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Pink Floyd Give In To Digital Downloads
An anonymous reader writes "Tripped out old rockers Pink Floyd have inked a deal with EMI to allow single tracks by the band to be peddled as digital downloads. The remains of the band was in court less than a year ago, arguing that cutting up their albums and selling individual tracks undermined the 'artistic integrity' of their work. Now, though they've given in to the Man, and the likes of Money, Shine on you Crazy Diamond and Comfortably Numb will soon no doubt be available as 99p downloads on iTunes. Have a cigar."
They are allowed to roll with the times.
Money, get back. I'm all right Jack keep your hands off of my stack.
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Netcraft confirms it - album rock and concept albums are officially dead. :(
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Most music nowadays is bite size but most of Floyd's stuff you really had to listen to the entire Album to appreciate it. But it's a new world, I suppose, and if people want to listen to just one song from the Wall randomly mixed in with Britney Spears and Lady Gaga then power to the people.
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They're not greedy - they just need to pay for their kids' college educations.
If you consider holding off and resisting for years to be greedy cowards, aren't all other musicians alive today even greedier and more cowardly? In other words, doesn't that make Pink Floyd members the least greedy and least cowardly, at least for musicians?
It doesn't hurt to be nice.
How can ye have artistic integrity if ye won't allow downloads?
How can ye have downloads if ye don't have artistic integrity?
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It's always strange for me to listen to Pink Floyd songs out of context from the rest of the album. It probably stems from listening to those albums start to finish in my youth, and many of the songs blending in to one an other. For example, at the end of Dark Side of the Moon, "Brain Damage" flows directly in to "Eclipse," and separating those two tracks should be illegal.
Back when the first case came up I suspected it was a move to get EMI to sign a new contract for digital sales..
In the last case EMI was claiming the old contract only covered album sales and was paying Pink Floyd a lower rate for digital sales.
Looks like the Old Pink pulled it off..
Link to my comment on the first EMI case
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...make great complete albums.
(to be fair, pink floyd usually does. or at least did before I was born.)
Listening to an artist and a record company bicker over money by using "artistic integrity" is like listening to two hipsters argue by calling each other "hipster."
If your albums are such unsulliable masterpieces that should never be altered by the mere mortals that exist outside of a studio, then why release singles in the first place (granted, Pink Floyd doesn't often cut singles, but they have)? Why let other bands cover individual songs from your albums? Why slap together a greatest hits or box set package?
I really wish some artists would climb down off their high horses. At some point down the line, you made a conscious decision that playing in front of 30 people in a shithole bar in your hometown wasn't for you. Sadly, some of the bleacher seat dwellers from those bar days decided that choice makes you worthy of the moniker "sellout." You know what? Screw those selfish people. They're still sitting at the end of that bar, and they're not you. But with the ability to reach a mass audience comes a certain sacrifice. Well, not so much sacrifice as trade. You trade the ability to control every sniggling little detail of how the audience should perceive (and, to some extent, enjoy) your work in exchange for a heck of a lot more people getting to enjoy your work. Oh, and you get paid a bit better. Your audience now includes folks that just want the one little song they know & care about, and it'd be nice if you the artist would accept that not everyone thinks every last aural dripping of yours is solid gold.
Pink Floyd. Radiohead. Kid Rock. There's plenty of artists that just need to suck it up and accept that the world has changed. Consumers have picked up the tiniest inkling of purchasing power over the music industry, and we're going to use it. Call it packback for a lifetime of 20 bucks for an album with three worthy tracks.
There are some people that if they don't know, you can't tell 'em.
Been on Piratebay for Years. Glad to see that Pink will get some cash now for their efforts. (Not that they need any more.)
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when they start getting bigger royalty checks (assuming they get something from EMI) due to increased downloads of single tracks and not whole albums.
They are completely right that it does undermine the integrity of their albums, but they really lost that fight as soon as radio stations were playing individual tracks.
"It is our blasphemy which has made us great, and will sustain us, and which the gods secretly admire in us." - Zelazny
Oh... you mean LEGAL digital downloads... yeah well... I've got CDs from the used CD store.
Everyone already has their tracks courtesy of this torrent or that, or they're like me and ripped all their CDs long ago. No one in their right mind is going to pay for Apple DRM this late in the game. See "The Beatles".
What is this, a contest to see who's worse? They didn't have to change their stance; the court case was over. IMO they lost integrity by doing so.
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How will they deal with songs that run together? Pink Floyd does this a lot. For example, from The Wall, "The Thin Ice", "Another Brick in the Wall (Part 1)", "The Happiest Days of Our Lives", and "Another Brick in the Wall (Part 2)" should really all be listened to together. I can't imagine anyone actually paying to own just "The Happiest Days of Our Lives", clocking in at just 1:46. Another solid example, from the same album, would be "Empty Spaces" and "Young Lust".
While on the subject, it has long been a pet peeve of mine that music players don't recognize such songs exist and allow you to group them together, so when a random playlist is created, these songs still run together like they're supposed to.
tooooooo the machine.
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that means I get to select tunes from all kinds of albums, from all kinds of artists ... and I play them in any order that I feel like. I sometimes play a SINGLE SONG from an album. I wouldn't imagine for one minute that any of the artists involved thought I was not treating their artistic output with appropriate respect.
Just out of curiosity , I searched on itunes. Lo, Dark Side of the Moon was there.
http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/dark-side-of-the-moon/id14336410
If libertarians are so opposed to effective government, why don't they all move to Somalia?
Because they're libertarians, and not anarchists, jihadists, pirates, or warlords?
No, seriously. What the fuck are the poli-sci profs teaching you kids these days?
Most music nowadays is bite size but most of Floyd's stuff you really had to listen to the entire Album to appreciate it.
I agree that albums can yield a greater experience but how is buying a single different than listening to a single on the radio?
Also can't a single be a "preview" of some kind, inspiring the listener to *eventually* buy the album?
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I wonder how many songs they would have to sell to get enough royalties to pay for Nick Mason's Enzo.
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Since some of their songs were half an album (yes showing my age) that could make for one long and dare I say economical download.
...with artistic integrity, especially when you listen to some of their older albums (Meddle, DSOTM, Animals, etc.) where the songs tend to "flow" and work together in unison.
That being said, they shouldn't completely condemn the digital download era we live in. Besides, if I were a member of the band, I would be more appalled at the shitty hardware kids use today to TRY and listen to good music than the music itself. Sorry, I don't care how "bad-ass" those earbuds are, an iPod is far from a quality listening experience.
I want to see some Rock Band 3 Pink Floyd DLC! I still have the 9 CD box set for Pink Floyd. I would love to have some tracks in Rock Band.
Pink Floyd's The Dark Side of the Moon holds the record for most weeks on Billboard's list (772 weeks). Now get off my lawn.
What one fool can do, another can. (Ancient Simian Proverb)
Any number of ways. Off the top of my head:
Is a belieber a fanatical Bieber fan?
Even with concept albums, the songs need to be good enough to stand on their own. That's one reason why I'm not bothered by individual tracks being released from the legendary Floyd albums.
Yes, with all songs taken together, the albums "Dark Side of the Moon", "Wish You Were Here", and "Animals" are insanely good and provide an interesting flow. But all of the songs on those albums are just this side of genius even when taken one-by-one.
On the other hand, if you listen to "The Wall"... a good 30% of those songs suck - they can't stand on their own outside the album structure. Same with the earlier Floyd releases like "Ummagumma" (Does anyone who isn't stoned - or a drummer - actually like "Several Species of Small Furry Animals"?) and "Meddle" (I love "Echos", but "Seamus" - which I think was just on the US release - is just weird for the album). And, God knows, back in the Barrett days, they were trying to make singles. And a lot of the other songs on those albums downright sucked.
Bottom line, if an "artist" is fighting to keep his "concept" together, you know he or she is saying that half the album sucks and is fighting for the addition $5 or so selling the entire album and not just the two or three good tracks therefrom gives.
That is all.
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I didn't pay attention to 45's back in the day but did Pink Floyd release any of their songs as singles on 45's? The 45 rpm seems to be the analog equivalent to the modern single digital download.
On the other hand digital downloads do take things a step farther since very few songs on albums were released as 45 singles. However I have seen stuff on iTunes that were available only as part of an album but it was not quite like the LP/45 situation. IIRC only a few song were available only via the album download.
Wouldn't getting together for the rock aid concern a few years back have already cost them their integrity, since they said they'd never do that? Or releasing several albums after Roger Waters left the band and vehemently disagreed that the remaining member(s) could/should continue under the old name? Or did they lose their integrity when they dumped Syd and let Roger take over?
It doesn't hurt to be nice.
Not a Floyd album, but certainly Roger's best (and, other than that opera) probably the last solo album he'll ever make. One would wonder how you cut up something like Amused To Death, which really has very little in the way of useful song breaks.
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Probably that Libertarianism would lead to as unmanageable and unproductive society as an anarchist society.
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When they dumped Syd. Yeah, that's when it happened.
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I fail to see how the it is a problem for the members of PF to be paid more per song than the miserable amount the record labels were prepared to give them. By suing & winning in court, they forced the record label to have to pay more for the privilege of selling by the song. It's scandalous that record labels are paying artists much less for digital downloads than they are for the same songs delivered on a physical medium. More power to them IMO.
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And of course, even if they were anarchist, it's not like the only difference about Somalia and say the US is the lack of government. It sucked when it had a government, and most people wouldn't prefer to live in Somalia's neighbors that also have governments.
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Where can I buy just the first song off Jethro Tull's "Thick as a Brick" album?
If it doesn't include Roger Waters or Syd Barrett, it's not really Pink Floyd, is it? Yeah, Gilmore and Mason must have run out of money.
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Good for them. They get to stay relevant.
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Pink Floyd didn't release many singles, the bulk of their albums just weren't very radio friendly. For all the other artists you name you're right, but not Floyd. I can't think of any problems with putting all the tracks from Metallica, Madonna or The Beatles into my playlist and hitting shuffle, they generally do songs that stand on their own. Do that with Floyd and you'll get a mess. Tracks tend to flow into each other, some tracks are nothing more than sounds or voices bridging two songs....they were just never intended to be played that way, and hearing them that way is the very definition of damaging the artistic integrity of the album.
Think of it this way: Pizza is delicious, but eating a handful of flour, a scoop of tomato sauce, a bit of cheese and a spoonfull of oil seperately and in random order is disgusting. Pink Floyd used songs as ingredients to build albums, they rarely aimed for a song that stood by itself (although when they did, it was usually great: Comfortably Numb springs to mind).
Some bring out the best in others, some the worst. Some bring out far more.
Libertarianism: Facing need for some government, but but no more than that.
Not the job factory/overseer that the US government has become.
I don't think the libertarian policy has enough human factor to be implemented. Such a system design will inevitably eject the long-term thinkers [Who think in terms of themselves as members of a millenially-aged species and the responsibility inherent.] from the herd-minded short-term thinkers [Who care only about their own moment in time.] who don't care as long as they have food and shelter. What is the answer to that obstacle?
PF is actually one of the least "tripped out" bands of that era. Gilmore, Waters, the late Wright, and Mason are/were all fairly clean livers. I think they actually learned something early from Sid's death and avoided the drug culture that trapped many others. It's probably one reason why their music was so clear, creative, often sublime.
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Whoops, that was in reply to 'If libertarians are so opposed to effective government, why don't they all move to Somalia?' as well. [Backing up the ACs comment, not arguing with it.]
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We call it Riding the Gravy Train...
(Oh by the way, which one's Pink?)
"Flyin' in just a sweet place,
Never been known to fail..."
Roger Waters has owned the rights to "The Wall" since 1987, not Pink Floyd.
'number of ways' should have been 'colour you like' to stay on theme.
I'm not a coward by any name.
That Libertarians are like Jehova's Witnesses---they're so desperate to get a word in, they'll even reply to a sig!
Anyhow, he's committed and you say good riddance and continue on without him.
AFAIK, cover versions aren't illegal, and you don't need the creators accept to record one.
Can anyone recommend another band that has written music of similar quality, complexity and stamina ? The closest I get are a few extremely well done 1 hour long trance remixes.
I'm not a coward by any name.
Syd died in 2006, far too late for them to learn anything from his death. They were scared into avoiding drugs by Syd's descent into psychosis triggered by his heavy LSD use, not by his death. Gilmore was Syd's replacement.
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
That is ... too bad I stopped caring about bands who pulled this crap a long time ago.
Don't want to sell me what I want? Fine, I'll keep my money for people who sell me what I want to buy.
Buying their tracks now just lets them get by with it and sends the wrong message to other people like them. The best thing to do is to simply not purchase it anyway, rip your old CDs instead or records if you got'em, but don't give them any more of your money.
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Ya know, Pink Floyd used to be one of my favorite bands. As a teenager I was introduced to Darkside of the Moon and completely blown away *in the 1990's* I used to have most of their albums but through the years after moving a lot and transitioning to what is pretty much an entirely digital collection, I haven't listened to much if any Pink Floyd. Sure an occasional song on the radio, but that's about it.
I'm glad they finally realized that their fans were evaporating due to their own silly decisions...
If there was a law to prevent radio stations from playing the songs, maybe they would have.
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Do you even lift?
These aren't the 'roids you're looking for.
The Wall: The Movie was an afterthought of the album.
Bands cannot control who does cover versions so long as the musicians doing the cover pay the fees. There is no copyright veto against it.
Had to read that last sentence through a number of times until I realized what they were going for was "Now, though, they've given in to the Man and the likes of Money, Shine on You Crazy Diamond, and Comfortably Numb will soon no doubt be available as 99p downloads on iTunes."
Not "Now, though they've given in to the Man and the likes of Money, Shine on You Crazy Diamond, and Comfortably Numb will soon no doubt be available as 99p downloads on iTunes, this sentence is missing it's concluding thought."
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What "artistic integrity?" It was good enough to chop up their albums for radio play but not for download? How hypocritical is that?
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Listening to Pink Floyd singles is the exact wrong way to do it, literally. The proper way to listen to certain Pink Floyd albums is in their entirety except for one track. For example, when I listen to Dark Side of the Moon, I always skip "Money" if I'm paying attention. That song totally kills the vibe—not the fault of Waters et al. so much as having had to hear that song so many times in the company of assholes. Perhaps they could sell a deluxe edition of that album, in two volumes available for separate purchase: Volume I, Tracks 1–4, 6–9 and Volume II, Frat-Party Mixtape (a combination of "Money" and other bonus tracks).
I already own every one of their albums, several in multiple physical formats, as well as a good bit of their various individual projects.
Shouldn't everyone have to spend gobs of cash and years (decades) of collecting to enjoy some Floyd?
(I'm tired of having to respond to people who fail the sarcasm detection test... THAT WAS SARCASM)
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i think i saw that video. i don't care to see it again.
Meddle? The track Echoes is orgasmic to listen to. IMHO, it is one of the best tracks ever recorded.
If you haven't already, find a copy of Live at Pompeii. My copy is my wife's - her family owned a mom-and-pop video store and she kept the copy when it folded.
Here, check this out:
Part 1
Part 2
As creepy/beautiful as this song is, playing it to an abandoned amphitheater on the ruins of Pompeii just multiplies the awesome. There is some studio footage of the original scoring of Us and Them too. It's fantastic to watch.
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rediculous.
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I mean if you don't listen to Pink Floyd albums as ALBUMS, you're doing it wrong.
Seeings as where TB is only two tracks, I don't think that will be a problem. And it's only two tracks because of the format of the time.
that you don't know much about Pink Floyd. They could go on tour with insane ticket prices and still sell out every venue, no problem, but they don't. Much of their music is actually about the revulsion of that motivation in the industry ("Have a Cigar" is exactly about this). Also, Pink Floyd owns their music. This was to pave way for a 5 year distribution contract, as the previous one (from '99 I believe) expired.
Floyd are whores, Gilmour is a whore - Waters is out whoring his whore ass doing the Wall again and again, which he retained the rights to in his lawsuit over the Floyd name.
Do you guys KNOW how many greatest hit records there are of Floyd that ALREADY break their shit up?
http://www.amazon.com/Echoes-Best-Pink-Floyd/dp/B00005QDW5
There's one for you. There are PLENTY of others.
And only Dark Side and Animals and the Wall can be considered concept albums. EVERYTHING pre-DSOM (and that is a LOT) going back to Saucerful of Secrets are just a collection of individual songs ANYHOW.
Really - nothing to see here. Just a bunch of grey old sods selling out what they already sold out for more pension money. And maybe a new 458 Italia for Mason. this one in yellow, perhaps....
Of course I didn't RTFA.
I don't begrudge popular artists their royalties but what's sad is how much they get compared to what fans pay.
but stop thinking that back in your day,all the music was great, and now all the music sucks.
Even in your day(which would probably qualify in my day as well) most albums and singles where crap. A few exception. Just like today. There was nothing unique about 1979. And yeah, I remember when the Wall came out, and it was awesome.
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I'm sure, everyone that is a Floyd fan already owns the CD's and have ripped them already to the digital format (free of drm!) already.
I sort of find it funny some old artists resist the digital downloads, because if they take too long, peeps are going to get them anyways, and not need to buy them if they ever give the okay.
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Purchased the MP3s from a popular site. Converted to raw audio ("lame --decode -t [files]"). "cat eclipse.raw >> brain_damage.raw". Convert back to MP3.
You reading this, AC/DC?
When they were getting started, the choice was chop up for radio or don't get signed at all -- it's only now that they're famous that they have the power to do what they always wanted to without being trampled.
(And a theoretical afterthought -- would you make every decision today the same way you made it 40 years ago?)
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PF has never refused to do iTunes.
What they have historically done is refused to do *SINGLES*, including single-track downloads on iTunes.
When these albums were recorded, they wanted you to listen to the whole thing, not just a piece.
And man, you should. Pink Floyd just doesn't make music that's meant to be listened to in 3.5 minute increments.
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Pink Floyd's works are now over 40 years old. Why does anyone have still any rights to it, why are the rights not expired by now? The fans paid the artistic work million times by now, the band is more then enough compensated. Why is the music not in public domain and can be performed by anyone and sold by everyone.
Fuck Pink Floyd and fuck the EMI. How does we get there that we arguing about almost half a century old works? In the era of digital age where technology is going faster then ever, works can be distributed with light speed across the world with no cost and we have the most richest culture ever.
While the top 1% of artists are sitting on their past works, the bottom 99% are needing a real job to get some food on their table.
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...if the Floyd decided to release their albums... As ONE track? Ahahahaha!
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Man, I was THERE! It was awesome.
Yep. If it hadn't been for the fact that albums had two sides, then both Tubular Bells and Thick as a Brick would have been one song. And Pink Floyd would probably have opted for a different track layout on Wish You Were Here, probably putting all the Shine On's together.
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They were offered $100 million *each* to go back to touring, but turned it down, but said they would still do charity gigs.
They really don't need money - their monthly earnings from current album sales alone keeps them more than comfortable.
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I feel fantastic, and I'm still alive.
(there's a lady that's sure that) all that glitters (is gold), you mean?
Yep, you can buy Stairway individually.
Led Zeppelin's catalogue did indeed already end up available as single tracks, at least in conjunction with the November 2007 release of the Mothership greatest hits compilation.
Checking Amazon MP3, Achilles Last Stand, In My Time Of Dying and Carouselambra are the only album-only tracks from the various albums they appear on, and I think that's the case on iTunes as well.
When the Beatles stuff hit iTunes, I think that was all available as single tracks.
I listen to both RIAA and non-RIAA stuff if I like the music, tangential business/politics nonwithstanding.
Maybe so; I've long since seen albums as a collection of songs, even many of those known as concept albums. (granted, things like Sgt. Pepper are at least a collection of really good songs.)
Granted, I'm a youngster.
However, there can be a different effect from listening to the whole album in order, even of many of the songs can stand alone.
I never really got Dark Side Of The Moon [even listening to it in sequence], and I just have The Wall mixed in on shuffle. Hmm, listening idea...
I listen to both RIAA and non-RIAA stuff if I like the music, tangential business/politics nonwithstanding.
Saw this in some articles pointing out that the Beatles hadn't been the only big iTunes holdout.
Def Leppard was one of the ones admitting it was about bad contract terms or other business-side issues.
I listen to both RIAA and non-RIAA stuff if I like the music, tangential business/politics nonwithstanding.
"mechanical license" is the name for the concept mentioned by some sibling posts: once the song's been released, you can get rights to cover the song by just paying the rate set by law once you notify the song publisher.
(9.1c plus 1.7c for each minute or partial minute above 5 when selling recordings, AFAIK)
This is in the hands of the publisher (or ASCAP,BMI or some group like them); Pink Floyd may have ceded some rights over the songwriting itself to them.
You can agree to other terms with the rightsholders, of course.
The compulsory license is a useful limit on copyright-law monopoly abuse, as well as Campbell vs. Acuff Rose [that parody case also clearly adds free-speech issues into the mix.]
I listen to both RIAA and non-RIAA stuff if I like the music, tangential business/politics nonwithstanding.
dark side of the moon, indeed
I feel fantastic, and I'm still alive.
Led Zeppelin also had a dismissive attitude to singles, yet still put out a few. [Perhaps compromising with _their_ label?] (Some Zeppelin songs were short enough to fit on a 45; they refused to shorten the longer songs)
I listen to both RIAA and non-RIAA stuff if I like the music, tangential business/politics nonwithstanding.
15 years, that's incredible. No one else comes close!
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Yes Apple does add info about the buyer in its tags.
True enough, but that is in no way DRM because it does not affect at all how you can use the file.
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How about some Rock Band or GH now??? I've been waiting for this FOREVER!!! Esp. the guitar part. Imagine DSOTM and The Wall on Guitar Hero. This =s awesome...
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The mp3 album (and I presume CD version) has multiple tracks. Amazon allows you to buy them individually.
Everyone has already downloaded Pink Floyd's entire discography already.
Personally I have bought several of their albums and tapes, so they made money off me already. Roger Waters and Dave Gilmour should be knighted.
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should have worked 'Digging for gold in the hole in your hand" in there somewhere.
Kind of stupid, since the album "Wish you were here" (my favorite), some of the tracks blend into one another. Same with a lot of PF albums. But, I guess they can make more money selling track at a time, opposed to the entire album.
Well, you know wrongly then. There's even what might be an urban legend about Ted Nugent becoming a controlling stock holder of Muzak simply to avoid ever having any of his music done by them. Parodies on the other hand...
Why do I M2 everything negatively?
Wikipedia disagrees with you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cover_version#U.S._copyright_law (Although that is in the US. I don't have the patience to find the UK law.)
You know, I think I misinterpreted your 1st post. Too early in the morning. You don't need permission to do a cover tune, but if you start playing that song on the radio without paying your fees then I hope your lawyer is cheap.
Why do I M2 everything negatively?
Sure, but can PF decide what the fees are? I thought it was a standard rate depending on the number of listeners.
"Now, though they've given in to the Man, and the likes of Money, Shine on you Crazy Diamond and Comfortably Numb will soon no doubt be available as 99p downloads on iTunes."
Erm, I've been hearing those songs individually on the RADIO for DECADES.
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You are absolutely right in your assessment. Still, you have to pay those fees if you are anything approaching a pro. What I call "fees" should be interpreted as your ASCAP dues & any royalty percentage due.
Like I said, lack of caffeine does dangerously stupid things to me :)
Why do I M2 everything negatively?
Fair enough, the dangerous effects of caffeine abstinence are all too well known by me ;)
My point was just that Pink Floyd didn't really lose any integrity if they couldn't have stopped the cover version from being aired anyway.
I gave up on AC/DC a while back. No digital downloads, and they have an exclusive deal with WalMart for their recent stuff. Sorry, boys, I don't go to WalMart; too much of a pain to get to even if I wanted. But's there's a Pirate Bay right here in my neighborhood. You can't even download Rock Band tracks. You have to go to WalMart to buy a physical RB disc.
Thing is, if the AC/DC box set showed on iTunes tomorrow, I'd drop the $149US as fast as I could type my iTunes password. Instead, they haven't seen a dime of my money in over ten years, money I'm more than happy to give them. Maybe they have more business acumen than I'll ever have, but it strikes me as shockingly dumb.
Too lazy to read the story, but I have Dark Side of the Moon on mp3. I got them from Amazon when they were running their Pepsi Points promotion a few years back. Took me a couple months, but I was killing myself (and my bank account) with Diet Pepsi at the time, so every week or so I got a free download and this was the album I chose. In retrospect I should have bought it on CD years ago, but hey, they got a customer.
Anyway, they just break the tracks where the CD does. Set your playback device for gapless and it works as expected.
My God, it's Full of Source!
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