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New submitter PopHollywood writes "Is iOS 7 slower than version 6? After upgrading, myself and a few others notice slow, choppy experience when scrolling, changing apps, etc. Is this common?" For those using iOS in general, what's been your experience with the new upgrade?
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I work in a field where I see a lot of mobile devices and we've been seeing a lot of issues with iPhone 4/4S/5 units that had iOS 6 and were upgraded to iOS 7. Haven't come across too many 5C/S units yet but the few we have seem to be doing okay (no real issues with the 5S, 5C seems a little stuttery at times but not bad).
That Apple has pushed out updates to hardware that couldn't really handle it. They've done this both to computers and I phones.
...especially after a reboot. Seems to get better as my commonly used apps are stored in RAM, but still choppy in areas such as switching apps through the multitask menu and occasionally when starting to type, which is far more annoying. Absolutely fine on my iPad 3 though.
There's room for improvement, but I'm not exactly displeased.
There seem to be two different kinds of slowdown. The first is due to the new animations for things like going back to the home screen. The second is more intermittent, and happens mostly when task switching. Both of them are annoying. The whole reason I went with iOS over Android was the snappier UI.
The disappearing Safari toolbar also drives me crazy. I wish I had held off on upgrading. Hopefully Apple will have some tweaks and patches out soon.
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Since the iphone 3g, apple has been pushing updates that slow down older phones.
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When upgrading my mac computers I have always seen a significant boost in performance on the same hardware (obviously).
When upgrading the iOS devices I have found the opposite to be true. Each new version, on existing hardware, is slower but the feature set expands incredibly.
I think this is because iOS started out as an infant and did what it was supposed to do really well and performed really well on the hardware it was designed on, and had features that only worked on the existing hardware. But as iOS has matured, so has the feature set.... There are incredible search engines, graphics engines, Siri, and tons more... this has required increasing hardware capabilities to keep up with the features. .... So the trick with iOS is don't expect to get performance gains with iOS updates unless you update your hardware at the same time. Each new iOS version brings new bells and whistles, but not performance. With each iOS capable hardware device you should expect significant performance boosts.
I haven't noticed any general slowness on an iPhone 5.
However, there does seem to be an issue with the new Control Center. I have noticed sluggish responsiveness from buttons on the bottom of the screen in certain apps, presumably due to a conflict with the Control Center which can be activated by an upwards swipe from the bottom of the screen. Turning off the Control Center within apps (Settings/Control Center/Access within apps) fixed this issue for me while still retaining functionality from the main and lock screens.
Maybe I'm the only one, but my iPhone 4S is actually working faster now. Transitions in and out of apps is much quicker, without the delay I had before.
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I've not noticed excessive stutter on my 4s, but battery life seems to be worse thus far. I've not had iOS 7 installed long enough to be sure, but it looks like even with my typical workday activity the battery is draining noticably faster. Getting two days out of a charge doesn't look possible anymore.
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I seriously doubt iOS7 is slow on iPhone 5s/5c. Now on iPhone 4, you should only be upgrading if you really need new features or must have consistency with your other devices, not with expectations of great performance. I the later case, you should probably have stuck with iOS5.
It's perfectly fine for me on iPhone 5 or iPad 2.
I had an iPhone 4S and I upgraded to iOS7. I noticed the slower animations and choppier UI right away. It was one of the things that made me very happy that I was ready for an upgrade. My new iPhone 5S performs perfectly, with the smooth UI and animations that I have come to expect from Apple. It seems like the older hardware just can't support it.
I wouldn't say there's much more eye candy, but a lot of what there is you can at least turn off ("reduce motion" and "increase contrast" in the settings should turn off the parallax effects and translucent blurs, respectively).
That said, I notice no slowdowns on my iPhone 5 or 3rd gen iPad. Everything runs quite smoothly (though unsurprisingly it didn't during the betas).
I was using the Betas of iOS since b3, and have the current version on my iPhone 5. It's as fast if not faster. And the battery life has been a LOT better.
I also installed iOS on an iPhone 4 for someone, and they noticed right away that it seemed a whole lot snappier.
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And you're proof of this is what?
I installed iOS 7 on a iPhone 4 about a week ago (the GM version) and the user of the phone has noticed nothing bad, and in fact says it seems faster than iOS 6 was. PLUS they love a lot of the new features of it.
It's either on the beat or off the beat, it's that easy.
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From what I can see there is a *lot* more eye candy (and I'm not talking about the icon changes) - it seems like the decided they needed to animate every single action and control in the OS now. Not to mention transparency, animated blur effects (especially in the camera), etc.
I don't notice any slowdown from it, though - seems like they are using the 3D HW to do it, and the latest devices have pretty decent graphics. In fact, the perception is often that it's faster (which is the point of transition animation) but that's just a subjective observation...
The choppiest site I've visited on my 4S with iOS7 is slashdot's mobile site. The background of each story is "active" in the sense that when I thumb-down to scroll, the story's background dims to grey. The regular white background returns when I lift my thumb. This, combining this action with scrolling really makes for a choppy experience!
seems just as smooth as iOS 6 on an iPhone 5 and 4S to me...
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That's a false equivalency. Apple controls the whole process, they design the hardware and set the specifications, they write the software for iOS and they decide which devices will receive upgrades. Plus, Apple doesn't typically release dozens of different models at any given time.
Whereas neither Android nor Windows mobile is so vertically integrated.
iOS7 should be fine on an iphone 5 or 4s, but there definitely should be a noticeable slowdown on an iphone 4. That hardware is a bit old by now, and iOS7 is designed for the newer hardware. E.g. the iphone 4 still has a single core A4 CPU, while the 4s already has the dual core A5. The newer phones (5 and up) also have twice the RAM. Still, upgrading to iOS7 is a user option, and it's better to have that option than not to have it. Not many 3 year old Android phones still get OS upgrades.
My experience on an ipad 2 so far: popular apps like Safari start somewhat slower, say from a bit under a second to a bit over a second. Afterwards it seems ok. Some transitions could be smoother but they'd not be quicker in my perception. It is quite logical that there is some loss of speed on older hardware. In general it is still very usable and the clean, crisp UI works well after dubious first few minutes.
I've been using it on my 5 for over a week now (I installed the GM shortly after it was released). Since I installed it pre-release, I did a restore instead of an upgrade. I've had snappy performance and great battery life. I suggest backing up and doing a restore.
All these new animations drive me batty.
Sure, you see something happen right away in response to an action, so in a sense, you have instant feedback. If that makes you think things are happening faster, lucky you.
Because my iPhone 5, when it was running iOS 6 felt faster to me because any action I took translated to a change of UX paradigm right away where I could take yet another action. Hence, I'm working faster. Now with animations, I have to wait for each animation before I can take my next action. That feels slower to me.
Worst offender is the new lock screen. Why did they decide to make me wait an extra 1/2-1 seconds after hitting the power or home button to turn it on so that can "gracefully" fade in from black before giving me access to the "slide to unlock"? It's maddening.
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I dunno. Can't get faster than instant. Which is why I'm glad I can turn off so much of the useless animations in Android.
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I haven't really noticed a slowdown on either my iPhone 4S or iPad 2. It gets a little choppy occasionally on my iPad 2, but that happened with iOS 6 at times as well. The biggest issue I've seen is decreased battery life because of all the background tasks being done. That and the constantly reloading of apps do to more memory being used by iOS 7.
I did have another issue on both devices, where somehow all my music (iTunes Match downloads), somehow got flagged as "Other Data" and couldn't be removed. I fixed this on my iPad 2 by turning off iTunes Match and doing a hard reset. For my iPhone 4S, nothing short of a restore fixed it. Both devices updated from iOS 6.1.3 OTA.
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After listening to the frustrations of our iOS devs working to get our app ready for iOS 7, I'm waiting a couple of months before upgrading. Give lazy app producers time to patch their stuff before taking the plunge. Or maybe I'll just wait until 7.0.1 / 7.1.
I think you're forgetting how much animation there was in iOS 6 just because you got used to it, whereas the iOS 7 ones are different and are therefore noticeable. Other than the parallax effect and the translucence/blur, which I'd already mentioned, where else are there animations/eye candy where there weren't before? Folders opened with an animation (slide up rather than zoom in), the springboard loaded with an animation (swoop in from the sides rather than fall in from above), views slid from one to the next before just as they do now. And you're forgetting the subtle skeumorphic animations in certain controls that are now gone altogether, like the shine on the metallic volume slider knob that tracked the motion of the phone.
It's not that I don't think ios 7 puts more strain on the hardware - it does, especially with the translucent blur (which is why the blur is disabled on the iPhone 4). I just don't think it qualifies as "more eye candy." Mostly *different* eye candy, the worst of which is disableable if you need to improve performance.
I'm running it on an iPhone 4 and iPhone 5 and have noticed no slow downs. The 4 is actually a bit faster than it was under iOS 6. The only issues I've really seen from anyone is people complaining about the animations eating away fractions of seconds of their precious little lives.
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Newsflash: hardware requirements increase with new features. Supporting end of life hardware that hasn't been made for multiple generations in new platforms holds back said platform. Whether it is iOS, WIndows, Linux or whatever.
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Also, android handsets don't get new OS releases 3 years later to compare.
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Update went well on my iPhone 4 (not S). Still am getting used to some elements. For example, the "ok" to unlock is kind of really unclear, and as such, I have doubts on putting nondescript text as buttons instead of having them shown with a rounded rect button frame.
I had MAJOR slowdowns everytime I was writing some line of text. I mean major MAJOR, like the UI freezing for 10 seconds, then putting all the text I was blindly writing, and then freezing for yet another 10 seconds. Then, Mr. Interwebz found the solution, which is to disable iCloud synchro for documents & settings ... and from that point on, no more battery hug, no more slowdowns, and everything is quite responsive.
So far, like it!
This. I did have to do this once after the upgrade on my iPhone 4 (and after the usual reboot the upgrade does automatically) and it's been smooth sailing ever since.
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You have to admire apple for their ingenuity. What better way to force people to ditch that old phone than to update the OS, make it more resource hungry with fancy schmancy animations that can't be turned off by the user? I used to own an iPhone 3 a few years ago, and when they forced an update onto it that basically made it useless, I decided there and then to switch to Android. Never looked back.
If the Apple way is so important to you, then I guess you have to accept it. For me, it was a simple choice.
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It's definitely slower and I regret upgrading.
There's not enough white space to provide any visual separation on a device so small when there is not even an attempt at drawing lines or separating elements. Almost everything is smaller and harder to read, and it's not obvious what is a "button" and what is just text in a corner somewhere. In fact, many of the improvements are simple knock offs of Android has had for a while. The world will soon be divided into Upswipers and Downswipers.
I was thinking about updating my 4S, but while 7 was a step forward for some usability cases, I'm not sure I want to stick around for whatever is next. I am tired of not having full access to the hardware, and when I heard Ives was going to cut out cruft, I didn't imagine he was going to replace the whole system with the Office 2012 theme. Unfortunately for us, they're both based upon the premise that everyone wants to live in pure white Helvetica purgatory, and I don't think most of us do.
It's probably a consequence of his background in hardware. When you cut elements out of real materials down to their simplest possible form, there is still depth and innate information because it is a physical object. When you remove all delineation and depth from two dimensional representations, new users cannot even guess at your purpose when it looks like a blank sheet of paper with text and small iconography scattered around randomly on top of it. While the elements look much better on larger screens (as found in this informal poll), things like the slot-machine style picker are not very obvious when you're scrolling around. I don't think they did much real world testing with new users on actual devices.
tl:dr; If you're a first year art student, you will absolutely love iOS 7. If you prefer to have some visual cues on what is content and what is part of the interface, you may want to hold off until Apple allows graphic designers capable of using more than one color back on the team.
Apple has traditionally tweaked their latest software to run its best on the latest hardware, sometimes at the cost of running slower on older hardware. In general, most performance tweaks have side effects that will vary based on the underlying hardware. While Apple could create different versions of iOS tuned for different hardware, that would cause another layer of fragmentation, which is something Apple tries to avoid. That, and the obvious fact that they can sell more hardware by focusing on tweaking the OS for the latest hardware.
Sure, there are exceptions. But expecting end of sale / end of life hardware to be supported by NEW OS releases is living in fantasy land.
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What iPhone are you and your friends running? Model makes a big difference - for instance, I'm on the 4. My performance is somewhat choppy at key animation points in the OS, but that's expected. So?
You have to admire apple for their ingenuity. What better way to force people to ditch that old phone than to update the OS, make it more resource hungry...
That's been going on for as long as there has been a computer industry.
Poor taste.
I used to own an iPhone 3 a few years ago, and when they forced an update onto it ...
How did that happen? Updates have always been voluntary... Though of course you would be volunteering to quickly become incompatible with newer software, so I'll grant you it isn't the most convenient of choices.
This. I had to update the iOS on my iPhone 3GS to run an app I needed, and my phone immediately got unbearably slow. It was awful. I ended up having to disable a bunch of the 'new' features which seems to have broken some old features as well just to make it sort of ok, and it's still slower than it was before.
OTOH my phone is going on 4 years old now and it's been functional and handy, and I like the os, so I'm probably gonna buy an iPhone 5s pretty soon.
You have to reboot it once.
My experience: Every operation is, or at least seems to be, much faster; and the UI seems much more responsive than iOS6.
Have been using iOS7 for ~3days.
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Subjectively slower on my 4S, but Safari bookmarks are so slow to edit there is no doubt a bug there (type> wait 10 seconds > character appears in field).
Not always with forced updates though.
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It seems I'm the only one but I feel the change of those icons is horrible. Flat design might be ok for windows, etc, while the blur and other effects are cool, but the fonts are thinner and even when you use the Bold option in accessibility, it still doesn't read as good as it read before. I guess with a shiny Retina display it is awesome, but for an iPad mini it doesn't work extremely well. I really can't wait until the industry hit The Next Big Thing TM and focus away from flat design. It might be cool for some things but I really dislike all that white space in stuff like the new Office in Windows 8 and the Setting and Mail app on iOS7.
I like how they changed the pop up message boxes. Used to be a bubble that would bounce into focus. The animation for the new versioning much shorter, and it feels much more responsive.
On my iPhone 4
Overall, it feels snappier, but that may be psychological, since the interface looks cleaner. Also, I see a lot of negative comments of 'new iPhone' owners regarding the slowness because of all the animations. I don't see those. Maybe because they are automatically disabled on the iPhone 4. Perhaps, the iPhone 4, of all compatible models, is the best one to upgrade iOS 7 on.
Scrolling is slower. in iOS 6, the scrolling page appeared to be subjected to a certain amount of inertia. I.e. it kept on scrolling for a little bit even after you stopped dragging. Also, the faster you swiped your finger up, the more inertia there seemed to be. It was helpful in scrolling though lengthy pages. All that seems to be gone now. At least in Safari.
Skype is broken in iOS 7 on several points: (i) longer time tags are capped, '20' rather than '20.39', (ii) sending photographs and video messages is broken now. And there's no update available yet.
Could you imagine turning on your old iPhone 1 and being told it was now installing iOS 7?
Feels a little faster in some areas like web browsing, generally about the same, but I prefer the old UI.
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I can get to the unlock keypad in less than 0.5 seconds. This is on iOS 7 on an old slow iPhone 4.
Just tap Home or Unlock hardware button then almost immediately slide the touchscreen to unlock. Use two fingers if you're not dextrous.
The unlock keyboard is displayed an responsive to taps in under 500ms.
Maybe it's slower on the higher-end phones?
Is there any way to 1) revert back to iOS6 after the update or 2) stop all these animations? Android has an option to stop all animations. I saw Apple has an option to disable some. Is there a tool/hack to disable all?
"That said, I notice no slowdowns on my iPhone 5 or 3rd gen iPad."
Same thing on my 4S.
The only thing that bugged me was that gamecenter always popped up when I wanted to do a solo game, I tried everything to kill it, apparently there's lots of people complaining when I searched for a solution.
After a loooong fiddle I found that even if you're logged out, it still knows you're there, because of the appleID field, where your loginname still stays after having logged out.
To kill it you have to fail a login with a fake ID and fake password, then the next time you just press cancel and it will show up no more.
Why would it? I have upgraded my galaxy tablet with each new Android version and it becomes faster each time.
My iTunes just tells me there's an update for my iPhone and asking if I want to install it, with the option of doing it now, doing it later (which is just "bother me next time I sync"), or never ask me about this again. I'm not sure how that's a forced update.
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It is very responsive and very quick both loading applications and content within. Safari is quicker to load and browse pages and very responsive.
I loaded iOS 7 on my mates iPhone 4 and it added half a second to load any apps and transition. It was painful. The only upside was, once again, inside Safari loading pages was quicker.
iOS 7 seems no slower on my iPad Mini either.
Protip: you don't have to wait for the fade to finish in lock screen.
I'm not sure how that's a forced update.
Because you can never go back to 6.1.3 now. (officially .. w/o jailbreak, etc). If you have any problem with your phone and you need to reinstall the OS .. you are screwed - you *have* to install iOS 7. Or if you decide to upgrade to 7 just to "see what it was like" and found it slow on your particular hardware, too bad, you cant go back. - This is especially bad for "dated" hardware like the iPhone 4.
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2013/09/new-lease-on-life-or-death-sentence-ios-7-on-the-iphone-4/
"When asked whether you should install iOS 6 on an iPhone 3GS, we can say "yes" without hesitation or condition. When it comes to the iPhone 4 and iOS 7, our response is a more measured "do it if you like the new features, but have you considered a newer phone?"
iOS 7 on Apple's oldest-supported hardware is hardly a disaster, but it's apparent that the only reason Apple issued this update was because they were selling the iPhone 4 free with contract up until September 10. It has been their value option for a year, and in the Apple ecosystem, even people who bought a new iPhone 4 on September 9 will get at least a year's worth of updates. The A4 simply isn't up to the task of rendering iOS 7 as Apple intended, and the upgrade in general performance and apparent smoothness between even the iPhone 4 and year-newer 4S is significant (to say nothing of the iPhone 5, 5C, and 5S).
When it comes to launching apps, the iPhone 4's general slowness is only exacerbated by the too-long animation durations in iOS 7. This is also a problem on the faster phones and tablets, but at least there you've got faster underlying hardware to keep everything moving at a steady clip.
It's great that Apple isn't abandoning older iPhone owners really. People buying an iPhone 4 free with contract were still getting a phone that felt reasonably fast with iOS 6, and they weren't necessarily aware that they were getting an older single-core SoC with an older, slower GPU that would be ill-suited for Apple's new direction. At least they have the option to upgrade. That said, the iPhone 4 and iOS 7 just can't quite provide an experience that's up to Apple's usual standard. Apply the update if there's an iOS 7 feature (or an iOS 7-only app) that you need in your life, but our recommendation now would either be to wait for potential performance boosts in a future iOS 7 update or to start looking into a new iPhone 5C or 5S."
I see them. The zoom in / zoom out of of the home screen often stutters for me.
That's hittin the nail on the head.
If I didn't have absolutely NOTHING to do, I wouldn't be here.
I downgraded my iPad back to 6.1.3.... It's perfectly doable.
Perhaps that is more a sign of how poor the previous versions of Android were, they finally started getting it right?
Aside from the animations making things take longer, performance is choppier than it used to be on my iPad 3. Even typing in some apps now lags at times, and it never did that before.
Looking enviously at my wife's Nexus 7 2nd gen, that thing flies.
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After upgrading my iphone 5 the phone has many times gone unresponsive after sleeping. Sometimes it might come back 20-30 minutes later, but I usually end up resetting the phone. A few times I've noticed a ~10 second freeze-up while using the phone. My phone was glitch-free with iOS 6. I've done a "reset all settings" which seemed to help a bit. I've also tried turning off the passcode lock and/or control center access while locked, which hasn't. Needless to say I'm extremely disappointed in Apple right now!
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iPad 2
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iPad 2 is a bit buggy with App Store cards but nothing major. Performance is good on all my devices
I couldn't help noticing that iOS development got sensibly slower: XCODE 5 is a lot slower, and debug on the simulator is a dog: takes forever to launch on a relatively fast iMac with 16 Gb and solid state hard drive. This way XCode is adding minutes every time I need to recompile, relaunch, debug. In the course of the day this adds up...
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Sure they do. There are plenty of older phones running newer Cyanogenmod versions.
I've posted them up on my G+ account, so I'll just link to that instead of repeating myself here. Just remember, though, I come from a 3G to a 4 to a 5.
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You have to have the updates if you want the latest features though. Google releases most features as app updates so even old devices running 2.3 get them, but with iOS you need the latest OS version.
Currently I'm on Google Maps 6 because they removed the "navigate without destination" feature in 7. I'm on the latest OS version though, because I have the ability to update each individually.
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It's not that I don't think ios 7 puts more strain on the hardware - it does
Interesting decision by Apple there. They could have banked the battery life improvements they made, but instead decided to spend them on new eye candy.
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I'm running iOS 7.0 on my iPad 2 and did not experience any slowdown issues--in fact, Safari in iOS 7.0 renders web pages a lot faster than before.
However, I did see one noticeable issue: the graphical design--especially the text fonts--don't look good on an iPad 2 with its lower-resolution screen. I've seen the final iOS 7.0 on an 4th-generation iPad and thanks to its "Retina Display" resolution touchscreen, it does look really good.
Often times I find tiny micro-freezes during animations when switching apps or scrolling... it is horrible.
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I can see your point. Back when every windows upgrade required twice the ram and double the speed in processor I was happy to use linux and avoid the nonsense. A friend of mine has the new i0S7 on his iPhone5 and he seems happy with it but I am not all that impressed with iCandy. It's pretty but if it gets in the way there needs to be a way to turn it off.
The reason that third party apps are not supported is because XCodedrops those versions. As a developer I'm faced with the Faustian bargain of continuing older versions or supporting new versions. OF course Apple controls XCode too...
Yes there is a slight... delay here and there. Dunno. It does not feel slow, but it is not butter-smooth
anymore either.
That said, I like the new UI.
I am still a bit hesitant to upgrade my iPhone 4, because of my experience a few years ago with an upgrade on
an iPhone 3 which definitely was not pleasant.
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The funny thing is that even older devices (at least iPhone 4 and iPad 2, possibly others) which can upgrade to iOS7 don't have all those flashy effects. The backgrounds in popups are relatively flat, mostly opaque on my iPad, for instance. So no, it doesn't look like they activated effects my device can't handle in an effort to make me upgrade :)
You could read your line as: Android is delivering performance optimization, where Apple does not.
And, if you ever wrote some code you know "there is nothing to be optimized" is a lie.
Too soon.
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I'd wait a few minutes and take the opportunity to have a big old belly laugh over it. Goodness knows, I could use it (the laugh I mean).
Sounds exactly like Microsoft. Haven't they done this for the last 20 years? Each new generation of Windows has doubled some hardware requirement such as CPU speed and available memory. Now that Speeds aren't increasing, MS has decided that they need to increase RAM and Storage Capacity as much as possible for each generation.
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So I too noticed slow scrolling in Safari on my 4s after upgrading to iOS 7 but it seems to be site specific. Here on Slashdot the issue is very noticeable. Less so on most other sites I've visited. Overall I believe iOS 7 is a faster performing OS, but I believe the hardware on the 4s isn't quite up to snuff for everything iOS 7 has to offer. I'm looking forward to an upgrade to a 5s after the excitement dies down a bit - probably next month. I'm expecting some blazing speed out of my device then.
iOS7 is noticeably faster. I'm not a fan of the interface changes, many of which just seem to be for the purpose of change rather than actual improvement. What I wish most of all is that they would focus on legacy support. Quite frankly, they should support all hardware back to the original iPhone and gracefully fall back on features that just don't work. This would bring all users forward. Simultaneously they should support all software back to the original MacOS and even the Lisa and Apple I, II and III. They have the computational power to do the emulation. Legacy support is much more useful than these color changes.
Sluggish to react to homescreen presses (whether its to return to homescreen or just enter the 'multitasking menu'), and when in the Settings app and tapping one of the sections - it often takes about half a second for the options on the right to load, sometimes upwards a second. Responsive sure as damn hell isn't what I'd call it - and theres not even animations causing the delay. The core OS is just plain slow. It also doesn't respond reliably to swipe-up gestures in order to force-close apps, normally taking several attempts before it gets what I'm trying to do.
Not always with forced updates though.
Which IOS7, for all its faults, is most definitely not.
You do not have to update to the newest version and - as far as I know - you can't /automatically/ update anyway (the device will check and download the update, but you still have to manually start the installation). Your device will continue to work with the older version of iOS, and so will your apps (although some app updates may require later versions of iOS, they will not install if you have an incompatible operating system). The update may be required to get additional features but it is not required to keep using the device and is not forced upon you.
So this is more like having an PC with Windows XP and being alerted that Windows 7 is available. Depending on your hardware configuration, the new OS may require more resources than your PC can provide, but if you decide to install anyway, it's your own damn fault.
There are a lot of problems of how Apple manages the relationship between itself and its customers with which to take issue without any need to fabricate new ones.
Not always with forced updates though.
Could you imagine turning on your old 486-DX266 and being told it was now installing windows 7
Except nobody is forcing you to install iOS7.
Blur is definitely a real slowdown, we deliberately used our own nav bars to avoid it. It's especially sluggish on any scrolling list. Of course this is not turned on for iPhone 4. You also have to realize that this OS is so new we didn't have a new beta for the last month before it was released and that meant no time to really optimize anything. Even Apple barely got it completed enough to ship. On the iPad it's still beta as far as I can see. They only started the whole UI transition in Nov of last year and that simply wasn't enough time to get everything optimized. Changing the UI and much of the frameworks underlying an OS in less than a year has never been done to this level. It amazes me it works at all. Still it will take a few updates until it catches up. By then you won't notice issues any more. Remember how long it took MS to go from XP to Win 7?
BS. Please use Google. Many how-to's, no jail break required.
yes and no. I could get windows 7 running on a machine with less hardware than I could with vista. I havent tried but i hear windows 8 does not need more specs as well. previous to windows 7 you would be totally correct however.
have you seen my sig? there are many others like it but none that are the same
Oh yes, I don't find the IOS7 popups as irritating as the 'bounce once and leave OK and Cancel button are disabled-wait 2 seconds-do a second bounce-now enable the OK and Cancel buttons to allow the user to press one' popups from IOS6 and before.
Changing wallpaper on an iPad 3 takes anywhere from 10 to 30 seconds. For comparison, wallpaper changes are pretty much instant on an iPad1 in IOS 5.1.1.
I thought all software updates were supposed to include a "snappier" thing, that all iFans can be pleased about? That makes this story newsworthy by itself!
More seriously, I was under the impression they'd moved back from the composited transparency layered shadowed Mac OS X style interface to something more minimalist, modelled on the UIs that started coming out in the late 1990s when 3D outlines for buttons became considered passe (Android went in the same direction with ICS & Jelly Bean.) So I'm genuinely surprised this update would actually cause the UI to become slower.
You are not alone. This is not normal. None of this is normal.
I am not able to slide to unlock until the text is visible. New screen lets you slide anywhere so exact position is not the problem in this case.
Asking people to think is like asking them to buy you a new car
Android handsets don't need a new OS for 3 years after release. My Nexus One from years back is doing just fine using version 2.2, IIRC. There's still plenty of apps that work for it and I can't recall ever having found an app that I needed which wasn't supported. The only exceptions are cases where the necessary hardware wasn't in the phone. Whereas iOS developers don't even bother supporting older phones in most cases.
Bottom line here is that apart from the die hard fanbois, iOS isn't particularly special and you're looking at a $650 phone that was creamed by the Nexus 4 last generation, a phone that cost a full $300 less. And looks likely to get creamed again by the successor.
Folder open/close animation is slightly but noticeably longer, and the springboard/homescreen loading takes twice as long as under iOS6. I can see this clearly on my iOS7 4S vs my iOS6 5. These seem to be built-in to the animations of iOS7 itself, rather than being caused by older hardware.
I wish this didn't change my perception that iOS7 is a bit slower, but it is literally visible as soon as I start using it (unlocking to springboard/homescreen). 3 years ago when I experimented with jailbreaking, one of the best ones was reducing all animation time by half.
Trusting in the Steve Jobs Legacy, I eagerly upgraded both of my Apple iPads (2nd & 3rd gen) to iOS 7. But I was sorely disappointed. The quality is not what we have come to expect from Apple. I learned long ago not to update my MicroSoft packages with such reckless abandon. Luckily, I have not yet "upgraded" my iPhone 4S. And I still have my Android. I would pay a premium to restore my iOS 7 devices to iOS 6, so they are once again east to read.
Using the heretofore interoperable Calendar on both iPad & iCloud as an example for my preliminary analysis: The pastel colors are pasty, not vibrant as in iOS 6. The ruled lines (from TOD on left to event) are too faint to see. The text strokes are too narrow to read. But with the BOLD option in my iOS 7 settings, the text is no longer sharp. These calendar layouts are now all but unreadable (for my less than young eyes). Worse, the icons now look shallow and cheap. I no longer have Pride of Ownership in these devices that as I had last week. Given this week's degradation, I would not have switched from Android to Apple. I trusted you guys (Apple), and am consequently sorely disappointed.
Turning off Apps is no longer a simple tap. The swipe up does not always work, so I must redo it two or three times. That may be OK for young folk, but quickly turns into muscle-strain for me. This nicely compliments the eye-strain from the new iPad layout. Apple should remember that Baby Boomers will soon outnumber them.
I have never seen a 'forced update' on an iPhone. They are ALWAYS optional.
I'm not sure you understand the concept of "forced update" versus "cannot downgrade".
So, all those security issues in the base OS is irrelevant? Or shouldn't you say, they are forced to release everything as an app update because their partners screw the customers over by refusing to push updates out.
Hows the security updates?
I run: Windows, OS X, Linux, FreeBSD. Just because you have a hammer, doesn't mean everything is a nail.
I could go through dozens of examples (and many are small, but that's kind of the point of "eye candy"). Here are a bunch more (that did NOT exist on the old one, so definitely "more" eye candy):
- messages - each message animates independently in its own bubble so they "bounce" around (I have no idea WHY they bothered with this...)
- weather - the background weather/clouds/etc is animated (this was subtle but kind of cool). But if that's not the definition of added eye candy what the heck is!?
- clock - the icon is now actually a real clock, showing the current time with a moving second hand (this would almost be a "feature" if the digital clock at the top of the phone wasn't still much easier to read)
- camera - the whole switch from video/camera/pano with swipe and an animation/blur/focus effect.
- Safari - now has 3D stacked tabs (which clearly uses the 3D hardware)
- app switcher - now has screenshots for every running app, and smooth scrolling through them (in fact, *differential smooth scrolling* for the screenshots and icons)
- siri - several small effects... but I think I made my point...
In fairness, on virtually every platform updates are frequently only superficially voluntary. Support ends. Third party support ends. Third party support for Third Party support ends (eg. that app you run has a security hole in it? It's fixed in the latest version, but that only runs on ${YOUR PLATFORM VERSION+2}
In the early 2000s I got myself a Mac and switched to Mac OS X. I liked it. I really did.
But having not really jumped on the "mainstream platform" thing, well, pretty much ever, I suddenly found the whole upgrades thing was more of a problem than I thought. My toe-in-the-water Mac turned out to be too old to run 10.3 without nasty hacks. The laptop I bought that seemed relatively up to date after I bought it and did run 10.3 was too old to run 10.4. And 10.3 and 10.4 had features I liked, and many, many, I didn't.
To run a recent version of Java, I had to have a recent version of Mac OS X. To have a recent version of Mac OS X, I had to upgrade my hardware. Regardless of that, running a recent version of Mac OS X would not necessarily be an "upgrade", in that I didn't like a lot of the changes. And at that time a new version of Mac OS X seemed to be coming out every 1-2 years, costing $130 a pop - if I didn't buy a new Mac with it pre-installed for a small fortune. (To add insult to injury I didn't even like Apple's hardware!)
So, relunctantly, I switched back to GNU/Linux, eventually settling on Ubuntu which, at least, was "mainstream" but the updates are free and Ubuntu's attitude to hardware support is more liberal.
This isn't a dig at Apple specifically, especially as immediately after I switched back to Linux they seemed to get better and software update prices went down, and became less frequent. But it is "how it works", generally in the proprietary software world. You might like Mac OS X Jaguar, you might like Windows 2000, you might love AmigaOS 2.1 or 3.0. But you have no choice, ultimately, you do end up having to move to something else, no matter how much you might convince yourself otherwise.
You are not alone. This is not normal. None of this is normal.
Lol. you're comparing the X11 stack and claiming superiority :)
I run: Windows, OS X, Linux, FreeBSD. Just because you have a hammer, doesn't mean everything is a nail.
Some people had no choice. I woke up yesterday morning and ios7 was automatically installed ... F U Apple.
The updates aren't forced. You're talking out your ass.
You cant use SHSH blobs now. Apple has introduced the APTicket mechanism which makes them useless.
http://www.iphonehacks.com/2013/09/cannot-downgrade-ios-7-ios-6-1-3-ios-6-1-4.html
Apple is choosing what version of iOS I can and can't use on a device that *I OWN*. Good job defending that,
You have to admire apple for their ingenuity. What better way to force people to ditch that old phone than to update the OS, make it more resource hungry...
That's been going on for as long as there has been a computer industry.
Not at all! You could always keep your old OS in your computer. The "great innovation" of apple is to FORCE YOU TO UPGRADE if you need to reinstall the OS, whether you like it or not. They do it simply by not signing the old OS anymore. Then voila, your formerly perfectly adequate phone has become slow and useless.
I also moved to android some 6 months ago. I really appreciate that they do not try to force anything on you (well, if you exclude spying...). I have since ditched an iphone and an ipad, and have a nexus4 and a galaxy note 8.0. Do not miss the iOS way of doing business.
There's nothing stopping users of old hardware running the old, designed-for-device iOS (or Android, etc.)
Other than that new applications and reinstalled applications are available only for the newer operating system. And other than that Apple requires installing the latest version of the OS; no downgrading from, say, iOS 4 on a 3GS should the user find it sluggish.
If its so easy to find, then post a link detailing how to downgrade my iPhone 4S to 6.1.3.
Apple is choosing what version of iOS I can and can't use on a device that *I OWN*. Don't know why you guys are defending such policies.
A year ago, Apple was still selling the fourth generation iPod touch. I imagine that devices purchased from September 22 through October 10 of last year are still under factory warranty, even if they aren't getting iOS 7. Perhaps Apple might have added the ability to download an app compatible with old iOS to keep fourth generation iPod touch users from making warranty claims.
I downgraded my iPad back to 6.1.3.... It's perfectly doable.
Its temporary. When new iOS versions are introduced there is generally a brief window of time where Apple's servers approve both versions for installation. After a little while the previous version will be removed from the approved list and only the new version will be approved from that point forward.
If you with reinstall iOS 6 do not delay.
I don't own an Android phone because data plans are so expensive. But I do know Google pushes out operating system updates to my ASUS Nexus 7 tablet within a couple days of their announced availability. I think it does the same to the GSM version of the LG Nexus 4 as well.
I downgraded my iPad back to 6.1.3.... It's perfectly doable.
You must have an iPad 1. It is impossible to downgrade any iOS device after the iPhone 4S/iPad 2. You cannot do anything meaningful with the SHSH blobs. So its perfectly doable for you, and a handful of people on older hardware. But it is not perfectly doable in general.
The first generation iPad won't upgrade past iOS 5.1.1.
Downgrades are generally possible for a very brief time period when a new version is introduced. Apple does not seem to disable installation of the old version immediately upon release of the new version, it will happen, but there is a delay.
You say in the early 2000's you bought a Mac that was ultimately not supported by OS X 10.3. 10.3 came out in November 2003 and supported all Macs models released in 1999 and later, and some Macs (iMacs) released in 1998. 10.4, which came out April 2005, supported all Macs released in 2000 onward. Your "toe in the water" Mac must have been around 3 years old already when you got it. I won't deny Apple likes to deprecate stuff faster than most companies, but I think that's due to their desire to move forward and the number of difficult transitions they've gone through (68k->PPC Processors, Classic MacOS->OSX, PPC->Intel, 32->64 bit). All of those things have ended up as OS support dividing lines.
On the plus side, major OS releases are only $20 now.
On my iPad Mini, 7 doesn't seem perceptibly any faster or slower than 6.1.x -- just different, which is a topic for another thread.
My iPhone 4S, however, is a different story. It does indeed feel noticeably choppier/more sluggish in some respects. The dropping-out-of-warp starfield simulation the icons do when unlocking, for instance, often seems quite herky-jerky. There are other, intermittent, occurrences where the OS seems to just pause for a moment or two while it performs some sort of background process (clearing/swapping RAM contenets, perhaps), that just makes the whole experience of using the phone a tad more Jedi/Zen-like -- "patience, my young padawan". My 4S has only 16GB of storage, but 3GB free, so swapping RAM contents *shouldn't* be a problem of available space, no?
And now if you'll permit me to mix metaphors -- that's my two cents, your mileage may vary.
You're right, Apple should do what Android manufacturer do. Never update the OS On the phone and to earn extra kudos, ship new phones with under powered hardware and old OS versions.
If Apple really wanted to be more customer focused they could allow carriers to install crapware on their phones to slow it down more.
On my 4S it's great (has been for weeks, Yes I had it for 3 weeks now) on my horribly out of date Ipad 3 it is just fine and the Wifes 5 it's speedy.
On par with what it felt like before the update. No slower no faster than my two nexus 7's or the Nexus 4 I also carry every day.
I did notice that a couple of the older apps that I have been refusing to update because the scumbag dev's added ad's into the app I paid for have problems with the new OS though.
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
Yep, it's slower all right. Normally I never get the first version of any new release (anything with .0 after it). But this one really pissed me off. All the notification offer said was "Upgrade available" without giving any indication of what it was. I thought it was another security upgrade, not a version upgrade. o it took forever to download. It turned out to be iOS7. It sucks. It's not only ugly but incredibly slow. I have the latest and greatest iPad. I need to find out how to go back to the old system.
You must be living on a different planet. As others have stated:
1) You decide whether to upgrade to iOS 7 or not.
2) Others have managed to restore back to iOS 6.
So, how's the weather on your planet?
So are you of the Android bigots, Blackberry morons, or Windows ignorantly hopeful?
"Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart, he dreams himself your master."
I love my iPhone. I've had one since the first model.
iOS7 is "okay" - it has a few new bells and whistles, most of it is just the new UI. I can't say I'm all that impressed -- and honestly, the animation makes me dizzy! Even the Accessibility options to reduce the animation doesn't help.
Word up, to Apple: you're going to have to cut the crap with these minor incremental upgrades -- Android is catching up, very quickly, as are other major manufacturers of 'droid platform (think: Samsung).
Um, no biometrics please. Like I trust Apple to "keep it secret; keep it safe". Nope.
The iPhone is a horrible mobile platform, it's to small, poorly designed and leaves the user feeling like they were ripped off. The S3 still beats the iPhone everyday of the week hands down and backwards. The biggest upgrade Apple can do is to make the phone decent enough to use on a day to day basis, i have an iPhone for work and I hate it, it's the biggest piece of shit I've ever used. It's to small, to sluggish and it's software design makes me feel like high school students made it. I also have a S3 which I use everyday and it's hands down 10 thousand times better in every single aspect.
You must be living on a different planet. As others have stated:
Your planet seems to be the one where facts can be created just by stating them. On my planet, facts need to be supported by evidence.
http://www.iphonehacks.com/2013/09/cannot-downgrade-ios-7-ios-6-1-3-ios-6-1-4.html
1) You decide whether to upgrade to iOS 7 or not.
False. Apple will force me to use iOS 7 whenever I reformat and restore my phone which I end up doing atleast once a year because the phone slows down after about a year of use.
2) Others have managed to restore back to iOS 6.
If you have a device that has the A5 or newer chip, you cannot downgrade the OS because Apple has fixed bugs people used earlier.
Also *IF* and that's a big if some people (on some devices) have managed to restore the OS back go 6, they are using techniques that use flaws in Apples update process. They have to know in advance the steps that need to be taken. e.g. (If you happen to be the one of people that know how to.. and managed to cache their SHSH blobs in advance - note that this technique used to work but does not anymore). Apple *does not* allow you to downgrade.
So, how's the weather on your planet?
You can ask the voices in your head...
You don't have to wait for the animation to fully complete. It will unlock even when halfway faded in. Maybe even sooner if you have good aim :)
After using IOS 7 for a few days, we seem to notice slow scrolling (smooth and then stalls for a fraction of a second) while using Safari and Mail. Also web page buttons seem to have enough lag to occasionally cause double pressing.
Not sure what I'm doing wrong, but I cannot unlock it until the screen has faded in. I've tried with no luck to swipe before it comes in, but fat chance.
And aim shouldn't be the issue since you can now swipe to unlock pretty much anywhere on the screen (and I agree that is an improvement)
Asking people to think is like asking them to buy you a new car
I have a plain old iPhone 4 and iOS 7 works fine for me as far as speed and responsiveness. I have noticed a few more glitches on occasion, but it mostly works fine.
I hate a bunch of the UI changes. Seems like elegance and simplicity has replaced what I thought was UI basics, like giving the user an indication of what text is a "button" that can be tapped and what text is just a label.
I'm still using an old version of XCode. Never upgraded XCode past the point where I started using it to develop apps; so never had to drop support for old versions, either iOS or OSX.
The problem -- at least as it seems to me -- is primarily developers jumping on new versions of XCode, and using new, OS-level specific APIs, which in turn make old devices unable to run the code unless you're *very* careful and catch every instance of new API and make an alternate, home-brewed version available to do that job (or disable a feature.) That's possible, but not easy. And most developers don't do it consistently, which again seems to indicate it isn't all that easy (with Objective C, you can actually tell if a particular call is available to you, and of course, you can just pay attention to the OS rev level.) But basically, the more OS levels you concurrently support, the larger your support load is. No matter how you do it.
To a lesser extent, but still problematic, Apple deprecates or breaks older APIs. That can be a real problem. Sometimes they never fix bugs, too; they just leave an older OS behind, bugs and broken features as-shipped, and wander off into the sunset with a new version, as if that was appropriate behavior. It's not: if you advertise X as having Y feature under, or as, Z OS, as far as I'm concerned, you're on the hook to make it work as advertised and you can't get off the hook by saying "oh, we fixed that in the next version (that doesn't work with a lot of your stuff, sucker.)"
I've been able to keep earlier applications up and running and relatively healthy by simply not upgrading XCode. Do I miss some functionality? Yep. But my customers and users can at least count on their apps continuing to work as long as it remains in my power to manage that. And they don't have to upgrade their OS to make it happen, although they can still do so if they choose to without my stuff breaking.
I went through this with Windows, but in the end, Microsoft so radically changed the way Windows worked -- from window metrics to internal operations -- that it became impossible. That's when I abandoned developing for Windows.
Something that has shown considerable promise is Qt. They're still on the "we don't need to fix bugs, we'll just upgrade" train, but as a cross platform development tool, it really has potential. I've got a software defined radio application developed with Qt 4.7 (Qt 5 was very seriously broken last I looked) that makes some pretty serious demands in terms of CPU and a broad swath of APIs, and have been able to keep it running under both OSX and Windows, which I think says a lot for Qt. Again, staying away from the "upgrade" is one of the things that has kept my users in working software.
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
iOS 7 does have improvements in several aspects, for example, battery life has improved greatly.
My wife did the upgrade on her iPad a few days ago, and is shocked by the horrible battery life. She claims she isn't (yet ;-) doing anything different than what she was using it for before, but its battery dies overnight, while it used to last several days between charging. That's a rather radical change.
I suggested googling for info, especially on settings that may be different than what she was using before. She found a few suggestions, and might know in a few days whether they had any effect.
What I find disappointing is that we can't seem to find any good summary covering the issue, with a good collection of suggestion on how to deal with battery-life issues. There are zillions of "Well, I tried X, and it seems to have an effect" sort of comments, but nothing the least bit systematic.
Of course, we may just be incompetent at finding such things in iOS land. But that describes much of the Apple fanboy crowd, really, so some good advice sites could contribute a lot to users' happiness levels.
Those who do study history are doomed to stand helplessly by while everyone else repeats it.
Android isn't safe from the same issues. If your carrier is kind enough to continue supporting new versions, you have to make sure the hardware you have can do all the fancy new stuff. My wife's Xperia X10 never saw major updates, and that was probably for the best. It took a lot of ROM testing, tweaking, kernel patches, and resource management to make Jelly Bean halfway workable, which is better than the UI Sony and ATT forced upon X10 users. While the stock ROM was fast enough (in some instances not so much...the "live" updates of messages and calls on the home screen), it was regularly a PITA to actually do what you needed to. Her phone never saw an update past point releases, and she's been so spurned by the experience that she's set for an iPhone next.
On my own end, I've had a 4 for a few years now and not a single OS update has made me regret it - 7 is relatively responsive on the old hardware, better than I expected anyways. If you can get a few good years of support and upgrades out of one phone, that's pretty good in my book. I'm going to continue to use it as long as it's supported by new iOS updates and as long as it isn't crippled by what comes out next.
Apple is choosing what version of iOS I can and can't use on a device that *I OWN*.
To a degree, yes they do, but if you don't want to update then don't update. They push a compromise between performance, features and security and if you don't want that yet were still stupid enough to buy into that system then you're just a fool, you should have chosen an Android or perhaps an OpenMoko handset. This is how they operate, nobody forces you to use them so if you don't like it then use something else.
On what device?
I am the unwilling control for my Origin.
They used to have the blur effect in the earlier betas and I didn't find it noticeably slow. It was disabled on my iPad 2 from beta 5 onward.
Just stop.
"If any question why we died, Tell them because our fathers lied."
If nobody complains and remains quiet, nothing will ever change. I'm glad I do not subscribe to such a pathetic way of life.
No, you cannot chose any ipsw. After choosing the firmware it has to check with apple's servers before proceeding. Ergo, Apple has blocked me from using any firmware besides what they think I should use.
The irony of *YOU* calling others 'retard' is quite delicious.
Not since the original release of Vista. Since Vista SP1 Windows has steadily improved in performance, running faster with less hardware requirements. Windows 8, for example, is about 20% faster and leaner than Windows 7.
Not necessarily true. Windows Vista (no SP) was the top of Windows hardware requirements. Windows Vista SP1 and onwards, Windows HW requirements has dropped and speed has increased. Windows 7 was significantly faster and more HW efficient than Vista. Windows 8 generally utperforms Windows XP on the same hardware if you have a reasonably recent graphics card (even when the grapics system is not dedicated).
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I dunno. Can't get faster than instant. Which is why I'm glad I can turn off so much of the useless animations in Android.
Too bad you can't turn off the general lag, e.g. http://venturebeat.com/2013/09/19/apples-iphone-5-touchscreen-is-2-5-times-faster-than-android-devices/
Of course news about a fake are Fake News.
What part is forced? iPhones won’t install OS updates unless you hit the button to confirm. They’ll nag you, but never force you.
I've been trying to upgrade my Ipad 1, and it's so slow it doesn't even say it's available yet!
Slow down, cowboy! It has been 4 hours since you last posted. You must wait another few hours.
I've noticed that the keyboard comes up on my iPad3 kind of jerky and there is a delay before I can start typing. It is no longer "instant"
Not so much on my iPhone5. There are a few things that pause - I've had a few time where I double pressed a button because it was slow to respond (so slow that I thought I missed the button). But for the most part everything works fine.
Generally yes, it is no longer "instant" - almost as if something is running in the background.
I also don't like the animations of the icons dropping in from above. Looks nice - but I need to wait for it to finish before I can use the device.
Also - what's up with the delay when pushing the power button? The screen now slowly gets brighter...which I need to wait for that too. The "getting darker" transition when locking the device is okay. But when I press On, I mean On...stupid dragon.
Overall I do like iOS7. Just a few minor kinks to work out.
I haven't noticed any slowness with my two devices. I'm waiting for my iPhone 5s since the OS was written for that specific phone. Ron
The iOS upgrade was fine on the iPhone 5 and even on the iPad 3. The performance feels just fine to me. I have been running it since June and now going back to the older version really makes the phone feel old. The new features are well worth the upgrade. Not to mention the extra security from Apple encouraging the use of PIN's and now a phone can't be reactivated without the iCloud ID if it is wiped making an aftermarket for stolen phones far less desirable if people use them. The big benefits are going to come in the future as more apps start going 64 bit and the older phones and iPads are phased out in favor of 64 bit devices. Over all it is a good upgrade in my opinion. The Control Center (swipe up from the bottom) the Today feature (swipe down from top) quick access to search from any screen (swipe down on the middle of the screen) are all worth while. Mail now allows you to have a mailbox of just unread messages. (In Mailboxes tap edit and choose Unread Folder). The added security will eventually benefit us all. Auto Update of apps so users don't have to worry about keeping apps up to date anymore. All I think are worth the upgrade. The visual changes are a little jarring at first but once users get used to them it will fade away and some day we will wonder what the fuss was all about.
My immediate impression, on my 4S, was that it was much snappier. Also, my voice quality went from unacceptable to great. I realize that's almost certainly a coincidence--something happened on my network at the same time, or something--but that was my experience. As for speed though, no question: My iPhone 4S got faster. Jim
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You have to admire apple for their ingenuity. What better way to force people to ditch that old phone than to update the OS, make it more resource hungry...
That's been going on for as long as there has been a computer industry.
Not at all! You could always keep your old OS in your computer. The "great innovation" of apple is to FORCE YOU TO UPGRADE if you need to reinstall the OS, whether you like it or not....
That's quite true, but even in the "olden" days, it was hard to downgrade because within about a year, most of your apps would have no longer been compatible, or the OS would no longer run the latest must-have apps or games.
I dropped my iPad a few days ago and it fell at exactly 9,8m/s^2
I did it again after upgrading to iOS7 and same result.
Serioulsy: I don't see it being slow (iPad 3, 32GB) And yes, the above is true, the damn thing drops to the ground every few days, all the corners are completely dented. ;)
But... as it was gift from my ex-employer I don't give a fuck
Bwahaaaa, Apple fanboys shiver, I'm torturing and abusing one of your holy devices...
-- 29A the number of the Beast
Initial impressions are that rather than being slower, it is faster.
Some people reported the devices hanging when inputting their pin. Did not have that either.
It turned bluetooth on. Did not want that.
I really preferred the old icons. Hoping there is an app to restore them.
Battery life so far is the same.
Have not tried all the new features, so my report is not comprehensive
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
Of course, we may just be incompetent at finding such things in iOS land. But that describes much of the Apple fanboy crowd, really, so some good advice sites could contribute a lot to users' happiness levels.
Heree is the list of the problems in iOS7.
300 Apple Fanbois were killed, when their iPhones blew up, spewing white hot acid all over them.
Another 1000 have been permantly blinded, because the nre OS drains the batteries so quickly that they also explode.
The gold coloring in the iphoines is carcinogenic, causeing rapid death. Apple has tried to cover up this, but it turns out that the entire team making the gold phones is dead. That's why there is a shortage of the gold phones. This is what really killed Steve Jobs.
The iphone screen now emits hard gamma rays
Farmers report that their milch cows have run dry.
The email automatically emails threats to officials, anlong with your GPS coordinates.
Use an iOS7 powered iPhone once, and you will be both sterile and impotent for life. However, women grow penises
A study found that not one of the new features worked, and all the old ones were automatically disabled.
Do yourself a favor - buy a droid phone. Men report an average penis growth of 4 inches, the phones emit a pheronome that women find irresistable, (make sure you get the right one)
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
Who is forcing? My iPhone 5 is still working just fine on iOS 6. I upgraded the iPad Mini and it's working just fine, but I'm not ready to mess with the phone, got too much stuff on there to just run out and upgrade to the latest and greatest before it's been properly tested by 200 million beta testers [businessinsider.com].
I'll wait for 7.1, then wait two weeks after that.
I admire Android users fearlessness though, to run an OS that freely gives complete control over everything to any app or website. I have no idea how Android users sleep at night, knowing their Android phone can be remotely wiped and reset to factory settings simply by visiting a website.
my karma will be here long after I'm gone
If nobody complains and remains quiet, nothing will ever change.
Why would you complain about it?
I have the download ready and waiting to install but I was looking for threads and articles like this one before deciding on upgrading (I have an iPhone 5 which runs perfectly fine as it is). I am planning on upgrading soon but want to hear about any problems that users are running into. It seems like some are very happy, some not so happy and those in-between. I figure that any show-stoppers will turn up this week. My son had to buy a phone two months ago (his feature phone died). I suggested the Nexus 4, HTC-1 (Google edition), and S4 (Google Edition). I recommended the Nexus 4 as he's picking up the tab (it's nice when your kids graduate with a CS degree so that they can get a job and pay for their own toys) and that's what he chose and he loves it. He used to carry around a feature phone and an iPod Touch for music and pictures. Now he just has one device with a very good camera, screen, battery life and he doesn't have to keep multiple cables around to charge multiple devices. My wife's feature phone is going too and I'm planning on getting her a Nexus 5 when it comes out. I like the file-level stuff that you can do on Android but I prefer the Apps on iOS. So I have an iPhone and a Nexus 7 - I can do what I want between the two of them.
Android is in fact worse - the tablet I bought my son in Christmas 2011 never received any updates at all... Just didn't get them - not a hardware issue in the least. Just part of the fragmented and security weak Android ecosystem that doesn't seem to bother Google...
ACM3
While I haven't tried this on my old iPhone 4, the improvements in iOS7 include not only more and better gestures but the system is far speedier throughout on my iPhone 5. I do believe there may be some errata that need to be fixed on older devices that are causing some performance issues. Upgrade was flawless and wireless. All I really hear from people in conclusion is "I can't deal with change" - find something else to do with your time please. Adapt or die.
ACM3
LOL, are you really so brainwashed that in your mind an unflashy GUI == communism? Or are you just butthurt that I'm mocking your precious free market religion?
Have you managed to upgrade the OS on that phone? Of does it have exactly the same features now that it had back then?