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Ask Slashdot: Undoing an Internet Smear Campaign?

An anonymous reader writes "My fiancee is a professional writer. She has a great industry reputation and everyone that knows her loves her. But her ex-husband has maintained a number of websites in her name (literally, the URL is her name) that are filled with insane ravings and defamatory content. Have you ever had to deal with an internet smear campaign? The results float to the top of every Google or Bing search of her name. He currently lives abroad and cannot be served with legal papers. His websites are hosted overseas as well, and do not respond to conventional letters or petitions. Because of his freedom of speech rights, few U.S. courts will assert that his websites are truly libelous, either, and it's still difficult to prove any real 'damages' are done by it. Still, we'd like to see them go away. I'm turning to the best community of geeks in the world: how do I deal with this given the limited options at my disposal?"

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  1. three letters... by jfalcon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    SEO

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    1. Re:three letters... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      mmmm... I wouldn't bother. Seems like you'd be feeding the troll. Why spend time and effort on that?

      Honestly, the only thing I could say is just endure and tell people the truth of the situation if they ask. If this guy maintains this for any huge length of time, he just looks sad.

    2. Re:three letters... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Indeed. Google and Bing consider the "insane ravings" as more relevant than the articles your fiancee writes, which doesn't say much about the popularity of your fiancee's work. Given this, it's fairly unlikely that she is losing any significant readership as a result of the ex's campaign.

    3. Re:three letters... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Got to agree with the preceding AC.

      Sounds like something she needs to resolve, but I'm guessing your involvement will not improve matters.

    4. Re:three letters... by Tanktalus · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Of course, if it's a potential client who is simply nervous about her, she could lose gigs. I mean, as long as she has no problems finding work, that's not an issue, but it could mean less competition for her services (less demand may mean less pay), or simply an extra week, month, whatever, that she might have been able to fill with work that she may not be able to this way.

      Socially? Sure, no problem. I mean, if you googled my real name, one of the top hits would be a black dude trying to find a date from prison. My coworkers and I have laughted about that. But if that has in any way impeded my ability to job search, that would be, at the very least, unfortunate. (But, in my case, I can't even fathom any suggestion that there is malice here, nevermind something illegal to hang a legal battle on. Poor guy just wants a date. Much unlike the OP's problem.) In a social situation, there's no point in feeding the troll, but in a job search situation, there may be a bigger reason for wanting to bury the ex's ramblings behind a page or three of search rankings.

    5. Re:three letters... by Belial6 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And if you know that your fiancee's ex is a raving lunatic because she was perfectly nice every date you went on with her while she was still married to the guy, just accept your fate.

    6. Re:three letters... by Trunksword · · Score: 2

      I think worst part is that I knew exactly what you meant by MDK before i read the last part.

    7. Re:three letters... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      In addition, I would take that fact as a red flag and reconsider whether I really want to be married to this person. Maybe what he says has merit? Maybe she is a fucking sociopath? Do you know the ex-husband? Maybe spend the time learning about him and be objective.

      Apparently the ex reads slashdot.

    8. Re:three letters... by sg_oneill · · Score: 1

      Actually google penalizes news articles and puts them in a separate index. If she's a good writer thats *why* she's not appearing in the front page of the general search index.

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    9. Re:three letters... by msobkow · · Score: 1

      Most people have a "sibling" with the same name somewhere in the world. For example, there's a "Mark Sobkow" in the US who works in the tech industry, the same as I do. People using Google would get pages for both of us.

      I'd suggest you can't do any more about the situation in the article than you can about someone who shares the same name and posts stuff that *you* don't like or respect.

      i.e. Ignore it and get on with your life.

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    10. Re:three letters... by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

          That's the best advice so far.. A big "who cares". :)

          If you search my real name, you'll come up with thousands of people.

          If you search my alias, you still get a bunch of people. If you start trying to figure out what "J" stands for, it opens the pool up to even more. Linking my site obviously points back to a small bit of me, but not the whole me.

          Over the years, people have tried to piece together the "me" from the parts of "me" out there. They've come up with some pretty colorful ideas.

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    11. Re:three letters... by JWSmythe · · Score: 5, Funny

      There's actually *more* fun to be had there. You don't have just the luxury of making your online presence, but as many alter egos with the same name as you'd like. You can bury yourself in so much varied information that no one will know what to believe.

      I found out the hard way, that there's always some asshole (or sometimes many) who want to find you. Let me tell you about one in particular.

      I worked for a place for a long time. I got laid off because someone would do it cheaper (and worse). A few years later, some third party I knew absolutely nothing about decided to sue the company. Because I had access to so much information while I was there, they decided I would testify for them.

      Part of this luxury paid witness gig I would have to spend at least a couple days about 400 miles from. At this particular time, I wasn't working, and my savings were dropping down below nil. Good gig, some may think. They gave me something like $20 in checks, and a subpoena for all kinds of paperwork that I either never had, or no longer had. I countered with an offer for my advertised hourly rate, and per diem expenses, which they responded with laughter and a bench warrant. Well, they said they had the bench warrant. It turns out it was a lie. Hmm.. Lawyers lying, say it's not so.

      As the senior IT guy, I *had* access to every electronic document, and knew every password, and knew where all the secrets were kept. Oddly enough, the day I was cut loose was the day all the passwords were changed. All of my access to everything was lost. I made it a habit not to even archive my email at home. When they cut me loose, I dumped my email. I didn't want it any more. I sure as hell didn't keep it laying around for years. I needed the drive space for porn. :) Just kidding. With my newly found luxury time, I rotated through machines trying out different OSs, just because I could. I always kept one up to send out resumes every day.

      So with no fundage, nothing to contribute to the court, and no way to get there, I wrote the judge a very nice letter, copied to the counsel on both sides, saying basically I didn't have anything they wanted (line item by line item), and that I didn't have funds to participate in their games.

      I then started on a lucrative career in house sitting and transporting cars. Well, lucrative as in I had somewhere to sleep and food to eat, but no expendable cash. I did get around a bit, because I knew what was coming next.

      The assholes that were suing, and I refer to them kindly as that, decided to go on a quest. They were going to find me, with law enforcement in tow, and "compel" me to testify. Basically, they had something in legaleeze that said handcuffs were acceptable to make someone testify in a BS civil lawsuit. Their private investigators with an off duty law enforcement officer, kept showing up to places I either used to be at, or claimed I was at online. Between MySpace, Facebook, FourSquare, and Twitter, I made a very clear trail to follow, and follow they did. Some of it was echoed back to me indirectly that they were going out to whenever I said I was, even though the echoing party didn't know that's what I was claiming. :)

      I wasn't sure how much pull they had, so when I could borrow some cash, I'd pick up pre-paid credit cards (Like the Green Dot cards), and have them sent back to one of the known addresses in my name. They would then mail them off to other friends in other states for them to use. Those friends would send cash back to the person who paid for it, so nothing was really lost. It's strange, I can buy a tank of gas in California, have dinner in Seattle, and then buy cigarettes in Alaska, while my online presence said I was in New York, but chattering about recent earthquakes in Los Angeles.

      At one point, I went my family financed cell phone on a cross country trip. I'd leave it turned on, so it would go as long as possible on

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    12. Re:three letters... by brokenin2 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Even better.. Hire a reputable SEO company for yourself, and hire a dirtbag SEO company that does their best to cheat the system (link sites linking to more link sites etc) to promote the Ex's BS sites.... If you do it right, you should be able to promote your own a bit, and get google to ban the other sites for search engine manipulation.. Google has some very strict rules, and you just have to make sure you break them when promoting the undesirable site.. Wasn't it Sony that Google banned temporarily for improper search engine optimizations? I don't think Google's bans are normally temporary.. if they are though, I'm pretty sure they're not short term.. Sony had to kiss some butt to get into Google after only a few days..

    13. Re:three letters... by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 1

      Google and Bing consider the "insane ravings" as more relevant than the articles your fiancee writes, which doesn't say much about the popularity of your fiancee's work.

      It sounds like the hostile sites are exact match domains, which probably still gets them a major boost if they are based on the victim's name, even allowing for the Google algorithm changes in the final months of 2012.

      Given this, it's fairly unlikely that she is losing any significant readership as a result of the ex's campaign.

      You can't possibly know that.

      Though it would be interesting to see whether, if the sites are going to be up there anyway, the victim can play the Streisand card somehow to turn this to her advantage, both raising her profile and setting the record straight in the process.

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    14. Re:three letters... by black6host · · Score: 2

      There's actually *more* fun to be had there. You don't have just the luxury of making your online presence, but as many alter egos with the same name as you'd like. You can bury yourself in so much varied information that no one will know what to believe.

      Actually you may be on to something here. Ok, the person is using the real name for the domain and is smearing someone. Create a lot of similar domains, create a lot of conflicting information, use SEO tactics to bring them up front. Make sure the real name of the person being harassed is used everywhere. Link to those sites from multiple places. Use her real name on forums, etc. Make sure that all the info you post contradicts itself. In other words, create so much "noise" that nobody is likely to know what to believe and the domain using her real name is just one of many that has conflicting information.

    15. Re:three letters... by ryanov · · Score: 1

      Likewise. I have a long and unique last name that few seem to have, let alone my first name.

    16. Re:three letters... by marto · · Score: 1

      How can it be unique if a few people have it?

    17. Re:three letters... by Chrisq · · Score: 1

      Have you considered that your Fiancee herself is indeed running those websites, and has a fractured personality?

      No, surely that can't be the situation.

      Or more likely she is running them to gain sympathy and direct hate towards her ex.

    18. Re:three letters... by bjourne · · Score: 1

      That's not how it works. You can not sink a site by pointing lots of outgoing sites to it. You can only sink your own site that way by linking to lots of dubious sites. If you could sink sites the way you propose, I can assure you that there is a whole industry of unscrupulous marketers that would have exploited that technique already. Rankings in high-competition keywords such as poker, gambling and travel are so valuable that it would make sense to spend a small fortune downgrading a competitor a few steps. To remove them completely from the index? Invaluable.

    19. Re:three letters... by squiggly12 · · Score: 1

      That was a delightful read regardless. :)

    20. Re:three letters... by lexlthr · · Score: 1

      I have no points, but that was a very funny post.

    21. Re:three letters... by PIBM · · Score: 1

      I was kind of expecting an ending boasting about the anti-virus that finally saved your life or prevent you from being required to testify once and for all, but I guess that was a nice read altogether :)

    22. Re:three letters... by ideonexus · · Score: 1

      Part of the SEO thing might be to try a slight rebranding. Are the domain names "firstname+lastname.com"? My brother was in a somewhat similar situation with a lawyer who had the same name as him who was coming up in all the search results. So my brother rebranded himself to "firstname+middlename+lastname.com", put that on all his promotional materials, and made sure any publicity about him listed all three names to distinguish himself from the other guy.

      I imagine future generations are going to increasingly resort these sorts of techniques as the web grows and parents will increasingly have to find more and more unique names for their children to distinguish them. In the meantime, if your wife's slanderer hasn't been thorough enough in his domain purchases, then you can take the step of attaching her brand to her complete name.

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    23. Re:three letters... by troutner · · Score: 1

      Don't be too sure about this. No one knows for sure what Google's rules are at this point. Google changed the rules about linking only a few months ago. I'm an SEO professional, and I think this strategy would be worth a try. Research J C Penny and their SEO efforts. They got slammed about a year ago for spammy links and everything was pretty well documented in the media. Just do what they did and point the links to the negative site.

    24. Re:three letters... by Stoopiduk · · Score: 1

      Amazed you didn't go for the Chrome example - didn't google drop Google Chrome in results for certain keywords last year after it was revealed they were paying for blog posts?

    25. Re:three letters... by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      BAT (as in baseball) I'd have thought...

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    26. Re:three letters... by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      You can always tell you're on slashdot when misogynistic crap gets brought up as though it were a sensible debating point.

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    27. Re:three letters... by previewlounge · · Score: 1

      awesome, magnificently so.

    28. Re:three letters... by datavirtue · · Score: 1

      ICANN
      File a complaint with the domain name registrars or ICANN, alternativley it is ICANN policy to revoke domain names if served with a lawsuit by the entity holding a trademark or name when another entity has established the domain for no commercial reason.

      http://www.icann.org/en/help/dndr/udrp/policy

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    29. Re:three letters... by sjames · · Score: 1

      Better yet, apply the many many SEO techniques known to get your site tanked by Google to the offending sites. Make it look like the center of a link farm, for example

    30. Re:three letters... by Applekid · · Score: 1

      False Flag is misogynistic? Could you elaborate on this apparent non sequitur?

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  2. Fight speech with more speech? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Put up your own website... fill it with good content... get links?

    1. Re:Fight speech with more speech? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Also, post links to Slashdot. What'll happen is the /. effect will take the site down.

    2. Re:Fight speech with more speech? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      " I'm turning to the best community of geeks in the world" - You're on the wrong website. Try 4Chan...heheheh

    3. Re:Fight speech with more speech? by ae1294 · · Score: 1

      You're on the wrong website. Try 4Chan...heheheh

      Just don't touch anything while you're in there. And I mean ANYTHING... Unless you happen to bring a UV lamp and even then please be safe and wear gloves... If they offer you anything to eat or drink just say "No thank you" as accepting ether is equal to agreeing to the anal rapes and filming among many many other things you really don't want happening...And remember what happens in 4Chan hardly ever remains in 4Chan as moot does bring in a pressure washer once a year or so....

  3. As The Maxim Goes by l0ungeb0y · · Score: 4, Funny

    What Happens On The Internet, Stays On The Internet.

    1. Re:As The Maxim Goes by Jetra · · Score: 2

      However, people often lose interest and it falls out attention in like, what? 3 days?

    2. Re:As The Maxim Goes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      everyone that knows her loves her

      I heard that from her ex husband

  4. Possibility by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "Because of his freedom of speech rights, few U.S. courts will assert that his websites are truly libelous, either, and it's still difficult to prove any real 'damages' are done by it. Still, we'd like to see them go away."

    Simple. Form a Corporation using the name. Instant win.

    1. Re:Possibility by exomondo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      "few U.S. courts will assert that his websites are truly libelous, either, and it's still difficult to prove any real 'damages' are done by it"

      This makes me wonder what exactly the content is, if it's not truly libelous and there is no real damage being done is there really a problem? Seems more like a 'he's written something i don't like' situation, can't really tell without know what the content is though.

    2. Re:Possibility by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I agree, this sounds like "I don't like what he's saying about me, and I can't do anything about it legally". The answer is man-up (or woman-up) and ignore it, or as others have said, or create a website to refute his claims, etc.

      One step away from a personal army request...

    3. Re:Possibility by meta-monkey · · Score: 2

      Well, but things can be nasty, and "insane ravings" without being libelous. Laws vary state to state, and federally, but generally opinions are not libelous. I can write "I think exomondo is a jerk!" all I want and you'll never win a libel suit against me in the US. But if I write "exomondo is a jerk because he stole $10,000 from me," and you didn't actually steal any money, now we're talking libel.

      So the ex-husband can go on a TimeCube-esque rant about how the ex-wife is crazy and she's stupid and she's mean and just a terrible, terrible person all the way around, and he's not doing anything libelous, unless he starts stating false facts, like that she beat the kids black and blue when she did no such thing.

      I think, however, OP might have a shot at at least getting the URL back, as I know companies have been able to get ICANN to evict cybersquatters using their trademarked names. So if her name is Sally Smith, she might be able to get "sallysmith.com" back from someone who is not also named Sally Smith (and I'm assuming the ex-husband has a different name). But if it's variations on that, like "sallysmithisawhore.com" she probably can't get that. Unless she goes into the whoring business and can argue a trademark dispute.

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    4. Re:Possibility by rtb61 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Reality here. Take a deep breath, realise that there are tens of billions of pages and by far the majority get seen by very few people. The next step is really hard "ABANDON YOUR DELUSIONS OF GRANDEUR" forget the pseudo celebrity bullshit, by far and I mean well and truly by far the majority of people on the planet do not give a shit one way or the other. Seriously so what?

      As for getting to the top of searchers simply report those pages as gaming the system to google and bing for advertising revenue. Generally those the freak out the most about what is on the web about them, lawyering up and such, well, it often because it is true and they make more profit from the lies.

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    5. Re:Possibility by GryMor · · Score: 4, Informative

      I may of course be missreading things, but what I gathered is that the ex is writing insane ravings on the site (using your name placeholder) sallysmith.com, not about Sally Smith, but implicitly AS Sally Smith, with the intent of making it look like Sally Smith is a raving nutjob to those who do a search for her name. Presumably, it's a rather more unique name than Sally Smith, so there is less probability of it being ignored as a naming collision. However, as the OP's fiancee is apparently a writer, it could be written in a way to make it really look like the author of the books and the author of the crazy screed are the same person without actually claiming they are.

      If the site DOES claim to be the author, the fiancee may have grounds for slander of title, or, in some jurisdictions (and heavily dependent on the content of the crazed ramblings), there may be infringement on moral rights related to the original works.

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    6. Re:Possibility by exomondo · · Score: 1

      Well, but things can be nasty, and "insane ravings" without being libelous. Laws vary state to state, and federally, but generally opinions are not libelous. I can write "I think exomondo is a jerk!" all I want and you'll never win a libel suit against me in the US.

      Yeah that's what i'm thinking, it could be him masquerading as 'Sally Smith' or presenting his personal opinion of her or - as you say - a TimeCube-esque rant. But without knowing the content it's hard to advise whether to just suck it up and ignore it or to work to find some way to resolve it. There is always the possibility that it's your other example "exomondo is a jerk because he stole $10,000 from me" but in this case it could be true, who knows, maybe she's done something like that and perhaps even had a change of heart and resolved it but the facts remain. Hard to know without seeing what's been written.
      Reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where Jerry bounces a cheque at the bodega and even though he returns to pay for the goods plus an extra 30% for the trouble the store owner keeps the cheque up to show everybody what happened.

      I think, however, OP might have a shot at at least getting the URL back, as I know companies have been able to get ICANN to evict cybersquatters using their trademarked names.

      I've heard that too but could you really trademark your name and retroactively acquire all domain names associated with it?

    7. Re:Possibility by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 1

      Your own website, with disclaimers, e.g. "Not affiliated with that coffee-nosed, malodorous pervert who is trading on my name as www...tld"

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    8. Re:Possibility by 517714 · · Score: 1

      The speech generator in my browser converts libel to slander. The speech recognition engine in my word processor converts slander to libel. Isn't technology wonderful?

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    9. Re:Possibility by Custard+Horse · · Score: 1

      or create a website to refute his claims

      There really is no point. She should register her own domain that doesn't use her name and promote that instead. With thoughtful use of metadata any searches will rank the author's page ahead of the ex's pages.

    10. Re:Possibility by PurplePhase · · Score: 1

      Why didn't this come up: identity theft, anyone? I think that's a decently serious charge in the U.S., right?

    11. Re:Possibility by GryMor · · Score: 1

      Slander of Title term of art relating to false claims about significant property. It does not depend upon the medium in which the false claims are made.

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  5. Murder by YodasEvilTwin · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Or counter-smear.

    1. Re:Murder by Grishnakh · · Score: 4, Funny

      Concrete shoes.

    2. Re:Murder by Genda · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Might I suggest hosting the site in third world country without diplomatic ties to the U.S. or any of the countries he lives (or has lived) in. Have the site host the most vile and disgusting human perversions... links to NAMBLA, Neo-Nazi Organizations, Satanic Churches, and perhaps Skat-Play with Enema Porn as a cherry on top. Attack all good and reputable organizations you can think of. In short, make it a festering sore on the ass of the universe. Have the site advertise in papers in his local town. Have a man with a thick accent, call him or email him with a demand for 10 $1,000 checks to close down the site (checks must have "Pay To" left blank.)

      Fill checks out to grotesque organizations and institutions and make donations. Send Anonymous letters to local newspapers about the "Monster" living in our midst. When it comes out that he's only getting what he's giving... he'll be a social pariah. He started this, the best he can do is complain that he's getting better than he's giving. Make certain you appoint an MC and never contact them again. You know nothing about this, have nothing to do with this and don't care to be a part of the drama he's created. Of course this could easily escalate into death and dismemberment. Not to mention the bad karma.

      A better ploy would be to Create a Nonprofit Organization for the protection of people from Stalkers, Abusers, and Infantile Ex's who seem to be unable to move on with their lives. Use his sites and his attacks as examples of the evil idiocy perpetrated by angry men with small penii, and explain that people being abused by the small minded and even smaller hearted need to stick together and expose the Bozo's publicly. Speak with your Senator about passing a law that prevents this kind of abuse in country and contact the nation he's in to inform them that he's using their infrastructure to perpetrate evil acts half way around the world. Take the high ground. Help people. Show him compassion he doesn't deserve. Send him pictures of you smiling and thank him for inspiring you to create an organization to help women being abused by Idiot Exs. Let him know he's made you a better person, stronger, happier. Thank him. It'll drive him crazy.

    3. Re:Murder by alexander_686 · · Score: 1

      Drone Strikes. It seems to work for Uncle Sam.

    4. Re:Murder by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      Have the site host the most vile and disgusting human perversions... links to NAMBLA, Neo-Nazi Organizations, Satanic Churches, and perhaps Skat-Play with Enema Porn as a cherry on top

      You kind of went down in vile and disgustingness there. Would have been a more effective statement had you worked UP to NAMBLA rather than down from it.

    5. Re:Murder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      A business man I know had a similar problem. A former associate had been maintaining web sites and posting libelous smear campaigns online. The associate lived in Europe and the business man in the US, so going through the legal system was of no use. It was becoming so prevalent that the business man's reputation was being tarnished. The associate clearly had mental problems and was not going to stop of his own accord. So the business man used his connections within the intelligence community and hired some masked men who broke into the associate's house and threatened him at gun point. They held him at gun point while he deleted all websites and unregistered domain names, and then left, telling him that if he contacted police or posted anything new online they would be back to kill him. So while murder is never really a recommended solution, in this case the threat of murder did stop the online smear campaign.

    6. Re:Murder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "men with small penii"
      The only 'murder' here is the English language - 'penii', indeed!

    7. Re:Murder by CDS · · Score: 1

      Cyanide.
      TNT.

      Neckties.
      Contracts.
      HIGH VOLTAGE!!

    8. Re:Murder by ajlowe · · Score: 1

      I hear the South Africans are good at wet work...

    9. Re:Murder by Genda · · Score: 1

      You would have preferred "Penissessssesseeeesss?"

    10. Re:Murder by ExploHD · · Score: 1

      Don't forget to include on the site animated GIFs, a visitor counter, and moving text.

    11. Re:Murder by ub3r+n3u7r4l1st · · Score: 1

      It depends on which country. Under Sharia Law, the man can divorce his wife via text message.

    12. Re:Murder by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      The associate lived in Europe and the business man in the US, so going through the legal system was of no use.

      Yeah, because they like totally don't have libel laws over there.

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    13. Re:Murder by YodasEvilTwin · · Score: 1

      Do their libel laws protect US citizens?

  6. Four Letters: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    DDOS

  7. ICANN by ilikenwf · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Copyright the name, contact ICANN and have the domains yanked.

    1. Re:ICANN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      And remember ownership of .com sites is still under us jurisdiction, and .co.uk has probably the strictest libel laws outside of China or North Korea.

    2. Re:ICANN by rgbrenner · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      Copyright does not apply to names, corporate names, product names, or any other type of name. Learn the difference kid, because it makes you sound stupid.

    3. Re:ICANN by g0bshiTe · · Score: 4, Informative

      It would be trademark, not copyright.

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    4. Re:ICANN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Learn the difference kid, because it makes you sound stupid.

      Apparently both "stupid" people and arseholes (assholes for those from the USA) are allowed to comment on slashdot.

      Call this reply whatever you like.

    5. Re:ICANN by nbauman · · Score: 2

      That's right. I can't find it in a quick Google search, but we went through that several years ago. Cybersquatters claimed a whole bunch of celebrity names, and tried to sell/blackmail the celebrities into buying them back at exorbitant prices. (I forget the examples, can anybody help me?)

      Your name is your personal property, and you have a right to it, especially if you're using it as a business. You can make your right even more official by registering a business in your name.

      Then ICANN will yank their names. There's a dispute procedure. Can somebody come up with the URL?

    6. Re:ICANN by 1u3hr · · Score: 1

      Copyright the name, contact ICANN and have the domains yanked.

      It's impossible to "copyright" a name, even your own.

      You might be able to trademark it, but that requires lawyers. Also, you'd have to trademark it in the country where the domain is hosted to have any effect.

    7. Re:ICANN by Grayhand · · Score: 1

      It would be trademark, not copyright.

      Also trademark his name and use it to post ads for Viagra and adult diapers on the site. You don't even have to make statements about him personally let the ads do the talking for you.

    8. Re:ICANN by Card+Zero · · Score: 1

      Julia Roberts is the textbook example.

  8. Trademark violation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ... is the legal term you're looking for.

    A trademark doesn't have to be registered. If she's been writing under her own name for years, then her name is a valuable piece of intellectual property and it's entitled to exactly the same protections as the name of 'Mickey Mouse'.

    Of course, that means you need to act quickly before the trademark is considered to be officially diluted or worthless.

    IANAL, TINLA etc.

    1. Re:Trademark violation by flyneye · · Score: 2

      Anon cow may be right about TM violation.
      Outside of that, there is only stooping to his level.
      What country does he live in? In Mexico and S. American countries , a couple hundred U.S. dollars go a long way toward removing his hands to keep him from typing.
      Do some of the old school hacks on him; call up and have his utilities shut off, use a remailing service to have him loudly proclaim anti-govenment sentiment or terrorist threats to his local newspapers. Have illicit internet recreational drug sites start sending him contraband. Make friends with "Anonymous", they specialize in dealing with asshats.
              OR just spend a lot of money and time doing things the "right" way with no guaranteed outcome. Let your wallet and your conscience fight it out over who will be your guide.
            Your wife, she has other skills if her ex buries her, right? Waiting tables, cleaning houses, etc....

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    2. Re:Trademark violation by TranquilVoid · · Score: 1

      There's a lot of people suggesting this however my amateur opinion is that the trademark is irrelevant. The ex is not trading under her name but providing information on the subject of her. This may contravene privacy or libel laws but I doubt she can use trademark regulation for this any more than Disney can stop Wikipedia because they don't like the mention of parodies.

      The only potential is that .com is theoretically considered commerical however in practice it has never been the case.

    3. Re:Trademark violation by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      my amateur opinion is that the trademark is irrelevant. The ex is not trading under her name

      Perhaps your opinion would be more professional if you'd read, at the minimum, the summary:

      "But her ex-husband has maintained a number of websites in her name"

      (Emphasis added for the benefit of the hard of understanding. That means retards, i.e. you)

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    4. Re:Trademark violation by TranquilVoid · · Score: 1

      Thanks, I didn't miss that, as he says in parentheses

      (literally, the URL is her name)

      What I may have missed is the nature of the content of the site. I assumed it was "Jane Smith is an xxxx and likes to yyyy"*, i.e. defamatory content and libel about her. On re-reading it could be that the site pretends to be her presenting defamatory content about others which I presume is your take. It's not perfectly clear.

      * Which would make it informational and my point was that the ex was then not trading. Informational sites are well-established on the internet and there is no chance of anyone mistaking this type of site as being her own work in contrast to, say, the ex producing Jane Smith's Arsenic-Laden Chocolate Bar.

  9. Re:Reputation.com? by ilikenwf · · Score: 2

    Eh..."reputation management" and SEO have basically been all but outlawed by Google. Just point a bunch of phpld directory links at his site with irrelivant keywords and descriptions...or submit a DMCA takedown request to the search engines.

  10. Challenge the domain ownership by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Trademark her name and submit an ownership transfer appeal to the domain authority.

    1. Re:Challenge the domain ownership by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      " This policy has now been replaced with a Uniform Domain Name Dispute Resolution Policy created by ICANN and used by all accredited registrars. Under this new policy, a trademark owner can initiate a relatively inexpensive administrative procedure to challenge the existing domain name. In order to prevail, the trademark owner must show:

              that the trademark owner owns a trademark (either registered or unregistered) that is the same or confusingly similar to the registered second level domain name;
              that the party that registered the domain name has no legitimate right or interest in the domain name; and
              that the domain name was registered and used in bad faith.

      If the trademark owner successfully proves all three points in the administrative proceeding, then the domain name can either be cancelled or transferred to the prevailing trademark owner. If the trademark owner fails to prove one of these points, the administrative panel will not cancel nor transfer the domain name."

      http://www.bitlaw.com/internet/domain.html

    2. Re:Challenge the domain ownership by jimshatt · · Score: 3, Informative

      that the domain name was registered and used in bad faith

      The domain name seems to be registered in good faith. Depending on prenuptial agreements, she might have as much claim on the domain name as he has already. A divorce lawyer might be able to help you out (IANAL tho).

    3. Re:Challenge the domain ownership by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      it might have been registered in good faith, but it doesn't sound as though it is being /used/ in good faith. Thus, ICANN's rules apply to the situation (assuming the situation was described accurately).

    4. Re:Challenge the domain ownership by ironjaw33 · · Score: 2

      When I was looking to register my unusual last name as a domain, a squatter snapped it up before I could register it. I guess they troll whois lookups somehow. I now have ($name).org and ($name).net, but .com is registered to the squatter. For now, the .com site has some harmless ads, but I suppose that could change. The squatter also maintains a site which tries to extort "hosting" fees if you want to use one of the 2,000 domains he owns.

      Several trademark owners filed complaints about this squatter (one of them was Google) and all of them won and had the domains transferred. The proceedings of each arbitration can be read online, and in each case, the squatter put up some ridiculous defenses which the arbiter easily shot down. According to the UDRP Wikipedia page, arbitration costs about $2-4k in legal fees. Since the domain doesn't host anything defamatory, it's not really worth the cost to try and get ownership, but if it did, I'd probably consider filing a dispute.

    5. Re:Challenge the domain ownership by crypticedge · · Score: 1

      Network solutions was at one point known to do that automatically if someone whoised a site. They'd register the alternate domains of it, then do the cancellation before they had to pay the ICANN fees for it.

      I think they got smacked down for it, but if they were doing it, theres probably going to be others too.

  11. IANAL by rueger · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And obviously neither is the OP: "He currently lives abroad and cannot be served with legal papers. His websites are hosted overseas as well, and do not respond to conventional letters or petitions. Because of his freedom of speech rights, few U.S. courts will assert that his websites are truly libelous, either,

    For God's sake begin by hiring someone who actually knows about this stuff instead of relying on what you learned from daytime TV.

    1. Re:IANAL by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      If you're insulting Judge Judy - them's fightin' words.

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  12. Use the Chewbacca Defense by Antipater · · Score: 1

    If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must shut down these websites!

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    1. Re:Use the Chewbacca Defense by guttentag · · Score: 1

      If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must shut down these websites!

      I thought the Chewbacca Defense involved speaking loudly and unintelligibly until the other side gives up in frustration. It "works" for most politicians.

    2. Re:Use the Chewbacca Defense by witherstaff · · Score: 1

      Maybe it's an old geek with memory probs? After all originally there were going to be Wookies on Endor but after rewrites the Ewoks showed up.

    3. Re:Use the Chewbacca Defense by Antipater · · Score: 1

      Wow, I figured /. readers would at least get a South Park reference. This makes me sad.

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    4. Re:Use the Chewbacca Defense by Jerry+Smith · · Score: 1
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    5. Re:Use the Chewbacca Defense by witherstaff · · Score: 1

      Now that you mention it and seeing the wiki I vaguely recall it. I think those years of South Park being overly preachy just made me lose whatever memory I had of most South Park. Oddly enough the prequels didn't make me lose stars wars trivia. Those formed at a younger age and are deeply embedded.

  13. Don't bother? by Sheetrock · · Score: 4, Insightful

    She has a great industry reputation and everyone that knows her loves her.

    That's what matters. Maybe she can trademark her name and seize the domain as being confusingly similar, but it's still throwing time and attention at somebody who clearly craves it, for dubious gain.

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    1. Re:Don't bother? by rgbrenner · · Score: 3, Informative

      He said the material is not libelous. I'm allowed to start a domain called SheetrockIsATerriblePerson.com and post criticisms about you. That's not trademark infringement. You cannot use trademark law to silence critics.

      Wal-mart tried this in 2008:
      http://www.citmedialaw.org/blog/2008/court-rejects-wal-marts-bid-silence-criticism-through-trademark-law

    2. Re:Don't bother? by Grishnakh · · Score: 2

      Right, but on the other hand, you're not allowed to register the domain "walmart.com" (in a parallel universe where Walmart has, for some strange reason, not already registered this domain) and then post criticisms of it. With "walmart-sucks-and-i-hate-them.com", you're not posing as Walmart themselves, it's clear that you're a separate party that just doesn't like them.

    3. Re:Don't bother? by Sheetrock · · Score: 1

      I was thinking of this in terms of ICANN's UDRP, not American libel or trademark law.

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    4. Re:Don't bother? by ZeroPly · · Score: 1

      You can do all this legal stuff, and maybe after spending a few thousand he'll find a different venue, or...

      Find out where the ex-husband works. Obtain an employee list. Start sending mail to people detailing what he's doing, with screenshots of the websites. Repeat with his friends. Repeat with his family. Repeat with anyone he's dating.

      Anonymity works to your advantage as well as the ex's...

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    5. Re:Don't bother? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I'm allowed to start a domain called SheetrockIsATerriblePerson.com...

      Excuse me, but that is the trademarked name of my art collection. It's sculptures of people made out of sheet rock. And it's terrible.

    6. Re:Don't bother? by Control-Z · · Score: 1

      I have to agree. She will probably get more converts by doing good work and word of mouth than the presence or absence of screwball websites that involve her name. Might not hurt to mention something like "This is my official site, any other sites that purport to be me aren't operated or sanctioned by me."

  14. No. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    That link is about folks who actually did those things and want to bury things that they think a future employer may find objectionable.

    In this case, someone is making shit up and defaming someone.

    The person asking this needs to have his wife sue. Do not pass go. Go directly to lawyer.

    1. Re:No. by jb11 · · Score: 3, Informative

      That link is about folks who actually did those things and want to bury things that they think a future employer may find objectionable.

      In this case, someone is making shit up and defaming someone.

      The person asking this needs to have his wife sue. Do not pass go. Go directly to lawyer.

      Actually, the example in the article is about a girl that had a common name that was returning search results that were not about her.

      "From the article: "Samantha Grossman wasn't always thrilled with the impression that emerged when people Googled her name. 'It wasn't anything too horrible,' she said. 'I just have a common name. There would be pictures, college partying pictures, that weren't of me, things I wouldn't want associated with me.'"

    2. Re:No. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      My problem is the opposite. As far as I've been able to determine I am the only person in the world with my first and last name. Worse still, it's not hard to spell. If you search for my name I pull up. Everything I've ever done online pulls up. I've found stuff on the first page of results from 20 years ago that I don't even remember but seems like I would've done it.

    3. Re:No. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Not true. As you can see from the comment summary, I have the exact same name.

  15. try anti cybersquatting or defamation actions by hguorbray · · Score: 2

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cybersquatting

    http://blogs.lawyers.com/2012/11/internet-defamation-cybersquatting/

    http://www.traverselegal.com/internet-defamation/defamation/what-is-a-defamation-of-character-assessment/#more-129

    I'm sure that many laywers will do this for you for $$$, but it may also be possible to have the victim file under ACPA to force the domain names to be given to them
    http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/property00/domain/legislation.html

    but that may only apply to trademark owners and not defamation victims.

    -I'm just sayin'

  16. Libel by headhot · · Score: 1

    Many countries like England have extremely strong libel laws. She should hire an english attorney and have him prosecuted in the UK. Its pretty much irrelevant to the UK system where the harm took place.

    1. Re:Libel by newcastlejon · · Score: 1

      Balls to that, you can deal with these squabbles yourselves!
      Isn't that what Texas is for?

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  17. WHOIS by yakatz · · Score: 5, Informative

    Check the WHOIS information for the domains. If there is any missing information at all or if the phone numbers or email addresses don't work, you can file a report with ICANN. I have found that many times people will not reply to the complaint which means the domains are shut down within a few weeks.

    1. Re:WHOIS by Bill+Dimm · · Score: 1

      I think you got lucky. Several years ago, I discovered that some jerk cloned one of my company's websites. I tried to contact the person through every piece of contact info in the WHOIS record (even sent a letter half way around the world and waited for it to bounce) and it was all bogus. I reported it to ICANN and the response I got after a long wait was something like "the registrar says the contact info is fine." Fortunately, the hosting company was much more responsive and made him change the site.

    2. Re:WHOIS by TubeSteak · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The submitter sounds like they are describing textbook cybersquatting.
      So alternatively, they can try Domain Name Dispute Resolution
      https://www.icann.org/en/help/dndr/udrp

      Disputes alleged to arise from abusive registrations of domain names (for example, cybersquatting) may be addressed by expedited administrative proceedings that the holder of trademark rights initiates by filing a complaint with an approved dispute-resolution service provider.

      You can register [person]sucks.com and shit on them all day long, but you can't expect to register [person].com and keep it.

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  18. Re:four letters... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    DMCA is only for copyright violations

  19. Change your name by MichaelSmith · · Score: 2

    Maybe she should pick a new name, possibly a business name to work through and notify her current circle of contacts of the change.

    1. Re:Change your name by Hentes · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Or get her to take his name when they marry.

    2. Re:Change your name by Billly+Gates · · Score: 2

      Maybe she should pick a new name, possibly a business name to work through and notify her current circle of contacts of the change.

      The problem is every job application I have ever went through demands former names listed so they can do a credit and internet check on your name. She will still get blacklisted after the reporting agency mentions the other sites. They no longer just do criminal background checks anymore.

      There are one or two sites where for a monthly fee an employer types a name and everything about you including lawsuits, blogs, facebook, myspace, livejournal, divorces, and loans pop up that employers use for hiring decisions.

      Suing is bad too as HR feels you may sue them next if they have to fire you. They want a clean record for any position and it is insane as a simple suit agaisnt someone who wrongs you is now a liability.

    3. Re:Change your name by ahabswhale · · Score: 1

      This is exactly what I was thinking. Just change your name (and make sure to register the domain of your new name).

      Of course, there's always the option of hiring Russian hackers to fuck up his site and delete all his data and hack his email so that porn links are sent to his friend, family, and coworkers. They can raid his back accounts while they're at it. And yes, these services are available. Granted, it's completely illegal but if you're truly desperate...

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  20. Alert! Alert! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    This sounds like a tactic to get you to set a date for the wedding... Being a woman, she would have already through of this as the easy out that once she get's married she'll likely change her last name which would help greatly with this issue. Given you haven't brought that up in your post, I'm guessing she hasn't mentioned it to you. This means that your wedding isn't any time in the near future or a date hasn't been set at all. So, I'm guessing you've proposed at some point but aren't commited enough to tie the knot. Once a big deal has been made of this situation, she will suddenly come up with the 'idea' that getting married will solve things, and the sooner the better.

    I'm telling you this because you also need to keep an eye on things in the contraceptive department because if this little ruse doesn't work to get you to hitched, that will be next on the list.

    Look, I know a lot of people here claim to know things they don't, but I am posting as Annonymous Coward because I don't have a slashdot account so you can trust that I know a lot more about women than most people her. Stay strong my brother.

    1. Re:Alert! Alert! by unami · · Score: 1

      nice line of thought - but if he's in that kind of (not telling each other the truth - not really talking to each other) relationship, he's either pretty stupid and probably deserves getting married to a psychopath or should get out of this relationship asap.

    2. Re:Alert! Alert! by ruir · · Score: 1

      Pity I dont have moderation points to mod this up.

    3. Re:Alert! Alert! by Rudisaurus · · Score: 1

      Look, I know a lot of people here claim to know things they don't, but I am posting as Annonymous [sic] Coward because I don't have a slashdot account so you can trust that I know a lot more about women than most people her[e].

      Well, anyone could claim that, really. But since you're actually posting here, you've rather undermined your own credibility.

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  21. Get a lawyer... by seebs · · Score: 1

    Lawyers are much better than slashdot at telling you what your legal options might be.

    Seriously, where do you get this stuff? There's not a lot of obvious overlap between libel law and free speech. At least in the US, the issues are whether material is (1) defamatory and (2) untrue. So far as I know, that's it; if the material's untrue, then saying false things about people is not generally regarded as "free speech". (Note: "untrue" means "provable as a matter of fact to be untrue", not just "I don't think it's true".)

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    1. Re:Get a lawyer... by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      It's still "free speech", even if it's untrue. However, if it's untrue and someone gets mad, they can sue you for civil damages for that speech. You won't go to prison, however; that's why it's free speech: there's no criminal penalties. Remember, in the legal world, there's a huge difference between civil and criminal law. You can get sued (and lose, and have to pay a lot of money in damages) for all kinds of things which are perfectly legal and there's no laws against them. You can only go to prison for things that actually have criminal laws on the books saying you can't do them.

    2. Re:Get a lawyer... by bloodhawk · · Score: 1

      Then she is shit out of luck.

  22. Freedom of speech N/A by atomican · · Score: 1

    Because of his freedom of speech rights, few U.S. courts will assert that his websites are truly libelous

    Freedom of speech in the US seems to be continually misunderstood - it means you have the freedom to talk smack about the Government and they won't seek repercussions. No matter what you think about the state of the country, at least it's safer to criticize the Administration in the US than it would be in, say, Iran or North Korea or even China. And that's all because of freedom of speech.

    This does NOT apply one bit to citizens having a go at one another, and if it can be shows that it's truly smear and there's nothing tangible to the accusations, then it can most definitely be treated as libelous and freedom of speech is irrelevant here. You can't just say whatever you like without there being consequences, particularly if you lie.

    1. Re:Freedom of speech N/A by cdrudge · · Score: 1

      This does NOT apply one bit to citizens having a go at one another, and if it can be shows that it's truly smear and there's nothing tangible to the accusations, then it can most definitely be treated as libelous and freedom of speech is irrelevant here. You can't just say whatever you like without there being consequences, particularly if you lie.

      The problem is that if they live and/or host in a foreign country with a foreign domain, the legal options become more complicated, more expensive, and more difficult to enforce should you win. And even if you go through all the hassles and expenses and win to get journalistsnamesux.co.xx taken down, the whole thing can repeat itself in journalistnameblows.co.yy. It's a legal whack a mole and the only way to win is to get them to stop doing it.

    2. Re:Freedom of speech N/A by DragonWriter · · Score: 1

      Freedom of speech in the US seems to be continually misunderstood - it means you have the freedom to talk smack about the Government and they won't seek repercussions. No matter what you think about the state of the country, at least it's safer to criticize the Administration in the US than it would be in, say, Iran or North Korea or even China. And that's all because of freedom of speech. This does NOT apply one bit to citizens having a go at one another

      Well, the U.S. Supreme Court disagrees, fairly consistently, with your position that Freedom of Speech does not apply to citizens statements directed at other citizens rather than at the government; so, to the extent that the idea that it does apply to these circumstances is a "misunderstanding", its one which is not merely widespread, but has the practical force of law.

    3. Re:Freedom of speech N/A by PCM2 · · Score: 1

      This does NOT apply one bit to citizens having a go at one another, and if it can be shows that it's truly smear and there's nothing tangible to the accusations, then it can most definitely be treated as libelous and freedom of speech is irrelevant here. You can't just say whatever you like without there being consequences, particularly if you lie.

      Yeah, but apparently you can go to someone's funeral and shout "God Hates Fags" and tell all the deceased's relatives that he's burning in Hell, and if they escort you off the premises you can sue them for violating your free speech. So I suspect speech in America is a little freer than you believe it to be.

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  23. Re:Ever heard of free speech by seebs · · Score: 1

    Actually, the submitter didn't say it was true. The submitter didn't even say it was not libel. The submitter said he didn't think a court would find it to be libel, based on "free speech rights".

    This does not argue that the submitter has a nuanced-enough understanding of the law to justify trying to draw specific conclusions about what the facts are from his speculations as to what a court would rule.

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  24. Re:Ever heard of free speech by NeutronCowboy · · Score: 1

    I think you answered your own post. You said the material is not libelous -- ie: it's true.

    Not libelous and false are not two sides of the same coin. You can't infer one from something not being the other. Example: site gets opened with the name of someone in the URL, and the site owner than proceeds to post timecube and NAMBLA articles. Not libel, but not fun either. Or, just reposts random porn to that site. Or of frat parties. Or posts about how great coke and pot are.

    There are great ways to ruin reputations, none of which involve explicit falsehoods. Lets hope you never have to find out first-hand.

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  25. Re:Hacks by newcastlejon · · Score: 1

    Set up some zombies to DDOS him until he goes away.

    You should also talk to a lawyer. Making assumptions about what the law will and won't say when there isn't a lawyer involved is prone to failure.

    I think you have those two steps the wrong way round.

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  26. UDRP by walmass · · Score: 1

    You can easily get the domain name that matches her name.

    1. Have her trademark it
    2. File a UDRP


    For the rest, SEO.

    BTW, you are not the crazy ex trying to figure out how she can take away your cyber-stalking, right?

  27. 4chan by WillgasM · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm pretty sure you meant to post this on /b/

    1. Re:4chan by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

      Just post phone/address on 4chan with info like "cheap grass" and similar stuff.

      "Hey I got some cheap grass - call me at XXXXX"

      And post tits - that will get the attention of most /b/-tards.

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  28. why turn to geeks by mxolisi06 · · Score: 1

    Why turn to us geeks? So that some of us could arrange somehow to get his websites down? I'd rather turn to a PR community if I were you, or a lawyer community (perhaps lawyers in the country of residence of the ex-husband)

  29. Re:Ever heard of free speech by NeutronCowboy · · Score: 1

    Ah, I see your mistake. You think that from IF A THEN B follows If B THEN A. Rookie logic mistake. Not to mention that something can be damaging to a reputation without being strictly false, through merely presenting an unsavory association that is difficult to prove to be incorrect.

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  30. Brand Yourself by Wizy · · Score: 1

    This website is designed specifically for this, and is free.

    http://brandyourself.com/

  31. Fight fire with fire by br00tus · · Score: 1

    Using Bing, Google etc., there are about eight web pages or so that I would not want out there. Oddly enough, the origin of those web pages were back in 1989 when I gave my name and phone # to some local BBSs. BBSs and IRC channels I stopped talking on about 17 years ago. For whatever reasons, these things float back up. They're not all bad, I'd just rather they not be around.

    A solution - on Google a search for my name, first page is my Github, my Twitter, my Stack Overflow, my Facebook (which is fairly employer-scrubbed). Also some other people with my name, ancestral records of people with the same name etc. The following pages are more of the same - me talking on technical mailing lists etc.

    Have them get their name out there in a positive way. Nothing negative about me is on the first 100 searches for my name. It is mostly me on various technical web sites, mailing lists etc.

  32. Re:She's swell? by guttentag · · Score: 1

    How many times have I read an opinion about an injustice on /. only to find out later it wasn't such an injustice? I notice OP didn't provide any URLs to let people make up their own minds.

    Good point! How do we know his fiancée isn't Sarah Palin? If she is, the OP should be aware that Amazon is not a reference to Caribou Barbie, and those negative reviews are not a smear campaign, they're the opinions of people who don't know her personally but read her book and didn't like it.

  33. Re:Reputation.com? by Grishnakh · · Score: 2

    The Mafia (the Sicilian one, not the "MAFIAA") also provides a "clean-up" service that might be useful here....

  34. Re:Ever heard of free speech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It's either true or not. If it's not true, then it's libel. If it is true, then it is not libel, and is protected under the 1st amendment

    "True" equals "not libelous". But "not libelous" does not automatically equal "true".

    There is none of this, "true but also libelous" bullshit you've made up.

    He didn't make that up. You did, as a strawman.

  35. Praise campaign + legal action by Kergan · · Score: 5, Informative

    I've been through this myself...

    As a temporary action, get the word out -- literally. Build a site or two of your own on her if needed, e.g, her official site, then get in touch with her fans, list, the press, whatever, and serve them a sensationalist "writer gets libeled online by her ex" story... If they bite, the site with her name in the domain won't get to Google's first page of results with a little luck. Even if it does, the many results that mention the smear campaign on the same page will serve as a counterweight and douse it.

    In my case, that was enough to get the domain. In case it's not enough for you to do the same, sue...

    Sue the ex-husband for libel, defamation, whatever... but also -- and more importantly -- to recover the domain name. If it's a .com or any other US tld, it's under US jurisdiction and can be seized by a US court; period, end of story -- irrespective of where the ex-boyfriend might be based or hosted. If the MAFIAA can shut down .com domains that serve torrents, and big business can grab domains on grounds that they're too similar to their own, you can shut down or retrieve a domain. Her name is her de facto trademark. Don't just sue the ex-boyfriend, either. Also file complaints with the registrar, the hosting business, etc. They'll take pre-emptive action more often than not when contacted. Consult with an attorney specialized in this kind of stuff, and take action under his guidance.

    1. Re:Praise campaign + legal action by Kergan · · Score: 1

      Neither lying, nor (I hope) a complete idiot... In my case, exposing the fact outright to my lists and other sites were enough to retrieve the domain. I didn't even name the fucker who libeled me, from fear of getting a defamation suit on my end. I merely mentioned that a foul creep was out there to spew crap on me and that he ought to be ignored. At the same time I let him know I'd file complaints against him. And I contacted a (pricey, in retrospect) lawyer for advice. He ended up turning the couple of domains he owned, perhaps out of fear of being prosecuted, perhaps out of fear of seeing his name tied to a smear campaign. Whichever it is, I honestly don't care. The smear campaign stopped on the spot, retrieved the domains, and I never heard about him again.

  36. links or it didn't happen! by dlmarti · · Score: 1

    links or it didn't happen!

  37. Libel tourism and the SPEECH Act by tepples · · Score: 1

    Many countries like England have extremely strong libel laws.

    Are you recommending libel tourism?

    She should hire an english attorney and have him prosecuted in the UK.

    Defamation judgments outside the United States that violate the First Amendment protection of freedom of expression are unenforceable in the United States. This became explicit in the third quarter of 2010.

    1. Re:Libel tourism and the SPEECH Act by mrbester · · Score: 1

      Tell that to those who got delisted from amazon.com because of a libel judgement against them in UK brought by a (rich) nonresident.

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    2. Re:Libel tourism and the SPEECH Act by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

      But wasn't the original problem that the person pursuing her was outside the US?

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  38. Sue him in the UK by ivi · · Score: 1

    The UK is reputed to be the best venue to sue -from- (if you can afford the legal fees).

    Others may be able to share their success stories...

  39. Re:Ever heard of free speech by DragonWriter · · Score: 1

    If it's not true, then it's libel.

    Well, no, being untrue is necessary but not sufficient for it to be found to be libel.

  40. Re:Ever heard of free speech by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

    There's a gray area in between: what if the accusations are untrue, but you can't prove it?

    Note, IANAL, so I don't know if a civil suit for libel would work out well if the accusations are all hearsay (e.g., "I heard that she has sex with her dog!"), but if the allegations are vague enough and difficult or impossible to disprove ("she told me that she's a pedophile", leading to a he-said-she-said argument with her claiming she never said any such thing), she may be in a difficult spot.

    Any lawyers here with expertise in libel? Asking software and IT geeks seems like the worst place to find advice for this, this is definitely a question for a lawyer.

  41. I'd argue he should wait by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 5, Funny

    My suggestion is to hold off until you've been married to her for a year or so - that way, you can better determine whether her ex-husband's statements are indeed a smear campaign or are rooted in fact.

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    1. Re:I'd argue he should wait by Everything+Else+Was · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Your modders say "Funny". I say "Insightful".

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  42. Re:Does he believe what he's saying? by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

    Or, you could harass him in a similar manner: go to his family members and friends (and msot importantly, his employer) and tell them all what a giant asshole he is and how he's doing all these things to you.

  43. Re:four letters... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    claim trademark to her own name

  44. I have an idea by slashmydots · · Score: 1

    Those in glass houses shouldn't throw website URLs. Don't actually do the same to him, just let him know that you can and would and he'll take them down ASAP.

  45. Re:Ever heard of free speech by NeutronCowboy · · Score: 1

    I see your debating skills are on par with your logic skills.

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  46. Re:Reputation.com? by 19thNervousBreakdown · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Yep, SEO the shit out of the sites, in the most transparent, sure-to-get-a-site-delisted ways possible. Internet Judo, use his strength against him. Since they're on top, it's not like you can make it any worse, and it also means you don't have any direct contact with the guy--it's Google/Bing delisting him, not you. Anonymize the WHOIS information, and deny any knowledge if the guy contacts you. "What, you put up a site saying bad complaining about me? Weird, man, but whatever floats your boat. Good luck with that I guess."

    And of course if Google/Bing contact you, just say, "I've been contracted to make this the top result, if you try to delist this site you'll be hearing from my lawyers." They already know you can't do jack, and they'll enjoy tweaking "your" nose and you'll find the site delisted in short order.

    Other alternatives

    DDOS: Illegal, don't be an idiot. Also feeds the troll, you know better than that don't you?

    Register trademark & use ICANN: You're rolling the dice here, feeling lucky?

    Anything + lawyer: Probably best chance of success, once you sue successfully it just makes further suits easier if he's dumb enough to stick a fork in the toaster a second time. But keep in mind, these guys do not understand the Streisand effect, and what's more, many probably actively want it. Free publicity for them, and then you have to pay!

    Completely ignore it: Probably the best option. People get bored. He's doing this to get a rise out of someone who rejected him. Chances are good he'll escalate when he doesn't get the reaction he wants. If he goes big enough, you'll be able to catch his hand in the bear trap of the court system, otherwise just keep ignoring it. Escalation means you're winning. If he's quietly running the same site 3 years later, well, then you're dealing with a patient, smart, asshole, which is pretty much your worst nightmare. Good luck.

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  47. Re:Does he believe what he's saying? by RajivSLK · · Score: 1

    Yes. Also, the call his mother approach often works.

  48. Re:four letters... by TheDarAve · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hasn't stopped the RIAA from claiming copyright on songs they don't own or represent, to include public domain works.

  49. Try fmylife by thedarb · · Score: 1

    This really should have been posted on FML, not Slashdot.

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  50. Re:four letters... by Pubstar · · Score: 1

    If only I could find the link to the story on here where someone did that.

  51. Can't copyright names, trade mark the name instead by kawabago · · Score: 1

    Although if it's a common name it might not be trade marked either.

  52. Post an anti-smear page to spin it your way by Time_Ngler · · Score: 1

    I would assume that what is most worrying is that most people that google her wouldn't tell you that they did so. To at least defend against that, your fiancee should create a blog defending herself from the accusations, so at least her side would be expressed.

    At least it would garner sympathy for her, and potential employers/clients may feel pity for her more than anything and overlook the whole mess.

  53. Re:four letters... by dgatwood · · Score: 5, Informative

    That's only the first half of it. First, file a legal trademark on the name. Then file a UDRP complaint and take the domain.

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  54. Really? by cfalcon · · Score: 1

    "Hey, how best to censor someone saying something I disagree with?"

    Any trick that will ultimately work for you, will work for some religious group trying to shut down opposed discourse. I'm sorry your ex had such terrible choice in mates before you, but I don't think there's a way to silence him saying crazyass bullshit.

  55. Re:four letters... by PaulHammant · · Score: 1

    http://martinanavratilova.com/ was taken from a squatter via a trademark claim. That was a decade or more ago, and I can't find a link.

  56. This one is easy by smittyoneeach · · Score: 1

    Send the John Boehner to the ex-husband. No good can come of the encounter.

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  57. Score:6 Fricking Awesome by wezelboy · · Score: 1

    That is a brilliant solution.

  58. Slander by RedHackTea · · Score: 1

    Using the full name as a URL and defacing it is blatant slander. I bet you can take this to court and win pretty easily, but IANAL.

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    1. Re:Slander by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 1

      No, it's written. And merely _insulting_ someone is neither. The statements would have to be clearly false, and damaging to the author's reputation.

      Do note that getting the courts involved can help get the domains yanked or websites de-activated by most reputable registrars. The ex-husband might try to transfer the domains, but that can cost money as well.

  59. I don't know if you will ever read this .... by TechnoGrl · · Score: 1

    ...because personally I would have given up after reading half of the utterly useless comments here.

    This is what you need to do and it will work:
    Find a highly reputable P.R. firm that deals with SEO. I'm not talking about the kind of SEO "specialist" that you find on Craigslist - I'm talking about the kind that handles Fortune 500 businesses. The P.R. firm will begin creating sensible blogs in your name having something to do with an interest of yours or possibly a business. The will create Facebook pages, Google+ pages, Twitter tweets as well. The P.R. firm will also create articles about you and/or your business which will appear on a variety of small sites . The will link everything together through a variety of sites that they own. The Blogs and P.R. releases and everything else will change the page rank so that your good press will appear way above the bad foreign sites that concern you.

    All the above will probably cost you between 5 and 10K at the very least but it will solve the problem. You will have to decide if the expense is justified - you could well consider it a tax deductible expense if the P.R. company concentrates on a business of yours.

    A related note. - in the heyday of Slashdot what I suggested would have been one of the very first comments and the most highly rated. It speaks to where the readership has fallen to today that you have had to sift through dozens of useless comments talking about lawsuits, freedom of speech , trademarking your name (wtf!) and even a couple of misogynists raging about "teh wimmen" :(

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  60. Marry her - Change her name :) by this+great+guy · · Score: 1

    Marry her. She changes both her official last name, and her pen name. And bam! the guy has to re-buy new domains matching the new name, and has to re-do the smear campaign from scratch :) And preferably, before she changes her name, pre-emptively buy domains before the ex-husband does.

    1. Re:Marry her - Change her name :) by Nyder · · Score: 1

      Marry her. She changes both her official last name, and her pen name. And bam! the guy has to re-buy new domains matching the new name, and has to re-do the smear campaign from scratch :) And preferably, before she changes her name, pre-emptively buy domains before the ex-husband does.

      ya, he has a chance, she has proven she has bad taste in men.

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  61. Reputation management by BrowserCapsGuy · · Score: 1

    Google or Bing: internet reputation management. There are many legitimate companies that help people from all walks of life get their good names back via a variety of legitimate methods.

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  62. Set the ex up by ffflala · · Score: 1

    With a new woman. His obsession will fade, and the domains will expire.

  63. Dilute the name by Shag · · Score: 2

    Long ago and far away, a Google for my real name turned up about ten pages of results that were me, before getting around to anything that wasn't. Of course, those pages dealt with different bits of me, so there could still have been some confusion over whether they meant the technologist with my name, or the writer with my name, or the music journalist with my name, or the photographer with my name, or the foreign-affairs sort with my name - never mind that they were all the same person.

    In the last few years, Google has managed to find people with the same name who aren't actually me, so there's a brain surgeon, a rugby player, and a soccer player, as well as a bunch of youthful sorts half a world away. At the same time, I've been a little more careful about the "make this visible to search engines" boxes on sites. So now, Googling my name finds a variety of people, most of whom aren't me.

    I would suggest that the OP and his fiancée create five or ten online identities with the same name that her ex refers to, with details that don't match her real identity, but do match (or at least are ambiguous about matching) things her ex is saying. Give people reason to stop and doubt whether the person being badmouthed is that one, or some other one.

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    1. Re:Dilute the name by strikethree · · Score: 1

      I wish that I had mod points right now. This is the absolutely best advice so far.

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    2. Re:Dilute the name by Shag · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the compliment. I should note that this approach doesn't in any way mean to not do the other approaches. By all means, take reasonable steps to acquire domains that are being used in bad faith, and to take down any content that actually violates copyright or privacy or whatever. And look into whether laws about online harassment or "cyberstalking" might apply.

      And of course, if the ex responds to the dilution/obfuscation of the name by adding personal information to make it clearer exactly which person by that name he's referring to, harassment or "cyberstalking" are more likely to apply.

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  64. Re:Reputation.com? by ios+and+web+coder · · Score: 1

    Like These guys? (NSFW Link -not Pr0n or anything, but ED is usually on the "naughty" list at corporations).

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  65. Oh my... by fullback · · Score: 1

    Anyone else think the original post was written by "the writer," who is searching for some help with a story?

    It reads like it was written by a woman and there is that troubling character development -- a "professional" writer, "everyone who knows her loves her" stuff.

    If it's a real post, I think we all know that nothing says "I love you" more than having the guy whacked. ;-)

    1. Re:Oh my... by ruir · · Score: 1

      Interesting, now that you mention it, it indeed seems written by a women. It is a variation of the nut ex who is searching for a way of getting back to the ex, and enlisting the help and ideas of that nerd site full of MEN...

  66. Cybersquatting by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 1

    Wow, amazing how much useless advice there is here. You might reconsider that "best community of geeks" through.

    Advice: google the term "cybersquatting."

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  67. Links, or it ain't true. by Nyder · · Score: 1

    Share the links to the sites. I wanna know what's up.

    The question I have is, what if the ex is telling the truth?

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  68. Don't bother... by KingRobot · · Score: 2

    ... unless the material can be proven libelous (and even then it will be a long, ugly battle). If people like Rick Santorum can't make the spreadingsantorum.com site go away, you're not likely going to make yours go away. Your best shot will be to get a positive site ranked higher using various SEO tactics.

  69. Re:four letters... by Pubstar · · Score: 1

    The one Im thinking of happened within the past month. It was posted either here or on TorrentFreak.

  70. It's trivial to really ruin someone. by Seumas · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Angry at an ex? Angry at an employer? Angry at your neighbor? Pissed off that you hit on a guy and he wasn't interested and shot you down? You can easily ruin someone's life by just posting shit about them on a site called the Rip Off Report. Google curiously gives them incredibly high page ranking, but the site is nothing more than a scam. They NEVER REMOVE ANYTHING and they're proud of it. Even if you go to court. And you can be anonymous, while putting up real information (including name, etc) of your "target". It'll sit there forever. It'll get ranked high up on the first page of Google. They exploit shady SEO practices. And the only way they'll work with you is IF YOU PAY THEM for a "partnership service" that they advertise. Reportedly, it's around $5,000 -- give or take.

    You can google for all sorts of controversy regarding it. It has ruined a lot of people's lives -- and you're not even dealing with international issues or anything.

    I had someone defrauding users on my site, once. I banned them for it and next thing I knew, I had a really scummy "review/complaint/whatever" on this site. Absolutely no recourse and the other person is anonymous (though, obviously not -- since I recognized their insane babbling just like the hundreds of emails they sent me for a year after they were banned).

    It's really really shady shit and I don't think they're the only site that does it.

    1. Re:It's trivial to really ruin someone. by ruir · · Score: 1

      If you want to make publicity of your shady site, you will have to do better than that.

    2. Re:It's trivial to really ruin someone. by Seumas · · Score: 2

      Actually, it's run by scum-bag Ed Magedson (a right cunt). It's purportedly a "customer advocacy" site, but as people have experienced, you don't have to be a business or even be a person who does any business to be a victim of the scam. They've also caused a lot of discussion over their SEO behavior which somehow Google doesn't penalize the way they should (Yahoo! actually lowers the site's ranking for their scummy behavior).

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripoff_Report#Corporate_advocacy_program_and_extortion_claims

      It's stuff like this that makes me sometimes second guess my whole "total freedom on the internet" thing. It's one thing to deal with a "bully" or a total dickwad. It's another to deal with people who are seriously damaging you (or your business, I guess) and have no recourse, because of "total freedom on the internet". I don't know what the right middle ground for that is. :/

      News report: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmhGLYHBbj8

  71. Cheap, efficient, "natural justice" by TapeCutter · · Score: 2

    I tend to agree with the AC, since the second amendment appears to protect the "right to harass" as well as the "right to offend", the law is not interested. So you either suck it up, or sort it out yourself with the less civilized eye for an eye protocol. No need for guns or friends in the intelligence community (since you know ehere he lives). Just tell your story at the local bar, someone will know where to hire a "wrecking crew" to redecorate his home office whilst giving him a lecture on how quickly life turns to shit when people use "free speech" as an excuse for their bad behavior. $500 tops with no hospital grade violence, slime ball will be back in his box before you can finish your beer.

    Thing is, you no longer have the option of cheap, efficient, "natural justice". By posting the story on Slashdot you have already committed yourself to fighting him indirectly, and worse still, on his home ground.

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  72. Re:four letters... by torsmo · · Score: 3, Funny

    I can't find a link.

    Good for you, man. It would've probably cost you 300 Euros.

  73. Run with the new brand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Sounds like he's going to an awful lot of effort, just run with the new brand he's helping to create and get your wife to become whatever the smear campaign says she is. Then write her into the novels as a character.

    profit!!!

  74. Press Release by neoshroom · · Score: 1

    SEO is actually a great idea.

    I work with writers on press releases as part of my job and I can tell you that if you publish a press release with your name appearing it in many times, there is a good chance that you could push his website off the front page of Google or at least far down the list. Part of the reason for this is when you seed a press release it goes out to multiple sources who are in good standing with Google, and so these links tend to propagate toward the top of the list for low-volume terms. Most people's names fall into this category and the name we are talking about here certainly does or this guys website would have never even appeared on the list. If your name was Michael Jordan, for example, you would never have this problem.

    So my recommendation is to get a press release out. If you already have a business or other important news item that it may be valuable to communicate about on the Internet, you may be able to kill two birds with one stone here. You could earn a little karma on the Internet for your business or writing product while at the same time drowning out the message you don't want to see when your name is googled.

    As a professional writer you may even have a fair grasp on how to proceed in this direction on your own once suggested, but if you need help with it, as I said I do it as part of my job, so you could check out elephantwriters.com if more assistance is needed.

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  75. Write a book by PacRim+Jim · · Score: 1

    A true writer would be writing a book about the experience, rather than embarking on a quixotic quest to silence her deranged ex.

  76. Relist elsewhere by tepples · · Score: 1

    Amazon is a private-sector business. Delisting from Amazon doesn't bar one from relisting elsewhere.

  77. Re:Reputation.com? by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

    The Mafia (the Sicilian one, not the "MAFIAA") also provides a "clean-up" service that might be useful here....

    Any of them would be successful. Depends on the country. In some countries you can also make the system work against your target - like filing information to the local variant of the IRS stating that mr Soandso has been paid a salary of X dollars, to be taxed in his home country. That can cause him to be responsible to pay additional tax - or fight it, but the tax authorities are by default right until proven wrong.

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  78. Groklaw by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    No disrespect meant to any denizen of slashdot, but the definitive place to go to ask about this sort of thing is Groklaw.

    But please be prepared for the fact that the first answer you will get will be: "Hire a lawyer..." Getting past that, you'll find a lot of useful advice from knowledgeable people.

  79. Hire a man with a bat by terjeber · · Score: 2

    They are cheap in most places defined as "abroad".

  80. MAKE PEACE by Novogrudok · · Score: 1

    not war ;) I see that 99% of advice here is to fight hate with hate. Potentially involving 'lawyers', which is a name for a bunch of educated scumbags.

    Really, it is more productive to actually talk to the guy who maintains the websites and ask him what he wants. Why does he do it? Does *he* feel that he is the wronged party? Maybe he wants recognition for all the work he did putting the original websites, for example. Before, he had the girl. Now some sleaze came and took his girl away. Would you be mad?

  81. Reality bites by war4peace · · Score: 1

    Literally, reality bites. Where does the ex-husband live and how much are you willing to pay? There's always a bunch of burly men ready to knock at, um, knock his door down and "convince" him to give away all those websites or turn them off.

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    1. Re:Reality bites by v1 · · Score: 1

      I suppose if the ex lives in a backwater country where he can get away with obvious and ongoing intentional slander, the "rent-a-thug" thing is probably an option.

      Problem is, she's dealing with an asshat with an agenda. And those can be persistent. He's obviously willing to invest time and resources into his smear hobby, and this may simply validate his effort. "I must be really pissing her off if she's going to these lengths to try to stop me, lets see what she does if I do THIS...." That may simply encourage him, and cause him to change tactics at the same time to try to avoid her efforts and get her more upset. "paybacks" is a reward unto itself.

      It could also give him actual real dirt to put up on his fake web sites. Short video clips from security cameras, doctored or real photos of bruises, that may end up looking a lot worse than the content he already has posted up, and could boost his page rankings considerably. So then it comes down to who's willing to go farther before blinking. And this guy must not have much of an alternate life if this is his hobby, so that makes it a very risky game to join him on and start escalating.

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    2. Re:Reality bites by war4peace · · Score: 1

      Heh heh, you're seeing this from an American perspective.

      Trust me, you don't "rent-a-thug" who will bruise someone's cheek. The thugs you rent mean serious business. For a couple grands, they will act professionally.
      1. They will contact him politely through a representative, on the street, while he goes about his business (metro station, bus station, hypermarket). The representative will give him a verbal "cease-and-desist" letter then walk away. No threats, nothing.
      2. A week or month goes by, his car will probably suffer badly. Set on fire or injured in some way.
      3. Next up, pets. Does he have any? Well, not anymore. Poison is cheap. Cars are fast.
      4. If he's still resisting (and I assume he won't go THAT far but who knows), then personal injury is now upcoming. We're talking about something a bit more hurtful than a bruised cheek. Say, broken legs. Those back alleys are dangerous, man... An alternative to that is a few very quick stabbings, no more than half an inch deep, takes one second and I've seen people able to accomplish that while going past you at walking pace without even twitching. Very impressive. these usually generate plenty of pain, bleeding and don't affect any organs, just painful and slow to heal flesh wounds.

      These steps can be intertwined with quick calls from stolen cheap phones telling him "remember the supermarket message!", which he can freely record, who cares.

      Shady problems can sometimes only be resolved by using shady solutions.

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    3. Re:Reality bites by war4peace · · Score: 1

      I don't know, I haven't asked them. Can you tell me?

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  82. Take option 3. by The_Revelation · · Score: 1

    As I see it, there are only three options:

    1. Invoke DMCA against him if he's using any images without permission

    2. Start your own counter-smear campaign by setting up your own URL's in his name, and listing that shit at google.

    3. Take off, Nuke the site from orbit.

    ... to be sure.

  83. Seems a bit exaggerated by tensigh · · Score: 1

    Think about it - if my name is Joe Smith, why would I create a website www.joesmith.com and then slander myself in my own name? Wouldn't a potential client see enough ripping of myself on www.joesmith.com, .net, .org, and see the connection? There may be one or two people out there that would fall for it, but most people are tech savvy enough to see through it. It sounds like they've been through the ringer with this ex-husband, but it seems like it wouldn't have that big of an effect, particularly once the woman's actual work was seen for what it truly is. My guess is only a few people would follow the lie. Just a guess.

  84. Re:This is An American Court Issue by axl917 · · Score: 1

    This is the kind of craxy one finds on Alex Jones or rense.con. Or the local Tea Party rally.

  85. Re:This is An American Court Issue by axl917 · · Score: 1

    CraZy, that is.

  86. Just send a polite note. by arthurpaliden · · Score: 1

    "If you are looking for ransom, I can tell you I don't have money. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills; skills I have acquired over a very long career."

  87. English libel law by Archeopteryx · · Score: 1

    Sue him in England.

    As we all know, UK libel law, even as "reformed" presumes his guilt once accused.

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  88. Re:Ever heard of free speech by seebs · · Score: 1

    Er, what?

    1. Non-defamatory claims aren't libel, whether or not they are true, so far as I know. Not all insulting or negative remarks are defamatory.
    2. I believe there's some exceptions for stuff having to do with public figures.
    3. You can firmly believe something, but not think a court will be convinced of it.

    Believing that something someone says about you is untrue is not by any means a rational basis for concluding that a court will consider it to be libel.

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  89. You are fighting 4 different battles by cheros · · Score: 1

    You are fighting on different fronts, and each area requires its own approach. I will, for the moment, just take the story at face value (in my experience there are usually untold stories that can greatly change or add to the picture).

    1 - Jurisdiction. I don't know where the husband lives and where the websites are, but there are few places in the world where you are left entirely without power - especially since your post seems to suggest the attacks are personal. Can't help you there without knowing more, sorry, but you're giving up too quickly.

    2 - Internet. If the domain names are hers, are named after her or relate in any other way to her there is scope for declaring them her property or a trademark violation, but you have to see that in the context of where they are hosted. Whatever you do, PLEASE do not go into discussion as a typical American and demand things because you will have lost the leverage without even having a discussion. First find out about local laws and see what leverage you have and respect that things work differently there. This is not exactly a short process and needs some sensitivity, but in my experience, a little bit of diplomacy and tact goes a long way (yes, I've done this before).

    3 - Reputation. There is zero you can do about the situation right now - you will need to disable the broadcast before you can start repairing, and the effort depends very much on the type of rantings online. I apologise I can't help you right now, but without specifics I cannot tell you what to do other than that removal of the offending sites together with publishing is really the fastest way to clean it up. You can try to override his ranking but that takes a lot of effort which may not pay off. There are also other ways, but they are not suitable for a public forum (involve Intellectual Property) and they are *expensive*.

    4 - The individual in question himself. Unless you deal with him this is like a disaster waiting to repeat itself and no, I'm not talking about "dealing with him" in the lead filled Hollywood fantasy, I'm talking about establishing some form of communication or even meeting up. People don't suddenly turn into deluded idiots and it may be worth establishing what is really going on (although I obviously don't know the whole story). The prime benefit of this last step is that it may remove the need for everything of the above - he is at the root of your problem. See if there is a way you can negotiate a truce or have a 3rd party help you with that - especially tech people tend to forget that taking care of the human factor can be far more effective than plastering over the key problem with technology.

    All in all, good luck.

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  90. Re:Marry Her, Problem solved by cheros · · Score: 1

    The problem is that her reputation has been established with her current name - reputation doesn't rename very well. This is used in reverse by companies that have really screwed up their reputation: they go through a "rebranding" exercise or merge with another company to make sure all the horror stories don't immediately come up when you research them, it takes digging to connect the dots.

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  91. Reputation Management by Vanessagirl · · Score: 1

    Unfortunately this happens quite often. There is a specific type of tactics used to bring down these sites or knock them off the top of SERPs, it is called "Reputation Management". Depending on the competition and other factors it can be a little pricey, so you will have to outweigh the benefits against the cost. Feel free to contact me for a reference.

  92. companies exist for this stuff by stoatwblr · · Score: 1

    Not that I agree with the vast majority of what they're used for, but reputation.com is one the outfits that springs to mind. Definietely go on the trademarking of one's own name then yank the domain on a uDRP complaint.

  93. Re:four letters... by obscuro · · Score: 1

    Howard Hughes used that trick for years. Eventually it was invalidated but only in a California court. This is the best idea here because it could give the OP's wife cause to seize the domains.

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  94. Content by KevReedUK · · Score: 1

    Looking at it from a different angle (and I should state clearly up-front here that IANAL) the OP appears to be saying that this person is misrepresenting the content of the sites as being by her, not about her.

    Under such circumstances, libel and slander are clearly irrelevant, but how about fraud?

    Obviously this is an assumption, based on my reading of the OP. Without a link, I can't tell if the ex is defaming, or impersonating the submitters fiancee.

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