if something crazy happens.

    5. Re:Instant distractions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Possibly busy waiting for someone who had a last minute problem and could not contact you to cancel.

      *People ask don't you get distracted by your mobile - I tell them it's a little secret called the off button.

    6. Re:Instant distractions by HungryHobo · · Score: 1

      I've got a cell phone but I only give the number to people I actually want to hear from.
      All the pros, none of the cons.

    7. Re:Instant distractions by Exitar · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      So getting distracted to post on /. is planned?

      1. Read three posts per hour
      2. Read TFA every three hours
      3. Post a comment every seven hours.

    8. Re:Instant distractions by maxwell+demon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This is the very reason I don't have a cell phone

      You know, cell phones have a very useful functionality: You can switch them off. The advantage of a switched-off cell phone vs. no cell phone is that you can quickly get a working cell phone in case you need one: Just switch it on. Moreover, you get great times between battery recharges this way.

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    9. Re:Instant distractions by somersault · · Score: 1

      I generally agree with your sentiment of planning ahead, and often leave my phone behind if I've already pre-arranged plans with people, but how are phones any better than IM or email in terms of distraction?

      You can't really defer a phone call without then getting into voice mail territory, which is way more annoying (and time consuming) than just reading an email. And a proper phone conversation requires input from two people simultaneously, rather than one person being able to go and do some work while the other person thinks and types up a response.

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    10. Re:Instant distractions by Neil+Boekend · · Score: 1

      2. Read TFA every three hours

      No, you don't read TFA. TFA is so overrated!

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    11. Re:Instant distractions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well duh. Who'd want to hear from a convict?

    12. Re:Instant distractions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nah - it's real friends. They care enough to be reliable, know the contingencies, and not be offended if something crazy happens.

      Your set of GI Joe action figures?

    13. Re:Instant distractions by theeddie55 · · Score: 1

      4. ...
      5. Profit!

    14. Re:Instant distractions by turkeyfish · · Score: 1

      In denial eh?

    15. Re:Instant distractions by mea37 · · Score: 1

      How nice for you that you've found it comfortable to get by without a cell phone. It's too bad you feel the need to condescend to those who find cell phones useful. (Actually, it suggests you're probably compensating for the fact that you really aren't as happy with your choice as you'd like others to believe; but I digress.)

      I plan ahead, and then I carry a cell phone in case reality interferes with my plans. This also allows me to quickly change my plans if an opportunity arises.

      But then, some people don't value flexibility and are willing to accept any inconvenience resulting from a plan breaking down; if you're one of those, good for you.

    16. Re:Instant distractions by Defenestrar · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well, and Barbie for the girl friends. How do you know my system so well?

    17. Re:Instant distractions by element-o.p. · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I use a slightly different mechanism: I turn the ringer to silent, and don't empty my voice mail. If I see you've called *and* I actually want to talk to you, I'll call you back.

      The problem is, I loathe telephones. Typically, when the phone rings, it's because someone expects me to drop whatever I'm doing RIGHT NOW and attend to whatever it is they need. Worse, when I'm talking to people on the telephone, they tend to feel slighted if I don't give them my full and undivided attention. So if I'm at work trying to, you know, work, and my phone rings, the expectation is that I will immediately cease work to chat/be a chimney while they vent/solve the world's problems/whatever. Maybe I'm just a curmudgeon, but I find that rather irritating.

      I much prefer text messages or e-mail, since I can look at it and get back to you when I actually have the CPU cycles to devote to whatever it is you need.

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    18. Re:Instant distractions by Defenestrar · · Score: 1

      Switched off cell phones still cost money. Stash an old cell phone and charger in the car for the 911 emergencies. Phone booths still exist, most stores (especially restaurants) have one they'll let a customer use, and (I live in a fairly populated area) not many strangers will refuse $5 for a 2 minute call on their phone. It's a cost/benefit and convenience thing - I just happen to fall on the minority side of the balance.

    19. Re:Instant distractions by Mister+Whirly · · Score: 1

      I like to be able to be flexible in my planning so that if something changes last minute that I planned hours ago, I want to know about it before I waste my time trying to meet someone who isn't there. The "distraction" of having a cell phone, and looking at it for a minute, could save me many more minutes of wasted time.

      I remember a time when I lived kind of like you try to. It was called the 1980s - land lines only, had to find a pay phone if not at home. No email, Facebook, Google Calendar, Instant Messaging, text messaging, etc. at all. Planning things sucked back then compared to now, I wouldn't want to take a giant step backwards.

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    20. Re:Instant distractions by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 1

      I don't have a cell phone either. It's not called a "cell" because it's short for "cellular"...

      I've got a packed social schedule, two kids, and I do on-site inspections fairly often at work. (I'm an EE.) They just aren't necessary tools.

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    21. Re:Instant distractions by BrokenHalo · · Score: 1

      And a proper phone conversation requires input from two people simultaneously, rather than one person being able to go and do some work while the other person thinks and types up a response.

      ...Which is where SMS steps in. Sure, it's not always free, but in a world where a majority of people still don't have smartphones and/or are not tied to their desktop/laptop computer day and night, SMS is a perfectly convenient means of conveying a message that doesn't really need an immediate (or indeed any) reply.

    22. Re:Instant distractions by mmaniaci · · Score: 1

      Be sure to wave to the rest of us as the the world passes you by.

      Communication is incredibly important to Humanity, and the more we have the more informed the common man is (huzzah). Having a cellphone doesn't mean you have to play Faceville on it the moment your day becomes idle.

    23. Re:Instant distractions by Defenestrar · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I never mentioned anything about people who generally use cell phones. I'm sorry if it was taken otherwise. My "flame bait" footnote is actually only directed toward the subset of people who find it absolutely inconceivable that anyone could successfully manage one's life without a cell phone. I've been attacked by that type of person as if I had suggested something absurd such as not immunizing children. It was not my attempt (or in my text) to disparage the usefulness of cell phones. I had one for a while, but I got rid of it based on cost/usefulness for my lifestyle.

      Flexibility in communication is valuable, but it does have a certain cost - typically $500 to $1000 a year (and a contract), although there are sometimes lower cost options for maybe $100 to $300 a year depending on what type of prepaid contract is offered in one's area.

      Flexibility can also be built into plans. For example if my friend(s) are late to the restaurant I can go in so as to not lose our reservation. After say five to fifteen minutes I can ask to borrow the restaurant's phone to call the friend. If no answer I can decide (with the people with me if there are others) to order appetizers and wait longer, order the whole meal (possibly something for the missing friend), or tip the waiter and let someone waiting actually have the table so they can eat. It's possible that we all know where to go after dinner too. I have found that plans can break down with and without portable communication. There is also the fact that under-planned events (I'll meet you at the fair vs. I'll meet you by the long haired rabbits) can break down because someone forgets a phone, the battery dies, or the signal is wacky.

      You also lose the middle range of spontaneity if you don't have a cell phone. If you are in the neighborhood you would have to find a pay phone first before being able to call a friend to drop in or meet at a local coffee shop. You can still go for the bigger option of ringing the doorbell (possibly already having acquired two coffees). Again - you can have that range back for about $500 to $1000 a year.

      Managing life without a portable phone is perfectly reasonable for many people (not so reasonable for the traveling repairman). It can take a little more thorough planning and a little more flexibility if plans go wrong (contingencies - planned and spontaneous), security in one's ability to deal with problems that come up (hyperbole: walk in a straight line, living off the land, until you hit the ocean, then follow the coast until you hit a town with a phone), and enough confidence (in yourself and your relationships) that you don't feel the compulsion for instantly available communication. Having a cell phone doesn't mean you don't have any or all of the above routinely going for you, but people who don't believe that it's possible cope without a cell phone seem to do so out of a deficiency of one of the above.

    24. Re:Instant distractions by BrokenHalo · · Score: 1

      I have two or three friends who refuse to carry a cellphone (and definitely not through any financial constraint, since the worst offender is a multi-millionaire), but who always seem to think it's OK to make it my problem to maintain contact for social arrangements. An insistence on all communication being via email seems roughly equivalent to notifying you that all "arrangements must be submitted in triplicate to our lawyers to be forwarded to our client via his secretary". Needless to say, I get a bit cranky at this attitude. I was a slow adopter of cellphones (my first device was bought in 2001), but since such usage is now close to 100% in the "Western" world, a refusal to move with the times is punishing one's friends - assuming they exist.

      Incidentally, I have considered setting an email filter for the rich luddite I mentioned earlier: something along the lines of "Traffic from your IP address block is suspended: please submit your message via avian carrier."

    25. Re:Instant distractions by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      Switched off cell phones still cost money.

      Not if you use prepaid.

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    26. Re:Instant distractions by commodore64_love · · Score: 1

      That doesn't sound strange at all. Most people don't need cellphones. In my whole life I've owned exactly two:

      An old analog phone from circa 1999 which cost me $10/month. When the battery stopped working, I upgraded to a Virgin Mobile Nokia phone at $0.00/month and 18 cents per minute or per text. I make sure not to give the number to anybody (except close friends/family), so they cannot disturb me and disrupt my calm.

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    27. Re:Instant distractions by jazman_777 · · Score: 1

      Nice defense mechanism: someone finds a better way to contentment, and you say he's "condescending." Must've hit a raw nerve.

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    28. Re:Instant distractions by Defenestrar · · Score: 1

      I haven't found any prepaid minutes that don't expire in my area. Or prepaid plans that continue if you don't pre-pay $x per month. Heck, I'd be willing to spend $0.20 to $0.50 per minute for a no contract non-expiring prepaid. I haven't looked too hard recently, but I did do a little searching when my wife was pregnant a while back.

    29. Re:Instant distractions by commodore64_love · · Score: 1

      >>>Switched off cell phones still cost money.

      Not if you have a plan with Virgin Mobile (like I do) which only charges you when you make a call (18 cents per minute). And while you're correct restaurants and gas stations do let you use their wired phone, sometimes your car will break down miles away from such services. I'd rather make the call to AAA from the cool of my car rather than walk-around in the hot summer sun.

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    30. Re:Instant distractions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Link needed please.

    31. Re:Instant distractions by karcirate · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I don't bother turning off the ringer. I just ignore calls anytime I feel like it. When someone complains, I tell them that I have a phone for my convenience, not theirs. That one simple line is enough to explain my position and usually also piss them off :)

    32. Re:Instant distractions by Defenestrar · · Score: 1

      You're grandfathered into their old plan. I'm kicking myself for not getting it a while ago. They're still pretty reasonable these days with $20 per three months basic connection and $0.20 per minute used, but that's not quite the same thing.

    33. Re:Instant distractions by mea37 · · Score: 1

      No, someone says "I don't need a cell phone because I plan ahead", implying that anyone who uses a cell phone does not plan as well as he, and I call that condescending. Nice try, though.

    34. Re:Instant distractions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What a foolish narrow minded person you are

    35. Re:Instant distractions by bzipitidoo · · Score: 1

      Virgin Mobile is $15 per 3 months if you set up automatic billing, otherwise $20 as you say. I had that for a while, at the strenuous insistence of several employers. But the credit card kept screwing it up and refusing the charges. Also, my voicemail was totally hosed. Couldn't delete old messages. Didn't like that Nokia Shorty phone either. So I let the account lapse.

      Do you know of a cell phone service that doesn't have recurring charges? I wouldn't mind having some sort of plan that only charges by the minute.

      --
      Intellectual Property is a monopolistic, selfish, and defective concept. It is "tyranny over the mind of man"
    36. Re:Instant distractions by tophermeyer · · Score: 1

      Maybe I'm just a curmudgeon, but I find that rather irritating.

      Trust me, that's not at all curmudgeony. I also find it really irritating.

      But I also find it irritating when I do need to call someone on an urgent issue and they don't seem to give me their attention. In my opinion, texting and e-mail is great for communication that doesn't need to be addressed right this second. If I can wait on the response, I will e-mail. If I need help now, I will pick up the phone and call. When I answer the phone I am prepared to give them my attention at least long enough to prioritize the call. If I'm too busy I ignore it and wait to hear the voicemail, then I can return the call when I can give the person my full attention.

      My problem is that I think that approach is so logical that I tend to expect other people to do the same.

    37. Re:Instant distractions by node+3 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      That doesn't sound strange at all.

      It is very strange, these days.

      Most people don't need cellphones.

      Who said 'need'?

      In my whole life I've owned exactly two:

      And you're rather strange, QED.

    38. Re:Instant distractions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have hit upon why young people don't call their friends and instead just text. (Well, that and they've never heard of IM. ;)) I think that might be the opposite of being a curmudgeon.

    39. Re:Instant distractions by theaveng · · Score: 1

      They're still pretty reasonable these days with $20 per three months basic connection and $0.20 per minute used,

      That's the same plan C64love was discussing. You don't pay a $20 fee. You buy $20 credit towards your phone, which is gradually used up by 20 cent minutes. Just like a calling card.

      Put another way: $20 buys you 100 minutes that never expire. (As opposed to ATT's basic plan which charges $10 monthly fee and gives you no minutes.) Virgin's actual monthly fee is zero.

      --
      FOX NEWS.com should be BANNED from television and internet. Have the Congress take it over and give us Truespeak.
    40. Re:Instant distractions by theaveng · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't mind having some sort of plan that only charges by the minute.

      VirginMobile. There's no monthly fee and you pay 20 cents per minute. (Just like a calling card.) The only "catch" is they expect you to add 5 dollars credit each month to your calling card... I mean phone... but that's no big deal.

      It's odd you had credit card problems. I've never had any, except once, and Virgin gave me three free months as an apology. They have generous customer service that like to give-away free stuff (or credits). My voicemail works perfectly too.

      --
      FOX NEWS.com should be BANNED from television and internet. Have the Congress take it over and give us Truespeak.
    41. Re:Instant distractions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ouch.

    42. Re:Instant distractions by somersault · · Score: 1

      Sure, I love text messages, but this guy doesn't even want a cell phone for calls on the go, let alone IM style messaging..

      --
      which is totally what she said
    43. Re:Instant distractions by commodore64_love · · Score: 1

      So if I don't conform to the Consumerist society, and instead to save money by only buying two cellphones over ~15 years time, that makes me "strange". I see.....

      Did I just step into that movie THX-1138, where people buy stuff just to buy stuff, even when it's illogical to so do?

      --
      "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - historian Evelyn Beatrice Hall
    44. Re:Instant distractions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, being different from the majority can be seen as "strange". Is that really such a hard concept for you to understand, Troll64? I mean, no one said it was bad or wrong, but you seem to automatically assume it is. How about just accepting the fact that you're different from everyone else instead of going "I'm not strange, you're strange."

    45. Re:Instant distractions by FiloEleven · · Score: 1

      Maybe the guy looking for drugs.

    46. Re:Instant distractions by node+3 · · Score: 1

      So if I don't conform to the Consumerist society, and instead to save money by only buying two cellphones over ~15 years time, that makes me "strange". I see.....

      Yes! That's exactly my point.

      Did I just step into that movie THX-1138, where people buy stuff just to buy stuff, even when it's illogical to so do?

      Why is it illogical to buy a cell phone (more than two per fifteen years or whatever your arbitrary cutoff is)?

      You are strange, not that there's anything wrong with that.

  5. tl;dr by gandhi_2 · · Score: 4, Funny

    NPR had a long thing on this the other day. Supposedly it kills our attention span. Or something, tl;dl.

    1. Re:tl;dr by hodet · · Score: 1

      ya probably bs.....squirrel!!!

  6. Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This explains a lot. I ran a linux system during my youth, which explains why my memory is completely shot! No downtime at all :(

  7. Wow by The+MAZZTer · · Score: 4, Funny

    Did Slashdot just advise us to cut back on Slashdot?

    1. Re:Wow by oodaloop · · Score: 1

      I guess a Slashdot app for iPhone won't be coming out anytime soon either.

      --
      Tic-Tac-Toe, Global Thermonuclear War, and relationships all have the same winning move.
    2. Re:Wow by Red+Flayer · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, but it explains why in Soviet Slashdot, the same old jokes rehash you!

      We're not capable of being creative enough to think of original jokes.

      --
      "Trolls they were, but filled with the evil will of their master: a fell race..." -- J.R.R. Tolkien on Olog-hai
    3. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did Slashdot just advise us to cut back on Slashdot?

      When the crack dealer suggests that maybe you don't need any crack this week, it's not because he actually wants you to cut back, it's because he wants to you to imagine having to cut back, panic, and let him jack up the price.

    4. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did they? I didn't bother to read the summary so I'll take your word on that.

    5. Re:Wow by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 1

      We're not capable of being creative enough to think of original jokes.

      What? I thought Commander Taco was an original joke!

      HAAAAAHAHAAAHAAHARROFLLALALAOLOLOL!!11!!eleventy!!!

      --
      "City hall" in German is "Rathaus" Kinda explains a few things......
    6. Re:Wow by Psmylie · · Score: 2, Funny

      Why spend all that time and energy creating new jokes when recycled jokes is so much more efficient? Think green, dammit!

      People often overlook the horrible environmental effects of joke pollution. Re-using old jokes instead of letting them just litter our society could reduce that significantly, and also save many old comedians from complete extinction.

      Won't someone please think of the old comedians?!

      I re-use old jokes all the time. Just ask my wife. She'll tell you all about it. At length, apparently.

      --

      psmylie's dictionary: Godzillion (noun) Any number large enough to destroy Tokyo

    7. Re:Wow by dooglio · · Score: 1

      It reminds me of the joke where a guy gets sent to prison for life. The first night he's trying to sleep and in the darkness he hears someone shout, "Number 17!". The entire jail breaks out in peals of laughter. After a while, another voice shouts out, "Number 756!" followed by even more uproarious laughter.

      After a while, the guy turns to his cell mate in the lower bunk and says, "What the hell is going on? Why are people laughing at these numbers?" His cell mate chuckles. "You know, we have all been in this prison for so long that we've told the same jokes over an over again because we used them all up. So we decided that to save time, we would number each one. Now all we have to do is say the number."

      "That's unreal!" he exclaims in disbelief. He thinks for a while, "Hey, can I try that? What's a really funny one?"

      His cell mate thinks for a while, then says, "Oh, hey try this one. Number 367. Gets them every time."

      So the newbie stands up and shouts "Number 367!" Silence. He tries it again, "Number 367!" Silence again.

      "Hey, what's up?! I thought you said this joke was funny?" he demands, exasperated and a bit embarrassed.

      "It's not the joke you're telling that's not funny, man," His cell mate replies, "it's the way you're telling it!"

  8. I'd be fine by ooji · · Score: 2, Funny

    if it wasn't for http://xkcd.com/386/.

    1. Re:I'd be fine by blair1q · · Score: 1

      I remember that.

      He'd still be there if I hadn't gotten off the board.

    2. Re:I'd be fine by TheVelvetFlamebait · · Score: 1

      I've never met anyone who's been wrong on the internet. I doubt such people would exist.

      (Try resting now!)

      --
      You know, there is a difference between trolling and pointing out the flaws in your reasoning. Just saying.
  9. Sanity management by your_neighbor · · Score: 1

    Indeed, I learned this while studying for my thesys.
    How I proceed: Before gym, I read something very deep and complex. Just 1 sentence or equation. Then I would do my regular exercises, sometimes wondering what I read, implications and etc.
    It must have something about internal brain/body chemistry, but the union is productive and healthy.
    I dont use iStuff in the process, since today Im a bit sensitive to media overloads (images/sounds).
    Also, I discovered that I already lost sensibility to sounds. I recommend everybody to avoid too loud music, since our life expectation is high and I dont intend to be a deaf old guy at 100 yr old.

  10. No surprice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    [Zoidberg] Look I'm contributing!
    [Prof] Good news everyone! This news must come as NO surprise at all so it might surprise that this is news!
    [Fry] I'm confused, should I be surprised I'm not surprised?
    [Prof] Stop taking up my brain uptime, you fool!! And stop talking in this strangly slightly annoying yet entertaining stereotypical voice.

  11. Going for a run or a ride... by txoof · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I really value my exercise time for this 'down time.' I can't stand running with headphones because I can't get lost in the moment. Going out for a nice long run (or a walk) on Sunday morning when you have a problem to mull over is just about the greatest way to find some insight and a new angle on it. I've composed term papers and had some wonderful insights into my life and relationships while on runs.

    As I get older, I also find that I need to turn off more and more distractions if I really want to get anything serious done. I close the web browser, turn off the IM and silence the phone (I'd turn it off, but it takes so freaking long to reboot, it's obnoxious). I remember a time in my youth that I'd have 12 things going on at once, watching TV, playing video games and maybe even music running somewhere. I think I was being productive, but looking back, I question that. Perhaps my abilities to 'multi-task' have diminished as I've aged, but I think that I've just become more adept at recognizing shoddy work. What about you all? Have you fond that as you get older, you need more quite time to think than you did when you were younger? Do little distractions like email and IMs really cut into your productivity?

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    This one's tricky. You have to use imaginary numbers, like eleventeen... --Hobbes
    1. Re:Going for a run or a ride... by Defenestrar · · Score: 1

      I think I was being productive, but looking back, I question that. Perhaps my abilities to 'multi-task' have diminished as I've aged, but I think that I've just become more adept at recognizing shoddy work. What about you all? Have you fond that as you get older, you need more quite time to think than you did when you were younger?

      As you get older you (hopefully) realize the value of thinking all the way through before acting. Hence the phrase "older and wiser."

    2. Re:Going for a run or a ride... by txoof · · Score: 3, Funny

      Ahh - Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.

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      This one's tricky. You have to use imaginary numbers, like eleventeen... --Hobbes
    3. Re:Going for a run or a ride... by Kamineko · · Score: 1

      The moral of the story: judge everything constantly.

    4. Re:Going for a run or a ride... by Abcd1234 · · Score: 1

      I can't stand running with headphones because I can't get lost in the moment.

      Plus, then you can hear cars and cyclists coming.

      I can't tell you how many times I've had to skirt around an idiot running or cycling on a dual-use path with their music jacked high enough they can't hear my bell...

    5. Re:Going for a run or a ride... by turkeyfish · · Score: 1

      Thats why its called the SCHOOL of hard knocks.

    6. Re:Going for a run or a ride... by bemymonkey · · Score: 1

      I've had exactly the same experience. Used to work with music or TV shows running, now I can't concentrate with the slightest bit of noise.

    7. Re:Going for a run or a ride... by turkeyfish · · Score: 1

      No, it would seem just the opposite. Take time off to pass no judgments until you have been able to think things through by not distracting essential components of your "subconscious" brain by your "conscious" brain.

    8. Re:Going for a run or a ride... by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 1

      I really value my exercise time for this 'down time.' I can't stand running with headphones because I can't get lost in the moment.

      I listen to my iPod while lifting weights & also watch headline news on TV doing the elliptical. I find it helps me to keep up my pace and also makes the time go by faster, and sometimes power through the pain.

      As I get older, I also find that I need to turn off more and more distractions if I really want to get anything serious done.

      I'm totally with you on that one. These days during my lunch, I work on improving my computer programming skills. I go some place isolated, having only the laptop. I leave my phone at my desk, I don't surf the web or check my e-mail. I learn more during that hour than I usually do with 8 hours of work, due to constant phone calls, e-mail, etc. I think for home I need to get a good pair of noise canceling headphones.

      --
      Taking guns away from the 99% gives the 1% 100% of the power.
    9. Re:Going for a run or a ride... by BJ_Covert_Action · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Have you fond that as you get older, you need more quite time to think than you did when you were younger? Do little distractions like email and IMs really cut into your productivity?

      I'm 24 now. As I've grown out of my college years I've noticed this to be true. I can turn out more stuff (poetry, blog updates, electronic gizmos, whatever I'm working on) if I keep the instant messengers closed. I also like to have my door closed because my roomate has a bad habit of popping into my room to show me "the funniest thing ever" on Youtube which is usually a 10 second clip of someone injuring themselves. I don't really have the problem with music though. However, I do make a point to tune my internet radio station to a type of music that would make an appropriate soundtrack for whatever I am working on (for instance, if I am writing up a short story about a swordfight, the music would be some kind of kick-ass symphonic metal, or something similar). I do notice, however, that as I get older I have more of a tendency to turn on music and just stare at a wall while sipping a nice glass of whiskey. I used to always just think of music as appropriate background noise. These days I treat it almost like T.V., where I want to take the time to get lost in it.

    10. Re:Going for a run or a ride... by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      "I really value my exercise time for this 'down time.' I can't stand running with headphones because I can't get lost in the moment. "

      I'm the opposite...I find that I really LOVE tunes when exercising, both with weights and aerobic (mostly walk/running). I find that it distracts me from the 'pain' aspect, and especially the boring monotonous part of walking/running. I love slinging weights, but do not enjoy the aerobic stuff, but to me...it is a very necessary evil.

      Especially in my past...when doing things like studying for finals, etc, I found that if I was in a completely silent room, my mind would wander, and I'd find myself soon doing things ranging from cleaning the apt (never cleaner than during finals)...to learning to juggle oranges.

      However, if I had the tv on in the background, or threw on a bunch of CD's on the changer...I'd hum along tap my pen...etc, while I could study and concentrate. I'd find often after awhile, I'd played through all the CD's...and not realized or remembered much of what was going on. Strange.

      I find I'm the same way when trying to sleep....if it is pitch black, and silent, I have a hard time shutting off my brain to go to sleep. So, I always set my TV on the timer, and at a fairly low volume where I can barely hear it...and drift off to sleep, and it turns itself off when I crash.

      I've always been this way...only recently is there a major exception, and that is at work...I find that often when in a tense situation, needing research and troubleshooting, I can't don the headphones usually, but like you mentioned, maybe that is age?

      --
      Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
    11. Re:Going for a run or a ride... by OrigamiMarie · · Score: 1

      Physiologically speaking, a person gets less power to run everything as they get older, especially their brains. It makes sense that you have less ability to multi-thread and context-switch as you get older; those are expensive.

    12. Re:Going for a run or a ride... by O('_')O_Bush · · Score: 1

      IMs used to, but I've stopped responding to most emails/IMs long ago.

      Instead, I get distracted by youtube/short videogames.

      On the other hand, once I get ramped up and there's some amount of white noise (music, tv, etc) in the background, it's hard to get distracted by anything until whatever I'm working on is done.

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    13. Re:Going for a run or a ride... by SleazyRidr · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I sit out on my balcony a couple of nights a week with a fine single malt and a fine cigar and just watch the world go past. When I was telling one of my friends he was amazed that I could sit for so long without doing anything. I can't understand how he's so constantly doing things.

    14. Re:Going for a run or a ride... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      "I think I was being productive, but looking back, I question that."

      man, you are absolutely right -- whether you like or abhor pbs, they did a documentary about how connected kids are. They had college kids from MIT & Stanford take basic memory tests while "multitasking" then while not "multitasking". Before the memory tests, the kids just *knew* how awesomely smart they were and as such they *knew* that their memory functioned the same know matter distractions were present. After the test they were given their scores and guess what? They had shitty scores while multitasking. It was great seeing the look on their faces when presented with the shitty scores. Turns out, one has a false sense of being in control when juggling so many tasks, which leads to a false sense of productivity. Also, I agree with you that exercising is far better when done outdoors & without tunes, etc.

      "Perhaps my abilities to 'multi-task' have diminished as I've aged, but I think that I've just become more adept at recognizing shoddy work."

      recently I saw a documentary (don't have time to look it up now) -- the middle aged brain is plastic, it doesn't fade/diminish in terms of performance, due in large part to our ability to use experience to weed out the bullshit in front of us & focus on what's truly important (ahhh, I'm busted: as I typed those words I just realized that I'M ON /. , so at the age of 41, I must get back to what's truly important :-)

    15. Re:Going for a run or a ride... by Reziac · · Score: 1

      There was a study a while back (discussed here, too) which determined that kids NEED downtime to assimilate what they've learned -- so that "time wasted" digging in the dirt, watching ants, gazing at clouds, and generally doing nothing useful, is actually the most important part of a kid's day in terms of how well that child will assimilate what he's learned in school.

      I doubt it's really all that different for adults. We used to have our downtime in fairly mindless pursuits -- whether that was weeding or running or watching drivel like Baywatch. Why was that drivel the most popular show of its era? Because it didn't demand *anything* of the viewer (not even close attention, since it was the same basic formula every week), thus provided necessary DOWNTIME for tired corporate brains.

      But now we fill that adult downtime with bursts of activity, all of which demand SOME attention from our brains. And we fill kids' lives with Stuff until they've not a moment left to just be kids doing "useless" kid things.

      And then we wonder why we've become Short Attention Span World.

      I would hazard that an average child's "inability to sit still" in school is inversely proprotional to how much downtime he gets. If that downtime is lacking, the squirmy kid brain tries to find it, by attempting escape from the constrained situation. I say this having thought back to when I was in grade school -- squirmy was NOT the norm, we were all pretty well behaved and paid attention in class. BUT -- 40 years ago, outside of school, we were just KIDS. No demands were made of our time, and we didn't have the plethora of "after-school activities" and online social obligations that kids do today. We had DOWNTIME, which I contend in turn allowed us to RELAX when we had to be in a structured learning situation (ie. regular public school).

      Now get off my lawn!

      --
      ~REZ~ #43301. Who'd fake being me anyway?
    16. Re:Going for a run or a ride... by dten · · Score: 1

      Have to agree with you about needing more time to think as you grow older. I think it's a function of growing aware of more detail in whatever you do; with experience, you've learned to recognize the difference between mediocre and good, and good often takes a lot more thought and energy, thus requiring fewer distractions in your day.

      When we're younger, our primary function is to consume information and learn; as we age, that balance shifts to a primary function of creation and output based on our experience, which is a much more internally driven process.

    17. Re:Going for a run or a ride... by BrokenHalo · · Score: 1

      Noise cancelling headphones won't do you much good at home unless you're under a flight-path or next to a railway line or main road. They are very good at letting human voices come through. I have a good pair of NC cans, but I now only use them on planes or (very rarely) buses.

      If you want quiet or silence, you need ear-muffs and/or really good ear-plugs.

    18. Re:Going for a run or a ride... by CAIMLAS · · Score: 1

      I'm only 28, but I'm finding that I'm able to do that "extreme multitasking" less and less as I get older. I've got to take more steps back and look at the big picture to not get lost in the web of projects and tasks, as it is.

      I do, however, still have some fairly intense multitasking periods, and they're quite productive. I can't sustain it, but I'm much more productive than I ever used to be in similar sessions - largely due to experience.

      Of course, what I call "multitasking" and what the common person calls "multitasking" are two distinctly different things. I'll have close to 12 applications/windows going at a time, though I tend to only focus on 2-3 tasks at a time, due to finding that this is what my brain maxes out at.

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    19. Re:Going for a run or a ride... by jsebrech · · Score: 1

      I find my efficiency increases by sequentializing the tasks into a stream. Research I've read seems to back this up. We're not meant to do a lot of context switching (the brain sucks at context switching). That's also why it's better to group tasks together by subject matter, even if that means you'll do a low priority task before a high priority one.

    20. Re:Going for a run or a ride... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you judge everything (ie. exercise either bad OR good judgement) constantly, you'll either be making reassuring good judgements or educational bad judgements.

    21. Re:Going for a run or a ride... by BJ_Covert_Action · · Score: 3, Interesting

      When I was telling one of my friends he was amazed that I could sit for so long without doing anything. I can't understand how he's so constantly doing things.

      He might be distracting himself from the reality of his own thoughts. If you tend to have an overly self-critical personality, or if you are generally unhappy about your present life situation, then sitting and doing nothing can afford you the opportunity to face the unpleasant thoughts that can come with such territory. Similarly, if your friend feels lonely, sitting around alone would afford him the opportunity to ponder his situation, which he may not want to do. I know I've had periods in my life where I had to keep myself distracted in order to avoid facing the pains that come along with heartbreak, a loss of a friend, etc. Watching the world go by, as you describe, tends to let reality settle in on one's self-awareness. That can be a hard thing to cope with.

      Alternatively, your friend might just be the kind of person that values action above thought. There's nothing wrong with that, and I would wager that constantly doing things helps to fulfill your friend in ways nobody but himself understands. Ah well, to each their own.

    22. Re:Going for a run or a ride... by txoof · · Score: 1

      I just finished working at an urban school that has a gardening program as part of the daily curriculum for the entire school. We don't just garden, we teach biology, ecology and earth science, but there's a good chunk of time devoted to digging and exploring. Our school also offers an extended day (semi manditory) from 1530-1700 where students take dance, art, read comics, gardening, and sports. Our directors feel that this sllightly structured time both keeps kids out of trouble after school and provides them with time to process what they've learned surfing the day.

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    23. Re:Going for a run or a ride... by Reziac · · Score: 1

      Sounds like good ideas to me. And opportunity for urban kids who might otherwise never get a chance to try "dirt pursuits" like gardening.

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      ~REZ~ #43301. Who'd fake being me anyway?
  12. I can daydream listening to mp3s by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I don't know about watching visuals, but I can get into a similar meditative state to jogging when I listen to music. Good for problem solving.

    You can also do this kind of thing while driving. So much so that you can often forget the details of how you got somewhere.

    I suspect, for me, any tech that demands focused consciousness may be a downside, but many forms of tech can let you get your daydreaming walk in the forest time.

    1. Re:I can daydream listening to mp3s by east+coast · · Score: 4, Informative

      Meditation should cause you to become aware of your environment and not let the mind dwell on other issues. It's about focusing on "being here now." What you're doing is spacing out. They're not the same thing.

      --
      Dedicated Cthulhu Cultist since 4523 BC.
    2. Re:I can daydream listening to mp3s by Neil+Boekend · · Score: 1

      It depends on the music. Enya would be perfect for shutting of your mind. Dimmu Borgir causes the polar opposite in me.

      --
      Well, I might have a way, but it only works on a semi spherical planet in a vacuum.
    3. Re:I can daydream listening to mp3s by frog_strat · · Score: 1

      Moment by moment this universe arises in my awareness.

    4. Re:I can daydream listening to mp3s by BJ_Covert_Action · · Score: 1
      I'm not going to lie. A statement like:

      You can also do this kind of thing while driving. So much so that you can often forget the details of how you got somewhere.

      ....makes me hope I never encounter you on the road.

    5. Re:I can daydream listening to mp3s by east+coast · · Score: 1

      Namaste :)

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    6. Re:I can daydream listening to mp3s by ihatejobs · · Score: 1

      You'd be surprised how well the subconscious can handle a car. I know when I get extremely tired or I'm sick, I tend to zone out and let my subconscious take over and it drives remarkably well. Better than if I am consciously driving the vehicle actually. My subconscious doesn't even go over the speed limit.

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      Can anyone tell me why 99% of /. users are total assclowns?
    7. Re:I can daydream listening to mp3s by slycrel · · Score: 1

      With my first kid my wife and I took a hypno-birthing class. The teacher pointed out once that this is pretty common, and you're in a hypnotic state. Your sub-conscious takes over the mindless task of driving (almost always along a route you frequent) and your conscious mind goes elsewhere. You're still aware of everything that's going on, but your attention is on something else. Probably as close to true multi-tasking as you can get in that sense. Dunno if it's true or not, but it's interesting stuff regardless.

    8. Re:I can daydream listening to mp3s by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Great reply.

      I think meditation is the answer to TFA issues, it is even a better "downtime" that sleeping because you start incorporating the results into your life to improve it.

  13. Please by U8MyData · · Score: 1

    Oh boy! Another flavor of the month study. Who does these things, who is paying them, and what are their motivations? I think these kind of studies/reports are more responsible for the intrusion of my brains downtime than anything else as I consider the id10ts that make them. Time for some aspirin...

    1. Re:Please by nomadic · · Score: 2, Funny

      Uhhh yeah...it must be the sitting-on-the-sofa-collecting-your-thoughts-for-a-few-minutes lobby, releasing a biased report to support their industry.

    2. Re:Please by Jedi+Alec · · Score: 2, Funny

      So....that would be IKEA? :)

      I never trusted those swedish bastards! Curse them and their delicious meatballs!

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    3. Re:Please by Belial6 · · Score: 1

      You are not really trying to say that there isn't a large faction of the population that hates technology, and are actively trying to get people to use less because they have some misguided belief that it is bad are you? Have you never seen the 'Kill Your TV' bumper stickers? Have you not heard about the studies that try to point out the evils of video games? Sometimes people do things for money. Sometimes people do things for morals (whether we consider them good or bad), and sometimes people do things for money because other people will pay them to do it for morals.

      Right of the bat, you can tell that this report (or at least the summary) is bogus based on the word 'Digital' in it. There is nothing magical about 'digital' information that would make you less able to concentrate. It sounds like they are really complaining about the fact that many people are always doing something. I know that staying busy offends many people, but it has nothing to do with 'digital'.

      My guess is that they don't actually know what digital means, because I seriously doubt that they would argue that there is a difference in concentration levels between someone listening to a cassette tape vs. a CD vs. an MP3. Are they arguing that getting anolog phone calls every 5 minutes is less distracting than getting the same calls every 5 minutes over VOIP? What about the digital transmission done at the phone company. Does a phone call that originates on an analog phone, gets transmitted from one phone company office to another digitally, and then gets delivered via an analog phone count as digital or analog.

      What about sitting in a quite room and reading a paper book? Most grown up books are digital. Does that count?

    4. Re:Please by nomadic · · Score: 1

      You are not really trying to say that there isn't a large faction of the population that hates technology, and are actively trying to get people to use less because they have some misguided belief that it is bad are you?

      No, I don't think it's a "large fraction" of the population, I don't think their belief is particularly misguided, and I CERTAINLY don't believe they're sponsoring biased research.

    5. Re:Please by SleazyRidr · · Score: 3, Informative

      Time to change your sig again ;)

    6. Re:Please by badkarmadayaccount · · Score: 1

      Digital phone calls lack the distinct warmth and texture that gives you almost pure nirvana when using an analog phone.

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  14. mmm by Carebears · · Score: 1

    i haz to haff teh internets all day.

  15. More than that by bsDaemon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I read the article on the New York Times yesterday, but I've been thinking about this a lot lately in general, and I've come across some pretty interesting stuff. For instance, its pretty obvious that computers give off a lot of blue light. Apparently someone decided that blue LEDs meant high tech and so devices get fitted with them all over the place. Blue light in particular is linked to suppression of melatonin(source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11487664). Particularly low levels of melatonin have been observed in patients with various degrees of ASD, including slashdot's favourite asperger's (source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17505466).

    So, my contention is that the "rise in autism" that seems to be so prevalent these days is probably a result of children basically being deprived of proper darkness, being surrounded by light from computers, tv, video games, etc. I've started taking melatonin supplements as since I got back into IT work about two years ago and spending much more time on computers, I've been sleeping a lot less and feeling generally less sociable. My memory has gotten shot, etc. Could just be that I'm getting older, but I'm only 26... I'm not that old. When I get a break away from computers, take some time out to sleep, and get outside in the woods then I can generally shake the effects off in a day or so, but when I was a kid the world wasn't nearly as surrounded by computer technology in all its myriad of forms as it is today, where kids are basically handed a DS right out of the womb. I didn't see a gameboy until I was about 7 or 8, and it had a monochrome screen with no backlight.

    And no, I don't mean a break from work. I mean a break from computers. It's not just being at work -- when I'm at work, its light outside anyway. I mean no laptop, no fancy phone, no nothing. Go away for a few days and leave that stuff behind, because if I'm just at home on the weekend and spend a lot of time plugged up, then I don't feel any better for not having been at work.

    The way kids are today, with all their gadgets and gizmos can't possibly be any better for their brains than it is for their bodies, not playing outside nearly as much as they used to.

    Stories like this match up pretty well with my own anecdotal evidence, not that it means much, but when I find NIH studies that seem to point to much more extreme versions of what I've seen, even in myself. Like I said, the effects on an adult are likely to be temporary, but our brains had time to mature before being mushed up.

    1. Re:More than that by OffaMyLawn · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Maybe that is why my work gave me this nice laptop with all the blue LEDs on the touch bar...

      On a more serious note though, I do have to agree with you. I spent a week on the beach in OBX with the family, didn't take my laptop, had my phone with me but left it in the house we rented, just kicked back and listened to the ocean with a beer in my hand. I felt a million times better after that, so I definitely agree that it's a good idea to just get away from technology completely ever so often.

      Sometimes even small breaks can help, like taking the kids to the pool for the day, going out and flying kites, or anything else just to get out of the house and away from the noise.

    2. Re:More than that by maratumba · · Score: 1

      Blue light in particular is linked to suppression of melatonin

      So, instead of staring at blue LED's, we should go outside and watch the blue skies I guess.

    3. Re:More than that by bsDaemon · · Score: 1

      When the sky is blue, its because its day time. When its not, its night time. Know what people are supposed to do at night, sleep? Melatonin helps you sleep, but its production is inhibited by blue light, like when its day time. Artificial blue light tricks your brain into thinkings its still day time, so you don't produce sufficient quantities of melatonin at the right point in the day to enter into a natural sleep cycle. The effects of sleep deprivation are pretty rough, otherwise it wouldn't be used as an "enhanced interrogation technique"

    4. Re:More than that by smithy242 · · Score: 1

      I bought a pair of blue-blocking glasses about two years ago for this very reason. At night if I can't reasonably control light levels, these blue-spectrum blocking glasses really help. lowbluelights.com offers these.

      The greatest side-effect I have from blue light is delaying the sleep phase, where the quality sleep you receive is now early in the morning compared to the middle of the night. This makes mornings especially terrible and unproductive.

    5. Re:More than that by RaymondKurzweil · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      For instance, its pretty obvious that computers give off a lot of blue light

      citation needed.

      The typical blue indicator LEDs you seem to be bitching about might be lucky to produce 3 lm of total light output, directed a little more than a luminaire, but still a small fraction of the light output of even a 7W incandescent nightlight.

      As an expert in crackpot theories, let me just say you're doing well in that department.

      The way kids are today, with all their gadgets and gizmos can't possibly be any better for their brains than it is for their bodies, not playing outside nearly as much as they used to.

      Ok, the first part of this sentence reminded me of that Prince interview making the rounds a few weeks back.

    6. Re:More than that by bsDaemon · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I guess I just invented the whole RGB thing and the fact that blue light is mixed in with the output in CRTs and LCDs. This isn't a crackpot theory: not once did I mention how George Bush was involved.

      The problem as I see it, is the constantly being surrounded by light from various sources. Computers and other electronic devices just happen to be the most prevalent of those which encourage you to sit very close to them and stare directly at their light source (the display).

    7. Re:More than that by ElectricTurtle · · Score: 0, Troll

      You think that light = autism? Really? From the age of five to fifteen I slept with the lights on. I am not autistic, and I am considered to have one of the best memories by people who know me. I also am using a computer at damn near all times that I am not sleeping.

      I also appreciate the 'get off my lawn' aspect of 'I only had a monochrome handheld!' Sure this saved you from untold mental disorders... or not.

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    8. Re:More than that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >So, my contention is that the "rise in autism" that seems to be so prevalent these days is probably a result of children basically being deprived of proper darkness, being surrounded by light from computers, tv, video games, etc.

      How are you any different than the anti-vax crowd? Seriously, you have some kind of basic correlation, maybe, yet you're confident that a serious illness is dependent on light levels, even though there's no shortage of light bathed people without symptoms?

      Only on slashdot can anti-scientific garbage like this get modded +5 insightful.

    9. Re:More than that by RaymondKurzweil · · Score: 1

      Only on slashdot can anti-scientific garbage like this get modded +5 insightful.

      Well anti-science bullshit can get promoted just about anywhere on the Internet.

      What I find slightly amusing is that if he had blamed his problems on WiFi he would have been pretty much universally been called an idiot.

    10. Re:More than that by bsDaemon · · Score: 1

      If I had blamed my problems on WiFi, I wouldn't have been able to find research from the NIH to back me up. How am I anti-science? We sent men to the moon using slide rules; saying that I think that our current culture, influenced by a level of technology we haven't had in the past, where we are now constantly bombarded by sensory input, put off of natural sleep cycles, and generally messed with is likely to have unforseen consequences. A lot of the strange syndromes and whatnot that people are reporting today may very well be related. They may not be, but in good scientific fashion, further research is needed.

      Science is awesome. Constant needless distractions, disruptions and lack of sleep are not awesome. They are very not awesome.

    11. Re:More than that by Alanonfire · · Score: 1

      There has been a number of studies that conclude that being out in nature while learning is most beneficial and suggests that the anxiety of big city life is actually quite bad for nurturing mental growth. I don't have any links for you, I have a few of the philosophy and psychology papers at home, but I'm not there.

      Essentially they say that we don't notice the anxiety of city life until we get out of it. Some of the papers encouraged you to try reading (if you're a student) your textbooks in a park away from distractions of the city. I tried it and found that it was much easier to focus. They encourage the readers to remove items with flashing/blinking lights or lights that are constantly on from their bedrooms because the light penetrates through our eyelids while we're sleeping and distracts our brains. Kinda like how you can tell if the light is on, even when you close your eyes.

      Anyway, I saw your post and thought you might be interested in those types of studies. Sorry I can't provide you details on the titles or authors. There was a recent study in the news with a group who went into a cell-dead-zone to get away from technology to do a similar study. Maybe if you can find that article, you can find their names and see if they've done any other research on the topic, or email the researchers and ask for more information.

      I like that you pointed that out about kids too. When I was little, I was allowed to watch tv, but I spent almost all of my time outside. All the way until I moved to LA for college. But I was shocked to see that people in their teens spend so much time inside, on the computer or watching tv these days. Even in my teens I was outside skateboarding or riding my bike around and going to the river with my friends. Now kids go outside but they look like zombies on their iphones and androids. I use an iphone, but mostly for reading twitter feeds while I poop or looking up bus routes.

      For your sleep issues, you're getting older and have to remember that stuff like caffeine starts to affect you differently and that you still need exercise. At my office they encourage us to get up and walk every few hours for about 10 to 15 mins and to stretch every hour. A doctor also told me a few things that helped me with sleep trouble too (I'm a systems test engineer for flight software, so I also stare at computers all day). Wake up everyday at the same time, even if you're gonna be tired. Don't drink caffeine after 2pm ( I think this varies per person). He basically said "only use your bed for sleeping and sex, don't lay on it to watch tv or reading, or whatever." Get moderate exercise and examine my diet. I actually went as far as to get a calorie counter app on my iphone to help me watch what I eat and to keep track of my vitamin intake and so on, it has really helped me, I had no idea that even though I thought I was eating healthy, I wasn't getting my vitamins, etc. I don't rely on it, but it helped me see what was actually good and what I just perceived was good for me.

      I feel its in our nature to become anti-social. Especially people in technical fields. And it can be hard to socialize to begin with. All of my peers have had the same experience, if you go to a party and people say, "hey, what do you do?" and you reply "I'm a system test engineer for flight software for spacecrafts" they get a blank look on their face and for some reason they have to go outside or to the kitchen and the conversation just ends. Because they're expecting you to say, "oh I work at some small company doing web design" or something stupid. Because this conversation is ultimately designed to get you to ask them in return what they do so they can go off about how they feel what they do is the best thing in the world. Though I may agree, it dies before it gets there because they have no idea what I'm talking about.

      Anyway, I really just wanted to say, "yeah, I hear ya."

    12. Re:More than that by RaymondKurzweil · · Score: 1

      If I had blamed my problems on WiFi, I wouldn't have been able to find research from the NIH to back me up. How am I anti-science?

      Well I never claimed you were anti-science. But yes, I opined that what you said is fairly anti-scientific and I stand by that.

      But just so you know, citing an journal article is not science, and it is precisely the thing that the media has done for years everytime we have some fad alarmist bullshit about nutrition or health.

      Citing a journal article is "doing science" or being "scientific" just about as much as using an oscilloscope or a geiger counter to find and justify paranormal activity is.

      Most practicing research scientists do cite articles. But that is not the primary thing that makes them scientists and citing an article is not the scientific method.

      I have no reason to believe at this point that the article you cited is at all relevant to the far-reaching health claims you're making let alone its results well accepted in the field at this point and their methods unflawed.
      Oddly enough I have done research work in a field not so far removed from this one (visual sensory research), and all I'll say is that I know enough to know what I don't know but I can say with quite a bit of confidence that using this article to support your assumptions about sleep health and autism based on other assumptions about environmental light exposure takes quite a bit of hand-waving.

    13. Re:More than that by bsDaemon · · Score: 1

      Well, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on being a researcher in the field and you probably do know more than me about it. I work in infosec, not medicine or research. I'm just saying that, for me, taking melatonin supplements and trying to stay away from staring at light sources such as computers, helps me sleep, keeps me more focused and lets me actually have fun once in a while, as opposed to being an exasperated crazy person like I am when I don't take the supplements. It really wouldn't surprise me at all if prolonged exposure to unantural light sources aimed directly at the eyes would hamper proper brain development in very young children and alter their ability to properly deal with sensory input as they get older.

    14. Re:More than that by karcirate · · Score: 1

      Nice! Now those parents can sue the screen makers instead of the government.

    15. Re:More than that by blair1q · · Score: 1

      Well, first, the Autism curve started pitching up in the early 80s, and blue LEDs weren't invented until the late 90s.

      Second, Autism presents symptoms in infancy, before the typical child has been hypnotized by Xbox.

      Third, simple social ineptitude due to inexperience is not the same thing as Autism. Social retardation can be repaired fairly easily. Autism is notoriously hard to work against.

    16. Re:More than that by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Are you sure that taking placebos and staying away from microwave ovens wouldn't do the same thing for you? You have the sound of somebody who has an idea (which may be correct or incorrect) and is determined to act on it and succeed.

      FWIW, the computer I'm in front of, including monitors, has several yellowish LCDs and one blue. If your melatonin hypothesis is correct, they should cancel out, right? Heck, how do you feel when you cover blue LCDs with duct tape? If your light hypothesis is correct, that should do just as well without having to cut down on the WoW.

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    17. Re:More than that by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Third, simple social ineptitude due to inexperience is not the same thing as Autism. Social retardation can be repaired fairly easily. Autism is notoriously hard to work against.

      I don't want to equate social ineptitude with Autism or anything, but it's NOT repaired "fairly easily". If you don't lay down structures in your brain for dealing with other humans on a sane basis early in life it will fuck with you all your life. This is one reason most single parents are a big fucking fail. (Another is that there's a reason they are single. It could be limited to very poor choices in partners but people who can't choose partners well shouldn't breed either.)

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    18. Re:More than that by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Seems to me like the LEDs should shine blue in the day and red at night. In the afternoon/evening the light red shifts as it refracts through the atmosphere.

      Further it seems like your bathroom light should be warm even if your house lights are cool, so that it doesn't wake you up so badly.

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    19. Re:More than that by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      Damn, too bad I didn't know about that before I decked out my gaming PC with blue lighting all those years ago, but now I have this nice matching black/blue/white theme going on across my gaming PC, laptop and PDA...oh well, goodbye health :-P

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  16. Well... by muckracer · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    In Soviet Russia digital devices....AHAHAHAHAHA...ROFL!!

    1. Re:Well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Russian mobile device market is one of the biggest and there's more cell phones there than people. don't worry, you're totally CLEVER and EDGY though! xD

  17. Scientist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Said scientists added "OKAY THE RESEARCH IS DONE CAN WE SLEEP NOW PLEASE" .............aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

  18. Um no... not really.... by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It is not like before "digital devices" people would sit around doing nothing for "downtime".. Before pocket toys that look for our attention people had a list of tasks they had to do. Instead of wasting time sitting there playing plants-vs-zombies they read a book or talked.

    My downtime is usually under a car or elbow deep in a motorcycle doing high level brain activity compared to what any digital device causes.

    This is all bull-cockey. If anything the digital devices are making people stupid because they dont have to actually work for or retain any knowlege.. they certianly are not causing us to lose downtime, as humans by nature dont do brain downtime. Hell when we sleep we dont even have brain downtime.

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    1. Re:Um no... not really.... by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      It is not like before "digital devices" people would sit around doing nothing for "downtime"

      I'm not so sure. I know someone who isn't so big on technology and doesn't need it in his life (sometimes I admire him the simplicity that affords him).

      Apparently, he's perfectly content to just sit quietly on his sofa for periods of time. No music, no TV, not even sure he's having any "inner dialog" -- I think he literally is content to just sit.

      I've been known to sit on a rock for an hour or two, but that was usually taking in the sights around me and just actively sitting there with no more action than need be.

      I think back in the day when people had far fewer distractions, more than a few of them probably occupied some time doing what we would essentially call 'nothing' since it didn't involve an activity or another person.

      Hell when we sleep we dont even have brain downtime.

      Well, I don't think they don't mean "zero activity", they mean that it's restful and will help 'recharge' somewhat.

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    2. Re:Um no... not really.... by MozeeToby · · Score: 1

      They're not talking about the couple hours at the end of the day where people do their hobbies and relax, they're talking about the minute here, minute there kind of downtime throughout the day. They're talking about leaning back in your chair and stretching out for a few minutes, waiting to hear back on a question you asked your co-worker, or just sitting on the damn toilet (we all know people who can't help but get out their phones while they're taking a crap).

    3. Re:Um no... not really.... by turkeyfish · · Score: 1

      "as humans by nature dont do brain downtime."

      Funny you should say that, which leads to the obvious question, why is sleep a universal human behavior? According to you, humans don't sleep, but even limited observation suggests otherwise.

    4. Re:Um no... not really.... by Belial6 · · Score: 1
      Did you really not read his whole post before responding? I mean, you can disagree with him if you want, but you don't do much for your argument when you say:

      According to you, humans don't sleep, but even limited observation suggests otherwise.

      after he says:

      Hell when we sleep we dont even have brain downtime.

      It's not like he wrote pages of stuff for you to sift through to get to that part.

    5. Re:Um no... not really.... by Belial6 · · Score: 1

      Most books are digital devices. It just uses a base 28 or something close to it. While in day to day life, I wouldn't go out of my way to point this out to people, in this case, we are talking about the affects of digital devices, and my suspicion is that the people who conducted this 'study' don't really understand what they are saying.

    6. Re:Um no... not really.... by nephilimsd · · Score: 1

      There was an article a few months back about how every time a new technology comes out, people cry, "Oh noes! This will surely ruin our civilization due to [insert one or more of the following: Information overload; lack of memory retention; decreased social and family values; increased violence; etc.]. This has been going on since the written word in Greece, when Socrates said that writing everything down would stop people from trying to remember things and therefore be the end of civilization. We can all see how badly that turned out.

    7. Re:Um no... not really.... by mmaniaci · · Score: 1

      If anything the digital devices are making people stupid because they dont have to actually work for or retain any knowlege (sic)

      Remembering things does not mean you are smart, or even non-stupid. Memorization does not imply adept thinking skills and, IMO (no science done here), I think that the way we're moving will make us much smarter in general, just in a different way than we're used to. Perhaps offloading some forms of memory to computers is allowing us to concentrate on actual thinking. Maybe our education will eventually evolve and our kids wouldn't have to waste 14 years of their life (K-12) memorizing and regurgitating government-regulated information that can just be referenced, and originally was memorized from, a book or online source. I for one didn't learn how to learn from school, I learned how to memorize exactly what I needed to know to get a B or better on the next test.

      I would go so far and say that we don't even have to teach anything in the "memorize-regurgitate" fashion for our youth to grow into adequate thinking machines. Teaching kids how to learn what they need to know on their own seems a lot more lucrative and efficient to me, but I'm also the kind of guy that can teach himself whatever he wants to know (read as: I know how to google). Unfortunately, a thinking majority might not bode well for the elite class that require a population of plebs to continue their way of life, and we all know who makes the rules around here...

    8. Re:Um no... not really.... by avandesande · · Score: 1

      Too true! There has been many time working on my bike that i have wished that I had an 'undo' button. Real world tasks require much more planning and sequencing than in the digital world.

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  19. Eh by Jethro · · Score: 4, Informative

    I heard an interview with the guy who wrote that book on NPR yesterday. Practically every sentence he spoke contained a "Maybe" or a "We don't know for sure" or an "It's possible that..."

    His entire interview was preceded by him saying this is all theories and may not be correct at all and that there's actually no scientific proof of any of this.

    So, grain of salt.

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    1. Re:Eh by Roger_Wilco · · Score: 1

      You mean, he was a credible scientist? Scientists generally do not say things without caveats, and even if they omit them, you should assume the caveats remain. People with certainty are usually shysters.

    2. Re:Eh by Jethro · · Score: 1

      No, he was a guy who talked to a few scientists and wrote a book about it. I'm not saying he wasn't doing a good job, I'm saying the headline might be a biiit alarmist.

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    3. Re:Eh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Honestly, I would take that as a sign that the guy is a scientist rather than a journalist. Real scientists (almost) never talk in terms of absolutes; there is (almost) always uncertainty and room for refinements and improvements to the theory. Journalists and marketers on the other hand tend to talk using all manner of hyperbole and absolutes.
      The fact is that statistical anomalies and outliers do exist, and just because something is true for the majority of the population does not make it true for everyone. Failure to acknowledge that fact (especially when giving lifestyle or medical advice)has the potential to get you sued into oblivion and/or destroy your career.
      Honestly, the fact that he's using such qualifying statements so directly gives me more confidence that the guy actually knows what he's talking about.

    4. Re:Eh by Jethro · · Score: 1

      I'm not saying not to pay attention to the guy, I'm saying not to pay that much attention to the alarmist nature of the headline.

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    5. Re:Eh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is because, as he stated several times, a lot of these studies are still new, not yet peer reviewed, and/or are ongoing, but that indirect evidence is *pointing* to these conclusions already. I honestly think they are on to something; I've been noticing this in myself even before I heard this on NPR yesterday. .Syn.

  20. Time spent in the bathroom? by iknowcss · · Score: 4, Funny

    I think a study should be done that correlates smartphone ownership with time spent per bathroom break. I think you all know why.

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    1. Re:Time spent in the bathroom? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    2. Re:Time spent in the bathroom? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh the irony of posting this on my cell phone in an office building stall while my boss thinks I am at my cube doing a capacity analysis.

    3. Re:Time spent in the bathroom? by 2obvious4u · · Score: 1

      I think you all know why.

      Angry Birds?

      Actually I've started pocketing my DS at work to get in a little DQ9 during my bathroom breaks.

    4. Re:Time spent in the bathroom? by blair1q · · Score: 1

      There's a meme for that.

      Note: most of those are already on T-shirts.

  21. WTF does it have to do with digital? by Sloppy · · Score: 1

    Any device -- no, any activity -- that continuously takes up your attention is going to have the exact same effect. It's not like the brain subconsciously detects, "Hey, these inputs have discrete steps which I'm able to perceive thanks to my gold-plated Monster cables," and then the person goes nuts.

    Quit saying "digital device" when you mean "any thing", quit saying iPhone when you mean any mobile computer, quit saying "digital music" when you mean any music that is downloaded instead of distributed on removable media, etc. You think you're being cutting edge and hip, but really, almost everyone can see your bullshit.

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    1. Re:WTF does it have to do with digital? by O('_')O_Bush · · Score: 1

      Yea, this could be said of people moving from rural to urban areas, or from hands-on/manual labor work to desk jobs/paperwork.

      Plowing fields by hand or riveting buildings could be seen as brain downtime, and have largely been lost activities since the trend in technology towards requiring us to use constant thinking and processing in normal activities.

      --
      while(1) attack(People.Sandy);
  22. Encrypt it by JohannesJ · · Score: 1

    I think in Binary and exclusive or each letter I'm reading with 82 Hexadecimal, so I fool my brain into thinking it's just noise and I'm asleep.As a result however,, I cant remember much ,but Now I can read the same thing 50 times as if it's the first , and this saves me money on E books too.

  23. sound bites by digitalhermit · · Score: 1

    Gadgets force us to communicate in sound bites. We dig the new shiny. Our attentions no longer span, but spin. Subtle phrasing replaced by clever phrasing replaced by catch phrases. "Think" is a four-letter word. Four letter words are old school. Grammar mocked as elitist. Push2Talk is DoubleSpeak. Allusions wander, lost. News at 11.

  24. related article about rafting trip by peter303 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Several high-power professor types go "off the grid" on a backcountry rafting rafting trip. Initially there was some anxiety about being incommunicato, but it fades quickly.

    I notice the same. I think about work the first day of a backcountry trip or vacation. But then stop thinking about work by the second day.

    1. Re:related article about rafting trip by Chowderbags · · Score: 1

      Several high-power professor types go "off the grid" on a backcountry rafting rafting trip.

      I remember that movie!

  25. I agree! by wfstanle · · Score: 1

    When I have a really vexing programming problem, I often think of a real creative way to solve it in the moments in bed waiting to fall asleep. The ideas do not occur while I am asleep but when I am fully awake waiting to fall asleep. I am quite sure that the time when nothing is happening is very important to the creative process. Other people might be different but I find this is true for me.

    1. Re:I agree! by Reziac · · Score: 1

      It could be worse. I've written most of my best fiction while shovelling the daily dog shit out of the kennel. A benefit of having an everyday mindless activity that lets my brain wander off to wherever it pleases, with no restraints.

      --
      ~REZ~ #43301. Who'd fake being me anyway?
    2. Re:I agree! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have the same experience while having a bowel movement. 5 minutes in the bathroom can be worth an hour in front of my desk.

  26. Just do some meditation then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    20 minutes a day, you just sit there and quiet your mind, trying to visualize a mundane object or repeating a meaningless mantra. Works wonder, and you might learn some important stuff about yourself while at it :)

  27. wetware downtime by viralMeme · · Score: 1

    Didn't that used to be called sleep ..

    1. Re:wetware downtime by blair1q · · Score: 1

      Yes. Now it's called commuting.

  28. This is why TV is our first, best friend. by Picass0 · · Score: 1

    Television gives us so much and asks so little in return. Why must you be so tempted by hours of web surfing?

    Just turn off you brain and give TV your whole day. There's probably a Deadliest Catch marathon you could be watching.

    1. Re:This is why TV is our first, best friend. by blair1q · · Score: 1

      I have a computer set up in front of the TV.

      I am often watching TV and online at the same time, and sometimes dealing with incoming data on my phone as well.

      When I really want to zone out I lie back and fire up a few episodes of How It's Made.

      BTW, I got tired of Deadliest Catch after about half a marathon. But I could watch Dirty Jobs 24/7/365 and not even ask for a raise.

  29. screw constant connectivity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In recent years I've half wondered if I'd become somewhat of a neoluddite. I pass on facebook, twitter or any social networking -- not that I doubt that those are to some extent useful tools that allow families & friends to keep in touch, but from my vantage point the overwhelming majority of people allow these tools to become far too invasive in their lives. Hell, in May I test drove the HTC Incredible (bought it outright), and after ~4 weeks of playing with it I concluded that while it came in handy _at times_ , I really didn't need it. This, in addition to surfing the web with such a small screen being a bit frustrating at times, lead me back to my trusty nokia 3589i.

    If I have down time I get the hell outside. yesterday I walked home and decided to take the long way, despite the lingering rain showers after one wicked thunderstorm. Got soaked in those 25 minutes, but it was better than any time spent connected to the net (dare I say, even better than lurking in these here parts ;-) I find that I'm happier than I've ever been.

    Now get off my lawn!

  30. Only if you let them by MpVpRb · · Score: 1

    I frequently disconnect, unplug and become unreachable for some time each day.

  31. This explains my behavior by GarryFre · · Score: 1

    I like to take breaks after learning a lot of new stuff, otherwise it starts to swim together and get jumbled and I thought this was my FAULT. Now they are saying it's normal. I wonder how many normal folks end up misdiagnosed with things because mankind STILL DOESN'T KNOW HOW THE MIND WORKS - Or doesn't work. :D

    --
    www.Migrainesoft.com - Computer giving you a headache? We can fix that!
  32. Source code by mangu · · Score: 5, Insightful


    #include <time.h>
    #include <stdlib.h>
    #include <stdio.h>

    #define kase(tipo,stmt) case(tipo):{stmt;break;}

    char *a[10] = {
    "in particular",
    "on the other hand",
    "however",
    "similarly",
    "in this regard",
    "as a resultant implication",
    "based on integral subsystem considerations",
    "for example",
    "thus",
    "in respect to specific goals"},

    *b[10] = {
    "a large portion of the interface coordinated communication",
    "a constant flow of effective information",
    "the characterization of specific criteria",
    "initiation of critical subsystem development",
    "the fully integrated test program",
    "the product configuration baseline",
    "any associated supporting element",
    "the incorporation of additional mission constraints",
    "the independent functional principle",
    "a primary interrelationship between system and/or subsystem technologies"},

    *c[10] = {
    "must utilize and be functionally interwoven with",
    "maximizes the probability of project success and minimizes the cost and time required for",
    "adds explicit performance limits to",
    "necessitates that urgent consideration be applied to",
    "requires considerable systems analysis and trade off studies to arrive at",
    "is further compounded when taking into account",
    "presents extremely interesting challenges to",
    "recognizes the importance of other systems and the necessity for",
    "effects a significant implementation of",
    "adds overriding performance constraints to"},

    *d[10] = {
    "the sophisticated hardware",
    "the anticipated next generation equipment",
    "the subsystem compatibility testing",
    "the structural design based on system engineering concepts",
    "the preliminary qualification limits",
    "the evolution of specification over a given time period",
    "the philosophy of commonality and standardization",
    "the top-down development method",
    "any discrete configuration mode",
    "the total system rationale"}; /* orders: abcd, dacb, bacd, adcb */

    main()
    {
    int n, order, w, x, y, z;

    srand(time(NULL));
    for (n = 0; n < 1000; n++)
    {
    if (!(n % 10)) printf("\n");
    w = rand() % 10;
    x = rand() % 10;
    y = rand() % 10;
    z = rand() % 10;
    order = rand() % 4;
    switch (order)
    {
    case 0:
    printf(" %c%s, %s %s %s.", a[w][0] & 0xDF, a[w] + 1, b[x], c[y], d[z]);
    break;
    case 1:
    printf(" %c%s, %s, %s %s.", d[w][0] & 0xDF, d[w] + 1, a[x], c[y], b[z]);
    break;
    case 2:
    printf(" %c%s, %s, %s %s.", b[w][0] & 0xDF, b[w] + 1, a[x], c[y], d[z]);

    1. Re:Source code by tom17 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      similarly the fully integrated test program recognizes the importance of other systems and the necessity for the top-down development method

    2. Re:Source code by smellotron · · Score: 1

      #define kase(tipo,stmt) case(tipo):{stmt;break;}

      This macro isn't referenced.

      char *a[10] = ...

      Not sure what version of C you're using, but if you have access to const you should use it: const char *const a[10] = ... will indicate that the strings are truly constant and can be put in a read-only location. I don't have a compiler on hand right now, so I can't promise the syntax there 100%.

    3. Re:Source code by tom17 · · Score: 1

      Wow, if your code can get me an instant +2 interesting on /. , just imagine what it could do with my bosses!!

  33. Or Gentoo... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Gentoo gives you lots of opportunity to "think".

    http://www.userlinux.net/uploads/media/images/compiling.png

  34. Welcome to the new boob tube! by CityZen · · Score: 1

    The boob tube is dead! Long live the boob tube!

    (Hmm, now that CRT's are obsolete, what will the boob tube of the future be called?)

    1. Re:Welcome to the new boob tube! by MessedRocker · · Score: 1

      The Boob Panel. Also a good name for a pornographic website.

    2. Re:Welcome to the new boob tube! by SpeedyGonz · · Score: 1

      Boob pad...

      Since MessedRocker beat me to "boob panel"...

      Or is that more appropriate to a mobile pr0n device?

  35. Protection against this by MessedRocker · · Score: 1

    Incidentally, I have a sort of instinctual protection against this kind of thing to make sure I get the downtime I need. After enough computer use my brain says ENOUGH! and I just stop for a few minutes. Maybe it's a sort of attention deficit disorder, but I say it's my brain knowing when enough input is enough input.

  36. Does this mean I hafta stop emailing while asleep? by theNAM666 · · Score: 1

    And turn the iStereo off of NPR? No more sleepDriving? Worst of all, I can't continue to have the FireHose delivered in ASCII code electrical pulses to my aural cortex?

    Suddenly, the world goes so very, very quiet.

  37. Brain "downtme" is good? by ibsteve2u · · Score: 1

    Then what is the point of that Isaac Watts quote "For Satan finds some mischief still For idle hands to do."?

    Me, I half-suspect "they" finance this pre-determinate research 'cuz ya'll are using digital devices on the 'net learning "stuff" in an uncontrolled manner and/or entertaining yourselves cheaply instead of believing - and *buying - more of their "stuff"...

    (*Double entendre...I so proud.)

    --
    Orwell: "In a Time of Universal Deceit, telling the Truth is a Revolutionary Act"
  38. I can and do. by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 1

    Yay for college. Roughly 5-6 hours of sleep at night, 1-2 hours in the early afternoon (just when the morning's caffeine wears off).

    Of course, Slashdot is currently eating up my increased productivity, so rather than dig up the study that demonstrates the positive effects of a mid-day nap, I'm going to start my physics homework :(

    --
    Don't thank God, thank a doctor!
  39. techmindonline by techmindonline · · Score: 1

    If we don't have ideas, aren't we becoming nothing more then sophisticated animals? - http://bit.ly/9sUuWE

  40. So by ChiRaven · · Score: 1

    Read a book. A REAL one.

  41. Yeah... by Moskit · · Score: 1

    ...we, 5-digiters, are like that.