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Microsoft Will Have To Rename SkyDrive

SmartAboutThings writes "A month ago, Microsoft was involved in a legal battle in the United Kingdom, when the court found that there was a conflict between Microsoft's SkyDrive and a trademark owned by the British Sky Broadcasting Group (BSkyB). Back then, the UK court ruled that Microsoft was infringing the BSkyB's trademark. And now we have confirmation that Microsoft will be forced to change the SkyDrive brand name. This is quite a big branding issue for Microsoft. What are they going to call it? DriveSky? And chances are that the name change will be worldwide and not only in the United Kingdom."

274 comments

  1. FlyDrive would be a better name by jkrise · · Score: 3, Interesting

    or just F-Drive; C and D are your disk drives; E is the USB drive; so F-Drive is the Cloud storage drive letter.

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    1. Re:FlyDrive would be a better name by isama · · Score: 2

      /media/f?

    2. Re:FlyDrive would be a better name by SQLGuru · · Score: 1

      A lot of companies map the H: drive to the user's home folder. HDrive.

    3. Re:FlyDrive would be a better name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Sorry, but on my machine, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, Q, R, S, Y, and Z, are already in use.

      Instead, they should make it A:\ -- and when it goes down for some reason, the error message can be:

      Not ready reading drive A
      Abort, Retry, Fail?

    4. Re:FlyDrive would be a better name by BLToday · · Score: 5, Funny

      How about Drive Eh? For our Canadian friends.

      So it would be:
      Not ready reading drive Eh
      Abort, Retry, Fail?

    5. Re:FlyDrive would be a better name by armanox · · Score: 1

      Shouldn't it be:

      General Failure reading drive A
      Abort, Retry, Fail?

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    6. Re:FlyDrive would be a better name by lgw · · Score: 1

      Sorry, but on my machine, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, Q, R, S, Y, and Z, are already in use.

      Instead, they should make it A:\ -- and when it goes down for some reason, the error message can be:

      Not ready reading drive A
      Abort, Retry, Fail?

      That is quite awesome. I'd use it just for that!

      Given how frequently Microsoft web products have been rebranded so far (rebranding everything to "Live" and then moving away from that), I'm not sure how much this rename will really matter.

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    7. Re:FlyDrive would be a better name by plopez · · Score: 3, Funny

      Then it conflict with my floppy drive... :)

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    8. Re: FlyDrive would be a better name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, you are thick, eh?

    9. Re:FlyDrive would be a better name by heneon · · Score: 1

      Who is General Failure and why is he reading my hard drive?

    10. Re:FlyDrive would be a better name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They should throw a few dollars at Aol to by the XDrive name off them. They shut it down years ago, so it's not doing anything.

    11. Re:FlyDrive would be a better name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Latency is probably about the same ;)

    12. Re:FlyDrive would be a better name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      If you installed Windows XP on a computer with a build-in (USB) all-in-one card-reader, the Windows drive will default to H instead of C. (tip: unplug the card-reader before installing Windows XP.)
      It's amazing how much software misbehaves when the C drive is an empty card-reader slot. For example exported Autocad profiles are hard-coded to drive letters, so you can't migrate your Autocad settings to/from computers that don't have the /windows/ directory on C.

    13. Re:FlyDrive would be a better name by ron_ivi · · Score: 1

      how frequently Microsoft web products have been rebranded so far

      Bing Drive?
      Passport Drive?
      MSN DRive?
      Vista Drive?
      ME Drive?


      (personally I think their strongest brand is XBox; so "XBox Drive" would be their best bet if they actually want it to succeed)

    14. Re:FlyDrive would be a better name by smittyoneeach · · Score: 1

      Or, Drive ß for the Germans.

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    15. Re:FlyDrive would be a better name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Who is General Failure and why is he reading my hard drive?

      He is the commanding office of both Major Disaster and Colonel Panic. He heads up the Military Intelligence division. He is reading your hard drive to see if there are any Private Parts on it. If there are, he may have to dole out some Corporal Punishment - especially if he finds any Seamen.

    16. Re:FlyDrive would be a better name by lgw · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I don't think "Xdrive" would end up with fewer trademark lawsuits.

      It was "Windows Live Folders" originally.

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    17. Re:FlyDrive would be a better name by intermodal · · Score: 1

      That would conflict with my mapped network drives. I mapped those at A: and B: because I felt they'd conflict the least with anything else I might encounter, since first, my only personal Windows machines are virtual, and second, because I own only one floppy drive and zero computers that I actually use which could conceivably ask for one for even a BIOS update. And if I find one and somehow need to, I'll just use the floppy drive on that.

      I think my logic is not that far off from yours in selecting A:

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    18. Re:FlyDrive would be a better name by unixisc · · Score: 1

      Why not rename it 'Live Drive'?

    19. Re:FlyDrive would be a better name by HouseOfMisterE · · Score: 2

      If you installed Windows XP on a computer with a build-in (USB) all-in-one card-reader, the Windows drive will default to H instead of C. (tip: unplug the card-reader before installing Windows XP.)
      It's amazing how much software misbehaves when the C drive is an empty card-reader slot. For example exported Autocad profiles are hard-coded to drive letters, so you can't migrate your Autocad settings to/from computers that don't have the /windows/ directory on C.

      You could actually work around the problem if Windows XP was trying to install to a drive letter other than "C". During install you would create the partition (it would be drive letter whatever), immediately delete the partition, and then recreate it. It would recreate as drive "C".

    20. Re:FlyDrive would be a better name by Nyder · · Score: 1

      or just F-Drive; C and D are your disk drives; E is the USB drive; so F-Drive is the Cloud storage drive letter.

      I don't use a USB drive, what is this, the 90's?

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    21. Re:FlyDrive would be a better name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well In the UK they should apply the Trades desacription act to it and Make them Rename it to The NSA temporary Holding cloud drive

    22. Re:FlyDrive would be a better name by BenjiTheGreat98 · · Score: 1

      F-Drive? What about f-disk? Oh wait...

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    23. Re:FlyDrive would be a better name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A lot of companies map the H: drive to the user's home folder. HDrive.

      Then this is the home folder online, so HoDrive. What could go wrong?

    24. Re:FlyDrive would be a better name by marcomarrero · · Score: 1

      It should be "SkyOne", although I wonder if I can copy pre-owned files.

    25. Re:FlyDrive would be a better name by Angeret · · Score: 1

      That'd be fun if they called it that - the prime BskyB channel name - and straight back to court. Hell, they could do that just for shits & giggles and I'd be there with my deckchair and popcorn :)

    26. Re:FlyDrive would be a better name by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 1

      Damn, and "FailDrive.com" is already taken.

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    27. Re:FlyDrive would be a better name by lennier · · Score: 1

      Shouldn't it be:

      General Failure reading drive A

      Nah, it's General Alexander these days.

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    28. Re:FlyDrive would be a better name by davester666 · · Score: 1

      Great. 0.05% of the world population would get the joke. Everybody else would go "huh" in their native language.

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    29. Re:FlyDrive would be a better name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about NsaShare ?

  2. Good to see by trifish · · Score: 0, Troll

    The arrogance of a big player is punished when deserved. They certainly did have enough money to examine markets as big the UK for potential infringement of a new brand they wanted to introduce.

    1. Re:Good to see by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      And probably concluded that either they didn't infringe, or that they could steamroll anyone else.

      Or, they only did the search in the US and just assumed they'd be fine.

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    2. Re:Good to see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you support Rupert Murdoch over Microsoft, I'm not so sure, I think MS should railroad this and drag it out in court if necessary.

    3. Re:Good to see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The arrogance of a big player is punished when deserved.

      Because Sky Broadcasting is such a small timer...

      No arrogance here, just the assumption that people could tell the difference between a media conglomerate with an overreaching opinion of its' self worth and some cloud service.

    4. Re:Good to see by Hardhead_7 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yes, obviously, one company should own a trademark on any product containing the work "Sky" in it.

    5. Re:Good to see by Dexter+Herbivore · · Score: 4, Informative

      Murdoch vs Microsoft, IMHO Murdoch is worse. At least Microsoft isn't actively trying to subvert political processes through media control.

    6. Re:Good to see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed.

      Some people have a heart warming passion for auto bashing MS where there is little or no merit for doing so, and making themselves look complete douchbag for doing so.

    7. Re:Good to see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Considering Sky is controlled by Rupert Murdoch, it's not really a David and Goliath scenario.

    8. Re:Good to see by Rockoon · · Score: 2

      'cept in this case it seems that its simply the word 'Sky' that is supposedly trademarked. Sky Broadcasting does not offer any similar services in any markets, hence they are claiming the word itself. The closest thing they are associated with is that Sky Broadcasting owns a subsidiary company that has a wifi hotspot service. That companies name is The Cloud.

      What the summary doesnt make clear is that Microsoft and BSkyB reached a secret settlement on the matter.

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    9. Re:Good to see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The arrogance of a big player is punished when deserved. They certainly did have enough money to examine markets as big the UK for potential infringement of a new brand they wanted to introduce.

      No, they probably just didn't think that an online data storage solution would ever reasonably be confused with a satellite television provider.

    10. Re:Good to see by CastrTroy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Same thing happened with GMail in Germany, and with the iPhone in Brazil. With each country having their own system for registering trademarks, it becomes problematic to come up with a name that doesn't infringe on anybody else's trademark. There really should be a single, global registry for all trademarks, because, with the internet, every business is a global business.

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    11. Re:Good to see by petermgreen · · Score: 1

      SKY is also a broadband ISP nowadays.

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    12. Re:Good to see by rudy_wayne · · Score: 1

      And probably concluded that either they didn't infringe, or that they could steamroll anyone else.

      Or, they only did the search in the US and just assumed they'd be fine.

      This seems to be a recurring problem with Microsoft.
      They got into trademark trouble over the name Metro
      Now trademark trouble over the name SkyDrive.
      There are many other examples where they are very unfocused.

    13. Re:Good to see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      At least Microsoft isn't actively trying to subvert political processes through media control.

      It is funny that this was one of their stated reasons for exiting from the MSNBC partnership.

    14. Re:Good to see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whenever I read statements like this grossly exaggerating the power of media barons I imagine some sofa pundit who waves his fist at Murdoch while flipping the channel to watch The Simpsons.

    15. Re:Good to see by gbjbaanb · · Score: 0

      just the assumption that people could tell the difference between a media conglomerate with an overreaching opinion of its' self worth and some other conglomerate with an overreaching opinion of its' self worth .

      there, FTFY.

    16. Re:Good to see by DutchUncle · · Score: 2

      Just like one company claiming a trademark on any product starting with lower-case "i'.

    17. Re:Good to see by plopez · · Score: 0

      It's sort of like Hitler vs. Stalin.

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    18. Re:Good to see by gbjbaanb · · Score: 1

      you know, that Microsoft needs is a marketing department that doesn't just say "its called .net, lets put the word .net on everything, Office.net, Visual Studio.net, SQLServer.net"... then, when showed that was such a mess they said "the new API is called WinRT, I know lets call the operating systems Windows RT too, no-one will be confused at that!", followed shortly by "can we get Bill back to do another advert where he wiggles his ass while holding a big sausage?"

      Maybe they should stop getting drunk all the time and do some fricking professional marketing-type work.

    19. Re:Good to see by Dishevel · · Score: 1

      I fucking hate Microsoft. That said. "SkyDrive" does not, in any sane persons thought processes infringe upon "BSkyB". British courts are insane.

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    20. Re:Good to see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you're supporting big media over big software and you're also saying that this kind of legal dickering doesn't bother you....

      I hope you remember that you're throwing out the baby with the bathwater the next time this happens to some organization that you're a fan of. And it will happen.

      In the meantime I'll remember that you're a short sighted fanboi who just wants to bang a corporate or anti corporate, as the case may be, drum. People like you don't care about logic... you have an agenda and damn the rules if they stand in the way of furthering that agenda.

    21. Re:Good to see by LordThyGod · · Score: 1

      I fucking hate Microsoft. That said. "SkyDrive" does not, in any sane persons thought processes infringe upon "BSkyB". British courts are insane.

      Nah, MS just shit on too many people, and few of them turned out to be UK judges.

    22. Re:Good to see by aix+tom · · Score: 1

      On the "Metro" thing the first thing that came to mind right now was the NetApp MetroCluster we just installed at work.
      Now I find there is an IBM storage technology called MetroCluster and a NetApp storage technology called MetroCluster

      I wonder how that will pan out.

    23. Re:Good to see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you want unified international IP laws?

      Bad idea

    24. Re: Good to see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The N series is a rebranded NetApp.

    25. Re:Good to see by chuckinator · · Score: 1

      After seeing all the great success of the UN organizations, I can guarantee you that it would be worse if this happened on a global scale instead of a per-country basis. The UN FAO is busy trying to convince people that bugs are a viable and realistic solution to curing global hunger. Do you really want to see what they recommend to deal with something less critical to sustaining human life?

    26. Re:Good to see by SeaFox · · Score: 1

      Nope, can't do that.

      It would just make it more obvious there's no reason to try and institute region-restricted product availability (like region-lock DVDs and Blu-rays) because with FedEx global 24-hour shipping there's literally no place your product is inaccessible from.

      Need to keep up appearances the world is still neatly carved up into sociopolitical zones in business.

    27. Re:Good to see by StripedCow · · Score: 1

      There really should be a single, global registry for all trademarks, because, with the internet, every business is a global business.

      In fact, we could use "whois" for all our trademark needs.

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    28. Re:Good to see by Dexter+Herbivore · · Score: 2

      "Grossly exaggerating" the power of "media barons", think about that for a second. Think about what you just wrote.

    29. Re:Good to see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here's an idea: If you want your company name or product to be unique absolutely everywhere then don't use a common 3 letter word that is the first thing people see when they look around trying to think of a name for their product (at least AutoDesk used the Auto prefix). It is akin to trademarking the article of speech (e.g. "The" or "A") in your product or company name.

    30. Re:Good to see by Dogtanian · · Score: 3
      Microsoft's marketing is a clusterf*** in general. As I posted on another site a year back when they ditched the Windows Live name:-

      This is the same company changed the name of its "passport" service a ludicrous amount of times:-

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_account

      "Microsoft Account (previously Microsoft Wallet, Microsoft Passport, .NET Passport, Microsoft Passport Network, and most recently Windows Live ID)"

      I'd have said that MS's stupidly confusing naming is marketing-over-clarity, but *it's not even good marketing!!* I bet the man on the street doesn't have a clue what MS's constantly-changing brands-of-the-week are supposed to mean to him anyway, beyond being a confusing and counter-productive mish-mash of pseudo-terminology.

      The quintessential ironic example of how MS just don't get it was their (then-)latest media-player compatibility scheme called "Plays for Sure" which obviously implied Apple-style "no brainer just works" straightforwardness. They proceeded to totally undermine this by renaming it to tie in with "Certified for Windows Vista" (which also encompassed other schemes) and launched a separate, incompatible DRM/compatibility scheme for their now-defunct Zune range. Does anyone know (or care) what MS's attention-deficit clusterf*** of overlapping brands are supposed to mean?!

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    31. Re:Good to see by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1, Insightful

      > There really should be a single, global registry for all trademarks, because, with the internet, every business is a global business.

      That fact that a corporation can hijack language and have an artificial monopoly on a word is bullshit to begin with.

    32. Re:Good to see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      MS just shit on too many people

      And that does not change that British courts are insane. Justice is not very just if it only applies to some people and not to others (disclosure: my judiciary is insane, too!). Would it be okay to only enforce laws against your political party? This is why the cornerstone of western jurisprudence is a "blind judiciary".

    33. Re:Good to see by Tarlus · · Score: 1

      So they may claim, but alas for them, they do not actually own that trademark.

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    34. Re:Good to see by istartedi · · Score: 2

      That fact that a corporation can hijack language and have an artificial monopoly on a word is bullshit to begin with.

      No it isn't. Trade mark is reputation. Without it, you could buy something labeled Coca Cola and get municipal tap water.

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    35. Re:Good to see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Media was a tool used by Stalin and Hitler to social engineer people.

      Maybe he should have used a more realistic comparison instead of Hitler and Stalin. Maybe Megacroclodon vs Stalin is more appropriate.

    36. Re:Good to see by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      I wonder if you are being serious or don't realize the irony of your statement.

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    37. Re:Good to see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      ...or a trademark on the word "window"?

    38. Re:Good to see by icebike · · Score: 1

      Now trademark trouble over the name SkyDrive.

      But on the other hand, for a British Judge to rule that any use of the word Sky with preceding or trailing letters in any combination somehow violates a someone else's brand name is a bit of a stretch. It seem more based on the fact it was an American company they could pick on easily. I'm pretty sure the SkyTrain brand name is still held by someone, even if they are no longer in business.

      There were plans afoot to integrate skydrive more tightly with Windows 8.x anyway so it may become a moot point,

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    39. Re:Good to see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      whoa...that escalated quickly

    40. Re:Good to see by cusco · · Score: 1

      Um, that's assuming that there is "no place" outside capital cities in most of the world's countries. Good luck getting FedEx to deliver a DVD to my brother-in-law's house in Arequipa, Peru. Never mind that it's the second-largest city in the country, as far as FedEx is concerned anything outside of a ten or twelve block radius of the main post office doesn't exist. They don't think that the town of Puno, a provincial capital where we have a house, exists at all. Not that I disagree with your basic premise, just that I think FedEx exaggerates their service a wee bit.

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    41. Re:Good to see by Sir_Sri · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's not on BSkyB,

      BSkyB is a shortform for British Sky Broadcasting Group PLC.

      They use "Sky" in branding for all sorts of stuff, notably Sky Broadband and Sky Subscriber Services (which is their TV offering).

      In that context, an internet cloud service calling itself Sky-something sounds like it's part of the Sky services, which it of course isn't. And Microsoft has no real claim on the 'Sky' brand, so they're SOL.

    42. Re:Good to see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um, Windows? Office? Word? Bob? (Share|Power)Point?

    43. Re:Good to see by Valdrax · · Score: 1

      How much power did feudal barons have and over how much territory or how many people?
      Under some measures, "media baron" may be insulting the reach of such figures.

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    44. Re:Good to see by Bill,+Shooter+of+Bul · · Score: 1

      That's Genius! SkyDrive will now be known as WinRT. Now that's some unified branding.

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    45. Re:Good to see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Microsoft vs Murdoch empire, I just don't know which hero to cheer for.

    46. Re:Good to see by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

      Someone needs to mod this up!

      There are two things Microsoft doesn't have a fucking clue understanding:

        * Marketing - as you succinctly point out
        * UI -- do you read a book in UPPERCASE? So why are ALL the menu items NOW IN UPPERCASE?!?!

      Actually I would say the epitome of Microsoft Marketing was them producing the internal what not to do "Microsoft Re-Designs the iPod Package" which satires their packaging to a "T".

      * Microsoft Re-Designs the iPod Package
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUXnJraKM3k

      * Microsoft confirming they orginally made the parody
        http://www.ipodobserver.com/ipo/article/Microsoft_Confirms_it_Originated_iPod_Box_Parody_Video/
       

    47. Re:Good to see by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 0

      > that Microsoft needs is a marketing department that doesn't just say "its called .net, lets put the word .net on everything, Office.net, Visual Studio.net, SQLServer.net"
      > Maybe they should stop getting drunk all the time and do some fricking professional marketing-type work.

      /sarcasm But people can't Google for ".NET" -- if we changed it to a unique unambiguous search term that means they might actually be able to find answers to why our shit doesn't work ! *ducks*

    48. Re:Good to see by __aasehi2499 · · Score: 1

      ^This.

    49. Re:Good to see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      YOU NO DISS VS NEW MENUS! HULK LIKE!

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    50. Re:Good to see by elmer+at+web-axis · · Score: 0

      Yes and we should all have a global government. Maybe instead of having global trademarks companies could start focusing on the needs of separate market and bring products that are customized for the needs of the people that want to use it. At least this way they would have a reason to charge different amounts.

    51. Re:Good to see by williamhb · · Score: 1

      Yes, obviously, one company should own a trademark on any product containing the work "Sky" in it.

      Trademarks are limited to particular goods and services, but for the Sky trademark this includes "computer aided transmission of messages and images", "home computing services", "computer programs", etc. As BSkyB are also a broadband ISP in the UK, it seems reasonable that they've registered the mark to include those goods and services.

      http://www.ipo.gov.uk/tmcase/Results/4/EU000126425

    52. Re: Good to see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      really? i mean fuckin really?
      i mean i'm a black and white, no shades of grey kinda guy, but you are way to serious.

      i was thinking tom vs. jerry.

    53. Re:Good to see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you really want to see what they recommend to deal with something less critical to sustaining human life?

      We here at the UN have examined the trademark problems you white-skinned pigdogs have been dealing with. After extensive debate, we have decided that trademarks should be handled like other foreign policies. Each nation will recognize the trademark claims of whichever claimant sends the largest bribe to the king or warlord. Furthermore, as head of the UN Council of Trademark Coordination, I can overrule the local decisions.

      Now, who's got a diamond encrusted yacht for me?

    54. Re:Good to see by Dishevel · · Score: 1

      No one. Just hope the battles goes on and damages them both.

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    55. Re:Good to see by Shirley+Marquez · · Score: 1

      No, the problem lies in the British courts. Giving one company total ownership of the word "sky" is stupid. SkyDrive is in a product category that BSkyB isn't in and that it has no plans to enter, and BSkyB is not a pervasive brand on the level of Coca-Cola. (Branding ANYTHING with the name Coca-Cola would be seen as infringing, and rightly so, but Coca-Cola is also not an ordinary English language word like Sky is.) An intelligent court would have seen the SkyDrive brand as non-infringing.

      The sad fact to me is that Microsoft isn't appealing this stupid decision. But they have probably decided that the EU courts will favor the local company over the big American bully, even when the American company is right on the facts. They should have also gone to the courts for Metro, but presumably didn't because the Metro store chain in Germany is a major seller of Microsoft products and Microsoft didn't want to antagonize them.

    56. Re:Good to see by MrGrey1 · · Score: 1

      Murdoch vs Microsoft, IMHO Murdoch is worse. At least Microsoft isn't actively subverting political processes through media control. FTFY

  3. They should call it "BitBucket" by msobkow · · Score: 4, Funny

    Data in, nothing out.

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    1. Re:They should call it "BitBucket" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    2. Re:They should call it "BitBucket" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So thx to the cloud, they were finally able to introduce /dev/null to windows. Awesome!

    3. Re:They should call it "BitBucket" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, I keep my source code in BitBucket.

    4. Re:They should call it "BitBucket" by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 1

      In college, I christened a friend's Jaz drive a "WORN drive", for "write once, read never". The name was well-earned and it stuck.

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    5. Re:They should call it "BitBucket" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Errr... Prior art?

  4. How about... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    MeTooDrive or Me2Drive. Since Microsoft only copies things that others do at this point, they should just grab the Me2 prefix to replace the G or i from all of Google's and Apple's products.

    1. Re:How about... by Desler · · Score: 5, Informative

      SkyDrive (formerly Windows Live Folders when it came out in August 2007) predates Google Drive by 5 years, Apples iCloud by 4 years and DropBox by a year. So how exactly is it a "me too" service?

    2. Re:How about... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      What has Apple done, recently, that others haven't? Actual unique ideas?

      Phone? Better and definitely more polished than previous models, but neither has really done anything new there... Rounded corners, pinch to zoom, bottom-of-screen-bounce? All previously done (but packaged oh-so-nicely).
      Tablets? Likewise... 4 corners, touch screen, battery, cpu... check
      Home screen? App Store? Music Store? Cloud?

      What are any of the "Big Names" doing that hasn't been done to death already? Wearable computers? Google Glass, watch-phones, Kinect?

      They are all moving forward, but what are they doing that isn't a "copy" of what's already there?

    3. Re:How about... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Easy, because it's owned by Microsoft and posted on Slashdot, Microsoft is automatically a piece of shit who just copies other people and writes terrible software.

      You would think because Slashdot as a community hates Microsoft so much that they just wouldn't post stuff about their products on the site and instead focus on technology that the community at large supports in order to give it publicity and notoriety.

      I guess circle jerking is a necessity as a community though, otherwise how would people reinforce their own ego?

    4. Re:How about... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Google Docs was around in 2006. Just because Google rebranded to Google Drive doesn't mean they weren't there first.

    5. Re:How about... by Desler · · Score: 1

      Nope. Google Docs was integrated into Google Drive as it used that as its new storage engine. It was not a rebranding.

    6. Re:How about... by Desler · · Score: 1

      To add further, they were integrated together in 2012 a year after Google Drive launched. If Google Drive were the rebranded Google Docs they would not have existed as separate products which they did for a year.

    7. Re:How about... by LordThyGod · · Score: 0

      SkyDrive (formerly Windows Live Folders when it came out in August 2007) predates Google Drive by 5 years, Apples iCloud by 4 years and DropBox by a year. So how exactly is it a "me too" service?

      Because it was a totally useless piece of shit that no one used (I generalize), or cared about. Ballmer himself probably has never even heard of it. Fact check ... Google Drive was a rebranding, btw.

    8. Re:How about... by hudsucker · · Score: 2, Informative

      SkyDrive (formerly Windows Live Folders when it came out in August 2007) predates Google Drive by 5 years, Apples iCloud by 4 years and DropBox by a year. So how exactly is it a "me too" service?

      Because Apple first introduced the iDisk in 2000.

      (iDisk was part of iTools, which became .Mac, then MobileMe, and finally iCloud. iDisk was dropped in iCloud, and the iCloud storage is not comparable in functionality.)

    9. Re:How about... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      XDrive launched in 1999. RIP. Fuck AoHell.

    10. Re:How about... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no it really just was a rebranding.

    11. Re:How about... by dintech · · Score: 1

      Windows ME 2?

    12. Re:How about... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      SkyDrive (formerly Windows Live Folders when it came out in August 2007) predates Google Drive by 5 years, Apples iCloud by 4 years and DropBox by a year. So how exactly is it a "me too" service?

      Because it was a totally useless piece of shit that no one used (I generalize), or cared about. Ballmer himself probably has never even heard of it. Fact check ... Google Drive was a rebranding, btw.

      Google Drive was definitely not a rebranding, it was Google's first launch of a general purpose cloud storage with features ala the already existing DropBox/SkyDrive/iCloud services (and though people struggle to place that tag on Google it was a major me-too launch adding little if anything new). They did integrate pre-existing Google Docs into it, which is different. http://mashable.com/2012/04/24/google-drive/

    13. Re:How about... by nine-times · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Also, much as I might like some Microsoft bashing, I think it's dumb to criticize a technology company for copying others. In science and technology, you're *supposed* to build off of other people's work. Otherwise, you're reinventing the wheel.

      So if you're going to criticize Microsoft for copying others, it only makes sense to me if they make a substandard copy that offers no advantages. Even if it's an equivalent copy to the best thing around, that's still doing a pretty good job.

    14. Re:How about... by cusco · · Score: 1

      I used SkyDrive to send files (mostly photos) to my wife's relatives pretty much since its inception, since they all had Hotmail accounts. I've even used it to move files around for work when they were too large to attach to emails. It's always seemed to work correctly, I've always been able to set permissions to limit access, I don't know what your problem was with it. I've never even had an outage as far as I remember.

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    15. Re:How about... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You all love to hack on MS about copying, but there isn't a single one of you tools that wouldn't jump at the chance to be part of them, copying or not. Some darn good copying to be such a huge company.

      I guess you would have to determine who start cloud storage first - everyone else is copying them, too.

    16. Re:How about... by fermion · · Score: 1
      iTool which included .mac debuted in January of 2000 at no charge to Macintosh users. Two years later it became subscription based.

      Not saying MS has not done many wonderful things. They have been, for instance, trying to build a viable phone since 1990. But for most things MS waits until others have developed a process to commodity status, then implements the inexpensive mass market option.

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    17. Re:How about... by pbeens · · Score: 1

      Actually, it goes back even further, to 2005 when it was called FolderShare. To feed the "me too" argument further though, it wasn't a Microsoft-created product -- they bought it from ByteTaxi Inc.

      What I loved about FolderShare is that sync'ing to the cloud was optional, so you could use it to sync between computers only.

    18. Re:How about... by Meski · · Score: 1

      But obviously does not predate BskyB's SkyDrive, so it is a me too service.

  5. My vote: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    InfiniDrive! Bringing together of infinite storage, combined with infinite reliability, storage life, and ease of use. You can thank me later.

  6. Easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When You Need To Conquer The Sky: SpaceDrive

    YOU'RE WELCOME MICROSOFT.

  7. riSKY by gl4ss · · Score: 1

    it's got s.k.y on it right there, tells the truth and sky-tv can't claim it.

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  8. like gmail in Germany by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I guess just like gmail in Germany, where google had to make sure to always call it googlemail instead of gmail, because someone else already had the rights.

    Captcha: sorrier

  9. best marketing name is .... by middlemen · · Score: 5, Funny

    NSADrive !!!!!

    1. Re:best marketing name is .... by NettiWelho · · Score: 1

      "We will add proper tags on your collection for you!".

    2. Re:best marketing name is .... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Remember the JizzDrive from GTA2? I think the time has cum.

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  10. What are they going to call it? by ZombieBraintrust · · Score: 3, Funny
    Anything without the word Sky in it. So not "DriveSky"

    Synonyms: blast, breath, breeze, draft, heavens, ozone, puff, sky, stratosphere, troposphere, ventilation, waft, whiff, wind, zephyr

    ZephyrDrive, PuffDrive, BreezeDrive

    1. Re:What are they going to call it? by sjames · · Score: 1

      Damned shame. I was looking forward to hearing about victims of a DriveSky.

    2. Re:What are they going to call it? by plopez · · Score: 1

      ZuneDrive

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    3. Re:What are they going to call it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WindDrive? WinDrive?

    4. Re:What are they going to call it? by camperdave · · Score: 1

      I'm sure some Russian corporation has Drivesky.

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    5. Re:What are they going to call it? by naoursla · · Score: 1

      BingDrive.

    6. Re:What are they going to call it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So... the word "Sky" is trademarked? (oops, just infringed)

  11. Lack of Due Dilligence, or Hubris? by Freshly+Exhumed · · Score: 2

    This happened before with the XBox name. It is difficult to believe that a company like Microsoft, bolstered by batteries of lawyers with copyright, patent, and trademark expertise, could have pulled such a boneheaded move. Were they playing legal chicken with the Brits, or did they really, truly screw up?

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    1. Re:Lack of Due Dilligence, or Hubris? by Waccoon · · Score: 1

      Given how badly they screwed up the actual XBox hardware? Less reliable and more overheating problems than most laptops.

    2. Re:Lack of Due Dilligence, or Hubris? by timeOday · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Because it is not cut and dried. You can't just search for "SkyDrive" and then be safe. "Sky" claims it owns anything that starts with "Sky" in the same way that Microsoft claimed "Windows," and Apple claimed the letter "i"! (though they lost in the end... uh, at least in Australia?)

    3. Re:Lack of Due Dilligence, or Hubris? by steelfood · · Score: 2

      European trademarks have always been a problem for U.S. companies, and vice versa. Except most European companies have the foresight to see if their product violates U.S. trademark before launching it there, and rebrand as necessary.

      U.S. companies instead just go ahead and ram their products through without even looking. Then they wonder why they're getting sued for trademark infringement.

      And on the same topic, Microsoft could name it Ding.

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    4. Re:Lack of Due Dilligence, or Hubris? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is difficult to believe that a company like Microsoft, bolstered by batteries of lawyers with copyright, patent, and trademark expertise, could have pulled such a boneheaded move

      I find it more difficult to believe that a company could trademark a common three letter word, across every single industry. Apple lost trademark infringement cases against companies prefixing products with an "i" and Microsoft is not allowed to enforce trademark on the word "Windows", even within their same industries (either of which are arguably more of an infringement than the word, "sky", especially when used by companies in different industries).

      I would like to know how old is the judge. I place bets that he thinks they are both "internet companies" because they both have websites and that he knows that the only clouds are up in the sky.

    5. Re:Lack of Due Dilligence, or Hubris? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The 360 perhaps. The original XBox was, however, a fine piece of delightfully hackable hardware.

    6. Re:Lack of Due Dilligence, or Hubris? by Cajun+Hell · · Score: 2

      What happened is that they were naive about the Brit's totally bullshit trademark law. Nobody, unless they're a lawyer or have done litigation with Brits in the past, would ever suspect that "SkyDrive" could possibly infringe the trademark of a company which does not sell any product or service called "SkyDrive." The Brits have an asinine law and their people need to kick their government's ass.

      That said, Microsoft does have lawyers, and almost certain has litigated with Brits in the past, so they should have been informed about that country's ridiculous third world banana republic laws and the fact that you can't just do business there. They should have known that any new name must be at least 14 transformative mutations away from any other name, or else it is considered "trademark infringement."

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    7. Re:Lack of Due Dilligence, or Hubris? by Sir_Sri · · Score: 1

      What about Sky Broadband or Sky Subscriber services? Kind sounds like a product they might offer. And they're both parts of BSkyB.

    8. Re:Lack of Due Dilligence, or Hubris? by Sir_Sri · · Score: 2

      across every single industry.

      Sky Broadband would tend to put them at least in the same basic industry as a cloud storage service.

    9. Re:Lack of Due Dilligence, or Hubris? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      or we could just say fuck you colonial rednecks fix your own dumb laws before saying any one elses are stupid. You laws arent universal despite what you think.

    10. Re:Lack of Due Dilligence, or Hubris? by Cajun+Hell · · Score: 1

      What about Sky Broadband or Sky Subscriber services? Kind sounds like a product they might offer.

      And if Sky did that, they should be crushed by a trademark claim from Microsoft. If I start selling Cajun Hell BBQ sauce and I am first to market, I shouldn't have to worry about some "Cajun Construction" business later also wanting to enter the BBQ sauce market, then taking my product name away from me.

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    11. Re:Lack of Due Dilligence, or Hubris? by Cajun+Hell · · Score: 1

      That's the spirit, Limey! But of course you're wrong. Everyone should be complaining about everyone's stupid bullshit braindead maliciously-intended anti-human laws, rather than everyone having to be silent out of fear of MAD. Nobody should ever fear charges of hypocrisy. Nothing you ever say about me not having boobies on my TV, will ever make your stupid shit trademark law not be stupid shit. Now let's all go kick our governments' asses. And if you wanna keep throwing those boobies in my face, that's fine with me.

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  12. Easy to fix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Fixed with one easy change of letter: SpyDrive.

    1. Re:Easy to fix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It might amuse readers in the US to learn that a recent complaint regarding Microsoft's "your privacy is our priority" advertisement was dismissed because the Advertising Standards Authority took it that "privacy" is not objective and thus the claim did not have to be substantiated.

    2. Re:Easy to fix by plopez · · Score: 1

      Or SkyDive. Bring a parachute.

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  13. ZuneSurfaceDB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The lawyers have already cleared that.

  14. Spydrive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Call it spydrive, since it will have an NSA database feed.

  15. how about by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Monkeyboy Drive!

    1. Re:how about by isama · · Score: 1

      DEVELOPERDRIVE!

  16. Re:Skynet anyone? by Pharoah_69 · · Score: 0

    How about SkywalkerDrive? You should know better, John Conner (unless Darth Vader counter sues).

  17. Names by Dancindan84 · · Score: 1

    CloudDrive
    CloudStore
    NetDrive
    NetStore
    WebDrive
    WebStore

    I just pulled those out of my ass in about 30 seconds and all of them appear to be taken already, but I'm sure someone in MS marketing can come up with something original, or they can license one they like. A new name won't be a huge problem, the bigger problem is any name recognition they had is gone.

    Also, DriveSky doesn't solve anything because it was the use of the word Sky in the name that caused the trademark problems.

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    1. Re:Names by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      Hmm...

      How about NoDrive? It expresses my sentiment -and- manages to sound neat and cloudy.

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    2. Re:Names by Dancindan84 · · Score: 1

      Huh... that actually does sound cool. Quick google search brings up a sourceforge project called NoDrives that allows you to hide drives using registry keys. Not sure if that would be a problem or not.

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  18. Confusion by Tailhook · · Score: 5, Funny

    How many Microsoft SkyDrive users will be confused by the rename of this product and switch to Dropbox?

    Both.

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    1. Re:Confusion by tgd · · Score: 0

      How many Microsoft SkyDrive users will be confused by the rename of this product and switch to Dropbox?

      Both.

      If they lose two out of the 250 million active users, I think they'll be okay.

      That said, I doubt very highly that they'd change the branding worldwide.

      Personally, I think I'm going to register "thecloudstorageformerlyknownasskydrive.co.uk" and sell it to them.

  19. I have a suggestion. by intermodal · · Score: 1

    how about DevNull? If they do a search into the name, I think they will find that there is nothing there.

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  20. MSCloud by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    done

  21. Re:Skynet anyone? by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1
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  22. Not an exact name but close by UnknowingFool · · Score: 2

    What is interesting is that BSkyB doesn't have a "SkyDrive" product but many products named "Sky" that are in the same product category.

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    1. Re:Not an exact name but close by Freshly+Exhumed · · Score: 1

      It depends on how closely the names are conceptually related within a fairly narrow field of use. For people in the UK, the "Sky" name is conceptually welded to the BSkyB entity in the field of consumer electronic services via network. No surprise MS got slapped.

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    2. Re:Not an exact name but close by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To put it in perspective, .886% of the world could have potentially associated the service with another company.

      http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Ratio+of+population+of+the+United+Kingdom+versus+the+world

    3. Re:Not an exact name but close by mrbester · · Score: 3, Funny

      No one in UK apart from a stupid judge and a bunch of opportunistic lawyers confuses Sky from BSkyB with SkyDrive from Microsoft. Perhaps it should change to easyDrive as no one would confuse a cloud service with a car hire company either.

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    4. Re:Not an exact name but close by hondo77 · · Score: 1

      Nobody expects consumer to confuse SkyDrive with BSkyB. Sky is arguing consumers will confuse SkyDrive with Sky's products like Sky TV, Sky Broadband, Sky Talk, Sky 3D, Sky Go, etc. and think that SkyDrive is made by BSkyB instead of Microsoft.

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    5. Re:Not an exact name but close by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      so Skynet would not be an option for microsoft either then? :-/

    6. Re:Not an exact name but close by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And a judge with juristiction over .886% of the world population ordered the name changed for .886% of the world population. That's how countries work. Which I thought ought to be pointed out to Americans, who believe that their overbearing batshit-insane 4.48% should have juristiction over the rest of the planet.

    7. Re:Not an exact name but close by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      False. I've personally encountered at least two people who have. The confusion arises because their ISP is "Sky", so to them the online service called "SkyDrive" is obviously something that their ISP provides.

    8. Re:Not an exact name but close by bruce_the_loon · · Score: 1

      So BSkyB is preemptively preventing their helldesk from being flooded with calls about SkyDrive? Sounds like a good business reason to sue.

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  23. They should call it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    RupertMurdochIsanArseDrive

  24. Call it by a traditional Microsoft name by BLToday · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Microsoft Cloud Drive Storage Home Edition
    Microsoft Cloud Drive Storage Premium Edition
    Microsoft Cloud Drive Storage Enterprise Edition

    1. Re:Call it by a traditional Microsoft name by game+kid · · Score: 1

      Nah. They'll have Microsoft Cloud Drive Storage Tablet Edition (also available for desktops...and also the only one you can use on desktops).

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    2. Re:Call it by a traditional Microsoft name by tgd · · Score: 1

      Microsoft Cloud Drive Storage Home Edition
      Microsoft Cloud Drive Storage Premium Edition
      Microsoft Cloud Drive Storage Enterprise Edition

      Live Mesh was the traditional name when they launched it six years ago.

    3. Re:Call it by a traditional Microsoft name by rwise2112 · · Score: 1

      Microsoft Cloud Drive Storage Home Edition Microsoft Cloud Drive Storage Premium Edition Microsoft Cloud Drive Storage Enterprise Edition

      Chair drive is better.

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    4. Re:Call it by a traditional Microsoft name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Skychair.

    5. Re:Call it by a traditional Microsoft name by Teckla · · Score: 1

      Microsoft Cloud Drive Storage Home Edition
      Microsoft Cloud Drive Storage Premium Edition
      Microsoft Cloud Drive Storage Enterprise Edition

      I think you forgot:

      Microsoft Cloud Drive Home Premium Edition
      Microsoft Cloud Drive Starter Edition
      Microsoft Cloud Drive Server Edition
      Microsoft Cloud Drive Data Center Edition
      Microsoft Cloud Drive Professional Edition
      Microsoft Cloud Drive Home Media Server Edition

      And let's not forget about the extra $50/year you have to pay for XDrive Gold Live if you want to be able to copy your Microsoft Cloud Drive files to your USB flash drive.

    6. Re:Call it by a traditional Microsoft name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Finally, a cloud drive service with an accurately descriptive name.

    7. Re:Call it by a traditional Microsoft name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right! And depending on that you could choose what level of data you want to share with NSA.

  25. mostly mist... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    VaporDrive

  26. No by tehlinux · · Score: 2

    >chances are that the name change will be worldwide and not only in the United Kingdom

    I doubt that very much.

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    1. Re:No by dingen · · Score: 1

      It has already been confirmed that indeed SkyDrive will be renamed worldwide.

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    2. Re: Re:No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >It has already been confirmed that indeed SkyDrive will be renamed worldwide.

      I doubt that very much.

    3. Re:No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It'll have to be renamed at least in Germany and Italy as well, at the very least. sky.it sky.de

    4. Re: Re:No by dingen · · Score: 2

      A UK court recently ruled that Microsoft's SkyDrive name infringed on a trademark owned by British Sky Broadcasting Group (BSkyB), and the software maker has agreed to change the name of its cloud-based service worldwide as a result. In a settlement issued on Wednesday, BSkyB notes that Microsoft will not appeal the court ruling and that the company will allow Microsoft to continue using the brand "for a reasonable period of time to allow for an orderly transition to a new brand."

      The agreement includes financial and other terms, but neither BSkyB or Microsoft will disclose the details as the agreement is confidential. A Microsoft spokesperson confirmed the name change in a statement to The Verge.

      Source: http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/31/4574878/microsoft-skydrive-name-change-bskyb

      So there you go.

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    5. Re: Re:No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "We're glad to have resolution of this naming dispute, and will continue to deliver the great service our hundreds of millions of customers expect, providing the best way to always have your files with you."

      Doesn't seem like a confirmation to me.

  27. Sky vs Windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Microsoft must have realized that arguing "Sky" is a generic word, so is "Windows". That means they'd be shooting themselves in the foot by arguing that Sky (and thus Windows) isn't trademark-able.

  28. AllURfilesRBlong2USdrive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or possibly AllURfilesRBlong2USdrive.net

  29. Any chance this time they'll do a Google search? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I guess Bing didn't find it.

  30. Why was my link removed? by SmartAboutThings · · Score: 0

    I might understand that the link to this http://wind8apps.com/microsoft-will-have-to-rename-skydrive-bskyb-wins-legal-battle/ was removed because it was not the first source, indeed. But I can not understand why you deleted it and put GeekWire instead :|

    1. Re:Why was my link removed? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is it too presumptuous of me to assume that Dice gets paid for links to sites they have agreements with? Doesn't seem all that farfetched for this stock.

  31. XKeyscore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I would suggest they use something fitting for the level of trust I have for them: XKeyscore

  32. SkypeDrive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    SkypeDrive - Since Sky already tried, but failed, to sue Skype for the same thing.

    1. Re:SkypeDrive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good point, just goes to prove how picky Murdoch is and think MS is the root of all evil, couldn't be further from the truth.

  33. Heavenly naming by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

    SkyDrive was way too fancy for them anyway. Based on coopting the windowing concept and calling it Windows, or Word (I forget what that does) something like...Cloud.

    Ya that's it. Hurry up and trademark Cloud, Microsoft.

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  34. 'Oh! Oh! I know! I know! by BlindRobin · · Score: 1

    Weesh... weesh... we should name it Bob! ', the intern suggested loudly with unbridled enthusiasm.

  35. not worldwide by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Remember the GMail trademark in Germany? No name change outside the trademark's country.

  36. WinDrive? by javajeff · · Score: 1

    WinDrive

  37. Skype by Keruo · · Score: 2

    What about Skype?
    It's old and established name for a product but it's run by Microsoft now, are they forced to rebrand it too?

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    1. Re:Skype by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Maybe rename SkyDrive SkypeDrive?

    2. Re:Skype by cusco · · Score: 1

      Murdoch/bSkyb already tried to sue Skype, and lost. I think that since Skype is now a MS property that SkypeDrive would probably be the safest choice.

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  38. You gotta be kidding me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Why do I see all of the anti-MS posts? Yeah, MS has been a bastard many times, but to be swatted because they dared to use the term "sky" for their product when some other company that doesn't make anything close to the same product also used "sky" in their names is asinine. I'm sure Sky has been used in product names and company names before bskyb. You're an idiot if you think this is just fine.

    1. Re:You gotta be kidding me by Nemyst · · Score: 1

      I wonder whether AMD's next up with their Radeon Sky brand.

    2. Re:You gotta be kidding me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why do I see all of the anti-MS posts? Yeah, MS has been a bastard many times, but to be swatted because they dared to use the term "sky" for their product when some other company that doesn't make anything close to the same product also used "sky" in their names is asinine. I'm sure Sky has been used in product names and company names before bskyb. You're an idiot if you think this is just fine.

      Yeah, it's not like Microsoft called its operating system Windows or some other common computer term, then sued people for using that term.

    3. Re:You gotta be kidding me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because Microsoft have been assholes throughout their entire history and are entirely deserving of a bit of schadenfreude.

      Turns out if you're an asshole people will have no sympathy for you when you're in the shit.

      I don't know enough about the case to say whether I have an opinion on it, but I don't need to because I don't care. Microsoft can go fuck themselves.

    4. Re:You gotta be kidding me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why do I see all these anti-${convicted-hardcore-criminal} posts? Yeah ${this criminal who was convicted so many times, it's not ever funny, yet continued to do crime the very day his probation officer went away} has been a bastard many times, but to be swatted because they dared to use the term "sky" ...

      Answer: You're not wrong. You're just an asshole.

  39. alternative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abFJuqp867g

  40. Scroogle drive by WaffleMonster · · Score: 1

    Drive of Sauron

  41. Does anybody ... by gander666 · · Score: 0

    Does anybody still use Skydrive?

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    1. Re:Does anybody ... by tehlinux · · Score: 1

      At least one person...

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  42. Seriously? by MaWeiTao · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm seeing a bit too much anti-Microsoft bias here. If we weren't talking about Microsoft I'm pretty sure we'd all be outraged by that court's decision, especially given the reaction on Slashdot to similar cases in the past.

    Where was Microsoft irresponsible here? Who in their right mind would have thought that SkyDrive infringed on British Sky Broadcasting Group? Does any company or service with "sky" in the name also infringe? What about SkyTrain? Or Delta Sky Miles?

    I fail to see how Microsoft did anything wrong here.

    I've done naming for companies in the past and it can be an excruciating process. I'm pretty sure a company as big as Microsoft isn't cavalier about naming. If my clients are any indication, their own lawyers are a huge pain in the ass for the internet teams to deal with. They're specifically paid to be thorough and attuned to every little risk. I can't imagine how much more difficult it will be now coming up with a new name with the heightened sensitivity to even the remotest of infringement. I certainly wouldn't want to be on that naming team.

    1. Re:Seriously? by whoever57 · · Score: 0

      Where was Microsoft irresponsible here? Who in their right mind would have thought that SkyDrive infringed on British Sky Broadcasting Group?

      Yes, I mean Microsoft is being perfectly non-hypocritical here, I mean, who would confuse "Lindows" with "Windows" ..... oh, wait, we weren't talking about that! [waits for the downmods from the MS fanboys]

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    2. Re:Seriously? by excelsior_gr · · Score: 2

      Actually the court decision is in Microsoft's best interest. They were loosing customers due to the name ambiguity.

      Just the other day I got a Win8 laptop and when I saw the SkyDrive I thought: I ain't uploading to no SkyDrive and have those pesky Brits broadcast my stuff all over the place! Get your own goddamn data!

    3. Re:Seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well now Microsoft know how it feels to be on the receiving end.
      I remember a case years ago where they filed (and won) against a bra manufacturer who labelled their products as 'Micro Soft'. Who'd have thought someone could get those 2 mixed up ?

        And as for the SkyDrive name, I can see where the judge is coming from on this. People who subscribe to Sky TV can also get their broadband thrown in with it. So it's not that hard to imagine your average sofa dwelling Sky subscriber thinking that an internet based file store called SkyDrive being part of their Sky package.

    4. Re:Seriously? by Flere+Imsaho · · Score: 1

      Who in their right mind would have thought that SkyDrive infringed on British Sky Broadcasting Group?

      A competent and thorough patent attorney's research interns?

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    5. Re:Seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where was Microsoft irresponsible here?

      Sky is a very well known trademark in the UK. Calling a product Sky Drive in the UK would be like somebody trying to launch Windows Drive in the US. I'm sure you'd agree that calling a product Windows Drive would be pretty stupid and would be like asking Microsoft to sue them. It was both arrogant and stupid of Microsoft to think they'd get away with this.

      Who in their right mind would have thought that SkyDrive infringed on British Sky Broadcasting Group?

      Sky have various products like Sky Television, Sky Broadband and Sky Talk. Many people in the UK would assume that Sky Drive is Sky's cloud service.

      Does any company or service with "sky" in the name also infringe?

      I think anything starting with Sky is likely to be judged as infringing.

      What about SkyTrain?

      Never heard of it. Let me look. "SkyTrain is a light rapid transit metro system in Greater Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada". In that case I doubt Sky care about a train service in Canada. If it were in the UK the situation would likely be very different.

    6. Re:Seriously? by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 1

      Exactly this. It isn't like some small-town garage startup managed not to notice that the name was already taken in one of the world's largest markets.

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    7. Re:Seriously? by lennier · · Score: 2

      Who in their right mind would have thought that SkyDrive infringed on British Sky Broadcasting Group?

      I dunno, the same people who might think that Apple Computer infringed on Apple Corps when they started selling music?

      Of course Windows doesn't play movies and BSkyB isn't in the business of transmitting information, so there isn't likely to be any conflict between the two services.

      Ever.

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    8. Re:Seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lindows was obviously and explicitly meant to ride the coat-tails of Windows' trademark, and furthermore was a product in the same category as Windows.

      Sky Broadcasting Group doesn't have anything like SkyDrive and doesn't appear to be about to create a SkyDrive clone.

      The situations are not similar. A closer equivalent is if Microsoft created a streaming service called "FryBroadcasting" and marketed it in the UK. Or if Sky had a TV show called "Windows into the past" that had nothing to do with Operating Systems and Microsoft sued them (even if Microsoft intended to start producing TV shows with the Windows label on it in the future).

    9. Re:Seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As a company which held the open source software movement and internet standards by the balls for a decade, I think Microsoft deseves cruel an inhumane treatment where others do not.

  43. MIcrosoft Sky Drive by nicoleb_x · · Score: 1

    Just add Microsoft in front. That is the only way they got away with Windows.

  44. They will call it "SkyDrive" by Werrismys · · Score: 1

    They will buy BSkyB, keep calling SkyDrive SkyDrive, and then kill BSkyB.

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    1. Re:They will call it "SkyDrive" by pbhj · · Score: 1

      It's got a market cap of $18 Billion and the controlling stake is held by Fox. I don't see that happening.

  45. NSADrive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We watch as you drive.

  46. too much anti-Microsoft bias? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is Slasdot!

    Hater of all things mainstream or useful.

    1. Re:too much anti-Microsoft bias? by Kingkaid · · Score: 1

      Ya... the anti MS sentiment here is prolific and constantly reminds me that many people are still stuck in the 90s (poor souls)

    2. Re:too much anti-Microsoft bias? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We would all be very lucky to be stuck in the 90s.

  47. F Drive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who will back the F up?
    If you cancel your F drive, did you get the F out?

  48. Re:Skynet anyone? by Tarlus · · Score: 5, Funny

    Don't you mean Sky.NET?

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  49. Rename it in UK only? by TheSkepticalOptimist · · Score: 1

    ...cause nobody outside of the UK gives a shit about Sky, and I am sure a few in the UK feel the same way.

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  50. DriveRT, FTW by marciot · · Score: 2

    They could go with the highly successful WindowsRT campaign and call it "DriveRT"

  51. Re:Skynet anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Murdoch couldn't challenge the name Skynet without him becoming an enemy target to assassinate for the self aware skynet network.

    No amount of money can stop a bus load of nukes heading to news corp..

  52. Call it Bob! by FofE+IT+Guy · · Score: 1

    Just call it Bob. Where is the file? Bob has it. Bring the files with you. No worries, Bob will.

    1. Re:Call it Bob! by Maxwell · · Score: 1

      They would have to call it Bob II as they already tried Bob a long time ago...

  53. DriveSky by Stele · · Score: 1

    Nope, that's the brand name of that new flying car on display at Airventure this week.

  54. yeah, right. by sootman · · Score: 1

    "This is quite a big branding issue for Microsoft."

    Oh yeah, I'm sure the owners of hotmail.com/live.com/outlook.com, MSN Search/Windows Live Search/Bing, and MSN Messenger/Windows Live Messenger/Office Communicator/Lync are lying in bed awake at night over this.

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  55. I have an idea for a great name by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

    Call it DevNull. Because that's what will eventually happen when you store your data "in the cloud".

  56. That's a shame by Barefoot+Monkey · · Score: 1

    MS had quite a catchy name there. I do find it odd that the article said nothing about Sky Broadcasting having a trademark on (or even using) "SkyDrive" - it seems that they're claiming ownership over anything with the word "sky" in it, and that MS is conceding. Yikes.

    1. Re:That's a shame by pbhj · · Score: 1

      Do you think if Sky (a household name and a known - by consumers - user of the Sky-prefix for products) brought out "Windows TV" or "Bing Broadband" that there wouldn't be trademark confusion?

    2. Re:That's a shame by Barefoot+Monkey · · Score: 1

      (a household name and a known - by consumers - user of the Sky-prefix for products)

      Is that true? That's the exact thing that was conspicuously absent from the article, which is why it seemed so odd.

  57. Painful rectal itch by stox · · Score: 1

    with a name like that, it must be good!

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  58. How about SkyDrive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...and tell the UK court to go fuck itself? Seriously, let's say they rename it to DriveSky. Then they find out in Russia there is a Drivesky cloud storage company. Doh! Change the name again. then there's a conflict in another country, then another. then another. Fuck this ridiculously complicated shit.

  59. New name by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 1

    What about MS Cloud? That matches their Word processor.

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  60. options by crabbz · · Score: 1

    Is IoneSkyeDrive taken?

  61. Modern Drive by Jagungal · · Score: 1

    Seems to have worked before

  62. Don't like skydrive? OK, would you prefer this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    MurdochCanBlowMeDrive.co.uk

  63. Re:Skynet anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No. Just no. We need to call it DriveBy. After all, if anyone complains - Microsoft can show lots of prior art on drive by downloads of malware.

  64. Microsoft should go back to generics by Jeremy+Erwin · · Score: 1

    Windows, Word. SQL Server,..

    I suggest "Microsoft Cloud".

  65. should they have won? by Twillerror · · Score: 1

    I know we all hate MS here, but doesn't it worry you that you can't have a product name with the word Sky in it.

    I mean if MS renamed themselves to SkySoft or something maybe...and even then...

    Seems like we just gave this company a bunch of free publicity that wasn't actually being harmed. Was anyone confused by the names?

    1. Re:should they have won? by pbhj · · Score: 1

      This is one of the few cases in which I feel there could be genuine confusion for the UK consumer.

      They don't own every word with Sky in it, there are loads of registered marks that have that (Skype, owned by MS, is one). However Sky Drive would be descriptive of a storage product from Sky. Sky do own that mark - Sky - in the relevant Nice class. If drive weren't descriptive then MS would have a hope but I'd still consider it similar enough to deny for a major tech competitor.

    2. Re:should they have won? by mysidia · · Score: 1

      This is one of the few cases in which I feel there could be genuine confusion for the UK consumer.

      Yes... Sky is a generic name.... much like Water, Air, Earth, Rock, or Light

      If you name your company one of those things such as "Water, Inc."

      Then it's you that create confusion for the consumer; just because this is inconvenient for you doesn't mean "Water" should be a defensible trademark, for example, you shouldn't be able to sue a company selling a product called "Bottled Water" or "Ultra deluxe spring Water".

  66. The Cloud by Maxwell · · Score: 1

    They will just call it The Cloud and take advantage of all the free material advertising use of "The Cloud". Think of all the presentations you've seen with "The Cloud" - yup, that is Microsoft! Kind of like they did with "SQL Server" back in the day.

    1. Re:The Cloud by linuxci · · Score: 2

      I hope you knew BSkyB own "The Cloud" too :)

      http://www.thecloud.net/

  67. In further news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Microsoft has also been ordered by the court to rename its internet conferencing product Skype, due to the Sky trademark. This also halted Microsoft's ingenious solution to change the name Skydrive to Skypedrive.

    1. Re:In further news... by linuxci · · Score: 1

      No, although Sky already tried to sue them for that! They failed on that count.

      I think the decision is fair in the UK. Most people wouldn't think Skype had anything to do with Sky, but Sky Drive does sound like a product Sky might release to its broadband customers.

      They've branched out from Sky Broadband and offered other internet services under the Sky brand before. One failed attempt was Sky Songs, I thought Sky Tunes would have sounded better but perhaps they were advised not to.

      In the UK it's a fact that people associate the Sky brand with BSkyB particularly in the entertainment and broadband industries. Sky was well known in the UK before most people owned computers.

    2. Re:In further news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So there should actually be data on all these possible problems with dipshits in the UK.

  68. SkiDive by ichthus · · Score: 1

    How about SkyDive? As in, what their relevance in the tech industry is doing.

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  69. Chicken Little? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Sky is falling! The Sky is falling!

  70. Re:Skynet anyone? by Flere+Imsaho · · Score: 1, Informative

    Nice - funniest comment I've seen all week :-)

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  71. I was going to suggest similiar... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Skyfall... as in the James Bond movie :D

  72. Rehash of iControversy. by Bjecas · · Score: 1

    What Sky is contesting isn't a trademark on "SkyDrive", but on "SkyWhateverYouPutHere", much like Apple argued over iWhatever. This is just ridiculous...

  73. "F" marks the spot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And all the insults are implied when the NS@ see the content on the F(#%$)-drive ;-P

  74. In other news. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In other news: Rupert starts suing airlines.

  75. Shame the decision was made by andrewbaldwin · · Score: 1

    Microsoft vs Murdoch

    One of those court cases you'd like both to lose - and one where you don't mind the lawyers leeching off their funds.

    Now if only it had dragged on longer we may have seen both sides suffering from, and distracted by, the case.

  76. DriveSky? by hawkingradiation · · Score: 1

    To remain consistent Microsoft will have to reverse all names to keep it's brand strategy. CEO MerBall, who has taken charge of the One Xbox he is trying to sell, will still try not to be your typical DRM laden, Soft Micro computer dealer. He is hard as nails in charting his org and it is a surprise with the mainstay of his operations, Swodniw and all of the 365 Office subscriptions customers want to buy, instead of own, he is still on top. No real reason as to why he would rename Windows so close to the arch villan Snowden, maybe to show that he is still hip with the younger generation? Remember Soft Micro has changed. :/

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  77. Spydrive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    SPYDRIVE should be a hip moniker

  78. Re:Skynet anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In soviet russia, drivesky.

  79. Re:Skynet anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    SnowdenDrive. In honor of the guy who revealed it's main purpose.

  80. Why change the world for just one country? by dhaen · · Score: 1

    Google had a similar problem with Gmail in the UK, so called it Googlemail in that territory. After a while they came to some kind of agreement with the name owner and were able to use Gmail.

    1. Re:Why change the world for just one country? by tehlinux · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if MS works out a similar deal with Sky.

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  81. I have a suggestion... by hyades1 · · Score: 1

    How about "Cumulodumbass"?

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  82. AzureDrive by manu0601 · · Score: 1

    What else?

  83. Re:How about.... by Bob_Who · · Score: 1

    ...... So how exactly is it a "me too" service?

    You're right. They should call it suck my Ballmer drive.

  84. Let's see by PPH · · Score: 1

    We're selling it in he UK. And its sort of cloud-like. So lets call it London Fog.

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  85. As part of Windows Live... by plazman30 · · Score: 1

    LiveDrive? Or the Windows 8 version... WhyDrive?

  86. How about... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How about something much more fitting:

    Spydrive

  87. I don't think so.. by sky770 · · Score: 1

    Please stop encouraging M$ marketing nut jobs to spoil my nick again.

  88. Whispy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Introducing Microsoft's Whispy, your data may or may not be there, but thanks for your money.

  89. rename to "SpyDrive" ?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    very appropriate, don't you think :)

  90. A more realistic name? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How about NSA drive?